#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Roland in TX; #MarchForDemocracy continues; Infrastructure deal; STL health dept. dir. under attack

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Today is Thursday, July 29, 2021. Roland Martin on the filter, broadcasted live from the North Austin Muslim Community Center here in Austin, Texas. Day two of the March for Democracy. We, of course, have been covering this, so we're going to give you a recap of what took place today. You'll hear from Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr., also from Reverend Dr. William J. Barber, Beto O'Rourke, and some of the protesters, some of the marchers here as well. In Washington, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee was arrested today, O'Rourke and some of the protesters for the marchers here as well in Washington.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Congressman Sheila Jackson Lee was arrested today protesting at the Senate Hart Office building. We'll show you some of the photos from Capitol Hill. Also on today's show, Texas legislators were on Capitol Hill speaking before Congress and also meeting with officials there. We'll talk to State Representative Symphonia Thompson,fronia Johnson, I'm sorry, of Houston. Also, a bipartisan infrastructure deal apparently is now done. Two point one trillion dollars also was approved by the Senate for Capitol Police and others. Also in St. Louis, the interim health director was man was cuss out and dogged for people because of a mask mandate.
Starting point is 00:01:25 What the heck is going on? We'll hear from him. Also, attorney Gwen Wilcox will be the first black woman to sit on the National Labor Relations Board. Plus, a crazy-ass white person in Mississippi. Wait till you show you what this cop did. Folks, with our jam-packed show, it's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin on a filter. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:01:45 He's got it. Whatever the show, it's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin on a filter. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best belief he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics. With entertainment just for kicks. He's rolling.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's Uncle Roro, y'all. It's Rolling Martin. Rolling with rolling now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's fresh, he's real, the best you know He's Roland Martin Martin All right, folks, welcome back to, welcome to Roland Martin on the Filter. We're broadcasting again from the North Austin Community Muslim Center here in Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 00:02:49 This was the location for the end of the second day of the march. We, of course, live streamed the entire event. If you want to see all of it, just simply go to Roland Martin, our YouTube channel, youtube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. To see it, guys, kill the music, please. I'm still hearing music. So please kill the music. Thank you very much. And so, like I said, we were actually covering all of this today and giving you a sense of what took place here.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Folks were on the streets there. Give me one second, guys. I actually have a package that I put together. So let me know if you guys are seeing my iPad. And so I'm going to actually show that in a second. We, of course, had folks who were marching today. And like we said, we told you about yesterday, they operated in multiple shifts. They operated in multiple shifts. They operated in multiple shifts, and that's sort of how they were coordinated. We started at Good Hope Baptist Church in Round Rock, ended up here at the North Austin Muslim Center.
Starting point is 00:03:56 All right, and so here's a recap of what took place today. No, there's audio. I'm seeing the video. You should be getting audio. So let me do this here. Let's get this all straightened out, and then we'll handle that. I'm going to bring in my panel right now. We have joining us on the show Recy Colbert, Black Women's Views. Dr. Greg Carr, Chair, Department of Afro, first of all, Afro-American Studies at Howard University.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Faraji Muhammad, also radio and TV host. I want to start with you, Greg. What we are seeing is pressure. One of the things that Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. has said is that pressure busts pipes. And Reverend Dr. William J. Barber has said the exact same thing. And all of a sudden, you're now hearing Senator Chuck Schumer say they're going to vote on a voting bill before recess. That's not what they were saying before. This is what happens when you apply pressure, external public pressure, on politicians.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's absolutely right, Roland. In watching the coverage yesterday, today, one of my very dear friends, Aya Nelly, was out there with the banners with her two youngest children, her two boys, driving in from Colleen, Texas, and marching, and watching in between my other work obligations. What really strikes me is that—and echoing your conversation with Reverend Barber the other night, this is the type of elevation of this issue that requires people to pick a side. It's simple. Which side are you on?
Starting point is 00:05:56 The white nationalists are terrified now. I know we all probably saw the story out of Georgia the last couple of days. They're trying to take over the Fulton County Board of Elections. They have dropped all pretenses. But what this does in the work of—reminds us of the 1960s. What this does is put the choice of which side you're on very clear. And just like you got on MSNBC and called out everybody in the damn country, why aren't you in the street? You don't need everybody in the street at this point. But what you do now have is a clear choice. You are either for our common humanity or against it. And so I'm not surprised at all that Schumer is moving or anybody else for that matter in elective office. So I want to do this here. I want to play for you guys again,
Starting point is 00:06:42 a compilation of what took place today. So, folks, if you can go to my iPad, let's go. Are you on the people? Which side are you on? I'm on the people's side. Which side are you on? Are you on the people? Which side are you on? I'm on the people's side.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So we're going to make our demands clear. We want to end the filibuster. End the filibuster. We want to end the filibuster. End the filibuster. We want to end the filibuster. End the filibuster. We want to pass the For the People Act.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Pass the For the People Act. We want to pass the For the People Act. Pass the For the People Act. Hey. Hey. Awesome. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated. The people united will never be defeated.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Today was a lot longer march than yesterday. Today was about nine miles. The guy, stay with the video, please. Thank you. Today was about nine miles. Here's, stay with the video please. Thank you. Today was about nine miles. Here's my conversation with Riverdissy Jackson Sr. and rejected it. So I don't have the council to write them. Well, I have the state to write them. I think that we're getting the attention from the fact that people are asleep. So for the people who say marching doesn't mean anything, what do you tell them? It's a form of education.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's a feeling of spite when marching. Even the police get confused at times when we march. We march when we're right. And then it's safe and secure when we march. I'm going to march. We march soon. I in time. We lost. We lost the right. We lost the security. We lost. I'm in a lawsuit. I'm out of Texas. We lost the chain chain.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We'll adjust things. We'll maladjust it. We're going to fight back. All right, then. Reverend Jackson, always good to see you. Thank you, Reverend. Keep going. Good job. Keep going. As I said, folks, that was about nine miles going from Good Hope in Round Rock to North Austin, New Zealand Community Center, where we are right now.
Starting point is 00:09:36 It was a lot warmer yesterday. Thank goodness we did have some overcast in the beginning, but that served us well. Spirits were high as we'll hear a couple of marches we're getting started we're just getting started but we're making change and i think that that fuels us every time every time the reverend delivers good news on how we're making progress in dc like our steps get you know a little bit stronger we're making progress in D.C., like, our steps get, you know, a little bit stronger. We're stomping our foots a little bit harder. Absolutely. These steps, once they're closer to justice, we don't get there.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Eventually. It could be worse. It could be hotter. It could be... They could be trampling us with horses. None of that's happening. It's easy. Nothing. Tomorrow's going to be the last day before we go into the state Capitol grounds on Saturday. And the whole goal is continues to bring attention to the issue we're going to make Texas the front of the freedom movement.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. Congratulations, neighbor. And say neighbor. Neighbor. Thank you. Thank you. For being a part. For being a part.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Of this moral. Of this moral. Resurrection. Resurrection. For raising up for wages.'re raising up for wages. We're raising up for voting rights. We're raising up for voting rights. We're raising up for immigrant rights.
Starting point is 00:11:16 We're raising up for immigrant rights. We're raising up for justice. We're raising up for justice. All right, folks, a little bit later in the show, I'm going to show you Beto O'Rourke, Reverend Dr. William J. Barber, and Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr., the three of them, when they spoke together, speaking to the people assembled doing one of the breaks. Recy, we keep talking about why pressure matters. And you heard me ask Reverend Jackson, why does it matter to protest? It amazes me, these people who go, oh, these marches don't make any difference. Yet when you see 500,000 people in Hong Kong, when you see millions of people who were in Tunisia, who were in Egypt, who were in Libya. So it's amazing when I hear some black folks say that, like everybody else in the world got the memo and kept the memo and updated the memo. We got folks today who still go, oh, these things really don't make any difference.
Starting point is 00:12:16 We have a complacency issue. And so I definitely think that one of the things that the marches do at a minimum is it does shake some people out of their complacency marches do, at a minimum, is it does shake some people out of their complacency. And I think, at a minimum, if you look at these folks and say, listen, I'm not willing to get out there in the heat. I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about other people watching. If you're not willing to get out there in the heat, if you're not willing to march and grab that megaphone, the least that you can do is vote when it's time to vote. But pressure absolutely does matter, because what these politicians follow is they follow these stories that get the attention.
Starting point is 00:12:50 If it's not getting attention, if a tree falls in the forest, nobody damn hears it. And so the only way to keep this on the front burner is to do these sorts of things and show politicians that there isn't widespread complacency. So my hat goes off to all these folks, because this is grueling work, what they're doing. And they're really putting their mouth behind their actions. And that is so critically important. And one of the things I want to also emphasize is, even with federal legislation being passed, there still needs to be engagement from voters across the country at the local level to make sure that their vote counts, because gerrymandering is going to happen at the
Starting point is 00:13:32 state level. Who knows if voting legislation will pass before that can be taken into account. But if people stay engaged at the local level, which people tend to check out at the local level, they check out at the state level, they check out during midterms. If we can change that tide, we can change that habit, then maybe we can start to see some real change. If we get complacent, if we say that it doesn't matter, all these voting rights is a Black issue or it's a fringe issue, it's a niche issue that isn't going to impact us, we're going to see drastic repercussions for that in 2022 when the Republicans have their way. And they have shown in 2010 and other years that they can absolutely suppress their way into power. We can't just outvote them this time. If they do, if they're successful at
Starting point is 00:14:18 gerrymandering these certain states, Texas being one of them, Florida being another one of them, there's nothing we can do at that point. And so now is the time to act and prevent that from even happening. Faraji, I guess I stated we're broadcasting from the North Austin Muslim Community Center. One of the things that the Poor People's Campaign and Black Voters Matter wanted to do with this March for Democracy, they wanted people to understand that it was an interfaith coalition of people. There were Catholic priests who were marching.
Starting point is 00:14:58 There have been folks who are Lutheran. There are people who are Muslim. There are folks who are Baptist. There are people who are white, who are black, who are Latino. And so we've had different people. That is intentional on the part of Reverend Dr. Barber, because what he is trying to say is this can't just be a Christian thing. It has to be a broad-based coalition of people from different backgrounds. Oh, yeah, absolutely, Brother Roland. First and foremost, morality has no religion. Justice has no religion. Treating people fairly and equitably has no religion. What we're seeing
Starting point is 00:15:32 right now is the manifestation of a worldwide revolution. I want to share with you very quickly with John Adams, one of the founders of this country. He said the revolution was affected before the war commenced. The revolution was in the hearts and the minds of the founders of this country, he said the revolution was affected before the war commenced. The revolution was in the hearts and the minds of the people. This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. And so when you're talking about bringing
Starting point is 00:15:59 those folks of different faiths and different socioeconomic backgrounds and really planting really having, you know, planting a seed in their minds and their hearts and their spirit that they want to change this country fundamentally. That's a revolution. You don't need to have, one of the big things, and I think one of the big fears that the United States of America has an issue with is the fact that when people become awakened to what has been happening to poor and oppressed people in this country, and once the awakening happened,
Starting point is 00:16:33 once there is a moral consciousness that has been pricked, then guess what's going to happen? You're going to start shaking people up. You're going to make people afraid, especially the leadership of this country. So this is a revolutionary move. And I want folks to know this very quickly. I want folks to not be concerned about the numbers because we often get tied up in the numbers. You talked about some of the big numbers, but you know what, Brother Roland, Dr. Carl Reesey, we all know the numbers start small and then they grow. So you see a few hundred people walking down the road in Texas and you say, oh man, that's not going to create nothing. But look at what has happened when you put this demonstration compared to the demonstrations that may be happening in other
Starting point is 00:17:16 places around the country. It's just like, it's so reminiscent of what we saw in the civil rights movement. The civil rights movement wasn't mass gatherings all the time. It was small demonstrations, grassroots organizing on this level that created the culture and the network for us to have what we now call the civil rights movement. But it really starts in the hearts and the minds of the people. It starts with people saying enough is enough.
