#RolandMartinUnfiltered - SCOTUS halts order to rehire 16,000 workers, Jasmine Crockett torches Trump, NC SAU $18M Lawsuits

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

4.8.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: SCOTUS halts order to rehire 16,000 workers, Jasmine Crockett torches Trump, NC SAU $18M Lawsuits The Supreme Court has blocked a district judge's order that would have required the Trump administration to rehire thousands of fired employees. This means that many remain without income. Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is calling out the same administration that talks about cutting government costs for spending nearly $26 million on Trump's golf outings. You won't want to miss this Crockett Chronicle. A fired former DOJ attorney testified before Congress about her departure and the armed U.S. marshals who delivered a letter restricting her testimony to her home. The National Park Service has reinstated a photo and quote of Harriet Tubman on its website, calling the edits "unauthorized." We'll talk to a Texas State senator who criticized the sponsor of an employment anti-DEI bill for suggesting that their intention is to keep white men in charge. We'll talk about the latest multimillion-dollar lawsuits filed against North Carolina's HBCU Saint Augustine's University.  #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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rehire thousands of federal employees. This means they may remain without income. They are saving his ass again. Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is calling out the same administration that talks about cutting government costs for spending guess what, 26 million bucks for Donald Trump to play golf every weekend.

You don't want to miss the Crockett Chronicles. A fired former DOJ attorney testified literally that Donald Trump and MAGA sent U.S. marshals to her home to try to force her not to testify before Congress. National Park Service got their asses lit up over Harriet Tubman. Now they've reinstated a photo and a quote of hers to their website, calling the edits, quote, unauthorized. Really? Plus, we've talked to a white Texas state senator who went off on one of his Republican colleagues, the sponsor of an anti-DEI bill, showing him it's a whole bunch of white men that got jobs. Plus, we'll talk about the latest multimillion dollar lawsuit against North Carolina HBCU, St. Augustine's University, where we'll be having a town hall this weekend.

Plus, the racist ex-husband of racist comic book writer Marjorie Taylor Greene is now apologizing for insulting Muslim women who were trying to pray. It's time to bring the funk on Rolling Block Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go. to politics with entertainment just for kicks He's rollin' It's on go-go-royal Yeah, yeah It's Rollin' Martin Yeah, yeah

Rollin' with Rollin' now Yeah, yeah He's funky, fresh, he's real the best you know He's Rollin' Martin Now He's funky, he's fresh, he's real, the best you know, he's rolling Martel. Martel. Well, the U.S. Supreme Court saved Donald Trump's ass again. They are pulling back on a decision by a federal judge forcing them to rehire

thousands of federal workers who were fired. In the 7-2 ruling, the court sided with the Trump administration, allowing it to proceed with firing these workers, more than 16,000 workers, many of them still in their probationary period. And the workers were let go as part of a sweeping move by the twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon in chief, the con man Donald Trump, and his fake Department of Government Efficiency, known as DOGE, to downside the federal government aggressively. Justice Justice Kataji Brown Jackson and Sonia Sotomayor spoke out against the decision. Justice Jackson said the administration, frankly, was being out of line. They said they had not shown enough urgency to justify pushing this case so quickly to the Supreme Court, suggesting that this was more about a power grab.

Hmm. You think? Other lawsuits still pending. One federal judge in Maryland has already blocked these firings in nearly 20 states and the District of Columbia. Now, you take this decision and you also factor in them allowing them to continue to fly people out of the country who have not gotten due process. And what it shows you is that the Trump administration, they are banking on this right. Right. Supreme Court allowing them to do whatever they want. My pal, Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA out of D.C.

A. Scott Bolden, he's an attorney here in D.C. Derek Jackson, state representative, Georgia District 68 out of Atlanta. Glad to have all three of you here. I suppose I'll start with the cap lawyer, Scott Bolden. So, Scott, let's go ahead and deal with the law here. Bottom line is Donald Trump's whole strategy is, hey, challenge a lawsuit, go to the Supreme Court. He believes the Supreme Court is going to let him do whatever he wants. They don't want to go through the normal process.

They want to fast track everything. And that's what Justice Brown Jackson was saying. Whoa, wait a minute. How in the hell is this case all of a sudden to us so quickly? Yeah. You know, the Article three courts, the circuits, as well as the federal district courts are saving our democracy right now. They're doing their jobs, Republican or democratically appointed. The Supreme Court seems to keep saving him, but it absolutely makes no sense when you have lower courts who are saying you simply can't do this. And so I think you're right about the strategy. Their strategy is go through the courts as quickly as possible, avoid the courts as

quickly as possible, get to the Supreme Court as soon as possible, and hope that they save them. Now, in regard to the Venezuelan gangs that they transported to El Salvador, they didn't get the relief that they really wanted— No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. The alleged gang members. Yeah, many of them are alleged, because at least two we know certainly aren't gang members.

But they left open. See, the Supreme Court gave the ACLU some relief saying, well, they are entitled to due process. But it was silent as to, well, where do we go from here? What does that mean going forward? But more importantly, what about the alleged gang members that are in San Salvador right now, San Salvador prison now, since they didn't get their due process rights. Are you going to order the government to fly them back, give them due process rights? They were completely silent, which means those alleged prisoners or those alleged gang members stay there for now. So again, that's the place of relief. That's why elections matter. And that's

why the Republicans have stacked that court for this very reason. Watch the Republican administration or watch the Trump administration to take full advantage of it. And that's another dangerous weapon of theirs in regard to white washing and destroying our democracy. Mustafa, here's what's utterly insane. You take the case. 60 Minutes did a report showing that 75 percent of the people they put on planes that flew out of the country did not even have a criminal record. And so what critics are suggesting is that these people are offering no due process. What they are simply doing is snatching people off the streets, throwing them in detention facilities, and sending them out of the country. I saw this one video of a woman in Louisiana who was whining, crying and complaining

because her father, who's been here for 45 years, who was invited into the country from Cuba. Guess what? They grabbed him, did not care. Well, guess what? Go talk to all those Cubans who voted for Donald Trump. This is exactly what black people and others were warning that was going to happen, that they were going to racially profile and just start snatching people up. And we're seeing this. Latinos, Muslims, you name it,

and they're just sending them out of the... We'll deal with them later. And even in the case of El Salvador, literally fighting it and trying to ignore the judge's decision while the plane was in the air by saying, ah, international waters, sorry, you have no jurisdiction. That's how illegal these people are operating. Yeah, you know, that they continue to not want to follow the law in any form or fashion unless it is against them.

And then they want the law, they want justice to actually be front and center. You know, unfortunately, you know, our country is supposed to be founded. Due process is supposed to be one of the sort of hallmark things that helps to set us apart from dictatorships across the planet. But, you know, these folks don't seem to want to follow that for some reason. And black folks, you know, as you shared, you know, we warned them that these types of things could actually happen because we went through it throughout the history of this country, where they used to just grab brothers off the street, sisters as well, and say they were just vagrants and then lock them up because they wanted free labor. So we have a history with this. And that's the reason that we were sounding the alarm. You know, you've got an administration that is a rogue administration. It is an administration

that feels like that they can do whatever they want. And when you have, you know, Scott so aptly laid out, you know, some of the district courts and some of the others that have been doing the right thing. But when you know you have a Supreme Court that seems to not be as concerned about justice, not so concerned about the Constitution, not so concerned about every individual's rights, then you have a very precarious situation going on here where, you know, whether you happen to be Latino or you happen to be Muslim or you happen to be a number of other groups that they don't seem to value their lives as much, then, you know, we've got to continue to fight, push back, highlight these injustices that are going forward, and then make sure that we have politicians and judges moving forward when we have the opportunity to have those people in place that actually want to honor the rule of law.

You know, Derek, the thing here, again, MAGA, Donald Trump, all these right wingers, they're mad and upset that these federal judges are ruling against them. But they didn't mind when those federal judges rule against President Joe Biden. Now they want to change the law to target those federal judges, including even impeach them. Newt Gingrich was on Capitol Hill. We showed the video last week talking about, oh, how one judge shouldn't have all of this power. And he was lit up by Congressman Joe Negese by saying, I'm sorry, why were you so silent when it happened under Biden? They are hypocrites. They only want what's good for them and no one else. You know, Roland, once again, we're sounding the alarm, right?

We sound the alarm during Project 2025. We're sounding the alarm again. The whole essence of Project 2025 now, this Trump administration, is to consolidate government. This is to make sure all the powers rest in the executive branch. They don't want no safeguards. They don't want no checks and balances. They want to be able to do as they so will. I mean, think about, you know, what we've been talking about so far this evening, and that is this whole law that they're using from 1789.

The Alien Enemies Act made sure that the United States had to be declared in war. We're not at war. And so we have to look at what they're really trying to signal. And that is not just picking up the other. One day they're going to start picking up citizens, black and brown people, and taking them to El Salvador and Cuba and other places, because when you start to do that, they're going to really execute the plan in Project 2025, which is, as they've already stated, to deport 20 million citizens. The word immigration is not in there.

It said 20 million citizens. So this is just a test run when you start to kidnap people, because that's what this is, picking them up and not saying where they're going, and then taking them to another country. That's problematic. And let me be real clear here folks. Scott, I think this is really important.

Look you got a lot of black people like you know, I'm down with this sin as is back. But there still is a phrase 2 words that matter is called the process and if you if you take the position that, oh, send them back. I don't care. And you completely ignore due process,

you know what that means? They are going to not allow due process in other areas. Yeah. And have before, and if you believe this is the third reconstruction, as you often talk about, then we're next on the targeted list. I joke with my colleagues about, have you got your camp number yet? Because they're coming for us next because the black and brown immigrants who are here, they've got a target on their back. Listen, the beauty of due process is

everyone's entitled to it. And when you become a target of the criminal justice system or the immigration system, you certainly do want due process. Now, the only reason this government is doing this is simply to expedite the deportation, to feed the MAGA appetite for eliminating black and brown people in anticipation of 2043, when we become a country of color, if you will. That's it. This is purely political. And if you listen to the rhetoric of not only MAGA supporters, but the administration and the president, all they talk about and all they market is what they're—to match their rhetoric. That's it. It's to expedite, to get rid of the worst of the worst and the criminals. But you see, you make mistakes that they have to

admit when you don't give them due process. They're terrified of the lower courts because even their own lawyers for DOJ who don't have the information are being fired by the attorney general for not, quote, being prepared and, quote, zealously advocating for these illegal programs or this illegal conduct. They're actually being terminated for not following these orders that are really illegal orders. And so people talk about a constitutional crisis, Roland. We've been in a constitutional crisis from the moment in January when this new administration was sworn in and stuff. And the courts are trying to save us, but no one else is.

