#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Roland EXPOSES Motivating Factor In Elon Musk's Mom Birth Rate Talk: Maintaining Whiteness

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Maye Musk, Elon Musk's mother, is facing backlash after defending her controversial stance on having children regardless of financial circumstances. During a December 15 appearance on Fox & Friend...s with Rachel Campos-Duffy, the 76-year-old asserted that raising children doesn’t have to be expensive, suggesting there are affordable ways to start a family. Her comments align with sentiments previously expressed by her son Elon, who has fathered 12 children. The Tesla CEO has often warned about the dangers of declining birth rates in the U.S., calling it a greater threat to humanity than climate change. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com   The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 online who said listen i get I get it. People don't want to have, they're talking about the birth rate, which your son talks a lot about it declining and the problems for humanity with that. And he said, you said to his response about it being too expensive to have kids, you said, that's not the way to think about this. Explain. Well, you know, when I had my children, we were in a two-bedroom small apartment overlooking a garage. And then the next year, I have a second child, we had an apartment with a view. And then by the third child, we could get a two-bedroom house. And you just, you know, as you move on, you start doing better and better. But people, you know, you don't on, you start doing better and better.
Starting point is 00:03:08 But people, you know, you don't have to go to the movies. You don't have to go out for dinner. You can just spend time with the most wonderful gifts you can ever have as children. Okay. All right. So here's the issue with that. And we have to understand we talk about these declining birth rates. The reality is that we have been seeing declining birth rates in the United States. We are seeing this really from white people in the United States.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Now, one of the things that we saw in the 1950s, we had an average, a woman was having an average of five babies. Now it's down to 2.2. And so, Elon keeps saying, we can't have this, we can't have this. But then you gotta ask the question, well, where are they having kids? Hmm. A lot of Latino countries, huh?
Starting point is 00:04:13 A lot of African nations, huh? Just think about China. China actually changed their law 30 plus years ago. One child. Actually, that was kind of stupid because what they didn't realize is that in about 30 years, you're going to have a problem because you can't replace your population. And that's exactly where they face. You got folks who are living in rural China, a lot of the younger folks moving into cities. And so they have a serious population issue there and they rescinded that rule. But really what this is all about is, is Elon Musk speaking the language of the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Why are they so against abortion? Why are people aborting babies? This is about how do you continue to maintain control? It is about control. And so why are they so adamant against migrants coming to the United States? Because that means the nation becomes browner, but not necessarily the nation becoming browner. Because what we have to understand is that there are white Hispanics and white Hispanics who typically adopt the ways of white people. Because when you think about colonialism, you think about racism, whiteness works. It does. It works. It does. It works. There was a video I saw over the weekend and there was a young man who is Mexican. And in the video, he was talking about what it means, what it means to be brown, to be dark skin. I'm going to play the video for you for a second with understand what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And so when you hear all of this talk about declining birth rates, I need you to understand the motivating factor for all of this and it is to maintain whiteness and so a lot of the attacks, a lot of the attacks against immigration is what? They don't want them brown people here. What did Donald Trump say before, last time he was in Oval Office? What did he say? Why can't we get folks from Sweden or Denmark? You say, wait a minute. Those are white countries.
Starting point is 00:07:02 That's what you got to do. You got to get folks coming into the country. countries. Folks coming into the country. He can't stand African immigrants. He doesn't want immigrants from Haiti. He doesn't want immigrants from the Caribbean. He doesn't want immigrants from Bermuda. No. Republican Party, they want white people. They should immigrants.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Positively impacting Springfield, Ohio. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. We need the Negroes gone. I need y'all to understand what you're about to see. You need to understand the deportation efforts, all the talk about, oh, they're taking jobs as housing.
