#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Roland On The Road in NC Talking 2024 Elections, VP Harris Wis. Tour, DOJ Tours Greenwood District

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

10.17.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Roland On The Road in NC Talking 2024 Elections, VP Harris Wis. Tour, DOJ Tours Greenwood District LIVE from the Word Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mount.  Here's what's coming Up on Roland Martin Unfiltered streaming live on the Black Star Network. Vice President Kamala Harris is campaigning across Wisconsin, making stops in La Crosse and Green Bay. We'll show you what she had to say in La Crosse and take her live in Green Bay during our second hour.  During a town hall, some Latino voters questioned Trump on some of the lies he's told.  We'll show you how he answered their questions.  The Sarasota Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident of a black teen being followed by some white men while walking in his own neighborhood.  The Justice Department was in Tulsa today to tour the Greenwood district, gathering evidence for their investigation. The lead attorney for the last remaining survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, Damario Solomon-Simmons, will tell us what happened.  Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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tariffs to donald trump who still clearly uh can't understand what they are all about also uh on today's show we'll talk about uh what's happening in this election you got georgia massive numbers in Georgia. Also, New Poland coming out as well, showing a very tight race. Also, New Poland coming out of Ohio as well, folks. It is time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin on the filter. On the Blackstone Network here in North Carolina, let's go.

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It's rolling Roro, yo! It's Rollin' Martin, yeah! Rollin' with Rollin' now! He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best, you know he's Rollin' Martin now! Martin! Martel Folks, we're here at War Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. We are broadcasting live, again, War Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. A crucial battleground state here in the country. There are seven battleground states, and this is certainly one of them.

All the focus is on Wisconsin. Wisconsin, you have, of course, Pennsylvania, you have Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. And so all the attention is on these seven states that will determine the next president of the United States. Early voting began today in North Carolina. And folks at the polls very early this morning, I stopped by three early voting locations and they said folks were lined up. I talked to one woman. She said it was so many people. She said, look, I'll come back this

afternoon because too many folks in line, which is always a good thing. Now, in Georgia, they broke their first day record. Nearly 300,000 folks voted on the first day in Georgia. Black turnout was off the charts, and we're seeing significant turnout in Pennsylvania. All right, then. So y'all want to tell me what to do? Lost feet? Okay, all right. We're back. Good.

All right. As I was saying, they want to firewall North Carolina, some 400,000 there. And so it's all about how do you maximize the early vote. Today, the vice president was in Wisconsin, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, talking to students. She also appeared at a rally with Mark Cuban, who, let's just say, he had a few words to say about Donald Trump and his clear misunderstanding of the power of tariffs. Part of the difference between the way we see our country and the world and the way my opponent sees it is we actually see real people and care

about them and have a sense of understanding about how tough times can be, but how good times can be if we put the work into solving problems instead of trying to run on problems like Donald Trump. And so that's why we will also lower costs on everything from health care to groceries, including taking on corporate price gouging, which I've done before and I will do again. And we will give a middle class tax cut to 100 million Americans, including $6,000 for young parents, parents who are just starting out during the first year of their child's life, knowing the vast majority of our parents have a natural desire to parent their children well,

but not always the resources to do it. And so this is about helping folks out to be able to buy a car seat and a crib just during that most critical phase of their child's development. This is all about dignity. and this is about understanding. And so I share this to say I will always put the middle class and working families first. It's where I come from and I will never forget where I come from. I will never forget where I come from. Now Donald Trump has a different plan. I love you back, by the way. Thank you.

Donald Trump has a different plan. So just Google Project 2025. Now we're at a place of higher learning. So I must say, I can't believe they put that thing in writing. I really can't. They put it in writing. They bound it. Like, they bound it and handed it out. So look, we read it, right? It's a detailed and dangerous blueprint for what he will do if he is elected president. You know, I said many times, you've heard me say, Donald Trump is an unserious man, and the consequences of him ever getting his foot back in the Oval Office are brutally serious, brutally serious. So Donald Trump, right, that's why we're here together, and we're here because we know we've

got work to do still. Donald Trump will give billionaires and corporations massive tax cuts. He will cut Social Security and Medicare. He will get rid of the $35 cap on insulin for seniors. He will make it easier for companies to check this out. He will make it easier for companies to check this out. He will make it easier for companies to deny overtime pay for workers and will impose what I have named a Trump sales tax because essentially he plans on putting a 20% tax, if not higher on everyday basic necessities, which economists have estimated will cost the average American $4,000 more a year.

And on top of all of this, Donald Trump intends to end the Affordable Care Act. And he has no plan to replace it. You guys watch the debate. He has, quote, concepts of a plan. Concepts. Concepts. So here's the thing. Again, it's a serious issue, right? So he's going to threaten the health insurance coverage power to deny people with pre-existing conditions.

You remember what that was? Well, we are not going back. At the same rally, Mark Cuban shared his thoughts about Trump and tariffs. You know, in my career, I've learned a lot about business, including how tariffs work. Now, let me just ask you a question. Do you all know anybody who doesn't know how tariffs work? All right, I'll give you a hint. That other guy.

Now he has this crazy, crazy, crazy notion that putting a tariff of 60% on every single product imported from China is a good idea. Let me just tell you. This man has so little understanding of tariffs, he thinks that China pays for them. This is the same guy who also thought that Mexico would pay for that wall? No. Hell no.

No, you said it wrong. Hell no. Hell no. That's what I'm talking about. You know, we all know that across-the-board tariffs are a tax on everybody. All the major economists have said so. Kamala has talked about it over and over again. I'm Clayton English.

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As you all know, I sit at point blank. That's the other communications arm of the Republican National Committee. And so things got a little contentious between the VP and Brett Baier. Here are some of that conversation. So looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate Remain in Mexico at the beginning of your administration? At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the

oath, the first bill that we offered Congress before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation Reduction Act, before the Chips and Science Act, before the bipartisan Safe Communities Act.

The first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system. Yes, ma'am. It was called the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021.

Exactly. It was essentially a pathway to citizenship. May I finish responding, please? You have to let me finish. You had the white house and the house and the senate. I'm in the middle of

responding to the point you're raising. And I'd like to finish. Yes, ma'am. We recognized from day one that to the point of this being your first question, it is a priority for us as a nation and for the American people.

And our focus has been on fixing a problem. And from day one, then, we have done a number of things, including to address our asylum system and put more resources, getting more judges, what we needed to do to tighten up penalties and increase penalties for illegal crossings, what we needed to do to deal with points of entry between border entry points. That's the work we did. And we worked on supporting what was a bipartisan effort, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Congress, to actually strengthen the

border. That border bill would have put 1,500 more border agents at the border, which is why I believe the Border Patrol agents supported the bill. It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States, which is a scourge affecting people to do this, if we had a bill that would have supported the bill, it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States,

which is a scourge affecting people of every background, every geographic location in our country, killing people. It would have allowed us to put more resources into prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, which I have done

as the attorney general, former attorney general of a border state. Madam vice president, guns and human beings. And Donald Trump, but let me just finish. Six Democrats voted against that bill. And Donald Trump learned about that bill and told them to kill it because he preferred to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And in this election, this is rightly a discussion that the American people want to have. And what they want are solutions. And they want a president of the United States who's not playing political games with the issue. want to have. And what they want are solutions, and they want a president of the United States who's not playing political games with the issue,

but actually is focused on the issue. Now, of course, Trump made this comment about enemies within. Bayer brought that up. Let's just say the VP didn't mince any words when he did. Looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate Remain in Mexico at the beginning of your administration? At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress.

So I need to cue up the next clip. You got it? You got it? You need a second? And so this is one where he's been talking about the rallies, the in and within, criticizing the left and Democrats. Then, of course, he was on the Fox news for a so-called women's town hall was actually packed with republican supporters uh... and so those no transparency there

of course harris falkner said nothing about that uh... in terms of uh... who was actually in the rules of what they were real uh... town hall of of both asking questions really uh... republican of luncheon. All right. Are we ready for the clip? Yep. We asked that question to the former president today. Harris Faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded. I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening. I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing the threatening. They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the greatest. No, it's true.

We think of it is called weaponization of government. It's a terrible thing. So, but I'm sorry. And with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the American people. That's not what you just showed. He was asked about that specific. No, no, no, that's not what you just showed in all fairness and respect to you. No, no, no, I'm telling you that was the question that we asked him. He didn't show that and here's the bottom line.

He has repeated it many times and you and I both know that. And you and I both know that he has talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy. And in a democracy, the president of the United States in the United States of America should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for doing it. And this is what is at stake, which is why you have someone like the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying what Mark Milley has said about Donald Trump being a threat to the United States of America.

Well, they didn't like that answer. Let's bring in our panel. Dr. Nola Haynes, of course, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. Dr. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University. Also, Laura Victoria Burke, Black Press USA. Nola, I'll start with you. That interview got 8.1 million viewers on Fox, combined with a replay of 9.5 million, the largest that show has gotten since 2020. And a little feisty there. Of course, you hear all these people sitting here talking about, well,

how she went on there. But you will never see Donald Trump go on MSNBC and take any questions, will you? No, never at all. No, never at all. Viceness is very different from being combative, from being insulting. And, you know, the vice president, she did what she had to do, because if she didn't, that would have been that entire interview would have been a gotcha interview. It would not have been facts based, just like the clip that he showed that had nothing to do with his comments about imprisoning Americans simply because they disagree with him. And for her to stand there, look, that man dead in his face, like with with the stairs, like what you're not about to do is play in my face. And so she definitely showed all of those people who were watching it, what many of us already knew, that she is no joke, she is not one to be played with, and she can follow it up with substance. And that's what that Fox interview was about. And that's what a lot of Americans saw. Lauren, again, it was a 26-minute interview. And Bayer, of course, everybody lauded him,

saying, oh, he's a journalist. But let's be real clear. The Fox News is a communications arm of the Republican Party. And of course, they paid a $787.5 million settlement advancing Donald Trump's lies, still involved in the Smartmatic lawsuit. I wouldn't have given the Fox News any time of day. Yeah, well, I mean, we are at a point with journalism where journalism and politics has intersected. And some of these so-called journalistic platforms are really political arms masquerading as journalistic platforms. And because the First Amendment really allows journalists really to do almost anything in terms of editorial content,

Fox News has never checked on what they do. So what we had there was Brett Baier with his narrative agenda that by some coincidence matches exactly what the Republican Party and Donald Trump has been saying about immigration and everything else, with all these facts, not in evidence narratives about people who've been murdered by people who have immigrated to this country and then blaming whoever is in office at the time for that, if that person is a Democrat. Then Brett Baier, of course, talking over the vice president when she's trying to make her points during the interview. So what we really had was Brett Baier interviewing himself, putting the typical Republican narrative in place during the interview, and, of course, talking over the vice president when she's trying

to answer a question. You know, understanding the fact that, of course, the vice president is trying to run out the clock, which all politicians do during these things. You're trying to run out the clock as much as you can during an interview, particularly if it's 30 minutes. But still, even with that, that was an unusual number, an unusual amount of interruption by Brett Baier, particularly when a point is being made that that Fox News audience is not used to hearing. They do it all the time. They do it around the clock. And it is a really good example of how journalism has become extremely, extremely political. Greg Carr, first of all, you look at how folks view this. Of course, you had folks on the right saying, oh, my God, she's awful. She didn't answer any questions. Her supporters said how

she actually crushed it. Your assessment of what we saw with this interview. Well, Roland, we know that there's nothing to lose. She has nothing to lose by going to Fox. I think, you know, I'm not a biblical scholar. Is it Gideon that talked about going into the enemy's tent and turning over the tables. So anyone who watches Fox, the biggest legacy media news station there is around, is probably going not going to change their mind. Maybe some people, maybe some maybe someone else, maybe someone. But the key there is, you know, she's in full spectrum kind of everywhere at once mode now. I mean, she sat with you, finally. And like Lauren said, these things have blended so much that she's in the shade room.