Congress is not going to save us. The executive branch isn't going to save us, which is why we got two years, 16 months, right, to try to take this. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

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to figure out a way, legally or illegally, for Trump to keep the presidency illegally for another four years. That's going to be the long-term challenge, but it's creeping up on us very fast. Yeah, it's about power. And again, Mustafa, if you are allowed not to provide due process in one area, what these thugs, what these thugs have shown is that they are then going to begin to apply that in other areas as well. Look, the Supreme Court says equal justice under law. And we can't, even if you're somebody black watching and listening and you don't, so you believe just seeing everybody back, you had better understand due process because if there's any

group of people who have a history with America not giving them any due process, it's black people just ask every family that has had a history of lynching. Without a doubt. I mean, Dr. King laid it out for us. He said injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. He had real intentionality in sharing those words. Of course, in the moment, the things that they were dealing with, they saw every time that they made a positive step forward that people were pushing back. And they were pushing back in a number of areas, whether it was around access or whether it was around housing or a number of other things.

You can go down the list of the things where he knew that we had to hold the line. So for brothers and sisters out there, I mean, I get the impacts that are happening in our communities. Everybody knows I done worked in a whole bunch of them all over the place. But we have to make sure that we are not allowing the erosion of justice to continue to happen. Because, are next, unfortunately, in the crosshairs. Some would say we're already in those crosshairs. And they said that these people that they're sending back there are criminals and those types of things. Well, they try and criminalize us all the time. And we understand that that's just the next step in being able to move us wherever they might see fit. So we need to pay particular attention to what's going on. step in being able to move us wherever they might see fit.

So we need to pay particular attention to what's going on. Yes, we have to focus on the issues that are happening inside of our communities, but we also got to understand that there is an interconnectedness to what is going on. And we have to be prepared to also make some investments in this space to make sure that we are not the next ones that find ourselves, you know, in a number of black site locations across the planet. And I'll stop there so I don't get in trouble. Well, but they don't get in trouble. I mean, bottom line here, Darryl, when Mustafa talked about— I'm surprised you're still on the air.

Excuse me? I'm surprised you're still on the air. You should be going underground because they're coming for you next. You look like you're from Africa or something. I'm two blocks from here. Tell them to bring their punk asses here. You got one lawyer in your corner. Bring their punk asses here.

Bring your ass. As a hashtag, bring your ass. Derek, bottom line is what we are facing right now, Derek, we are facing a bunch of scared punks in this country, okay? You got punk ass law firms that are buckling,

that are kissing his butt. Republicans. You got Democrats that are buckling. you got people who are scared to death Oh my god, you got all these Silicon Valley folks who got more money Than anybody who are doing all they can to kiss his ass No This is a moment where people must stand up to the thug Stand up to the bully stand up to to the con man. And our legal warriors must be doing

what they are supposed to do, fighting using the law. These thugs, Donald Trump, thug. J.D. Vance, thug. Elon Musk, thug. Stephen Miller, thug. All of them. Pam Bondi, thug. Kash Patel, thug. Dan Bongino, thug. They do not care about the rule of law. They do not care about the Constitution. All they care about is doing whatever they want, when they want, and everyone else who disagrees be damned. Yeah, you're exactly right, Roland. And I tell you what, they also know that their time span is short. I mean, if you think about what just took place over this

weekend, nearly 6 million people across the United States. I mean, they had some signs out there. I know here in Atlanta, Roland, we had 30,000 folks that march two and a half miles. And if you read some of the signs, it wasn't saying that we want Trump. I mean, they had some very egregious words for this bully. And when you think about what also is happening in the stock market, I posted today, hey, last time I checked, DEI didn't crash the stock market. An LGBTQ transgender that did not cause for $12 trillion. You had Tim Cook, Johnny Damon, J.P. Morgan,

all these folks now saying, oh, we didn't expect this. What were they expecting? What were they expecting? What were they expecting, Roland? Everybody that was on the front seat during his inauguration, what were they expecting for him to do? They just thought the rain was going to fall on black people? They just thought the thunderstorms were going to fall in our neighborhoods? $12 trillion, Roland, has been lost in the stock market. Now you have four Republicans in the Senate who are voting with Democrats right now saying we need to put some litigation, some legislation. And forget all this litigation stuff. We need legislation.

But then the Speaker of the House, Roland, he says, trust the process. But this is the same individual who will not go back to Louisiana and conduct a town hall meeting. These bullies, these thugs do not want to face the music. And the music is that those six million people that were marching this past Saturday, they want that ass, point blank. And they don't want Facebook. But see, what has to happen here, what has to happen here, Mustafa, is you have to use everything,

everything at your disposal. This is not, let me be real clear, this is not about only marching, only protesting, only sending letters. This is about you have to attack these thugs on a legal front, a moral front. You must attack them on a grassroots front, on an economic front, on a political front. I mentioned this yesterday. Go to my iPad. Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat, this person tweeted, told me tonight

that he's holding up all Trump nominees going forward in the Senate. Blumenthal sits on four committees, Judiciary, Armed Services, Vet Affairs, and Homeland, and oversees many nominations. Dems building a wide-ranging nomination blockade in the Senate. That's Senator Richard Blumenthal. You also have, same thing, you have Speaker, excuse me,

you have Senator Brian Schatz. Same thing here. This is right here. Senator Brian Schatz blocking more than 300 Trump administration nominations by refusing to let them pass with unanimous consent. I don't think we should make anything easy going forward, he said. Well, guess what?

It's about, it's about, damn, it's about damn time. And this has to happen, Mustafa. I think back when you had all of those military appointments that Senator Tommy Tuberville held up because he said the Pentagon, they were allowing reproductive rights to move forward. And so if you're a Democrat, now that's what you do. Now, you sit here and you create a blockade.

You create a blockade. You simply say, nah, ain't a damn thing moving. Ain't nothing moving. Listen, now mind you, I held out. But this reminds me, Mustafa, when I was a kid, we were eating dinner, and I wanted an additional piece of chicken. And my dad was like, you're going to eat them peas first. Now, first of all, I hate peas.

No, I don't think you understand. I hate peas. The only thing I probably hate more than peas is the Dallas Cowboys. But it's a damn close second. I hate peas. I think peas are nasty. I think peas are horrible. And I know my dad ain't gonna test me because he loves vegetables.

I'm like, I can't stand them damn peas. So he was like, you ain't getting another piece of chicken unless you finish them peas. I'm like, I guess we stand them damn peas. So he was like, you ain't getting another piece of chicken unless you finish them peas. I'm like, I guess we gonna be sitting here at this damn table, people. We sat there. Now you gotta understand, I stayed up late. I still stay up late.

I go to bed at 3, 4, 5, 6 o'clock in the morning. I still stay up late. And I was sitting there and I was like, I know he can't outlast me. I said, so, man, we were at that table about two and a half, three hours. Then he got mad. He was like, pack this shit up and take your ass to bed. He was hot.

I ain't eat them damn peas. See, sometimes you got to take a stand. And so I took my stand against them peas. And guess what? Ain't a damn pea in my house. And if my wife wants some peas, that's on her. So you got to sometimes say, now, ain't nothing moving. We're going to sit here. We're going to sit here.

I'm going to wait you out. They should sit there and say, we ain't moving no nomination for the next three years. And then force the Republicans, Mustafa, force the Republicans to have to go through the laborious task of putting one, one name, one name, one name. And that's what you do. You sit there. Do you allow unanimous consent?

No. No. That's what you gotta do mustafa shut it down i mean i agree you got to use every tool in the toolbox everything that you have the ability to utilize in this moment it does a number of things yes it slows the process down but it also helps to make the process more authentic because when folks don't see you fighting back, right, those people who elected you, who sent you to Capitol Hill, that says something to them. It says you don't really have a spine. Either you don't have a spine or you don't have the intelligence that's necessary to be able to navigate the moment that you find yourself in. So I have a problem, because one, if you don't have a spine, I don't need you to be there. And if you don't have the intelligence to be able to navigate, I don't need you to be there.

So you've got to do something in this moment to make sure that people know that you're serious about defending their rights, about trying to make sure that this country is more equitable, and to be able to push back against the injustice that continues to happen, both from the administration and from the co-signing that continues to happen on Capitol Hill. So you have the opportunity to make sure that you're doing something. And people will appreciate that. They understand that there's limited amounts of power. But if you build up those small pieces, then it has significance. So, you know, I always just say, get up off your butt and do something. And my daddy was no joke. My dad would be like, if there is a problem, you better come forward with some

solutions before you sit down and have a conversation with me about it. So, you know, people, everyday people are willing to stand up. You know, the brothers shared these different examples that are there. I'm big on the economics, because I believe one of the ways you get these people's attention—and we saw it over the last few days with the stock market—is to actually be utilizing ways of hitting folks in the pocket. But there are a number of other tools. Me coming from the grassroots movement, I understand the power that's there and protesting in various forms, as long as it's nonviolent.

Let me just tell you that. But, you know, we've got this moment and we need to utilize it in a way that people know we're serious, that we're standing up for them or we're standing actually in alignment and solidarity with them and that folks are going to do what they can. Look, I told you my dad going to send me a text. P's are good for you, Scott. Hell no. You got to swing. Doc, here's the deal. If you have limited power, then you must maximize

your limited power. Limited power don't mean no power. Bro, but wait a minute, guys. Be honest with your listening audience now. Guys, he didn't eat the peas, right? But what you all don't know is I met his mom and daddy. His mama, when he was growing up, would fix him a separate cake. You damn skippy.

A cake for the family and a cake for him because he was so freaking spoiled. No, no, no. See, see, see. No, no, no. See, Scott. See, Scott. See, Scott, here's your problem right here. See, first of all, Scott. I talked to your mom. No, no, Scott. See, see, see. No, no, no. See, Scott. See, Scott. See, Scott, here's your problem right here. See, first of all, Scott.

What? I talked to your mom. No, no, Scott. I know your mom. Scott, you're not smart enough to negotiate. See, Scott, here's what you don't understand. See, Scott, right here. See, here's the problem, Scott.

See, people just tell you we're going to do something for you. And see, you fall in line. I don't fall in line. Yeah. See, Scott. Now, Scott, Scott, Scott, you see you think you're a brilliant lawyer, but let me explain, I am!

