#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Senate Dems Walkout, GOP $9B Aid & NPR/PBS Cuts, Prison Phone Fee Outrage & Wild Tuberville Rant

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Starting point is 00:03:03 They're idiots. Also, how dumb is Donald Trump's prosecutors? They literally want a cop who was found guilty of the death of Breonna Taylor to serve one day in jail. One day in jail. Yep, that's real. Also, Tommy Tuberville, we know he's an idiot. He literally says, you want to hang around legal, you should be deported too. This guy's real also. Tommy Tuberville, we know he's an idiot. He literally says you want to hang around legals,

Starting point is 00:03:25 you should be deported too. This guy's just dumb. We'll show you that whole deal as well. So plus we'll talk about what happens when you're in prison and you got to make phone calls. Why does it cost so much? Well, Democrats cut those fees. Republicans now say, nah, what the hell.

Starting point is 00:03:42 Charge him out the wazoo. We're talking to the FCC Commissioner who was on the commission who actually pushed this through. Folks, it's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Study Network. Let's go. And when it breaks, he's right on time And it's Rowlin', best belief he's knowin' Puttin' it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks, he's Rowlin' It's Uncle Row-Row-Yaw It's Row Martin. Yeah, rolling with rolling now. Yeah, he's funky, he's fresh, he's real, the best you know.

Starting point is 00:04:32 He's rolling Martin now. Martin. I've told y'all many times Republicans don't give a damn about rules or customs. They do whatever it is they want to do. And today in the Senate Judiciary Committee, same thing happened. Normally when you vote on advancing judges, both sides get to talk. Republicans are like, you know what? We don't want to hear what y'all have to say. That pissed off Democrats. So they literally walked out of the meeting and sent

Starting point is 00:05:07 a Cory Booker late into them. Watch this. To pass jurisdiction and pass president. Why are you doing this? This is outrageous. This is a kangaroo court. That's what we have here. This is wrong. To violate your own rules without going by the, the, the mandates of the parliamentarian. This is unbelievable. There's a way to do this. If you want to force this through, if you want to ram this through, there's a way to do it in accordance to the rules as spelled out by the parliamentarian.

Starting point is 00:05:39 It is simple. It is clear. There's a pathway to achieve what you're trying to achieve. But sir, this lacks decency. It lacks decorum. It shows that you do not want to simply hear from your colleagues. This is absolutely wrong. And sir, this is, this is to me, one of those moments where we are not showing common respect for each other on both sides. I have sat here when we were in the majority and listened to my colleagues' arguments, listened to their passionate statements, and then we voted. This is not that.

Starting point is 00:06:14 This is us simply trying to rush through one of the most controversial nominees we've had under this presidential administration. Sir, God bless America. You are a good man. You are a decent man. Why are you doing this? What is Donald Trump saying to you that are making you do something which is violating the decorum of this committee,

Starting point is 00:06:35 the rules of this committee, the decency, and the respect that we have each other to at least hear each other out? I sat through so many long speeches of my colleagues, heard their objections, listened with sincerity to try to see what their arguments are. But we are not doing that. Sir, this is wrong. And you know it.

Starting point is 00:06:54 There are some people on this committee who are the least firebrand people, and they've walked out. Some of the least controversial people in this Senate, some of the people who worked the hardest to find bipartisan common ground, have just walked out. Some of the least controversial people in this Senate, some of the people that worked the hardest to find bipartisan common ground have just walked out of this committee.

Starting point is 00:07:10 And you don't even seem to care, but I know you do. I know your heart, Senator Grassley. This is wrong. I know the kind of person you are, and you know this is wrong. This is not necessary. What is another half an hour to allow senators to be heard? It's what the Constitution mandates. It's the ideals of the United States Senate.

Starting point is 00:07:30 The world's most deliberative body should take a decent amount of time to deliberate. But here we're not doing that. Here we are jamming this through with some sense of false urgency. It's one thing not to hear from whistleblowers. It's another thing not to hold another hearing. But to not even allow my colleagues

Starting point is 00:07:50 to have their moment to speak against this justice, it's just wrong. And I know you know this. I know you know this. The only time this rule has ever been overturned by both parties was done when one minority was trying to pull some stunt to stop the committee from hearing. This is not that.

Starting point is 00:08:08 This is not the two-hour rule. This is a basic element of the ideals of this committee, sir. It is the basic understanding of having debate and deliberation. It's a basic understanding of we can listen to each other even if we disagree. That we should have time and space and a forum to listen. Sir, this is just wrong in every way. It is wrong in every single way. This is an abuse of power.

Starting point is 00:08:37 It's an undermining of the well-being and the integrity of this Senate and this committee that I for so long I've been so honored to be a part of. I, this is wrong, sir. And I joined with my colleagues and leaving. This is a sham. This is wrong. We're better than this. Pratt to the floor. Now we'll have Folks, my panel, Dr. Nola Haines, Georgetown University, School of Foreign Service, Dr. Greg Carraines, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, Dr. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies,

Starting point is 00:09:07 Howard University, Recy Colbert, host of the Recy Colbert Show, Sirius XM Radio. This is real simple for me, Recy. Listen, you walked out, okay? Let's just real quick. Republicans don't give a damn about the rules. They're not gonna play by the rules. I keep trying to explain to people this.

Starting point is 00:09:21 Democrats can yell and scream, oh my God, this is not right, this is not right. You know, they're the rules. When they get power, they don't care. So here's the question Democrats, how are you going to penalize them? Those Democrats that walked out or they're going to say, you know what? Guess what? No nominations move forward. No appointments move forward.

Starting point is 00:09:38 I'm putting a whole same thing. Tommy Toroville did same thing. Rand Paul did same thing. They do. How are you going to use the rules to say, you know what, I'm going to slow everything down in the US Senate is going to come to a screeching halt? That's all I want to know. Okay.

Starting point is 00:09:54 I don't want to hear another damn speech. I appreciate what Senator Cory Booker had to say, and that's fine. But we know exactly why they didn't want Democrats to talk. We know they didn't want them ripping into email bowl We know they didn't want them showing how grossly unqualified and corrupt this man is and don't be shocked if Trump Tries to put him on the Supreme Court, but the bottom line is is here City Democrats you have to make them pay and you must make them pay every single day racy You know you talk about Democrats and you talk about Senate Democrats them pay every single day, Reese.

Starting point is 00:10:27 You know, you talk about Democrats and you talk about Senate Democrats, they can't bust a grape. Like that was ridiculous. Um, Senator Cory Booker, how are you complimenting them in the middle of protests and, oh, you're a good man. I know you care. Not a fuck. They don't. And they're not good people.

Starting point is 00:10:40 And I wish that they would stop this, my friend, my friend bullshit and just rip into them. I don't know how you walk out, but you give a whole speech that's trying to appeal to their better angels, which they're big ass demons. So I feel like, you know, the other people have the right idea by just walking out, go ahead and finish your speech outside instead of dignifying that. And the last thing I'll say is, listen, I don't think that Democratic voters really give a damn about rules like that, not as much as Senate Democrats or even House Democrats

Starting point is 00:11:10 do. What Democrats care about is results. And they're tired of constantly hearing excuses as to why the rules prevent them from getting results. Then, when Republicans get in, they say, to hell with all that shit, and they ram through their agenda. And so, you know, as much as I would like to give grace to Senator Cory Booker, that is a prime example of why Democrats lose.

Starting point is 00:11:34 That's a prime example of why people are dissatisfied with the non-fighting spirit of Democrats. And that's a prime example of how we are bringing a knife to a gunfight. I'm just sitting here and look, if you're going to sit, you're going to sit there. You should have just called them each by name. You should have, you should have sat there and said, shame on you, grassley, shame on you, Lizzie Graham, shame on you, John Cornyn, same shame on you, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Josh Holly. Should name all of them. And you should have said, I'm telling you right now,

Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm coming after every single one of y'all, and I'm gonna shut everything down. I'm sorry if you're not going to retaliate, Nola. All you're doing is just flapping your gums. Nola, if you don't hit that damn mute button, we go through this every single week. How in the hell, your computer says on off, on off. Mic, it's a slash in the mic. It's a not.

Starting point is 00:12:47 How do you not? This was my fault. This time it was my fault. Last time it wasn't my fault. I take that L. But as I was saying, so eloquently. Thank you boo. Yeah, as you were saying,

Starting point is 00:12:59 nobody knows what the hell you were saying. Well, let me get to it, sir. Thank you. OK, so I saw two things. I saw a man's heartbreaking for the statesmanship for something that he clearly cares a great deal about. That's one thing that I saw. And then another thing that I saw

Starting point is 00:13:19 was a strategy that does not work, appealing to their better natures. You know, it's people that have access to the Hill, Roland, you know this, everybody here knows this. What happens performatively is not necessarily what happens behind the scenes. So my thing is, okay, if you're going to use strategy appealing to his better nature, I want you to call out that moment when y'all had that conversation about what was said in private, if that's going to be the strategy that you're going to use. Because just appealing to him about,

Starting point is 00:13:47 I know that you're better than this, you know that this is wrong. Why does he know that is wrong? Tell us specifically what you are talking about. Because this particular plan of attack, it just makes Senator Booker look like he's know, he's not understanding the assignment. And I know very well he understands the assignment. But mostly what I heard, and I'm not going to sit here and lie, I heard someone's heartbreaking

Starting point is 00:14:14 for the complete breakdown of the democratic system. And it is heartbreaking. You know, I've dedicated my life studying, you know, political science. This is my life. This is my world. So I get it. But to Reese's point, what we need right now, we need gunslingers, you know, and I understand Senator Booker's hesitancy in trying to hold on to that statesmanship. But that ship has long sailed.