Starting point is 00:17:44 People are tired of white supremacy. People are tired of injustice. People are tired of just this political division that we're seeing in this country. And Dr. Barber said it best, you're fighting for the soul of America. Now, depending on where you stand on the spectrum, you might say America has no soul to be saved. But the reality is that we live in this country in present day 2021. We have to say enough is enough and do something to ensure that the generation coming behind us don't become burdened with the same madness that we're fighting now. The thing here, by making this a moral issue, that has always been something that black folks have done. Dr. Carr, that was something that I always say is common.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There's a line in the song Glory where it says, freedom is like a religion to us. Freedom is like a religion to us. In fact, it was interesting when we were marching today, at one point that was a song that was on, a very popular song. I can't remember who the artist was. A lot of people really liked the song. Dr. Bob said, uh-uh, I need movement music. He said, I need movement music. He said, I need movement music. And so I then went and grabbed my phone,
Starting point is 00:19:12 and I had them connect my phone to their Bluetooth. And just to give you all a sense of just some of the stuff that I had. I played Greg. Woke up this morning by John Legend. Glory by John Legend and Common. Also woke up this morning by Sweet Honey and The Rock. You will know Black Men United. We played Wake Up Everybody, Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Really Teddy P. We marched by Prince. One Day by Morgan Heritage fight the power by public enemy and fight the power by the Isley brothers we did keep marching by Raphael Sadiq had to hit some Marvin Gaye of what's going on of course I had to play some Curtis Mayfield and the impressions keep on pushing then and then and then dropped and then dropped the OJs Put Your Hands
Starting point is 00:20:08 Together, People Get Ready, The Impressions. Had to do that one. And then there were a couple of more that we played. And so Rem Barber said, see, he said, I knew you would have some movement music. He said,
Starting point is 00:20:23 on your phone. Yes, sir, brother. Well, I mean, I'll be quite honest with you. America doesn't have a soul, Brother Faragi. What America has is people who live in it. And as you say, we are hostage in this state unless we do something to intervene. And as you know, Bob Moses has been heavy on all our minds. I heard Reverend Theodorearis lead out with a remix
Starting point is 00:20:47 of Which Side Are You On? And she dropped Ella Baker's name and Bob Moses' name. And that eclectic playlist you just read off includes movement music that would get me going. Certainly, I would love to hear Curtis Mayfield, If There's Hell Below, We're All Going to Go, because I don't think that you can necessarily appeal to the soul of a place that has no soul. But I think the larger point, and this is very important, is to understand, as you say, when these numbers begin to swell, they will reflect the fact that there's something that you talk about during the Black Power movement called operational unity.
Starting point is 00:21:21 We all don't have to agree. Well, one of my favorite groups and formations out of that Black Power movement, Civil Rights Black Power movement with those young people in SNCC, were the SNCC singers who became the Harambee singers. And every time I'm around them, I ask them... I've got a four-disc set of Freedom songs from the SNCC singers and others and that makes up a significant part of my Black Power
Starting point is 00:21:48 playlist. Oh, yes, sir, brother. And so you have, and that's that classic Smithsonian list, and so you heard many times a song that I always ask them. Chuck Neblett, one of my favorite SNCC singers. I saw Chuck in Selma right before the COVID thing hit, the last Selma Jubilee.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And I said, Chuck, man, do y'all mind singing Governor Wallace? And tell that story, brother, to these young people. They had young people. Rose Ture had them there. We were in Montgomery, and she was there with a lot of the young people and in Selma, teenagers. And so he told that story. See, the movement music is generated often by the young people, and they're taking the music of their time. During that period, it was doo-wop. So they made this Governor Wallace song. He said it was kind of,
Starting point is 00:22:31 Well, you read in the paper, shoot-oop, be-doop-be-doop. And then they get Governor Wallace, oh, yeah, you never can jail us all. Chuck said, when I looked out on the steps of the Montgomery Capitol and saw all them people, and I'm thinking now about Saturday in Austin, y'all, he said, this coming Saturday, he said, I looked out and I said, shit, Wallace can't put us all in jail. And that's when they came up with the lyrics, the Governor Wallace segregation is about to fall. You can't put us all in jail.
Starting point is 00:23:03 The reason I raised that, Bob Moses said this in an article he wrote in 2010 on the question of constitutional property versus constitutional people. He says, this country is set up around property, and Black people were brought into it as property. He said, but what we saw in Mississippi was real constitutional participation by people who didn't wait on words to give them any notion of their humanity. And he said, you go in the halls of Congress, you try to pass civil rights legislation, you do the voting.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He says, but while you're doing that, there are three things that make this work. Outside of Congress, you have got activism, you have got collaborative work between people who might not agree on everything, and then you got service and sacrifice. And the thing about Bob Moses, it was always clear with him and that whole generation, finally, was that, as they are participating in it, they're building the type of society they want, we want to live in. So that we can't lose sight of the fact that that is what's going to transform this. And he said—I should mention this. He said—people say, well, does marching work? He says, let me be very clear.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You had a Martin Luther King element in this movement, and you had an Ella Baker element. He said, the Ella Baker elements, where we were, that's organizers. You're building strength. You're organizing. He said, think of Martin Luther King perhaps as the president of the civil rights movement. In other words, when the president speaks, that is kind of like a position where you're using a platform. And he said, when SCLC decided to go into the demonstration protest direction in order
Starting point is 00:24:36 to emphasize the contradictions in the country, that's when they got rid of Ella Baker as the executive director and went to Wyatt T. Walker. But Ella Baker was very happy not to be to Y.T. Walker. But Ella Baker was very happy not to be in that position because that wasn't her strength. Her strength was organizing and putting people together. She didn't say, so what you have to have is operational unity. What Barbara and Phil Harris and the Poor People's Campaign and Fueled by People is doing, they are learning the lessons of the past and understand that everybody plays a role. I'm never going to walk with that American flag as a banner.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You're going to have to find somebody else to carry that. But I will walk behind a red, black, and green, or I will go and help organize, and together, pressure busts pipes, brother, like Reverend Jackson said. That's a fact. Before I go to my representatives from Texas, I got to go back to the point that Recy made. And I do not want us to overlook this because Ari Berman came out with a report today that really speaks to that. It was some based upon some data. The Democrats only have a four seat majority in in controlling the House. But because of partisan gerrymandering, the Republicans could literally pick up 13 House seats in Texas, Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina. Now, folks, understand this. 75 percent, listen to me clearly, five percent. Listen to me clearly. Seventy five percent. Hold up. Let me dial that back. We have a civics lesson.
Starting point is 00:26:11 When you have a population shift, this is what the census comes in. What happens is they then apportion congressional seats, house seats, based upon population. So if your state, I think New York lost a seat because of 49 or 69 votes, something like that, okay? That's why the census matters. So Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, these northeastern states, they have been losing population to the south. So your population increases, you get more house seats. Listen to me clearly, folks. Seventy five percent of the growth in Texas, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida have been black and brown people.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yet. Yet the Republicans will potentially wipe out six congressional seats held by people of color and give those to white Republicans. Let me say that before I go to Reesey. 75% of the population growth has been black and brown people, but the Republican Party is going to make sure that the beneficiaries are white Republicans. Reesey. Oh, Lord. First of all, everybody is making me feel smarter just being on this panel. So shout out to y'all because there's so much history and knowledge being spit. I have to say that first. But second of all, we are playing a rigged game and we're playing defense because we have a chance to be on offense, which was 2020, which we were begging and screaming and crying about. Please vote local. Please vote down ballot. Please, please, please vote.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Now we've got to play catch up. Now we've got to be on defense. Now we've got to hope that something very improbable like the For the People Act passes with all the provisions, and if that will protect against gerrymandering. Now we've got to hope that the courts that are stacked with Trump judges, and I will say that President Biden is getting them judges in at an incredible pace, but now we have to hope that those courts will strike down some of this racial gerrymandering. They've done it in the past. But Mitch McConnell and Trump have put 200 right-wing judges on there, plus they have the Supreme Court on their side, that are anti-Black and brown people voting.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And so this is not to say that the situation is hopeless, but what it's to say is, is that we have to be mindful of the way that the chips are stacked against us. We have to be mindful about the particulars of how things happen in this country. It's a process thing. If you're explaining, you're losing,
Starting point is 00:29:01 which is why Democrats have a hard time of conveying why. It's so hard to get things passed because of the barriers that are put in place. And the Republicans think of the long game. And so we have to do something now. It might not save us for 2022, but we have to think 10 years in advance. And that's something that we've been talking about, particularly you, Roland, and I know this Thursday panel has been talking about. We have to think about the next couple of decades with every single election, because that's how the Republicans operate. And so it's so crazy that Black and brown people moving to the South, moving to areas like Houston, are going to be shut out even more and gerrymandered even more because white folks
Starting point is 00:29:43 know how to play the game. And what I can say is to the Democrats in places like Florida, I mean, I'm sorry, not Florida, but New York and California and where we have the power, y'all need to gerrymander the shit out of those places too to get some of those seats into Democratic hands. Because I'm sick and tired of Democrats trying to put in place these bipartisan commissions and stacking and not taking advantage of what we have and we have the power. And meanwhile, Republicans, they don't give a damn about the rules. They don't give a damn about democracy.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So we need to start fighting fire with fire, our damn selves. Absolutely. I want to bring in right now Representative Nicole Collier. She is the chair of the Texas Legislative Black Caucus. Representative Collier, how are you doing? All right. How are you rolling? Doing great. Also joining us right now is State Representative Sinfonia Thompson, also a house member of the Texas Black Caucus.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And, of course, I know her quite so well because she was a running buddy of my grandmother, Imelda Lamont. So wherever Representative Thompson was in Houston, my grandmother was right there. And so until she passed a few years ago, that was her running buddy. So we officially call Representative Thompson. We call her Sinfronia. How are you doing? I'm doing good.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And you? I'm doing great. First you? I'm doing great. First of all, y'all had, y'all were testifying on Capitol Hill today. Tell us how that went and what are you hearing from Senate Democrats? Are they getting the message? Are they feeling the pressure? Are they now understanding the gravity of this? We just talked about how they could,
Starting point is 00:31:20 how they could literally run the table with partisan gerrymandering. And that's totally separate from these voter suppression bills. Are these Democrats getting the message? Representative, call your first. Oh, well, thank you. I often yield to Ms. T, who is the dean of the Democratic delegation. But I will respond and say that we believe the message is moving forward. It's not where we want it to be before the deadline. So the special session ends August 7th.
Starting point is 00:31:51 We need action by then. It's unlikely that Congress will be able to take up the measures that are needed to provide the oversight and the protections for Texans' freedom to vote. But they're moving forward and they're still talking. So that's always a positive, you know, that's positive for us so that we can keep this message going, because this attack is not limited to Texas. This is happening all across our nation. They don't want us to vote because our numbers are growing. And the way that they keep stay in power is that they change the rules. They keep moving the needle further and further
Starting point is 00:32:28 when we get closer and closer. So we've got to keep moving forward ourselves. Now, one thing is we can't out mobilize racist gerrymandering. That's something that Reverend Barber said, and he is so right. We can't do that. We have to deal with what we have. And we've got to take back our communities and take back our positions so that way we can preserve
Starting point is 00:32:52 and promote our communities. Representative Thompson, you were there in the legislature when Tom DeLay, when he was in Congress, when the Republicans, not even in a census year, in an off-census year, chose to invoke political gerrymandering. You had a black House member, Ron Wilson, who went along with them because he thought he was going to get that congressional seat that is now held by Congressman Al Green. He got his butt kicked by a former teacher, and a lot of black folks have not forgotten how he screwed over black folks as a result of that. So Democrats need to understand Republicans don't play by rules, especially Texas Republicans.
