#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Roland EXPOSES Trump & MAGA's Economic ASSAULT On Black America

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at the recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it.

It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Folks, last night we had a conversation on the show where I talked about these executive orders and how MAGA and Donald Trump, how they are specifically targeting black America with these orders. Now, many, many folks are like, well, well, I don't know about all of that. But what have I always told you? You have to follow the money that if you're not having a money conversation, you're not having an American conversation.

So you often hear me refer to the reconstruction periods on this show. And I mention that all the time. Why do I mention that? It is because you've heard me also say in the history of America, every time there's been a period of black success, there has been a longer period of white backlash. And see, now we are, you got people like Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Chris Murphy and others, and who just for them, they don't, they, no, no, no, no, this is not race, this is class. This is not, it's not what it is.

But no, they're wrong. They're absolutely wrong. See, what you have to realize is that if you go back to the first reconstruction, if you really want an understanding of this, and I guarantee you if Greg was at home, he would reach back and grab it. If he was there, if you really want to understand this, you have to understand this. This is called Black Reconstruction in America, 1860 to 1880, written by W.E.B. DuBois. This here, y'all, for those of you,

if you include the bibliography, if you even include the index, this is a 746-page book where he talks about the period of Reconstruction. What is the period of Reconstruction? It is that period after the end of the Civil War when you had a focus of the radical Republicans, which is not today's Republican Party, the radical Republicans, and if y'all really want to learn some history, go look up Thaddeus Stevens.

These radical Republicans, they had no interest in bipartisanship. They wanted to change America. They said, damn the other people. We got the majority. Run the bills through. And that's how you got the 13th Amendment, the 14th Amendment, the 15th Amendment, which are called the Reconstruction Amendments. That's when you begin to look at the Civil Rights Act that was passed in the 1860s that provided a framework for African Americans to be able to access, listen to y'all, contracts. I don't think some of y'all heard what I just said. One of those laws that was passed, it was not passed in 1854.

It wasn't around the same time as Dred Scott's decision. This particular act was passed because radical Republicans understood that coming out of Reconstruction, that the freed people of African descent needed to be able to access the economic levers of the country in order for them to be able to move ahead. Now, this, if you look at real quick here, I pulled it up. You see this AI overview. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 was the first federal law in the United States to define citizenship and protect the civil rights of all citizens. It also was a bill that dealt with economics. It was economics. And so what began to happen during Reconstruction? I would argue at the

Reconstruction period, the first one, is the most successful period in the history of America for people of African descent. Because what happens during the Reconstruction period, you then begin to see free people of African descent running for state legislature. You see them being elected to Congress. Do y'all realize that, which we now know to be hardcore right-wing Confederate, the first state that left, succeeded from the union because they wanted

to support slavery, South Carolina that had a majority black legislature. Because you know why? The black folks, they're the numbers. Do y'all even recognize that taxpayer funded education is a result of those free people of African descent putting it in the state constitution. James D. Anderson's book, The Education of Blacks in the South, 1860 to 1935, details that. You then begin to see, see, I know a lot of people get

caught up in 40 acres and a mule, but black folks were not waiting on 40 acres and a mule. They began to acquire property. They began to open businesses. You then begin to see, we talk about black Wall Street in Tulsa in 1921 burning down. You literally had black Wall Streets happening all over the country beginning during Reconstruction. But what then happened? And you can look at Eric W.B. DuBois book or if you want to, you can read Eric Foner's book, Reconstruction, America's on. Listen, America's unfinished revolution. He has it from 1863 to 1877. 1877 is kind of important. I'm about to get to it.

So what then happens? All of a sudden, you begin to see African-Americans creating opportunities, but passing bills. You begin to see them building things and doing things and opening schools. And all of a sudden, you begin to have white folks who then go, you know what? That's enough. We done done enough for these Negroes. Listen, we by tired of hearing about all this stuff we need to do.

Yeah, I know we had them enslaved for 200 plus years, but can we just move along? We don't have time. We just, America started getting, white America, started getting tired of doing things for those people. We've done enough for those people. Then there's the election, 1876, a contested election. Huh, sounds quite familiar.

And so the Republicans and the Democrats then all of a sudden begin to say, well, you know what? Democrats say, well, hey, why don't we do this here? We're going to let y'all go ahead and y'all can go ahead and y'all had a presidency. But we're going to do a deal. Y'all got to pull these federal troops of the last three remaining Southern capitals. Oh, I'm sorry. Remember I told y'all they kept saying we're getting tired of that. See, what happened was they put federal troops in state capitals to ensure that the Southern, the Dixiecrats, the Southern, the racist would not take over. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back.

See, one of the big mistakes of Lincoln and the radical Republicans, of course, remember, Lincoln gets assassinated being he is followed by an absolute violent racist, Andrew Johnson. What then happens, he then goes, you know what? To hell with that. We're going to return the land to the slave owners if they apologize for what they did. So America put the folk back in power who were the ones who led the Civil War. So what then happens, you then begin to have this election. It gets contested. And so then there's a compromise. We ain't in the room. The white folks were making the deal. And that's known as the Great Compromise of 1877.