Starting point is 00:07:49 No, this is about maintaining whiteness in America. See what you're seeing right now in the United States. We've actually seen in the past 10 to 15 years. Y'all may not pay much attention, but I did. There were massive protests happening all around Europe. What were the protests about? The protests, they were protesting African immigrants. Because guess what? Declining birth rates in Italy, Germany, Ireland, the UK, other European nations.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They were angry with these African immigrants coming in. But guess what? The reality is when you have declining birth rates, a nation has to replace the people in order to continue to maintain your GDP, your gross domestic product. If you don't have people who are doing the jobs, then you're going to be in trouble. The Elon Musk of the world, they care about white people who aren't having babies. And that's exactly what you heard there. I want to bring my panel right now. I'm Conga Debena, Sr I'm going to be a senior professor, election school, international service, American University.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It's Kelly, your Jade Mathis. I have all of y'all here. I mean, this is real clear. And I think people need to understand when you hear these discussions about declining birth rates, they don't give a damn about black people. They don't give a damn about brown people. This is about maintaining whiteness in America and frankly in Europe. So listen, we are talking, Roland, about declining birth rates. We're also talking about... I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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Starting point is 00:12:53 This is a culture shift that people are recognizing that they need to do something about. And I think that when we talk about anybody who is brown skinned, and I know that you're about to run that clip, that if you are in any way black or brown, close to it, anything that is anything other than being white, you are going to be dealt a lesser hand. I think that they are somewhere trying to figure out what happened. How did we let this happen? But as we know, culture shifts happen all the time. We are in the middle of a culture shift right now when we transition on January 20th. A culture shift happened after George Floyd. People, you know, they changed.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They were about face when it came to DEI. There's always culture shifts that we are living in. This is a huge one. And this is why we are hearing this rhetoric. It's kind of really hidden. But you are right in that the bottom line is that white people, as we know them, those rates are declining. And when we see less of them, we're talking about generations from now, everything will shift. It's just a numbers game. It's inevitable that everything will shift if you have fewer people who are mating and procreating people who would be considered white in this world. And again, when we think about whiteness, we're not talking about ethnicity.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Sometimes we are. But, you know, when we think about in the context of Mexicans or Indians, it is the lighter, the better. It has nothing to do sometimes with the race that you are almost brought in and they recognize this. See, a lot of folks, again, don't really pay attention to what these things mean. I'm a Congo. Go to my iPad, Anthony. This is a piece that was in Politico in July 2024. The political shockwaves of America's falling birth rates. And so when you go here, this is what it says. Dangerous and destabilizing. Social security insolvency, less economic growth, a smaller and older workforce. They say those are some of the long term economic consequences demographers and economists say the U.S. could face if Donald Trump makes good on a central tenant of his campaign platform, significantly cutting immigration levels and increasing deportations.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Now, when you go here and you look at this here, you'll begin to understand it. So when J.D. Vance was complaining about childless cat ladies and said that them not having children is catastrophic for the country, he talked about women. And look at this here. He said if your society is not having enough children to replace itself, that is a profoundly dangerous and destabilizing thing. He said in an interview with Megyn Kelly. But guess what? What is the answer to that? Immigration is one of those answers. Look at this here. report from the Congressional Budget Office, immigration is almost entirely responsible for keeping the population at steady state or growing levels through 2054, even as a U.S. fertility rate continues to fall. This is very simple. The numbers decrease.