Starting point is 00:14:42 OK, they are appointing a shameful, despicable person in email both. They don't care Greg. And so this all this statement, they don't care about collegiality. They don't care about the rules. Their whole deal was, Hey, we want that thought on a federal bench. We don't want you guys ripping into him because we don't want to playing on television. So we're just going to shut you up. They showed you who they are. So guess what you now say? I am going to make you pay.

Starting point is 00:15:12 I am going to bring this sucker to a halt. You shut it down, but no, they just threatened. And when, of course, when they got the power, they don't do it. Oh no, our colleagues, you know, we do the right thing. Hell no. I have long been saying you have to make them pay. Yes, sir, you're right. And you're right. Of course, they can't. God bless Cory Booker.

Starting point is 00:15:35 He won't. He's a decent human being. Chuck Grassley, on the other hand, a hard-right nationalist who was, I think, his last birthday was 150,000 years old, who was being eviscerated. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.

Starting point is 00:15:57 And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News, it's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it.

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Starting point is 00:18:48 doesn't appear to know where he is most of the time, but who is functioning very efficiently as a tool of open white nationalism. Of course he's going to ignore Cory Booker. They can't stop this right now. Emile Beauvais is a particularly nasty piece of work, a failure as a lawyer, who has been put in place exactly for the reason that you mentioned earlier, which is ultimately to

Starting point is 00:19:11 be advanced to the Supreme Court of the United States, which is where the real fight will be. The names you listed, Roland, on the U.S. Senate committee on the judiciary, if there's a parallel at all, not perfect, but it's close enough, it's house oversight. So you've got, you know, pro-Magnon Marjorie Taylor Greene, you've got, of course, Jasper Crockett. Well, that counterparts the Judiciary Committee. Everyone you name is a hard white nationalist. You know, Lindsey Graham, the completely supple, soft, compliant Lindsey Graham. Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, hardcore white nationalist,

Starting point is 00:19:48 young Josh Hawley, who is now, this feckless man, trying to claw back some of the Medicaid that he voted to take away now. He wants to bring it back. Tom Tillis, who straight ass quit, rather than face his lord and master, Jesus Trump. John Kennedy, the fake Falkhorn Leghorn out of Louisiana. Marsha Blackburn, that nasty piece of work out of Tennessee. Eric Schmidt, a straight

Starting point is 00:20:10 fascist ideologue out of Missouri. Katie Britt, whose stupidity is only surpassed by her colleague, Mr. Kurt Stuberveil out of Alabama. And Ashley Moody, young Ashley Moody out of Florida. Their job is to be the hardcore white nationalist intellectual's tip of the spear when it comes to the evisceration of the judiciary. They have one job and one job only which they achieve today, which is get Emile Bové, the man who let Eric Adams off the hook in New York, the man who lost every damn case he's been in defending Trump, including the one in New York. Emile Bové's job is to get on the Supreme Court.

Starting point is 00:20:44 Donald Trump's job is to put him there. And Donald Trump, it ain one in New York. Emile Boves' job is to get on the Supreme Court. Donald Trump's job is to put him there. And Donald Trump, it ain't his idea. This is all about hardcore white nationalism. How do you stop it? You get your ass out, check your registration, and vote to break their political backs, because Boves is going to be on the Third Circuit. And once he's on the Third Circuit, the real show will be when they bring him back and nominate him for the Supreme Court, because if you don't think those phone calls haven't been

Starting point is 00:21:07 made to Sammy the Bull Alito and Mr. R.V., Mr. Holy's own subsidiary of billionaires, Clarence, blackface, white nationalist Thomas, then you're not paying attention. That will be where the fight will be, and you can stop him dead in his tracks then. But that's going to require a little voting voting in the next election the midterm election These people are Thugs they do not care and you have to penalize them You must eviscerate them you must go after them and I'm telling you right now This is real simple. Dick Durbin, do you have the

Starting point is 00:21:46 guts? Amy Klobuchar, do you have the guts? Sheldon Whitehouse, do you have the guts? Cory Booker, do you have the guts? I can go on and on and on and name every single Democrat on this committee, but the question is, do you have the fight in you? Senator Chuck Schumer? I don't want to see another lame bullshit speech on the floor. I want to know, are you going to pay? I want to know, is a, is a Democrat going to go to the floor and say, I'm shutting this shit down. I'm putting a hole on every single confirmation, every single nomination. I'm going to make y'all. I'm going to make y'all have to go through every procedure to get anything passed. Do you mean to tell me there's not one Senate

Starting point is 00:22:39 Democrat that has the guts to do that? Brian Shatz, where you at? Gillibrand, where you at? Warnock, where you at? Also Brooks, where you at? These people sat here and said, nah, y'all ain't even talking. Y'all ain't even speaking. I'm shutting it down

Starting point is 00:23:05 Booker you can sit over there and talk gonna keep calling the roll We don't give a damn what that nigga over there talking keep calling the road. That's literally what they did and If they allow this to move forward Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. No. See this is why people are saying Listen weakness is going on here. Black pack has a new poll out. We're going to talk about a little bit later that shows that black folks are ripping Trump

Starting point is 00:23:32 and they got no confidence that Democrats got any fight in them. What does Dion Sanders say? I, he said, I'm recruiting some folks that got some dog in them. They ain't got no dog. They ain't trying to swing at all. They are no no no no my no I know you I know your heart. I you're good man. You're great. I love it. I know your heart. You know this is not right and all that grass is like yeah yeah keep calling them names. Yeah. I ain't

Starting point is 00:24:00 listening to his ass. He didn't tell me nothing. He didn't tell me nothing. He didn't tell me nothing. And they all said that they also looked at him like look at his ass. He don't mean nothing. He don't mean nothing. He don't mean nothing. And they all said that. They all said, look at him like, look at his ass. Yeah, keep talking. They like, yeah, we got the votes. Keep talking. Keep running your mouth.

Starting point is 00:24:13 The only way you stop people is when you make them pay. You have to park. Who does Cory Booker think wants that? Who does he think? You giving a whole grand speech about, oh, I know your heart. I know you a good man. Who do you think wants that? Who does he think? You've given a whole grand speech about, oh, I know your heart. I know you're a good man. Who do you think wants that? Because none of the polls are saying,

Starting point is 00:24:30 I know the focus groups aren't saying it. So I'm just confused as to why he continues this nice guy act, when that ain't what people are looking for right now. You're not confused with what it is? So I'm just not playing this game with them. And I'm telling you, you have to make them pay. And I just want to know. I just want to know, are they going to say,

Starting point is 00:24:53 I'm shutting everything down, I'm bringing it to a screeching halt? If y'all ain't willing to do that, that walkout, that's a waste of damn time. Y'all just, that didn't mean nothing. I'm gonna go to break, we come back. This is more the bullshit of Trump. We told y'all this during the campaign.

Starting point is 00:25:12 We told y'all that, we told y'all what the man said. We played y'all what he said. He said, I am going to give a cop 100% immunity. Well, guess what? His prosecutors are saying the cop who was convicted and Brown-Taylor's death, he's just being one day in jail. We're gonna discuss it next. You're watching Roller Mark Unfiltered

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Starting point is 00:26:17 Roland Martin on Unfiltered. All right, folks, after five years, the Department of Justice is recommending that a former police officer in Louisville, Kentucky, who was convicted of violating Breonna Taylor's civil rights when she was shot and killed by cops in 2020, served just one day in jail. One day. Brett Hankison, a former Louisville officer was found guilty last year on one count of depriving Taylor of her civil rights after firing multiple shots through a bedroom window during a botched police raid. The proposed one day sentence would amount to time served, meaning Hankison would not return to jail.

Starting point is 00:27:05 Spent 10 months in jail. Taylor's death became a flash point for the Black Lives Matter movement. He won a several high profile cases that ignited nationwide protests against police violence in 2020. Now again, he wasn't convicted of murder. And keep in mind, you had armed juries. Then of course, this took place on the federal level well his was so crazy about this that none of the prosecutors none of the career prosecutors signed this deal this is

Starting point is 00:27:33 one of Trump's appointees that did so because it goes to show you we already said they want to let cops off they want to let them off. This is what they do. And it's shameful and despicable. Joining us right now, one of the family attorneys for the Brea Taylor family, Linda Baker, a managing partner of Baker & Westbrook. How are you? How you doing? Well, I've been better. I'll say that, but today's been a rough day. Absolutely. So again, say time served. So how many months has this officer been in jail? He's not been in jail for any months. He has only served. The one day is when he went to get booked, posted his bind, did the paperwork and got out. So he's only been in jail probably less than two hours. And that's what the prosecutors are. So when the prosecutors say time served, what the hell does that mean? Those few hours that he did, that's it.

Starting point is 00:28:50 It's a slap in the face to the work that the career prosecutors have done. I do want to acknowledge and commend Kristen Clarke, the prior assistant attorney general, and her career prosecutors, Mike Songer and Anna Gottfried, who worked very hard to get the convictions of—this conviction of Brett Hankinson. Two trials, because the first was a hung jury and then securing the conviction back in November. They worked hard. They are not the individuals who signed this memorandum. They changed prosecutors yesterday, and the prosecutor who signed this memorandum. They changed prosecutors yesterday, and the prosecutor who signed this memorandum did

Starting point is 00:29:29 not even have the decency, was such a coward that he could not even talk to Breonna's family. So, this is also a coward, Harmeet Dhillon. She is the person Trump nominated as the assistant attorney general for civil rights. She was the one asking the judge in this case to send us him to one day in prison. This is the New York Times story. Actually, this is what she wrote. She first of all called this excessive.

