#RolandMartinUnfiltered - She's speaking: Harris/Pence debate recap; Plot to kidnap MI Gov; Breonna Taylor investigative files

Episode Date: October 9, 2020

10.8.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: She's speaking: Harris/Pence debate recap; White domestic terrorist plot to kidnap MI Gov foiled; Breonna Taylor investigative files released; Pro-Trump Twitter army strategically throttling Biden ads; Princeton University to rename a building that was named for Woodrow Wilson; We honor the life and legacy of Johnny NashSupport #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Whether you’re a music enthusiast or an ultra-base lover. CEEK’s newly released headphones hear sound above, below and from multiple directions unlike traditional headphones where users only hear sound from left and right speakers. Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Thank you. Thank you. Today is Thursday, October 8th, 2020. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered. We'll break down last night's vice presidential debate between Kamala Harris, Senator Kamala Harris, and Mike Pence. Oh, we've got some highlights for you. White domestic terrorist arrested for the plot to kidnap and murder the governor of Michigan, Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

And what does the Donald Trump campaign do? They blast her. The police investigated the file into the Breonna Taylor shooting has been released. Also, Donald Trump's Twitter army is strategically canceling anti-Trump ads. We're going to show you some of those ads. Folks, it is time to bring the funk of Roland it Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine And when it breaks, he's right on time And it's rolling, best belief he's knowing

Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling, yeah It's Uncle Roro, y'all. It's rolling, Martin, yeah. Rolling with rolling now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best, you know he's rolling, Martin. The one and only debate between Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris took place last night in Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah.

The University of Utah sparked a certainly fluke between both sides on the stage. A range of issues, including the coronavirus pandemic, climate change, the issue of race as well. Here is a roundup. And they knew what was happening and they didn't tell you. Can you imagine if you knew on January 28th as opposed to March 13th, what they knew, what you might've done to prepare? They knew and they covered it up.

The president said it was a hoax. They minimized the seriousness of it. The president said you're on one side of his ledger if you wear a mask, you're on the other side of his ledger if you don't. And in spite of all of that, today, they still don't have a plan. They still don't have a plan. Well, Joe Biden does. And quite frankly, when I look at their plan that talks about advancing testing, creating new PPE, developing a vaccine, it looks a little bit like plagiarism, which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about. The American people deserve to know. I did not create the rules for tonight. Joe Biden. Your campaigns agreed to the rules for tonight's debate with the Commission on President Debates.

I'm here to enforce them, which involves moving from one topic to another, giving roughly equal time to both of you, which is what I'm trying very hard to do. Go right ahead. I mean, we saw enough of it in last week's debate, but I think this is supposed to be a debate based on fact and truth. And the truth and the fact is, Joe Biden has been very clear. He will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000 a year. He said he's going to repeal the Trump tax cuts. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

I'm speaking. With regard to the Supreme Court of the United States, let me say President Trump and I could not be more enthusiastic about the opportunity to see Judge Amy Coney Barrett become Justice Amy Coney Barrett. We hope she gets a fair hearing. And we particularly hope that we don't see the kind of attacks on her Christian faith that we saw before. Joe Biden and I are both people of faith. And it's insulting to suggest that we would knock anyone for their faith. There's the issue of choice. And I will always fight for a woman's right to make a decision about her own body. It should be her decision and not that of Donald Trump and the vice president, Michael Pence. Let's tell you this this this presumption that you hear consistently from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that that America is systemically

racist and that as Joe Biden said that he believes that law enforcement has an implicit bias against minorities is is a great insult to the men and women who serve in law enforcement. I will not sit here and be lectured by the vice president on what it means to enforce the laws of our country. I am the only one on this stage who has personally prosecuted everything from child sexual assault to homicide. I'm the only one on this stage who has prosecuted the big banks for taking advantage of America's homeowners. I'm the only one on this stage who prosecuted for-profit colleges

for taking advantage of our veterans. And the reality of this is that we are talking about an election in 27 days where last week the president of the United States took a debate stage in front of 70 million Americans and refused to condemn white supremacists. All right, let's talk about it. Eric Savage-Wilson hosts Savage Politics Podcast. I'm DeGray Carr, chair of the Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University. Recy Colbert, Black Women Views. Recy, start with you.

I take it you were pleased with how your candidate did last night? Absolutely. She was stellar, superb, brilliant, historic, magnificent, intelligent, commanding. I could go on and on and on. Obviously, she just did such a spectacular job. She obviously had a very high bar that was set for her. And by every even objective measure, whether you look at the polling or you look at the fundraising numbers, she knocked it out of the park. And her opponent sat there with pink eye and a fly on his head, barely being able to breathe after a couple of words at a time, and lied, deflected, and pivoted the entire time. But what Kamala Harris did,

Senator Kamala Harris did, was she did the number one thing she set out to do. Number one, she was there to amplify and boost Joe Biden. And number two, she was there to eviscerate Donald Trump and prosecute the case against the Trump and Pence administration, which has been a complete failure. She was the only person who had a grasp on reality, not the alternate reality that Pence and Donald Trump like to portray. And she was very strong in terms of explaining that Moody's determined that the Biden-Harris administration would have 7 million more jobs, that they would not raise taxes on anybody making less than $400,000 a year, that they believe climate change is an

existential threat, and that they will do something about it. They will not allow Putin to put Russian bounties on troops' heads, that they will do the opposite of what Trump and Pence have done, which is appoint monolithically white, young, male, unqualified judges. And it goes on, and especially I thought that she was incredibly strong on Breonna Taylor, which we're going to talk about later, and being unequivocal that not only did Breonna Taylor not receive the justice that she deserved, but that they're going to do something to prevent these kinds of things that continues to happen. The implicit bias, the systemic racism in our criminal justice system, they're going to do something about it.

Mike Pence has no plan. Donald Trump has no plan. They've been a disaster. And it was loud and clear that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden do, and more importantly, that Kamala Harris is ready to step in on day one as president, if need be, at whatever point that might need to be the situation. Erica. Absolutely. I totally agree with my sister, Recy. She laid it might need to be the situation. Erica. Absolutely. I totally agree with my sister, Recy. She laid it out plainly for the audience. And this was not a debate really to be had. This was about informing the American people what they can expect from a Biden-Harris administration.

And particularly since we're in a very triggering environment, where we have a person, the son of a Klansman, who is the executive leader at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, that is going about the business of the day, shooting infomercials, talking about how great he feels because he's hocked up on steroids, that we still have over 211,000 people that are dead because of COVID-19. And there is still, as Recy has already shared, there's still not a plan in place to combat COVID. When you think about the EPA regulations that have been rolled back and the air pollution, the different people that have been placed in administrative positions that really are doing the very opposite of protecting the American people. So I think what people saw was confidence. People saw a strong leader under the incredible pressures that our country is in.

And I think what people saw, particularly for unregistered voters, because I just don't believe that they're undecided voters, that they actually have an administration quality leaders to register to vote for. I think we had, of course, post-debate analysis last night, Greg, with a group of black women. And I said this here, that last night, the job of Senator Kamala Harris was to do no harm. And that is after the first debate, you saw exactly what happened, where the polling numbers went up for Joe Biden because of how disastrous Donald Trump was. Of course, Mike Pence was going to be how he normally is, very calm, totally different demeanor and tone than Donald Trump.

Doesn't mean you're not going to lie, but again, you come off differently. I do believe, Greg, that there were several moments last night where Senator Harris could have been a lot tougher on Mike Pence and a lot more precise in going after them, especially when he criticized her when he said she had not lifted a finger on the First Step Act. I thought that was a moment where, and I've been saying this here, I think Democrats, let me be real clear, Democrats have been making a grave mistake

by not talking about the role that they play in the First Step Act. Okay? If it wasn't for what her, Senator Cory Booker, Senator Dick Durbin, any Republican Chuck Grassley in the Senate, the bill would not have been improved. That's I was sitting there going, please say I'm tired of y'all taking credit for the work of Democrats. But but she didn't. And he literally said, you didn't lift a finger. Then, Greg, I also when he said when he criticized over the the Tim Scott bill and then I was just hoping, I was like waiting for her to say, I'm sorry, I wanted to debate in the Senate Judiciary, but where were you on the anti-lynching bill? See, because when he saw what he did, Greg, he went to her record because he was trying to talk to black men. When he criticized her record, it was all about black men. And then,

and she didn't respond to it in terms of her attack on her record. That was a moment where I was like, yo, hit him back, hit him back. But I think they said, don't be angry, smile, do no harm. Your thoughts? I agree. In fact, everything that has been said so far, I think, is of a seamless whole. Recy laid out the substantive case for Senator Harris's excellent performance last night. And Erica has not only enhanced that case, but extended it in terms of what the objective was. And you as well. I mean, her number one objective is do no harm. You know, as a person who laughs a lot and who smiles a lot, I actually felt bad for Senator Harris last night, because clearly the straitjacket that the Democratic Party

put her in, by the way, Democratic Party, a losing straitjacket of civility, I understand. She's under terrible constraints as a woman, as a black woman, and then to have the Democratic Party that has never learned how to fight, the white nationalist party, that seems to think they're engaged in a boxing match that they can win on points, as opposed to coming into the ring with people who have slabs and nunchucks and bare-knuckled brass knuckles, and then they want to come and box and act like there's some kind of referee that's going to give them an award on points. By the way, Susan Page, great job. Go sit next to Chris Wallace, particularly you coming out of the U.S. today. Anybody who's been reading your byline for years knows that you own 10 pence.

But at any rate, you know, I felt bad a little bit for Senator Harris because it took until that turning point in the clip that you played where she said, hold on, I will not be lectured. At that point, I said, oh, maybe we're getting ready to see Kamala Harris. Because clearly, what Biden and them have told you to do is go there, and then her natural demeanor is to kind of smile. Smiling Mike Pence, who sat there,

and again, I'll tell you, I love him, because smiling Mike Pence is the worst kind of white nationalist, who sat there with his projectile stream of vomit lies. And by the way, those plexiglass shields were useless. You know, you got 14 days to figure out whether Smiling Mike Pence has got

COVID or not. And this thing can be projected up to 16 feet in the air. So that was just theater right there. Well, first of all, the reason we know that, Vice President Mike Pence canceled the trip with him and his wife to Indiana and all of a sudden abruptly canceled that schedule and they've not cleared the schedule.