Do you all know what came after the Great Compromise of 1877? The Reconstruction period ended. That's when the period of Jim Crow started. These white folks were like, no, we have done enough for these black people. We are sick and tired of doing this. So then we come around to a second reconstruction. All of a sudden, Emmett Till gets killed August 28th, 1955. And all of a sudden you have these black women in Montgomery, Alabama, the Women's Council who were organizing and they were doing what they were supposed to do.

Then all of a sudden you then begin to have these black women. It was not the black preachers. It was not the black men. It was the black women in Montgomery, Alabama, who the ones who started Montgomery bus boycott. Then Rosa Parks sits down. Then it begins December 1st, 1955. They begin to bring them to their knees. But understand Montgomery, it went all the way to Supreme Court, but then Montgomery buckled because it was a money thing, y'all. That began a 13-year odyssey where you begin to see the fight over civil rights. You then begin to see the laws passed, the Civil Rights Act of 64, the Voting Rights Act of 65, the Fair House Housing Act of 1968. And guess what happened?

You had these Republicans who actually were supportive of civil rights. And all of a sudden, Barry Goldwater runs for president in 1964. He was a senator from Arizona. And then what does Barry Goldwater do? Barry Goldwater, then he opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That was his bedrock. King was so offended by that that King actually campaigned for President Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1964, something that he never did. But they said it was so important for Goldwater not to win because Barry Goldwater was going to stop civil rights in its tracks. Why is that important? Why is Barry Goldwater's opposition to the 64 Civil Rights Act so important?

Because the 64 Civil Rights Act dealt with public accommodations. It dealt with you couldn't bar people from restaurants and transportation. It went on and on and on. Oh, I'm sorry, that means that you couldn't bar people from restaurants and transportation and went on and on and on. Oh, I'm sorry. That means that you couldn't bar people. You could not discriminate against people. And so guess what? They inserted women into the 64 Civil Rights Act. That race is from Virginia. Judge Smith thinking that would kill the bill. It actually helped pass the bill. That's important because you can now go to

Title IX and that's one of the reasons why it was passed because of the 64th Civil Rights Act, the provision of the Civil Rights Act. So why is this important? Because what happens? King gets killed April 4, 1968, assassinated. 69, Nixon becomes president. Arthur Fletcher brings in fourth affirmative action. You have a period from 68. To the early 80s, where black mayors begin to take over. You begin to see contracts, quotas, affirmative action, dollars.

Uh-oh. Second Reconstruction. You had dollars flowing during the first one. You had dollars flowing during the second one. All of a sudden, you get to the 80s. Nixon.

He's gone. Carter's president, Reagan runs. Oh, the same President Ronald Reagan, who he was governor of California, running for governor of California, supported the bill for white folks, not allowing them not to sell their houses to black people. Some of y'all going to pay attention. The same Reagan who became governor, who when the Black Panthers brought their guns to the state capital, they immediately outlawed carrying long rifles. They said, oh, hell no. You know, that was actually legal. The same Reagan who changed the rules that caused for tuition in college for you

to be charged because they did not want the regular, ordinary common man to become educated. Man, some of y'all are going to have to learn some damn history. So what then happened? So here you've appeared from 69 to about 82, 83. And Reagan wins in 1980, inaugurated in 1981. What does Reagan then do? Reagan begins to go after affirmative action programs. You then begin to see the lawsuits happen. Then you begin to see the decisions coming down out of the Supreme Court where they then begin to put constraints on affirmative action. That's an economic situation.

And Reagan in his eight years begins to unleash holy hell economically against black people. And then what happens on May 25th, 2020? Reagan in his eight years begins to unleash holy hell economically against black people. And then what happens on May 25th, 2020? George Floyd is killed. George Floyd. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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Killed on May 2, 2025, 2020. And folk like me said, y'all, this is the third reconstruction. We said in that aftermath that unlike the first two, which largely focused on civil rights, although economics was a part of it, this should be solely focused on silver rights. What happens in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd? You begin to see white people and Latino folks and you begin to see Asians protesting, shutting companies down, forcing them to make economic commitments to be change agents. And white conservatives went, oh shit. We can't have this. We cannot have a generation or two of young white people who are reading and being educated

about the real history of America. There's no coincidence. The attacks on critical race theory comes after George Floyd's death. Oh, some of you may say, well, I still don't understand. Like, what's the deal here? Because the attacks on CRT. And the attacks on wokeness were all designed to drive a wedge through conscious white people. And the folk who wanted to keep the system the same. You had white people in

companies who were forcing them. Adidas announced a $10 million commitment and the white folks in the company lost their minds so much the next day the CEO said, oh, it's going to be $100 million. Companies pledged $30, $40, $50, $60 60, 100 billion in economic commitments in the wake of the death of George Floyd. And then the right said, no, we cannot have this. Oh, no, no, hell no. Remember, May 25th, 2020, Trump was in the White House. We cannot have this because if we have this coalition of young white people who now all of a sudden becomes conscious, who all of a sudden becomes awake, then all of a sudden we are guaranteed to lose

elections in the future. And so what do they then begin to do? They begin to complain about books. They begin to complain about what they're seeing in libraries and what then happens. They begin to run for school board. Moms for Liberty begins to rise up. And so they take all of that fury in 2021 and begin to win.