Starting point is 00:33:39 They believe in power. And so this notion of Democrats, oh, let's be fair, let's all get along. You just heard Recy talk about, hey, if you Democrat, you run in the state, gerrymander the hell out of your state because the Supreme Court has already said you can do it. Republicans do not care. This is about how much power can we get. Well, they changed the rules as they need to change them. Here's the real bottom line, and you've been hitting it all day. The bottom line is that Texas is 83.5% people of color and 16.5% Anglo, and the 16.5% want to continue to dominate. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Slow, slow. No, no, no, no, hold up. I need you to repeat that for the really slow people watching and listening. I need them to hear that again. Give, say that again. Go ahead. Texas is 83.5% people of color and 16.5% Anglo. And the 16.5% wants to continue to dominate,
Starting point is 00:34:53 the 83.5%. That's the real problem here. The real problem is a shift in power and they don't want that shift to take place. But it's gonna have to take place, and we got to fight in order for that to happen. Since we have been in Washington, we have moved the needle from being dormant to being active.
Starting point is 00:35:18 We have visited our senators, all our senators. However, our Texas senators will not see us. But other senators have been kind enough to see us. And even Senator Manchin has been good with his time. He has been busy with us. We have been with Chuck Schumer. We have been with Cory Booker. We have been with many, many congressmen.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And, of course, you know, today we went and we testified on Capitol Hill for four and a half hours. So we are doing everything that we can to plead the case and to let them know that in 1965, it took a man from Texas by the name of Lyndon Baines Johnson to be convinced by Martin Luther King and many members, Mr. Wilkins and all, with the nwcp that he had to act that congress had to act and pass the voters right act and he did it in 1965 56 years ago we are here now asking them to move the needle again like lyndon johnson did pass the act not only only preclearance, but we want preclearance to look back five years. That's what is going to be meaningful for us. Every state ought to be under preclearance in the United States because the population
Starting point is 00:36:34 in every state are being increasingly minority. And if we're going to be able to assure that the minority people in this country are going to have a say in their democracy, that this is what it's going to take. I know a lot of people want to talk about having redistricting boards, nonpartisan. There's no such thing as nonpartisan. What they want to do is they want to empower a group of unelected bureaucrats, partisan, to go in there and draw lines for people in their own party.
Starting point is 00:37:08 The Congress, the Constitution gives this legislative-backed responsibility, and they need to have their feet held to the fire and do it right, and do it right for all people, and make sure that that 83.5 percent of people of color in Texas are treated fairly and those lines are drawn fairly. And the way to do that is Congress has to move off of that center and get it done. Well, first of all, Republicans still don't care about that. In Michigan, the voters actually passed a ballot measure to create a nonpartisan redistricting commission. The legislature said, we're going to ignore that. I mean, so that shows you how they don't care about what the voters think.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Representative Collier, have y'all met as a delegation yet with President Joe Biden? Has he met with all of the Texas House members? REP. Has he met with all of the Texas House members? No, he has not. In fact, he has we have met with the vice president, Kamala Harris, who has taken the charge of leading the voting rights for all of America. But we have not met with President Biden. And, you know, I like to remind people we're very resourceful. You know, people can walk and chew gum at the same time. So it's very it's very fitting if the president would be able to meet with us and also apply that Johnson type pressure on Congress, on the Senate to to act and wave the filibuster and keep moving.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And I want to just make sure that people understand why we're here asking for this preclearance. Ms. T talked about the preclearance and the five-year look back. Ever since the 1965 Voting Rights Act has passed, Texas has been found in violation every single decade. That means they're creating laws in contradiction to what is the protection. So they don't care. They still write laws that disenfranchise and discriminate against people of color. And unless we have oversight at the federal government with the preclearance, we're going to continue to see these measures passed that are going to reduce our voice at the ballot. Representative Townsend, look, I know y'all got to say the off that here y'all walked out of Texas. Y'all left y'all families.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Y'all left your friends. Some folks have canceled weddings. They've had other people who passed away not gone to funerals. Y'all to avoid getting arrested by Governor Greg Abbott to break the quorum. And President Biden hasn't found the damn time to meet with y'all, here y'all putting it on the line, and he wants to give speeches, and he hasn't even scheduled a meeting? That, to me, is wrong as hell.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Ms. T? Oh. That, to me, is offensive. Reversal Thompson, go ahead. Well, I think a Latin meeting is going to take place. I think his people has told him that. Well, he needs to hurry the hell up. Because how long have y'all been in D.C.?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Almost two weeks. Hell, two weeks.? Almost two weeks. Hell, two weeks? Almost two weeks. He found time to go play nine holes of golf in Delaware over the damn weekend. Well, listen. And I love golf. Voting is very important to us. And we welcome the opportunity to meet with the president to plead our case.
Starting point is 00:41:05 We're looking forward to it. We're not going to give up trying to meet with him. We want him to know how important this is and how urgency it is. This is the time that we have to have some action. And we are doing everything that we can to make sure we contact all our friends to make sure that it's happening. We have talked to the vice president two times, and we let her know that the urgency of this. We have left our jobs, our businesses, our families, our children. We have left everything. Everything is on the line, because we want to make sure, Roland, that we don't have to keep repeating history and keep fighting the same fights over and over again.
Starting point is 00:41:45 We want our children and our children's children to be able to have a voice in their democracy without somebody trying to chip away at that right that they have. This is a right guarantee us on the Constitution of the United States. And, damn it, it's time for us to be treated like we're some damn Americans and not like no damn slaves here in this country. Well, I agree 100 percent. Go ahead. Go ahead, Representative Colley. Go ahead. I was going to say we welcome the opportunity to speak with President Biden to share his vision on how he is going to help guide and provide support to the Senate and Congress to take up these very important elect voting bills so that the freedom to vote is protected for all Americans.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So, you know, we want him to show us how he has made election, the protection and your freedom to vote a priority for his administration. And I want to tell him how important it is... All right, then. And I want to tell him how important it is. All right then. And act now. I want to tell him how important it is. All right. Well, action and action now. Well, we're looking forward to that as well. So we're going to keep the pressure up as well. Representative Collier, Representative Thompson, we certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot for joining us. I'm Roland Martin. Always good to see you, Roland. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Folks, got to go to a break. We come back. We'll hear from Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. again, Reverend Dr. William J. Barber, and Beto O'Rourke. We'll also talk with the acting director of health in St. Louis County. Why are these people cussing this man out? Because he spoke in favor of a mask mandate? We'll show you that. And we got some other crazy stuff to show you, including this white cop who literally laid on top of a black woman to arrest her.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Y'all, the video's unbelievable. All of that and more as Roller Barton on the Filter continues broadcasting live here from the North Austin Muslim Community Center. We'll be back in a moment. The same forces that are trying to pass these bills across the country here in Texas. Yes, the press to stop, to undermine the vote. The same folk that block you from having living wages are the same folk that wouldn't fix your utilities problems.
Starting point is 00:44:13 In this time, when our voting rights are under attack and economic justice is being denied— We're launching a season of nonviolent moral direct action to demand four things by August the 6th, the 56th anniversary of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. Number one, end the filibuster. Number two, pass all provisions of the For the People Act. Fully restore the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And number four, raise the federal minimum wage to $15. Pass the For the People Act. That is the last best hope for voting rights, not just in Texas, but Georgia, and Florida, and about a dozen other states. Pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill and the For the People Act. Let our people vote.
Starting point is 00:45:06 The Latinx community is the rising electorate in Texas, and our representatives are threatened by these shifting demographics. Our pathway to citizenship, to a living wage, depends on our access to the ballot. This is not just a black issue. That's right. This is a moral, constitutional, and economic democracy issue. Poverty is reinforced by public policy.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And what happens in Texas, as well as in America, we create policies that perpetuate poverty, and then we criminalize the poverty that we create. There's only so much we can take, and it's time for us to stand up and speak loudly against what's happening here. I think in Texas that it is time for a Selma-like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I think we ought to run from Georgetown to Austin. And we ought to come to Austin, but we ain't coming to Austin just for Austin. We come to Austin to save the Washington, D.C. Which side are you on? And don't tell us you can't do all of this. You must do all of this for the soul and the heart of this democracy. Forward together.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Forward together. Forward together. The people our age have lost the ability to focus the discipline on the art of organizing. The challenges, there's so many of them and they're complex and we need to be moving to address them but I'm able to say watch out Tiffany, I know this road. That is so freaking dope. Hi, this is Essence Atkins. Hey, I'm Deon Cole from Black-ish.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Hey everybody, this your man Fred Hammond and you're watching Roland Martin, my man, unfiltered. All right, folks, of course, we're here at the North Austin Muslim Community Center. We told you we had an opportunity to live stream today's march. And at our second stopping point, where they stopped to get some rest, drink some water, use the restroom, they heard from Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr., Reverend Dr. William J. Barber, as well as Beto O'Rourke, all who have been involved in organizing this particular march
Starting point is 00:47:44 and wanted to show you what they had to say. Here we go. We have an embodiment of the fight before. Y'all may not know this, but on the day of the March on Washington, Reverend Reverend Jackson was in jail in Greensboro and left there. The histories are connecting connecting y'all. It took a moral fusion movement. Then go back and look at those pictures from seven of our government. It looked just like this. Martin, the river black and white, young and old, Jews, Muslims,
Starting point is 00:48:17 Christians. And as he said, it's making an impact. So I'm honored that he would leave D. C. And come and join us. Even if it's for an impact. So I'm honored that he would leave D. C. And come and join us, even if it's for whatever he decides to walk. And Reverend, there's some folk out here that said when when some of us may not walk, want to walk all the way there, take their letters, lend them their leg. So somebody out here, Lindsay, but we're thankful we're gonna take a little bit of a break. Now I don't want y'all to get too busy. I've got to tell you, it is incredibly powerful to be with Reverend Jackson here in Texas today.
Starting point is 00:48:58 He is everywhere that the fight needs to be fought. He's everywhere to encourage those who are marching right now, who are standing up for the most fundamental right that we can have as Americans, the right to vote. And I want to tell you that this is not something new. As Bishop Barber just said, during the march on Washington, Reverend Jackson cared enough about this country that he was willing temporarily to lose his freedom and be behind bars
Starting point is 00:49:24 because it was that important and that urgent and that necessary. And it was that leadership by 1965 that gets this country the Voting Rights Act and pushes President Johnson to use his political power to do it. All of us marching today are marching in the tradition of Reverend Jackson.
Starting point is 00:49:40 We are going to push President Biden to use his power to pass the For the People Act and ensure the right to vote for every single American. You all are our heroes and you are my heroes, sir. We're so glad to be with you. Thank you. The meeting in Washington, August 8th. I think it should be in St. Capitol on that day. It was actually in St. Capitol, but another thing that was going thing we spoke about that would keep them killing 20 citizens that day. That's right. Jim Falmer didn't tell them about it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 The fact is, none of us are in Washington and state capitol. That's the same time. We have the right to march, fight, change the Senate. Change the Senate. Change the Senate. Change the Senate. Change the Senate. McConnell.