No question, because I'm sure he's going to come out and say he hasn't. I mean, so, I mean, you know, so first of all, she put her life at risk. And to sit there and to be under that projectile vomit of smiling Mike Pence, who is a liar to his DNA, even more so than Donald Trump. Because, see, smiling Mike Pence is a Christian nationalist and a white Christian nationalist terrorist like that. I think there's no place for women in any dialogue. You know, I mean, he calls his wife mother. Right. So, you know, that makes him. But at any rate, the the whole idea is that she had to sit there and try to be balanced.

And when you're dealing with something like that in that straight jacket of civility, you might lose sight, Democratic Party, of the point. The debate, Smiley Mike Pence is talking to his white nationalist base. And as you say, those black men who might be confused out there, Smiley Mike Pence needs to pick a few of you off enough to get this thing close enough to steal. See, that's what Smiley Mike Pence was doing. And the only honest broker who went after Smiling Mike Pence last night was that damn fly. And if you want to know who was listening to the conversation like we're having right now, understand that the victor of that debate last

night, the one that everybody's talking about while we're actually talking about the substantive issues, are the people on social media tweeting pictures of a fly landing on his head. Smiling Mike Pence don't need no debates. This is. Look, I think this is all the entertainment. I think we talk about again. I look, we've seen Senator Kamala Harris questioning folks on the Judiciary Committee. And the reality is that could have a far more aggressive prosecution. But again, I think. But here's what you also have. And we have to be straight up honest. You're still dealing with a nation where other industrialized nations have elected women leaders and not the United States.

The Frank Luntz group of undecided voters when he was on the Fox News. Oh, she was nasty. She was this because that again, that's what happens. And look, I don't know what the hell Susan Page was doing, but I'm going to tell you right now, the way you stop somebody from over-talking you is not saying, thank you, Mr. Vice President. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Thank you. No, Susan Page needs to go sit with a black woman for 24 hours to learn how to shut somebody down, to learn how to say, excuse me, you have gone over

your time one too many times. That is it. And he just bulldozed her in this very nice, wonderful, you know, calm way. And I was sitting and I was like, Reesey, I was like, if this woman don't check his ass. But see, that's what I'm going to tell you what Reesey I was like if this woman don't check his ass but

see that's but I'm gonna tell you what Reesey that's that DC bullshit see that's that that's that whole you know I don't I don't want I don't want to sit here you know because what what's the right gonna say and no you're the moderator right moderate yeah I mean I actually think that she had great questions I will give her that but your job isn't just to sit there and ask questions. 69.3% of the poll of the people who watched the debate felt like Kamala Harris did a great job. That's practically 100% because we know that 30% of this country is hopelessly Republican and a lost cause. Her job last night was not to beat Mike Pence. Her job was to beat Donald Trump. People are not voting for Mike Pence. People are voting for Donald Trump.

And so I think that she was wise to pick and choose when she wanted to engage on Mike Pence. She gave him a gut punch with the whole auto bailout and pointing out that he did not, that he voted against that. But for the most part, she kept her focus on Donald Trump, which everybody is not, most people are not happy with. He has, his ratings are in the gutter. His favorabilities are in the gutter. And what I think Kamala Harris understood is that you have to win the post-debate game. A lot of times Kamala was excellent on the stage, but she lost the spin wars after,

and she lost the pundits and things like that. Those are the people that are going to curate the clips that you see on social media, the clips that go into the news things. And one of the biggest things that people focus on in these kind of debates is who's interrupting who, who's going over on time and this, any other. So I think that her strategy to stick within the rules, even though she obviously was gypped on time because Susan Page did a terrible job, she was much more succinct than Kamala is. And I love Kamala, but Kamala can be a little long-winded. But she was very succinct. She got very strong, memorable talking points.

They're coming for you is one of them. I'm speaking is another one of them. So her job is not to sit up there and assert herself as the biggest, baddest bitch that ever walked the world. Her job is there to bolster the Biden-Harris ticket and annihilate Donald Trump. Mike Pence is a non-factor. Absolutely. Here's the deal. So we're going to talk a little more about the debate. But I want to I want to do this. Well, first of all, we got Greg back there. So let me do this here. It was a bit ago. Joe Biden and Senator Kamala Harris, they were actually in Arizona where they were kicking off their bus tour.

And so what I'm going to do for in a second, I'm going to pull that up, but one of the things that I think that has to happen, and we're seeing what's happening after this whole debate, Erica, Greg, and Recy, in terms of how Donald Trump is just losing his damn mind, saying

to Bill Barr, indict Joe Biden with 26 days left before the election. Then you see, of course, just how unhinged they are in every facet. This is the thing, Erica, that I'm going to have to see from Democrats. And look, I know what Joe Biden is doing. I know his whole deal is unity, bringing the country together. But the reality is this here. The evil that these people have

unleashed on this country has damaged us in a significant way. And I will say this, if you are a Trump voter, you should pay holy hell for supporting what this man is doing. And what we saw last night,

again, the nonsense coming out of Mike Pence's mouth over and over and over again, I really hope that Joe Biden and Senator Kamala Harris, when they are in the White House, are going to be real to say, we are going to deal with all of these people, how they have destroyed this country, how they have lied about this country. There are folks who need to go to jail. There are folks who need to be indicted. I mean, I can just go on and on and on here. That, I mean, again, what these people have done, Erica, is an abomination to democracy.

Oh, absolutely. And I think that's why, you know, people repeatedly hear on this program from all of us and across the RFU family is that he is a demagogue. He's the son of a Klansman. This is the type of evil that we were expecting, particularly when he came down a candidate, said in Iowa that he could shoot a person on Fifth Avenue and people would still support him. I'm paraphrasing what he said. So now we speed up to here we are in October. And as you always say, Roland, please, everybody, don't pay attention to the poll. There's polling that's coming out that's showing that there's a wide gap in Florida, which always usually goes Republican and Colorado and other swing states and battleground states. But if we just think back

to a four short years ago, where we saw polling that show Hillary Clinton being up and we saw favorable margins, some up by almost 7.1, seven points ahead. So I think that particularly when we have five and a half million people who've already cast ballots, it is really eyes on the prize. It's heads down. Let mainstream media do what they do because they're going to continue to do that. They're going to continue to talk out of both sides of their mouth. They're going to continue to talk to these supposed undecided voters. What we have to do as a collective is really make sure if you're still in a place where you can register to vote, that you're registered to vote. Make sure, as Dr. Carr says, put five on it. Make sure you have

five other people that you're having these conversations with around ensuring that they're registered to vote and if they're not, registering them to vote. And people get out and vote early, whether that's vote by mail or voting in person, because this particular regime wants nothing more than continue to, as you said, run this country in the ground, wants to isolate it from the globe. We're already seeing how the New England Journal of Medicine, which is an apolitical arm, that is saying, listen, we have political incompetent people. And so we have got to get people that have a level of competency and that believe in science that are leading the American people. So the first 100 days, I agree with you, Roland,

there definitely needs to be on that memo prosecution of people that have caused harm, people that have marched people right up into the grave. And really, we have to look forward that this is not just, you know, an election. We're talking about decades of repair that needs to be done. What we also, I think, witnessed last night, we witnessed, Greg, in terms of when you look at when you look at the issues, when you look at especially on law and order. I mean, what you heard was Mike Pence saying, I don't give a damn about the rest of y'all out here. Folks are being shot. We are going to stand with cops. He criticized Harris as well as Biden for the criticism of police. And again, that was one of those things where I was hoping, I was hoping she was going to say, do you even care about the victims of police brutality?

Do you even care about that? And again, since Pence was trying to target black men, to me, that was a moment to also say, and you're the folks who refuse to even allow police consent decrees. You're the ones who are letting cops get off scot-free. You don't want to hold them accountable. And that's the piece.

The reality is you have Trump, Pence, Republicans who want to wrap themselves around cops. That's why all these police unions endorse them. That's why they support them. Because these cops in this country do not want to be held accountable by anyone. Greg, you're on mute. Greg, on mute. Greg, you're muted at home. You're live here. All right, so we're going to do this here.

So here's what I'm going to do, folks. We're going to get Greg's audio fixed. In the meantime, I'm going to play you. This was Senator Kamala Harris and Joe Biden kicking off their bus tour in Arizona. This took place about 30 minutes ago. Hi, everybody. Hi. Where's Vanessa? Where are you? Thank you, Vanessa. Thank you so very much for that introduction and for your leadership and all you do for the community here in Phoenix. Thank you. It's good to see everybody. It's good to be in the House of Labor. Earlier today, Joe and I had a chance to visit the American Indian Veterans National Memorial and pay tribute to the Native Americans who have served our country in uniform. We

were joined by the great Cindy McCain, a longtime friend of Joe's and someone I greatly admire. And I was fortunate to serve with John McCain in the United States Senate. And what an incredible, incredible American. He was a patriot of the highest order. And Cindy is supporting our campaign. And she's doing it because she knows that Joe and I will always do what she and John did, and that's put our country first. So we thank Cindy. We are so excited to be here in Arizona today. And later today, we'll stop and talk with workers and small business owners who are working so hard and doing everything right, but still struggling to get by. They are who I was thinking about last night at the debate. This election, more than any other in our lifetime, will affect every part of our lives with consequences that may last generations. And there is so much at stake. Our nation is at a

crossroads. Just think, all at the same time, we are experiencing the pandemic, the recession, a reckoning on racial justice, a changing climate that's battering our coastlines and setting the West on fire. And the future of health care hangs on top of it all. Because, you see, President Trump is in the Supreme Court right now trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. And along with Senate Republicans, he's trying to jam through a Supreme Court justice who will do exactly that, who will rip away protections from as many as 2.8 million Arizonans with pre-existing conditions. 2.8 Arizonans with pre-existing conditions. And while this president, of course, didn't bring the virus to our shores,

his reckless disregard for human life and for the well-being of the American people has allowed it to spread the way we have seen, and the casualties have been enormous. And so let's not make any mistake. His refusal to contain this virus is what has wreaked havoc on our economy. And I know folks are hurting, but I also know this, we can overcome these challenges if we elect Joe Biden as our next president. And here's the thing, Joe has had a plan for COVID at least since March. He's been talking about this. He knows what this means and the kind of leadership that is required to get on top of it and get in control. Joe knows these things.