She's in the breakfast club. She's with Howard Stern. Call me daddy. She's everywhere. You can't beat Trump in terms of the wall-to-wall exposure because he's dropped all pretenses. And when you commingle that with his diminished mental capacity, whether he's swaying to the tunes of everything from Dixie to whatever else they can throw on to opera, standing next to the dog killer, Kristi Noem, or whether he's just blurting out his absurdities, he's

going to get coverage everywhere. But what she seems to have done now is basically say, I'm here. What you going to do? It does communicate strength. Now, as you opened the early voting in Georgia, you know, over the 300,000 mark, two days in a row, over 600,000, nearly 700,000 early votes already cast in Pennsylvania, sitting there in North Carolina. And always shout out to Rocky Mountain, the home of Buck Leonard and Belonious Monk and all those heroes down there, we know that now the key is to treat every day

between now and November 5th as election day. Take November the 5th out of play, if we can, by early voting. So I think that interview where she punched Brett Baer in the face and even Brit Hume had to admit, well, she she scored some points. Yeah. Brett Baer last night played the stand in for Donald Trump and slapping him around is as close as she'll get to slapping around a coward who is ducking her. And so I think what she's doing now, even as she comes here this weekend for Howard's homecoming on her HBCU tour before she decamps later in the day. I think Saturday is the day the kids are saying she'll be here to go to more battleground states. She is now, looks like she's treating every day between now and November the 5th as a get out the vote opportunity and going as full spectrum as

she can in mass media. And hell, that seems to me to be a pretty good strategy. All right, folks, we're going to go to break. We come back. We're going to chat with our faith panel about what's happening here in North Carolina. Again, a crucial battleground state. We're broadcasting live here at Word Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. We'll be right back on Rolling Bucket Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Welcome to the polls all day. Thank you. folks excited? Excited. I was going to come out here and come out for Don. Come out for who? Don.

Don, oh, Representative Don Davis. Don Davis. I got you. What about Vice President Harris? Yeah, a lot of them coming there. Okay. All right. You been seeing a lot of brothers out here? A lot of them come out here. That's what we want to hear. Yeah. That's called good news. People coming everywhere. All right. See, they're coming out in there. Okay. It's called good news. People coming everywhere. All right. See, they're coming out in there. Okay, that's a good thing. Right. Came here this morning, saw the whole line.

Huh? Came here this morning, saw the whole line. Okay. Lying about the door, up to the wall, around there. They're coming all around everywhere. All right. All around everywhere. Parking lot four, still have a guard around there.

That sounds like good news. Good news. I appreciate it. All right. All righty. The overturning of Roe almost killed me. I had a blood clot in my uterus that caused my labor to have to be induced because of the overturn of Roe v. Wade. I'm Clayton English.

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That they would be prosecuted for that And that's appalling Donald Trump says that women should be punished Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment For the woman? Yeah punished. Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment. For the woman? Yeah. I believe that women should have reproductive freedom to make the choices about their own bodies. Four more years of Donald Trump means that women's rights will continue to be taken away one by one by one by one. This has to stop because women are dying. I'm Kamala Harris

and I approve this message. He told us who he was. Should abortion be punished? There has to be some form of punishment. Then he showed us. For 54 years, they were trying to get Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it, and I'm proud to have done it. Now Donald Trump wants to go further with plans to restrict birth control,

ban abortion nationwide, even monitor women's pregnancies. We know who Donald Trump is. He'll take control. We'll pay the price. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. In 2016, Donald Trump said he would choose only the best people to work in his White House. Now those people have a warning for America. Trump is not fit to be president again. Here's his vice president. Anyone who puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year.

His defense secretary. Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again? No. I mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk. His national security advisor. Donald Trump will cause a lot of damage. The only thing he cares about is Donald Trump. And the nation's highest-ranking military officer. We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator.

And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Take it from the people who knew him best. Donald Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy. We can't let him lead our country again. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. Hello, I'm Jameah Pugh. I am from Coatesville, Pennsylvania, just an hour right outside of Philadelphia. My name is Jasmine Pugh.

I'm also from Coatesville, Pennsylvania. You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Stay right here. We're going to the bump. Supposed to do. Okay. That's right. Talk about why that matters. Because our democracy is on the line. And we as black people, we got to be up and in forefront for the woman.

Madam Vice President Kamala Harris. How about you? Same. What do you say to a brother out there who's thinking about sitting on the couch and not voting in this election? Come out here and vote. Please. She keep it real simple. All right.

I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, y'all. Thanks a lot, y'all. I think he used like five words. We're back here. We're at Tabernacle Church in Rocky Mountains of North Carolina.

Glad to be here, folks. Of course, crucial state is going to be right now here. Let's just talk about what's happening here because, again,

it really is a crucial state when it comes to electoral college. Joining us right now, to my immediate left, James Gallagher, Senior Pastor of Warwick Tabernacle Church, former state representative, faith leader here in North Carolina, and also Bishop Shelton Daniel, President of the Eastern North Carolina Ministerial Alliance, representing some 125 churches. Gentlemen, how are you doing? Doing good. Well, sir, hope you are. Welcome.

Indeed, indeed. So let's talk about what you're seeing and hearing. Early voting began today. What has been the buildup? Were folks prepared to really go out and really drive a turnout in eastern North Carolina? Because so much attention has been focused on the western part of the state, but not really the eastern part, and there are significant black counties and lots of votes in this part of the state. There's no question.

I mean, we take Rocky Mountain, go 95 east, the black Democratic vote is equivalent to Durham, North Carolina. So it is significant. And part of our objective here is to get as many people out early, early, so they then become deputized to get into their communities and really start working those low-performing black precincts. And so the turnout we're seeing, we expect it. And I think there's an energy level that's going to continue. And I'm going to predict, Roland, that the White House is going to get one because of North Carolina, and North Carolina is going to get one because of Eastern North Carolina.

So when you look at the map, North Carolina has 16 electoral college votes. You have Wisconsin, 10. You have Michigan, 15. Pennsylvania has 19. So the reality is one of those could be lost and still win North Carolina and still get to 270 votes. Biden lost his state by 2.5 points in 2020. Obama won about 14,100 votes. You talked about those low turnout areas.

So what is the strategy to target those places? Because the votes are there. The numbers are there if only we actually use our power. One of the things that we're finding, really, is that's critical in our area, that we are missing some of that vote. So we are tagging each one of our areas. We have 125 pastors that are African-American pastors. We're tagging those, um, those groups of people. It's, I believe that, see, you can't get into the African American community without the African American pastor. And so we are, we are tagging every pastor. We are involving every pastor in

the process by saying, Hey, uh, we use it in church. Each one reach one. We get you, you get your group of people, and then we can get the vote out. We truly believe that the White House comes through the east. We just believe that if we can get our folk, Halifax, especially Halifax-Edgecombe counties, if we can get those folk out to vote, we believe we can help win the White House. But it is it data-driven because I think what often happens is talk about voting folks speaking general terms but not actually

driving data in terms of looking at those vote total studying 2022 midterm elections studying 2020 presidential election and seeing how many folks actually voted in those precincts, how many people actually were registered. So how are you using the data to help those preachers understand where to go and who to reach? Yeah, that's a great question. So let me just say, Bishop, so it is very much data driven. And so what we have done is we've identified about 30 counties. Within those 30 counties, we've identified the lowest turnout, predominantly black precincts. We've then married those precincts with the black churches that exist within those precincts.

And so we're doing micro-targeting and we're doing what I'm calling like a modified deep campus because a lot of these voters, they're on the fringes. You know, a lot of times people say, you know, there's some misogyny here. Black men don't want to vote for Kamala. The issue here is only 22% of black men are voting on a regular on these elections anyway. The only way we get to them is with a deeper canvas. You just can't knock the door and say, yo, bro, come on out to work. Come on out to vote. So we're doing a deeper canvas with those churches within those precincts.

We got Black Church Pack, three national organizations to help fund the work. So we're actually putting money in the street, in those communities, to push that vote out. And the data is there. You're talking about 30,000 votes with just a 20% increase. So we can win the state literally with the strategy. That's what I was going to give you. Because we found in the last few elections, not presidential elections, but municipal elections, that folks lost by hundreds of voting that we could have won in just one.

Absolutely. Just about 401 votes. Absolutely. 401, that's who I was speaking of, that we could have won that election with 400 more votes. So we know that right in just this vicinity, we can dig up that amount with the strategies that we have with the African-American pastors. We lost who I believe is the best district attorney

in our state, Robert Evans, the last election. And he lost by less than a vote per precinct. Wow. Just a vote. With only a 44% voter turnout in a large black democratic community, which is Edgecombe County. So we know the numbers are there. It's just a matter of the one asset that exists in every one of those low performing black precincts is the black church. Well, this is, which is why one of the things I keep saying all across the

country, uh, is that part of the reason, uh, we're not winning is we're not actually voting at our capacity. And really the numbers should be 70 percent of the capacity. If everyone else is voting, as we know how the numbers go, if black folks are voting at 70 percent of all eligible voters, we literally sweep elections, local elections, state elections, I mean, statewide offices. But again, it's really hitting that particular number. And unfortunately, in many of our communities, we're not driving the data. Again, we just want to have these general conversations, general get-out-to-vote efforts,

as opposed to saying, no, listen, I don't need this group. You've got the Biden, or Prince, or Mason, or others. I don't need you group. You've got Divine Nine or Prince automation or others. And I meet you trying to go everywhere. Just focus on these three or four areas and then take, push that number and pick up three, four, five, six, 700 votes. And you replicate that. Yeah. All of a sudden you get to that 30,000 or even more. And, and, and that's exactly, I think you, you just hit it spot on because what we have found in the black church, because I actually lead the black church work for the entire state for Kamala Harris's campaign. And what I can tell you, what we found is that we had to modify what we have done historically.