But let me explain to you how you outsmart your opponent. My brother's birthday is November 13th. My birthday is November 14th. My mama was like, I'ma do a joint cake. Well, hell, I didn't want the same damn cake he wanted. Okay? So, I simply said, you know what? I want a cake with no icing.

Well, guess what then happened? My brother wanted icing. What ended up happening? She had to make two cakes. That ain't what she said. No, no, no, no, no. That's where it started. See? That ain't what she said. No, no, no, no, no. That's where it started. See, you had to outsmart.

You got to learn how to outsmart people, Scott. So I saw the loophole. I was like, I don't want no icing. Had to make a separate cake. See? See? See? Scott, you would have never thought of that, Scott.

Scott, you would have never thought of that. You. Scott, you would have never thought of that. You would have went ahead and went, yeah, you know what? You right. It's easy to have one cake. Hell no, we ain't going to have one cake. Got two cakes. He was so selfish that he made his own mama cook a second cake. No.

And their birthdays are one day apart. Guess what? Think about what type of son he is. If you had two damn kids and two damn years, it's going to be two damn cakes. And she admitted this to me in person. She said, yes, I had to bake him a separate cake, Scott. I said, but why?

She said, well, he is my son and I love him. I said, you know why I paid? Versus saying no. And you know why I paid off? Because mama right now is living in my house that I paid off. And guess what? Mama and daddy have a great ass life. So daddy like, good job making that second damn cake.

See? See? See? If you take care of stuff on the front end, they're going to take care of you on the back end. See? See? See? If you take care, if you take care of stuff on the front end, they're going to take care of you on the back end. See? I told you. See, Scott, you ain't that bright. Go ahead and make your little point that you were

trying to make on a topic at hand before you chose to divert the damn show with your little silly ass cake comment. Watch this. What was your question again? Yes. See? My whole question is when you have limited power, see, you only remember when you have limited power, you want to maximize your limited power and don't act like you don't have any power. Yeah, no, no, no. I agree.

The Democrats are wild to start implementing that. but you have to use all the tools in the toolkit, as Mustafa said. And then eventually—and the thing is, it also puts the Republicans in a trick box, right? Because they've done the same thing to the Democrats, and the Democrats now are going to do it to them, and they can complain all they want. All you have to do is run the videotape or run the legislation back and say, you did the same thing, so shut up.

Be quiet. In no uncertain terms, right? But see, Democrats got to get away from wanting to be the right and the morally correct ones and be above the fray. You're dealing with some political thugs, some Republican gangsterism, and you got to get down with the gangsters, which means you got to get on the ground and get out. And you cannot be afraid to do the same thing and to hell with what the press says or what your moral values say. Because for moral values to be relevant, probative material, you have to be dealing with an opponent that has moral values, right? Then you can beat them at

that game. But these people, these Republicans aren't practicing moral values, right? Then you can beat them at that game. But these people, these Republicans aren't practicing moral values, right? They're practicing political gangsterism. And so you got to be a gangster too. Calling all Democratic gangsters, come to the front, because we need you at the door. Hey, I can pull up an article I wrote on CNN a long

time ago saying Democrats got to learn to be gangsters, Derek. And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to go ahead and go on record. I did this months ago. I'm going to say it right now. Whoever runs for the Democratic nomination for president in 2028, I'm about to give y'all some unsolicited advice right now. Matter of fact, put the camera on me by my damn self. Let me say this again. Let me say this again. Here's my advice for every Democratic candidate who's running in 2028 for president. When the press asks you,

are you gonna release your college transcripts? Hell no. That's right. When the press asks you, are you going to put your money into a trust? Hell no. When they ask you, are you gonna release your health records, hell no. When they ask you, are you going to release your health

records, hell no. When they ask, are you going to add any family members to the administration, you should say hell yeah. If they say, well, you know, we

think you're spending too much time going to your beach house or playing golf, the, you know, we think you're spending too much time going to your beach house or playing golf, the response should be kiss my ass. Here's the whole deal. It's abundantly clear. And then if any Democrats, if any Republicans start talking, you'd say shut the hell up. And then if any Democrats start talking, you say, y'all kiss my ass too. Because see, here's the fundamental problem. Democrats, y'all sit here and y'all try to take the high

moral ground and we're going to do it a certain way while the Republicans are in the gutter. And so it's all bets off. Bottom line is, the voters have made it clear, oh, we can elect you if you're a sexual assaulter. We can elect you if you cheat on your taxes. We elect you if you don't pay your damn bills. We can elect you if you lie. And my whole deal is like, so now don't come to me thinking I'm going to sit here and do all the right things. No, damn that.

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Since y'all didn't say nothing with that thug who you allowed back in the Oval Office, well then don't be asking me to turn in all my stuff and turn in all my records. No, I ain't turning in a damn thing. I approve this message. Derek. You know that ain't gonna happen.

Come on, Roland. It better. You've been in this political game for a long time. No. I'm telling everybody. I'm telling everybody. No. I'm telling right now.

I'm telling. And see, don't even. I'm telling you. Stop even being nice. Have a debate. Will you commit on this stage that if you don't win the nomination, you're going to endorse all the other candidates? Nope. We'll see. No, I ain't even, because again, it is

clear that America has decided that the rules that it used to demand or call for folks to abide by, they've decided that, nah, it's good for Donald Trump. So it's like, yo, wait, I'm telling you, all this, oh, man, let me sit here, let me think it through. Nah, hell nah, we ain't doing none of that. We ain't doing none of that.

And the answer should be, I'm telling you right now, listen, I go ahead and volunteer. Because first of all, if it was a Republican president, especially the one, nah, I'm going to cuss them out. In the past, you had some Republicans. You know that? I probably would say, you know what? I can work for that reasonable person.

They crazy as hell now. But I'm telling you right now, I'll volunteer to either be the press secretary or the translating press secretary. You need to have somebody. I'm telling you. No, the rules are over. Hey, ask a dumbass question. Ask a dumbass question. Next. No, we

ain't even, see, I'm telling you, I don't have no patience for none of this anymore, Derek. I got no patience for any of it. I'm telling you right now, Democrats, start playing by the new rules. That's how y'all want to roll. Got it. That's how we go. Roll. Listen, really? I mean, you know me. I agree.

And second, that motion. But in a large part, you're going to have political consultants like James Carville and them, they're going to say when they go low, they're going to say, you remember what Michelle Obama said, when they go low, you go high. And your response is, she ain't running. We have to meet them where they are right

now. That's the reason why when Barack Obama had an opportunity to put another Supreme Court justice, what happened? They were playing too nice. And Mitch McConnell delivered against that behind, right? And so the bottom line is, I agree. The challenge is, can the Democratic Party, the party that I am in, can we get to the point where we're willing to fight a new political arena? Can we put the things aside where we used to, Roland, always, we got to win Wisconsin, we got to win Pennsylvania? No. How about spend some money with Roland Martin's show to make sure that we can get the word out? How about going campaign hard in Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina?

Go against the norms. That's what you're talking about. Go against the norms and the traditions, because we already know, Roland, by doing the opposite, we haven't won. So we got to do something new. And part of doing something new is to hold Republicans and say, no, you can't tell me if I have something in the closet when you elected a person with 34 felonies, six bankruptcies, and got three baby mamas. Come on. So I agree. But you know the Democratic Party ain't going to do that, Roland. rubsies and got three baby mamas. Come on. So I agree. But you know the Democratic Party ain't going to do that,

Roland. Like I said, you better roll a different way. I'm telling you right now, I don't give a damn. All right. Let me go to a break. We come back, y'all. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, she was going off on these folk, but also we're going to talk to a Texas state representative. Young man, I saw this clip and I was like, y'all, y'all have got to get this white man on my show.

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I said the Texas State Senator was coming up next, not Consulman Jasmine Crockett. So I need y'all to focus in the control room. Okay? All right. So here's what I'm sick and tired of. I'm sick and tired of all these white conservatives, these white Republicans standing up, yelling DEI, how they're against DEI when they're a bunch of liars and won't even admit to the reality of who DEI actually is helping. Now, listen, we look at contracts and other programs like that.

The reality is, yes, is it helping a few black folks, a few Latinos and others, but overwhelmingly the folk who are getting hooked up with DEI are white women. But when you talk about why do you even have DEI in the first place, it's because you largely have white men who wouldn't do right and actually pick folk by merit. They would just keep picking the same folk who look like them, who go to the country club, who play golf, who would just keep picking the same folk who look like them,

who go to the country club, who play golf, who play tennis, and the same thing. Well, a Texas state senator, they were debating this bill on the floor, and they've been debating this a while. When I was in Austin a few weeks ago being honored as an outstanding Texan by the Texas Legislative Black Caucus, I popped in and they were having a discussion on the floor. Well, here they were having this discussion, and thank God, finally, you had somebody who looked a white Republican in his eye and said what needed to be said.

Roll it. You don't believe there should be 40% Latinos in executive director positions instead of 2%? Not even 2%, just 2%. I believe we should be making these decisions based on merit, instead of 2%? Not even 2%, just 2%. I believe we should be making these decisions based on merit, not based on the color of our skin or our sex or our ethnicity. I'm really horrible at math. That's why I went on to law school members. Two Latino

executive directors, that's got to be less than, that's like a 1.5 percent of these 135 officers and we're 40 percent of the population you don't think that my folks are qualified enough to do the same job as their white counterparts essentially you you uh i don't know where you're getting that this bill says we should treat everyone the same regardless of their race regardless the same, regardless of their race, regardless of their sex, regardless of their ethnicity. But we don't, are we? We're not treating everybody the same. 120 white guys have the job where white women don't have the job, black men and black women don't have the job, brown women don't have the job. Somebody decided in this building, in the powers that be, these commissions, that these white men were the way we wanted to go. And that's not racism to you?

Senator, I don't want to move backwards. I want to move forwards. I want to move toward that society where we're not decided based on race or sex or ethnicity. Okay, well, what about a quota system right now, today, where we had a merit-based quota system, where we said, we're going to do you on merit. What if Senator Miles puts up an amendment that says, is it going to be merit-based? I think we're going to see an amendment like that from someone in this room today.

And what if there was an amendment to the amendment that says, okay, well, let's have a quota so that these agencies could be represented by people of color, qualified people of color, to the percentage of the population in this state? What's wrong with that? Senator, the most qualified person for the job, regardless of their race, regardless of their sex,

without regard to their ethnicity, that's who we want. That's who the people of Texas need to be able to hire. As long as white men are doing the hiring. See? Thank you. I'm glad somebody non-black called it like it is, because every time we have one of these debates, I'm just gonna be real clear, y'all, because this is my problem.