And you guys may have seen the debate last night, even when Joe didn't have the briefing that Donald Trump and Mike Pence had on January 28th, Joe knew because of experience that this could be serious. And under his leadership, we will contain this virus and save lives and build our economy back better than before. Joe will be a president who restores the soul of our nation. He'll be a president who creates good-paying jobs and eases the burden on working families. And above all, Joe will be a president who unites the American people.

Democrats and Republicans and independents, old and young, from all backgrounds and races, to meet the greatest challenges of our time. And I plan on being right by his side. And we'll be ready on day one. We'll be ready on day one. But here's the thing, Arizona, we need your help. We've got only 26

days left. So let's not wake up the day after the election on November 4th wishing we'd done more. Let's organize and vote in numbers no one has ever seen before. Let's send Mark Kelly to the Senate. Vote like your life depends on it. Because right now, it really does. And yesterday, Arizona, vote-by-mail ballots were shipped to homes across this state. And in-person early voting has started. Including at the new McDowell Square Voting Center. Just about a mile from here.

So be a first-week voter. A first-week voter. And there are four ways to vote in Arizona. You can vote by mail. All right, folks, we're going to dip out of that. I was bringing back my panel here, Erica, Recy, and Greg. Where this race stands right now, first of all, that's the first time the two of them have campaigned together since they announced that

she was the VP nominee. One of the things that we are seeing how this race has changed, the fact that they're actually kicking off this bus tour after the debates in Arizona. That state is in play. Polls show that Joe Biden is leading in Arizona. Maricopa County is the largest county in Arizona. He's leading there. This has been a red state. Mark Kelly, a former NASA, a former astronaut. He, of course, is he, of course, is running for the United States Senate, has a 10 to 12 point lead against Martha McSally. What we are seeing here in terms of this race, Greg, we're seeing how the map is changing. Trump is flailing. He put out this video today looking like a fool, looking like he burnt orange. And then, of course, we're talking about Regeneron and how great he feels and how on Fox News, I would love to do a rally. I feel so healthy. Dude, stop lying.

You still got it, and we know you got it. It's people, I mean, it's more than 20 people in the White House who've gotten coronavirus. I mean, he is a walking, talking example of sheer stupidity. Rolling again, I mean, brother, your humanity continues to shine through. Yes, he's stupid, but they don't care.

Smiling Mike Pence showed that last night. They're purebred liars. I mean, the fact that Regeneron and Remdesivir were both developed by testing them from cells from fetal tissue, which is the exact opposite of what Smiler Mike Pence believes

in his little bitty heart of heart and what Donald Trump would believe to anything to get elected. I mean, these are the kind of things that in a world where logic and fact and truth makes sense, you could slam them on. And so, you know, even sitting there, even watching them today, you think about the fact that yesterday Derek Chauvin was released on a thousand dollar bail, the killer of George Floyd. What is his GoFundMe account looks like? And then this Toad Bar authorizes one of the deputies at the attorney general's office to say they can look into investigations and open investigations on potential voter fraud.

This close to election, violating decades of policy. They have thrown all notions of truth to the wind. They are going after the throats of everyone. But for Donald Trump to get on the tweet out today that Joe Biden should be locked up and Obama should be locked up for him to call Kamala Harris, Senator Harris, a monster. You know what? See, these are the kind of cat you just got to knock the fuck out. You can't. I mean, you can't. I mean, again, kudos to Senator Harris last night, because maybe I'm projecting, but I could feel because we've seen her differently. We've seen her, as you say, in terror. We've seen her destroy Bill Barr.

But as Reesey said, your job is to pump up Joe Biden. So whatever these minders, whatever these Democratic Party operatives are doing, if you got Joe Biden sitting behind you with his arms folded like this, no, bro, put your hands down between your legs and sit there and listen to the sister. Everything is in play now. And this is about political theater. Your opponents understand that. Damn the truth. They are going for the jugular. You have to destroy them down to their DNA. The day they win, the day Harris and Biden win, I'm like what Linda Sarsour said on your show. We've got our best opponent in the White House. There should be a march bigger than the Women's March was. And Tamika and everybody

else, we should all be out there, Mallory and all of them. Why? Because Biden-Harris, now it's time for us to give all the political momentum for y'all to get there and not just reverse what these fools have done. Now it's time to build the country that will be the only thing that can last. And that's what we have to do now. And I understand what is going on. It's a perfect example of what Donald Trump has unleashed in today in Michigan. 13 men, including members of the anti-government militia Wolverine Watchmen, are facing charges for allegedly conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and possibly killed her. They're going to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and possibly killed her. They were going to kidnap her from her summer vacation home

and storm the state capitol building with 200 men. Now, folks, the plot was revealed in an FBI criminal complaint which named six people as federal defendants from Michigan, Delaware, and Ohio. These white domestic terrorists, Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Caleb Garvin, Daniel Franks, Harrison Brandon, and Harrison Brandon Caserta. Again, Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Garvin, Caleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta. Now, Attorney General Dana Nessel of Michigan announced state terrorism charges against an additional seven individuals all tied to Wolverine Watchmen. The complaint reads, in early 2020, the FBI became aware through social media that a group

of individuals were discussing the violent overthrow of certain government and law enforcement components. Among those individuals identified were Croft and Fax. Through electronic communications, Croft and Fax agreed to unite others in their cause and take violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the U.S. Constitution. The complaint goes on to detail where they met, what they discussed, and how they communicated. Governor Whitmer said this today after the charges were announced.

Good afternoon. Earlier today, Attorney General Dana Nessel was joined by officials from the Department of Justice and the FBI to announce state and federal charges against 13 members of two militia groups who were preparing to kidnap and possibly kill me. When I put my hand on the Bible and took the oath of office 22 months ago, I knew this job would be hard. But I'll be honest, I never could have imagined anything like this. I want to start by saying thank you to our law enforcement. Thank you to the fearless FBI agents. And thank you to the brave Michigan State police troopers who participated in this operation, acting under the leadership of Colonel Joe Gasper.

I also want to thank Attorney General Nessel and the U.S. Attorneys Burge and Schneider and their teams for pursuing criminal charges that hopefully will lead to convictions, bringing these sick and depraved men to justice. As a mom with two teenage daughters and three step-sons, my husband and I are eternally grateful to everyone who put themselves in harm's way to keep our family safe. This should be a moment for national unity where we all pull together as Americans to meet this challenge head on with the same might and muscle that put a man on the moon. Seeing the humanity in one another and doing our part to help our country get through this.

Instead, our head of state has spent the past seven months denying science, ignoring his own health experts, stoking distrust, fomenting anger, and giving comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division. Just last week, the President of the United States stood before the American people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two Michigan militia groups. Stand back and stand by, he told them. Stand back and stand by. Hate groups heard the president's words not as a rebuke, but as a rallying cry, as a call to action.

When our leaders speak, their words matter. They carry weight. When our leaders meet with, encourage, or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions, and they are complicit. When they stoke and contribute to hate speech, they are complicit. These domestic terrorists have been emboldened by the White House, folks, since Donald Trump was in there. Joining me now is Malcolm Nance, the author of a number of books, including The Plot to Betray America, How Team Trump Embraced Our Enemies. Guys, show the book, please. How Team Trump Embraced Our Enemies, Compromised Our Security, and How We Can Fix It.

That's his book right there. Malcolm, look, the FBI director, Christopher Wray, has said before Congress numerous times the biggest threat are white domestic terrorists. Joe Biden emphasized that in last week's debate. Donald Trump was spewing nonsense, talking about Antifa, blasting him, and all these Republicans, let's just be honest,

they are in bed with these white militias. Well, if we're specifically talking about white militias, yes, they are the hard core base of Donald Trump's support. This is why he will not disassociate himself from the Proud Boys or the Ku Klux Klan or anybody else who is Caucasian and supports Donald Trump and flies a Trump flag, whether, you know, there's all sorts of violent groups there and people who are semi-violent. We had a massacre at a Jewish synagogue in Pittsburgh, Trump supporter. We had a man who mailed bombs in an attempt, a crude attempt, to decapitate the entire Democratic Party. Trump supporter.

We had armed gunmen that went to a synagogue in San Diego. Right-wing extremists, white supremacists, Trump supporters. I mean, these people are his base, and he thoroughly understands it. He cannot lose white men, so he doesn't care who supports him or what they do. And the thing here is that I was driving in, I said this here, anybody that votes for Donald Trump should pay the heaviest political price for what they're doing to this country. Because here's the reality, Malcolm. Trump is going to lose. He is going to get beat badly. And these people, at least 25% or 30% of this country, they will never accept the results. They have emboldened them.