And that goes into 2022. It sets up the return of Donald Trump. But what a lot of people have been missing is that that Brown versus Board of Education decision in 1954 leads to, of course, in 1955. And all of a sudden you begin to see the changes made by those federal judges. And so the hardcore right goes, damn it, we got to we got to combat this. And the civil rights laws beginning to come in 1960. And they said, no, no, we can't have this. this and then all of a sudden because of what black people did fighting for civil rights and then it was black people's fighting for civil rights which

opened the doors for immigrants to be able to come into the country thank you Indian Americans you're welcome Pakistani Americans you're welcome Asian Americans because that's black people make that happen. Then the white folks said, oh, hell no. This all of a sudden, this multiracial America, we ain't having that. That's why you begin to see rich folks, the melons of the world begin to fund the Heritage Foundation, fund the conservative think tanks because they needed to establish a structure to reframe America because we cannot have a multiracial America

where these people are going to be in power. So we are going to attack economics, affirmative action. We're going to attack voting rights. We're going to attack economics, affirmative action. We're going to attack voting rights. We're going to attack everything which is the underpinning of the society. All these things happen, which is why, folks, you have a Robert Mercer, billionaire, funder of Breitbart. What does he do? This is what he said. Go to my iPad. Mercer often argued at the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a mistake. According to The New Yorker, a former employee claimed that Mercer asserted repeatedly that African-Americans were better off economically before the civil rights. Mercer allegedly claimed that black people were racist and they were no more racist, that they were that there were no more white races. He said black people were racist and that there were no more white races.

That's the billionaire Robert Mercer, who was one of the biggest funders of Donald Trump in the 2016 election, who was the chief funder of Breitbart. This election, you had Charlie Kirk, the CEO of Turning Point USA, who was organizing and galvanizing young white folks on college campuses all across the country, especially young white men. This is what Charlie Kirk said about the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Be clear, created a beast, and that beast has now turned into an anti-white weapon. Yeah, and that's the reality.

And so we just need to fundamentally relook at a lot of our civil rights legal regime. And without that, even though I don't think it's sort of the magic bullet, but I think without that, there's limits to the amount of progress we're going to make. Let's talk about discourse and dialogue. This topic would have been even more forbidden four or five years ago, but it's now becoming in more and more mainstream circles. Is that because the problem is becoming worse or, but our side is more courageous to confront it. Did y'all hear that?

We couldn't talk about this four or five years ago, but now we can. That's a person who literally has the ear of the person sitting in the Oval Office. We do not understand that executive orders that have been issued this week, what the attacks on affirmative action in colleges and admissions, they are getting rid of programs, scholarship programs, they're getting rid of internship programs, they're getting rid of internship programs, they're getting rid of access. What this is about is the complete attack.

And this is the goal of exactly what they did in 1877. This is no different than when the white races in Mississippi convened the Constitutional Convention in 1890. And they said, we cannot let these niggas keep voting. Oh, I know. I'm sorry. Supreme Court Justice John Roberts. He doesn't use that language, but it's essentially what they did when they gutted Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act. The attacks on Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. The attacks on Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. Do understand right now you have at least four Supreme Court justices who would love to completely get rid of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. And why this is important is because the 1964 Civil Rights Act is the enforcement mechanism that has led to all of these changes for black America since that

period. So what they understand, if we assault the 1964 Civil Rights Act and get rid of that, and then we completely get rid of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, what we have effectively done is gutted black leadership and African Americans from being able to take advantage of what happens in this country. So while a lot of y'all are bullshitting around on whether you can be on fucking TikTok, while you're getting caught up in some bullshit housewife, while you're having your fucking MJ and LeBron debates

on who's the GOAT, there is literally, as we speak, an entire focus to gut every single civil right and economic gain that we have had since 1964 because they are pissed with those three acts. They're pissed with the Brown versus Board of Education Act. You have voucher bills that are being pushed in Texas and Tennessee and other places

to gut public education. What we have to understand is there is a vicious assault to completely defund black America. So why did I wear what I'm wearing today? We had this sister on the show. She launched her own athletic apparel company, shoe company as well. So what I'm wearing y'all is all black owned. Well we have to understand King talked about it in his sermon on April 3rd, 1968.

What do you think? This was about Operation Breadbasket, an untold story of civil rights in Chicago, 1966 to 1971 by Martin Depp. This was about the money. And when you have corporations who are now afraid, who are scared to death, oh, Costco is standing up to them. McDonald's buckled. Walmart buckled. Jack Daniels buckled. If you want to understand what black folks should be doing, every black person right now should be saying,

the hell with Jack Daniels. Don't ever buy Jack Daniels again. You don't want to stand with us, especially when you are a company that even exists because a black man showed you how to do it. We should be saying, get Uncle Nearest. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated.