Starting point is 00:50:36 McConnell. Now, did y'all hear that? Reverend Jackson, what we're saying is the Senate goes home. Now, they're talking about staying, and now they're talking about doing something, Reverend, because we're marching. But if things are not where they ought to be, yes, there ought to be some things in D.C., but there ought to be stuff happening in state capitals. And we're talking about that. We're going to talk to Ms. and I and Reverend Jackson about that.
Starting point is 00:51:01 You know, folk might be in D.C. on that day before. We might be in West Virginia. But all over this country, put this out in the media, that the Poor People's Campaign and the 40 organizations that are here, Reverend Jackson, Vado, Reverend Liz, we are saying that there needs to be marching on every state capital saying, in the filibuster, pass every provision of the 40 people's act, restore the voting rights act, pass the $15 living wage, and ensure the protection of our immigrant brothers and sisters. Everything happens from the bottom up. From Austin up, from Greensboro up, from Birmingham up, from Mount Gormley up, from Jackson up.
Starting point is 00:51:52 That's how movement takes place. So that's why we're here. To the media, be reminded, because I already had a question today. We limited this part of the march to 125 people for safety. We're gonna have a whole lot more. All right, turn down people. But everybody is welcome to Austin. Everybody's welcome on Saturday. And we just announced brother Beto myself, brother lives the campaign that Willie Nelson is going to join us for a special freedom concert in Austin. So media, you got to hear, in Austin.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And we're calling on other artists. We can't keep calm. Everybody needs to stand up. I got a call last night from Reverend Jackson. Where is it? I told him we want Chris Paul's number so we can text him and email him and ask him to talk to Senator. We need Jerry West, a major supporter of Manchin, to talk to him. But we need the president.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yes. If the president will come to Texas, go to Arizona, go to West Virginia, and then get the Speaker and the Senate Leader to call them to the well of the Congress and say, we got to protect the infrastructure of this democracy. We can do both at the same time, physical infrastructure and political democracy. It's so weird doing it, it can't be done. In fact, if it's not done, you're going to have more than bridges crumbling. You're going to have the democracy crumbling. That's right. done, you're going to have more than bridges crumbling. You're going to have a democracy crumbling.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Now, before we get started, don't y'all do too much of this, because I don't want you to be too tired. But we learned a long time ago, and Liz always reminds me says fight the power that is a song from the 70s. Just give us 30 seconds. Is my man up there? Has he seen me? He got me? Or I either got to give the people what they want. I really would like that if you got to give the people what they want.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You got that? OJ. How many of y'all know about the OJ? Don't y'all cry out and get the jam on and stuff. Yeah. Uh-oh. When y'all hear something say tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, that means the song is coming on.
Starting point is 00:54:25 We're gonna have talking to regional press today, and then we're going to be talking, have a press conference tomorrow. Tomorrow. Don't go too hard because it's hot out here. Uh-oh. Not too much. Don't hurt yourself. Don't hurt yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:43 You've got to have a little bit in you. Come on, put those crackers in the towel. Come on, put those crackers in the towel. Where is that crackers? Yeah, it says up out there. There you go, brother. There you go. We're ready for a change. Come on, let's sing it. Come on, sing it.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Come on. Let's go. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is. All right, we got 10 seconds. One more time. Come on. Thank you. Come on, somebody sing.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We want peace and justice and equality. Oh, Lord, somebody's going to die. We want peace and justice and equality. Come on, everybody. Come on, everybody. All right. All right. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:56:29 That's enough. That's enough. All right. You all got water? Yeah. See, I told Reverend Jackson to stop throwing them little mega hooks up there, but it's all good. We always have a good time.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I figured you would enjoy that one, Greg Carr. So I had to mess with Reverend on that one. I had to do that. But first of all, I said, we let that Q get away with it. He's already, you see him trying to, you see him trying to slick up with that. I shouldn't even do it, brother.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He, he, he, he, he, he tries it every time, but I'm always going to check them. So, but it's, we're certainly glad to see Reverend Jackson out here. Folks,
Starting point is 00:57:20 let's talk about what took place in St. Louis County where these folks lifted their mask mandate. They voted. These people are just beyond stupid. The Delta variant is going crazy. Massive number of cases we're seeing in Florida and Mississippi. And these folks, largely white conservatives, are just totally freaking out as a result of this. Dr. Faisal Khan is the interim director for the St. Louis County Department of Public Health.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And, folks, he wrote a piece detailing the kind of names these people called him, everything other than a child of God. He joins us right now. Dr. Khan, welcome to Roland Martin Unfiltered. Thank you, Roland. It's a pleasure to be here. I read your piece and I just sat there and I said, I mean, they, I mean, again, for folks with language, someone call you a cunt? They call, I mean, they were calling you those type of names because you were speaking, because as the, as the public health director, your job is to save lives. It's the health of the public. That is correct, Roland. It was a very disappointing and disturbing turn of events. And, you know, once you've whipped up a crowd of people into a frenzy and played on their worst fears to stoke hatred and anger and then
Starting point is 00:58:48 redirected them at government officials, things escalate very quickly. So it was an experience that left me shaken momentarily. And so was it during testimony or afterwards, or have people been calling you and emailing you with these vile attacks? So basically, as a public health official and as a public official, it is my responsibility to go to the county council, the legislative body, whenever I'm asked to, and explain the rationale and the data for public health policy. On Monday, this past Monday, St. Louis County imposed a mask order on our recommendations, my recommendations, based on the alarming data that we were seeing related to the Delta variant. And so I was asked to go to council on Tuesday evening. I was invited there by a member of the council to present information and explain the rationale for imposing the mask mandate.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I went in prepared to do just that. But what I walked into was a situation where hundreds of people had been whipped into a frenzy at a political rally outside the venue prior to the meeting and then brought in. So as I looked around, I saw a sea of angry faces. People were clearly upset and fired up. Hardly anyone was wearing a mask. That alarmed me more than anything else because I feared for that event becoming a super spreader event. And so it just went downhill from there. Clearly, this was an orchestrated political theater. It wasn't meant to be an exchange of knowledge or information.
Starting point is 01:00:38 We are seeing this all around the country, led by Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, these conservative talk radio hosts. You had this conservative talk radio host the other day who's actually in the hospital right now on a ventilator because he got COVID. And now all of a sudden his tune has changed, and he wasn't an anti-vaxxer, but he was damn near close. That's the kind of thing that we're seeing. Unfortunately, Roland, you know, the public discourse in the country over the last 18 months since the pandemic first hit us has just gone from bad to worse. This public health emergency, the worst that we have seen in 100 years, was unnecessarily politicized. And public health officials and scientists have been victimized and identified as public enemy number one. I don't count myself in that list. I'm not important enough or
Starting point is 01:01:31 significant enough. My idol, my role model, the man I followed into public health is the patron saint of public health, Dr. Anthony Fauci. And he has been subjected to 10,000 times as worst abuse. So we really are not in a happy place or a good place right now. People have formed strong opinions based on their political ideologies, to the point that the simple act of wearing a mask when you're indoors somewhere around people that may or may not pass or transmit disease has become a political statement. That is a sad reflection on where we are today. And from your position, can you explain to people watching why cities and counties are going towards telling people, even if you've been vaccinated, wear a mask.
Starting point is 01:02:27 There are some who believe that the vaccination makes you foolproof. It doesn't. No, sir, it does not. That is a very good question, Roland. And I explain this with an analogy of, you know, a battlefield game, which are popular with youngsters these days. The enemy that we're fighting is the virus. The enemy keeps changing its battle strategy and its tactics. It keeps introducing new weapons onto the theater of battle. We, as the defenders of health, have to adapt our strategy and evolve it to match that. And so the situation that we were in in November 2020 was not the same as the situation we us this in April, so you don't have any confidence in the vaccines, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:03:29 No, that's not true. This is an enemy that is a shapeshifter and it changes and adapts and wreaks havoc in many new ways. And we have to be nimble enough to respond to that. And it's amazing that people don't understand that. And I mean, they still attack Fauci by saying, well, you told us no mask. And it's like, well, things change, things evolve. And you and others, y'all are trying to keep up because people who don't understand, who don't do this for a living, don't realize how these, how when it goes from one person to the next, it changes and mutates and looks totally different down the road. And we actually had
Starting point is 01:04:10 scientists on this show in May of last year saying this was going to happen. Right. And I would warn anybody watching, this is not the end. We are right in the middle of this battle. There are more mutants on the way. They are already hitting parts of South America. Let us familiarize ourselves with the word lambda and pretty much every alphabet in the Greek, you know, every Greek letter after that, pretty much, because that's what viruses do. They find susceptible hosts and communities, particularly amongst unvaccinated or naive individuals who refuse to take precautions. And they cause disease and they mutate, as you said, and throw off new variants all the time. Well, this is it's unfortunate that you were attacked the way that you were attacked. I'm glad to see that you're standing strong
Starting point is 01:05:05 because the reality is there are those of us out here who appreciate folks like you, people who are committed public servants, who are trying to do their best to keep more of us healthy and alive as opposed to going to funerals. Thank you so much, Roland. I really appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Thank you so much, Roland. I really appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Thank you, sir. Reece, these people are losing their damn minds. I mean, these folks are, and look, every day I'm seeing nurses and doctors posting stuff of individuals who are laying up in bed. One guy, 24 years old.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Oh, he was trashing the vaccine. Now he needs a double lung transplant at 24. We showed a 34-year-old brother who was tweeting. He said, I got 99 problems. The vaccine not one of them. The mask ain't one. Guess what? He dead. No, no, no. He said the vaccine not one of the mask guess what he he dead no no no he said the vaccine
Starting point is 01:06:08 wasn't one he was dogging it trashed it guess what he dead he died we told us the other day i mean we hear more of these stories and but what gets me is the folks who are just now i'm not putting a mask on i wasn't you, Reesey, who tweeted, well, your ass put some pants on when you go into a store? No, that wasn't me, but that's good. No, no, I forgot. I forgot. Somebody tweeted, I swore it was you,
Starting point is 01:06:36 because, well, yeah, there were no F-words with it, so that wasn't you. But somebody tweeted, they said, your ass put pants on, you put shoes on. What the hell? Right, right. Here's the thing, Roland. People think that I'm some sort of paranoid weirdo when I talk about disinformation. I have been saying this since the beginning.