We've been doing I mean, souls of the polls is a construct of the black church. Right. But it hasn't been modified in 30 years. Right. And so what I tried to explain to the campaign and hopefully successfully is if I do a souls to the polls and Bishop does souls to the polls, we are not generating another extra vote by doing that. The people who worship with me, we going to vote. Right. Right. And so the issue becomes, how do you modify that souls to the polls where you say to the congregation, we're going to get to the polls and then you're going to your subdivision knocking doors you're going to the people you work with you're going to the people that live above you and beneath you in the apartment complex and you're responsible for getting that vote turned out that's what the difference is going to be and with with the alliance we're taking that same approach roland and we are not only pastor gilliot but to each if you just look at eastern North Carolina, let's just talk Rocky Mountain. There are almost 375 churches right in Rocky Mountain.

But yet we don't have the voter turnout that we should. So what we are trying to do in this election, right here in Rocky Mountain. How many? That's right. So that's right in Rocky Mountain. He said 55,000 people, 375 churches. 375 churches. Y'all got to realize, I'm from Houston.

We got 20,000 at our church. So that's minus 374. I got you. Go ahead. And so when you look at that alone, for Robert to lose, for Sherry to lose, that's a tragedy when we could have won it right here. So what we're doing is we're taking Pastor Gale's model and we are folding it out into not only just the 375 churches in Rocky Mountain, but this covers Wilson and Nash and Edgecombe and Halifax and Bertie and other counties that we're trying to poke the fold this time and we believe that we can win it by doing that.

But Roland, there is an elephant in the room. Elephant in the room is that the black church is different. And so, you know, I grew up in an era watching Leon Sullivan and Zion Baptist and, you know, various ministers going to Congress and taking over United New College Fund and all that. We live in a church. G.K. Buttefield sent me a text today of a white church in Phoenix, Arizona, who said, if you read the Bible and if you pray and if you claim yourself a Christian, you can't be if you vote for Kamala Harris. And then their L.E.D. wall had Bibles in balance with a bunch of flags. Here's my point. My point is that our white counterparts are not afraid to address political things in their pulpit. We are the ones that have been shirking back. And so black pastors need to press the issue of voting, bringing in candidates, challenging

people. We got to take this thing all the way up. And we've kind of shirked back over the years. And so part of this is really driving home the point of every black church and every black, and not just black pastors. I'm talking imams or whoever your faith system is. We have to make sure that we're engaging people politically. We have that audience. Now we have to leverage them for more than coming to jesus i tell

folk i'm excited that you're going to heaven but until you get there i want you stuck in hell right and the way we prevent that is by making sure we get to the polls and turn some stuff around well i think that um i think part of it has been because you've had folks who are you know scared to death of losing their 501c3 status but the law is clear it says you can't endorse a candidate it you can talk about issues you can literally say this is where this person stands on these issues this is where this person stands on these issues and go from there uh and so i think that i I think that's been one of the big problems for so many church leaders. But the same thing for many black organizations. When I was at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, ALC,

I said to the leadership of Prince Hall Mason, I was like, where y'all at? Because I've been saying the problem that I have for many of our black institutions, we have all of this capacity. We have international organizations that are national, that are regional, that are state. With D9, they are grad chapters, undergrad chapters. We've got programming going all the way down to elementary school. I said, but so much of the focus is actually on internal, not external. I said, if you actually go to a lot of communities and the folk walk in their colors, there are black

folks who have no idea if they see Peaky Green, who those folks are. They see black and gold or purple and gold or red and white or crimson and green. They have no idea. I said, that's a problem because folks should be able to know exactly who we are based upon our work. And that's the thing, how we have to get all of this organizational capacity to operate differently than how we've been doing over the last 34 years. One of the things that we have found is a struggle, even in this campaign, Roland,

is getting those from the outside to understand how the African American church operates. And it is... You say those from the outside who? Those the african-american church operates and it is we say those from the outside who those that who don't understand that the the african-american church is pastor driven yeah but but who's who's on the outside well if you're talking about yeah like the folks that's working the campaigns but see here's the here's the thing, though. They don't grasp that. You can't get into Rocky Mount, North Carolina, faith-based community without coming through James Gillian. And so that's being missed.

But I actually want us to reverse that. Because what I'm seeing, part of the reason why I believe that when you look at our numbers nationally, is that we have allowed voting to become candidate-driven, party-driven, as opposed to us driven. So if we establish what our agenda is, then all of a sudden we're actually driving that. That's why we had the women, black men call. So you had, so the day Biden drives out, the women, black women call happens every Sunday. So they had 44,000 on that call on Sunday. We had 55,000 on the women with black men call the next day. We raised a million five. We purposely kept half a million dollars. And that was one very high profile person came to me.

The sister came to me and she said, well, you know, a lot of folk with the finance committee were upset that y'all were the only group and all the groups that had these calls that kept some of the money i was like i know it was my idea and i said we're gonna do it again uh and i said so let me explain to you why we did that because i have been saying uh and i've said i'm tired of us raising money sending it to campaigns and then begging for the money to come back into our community. I said, so so we raised a million five. A million went to the campaign, but five hundred thousand was retained by us. And we distributed that to black male organizations that were doing on the ground efforts. There were a hundred. There were one hundred were 146 groups that applied for the grants

so that shows you the need was out there and a brother who actually uh he texted me today a pastor texted me today uh and he wanted to send 500 to the president the vice president's campaign on behalf of the brothers i actually said no send the Black Voters Matter because, again, if we are focused on our ground game, regardless of the election, it doesn't matter who the candidate is. Which then means that we have to be of a happening is we expend a massive amount of energy organizing and mobilize for voting. But the moment the election is over, it all dissipates when that has to be 365 seven, because whatever there's some kind of election next year. Correct. Municipal. And there's going to be an election the year after that. And so I'm just not interested in having to restart stuff, keep those things in place, fund those things in place. And then when the candidate comes, say, we already have an infrastructure.

Now, where are you staying on our issues? You are spot on. Spot on. And so I'll say two things. Part of what excites me about the work is exactly that. on our issues. You are spot on. Spot on. So I'll say two things. Part of what excites me about the work is exactly that. Because what happens is the work is funded by a coordinated campaign.

They're very, to your point, candidate-driven. And it's over with. Candidate-driven. I ain't got a problem saying it. Mostly white Democratic strategists who don't know black people. To your point, don't know this particular pastor. They don't they ain't got no clue about black on media. And so they operate from a by TV, by radio, don't really focus on ground. And then all of a sudden, then with the numbers of the in trouble by the second week of October, then they want to flood black communities. Like, say y'all late.

And that's really how this thing works. And so my whole deal is, like, no, we can't wait on them because whoever wins or loses impacts us. So I'm just not interested in waiting on a candidate. That's why my whole deal is like, no, when they come, it's like, no, we're good. We've already mobilized. We've organized. Now what y'all want to do, can you supplement? And when you come in, you're not now telling us how to actually do this.

And I mean, just full transparency, that's part of why the work we're doing is beginning to work. But we spent the first several months of the work wrestling the work away from politicians to say to them we know the black church better than you do so you do what you do let us do what we do but I thought you know the area well because also what people don't realize most the average person doesn't realize the way these campaigns work they will bring in people to states who ain't even from the state. So they'll bring in, I mean, you have statewide campaign managers from other states, especially U.S. Senate races, because the Republican or the Democratic Senate campaign committee, they have these strategies, and you're like, do you even know this place?

So then they hire staff, they don't know the media, they don't know the key voices in a community. And so all of a sudden, they come in and be like, why y'all call them? Because they think, well, so-and-so has a large church. Yeah, but don't nobody know him. And so that's the whole piece, I think, a part of the deal. So my deal is that we do it on the show constantly, trying to get our people to understand, no, no, no, no. We take ownership of what's ours. If the black community is ours, we run this, we control this. We're going to tell you how this goes. And we're able to say, and then it's two things. I can push the button and deliver,

or I can not push the button and you guaranteed to lose. Right. So, but I do think, but I do want to talk about the gap that I think exists because of our Trinity being HBCUs, Divine Nine and the Black Church. We kind of have become our own unique clique. And so we're not good. It's almost like a person gets saved, but they've been saved for 25 years. They don't hardly even run with nobody unsaved anymore. So tell them go out there find somebody to say they too they're too detached right so our divine now's hbcu's black churches we've become very detached from people within our community that are not black church divine now or hbcu and so we're going to have to do a better job of digging deeper into those communities and that's relational that's not transactional right so you can't pull that off in six weeks eight weeks ten weeks prior to the election to your

point of why we need a robust long-term strategy well it's good and that's what was missing here in in the east is and and that's what i was talking about them not being able to get to our folks without getting through us. That's what was missing. We waited until the last couple of weeks, possibly, that we finally started to get the information and the resources to get the things done that we need. And so what Pastor Gale and I are working on is a way that come December, November, when this is over, it doesn't end for us. It starts all over, and we're getting ready for the next cycle so we can know how to push the right buttons to get our folks together.

Right, but see right there, though, that's why I'll freeze it. There is no next cycle. That's my whole point. We actually can't think cycles. I think what we have to do is we have to actually think days. So perfect examples. This is sort of how, so let me do this here. I'm going to go to a quick break. Panel, y'all get ready for your questions the next break. I'm going to go to a quick break and we're going to come back and pick up on this. Because, I mean, we talk about this a whole lot on this show because I'm trying to get our folks nationally to think completely different in terms of how we approach community. I'm Clayton English.

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So explain to folks who are watching why it was so important for you to vote early. I want to get my vote in. I mean, early, the better. Yes. How about you? President, I want the best person for the presidency. And who's that? Kamala Harris. How about you? President Best person for the presidency Who's that? Kamala Harris

That's the person Alright, I appreciate it Y'all handle it, thanks a lot Alright, folks, welcome back to Rocky Mountain, North Carolina The point I was making before we went to the break again, in terms of when I talk about All right, folks, welcome back to Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. We're at the Baptist Church. The point I was making before we went to the break, again, in terms of when I talk about our infrastructure and how there's no cycle.

