#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Sen. Padilla Dragged & Detained, LA ICE Raids Tear Families Apart & 2K ‘No Kings’ Protests

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

6.12.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Sen. Padilla Dragged & Detained, LA ICE Raids Tear Families Apart & 2K ‘No Kings’ Protests When U.S. Senators are being handcuffed for asking questions, we've got a serious problem. We've got the video and the backlash after Senator Alex Padilla was dragged out and detained for challenging Homeland Security. Meanwhile, Trump's crackdown in L.A. is tearing Black and Brown families apart. Thousands of troops, ICE raids, and a legal showdown are underway. Legal expert Arnold Bray is here to break it down. And this weekend it's about to go down. "No Kings" protests will hit nearly 2,000 cities while Trump throws himself a Birthday parade in D.C..... Trump's is warning for demonstrators ahead of the protest. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wait until we show you the shocking video of California Senator Alex Padilla when he was trying to question Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and how he was accosted by federal agents. Boy, it is unbelievable. And trust me, Democratic senators are angry, upset, so are House members. Meanwhile, Donald Trump's crackdown in LA is tearing black and brown families apart. Thousands of troops are there on the ground. You also have an absolutely outstanding and crazy situation of curfews as well. We have a retired lieutenant general in the United States Army who will be on the talk

about this just improper use of the military. Plus, Donald Trump, how he turned a partisan speech at Fort Bragg, a speech at Fort Bragg into really a partisan throwdown. Plus, this weekend's going down, the no kings protest is going to hit some 2,000 cities across the country as Donald Trump spends $100 billion on a military parade birthday celebration under the guise of celebrating the 250 years of the United States Army.

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Senator from a news conference where Department of Homeland Security Ice Barbie Kristi Noem was speaking. That Senator is Alex Padilla. Folks, NBC News political and national correspondent, Jacob Soboroff. He captured the moment where Padilla was forcefully taken from the room, take it to don't play it yet, take it to the floor and handcuff. Now he was trying to hold on one second guys. Padilla was trying to, he was first of all invited there for briefing with Noem. He was, he was, she was speaking. He was, he wanted to ask her a question,

and that's when these federal agents did this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hands up, hands up. Senator Alex Padilla, I have a question for the secretary, because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen violent criminals that you're rotating on your...

Hands up! On the ground, on the ground, on the ground. Hands up on your back, hands up on your ground. Hands upon your back. Hands upon your back. If you let me, if you let my hands go, I'll put them behind my back. Alright, alright, alright. Cool. Hands on your hands. Lay flat. Lay flat. Other hand, sir? Other hand. There's no recording allowed out here.

I did not know. There's no recording allowed out here for up guy rights. What? I'm sorry? There's no recording allowed out here. That's my boss. There's no recording allowed out here. You can report there's no recording allowed out here. Then folks, the ICE folks lie.

They put out a statement saying that Padilla never identified himself. You hear him say on the video, he is a United States senator. Well, after being briefly detained, Padilla spoke to reporters. Over the course of the last, over the course of recent weeks, I, several of my colleagues, have been asking the Department of Homeland Security for more information and more answers on their increasingly extreme immigration enforcement actions. And we've gotten little to no information in response to our inquiries. And so I came to the press conference to hear what she had to say,

to see if I could learn any new additional information. And at one point, I had a question. And let me emphasize, just as we emphasize the right for people to peacefully protest and to stand up for their First Amendment rights, for our fundamental rights. I was there peacefully. At one point, I had a question. And so I began to ask a question. I was almost immediately forcibly removed from the room.

I was forced to the ground. And I was handcuffed. I was not arrested. I was not detained. I will say this. If this is how this administration responds to a senator with a question. If this is how the Department of Homeland Security responds to a senator with a question, you can only imagine what they're doing to farm workers, to cooks, to day laborers out

in the Los Angeles community and throughout California and throughout the country. We will hold this administration accountable. Folks, the actions against Senator Padilla unleashed Democrats on Capitol Hill. They were angry, they were fired up and were shocked and stunned by the actions. Now, mind you, one of these federal agents included an FBI officer. It was unbelievable what took place. This is New Jersey Senator Cory Booker on the United States Senate floor. Mr. President.

I recognize the senator from New Jersey. I never thought I would imagine having to stand here and discuss what I saw today. A United States senator in his own community, in the city in which he grew up, elected under the authority of the people, stepping forward to get answers to legitimate questions. And we see him being thrown to the ground

after being removed from a room forcibly and put into handcuffs by multiple people. This to me is such an abuse of authority. It is a violent act. act and there can be no justification of seeing a senator forced to their knees laid flat on the ground their hands twisted behind their back and being put into restraints. If you see the video at that point, he's not fighting, he's not pushing. But this is a pattern and a practice. This is not an isolated incident. I remind people that in my own community, in the city of Newark, we had a congresswoman

and a mayor at a facility, the mayor invited into the gate, the congresspeople invited into a conference room, and then the mayor asked to leave, who did leave, and then numerous agents run out to arrest that mayor. Now, the judge in this case said it was outrageous. Reprimanded the Trump administration for the arrest in and of itself. We see time and time again with this administration, trying to precipitate a response by the misuse and the abuse of force.

This is more akin to authoritarian governments. When you see a democratic nation having their executive begin to arrest mayors, begin to arrest judges, begin to arrest a United States senator who is simply asking for answers to their questions, to remove them from a room forcibly, to throw them to the ground, to put them in restraints. This is something that we should not tolerate. And by we, this is not Democrats and Republicans. This is we in this body.

We have a constitutional obligation to provide oversight to the executive, a constitutional obligation to ask questions, to make inquiries, a constitutional obligation to check and balance the authority of the executive. And so here we saw before our eyes a senator in their district, in their state, asking questions and we see him being shoved out of a room, but it did not stop there, shoved to the ground, shoved onto his belly, and have his arms pulled behind his back.

This should outrage every United States senator. This should outrage every United States senator. Folks, this was Senator Elizabeth Warren as she was headed to the Senate floor. Okay, we're going to have that in a second. Folks, folks, it's absolutely crazy. It's absolutely crazy. Let's roll the next video. Call it what it is, a disgraceful abuse of power. Senator Padilla was handcuffed and dragged out of for daring to ask a question.

This wasn't a threat, it's dissent. And they crushed it with force. They're not keeping us safe. They're trying to silence us. We won't back down. Folks, that is Congresswoman Norma Torres. It's just, I mean, just unbelievable what we're seeing. Not only that, we had, of course, again, we're going to show you what's in Elizabeth Warren

had to say. Then you had this major clash in the house between Congressman Maxwell Frost and James Comer and in that case, Modery Taylor Greene. And this thing just goes on and on and on. And Republicans, it's amazing how silent they are. I'm gonna bring my panel, I'm gonna play you some of this more video. Dr. Greg Card, Department of African-American Studies, Howard University out of DC, Recy Colbert, host of the Recy Colbert show and creator of Card Game. Am I tripping out of DC? Zabora G, EIA consultant, employment specialist out of Houston. Okay, so we have Greg and Recy. Here's the thing here, Recy, it is just nuts here.

And when you talk about an authoritarian regime, that's what this is. That's what Donald Trump wants to do. He wants to amass power. He wants to act like he has total control over every federal law enforcement officer. They can do what they want. We're going to talk a little bit later about the speech that he gave before the UN, before those troops at Fort Bragg, how they think these are my troops, I can do what I want,

and how they even were weeding out people who agree with him politically, which is never supposed to happen when it comes to the military. All of these people who played around and BSed, who told us, oh, y'all shilling for Democrats, y'all trying to scare us into voting. That man ain't gonna do all of this stuff.

We have exhibit 1,168, exhibit 1,169, and it's just every single day. And people don't seem to understand this is what he wants. We're not even at the six month mark of this idiot's second term. Yeah, I mean, look, who gonna check him? He's proving that everything he wants to do, he can do and ain't nobody gonna do a damn thing about it.

The reality is that we now have a single branch of government running the United States, running the federal government, and that's the authoritarian regime of Donald Trump. Republicans who are so hell-bent the other time on decorum and my friend and my friend across the aisle and how people are supposed to be buttoned up. I got a damn thing to say about a U.S. sitting senator being tackled by federal agents, and Kristi Noem, her stupid ass is just sitting up there rambling on like this is normal.