This is not the Tea Party. This is even going even crazier. And these folks are going to continue to threaten storming capitals. These are the anti mask people. Trust me when there's a vaccine, they're going to be anti vaccine people. They're going to be pushing their conspiracy theories and you're going to have idiots like Jim Jordan and Louie Goomer and others. The crazy, crazy woman out of Georgia who's guaranteed to win Marjorie Greene, they are going to be

their flag bearers in the Congress. Right. And, you know, we really have to have some preparation for what could possibly happen. Look, I know that we are trying to maintain the norms that we have, and that's great. But this plot against Governor Whitmer is serious. It is very, very serious. If I were to take the name Wolverine's Militia off of this story and slap ISIS or Al Qaeda in it, it would be 24-7 coverage. I would never leave the studio, much less be in my man cave in my home. Be real clear, if this was 20 Black Lives Matter activists, oh, oh my lord. There'd be a national push to arrest everyone in every major city in America who had anything to do with the leadership of Black Lives Matter. This is where we have this double standard. Long ago, when I first started, I wrote a book that's used by almost all federal law enforcement officers

called The Terrorist Recognition Handbook. And we have sections in there about white nationalist extremists. This isn't new. Timothy McVeigh, when he blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, thought he was launching a race war in which every cop and soldier in America was supposed to recognize the attack as the moment they take their guns and kill every Black in government. That's what he thought would happen. These people really believed, according to the indictment, that there were law enforcement members associated with the militia. And like

McVeigh, you know, I met the cop that pulled Timothy McVeigh over and arrested him because the cop knew instantly that he had the right guy. But he said McVeigh thought he was his ally in blowing up that building. And he was proud to show him his gun. This is the mindset these militias have. They think the government, the military, state troopers and law enforcement are on their side. And the only reason the FBI got an informant out of the box was because they intended to kill not only the governor, they intended to kill her six-man state trooper security detail. They were going to blow up the bridge where there would be two or four more policemen there. And then they were planning on running and gunning and taking the governor up to Wisconsin,

of all places, in order to put her on trial as a tyrant and execute her. And why? Because she insisted they wear face masks in Michigan. This is insane. But the insanity has weapon. And the insanity believes they have the open endorsement of the president of the United States. But it's not just they have weapons. They also, in ProPublica, and I'm trying to find the story right now, ProPublica did a particular story laying out how these militias, in terms of their targeting cops. Not only that, we know the FBI dropped their own report that showed how police officers and white supremacists, first of all, how militia members and white supremacists are infiltrating police departments. That's why Timothy McVeigh was thinking that way. And that's why when black folks are talking about racist cops, we know what the hell we're talking about. Well, you're right. They do recruit from those areas. And, you know, I wouldn't call it

infiltration. I've trained a lot of law enforcement in New York, Georgia, all over the country, all of these SWAT teams and organizations that carry out counterterrorism. One of the interesting things I learned is that 80 percent of them do not go in the military. They all go to top school after high school, right? They go to these police academies and they have no fundamental training in the discipline of the armed force. So many of them get these exact same ideas, particularly sheriffs, because the posse comitatus movement in the United States and the sovereign citizen movement have created this myth that the sheriff is the only authorized law enforcement that they

answer to. That permeates into the mindset of these anti-government extremists and anyone who's a deputy sheriff or a cop or a retired cop or a retired soldier that comes into these ridiculous little, I don't call them militias, I call them covert terrorist cells, right? They're domestic terrorist cells who are in insurgency training inside the United States. The only difference is I use the word American versus Iraqi or Syrian, right? So these domestic terrorist cells, when they get a single guy who comes in there who's been in the army or a guy that comes in from law enforcement, they co-opt that belief that these people are all on their side. One thing I can tell you, having trained as a SWAT officer at one point with Capitol Hill Police and Los Angeles Police SWAT, cops are a very jealous

organization. They love the concept that they are the arbiters of law and order. So if these groups think that they're going to go to guns and step up the cop, this is the one time you will see police defend the system because they do not like anything other than the fact that they are the system. They don't like people with guns going on shooting sprees wherever they are. So they'll defend the governor. They'll defend the people of Michigan, you know, for all the faults that we see inside the system. And this is a mistake these crazy terrorist cells are making because we are not designed to collapse in a world like,

you know, the walking dead, where you think you can just get away with everything because you have guns. Well, look, this is something that is going to have major implications moving forward. I have been saying since 2009, folks get prepared for white fear, white minority resistance. These people are going to be very much involved in that. Malcolm Nance, author of the book,

The Plot to Destroy Democracy. We certainly appreciate you joining us at Roller Barton Unfiltered. Thanks a lot. My pleasure. Let's go back to our panel. Erica, again, this is something that, this is not an anomaly. This is going to happen a lot more. Yeah, absolutely. And the reporting bears it out. We just seen the New York Times reported earlier this week where there was a suppressed threat assessment that comes out annually that in fact talks about white supremacy and that these groups as being really the most prominent threat to our society right now on American soil, that it is, in fact, white domestic terrorists. And so just thinking about that, the implications of you have

a William Barr, who, as Dr. Carr says, is, in fact, the toady of the son of a Klansman, when you think that he has weaponized the Department of Justice for his own kind of happenings. When we look at that and we think about this report that was suppressed that did, in fact, talk about the violence, I'm just considering and thinking about, well, you know, as a person with a military background, it was good to see Malcolm on. But one of the things that I would love to ask him is when we think about those folks that have gone and they have been in war and served abroad during many conflicts fighting terrorism, would you consider a Donald John Trump to be a person that is radicalizing these people that we're going to continue to see, to also understand, as I said before earlier, that even after an election, prayerfully, it'll be in favor of Biden and Harris, that there is much work to be done. It is not time to be complacent. It is not time to just say, well, I voted and they won. I've done my job. It is really time to be prepared for

really the hard and heavy work that is going to be state, local and federal government cleanup and really just protections around these people who have have a commander in Donald John Trump that still feel that they have been called to order and will obey him no matter where he may find himself post the election. This is what I've been saying, Recy, what Donald Trump has unleashed, what Republicans have supported when these fools in Congress, by them shaming and blasting others for wearing masks, these are the people who stormed the state capital in Idaho, in Michigan, in Wisconsin. And that's what you're seeing. You're going to see more of that because these deranged individuals think that they are true patriots and they have no problem. They are racist against black people. The Proud Boys are racist as well. I don't care if some dude out there who's Latino, who's hitting the Pr boys. There are Latinos who are racist. And so folk had better understand these folks are not going away. And the Republican Party, knowing full well how their base is shrinking and shrinking, they're going to be even more appealing to these bigots and these

thugs, these white domestic terrorists. Absolutely. We have currently COVID-infected Senator Mike Lee, who said today on Twitter that democracy is not the objective and actually that rank democracy is a threat to liberty and things of that nature. That is a call to these militias. I call them terrorists. And what I'm really sick of is the fact that if this was a group of Muslims, or if it was, as you said, Black Lives Matter, these would be called terrorists. This would be called a terrorist cell. But instead, because they're white, they're called militias. And it almost indicates some sort of patriotism when, in fact, it is sedition. The same kind of sedition that Donald, I mean, that William Barr wants to charge Black Lives Matter protesters

with? Where are the sedition charges for these people who are trying to overthrow government? Where is the law and order party when it comes to these terrorists who are trying to attack and murder, kidnap government officials? Where is the law and order when it comes to that? But as we point out many times on this show, when it comes to Republicans, their law and order is not about law and order in terms of the laws that's written in the constitution, because we know they don't care about that. It is about the order of white supremacy. And so that's why we do not see them condemning or discouraging this. We actually see them encouraging it and radicalizing it. Stand back and stand by is a hold tight until we need to call upon you. But these people are trying to stockpile things. The way that they got these

people on these charges was when they were trying to exchange the money for the explosives and the ammunitions and things like that. And so this is something to absolutely be very, very wary of. More black people have to have guns. I'm not saying we started race war. Be clear about that. I'm not advocating violence, but we have to be prepared to defend ourselves. Make sure you get licensed guns, make sure that you have all your paperwork in order, but go ahead and,

and, and, and make sure that you're not caught out there because I mean, I personally don't think that these people are very much in our neighborhoods. These are in mostly white areas that these people get radicalized in. But just in case, it don't hurt to have some kind of something sold away in case shit goes down. Greg? No, Reese, he's right.

I mean, Roland, since this criminal enterprise began, this settler colony we call the United States now. It's been building toward this. I don't know if anybody could have predicted that there would be one event that might be the event horizon to forestall the inevitable. But when you're talking about a white nationalist settler colony project, settler colonialism, this is inevitable.

And, you know, Malcolm mentioned Timothy McVeigh, a military veteran, Desert Storm, who came. And when you listen to his testimony, this man who blew up the Oklahoma Federal Building and killed a little bunch of black babies who were in that daycare that day, in case people don't remember. He saw himself as a patriot. And he was. And by patriot, I mean not what we be talking about, patriotism. No, no, I'm talking about what patriot really means in a settler colony. It means

a white nationalist. So when we saw these people, you know, everywhere but the United States, ISIS is referred to as Daesh. That's what it's called in the Muslim world and, you know, coverage. But here in the United States, it's called ISIS. Fine. What we saw in Michigan with what some people are calling vanilla ISIS

is the one wing of the white nationalist project. They're all working together. Understand another wing is the Michigan State Supreme Court that ruled last week, 43, that the governor of the state doesn't have the power to extend the emergency measures that prevented perhaps as many as 74,000 deaths with COVID-19. Another wing is Neil Gorsuch and them on a Supreme Court who want to revive that same doctrine in the federal level, what they call the non-delegation doctrine.

So when vanilla ISIS was meeting to hatch this plot, they weren't meeting in Michigan. They met in Dublin, Ohio. I went to grad school and law school at Ohio State in Columbus. Dublin is the Columbus suburb. So another element of the white nationalist party is the secretary of state, Frank LaRosa, who's another member of Vanilla ISIS. He just happens to be an elected member.