Starting point is 01:07:00 First of all, since Kamala Harris. Since I've been talking about Kamala Harris and the disinformation campaign that hit her and the way that the Russians have exploited the racial divisions, particularly trying to play on Black people and racism against Black people to sow division within this country. This disinformation war is winning. I remember earlier when we were talking about vaccine equity and access, and I said, yes, that is an issue, but we have to address the vaccine disinformation that is targeting our community. It's not just online thing. I saw a Dr. Blackstock, or that might not be her name. I forget exactly her name, but one of the prominent doctors who talks about COVID on Black Doctors Talk About COVID, she said that she was at a festival,
Starting point is 01:07:50 a Black festival, and the Robert Kennedy Foundation, their foundation, they were handing out flyers to Black people with anti-vaccination information. I know that I'm sure the people that the expert that you had on just a moment ago, that's a white community. And yeah, that's concern over there, too. But we also have to realize the way that our communities are laser-like targeted. They play on our mistrust of the system, which is warranted, certainly. But there are ways in terms of the vernacular and the way that we are targeted. There are ways in which the memes target us, the images that they use. And so until we deal with the anti-science, anti-information, disinformation, dissuasion, deterrence campaign, we're going to continue to lose that battle because it's belligerent
Starting point is 01:08:32 ignorance and it's a badge of honor. These people are the ones, I think that they're the smart ones. I think that they're outsmarting the rest of us and that they're protected with their juices and berries and their sea moss and that's good keep your immune system up strong baby if that's what you want to do but you need the damn vaccine as well because if you don't have the vaccine you're going to be in deep shit if you get it if you don't get it hey good for you but this delta variant they got delta plus they got lambda i saw somebody said uh covid and all delta and all her lying sisters need to go sit down somewhere. This is not going anywhere. And the scary part is that the appetite for some of the deterrence measures like mandatory masking, like social distancing, like, you know, limits in terms
Starting point is 01:09:19 of capacity, that's going away. So it's a free for all. And what our government has decided largely is that if you don't get the vaccine, you're on your own. You can die for all we care. Now I'm concerned, particularly about children, because right now the vaccine timeline is being pushed out for them. So we cannot just throw on the towel and say, well, you're a vax. You didn't get the vaccine. You're dumb. You're asked out because the children are the ones that are filling up hospitals. They actually have run out of pediatric beds. I believe it's in Mississippi where the children that are getting COVID are being shipped to other states. And so we cannot just simply turn a blind eye to the fact that people who are choosing to not get vaccinated are actually doing a disservice, and they are
Starting point is 01:10:06 detrimental to our public health. We need an all-hands-on-deck approach. And that means addressing those anti-vaxxers in our communities that are spreading it, i.e. Teddy Riley and Eddie Griffin, which I did tell off, we have to start tackling it. And the administration, I saw that they have a disinformation approach to it, but it was all white people in the room. Those white folks don't understand the way that black people, black Twitter, black Instagram, black Facebook are being targeted, and they don't know the way that it's communicated in a way to appeal to us. And so we really, really need to start talking about this disinformation, because it's killing us. Black people, our life expectancy is going down. Our outcomes are far worse.
Starting point is 01:10:49 We have the highest hospitalization rates, the highest mortality rates. This is not a game, people. And we're losing right now. Faraj, I think what is so sad are these many of these public servants in who are working in health who never get any shine, never get any attention. Folks ignore them. I mean, they're dealing with death threats. They're dealing with people who are yelling public health directors for advocating for public health. It's literally in their title. Yeah, and I think that when we have this conversation about public health, we do have to keep in
Starting point is 01:11:46 mind, Brother Roland, Recy, and Dr. Carr, that public health in this country has failed the American people so many times. And it's not just about Black folks. This is talking about brown folks. We're talking about white people. We're talking about indigenous communities. The public health in this country has become so corporatized to the point that people don't know what to believe. COMMUNITIES, THE PUBLIC HEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME SO CORPORATIZED TO THE POINT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE.
Starting point is 01:12:08 IT'S HARD TO PUT TRUST WHEN PROFIT IS MORE VALUABLE THAN PEOPLE'S LIVES. YOU KNOW, I RAN ACROSS SOME INFORMATION SAYING THAT, AND I THINK IT WAS EITHER MODERNA OR PFIZER, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEIR BOTTOM LINE, JOHNSON & JOHNSON, I'M SORRY, TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEIR BOTTOM LINE WENT UP $2 BILLION. were talking about the fact that their bottom line or Johnson & Johnson, I'm sorry, talking about the fact that their bottom line went up $2 billion. I mean, and then, you know, Pfizer puts out this data stating that, you know, that they're going to, that folks may need, you know, more, another booster shot when it comes to this vaccine. And then when, you know, more another booster shot when it comes to this vaccine. And then when, you know, back on July the 16th, the CDC put it out there. This was from when CNN reported that the U.S. CDC warned people who are immunocompromised, meaning if you have a weak immune system,
Starting point is 01:12:56 that the COVID-19 vaccine may not have been effective for them and encouraged them to take precautions as if they were not vaccinated. So when you have this culture, the culture of mistrust, the culture of disinformation didn't just fall out of a vacuum. It was created because of the messages, but because of the long systemic issues that public health and the healthcare system of this country has. It's unfortunate. It's really unfortunate that we're still having conversations about whether America should have universal healthcare when you have, quote unquote, countries of lesser resources and lesser people having these very simple human privileges, right? These human rights, excuse me. So when we're talking about
Starting point is 01:13:42 that, let's keep those things in mind. But then also, you know, let's talk about the fact that there isn't a national mask mandate. What is stopping this country from saying enough is enough? Let's at least enforce a mask mandate. And people say, oh, well, it's imposing upon my freedom.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I can't breathe. Like, please stop it. The reality is, is that this is an outgrowth of what we're seeing from a failed public health system in America. Well, the point
Starting point is 01:14:14 of what Faraji makes there, Dr. Greer-Carr, with regards to the booster, if people watched this show, they would have known that in May. We had experts from north carolina a and t and this is why we did this we purposely found black experts we purposely found black doctors black scientists black epidemiologists uh and i remember the brother of north carolina ant his name escapes
Starting point is 01:14:46 right now i'm sorry he on this show said there's going to have to be multiple shots he said as the virus mutates he said that the vaccine that is created is created for that particular variant. He said when the vaccine, we said when the, when the, we said when COVID, when it shifts and it mutates, he said you're not going to have the same vaccine effective. No different when we've had the past when there's a new flu variant. And folks say the flu shots from last year are not going to work on the flu shot this year. That's why we did that. Now, to Reese's point, she's absolutely right. We were sitting here yelling and screaming and kicking, telling the White House.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I talked to them directly. Telling the CBC. I talked to them directly. Telling people in these states. I personally talked to them directly telling people in these states. I personally talked to them directly saying, hey, y'all better. Don't just send that money. Don't let these white agencies just send that money to these other folk who just go just BS it. You got to have real conversations with people and folks trust.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And guess what we dealt with trump who was sitting here saying everything was alive throwing casting so much sowing so many seeds of discontent continues to do that then yes roger's right what happened in the past but also what people have to understand is that as khan said if they tell you something different today people like are like, well, you told me this two months ago. Shit changed. That's like somebody, that's like, I mean, that ain't no different than somebody saying, this is your car note in May. Your ass don't pay your card note for three months. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:16:48 That shit don't change. Late penalties, interest. It happens. And that's the thing, man, that is so frustrating. Folks just don't. Greg, you deal with it. Dr. Carr, I don't understand. How am I getting a failing grade?
Starting point is 01:17:05 Because your ass failed the last test. Brother. Well, how can I pass your class? Don't fail the next test. Do some extra damn credit that you might pass the class. Guess what? Shit changes. Shit changes.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Well, as we know as teachers, the first two words, first three words, when you come in December with a day left, talking about what can I do? So it's a little too late, but maybe go back to the first day of class. Read the syllabus. So, you know, ignorance is perhaps the most powerful thing in human social organization, brother. They had, what, 40-some thousand people up in the Mercedes-Benz dome to hear this boy, to watch this boy dance to his own music down there in Atlanta. He walked around. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. An unfinished album. Go ahead. Well, I don't even know what, I know he's living down there in the damn dome.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I mean, so ignorance. At the end of the day, I mean, here we are. Not even 50% of the people in the United States of America, and this is a country where you can get the vaccine, even as we just found out that Joe Biden and them talking about
Starting point is 01:18:21 paying people $100 a piece to take the shot, I would say, shit, I would have waited two months if you're going to start giving out money. But the whole point is that we're not even at 50%. And two-thirds, well, as you say,
Starting point is 01:18:37 two-thirds of Vermont is fully vaccinated, but in Alabama and Mississippi, just over a third of the people are vaccinated. And Kay Ivey down there throwing her own white nationalist kin under the bus, OK, tell them what to do. I mean, after all. And as you roasted her and said, well, you lifted the damn mask mandate and told the restaurant you could let anybody come in, what we have to understand is that the biggest skyrocket are the places where most of our people are. The per capita rate has gone up 77 in Louisiana. Next is the South and the whole 33. Next is the West 13. Next is the Midwest. And then Northeast is the last where we are right now. What does
Starting point is 01:19:17 that tell us? It tells us that misinformation is real. And with all due respect to our brother, Dr. Kahn, let's be clear. When that man snuck up behind you and said that you're un-American, that man was right, because his America is the same America where in Georgia, as we see being reported, as they're going to try to take over Fulton County, because they said, we don't trust the integrity of the election process, the Georgia legislature. By integrity, they mean white power. You understand? So when he says you're not American, a man who has worked in public health in Vietnam, Pakistan, South Africa, Australia, the People's Republic of China, Zimbabwe, Botswana,
Starting point is 01:19:56 and all over the United States, when somebody steps up behind you and says you're not American, what they're saying is when I see somebody with a mask, that's somebody trying to take away my white power. And I will defend white power with my life. I am 150 percent OK with that. You can die to defend white power. But the problem is, my mama's in Texas, see? And even though she's been vaccinated, my niece is just at the age where she can get the shot. What I don't want you to do is die and poison her. Now, you die on your own. I really have no problems with that. I'm OK with that. Not only am I at peace with that, in fact, I'm looking at balancing it out and thinking, you know, this might just help us solve the problem of perhaps whether there'll be United
Starting point is 01:20:44 States in that, because you people have picked your whiteness over your life. The problem comes in when COVID doesn't recognize race. And so we are trapped with you. So now, whether the federal government says you got to have a shot to come back to work, whether private industry and the schools say you got to have a shot to come back to work, whether private industry and the schools say you got to have a shot to come back in, the hammer getting ready to get dropped now. And you're going to have you, in the words of our sister, you about to lose your job. Get this dance. And I'm okay with that. Fire these hillbillies. Or we're going to have to make another set of choices in this country, because the fact of the matter is, this is not going away.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And I should say this about our people, because, Roland, you had your cameras there at Howard. You know, one of the few times I ventured forth to that campus was to watch those Tuskegee folk whose ancestors, who were the brothers who, you know, suffered under syphilis test. I have a real problem with the Ad Council and that whole campaign. The problem I have is that y'all are tone deaf. This is the Tuskegee experiment in this regard. This isn't about the specifics
Starting point is 01:21:56 of whether or not those men were infected with syphilis. They were not by the government. It was left untreated. The problem is we don't trust the government. And if you want to know why we don't trust the government, it's because, as, Recy, as you said, the misinformation campaign is flooding social media, where a lot of our people are. And then you give money and prop up a class, top-down approach to talking to our people, instead of putting the money, as you say, here and places where you can actually have
Starting point is 01:22:24 conversations and work through Dr. Sebi and CMOS and everything else to get to the, well, what about, because we don't trust the government, and you can't use trusting the government as your point of entry to get us to take the shot. But you got to listen to people. But they're not going to do that, because they are so damn arrogant, they think they can pay three or four or five bourgeois Negroes some money, run a campaign, and somehow a light bulb gonna go off. Nah, them people was at the Mercedes Benz