Starting point is 00:29:57 She called the prosecution excessive. Quote, in this case, two federal trials were ultimately necessary to obtain a unanimous verdict of guilt. Well, that happens. The jury's verdict will almost certainly ensure that the defendant Hankinson never serves as a law enforcement officer again, and will also likely ensure that he never legally possesses a firearm again. Oh, well, skews the hell out of us. Of course, he's now a felon. He was fired from his job five years ago. And she literally goes,

Starting point is 00:30:28 oh, he's paid a substantial penalty for his actions. It's horrible. He shouldn't be able to have a firearm. He shouldn't be able to serve his law enforcement. He terrorized the streets of Louisville, Kentucky for way too long. And he finally got his just due.

Starting point is 00:30:46 And what he is being sentenced for is violating the civil rights of Breonna Taylor. They made so many mentions of he did not kill her. He was not charged with killing her. He was charged with violating her civil rights. And a jury, an all-white jury, found that there was sufficient evidence to convict him, and they did. And what's interesting is, according to the sentencing report from Probation and Parole, the guidelines, what he should be facing, and what I hope the judge does sentence him

Starting point is 00:31:13 to on Monday, is between 135 months and 168 months. I had to get my calculator out, divide those by 12, and we got 11 and a half years to 14 years, is what he should be looking at. But here you have prosecutors playing politics and asking for one day. And I just hope the judge sees through this and gives this family the justice that they deserve. Yeah, and actually, when you look at the toll numbers, he actually faces a maximum sentence of life in prison. I mean, that's what the maximum could be, but you have sentencing guidelines. And the reality is this here,

Starting point is 00:31:48 which we might as well understand is gonna happen. If this judge ignores Trump's DOJ, sentences him, we know Trump is gonna pardon him. But with that being said, this judge should still tell Trump's DOJ to go to hell. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And if they want to let him go, they need to do it.

Starting point is 00:32:13 They have put this judge in an unfair position to say, give him one day, to deviate so drastically from the sentencing guidelines, which that's what this system that's not even meant for us in the beginning is supposed to be, you know—they justify the discrepancies in crack and cocaine because of sentencing guidelines, right? They live by these sentencing guidelines, but here they want you to deviate so substantially to go from 11 and a half years being the minimum in the guidelines to one day. They're putting the judge in a horrible position. And if you want to let him out, if Trump's DOJ wants to let him out, it needs to be Trump

Starting point is 00:32:50 that does that, not this judge. Yeah. I mean, that's the reality of what we're dealing with. We talk about what happens in so many of these cases. And it's absolutely frustrating when it happens. You know, I look at another case, former Philadelphia police officer Mark Dial, who failed to shout a person,

Starting point is 00:33:18 was released on parole after he was sentenced. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News.

Starting point is 00:33:39 It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

Starting point is 00:33:59 The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like no 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is

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Starting point is 00:36:12 themselves. Find resources for breaking through barriers at tearthepaperceiling.org Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. Dude, I mean, again, same thing would happen in that particular case. They're like, well, you know, my partner said he had a gun, but he didn't. Mistakes happen. The guy ends up dead. And it's kind of like, what? This guy served 10 months in prison for voluntary manslaughter.

Starting point is 00:36:36 And now he now he walks out. I mean, this this but and this is what goes to show what people are fighting about. This also says what happens in this country where you have what these folks on the right, they do not believe cops should pay any price for what took place. So whether it is Hankison, whether it is Mardal, they don't care. They want to let people off. And you know what? For all of these black folks who were sitting here talking all that crap, people like Dr. Umar Johnson, who was saying that, oh, Trump and Kamala, they're the same. Do you actually think President Kamala Harris' DOJ will be recommending one day in jail for

Starting point is 00:37:20 Brett Hankinson? I don't think so. Yeah. And it's absolutely true. And it's one of the, you know, you said you warned the people, I warned the people, I said, we cannot afford to have a Trump DOJ. Everything that we fought for from 2020 through now,

Starting point is 00:37:36 the consent decree, that's been overturned, or the DOJ said, we're not a bye-bye judge, just do away with it. And now here we have this conviction that was secure. So much work that was done by the Civil Rights Division during the Biden administration that people were just willing to throw away because they didn't like, you know, policies all the way around. And this is what happens when we get so focused on one issue.

Starting point is 00:38:03 Those things that we've been fighting about get thrown to the side. And criminal justice, holding the police accountable, that Kristen Clark's Civil Rights Division did just that. And this DOJ is now doing everything that they can to undo everything that she worked so hard to secure and to protect black and brown people. Yeah, absolutely. And it's sad, it's despicable, and people just need to understand that when we spent so much time talking about the importance of voting, and then you had all of these idiots,

Starting point is 00:38:43 oh, tangibles, tangibles. Oh, what are tangibles? Well, guess what? Christian Clark, being the head of the Civil Rights Division in the Department of Justice, that was a damn tangible. Getting these convictions, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, assuming that was a damn tangible.

Starting point is 00:38:58 But those same people are silent as hell right now. They are real silent right now about stuff like this. They're real silent about Trump getting rid of the consent decrees. They're real silent about all these actions that they're taking that are anti-black, but these are so-called hotel black conscious folk. That's what they claim to be, but they're silent right now. And then they say, oh, well, y'all were just saying that stuff because, well, we didn't think it was going to happen. Well, guess what?

Starting point is 00:39:32 And we're only six months in. We still got three and a half more years of this absolute idiot being in the White House. Yeah. And we've not figured out how to fight it. Not saying we, but people have not figured out how to fight it. Not saying we, but people have not figured out how to fight, what are we doing to combat this attack on black and brown people? It's strong, he's doing exactly what he said he would do.

Starting point is 00:39:57 And Dems are sitting on their hands trying to figure out what do we do? And it's like, fight back. Fight back. Yep. Absolutely. Linda Baker, we appreciate it. Please give Breonna Taylor's mother our regards.

Starting point is 00:40:13 Thank you. To my panel, Greg, I mean, we walk through this every single day. And that was a drop off of black voter participation. And then you had a whole bunch of loud, ignorant, dumb ass black people who were sitting here on social media, on YouTube, running their miles, don't vote, tangibles, if they don't give us this,

Starting point is 00:40:44 we ain't voting. Ah, no, we survive slavery. We can survive. We survived the last four years of Trump. We can survive four more years. What these idiots don't understand is that Emil Bolv nomination. Oh, they are relishing putting, putting Klansmen, white supremacists on the Supreme Court. Oh, they can't wait to replace Alito and Clarence Thomas with a 45 or 48 year old federal judge who is going to be so hard right that they're going to be so far right, they'll be damn near left. These folks, they want to shut it all down. I have consistently said they want to defund black America.

Starting point is 00:41:28 They want to strip everything when it comes to civil rights. They want to strip economic rights. They want it all. They absolutely do. And I confess, you know, I say it consistently. I confess to having a bit of, I'm enthusiastic. I won't call it euphoric yet. Those of my friends who are well studied, as our friend Gerald Horn calls them, our friends on the left, whose basic argument for saying that

Starting point is 00:42:01 we live in a duopoly and voting doesn't matter in those contexts that this has to get worse before it gets better. Well, that's the theory that we're in now. They're absolutely clan. They're absolutely clan. Harmi Dillon, another nasty piece of work heading the Civil Rights Division. Her little friend, her in-house counsel who pushed this forward, they're clan adjacent. And I think that I agree with those who would argue that this is all part of a larger strategy, which is to try to force us into the street and confrontation. This is what deploying the Marines in California is about. This is what these nasty provocations are about. Now, I'm not really enthusiastic about beating up on the Democrats, and I'll tell you why.

Starting point is 00:42:56 Because they seem to believe that this is a country. People get a little irritated when I say it's not a nation. It's a state with a lot of different nations in it. The illusion that the United States of America, that you people who live here are a people, constituted people. Someone please show me somewhere in the history where that's true. And I'm willing to rethink what I'm thinking, but I haven't seen it yet. And I doubt I will see it. People who seem to think that

Starting point is 00:43:25 somehow white supremacy can be overcome by finding common ground. You don't understand white supremacy. You really don't. That's why the people are saying, MAGA is fighting itself. No, no. Blood calls, blood, blood answers. Their Trump may not be the Superman they had hoped him to be, but they're always going to pick him right or wrong with a six-year-old sitting in his lap over you. So don't try to appeal to any logic. What we're seeing here is a provocation. They know exactly what they're doing.

Starting point is 00:43:52 Expecting a judge to rule differently, I think there are two ways that can cut, finally. If this judge does say, no, I'm going to give them substantially more time, it could extend the possibility that the rule of law could kick in, but that also extends the illusion, the delusion somehow that African people have in this country that there is a solution that's going to allow them to sit on the sidelines. Alternatively, if the judge takes the recommendation, and this is indeed what happens, and make no mistake, exactly what you said, Trump's going to pardon him, he'll be back on law enforcement somewhere. And if he's not on law him, he'll be back on law enforcement somewhere.

Starting point is 00:44:25 And if he's not on law enforcement, he'll be on somebody's private security detail, maybe in Stephen Miller or somebody, or they're gonna take care of Brett Ankers and that nasty little piece of work. But either way, we're going to have to fight. That is what our ancestors did a day after Ida B. Wells' birthday yesterday.

Starting point is 00:44:43 We've gotta fight. And that fighting isn't just in the ballot box. That fighting may end up being in the street. But this confrontation is going to be unavoidable. The United States of America is going to fall apart. They are now pressing the gas pedal. And in pressing the gas pedal, they're going to realize that the rest of us may try to play nice, but once this facade falls, the confrontation is going to leave in its wake a very different country than we live in.

Starting point is 00:45:10 Those of you who think that I'm talking big enough, you don't know enough history to even have this argument with me. I'm very clear about what's happening now. So I have a little bit of enthusiasm because it was going to come to this one day either way. You know, Racy, and I've seen this in other group chats. Folks like, oh, they're trying to bait us. They're trying to bait us. But you know what?