I remember when Senator Chris Murphy and other Democrats, they were all standing around, dancing around. They sitting here trying to, no, let's not use the word diversity. Let's not use inclusion. Let's not use this here. Man, call this thing what it is. These folks want to deny what's in our faces because the reality is they really

believe that when they see somebody black, they see somebody who's Latino, they see somebody who's Asian, if they see even a white woman, in their minds, if you are not a white man, then you did not get the job. Y'all notice they never call a white man the DEI hire. Matter of fact, do this here. Y'all get this queued up control room. I was supposed to do it yesterday. I'm going to show y'all

a grossly unqualified white man who Donald Trump appointed to a job and the questions he was asked was stunning, and not one Republican in Congress said, why is this man even appointed? Joining us right now is Texas State Senator Roland Gutierrez. Glad to have you here.

Senator, I mean, first of all, thank you. Thank you for just putting it out there. That man sat there and was like, where are you getting these 120 white men from? He completely acted like they didn't exist. But let me focus on the little speck of color. No, that's right. I mean, Roland, thank you for having me on. Listen, we've been dealing with this bullshit in Texas for years and it never stops. Session after session, we hear more and more of their crazy racist bills, and yet we don't ever go out and fix the real things that are hurting people in our communities of color. We don't early child care development. I mean,

hunger. Hunger is an issue still in this state. I mean, we've got 450 kids with measles in this state. Housing issues, you name it. Health care, all of it. Those are the real problems that are affecting us, and yet these guys want to tell us that they want to take it back to a world, I guess, to the 1950s. I guess that's where they want us to be. And they claim that they want to

get to a space in Texas where we're colorblind. Well, we haven't gotten there yet. Right. I mean, can they please, I really would appreciate if one of these white Republicans can pinpoint me the exact day, time, and month when we hired in America and it was all equal, colorblind, merit-based. By all means, can you show me when that actually happened? I dare say that since the Civil Rights Act of 65, since the Voting Rights Act, 64 Civil Rights Act, 65 Voting Rights Act, 68 Fair Housing Act, I dare say since we have those bills, we are more merit-based than we ever have been because before, you damn sure it wasn't the case.

No, I mean, that's right. And if we, and I know when you say quotas, people get a little bit offended about that and they think, well, we're not there, but we've never had quotas to begin with. But if we're truly in a colorblind society where we want to say that it's merit-based, listen, there's a lot of black young men and young women, Hispanic young men and young women that do can do the work just as well as their white counterparts. Then let's have 40 percent in that building be Latino. Let's have 13 percent be African-American. But that's not the case. Two African-American men are executive directors, two Latino men, 10 women out of the 135 executive agencies in the state of Texas. 10 white women. 10 white women, right? 10 white women.

That's right. There you go. That's right. So let's be clear. Out of four people of color, four people of color out of those positions, when we are a majority minority state. 61% of Texas are people of color. That's right. 61% are people of color. That's right. 61% are people of color.

And these guys want to tell us that we live in a colorblind world or they want to get us to a colorblind world. Hell, in that room that I was in, there's about eight Confederates on the wall. Boom. How do we move on with, you know, Robert E. Lee on the wall or somebody that looks like him? Well, I was there when I was there. I did a whole video. I live streamed it of that big old Confederate memorial that's sitting right there on the lawn.

And, you know, luckily, across the across the lawn, they finally had a memorial for African-Americans. But that massive monument. See, this is the thing that, and see, what grates on me when these conversations are held is that Democrats want to shy away from it. What you did is you put it in the face. Now, the only thing, this is the only criticism I have, Senator. This is the only criticism I have.

And trust me, I know why, it happens naturally, and this has happened for years. What happens is, when we have these conversations, we often use the word, use the qualifier qualified. See they only use that word when it applies to us. But when it comes to any of them getting hired, they never use the word qualified. So I start from the position that if you are considered for the job, that you are qualified. If you got hired, you are qualified.

So I don't even use it. I don't even say, hey, we're looking for qualified. Well, that's just automatic. We, of course, we're looking for qualified. But they never do that. They automatically assume if they got the job, they white, they qualified. We don't even question their resume. And I'm still ticked off with that black woman who was crying over the water. We showed it on the video and she was crying because another black legislator came

to her defense. But you had that white Republican, Harrison, who literally was questioning this woman on DEI and she had to sit there and recount how many degrees that she has and what school she went to. And I'm just, I'm sorry. I just can't, I just can't accept anymore us having to show our credentials to prove our worthiness when they can just show up. No, I mean, I'm with you. We are equally as qualified as any of our white counterparts. My parents were immigrants to this country, and yet here I stand in the Texas Senate are going, the big jobs in this state, are going to white men. Let's face it, because they knew somebody. They knew a guy.

Boom! Call it what it is. And that's the deal. They knew somebody. And see, I've always, I just believe that you just got to call that thing a thing. And it has to be what you did. You're like, so are you trying to explain to me in a state this diverse, 120 white guys, you're trying to tell me that out of the whole state, only four?

Because you said two Latino men, two black men, right? That's right. So that means that for all these jobs, that wasn't one black woman, wasn't one Latino woman who was eligible. So you had two Latino dudes, two black dudes, 10 white women, that's 14 out of the whole state. And part of the thing about DEI is forcing you to recruit at different places, to solicit different input, to post a job different places. That's all DEI is. It is to expand your, that just having these types of diversity, equity, inclusion programs, that just the mere mentioning of them leads us to be racist. It's the most nonsensical thing you've ever heard, because we're nowhere near any kind of colorblind society, not in this state, not in Texas. Just their argument is so flawed. And we have to push back.

We as minorities, as Latinos, as African-Americans, we've got to push back against what's happening in this state. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

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And, you know, we've been fighting for people for a long time. We're going to continue to do so. So I had a black state official from South Carolina who stood up, had him on the show the other day, J.A. Moore. And I asked him this question. I said, I said, well, Rep, I gotta ask you. Where were the white women? Did they say anything? He's like,

no. So they're in Texas. Are white male Democrats? Are they as aggressive in this as you are? I know what Senator, I saw Senator Boris Miles, my frat brother, when he spoke on that day when I was there. Are white female Democrats saying something?

Because here is the other issue that bothers me. First thing that bothers me, any time we talk about these programs historically, black folks was the ones sitting here leading the charge. And I've challenged Latinos saying, yo, I'm going to need you to step up. So then you have black and Latinos stepping up. My problem a lot of times is Asian Americans are real quiet. Pakistani Americans,

people who actually benefit from programs, are quiet. But white women benefit more. You already gave the numbers. Ten of them, two Latino men, two black men. Are white women. Democrats, are they being as vigorous in speaking out against this bill as you are as Senator Boris Miles, as Senator Royce West?

Well, you know, they're doing their part. But to your point, we hold up. Senator, Senator, Senator. Now, you know, look, you straight shooter, and you call them straight. If we don't do it, Senator, let's go ahead and go there. Are the white female Democrats doing enough? We can always do better. We can always do better.

And I'll tell you, this is what's happening right now in Texas. We literally need to get black people and brown people on the same page. And that might sound odd to you, but we're in this thing together. Yep. And we've got to fight back against the injustices in Texas. And to your point, white women, we are getting killed in this state on everything. Yep. On everything. They are taking our civil liberties away in this state.

They are attacking Hispanic communities like you cannot believe. You have a guy that this governor, this white governor, let a guy out of prison, pardoned him. The guy killed a man who was a Black Lives Matter protester. He shot him with his AR-15. We talked about it. Point blank. And this sick son of a bitch governor that we have pardons the man, releases him from prison after four years. If you and me would have shot somebody, we'd be on death row right now.

Let's face it. Yep. Yep. But some white dude kills a Black Lives Matter. A racist white dude. A racist white dude. Who killed a white guy. He gets pardoned.

And so African-Americans in this state and Latinos in this state, they could run this state if they got together and so chose to do so and so chose to fight against these injustices in this state. I don't know how to wake people up. That's my fault. I don't know. I don't. I anger people enough. You know, you know that what happened to me in Uvalde, Texas, happened to those families. Yep.

Was a wake up call for me because it changed my whole worldview. I changed my whole worldview for life and what my purpose was. But we got to wake up, Roland, because these people are killing us, and that's not hyperbole. Oh, yeah, listen, I am a native of Houston. My parents are natives of Houston. My parents, my grandparents, maternal grandparents migrated from Louisiana to Houston

in the 30s. My paternal folks are from Texas, roots going to East Texas. And so although I work here, my homestead is still there in Southern Dallas County. I go home to vote Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. I'm a constituent of hers. And here's the thing, I was there in Houston,

working at the Houston Defender as an intern in 1990 when you had African-American and Latinos who were fighting over who was going to be the police chief. And then I've seen the fire chief battles. I was there in Dallas when they were battling over the school district. One of the reasons why the Texas Education Agency took over the Houston Independent School District, because Latinos on the Houston School Board were trying to freeze out black folks. That infighting led to the TEA takeover right now, the largest school district in the country

taken over by the state. And so you're absolutely right. But I think two things have to happen. I think there has to be, and this is just somebody from the outside, I think there has to be an internal Latino conversation because, and I've got Paola Ramos, a bunch of other books, John Leguizamo has talked about this here, you have some Latinos who identify as white and who don't identify as brown who are about assimilation. So you've got to have that internal conversation.

And then the twofer conversation, I believe there needs to be real town halls around the state and I will be happy to come back, moderate them, broadcast them, do whatever. Well, we got to put black folks and Latinos in the room together and say, yo, the numbers are there if we actually align. But trust me, we ain't in power if we are sitting here fighting one another and why MAGA Republicans in Texas, Greg Abbott, Dan Patrick, are destroying the future for our nieces and nephews and our children. And it's going to be a screwed up future if we do not align. No, that's right. And I'll give you a third point about that Latino conversation. We have a lot of young men that are switching to the other side to vote for this MAGA agenda.

I would hope that by now what people are seeing with this man is that they're seeing that they were wrong, first off. And it's OK. You can come back into the fold. We certainly need you, because—so that's an internal Latino conversation. But I think that the bigger point here is those same executive position jobs, just imagine. Imagine if you had people of color running this state. Six-figure jobs that changes families and lineage. Now you're talking about power. Now you're talking about going from those positions, running for higher office.

