#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Roland rips #CandaceOwens' act at #REVOLTSummit; Future Act on the line; Dems obsess on white voters

Episode Date: September 18, 2019

9.16.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Roland dissects Candace Owens' act at the #REVOLTSummit; Black leaders demand Congress pass Future Act which would increase opportunities in STEM for HBCU students; De...ms obsessed on white voters, but what does that say about the African American electorate? Time dedicates it's entire magazine to climate change. How crucial is it right now? WTH?!? Felicity Huffman is sentenced to just 14 days in prison in college admissions scandal; Galveston showed up and showed out in support of the man who was arrested on horseback. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: Life Luxe Jazz Life Luxe Jazz is the experience of a lifetime, delivering top-notch music in an upscale destination. The weekend-long event is held at the Omnia Dayclub Los Cabos, which is nestled on the Sea of Cortez in the celebrity playground of Los Cabos, Mexico. For more information visit the website at lifeluxejazz.com. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org - Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, Roland Martin here. Over the weekend, the folks at Revolt had a summit that took place in Atlanta on that particular panel. It was a host of people who were on there, moderated by Jeff Johnson, including Katrina Peterson and Candace Owens, two Trump supporters, as well as Killer Mike and T.I. as well, and Tamika Mallory. And it was quite interesting because, first of all, a lot of people on social media were talking about it this weekend. This whole, you know, in terms of how everything panned out. And so I said, you know what? Let's chat about it. First off, though, I want to play you a portion of that conversation where things got a wee bit heated.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And because what I want to deal with is the issue. Do we really need to engage crazy black conservatives? You know, black conservatives who frankly have lost their minds and who really don't make any sense whatsoever, because I know lots of black conservatives, but I know I know a lot of them with brains. Unlike these two who are on the panel. Are you guys see my iPad right now? OK, are y'all. So here's an excerpt of that summit over the weekend. Different than the fear that Trump has created in poor whites. The fear that Trump has lifted in poor whites that black people and poor urban people are their problem.
Starting point is 00:05:40 When did Trump ever say that? That's a fallacy. When did Trump ever say black people are the problem? Make America great again. That's when he said it. Guys, that was Ronald Reagan's slogan. Was that racist when Ronald Slagan had it as a slogan? Yes, what time?
Starting point is 00:05:55 It was. Yes, let me ask you. Please answer this. Please answer this. I have a question. I have a question. Please just allow me just one outburst. Please.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I have a question. When you say make America great again, which period are we talking about? Please, please just allow me just one outburst. Please. I have a question. When you say make America great again, which period are we talking about? The period when women couldn't vote? The period when we were hanging from trees? I'll answer. Or like the crack era? Which period in America are you trying to make America like again? So I actually think that I would totally rock a hat right now that said make black America great again.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Because black America before... No, America. We're talking about make America... That wasn't the question. I am answering your question. Which period was America great that we're trying to replicate? Which era was it? Tell me. I think I'll answer your question.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Tell me. I'm going to answer your question. Which era was it? What? Which era was so great? Here's the thing that you guys are forgetting. America was actually one of the first... Slavery was all over the world. All over the world.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm not saying it's okay, so why are you saying oh? Amen. America was one of the first countries... I'm trying to answer your question, but I can't. I'm trying to answer your question. I want to be able to hear them. I want to be able to hear them. If I can't answer the question and I wanna like you so much. I wanna hear you. I wanna be able to hear them. If I can't answer the question and you're just gonna boo when I say
Starting point is 00:07:08 slavery was all over the world, which is a fact, why are you booing a fact? Because you're making light of... No, I'm not. You're making light of the enslavement of people that look like us. You can't make light of that. That ain't nothing you breeze over. I haven't even finished the sentence.
Starting point is 00:07:23 How am I making light of anything? You started with some bullshit. Okay. Alright, y'all. So, let me share a few thoughts. Okay?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Do I believe in Black America we need to have real, honest, truthful conversations on these issues between black conservatives and black progressives and black liberals and black independents. Yes, I do. But we must have these conversations
Starting point is 00:08:01 with real black conservatives, with black people who actually care about the black community. I'll give you an example. On this show, on my TV One show, News One Hour, Washington Watch, so going back to 2009, and actually my whole career, I have known a host of black conservatives. Alfonso Jackson, who was, of course, the HUD secretary under President George W. Bush. Michael Williams, who was, of course, the HUD secretary under President George W. Bush.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Michael Williams, who served under Reagan and Bush as well, was a former Texas Education Commissioner. You have former Congressman J.C. Watt. You have Elroy Saylor, who was his chief of staff. You have Angela Saylor, his wife, who's a number two at the Heritage Foundation. You have Kay Adams, Kay, of course, who is Kay Cole, who's over at the Heritage Foundation. I mean, I could go down the line. And let me just be real clear with y'all. Real black conservatives have no respect whatsoever for charlatans like Candace Owens and Katrina Pearson, because they know they're fraudulent. And see, the reality is, those two, they actually won't come to places like this and have real debates.
Starting point is 00:09:10 See, what they want is, they want that show. What they want is, they want the show to be on a stage with a killer mic or a TI in front of Diddy and Revolt, because, see, that's all they actually care about. They don't actually care about the black community. See, part of the problem here, and Killer Mike addressed it later,
Starting point is 00:09:32 and all the issues with him and the N-word and all of that, but I ain't gonna get into that. But part of the problem here is that when you hear people talk about, well, if you slamming Trump, that means you supporting Democrats. No, that means I you slamming Trump, that means you support Democrats. No, that means I'm slamming Trump. See, I have no respect for any black conservative who can't call out voter
Starting point is 00:09:51 suppression. I have no respect for any black conservative who can't recognize racial gerrymandering. I have no respect when you have black conservatives who don't want to be honest about exactly what's going on. See, even if you support Trump and you make an actual argument as to why you support Trump, all right, okay, that's fine. But then when you're unwilling to actually explain that and how it somehow helps the black community, it makes no sense to me. I mean, over the weekend, Mark Lamont Hill and others
Starting point is 00:10:23 were back and forth with actor Isaiah Washington, who said he's voting for Donald 45 because of his policies. They simply asked what policies benefit black people. And then he's like, well, while you call him out on Twitter, you should call me directly. They're like, well, because you posted on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:10:39 so we gonna ask you on Twitter. Kind of makes sense to me. See, what y'all need to understand, and again, I saw all this back and forth. All this back and forth on social media. Roland, man, you got to talk about it. Man, you got to see this whole deal. Y'all, I've been to those sort of
Starting point is 00:10:55 discussions before. And what they are designed, not for us. I dare say for Jeff and for Killer Mike and T.I. and Timmy Camallory, that panel wasn't about show and tell. It wasn't about entertainment. It wasn't about, oh man, we had that thing going. No, what it actually was about was entertainment. Because see, that's all they're interested in. They're not actually interested in doing things to improve black America. They want the show.