Starting point is 00:45:40 Whether folk want it or not, when them Latinos fought back against ICE, oh, people responded. See, we know he wants to invoke the Insurrection Act. We know this. But they also are counting on people being afraid. They're counting on people being too scared. And if there was ever a moment where they have to be met with massive protests,

Starting point is 00:46:15 this is that moment. But it cannot be gathering just for the hell of it. It has to be not. Well, we're going to be in this city of this city. We're going to have the protest. No, no, it has to be a strategic protest that is around voting. See, you've got mayoral elections in New Orleans in the fall. You've got the Virginia House and Senate race. You have to make them pay politically.

Starting point is 00:46:46 And so you must be utilizing protests that first of all mobilizes people. Then once you mobilize them, you organize them. And now you direct them to a certain thing. But these people cannot believe that they have a free license to do what they're doing. And they do have a free license to do what they're doing. And they do have a free license to do what they're doing. The bait was November 5th.

Starting point is 00:47:11 The fuck, they literally put out a 900 page document that said they were going to do all the shit that they're doing. Project 2025.observer says they're 61% complete with their DOJ objectives, one of which being undoing the consent decrees that related to Breonna Taylor, that related to George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery, and Tyree Nick was down in Memphis. So they already know they can do exactly what the fuck they're doing,

Starting point is 00:47:36 because who gonna check up? They pulled our punk card in November, and 89 million people stayed home. Donald Trump ran on giving police officers immunity. He said the same shit in front of you, Roland and ABJ. Oh, the one with the water. He never backed down on that. He never lied about what he planned to do.

Starting point is 00:47:55 He said it was gonna be open season on black people. When he got in, one of the first things that he did was pardon officer in DC who killed a black person. His DOJ has been letting cops who have been convicted of crimes out of jail, off the hook. This is another example of it. Republicans have been saying forever that your black life doesn't matter. Breonna Taylor was 26 years old when her house, when her house was raided based off a faulty warrant, faulty surveillance, shot into like guns in the Navarro. And this DOJ under Trump has said that her life is worth one day. That's it. That's the trade off between 60 plus years being taken off

Starting point is 00:48:41 her life and the life of a white cop. One day, a minor inconvenience for him. But this is who they told us who they are. This is who they told us they were, what they were going to do. And we allowed it to happen along with MAGA, who voted for it enthusiastically, along with people who stayed home. We had the capacity to say, hell no, we're not going back. That was Kamala's slogan, we're not going back.

Starting point is 00:49:09 And what do we do? We had lower turnout and lower support for Kamala Harris than even Hillary Clinton got. And I heard super predators a million times when Hillary Clinton was running. And yet Kamala Harris got less votes. So they know that they can do what they're doing. I don't think it's a provocation.

Starting point is 00:49:25 It is a, y'all ain't gonna do shit. And they might just be fucking right. You know when you sit elections out, you get what you get. And for the people who go, Oh my God, I didn't think it was going to go this far. I mean, again, you can't say that and tell you. They said it. We warned people. Ah, yeah, yeah, y'all shilling.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Y'all shilling. Yeah, y'all know Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Boyce Watkins, Tariq Nasheed, Umar Johnson, Philip Scott. Oh yeah, black authority. All y'all, all y'all, all y'all were all out. Look at them, they shilling. They, look at them, they shilling for the Democrats. They just shilled, they shilled. Yeah, look at y'all just shi- But ask Breonna Taylor mama how she feel today.

Starting point is 00:50:48 Ask Tamika Mallory and the folks at Untill Freedom who literally moved to Louisville fighting five years trying to make this thing happen. Folk who invested time and energy got COVID folks were sick and all that sort of stuff. But we listen to a whole bunch of folk Nola. Yeah, y'all just chilling y'all out there. Y'all trying to support and Kamala. She ain't doing nothing Shane Wayne back in her with all they were all running their mouths.

Starting point is 00:51:20 But it's amazing how silent they are today. They ain't saying nothing N, about Trump screwing those black folks in Lowndes County who got sewage backing up in their houses. They ain't saying nothing about the black folks in Cancer Alley where they canceled the lawsuit who've been dying because of the petrochemical companies there. They ain't saying nothing about the black folks who got screwed for voting rights and housing rights in Texas. Oh, they ain't saying nothing about the black folks who got screwed for voting rights and housing rights in Texas. Oh, they ain't saying nothing about them. They ain't saying a damn thing about them wanting to get rid of the DBE federal program. They ain't saying nothing about any of this stuff. They ain't saying, Jack, and oh, these are the same folk who love talking about

Starting point is 00:52:00 fight. We're going to have a topic coming up next. They ain't saying nothing how under a Democrat appointee on the FCC, change the damn law when it came to how many folks were getting overcharged for making phone calls in prison, Republicans got in and said, no, no, we throwing that out. We just gonna discuss that next. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, I forgot. Nola what no tangibles. Yeah, all

Starting point is 00:52:29 y'all FBA B one eight us assholes. Well, guess what? All that complaining y'all did. Welcome to Trump Magga America. I hope y'all are having a great time. No, go ahead before I go to break. You know, I have the same ignorance is seductive. And there has always existed in our community this kind of contrarian nature for the sake of being contrarian for the sake of, you know, being performative for the sake of making a point that isn't really there.

Starting point is 00:53:07 But I'm interested in pragmatism. I'm interested in voting for policies that make my life better and that make the lives better to people that I care about. And for whatever reason, those folks who are seduced by this facade that Trump Republicans, that MAGA folks are open and welcome, they welcome you in. I've heard this several times.

Starting point is 00:53:34 And I'm like, wait a minute. So the same group of people who welcome people in during the campaign, and then those same people who are on social media saying, oh, look, I went to this event. Or look, I'm in this group chat and they're treating me bad. They're calling me names. They're calling me out of my name. So it's just so many very interesting variables when you think about the black folks who

Starting point is 00:53:57 decided that voting for Trump or not voting at all would be the same. There is a level of conditioning that's happening in many different parts of the internet, in conversations, in group chats, that frankly, that a lot of liberal progressives, whatever you want to call Democrats, all the things were just not dialed into. I was at a dinner just a few weeks ago. And there are, you know, these different gatherings of folks in foreign policy. And the glaze over is still there. Because people are just now starting

Starting point is 00:54:32 to realize that we were existing in a bubble. Well, when I—I'm being generous when I say we. As a black woman, I don't have—you know, I can't exist in a bubble. I have to clear-eyed every single day. But they really were existing in this bubble of progress when all this other stuff was happening in the country. And that's what I'm interested in. I'm interested in what are we missing now? I mean, we're so busy dealing with all the shenanigans every single day from the Trump administration, but what are we missing now? I mean, we're so busy dealing with all the shenanigans every single day from the Trump administration.

Starting point is 00:55:06 But what are we missing now? Those same folks, Roland, that you're talking about that are being quiet. What are they doing, though? Are they still plugged into this, this, my grip thing? Like, I'm very curious about that. No, they're grifting. They're grifting. They're grifting.

Starting point is 00:55:21 That's what they're doing. I don't live in New York so I don't know. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News.

Starting point is 00:55:42 It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

Starting point is 00:56:01 The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.

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Starting point is 00:58:28 I love the Negroes who like oh, yeah We need to be support we need to be supporting black-owned businesses and fools We losing contracts left and right see see again. I ain't got time for him I ain't got time for him and that's why cuz normally I ignore these fools But again, no, it's amazing how quiet they are and they holler do for self or do for self or do for self or do for self somebody sent me somebody sent me a video of that little fool from Georgia I had on somebody posted they were all looking at this young brother you know he was eating rolling martin up and I'm like y'all fools

Starting point is 00:59:01 ain't realize y'all got played he came on the show back supporting that fool supported the Republicans of voter suppression in Georgia. He was at the at the Trump White House dancing at the Black History Month program. He said he had supported Brian Kemp over over Stacey Abrams. And he was hollering about, yeah, we don't need no government help. Yet he was trying to get a school building for his school from the government, the school district there. But again, the simple Simon Negroes fell for the okie doke, not even realizing he was mad the entire time.

Starting point is 00:59:33 And we have to understand that there are some gullible black people who fall for folk who come to us, who yell, do for self, who don't give a damn about our community, but they fronting. But then you got the people who love running their miles, talking about, uh, trying to, trying to shame somebody. Yeah. You this and you that and you a shield and you support and comma and you a Democrat. Well, let, let's see here. If I got a white supremacist

Starting point is 01:00:11 If I got a white supremacist who is going to employ a white supremacist like Stephen Miller and who says to me, I want to give cops 100% immunity. I want to shut down all civil rights programs. I want to shut down all affirmative action programs. If that's on this side, and on this side, I got a black woman who talked about, oh, all y'all Negro. She says she wasn't gonna do nothing specific for black people. What did he say he was going to do specific for black people? But we got a black woman over here who fought for record amounts of money for black contracts and through the SBA, HBCU funding, black

Starting point is 01:01:03 maternal health, and a host of others. But then y'all simple Simon Negro says she wasn't black enough. Oh, but we know he white enough and orange, but she wasn't black enough. So you think that's the choice I had between that fool and her? You got damn right. I was going with her. I would be a stupid fool to say I'm a side with the white supremacists against my people man y'all got me confused and rolling policy hmm which is a real quick, come on. I got my next guess.

Starting point is 01:01:47 I wanted to say specifically about her wanting to help caregivers. Okay, about her wanting to help caregivers. That affects black people. All these folks who think that magically you're not going to age, your parents are going to age one day. And that help that black lady wanted to give you all you're going to be wishing for trust and believe that's all I have to say.

Starting point is 01:02:12 All right we'll go to break and the next subject we talk about y'all has a disproportionate impact on black people and black families and black finance. Oh, but all of the pseudo super conscious Negroes, quiet. Matter of fact, we should be hollering where the fans at. We should be saying where the conscious Negroes at, clack clack.