This is not normal. And to Senator Padilla's point, if they can act like this toward one of the most powerful people in this country, you know they gonna cut a whole ass or they already are against every day regular people. And so, change for the Republicans for their silence. But also, should the Democrats ever manage to get back in office, or for the remainder of this term, drop all of that camaraderie bullshit, drop all of that my friends across the aisle bullshit and treat them like how they would treat you. They've already deemed Democrats enemies of this

regime. Treat them with the same energy that they treating you. Maybe we can get somewhere, maybe people will start to realize that Democrats and Republicans are not two sides of the same coin. Greg, this is right here, the concern. There were so many people, and I've heard this from black folks in media, in other spaces, Democrats need to fight back. They need to be showing up at these places. They need to be protesting.

Listen, we saw it the other day when they slammed the door in the face of Congresswoman Maxine Waters trying to do her job. We saw that when Democrats were showing up at federal offices in Washington, D.C. We saw it. Cory Booker mentioned that. What happened to Mayor Roz Baraka? What happened to a member of Congress in New Jersey who they have now indicted as a result? And so unlike in any other situation, they are using the full force of the law to go after any dissent. And so they don't care if you are a House member, if you are a mayor, if you are a United

States Senator, if you have a deep, not only, not even damn if you're a Democrat Republican. Senator Rand Paul is complaining because he's against Trump's You know a budget bill Trump is a disinvited him to a bipartisan Cookout at the White House these people are about power and control. They are defying Judicial rulings. They are defying everything and the fundamental problem here is That the people who are in control of the House, Republicans, control the House of the Senate, Republicans, they are scared to death to put this man in check. They know what he's doing is wrong, but they won't say a word.

No, they won't. Nothing that is happening is surprising. We knew this is what they were going to do. Senator Beatty needs to pursue a legal course of action because they are not using the law. They are lawless. Kristi Noem is a liar to her DNA. The Department of Homeland Security put on their website another lie, saying that Senator Padilla disrupted the conference. And let's say that he did. There's a First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Generally speaking, there is sovereign immunity,

so law enforcement officials, it's very difficult to sue them without the government's consent. However, and this is parenthetically why Senator Padilla back in 2021 introduced the Accountability for Federal Law Enforcement Act, which would allow an easier pathway to sue. But he needs to pursue legal action. Even if he can't file a 1983 claim or go to civil court, he certainly needs to claim that these officers acting under color of law assaulted him and let the process work its way out. What they cannot do—I agree with Recy.

Not this my colleague and Cory Booker with his hand on his breast. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Senator Schiff had all the base in his voice when he was holding Trump accountable during the impeachment hearings, it's not I'm with Alex. No, no, I'm with the law. And Kristi Noem, you're not covered by Trump versus United States. Your ass going to jail as soon as these politics flip. And Stephen Miller, who's driving a great deal of this, you're going to jail too. Finally, we have to be clear about the

fact, just as Ras Baraka is suing Alina Hababa in New Jersey, the interim state attorney, just a federal attorney in New Jersey, you need to go to court and fight these people. They don't have that kind of muscle, that snot-nosed punk. Kevin Roberts, Dr. Roberts, one of the quarterbacks of Project 2025, said famously, as you reported and as we talked about last year, that this revolution would be nonviolent if the left allows it to be.

Well, guess what? No amount of peaceful protest, no amount of acquiescence is going to stop this. They are lawless and it's time to rein these rabid dogs in. And Senator Fidea needs to go to court. Roman, can I add one more thing? Folks, you got to go ahead. All this over Christy Fonky ass known,

this wasn't like the state of the union and Padilla was bum rushing the stage. This was a press conference with a low level cabinet secretary in a local area. This isn't even a federal building, and this is the extreme escalation of violence, this wasn't just a disproportionate response because they're just jacked up,

it's because they're trying to send a message, particularly to Democrats, that none of you are going to do a damn thing about anything that they want to Democrats, that none of you are going to do a damn thing about anything that they want to do, because this is just so extreme. Like I said, this is a low-level person. This isn't nobody high up on the floor. It wasn't like it was JD Vance or the Pope

or something up there. So the way that they feel so comfortable right now, you have military people yelling partisan things. They really are feeling themselves and smelling themselves right now. And unfortunately, there's no organized effort on the Democratic-elected side to make them have any fear about doing these things. Folks, this is Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass with her reaction.

And I just have to say, I served with the secretary. I served with the secretary for probably about 10 years in Congress. And Madam Secretary, I do not know, Kristi Noem, that I served with for 10 years. Folks, again, absolutely unbelievable. We talked about Senator Elizabeth Warren again. She was, I think, looks like she was going through a parking garage when this video, when she recorded this video. When Senator Padilla gets pushed, shoved, thrown to the, handcuffed, because he is asking questions, because he is engaging in the very oversight that senators are supposed to engage

in, then what we're really talking about here is a Trump administration that just wants to shut down the ordinary functions of government. Look, I don't want to oversight myself. I ask a lot of questions because that's how it works in a democracy. We use our words to hold people accountable. We don't use our fists. We don't shove. We don't try to hold people accountable. We don't use our fists. We don't shove.

We don't try to knock people down. We use our words. That's what oversight is all about. And that's what I want to go to the floor of the Senate to talk about. I think it is time for every senator, every member of Congress, Democrat or Republican, to stand up and say what Donald Trump has done is wrong. Things got also chippy in the U.S. House, where Congresswoman Maxwell Frost joked...

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to the record. A NBC article. Senator Alex Padilla removed from news conference with Homeland Security Secretary Noem. All right. Without objection to order. I have another one of the Hill article. Padilla forcibly removed from no press conference without objection to order. And I have a third one. Axios Democratic senator forcibly removed from DHS press conference without objection to order. Mr. Chair. Also, we were just talking about this. I want to on is We recognize this miss brain. There's a privilege of the majority and that means we're in charge. Not your side. Because you lost the election. Miss brain we're going to start the clock.

Because you supported the creation of our country. It's my time. Will you commit on the record to work with subpoena Kristi Noem. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you Mr. Chairman. You had an order. Chair recognizes Miss brain. Will you commit on the record to subpoenaing Kristi Noem because a U. Mr. Chairman. You're out of order. Chair recognizes Mr. Green.

Will you commit on the record to subpoenaing Kristi Noem because a US Senator was just thrown to the ground and detained in his own... Democrats can't follow the rules. Can't follow the law. Can't follow the rules. Shut up! No, you don't know. You're not going to tell me to shut up.

How do you get him in order? You're running for the? Not like that. He has been out of order six times. He's trying to get on MSNBC. You probably knocked somebody off MSNBC to get on there. I think as he's been arrested as a former Antifa member, right? Back to order, Ms. Green. Go.

He's a former Antifa member. Mr. Chairman, I'm surprised. Who's a former Antifa member? Me? Yeah, you. I ask that these words be taken down. No, Ms. Greene. Thank you. You're recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Governor Hockel, you stated that you're a proud Democrat, proud registered Democrat. We got to suspend. There's been a parliamentary move. They said they weren't gonna do that. That idiot literally said you're an Antifa member. Okay, white supremacists. Zavorajie joins us. Look, what you're seeing here, Zavorajie,

is this level of craziness. First of all, how insane is it to hear Marjorie Taylor Green say Democrats don't want to file the law when that's what this administration is constantly doing, breaking the law? Definitely. It's like, it's a lack of respect and you can see the lack of respect. No order was followed. They are just throwing words, screaming, removing people. They have no level of decorum. And they can say all day that it's the Democrats that are not following the rules or the Democrats

that are not doing this and not doing that. But how can anyone follow rules in so much care? You don't want a person to follow the rules or have respect when you're throwing people out and dragging people out. I think that it's just, it's a disrespect to our democracy and to everything that the country is supposed to stand for. Again, what we are seeing is sheer craziness

and Republicans are allowing that. Now you have House Speaker Mike Johnson not condemning the actions of these federal officers. He's saying that Congress has censured Senator Padilla. These people literally are crazy. And this is what happens when you put the power of the White House, the House, and the Senate, and the party of deranged MAGA Republicans.

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I am Tommy Davidson. I play Oscar on Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. Right now I'm rolling with Roland Martin, unfiltered, uncut, unplugged and undamn believable. You hear me? The So do The Critics are complaining about Donald Trump sending federal troops to Los Angeles to quell protests. California Governor Gavin Newsom never ever requested for the troops to come in. That's normally the protocol where a governor requests National Guard troops. Trump chose on his own. While that happened, this week he went to Fort Bragg where he gave a shameful and despicable speech where we now know

according to military times where they literally were casting, casting soldiers, did not want overweight soldiers to be in the stands behind him. They wanted soldiers that agreed with the political ideology of Donald Trump. And during that speech, he was ripping President Biden, he was ripping the media, and you heard the cheering of these troops. Folks, in this country, the military is not used as political props. But the draft dodger, Mr. Bonespurs, the man who also didn't have the courage to go see the gravesites of American soldiers, a man who is called soldiers that have given their lives

for this country, losers. That's this individual right here. The actions that he is taking is something that we have not seen ever before. But again, we told people this was going to happen and the folks did not listen to us. A number of military members, commanders who are still serving or quietly pushing back. Many were highly critical of what happened this week at Fort Bragg. They see also what's happening right now in Los Angeles. It's not good.