Starting point is 00:11:26 That's what it's all about. And so those of us who do this for a living, we know that game. We know it's all about the show. I remember I was on CNN in 2008 or so, and that was a black pastor who was, we were on together. And it was real interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:43 We were talking about Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. and some other stuff along those lines. And while I'm talking to you, I'm actually looking for it. And we got into it. And this black pastor was playing all kind of stuff. And, you know, he was just all hyped. Now, y'all, I knew it was fraudulent. I knew what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So you know what ended up happening? He then, in the green room, says, man, you know what, we need to get together and do this more because it's a whole lot of money out here. Did y'all hear what I said? It's a whole lot of money out here. Did y'all hear what I said? It's a whole lot of money out here. See, you have a group of black folks
Starting point is 00:12:33 on the conservative side that's what it's about. Let me just be real clear with y'all. If I chose with my skill set, with how I debate, with how I communicate, if I chose with my skill set, with how I debate, with how I communicate, if I chose to be a black, self-hating, slamming black people, touting a conservative agenda, I can tell you right now, I probably will be worth about $20 to $40 million.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Let me unpack that. I'll be worth that because that's what you really have going on here, folks. It's a game. And see, people like Katrina Pearson and people like Candace Owens have no interest in having real discussions with black people about actual policy because they would be exposed for their nonsense every single day. See, when you hear all the people right now talk about Trump and the First Step Act, okay, I'll give you an example. At best, it's about 7,000 people.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Some say upwards of 20,000 people are going to be impacted by the First Step Act. Nobody has given me a racial breakdown, so all 7,000 of the 20,000 are not African-American. But let's say it's 60% of the 7,000. All right, not a problem. Okay, so what are we talking about? 4,500 people, maybe about 5,000 people.
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's about it, right? You do realize that 90% of people who are in prison are on a state and local level? Now, when Donald Trump touts the First Step Act, when people like Candace Owens and Katrina Pearson tout the First Step Act, what they overlook, then they throw in, oh, look at black unemployment. Oh, look what he's done for HBCUs.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Here's what they won't say. They won't say how he wants to get rid of the Minority Supply Development Agency. They won't say how Jeff Sessions ordered federal prosecutors to forget the Eric Holder era rules and prosecute to the highest levels. They won't mention
Starting point is 00:14:43 Trump reinstated private prisons on a federal levels. They won't mention Trump reinstated private prisons on a federal level. They won't mention the Department of Justice said we don't want to have any consent decrees. They tried to get out of the one in Baltimore and out of the one in Chicago. They won't mention any of those things. They won't mention the fact that the Department of Justice has done nothing when it comes to enforcing the Voting Rights Act and really dealing with the whole issue of police misconduct all across this country. They won't mention the fact that under the Department of HUD and in Health and Human Services and in Commerce
Starting point is 00:15:14 and in every federal agency, they're rolling back civil rights protections and all of those. So while people like Candace Owens and Katrina Pearson and supporters like that might mention one or two things, I'll over here list 10, 12 things that are detrimental
Starting point is 00:15:31 to black folks. They won't address those things. What I need y'all to understand is, and a lot of y'all, and trust me, I've challenged Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens to debate anytime, anywhere, and in fact, and trust me, I've challenged Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens to debate anytime, anywhere. And in fact, Alveda King,
Starting point is 00:15:48 I ran into her daughter, I think, in Atlanta at the Rolling Out Summit I was at where she said she wants to put this thing together. I said, boo, they not gonna debate a brother like me because see, they can't handle this level of heat. I ain't gonna bring smoke. I'm gonna bring heat, okay? What they want to do is they want the show.
Starting point is 00:16:12 What a Candace wants to do is repeat the same two or three or four talking points. And you heard T.I. say, you know, I want to like you because you're smart. She actually is not smart. She's really not. Because, in fact, I've had black conservatives who have told me, she's called them and said,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't know much about this policy stuff. Y'all need to know when you're getting played. Y'all need to know when somebody is trying to play the game and gaming you and who they really gaming are those dumb white conservatives who keep throwing money at them, saying, that's it, that's it, we found our black one. Because the reality is, and y'all, and I've seen this,
Starting point is 00:16:52 white conservatives have no issue throwing money at black people who are going to say nasty things about black people and tell us, get off the plantation and tired of sitting here being somebody's ambassador. We all know the game. and tell us get off the plantation and tired of sitting here being somebody's ambassador. We all know the game. And so if y'all enjoyed the conversation, that's great. If you were entertained by it all, that's great. Were there things in that conversation that are worth us talking about and exploring?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Absolutely. But if we're going to do this, let's do it with people who are at the table, who are real, who are substantive, who know what the hell they're talking about, and who are not just trying to sit here and say stupid stuff because it's all about how can I say the craziest thing and keep getting those checks rolling in
Starting point is 00:17:39 the same way Larry Elder has done, the same way Deneen Borelli has done, the same way Jesse Lee Peterson has done, and I can go on and on, and hell, I can name for y'all some of the black people who were liberals who flipped to the conservative side thinking they were gonna cash in, and guess what? They even got exposed, even conservatives were like,
Starting point is 00:17:58 okay, yeah, some of y'all are frauds. Game, recognize game. And I just want y'all to understand that. Joining us right now, of course, is Teresa Lundy, principal founder of TML Communications, Dr. Avis Jones, the Weaver Political Analyst, as well as Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor, environmental justice EPA.
Starting point is 00:18:17 See, initially I was not going to talk about this, but I need to talk about this because, again, I think, and what happens is, and I get it, and I get it with that crowd, how they responded and, you know, people sitting here, they were jumping up and they were talking about what went on, but I need them to understand what the game is. Because I'll show you, I'm going to advance it here, and after T.I. made his comment,
Starting point is 00:18:45 uh, go to my iPad. I want y'all just to watch the crowd. Why are you doing a fact? Because you're making light of... No, I'm not. You're making light of the enslavement... I haven't gotten to my point. I'm not making... ...of people that look like us.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You can't make light of that. That ain't nothing you breeze over. I haven't even finished the sentence. How am I making light of anything? You started with some light of that. That ain't nothing you breeze over. I haven't even finished the sentence. How am I making light of anything? You started with some bullshit. Okay. Teresa, that's what they want. They want the show.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And they want to be able to go back to their white conservative friends, see, we went into the enemy territory and you said how saw how we got treated and how the audience are all against us this is a game they are not serious about the black community i think it's two parts of that i think that entire revolt summit because i also watched it it, right? And I think my... And I'm glad you started off with that commentary because it was so important. Because when we started talking about
Starting point is 00:19:51 what makes sense for the black agenda and black America and for those who really don't understand what politics or government actually looks like outside of listening to T.I.'s lyrics or Killer Mike, and they're just, you know, listening to the impoverished lyrics, but they're not listening to some of the elected leaders who are coming forth with legislation and different plans. I think more so this panel should have more so touched on the entire detrimental facts that affects black people, right?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Because a lot of people don't know, you know, some of those cause and effects. And if they did, I do believe the conversations will be greater. And a woman like Candace Owens wouldn't be able to go to a revolt summit and say, well, I can't really talk about what Trump did because... No, they can't. I mean, Mustafa, they can't. I mean, Mustafa, they can't talk about the environmental dangers. You can't talk about
Starting point is 00:20:48 how he's destroyed the USDA. They can't talk about the scientists who have left. And again, let me be clear. I'm not criticizing the summit. Revolt should be doing it. I'm not even criticizing having the conversation.