Starting point is 01:22:50 don't watching Kanye. Talk to them. You can talk to them. Hey, Doc, can I say one more thing? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Here's the thing. What we're seeing right now is biological warfare. Okay. And
Starting point is 01:23:07 I'm not exaggerating with that. This disinformation campaign is biological warfare. And those who are buying into it are the foot soldiers of it. They are the ammunition for this. This isn't a government thing. And I completely agree with you, Faraji and Dr. Carr. There is warranted mistrust in the government because we don't have a credible public health approach to it. There are people who don't have paid time off if they get sick. There are people who cannot afford to go to the emergency room. There are people, if they do get the shot and they get sick, they won't have any way of getting treated for that sickness. So there is warranted skepticism and cynicism and hesitancy with that. But what people have
Starting point is 01:23:45 to understand is that we have other countries like Russia who are exploiting this disinformation and our distrust to kill us, literally kill us. This is eugenics. It's amazing to me that the same people that believe that the COVID was hatched in a lab in Wuhan to kill people somehow don't seem to understand that the disinformation is doing exactly what you believe happened in that lab, which didn't happen that way. But that's what y'all believe. The same people that believe that Bill Gates created COVID for population control, that's not government mistrust. Bill Gates ain't no government elected official. The same people that believe that Bill Gates,
Starting point is 01:24:28 because he said something about a pandemic, could wipe out people, which is true. Every hundred years this happens. Y'all believe that Bill Gates created COVID to kill us, but you can't see the way that this disinformation is indoctrinating our communities, is propagandizing
Starting point is 01:24:44 and dissuading us and deterring us from getting a life-saving vaccine. I need y'all paranoia to work at everybody. Be skeptical at everything that you're seeing. Be critical at everything that you're seeing because you're swallowing it wholeheartedly and you're perpetuating it and you're spreading it and it's disturbing
Starting point is 01:25:05 as fuck. It's disturbing as fuck. And we need to have these conversations and I try to have the conversations, but I give up sometimes because I'm like, look, I'm not breaking bread with you, so I don't really give a damn what you're doing. Like Dr. Carr said, if you want to go not take the vaccine and die,
Starting point is 01:25:21 more power to you. It's called natural selection. But where I quibble with it is that children are not protected and they don't have a choice. So once they get it, then y'all can all fuck off. I don't give a damn. But until they're protected, we all have a responsibility to them because they don't have a choice in the matter. And the one other thing I will say is that I saw a poll that said that 75% of those who have not gotten vaccinated will not gotten vaccinated will not get vaccinated. They have no intentions of doing so. So this is going to be an issue that sticks around for a long time, and it's going to be an issue that we have to tackle. And some
Starting point is 01:25:53 people might be reachable with enough conversations with the right people going into these spaces, but we have to recognize the problem before we can actually do something about it. We are not too smart to get duped by this disinformation because it's happening everywhere we look. The Black vaccination rate is lower in, I believe, 40-something states than the White and Asian vaccination. I think all Latinos are right there, neck and neck, with low vaccination rates. So we have to wise up, wake up. Like I said, if you're going to be critical, if you're going to be skeptical, be skeptical of everything, including the information that's trying to kill you.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Yes. Yeah, and look, I tell you right now, look, it is wild and crazy, but I knew Reese was going to at least drop three F-bombs, at least three. That was going to happen. And I've run into two kids who watch our show, a five-year-old girl, Eva. I met a brother today.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I got some video. The parents make them watch. So I did promise one of my followers, she said, Rolla, I give more money, you stop cussing. I said, but you know, c Rolla, I give more money. You stop cussing. I said, but you know, cussing has actually generated more money. But I told her, I said, I'm going to work on it. I said, pray for me. Pray for me.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And then I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting there cussing. Then Henry going to send me a text. He go, hey, man, remember, we own a church parking lot. We at the Muslim Community Center. I was like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Then I just cussed him out in the text. But it's all right. It's all right. So let me do this here. I'm going to go to a break. We come back. We got some more news we got to show you, including a crazy ass white people segment and also the first black woman on the National Labor Relations Board in its 86 year history. We'll tell you who she is. That's next on Rolling Mark Unfiltered.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Broadcasted live from the North Austin Muslim Community Center. that are trying to pass these bills across the country, but here in Texas, to, yes, suppress, to stop, to undermine the vote. The same folk that block you from having living wages are the same folk that wouldn't fix your utilities problem. In this time, when our voting rights are under attack, and economic justice is being denied. We're launching a season of nonviolent, moral, direct action to demand four things by August the 6th,
Starting point is 01:28:33 the 56th anniversary of the signing of the Voting Rights Act. Number one, end the filibuster. Number two, pass all provisions of the For the People Act. Fully restore the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Yes. And number four, raise the federal minimum wage to $15. Pass the For the People Act. That is the last best hope for voting rights, not just in Texas, but Georgia and Florida
Starting point is 01:29:01 and about a dozen other states. Pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill and the For the People Act. Let our people vote. The Latinx community is the rising electorate in Texas, and our representatives are threatened by these shifting demographics. Our pathway to citizenship, to a living wage,
Starting point is 01:29:21 depend on our access to the ballot. This is not just a Black issue. That's right. This is a moral, constitutional, and economic democracy issue. Poverty is reinforced by public policy. And what happens in Texas, as well as in America, we create policies that perpetuate poverty,
Starting point is 01:29:44 and then we criminalize the America, we create policies that perpetuate poverty and then we criminalize the poverty that we create. There's only so much we can take and it's time for us to stand up and speak loudly against what's happening here. I think in Texas that it is time for a Selma-like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we ought to run from Georgetown to Austin. And we ought to come to Austin, but we ain't coming to Austin just for Austin.
Starting point is 01:30:10 We come to Austin to save the Washington, D.C. Which side are you on? And don't tell us you can't do all of this. You must do all of this for the soul and the heart of this democracy. Forward together. Forward democracy. Forward together! Forward together! Forward together! Floyd's death hopefully put another nail
Starting point is 01:30:32 in the coffin of racism. You talk about awakening America, it led to a historic summer of protest. I hope our younger generation don't ever forget that nonviolence is soul force. Right. Hey, yo, peace world. What's going on? It's the love king of R&B, Raheem Devon.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Hey, I'm Cupid. The maker of the Cupid shuffle and the wham dance. What's going on? This is Tobias Trevelyan. And if you're ready, you are listening to and you are watching Roland Martin, Unfiltered. The National Labor Relations Board welcomes Gwen Wilcox. She's the first black woman to serve on the board in 86 years.
Starting point is 01:31:33 She was confirmed by a vote of 52 to 47 in the United States Senate. She will fill a vacant seat with the term expiring in August of 2023. Wilcox has worked on a series of high-profile cases in her decades-long career, including a major recent national labor relations case accusing McDonald's of retaliating against franchise workers who participated in an organizing campaign. President Biden has prioritized appointing members to the National Labor Relations Board who will protect worker organizing, collective bargaining, and workers' rights. So congratulations.
Starting point is 01:32:06 All right, folks, so let's hear in Texas. A viral video of the arrest of an 18-year-old black woman is causing outrage in Forney, Texas, about 210 miles northeast of Austin, where we are now 20 miles east of Dallas. Folks, so here's the deal. The police get a call about someone darting into traffic. The officer, identified as Connor Martin, arrives on the scene, and the key intrigue was who he saw walking down the residential street. Then this happened.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Why do you not have to ever hear her shoot somebody on the plane? You need to back up. You need to back up. happened. No, she's not. Please calm down. Kaya, calm down. Kaya, calm down. Just calm down, okay? She's calm. Just let her get up, please. You don't have to sit on her like that. Kaya, calm down. Kaya, just calm down. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Just calm down. Just breathe, Kaya. Calm down. Just breathe. She's... Guys, I'm in her way. It's 102 degrees out here. I can't breathe.
Starting point is 01:33:24 She cannot breathe. She's spinning her head. I don't fucking care. No, no, no. No, no. We'll turn her over if y'all back up. But what are you going to turn her over for? She has not done anything. She's literally just walking.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Bro. She cannot walk. Shut up. Stop it. Okay, listen, okay. Okay, let us get her restrained and safe. Why does she need a handcuff? She didn't do anything. She's running in front of traffic. She's not going to go anywhere. She cannot breathe.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Roll over. Why are y'all about to handcuff her? Just hold on. She has not done anything. And then you all hung her all up. I need your fucking badge number and your name. Record his fucking shit. Please do.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Calm down, Kaya. Just calm down. Everything's okay. It's easy for her. It might just be the cure. He know that. He didn't give a fuck. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:34:43 If y'all don't want me to... Please put that camera back on up here on your chest. It was never on you in the first place. Why was your camera not on you? We've been to report all of that. All of that? You haven't been to report all of that? Please don't report all of that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 There you go. You're the crime. You're the crime. You're the crime. Where are his shoes? Can you hold this? He didn't have any whenever I found him. There you go. You're the one who's right here. What a shoe. Can you hold this? Give me your hand. I'm not talking to you.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Stop going. Stop that. Jay stop. Jay stop. No sir stop. Please, please, please, please, please. I'm up. He took his damn camera out. Look at you. You're under arrest. You're under arrest. What the fuck? I didn't know it was my phone. You're under arrest. Get out.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I'm not. It's all right, Jay. It's all right. Get off of me. It's all right. It's going to get handled. Boy. It's going to get handled for sure.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Boy. This is crazy, boy. It's going to get handled for sure. Mama. Mama. Stay calm, mama handled for sure. Stay calm, stay calm. All I did was ask if my daughter's gonna breathe. It's all right. I got it all on video. I got it all on video. Please do not put him in the car with her. Please don't.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Don't put either one of them in the car with her. Ma'am, please get back to her. Miss, miss, miss, come back, come back. Come back. Come back. So Trigg was taken to the hospital for a mental evaluation. Her mother, Anthony Gray, was arrested and charged with assault of a public servant and interference with public duties. She has been released on bond. Kauffman County Sheriff's Office is aware of the video and investigating the incident.
Starting point is 01:37:10 That right there, Faraji, is a perfect example of what happens when an officer makes the right call as to how you engage. One, clearly there was a, this is why you need mental health professionals dealing with a lot of these cases. Two, I have never seen a police officer lay his entire body on a woman to restrain her. I have never seen that in my life. Third point, you have three other people there who clearly knew the woman. That's where you as the officer pull them in to assist you in keeping things calm. This woman had stuff foaming out of her mouth. And I remember the case after George Floyd, when police were
Starting point is 01:38:02 detaining someone and he was sort of resisting, and three other black people came along and said, hey, they helped the officer calm the brother down. They talked to the brother to relax. They helped him along. That's what happened. That's where cops have to make better decisions. I'm going to be honest with you, Brother Rowland. I couldn't. It's heartbreaking to watch that video it's absolutely
Starting point is 01:38:31 heartbreaking I've never seen a move like that the man was physically on top of the woman on this young girl me and and i mean if you see bone coming out the mouth and you in a hundred degree weather wouldn't you think maybe i should just kind of uh change my my restraining tactic here i mean you physically on top of the woman you got people around you this is a dumb ass office i i you know and it's like we want to try to politic our way out of certain things we want to try to rationalize our way out of things but this is just poor poor i mean piss poor judgment and this is a terrible call it was a terrible call. And, I mean, then you get what the mother and the family members and the whole thing. I mean, I'm just so sick and tired of simple calls that can be handled.
Starting point is 01:39:35 You and I know that certain things can be handled in one way. It can go left in 30 seconds or less. Yep. Recy? I already said three F words. it can go left in 30 seconds or less. Yep. Recy? Ooh, I already said three F words, so I'm going to try to restrain myself here. But what we saw was sexual assault,
Starting point is 01:39:54 number one. Number two is demonic. Okay? It's savagery. And it's intentional. The point was not to detain her for any kind of threat. The point was to, number one, get his rocks off, like I said, sexual assault, and number two, to dehumanize her. And this is the problem. We can't appeal to white supremacists to see our humanity because they don't see that? Why was that necessary when her, if she was the person that was running through traffic, who gives a damn? That was an F word. Who gives a damn? What difference does that really make?