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Starting point is 01:06:09 Folks, it was a major deal when the Federal Communications Commission capped the cost of prison phone calls that happened when Democrats had a majority of the FCC. Well, Republicans are now in charge. So you know what they said? Ah, we're going to go ahead and postpone that at least for a couple of years. So let's keep allowing these companies to make all this money. Mignon Clyburn was the FCC commissioner who pushed this in a serious way, took a lot of effort to get this passed. She joins us right now.

Starting point is 01:06:40 And this got to piss you off. All that hard work, and not just the hard work people don't understand How families are being utterly ripped off by these prison phone calls me on? rolling first It's good to be here. It's good to see you But not for this reason you're absolutely right We thought we had done it all. We thought we had checked every box, every complaint people had about the FCC not having jurisdiction

Starting point is 01:07:13 because it's a federal agency, and we have no right to tell the state jails and prisons what to charge. What did we do? We lobbied and lobbied in a legal way for an agency. And others got out there and went to Congress and said, please pass a bill. Guess what? Congress passed a bill. And not only did they pass a bill, it didn't give the FCC forever and a day

Starting point is 01:07:43 to come up with a series of rules and regulations to rectify this wrong. It said you have up to two years to do so. So April 1, these rates went into effect. I—in June 13? Well, well, well, well, well, what happened here was a small group. I'm reading from the prison policy initiative. I'm gonna pull this up in a second and show folks a small group of sheriffs complained about this and they got the FCC to do this.

Starting point is 01:08:23 And the FCC chairs Brendan Carr, who FCC chair is bringing a car. Who voted with y'all on this? He voted to put into place, he concurred in part. He did mention he had some concerns, but yes, he did vote for this direction. And yes, you are absolutely right. Almost out of nowhere, he said, we have issues. There are security concerns. There are issues that, honestly, Roland, each and every step we took addressed all of the issues that the people who are complaining now, mostly those who have an economic stake in this, are bringing to the fore.

Starting point is 01:09:05 And I just honestly, I was quiet for a number of a couple of weeks because I was just so devastated over this decision. We did everything by the book. We did cartwheels to ensure that we had jurisdiction. We had an open process that took almost two years to let every single person have an opportunity to weigh in, including the sheriffs, including these companies.

Starting point is 01:09:34 And we struck a balance just as about as perfect as it could get to have rates as low as six cents a minute to ensure that they weren't bringing in all of these phantom, I call them, unjust and unreasonable charges on top of that. Just keep in mind, some of these companies who providing these services aren't just providing services for telephone, they're doing a commissary's and the like, and on and on and on we're seeing this economic exploitation that for one moment, for less than a couple of months, we thought we were in the driver's seat.

Starting point is 01:10:11 And here we are, someone who is defying Congress. Congress passes laws, not the FCC, but this person said he's going to put his thumb on the time piece and said, up to two years, we're going to look at and address the issues that we've been looking at and addressing for more than 20 years, Roland. So here's what's crazy to me. And again, I'm having issues with my iPad, so I can't pull this up. But it says that, in large part, the move is a response to a small group of sheriffs who have lashed out in reaction to its 2024 order.

Starting point is 01:10:55 Maybe I can do it now. Here we go. Before the order, companies have been able to offer commissions. I need people to listen. Commissions and other kickbacks to agencies they partnered with, which drove up the prices of phone calls for consumers. The 2024 order barred companies from offering almost all

Starting point is 01:11:20 kickbacks and commissions. And retaliation, a handful of shares, most notably the Sheriff of Baxter County, Arkansas, have said they will no longer offer phone calls at all. So basically this share says, oh, if I can't get kickbacks for the high phone calls, damn y'all, y'all can't call anybody. And not only that, what's going on,

Starting point is 01:11:49 these phone calls have literally been the lifeline. Because you know what also is happening in some of these jurisdictions? Families cannot go and visit. You think you can spend your Sunday afternoon going and visiting some of these companies. Some of these places are barring that. So the only

Starting point is 01:12:05 means of seeing or hearing from your family member is either through a video call, which this was going to cap, because it hadn't before, or a standard telephone call, usually collect. Now, the people who are paying a price are mostly either those persons who are representing them, meaning the lawyers, mostly their families. And what has been happening with as rates got more just and more reasonable over the past few years, this is not our first rodeo when it comes to this. You saw usage rise. When people can afford to do something, they do it. And so you saw more people. Whoa, whoa, whoa. May, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may,

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Starting point is 01:13:00 may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may prisons, 14 cents a minute, large jails, 1000 plus 16 cents, medium jails, 350 to 999 21 cents, small jails, 100, 349 21 cents, very small jails, 21 cents. So you see right there, small jails, they were charging 21 cents a minute. right there. Small jails, they were charging 21 cents a minute. The new phone rates were six, seven, nine and 12 cents. The new video rate caps were 16 cents, 11, 12 cents, 14 cents, 25 cents. And so here's the reality. So what this means is that your loved one, you got somebody who's in prison. So under if they were being charged

Starting point is 01:13:51 14 cents in the old rates, now they're being charged six cents. That means many on taking now call home twice as often. Exactly. Because it's now six cents. So now if I make two calls, but now that it's six cents a minute versus 14 cents a minute, um, and then small jails, it was 21 cents a minute. Then it goes down to meet, it goes down to seven cents or nine cents or 12 cents, depending upon the jail. And what we have is this is greed. This is sheriffs. This is this is local jails. They were making a killing off of this. And that this is another tax on

Starting point is 01:14:33 the families who have loved ones who are locked up in jail. And this is Republicans. This is a Republican appointed FCC chair in Brendan Carr, who made this decision. And as you said, Congress passed the law. So I don't understand how in the hell can Congress pass a law and mandate right here. The effective date was April 1st and he goes, Oh, the hell with Congress. I think y'all got the hell with the hell with the law. I'm gonna tell Y'all ain't got to live. The hell with the law. I'm going to tell y'all we don't have to now impose this.

Starting point is 01:15:08 This is crazy. I have never seen anything like it. When I sat on that bench with my colleagues, mostly from the other side of the aisle, you know what they would say to me? I don't tell Congress what to do. Congress tells me what to do. Well, Congress spoke. And guess what? They're not doing what Congress said to do. And I really do not understand

Starting point is 01:15:36 this. It boggles my mind. The same people I sat next to who said we are to follow the law, not make the law, we are to interpret it strictly in the way, in a manner in which it was presented. And now you say we have problems with some security concerns. We have this concern, we get great complaints. Yes, you're going to get complaints because the structure that everybody benefited from,

Starting point is 01:16:04 when I say everybody, I mean the facilities as well as the providers. That is being short-circuited. They are getting rid of those site commissions. You know, I'm being nice when I say site commissions. And now, since they can't, they don't have their profit sharing model, now there's a problem.

Starting point is 01:16:28 All of a sudden there's a problem. So this, so I want to show this. Hold up, Mignon, I want to show people this, because what you're talking about. This is from a previous story in the Prison Policy Institute. Y'all watch this. The FCC's order takes the momentous step of prohibiting companies from paying most kickbacks or in the industries and FCC terminology quote cites commissions to contracting agencies. Commissions as we have written before are a major factor

Starting point is 01:16:56 driving up the cost of prison and jail telecom services. Counties and states choose their telecom provider based on which one will offer the highest commission payments and companies offset the cost of paying these kickbacks by raising their rates. The new rules appear to restrict site commissions in all of their many forms, including quote, donations of free technology or other gifts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

Starting point is 01:17:32 There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's Teddy escapes, Blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future,

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Starting point is 01:20:40 contracts and and some of your listeners will affirm, especially those in business, you know who got the contract? The lowest bidder. That is what we were accustomed to because you were supposed to be looking out for our money. That is clearly not happening here. The lowest bidder loses.

Starting point is 01:21:01 And what does that mean? That means families lose. You're talking about conservatively 2.7 million children who have at least one parent incarcerated who cannot afford to speak with them. You're talking about 70, 70 plus thousand people coming out of jails and prisons each year. And you're 70 to plus thousand people coming out of jails and prisons each year. And they go home as strangers, because during the course of their sentence, they could not afford to speak. This is a problem that is bankrupting families. It is tearing families apart. You ask any teacher, he or she can almost tell you whose parent is incarcerated by the

Starting point is 01:21:52 behavior of the child. This is causing incredibly terrible, horrific ripple effects in our communities. People can't afford to keep up their homes and you see urban blight. People act like they don't know that these cost shifts, these things are sucking out the economic viability of our communities. This is what a glaring example, and to me, this is the biggest case

Starting point is 01:22:21 of regulatory malpractice I have ever seen it. I cannot call it anything of regulatory malpractice I have ever seen it. I cannot call it anything but regulatory malpractice. You take an oath. So before- Serve. So before I go to my panel, Minyang, hold on, before I go to my panel,

Starting point is 01:22:39 I want to people show this here, before you make that point, let me go to my panel. So this is from the prisonphonejustice.org. I need y'all to understand when, when Myung is talking about kickbacks, I need y'all to understand that this is the money. So this is a chart here. This is a, this is from,

Starting point is 01:22:58 this is, this is welcome to the prison phone justice website maintained by the Human Rights Defense Center. Y'all watch this here Okay, when I scroll down here, so federal Bureau prisons, no kickbacks cost of a 15-minute call is three dollars and seventy-five cents Alabama kick that this is kickbacks paid by families Alabama three point nine million Alaska one point one million Arizona eight point two million Arkansas two point five million Paid by families. Alabama, 3.9 million. Alaska, 1.1 million. Arizona, 8.2 million. Arkansas, 2.5 million. California and Colorado, no kickbacks. Connecticut, 5 million. Look at that. Connecticut cost of a 15-minute call, $4.87. Florida, 5.1. Georgia, 8 million. Hawaii, 200,000. Idaho, 849,000. No kickbacks in Illinois. Indiana, 1.6 million. million, Hawaii 200,000, Idaho 849,000, no kickbacks in Illinois,

Starting point is 01:23:47 Indiana 1.6 million, Iowa 677,000, Louisiana 3 million, Maine 367,000, Massachusetts 2.3, Michigan 9 million dollars, Mississippi 42,000, Minnesota 625,000, Missouri, Montana, look at Nevada, $5 million. North Carolina, $7.6 million. Oregon, 3 million. Tennessee, 4 million. Texas, 6.76 million. Utah, a million. Vermont, Virginia, 3.7 million. Washington state, 3.8 million.