I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th, ad free at lava for good. Plus on Apple podcasts. I'm Clayton English.

I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the war on drugs. But sir, we are back in a big way, in a very big way, real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star studded a little bit,

man. We got a Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King,

John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette.

MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You say you'd never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed with kid photos. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it and never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, no, it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out. Never happens. Before you leave the car, always stop, look, lock.

Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Black folks should be saying, Hennessy, where do you stand? Yeah, we're going to stop drinking your stuff too. The only way we are going to counter what is happening right now, this effort to defund black America, is to say, keep playing with us. We're going to defund your company. Because there are companies that depend upon black market share. Fast food companies, clothing companies, black America, music companies, entertainment companies. The question is, do we have the actual courage to use the power that we have? Greg, I'm gonna go to you first.

Because we don't. I go to you first because this is about the money and the money is about power and the power is about control and they are executing an agenda, a radical agenda that will absolutely do economic harm to black people for the next century. Yes, yes, absolutely. I think it was a masterful walkthrough, Roland, very necessary. An important level set for folks who really think this is about one election or one candidate's policies or whether you like their spouse or whether they smoke weed when they were in college is silly things, as you said. The the framework that you laid out really helps us connect the dots. This entire when I call it a criminal enterprise, it's not an original criminal enterprise. It is an extension of a half millennium of criminal enterprise called the modern world system. This is a process that did not involve the entire world that came out of Western Eurasia, what we now call Europe, that combines culture and commerce and politics in terms of state

formation. So when we talk about Spain and Portugal, we talk about Holland, we talk about England and France, and we're not talking about Germany because Germany hasn't formed in a way. And that's what World War One and World War Two about. Basically, they were like, we didn't get the jump that y'all got riding African peoples back into modernity. That's what, of course, French is writing about his book Born in Blackness. But what you've just laid out for us, it's about the money. You're absolutely right. And the money is a proxy for a larger concept of economics. There is no concept of citizenship that comes out of Africa. The ancient Egyptians did not have a concept.

At least one has not been discovered yet. Certainly a concept of belonging and being part of community. But the concept of the civetized, the concept of the polis that comes out of Greece and Rome really find voice in Western Eurasia as these people begin to fight. And by these people, I mean the rich, the elites begin to fight. That's what Magna Carta was about in the 13th century, begin to fight over resources. That's what drives land poor and resource poor Europe into boats to go visit this cancer on the rest of the world. And what does that have to do with us right now? Well, the United States of America, and with all due respect to a concept of a 1619 project, isn't just the British in Virginia, it's the Spanish in what becomes South Carolina and New Mexico. It's the French in the Mississippi

Valley. It's the Dutch in what we now call New York that was New Amsterdam. They are trying, in other words, to colonize the world for profit. And when the dust settles after their colonies turn on them, the most prominent set of colonies turning on the home country being, of course, the so-called American Revolution, which was fighting over property, now you have the problem that you've introduced us to, Roland. What do you do with people who entered this legal framework as property? This is the Federalist Papers. This is the debates over the Constitution. We are not people. Understand that the idea that Africans are people is a radical concept to these Europeans

who saw us the same way they saw the chickens and the gold and the silver and the cotton and indigo. So what do you do with these people? And here is the problem that they had. You couldn't kill us and you needed our labor to continue your criminal enterprise. So, Roland, when you laid out the Reconstruction and the Reconstruction amendments, that is the critical thing. When you evoke what is a property document, understand the U.S. Constitution isn't about rights. It's about rights to make profit. It's a property document. It's a document about free enterprise. It's a document about trade. enterprises of these people from Europe and their colonies. And what they codify in the three branches of the federal constitution is a concept of private property. But one problem, you got four

million of us by the 1860s, and we're not going into that good night quietly. And you're in a global system where you want to expand and everybody else is in the game of exploitation. So when that civil war is over, and we fought our own way out of the civil war, the South wants to continue to profit. The North is trying to keep it together. That's what Abraham Lincoln is trying to do. But ultimately, the decision of slavery,

that decision was called because we, who remember, came into that conflict as so-called contraband, meaning what? Property. We took the step to free ourselves. That's what, as you say, Du Bois is writing about in Black Restruction in America. The Civil Rights Act of 1866, you see the conflict codified. Why? Because they're saying that

African people coming into this now will have a concept of citizenship to beat back that Dred Scott concept where Taney doubles down on the idea that we're property. They say part of that language, which is why Byron Allen seized on it, is that we will now have not just political rights, but the right to make and enforce contracts. Now Africans are in the legal universe no longer as property. Sure, citizenship is emerging, but now there's an economic state. This is a problem. The problem's codified in the 14th Amendment. But watch what happens

last. And you've gone through the history, so I'm not going to repeat that. I'm just going to fast forward now to Lewis Powell, who I know you've talked about many times. That Powell memorandum that he writes when he's in the Chamber of Commerce in the United States, living in Northern Virginia, and he says, since this civil rights movement has seen these African people attempt to assert a concept of citizenship that they should never have had, and since the 14th Amendment has been eviscerated, as Du Bois writes about, and then used to extend the economic contract through the idea that corporations are legal entities in the form of people. That's what they used the 14th Amendment for since they've been eviscerating since the end of Reconstruction. Lewis Powell says we've got to now claw back the concept of private property, claw back the idea of free trade and commerce. And three years later, the Heritage Foundation is created. And