Starting point is 00:15:58 United States saw a decrease in the number of births from 2002. It's down to 1.6 births per woman over the course of a lifetime. Right here. That's far below what the rate needed to keep the U.S. population at replacement levels. See, the issue here, Amakongo, is not that, oh, with immigration,
Starting point is 00:16:19 they're being replaced. The question is, whom are they replacing? And what do people look like? The reality is that Republicans have no problem if the people coming into America are white. They're white. So, actually, I think I'm at an issue with Omicongo's, Omicongo, are you there? Omicongo, are you there? Omicongo, are you there?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Guys, double check. Yeah, can you hear me? Okay, now we can hear you. There was an issue with your signal. They want white people. And I just need black people to understand what's going on here. They want white people,
Starting point is 00:17:03 they want white people to replace the white people who are not being born. That's what they want. Looks like we have an issue. I'm going to go speed. Let me go to Jade.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Jade, that same question for you. People need to understand what's being said, what's being unsaid, but being said. Yeah, absolutely, Roland. The one thing that I thought about that I don't think they factored in is that as of, you know, the 2022 census, we now have 33.8 million people who are biracial in the United States, right? So when we're talking about the people that they want to increase, you know, the percentage, like you said, they're talking about a particular set of people.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Right. They're talking about white people who look like them, but not only those who look like them, those who are at an economic advantage is them. Right. So those who they think they're going to bring some value to them. So those who are not going to be able to do the black jobs and the Hispanic jobs. Right. But then if you're talking about immigration and deporting the ones who are doing the Hispanic jobs, then who's going to be left to do what you consider the Hispanic and black jobs. But by the way, I hope you consider the large amount of biracial people in the United States as that continues to grow. So again, so watch this here. Look at this here. This is a report the Biden White House put together May 2024. A first principles look at historically low U.S. fertility and its macroeconomic implications. Folks, what we're talking about here is economics. And it shows that right here, the U.S. birth rate declined to its lowest level in history. This data point is the most recent in the trend of
Starting point is 00:18:45 falling U.S. fertility rates since 2017. He says, observers have noted that low fertility and the aging population that it generates implies fewer workers per capita and creates significant headwinds to economic growth, the fiscal sustainability of a public benefit programs, and the trend of continuous improvements in living standards as reflected in per capita incomes. So let me unpack that. And people need to understand this, I'm a Congo. So if you're 30 years old right now, okay,
Starting point is 00:19:22 you're paying into social security. Retirement is what, is it 65, 67? Maybe they raised it to 70, okay? But let's just say it's 65. That now means you're going to retire in 35 years. In order for you to retire in 35 years, you're going to need people working in 35 years paying into the system so you can get paid. The problem is if you continue to see a drop in U.S. fertility rates, if you are not replacing those people, the person who's 30 today, when they become 65, you ain't having nobody paying to assist him. But, so that's one piece of it. But again, the Elon Musk of the world,
Starting point is 00:20:13 and people like him and Republicans, Donald Trump and others, they have no issue with white people coming into America. They do not want... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
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Starting point is 00:23:51 If you switch out the letters, Donald Trump is running on an age old idea in America. And you started out with Elon Musk's mom. Elon Musk was born in what, 1971? So she's talking about raising two white children in South Africa. I think she's going to be all right no matter how she had those children. So there's this idea that they are this party of, you know, purity. Yes, purity for the continual growth of white children. And they don't care.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And that's why they want to have these anti-abortion laws, because at the end of the day, they believe that it's going to help white women reproduce. But these black and brown kids that reproduce, put them out, you going to help more white women reproduce. But these black and brown kids that reproduce, put them out, you know, you got prisons for that, right? You got the poor educational system. You got things that may happen with police misconduct. I heard somebody, one of these politicians say over the weekend, we need more Daniel Pennies out there because we got too many Jordan Neelys. So they already have a plan for population control for many of us. And so the more honest we are about this, the more we can actually tackle this situation. And we are running. We have a president that's coming in who ran on whiteness.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Look at me and my beautiful white skin. I'm more white than Giannis Antetokounmpo from the Milwaukee Bucks. And if we're not honest with this, it's going to be too late for too many of us. And so the fact that you're leading with this tonight is extremely important because they have a plan for population control and they have a plan for making sure that those numbers, ever since those reports came out, Roland, that said by what, like 2050 something, white folks are going to be in a minority, they've been losing their mind. And that great replacement theory and everything you talk about in your book, White Fear, is coming to fruition. And now they have their avatar who they believe is going to usher them into this new stage of the continual growth of white people at the expense of black and brown people. But I got news for them. It's