So when he lost his case a couple of days ago, when the Ohio Supreme Court says, no, you can put more than one ballot box out, he says, fine. But they all got to be at a single location. So I'll put a bunch of them around the one polling, the office in each county. Understand they're all working together. Greg Abbott, the governor of your home state, Texas, is a member of the White Nationalist Party, except he's an elected member. So when he says put one box per county, he's working hand in hand, and all vanilla ISIS is, like all Timothy McVeigh thought he was, they are the paramilitary wing. Finally,

Jamie Raskin had the most important event that took place last week. It wasn't the debate or the screaming match, not the screaming match, Donald Trump screaming at Joe Biden. That same day is when you were talking to Malcolm, and you mentioned it, Roland. It was the hearing that Jamie Raskin, Congressman Raskin held on Capitol Hill, the Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Liberties, about the fact that these paramilitary

folks have invaded law enforcement and he used the 2006 FBI report and this FBI decided, well, they're not going to testify, they're not going to come. Why? Law enforcement is riddled with white supremacists. When the Vietnam War was over, some of them got on a plane and fought in what used to be Rhodesia on the side against the Africans in Zimbabwe. And then

Dylan Ruff, when he was arrested, you know why he had a South African, old South African patch on his arm when he went in there and shot up these people at the church, in Emanuel Church in South Carolina, because he saw himself as law enforcement. Law enforcement, the white nationalist party that is silent about this, and vanilla ISIS are all part of the same thrust. They are going to run white supremacy till the wheels run off. And if we don't understand that, everything else we think we understand, to quote Neely Fuller and Francis Quest-Wilson,

will only confuse us. Got to go to a break. When we come back, we'll talk Mariana Taylor Case. We'll talk some other news right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. forward slash Roland S. Martin. And subscribe to our YouTube channel. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real. It's Roland Martin Unfiltered. See that name right there? Roland Martin Unfiltered. Like, share, and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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That's a ripple effect forever. The files related to the internal investigation on the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor have been released. The investigation was done by the Louisville Police Department's Public Integrity Unit. The investigative file contains interview transcripts, investigative letters, reports, police personnel files, search warrants, and other information. Body camera video from the officers who were on the scene is also included. The release of these investigative files comes nearly a week after the grand jury recordings were released. Joining me now is Samil Trevante, Senior Staff Attorney for the Criminal Law Reform Project with the ACLU. Samil, first and foremost, what are we learning from these files? And also, what are we learning from the grand jury reports that were also released?

Thanks for having me, Roland. We're learning that there is a cover-up at play here. It's pretty clear that the reason that the Kentucky AG sent this to the grand jury in the first place is that he could control and tweak the investigation to his liking, which is made perfectly clear by the fact that even though a judge ordered him to release the grand jury tapes, he's still withholding his own recommendations, which we now know don't include murder charges. So this is a more systemic problem that is coming to a head in Louisville, where we see that prosecutors are controlling the system to benefit cops. And so, you know, again, looking at this, you've got Kentucky Attorney General Cameron. He's been in his feelings. He was a little upset because Megan Thee Stallion put him on blast on Saturday Night Live. But the reality is he lied.

He lied when at his news conference and then would answer certain questions when he was asked about the case. But he lied. Yeah, that's absolutely right. And now he's been caught. And not only did he withhold the grand jury tapes in the first place, now he's fighting a grand jurors motion to speak publicly about what happened behind closed doors. And it's painfully obvious to everybody here that he is engaged in a cover up for cops who they have an inextricable conflict of interest. And until we deal with that,

until we understand that prosecutors are continually covering for their friends, the police, we are not going to get an even-handed system of justice in the United States. When it comes to, so they release this, okay, then fine, what's next? What happens? Well, what we need is a further independent investigation. If we had a functioning civil rights division at the United States Department of Justice, for example,

we would bring that in. We're still not precluded from bringing more charges against the folks who were involved, against the police officers who were involved. And beyond that, we need systemic change. Attorney General Cameron was really fond of saying during his press conference that we need to move on, we need to take the next step. But he has all the ability in the world to move on and make systemic changes and to open up more investigations and be more transparent with the people of Kentucky. But it's clear he doesn't want to do that. He wants to bury this case and move forward. Well, that is certainly the case. So, Mel Trevedi with the ACLU, we certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Roland. All right, folks. We've often shown you a number of anti-Trump ads, but do you realize that they are not necessarily getting the attention they should be

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Why has the White House blocked the CDC from contact tracing this super spreader event? Maybe it's because the White House already knows who is patient zero. Why won't you wear a mask? Is it because the president would be disappointed in you if you don't wear a mask? I feel that it's safe for me not to be wearing a mask, and I'm in compliance with CDC guidelines, which are recommended but not required. Talk about your contacts with the president, what precautions you took. No one was wearing masks in the room when we were prepping the president, what precautions you took. Oh, no one was wearing masks in the room

when we were prepping the president during that period of time. It is being contained. And do you not think it's being contained? Late today, we learned that Stephen Miller, senior advisor to the president, has also tested positive. You spent a lot of time at the White House. Do you think there's a hole in the system there now?

I don't. As the CDC continue to study the spread of COVID-19, they're recommending that people wear cloth face coverings in public settings where social distancing measures can be difficult to maintain. President Trump just tweeted moments ago that he and the First Lady have tested positive for the coronavirus. I know there's a risk, there's a danger, but that's okay. And now I'm better, and maybe I'm immune. I don't know.

They are lying to you every day. If Donald Trump can't protect himself or his staff, how can he possibly protect America? First of all, how in the hell are you immune when you got it? Now, here's the deal. Filmmakers of these various ads say that they're being throttled on platforms like Twitter. So here's what Republicans do. So you have these army of Trump supporters. So what they do is when one of those videos runs, it typically gets about five million views on Twitter.

They then file a claim against the video and then what Twitter does is they simply essentially block the video. And so what they noticed was folks like 11 Films and others, they noticed that all of a sudden their videos that should have been getting more than five million views, all of a sudden we're getting 750,000 and topping out at a million. Is this digital suppression? Shereen Mitchell, she tracks these things. She joins us right now. Shereen, this is something that, again, average person's like, I don't see what the big deal is. But what we experienced this last week, and was it, I can't remember, was it after the debate, Shereen, where we begin to post different things on Instagram. You would get this notice by saying this looks like a material that's been blocked by others.

Do you sure you want to post it? So what they're doing is they are attacking posts and if they attack enough, it then triggers the algorithms to then block similar stuff. Correct? Correct. Correct. And just be clear that this is a tactic that was done because what they used to do was that if they saw content or saw people who they didn't agree with, they would just basically have a pylon, basically having all the fake accounts and troll accounts come after that person and their account and try to either shut them down from the attacks, i.e. because they were overwhelmed, or try to delude whatever the content was and make it look like that they were the major voice that's being heard over the real content that was present. So because that tactic is no longer working, why? Because now you can see the attacks and and those attacks are now being documented,

and so their accounts are being shut down. So instead of dealing with it from that perspective, a good example is what we will talk about what happened in 2016. Some of these activities are because of exactly what Twitter did in 2016, where they basically waited to after the election to shut down certain accounts that were violating their terms of service. That includes the Milos of the world, right? It was after the election that they did this.

Well, before that, other people were under attack and being targeted. And those people were being targeted without being protected. And some of them got their accounts shut down or banned because of those attacks instead of the people like Milo.

So they waited to after the election, so they didn't look like they were being biased, to shut those accounts down. Now, as a result, that angered certain groups. And this group that you're talking about that's doing this other model of it, where they're now coming back to those accounts, they're not attacking them outright. What they're doing is they're submitting them as if that they are harmful or violent content. And that is what's triggering these algorithms when actually none of these are any of that in any form. But the other thing that they're trying to do, because there is a new trigger in both the platforms, Twitter and Facebook, that basically say if this

is disinformation, you can actually, or this is something that is impacting the election, or this is about election integrity, they're triggering that part of, in my opinion, and what we're seeing right now, that part of the algorithm that is new because they just put that particular aspect in place. And so people don't realize that as they're trying to say that, for example, when Trump had his account taken down or his tweet taking down because he was lying about COVID after he quote unquote came out, i.e. immune, which was not true, that was finally taken down

and not given a disclaimer. What everyone else was getting was disclaimers to say, some of this content is not true, is possibly not true, which is what's happening to these groups. And that's slowing it down. What they weren't doing to Trump before was taking his content down. So now his content got removed because the COVID information was completely false. And now these groups are angry about that and trying to target Biden's teams, those who are promoting Biden in any way, who are having any conversation about what they think

should be said, trying to get out the vote and targeting them as if this is an equal debate. And it's not. And I'll give you just again. So people have to understand how these how the algorithms are really controlling everything these days. Shereen is a perfect example. We we have been battling Facebook for quite some time because we noticed that we were not able for some reason to monetize our show on Facebook. Go to my iPad. So here's one of the things that we got from them. Not eligible to monetize, but then we began to check it out. So check this out. This is what they hit us with. Limited originality of content. Roland Martin shared content that was unoriginal or repurposed content from other sources with limited added value. Now, what's interesting is that this whole show is original. Now, we do share clips and things along those lines, like every other news show. And so we have been battling Facebook. And I mean, I literally sent an email saying last night, why the hell am I even, I said,

if I can't make money off the platform, I don't need to be on it. But what's happening is again, these algorithms are bouncing folks out. And what ends up happening is you're unable to have your video seen to monetize these videos. So you're sort of like in this dark hole. And then you have no idea what the hell caused it, what the hell triggered it. But what's happening here, these are specific attacks by conservatives targeting any anti-Trump people because they want to make sure the videos do not go viral. Absolutely. And be clear.

Remember, I'm on the Facebook oversight board. We're still working on issues that Facebook is not addressing properly. We've gotten a couple of successes so far because we're basically saying, here are the things you haven't done right, and I guess you need public pressure to do it the right way. And so absolutely, not only is the content like yours is being shut down, but any content of, which I tell people all the time, those are the pushing out issues that are important to them, whether it's about immigration.