the first of Project 2025, the first mandate for leadership is created. And so I'll end with this. What you have done, Roland, is put it where the goats can get it, as Joe Madison would say. In a global system that is built on the concept of property dispossession and taking other people's labor, other people's land. That's why we're here having this conversation in English. The thing that has become ungovernable is the concept that whiteness can continue to run the world. They have no choice but to do what they are doing right now, because the only way you can maintain some kind of political apparatus to keep this going is to ground it in an irrational, vibe-driven concept of whiteness.

And the elites, whether it be Elon Musk, who will never get out of bed with China, this is what this electric vehicle stuff is about, because he's over there right now, back and forth, whether it be the other billionaires who could give a damn about citizenship or anything else, their concept is global, whether it be Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, or anyone else. At the center of this is this unruly group of people, these Africans, these indigenous people, these people who simply refuse to die and refuse to go away. You cannot pour your hopes and dreams into this concept of the United States. What you have to pour your hopes and dreams into this concept of the United States. What you have to pour your hopes and dreams into is yourself and take a page from every other group in this 500 year fight who have put themselves first.

And then you stand for a position of strength to begin to negotiate. But you talk in a language they don't understand. You start talking about we are Americans. We're better than this now. And you just walk this through. Why? See, people literally don't even realize how to get played. Nola, this is what the twice impeached, criminally convicted felon in chief said on Monday at the Insurrection Fest at the US Capitol. Guys, the video from the inauguration.

You had it up earlier. Yes, the video from the inauguration, they're requested, when you thank black people? We had a powerful win in all seven swing states, and the popular vote we won by millions of people. To the black and Hispanic communities, I want to thank you for the tremendous outpouring of love and trust that you have shown me with your vote. We set records and I will not forget it. I've heard your voices in the campaign and I look forward to working with you in the years to come.

Today is Martin Luther King Day and his honor. This will be a great day. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Ad free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English.

I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-stud on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.

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subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You say you'd never give in to a meltdown. Never let kids' toys take over the house. And never fill your feed with kid photos. You'd never plan your life around their schedule. Never lick your thumb to clean their face. And you'd never let them leave the house looking like, uh, less than their best. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it.

Never let them stay up too late. And never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, no, it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid

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Great honor, but in his honor, we will strive together to make his dream a reality. We will make his dream come true. And what did that liar do? Gut the very things the king fought for. And if you black and you fail for that bullshit, you are a dumbass, Nola. He couldn't even get it out.

He couldn't even finish the statement because it wasn't authentic. He couldn't even finish the end of the statement that we're going to make his dream come true. Lies, lies. And, you know, I'm so happy that we're talking about Du Bois because, you know, at the altar of MLK when it's MLK Day. And I would also say, you know, don't be surprised if they circle back and try to not make MLK a federal national holiday. I'm going to just go ahead and put that out there. But, you know, as we're having this conversation, you know, Roland, as you're walking us through the different reconstructions. The one thing that is rolling around in my head and, you know, Greg made so many salient points. That question that Du Bois asked in The Soul of Black Folk, how does it feel to be a problem? It is a question that is so salient in this moment, because what

you're talking about is Black people have been a problem in this country since the day we were stolen from Africa and brought here illegally. We have been a problem because you can't get rid of us. Everything has been tried. You treated us like cattle. You enslaved us. You put us on plantations and maybe get to thriving, to your point, it is completely taken away from us. And, you know, I have posted something on my Instagram, not the popular speeches from MLK, but it was this one quote that he said, basically, how dare you ask of a man to pull himself up by his bootstraps when he does not own any boots? That's paraphrasing. And so essentially, this is the story of the Black person in America. How do you expect us to continue to fight over and over and over and over when people are constantly trying to steal our boots. The raggedy boots we may have on that we may that we are proud to wear. And they are constantly trying to take our boots. And I just I'm such a Du Boisian. I actually have him on my international relations and race syllabus, something that I got a lot of side eyes for, but I don't care.

But you really have to think about this in a context of what we've represented from day one in this country. And also, I'm going to bring in Barack Obama into this. The fact that that black man was the president of this country and pretty much went eight years unscathed, you know, no major dramas outside of the tan suit, you know, him and his really black wife, you know, that did something to white America. It drove them insane. Right. It literally drove them insane so everything that we're seeing is successive everything is successive and you want to even go further further back to that i always tell people in one movie if you've never seen black klansman please watch black klansman and watch it until the end because what spike lee does at the end of that movie with david duke and how they have been generationally trying to get to a Project 2025 moment. They have been putting in the work for generations. They have been reworking and retooling. And this is where we are now. We've made too many strides. There's been a Negro as president. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. These black folks are being way too fancy, way too fancy. We have to snatch

their boots. And that's, this is a moment that we're in right now, the snatching of the boots. When you told us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, oh, but that's DEI, right? That's not merit. We didn't deserve any of those boots that we put on ourselves. So here we are again. They're trying to make us bootless. But what we do know is how to be a damn problem in the United States of America. See, Larry, I love these people, especially my haters who are out there. They were, you know, yeah, trying to tell y'all to vote and why you gotta vote and all this.