So you have a gubernatorial race, okay? The presidential race, you have other statewide races. So let's say, and based upon the polling data, let's say Stein wins. Okay, what then is the black Eastern North Carolina agenda? So election November 5th, fine, we either party or cry on November 6th. And then we back in planning November 7th. So between November 7th and the inauguration, then we should be meeting saying for the gubernatorial race, what's the black agenda for the governor? And then what's the black agenda for the president?

So when the inauguration happens, all of a sudden, then after all the party and the boss, they're presented with a plan. What often happens is we just dissipate after the election, go away and then go, oh oh my goodness, what's our agenda? And so that's what I mean, not even thinking from a cycle standpoint, meaning it's just constant and ongoing. Yesterday was the 29th anniversary of the Million Man March. And what happened? You had all these Million Man March organizing committees and all of this energy, all this excitement, a million people show up almost 30 years ago, 400,000 show up for the 10th anniversary, 200,000 show up for the 10th anniversary. 200,000 show up for

the 20th anniversary. So that's 1.6 million folk combined. What actually still exists from all of that gathering? And that's my point. I'm not interested in continuing having gatherings with no results that actually last. And I think, I mean, you're spot on. I mean, we have to have clear black political agenda. And it's more than, you know, it's what are we, what happens in our community for delivering this vote and getting this person elected? And so I do think you're right.

That has to be a part of the step, not just getting people over the finish line, but okay, what's going to happen for our community. So I think you're spot on. Absolutely. So you've got to jump out and go on a national clergy call, right? Okay. So you can go ahead and bounce. All right. We got you. You can stay Bishop. We're going to take questions because he was right. I had a call at seven. See, I told him I'm going to get you for your call at 7 o'clock. See, I got the clock. I'm good. Questions from our panel for Bishop.

I'll start with you, Laura Burke. Have we heard anything about the turnout in North Carolina on the first day? Are there any records being set, like in Georgia? I haven't seen the numbers as of yet. We were planning for this tonight, so we'll know in just a little while what those numbers were. We pushed very hard in the east to make sure that our folks got out on the very first day.

And so we hope we'll have numbers in just a few hours of what the date. I don't know if anyone has those numbers already. Greg. Thank you, Bishop. Earlier, Pastor Gaglia brought up an observation about these white Christian nationalists. In 1829, David Walker would say they are not in fact Christians, but the devil. That having been said,

that wall that is far too often erected that separates church from state in Black religious communities, how do you envision us, for lack of a better term, weaponizing Christianity so that we don't shy away from the commingling of our politics and our faith. And I don't mean in a way to say to get out the vote. No, I mean in a similar kind of aggressive way that these white Christian nationalists have moved forward with the flaming cross and the sword to say we got to stamp out these black people because they stand in the way of our vision of a Christian America. How do we counterbalance that and maybe get our people up and on the horse?

What an amazing insight. It is what we are seeing with this whole movement of folks declaring Christianity, but it's really not Christianity. They are claiming, as Donald Trump stands around with his Bible upside down, they are claiming to love Christ, but it is impossible to love Christ and offer some of the packages and things that Donald Trump is offering as we move forward. That's why democracy is on trial, because we have to make sure that someone who has no real connection with our Christ does not end up in office because it's going to affect us. So we have to make sure that our people are clear that it's really not Christianity. Nola. Thank you so much for your very wise comments.

So excitedly, I will be in North Carolina canvassing with the campaign next weekend. I'm very excited to do that. And if anyone sees me out there, please say hello. I'm very excited to come and join that particular battle. But my question is this, Pastor Gilead had mentioned something very important to me. I do not fit within a Trinity. And there are many people that I know that do not fit within the Trinity. As a black Catholic, I'm very curious, what would be an inclusive approach? What would that look like with black Protestants, black Catholics, black Muslims, maybe Sikhs that identify or just other different religious groups, like what could that look like going forward? As he talked about this kind of reshaping of the souls to the polls that hasn't, you know, been revamped in 30 years. What could that inclusive vision look like? Because I think it's it's needed. Well, Bishop, I grew up in a black Catholic church, and we were black first. So it wasn't that hard for us to align with Baptist churches and others because we were black. And I think that's the key, Roland, is that the problems that we encounter are so different than others.

So we have a tendency to just bind together. What it looks like is exactly what we are trying to put together now. This whole alliance piece is going to reach outside of just the Christian church. There are some other of our pastors and friends that are in the room, and we're looking to reach across the aisles and say, come November 6th, we've got work that has to be done. And it doesn't matter what denomination or cultural background you're with, we've got to figure out how do we not just get to November 6th, and that's the end. Right. There's just so much work that we've got to do beyond November 5th. Yeah, because, again, election is the beginning.

As I say, the election is the end of one process. It's the beginning of another process. See, the whole issue, even with Mark didn't it didn't just begin recently oh no he did crazy right so yeah yeah so so mark been crazy and and for us he was new crazy for us to defeat that roland we gotta we've gotta begin immediately because the someone another Mark Robinson is going to pop up out of the woodwork who is claiming that he loves our Jesus, but he really doesn't. So we've got to fight. Mark Robinson is a new kind of crazy. And there are some of, and we have to be careful.

Do I need to say all that, some of our folk are backing that based on misinformation. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. But you've always had that. But also, I think one of the also issues is that we sometimes are afraid to call certain folk out. Right. And, I mean, look, I mean, one of the ways Clarence Thomas actually got on the Supreme Court was because there were different black folks

he had met with and black folks, I remember people saying this, well, you know, he had to say and do certain stuff to make white folk

comfortable. Once he gets on there, then he's going to show us who he really is. Yeah. Well, he did. He did. And we see exactly

who he is. That's right. As Dr. Maya Angelou said, you know, when they show, you believe them. And so, because folks know, I ain't got a problem calling out nobody Indian and black. So, I mean, and again, I think, again, a natural part of our focus, well, you know what? I don't want to say that. I don't really want to go public, you know. Let's have some quiet stuff behind.

No, if you that crazy, I got to call you out. Absolutely. I can't just let you just ride your blackness and then you turn into that crazy fool. And most folk in this room know I'll just call it what it is because Mark Robinson is definitely that. And then I look at all that goes on with Mark and him being black doesn't mean anything for me if he's going to be crazy. Right. Because I know a whole lot of black crazy folk.

Right. I mean, give me a white conscious person over a black crazy fool any day of the week so so it begins to be beyond ethnicity and cultural background it's got to be on the issue of platforms whatever it is we're standing on things along those lines so all right well bishop look we certainly appreciate it look look uh we want to see the fruits of that labor uh and and uh you know the other thing the only thing that i will add because we had this conversation last night in elizabeth city they were talking about you know part of only thing that I will add, because we had this conversation last night in Elizabeth City, they were talking about, you know, part of the issue is lack of, you know, information in terms of media.

And what we're seeing is that, and look, you know, I created this show because I wasn't interested in waiting on other folk to figure it out or waiting on somebody to say, hey, yeah know let's go ahead and give you a show because they still only they still control uh... and so i think what we have to be about is also creating uh... black media in in in utilizing digital enable collect data to be the driving information uh... and not relying on others and so uh... that that's also part of this because whatever coalition is built,

there has to be a media component, because that is called mass media for a reason, to be able to grab the information. So I think that's also important as well. So a good look with that. And hopefully at the end of early voting, we'll see massive numbers come out from black folks in East North Carolina. Thank you, Roland. Appreciate it. We're going to go to a break. We come back. We got another panel here. We got some young folks. We want to chat with them about their thoughts in this election. Folks, don't forget, support the work that we do here on Roland Martin Unfiltered and the Black Star Network. You can join our Bring the Funk fan club. If you're checking money, order the PO Box 57196, Washington, D.C., 20037-0196. Of course, PayPal is rmartinunfiltered.

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This weird obsession with crowd sizes. It just goes on and on and on. Hmm. America's ready for a new chapter. We are ready for a President Kamala Harris. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for president. So why are Trump's close allies helping her? Stein was key to Trump's 2016 wins in battleground states.

She's not sorry she helped Trump win. That's why a vote for Stein is really a vote for Trump. Jill Stein, I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from them. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. The overturning of Roe almost killed me. I had a blood clot in my uterus that caused my labor to have to be induced

because of the overturn of Roe v. Wade. I wasn't able to get life-saving treatment sooner. I almost died. And that's because of the decision that Donald Trump made. I was able to get Roe v. Wade terminated, and I'm proud to have done it. The doctors and nurses were afraid that if they treated me in the incorrect way, that they would be prosecuted for that.

And that's appalling. Donald Trump says that women should be punished. Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment. For the woman? Yeah. I believe that women should have reproductive freedom to make the choices about their own bodies.

Four more years of Donald Trump means that women's rights will continue to be taken away one by one by one by one. This has to stop because women are dying. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message. So why is coming ahead to vote important for you? Why am I voting for her? Because she is the right person for the job. She is strong and she has a heart of gold and she is an intelligent woman. You know, not to mention that she represents the best of who we are and she wants to take us forward, move us forward and she's doing it in an intelligent way, you know, with sophistication and love for everybody. And she's just a powerful, strong woman. And I admire her so much for all that she has already done

and that she will do to move our country forward. And bring us all under the same umbrella, the umbrella of democracy and fairness for all. And I take it you wouldn't mind seeing a lot of pink and green on January 20th on the mall in Washington, huh? For inauguration? Yes, sir. You got that right, brother.

Absolutely. All right. I appreciate it. All right. All right, folks. Welcome back to Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. Glad to be here. Glad to be here.

Now, y'all know I don't mind shade. I love being petty. I thrive on being petty. A moment ago, the Vice President, let's just say she got a little petty with some folks who were making some noise at her rally. I's i'm clayton english i'm greg glad and this is season two of

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What she said to these folks. Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally. Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally. You guys are at the wrong rally. No, I think you meant to go to the smaller one down the street. the as well as a as as as i like and i found the opinion as right now that this smaller rally down the street. All right, y'all. I want to introduce our panel right now. LaShawn Jenkins, high school principal. I'm sorry. Hold up. Sorry.

Kevin Jones. All right. Kevin. You, DOT? Where you working? All right. Cool. I take it you like A&T? I love A&T. Okay. All right. Just checking I take it you like A&T? I love A&T. Okay, all right. Just checking, kind of figured that out. Sidney Meeks. First of all, coordinator? Y'all got another different title here.