Immigration is classified as a political ad. If you're talking about that saying, hey, we want to help this community, if it's a nonprofit, it's classified as a political ad instead of a nonprofit. While politicians get to share their ads with lies in them, targeting those same immigrants, as if this is an equal playing field. And it's not. There's a power dynamic that's going on here. But the other part of this is the algorithms part that takes part in this. So unless the algorithm kicks it for a human to look at it, and again, Zuckerberg has basically blamed his content moderators for not moderating the content properly when that does happen, but that the algorithms themselves can be gamed in such a way that you can have certain content like yours to be removed. moved. And so in this moment, the reason why this is so important was that in 2016, we know for a fact that the political ads, the ad system in Facebook, as well as Twitter were gamed in 2016

with fake accounts, with false content. And so they think they're fixing this by coming up with these solutions that are, in my opinion, basically half-assed. I mean, I'm sorry to say that. But they're trying to come up with a solution where they're not coming at the base problem. And part of their base problem is the algorithm. They've said before, they have the algorithm to take hate speech off and remove all hate speech, but they're not putting that algorithm in place. Why not? If there's hate speech on the platform, remove it. There should be no question about that. But what they've said is because it might be a politician spreading hate speech,

that's the reason why they're not using the algorithm. And you're just going, so it's acceptable for hate speech under certain conditions, and i.e. if you happen to be a politician, right? But not me. I can't speak in any form of hate speech, but a politician can, and that's acceptable. And they can actually place the ad in that way, and you won't do anything about that. And that's why they need to be held accountable for not only their ads, but the decisions that they make

in terms of their terms of service. We're just asking them to actually use their terms of service. They have created their own terms of service. Use them as they're supposed to be used, so that we don't go through issues like this, where someone feels like they are being disenfranchised when they were breaking the rules in the first place and should not have been able to do the things that they were doing. Instead of telling people who are not breaking the rules that somehow they are part of the same

process when they're not. Putting out these ads, as long as it doesn't violate, it doesn't have violence in it, it doesn't have it doesn't violate, it doesn't have violence in it, it doesn't have disinformation in it, it doesn't have content that is, again, pornography or intimate images in it. These are not the types of things that should have disclaimers. Again, this is the war that we've seen being waged on the digital side. Sheree Mitchell, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me again. This is the reality, Recy. I think people need to understand the battles that are being waged. And that is

in the piece that we read, Democrats are having to play catch up. They, frankly, were behind. Republicans, look, Republicans have always been excellent at voter suppression tactics. Now, in this case, they are really focusing on using these skills because they see what is happening on the digital side and how they can be stop things from going on. And Democrats are playing catch up in this digital war.

Absolutely. I think I mean, to some degree, the Internet is a place of somewhat of an equalizer, but it's not the great equalizer that it once was because of the algorithms. I've been saying it. People probably thought I was just crazy or making excuses. But the bottom line is that these algorithms make all of the difference in terms of how our social medias are curated, how we are seeing which accounts, how often we're seeing them in the content. And as you point out, you might not even know that your stuff is being filtered out or things of that nature. And absolutely, people are abusing these reporting systems. And it's having an impact. And this is why we see things like, I made a video earlier about this sex trafficking QAnon conspiracy that seems to be permeating black social media, in particular Facebook and Instagram, where people are starting to say outlandish things.

Like if you are against if you're voting against Trump, you're voting for pedophilia and for sex traffickers. It's because all of the Republicans are winning. These crazies, these QAnon people are winning, aside from being banned on Facebook now all of a sudden, are winning the social media manipulation algorithm game. It's about bots. It's about programming. And we rely a lot on organic content, but it can only be so organic. It can only be so viral when you have these algorithms in place. So what people have to understand is don't think that you're seeing everything out there. Don't think because you're not seeing something, that means it doesn't exist. That

just means that the way that you hit like and retweet and comment is further filtering down what you see. If you want to get information, you have to be more proactive about seeking that information out. When you are seeing things that you like, you have to interact with those things. That's one thing I encourage Kamala supporters is interact with tweets that are pro Kamala, interact with things so that you see more of it, so that those things get higher visibility, so they get treated higher in algorithms. So it's all a game that we haven't figured out yet on our side. And Greg, when you start, again, when you start looking on YouTube, when you look at all of these different platforms,

there are people who game the system. Facebook kicked off folks like Epoch Times and others because they realized what they were doing is they were actually filtering the same information to 10 and 20 different websites. That's how conservatives have been playing this game. Then what conservatives do, Greg, is they go, oh my God, they're targeting us.

They're very excellent at whining. And then when the company's like, oh my goodness, we don't want to get criticized by the conservatives. Then talk radio and Fox News and Trump is going to tweet about us. So they bend over backwards to not offend them. And that's what you see happen.

And that's what we continue to see happen. They want to win the digital war because it's easier to spread disinformation. It moves six times faster than truth. Great. Especially when you have the institutional capacity to do it and the institutions are supporting you. What we just heard, what Risi just laid out as the strategy is really the only strategy we have at this point because this is an emerging technology that we're trying to figure out how to work

with and rolling the fact that you are conducting this behind-the-scenes warfare with these institutions just underscores the point that it's very difficult for individuals to be institutions. I mean, alchemy is neutral. You can have good alchemy, you can have bad alchemy. Clearly, they're involved in bad alchemy. They're conjuring,

but they have the benefit of institutions that have never been in our favor. So, of course, they're not going to work. There's a certain institutional inertia that works against us. So, what we have to do is do some good conjuring, like what Recy is saying, engage, move forward. The problem is, however, that that is time-consuming. So when you put that screen up and it said limited originality of content, that means that these white nationalists,

in tandem with the white nationalists who are subsidizing them, the RNC rolling out this however many millions of dollars they're putting behind the digital get-out-the-vote stuff. All this stuff is working against a one-man operation that can only continue to overwhelm that institutional capacity with the help of the rest of us. That's why we've got to financially support Roland Martin and Filchik so that whatever Facebook is doing until you can cave their chest in on this is neutralized by the

people who are putting two or three, four dollars on this thing every week, 10, 15, 50 dollars a year. And then they look up and say, we can't stop that. Yeah, you don't have no alchemy for that because we don't use the good alchemy. We have to use all of our strategies and 10. Erica, go right ahead. And then I'm going to drop some breaking news in a second. Go ahead. Okay. And great. And just to kind of add to what Recy and Greg have said, also, you just think about who are the architects of these algorithms. They're largely white men. When we look at the data that supports Silicon Valley and what that makeup looks like, and thinking about all of the women who have been working from home where you see that

workforce has been reduced because of responsibilities that they have assumed at home now removed from that place it is largely ran by white men and we all know that mark zuckerberg is no stranger not only to donald trump but to the white house as well so the onus is on us we've never really had protections as black people it's always been for us as a collective to make sure that we move and fight. And this is just another battle war, unfortunately, that we have to fight as well, the digital war. All right, folks, going to go to break. We come back. I'm going to share with you some breaking news from the Lawrence Committee for Civil Rights Under Law regarding voting in Ohio. And also Princeton University renames a building after racist Woodrow Wilson.

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All right, folks, this is the breaking news I was talking about. Just a few moments ago, Kristen Clark, she posted this on her Twitter feed. Breaking victory secured in Ohio over Secretary LaRose's unlawful and discriminatory rule banning counties from having more than one drop box. This ruling benefits voters across Ohio, especially those in Cuyahoga County and other population centers will keep fighting to protect. And so they have right here the actual motion that was granted. The court granted this, and this is, of course, what it says here. While the secretary has maintained the problem in Cuyahoga County and the plan the Cuyahoga County board adopted is not part of this litigation over

drop boxes, the court disagrees. The Cuyahoga County Board only voted for its plan to deploy staff to receive ballots off-site because the secretary had prohibited off-site drop boxes. It is clear throughout this litigation that the main rationale behind that prohibition was the secretary's now rejected interpretation of Ohio law. He believed Ohio law limited personal delivery to board premises. The Ohio Court of Appeals said there is no such limitation. The secretary is continuing to restrict boards from implementing off-site collection, and he appears to be doing so in an arbitrary manner. This is the kind of stuff that we're seeing, the kind of voter suppression tactics, Greg, that we're seeing in these by the Republicans.

They want to keep people from voting. We showed video yesterday of long lines in Columbus, long lines in Harris County. They want to frustrate people. They want to make them stay in line for two, three, four, five, six hours. Hopefully they can wear them down and they just give up and go home. That is their goal. I said, I mean, Dublin, where Vanilla Ice is plotted, this is the Columbus, Ohio suburb. And as we were talking earlier, when I mentioned that, Frank La Rosa said, oh, multiple boxes?

No problem. They got to be on site. So kudos to Kristen. Kudos to those women and men in the lawyer's pity for civil rights, because as you said, Roland, that fits seamlessly to what we were talking about 20 minutes ago. They won the battle. No, you don't have to have all those drop boxes on the actual site, because that's how they were gonna try to do it. And again, it's a war of attrition, everybody. We have to continue to fight. That is the bottom line.

If we don't, we'll lose. See, what I find to be interesting here, Eric, Erica, have to continue to fight. That is the bottom line. If we don't, we'll lose. What I find to be interesting here, Erica, is the Secretary of State tried to get cute, and so Cahill County said, oh, okay. No drop box? We'll send staff.

And then he's like, no, no, no. They're like, wait, wait, hold up. See, you know, y'all said the box isn't secure. They already work for us. Absolutely. And this is the check that we have been talking about. This is how you have to check Republicans, because the Republican Party, they are the party of oppression. So at every angle, when you think about the right to vote, when we think about just the right to citizenship and how that has really been blocked, we think about it politically, we think about, I think about at least the Republican Party so that the Republican Party

and Secretary in this instance, that they were actually checked, this is what you need. And this is why elections matter. This is why it's important to pay attention, not just what's happening on the national level, but to pay attention to the people that are state executive leaders and local leaders as well. Because particularly if they're aligned with folks who are party oppressionists, then you're going to see that kind of trickle down economics happen throughout your state and within your local community. So I'm very excited that Ohioans will continue to be able to vote and vote in a very safe way. And this is what we need to continue to push to do. We need to support folks like the friend of the show, Kristen Clark, and her organization,

what she's doing, and that she has a place to come and she's able to talk about that freely, which is here on Roland Martin Unfiltered, and support Roland Martin Unfiltered as well, because this is how messaging gets out. They're constantly doing this work on a daily basis. If you look at the Twitter feed, this is democracy helping to make sure that there's some semblance of democracy continues to go forward. The people that are behind the scenes doing the work like Kristen Clark are folks that we need to support. So I just would encourage everybody to please continue to pay attention to what's happening in your state as we are 25 days out for one of the most important elections of our lifetime. See, this is what Kristen Clark tweeted. Why was this discriminatory? Cuyahoga County, 850,000 registered voters. Franklin County, 850,000 registered voters.

Venton County, 8,300 mostly white voters. Under this scheme, they all get one drop box. This ban had a particular stark impact on black voters in Ohio's major population centers. Right. I mean, and that's the point. They do not win without voter suppression. I also want to shout out, though, Sherrilyn Eiffel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. One of the things that I've been doing, and I don't contribute a lot, but $5, $10 here and there to these organizations that are on the forefront. I know that you have ACLU and things like that, but we need to also make sure that we're supporting primarily Black-oriented legal organizations and civil rights organizations because they are on the front lines of these very important fights.