Starting point is 00:21:00 What I'm saying is, because let me also be clear. Y'all heard me say on this show, we as black people have to have alliances among black conservatives, because if you have in the case right now, Dems control the House, Republicans control the Senate. All right. The reality is in a moment, I'm going to be talking with Congresswoman Alma Adams, who is the co-founder of the HBCU caucus, who is the co-chair of that with the Republican in North Carolina, whose wife is a graduate of Winston-Salem State. So let me be real clear. In states across this country, Republicans control the governor's mansion, the House and the Senate. Black folks, we are constituents. We need to be having relationships on that side
Starting point is 00:21:46 because there are going to be issues where we do agree, but we have to work with folks on the other aisle. What I am saying is there are a host of real black conservatives in this country who actually talk to black people, who actually sit with black people, but
Starting point is 00:22:02 you have folks like these two, they ain't there to talk with black people, okay? They're not trying to actually, how do we find common ground with black people, but you have folks like these two, they ain't they don't talk with black people, okay? They're not trying to actually, how do we find common ground with black people? Their whole deal is, how loud and wild how loud and wild can I be in trumpeting Trump to get folks all mad and excited and then
Starting point is 00:22:18 go back to their safe white spaces and say, ooh, see what happened when we went there? They're not serious, actually, about our community. Exactly. You know, I've worked with black conservatives on policy, you know, those who are serious. So you've got that set of folks. But you also have a set of folks that we're talking about who invest in and who support buffoonery. And they like these types of things because it takes people away from the actual impacts that are happening inside of their lives they want a reaction from you so imagine if that sister said
Starting point is 00:22:52 those type whatever she was trying to say and folks were educated in the audience there probably were educated people who were there absolutely but if folks understood the basic the top five or seven things you need to know around housing, around transportation, around the fact of unemployment. So it's always interesting when we talk about this full employment, but then when you unpack that and you see the types of jobs that your people are actually getting and that they've got to work two or sometimes three jobs just to make it to the basic lines, it changes the dynamic of that conversation. And that's what we have to get to. I appreciate the fact that you are always talking about folks need to get educated so that when you utilize your vote, it can actually be directed in a positive place that can make change happen. So that's why I don't
Starting point is 00:23:35 even get down. You know, people will sell their souls for a few shillings. We've heard that, you know, growing up. And this is just another reflection of how they continue to do that. Again, uh, uh, what you're dealing with here is you're dealing with the show. The show is one thing. Serious things, Avis, is another. And there are black women who I'm sure in the Black Women's Roundtable y'all work with
Starting point is 00:24:01 who are black conservatives. Absolutely. Who are real on policy. These two are not real. No, no. And this types of these types of incidents expose that greatly. I mean, I would have been interested. I didn't watch the whole thing. So I've only seen this clip a few times. I would be interested. Did she ever answer that question? Because even where she was going with that partial answer didn't make sense in that, yes, you had the transatlantic slave trade that encompassed a lot of the Caribbean,
Starting point is 00:24:33 North America, South America. But guess what? America was one of the last, if not the last, nation to end slavery. So I don't even understand why she was going in that direction. And our form was a lot different from other people as well. It was very different in terms of, you know, it was maternally passed down from generation to generation. Our form of slavery was unique and distinctive and especially brutal. And so I don't even know where she... She didn't even know where she was going with that answer.
Starting point is 00:24:54 That was no example of America being great. Let's just put that on the table. So, you know, I would just be interested in knowing where she would have ended up with that. It shows her ignorance. But at the end of the day, what you're saying is absolutely true. This is about her being able to get clips like this
Starting point is 00:25:13 that go viral so that she can go back to the white folks who are paying her to say, look what I did, now give me some more money. Because that's really what it's about. And again, I want the audience to understand those of us who have covered these stories for years, we know the game. Y'all, we can see them coming. I'm telling
Starting point is 00:25:34 you, I've debated them who will pull you to the side and essentially say, let's take this thing on the road. Because it's all for a money grab. As opposed to those of us who are real about this, who are going, yo, I'm not trying to sit
Starting point is 00:25:49 here and roll with you, because that's the deal. And in fact, that's actually the minstrel show. All right? That's why I call out Diamond and Silk. That's a minstrel show. When you see the comedian, Terrence Williams, that's a minstrel show. That's not about what's the comedian? Terrence Williams. That's a minstrel show. That's
Starting point is 00:26:06 not about policy. It's a C.J. Pearson running his little mouth. Same thing, okay? What you're dealing with is you're not dealing with people who are serious, all right? There are black conservatives who I know, who I've interviewed, who I've covered, who are involved in education, who all are involved in housing in different areas, and we might disagree on things, and they abhor voter suppression as some of the things that they do. You want to talk about somebody like a black Republican?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Michael Steele's been on this show and talked about how he got treated when he was chairman of the Republican National Committee where they literally had a meeting in Speaker Boehner's office and told him, look, we don't need you talking policy. We got that. You don't focus on policy.