Starting point is 01:24:24 Those numbers are astounding, Mignon. And Roland, let me just say this, and I don't mean this wholeheartedly. If those kickbacks slash side commissions were going to the benefit, 100% of the benefit of those incarcerated, I might be a little softer, but we need to follow the money.

Starting point is 01:24:47 And there's examples after examples of a motorcycle here, something else there that does not benefit those who are incarcerated. So look, we've got a broken system that the last administration attempted to finally fix. Now it took the FCC more than a decade to even move and act. Keep that in mind. The FCC was not fast moving under any administration

Starting point is 01:25:20 to do this. What we finally did, it took a number of years, a number of tries, a number of court decisions that did not work in our favor, but we were not going to stop. And even when I left the FCC, I was not going to stop. Now I am upset as you can tell right now, but I am not going to stop. This is a wrongheaded decision by my former colleague, and we are going to This is a wrongheaded decision by my former colleague.

Starting point is 01:25:50 And we are going to be out there voicing our opinions and supporting the direction in which this agency should have continued. And hopefully he will get the message and will rescind his cause on justice for those least likely to be able to speak and to stay connected with their families. No, I'm going to you first. Check this out. I'm going back to my iPad. Henry, this is crazy. This is a story. It talks about New Jersey. It says 30 minute phone call costs $1.20. A video call costs $9.95.

Starting point is 01:26:27 And in New Jersey, they even charge them $0.35 per page to send an email. Nola, that's crazy. It's insane. And, you know, this administration is notorious for punishing poor people, you know, people that aren't very, very wealthy. As this Epstein stuff keeps rolling out, keeps rolling out, and this article tonight and the Wall Street Journal, if this, you know, bears out this kind of communication that Trump was having between Epstein, bragging about having everything, and you know, what do you do in life when you have absolutely everything. These people live in a world that has nothing to do with reality in real life and honestly I'm at the point where I believe that

Starting point is 01:27:14 this is kind of like their entertainment that punishing people that are impoverished, punishing people that that need a little extra help you know that seems to be their form of entertainment, just like lynchings, when people would gather with their families and they would stand around the tree, take photos, take mementos. It really does feel like that. And you are charging people in prison

Starting point is 01:27:39 who are already being punished, and then you're not only punishing them, you're also punishing their families even further. So this kind of like rule by punishment, this is the part of it that I dislike the most. The most vulnerable are being the most harmed, which of course we all knew, and yes, we all try to tell folks, but here we are.

Starting point is 01:28:01 And the thing for me is what can be done? You know, we're seeing Republicans already trying to play tricks with voting in 2026. What happens if that stands? What recourse do we have then? I'm curious about, if you can hear me, about Chevron. I'm not an attorney. So that Chevron decision that the bearer some mentioned,

Starting point is 01:28:33 how can the FCC do this under that doctrine that was overturned? Tell me how can the agency make the decision to pause like it just did unilaterally. I don't understand it. Do the rules apply differently? You can answer that better than me. It's it's beyond reciting and that's the part of it. Commissioner Clyburn. Recy. I'm curious.

Starting point is 01:29:07 Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah, go ahead. I'm curious. We have a huge problem in this country with recidivism and obviously depriving people of outside contact during their service, during their prison term, I would assume increases they're likely to recidivate. Do you have any information on that aspect, and how, ultimately, by penalizing families

Starting point is 01:29:33 who have to pay for these calls and penalizing inmates, we're actually increasing the likelihood of people to return to prison? DR. TAMARA KEITH, President, National Center for Public Health and Human Services, New York National Center for Public Health and Human Services, New York, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA give you an example I was up in Newark a few years ago, right and I

Starting point is 01:29:50 Was going to speak with a number of those incarcerated About what and where they are and how much this meant to them to be in touch one person did not Did not want to speak with me because some privileges were denied that day. But I got a chance to say one or two things to him. And this is what he said, and this was confirmed by those who were responsible for guarding them. They can tell a difference when there is family contact. Not only can they tell a difference

Starting point is 01:30:26 and they see a difference in their behavior inside, it's the children and others on the outside who have that reinforcement that I love you that they cannot afford and will not be able to afford to do with this pause that might be another two years if the courts are not more friendly. And so yes, the answer is yes. Anyone in a facility will tell you when they, when those incarcerated are in touch with their loved ones, they can tell the difference. That is

Starting point is 01:30:59 hands down. That is not the issue here. The issue here is greed. The issue is insensitivity. The issue is not caring about those on the other side of the economic and political aisle. It is a shame. And again, people like me are not going to stop until we get justice. Greg? Thank you, Roland. And thank you, Assistant Commissioner. Mr. Clyburn, you said earlier we should follow the money. And we know that Securus, the prison phone communications company, along with GTL controls more than 70% of the market for prison calls. And that's a company owned now by the owner of Detroit Pistons, Tom Gores,

Starting point is 01:31:48 whose wife contributed money to RFK Jr. to his campaign when he was running for president. My question has to do with how far you think this goes in terms of a broader ideological project. I say that because your former colleague, and I use that word very loosely, Brendan Carr, of course, wrote chapter 28 of this document, Project 2025, on the Federal Communications Commission and telegraphed that he is exactly the type of ideologue that we expect would work with Russell Voate to destroy the federal government,

Starting point is 01:32:26 to unify power in the executive, and to unleash the very type of unbridled capitalism that we see at play now. Do you think he was playing in y'all's faces? And do you think that this, along with enriching folks like Gores and others, has been the strategy all along? And at this point, what do you think we should and can do to combat

Starting point is 01:32:48 what seems to be a long range ideological plan? I will say that the people I know that I served with in the past are very transparent. No surprises here. Disappointment, yes, but no surprises. Look, we talked about following the money. We talked about following the influencers. That is the issue here. There are too many people who are quiet because they look at whatever infraction that was committed or whatever happened to land that person behind bars and not the rest of it. And so the insensitivity on that

Starting point is 01:33:31 and the greed on the other side and the influence, yes, by a very concentrated, as you mentioned, industry that not only is exploitive, but it doesn't allow for competition. There are a couple of people who look like us who have been trying to offer different alternatives at different price points. Guess what?

Starting point is 01:33:53 They've had a heck of a time breaking in. Why? Because of these exclusive arrangements. So exclusivity, honestly, profit sharing on the backs of those who can't afford it the most. And of course the influence of the people who are incarcerated, the majority of the people who are in the disability , honestly, profit sharing on the backs of those who can't afford

Starting point is 01:34:18 it the most and of course the influence that most people who are related to and who are incarcerated don't have. Permitted and allowed and enabled this uncomfortable storm to almost 30 years. So again, what we can do is go state by state, county by county, because those jurisdictions can make changes. And so while we might have a hiccup or a pause here, that does not stop other states who have not reformed to do so. And we should press on them where we live

Starting point is 01:34:43 to make sure that their race are just and reasonable and where they are not. We should be advocates close to home, pushing for those sheriffs and others to be reasonable, to be just and to be compassionate. All right then. Many on Clyburn. We appreciate it. Can you keep up the fight? Thank you. Good to see you. All right then. Many on Clyburn, we appreciate it. Can you keep up the fight? Thank you. Good to see you. All right, folks.

Starting point is 01:35:09 Absolutely. We'll be right back on Roller Barton Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. On the other side of change. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News.

Starting point is 01:35:36 It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people.

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Starting point is 01:38:36 Hello. Hello, I'm Marissa Mitchell, a news anchor at Fox 5BC. Hey, what's up? It's Jami Roman, and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Well now, Donald Trump has been doing all he can to tamp down all of this talk about Jeffrey Epstein. Guess what y'all Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal is really about to fan the flames.

Starting point is 01:39:15 Check this out. This is what's on their homepage right now. Exclusive. Jeffrey Epstein's friends sent him body letters for a 50th birthday album. One was from Donald Trump. The leather bound book was compiled by Jelaine Maxwell. The president says the letter is a fake thing. Now we see according to the Wall Street Journal story, it says that it was a hand-drawn letter of a naked woman and Trump was caught, you know, he was really upset when they published this and so, and then his name is underneath and he's just really upset and he threatened to even sue them.

Starting point is 01:39:59 Hmm, ain't that something. So let me go ahead right here. This is what they say. It says, the letter bears Trump's name, which was reviewed by the journal is bawdy like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arts denotes the woman's breasts and the future president's signature is a squiggly dot on below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.

Starting point is 01:40:27 The letter concludes, happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret. In an interview with the journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. This is not me. This is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall Street Journal story. I never wrote a picture in my life. I don't draw pictures of women.

Starting point is 01:40:44 It's not my language. It's not my language is not my words. He told the journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit. If it publishes an article, I'm going to sue the Wall Street Journal. Just like I sue everyone else he said. Well, damn Reece. Is that why his ankles are so swollen? Ted, he I don't know what the hell going on. He tried to say some summon or another I ain't never heard of. You know, the skeletons is spilling out of the closet.