Starting point is 00:25:33 not going to happen. You see the widening of the wage gap when you look at the concerns about the environment and climate change. You hear young people say, I'm not trying to have kids. You look at the housing crisis in America right now. They're saying, I don't want kids. And so folk have to understand if a person does not believe that they're going to have a sound economic footing in the future, then they're not going to be getting married. They're not going to be having children. And so all of these people, look, Donald Trump's going to have 11 billionaires working somewhere in his administration. They're going to sit and be trying to rape the government. We know exactly what's going to happen here. They want to get richer. And so the same people
Starting point is 00:26:19 who are complaining about low fertility rates don't want to do anything about the declining values in the country when it comes to wages, when it comes to housing, when it comes to affordability. And when you don't do anything to stop guns, when you got kids who are being shot and killed in a Christian school, even more so these things are happening. And so folk need to wake up and recognize why people are not having children. And that is because they do not believe they're going to have a stable economic future moving forward. Candace. Oh, that was for me. I missed that. Mr. Ward there. Listen, that is one of the big holes in this idea that we haven't talked about, now we are,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and that is not really being talked about on a large scale. And that is even if you have the influx of people, they're making decisions that are falling within their means. People don't understand that there are folks out there who are making decisions between $5 gas, $5 eggs, whether or not they're going to eat. It used to be 20 years ago that $100,000 would do something. Not today. Not if you live in Chicago, New York City, LA, I'm in Jersey, not with these property taxes. You do have to be somebody who's married, somebody who was stable. Then at that point, where are you living? You're worrying about your education system. Do you have to pay for that? Was it like me where I had the opportunity to go to a public school and everything became fine? Are
Starting point is 00:27:49 you in the middle of some lottery system that you have to be a part of? Can you afford the life that you are living? And as you get older, are you really able to have children? Because we have an education system that is telling us you have to get this education and that undergraduate degree is not going to be enough. You now have to get a graduate degree telling us you have to get this education and that undergraduate degree is not going to be enough. You have to get a graduate degree and then you have loans that you have to pay for that are just holding you by the neck. And then everything becomes a standstill. So regardless of how many people you bring in that you would like and hope will mate
Starting point is 00:28:18 with each other, there's so many societal issues that you have to understand exist that is still going to stop people from doing that. It's the same thing that is stopping people today. It is all a question of economics. And we saw this rise to the top with the election. People wanted to know how much money, more money can I make with the president of my choice? And that's why so many people, whether they were young, educated people, women and men, African-American men, especially who cross right over because it was a question about economics. It is interesting here. This is a study that was done. Let me pull this up. This was this is from 2009.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So I just want you to understand that this was being stated 15 years ago. And what I love about this is that I'm sitting here looking at it and it jumps out. It says all the recent data shows that birth rates in the UK have increased. This is predominantly due to immigration. So there are still serious concerns about long-term replacement. It says there are two potential means of addressing the problem of providing a young, productive workforce able to generate income to provide the social care for the old and infirm. One of those ways is immigration. It says the first is to find ways of increasing the birth rate. This is essentially a long-term solution, the one which should provide more steady and productive results
Starting point is 00:29:49 The second is to encourage immigration of a predominantly young and skilled workforce Now what does it say the declining birth rate is not unique to Britain Britain and Western European countries Countries like Japan have a similar concern and this is what it says There are several factors such as lifestyle factors and an increase in sexually transmitted diseases, rising obesity and environmental factors involving urbanization and urban lifestyle that are affecting fertility have led to rise in male and female subfertility. Then it gets to the socioeconomic factors, lack of affordable housing, flexible and part-time career posts for women, and affordable
Starting point is 00:30:25 and publicly funded free child care have contributed to the current low fertility birth rates. Couples, women are delaying starting a family, which has led to a true decline in their fertility rate levels due to ovarian aging and related reasons leading to reduced change of conception. Now, why am I saying all of that? If you do not deal with the economic realities of life, you're not going to be able to change this. And so, listen, I don't have any birth children, but with my wife and I raised my nieces, twin nieces, daycare was as high as two thousand dollars per month. We're talking about a mortgage when it comes to child care. And so now you're dealing with that. And so this is one of the issues.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I remember when Bill Clinton, when they were changing the welfare work requirements. Oh, you got to go out and work. And people were like, yo, I want to work. Who's going to care for my child? I got to make a decision. Do I care for my child and go to work or do I work? And I got to stick my child with a friend or a family member. That's real. And so American policymakers can't on one hand talk about, oh, we got to get rid of immigration. We got to deport all of these people. If you still don't address the underlying reasons. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to
Starting point is 00:32:00 a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.