What is this? Corfinator? I do a lot of things. What is Corfinator? What is that? I don't know. Okay, I'm just making sure. Because y'all come up with some new stuff.

All right, she's with NextGen America, LaShonda Washington, Nash County Board of Education. How we doing? Good. Y'all good? Good. Y'all talking to Mike? Yeah. Don't be scared.

Glad to be here. Don't be scared. All right, so NextGen, what work are y'all doing for this election? What are y'all doing? So we're doing a lot of work. Right now, I serve as regional organizing director for NextGen America, which covers Durham, Raleigh, and Chapel Hill. First, for the folk who have no idea, what is NextGen America? Oh, it's a political non-profit.

It's the largest youth voting organization in the country. And we focus on 18 and 35-year-olds. And we're on campuses nationwide. But I do want to say I'm here on my own purposes tonight, not next year. Okay, gotcha.

But that's your day job. But that is the work I do. That is my day job. Gotcha. And outside of that, I've worked on campaigns and done some activism work in the community. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Sounds good. One of the things that I constantly am talking about, I'll run into folks anywhere from 18 to 39. They'll be complaining about politics and they're like, OK, all these old folk, they keep running. And I keep but I keep trying to explain them. Well, they run and you don't. The second thing is, and it's a fact, older folk vote and younger folk don't. And so the reality is, if you look at millennials in Gen Z represent the largest demographic. But the bottom line is, when you look at who votes, 65 plus votes at a higher rate than any other group in the country. And so what I say to them all the time is you can't complain about the folk who show up if you're spending your time on TikTok. And so, Kevin, and it's not, and that's not being mean-spirited, it's just a fact. And so when you're having these conversations

with peers, what are you saying when you hear some of that? So when I hear it, I'm talking to peers who are at that point where the student loans have gone into repayment, to where families have started to form, you know, the big boy, big girl job we'll call it has started. And so what I remind them of. We call it adulting. Oh, yeah, adulting, we have to build the world and the political landscape that is reflective of what we need. We can't keep allowing our parents' generation to make our bed, clean our dishes, and pay our bills. We have to make sure that we are the ones now leading and taking care of them, honestly, and making something that not only benefits us, but benefits those who looked out for us and also those who we are bringing into this world but

also i i think it's it's it's also getting them to understand that first of all no matter what stage of your life whether you're 18 perfect example yesterday i was in elizabeth city state university and i was talking to students there and they were they were saying they're having the conversations and you have folks that say, well, I don't think election matters. I'm going, okay, but you're attending a state university. Your funding is dependent upon the state legislature. So to act as if voting doesn't matter, it has a direct impact on your facilities,

on buildings, on staffing, things along those lines. And so what I try to do to get folks to understand is ask them, what are the three things that you care about so they now can, it forces them to have to put some skin in the game versus saying, well, I'm just going to check it out. Your thoughts on that in terms of when you're having these discussions, when you hear discussions, what are they going like? So when I have these discussions, I'm usually amongst parents because I am a parent.

So we talk about education, and then that's how I get their buy-in. That's how I talk to them because in North Carolina, education is funded by your property taxes. Yep. So and to change how education is funded, we must elect the people that we want in charge. So that starts with our local elections. So I'm like, who do you even, do you know who your representative is? Girl, don't even get started on that one.

Man, folks, oh my God, folks just start throwing out names. And they do. And it's kind of like, no, that is not your council member. That's a member of Congress. No.

And don't even ask them who their school board member is. Oh, Lord. Go ahead. I'm sorry. But you are totally right. People do throw names, and that's an opportunity for education. I let them know, hey, no, this is your congressman, this is your school board member, and then we just grow the conversation, then we let it grow organically. i don't try to shove anything down their throat i just try to meet them where

they are oh i'm shoving them i'm just no i mean because i'm sure i've been saying this for the longest we literally gotta have return to schoolhouse rock the number of people who ain't got no idea about public policy is crazy. Like, I had to literally cuss some folk out the other day. I ain't got a problem saying that. So y'all can front all y'all want to. But I know some of y'all. It's okay, you're not alone. I do it sometimes.

I know some of them be cussing the parking ministry. They be cussing the parking ministry on Sunday. Y'all know I ain't lying. When they tell you you can't park somewhere, y'all be like, what? But seriously, when we were talking about just no understanding, like I had to cuss somebody out two days ago. They were acting a fool saying, well, Vice President Kamala Harris is playing, you know, it's not black male specific.

And I said, fool, you cannot pass a bill that is specifically for one group based upon race. They were mad because they said, and others. I'm like, yeah, fool, because you can't do that. And these people are just, and I ain't trying to meet them where they are. I'm trying to meet them outside. And it drives me crazy because they then promote that stuff

and people walk around saying well you know it ain't black males or it's not black specific so therefore i'm not buying it you can't do that right right and which leads honestly to misinformation um and speaking of madam vice president there's been a ton of misinformation regarding her record in California. Oh, she locked up 85,000 black men. Right, which is, if you actually look, she didn't. They called her soft on crime, actually. So I think one of the things that I do is ask people,

okay, who in your circle and your spirit do you care about? So for me, I have a sister who is a black gay woman in America. So whether we agree or disagree on that, as Christians, she should not be hated or killed for who she loves, right? I have a brother who is a type one diabetic. I can't tell you how many conversations we've had in our household as he was growing up about paying for insulin. Me, being a survivor of rape and sexual

assault, attack on reproductive rights. If it had happened where I got into a situation where I got pregnant and we're in today's times, I'm going to have to suffer and go through a pregnancy because you all think I should have one y'all gonna take care of this baby no and we see that with legislation so I think we have to

they're not they're not pro-life they anti abortion right right right because if you were pro-life you would find free free food in schools. We wouldn't have the candidate that's running for superintendent right now in North Carolina. You're talking about crazy. She's absolutely crazy. And again, these are things that we're actually seeing. But also, one of the things that I keep arguing with people when they talk about this election and the vice president, what's happening with the Department of Justice is a perfect example. The Mara Solomon Simmons with Justice for Greenwood joins us right now. And what's happening with the Department of Justice is a perfect example. DeMario Solomon-Simmons with Justice for Greenwood joins us right now. And what's happening is the Department of Justice has launched, they're going to do a full review of the Tulsa race massacre in 1921.

They were in Tulsa interviewing folks for that. And this is a perfect example of when you have a DOJ that actually cares about these type of issues. DeMario, are you there? I'm here. What's up, brother? What's up, brother? Again, this is what, you know, I've discussed this so many different times. When you have a DOJ, a civil rights division, when you have 12 police paths in practice of investigation,

one under Trump, when you have $150 million in fines for mortgage discrimination, you can't even talk about what happened under Trump. When you have $150 million in fines for mortgage discrimination, you can't even talk about what happened under Trump. And this here, caring about these cold cases. So tell us what the DOJ was doing in Tulsa today. Hey, what's going on? Good to see everybody. Listen, the DOJ came for the first time in 103 years related to the Tulsa race massacre. They spent a couple of days with us. They met with our survivors, which we have two survivors, 110-year-old Viola Ford Fletcher and 109-year-old Leslie Benefield Randall. They also met with what we call first-generation descendants, these individuals whose parents suffered through the massacre, all these people in their 70s. And so we had a very robust couple of days. We gave them a full tour of the Greenwood District,

which a lot of people think is one street, but it actually was 38 to 40 blocks. It's a very huge area, four square miles. And so they really got to understand the scope and scale of the massacre. And one thing we impressed upon them and everyone that they met with here in Tulsa, which included elected officials who are also descendants, we want a full investigation. Right now they're talking about a review and evaluation,

but we want a full investigation that will hold the perpetrators accountable. That means those who participated in the massacre who are dead, they need to be named and identified. And those entities like the city, the county, and the Chamber of Commerce, they need to be held accountable. So now obviously what happens in November, DeMario dictates that. If Vice President Kamala Harris wins, you're going to see a continuation of a very aggressive civil rights division under her. If Donald Trump wins, you're going to see a non-existent civil rights division under him. There's no question. Obviously, if your vote didn't matter, we wouldn't have Biden in office. And if Biden is not in office, we wouldn't have Assistant Attorney General Kristen

Clark, who authorized this review and evaluation. So votes does matter. And we definitely want to keep this moving forward, not just for what's going on here with the Tulsa race massacre, but all our civil rights claims and activities across this nation. So I'm excited, Groland, that you got people there and in North Carolina, all around this nation, getting our people out to vote. But it's also important that when we put the right people in office, that they actually deliver practical and positive results for our community. Now, we need that to happen and not be performative and not to just be something that looks good on paper, but they actually do something that changes the material impact of our lives as Black people in this country. And I hope that this is what happens with the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre Review.

And I hope that continues strongly with our new president. I'm already speaking into existence. I know you're in the church. I'm already speaking into existence, our new president. And as she says, when we fight, we win. And we're still fighting for justice and reparations here in Tulsa 103 years later. So we were excited to have someone from your hometown, Roland, Representative Al Green, was with us over the last 48 hours, and he's standing strong with us. He's going to actually introduce some legislation that's going to be beneficial to our survivors

and our descendants all over the nation. I know we have descendants right there in North Carolina, so please connect with us. And as we told everyone today at our press conference, if you have any information, any documents, or you think you may be connected to the Tulsa race massacre in any manner, please reach out to us at DOJ at justice for Greenwood.org. That's DOJ at justice for Greenwood.org or email us at, uh, uh, I mean, or go to our Facebook or Instagram at justice for Greenwood. That's a justice for Greenwood.

We want to hear from you. We need to get this information over to the Department of Justice. We need Justice for Greenwood, Justice for the Tulsa Race Massacre, Justice for Black People throughout this nation. All right, DeMario, we still appreciate it. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it, brother. Take it easy.

All right, then. And how do you come on the show dressed like a Sigma? No, this is purple, my brother. It may be your screen. I don't know what it is, but this is purple, my brother. Let's get it straight. Let's never, ever, ever disrespect me like that again. No disrespect to the Sigmas.

Well, first of all, you know you're born in a little youth group, because there's only one fraternity. You know that's Alpha. Well, you started off this segment saying that you're petty, but you're also wrong. So, you know, let's just keep it real. Well, no one ever accused Omega

of having high IQs. Don't start. Don't start. Do not start tomorrow. Hey, Eric, they know we're bold. I see somebody with them beautiful purple and gold shirts on. That must be the church colors because they know that's the color of royalty. So let's keep it real.