Starting point is 00:26:52 He's like, wait a minute, what the hell? I'm the chair of the Republican National Committee. Did you tell the last chair to don't discuss policy? It literally told Michael Steele, look, just go on over here. We got this. And then tried to change the rules where he couldn't spend any, he had to get permission to spend money over $5,000.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Wow. Oh, yeah. Michael told me. In fact, y'all, they were so foul in 2012 at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Reince Priebus, they had an event honoring previous Republican National Committee chairs and didn't even invite Michael Steele.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Didn't even give him credentials to the convention. He had to get his credentials through MSNBC. Just so y'all understand. And she talking about Plantation. Just so y'all understand. So what I'm trying to explain to y'all is, again, when you see people like this here, it's all about the show. Now, you might say, well, Roland, why would you want to debate Candace Owens?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Because I believe you expose fraudulent folk at all times. Because, see, when light hits darkness, darkness gets exposed. Y'all, they don't want real debates because they can't handle real conversation. They can't handle somebody who's going to be calm and not yelling and dropping facts on them and bringing real information. If they have to answer no,
Starting point is 00:28:17 what they desire is for us to play the game. So just so y'all understand that, the reality is that in this world, there are two political parties, Republicans and Democrats. The reality is we as black people have to be working on black interests. And that might mean working with Democrats
Starting point is 00:28:36 or working with Republicans. That might mean opposing Democrats and opposing Republicans. I'm not against Republicans. What I am are against buffoonery coming out of the black Republican side. One of the issues where Republicans have at least been
Starting point is 00:28:51 decent on is the support of HBCUs. Tomorrow there's a huge vote that's coming up in Congress, in the House, that's dealing with, it's called the Education Act or Future Sponsored. Actually, let me read the whole thing here. It's called the Education Act or Future. Actually, let me read the whole thing here. It's actually fostering undergraduate talent by unlocking resources for Education Act,
Starting point is 00:29:11 called the Future Act, sponsored by Congresswoman Alma Adams. And so I'm going to talk with her right now about this. Now, Congresswoman Adams, welcome back to Roller Martin Unfiltered. Thank you, Roland. I'm enjoying your show. Well, I appreciate it. Here's a piece here. Because of how this bill is going to come forward tomorrow, it doesn't require a majority vote because Democrats have those votes. When I talked this morning to Michael Lomax of the UNCF on the Tom Jonah Morning Show, on a morning show. He said it requires a two-thirds vote, which means the need for Republican support for this bill that would have about $85 million going to HBCUs. Right. Well, actually, this particular bill will maintain the $255 million a year for two years for HBCUs and all minority serving institutions. This money is will be available to support the needs that students have funding STEM
Starting point is 00:30:17 curriculum as well. So it's going to go away on September 30th if we don't get the Future Act passed. And as you said, it is fostering undergraduate talent by unlocking resources for education. And when you think about our HBCUs, and I taught 40 years on HBCU campus, Bennett College. I'm a two-time graduate of North Carolina A&T. And I know the needs that our students have. Many of them, almost all of them, are first generation. And so this is a number one priority for all MSIs in the country. So we can do this, and we do have – it is bipartisan.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So hopefully we will be able to get it through tomorrow. I'll be debating this bill at 5 o'clock. This bill will be up on the floor. So I'll be coming back from North Carolina in the morning. You talk about it being bipartisan. You heard me make that point because the co-chair of the HBCU caucus is a white Republican from North Carolina whose wife went to Winston-Salem State, correct? Well let me first the co-chair is Bradley Byrne who is a white Republican from Alabama. My co-chair on the bipartisan HBCU internship is Mark Walker from North Carolina but he's also a member of the caucus.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So, yeah, we all work together to try to make sure that these students get what they need. And, in fact, I think the two of you were on my TV One show, and isn't he the one whose wife went to Winston-Salem State? That, you are exactly right. And the reason I'm saying that is because this is what I'm talking about when I'm trying to unpack this thing,
Starting point is 00:32:06 when you have to have Republican support. One of the things, Congresswoman Adams, that I try to explain to people, like, for instance, CBCF was this weekend. And the reality is not every black person is represented by a CBC member. There are African-Americans who are living in districts that Republicans, they are either in the House or you have Republican senators. And so we as African Americans have to say we are constituents and they need to hear from us, our phone calls, our emails, our letters, if you steal fax or whatever, because we are still constituents. Absolutely, absolutely. But But you know, Roland,
Starting point is 00:32:46 also because of all of the redistricting and the gerrymandering that's gone on, many of our HBCUs are in Republican districts. So we all have and should have an interest in making sure that these schools not only survive, but that they thrive. We contribute $15 billion a year to the economy. So HBCUs, we're not slouching. 47% of our engineers come from historically black colleges and universities. More than 50% of students that get undergraduate degrees that look like me and you, HBCU grads.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So, you know, we need to make sure that our schools have what they need. And we've got to bring some parity to this process because it has not been. Where do you want people to call? The vote's tomorrow. You've got to get two-thirds votes. Where should they be calling tomorrow to tell the member of the House, vote for this bill? All right. Well, they should be calling all of the Republican members.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I think that that will be helpful, particularly those on the Education Committee, on the higher education committee as well. But if they're Republicans in your state, you need to get after them, give them a call. And this is the right thing to do. They need to support this bill because by doing that, they're supporting these hundreds of thousands of students. The bill is already already paid for so it's not gonna really cost cost anything it's even supported uh by the white house i mean at least we we uh we've heard that and uh i want to we're going to see we don't want folks just talking to talk they need to walk the walk and it's not uh what you say but it's what you do. All right, Congresswoman, all my albums folks listening call this. This is the number to call 202-224-3121. 202-224-3121. That's the main number to the U.S. Capitol switchboard.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Before you do that, I want you to also go online. You can put in your zip code and then they will tell you exactly who is your member of Congress. So when you call and say, hi, I'm so-and-so, I am one of your constituents. I want you to vote. I want my member to vote for the Future Act. That's what I need all of y'all to do. Okay. And share it on social media as well. The number is 202-224-3121. Congresswoman Alma Adams, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you so much, Roland. You keep up the good work.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Will do. Thank you very much. All right, folks, going to a break. When we come back on Roland Martin Unfiltered, got more good stuff for you. You know how we do. We keep it black, keep it real. Back in a moment.
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Starting point is 00:37:27 Get in the game and get in the game now. Folks, the 2020 election is next year. Democrats, of course, are trying to get as many votes as possible. Of course, we have the first caucus in Iowa and then we're going to have folks voting in New Hampshire, Nevada, California, Georgia, Florida, all across the country. And one of the things that we kept hearing after 2016 is, oh, my goodness, what must the Democrats do to win these disaffected white voters? What is it going to take to win these rural white voters? But do y'all realize that since 1976, Democrats ain't won the white vote? Do you hear what I say? They have not won the white vote.