Starting point is 01:41:14 This is Republican or Republican mag of crime because Wall Street Journal is definitely not the kind of place that you would tend to see these kinds of attacks on Donald Trump. But Donald Trump has long been a degenerate. He has been a sexual—I won't say deviant. I ain't trying to get sued. But he has expressed behavior and committed—I mean, and been convicted of behavior related to his sexual activities, consensual or not.

Starting point is 01:41:43 And so, I don't know that this even necessarily moves the needle with the MAGA crowd because they like the fact that they have a person in Donald Trump or in Pete Hegson or in others who have blatant disregard for women, for sexual norms, consent, and who have filthy and nothing but adoration for rich and powerful men. And so this is actually on brand for Donald Trump.

Starting point is 01:42:12 I don't even know why he's denying Donald Big Ankle's Trump is so mad. Leave Ankle's alone. That looks painful. That looks painful. Leave that man alone. Matter of fact, if we go, they kept talking about, they kept talking about Biden and Trump, who's in better shape. I mean, I take Joe, these Joe Biden's ankles on top, them Trump's ankles on the bottom.

Starting point is 01:42:54 And he can touch the ground. And he can touch the ground. Go right ahead. Listen. Go ahead. This, you know, this kind of, this rehab that Christian nationalists tried to do for Donald Trump, and he's very aware of who his constituents are, even though he's basically cussing them out right now, calling them stupid and foolish, he's very well aware of who his

Starting point is 01:43:19 constituency is, right? And he understands that this of all things, that his base is chomping at the bit around this issue. So it's not like he necessarily cares about being perceived as a ladies' man. I mean, he came up in a time where that was legitimized, and that's who you wanted to be portrayed as, right? But now he understands, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, this is what's going to crack the cult? This is going to put the crack in the cult? So he's trying to do everything that he can to disassociate, you know, like he

Starting point is 01:43:57 does. I mean, he could be palling around with somebody for years and talking about, I don't know that person. Sorry to that man, I don't know you. He's famous for doing that, but he can't do that here because he made campaign promises, many of which he has not kept. But this is the one thing that MAGA seems to be really, really interested in. And so he's gonna do everything in his power

Starting point is 01:44:21 because the one thing he also knows is that 26 is coming up and things haven't necessarily gone to plan. So this is the one issue that he's going to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to backpedal his way out of. But this doesn't seem to be going away like the rest of the stuff, you know, like with his little ear and the ketchup or blood, whatever that was supposed to be like the other stuff that just disappears and go away. This does not seem to be disappearing. Well, it's not going away, Greg, because Mago is the

Starting point is 01:44:50 one that fanned the flames. Look at this here. Look at Charlie Crick. This is not how Trump talks at all. I don't believe it. Nah, that's y'all freaky deaky, big swollen ankles, food. We know he was palling around with Jeffrey Epstein, but see, they can't handle it. See, they kept talking about Bill Clinton, everybody, no, it's your boy. That's your boy. That's not mine. I don't write that.

Starting point is 01:45:17 I don't draw it. Hey, guess what, Greg? Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch. They basically said, dawg, we got the goods, go ahead and try to sue us. Go ahead and try to sue us. And guess what? Trump can threaten all they great,

Starting point is 01:45:31 he don't want that deposition. No, no. And you know, it really is an intriguing moment for all kinds of reasons as we are talking here. I don't know what the state of Donald Trump's health is. I don't know what his ankles look like or his wrists. I will, however, take as an argument of faith that every word that comes out of his mouth is a bold-faced lie.

Starting point is 01:45:57 So I don't know what his health status is. Plus, Peter Thiel and Musk and them have an insurance policy in the Manchurian candidate Junior Barstee Vance. The question is, can they advance their agenda without their signing pen, Donald Trump? Trump is the reason that these white nationals who have been engaged in a 60-year project to capture the federal government and beat us back after all those years of black liberation struggle, Trump is their useful idiot.

Starting point is 01:46:25 They're convenient too. The question is, can they continue the agenda? As you say, all this stuff is distraction. Russell Voate is running the playbook. Recy laid it out a minute ago. That tracker, that Project 2025 tracker, they are moving full steam ahead. All this is distraction.

Starting point is 01:46:42 Now, if Trump dissolves over this, and not because everybody will stop backing him, because, again, and I think I grew up with Mike Herriot, who was writing on his website, Contraband Camp Today, you know, if you think white people simply going to abandon Trump because he lied, then you don't understand white people. They know he's a liar. Now there's that, but here's the question. If there are enough in that handful in the MAGA formation, the ones who thought that Hillary Clinton was feasting on babies on Connecticut Avenue at the pizza shop next

Starting point is 01:47:13 to Politics and Prose, if there are enough of them to stay at home during the midterms, see, that's what Steve Bannon's afraid of. He's saying we could lose 40 seats in the federal legislature, we could lose the election in 2028. He's absolutely right. You don't need everybody. You just need a few. But we know, and you've talked about this over this last week, Trump has been calling these quote unquote influencers and

Starting point is 01:47:37 saying to them, y'all need to chill. And they haven't responded yet. Alex Jones, of course, broadcasting from his car while he prays that this Sandy Hook thing will go away. Little Face, Charlie Kirk and all them. Candace Owens, who's basically looking for anybody she can shake down for $3. They haven't fallen in line yet. The real question we have finally in all of this is whether or not this will be enough in an idiocracy like the United States of America that pays no attention to policy and really just does engage in spectacle to undermine their signing pen there too. And if it is, this might be the opening we need to take advantage of this because I don't

Starting point is 01:48:20 trust corporate news, entertainment media at all. There's a lot of muggle war, muggle war. No, these white people are in lockstep. The only question is you're going to shave off enough of the crazies for us to have a little bit of an opening to bust their ass politically in the midterms. That's what we need to be focused on. Absolutely.

Starting point is 01:48:37 Now, y'all, Greg mentioned Trump's hands. They won't explain this. I don't know what the hell that is. I mean, he got jacked up hands, his ankles are swollen. They try to come out into the wall. He's been treated, he's in perfect health. Everything is great. Yeah, them big ass ankles ain't perfect health. I don't know what you talking about.

Starting point is 01:49:03 But, yeah, this is going to be real interesting. All y'all going to hell. I'm just saying no, no. If that's where they're not, I'll be very happy to go. Yeah. If hell is where they're not, that's just fine. I said, if hell is where they're not, then I'll be very happy to go. If hell is where they're not, then that's just fine. I said, if hell is where they're not, then that's just fine. As Elijah Muhammad say, we worried about hell after death.

Starting point is 01:49:33 The hell is on earth. We already in hell. We ain't got to go nowhere. You ain't lying. Hey, look. I can't wait. What happened to young Dan Cameron? They threw their own Negroes away.

Starting point is 01:49:47 I can't. Oh yeah, he can't raise no money. He can't raise no money. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, he can't raise. He can't raise no money. He can't raise. Look, they done told him, we don't want your black ass

Starting point is 01:50:00 gone, gone. Move along, move along, move along. So yeah, move along, move along, move along. So yeah, move along. So I just, listen, I, you know, it is what it is. I just talked about arrows, excuse me, them fools in Arkansas, critical race theory. On Wednesday, a federal appeals court handed Arkansas the green light to enforce its classroom ban

Starting point is 01:50:20 on teachings about systemic racism and inequality. Y'all just the same state when they had the Little Rock Nine. The 8th Circuit ruled that students and families can't force schools to teach if the state wants silence. Declaring curriculum is up to politicians, not the courts. This decision overturns the law courts move that blocked the ban. Arkansas' attorney general is already touting it as a win for voters. But student advocates warn this ruling opens the door to more government

Starting point is 01:50:48 censorship in classrooms shutting down honest conversations about race and history. You know, it's such a trip that Arkansas wants to spend all of his time talking about stuff like this here. I saw this tweet, hold on, I think it's from Jamel Hill, she was responding to that fool Sarah Huckabee because Sarah was just so just so excited about by this ruling. Let's see if I can find it. She was like mmm she's like girlfriend why you getting all excited when you look at the illiteracy rates in Arkansas and that's the one that just cracks me up the most. Lord have mercy, they killed me. Like y'all hollering about systemic racism,

Starting point is 01:51:37 critical race theory, when literally you are at the bottom of education stats in America. Y'all got some other stuff y'all might want to be focused on. bottom of education stats in America. Y'all got some other stuff y'all might wanna be focused on. You know, what's always been interesting to me about this argument, you know, I went to UCLA for undergrad, one of the homes of critical race theory.

Starting point is 01:51:57 And critical race theory for legal education, for higher education, education is definitely at the college level. And I'm very curious what these folks are actually calling critical race theory. Is it anything about black people? Is it anything about black history? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:52:18 Critical race theory? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Christopher Rufo literally said that. He literally said it in a tweet. Their strategy was that if anything that comes up that's black, that's brown or whatever, they want to associate it with critical race theory. And that's why they attacked critical race theory in 2022,

Starting point is 01:52:40 woke in 2023, DEI 2024. So their whole deal is all of it is critical race theory. You're trying to explain that, oh, this is a legal theory. They don't care. Basically their whole deal is now that's them Negroes. Now they can't use the N word, they can't go there, but they're like all that critical race theory, that's it.

Starting point is 01:53:03 Oh, them contracts for critical race theory. End up up, nope, nope. Oh, them contracts for critical rights theory. End up up. No, no. Oh, fellowships, critical rights theory. Hold up. Internships, critical rights theory. So the strategy is, that's it. That's all they want to do.

Starting point is 01:53:16 They want to scare white people. Right. So here's my rejoinder. Right. Have we not caught on yet? Do we not have a counter to this? Because you just laid out the different, you counter to this? Because you just laid out the different, you just laid out a timeline, you know, CRT, DEI.