You saw one person in the purple shirt, and they ain't got nothing to do with Omega. So be quiet. We got to go. Who are you? You trying to latch on to anything. I'm going to bring my panel here, Lauren, Nola, and Greg as well, on this conversation. Because one of the issues that really we talk about that I think has to be talked about when we're trying to reach young African-Americans is for them to understand the difference between these two candidates and criminal justice. When you have one, you guys get ready.

So last night, Univision had a town hall, and that orange fool spoke last night. And I want y'all to see the faces. I want y'all to see the faces of the Latino folks in that audience when he started talking about Haitian immigrants eating all kind of stuff. Y'all, roll the clip. Do you really believe that these people are eating the people's pets? Thank you.

Well, thank you very much. And this was just reported. I was just saying what was reported that's been reported and eating other things, too, that they're not supposed to be. But this is all I do is report. I have not. I was there. I'm going to be there. And we're going to take a look.

And I'll give you a full report when I do. But that's been in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly. I will say this as far as Springfield is concerned, because I do know that situation. You have a city of 52,000 people, and they've added almost 30,000 migrants into the city. If you were a person that lived there, if you lived in Springfield, Ohio, and all of a sudden you couldn't get into a hospital, you couldn't get your children into a school, you wouldn't be able to buy groceries. You could no longer pay the rent because the government's paying rent. Any of that, if any of that happened, it would be a disaster for you and you wouldn't be happy. We want to make our

people safe and secure and we want to make them happy. But Springfield, Ohio is a perfect example. You have a town, a beautiful little town with no problems. All of a sudden, they have 30,000 or 32,000 people dropped into the town, most of whom don't speak the language, most of whom don't speak the language at all. And what they're doing is they're looking all over for... I said I'm done here. Y'all got to move way faster. When I say I'm done, I ain't got to say I'm done four times.

One time suffice. Okay? Here's the thing that, like, this is the person who will be in charge of the Department of Justice. This is the person who is going to be targeting Haitian immigrants, targeting black folks. If those were immigrants from the Netherlands, from Switzerland, he would have no problem if he had blonde hair, blue eyes. And so that's really what you're dealing with. And our folks understand that when the Supreme Court has already made clear he has full immunity, that is giving a person like him the license to act a fool go ahead yeah

so i can't help but agree 100 with what you're saying because you know i think we've seen a lot of two-term presidents in you know the last you know 30 years 40 years and you know they're always on those pbs documentaries they come back and say, you know, well, I had to wait until after my first term to do what I really wanted to do and be really deliberate on everything I said I was going to do. And to me, that's the scariest part about Donald Trump's presidency. Because, I mean, just like any other president who's gone two terms, he's now, I think he's going to be emboldened to do everything that he

fears may have kept him out of even the conversation of reelection. Greg Carr, let's be real clear. Black folks had better understand there will be a target on our backs if this fool is back in the Oval Office. Of course, and we have to act accordingly. Donald Trump is a fascist. We see that. The people who follow him are angry. He's whipping that anger up, that divisiveness, that anger. Underneath anger like that, when you're talking about fascism at a national level, is fear.

And their fear is us. By us, I mean all non-whites. That craven little man, that shrunken spirit little gnome named Stephen Miller will slither back into the White House. They may even give him a portfolio that might even include up to maybe attorney general. He will lead the purge. And what that elder had on his face as Donald Trump ventured into Univision to attempt to burnish this kind of fear and be very clear about this. What he is saying to folks in the Spanish speaking community is that we're going to deport the people who are not like you.

They're trying to convince them that this won't be me. It'll be those other people who didn't come here legally. What he had on his face was a reaction to the reality that everyone who is not white will be put out of this country in their white fever dream. So when we look at this, this is the rising tide of color at the beginning of the 20th century, the top started and all them. This is the real Americans argument in the 19th century during the period of the Civil War and before. This is the everything they've been doing since they passed the Immigration and Nationalization Act in 1965 has been designed to try to roll back the 20th century and that rising tide of color. Finally, Donald Trump realizes that the only card he has to play is that fear.

So he has now dropped all pretenses. The question we have to ask ourselves is when are we going to drop all pretenses and understand that there is no communicating with these folks? They must be rolled over like the sea. No, on that particular point, we're going to play in a second. Last night at Univision, folk did not look happy when he talked about deporting some 11 million people. But we have to understand, you know, I've run into a number of black immigrants who are voting for Donald Trump. In fact, when I was doing early voting, I ran into a sister who is a Jamaican who is Republican. And I'm sitting here going like, baby, he's going to deport you, too. I mean, I mean, I mean, you can't just flash a Republican card and think you're going to stay. Because, NOLA, the reality is they are hell-bent on advancing this great replacement theory.

They are scared to death of color. They're afraid of the country where we're going. I was having a conversation with an anchor over the weekend about their issue, and I was explaining to her, she's a national anchor, I said, look, 10 years ago, Europe was going through this. So you had massive protests and battles because of African immigrants. Well, here's the reality. White folks in Italy, Germany, UK, Ireland, other countries, they stopped having kids.

Those countries were losing population. You cannot maintain your gross domestic product if you don't have people to do those jobs. In the United States, there are more than 12 states right now where the average annual white death rate is higher than the average annual white birth rate. The numbers are the numbers. And so what Trump is complaining about Springfield, that was a dying city. They had lost more than 25 percent of their population. And those Haitian immigrants are actually bringing that city back. And that's the thing they don't want. I'm Clayton English.

I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-stud on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.

It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corps vet, MMA fighter, Liz Karamush.

What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution.

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because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. Talk about that was one of those white towns that was dying because folks were leaving the Rust Belt State Snowboard. And, you know, this this isn't new, you know, as everyone has pointed out, this has been the buildup over time. And the idea of whiteness cloaked in your vote, you know, the cloak of whiteness that a lot of folks that are new to the country or maybe, you know, first generation believe that that cloak, that voting cloak will save them somehow. And where we are right now, you don't have to do the guesswork. You don't have to say, well, you know, in my experience,

they are saying it plainly in your face, what is going to happen? Donald Trump walked into Univision yesterday and told people and repeatedly, repeatedly told people who do not speak English that they don't speak, that these people don't speak English. Are you kidding me? You know how bold that is to walk into a place where most of the people need an interpreter to say that. So the boldness and the cruelty has gotten worse and worse. And Donald Trump has been the perfect vector for that cruelty. So for any group, any group with any melanin in their skin, any group with too many alphabets in their last names, you are susceptible to the cruelty of Project 2025. And let's not get it twisted.

It has nothing to do with, you know, violence and eating pets or anything like that. It really is. It's it's just cruel. It is literally just that. For years, I've tried to, you know, figure out eloquent ways to put it. But when you when you take a step back and you're like, you know what, these people just really do not care. Shaming them does not work. Calling them racist do not work. They have leaned all the way into that cruelty, honey. And so that's what we're up against. And there are groups coming into the country who are scared and trying to figure out, okay, which choice, which decision should I make? Would I be safer with the cruel folks? Maybe if I'm with them, they won't come for me. And it's false. It's demonstrably false. And that's part of the

messaging. This whole divide and conquer with, you know, Black immigrants, first generation, second generation, however long you've been here, that is also working. The same way where, you know, the Trump campaign—I have this conversation often, especially with a really good friend of mine who owns a hip-hop magazine, and allhiphop.com. We have a lot of conversations about the way that the Trump administration has targeted so many people that exist in that community on purpose. And the way that they have talked to the black community via tacky sneakers, via, oh, I must resonate with the black community because I have mug shots. And then there was a rapper the other day who said with Trump's baby mamas and

all his convictions and stuff like that, he's blacker than a black person walking around. The way that they understand blackness and the way that they are targeting blackness on top of making sure that those divisions are sewn between immigrant, non-immigrant black people, they are trudging away at the bottom of all of this. And they are going for the dirt. They are going for the silt. They do not care. So when I say that the goal is cruelty, they don't care how they will achieve the goal. They are just trying to get there by any means necessary. So my message to young folks, listen, I was a caregiver for a very long time. My mama died a year ago. And I am here to tell you, if my mama was not a

veteran, I don't know what I would have done to pay for her insulin, to pay for her healthcare. So even if you don't think that, you know, issues are impacting you right now, I guarantee you, your mama, your daddy, your auntie, your cousin, your uncle, everybody around you, who is at the top of the bill matters, who's in the middle, who's at the bottom of the bill, the entire ticket, it all matters. If you don't think it matters for you right now at 18 or 24 or even at 30, I promise you it matters for your community. Are y'all hearing immigration is an issue from Pierce? No, I'm not. I'm not hearing immigration. I'm not either. What do you hear is the top issue? Reproductive rights. Reproductive rights? Reproductive rights and voting rights. Economy. And what about the economy?

The economy as far as the cost of things, which I know presidents don't control, but, you know, the mass misconception is that, you know, whoever's in office, and it's because they take the blame, they take the credit. Never take the blame. They always take the credit for the economy. And so I'm hearing things cost too much. I think that's chalked up to the fact that a lot of my peers, like I told you before, we're in our first adulting roles and we thought everything was sweet when we used to

ask mom and dad. That's right. It wasn't paying for it. That's right. And now we're paying for it. And we've seen, I think, you know, year over year, probably, you know, some of the biggest increases from the time we were like 2016, 2017. But's also price gouging. We understand that. And also understand you were dealing with in 2021 also, was it 22, you were still dealing with a pandemic. And so it's just understanding those realities. So we'll see what certainly shakes out. Give us here how universities dropped their new poll

and their new poll again. See, this here. Howard University dropped their new poll. And their new poll, again. See, this is why I keep trying to. Y'all, I've done all these national television shows. And all these people, y'all may have seen me on these shows. I kept telling them, stop telling me about these white polls that don't talk to black people. Because I said, this is the only show where we featured the ten black polls. That where they specifically polled black people and nobody else and we were trying to explain them black support so how university uh their

new poll uh shows that uh vice president kamala harris is outpacing uh president joe biden's margin over trump among black voters uh she's now plus 76 percent among black voters, 84% to 8%. So all those fools who were talking about he was doing the 20%, I'm like, hashtag, we tried to tell you. So listen to black people that talk to black people. All right, got to go to a break, Pam. I certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot, folks. We'll be right back. I'm Roland Martin.

I'm a pro- the Black Sun-Air. Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it, and I'm proud to have done it. Now Donald Trump wants to go further with plans to restrict birth control, ban abortion nationwide, even monitor women's pregnancies. We know who Donald Trump is. He'll take control. We'll pay the price. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. He told us who he was. Should abortion... In 2016, Donald Trump said he would choose only the best people to work in his White House.