But the problem is, we know that under this administration, under this joke of a defense secretary, Pete Hexeth, and if any one of those generals or commanders, if they go public, they're going to be fired. It's going to happen. So to give us a sense of what is being talked about in the military community, we're joined right now by retired U.S. Army Brigadier General Arnold Gordon-Bray from Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. Glad to have you on the show, Fred.

Let's just give our folks a sense. You are, listen, once in the military, always in the military. I've been corresponding with other retired generals and others and members of the military, individuals who may be Republican, individuals who may be Republican, individuals who may be conservative, they are shocked by what they're seeing and how Donald Trump is, frankly, pipping the U.S. military for his purposes. Well, first of all, thank you very much.

It is appalling. And to be very candid, I don't think that the folks who have the uniformed zone, whether we're in uniform, they really should not be speaking out, because, one, that's almost like a preemptive strike against something that they don't know for a fact to be either illegal or immoral yet. The driving idea behind the separation of the military from the civilian force is called this thing called Pacte Comitatus. It puts... I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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In fact, I love Ronald Dellum's Rest in Peace. He, a former Marine, made the statement to General Sullivan when he retired that he was going to become the most powerful member in America when he retired, because the civilian force does command the military. That's fair. That's how it should be. At the same time, we are not the interface, and there are multiple reasons why we should not interface in a direct way. You know, Big U from the forum of the Crips talked about how he wants to make sure that we

don't put people—he used the word homies. We don't want homies trying to run other homies. It's hard. And similarly, what you don't want to have is your civilians who've now been trained—army, Marine Corps, Space Force, Air Force, Navy—now trained, coming back in with their own ideology and trying to run the neighborhoods, or under somebody else's leadership, running it with that kind of training. That's part one. The other thing is that our job is to fight and win the nation's wars. You don't want someone whose job is to get in that zone, identify a threat, make it an

enemy, and to be fair, kill it and win. Kill him or her and win. That's a mindset. And so what we have to make sure that we don't do is let someone who takes this collective weapon and use it against civilians, because that's not their job. God bless the guys who put the uniformed zone as policemen, sheriffs, because they have learned because they have learned and over time how to deescalate. That's what Governor Newsom, he's seen riots before.

His people have seen riots before and they know how to- Well, first of all, General, to your point, the police chief of LAPD has said, no, we did not request troops. This has not risen to the level where we need that. He also has been critical by saying that the actions, even now the troops, well, the federal law enforcement officers, them firing tear gas has made their job easier. The NYPD has said the same thing. And what they've said is these federal agents,

they aren't trained in that. That's not what they do. And they're like, leave that stuff up to us. Yes. You know how to manage it. You know how to deal with people. You know, the civilian law, the civilian law enforcers, their practice, they walked into houses, into the hood, whereby they walk between a husband and a wife who have weapons

in their hands, and they know how to de-escalate that peace, and then they know how to deescalate that piece, and they didn't know how to isolate. We do that in foreign countries. And we practice it. And to be fair, as a paratrooper, I had a little more experience doing it. But at the same time, I'm going to tell you, my guys were trained to break things and kill people. You don't want to do that. You want to bring them in. And so, when you start to try to take these weapons, these people whose mindset is designed

to do something different, especially if you don't have any time to transition them, to be able to de-escalate their warrior skills—you know, when the Brits go up into Northern Ireland, there's a transition period that they make them go through and rehearse both of the reaction. We were doing that when we were in that period of operations other than war in the late-'90s. We would send people through training processes. We keep forgetting that if you take a soldier, sailor, ever marine, and put him in front of civilians, if that civilian responds to him, he first becomes just a threat. Then he becomes an enemy. That's the last thing we want in this nation. That's the last

thing we want in this nation. You know, Senator—I mean, Chairman Kaine, who's our current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he is the only person on active duty that really has stepped up to—and, by the way, that's his job to interface between the civilian and the military. That's his job to advise. And he clearly advised in a letter to the president that you cannot politicize our military, because he saw the danger in it. Similar to Mark Milley, when they watched it, it's great that we have that kind of leadership still in the uniform that says you're going to a different level. You can't bring our forces like that.

You know, a young Marine had indicated that he would be not so kind to anyone who sped on him. And see, on the surface, you think that's just that young Marine. But that Marine is part of the Marine Corps. He is a friend. And after contact, soldiers, sailors, and Marines, we fight for each other. This thing can evolve and devolve into something that we don't want it to be. You hit the nail on the head. So here's, so General, so General, the thing that I, that again,

the people have to understand, and Trump officials that they do this, when they say Trump's military, Trump's army, Trump's Marines, no they're not, and presidents are very careful to understand their language because they understand that even though that person is the commander in chief, there is a hierarchy, there is a chain of command that the military cannot be seen as being used for partisan purposes.

That the military does not identify as blue or red, Democrat or Republican. The military is about serving the American people. But what you have here, you literally have, you know, Pete Hexseth walking around, I, you know, I served in combat. I know more about this than all of you. And they are, they are taking a wrecking ball to so many firewalls in the Pentagon. And what you, you do, I mean, in the first time you literally had a wall there. You had individuals who said, no, we can't allow these things to happen. That wall doesn't exist. There now is a straight line from whatever is going through the mind of that idiot Trump right through decisions made at the Pentagon.

And so when you're talking to your fellow retired army officers and other members of the military. What are they saying with what they are witnessing right now? First of all, I'm reluctant to really call the commander in chief any names. And we can do that. But the reality is, is that, you know, we're- Yeah, I can. Yeah, I can. You can.

You can. We're- Yeah, I can. Yeah, I can. You can. Yeah, you can. We're all service. And to that end, right now what you have is you have the retirees and the active force. They're conversations, but they're looking at it literally through the lens of service and making sure that we're able to ultimately be able to do the things that we're asked to. You're asked to fight and win the nation's wars. That's why you maintain an army. We don't, nations don't disagree because they maintain armies. They maintain armies because they disagree. And if you start to make it so that our military

is now assigned to or believe that they're, they follow the orders of the president of the United States, that's the oath that you take when you first join. The oath you take the moment you hit from sergeant own up, it is clearly to the constitution. In fact, even the senators and congressmen take that off. It's to the constitution. And Congress has a responsibility

to actually raise the army, to get the army and prepare it for its use. The unfortunate piece that I don't think even our forefathers foresaw is that we would have people who don't even understand all of its uses and the impacts of it, because you figure—rem remember, we came, our leaders were born out of conflict at the time they were writing. And I all kind of understood that they had worked

with Washington when they were crafting this thing. And even the others were diplomats on a larger scale. They couldn't envision that we'd have someone who had not fought before, someone who would be selfish. Now that part I will say without hesitation, because it's about him. General General, I would have disagreed with you. I disagree with you on this point.

They did foresee this this but what they also established were checks and balances the problem that we have right now okay I mean you can say the emoluments clause you can say all those things they actually first solve problems the problem that we have here is that there are no checks and balances. But historically, historically, we have had Democrats challenge a Democratic president when it came to their actions by saying, you're violating the United States Constitution. It was Republicans, Tennessee Senator Howard Baker, others who made that walk up Pennsylvania Avenue to Nixon saying, it's time for you to go.

So the problem here, so the problem, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So the only problem here, the only problem we have right now is we have a Republican party that is completely capitulated and they will not put this man in check. They won't do it. And Democrats, because they don't control the House or the Senate, they literally are left powerless to do anything. And that's really where we are. He's ignoring court orders.

Yeah. And that's really where we are. He's ignoring court orders. Yeah, we did not disagree on that piece, because I think you've heard me say this. We had the threat with the vine. What I meant was they didn't have, we didn't foresee somebody who would not understand its implications. And I apologize for that,

because you're absolutely correct that there are, that's the threat to our entire democracy, is that if we have a person who is not maintained—is not in check by the judiciary and also the people's representatives, the legislature, you're spot on there. And I don't think—I don't think there's pushback, sufficient pushback against him. And I mentioned earlier, it is the responsibility of Congress to go ahead and raise and provide those forces.