Starting point is 00:38:11 See, part of the problem when you have this conversation is, like, right now, there are people who have been saying that, oh, Democrats, they got to sit here and nominate Joe Biden because Joe Biden, he can really go after those Democratic votes that take place there in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And he can bring them back. Except that's not really the case. Show this graphic here. Leah Daltrey, of course, she actually put this graphic up on social media. And folks, the numbers don't lie. 2012, Obama got 39% of the white vote. 2008, he got 43% of the white vote. 2004, John Kerry got 41% of the white vote. Al Gore got 42% of the white vote.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Bill Clinton got 44% of the white vote. 39% of the white vote. Bill Clinton got 44% of the white vote. 39% of the white vote in 1992. In 1988, Dukakis got 40% of the white vote. Walter Mondale, 34% of the white vote. And if you look at, of course, Jimmy Carter, the highest, 49% of the white vote. That was 1976. So the reality, Avis,
Starting point is 00:39:28 is if Democrats want to win, the reality is you don't win by... Like, there's a liberal group, a liberal pack, who wants to raise $50 million to try to go flip Trump voters in rural America. Complete waste of $50 million. Right. We saw Hillary Clinton in 2016,
Starting point is 00:39:48 her campaign throwing millions trying to flip white Republican women in the suburbs. The reality is, if Democrats win, you win by getting 39, 40% of the white vote and putting your money and having turnout among black voters, Latino voters, Asian voters. When you talk about Jewish voters, people who have the coalition of voters, that's how you win. You ain't flipping Trump people. No, you're not. It's a complete waste
Starting point is 00:40:20 of money, complete waste of time. What I find very interesting about that particular chart in particular, if you look at the proportion of whites who supported the Democratic candidate, you had both the last campaign of Obama getting 39% of the vote, as well as Bill Clinton getting 39% of the vote for one of his elections. But the interesting thing is that was when there was a third party. Right. Right? The third person running. So what's interesting is- We'll grab it back up while Avis is talking. Go ahead. So what's interesting is... We'll grab it back up while Avis is talking. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So when you had just a two-man race between Mitt Romney and Obama, Obama only got 39% of the white vote and he still won. Won. And how did he win? He won by maximizing the rising coalition
Starting point is 00:40:58 of black and brown people. And another thing that I think is important for people to realize that, yes, if you maximize the vote, the black vote, number one, the real reason why he won was the black vote. I really believe that
Starting point is 00:41:09 oftentimes people over-exaggerate, to be perfectly frank, the impact of the brown vote. So let's get real about that, too. Well, and actually, truth be told, though, he didn't maximize. See, first of all, maximize means we were voting 85% or more of all available voters.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So I'll look at Harold Washington. Right. When Harold Washington ran in Chicago, the reason Harold Washington ran, because 85% or more of eligible and registered African Americans voted. Exactly. The problem is we saw it, of course. We see it where it might, in some places, it's 40 or 50 or 57 or 60 or 61, 65.
Starting point is 00:41:51 The reality is, in South Carolina, if black people maximize the vote in South Carolina, they could actually elect Democrats and not Republicans in South Carolina. Absolutely. In Mississippi. Espy only lost by around 60,000 to 70,000 votes. We pulled the numbers.
Starting point is 00:42:13 The number of black people and poor white folks who didn't vote was double the margin, which is why Reverend Barbara keeps saying, Mustafa, you have to mobilize, organize, and register disaffected, poor whites, rural black folks, Latinos as well. That's the margin of victory, not trying to throw all this money at some white voters in the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Right. They need to focus on building the capacity and the folks, you know, it's that old adage that says, make sure you stay with the person who brought you to the dance. So, you know, we got 90 percent of our folks, 88 percent of men, 92 percent of women who vote Democratic. But yet we still won't put the money into the organizations that are on the ground that could help to move those numbers up. And we know that in many races across the country that sometimes it's just a thousand folks or two thousand folks that could make a huge difference. But folks still have this. I don't know what it is, why they won't invest in the organizations that actually can help to
Starting point is 00:43:16 mobilize that. Which means, Teresa, that what has to happen. And again, this is where we gotta be honest, what has to happen is we gotta have black folks, okay, who stop talking that talk, but literally step up and say, I'm going to commit my dollars to maximize black turnout. That means, and I'm not talking, and see, let me be real clear, a lot of y'all watching,
Starting point is 00:43:48 because I can already see your little post on Periscope and Twitter and Facebook and YouTube where if our black celebrities and all the rich black folks would just give a million dollars, when the reality is
Starting point is 00:44:03 the average donation for Bernie Sanders in 2016 was $28. No. What this requires for folks who are watching to say, I'm going to send money to Melanie Campbell's group, National Coalition of Black Civic Participation. I'm going to send money to the black groups that are out there that are going door to door,
Starting point is 00:44:23 mobilizing people. The folks like DeJuan Gibson and B-Woke. Uh, uh, Adrian Shropshire, Higher Heights, all the people. They are, frankly, having to go beg white donors... Yes. ...as opposed to black folks saying, wait a minute, we should collectively be able to... to send $10 and $20 and $30 and raise $2, $3, $5, $10 million.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Now we are in control of the money and the whole apparatus and not, frankly, having some white progressives telling us what to do with it. I feel like, so I... Part of our business is that we specialize in campaigns, right? And so working on local and federal campaigns, I've noticed a trend where you'll have the candidates running.
Starting point is 00:45:09 They will do the outreach to one African-American and then that one African-American pretty much is supposed to have the ties to all African-Americans. And so that white consultant then gives that white consultant then begets $20,000 and $30,000 for that outreach. And yet some of those dollars that was going to them does not translate into what should be going on for the local level and for the ground level support. So, yes, I do believe the candidates need to get engaged. But I also think for some candidates that are running, they need to be taking up those fundraising apparatuses where they're charging $2, you know, doing the Bernie Sanders type of campaign where they're getting momentum over time.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But see, I think, and I get it, I've been highly critical over the years, Avis, when it comes to these campaigns. But what I'm talking about is there has to be an independent... Look, just like when I talk about people wanting to support this show, the reality
Starting point is 00:46:14 is CNN and MSNBC and Fox News and the rest of them, they will never, they will never do what we do. They will never out They will never do what we do. Right. They will never out-black us.
Starting point is 00:46:29 They will never... Right. Like, I get it. Folks excited when they see Angela Rye and April Ryan and Bakari Sellers and Andrew Gillum on CNN's morning show. We do black panels every day. It ain't no special thing for us.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But my point is, we have to have a well-funded, independent, black turnout organization where we understand where our people are and we're not beholden
Starting point is 00:47:04 to one entity that might be sitting in D.C. or sitting in Virginia or in somebody's campaign office saying, nah, we're not going to put money over here. I remember in 2016, there were people who were scoffing at Donna Brazile when she had put some money in black media in Chicago. And so this is what the white folks were saying. What the hell is that? Why put some money in black media in Chicago. And so this is what the white folks were saying.
Starting point is 00:47:25 What the hell is that? Why we put money in black media in Chicago? Because we've got, you know, look, I mean, you know, we got Illinois locked down. No fool. Because black people in Chicago know black people in North Carolina. Yeah. And know black people in Wisconsin. And know black people in Pennsylvania. And no black people in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And no black people next door in Michigan. See, that's part of the deal there. So, these white consultants, these white pollsters, don't know black people. And so it's like, well, we ain't gonna spend money over there. We'll throw beer. Absolutely. Let me break down the
Starting point is 00:48:01 business of this, because I'm gonna carry on what you just introduced to folks. This is a billion-dollar industry. People need to understand, this is a multi-billion-dollar business that we're talking about. Let's just, first of all, be real about that. And the way this business works is that they hire these white firms,
Starting point is 00:48:20 and they give them multi-million-dollar contracts in order to supposedly reach out to communities of color. And then from the multi-million dollar contracts, they may get a couple hundred thousand dollars that they subcontract to a black person to do the work. They are getting 98%
Starting point is 00:48:37 of the money for doing damn it, nothing. Let's just really sort of uncover what's going on here. And for folks't understand is the reason they want to put all the money in TV is because the consultant gets a cut of a TV ad
Starting point is 00:48:54 buy. So when they say, no, TV, TV, TV, because they don't want to put money on boots on the ground because they don't get a cut of the boots on the ground. They get a percentage of the media ad buys. Of which they can privately negotiate and
Starting point is 00:49:10 not tell the client how much they're taking out as long as it's placed. And those same white boys will get the million dollar contracts over and over and over again, even when their candidates lose. We see it all the time. They don't care about maximizing the black vote. They care about maximizing their check, all right?