Starting point is 01:53:32 But that is the counter, but white folks don't want to deal with it. White media doesn't want to deal with this. That's my whole book, White Fear. Okay, I literally had whole book white fear. Okay. I literally had a black anchor on national television hit me and say, Roland, I would love to have you on my show, but my white producers don't like your title. And my response was, you know, I talk about those same white producers in the book. This is the whole point. I have been personally emailing a couple of white white hosts on mainstream television. They don't want to touch it. No, they don't want to call a thing a thing. They don't want to say it's all designed to hype up white people. It's no it's it's it's other things. It's it's other it's other. That's what it is.

Starting point is 01:54:25 So the reason it hasn't been properly addressed is because white media does not want to talk about it because it's also them. Yeah, that's why it's abundantly clear. Reese's abundantly clear. They don't want wanna deal with it. This is about whiteness and they don't even wanna use the word white. Well, here's the thing.

Starting point is 01:54:52 Okay, Arkansas, y'all won. Now what's the price? Broke it. Y'all got child labor that put up in there. Y'all still gonna lose all kinds of Medicaid expansion and all kind of people gonna be kicked off with food stamps and snap, after school programs gonna be cut, all kind of infrastructure gonna be cut. So, so what show white people don't have to learn about

Starting point is 01:55:14 black people prize? How is your life better? They rounded up immigrants, trans people is bad, DI is dead, and you still broken, you still white, and you still mad. Congratulations. Greg. Yeah, you know, okay, we just passed the anniversary of the Scopes Monkey Trial.

Starting point is 01:55:40 Y'all had to go see it here, to win, to play, you know, Williams, Jennings, Brian, Jennings, Brian versus Clarence Darrow in the courtroom all over whether you should teach creationism or evolution in schools in Tennessee. These are theocrats. They are theologians. They are hardcore Christian, I won't call them Christian. They're hardcore religious extremists.

Starting point is 01:56:04 Slow-eyed Sarah Huckabee, whose fascist, crystal fascist father was visiting Bibi Netanyahu's trial in Israel yesterday. He says slow-eyed. They have, yeah, slow-eyed, you know, the eye is kind of slow, it's S-O-L, S-L-O-E, kind of, you know, looking another way. Okay, it's good.

Starting point is 01:56:24 So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns.

Starting point is 01:56:42 And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace,

Starting point is 01:57:01 affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down.

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Starting point is 01:58:57 But some people only see who I am on paper. The paper ceiling, the limitations from degree screens to stereotypes that are holding back over 70 million stars. Workers skilled through alternative routes, rather than a bachelor's degree. It's time for skills to speak for themselves. Find resources for breaking through barriers at tearthepaperceiling.org. Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad council. Hukla San, as we call her, she is in Arkansas. These politically and intellectually inbred fools could have had a literal rocket scientist,

Starting point is 01:59:32 Christopher Jones, as the governor. Like Hukla San, because they are religious inbred ideologues. They believe that God made heaven and earth in seven literal days. They believe that they're supporting Israel because they're waiting for the Armageddon to come, followed by the rapture. And they believe that ish. So my point is this. Critical race theory, which as you said, Roland, you and Noah were saying, they can't spell, not even given three letters, C-R-T, which is basically saying the N-word. Before that it was diversity and D-E-I. It all, which is basically saying the N word. Before

Starting point is 02:00:05 that it was diverse D and D, it all means the same thing, the N word. They want to, and again, following the money, in this BS bill they passed, they just got billions of dollars so they could take their children away from being next to your children and teach them that God made the world in seven days, or six days really, and rested on the seventh to be critical about. And all the other foolishness, I'm sorry if anybody's offended, deal with it, because you're dealing with ideologues and white supremacists who are going to pursue their agenda. Now the solution to this is what we're doing right now.

Starting point is 02:00:41 It's Black Star Network. It's moving forward with self-determining platforms that are very clear, pour clean glasses of water, and have us in real dialogue that will allow us to act collectively. This as we hear in news today is reported in a variety that CBS is shutting down Stephen Colbert's show in May, and now they shaky worried about Jon Stewart after they wouldn't give Roy Wood the job at Comedy Central. Why? Follow the money.

Starting point is 02:01:11 Sky Dance Media is slated to acquire Paramount, and the guy David Ellison, who leads Sky Dance, is infatuated, it appears, with Donald Trump. These ideologues have megaphones, and they continue to curate the electorate they need by propagandizing them. And in Arkansas, it's inbred Christian nationalists. Our solution is to have our own platforms where we continue to have work like this and roll over these people like the sea. Stop trying to talk with them because they are worried about something completely

Starting point is 02:01:46 different than what you worry about. And see, here's the thing. If you understand the state of mind, I saw this clip. This is Bill Maher talking to John Leguizamo. This right here says all you need to understand how even so-called, so-called liberal white people like Bill Maher, look, just listen to this bullshit. Say, is he a racist or not? He's an 80-year-old, or soon to be a year away from 80-year-old guy

Starting point is 02:02:18 whose father was a virulent racist. Oh, yeah. And he marched with the KKK. His father was arrested for marching. His father was definitely a racist. And his grandfather was a pimp? Like of the times, like the people are a product of their times. He is a product of his time. Some of us overcome our times. Exactly. That is absolutely true. That is true and fair to say. But he's not on the level of racism.

Starting point is 02:02:41 No, that's not what Stephen Miller is. No, nobody's at the level of Stephen Miller's racism, and who's the architect of all this mass deportation. Grew up here in Santa Monica with Latinos, and I guess they bullied him, and he's got a chip on his shoulder over that. See, here's why I crack up with, oh, he's a product of his times. I'm sorry, there are no non-racists when Trump was born?

Starting point is 02:03:09 I mean, I love it when they say the same thing about the period of slavery in the country. I mean, I'm sorry, do anybody remember who this guy is? I mean, I don't know, you know, maybe, but I'm just kind of saying, you know, this guy right here, um, name is John Brown. Um, I, I guess, I guess he wasn't a product of his time. Uh, I guess Greg, there were no white abolitionists. I guess there were no, uh, members of churches who said this thing is wrong. I guess there were no white people

Starting point is 02:03:51 who met in the office of William Trotter's The Guardian in Boston when they created the Niagara Movement, which actually led to the creation of the NAACP. I guess those white people were not living in the same time as Trump's dad. So to Bill Maher, no, no, no, we can excuse the racism because, you know, he's a man of his time. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:04:18 Well, Bill Maher has been a soft white nationalist. It's funny, isn't it, Roman? It's funny, isn't it, y'all, how when these folk—and I give Donald Trump this, absolutely. He has an eye for the type of visual you need to rally your troops. The people he has curated around him absolutely came from central casting, if you're talking about a hillbilly horde. As Bill Maher ages, he looks more and more like his politics. He should be sitting somewhere on a couch, on a veranda in Miami Beach with unvarnished racism coming out of his mouth.

Starting point is 02:04:58 Cause he's a soft white necklace. And he's always been, his sunglasses are getting a little darker. At some points the N word will be used a lot more freely. And John Leguizamo, who has had politics that have been decent at some point, but at other points, you know, his kind of white adjacent Latinx identity has allowed him access into the periphery of some things. It's quite to be expected that they would dance around the issue, but ain't nobody gonna deal

Starting point is 02:05:25 with what you're dealing with wrong, which is why you had to build your own network. John Brown was in Kansas. In Arkansas, they had something called arsenic. What was that? That was Arkansas SNCC, which had white folk in it. They fly in the face of the very type of solidarity politics that prevailed in the civil rights movement that said,

Starting point is 02:05:46 we're gonna put working class interests together that led to the rise of the rainbow coalition, whether you wanna call it with Fred Hampton in Chicago or Jesse Jackson and push in the wake of operation breadbasket, as you have walked us through countless times. But ultimately it all comes down to this. Bill Maher still has a show on HBO

Starting point is 02:06:05 with increasingly fewer viewers. You get rid of Colbert, you might get rid of Jon Stewart, but guess what? More people right now are watching Gills Arena, watching basketball talking shows. Stephen A. Smith then signed another $11 trillion contract with Sirius while he's vomiting all over the airwaves.

Starting point is 02:06:27 And in all of that noise, you got a few people punching. You got you punching Black Star Network. You got what Tiffany Cross and them are doing with their podcast. What is it? Native Land Pod. You got people trying to put together tours like what they did with this kind of going around the country, this listening tour, this for the people power tour. And we're this close to linking up. But you know what the metronome has been in all of this? It's been the

Starting point is 02:06:58 Black Star Network. This is the one that comes on day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year at this point. And we after month, year after year at this point. And we have to punch through this noise at this point, because if we don't punch through this noise, people will be watching basketball podcasts and YouTube while these people are stealing everything off your body and leaving you butt-necked in the street scratching your head talking about what happened next. But the ideologues are clear. We have to be clear.

Starting point is 02:07:23 We just got to continue to remain focused. I love this here. This is this cracks me up. No, no, you have to go. You can comment on this and then go ahead and bounce. You know, oh, he was a man of his time. Fred Trump, Donald Trump's dad was born in 1905. This white guy I'm about to show right now, he was born in 1911. I'm sorry, his name is Hubert Humphrey. Born same time, no one had to go, I appreciate that. Born around the same time, but civil rights believer,

Starting point is 02:08:04 significant advocate. So I love this, he was a product of his time. As if there were no white folks then who were not violent, racist, and who against Tevil Mara, all white people marched for the Klan, yay! Well, this is a thing where people like to do, where they like to normalize and sanitize

Starting point is 02:08:27 white nationalism and racism. First of all, it's fuck Bill Maher. He ain't shit. So of course, he's going to side with Donald Trump because on any given day, he's now just like them. So I don't do this thing with white people who try to gaslight you about racism and try to act like they don't know what it is when they know damn well what it is. You just don't give a damn. But instead of saying I don't give a damn about racism, you got to sit up there and

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