It changes the entire ballgame. And that's why I'm fighting all these federal firings because 20% of the federal government black, 10% of the corporate workforce white. We couldn't get corporate jobs, so we looked at the federal government. When they slashed the federal jobs, you are slashing black wealth because that's the place where you have more black people with six-figure salaries. And so this thing is way deeper than folks get. And so, listen, I'm going to have my producers give me my cell phone.

I was talking to Representative Tallarico. I'm totally opposed to that voucher scam. I'm a school choice supporter, but that's an absolute scam. It's happening there. But thank you for speaking directly to these white Republicans and putting the numbers on the table to force them to have to face it because he looked like a deer in headlights when you hit him with those numbers and he was just blah, blah, blah. He didn't know what to say. Roland, thank you very much. I appreciate what you've done, not just for this state,

but for this country. We've got to keep fighting back. We've got to keep fighting back together. And we've got to wake some people up and get them to vote because that's how that's our AR-15. That's our gun is that vote. And we can change the world if we can get people to do that in the right way. 2.1 million eligible Latinos in Texas unregistered. And Texas has the largest number of eligible black voters of any state in America. But what I keep saying, we've got to get them registered and then we've got to get them voting at 70 percent capacity in order to win. So, Senator, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

SEN. Thank you, my friend. Y'all, I told you all about this clip I was going to play. Man, I saw this. We all knew this. We all knew this here, OK? But man, I saw this video. And I'm trying to figure out how even one Republican didn't go,

damn, we don't need to vote for this dude here. If y'all want to see somebody who's grossly unqualified, roll it. Mr. Donahue, what is the maximum number of lawyers that you have supervised in your experience as an associate in a law firm? Thank you for your question, Senator. It varies but it was typically anywhere from six, usually eight, up to ten with summer associates as well. All lawyers? Not all lawyers including summer associates. Okay. What was the maximum number of lawyers you supervised in your job at the solar company? None, Senator. None at the solar company.

In your work as an associate in the Buffalo law firm, did you hold yourself out as an environmental attorney? As an environmental lawyer, I did. I was a law firm in Buffalo. I was a law firm in Buffalo. And you were a law firm in Buffalo. I was a law firm in Buffalo. And you were a law firm in Buffalo. As an environmental attorney. As an environmental lawyer, I

did. You spent one year and six months practicing law for that firm in Buffalo, correct? I was located in that firm in Buffalo, yes, senator. And just add some color to that. Well, I have pretty short time, so we can follow up with QFRs, because I promise you there will be QFRs on this.

Have you practiced law anywhere else other than that as an associate in the firm that terminated you and in the solar company where you supervised no lawyers? Senator, I have not. Apart from your associate experience in Buffalo and the solar company, have you practiced law in any other place? I have not, Senator, but I was at the agency before in the first Trump administration. Not in a legal position? That's correct, Senator.

Have you ever taken a deposition? I have not, Senator. This is probably the closest I've ever come to that. Have you ever tried a case to verdict? No, Senator. In the firm and at the solar company, we relied on, in the solar company, we relied on outside counsel. So you were providing inside advice at the solar council rather than active litigation work? It was an in-house counsel.

Have you ever argued a motion? I have not, Senator. But as you know what a motion in limine is. I do vaguely yes. Well you should have been better prepped because John Kennedy asks this question. Yes. Have you ever authored and signed a legal pleading? I have not, Senator. There was a gap of several years between your graduation from law school and when you entered the bar in Washington, D.C. During that period, did you take the bar and fail to pass? I did one time, Senator, yes. In what jurisdiction?

What, sorry? In what jurisdiction did you take the bar and fail to pass? I did one time, Senator, yes. In what jurisdiction? What, sorry? In what jurisdiction did you take the bar and fail to pass? But there was a gap before I actually took the bar. I wasn't sure if I actually wanted to go and practice law, to be frank. Under what circumstances would you counsel the EPA administrator to violate a court order? Senator, thank you for that. I would never counsel the EPA administrator to violate a court

order. Under oath, can you assure us now that EPA is presently in compliance with the federal court decisions by judge Ali Khan and judge McConnell? Right now. Senator, I believe that the agency is.

When a public official makes public accusations of criminal activity with no credible evidence to support the accusations, what legal liabilities and concerns does that raise? Senator, as you mentioned in opening, potentially defamation, that sort of thing. But I'm not a criminal investigator. I'm not at the department of justice. I don't handle the various aspects of that criminal probe. So I'm not privy to that information.

There is an internal memorandum out of the agency's council office that relates that a significant number of grants were terminated based on a significant error in the investigation. agency's counsel office that relates that a significant number of grants were terminated based on a significant error, agency's words, in the terms and conditions for those grants. As the Washington Post reported today, an agency

lawyer warned officials that they had cited contractual language that did not apply to many of the grants the EPA had ended in recent weeks. Grants had been terminated on grounds that they no longer fit the agency's priorities, referring to a clause in their grants general terms and conditions that applied only to grants issued between August 13, 2020 and September 30, 2024, and almost half of the terminated grants were finalized outside of that relevant period. Have the grants impacted by this significant legal error been restored to the recipients? Senator, I've seen the reporting on that. We received your letter, in fact, two letters yesterday on this. I was not on that email. I think it was an email, not a memorandum. But I think we're working to track an answer down for you on that. My time has expired. Scott, that man probably wouldn't even gotten to a sit-down interview with you.

What was his position he was being reviewed upon in the committee? What was his position? A legal position? He was going to run... Environmental agency? EPA? I think he was going to run the Environmental agency? EPA? I think he was going to run the legal department of the EPA. No.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me see. Hold up. Yes, he was nominated to supervise 200 EPA lawyers. Okay, so here's the problem with the lack of experience, especially in lawyering

and giving legal advice and counsel. The problem is without the experience, you don't know what you don't know, including hiring people who are competent around you to advise you, one, but you don't even know what you don't know. So people can come to you and advise you, but they may have agendas. And because you don't have the experience, you don't know whether they got an agenda or not, whether it's been cross-referenced or cross-checked or thoroughly researched before you go give. God, the man had never even done a deposition well i'm getting to that so that i'm talking from a from a management standpoint he's never done a deposition he's never signed a legal pleading now he can argue that doj doug would be doing all the litigation but to go toJ, you've got to brief DOJ

and you've got to be able to give them advice and counsel or strategize with them on what the best approach is. Otherwise, they're going to just do whatever they want. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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public as to why this is a problem beyond the fact it just borders on the nonsensical. Okay. I'm going to translate, Mustafa, what Scott just said. Mustafa, I'm going to translate what Scott just said. And I have been trying my best not to cuss. A lot of our followers be like, Roland, please don't cuss. I got my kids watching.

So y'all, do me a favor. Turn the TV down for 10 seconds. I'm gonna start counting, and you can turn the television down. Because see, in this moment right here, I have to say it in a way that is a proper translation for what Scott just said. So if y'all do not want to hear me cuss,

I'm going to do a countdown. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Turn the volume down. The translation, Mustafa, for Scott, all that he just said is he don't know what the fuck he doing he ain't got no fucking clue what

he is doing y'all can turn the volume now back up Mustafa you worked in the EPA this is a perfect example of somebody grossly unqualified. Anthony, go to my go to my iPad. And guess what?

Here's the headline. Republicans back EPA pick despite questions about qualifications. Now, for all y'all who were wondering, oh, my goodness, who are those Republicans? So when you hear these assholes talking about this here, here are the individuals. This is the majority. These are the Republicans. Shelley Moore Capito out of West Virginia. Kevin Cramer, Cynthia Loomis, John Curtis, punk ass Lindsey Graham, who kisses so much MAGA ass, he's now brownface. Dan Sullivan, Pete Ricketts, Roger Wicker of Mississippi, John Boozman, John Husted. These are the Republicans. So guess what?

I bet not he a now one of these white Republicans talk about DEI and merit and who's qualified when they voted for a grossly unqualified white man. It ain't even a conversation. Yeah, that's amazing. You know, I've worked with both Democrat and Republican leads of the Office of General Counsel. All of them were talented. You know, people come with different policies, and then they have to make recommendations to the administrator. This person, I take—I can't even believe that they're sitting there going through

that confirmation process. I mean, you know, I've lectured on environmental law everywhere from Howard to Harvard, you know, all—every everybody who's in between. And for him not to have the experience to even be sitting in that chair to be given consideration says something about this administration and how they feel about protecting our communities and our country from toxic pollution, from this individual would have to be a part of conversations with a number of folks well-versed on the legal side of the equation from business and industry, as well as nonprofit organizations. For him not to understand the federal acquisition

regulations that are a part of some of the things that we see going on right now around some of the contracts and grants that are out there that are going through these changes that are currently going on. I can't imagine this individual sitting there and having any real knowledge about the Clean Air Act or the Clean Water Act or RCRA or a number of the different acts that the Environmental Protection Agency Foundation is built upon. And that's scary because, you know, this is someone and, you know, Scott talked about sort of the dance between the Department of Justice and EPA. And that's just one side of the equation. I would be very, very concerned with a number of the other sets of conversations that he would have to have with individuals who know the game and are looking for opportunities to exploit it. So the person who sits in that chair, at least in all those folks who I work with, they were knowledgeable in a very deep way about the law, but they also

understood, you know, the different things that people do to try and, you know, find the best positioning for their, you know, whoever they're representing. And this person is woefully unexperienced to be a part of those conversations, especially since we've seen not only at EPA, but a number of other agencies and departments that, you know, they've hollowed out those respective entities. So he would be there pretty much like a babe in the woods, and people would just devour him, even with them not actually caring about, you know, the environment and public health.

Right. This is very dangerous, a very dangerous situation for these, you know, these representatives to even give this person consideration. So Derek, Derek, somebody in the chat said, Roland, please cuss. Derek, here's the thing that's crazy. This story about them picking, it was April 2nd. It was April 2nd. It's April 8th. Chuck Schumer, what the hell are you doing?

I would be amplifying this story like crazy with them running around talking about who not qualified, all that sort of stuff. I would be going, how in the hell can y'all advance this pathetic... I would be... I would make this white man,

Sean Donahue, the poster child of white privilege. I would be throwing this in the face of Elon, JD, and Trump. What the hell is, I saw this clip on Twitter. I ain't getting, I ain't seen no press release. Didn't nobody hype this up. This is a perfect example of, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. When you have Democrats who are who are slew footed, slow, who who don't understand terms of how you move. I saw this the other day. Ken Martin put out a tweet where he said that, oh, here it is, yesterday. Let me show you all this tweet.