Starting point is 00:49:27 Let's just really be real about that. And so that's why what you're saying is so important, because if we really care about our community and maximizing our power, we have to do it ourselves. Because the traditional people that are making these decisions don't really give a damn about that. What they really care about is being able to be able to have that sort of multimillion dollar Traditional people that are making these decisions don't really give a damn about that.
Starting point is 00:49:53 What they really care about is being able to be able to have that sort of multimillion dollar house, be able to ride around in whatever they want to ride around in. And meantime, they're not doing the work because they're not invested in doing the work. But you talked about the important part is that we have to realize that we have power. We have to realize that, you know, we are a trillion dollar economy in ourselves. Yes. And how we utilize our dollars can actually change this paradigm, can change the dynamics. And sometimes we forget that. So we've got to invest in ourselves. So so one of the things that we're going to do and again, this is what happens when it's your shit. You don't have to ask. One of the things that I'm going to do here is we're going to feature
Starting point is 00:50:34 the black organizations who are all about maximizing the vote on the ground so folks know who they are, they can understand where they're targeting people, and then if they want to give, support them. Because the reality is we should be thinking in terms... We should be thinking in terms of raising...
Starting point is 00:50:58 Black people collectively should be thinking about raising anywhere from $1010 to $20 million on black-specific organizations who are about voter turnout. Now, why do I say that? And again, I see all the comments. Well, are you trying to get us to vote Democrat? So let's see.
Starting point is 00:51:25 There are two political parties in America. There is the Republican Party, and there is the Democratic Party. At one time, you've had efforts to have a third party. Yes, I'm aware of the Green Party. Show me how many of their candidates have won. The last successful third party we had was the Ross Perot-funded Reform Party.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Jesse Ventura happened to be elected governor of Minnesota under the Reform Party. That party no longer exists, and if it does, it's nothing. So, I'm accepting the reality that there are two political parties, Republican Party and Democratic Party. Now, if I'm looking at these two parties, I have to ask a very basic and simple question. And that is, which of these two parties, looking up and down the list, not one or two, not three or four, but I'm talking about in the categories of education,
Starting point is 00:52:29 finance of HBCUs, police reform, criminal justice reform, environment, agriculture, I can go down a whole line which of these two parties is more likely to be speaking to the interests of black people. I am not saying that one is so amazing, others horrible.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Both got issues. But what I do know is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. Enough said. Donald Trump has appointed nearly 90% white, male, far-right federal judges for life
Starting point is 00:53:21 who do not believe in civil rights, who won't, most of them won't even say that Brown versus Board of Education was properly adjudicated by Supreme Court. They are all, they are pro-business, they're anti-consumer, and they're anti-labor. So ask yourself the question, black person, what side are you on?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Now, groups that are out there trying to get people to vote, I mean, nonpartisan groups, the reality is I'm not going to tell you how to vote. I'm going to tell you, look at both, and to me, it looks like this.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That's the Republican Party. That's the Democratic Party. Because when I was at the CBC caucus, there's only two black Republicans in Congress. Tim Scott, South Carolina, Will Hurd, Texas in the House. Will Hurd, he leaving. It's going to be just Scott, the lonely black Republican.
Starting point is 00:54:21 55 members of the Congressional Black Caucus. 55 black, 55 Democrat. Now, we have to have this because when Avis talked about maximizing the vote, y'all, and we're going to do more teaching on this because, Mustafa, that's what we have to have here. We got to teach people to get them to understand what's going on this. Because, Mustafa, that's what we have to have here. We got to teach people to get them to understand
Starting point is 00:54:48 what's going on here. The numbers don't lie. If black people maximize their vote in Georgia, Abrams is governor. I know about voter suppression. I know about the voting sites. I'm talking about the number of black people who are either registered and who didn't vote
Starting point is 00:55:12 or those who are eligible to be registered and who don't vote. We as black people, if white folks vote the same way they've been voting, can literally flip the South. The numbers are right there. The numbers don't lie, which is why, Teresa, Republicans are so hell-bent on switching voting locations,
Starting point is 00:55:34 closing polling locations, now trying Tennessee, where Kristen Clark and the Law Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law beat back the effort to delay the law there where they want to penalize criminally people who actually are registering people to vote. If you got one small infraction, if black people did not
Starting point is 00:55:55 vote the way they did in North Carolina for Obama, where he won by 14,100 votes in 2008, you would not see the level of voter suppression in North Carolina. And y'all want to know how nasty it is? Today, they have the video of a Republican, a white
Starting point is 00:56:12 Republican, walking into the room and seeing how his map would look and then how he went in and tried to split his district to push the black... Y'all, they got the video. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:27 They got the video to push the black people into the Democrat district. He got busted. They wouldn't change the map and immediately announced he was retiring and wouldn't run again. Because he knew if the district was drawn fairly,
Starting point is 00:56:43 he was going to lose. And so, to me, we have got to say, no, no, no. We ain't waiting on the Democratic National Committee or the DCCC or DSCC or the emulator's list, Democratic Governors Association. Black people are going to have to invest in black voter registration to turn out our people because if, and I'm going to tell y'all again,
Starting point is 00:57:11 and I want y'all to comment on it, if Donald Trump gets four more years, that means at the end of eight years, the courts alone, he will likely have appointed 400 federal judges who will be there for life,
Starting point is 00:57:33 and they only want judges who are between 35 and 45 years old, so they can be on those courts for 40 to 50 years. That's what black folks had better be voting against next year. And even locally, like, so, outside in Philly,
Starting point is 00:57:53 there is, so, as much as a lifetime appointment it is federally, so, locally, we have judges that run for election every 10 years. Well, no, every four-year election cycle, but they run for a ten-year term. And the amount of education that's around what judges are running
Starting point is 00:58:14 and what type of cases they prosecuted and if they are for African Americans, you'd be surprised how many African Americans do not know who these judges are, their background, their cases. And thus, when these folks get on the bench and you wonder, you know, God forbid, something happens to a family member or themselves,
Starting point is 00:58:34 and they have to go be approached in front of that judge, the verdict that comes down. And so most of the money, because, you know, most, they come from being attorneys, they have a whole bunch of money, right? And I'm telling the money, because, you know, most they come from being attorneys, they have a whole bunch of money. Right. And I'm telling you this story because the way it is locally is the same way nationally. Local candidates, if they're running for a legislative office, they have a little bit of funding, but more so they have relationships. Judges have no relationships. You know, those who aspire to be judges have no relationships.