And they—and in our wisdom, we did, in fact, give governors a military element to go ahead and assist. That's the National Guard capability. And, by the way, National Guard, they've also—they're twice the citizens. They are folks who come from the field. They know how to interface as well, but at a different level. And to that end, when they come into the fight,

they should be, you focus those into protection of infrastructure and let the law enforcement interface with the people. So there's even kind of a roll up, a format of how you use the different tiers of forces. And to your point, it's very clear that one, our forefathers saw, they saw a threat that if you ever gave too much power to one person,

one entity, that's why they separated those powers. And they gave the judiciary the requirement and responsibility to be one co-equal and two, to interpret the Constitution and then to issue those laws to help govern it. So yeah, you're spot on. And we agree with that. And there are many special returnees. But there are many returnees that also see this in voice,

and you'll see some of them in the paper. So, I mean, they'll make comment. But all of us are still trying to make sure that, one, we aren't part of the problem, whereby someone thinks that there's this shadow force that's evolving and emerging. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the revolution.

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And never fill your feed with kid photos. You'd never plan your life around their schedule. Never lick your thumb to clean their face. And you'd never let them leave the house looking like, uh, less than their best. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it. Never let them stay up too late. And never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there? No, it can happen.

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leaders in legislature, try to get some of them to wake up and push forward. And by the way, across party lines, the challenge has been put down and the gauntlet has been thrown down by the money that backs these representatives. You know, you've got Musk who said basically, and even though he's split, he's now made up. He's still backing the horses and telling them and saying, if you go against what he's decided, I'm gonna do something to you. I'm gonna make sure that you're a last term, whatever you are.

Those are the other dangers that's kind of the back end or the gunpowder in these decisions. We talked about, you mentioned General Mark Milley, former Joint Chiefs of Staff leader. And this was, it was a short speech, but this was his outgoing message that he delivered But this was his outgoing message that he delivered that still resonates and it's most important when it comes to what we are facing right now. This was a warning that he gave to the country. Unfortunately, the country did not heed his warning. Listen. heed his warning. Listen.

I'm deeply honored to have worn the cloth of this nation for 43.5 years. And I'm humbled to have served as the 20th chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. But today is not about anyone up here on this stage. It's not about the president, the secretary of defense, me, CQ. It's not about anyone up here on this stage. It's not about the president, the secretary of defense, me, CQ. It's not about us.

It's about something much larger than all of us. It's about our democracy. It's about our republic. We are unique among the world's armies. We are unique among the world's militaries. We don't take an oath to a country. We don't take an oath to a tribe. We don't take an oath to a religion.

We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or to a tyrant or a dictator. And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We don't take an oath to an individual. We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that it's America, and we're willing to die to protect it. Those values and ideas are contained within the Constitution of the United States of America,

which is the moral North Star for all of us who have the privilege of wearing the cloth of our nation. It is that document that all of us who have the privilege of wearing the cloth of our nation is that document that all of us in uniform swear to protect and defend against all enemies foreign and domestic those who sacrifice themselves on the altar of freedom in the last two and a half centuries of this country must not have done so in vain. The millions wounded in our nation's wars did not sacrifice their limbs and shed their blood to see this great experiment in democracy

perish from this earth. No, we the American people, we the American military, must never turn our back on those that came before us. And we will never turn our back on the Constitution. That is our North Star. That is who we are. And that is why we fight. Thank you.

And may God bless our military. And may God bless the United States of America. General Miller is a great guy and we worked together, he actually worked for me for a week before I left. Good man and those aren't words, that's his DNA. You were going to say something, I'm sorry. What you heard was you heard him articulating what every officer and for sure every person who's a senior leader has in their core, which is that commitment to this nation and to protect those soldiers, sailors, ever marine, Coast Guardsmen, and spacemen when they are given and used the word privilege to command.

And I said something earlier, if you understand it's both a privilege to lead and command America's sons and daughters, you treat them as precious as you can as you make them hard and do those tough things that very few people are willing to do. And so if you're going to take care of, you're going to put them in that kind of environment,

you're going to also make sure that one, they are treasured by America's citizens. And you're not going to have them looking at American citizens as less than, or something other than what they are. It's that, it's those people, it's the idea, the concepts of this nation, those words that are crafted so beautifully in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, that's what you're fighting for. That's what we fight for. And when somebody, any one person steps up to think

that they're it and you do my whims, that's when we break. That's when we break. And to the greater point, there was a clear vision to protect us from having this kind of breakdown in structure, because that's what we're fighting for. That's what we're fighting to protect.

And so we've got to treat those soldiers, sailors, and Marine Coast Guardsmen and spacemen, so that one, they understand that they are not, they are not a political tool against each other, not political tool against each other, not a political tool against an other party. They are a political weapon for America's policy externally, principally. I want to go to my panel.

Greg Carr. Greg Carr, your question. Thank you, Roland. And thank you, Brother General. It's clear at this point that this man has been having basically political rallies at military events and military installations. My question is really a two-part question very quickly. One, what do you expect this Saturday in terms of what's going on here? I was just left at the Smithsonian, and seeing everything lining up down there.

We know it's not going to be a celebration of the Army, but a celebration of Donald Trump, which of course flies in the face of exactly what General Maile was talking about. What are you expecting Saturday to come out of this man's mouth with the entire United States Army as a backdrop, staging for his branding exercise. And then, could you say a word about the duty or the duty of active military to refuse to carry out unlawful orders? Because that's clearly what we're inching toward. First of all, I hope that no one has to actively refuse an order

that is illegal or immoral, but they have that requirement to do that, they say it's illegal or immoral. And so I hope that doesn't come to fruition. The second thing is I won't try to give you my vision because it's always dangerous to project what will happen or what, I can tell you a little bit about what I can't try to give you my vision because it's always dangerous to project what will happen or what, I can tell you a little bit about what I can't.

By the way, June 14th is also my birthday. It's also Flag Day and it is also the Army's birthday. It was to, in my mind, the least of days to celebrate because it is one parochial to army. If you want to do the flag and the argument that was made was that we never celebrate our wars. We never celebrate winning war because the results of war are never final.

And no one has seen the end of war except the dead. Soldiers understand that. So we celebrate, we celebrate, when you see us walking down the street, we celebrate the fact that we're home, that we achieved a mission. That's what we did in previous times. We weren't celebrating that we won because no single nation wins these major wars. So this idea that somehow this is, and this is the point that you're asking, I guess, that this is somehow celebration of the military,

it's a farce. It's a farce. It is a celebration to occur on a birthday. And I expect at some point in time, there will be a birthday celebration that will be part of this. And that's the thing. I even wrote about that a while back. He was going to try to do this.

This was predictive because it goes to the word of one of the essential values. The army believes in loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage. Selfless service is not in his DNA. Rees. Critical. General. Yes, ma'am. General, I'm curious, based on your experience,

what do you think is, from what we're seeing in terms of the cheering and the steaming support from the military for Donald Trump, how much of that is because of the cheering and the steaming support from the military support of Trump. How much of that is because of the audience he's curating versus how much the sentiment is pro Trump to the point of what you pointed out, their duty to refuse an unlawful or an immoral order. How much do you think we should be concerned? Because I'm very, very concerned. Yeah.

At this point, I would not be concerned yet. In fact, I was encouraged when I saw the commander, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs fire out a letter that talked about the de-politicization of our military. And he cautioned that there's a decorum for the reception of how we treat and listen to the president—the commander-in-chief when he's talking to the troops. So at this point, I am less concerned, but you have to understand what he did was,

it was very little that he's for, it's the things he's against. And what you are against allows you to create the kind of anger because that's a much easier emotion to address what you're against versus what you're for. And he's, unfortunately, he knows how to use those tools. This will be a parade.

It will come across this time as pretty and accurate, not so much other than a parade. And to most Americans, that's what they think they will see. But the challenge is, it's what third world leaders do. You put your forces out in the hot sun so they can run out and show the weapons and things like that. When bases do this, they do it with local communities, because they want the community to know what's in their backyard.

And they always make it family-friendly. And it's designed so that there's an intimacy between the community and their bases. This is not one that this nation needs for its community, for its citizens writ large. We don't need it. And most know that. Most know that. Zabora. Hi, thank you so much for your service.

We know that Black and Brown service members are being deployed into our Black and Brown communities. So, with them going in these communities against their own moral compass or political reasons, how do we ensure that military government doesn't, it doesn't turn our troops into some kind of American Gestapo and how do we protect their rights to participation in missions that violate both their ethics and the communities that they're coming from?