Guess what? The conservatives were waiting for us to be stupid. The conservatives were waiting for us. To sit on the couch for all y'all smart asses out there, let me help y'all out. Do y'all know the justification that Chief Justice John Roberts gave for gutting Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act, it came post-election of Obama. He said, well, since they voting in record numbers,

there's no need for Section 4. And guess what has happened since 2012? Our vote numbers went down in 2014, in 2016, in 2018, and 2018 and 2020 and 2022 and 2024, we didn't show up in Louisiana. And guess what? Crazy deranged MAGA Jeff Landry was elected. There are more eligible black voters in Texas than any state in the union. And guess what? We barely are hitting 50 percent, even in places like Atlanta, where you should be seeing turnout at 50 and 60 and 70 and 75 percent. No, we're seeing turnout in the mayoral elections at 18, 20, 22, and 26. And so what these conservatives are sitting here doing is saying, thank you. Thank you.

We have so frustrated y'all. We have so devalued y'all. We have told y'all how the Democrats don't do nothing for y'all. So therefore, you don't vote for them. And you sitting on the couch. All it does is solidify our power. And as a result, they are running the table in places all across the country. The reality is that there's no reason Republicans should ever have a super majority in North Carolina. They don't have it now. But if black folks voted our numbers in North Carolina

That would never happen in fact if black folks would vote for our with our numbers in South Carolina South Carolina would change Georgia would change Florida would change the Mississippi would change when Mike SP lost to Cindy Hyde Smith and that special election, he lost by 65,000 votes. There were more than 100,000 eligible black people in Mississippi who could have voted, but who did not. And so for all of y'all who love to sit here and talk about, man, you always talking about vote. You always talking about vote. I don man, you're always talking about voting. You're always talking about voting. I don't know why you're always talking about voting.

Now you understand what happens when they have power. Now you understand when the parties come down and they get rid of their signed executive orders and they begin to gut civil rights and economic rights. And now you understand when they change the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. Now you are about to see with your own eyes every single generation alpha, generation Z, millennial, generation X, what it looks like to live close to Jim Crow. Now I know some of y'all are saying, Roland, this ain't Jim Crow because I can go to the club with a white woman. This ain't Jim Crow because I can go out

and we can go here and I can use this water fountain. I can use this bathroom and I can go here. But you need to understand, and I'm telling you right now, mark it down, 7.40 p.m. Eastern on January 23rd. A year from now, you are going to see a dramatic drop in the contracts that black-owned businesses will receive from corporate America and from state governments and from county governments and city governments and school districts. You are about to see an economic calamity come down in black

America because too many of us sat our asses on the couch, chose not to vote because we said, well, if I don't get nothing before I vote, then I'm not going to vote. Now you are witnessing with your very eyes what happens. And then what you have are some of these same people who I saw your tweets. Well, I'm saying that we got to do for self. We're going to do for self. Let me explain to you everybody who keeps talking about doing for self. Please explain to me how you are going to do for self in an industry that requires contracts. Please tell me how you're going to do that. If you do not have black companies that control every aspect of the supply chain, then you cannot do for self. shut out of contracts from federal government, state government, county government, city government, school districts. How are you going to do that? Right now you have an assault on federal workers

because of MAGA. Black people over index in federal worker jobs. We are a higher percentage of workers in the federal government than we are in the population of the United States. There are more black people who have high five-figure and six-figure jobs in government than we do in corporate America. So when you begin to see those attacks on the federal level, you're then going to begin to see black people not be able to get the jobs in corporate America, which now means you can't buy a house. You means you cannot save money. You cannot invest money.

You cannot afford to send your kids to college. And then when they cut Pell Grants, you can't send your kids to college to HBCUs because you don't have a 75 and 80. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future

where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.

Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod.

And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded

a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher.

Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corps vet. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.

It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

You say you'd never give in to a meltdown. Never let kids' toys take over the house, and never fill your feed with kid photos. You'd never plan your life around their schedule, never lick your thumb to clean their face, and you'd never let them leave the house looking like less than their best. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it, never let them stay up too late,

and never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, know it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out. Never happens. Before you leave the car, always stop, look, lock. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council.

$100,000 a year job because now what are you going to be able to do? And so I need people to understand, Larry, this is what happens when you choose not to exercise that one basic power of voting. Then what you begin to do is lead to an economic catastrophe in the black community. and all of the work that people put in to create even what we got, which was not perfect. We are about to see and I'm telling y'all it's happening. We are about to see not an erosion of what we built up, you are about to see an economic catastrophe that will take another century to rebuild. You know, Roland, you know, given the harsh reality for where we are right now, as you know, in terms of the Black community. And essentially before the election, people dismissed a lot of racist rhetoric and said it was nothing to ignore. It won't have any impact about our livelihood.