Starting point is 00:59:09 All they have is a whole bunch of money. They throw it to the black folks. They put them on their ballot. And what I'm saying is it's the ignorance of that. Also, you know, that gets more scrutiny as we talk about like, you know, what the African-American view is. Yeah, absolutely. But in terms of going back to the federal bench, you know, what the African-American view is legally. Yeah, absolutely. But in terms of going back to the federal bench, you know, this is really critical. I think it's important that people understand this is how they encapsulate white minority rule for the next century. Let's just be clear about what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:59:40 What's happening right now is they see the demographic shifts of this nation. And so they're trying to figure out how can we maintain power when we become a minority. That is the strategy. Absolutely. What we have going on right now is the majority of babies born in America right now are already non-white. So they know that the clock is ticking. And they're trying to figure out what can we do to make sure that we have control.
Starting point is 01:00:05 If they have the Supreme Court, if they have all of the federal courts, even if you have things going your direction at the local level, all they have to do is appeal it, and then they can have their boys roll everything back. This is how you encase white minority rule for the rest of our lifetimes and the rest of our children's lifetime.
Starting point is 01:00:26 This is what's at stake. That's exactly right. We've seen it play out and we've talked about it before on the show. All you have to do is look at South Africa and how the apartheid system was put in place so that people could hold on to power. So we're talking about federal judges, but we also have to also have a conversation about district attorneys, we have to have a conversation about sheriffs and police chiefs and mayors, and this is why your vote is so incredibly important because it is all wrapped up. And once you enter into this system, the system is set up currently to help some people and to cause some real harm to other people. And if you are not
Starting point is 01:01:03 willing to invest your vote, if you're not willing to get registered, make sure you have the right IDs that we have to deal with right now, help get people to the polls and then vote and then stay engaged in the process, then you get what you're going to get because these folks are not having your best interest at heart. So if you want an apartheid system, then don't vote. But if you actually want real change to happen in our country, then you got to get up off the couch. And here's what I often say, because this frustrates the hell out of me. People will go and stand in line to get into a club or to get into a show for hours. They will spend an incredible amount of money. And I ain't taking anything away from the incredible
Starting point is 01:01:39 folks who are artists and entertainers. We should support that. But you should also support with your bodies and your time and your resources helping to make your communities better. Uh, let me say it again. When you... when we fund our organizations of auto-mobilization, it happen... the result is what happens locally and nationally. Those of y'all who weren't born in 1984, 1988, Reverend Jackson registered two million largely black people when he ran for office.
Starting point is 01:02:18 That's how Richard Shelby became a Democratic United States senator from Alabama. Now, he rewarded those folks, but later flipped it to the Republican Party, and he's still a Republican. But the reality is this, and I've met these folks, there were black people who, for the first time, were elected to city councils, sheriffs, mayors, county commissioners,
Starting point is 01:02:43 state reps, and state senators all across the country from the Southeast to the South to the Midwest. I met black people who were elected in California for the first time because Reverend Jackson ran because black folks were registered and turned out. There was a nearly 3% drop in black turnout in 2016. Some say that's one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton lost. I ain't putting that on black people.
Starting point is 01:03:14 But the reality is this. If you were young and black, if you were middle-aged and black, if you were old and black, first of all, I ain't worried about the old black people. They vote. I'm talking about all y'all sorry asses who are 18 to 55.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Because 55 plus, they vote. They'll tell you in a heartbeat. But I'm telling you right now, and I'm warning people, I don't want to have to be using hashtag we tried to tell you against black people. The plan, if you think Stephen Miller has targeted people of color on immigration
Starting point is 01:03:54 in the last two and a half years, watch what happens if they get four more. If you think that this Trump Department of Justice has coddled police departments since he won, oh, you don't want to see what will happen if he gets four more years. I'm telling you, it's abundantly clear what's going on.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Black people are going to have to fund our own voter registration efforts and not wait on white philanthropists, white donors, and the Democratic Party. We are going to demand that they put the money where it's supposed to go. But we also got to be able to have our own infrastructure to make it happen,
Starting point is 01:04:42 just like we got to have our own media to make it happen, just like we've got to have our own media to make it happen. Because if we wait for them, it ain't wonder why it's 57% turnout. That's on us. And I'm telling you right now, I see what Trump's folks are doing. And this thing gonna be ugly. And what they even say in terms of this white agenda,
Starting point is 01:05:03 y'all, that's real. Because they see the demographic changes happening and everything they're doing is all about 2043. 2043. That's what the concern is. Going to a break. I'll be right back in just a moment. You want to support Roland Martin Unfiltered? Be sure to join our Bring the Funk fan club. Every dollar that you give to us supports our daily digital show. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real. As Roland Martin Unfiltered support the Roland Martin Unfiltered daily digital show by going to RolandMartinUnfiltered.com.
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Starting point is 01:07:27 lifeluxjazz.com I'm going to be there. It's going to be a fantastic time. I can't wait to go see all those amazing performances every single night, folks. It's going to be somebody performing. It's just going to be fantastic. So go to lifeluxjazz.com. We'd love to see you there. Then you can come celebrate
Starting point is 01:07:42 my 51st birthday a little bit early. And trust me, we're going to have a good time because y'all know I'm going to dance. I don't drink, but I'm going to dance. I'm going to play golf. We're going to have a good time. So love to see you at lifeluckjazz.com. All right, folks, let's talk about Felicity Huffman.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Of course, she was one of the actresses caught up in the pay-to-play scandal, buying their way for the kids to get into college. She pled guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud after admitting to paying $15,000 to have a proctor correct her daughter's SAT scores to improve her overall score. That's her photo? That ain't look like her?
Starting point is 01:08:20 I think that was her. That look? Yeah, that's her. She just had a bad day. She must have had some work done. Okay, I'm just saying. For her crimes, she was sentenced to 14 days. A lot of people talk about, of course,
Starting point is 01:08:32 the black woman who was homeless who got hit with five years in jail. And don't forget Kelly Bollard-Williams who also went through the same thing in Ohio. Okay, now here's the deal, Mustafa. There's people out there who are saying that, well, we shouldn't be calling for her to get longer jail time because,
Starting point is 01:08:49 you know, what's fair is she really shouldn't be going to jail. Other people shouldn't be going to jail. Mm-hmm. I don't even know how to respond. I'm gonna tell y'all how I feel. Okay? I get all that. Okay? I get that utopian view.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I want her ass to experience the same criminal justice system that we're experiencing. 14 days is bullshit. Right. Plus a Martha Stewart lifestyle. Yeah, plus she has the resource, so she made some choices there about the actions that she wanted to take
Starting point is 01:09:22 to help her child to get into a school. This sister was just trying to help her child to get into a school. She gets five years. One, we need to address the homeless policy in our country because we've got 500,000 people plus who are in that space. We also got to address, you know, the fact that we got five times more African-Americans than whites who are getting incarcerated, and we also got black women two times more likely than white women to get into the incarceration sort of system
Starting point is 01:09:52 that we got going on. So we got to make some changes. But if you got resources and you decide that this is the type of thing that you want to, you know, you got to do the time if you're going to do the crime, as they say. Absolutely. I'm sorry. as they say. Absolutely. I'm sorry. A damn 14 days.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Absolutely. I mean, she needs... Honestly, I was insulted when I saw the 14 days and the $30,000 fine. I mean, like, if she could pay $15,000 to get the SAT scores changed, $30,000 is nothing to her. 14 days is nothing to her.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I'm insulted. And this sister here, as you mentioned, she's homeless. She had to put. I'm insulted. And this sister here, as you mentioned, she's homeless. She had to put some address on there. This is just a prime example of how black people are targeted with injustice over and over again related to our
Starting point is 01:10:36 criminal justice system. And I think that that 14 days is freaking laughable. I'm glad she got something, but she definitely need to get much more than that. I'm sorry. I'd rather her not even get 14 days because it doesn't prove anything.