Yeah. And I got about, I got about, about 90, General got about 90 seconds,, I got about 90 seconds. Go. I'll go quick. You ought to have a little bit of confidence in the fact that if you do see those faces, remember, there's a consciousness behind them. There's a consciousness behind them.

And it's like they wake up in the morning, they know who they're dealing with. And that will be part of the saving grace is that you will see Americans, the full breadth of Americans in those formations. And you ought to hope that you see some black and brown faces in those formations. And by the way, I encourage cameras to be out all the time. And I would also encourage you to one, do what King did.

Don't give anybody a reason to do something that will become escalatory. If I were a community leader, I would make sure that one, there's leadership at all places that do exactly what Jesse and what Andrew Young did to Martin Luther King Jr. We have a mission. We're protesting, protect each other. Don't give them a reason to go ahead and declare and show pictures of us as the aggressor. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. tell you. All right then. General Ray, I appreciate it. Thanks a bunch for sharing your insight with our audience. I appreciate you.

And again, I appreciate your fire. I appreciate you saying some of the things that most of us don't and can't say for a lot of reasons Because you need that fire. It's the same caution that we always had you King worked well because Malcolm was on the other end. Thank you all very much All right, thank you so very much all right folks going to break we come back Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, Congresswoman Summer Lee, they were on fire, lighting up the Trump administration when it came to the issue of immigration. We'll show you what took place today on Capitol

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what she called political theater. And thank you so much to our governors and I want to say I apologize I apologize for the abuse that you are facing in this committee that is supposed to be about waste, fraud, and abuse and I also apologize for wasting your time because this is nothing more than political theater. Now, again, this committee is supposed to be about waste, fraud, and abuse. We did not have to have this full creation of Doge, the committee itself.

That is our job. So what I wanna talk about is what, something that the American people may wanna know, which is economically, how is this impacting them? These failed immigration policies that are only put on so that they can have a show because we have a reality show president who seemingly still believes that this is all about TV instead of real lives. So let me talk about something really quickly, because I want to clarify something,

because I believe that all of you understand the importance of something like tourism. Are you aware, any of you, are you aware as to whether or not tourism in the United States is anticipated to decrease to the extent that we are estimated to lose $12.5 billion in international vendor spending in just the year 2025? I can answer as the tourism capital of the country. I assume you could. Tourism's already down. It is down in the North Country,

where the Canadians refuse to come over because of the hostility toward their country. It's happening in New York City. It's happening at our sporting events here, our theater. There's a ripple effect throughout our entire economy because of the change in attitude that our country that once welcomed people from all over the world to visit and recreate and to live here now feels like a very hostile place to them.

It is going to have an economic impact on our bottom line, without a doubt. So let's talk about it a little bit more. So I am supposed to have a number of FIFA games in Dallas. And I am fully anticipating that we are going to have a problem because I've been receiving phone calls that people don't feel safe coming here. And it's not the immigrants. It's this government that is making them feel unsafe.

But let me also do this, because they love to cherry pick. They can find any one person that has been killed. And if they've been killed by an immigrant, then god darn it, every single immigrant is going out and they are killers and that is the problem but they don't want to talk about white supremacy I don't know how many hearings we don't have about the fact that there's been this one immigrant that killed this one person and no I'm not excusing any killings by them or white supremacists but they haven't had these hearings we didn't have a hearing on

Buffalo and what happened there we didn't have a hearing on El Paso and what happened there we didn't have a hearing on Buffalo and what happened there. We didn't have a hearing on El Paso and what happened there. We didn't have a hearing on Charleston and what happened there. So it's interesting that they pick and choose because it seems like they love to pal around with the white supremacists. And so they don't want to talk about certain other things. But economically, I want to make sure that we're making this point again, because I know that Governor Pritzker, you are the beneficiary of a lot of things from the state of Texas. And a lot of people believe that Republicans are fiscally responsible,

but instead they are actually fiscally irresponsible because what he spent was a whopping $221 million transporting people from Texas to your state. Something tells me that he could have done something else with that $221 million. In addition to that, I know that there's been some conversations about what's going on in LA, and they want to say that it's riots because they didn't want people to keep talking about, say the Epstein files or whatever other drama was popping off between the president and

his little friend. So, they wanted to change the conversation to immigration because they feel like, well, the polling is in our benefit, but let me tell you something. If they cared about making sure we were going to be fiscally responsible, they would tell the American people that it cost them $134 million to send the National Guard to L.A. for the quote-unquote riots that the governor didn't ask for nor did the mayor of LA ask for and they sent them over there and they say that they care about our service members yet they sent them and they were laying on the floor they did not provide for food

so I don't know why we would believe that number one they want to fix this they don't want to fix this, they don't want to fix this because the brokenness is a feature not a flaw of the system because it is beneficial to them when it comes to campaigning. If they can't stoke fear then why are they going to say have anybody vote for them because that's what people are doing they're voting out of fear but Miss Perryman we know each other a little well. And I know you got a law degree. And it seems like we all need law degrees in here nowadays to understand the Constitution. So really briefly, I just want to make this point.

There is a certain person that was afforded, say, due process. But let's say if, say, Donald Trump had been charged with all of these cases that he got charged with in four different jurisdictions, if he wasn't afforded due process, there could have been a possibility that he just would have been locked up and thrown somewhere, right?

That would be a possibility. And then maybe we wouldn't have a tear of war or anything else that we're dealing with or all the other nonsense. But the point is, he was afforded due process. And regardless of the political opposition, Democrats, Republicans, and independents, I thought, believe that due process should be afforded to everybody, even him. Due process is for everyone.

Okay, so the Fifth Amendment doesn't say that it's just for the people that are Americans? It does not. It says anybody on our soil? It's for everyone. Okay, it's pretty simple. I don't know why we are having issues But I thank you and I will you Well folks Pennsylvania cons woman summer Lee she got in on the action as well and She didn't hold her tongue

Hope it's funny the the lack of decorum that we get and people drop that they we do drop the gentleman act here lack of decorum that we get. And people drop, we do drop the gentleman act here, often times when attacking women who aren't able to defend themselves with equal time. But that's kind of the theme here, right? Attacking Americans or people who are not able to defend themselves, or at least who Republicans hope can't defend themselves.

And that's what we're seeing, essentially in Los Angeles. So I would say that this hearing is quite timely. What's happening with ICE in the military in Los Angeles is terrifying and is directly caused by Trump's policies and his cruelty. It was Trump's overzealous ICE agents who started this specific incident. And now they want us to get bogged out

and arguing over the right types of protest or the right types of way or the right way to defend yourself, the mythical perfect type, so that we could ignore that Trump is the one who is escalating all of this. Trump is the one who ordered in thousands of National Guardsmen over the objection of Governor Newsom, something that hasn't been done since 1965. Trump is the one deploying Marines not on an enemy abroad, but on the American people who are exercising their First Amendment right

in this instance, the only opportunity that they have to defend themselves against lawless lawmakers who are imposing cruelty upon them. For party of so-called law and order folks, they sure are stampeding over people's constitutional rights and intentionally inciting more chaos, more fear, more anxiety, and increasing the likelihood that people will get hurt. In the end, what's happening in Los Angeles is just one of many incidents where Trump and his administration have not given a single damn about people's safety. For one, the ICE and DHS agents that are arresting people or raiding places often don't even

have any kind of uniform or identifying badge, their masks, and they're in unmarked cars. Ms. Perryman, just briefly, why is it so dangerous to have masks, plain clothes, ICE agents arresting people? So, I'll just thank you, Congresswoman, for your question. I'll go back to what I said before, that we know our Constitution recognizes and our country recognizes the importance of trust between local law enforcement, the federal government, and governors.

And what we're seeing here is a breach of trust. It's an escalation. And it's dangerous for the American people. Trump said he was only going to go after undocumented criminals, but that's clearly not the case. Whether through incompetence or straight up racial profiling, ICE and DHS agents are wrongfully arresting US citizens.

We've talked about it today. And catching these mistakes often happens too late after an American citizen has already been illegally thrown into another country. And Trump's administration is doing nothing to get them back. These agents are also going into previously protected spaces, as we've discussed, like churches and schools and hospitals.

DHS agents tried to get into an elementary school by lying that they had the permission from the parents. That is a cartoonish level of evil. ICE also arrested a Massachusetts high school senior, Marcelo Gomez de Silva, on his way to volleyball practice. Governor Walz, you're a former teacher and coach. Do you think these kinds of actions create instability for students?