Now those people have a warning for America. Trump is not fit to be president again. Here's his vice president. Anyone who puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. His defense secretary. Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again? No. I mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk.

His national security advisor. Donald Trump will cause a lot of damage. The only thing he cares about is Donald Trump. And the nation's highest ranking military officer. We don't take an oath to a king or queen or a tyrant or a dictator. We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Take it from the people who knew him best. Donald Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy. We can't let him lead our country again. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message. Wrongfully convicted.

Five teenagers were arrested, tried, convicted, and sent to prison. Men were exonerated. What he did to us, he tried to end us. Of course I hate these people. So-called Central Park Five.

Calling for execution. And let's all hate these people. You cannot have this man go into office again. I want society to have. We were innocent kids. The confessions were caused. Today we are exonerated. That guy says he still stands

by the original guilty verdict. This is about democracy being on the ballot. I have absolutely no compassion. Look at Kamala. She represents the kaleidoscope of the human family. There's something different happening in America. We will get the opportunity to build a future where we will be able to thrive and not just survive. There's nothing socialist about Kamala Harris. Trump says Harris is a radical. I don't buy it.

Conservatives have a super majority on the Supreme Court. With a likely Republican Senate, those checks and balances keep our country sane. If Trump wins, he could end up with total control. I'm a conservative. I don't agree with Harris on everything, but she was a tough prosecutor and she put bad guys in prison. I voted for Donald Trump three times. I'm voting for Kamala Harris in November.

I'm voting for Kamala Harris this fall. Tell you about these two sisters. They work for everyone's election. And they have really been a solid rock in this community. We'll get out the vote efforts. They usually come and they support the Democratic ticket. The whole ticket. The whole ticket, up and down.

But you can always count on it. So how long you been doing this? Since what, 14 or 12? Gotcha. I forgot. And why do you do it? Why? Because I feel that it is desperately needed. Cause we're trying to teach people the process, how it works, to learn things.

So many people don't even realize the party is underneath the names. Uh huh. And this is the things that we're trying to help people. So when they come back to the party next time, they have a little bit more information than they had before. All right. So how about you?

Why do you why do you why do you work elections? I do everything that my sister said. And our goal is that one day we won't have to do this to the extent that we do. That's what we're working towards. Well, my parents are 77. They didn't work in elections since I was 8 or 9. So they ain't stopped. How about you?

And I'm working opposed because I'm a candidate. Okay. Are you running? I'm running. Okay. And I'm running for the school board, District 6, and I'm asking everybody to vote for me. I've done this work now for 28 years, and I would like to continue because I love our kids, and I want to help our children be successful.

Well, one of the things that I do is I'm always trying to explain to people why they got to focus on down-ballot races because a lot of school board races, very few folks vote. Right, that's true. That is true. They're gonna take the state legislative, then they move on to Washington DC. So these local elections matter and they're very, very important. And another reason why we do this is because my sister and I are both retired and we can do it.

Yes, yes, thank you. All both retired and we can do it. Yes. Thank you. All right. Well, I appreciate it. I'm glad to see you all out here handling your business. We'll do the best we can possibly do. Okay. I'll be there tonight. Okay.

All right. Take care. I'll see you tonight. All right. We continue our conversation. Glad to have our panelists here. LaShonda Washington, Nash County Board of Education. Also, LaShawn Jenkins is a high school principal. And my next guest also is Malcolm Logan, attorney. them are the Mario still watching members of he's in a youth group we belong to fraternity Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated I'm just saying coldest and the boldest uh Dr. Greg Carr who's still with us also a fellow alpha uh and so uh you know we had our

win with black men call all other all other dudes got mad they said man you got all these alphas on the call I said well that ain't my problem. We can throw a rock and hit an alpha leader. I said, we got to look for y'all. But they were all mad. I said, y'all got to get over it. It's all good. I said, we'll pray for y'all.

Let's talk about this election. I'm curious to know what you're hearing, what's being discussed here in eastern North Carolina. What are folks saying? Well, I'm a candidate for the district seat, school board seat, and I was out this morning when the polls opened. People seem to be optimistic, which is a great thing. They were there early, and they were there in numbers, and that's what we need. So as an educator, you know, I have a lot of educator friends.

We're all connected in some communities or another. And I've just heard a lot and seen a lot about just the energy of the campaign. You know, not so much that, you know, that President Biden would not have got the job done, but at that particular switch, I think there was just a critical revitalization in the black community in terms of the energy, the optimism, the hope in terms of like our future. And so and of course, you know, the educators that I know when we talk about, you know, you know, the election, I mean, we're talking about like just how astronomical this election is. You know, as we, you know, the Republican plan to eradicate the Department of Education, we know that a lot of our kids, a lot of our communities are beneficiaries of public education.

And so if that system was to be eradicated, we think that that would really be a dismantling of not only, like, black schools, but public schools in general and also like our kids and would clearly alter their life trajectories and expected outcomes of what we expect from them. Yeah, I would say there are two things to take kind of more of a pessimistic spin. Two things that I've seen that have been somewhat distressing. Number one is there are still a large number of people who are treating this, and I'm talking about the very top of the ticket, as a competition between equals and actually trying to give equal weight to the most qualified candidate

we've ever had for the office and someone who is at best mediocre but happens to be cloaked in the garment of white supremacy that gives him oxygen that he doesn't deserve. So I find that distressing. The second thing is that there are people who still believe that their vote doesn't matter. And I would simply say, if it didn't matter, then why are people trying to take it from you? Right? Ask my 11 year old if her iPad matters, because that's what I'm trying to take from her when I'm trying to make a point. So if your vote doesn't matter, then why are they suppressing it? Why are they diluting it? Why are they otherwise making it difficult for your voice to be heard? So those are some of the things that I'm hearing here in North Carolina. Well, again, I go back to what I said earlier. I

think what has to happen is we have to actually push people on these things. I was in Philadelphia last week, and there was all this conversation back and forth about black men, and all these folks were saying how black men are not being heard, and they want the issues addressed. And then I said, okay, name them. Then it was, well, you know, like no name them uh and in fact there was one brother who was uh on social media i hit him with that one and he listed five things and i literally showed him uh all five how those things are being addressed you know and i and again it just it just baffles me and i think what what happens a lot there are people who just say stuff and literally don't know.

First of all, there are some people who are deliberately lying. But there are others who don't know. And this is why one of the things I even said to the vice president in November. I long believed that how I saw this election. I said January to July should have been what I call an education and enlightenment phase, if you will, because people did not know what had been accomplished, and they need to understand what had been accomplished. And I think we're still seeing that. Folks are like, well, I wish this happened. This happened.

You're kind of like, it did. It did. It did. And that's just a large part of this happened, this happened. You're kind of like, it did, it did, it did. And that's just a large part of this campaign. Go ahead. Yes, I want to say you had made a comment earlier about the— First of all, while you're talking, Vice President Kamala Harris is speaking at a rally in Wisconsin. We're going to wrap this up shortly.

I'm going to go live to that particular panel speech, but go ahead. Awesome. You said earlier, you mentioned earlier about the Hispanic and Latino community. I have a big familiarity with that population here locally. They are scared. They're uninformed. Gratefully, I'm bilingual. I can speak the language.

That's how I know they're scared. They're uninformed. So we have to be intentional and inclusive about educating all. And I just want to add that, you know, speaking of education, like civic education is like really critical. But when you look at civic education and how it's prioritized, when you look at curriculums from across the country, you have states like Florida who are saying anything that's positive that relates to children of color, that we shouldn't teach it. We are banning books. We are reframing from using terms like slavery and using terms like voluntary displacement.

And so critical race theory is really critical. And so if we are to be the power that we are in this election and, as you put it, in the continual cycle, we've got to return to the sheer fundamentals. And that's what I love about attending this church is that the past is really big about civic education. Right now, if you were to and this is just hypothetical, but if you were to truly quiz Americans, particularly in communities of color about like, talk to me about the electoral college system. How does it work? How does it operate? How do we elect the president man i had one dude work i had one dude say i had one fool say i ain't voting till they change electoral college and i

went um are you aware the electoral college is the Constitution, which it requires two-thirds to change it? I said, then are you aware of how many states have to ratify that change if it does happen? Which means, fool, that the people who are elected in Congress are going to vote on changing it, and then the people who are elected in the states will then have to ratify it. So, yo, I told y'all I had to cuss. Y'all saw where that was going. I was like, so do you, I said, so, don't you think it kind of sounds stupid that you're going to wait to vote until they change it

when you're going to need to vote for them to change it and he and i was just sitting here kind of like i don't if i had a two by four i wouldn't just crack him but i mean but but but that stuff is real the stuff and and let's be real clear these we and we also need to stop with this notion that that these are people who don't have college degrees and are educated. It's a bunch of dumb people with degrees who have no idea about civics. And so I think we got to actually go back to freedom schools where where we literally are having classes going, okay, this is how a bill gets passed. Yeah, so it's interesting point that both of you made. Here in this region of Alpha Phi Alpha Alpha South, as we call ourselves, our Southern Regional Vice President Cecil Howard

created an initiative called the Mean Strategy. It's a four-legged stool around voting. M stands for mobilization, making sure that people register to vote, that they go out to vote, that they prioritize voting, that they avail themselves of opportunities to vote. The E stands for education, learning about the records of candidates, about what they've accomplished, about whether or not they've been on nude Africa, about whether they call themselves a black Hitler, about where they worship what they worship, what they believe in. The A stands for advocacy. That means are you helping protect the vote? Are you, as I have, taking off election day so you can stand there and protect the vote at a poll site to make sure

that people are not receiving bad information or being steered away from the polls when they can legally pass a ballot, even if that's not their particular voting site. And the N stands for navigation, which is understanding the civic process. What does it mean to elect these people? What does the commissioner of insurance do? What does the North Carolina superintendent of public education actually do? I see they have a D next to their name, so I'm going to check the box. What do they actually do? Right. I also believe there's a fifth pillar, which is succession. And every one of you in this room should be on a ticket yourselves. You don't have to just vote for people who you see on TV. Why is that not you yourself? So think about that as we do within the fraternity in terms of how you

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the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. And I'll say this before we go. We discussed it earlier. It's also, I was reading Joanne Robinson's book about how they organized the Montgomery Bus Board, Kyle. And if folks don't know, it was Dr. Joanne Robinson, professor Alabama State in terms of how they were activated and what was amazing was amazing about the story

Anthony, where's the bag with the drones in it? pull that book out did you bring it in? is it in the back? it's the book with the red cover first of all, so many people should have a copy of this book because she explains how it actually happened. And when, because there were folks who got arrested before Rosa Parks.