Starting point is 01:10:52 What is 14 days? You're supposed to be going into an incarceration. You didn't think about your actions. Actually, you thought about it. You thought about privilege and you thought about the key word. You cheated. You wanted to cheat and make sure your daughter got into
Starting point is 01:11:08 whatever school. Was it Yale, Harvard, something like that. Because you felt like as a mother, you just didn't do the best job. So you had to go to those limits. So I'm sorry. I would rather not hurt to even do any jail time unless it was like
Starting point is 01:11:23 comparative to the five years that the African-American woman went through. Because for me, that would be equal justice. Well, this shows whose lives we put value in. Right. So if you are a successful white actress, then you get this type of sentence. If you are a homeless black woman
Starting point is 01:11:42 trying to help your child to be able to get into a better school district, then this is how much value we place on you, and this is the amount of time we're going to give you for trying to help your child. Again, 14 days, absolutely BS. And again, I get everybody, no, no, we shouldn't be wanting, damn that.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Shoot. Damn that. That's nonsense. And what it shows is, again, we shouldn't be wanting, damn that. Shoot. Damn that. That's nonsense. And what it shows is, again, two different justice systems when you got money. That's what it boils down to. All right, y'all. Hundreds of protesters gathered in Galveston, Texas on Sunday evening to demand
Starting point is 01:12:16 that the police department release body camera video of the controversial August arrest of a black man by two white officers on horseback. Now, you remember that a photo was taken by a witness showing white officers leading a black man through the streets of Galveston on horseback, tethered to what looked like a leash. Now, here, I had some of the people in Galveston who I know. This was the front page of the Galveston Daily News. If y'all can go to my iPad, please. This is Galveston Daily News. I'll increase that. Marchers protest police actions, demand justice for Neely.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And some of the photos that I was sent include right here. There we go. So you see that's Ben Crump, of course, in the center leading the marchers. And, of course, we have this photo here of some of the people who were out there as well. And here's another photo of them protesting as well. And so here's also some video of the march. United will never be defeated. United will never be defeated. A people united will never be defeated. A people united will never be defeated. A people united will never be defeated. We have to send a message to the world that it is inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I don't care what intellectual justification, technical reasons, no words can be said to justify what they did to Donald Neely. And we'll surely keep you up to date exactly what happens in the case if that body cam footage Is going to be released. Alright folks, that is it for us today. Oh, I mean, you know, I'm gonna play this right here So I don't know how many of y'all saw this video over the weekend Okay, so I saw this video it was it was pretty funny So, you know a lot of people have been critical of Senator Kamala Harris or criminal justice reform bill
Starting point is 01:14:23 And so this brother put together this video and it, first of all, I love how you use technology to explain something. And so he answered the critics who talk about her being, how she wasn't a progressive, how she was tough
Starting point is 01:14:39 on black people, and how she didn't have progressive policies. So watch this video because he's actually going to be on the show tomorrow. All right, so check this out. So Kamala Harris. It ain't the fact she black. Howard University, Alpha Chapter, a.k.a. It's enough to get my attention, but it ain't enough to get my vote.
Starting point is 01:14:54 All skinfolk ain't kinfolk. You better check her record. And I did that, and I found out some things. She dope. Yo, Kamala Harris is almost exactly what you expect from a prosecutor with the credentials I just mentioned. First off, you ain't even qualified to talk about her unless you heard about Back on Track. That's like trying to discuss Jay-Z without hearing reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Back on Track was a restorative justice program for 18- to 24-year-old first-time nonviolent low-level drug offenders. Instead of jail or a charge on the record, folk got sent to boot camp where they got job readiness training, parental training, earned a GED, got connected with employers for careers, got their credit fixed. That's a pretty good deal. I'm finna go sell an ounce right now Okay But for real Once people graduate that program
Starting point is 01:15:27 Student charges out like it never happened As DA of San Francisco She made social services Help parents chronically and habitually Trunk kids Twitter told y'all She was threatening with jail Cap
Starting point is 01:15:35 The most important issue for me really Is that we get these kids into school The goal is not to prosecute parents It's to get these children to go to school We are not talking about hooky And playing hooky And frankly we all did okay, they were missing 40 to 80 days. That ain't hooky, that's hiatus. And nobody went to jail. I checked. Sister got
Starting point is 01:15:51 them kids back in school and kept them out of incarceration in the grave. She also created reentry initiatives so people in jail could get out and not go back. Convicted over 1,200 domestic abusers. Prosecuted child molesters, rapists, and violent criminals. Transnational gangs. Got $20 billion back for Cali from the big banks after the foreclosure crisis. Created a civil rights division in the San Francisco DA's office. When she first got in, she threw the charges out for the activists and the protesters who got arrested. Shawty a hero. Senator, no disrespect.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Not to mention incarceration wage for marijuana charges fell each year she was AG. So much for that theory about her believing in mass incarceration. But Kamala Harris, I'm excited. I'm excited about her plans for gun reform and the HBCU agenda. I'm excited about women's equal pay and the return of consent decrees. I'm excited about black homeownership and a black woman on the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I'm excited about black businesses booming and the D9 Step Show the day before her inauguration. Y'all know they having a Step Show. And I'm gonna be there too with an $8 fish plate and some mambo sauce. At the end of the day, she the strongest and most prepared in exactly what America need right now.
Starting point is 01:16:40 And I look forward to seeing her stroll into the White House in 2021. That's an AKA joke. I hope she don't make her academy members probate, though. No, seriously, four to eight years, the D9 jokes are going to be hilarious. I still ain't been the same since somebody said she's going to put AKA tags on the back of Air Force One. So Drew is a North Carolina A&T graduate, played football there. And again, I saw that video, and I clicked,
Starting point is 01:17:08 and I realized he follows me on Twitter. So I'm buying him to the show. So we're going to have him on the show tomorrow. So that was pretty cool there. And so, and then, for all of y'all out there, I know some people talking about, why are you supporting Kamala Harris? First of all, that was a funny-ass video.
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