But some folks, and particularly I'm talking to the brothers out there, 20, 21 percent of brothers who voted in the wrong direction, essentially what you believed is that it's okay to be a lived-in hostage, because that's essentially what happened is Black folks would be like lived-in hostages, because you talked about the economic impact, and this is connected to the political impact. I also want to mention, when you provided that timeline, one of the things we need to do, what's really important is folks need to make sure they educate themselves. So, I'm going to recommend you read Just Permanent Interest by former

congressman and one of the founders of CBC, William Clay, William Clay Jr., in terms of understanding it in terms of where we started, where we are as a Black community. And so, Roland, your point about how long this is going to take in terms to

reverse all these issues that we want to deal with as a community. And I don't think folks are really prepared. You know, we've seen the last 48 hours. It's essentially kind of like a shock and awe in terms of the executive orders. But we talk about there's a significant number of Black folks who work for the federal government, not only in the D.C. area, but throughout the United States. And so you see, essentially, they put out a rat request. If there are any DEI programs that they think they missed, if you don't report it, they're going to fire you, too. So now you're going to have folks turn on other people who maybe

have nothing to do with DEI, submit their people's names, and they may lose their job. And of course, these folks are going to be disproportionately Black. So what does that leave many people in our black community, in our community as it relates to economics? The other thing I want to highlight, Ron, in terms of we talk about this historical nature about issue about racism in America is I need the folks to go back and check out the debate between, you know, you know, we had the debate in Cambridge at Massachusetts between Baldwin and Buckley in

1965. The same, the same, the same Buckley who supported the Civil Rights Act until Barry Goldwater wrote his book, The Conscience of a Conservative. Right. And so the title of the debate was the American dream is at the expense of the American Negro. And like many people, I've seen it a number of times, but I need some folks to go back and watch that. That's important to make. And we know Buckley is kind of the father of the modern conservative network we see today. But it's really important in terms of historically for Black folks to understand that the fight that we're undergoing now has consistently happened for centuries. But at least at some point, particularly

like I said, I talked about earlier with the Great Society programs, that we had some kind of success in terms of ending Jim Crow. And then we've seen some other opportunities. We talked about the election of President Obama, obviously some economic growth. Black folks had the opportunity to go to any higher education institution they want to. But then folks said that's too much. And we need to dismantle all of that. So what you're seeing is a complete reversal of all the success that we've seen over the last several decades. And folks are unprepared for it because they thought that, you know, this

is all, you know, smoke and mirrors, this is all a game. No, we're in it now. And so what are we prepared to do? Because we have to continue to keep fighting, but we need to make sure we have obviously some policies in place in terms of initiatives, in terms of what we do strategically to address this issue. Because it is going to be a 24-7 fight to make sure that we maintain a minimum of some of the things we've gained over the next several years, really for the next several generations for new for some of the new laws to make sure to counter a lot of the challenges we've had. See, the mistake that people are making is y'all are looking at this through a Democratic and a Republican lens.

That's right. I'm not I don't look at this stuff through a Democratic and a republic lens. That's right. I don't look at this stuff through a democratic and a republican lens. I look at this through a black lens. I look at this through the eyes of a black man. I'm looking at policies

and I look at how people operate. Go to my iPad. Y'all, if you don't understand today's modern Republican Party, this is the book that changed it all. Barry Goldwater and the conscious of a conservative. What does it say right here? Edited by C.C. Goldwater, right with a new forward by George F. Will and a new afterward by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. See a whole bunch of y'all. Oh, I saw a bunch of y'all entertainers, too. Y'all were talking about y'all were supporting Robert F. Kennedy. And you didn't even realize. The game that he was running. Y'all didn't realize that.

And I saw some of y'all, man, were comelyala, she should have she should have made an outreach to Robert F. Kennedy. Why? Everybody knew RFK Jr. was. See, y'all ain't see folk falling. Y'all falling for the okey doke. When you are making a decision who to vote for you make a decision based upon what I see what I hear how things are operating look at this here all of these Donald Trump said I will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours y'all fell for it in 24 hours.

Y'all fell for it. Y'all sit here and y'all fall for all of this stuff. Not even remotely realizing what is going on. You don't even understand again what is happening

because you know what I hear? A lot of our people. I don't read. I don't watch the news. I don't read stuff. So how in the hell can you be informed if you have no idea of what is happening even in the world? Oh, I see the numbers. I see the numbers. And let me be real clear.

Let me be real clear. This is this is not a shot at a focal. I know. Oh, but I'll see y'all love and shenanigans and sports YouTube channels and commentaries. Oh, everything is fun. But let me help you all out. Let me help you. Do I still have that? Let me find it. Let me see if I can find it on Facebook. I'm sorry. This actually was posted just yesterday.