And we have to make sure that we're staying on top of it. Again, when it goes back to the curation and the algorithms, make sure you're following, Kristen Clark, make sure you're following Cheryl and I will make sure you're following the NAACP legal defense funds, because these things might not be reported on your local news. We know we have Sinclair Broadcasting, which is owned by Republicans, which is not necessarily invested in getting this information out. So we have to make sure that we're armed with as much information. We have to have a voting plan, A, B, C, and D. And this election is going to be heavily tilted with absentee ballots.

And so the way that people make sure they have the right postage and how they return it, or if they have a drop box to return it, whichever method that you use, make sure that you're planning for it and that you're staying on top of what your options are. And while things are good, when you're winning a ruling like this, get out to that drop box because these rules kind of go back and volley back and forth depending on which next court challenges it. So make sure that while things are good, if signature requirements are going away, like in South Carolina, then they come back. If draw boxes come, go away and come back.

Take advantage of it when it's happening at that time, because it's only going to be even more of an intense fight all the way up to November. All right, folks, Presley University will rename a building that was named for Woodrow Wilson, the U.S. president who imposed segregation on the federal government in the lead up to World War I with that of a black graduate, Melody Hobson. She, of course, has made a sizable donation for the new construction of the building. Hobson is the co-chief executive of Ariel Investments, the first black-owned investment firm, actually mutual fund. The money, which is coming from Ms. Hobson personally and from the Hobson-Lucas Family Foundation. Her husband is, of course, producer-director George Lucas.

They will create the Hobson College, which will replace a dormitory complex known until this summer as Wilson College. The reality, Greg, Woodrow Wilson was one of the most violent racists we've ever had in the White House. He, of course, came after that racist Herbert Hoover was in the White House. We've had numerous racists that have served in the United States in the White House, serving as president, including the current occupant. But I'm glad to see the pressure that was brought to bear there at Princeton

to take down all of these living symbols to these racist and white supremacists. Of course, the other folks was like, oh, no, we should leave these things up because, no, damn that. Okay, what this man did, especially by showing birth of a nation in the White House, he deserves to lose any and all honors. Oh, no question. Well, if we're going on who deserves and who don't deserve, I mean, we're talking about Harvey Weinstein today. Thomas Jefferson named me to come down off everything.

And while we're at it, let's go get George Washington. And that's what they're scared of. But guess what? That awful day, as they say in the church, will certainly come. All them names coming at some point. It may take us 50 more years. But, you know, really, you know, respect to Melody Hobson, to her her husband George Lucas, to the Hopson and the Hopson-Lucas Foundation and to Melody Hopson. That's a big deal at a place like Princeton.

You know, I spent a lot of time in that little college town. You know, my buddies Eddie Glow and Monty Perry on the faculty there in African-American studies. You know, Woodrow Wilson was president of Princeton, I think, from 1902 to 1910. Wilson was a real racist. And Princeton was known as the Southern Ivy. You know, when you read Craig Stephen Wilder's book, Ebony and Ivy, this is the place where when James Madison went there,

he brought the African he had captive and they had rooms for the enslaved Africans for the boys from the South, what used to be an all-male school, to come to Princeton. So for Melody Hobson to have not just her name on a building, but to literally be building from the ground up what would become Hobson College?

Look, Michelle Obama ain't got no name on a building at Princeton, and she went to Princeton. Sonia Sotomayor ain't got no name on a building at Princeton. This is a true paradigm shift for the one time southern ivy league school called princeton uh money money money um yes sir absolutely uh

folks of course uh we lost uh another one of our uh black entertainers johnny nash uh from houston best known for his 1972 hit i can see clearly now, passed away on Tuesday morning at the age of 80. The reggae and pop music singer-songwriter died from natural causes at his home in H-Town, according to his son, John Nash. Nash began his career as a pop singer in the 1950s and 1960s. He and his partner formed JAD Records, and while living in Jamaica, the pair signed Bob Marley and other members of the group, The Wailers. I can see clearly now the number one hit, number one on the Billboard Hot 100 on November 4th,

1972, and stayed in the top spot for four weeks. According to Billboard, the song returned to the Billboard charts when it was recorded by Jamaican reggae star Jimmy Cliff for the 1993 Cool Runnings movie soundtrack. According to his website, Nash was one of the first non-Jamaican singers to record reggae music in Kingston, Jamaica. In addition to his son, John, he's survived by his daughter, Monica, and wife, Carly Nash. They are certainly in our thoughts and prayers.

Alright, y'all, go into a quick break. We'll be back. Final. Final segment on Rollerbump Unfiltered. Hi, this is Dionne Warwick. You have just one vote. You better go ahead and use it. Okay? final segment on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Hi, this is Deion Wolbert. You have just one vote. You better go ahead and use it, okay? All right, folks.

Again, 25 days until Election Day. We want to show you the deadlines, early vote, excuse me, voter registration. Here it is. Today, of course, is October 8th. The deadline tomorrow, and listen to me, our people, especially in New York State, ain't that many of us in Idaho, let's just be honest, Oklahoma, but especially North Carolina. Tomorrow is the deadline for North Carolina. Saturday in Delaware. Then, of course, October 13th is Washington, D.C. Kansas. Why is Kansas important? The Democratic candidate for the United States Senate in Kansas, she is up five points against

the Republican. Trust me, Recy, Democrats will be shocked if they can pick up a Senate seat in Kansas. Folks, Minnesota is crucial. Lots lots of races there in rural Minnesota. They, Donald Trump, uh, thinks that they think they can win Minnesota. Uh, so you have, that's why he spent so many time going to rallies there. You've got New Jersey, Oregon, Virginia, and West Virginia. Your Virginia is critical because you've got some key ways races there. Cameron Webb, Dr. Cameron Webb, uh, Greg, an alpha brother of ours, could be elected to the United States Congress from that particular state as well. And so those deadlines are coming up in Wisconsin, October 14th. All of our folks in Milwaukee, be sure to get registered. We also

know that they're not going to be using the Milwaukee basketball arena for early voting location for the voting location because Republicans were trying to essentially challenge them. What they said is that the deadline and this is the games they play. The deadline of voting locations was supposed to be published by June 12th. Well, the NBA and others did not come to an agreement until September 1st. So the Republicans were going to try to argue that any votes cast at the basketball arena could be invalidated because of that June 12 posting. So the folks in Milwaukee said, forget it. We're not even going to use the arena. But those are the kind of games that are being played by Republicans when it comes to voting. Lastly, let's talk about this here. Erica, Donald Trump was on Fox and Friends whining and complaining. The debate commission said because of coronavirus that he was not they were not going to have a debate. They were going to make it a virtual

in-person debate. They're going to make it a virtual debate. Well, Donald Trump, Mitch Demone saying, well, I don't want to do that. I might as well, you know, I might as well not stay at home. And so then all of us, so then the Biden campaign said, fine, we're going to sit here and move the debates to October 22nd and 29th. And then Trump said, fine, we can do that. And the Biden campaign said, nah, to hell with that. Final debate is October 22nd. They've already agreed with ABC News to hold a town hall on October 15th to air that night. But here's what's interesting. All of a sudden, Donald Trump now, his doctor comes out, OK, and drops this statement here. A memorandum from the president's physician saying in terms of what his condition is. This is from Sean Conley.

Today, the president has completed his course of therapy for COVID-19 as prescribed. Now, remember all that stuff he was saying with HIPAA? Oh, he couldn't reveal anything. But all of a sudden now he can reveal personal information. He couldn't do it the other day. Couldn't do it on Monday, but he can somehow do it today. And so this is what so now they're basically clearing him by Saturday to get back out there. And so, you know, it's going to be, well, I'm healthy now to have a debate. Now it's too late. And so that's where we stand. Again, Joe Biden said, I'm not waiting on y'all. He is going to be holding a town hall on ABC. What we're dealing

with here, Erica, again, a desperate individual who is bleeding in the polls. He's trying to stop it. Now, bro, we about to leave. No doubt. We about to whoop your ass at the polls. And leave you to pay your four hundred and twenty421 million in debt that you've got to come up with in the next four years. You know, when we think about this active virus that wants to continue to travel about the country, let him go do it. Just make sure my people aren't there. Make sure that the folks that are essential workers, not like Kayleigh McAney, which she said that in a tweet that she herself was an essential worker. No, ma'am, I'm talking about the people that work these service industry jobs. Let him go

infect that one third that continues to worship and fall at the throne of the son of a Klansman. Let him do that. But I think, again, it goes back to really kind of where we are. People have pretty much made up their mind. And this is really about turning out folks who are unregistered in the base for the Democratic Party. So those efforts should be focused there, right? Not really trying to bring in people, these imaginary people that are supposed to be helping cross the finish line. No, no, no, no. It's more of us than it is of them. Focus on those groups. And I think that Recy mentioned this in one of her tweets, talking about, you know, protect Senator Harris at all costs so that to the extent that Senator Harris nor Vice President, former Vice President Joe Biden do not have to be around mediocre Mike

or the son of a Klansman or anybody that's within that orbit of infection to please, in fact, do that and just really concentrate and buckle down on talking and connecting to people that are really suffering, all of us, dearly under this leadership and these multitude of crises. Also, your thoughts on that, Recy, but also last night, 58 million, second most watched vice presidential debate in U.S. history, only behind the 69 million that was watched in 2008 with Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. It's the Kamala effect. And, you know, a lot of the pod bros and the white bro checks on Twitter like to say how nobody's going to remember it.