Let me let you comment. We are launching a new DNC war room. We are going to compete in every information space and put Trump and the Republicans on the defense every day. At this very moment, Trump is actively wrecking our country. He can't go unchallenged. Say dog, this is a perfect example. If I'm him, I'm saying to Democrats, don't y'all say

another damn word about merit and DEI with this pathetically unqualified man. His ass will be the poster child right now, Derek, of every Democrat. You're absolutely

right, Roland, but he won't be the only one, right? No, no, but you gotta start one, but you gotta talk about one, at least. At least talk about one, right? But this is the most inept, unfit, unqualified

cabinet ever for 248 years. The most inept, incompetent, unqualified, unfit cabinet, starting from the president to this individual. They continue to demonstrate, Roland, which is the point that I appreciate you highlighting this evening, because merit has always been a qualifier for us. We always had to get two or three degrees. We always had to be top of our class. We always, right? Right. I remember reading Earl Gray's senior book and he was talking about the two sets of rules. And you also expounded upon that a few weeks ago when Robert Kennedy was going through the nomination process. And I remember you saying Robert Kennedy is not even in health care. This is the same individual, Roland, that advised folks how to deal with measles

by taking vitamin A and cod liver oil. And now those same children are having liver problems. Right. The measles outbreak. But here's, okay, I got all that, but here's my point. I want to stay focused on this guy. This is my whole point. You can't make the argument broad. You have to narrow it. all that, but here's my point. I want to stay focused on this guy, because this is my whole point. You can't make the argument broad.

You have to narrow it. Scott, the point here is this here. You have to make someone the poster child. You have to hold somebody as the example. And I'm saying what Democrats should be doing, Democrats should be hitting these fools back saying, y'all actually have the audacity, the unmitigated gall to talk about DEI and any DEI programs and people being unqualified. Here is a grossly unqualified, incompetent person to lead the EPA's legal room of 200

lawyers. The man ain't never supervised more. You saw how he even said six to eight and they all weren't even lawyers. The man, they never supervised more. You saw how he even said six to eight, and they all weren't even lawyers. Hell, I done talked to more lawyers than his ass likely has. Well,

here's the thing. As an associate at a small firm in Buffalo, because there are no really big firms in Buffalo, he was an associate Damn, damn, Scott. Damn, Scott, that's some shade. Yeah, I know. But six or eight and supervised, there may have been one,

maybe two attorneys at best because as an associate, and you've only been there a year and a half, you're not really supervising anybody. It's not like you're a partner. But here's the thing. He lasted one year. I know. But don't miss this part.

Think about there's an arrogance part to this on the Republican side. He wasn't even well prepared. They could care less about his qualifications, but they could care less about him being prepared to either shield or cover his lack of experience to be, if he was young, if he was brilliant, if he was competent and he was well-prepared, he would present 10 times better. But they didn't even prep him. In fact, Sheldon House even told him, said, you should be more well-prepared, because those two orders, judicial orders and decisions used by Sheldon, I was waiting for Sheldon to tell me, tell us the holding in those cases. I guarantee you he didn't know the holdings in those cases.

And he gave him somewhat of the holding, and he still was fumbling through it. And so it's the arrogance that jumps out at me of not being well-prepared on top of the base level of incompetence that you want to try to cover up. You got to try to cover it. You're in the U.S. Senate. My goodness. But what that is,

it is sheer arrogance that, you know what, we can just throw anybody and the Republicans not going to say a word, and we can just go. They're going to sit here and do whatever I want again. But, again, make him the poster child. I got to go ahead.

I got to hit y'all with this here because I'm just. Let us show up unprepared. Oh, hold on. Let me real clear. They crucified us. Hold on. First of all, we wouldn't even have the chance to show up unprepared because we would be unprepared to even get nominated.

I got to go ahead and do this. I mean, I'm so sick and tired of her ass. I'm sorry. I keep telling folk that these idiots in MAGA, this ain't nothing but a TV show to them, okay? The whole country's a TV show. And Kristi Noem really thinks she Farrah Fawcett. Go Farrah.

Go Farrah. She think, I think she's figuring out that they're trying to recast the reboot of Charlie's Angels. And so she's like, forget Drew Barrymore, forget Cameron Diaz, and forget, who was the Asian woman? I forgot

her name. We ain't seen her in a long time. Lisa Lou. Forget her. I think Christy Noem is really trying out for a new role. So her ignorant ass released this video. And I love this tagline. Nice to see the secretary of Homeland Security all equipped and prepared, including her hair extensions, fake eyelashes and wearing a $60,000 Rolex Rolex watch to hunt down the bad guys. Maybe it's with the success of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence and bad boys. She wants to be the star of bad girls.

I don't know what the hell it is. Y'all, watch this bullshit. Here we are with Marco and Brian today. They're letting me roll with them. We're going to go out and pick up somebody who I think has got charges of human trafficking. We earlier had an op that swept up somebody who was wanted for murder. So we appreciate the good work that they do every day, and we appreciate them working to make America safe. Ain't nobody sitting here looking for your trifling ass to be out there all dressed up like you in the movie,

holding a damn gun like that. And in fact, let me go ahead and find it. I saw Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego drop this. He responded, let me go ahead and hold on. Don't pull it up yet. Don't pull it up yet.

Because I want to blow it up. Because this cracked me the hell up when he gave some commentary on her trifling ass, staying up there looking like a damn fool, holding this gun up. And so hold on one second. And this is this is a Democrat. You can tell he loved guns. I think I can't I can tell this is Ruben Gallego or this is Robert Petillo. But he said, number one, go, go, he said, close your ejection port. Number two, if you have no rounds in the chamber, why do you have a magazine inserted?

Number three, if you have rounds in the chamber or in the magazine, why are you flagging the guy next to you? Number four, stop deporting people without due process. I mean, this is some silly shit, Derek. She literally is playing dress up every damn day. She done went through the entire Department of Homeland Security costume

department. We done seen photos of her ass on horses, on boats, in helicopters. I mean, she is straight up trying to get cast in a Hollywood movie. Hey,

Roland, she wants to be the modern-day G.I. Jane Part 2. But the reality is, as a retired military officer, he's exactly right. She is holding the weapon wrong. She's exposing everything that you should not do.

This clearly demonstrates again, which is the point of your previous segment, and that is they are unfit, unqualified individuals. And when you have that, they continue to demonstrate that they don't care. They don't understand policies. They don't care about policies. They don't care about national security, and they don't care about the person they're standing next to, because I'll be afraid, Roland, if that weapon was fully locked

and loaded and ready to go, that individual very well may not be breathing anymore because she can very well discharge a weapon that would take him out. Yeah, so again, listen, I done shot a gun twice.

That's the most overrated shit I've seen in my life. I shot a machine gun at the FBI Citizens Academy. I was like, man, I'm going to play golf. Y'all can have this bullshit. I mean, it didn't do nothing for me. I mean, nothing. Not a damn thing. I mean, it just didn't do nothing for me. I mean, nothing. Not a damn thing.

I was like, this it? But I got to give Senator Gallego, not only he popped that tweet out of Mustafa, he also did this video here. Hilarious as hell. Watch. You seen this picture? Let me explain to you how this is all cosplay. Number one, anyone that's ever been in combat, whether it's Marines, been an officer or anything

else like that, you would never wear a flak jacket like that. Sloppy, put on, it's like it's snag on something you've tried to breach a door, go through any kind of very high intensity situation. Number two, what's going on with the ejection port there? Either means that there's a round in chamber or you're just being a slap and keep it open. Number three, you have a magazine inserted.

That tells me you likely have a round in chamber. And if you have a round in chamber, the most important thing you have to always deal with dealing with weapons handling is you have to assume every weapon is loaded. And you're pointing that weapon directly at that guy's head to the left-hand side. So that is a problem, Secretary Noem. And number four, the bigger and biggest problem of all, stop deporting people without due process. You continue to deport innocent men and women that have rights to stay here, and you're deporting them out of this country

when they should be here and have a right to stay here. And we know damn well that if a Democrat was holding that gun that same way, these Second Amendment lovers would be losing their mind, Mustafa. Yeah, I mean, he hit it on the head. I was sitting here thinking also that this administration is big on cosplay. I mean, you got all these folks who have no idea what they're doing. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Hold on. I'm just going to just one suggestion, Fred. Here's the deal. Average people don't use cosplay. I'm just saying average people don't talk that way. We should say this ain't no movie. Everybody understand that? No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, average people don't talk that way. We should say, this ain't no movie. Everybody understand that. No, I'm just saying. I'm serious. When I heard

him say it, I was like, cosplay? What the fuck is cosplay? I'm like, I don't use cosplay. I'm like, was that Bill Cosby in a play? I'm like, what cosplay? That's just me. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, no, no. That's all good, but I would say a lot of younger people actually do understand what cosplay is because it's a part of the lexicon.

But they got to say it's a movie. Well, what is it? Well, what is it? I ain't never heard of it either. Cosplay is when people like dress up and pretend that they are a character. So can we just say play dress up? Well, you can say dress up. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My bad. I'm sorry. No, it's all good. I mean, the reality is, is that, you know, I grew up on gun ranges,

so I kept hearing my father's voice in my ear when they were breaking down all the different things that they were doing incorrectly. But besides that, you know, the real reality of the situation is, is that these people are unserious about protecting our country. They're unserious about people's rights. They're unserious about so many things. And it just manifests itself. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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And then after whatever took place, then they show up. So we just need to make sure that we understand this game that's going on and that we have something to do about it. And if you don't like what you're seeing, if you don't like people being deported unjustly, if you don't like having individuals who have no experience, who have no merit in the positions that they are, then do something about it in the midterms. Scott. Yeah, you know, I always crack up when I see Kristi Noem with the picture with the prisoners behind her, and then she's got the baseball cap on, or she's got the cardboard cap on. I mean, it's the marketing of MAGAism, the marketing of Trump. There's no depth and substance to any of the agencies or even to Donald Trump. Did you see this one here? Is this her cowboy Carter look?

Oh, yeah. See, again, though, that's all. Go ahead. A lot of makeup on. I mean, to Republican men, she's hot to them. And this kind of bad girl or good cop female chasing down bad guys, it's all about building an image that these directors who fan out and do the talk shows, they're all selling MAGA. They're all selling Trump. If you really think about it, many of them are talking about depth and substance. They're just marketing. Everything about the administration is marketing, whether it's Caroline Leavitt or the heads of these agencies or even Donald Trump. All he does is market. Every time he does a press conference with or without an agency head or if he's presenting something, he riffs on all of these talking points and these conflicts or what he hates about America. And it's just reinforced marketing, marketing, marketing.