I'm trying to pull it up right now. And it showed all of the folks who are getting offer letters rescinded for jobs. Are y'all aware that there were scholarships that were awarded to black folks and others that are now being rescinded. Are y'all aware that there are people who had jobs in the Department of Veteran Affairs where they're trying to take care of America's troops and they are rescinding jobs for those people? Oh, if y'all want to have the conversation, we can. And so what is happening before our very eyes, we are literally seeing massive changes take place. And some of us are just joking and playing and having so much fun. But I'm warning you, I'm warning you,

and they're not understanding this, Nola. They're targeting black PhDs. They're targeting folks with masters. They're targeting every single one of the programs. See, we had some simple simple minded Negro in the chat. I voted for Harris, but Roland Martin was talking down to the regular people in the streets. And I'll say it. No problem. Panther 55. You can kiss my ass. Because, see, I can guarantee you I can go in the streets and see, I know what I'm told. I know there are barbershops that are streaming our show in the barbershops. I know because I get the letters and the brothers who were in prison stop me and saying, man, I got through prison watching you.

See, y'all can sit here with that bullshit all you want to. Oh, you the Bule and y'all talking dumb. That is dumb as hell. Because first of all, right now is 50 is 5500 people who are watching YouTube right now. Hey, dumbass, it's only 5,000 Boulay members. So guess what? And I guarantee you, the entire Boulay ain't watching me right now. But see, Nola, that's the simple.

I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them.

From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.

In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This has kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher.

Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.

It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

You say you'd never give in to a meltdown. Never let kids' toys take over the house. And never fill your feed with kid photos. You'd never plan your life around their schedule. Never lick your thumb to clean their face. And you'd never let them leave the house looking like less than their best. You'd say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it,

never let them stay up too late, and never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, know it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out. Never happens. Before you leave the car, always stop, look, lock.

Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Well, Simon shit that some of these folk don't realize. And while they sitting here yelling about where you are, you ain't you ain't talk to talk to talk to people. You talk directly. Guess what? You getting jacked. The programs that are happening. Oh, these things are going down as we speak. No, look, you are hearing from these people. You are hearing from long, I guarantee you are hearing from long serving diplomats in the State Department, people who have given their lives to the federal bureaucracy,

people who believe in what Ralph Bunch was doing, the first African American to win a Nobel Peace Prize, who are summarily being dismissed because what they say. In fact, y'all don't even, do y'all have the clip where Donald Trump said he could tell who's an illegal immigrant? Play it. Open borders with people pouring in,

some of whom, I won't get into it, but you can look at them and you can say, could be trouble. Could be trouble. You can look at them and tell you could be trouble. That's what they are saying right now to black people in the federal

government. Nola. First and foremost, it's just plain old school racism. No more, no less. Just plain old, old school racism. Nothing new. But you know, one of the most successful tricks ever played on black folks is to convince a large population of us that education does not matter. Why do you think people work so hard trying to convince people that higher education does not matter? It's a reason. It's a reason. As you alluded to earlier, Roland, as you were talking about Ronald Reagan and, you know, raising the price of education. My parents met at LSU, the New Orleans campus, which is now UNO.

And my daddy always tells this story about how he paid my mom's tuition. He paid my mom's tuition out of his pocket. And then fast forward, what, 15 years later, you have to take out a second mortgage to send your child to school or that child gets in debt starting out their professional careers, right? So this conversation about, oh, you uppity Negroes, you know, trying to bring back the talent intent and all that stuff. At the end of the day, it is so easy, Roland and everybody on this panel, to my colleagues, to seduce angry, ignorant people. And I'm not calling folks out there ignorant, but what I'm saying is...

I'm calling the ignorant ignorant. Go ahead. I knew you were going to come in. I'm going to call the ignorant ignorant. I knew I could rely on you for that assist. What I'm a caller, isn't it? I knew I could rely on you for that assist. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is as part of the strategy is part of the strategy to target a certain population because they they are thinking of you as ignorant. Right. They are thinking of you as gullible in the social sciences. It's called conditioning, right? So you, you, you condition people to respond the way that you want them to respond. And that is what we are seeing. And we saw so much of it rolling. We saw so much of it over, you know, this, this administration, especially, especially during those 107 days with Kamala, there was so much

debate. You know, there was some, there were people that were mad that she spent a lot of time at the HBCUs, that it was too elite. It was too elite that it was too much about divine nine, too much about divine nine. Okay. That's fine. Maybe, maybe not. But the thing that has always bothered me, and I've stood 10 toes down on this when people try to push back and say, well, not everybody wants to have an education. Education isn't for everybody. And I'm like, OK. I'm not trying to run a race with no shoes on. I'm just not, you know, like I but I come from a community in New Orleans where high education was. That's what you do. You can get married, but you for sure going to college, you know, so I am grateful to my community for that. But this debate, Roland,

I'm telling you, it is something for me as an educator, I have dedicated my life to education. And it hurts me sitting here as a black woman, that somehow we have become the enemy, that the black expert, particularly, all experts right now are pretty much lined up against the wall, you know, and they're ready to kind of like, but when you're black and an expert, and when your own community doesn't have your back, somehow you become the enemy. You have been conditioned to celebrate the athlete, to celebrate the entertainer, but us three black asses sitting up

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