And do you worry about increasing anxiety of kids coming to school? Well, thank you, congressman. I certainly do. Creating that safe environment where our kids can come and the expectation is to learn, they certainly do. Creating that safe environment where our kids can come and the expectation is to learn, they certainly do. Once again, there's no reason to use these enforcement actions at those locations when there are other tools. And I think, again, this false equivalency that we do not want violent criminals to be arrested, detained,

and go through due process. We do, but hugely detrimental to the educational system, hugely detrimental to a system that is dependent on trust and the goodwill of everyone in that school system. So, yeah, it is detrimental. Thank you, Governor Walz. These same kids getting arrested are often being separated from their families. They are scared, they're alone.

An attorney is one of the few resources they had access to that is now being taken away as well. The Trump administration's canceled contracts with legal groups that represent those undocumented children in immigration court. This is gonna force thousands of kids as young as two years old to represent themselves very quickly as we're running out of time.

Ms. Perryman, how's a two year old supposed to represent themselves in court? A two year old can't represent itself in court, him or herself in court. And I'll just say that we are in court every single day seeking to try to ensure that people have access to legal representation, which of course this administration is really seeking to curtail. They are seeking to ignore due process rights. I was going to say, would you say that it is due process if a two-year-old is left

to represent themselves? Absolutely, it's a flagrant violation of our constitution. It's also something that shocks the conscience. We'll leave it there. Thank you, I yield back. Zabora, one of the reasons why we like to show the full five minutes of House members and some of these Senate hearings is because a lot of folks

never actually see or hear Black Caucus members in action. People often talk about, well, what are they doing? I don't see them standing up. I don't see them fighting. But these things happen. We know that Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is trying to become the next ranking member, that is the leading Democrat on this House Oversight Committee. And so, you know, people need to understand that when we talk about the House and the Senate, the rules are different. The power is different. And the reality is you use these hearings to be able to put these facts out there so people are aware of actually what's going on

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I may have to go back to Mexico or wherever they came from. This is just so disheartening. To have our leaders being on the front lines, running after positions that put them in oversight committees that will stop some of these things. We are not powerless. We have to get out. We have to be active.

We have to get out. We have to be active. We have to unify. And we have to fight for the things that are super important for our kids, for our future, and for a country that has always been built on so many diverse individuals and diverse groups being in this country. Listening to their, just listening to their voices. You know, Rishi.

Power, and what she was saying is so important that we identify that we gotta stand up. listening to their, just listening to the power in which she was saying it's so important that we identify that we gotta stand up. We can't just be sitting back twirling our thumbs while they're running our communities, destroying our communities and agitating protests that are peaceful. You know, Reece, there are a lot of people,

I hear some African Americans, man, this stuff don't involve us. This ain't, you know, we ain't got nothing to do with this here. Folk had better wake the hell up. I've read this the last two days, and I know I couldn't wait to read this for you and Greg. And that is Christopher Ruffo had posted this on his sub stack earlier this week where he said that at the same time as we saw demonstrated in Portland, Oregon during the George Floyd riots, the agencies should dispatch unmarked vans to follow key agitators and snatch them from the streets while the media are not looking.

The most effective riot control is to take movement leaders off the field, infiltrate their networks, disrupt the flow of funding, and roll them up in federal investigations. Denying the left trained protest leaders now will create a strong precedent for the rest of the president's term. If these folks don't think that they will do this to black activists, they are out of their minds. They've been doing it to us since you think of the Black Panther Party and SNCC and all of these other organizations that were infiltrated. They've been doing this to us. This

is their game plan. They've always had it. So we can't be... No, no, no, I'm sorry. Well, Reece, else, Reece, go. Yeah, you know what? It's past the time of hypothesizing about what they plan to do. They are already doing it. These are the people that felt like they didn't go far enough in swashing the Black Lives Matter protests. So they are chomping at the bit, itching to get Black people.

Be very clear about that. And I know that there is some sentiment among some people, not all, that this is about protesting. And, well, Black people don't get out there and protest because that's what they're gonna use as an excuse to wrap you up. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to be protesting.

You could just be walking home. There was a lady yesterday, it was a white lady I saw two days ago who was trying to go to her apartment building who was attacked by the police. So as long as these- That was a black woman. That was a black woman from,

I'm sorry, that was a woman from Chile who was on vacation with her child and they snatched her in New York City and left her daughter there stranded and held that woman for eight hours. And hell, she was just here on vacation. Absolutely. Well, and we've seen even in,

it's really racial profiling, but we've seen where American citizens, military officers who are just playing close at the time, who are detained. The reality is you don't want to, not just end up in South Sudan or Djibouti, but you don't wanna be in the crosshairs of these people at all.

And so the presence of 4,800 military personnel under the thumb of Donald Trump in any city is a problem. Greg Abbott is, I believe I read, going to unleash 5,000 National Guards. For what? People are going to be trying to go to Juneteenth, barbecues and shit, do some line dances, and yet he's going to be sitting there unleashing all of these military people. So even if we're not going to a protest, you go into the barbecue, you go into a picnic, the presence of these forces is a problem for black people point blank theory. They don't need an actual reason. Your existence

is reason enough for them. And so that's why we're trying to warn people to stay woke, stay prepared and stay vigilant. If you don't want to get out there and hold protest lines and be on the front lines, okay. But you still need to keep your head on the swivel. Greg, these black folk better recognize, this ain't just about, this ain't about Latinos, this ain't about migrants. No, these, Terese's point, they are pissed off with what happened with Black Lives Matter. They're pissed off that it was able to become the first black protest in American history where a majority of American citizens supported it.

And that's why they attacked, that's why the right-wing media attacked Black Lives Matter with everything they had in 2021. They attacked critical race theory in 2022. They attacked woke in 2023. They attacked DEI in 2024. They are absolutely angry with what I call the third reconstruction. And they said, oh no, we are going to destroy this.

Y'all ain't black folks, you Negroes ain't having no footprint ever again. That's their dream. It's a dying dream. This is their death rattle. And like many trapped animals, they are the most dangerous when they are facing their end. The strongest and only consistent diversity, equity and inclusion grouping in the history

of the United States of America is whiteness. The DEI intellectual Christopher Ruffa, who, if he were a black man, would not be writing or talking about anything, but because he is a white man and a white nationalist, he's promoted and platformed to talk about things he doesn't understand, is giving voice to their fantasy. It's a dying fantasy, but in its death rattle, it is perhaps its most dangerous. I spent yesterday in New York at the Schomburg Center testifying before the New York State Reparations Commission. I was there last year when Governor Hokel, who we saw testifying today there in Congress,

signed the bill in the legislation creating the study commission in New York. And as I anticipated, I wrote my remarks, fully anticipating that I would be shouted at from the audience, from the descendants of slaves crowd, which they did. I kind of smiled. This recorded is out there on the New York State website. And you'll see me kind of chuckle and say, I'm here for all the smoke, all the baby smoke.

And, but I bring it up for this reason. Afterward, I had a long conversation standing outside of Schomburg on 135th and Malcolm X with many of these folks, these freedmen, these Adas folk, who I embrace because I understand the pain that they're speaking from. But as we had the conversation, which was very amicable, and you know, because we're talking with the spirit of generosity we all want the same thing but what melted away from them was any logic connected with this blackface nativism. The idea in New York City of all places that you could somehow separate yourself from the multi-ethnic multicultural polyglot that is New York City and stand on the other side opposite people who are in harm's way exactly like you and who, to your point, are in harm's way exactly like them is absurd on its face and their arguments melted away. I set all that as a backdrop to this. That House Oversight

Committee, which is run by another DEI politician, James Comer, who if he were a black man, would be excoriated widely for being as stupid as he is. And of course, the congresswoman from Rousselmania, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia, another DEI politician, if she were a black woman would be widely excoriated. When we saw Summer Lee and Jasmine Crockett do what they are going to do increasingly, and Maxwell Frost on that committee, which is assume leadership in a Democratic party who is still nursing the fantasy

that you can make peace with these white nationalists, which means they are self-white nationalists, it's coming down to this. We will embrace the politics of solidarity, regardless if people want to throw up, well, this person doesn't like this person, or this group said this about this person. You know what? Later for that. Because these people are in the streets trying to act as if they can sustain this bullying.