Hell no. This is a historic night. And Senator Kamala Harris showed that black women are competent and ready to take their seat at the table. So it was absolutely memorable. And people wanted to see that she delivered. She's the overwhelming winner in all of the polling that I've seen. But to the other point about, first of all, we can't trust anything that this doctor says, because this is the same doctor that released a physical report on Donald Trump

in the summer that said that he took hydroxychloroquine for two weeks to prevent COVID. So he has no credibility, no credibility whatsoever. I don't even know if I believe that he's taking the drugs that he says he's taking because he has financial stake in it and he's touting it as a miracle drug. So he is not a person that should be believed independently. Nothing that this White House administration does is anything more than propaganda. Even with the host, them asking the CDC director, Robert Redfield, to sign off on Mike Pence, what the CDC said is we consulted with Mike Pence's, and we basically took their word for everything that they said. So what Donald Trump is right now is desperate. They're bleeding money.

They're canceling ad buys in Ohio and Iowa and other states that he needs to win because they are significantly behind in the money race. Washington Post has an article out tonight that Republicans are starting to distance themselves from Donald Trump. These Republicans are going to distance themselves from Donald Trump. These Republicans are going to switch gears and put their money towards these Senate seats, like in Kansas, like in Alaska, where the Democrat there is gaining, and all across the country. And they're going to write off Donald Trump. So he is desperate to get back out there. And truthfully, he's completely idiotic to have turned down an opportunity to talk to 50 million people, even though we know he will lose the debate again because he doesn't have the money to compete on the airwaves. So that's why we see this big rush for Donald Trump to try to

get back out there again. He's a narcissist, but he needs the exposure because he's not going to win the money race and the ad race. Greg, final thoughts on, again, where we are, state of this race, and the sheer desperation of Donald Trump. Republicans, man, they look like rats scurrying left and right because they see what has happened. They look at these numbers. Raphael Warnock now in the race with Kelly Loeffler tops both her and Doug Collins,

meaning that goes to a runoff. It's going to be him versus Loeffler or Collins. Then you talk about Cal Cunningham up five points in North Carolina. The Republican Democrat up five points in Kansas. Mark Kelly is up 12 points in North Carolina. The Republican Democrat up five points in Kansas. Mark Kelly is up 12 points in Arizona. You have the Democrat who's running against John Cornyn down one, 47-46. You have the woman who's running against Susan Collins, Sarah Gideon. She is up seven or eight points. You've got the woman, I can't remember her name, who's running against Jodi Ernst. She's up 12 against Ernst in Iowa. And so Democrats could very well be in the Ossoff-Purdue race in Georgia. As Philip Ossoff is now on top there as well. Again, I tell everybody as well,

polls are not votes. But again, what you're seeing is every day Donald Trump does another infomercial for Regeneron talking about how God blessed him with getting COVID. All he's doing is just pissing off more of these people who have seen folks die. And all I keep saying is, brother, keep talking. Orange man, keep talking. Because the more you talk, the more your ass going to lose. Roland, when he came out with that video yesterday looking like Man Tan Moreland or Burt Williams, I said, man, what the hell? But I tell you what, though.

Listen, I'm listening to Reese and I'm listening to Erica and have been listening, of course, to you say this over and over again. We have to run through the tape. Remember that awful night when we were at the restaurant in 2016 and you did

that live coverage and it got deeper in the night and everybody began to realize what the hell was happening. Look here. Look, as far as we are concerned, we need to act like everybody is one point down and your vote is going to be the one

to make the difference. Don't ignore them all. Break Kelly Loeffler's whole political back. All these little memes she's putting out with Donald Trump fighting coronavirus while he got this little momentary hide from these steroids. Ignore it all.

Break her back. If the Atlanta Dream, the team she owns, if these sisters can stand up and say, go to hell to the woman who pays Bryce their check, the least we can do is act like she's ahead by three points. Got to run through the tape. Erica done laid it out. And look, because this dude right here, I'm looking at Tiz James in New York, and I'm saying Tiz James is the

Erica Savage of Attorney General's. This man going to jail. And so when I hear Recy lay out strategy, look, Recy is right. They're running scared. But guess what? We should now, that's not the moment for us to just stand back.

We need to remember that election night in 2016 and act like everybody's seat is in danger. We got to run through the tape. Well, again, and that's the key. I want people to understand that what we have to do is we have to be laser-like focused on all of this. And I'm talking about, that's what I'm saying. I don't make no assumptions. I think a lot of black people made assumptions in Florida when Andrew Gillum was showing him up and folks took it easy. No, you can get all the rest you want after.

And I say vote so steadily that the mail-in ballots won't be able to save his ass that's where we got to be racy absolutely i mean i think personally i do think it's going to be a blowout but i said earlier today on the clay pain show listen i'm confident but i'm not complacent we have to as dr carson i'm glad he said it first so i don't have to, as Dr. Carr said, and I'm glad he said it first so I don't have to steal from him, break their political backs, okay? That is our only option. A lot of these absentee ballots are going to be the first ballots that come in. These early

votes are going to be the first ballots that come in. It's changed to where before the absentee ballots were counted last or they were counted the same at his election night. And a lot of places, these are going to be, we're going to know the tallies the second that the polls close. And so we have to get our votes in. We have to vote properly. Black people, we are just as intelligent as white people. So there's no reason why our ballots are getting rejected four times more for user error,

things like signatures and things like that. They're looking for anything. So we have to be very thorough in what we're doing so that our votes count. If we do that, then we'll win and we'll win big and we'll win unequivocally. And we won't have to be talking about how the election was stolen from voter suppression because black voters had a higher rejection rate. Let's do everything that we can in our power to make sure that our votes count. Y'all remember this scene from Remember the Titans? I've been telling y'all. Run it up, Herman. Leave no doubt. Run it up, Herman. Leave no doubt. That's what I've been telling y'all.

Hashtag leave no doubt. You know, since Orange Man dropped his little video, I had to go ahead. Matter of fact, he ain't even orange anymore. He burnt orange. He like the University of Texas colors. He burnt orange. He burnt orange. It really is. And so the Lincoln Project dropped another video,

and they had to go ahead and reach back to all them crazy white conservative evangelicals who were praying for Trump. Y'all ready for this? Please. I execute judgment on you, COVID-19. Hold on a minute. I caught it. Anybody, COVID-19. Hold on. I caught it. Anybody in here a person of faith?

Let's all pray. We should pray. We pray. Say a prayer. We pray. Pray. Let's pray. Earnest prayer.

Let's pray. I brought my Bible. God walks on White House grounds. You need to send in that $3,000. $35,000. $100,000 check. You're going to write your checks to Paula White Ministries. In the name of Jesus. I don't do a lot of things that are bad.

Let pride fall. Try and do nothing that's bad. Let pride fall. You don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. Absolutely and hallelujah. Every life brings love into this world. We command all satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now. Woe to the nation that calls evil

good. So I think this was a blessing from God and calls good evil. Ha ha! Oh, I had to go ahead and end the show on that one. If y'all want to join our Bring the Funk fan club, we need y'all support. Every dollar you give goes to support

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doing and so of course we have great panels great conversation this is about informing our people information is power let me be real clear you've heard me say this. You can go pull the panel back up, Anthony. This is the thing I need y'all to understand. We have enough damn entertainment in Black America. We are entertaining ourselves to death. Okay?

Yes, Tony Lane's, his ass got charged today for shooting Megan Thee Stallion. Got it. Tori, where the fuck? I don't see right there. So, Chelsea goes, Tori. I don't know. I don't give a damn about his name. Tori, Tony, I don't give a shit.

What I'm trying to say is this here. We got enough damn entertainment. And what I'm sick of, I'm sick of, and I have nothing against my black entertainers. I know many of them, but I'm sick and tired of black networks thinking and black websites thinking that the only way you can present information is through the internet. And I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that.

I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I know many of them, but I'm sick and tired of black networks thinking and

black websites thinking that the only way you can present information is if you have celebrities who are filling up most of the seats. All right, Greg, Reesey, Erica, not, they don't, they ain't no singers. They ain't no dancers. They playing on instruments. They ain't here to sell no records, no movie coming out. And again, nothing against them. But Black people, we can educate our people without being so focused on saying it has to be entertainers. And it drives me crazy when I see these Black networks,

and that's what they do. Oh, no, we can't do a news special, can't do anything, unless we have some entertainers. Because what we've been saying is, we don't have a news special, can't do anything unless we have some entertainers. What we're saying is if we don't have black folks who can dance and who can sing, then black folks not going to want to watch. That's a lie. We're proving it every single day. Our numbers are

growing every single day. So the dollars that you give go to support everything that we do with this show. We're going to have a post-debate. First of all, there's no debate next week. But that final debate, October 22nd, we're going to be here. And we are planning a major election night coverage.

And I'm not going to announce it yet. But our entire election night coverage is going to be simulcast on a radio network. All eight hours. See, that's what happens when you own your shit. You're not having to ask somebody else, please, pretty please, can we do this? And so we are about controlling the message, presenting our people. We're going to have the best covers that night. Y'all might as well go ahead and plan it.

I want y'all to tell all your family. Do what Greg did. They finally get together. Last time they got together last year. Teach all your uncles and your aunts and your grandmother and your grandfather and your mamas and daddies how to pull a show up, how to put it on a big screen. You don't want them to sit. They don't want to sit around watching their phones,

show them how to put the show on a big screen. They ain't got to watch CNN and MSNBC and ABC and CBS and Fox News. We are going to have real authentic black discussion on election night and nobody else is going to come close i did and when i say nobody else that includes every black network other black websites other black newspapers and black magazines nobody's gonna do what we do. Trust me, y'all do not want to miss it. And yes, I'm going to have a black caterer there that night with some pound

cake and not the pound cake. With some pound cake and peach cobbler for the staff. That's how black we're going to be on election night. Greg Recy. Erica, I appreciate it. Folks, yes, I'm rocking. I'm wearing, y'all figured it out. I'm wearing nothing but election shirts between now and election day. Yesterday was shut up and vote. Sister from Dallas sent to me tonight. The folks at BeWokeVote sent me this and they sent me this, a hat and a hoodie as well.

And so that's what I'm rocking. That's what I'm rocking today. And so I got something else tomorrow. And, hey, that shirt Regina Bell had on, vote with the V in blood. Yeah, you know they sent that to me. I'm going to be rocking that one too. So I appreciate it, folks. I'm going to see y'all tomorrow. We got to go.

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