And the Women's Political Council wanted to be activated, but the other folks were not ready yet. And so what then happened was, when that happened, she then grabbed two students, went to the basement in Alabama State. They then graphed enough copies to distribute about 20,000 copies, split them in four. And what was so amazing, she then called about nine or ten of the women in the group. White folks in the whole town did not know. And they literally were dropping the flyers off and then distributed those flyers to about 20-plus thousand black people in Montgomery. And it was only when one black person was working for some white woman brought it to her white boss.

And then it got in the hands of the media. And so Joanne Robinson said they were ticked off, but then they were pleased because the media didn't cover the event. But the reason I was fascinated by that is because, one, they already had an organization. They had been moving and operating and meeting. That was first. Two, when it was time to activate, she literally picked the phone up and called nine or ten of them. They were like, done. Dropped the flyers off. They already had a whole distribution model set up. That's how that happened. That's how, because the Montgomery Bus Boycott was a one-day boycott that then went on for 381 more days.

But the reason I tell that story, yeah, that one. The reason I tell that story is because, no, forget the cameras. Just walk over. I ain't queer about all that. So this is the book here. It's called The Montgomery Bus Boycott and the Women Who Started It, the memoir of Joanne Gibson Robinson, and edited with a forward by David

Garrow. And every AKA should have a copy of this because she's your sorority sister. And so, but the thing is, it was the Women's Council that actually drove this. But that was an organization. And so when it was time to move, they pressed a button. So imagine if there was no Women's Political Council. And then they had to have a meeting to figure out what we're going to do after the arrest. They were already in place. And this is what I was saying earlier. We were talking with the pastors and the same thing. This is where I just fundamentally believe our organizations have failed us in that if you had to do that today, I don't believe you can press that button and immediately have 20,000 flyers or whatever distributed because you want to have folks in line. We would

have to have call a meeting, ask a legal counsel what should we do and then we gonna have a meeting to have the next meeting to figure out what's actually gonna happen and and so I just think that what leaving here, every person who is a member of an organization should go to their next meeting thinking totally different. They should go to the next meeting and sayill meeting, in a prince or mason meeting, or any other group, church, men's group, women's group, how much time are we spending on internal stuff and how much of our agenda is dealing with external issues with the community? That to me is what I think our challenge has to be because we keep talking about problems in our community. So why have all of this so-called capacity if it's not being used properly? And that's why I love with these stories because we get hyped about the boycott. I get hyped about how they planned it, the strategy behind it.

Final comment. Go ahead. Listen, it's just like anything that you want to get good at. If you want to go out and run a marathon on the weekend, you can't start training today. You have to have good habits and good diets and good sleep patterns year round so that you're ready to go. It's no different than that. So we encourage you to exercise good electoral hygiene year round so that when this moment comes around, you're not caught off guard and ill prepared. And here's a simple, simple concept. I think that we just got to develop a culture around being proactive and not reactive. Sometimes we wait for stuff to happen. Oh yeah and then we react instead of just having a process and a procedure in place. And I believe that process and procedures prevents crisis. And I think that if we don't vote right, we're going to end up in a crisis. And so we just got

to be proactive in our dealings and our organizations and our civic organizations, and also in how we educate citizens. Parental involvement is very important when it comes to kids. We need everybody. You don't have to be a parent to be involved. Vote like your life depends on it, because it literally does. And take November 5th, which will be a historical moment, and begin to educate kids on that and move forward. Every little bit counts. See, I could never, first of all i i could never first of all i could never run for office uh because i probably would start with about 20 000 votes and probably end up with five because i'm telling no i i have little patience for sorry people no i do i i i can't i like i know i couldn't run for school board.

Because if I met somebody, I'd be like, you a parent? Yeah. You in the PTA? No. Man, get the hell on. I'm not lying. Because there's nothing worse than somebody with a kid in school saying education is important and you can't even join a PTA. But you want to challenge elected officials about what they're doing

and you can't go to the PTA meeting. See, y'all see why I couldn't run. Because I'm telling you, I've been cussing parents out all day and night. Because it bothers me when people say they want something, they care about something, and when you ask them the question, okay, well, are you involved? No, well, what you doing? That's just me.

Nolan, what's your final comment? I got about 30 seconds, then if I go to Greg, we'll close this out. All right, no, Greg. Yeah, thank you, Roland. You're on the road. You're doing what you did in 2020 when we overwhelmed everything and pulled people into office. Keep it up. North Carolina, shout out to y'all.

Don't worry about these white folks. We know in 1898, two hours south of y'all in Wilmington, we saw what happened when they have fear-driven hatred. We're going to roll over them like the sea. Stay safe and let's win this thing. Let me thank, let me thank Ward Tabernacle for hosting us for this show. I certainly appreciate it. We have enjoyed being here. Yesterday we were at Elizabeth City State University. Tomorrow we'll be broadcasting live Fayetteville State University. My alpha brother, Reverend Dr. William Barber will be joining us at Fayetteville State. We look forward to that. Look forward to that conversation there. And again,

folks, support the work that we do. We are, tomorrow's our last stop in North Carolina. We were in Pennsylvania last week and we are planning our stops in Wisconsin and Michigan, because again, it's important for us to take this on the road, because I can tell y'all this, everybody watching and listening, and I can say this with a certainty, you could take MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, ABC, NBC, CBS, and they will not have talked to this many black people in a month that we've talked to in the last five road trips. And this is why black-owned media matters, because when we control our voice, we don't have to ask anybody permission. And I say this all the time, and it's really because of our audience, our fans. You know, 31,000 folks since we launched six years ago have contributed to our show. We don't send them swag.

We don't send them hats and T-shirts. The money that they send goes right into the show. And so I say it all the time, and folk think I'm lying. When you look at the cameras that are here, when you look at our equipment, our lights and our switchers, and of course, our control room, I mean, you're talking about almost $400,000 worth of gear. But when you own it and control it again, you don't have to ask permission. And so that's why telling our own story matters. And so we appreciate everybody here,

those of you watching as well. Look for the restream. And again, you know how to support the show. You'll see the crawl down there. And so we're going to close it out here in Rocky Mount. I'll see you tomorrow in Fayetteville. Let's go live to Wisconsin. Vice President Kamala Harris, I'll see you all tomorrow.

Thank you. Let's go live to Wisconsin. Vice President Kamala Harris, I'll see you all tomorrow. Insurance coverage for 45 million Americans based on a concept? And take us back to when insurance companies were denying people with pre-existing conditions? You remember what that was? Well, we are not going back! We are not going back. We are not going back. We are not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back.

We're not going back. And we are not going back because just like Wisconsin's state motto tells us, we will move forward. Because ours is a fight for the future, and it is a fight for freedom. Like the fundamental freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. And no matter how he'd like to gaslight us, we are clear about how we got here. Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention

that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade, and they did as he intended. And now in America, one in three women live in a state with a Trump abortion ban. And you've heard the stories, awful stories, painful stories, of the experiences people have been having since that came down. I mean, think about it. Some of these states, there's no exception even for rape or incest, which means telling a survivor of a violation to their body that they have no right to make a decision about what happens to their body next. That's immoral. That's immoral. And let us agree, one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government should not be telling her what

to do. Not the government. And it is my pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom nationwide as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. Proudly sign it into law. Proudly. That's why you've got to get Tammy back to the Senate, by the way. Now, Donald Trump has a very different view on reproductive freedom.

And he refuses continuously, he refuses continuously to acknowledge the harm he has caused. See for yourself. Let's roll a clip. I did a great thing long term I think they'll understand I did a great thing I term. I think they'll understand. On the Roe v. Wade, I did a great thing. I want to talk about IVF. You don't hear that every day.

I'm the father of IVF. Right? Okay. The courts will take care of that. Let's take care of November. We'll take care of November. Now, I mean, seriously. So, first of all, no, Donald. Everybody did not want Roe v. Wade to be overturned.

Women are dying of sepsis because they cannot get the health care they need. They did not want this. Couples just trying to grow their family are being cut off in the middle of IVF treatments. They did not want this. And now, I mean, it just gets more unbelievable sometimes. And now the man calls himself the father of IVF. I mean, what does that even mean? And in all of that, well, he is the one who, by the way, is responsible for it being at risk in the first place. And what is sadly, what is sadly interesting, I think, is that when you listen to Donald Trump talk, it becomes increasingly clear, I think,

he has no idea what he's talking about. When it comes to the health care of women in America. And across our nation, again, because this is serious, right? You know, this is why you all are here and spending so much time when you could be doing other things. Listen, across our nation, we are witnessing a full-on assault on other and additional hard-won freedoms and rights, like the freedom to vote. You see what's happening around our country. Attacks on the freedom to join a union. Attacks on the freedom to just be safe from gun violence.

Attacks on the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride. So much is on the line in this election. And this is not 2016, and it's not 2020. The stakes are even higher, because a few months ago, the Supreme Court told the former president that he is effectively immune no matter what he does in the White House. Now, just imagine Donald Trump with no guardrails. Think about that. He who has vowed, if reelected, he will be a dictator on day one. That he will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies.

He who calls Americans who disagree with him the enemy from within, and says that if re-elected he would use the military to go after them. He who has called for the, quote, termination of the Constitution of the United States. And let us be very clear. Someone who suggests we should terminate the Constitution of the United States should never again stand behind the seal of the President

of the United States! Never again! Never again. Never again. Never again. Never again. So Wisconsin, it comes down to this. I know we are all here together because we know what is at stake. And we are here together because we love our country. We love, we love our country. And I do believe it is one of the highest forms of patriotism,

of an expression of the love of our country to then fight for its ideals and to fight to realize the promise of America. And that's what we are doing. So, Election Day is in 19 days. And here in Wisconsin, early voting starts next Tuesday, October 22nd. So, now is the time to make your plan to vote. And if you have received your ballot in the mail, please do not wait. Fill it out and return it today.

And remember, Wisconsin has same-day voter registration. So if you are not registered to vote, you can register when you vote on election day or early. Because, folks, the election is here. And so we know we need to organize, we need to energize, we need to organize. We need to energize. We need to mobilize. And we got to remind everybody, your vote is your voice, and your voice is your power. In a democracy, it still remains true that each individual has the power, each individual has the power to weigh in on this.

And so, Wisconsin, today I ask you, are you ready to make your voices heard? Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, we win! God bless you, and God bless the United lot of cops. They get asked all the time,

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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves. We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers. But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else. But never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication.

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