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Starting point is 00:33:43 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend.
Starting point is 00:34:25 At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Why folks who are American don't want to have kids. It's an economic issue. Yeah, well, I think you're absolutely right. And I'm so happy that you show that article and you share what you share because I am pushing upwards 40. And I think as a civil rights attorney, I make a pretty good income. However, that is one of the main reasons that I am not prepared to have a child is because I don't know. I cannot pay for childcare in the DMV area or Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I'm bi-coastal. It's at least $2,500 to $3,000 a month. I have non-traditional work hours, so I can't do that. I am so scared the way this economy is going to the point where I froze my eggs last year because I said, I am not sure when I'm going to be able to have a mini person.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So it's that bad that we have that fear. So you're absolutely correct. I'm a Congo again. Same story here says there has to be a policy, a state and federal policy to address the realities of fertility. One of the things in this article, I'm going to go up a little bit earlier. They said that, hey, government should be looking at how do you fund fertility treatment? How do you fund IVF? When you got Republicans who are frankly having a war against IVF, now you're like, hold up, y'all are having a war against IVF,
Starting point is 00:35:58 but then y'all complained about low fertility rates. Which is it? This is an issue that again, and for all these people, and I remember asking people all over Congo who like, oh yeah, Roland Martin, he's sitting here, you know, trying to explain to us, trying to explain to us,
Starting point is 00:36:14 you know, what immigration is good. I'm just telling you right now, facts are facts. If one of the reasons, and this is what economists say, one of the reasons the United States was able to weather the storm of COVID, and one of the reasons, and this is what economists say, one of the reasons the United States was able to weather the storm of COVID and one of the reasons why the federal, why the U.S. economy rebounded
Starting point is 00:36:33 at a faster rate than any other nation was because of immigration. Numbers don't lie. The amount of money people were, the work they were doing, they're putting money into the system. Now, you can have these loud mouths in Chicago, some fool who's complaining, oh, I won't have her on the show. And I'm like, because y'all are idiots. You can sit here and complain all you want to, but I'm laying out,
Starting point is 00:36:58 and what I'm showing you is a document from 2009, okay? 15 years ago. We're now in 2024, and we're seeing in the United States the exact same problem that the UK, Japan, and so many other European countries are now dealing with, and so you can just sit here and go, well, hey, I don't care. It's not going to impact me, but trust me, it's going to impact your children. It's going to impact the next generation. And it's going to take several generations
Starting point is 00:37:33 of intense focus on fertility in the country in order to reverse this trend. And there's nothing that tells me that is going to actually happen. Yeah, I think another thing we need to add is that since that article came out in 2009, now in 2024, we're also dealing with these issues of these abortion laws that have been leading to men and women deciding to surgically put themselves in positions where they can't have kids, right? And college students are doing it, and people are doing it at younger and younger ages because they don't know if they're going to have their, you know, cycles tracked, if they're going to be prosecuted if they decided to have an abortion from an unexpected pregnancy, and young women are actually doing that as well. So that's another complication that has been added since this. As somebody who's on a college campus, I'm seeing this every single day. I'm also concerned,
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'm raising, you know, I have a, my two daughters are 18 and 16 and my son is 10. And one of the other things we need to add to it is we're seeing all of these stories about loneliness, right? And women feeling like they're not finding compatible mates in terms of some of the men out there. So ever since that article, there have been more and more reasons why we should be nervous about these declining birth rates. And you also mentioned earlier the issue with China. India also had a policy as well. And if you see what's happening with China right now and what they're doing, importing women from other countries in order to be able to produce babies and the like, and the preference for the male child, this is something that has been predicted. And if we don't get a hold on the economic factors that are contributing to
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