They're bullies. You know what you do with a bully? You punch them dead ass in the mouth in politically organizing in the courts, and they will fold like the cheap DEI suits they are. But at this moment, this is not the moment to talk about my friend, my colleague, this is not the moment to turn your back on other people because they are sending these punk ass jackbooty thugs like them three undersized boys that tried to tackle Alex Padilla and

expecting us to respond with, huh, or I, I, no. Saturday is going to be a showdown, friends. Roland and recently everybody, I mean, I'm saying this as Zivora, all of us, it's not gonna be nice Sunday afternoon downtown Washington, D.C. on the mall. And we may be talking about a very different conversation on On on Saturday night and Sunday and then when you come back with the show on Monday

Then we are having right now because they understand one thing if they don't understand anything else We live in a society where people are not paying attention. It's a meme culture They're not studying and so when you Lee, when you show Jasmine Crockett testifying, you have to, the reason you do that so much is because people are not paying attention and they will tell you straight to your face that they're not doing what they are doing. It's a time for us to be serious now.

I need people to understand something. When Recy made the point about Greg Abbott and the troops, so the protests that are going to be happening this weekend all across the judge, Latina, said, I don't need your troops. We can handle protest. Remember what Governor Greg Abbott did when there were protests on the campus of the University of Texas. He sent Texas Department of Safety State Troopers. Remember days they were pushing and shoving in riot gear. So what they want to do is they absolutely want to intimidate protesters. But here's why the protests are working, Reese.

Governor Gavin Newsom talked about this here, where they were raiding all of those fields in California, chasing folks out, they arrested this one man and one woman, stranding their child, child has no other family in the country. What did Trump do today in Oval Office? Pull back on the raiding of the country. What did Trump do today in Oval Office? Pull back on the rating of the fields. You know why?

Ain't no workers. Uh oh, who's gonna pick crops? So, and so Newsome did a video, he said, keep the protest up, it's working, but do it peacefully. And that's the deal. The only, the way you combat these thugs is you have to unleash massive protests nationwide. If you start blocking and shutting down Wall Street

and highways and all sorts of different things, these people have to see a full force. And I absolutely hope that this Latinos y'all just got your wake up call. All y'all crying as Cubans who voted for Trump. Now y'all shedding all these tears. This is not what we voted for. Yes it is. All them Vanessa Waylands in Florida, who backtracked y'all with making songs and singing. This is their wake up call.

And let's see if they go woke, Recy. You know, I said it before, Michelle, if they ain't got a call, if nobody gets one, Michelle, it's that in your record call, everybody gets one, everybody, even Elon Musk, everybody in your record call with a black guy and he's being dragged by Donald Trump. So the reality is this, they have to step up. They have considerable political power. To be fair, a majority of Latinos did vote for Kamala Harris.

They did not vote for this. I know that everybody is trying to flip the numbers now and say, well, this is what you wanted. There are certain demographics within the Latino community, particularly Cubans, whom were a part of Trump. But most Latinos, especially in Los Angeles, were a part of Vice President Kamala Harris, so they did not vote for it. But the reality is we are seeing that when they get activated that they can change the narrative, they can change the conversation. I'm a California girl, I grew up in California.

So I saw how they organized many a times in California when that community was under assault. And so I want everybody to fight because it is going to take a massive movement. This cannot wait until 25 June when the next elections happen. If we have them, this is always going to be resolved through some sort of civil disobedience, through some sort of mass movement. And I applaud everybody who is out there, who is putting their selves on the line, who

is helping organize, whether it's behind the scenes or in front of the scenes, because we have to send the message that we are not going to go down without a fight. And if we can do that peacefully, even better, because the reality is the wrong people got the most guns in this country. Okay? Because last I checked, we ain't got too many black militias, Latino militias and shit, all that's on the Republican macro crazy ass side of those places. And so yet less as long as we can, try to put some fear in them through

non violent protests. Greg, matter of fact, the give me one second. Let me go get this book. So I wanna show y'all this here. We actually had this sister on the show. So when I spoke today at the 32nd annual Juneteenth celebration, a sister came up to me

and she said, hey, you know this professor, she wanted me to give you this book. This is perfect. Let me just me to give you this book. This is perfect. Let me show you all this here. Just hold on. Her name is... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your

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Get your tickets today, AXS.com. Gloria Brown Marshall, she has a new book out. We're going to be doing an interview with her. Trust me, none of this was planned. I'm going to be doing an interview with her. Trust me, none of this was planned. I'm going to be doing an interview with her. So a young lady came up to me today and handed me this book and it's perfect timing. The book is called A Protest History of the United States. And she lays out, it says here, protest is primal and multifaceted in a protest history of the United States, Gloria J. Brown Marshall shines a bright light

on this nation's past and present, revealing protest's crucial role. There's a reason, Greg, it was called the First Amendment. That's a reason the right to assembly, the freedom of expression. There is a reason it is in the First Amendment. And these right wingers, they adore the second. They can't stand the first, except when they wanna protest or

when they wanna lead an insurrection on January 6th. Absolutely. Did she sign it? Roll it. No, no, no. So Gloria wasn't there. So she gave it to a young lady. She came up to me after my speech. She said, hey, she wanted you to have this. She's been on your show before. And I was like, all right, cool. So she handed me the book. It's literally hot off the presses. The book, it went on sale April 22nd.

And so it says, this comprehensive history traverses over four centuries of American descent weaving together legal analysis, historical documentation, personal memoir, and interviews with those who have taken a stand. And I just think that look where we are right now, it's real simple. This is how we fight back against these fascists and these thugs of Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, Tom Homan and others. Absolutely. The reason I asked you is because I was hoping maybe I would get the chance to see my colleague Gloria Brown Marshall last night.

She's at John Jay, of course, professor of constitutional law and African studies at John Jay College. And I would have, if I had thought about it it in advance I would have stuck my copy of the book in my bag. You already got that book. So now that means you can keep that one. Of course, I know you already had it. But anyway, yeah, this is not Jane Elliot pulling a trade book out of her bag as if that's a book that I would have had immediately. I did eventually get that book, but this is a different kind of book. And to your point, particularly the chapter where she

writes what to the slaves of 4th July, dealing with Frederick Douglass. First of all, we've been here before, as we know, and not exactly this way. But if Fred Douglas and Ida Wells, if Harriet Tubman and Mariah Stewart and David Walker could face down the situations they faced down, certainly we can do no less here. But you're raising a role, and I think, again, spot on as always here in this space, that we have to fight. While we've been on the air, Stephen Breyer's younger brother, Charles Breyer, has been in district court in San Francisco giving holy hell to the government's lawyers around this question of whether or not Trump can deploy a federalized takeover of the National Guard. It hasn't even gotten to the issue of whether you can send active duty military in, and

you heard the general talk about posse comitatus. You can't do it. It's not going to last. But when Judge Breyer, as we've been on the air, said during the arguments, you know, I'm tracking and it's coming through, and I know you're tracking it as well, he said, that's not where we live. We live in response to a monarch. This country was founded in response to the monarch.

He said the Constitution is a document of limitations. They're going to bump up against the full confrontation with the Constitution. And of course, as we heard General Malley say, the military take oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. Not a person, not even the country. And it comes down to this very serious confrontation that's going to test whether or not there will be a country that continues. When we saw Tim Walz from Minnesota, when we saw J.B. Pritzker from Illinois, when we

saw Kathy Ogle from New York, when we hear Gavin Newsom from California, what is going to be tested is the concept of federalism. When Gavin Newsom says, maybe we should just stop paying taxes, and at that point, the Hillbilly Hoard in Missouri, where they've now decided to send their troops out, the Hillbilly Hoard in Mississippi and Alabama, they're going to be in trouble. Why? Because y'all are welfare recipients in those states from the people like New York, like Illinois, like Minnesota, certainly California, one of the largest economies in the world. If you

took it out of the United States and Canada is saying allow California, come on with us, come to death row. We might be looking at the heating up of what has been a cold civil war since the end of the hot one in the 1860s. But guess what? It was going to come down to this anyway. This no more kings protest, all these cities and counting is only going to get larger.