And people who are not college educated, who are the least lost and left out, poor working white Americans, they will, oh, Fox 5 or Fox News, they listen to all of this rhetoric that is just rhetoric. He speaks in hyperbole, and he reinforces that every chance he gets, they're rapists and murderers, and we've got to get the Venezuelan gangs out. And he's just riffing, and it's all lies. Most of the things coming out are not just untruths, but they're just lies, and the data is counter to it. But it comes in such overwhelming fashion, even the media can't just keep up with it. You talk about Mailman having a rapid response team.

That's good. But the Republican rhetoric and lies just comes so fast. You forget about all the nonsense that they say. But his voters and even those who are not his voters just eat it up, find it is true. He's got the power of the presidency behind him. Nobody challenges it. And so it becomes his truth got the power of the presidency behind him. Nobody challenges it. And so it becomes his truth and the truth of his voters and stuff. It's an amazing marketing machine more than anything, but it's based in falsity. And you can't keep up with it.

That's one of the best. He's one of the best marketeers there are. Until we keep up with it and until he drives us into a recession, Democrats have got to be able to show, blame him for the recession, blame him for inflation, right? But give Republicans an alternative. I'm sorry, Democrats and all voters an alternative to him, not an alternative that they don't like. Not only blame him, but tell them their story and how they're going to make it better for them. Until we do that, I'm sorry the Republicans can continue to get reelected if they're better marketers than the Democrats. And right now they are. But this is the point that I was just making when we talk about holding that guy up. You have to understand narrative. Also, we're living in the age of social media, Derek. This is not the days of newspapers where it comes out the next day,

radio and television. It's now immediate. If you are not crafting a message that has memes, using photos, using videos, then you're not telling a story. And that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm saying. I would make Sean Donahue the face of no talent, no merit, and I would say, oh, you dumbasses want to attack DEI, but y'all voted for this fool? I would embarrass them. I would beat his ass across the head every single day

and say, this is one of the most unqualified people that have ever come before us, and you fools just voted for him. But they are too nice about it. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Again, Roland, you're absolutely spot on, and I agree with Scott and Mustafa. You know, the only two points I would add, Roland,

to the point about social media and pushing that narrative is that we'll be telling the truth. See, that's the difference between Don the Con. Every time I get a new answer, I call him Don the Con. I do not call him a great marketer. He is not a marketer. I'm in marketing. That's what I do, you know, for a living. Like Scaramucci.

I know Scott's got to go, but I'm going to show this here. Scaramucci. Hold on. I got to do it. No, no, don't go too yet. I got to. No, no, no. Again, no, because literally I was sitting here.

I was looking at these Twitter comments as he was talking, and I saw this. He's a perfect example that when you talk because you said marketing literally as you were talking And I know this is Anthony Scaramucci and we know he was a Trump supporter in the first time But this we talk about marketing Matter of fact here to go. Hey Keenan do me a favor Put this on a t-shirt and put it on our site MagaGA chose between woke or broke. They chose broke. But that's what Bob said. From a marketing standpoint, Scott, Derek, and Mustafa, that's what I'm

talking about. Republicans talking bumper stickers. There you go. Oh, y'all didn't like woke. Y'all like broke. Boom. Scott, now you got to go. All right, Kappa. Later. Oh, and Scott, thank you got to go. All right, Kappa. Later. Oh, and Scott, thank you. I gave you money today, and you didn't mention money.

No, no, no. See, Scott, see right there. See right there. That's how arrogant your little ass is. See, I was just about to thank you for your donation. Like, literally, I'm about to thank you, but your little ego, you ain't thank me publicly for my donation. I was literally just

about to say, y'all, today, Scott... Come on, let's have it. I'm not going to do it until after you sign off. Thank you, Kappa Man. No, I'm not going to do it until after you sign off. See, right there. Thank you for your support.

Thank you. Are you now Marvin Sapp? You going to lock the doors? Come on, one time. You not Marvin? You not your fellow cap of Marvin Sapp? You going to lock the doors? I can't hear you.

I can't hear you. I can't hear you, dog. Come on. Just thank you, one time. I'm not going to do it after you sign off. See? See? See, you begging for it. See?

If you had simply allowed me to do it I would have done it And I'm his boy But it's two of the alphas on this panel And we don't bow down Alright guys, one love Where's my alpha sign? There you go

There it is, alright now You've been wanting to do that your whole life And guess what? Go ahead and throw it up, Mustafa And guess what? I'm telling All right now. You've been wanting to do that your whole life. And guess what? Hey, go ahead and throw it up, Mustafa. And guess what? I'm telling you right now, Scott. Scott, and I'm posting that shit on social. You throwing an alpha sign. So I'm just letting you know. Scott, it's going to be a screenshot. Go ahead, Mustafa. Go ahead, Derek. It's going to be a screenshot of

Scott wishing, wishing he could wear the black and old gold. Okay. There you go. There you go. There you go. Now get on out of here. Thank you. I appreciate it, Scott.

Thanks a lot. Derek, go ahead and make your point. Then I'm going to do this last story. Go ahead. Yeah, we definitely have to do a better job on making sure we tie that social media piece, because not only will be able to frame the conversation and the narrative, but the algorithm, the algorithm. I mean, Roland, you constantly, Don DeCon, hashtag convicted felon, hashtag, you know, 34 felonies. And that algorithm picks up. So every time I get on my Facebook and Twitter and other platforms, that algorithm continue to follow not only what I'm doing, but everybody that follows me. And so we got to frame that conversation. And the second and last point, Roland, is this. We have to do

this now more than ever before, because that midterm will make or break us, because in 2030, we get a chance to redraw the congressional lines across the United States. And the last thing we need at the state level, we got a little mini-Trumper, and he thinks he's going to be running for governor next year. And he has pushed all of Trump's agendas. And so we got to look at this thing twofold, both at the federal level and at the state level. Y'all, racist Marjorie Taylor Greene married a racist. We showed y'all the video. Roll the video, y'all.

This is video of her racist ex-husband who was literally cussing out Muslim women who were just trying to play. Roll some of this. That's really good. No, go back to your country, because y'all believe in Christ. question. You're a minority. Go back to your country, please. Okay.

We don't vote y'all. That's perfect, thank you. Yes, we don't vote you. Okay, thank you. No one brought anything to you, brother. It wasn't me. I brought it to you. I don't want your shit.

Nobody really wants your shit here. Did we bother you personally though? Yes, yes. Okay, I'm sorry, you can- Y'all wanna kill gays, y'all wanna do all kind of crazy. Where are y'all from? What country are you from? It doesn't matter where we're from.

It does not though. Why does it matter to you then? It doesn't matter where we're from. It does not, though. Why does it matter to you, then? It does because you're worshiping a false god. No. Yes, it is. Are you Christian? Yes.

All right, that's... Well, racist Perry Green decided to issue an apology speaking near a mosque. Here's the bigot. Did nobody check the audio? Okay, well, I don't know. Anyway, so, so, Lil Perry, y'all, Lil Perry went before the cameras and he apologized. Let's see if I can actually find, play it myself. Where he stood before with one of the women

and he spoke and he was all sorrowful for his actions, for him, for his racist ways. Give me a second. I'm about to play it. All right, here we go. So that was a news conference that took place. It was a 16-minute news conference. Now, we're not going to play the full news conference,

but this is one of the women speaking. In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful. My name is Nazia Khanzada, and I serve as the communications manager for the Georgia chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy group. Today, we will not be endorsing the view. Harry was sitting here offering his apology. Now, look, he didn't speak long. The little racist didn't speak long. So watch this here. Go to it. Oh, here we go. Let's see here.

Here we go. Hello, everyone. I came today just to meet with the young ladies that I was mean to and treated disrespectfully about their religion and about what they were doing. And I just wanted them to know that I humbly apologize to them because nobody should be treated that way. And that's not the right way for us to treat anybody with any differences. And that's what we came to do. And hopefully they'll find it in their hearts to forgive me. And we shouldn't allow that in our society.

But thank you. Mr. Green will not be taking any questions. First of all, we should not allow it in our society. Oh, Mustafa, your ass did it. I mean, it's, you know, what are you going to say about these types of folks?

I mean, it's, the know, what are you going to say about these types of folks? I mean, it's the hate is so deep inside of them that they often don't even understand what they're doing, what they're they understand what they're saying, but they don't even understand what God is actually all about. It's amazing. You know, religious hate crimes are up in the country. There are a couple of different studies out there that show that right now. We know that very few people often talk about Islamophobia. And we know that there are increases that have happened there. Of course, anti-Semitism, we know what's going on in that space. And, you know, these individuals, they're so antiquated in the way that they think, you know, that they continue to hold on to all this various type of hate. And unfortunately, when somebody sees somebody of his level because of who he used to be married to making these types of things, it makes others think that it's OK for them to do it as well. And then, of course, they hear this rhetoric, you know, all the way up to the top.

So we have to call it out where it is. And we've got to make sure that folks continue to push back. And there's a reason why we have hate crimes legislation. And, you know, I hope that those sisters are not only safe, but I hope that they also give some consideration to other steps that they might want to take. The race is going racist. Listen, I watched that live when it took place here in Georgia. And the very first thing that came to my mind, Roland, I said, you know, I get it. You know, this apology. But I personally think that racist apologies are insufficient. I think especially when there is no clear demonstration of accountability.

He didn't say that, hey, I'm going to spend 10, 20, 30 hours at the mosque. Nothing he said even added that he felt remorse, make it more meaningful. And so I just think that when we hear these kind of apologies rolling, my humble opinion, we need to hold people accountable. We need to hold them accountable to the degree where their words will go beyond just simple words. It will actually transform their behavior. It will help contribute to push our society progressively forward to make it more inclusive, make it more equitable.

And so I just think his apology was just very empty. I ain't accepting his apology at all. Now, the attorney representing the woman told a local TV station they are not seeking compensation but are discussing the possibility of green donating to a nonprofit focused on containing Islamophobia and promoting education. That's letting his ass off lightly. Y'all, one of the nation's oldest HBCUs, St. Augustine's in North Carolina, is a target of two new lawsuits.