Starting point is 01:40:32 Does that warrant violating her? Does that warrant assaulting her? Does that warrant brutalizing her in her completely vulnerable, traumatized state, adding to the trauma. If you see a person who is dealing with something, why do you exacerbate that trauma but for the fact that you are demonic, that you get your rocks off of doing that after violating that woman? And then to your point, Roland, clearly these people around the young girl knew her. Clearly, these people around the young girl knew her. Clearly, they were trying to calm her down. And Dr. Carr, I'm sure you'll say this, but you made the point when we had this discussion last year, I believe, that it's unfortunate that we have to essentially be accomplices to what the police are doing when they're already violating your rights. They're already breaking the law. But yet we have to help them, so that they don't further brutalize us. It's disgusting. It's enraging. I hope that this woman and her mother get the legal counsel that they need to
Starting point is 01:41:35 beat these charges, because they never, ever, ever admit they're wrong, or if they do, they quietly drop the charges. And she's in real legal jeopardy now. She's out on bond, which means that there was money involved in the situation, so it's further harm done to this family. And like the mother said, I don't know if you guys heard it, why weren't you recording? And to the Black man that walked up into that situation and helped those devils brutalize these two Black women, shame on you, because we saw on that January 6th
Starting point is 01:42:08 commission with the Capitol Police, it's not the same, but we saw how they testified to how they were attacked with racist abuse more than anything. They were fighting two wars. There's no back the blue when you're Black. And so what he should have done in that moment is back these Black women and de-escalate. And we need people to respect the humanity and the mental health state of people, instead of violating them and taking advantage of them, which is what we saw. JOHN YANG, Former President of the United States of America, That's absolutely right. JOHN YANG, Former President of the United States of America, Greg Carr. GREG CARR, Former President of the United States of America, No, I agree with everything
Starting point is 01:42:40 that's been said. I think this can be reduced to some very simple steps. The police are hunters. That's what they are. So it is now time for everyone who is not police to become the police. So, and I'm sure there are videos out on YouTube and there's things, but these are some very simple steps.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Step number one, when you see something like this start happening, not only begin to film and record, but go live, live stream it if you can. That means setting up a Facebook live or whatever. Live stream it. Live stream it and immediately indicate where you are, what street, what city, what state. This need because, you know, so we don't see like what we saw in Atlanta with those two black cops that kicked that lady in the head the other night. Black or white, if you back the blue, we back the black against you.
Starting point is 01:43:34 You are the police. Now it's time for the people to become the police. It's one thing to record it and then show it. No. Live stream it. Number two, look, Connor. Look, Connor Martin, all of a buck, maybe a buck-oh-five. You couldn't choke the life out
Starting point is 01:43:50 of her because you're the mascot of the damn Kauffman County Sheriff. Your hat's the biggest thing on you. We've seen the pictures, little fella. Little fella! And you're right, Reesey. He's getting his rocks off. Look at him. She can breathe because he's a buck. His damn belt way more than anything, but the old cop his rocks off. Look at him. She can breathe because he's a buck. His damn belt wear molding
Starting point is 01:44:05 anything. But the old cop is trying to save him. Number two, every cop engaged in something like this is no longer whatever their name is. Their name is Derek Chauvin. So propaganda can work. So when you say get off her, Derek Chauvin, get off her, Derek Chauvin, get off her, killer, while you're live streaming, putting your place, your location, your state out there to get this number three. And finally, after you've done that, please be clear
Starting point is 01:44:36 that the next step is to, where is she going? Where are you taking her? And we all meeting up over there. Listen, the only way we're going to stop the police is become the police. There's no reforming the police. They are doing their job. They are hunters.
Starting point is 01:44:53 They are protecting property and the elite. Now we got to become the police. And, you know, Roland, you can have some of those classes, because you done taught me many times, don't film like this, go like this. Well, now, also live stream. Yeah, that's right. yeah you know talking to the police absolutely uh absolutely uh and folk i do want to tell you about this uh the story out of colorado uh where a cop actually is facing charges because of his actions uh this is in aurora colorado
Starting point is 01:45:20 uh folks john harvard is facing attempted first degree assault, second degree assault, oppression, felony menacing, and first degree official misconduct for his role in the brutal arrest of Kyle Vinson. His partner officer Francine Martinez is charged with failing to intervene and report the use of force by a peace officer. Harvard and Martinez were responding to a trespassing complaint when they saw three men sitting on a curb. Officers identified each person had felony warrants. Two of them ran away before Vincent was violently taken into custody. Body cam footage shows Harvard choking Vincent for nearly 40 seconds as blood streams down his face. Vincent was taken to a hospital for his injuries. The cut on his head required stitches. Harvard and Martinez have been released
Starting point is 01:46:05 on bail. Now, if you remember, Aurora is the same city where 23-year-old Elijah McClain was killed after being put in a chokehold by police in 2019. Here's the rest of that video. No, I don't. I don't have to. Stop fighting. Bro, I don't have no warrant. You guys are the wrong guy. I don't have a warrant, bro. Stop fighting. I don't have a warrant. Stop fighting. Help. Help.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Help. I don't have a warrant, bro. Bro, I don't have no fucking warrant, bro. Get on your face. Bro, I don't have a warrant. Get on your face. I don't have a warrant, dude. Get on your face.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Okay, okay. Okay. Get on your face now. Okay, bro. Get on your face! Okay, okay, okay. Get on your face now! Okay, bro! Get on your face! Okay, bro! Okay! Get on your face! You're killing me, bro!
Starting point is 01:46:56 On your face! Get on your face! Roll over on your face! You're killing me! You're killing me! You're killing me you're killing me you're killing me you're killing me on your face i don't have a problem on your face i don't have a warning get over on your face okay dude i've just been on your face i don't have a word bro get on your face i don't have a worry i don't have a word, bro. Get on your face. I don't have a word. I don't have no word. Get on your face.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Oh. Turn over. I can't throw the tail for somebody that's huge. Turn over. No. Folks, that body cam footage goes on for almost another eight minutes. But this is why you've got to change the law. This is why you
Starting point is 01:47:48 have to say that when another officer fails to intervene, they can be charged. I hope each one of these cops is convicted of their heinous actions because that's the sheer stupidity that we see by officers and the man is yelling, I don't have any warrants.
Starting point is 01:48:04 That, folks, is, I'm telling you, this is why you got to change those contracts. This is why these mayors and these city councils should have absolutely zero tolerance when it comes to this. And they should say, if you are an officer and you see another cop doing wrong, your behind is going to be in trouble. If you don't turn your body camera footage on, as I've been saying for a long time, automatic firing. If you lie on a police report, automatic firing. You're not going to change what happens unless you start sending these thugs with badges and guns to prison and until you hit their pocketbooks. And we also have retired LAPD Sergeant Cheryl Dorsey, who has been on our show many times, who said there are no doubt Klansmen who are serving in police departments. And she said it's point blank.
Starting point is 01:48:56 And that's the thing that we just got to just be honest about and deal with. And so we'll be following that story folks to see uh what happens next all right my last story y'all know what time it is on my property. Whoa! Hey! You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable. So let's call her Racist Rachel. Not Karen, Racist Rachel. Rachel decides to, after a black employee at Ross. Let's just say a sister who was there shopping at Ross,
Starting point is 01:50:00 she didn't take too kindly to racist Rachel snapping on the sister. swing you out. I know, girl. I know. I know. You better not fuck with her no more, though. You better not fuck with her no more. Because guess what? I came for you. I put my shit down and I came back here for you. She a player to much. That girl don't bother nobody, bitch. But guess what? I came back here for you. But you know what you didn't do?
Starting point is 01:50:39 Security. I want the police calls right now. I don't give a fuck who you call. I gave you the reason to call the police. You better call the police. I gave you the reason to call the police calls right now. I don't give a fuck who you calling. I get a reason to call the police. You better call the police. I get a reason to call the police, bitch. Now call me by my name. Because you know my name. Girl, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:50:56 And I meant that. I can't even give it to you. Fuck you, racist bitch. That shit gonna stop. That shit gonna stop. You racist bitches bitches sick of you motherfuckers i don't give a fuck who you call you racist bitch nobody did anything with you no you did something to her that's what you did i know Well, Recy, I think she just totally topped you because she threw in seven F-bombs and an MF in that. I mean, and she called her at least the B-word at least half a dozen times.
Starting point is 01:51:42 And so, Recy, she made you look like a church deacon. Oh, no. Did you see my Piers Morgan video? Because I definitely called him. Yes. Well, I'm just saying in that particular. Oh, okay. Yeah, y'all do.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Yeah, y'all. I had three F-bombs today, but my Paris Morgan video was one minute and maybe 30 seconds of fury of F-bombs and B-words. And I'm with the system. You know what? It's time to violate these people.
Starting point is 01:52:17 It's time to get disrespectful because they're too comfortable going after us. They're too comfortable disrespecting us. And then when you talk around and you swing it back on, all of a sudden, oh, I didn't even do nothing. Oh, why are you talking to me like that? I'm violating your ass the same way you try to violate us.
Starting point is 01:52:36 But guess what? You're going to run into the right one. Somebody's going to cut your ass out. And the next step is going to be to lay your ass out on the ground, too. So I'm with the system right there. And that's what I'm about, okay? Because people are getting too damn comfortable disrespecting us because they think, okay, we're going to sit up here. We're going to pull up our camera.
Starting point is 01:52:53 And we don't want nobody to see how we was acting ignorant. Oh, I'll get ignorant. I'll get ratchet. I'll get ghetto. I'll get whatever it is that you want to call me. I'll be a stereotype. But I'm going to get in your ass. And you're going to learn not to keep messing with us.
Starting point is 01:53:06 So I'm all for that energy. I'm all for that energy online. I'm for that energy in person. Anybody that knows me in person knows that's exactly how I get down when it's time to get down. And that white lady, that Karen, she sure was on mute. She was sure keeping it cute. And the funny thing to me about it was
Starting point is 01:53:22 how she said, I didn't even do anything to you. And see, that's where they don't expect us to come in and protect each other. But they don't know that that's what we do. When we see another Black woman that's being abused, and she's in a situation where she's at her job, and she came down, that's where we step in.
Starting point is 01:53:38 And so if that was me, I would have done the exact same thing. Kudos to her. Let's stop being civil. Let's stop being the ones who record every little incident. Cuss them out. Lay them out. It don't have to go viral, but you let that person know not this time.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Ain't no, oh, Twitter do your thing. Identifying them. No. Check them right there on that spot and let them know you ain't going to play me like that. Mm-hmm. All right. So, Recy mentioned her piers morgan video so let me do this here let me give no no no no no no let me give everybody i'm giving y'all 30 seconds if y'all have kids in the room and y'all don't want them to hear this uh i'm giving y'all warning
Starting point is 01:54:21 right now i appreciate y'all who watch the show with your kids. Right now is the HBO Showtime version of Rolling Mark Unfiltered. So I got to do this here. No, no, I can't do this. So I'm giving y'all ample warning. So Piers Morgan has some words for Simone Biles. And let's say Reese was not feeling white supremacist Pierce Morgan and what he had to say. So, if y'all don't like cuss words, mute the show right now because y'all about to hear way more than what you heard at that Ross in Mississippi. Everybody has been warned.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Get just, everybody's been warned. Here comes the wrath of Reesey. Piers Morgan, shut the fuck up. I repeat, shut your raggedy ass, mediocre, shrimp dick, incel, white supremacist, motherfucking blob face jar mayonnaise spoiled in a motherfucking 90 degree weather looking ass up. We are fucking sick of your stupid ass opinions. We don't want to motherfucking hear you, bitch. Keep Simone Biles name out your raggedy motherfucking mouth. I don't know why you're so fucking triggered by black women that are far superior to you, far more accomplished than you. But you need to take that up with your motherfucking therapist and leave your funky ass thoughts off the motherfucking internet, bitch.