You know what beats back fascism? The people. The most powerful element in the history of humanity is humanity. So I don't care whether you're ADOS and saying that these people don't have anything to do with us. I don't care if you're the would-be radicals who want to say that if you're not ideologically aligned with me 110%, I'm not going to organize with you. It's time to put aside all those things and understand we are facing a real fascist threat that we can overwhelm. And the good sister Gloria Brown Marshall

gives us a map of how every time fascism has read its ugly face, the people have risen up to oppose it. And that's the only reason we can have the conversation we're having today. And that's the only reason we can have the conversation we're having today. It is indeed the only reason. And what we have to understand is that we can never, ever forget our history. 62 years ago on this day, Medgar Evers, the leader of the NAACP Mississippi, was assassinated in his driveway, his wife, Merle Evers, having to witness him dying in her arms, his children

having to witness that. And here we are 62 years later having to witness these Trump idiots try to strip his name from a Navy vessel. Pete Hegseth had announced they were removing the names of eight vessels named after activists. Among them, Cesar Chavez, Harvey Milk, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Harriet Tubman. And Hegseth wants to rebrand these against bulkness and diversity. Now, let's be real clear. Let's be real clear. This is the same man who served in the Army, Mecker Evers. But this is the second time they've done that. Now, remember, they removed his name from the website at the Arlington National Cemetery,

which featured a section on African Americans who fought in wars. Now, they had to restore that because they got attacked. This is what Rena Evers Everett said, rename of the US NS Medgar Evers is not only malicious, it is despicable. As my mother said, this is an injustice to a man who fought for his country, both at home and abroad. Again, what they're angry about,

they don't want this story of these freedom fighters to be told. Even the little games they're playing with restoring the Confederate names of the military bases, Donald Trump's actions. But what they're doing is they are finding the same names of other people. So for instance, Fort Robert E. Lee, they went and found a black private whose last name was Lee because they are hell bent on it still being called Fort Lee. So they're looking around for same names. They're calling through military records and trying to do that. These people are just idiots, Reese.

They are idiots. But I need everybody watching to understand this is not a game. Project 2025 is what I call a 100-year document. the first document in 2025 is what I call a 100-year document. It is a document, it is an agenda that they want to lock down and ram through because when this nation becomes a nation that's majority people of color in 2043.

And with the dwindling birth rates of white people in this country, what these fascists today desperately want is they want America never to look like South Africa. America never to look like South Africa. They like, no, oh no, y'all ain't about to, us, we white folks have rewritten the history of this, we've written the history of this country in a way for us. I talk about when I went off on the History Channel and that bullshit docu-series,

where they kept talking about Texas independence and never mentioned what they were trying to be independent of which is they wanted to keep slavery These people have written history in their own minds and their whole deal is if we can strip this nation Bear, I mean strip it bare of race Stripping bear of history, then we can restore this purity of whiteness as the defining standard of what America is. I tried to lay this out in my book, White Fear,

and all of these mainstream media folk, all of these show hosts, people who I sent books to, they were afraid to even book me on the shows because they are living in denial about the white fear that is happening before our very eyes in America. I'm gonna go to you first, Reese. Yeah, I mean, these people are stupid. They're dumbasses, but they are very insidious, and

they're very strategic. And so they have been very clever in how they've gone about this by enlisting the bigotry within each of these communities that will never benefit from white communities. But they don't like this person. They don't like that group. They don't like that group. So they dangle whatever it is that people don't like about that group in front of people to get on board to get them to empower Republicans who want to dismantle everything for everybody, for white billionaires, white great crystal nationalist billionaires. They're willing for everybody to do the dirty work to be the mules of their white supremacy, but only so many people are going to benefit from them.

And they have the power. I mean, let's look at every single metric. White people have the power. They have the most wealth. They have the most power. They have the most disproportionately positive impacts and results from every aspect of this society. But what they also want is the violence. That's what I think this is really all about. That's why they want to glamorize the Confederacy because that was a time where white people or certain white people, I should say,

violently revolted against the humanity of enslaved people against a system that disenfranchised violently and stripped people of their humanity and women, by the way, that they were able to violently revolt. Now, they lost because they were some sorry-ass, punk-ass bitches, and they're treasonous. But now it's been romanticized in a way that they're trying to signal to us they want to see that green light again. That's why one of the first orders of business of Trump was to pardon the D.C. cop that killed a black person.

That's why they are dismantling these consent decrees. And they're undoing things. That's why they're destroying military personnel throughout the country. They want violence. They want to violently subjugate people. The public in Flint, they offer disinformation, misinformation, and they're trying to signal to us, they want to see that green light again. That's why one of the first orders of business of Trump was to pardon the D.C. cop that

killed a black person. That's why they are dismantling these consent decrees. And they're undoing things. That's why they're destroying military personnel throughout the country. They want violence. They want to violently subjugate people. The Republicans win. They offer disinformation, misinformation, and voter support. Half the country's already checked out. They didn't give a damn that a man who had 35 convictions was running. When all of these things in 2020-25, which by the way is 42% complete already, they didn't even need to lift a finger to get that happen, but they're not satisfied.

They want permanently entrenched power and they want the ability to violently rule over this country. Zabor. I think everything that everyone has said is so important. We know that they have the highest numbers of individuals in jail, but they want it to seem that black individuals are the individuals that are there. People of color are immigrants are the individuals that are doing all of the crime. But we know that's not the truth. They want to romanticize our history

while sitting comfortably in their fragility and entitlement. And us as black people not taking accountability and understanding that if it's happening to our Latino brothers and sisters, we are next. We can't sit by, be quiet, ignore the things that are happening every day, not participating in the ways that we can. I'm not saying martyr ourselves, but I am saying we have a responsibility to stand up, to fight and not be quiet.

And time for that is over. To assume that it's okay, not hold the people around us accountable, not let them know how their lack of knowledge and inability to hold themselves accountable and hold our family members accountable is impacting us and impacting our immigrants. A place where we are built on immigrants. It's time to stop.

It's time to realize that they are coming for us. This is gonna take us hundreds and hundreds of years to repair the damage that they are doing. And we have to fight back. That's it. We have to make sure we are protecting our mental health of our kids, our future, and what we're doing now.

How are we doing it now? How are we changing? How are we organizing? How are we mobilizing? Right. Yes. Greg, go ahead. All of this, how we get in our communities together. All right, is it ready?

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interested to see if these ex-army guys show up. But remember when Jim Mathis was secretary of defense in 2017, and Trump wanted to ruin the streets of D.C. with these heavy-ass tanks and running down the streets? And Mathis said, quote, I would rather swallow acid than do that. Well, now there's a DEI hire, Daniel Driscoll, in charge of the army, and he will do it. Another DEI hire, a man famous for being a day drunk and being abusive to women, of course, his major qualification, given the diversity, equity and inclusion of whiteness, is his white maleness to be the secretary, in fact, of defense, the Pete Hegseth.

For him to troll, to carry out this trolling of renaming these ships, the Harriet Tubman, the Megawiley Everest, as you say, and then to replace Robert Eadley and, of course, the clown, whose brain is clearly addled, who is not well mentally, to let seep out of his orange mouth the other day we're renaming everything the Robert Ely. Okay you didn't even remember to keep up the cosplay of the brother who you're swapping the name out for because you're not swapping out the name and this is the point they are trolling us we must stay focused we must stay focused on the fact

that they're going to try now to throw everybody off their health care, as many as they can. They couldn't repeal Obamacare one way, so now defunding it is their strategy. They couldn't go after the Inflation Reduction Act and Joe Biden, so now their way to do it is to starve it with this big BS bill. That is the major thing in front of us right now. Confronting folks in the streets, weaponizing the National Guard, sending active military into the streets, all of that will not pass constitutional muster and it will be sorted out. In the meantime trolling, putting your hands on United States senators, trolling, changing names on boats, trolling, all of

that is pursuant to the strategy that Steve Bannon said years ago, throw everything against the wall, keep them responding. Crisis, crisis, crisis. It's like cats chasing a flashlight beam. If we stay focused, we will be able not only to survive this, but to transcend it. We have to stay focused and we have to stay engaged. You're right Roland. What we're going to see all over this country on Saturday in terms of this No More Kings piece, it's simple enough, it's like a meme, No More Kings, three words, and that is going to look like a drop in the bucket as week after week, month after month, the protests get larger, the people get more involved, and I'll end with this. I'm not calling for this. I hope it doesn't happen. But ask yourself what

would happen if they put their hands on your mother, on your baby, on your husband or wife. Ask what would happen if they bust in the sixth grade class and snatch your nephew. And you will have the answer to what some of these these charged up on DEI white supremacy boys and the Negroes who follow them are going to face when they put their hands on the right one and at that point you have all the ingredients for an explosion and God only knows what happens after that. Indeed indeed all right folks real quick story. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools commissioned on colleges investigating another HBCU, this time Florida A&M.

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And as if you wanna see that, what we're gonna do is tomorrow, at the conclusion of tomorrow's show, we're actually going to show you my speech to the folks in attendance there, again, challenging them, if you will, challenging them to take advantage of the fact that this city has a 62 percent black population. But when you look at the economics of this city, it doesn't even come close to the success that African Americans have had in places like Atlanta, Washington, D.C., and other places.

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