Within the last two weeks, two major tech companies have filed lawsuits against the university seeking more than $18 million in unpaid bills. These lawsuits come on the heels of St. Augustine recently losing its accreditation due to concerns over financial mismanagement and lack of oversight. One company, SBA Connect, says the university owes them more than $16 million. Yeah, I said that right, $16 million with regards to their IT infrastructure. Okay, what the hell? So when you look at the particular lawsuit, they lay out that they already had a contract,

but then all of a sudden they decided to grab another person while they already have the contract. So this lawsuit actually kind of makes no sense. Again, the university, they owe them, the company says they owe them $60 million in early termination fees after defaulting on a contract one year after it was signed. Another local firm of area claims university owes them $1.3 million for IT infrastructure services that are still being provided. See, this is why we're going there on Friday to talk about it.

And we've invited university leadership. We've invited the Board of Trustees. Have they accepted our invitation? No, they have not. Now, anybody who knows us knows we support HBCUs. So if you're St. Augustine's and you're asking the public to help you throughout this situation, then you might want to be a hell of a lot more open and transparent with what is going on. So Friday, join us in Raleigh. We want to see all y'all out there.

If you are friends, family, students, faculty, staff, you want to join us. Come to Martin Street Baptist Church for the town hall taking place on Friday. Doors open at 5 p.m. This really is about giving people at St. Augustine, alumni and others, giving them a voice to what is going on because the people who are leading St. Augustine, its board chair, its board of trustees, and its administration, that's what they're not doing.

So we're going to absolutely be there. So looking forward to that. All right, folks. Let me thank Derek. Let me thank Mustafa for being on today's panel. Scott Jones as well. Let me thank Scott for his donation as well. We're going to close the show out this way. Reverend Bishop William Barber was one of the many speakers who spoke in D.C.

on Saturday at the protests that were taking place led by Indivisible. There were a lot of different speakers. There were some people who spoke too damn long. Hey, I got to go ahead and say this right now. Congressman Jamie Raskin, please, I need y'all to sit y'all ass down. Do y'all understand that Jamie Raskin, when he spoke on Saturday, spoke for 37 damn minutes. Let me be real clear. If you were speaking at a rally

and they got like 50 other speakers, didn't nobody ask you to give a sermon? Didn't nobody ask for no keynote address? That's like the person who gets an award at a banquet and you're the keynote speaker. They want to get up there and talk for 30 minutes. They didn't come pay to actually see your ass. Just get your award. Say thank you.

Give your 60-second comments, sit the hell down. I'm tired of these people inviting politicians to these events, and they want to give long damn speeches. You don't even have that. Listen, 30 minutes, 37 minutes is utterly ridiculous, okay? Yeah, I had to go

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcasts. God help us not to turn back from the vision of our Constitution, that is to establish justice, to promote the general welfare, to provide for the common defense and to ensure domestic tranquility. When Trump and Musk and Johnson and their minions are signing unconstitutional executive orders,

unconstitutionally firing people, trying to pass an unjust budget, and wrongfully raising tariffs that will not only hurt Wall Street, but backstreet and side streets and side roads. budget and wrongfully raising tariffs that will not only hurt Wall Street but backstreet and side streets and side roads. When they are doing this we must say every day we will stand up in truth and raise our voices and votes and declare take your hands off of our democracy. Their foolish budget plans could remove 36 million people from health care and millions of poor and low-wage children from school lunch and refuse to raise the living wage for 14 million low-wage working American people from $7.25 to $17 an hour. We must pray for God to give us the courage to stand and say, take your hands off Medicaid. Take your hands off our voting rights. Take your hand off our living wages.

Take your hand off our public education. Take your hand off our public education. Take your hands off of our lives. When greedy technocrats with a supremacy philosophy want to rule the country, we with moral vigor and righteous indignation must stand up and say no. We cannot be at ease in America. History is pushing us. The present is demanding us and the future is calling us. I said in 2018 that every age must have a movement of people that will build a moral fusion mass movement that stands together, that stands together because the issues before us are not about left versus right or Republican versus Democrat, but about right versus wrong and justice versus injustice. justice. And with the help of the divine, we must unite more and more declaring that we are black, we are white, we are Latino, we are Asian, we are native, we are young,

we are old, we are north, we are south, we are east, we are west, we are gay, we are straight, we are trans, we are America, and we ain't going nowhere. God, give us the strength. We will not allow a budget that goes after the policies that lift the poor and low-wage workers of this nation. We will not accept the attacks on federal workers. We will not accept them, not now, not ever. And we will prayerfully, with no equitation, no capitulation, no weakness, declare with all that is holy and divine, We cannot, we must not bow. We must reclaim our government.

We must pledge ourselves to the work of the third reconstruction of America. We must lift every voice and sing together. We must lead with love and repent of the apathy that has too often slipped in. We cannot bow. Finally, they are afraid of you. Trump and Musk, who want to be dictators and want to be kings and lords, they are afraid of the power of love and truth and justice. They are afraid of your unity and your diversity.

Well, let's keep them afraid until they change. My friends, this is way bigger than just a party issue. This is an outright battle for civilization. And the they all have your power to come together and they are betting that we will be afraid of them. But this is the time that we must increase, intensify and embolden our agitation for what is right. we must declare that the only way a wannabe king can be king is if we bow, but bowing down is not an option. Our needs aren't made for bowing. We are not going to bow to power-drunk neo-fascist extremists. We only bow to God.

And so we must stand tall. When they attack everyday people with mean, hurtful policies, we must stand tall as they take your hands off of our lives. So stand up to the technocrats. If I'm trying to stand tall, I'm standing up to the technocrats. We must mobilize our righteous bodies and our voices and our hearts by the millions. We must stand tall because bowing down is not an option. It might take mass call-ins, but stand tall because bowing down is not an option. It might take mass call-ins but stand tall.

It might take mass sit-ins but stand tall. It might take non-violent civil disobedience and they might arrest us but stand tall. It might take mass pray-ins, but stand tall. It might take class action lawsuits, but stand tall. It might take having a labor strike day on election day so that working people can vote. But stand tall. Stand tall in every precinct. Stand tall in every voting district. Stand tall in every voting district. Stand tall in every city. Stand tall in every state. Stand tall in truth.

Stand tall in love. Stand tall in justice. Stand tall and demand that they take their hands off our democracy and the god of the universe will be with us stand tall bowing down say it with me bowing down bowing down bowing down is not an option. Stand! Stand! Stand! Roll Chronicles. One of the folks who's not scared to bow down is Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Time for the Crockett Chronicles. Well, they had a congressional hearing today,

and trust me, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett was not playing around when it comes to Donald Trump having his fat ass on a golf course every damn weekend. Roll it. I now recognize Ms. Crockett from Texas for five minutes. Thank you so much, Madam Chair, and I can tell you one thing that is crumbling for the city of D.C. was that continuing resolution that defunded approximately a billion dollars from them.

But I will focus on today's hearing. The Republicans' recklessness and chaotic approach to reducing the size of government has shown us what we've already known. Concepts of a plan don't work. This is the committee's fourth hearing, and still no one from the so-called Department of Government Efficiency has testified before this committee about their plans to break the federal government. Because as it turns out, breaking the federal government doesn't just hurt people you don't like, it's not just going to be Democrats who miss out on Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, or only Democratic veterans who miss out on their VA benefits. Their approach will negatively impact all Americans. So it's unfortunate that Republicans

have taken a seemingly bipartisan issue and included it as part of their scam to subsidize tax giveaway for billionaires. They haven't proposed anything that will improve the efficiency of the government. Instead, they have put the country on a path to a recession and implemented the largest tax increase on Americans in decades through Trump's tariffs. This hearing is their latest attempt to try to convince the American people that dismantling public-facing agencies will somehow improve government efficiency. Let me tell you, it won't.

There's nothing efficient about terminating leases for IRS taxpayer assistance centers during tax season, nor dismantling farmer support offices in rural communities while farmers are trying to survive Trump's tariffs. And just like their trade policy, there isn't any logic or strategy behind the Trump administration's reductions in forced or accelerated disposal of federally owned property. It has been discussed that managing federal property has been on GAO's high risk list for more than two decades. Currently, GAO has almost 60 recommendations that the administration could fully implement, but decided to ignore it.

And I'm gonna veer off for two seconds because all I kept hearing was fire. Fire, fire, fire is what I heard. And as I heard fire, it seems like we are talking about an administration that has been hell bent on firing government workers. They are hell bent on engaging in fire sales of our government buildings. And while we are at it, they are lighting the Social Security on fire, Medicaid on fire,

Medicare on fire, 401ks on fire, Department of Education on fire. And instead, what we need to light on fire are Trump's tariffs. In fact, we could probably go a little bit further and fire this incompetent administration. But if we are going to talk about efficiency and worry about some solar paneled whatever's, let's talk about the fact that as of March 30th, Trump's golfing has cost us approximately $26 million. And the last time I checked, we're not getting anything in return for that. So I will get back on my remarks, but I just wanted to point out that maybe we need to talk about the president and his golfing habits. In fact, he decided that he was going to golf as the markets were tanking.

He decided he was going to golf instead of receiving for heroes who died serving this country. He has decided that he wanted to play games while the rest of us are really trying to make sure that we can serve the American people. So Mr. Maroney, you were quoted in the New York Times article dated March 17th, stating that it is important for officials to have a plan to generate the most savings and that, quote, all of these moving parts point to the need for some deliberate planning. Did the administration consult with GAO regarding their plans to dispose of hundreds of federally owned buildings? No. In your testimony, you highlight that one of the core issues associated

with managing federal property is the lack of reliable data to support decision making. Is that correct? Yes. Would reducing GSA's workforce by 50% improve data gathering and analysis? I cannot say they're not. That's perfectly fine. We know that we need experts and not idiots, but Mr. Kendall, we will move on. In your written testimony, you state some of the actions of this administration suggest that the administration is not following a strategy designed to save taxpayer money and that the administration seems to ignore agency's mission integrity. Why do you think that? You've got 20 seconds. In the list of projects, there were

a couple score social security offices, IRS, taxpayer service offices, which those agencies, those end user agencies wanted, and yet the administration is canceling those leases. So it does imperil mission accomplishment. Thank you so much. Oh, you're back. She's right. $26 million for them to fly home every weekend.

And last weekend, when those four soldiers, their bodies were returned to Dover, Donald Trump was playing in a golf tournament at his course. That's who that punk is.

So that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with a golfing fanatic who's in the Oval Office. And every time he flies, massive amounts of money being spent. It's costing taxpayers three to four million dollars every single weekend. And he had the audacity to complain about President Biden. That's who he is. Alright, folks. That is it for us. I certainly appreciate y'all watching today's show. Thank you so very much.

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