Starting point is 01:55:57 You should take some cues from these black women on mental health and go seek motherfucking help, bitch, because clearly you fucking need it. We're tired of you. We don't want to fucking hear you, bitch. Keep your opinions to yourself, bitch. All you fucking do is cloud chase off of more fucking accomplished black woman. And the only motherfuckers that agree with you are racist, sorry, sack of shit, degenerates, just like your punk ass bitch. I know that this isn't going to change your opinion.
Starting point is 01:56:29 But what I do want you to know is on behalf of black America, fuck you, bitch. We don't respect you. We don't want to motherfucking hear about you. And we're going to call your motherfucking ass out because you ain't shit. You ain't never going to be shit. And if nobody told you today, you are a worthless sack of shit. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Period. I, um, I, I, I, I, look at the look on Faraji's face. I, I, I, I, I, I didn't know how to respond, so I had to call somebody. Just go ahead and bring him up, please. Jay Anthony Brown. Jay, make sure you're not.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Jay, go ahead, Jay. Jay, make sure you're not. Jay, go ahead, Jay. Jay, you're on mute. Get off mute, Jay. Jay, you're on mute. Okay, y'all, make sure. Now we can hear you. Guys, turn my audio down. Hello.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Okay. So there you go. J. Anthony Brown. Reese. J. Anthony Brown, take it away. Reese? Can she hear me? I can hear you.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Yeah. Yeah, she can hear you. I can hear you. Yeah, she can hear you. From one cusser to another cusser, you use way too many bitches. Way too many. I mean, I'm ashamed of how many bitches you put in that sentence. You didn't go with dickhead. You didn't go with fish face fucker.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I mean, there's so many, so many ways. And I want you to do your homework on your cousin. OK, because I know you're fired up. But the next time we, you know, bitch should not be used that much. No way. I'm going to allow you to do. I'm going to allow you to do this. I'm going to allow you to do, in a rant like that, I'm going to give you maybe six bitches, okay? Six, seven is your limit, Reesey. After that,
Starting point is 01:59:16 we want to go with dick face, fuck your face, you know, go with the face. Dick face, fuck face. You didn't use way enough ass face. Dick face, fuck face. If you didn't use way enough assholes, I mean way, you were just short. Just short
Starting point is 01:59:32 on your assholes that you could have gone with. Yeah. I got it. Jay, Jay, you did a show, Jay, where you said, you said, but I don't know who this woman is.
Starting point is 01:59:49 I think it was Clay Kane. You're like, I don't know who this woman is. I've heard you on Clay Kane's show. And I don't know. I called Roland. I said, I don't know who this woman is, but I've never heard anybody that knowledgeable that could cuss that much. You know, you are a person of my heart.
Starting point is 02:00:14 I love you. I really do. I never met you in my life, but like I said, from now on, you can't use that many bitches. You just are not allowed. In the annals of passing, you get six to seven bitches, and then we move on, okay? Okay, fine. I will take that under advisement. See, I'm more creative when I talk about women because I don't use the B word for woman.
Starting point is 02:00:54 But for peers, I didn't have to. I wasn't tethered by the B word. But now I know next time. In cursing a man, you can call a man a bitch and then not be offensive. No, no, no. You are absolutely right. No, no, no, you are absolutely right. No, no, don't apologize.
Starting point is 02:01:09 No, but I just thought you were heavy, real heavy on bitch. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah. But I don't have a distinctive way of saying it that people enjoy. But I will call less bitches and more MFers.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I did not use assholes, so I should have used that one. But I did get male faces. Bitch ass, bitch motherfucker, punk bitch. You know, this punk bitch. Dude! Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:41 I need you to remix the video for me. Wait a minute. Let's send it to Pierce Morgan. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:01:57 It's an honor. I'm so honored. That's the best compliment I can get. Well, I've been trying to get Jay on Thursday. He's been real busy the last three weeks, and he texted me. He said, come on now. I said, man, y'all got to get him on.
Starting point is 02:02:12 So, Reese, that was my surprise for you, Reese, having Jay Anthony Brown give you some lessons on cussing. Love you, man. The white box was made for me. All right, Jay. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it was manly. All right, Jay. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:27 All right, Jay. Later, man. Love you, my brother. Greg, go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say, brother, look, you know, everybody out here, y'all know that this is an art. I got a sister, a good friend of mine.
Starting point is 02:02:43 We've been rolling for many years. Makeda Kumasi out there in LA. She's a spoken word artist. And she gets up to perform sometimes. She say, my heart is pumping poetry. What we just heard is poetry. Now, if you're in a speech class at HBCU, if you're a professor, you would look at both
Starting point is 02:03:00 of those demonstrations of eloquence and chart them out. When that sister walked into that Ross, you heard the first thing she said? I know you. Pause right there. Now, that's the first line. So this is not a speech to persuade. This is not, I know you.
Starting point is 02:03:16 And then I came here for you. And I'm like, was that Mississippi or Louisiana? Because she sound like Lil Wayne, baby. I came here for you. And then she keeps going and she said, girl, girl, fuck you. I came to give it to you. Now let's switch to Reesey. You see, in both these examples, what you have is a sexual undertone. They are stripping. In the first case, she's taking away this woman's power and her humanity. In Reesey,
Starting point is 02:03:44 in your case, you are stripping this man of his manhood. Hence, what I think was the appropriate use of the word bitch. And with the inflection, they took our languages, but we kept the tones. So when you say bitch, bitch, in other words, and Roland, you confirmed it because you said, and Faraj, you appreciate this,
Starting point is 02:04:03 Clay Davis. You didn't say Clay Kane because that's how he used shit. In other words, that's the job. Finally, finally, now I can't say MF because I'm thinking, Faraji, you appreciate this, Francis Crest Welsing, where the
Starting point is 02:04:18 origin is. However, when you call somebody a bitch-ass motherfucker, what you're really doing, you are completely removing any ambiguity as to whether or not they're a man. Recy, that was a clinic in destroying any notion of manhood. Pierce, and this is what I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:04:36 all you young people, I'm too old for this, but what I've noticed is, and what I expect is gonna happen, Recy, and with the sister Ross, some of these young people are gonna take Nas's ether and put it under there. So just let, when it goes viral with the ether soundtrack underneath it,
Starting point is 02:04:51 just make sure they break y'all's keepsake practice. I'm thinking that's what they gonna do for, I don't know. Hey y'all, no, I think so too. No, no, we'll talk. Look, I- First thing, Dr. Carr just gave us a clap. First J. Anthony Brampton, Dr. Carr had to break it down like that. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Come on. Only on Rollerball. Nothing to do. Now, look. Now, y'all know. Y'all know. I throw a couple of cuss words on this show, but Henry and Anthony will tell you,
Starting point is 02:05:22 when we in a Rollerball mobile, oh, I will cuss him. Y'all don't understand. There's a rhythm to cussing. Oh, I can testify to that. There's a rhythm. I know I'm a Hall of Fame cusser. Yes, sir. I know.
Starting point is 02:05:48 The late John. I know. I know. Y'all think I'm, don't even get me started. Look, because, ooh, y'all don't let me. Because, see, first of all, when you hit somebody with the right cussing, you got to have, especially if you're a dude, you gotta have a certain level of base.
Starting point is 02:06:08 You gotta have a level of what Dr. Carter said of complete disrespect. Yes, sir. For that person. And then you got to go for the gut. I'm gonna get y'all
Starting point is 02:06:24 one. I'm gonna get y'all one. I'm going to get y'all one. He ain't going to like me telling this story. When we had our TV One show, we went out with TV One show. Harry and I would engage in this thing back and forth where he was like, what? I'm running this.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Harry was like, I'm running this. And I was like, you ain't running a damn thing. So we start going at it. We start going at it. I said, let me tell you something. I said, you know what? I said, pretend this is a piece of chalk.
Starting point is 02:06:54 And I walked over to him, and I did an outline around his shoes. I said, you the man inside the chalk. Outside the chalk, you don't run shit. Outside the chalk, I'm the goddamn man. Now, even he said, Henry said, damn, the chalk, your ass pulled the chalk out on me. I said, sure as hell did, and walked the hell off. Even Henry had to laugh at that one. See, I ain't cussed that as hell did, and walked the hell out. Even Henry had to laugh at that
Starting point is 02:07:26 one. See, I ain't cussed that much. See, that's the other deal. So when you hit them, you can't just you got to add some other stuff to it that just to your point, Doc, you got to ether them. And so every time, so there's those moments
Starting point is 02:07:42 there are those moments when we go at it I'll be like, let me get that damn chalk out. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Let me get you. And see, you got to throw a look. And you got to throw a look in there. See, y'all didn't see the look.
Starting point is 02:07:58 This is the look. You want me to pull that chalk out on your ass? See, I'm just. Why you got to be somebody's parent, bro? Why you got to be somebody's parent, man? That's a parent move right there. Well, actually, no, no, Faraz. That's what they say in Philly. That's what they say.
Starting point is 02:08:13 I sonned you. In other words, I made you my son. When you say that to your kids in Philly, you say, I sonned you. Hey, Dr. Carr, Reesey made me feel like... So I know. So Reesey...
Starting point is 02:08:22 Look, Reesey made me feel like a baby mother. She came across like a black baby mother. Oh, no question. Talking to her, talking to the dude, the father of a dude who is just not there when he needs to be there. Oh, my God. I felt that pain right there. Hey, look, look, look. I told y'all.
Starting point is 02:08:42 You got to fight. I told y'all. I told y'all. You got to fight. I told y'all. I told y'all. Ain't no show like this. Let me go ahead and say this to the North Austin Muslim Community Center. This wasn't a plan to have all this cussing on the show today. I appreciate y'all doing the show from here. But sometimes, but cussing will keep your blood pressure down.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I'm just letting you know. It does. Mine is like mine is 115 over 70. I don't think they mind. I don't think they mind, Ro. I don't think they mind because in the Quran if I'm wrong, Faraj,
Starting point is 02:09:17 in the Quran it says God plans and human beings plan, but Allah is the greatest of planters. So in other words, this is all in divine order, brother. It wasn't going to be, no. It was going to have to be. But you know, Roland, you and Henry are friends. Y'all roll deep.
Starting point is 02:09:33 In the case in Ross, when she said, oh, what she's saying is, knock if you buck. Anybody stand there and take that kind of cussing and don't fight, she said, I know you. And Reesey, Pierce don't want no part of you. You got to fight. When you get cussed at, that's what you say, bro. And that's why Pierce, he was whining
Starting point is 02:09:53 when he got blocked by Naomi. And I was like, yo, punk ass. Actually, I think I tweeted, Pierce Morgan, you pure bitch asses, because you blocked me. So shut the hell up. But that's the whole deal, y'all. He did set his followers on me. I had a thousand
Starting point is 02:10:09 white supremacists in my comment calling me monkey, shenanigans, everything. And you know what? I did some of my best work. I dragged the hell out of them. If you go to my tweets and replies, you will see a master class in triggering white supremacists.
Starting point is 02:10:26 I was on they ass, like white on rice, and so guess what? You're going to have to send two or three more armies for me, bitch, because I don't care, and I'm going to cuss you out. I'm going to cuss out everybody down with you. I made it clear, and I'm not backing down. Everybody who thought they was going to give me the back down,
Starting point is 02:10:42 they got told off just like their boy Piss Morgan did. Woo! I told y'all, y'all. Y'all, y'all. Y'all. I told y'all. Ain't no show.
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