#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Shutdown Vote Showdown. Ossoff Grills Gabbard. Young Trumpers Shift. Afroman Lawsuit Explodes

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

3.18.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Shutdown Vote Showdown. Ossoff Grills Gabbard. Young Trumpers Shift. Afroman Lawsuit Explodes House Democrats have revealed their plan to force Republicans to hold a...n up-or-down vote to end the detrimental Trump-Republican shutdown, ensure hardworking TSA agents are paid, and rein in ICE.  Georgia Senator Jon Ossoff got in Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ass during today's Senate Intelligence Committee hearing. He questioned whether Iran posed an "imminent nuclear threat" before the U.S. and Israel launched joint strikes on Tehran last month and asked why she was in Georgia during January's election office raid.  Young Trump supporters are shifting their allegiance. I spoke with the hosts of The Other Side of Change about why this is happening.  Tennessee State Senator Charlane Oliver criticized Democratic State Representative Bo Mitchell for not seconding Representative Aftyn Behn's request to bring their "Homes Not Hedge Funds" housing bill to the floor. Oliver will join us to explain her fiery comments regarding Mitchell. Seven white Ohio deputies say rapper Afroman used their likenesses without permission in his music videos. The video in question is from Afroman's security camera during a 2022 raid at his home.  The deputies are suing for defamation, saying they have suffered humiliation and death threats because of the videos. We'll have a legal expert discuss whether the First Amendment protects his actions. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:55 Listen to bleep with Anna Navarro on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. You get your podcast. Today is Wednesday, March 18th, 20206, coming up on Roland Martin Unfilker, streaming light on the Black Star Network. Oh, my goodness, House Democrats have revealed their plan to force Republicans to hold an up or down vote to NV from Republican shutdown to pay TSA agents. But they like, we ain't giving no money to ICE. Georgia Senator John Oswald.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Question the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, it really what he ended up revealing was she ain't that intelligent. Folks, young Trump supporters are shifting their allegiance, but also what's going on with young black voters, how do politicians,
Starting point is 00:26:45 and what must they do to speak to young black folks would talk the host of the other side of change on the Black Sun network about why this is happening. Tennessee State Senator Charlene Oliver ripped a fellow Democrat vote. Mitchell were not seconding Representative at any of his request to bring their homes, not hedge funds, housing bill
Starting point is 00:27:06 to the floor. Oh, man. She like just clusked his ass. Owl. She joins us. Seven white Ohio deputies say, y'all say rapper Afro-Man. He really hurt their feelings. He used her likeness without permission in his music videos. He said,
Starting point is 00:27:22 wait a minute, I got the First Amendment to say what I want to say. Y'all, wait until we show y'all the videos. wait till we show y'all some of the testimony in this trial oh my god hilarious it's time to bring the funk on rolling martin on the filter of the black star network let's go lookers keep saying democrats are to blame for the long lines at airports because they will not fund a bill uh to fund the department of homeland security because that includes ice Democrats are like, no, no, no, we'll pay TSA, but we don't give a damn about ICE. Well, today, House Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries,
Starting point is 00:28:52 and his Democratic caucus, they launched their plan to fund most of the Department of Homeland Security, which includes the Transportation Security Agency, but they made it clear, nah, ICE, until they are transparent and honest, we ain't doing a damn thing, and Republicans, if y'all want to keep complaining about TSA A doesn't need to get paid, Well, then y'all need to vote for the discharge petition as well as fund FEMA, the Coast Guard, and other DHS agencies. Roll it.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We are gathered today on the Capitol steps in support, strong support of paying TSA agents, making sure that FEMA and the Coast Guard and our cybersecurity. professionals who are keeping us safe, are supported, and can be put back on the job with pay. This is day 33 of the Trump Republicans shut down of the Department of Homeland Security. Why is this happening? It's because Republicans have decided to force TSA agents to work without pay. inconvenience, millions of Americans across the country and create chaos at airports rather than get ice under control. That's what's happening right now in this country. And it's time for Republicans to stop holding the American people hostage to their extreme immigration agenda and to put the American people first. It's time to pay TSA agents and it's time to pay them now. We believe in this great
Starting point is 00:30:57 country of ours that taxpayer dollars should be used to make life more affordable for the American people, not to brutalize or kill them, which is what ICE has been doing. And so we have a choice. We can fund TSA, fund the Coast Guard, fund FEMA, fund our cybersecurity professionals, or continue to allow ICE to brutalize and in some cases kill American citizens or to violently target law-abiding immigrant families. America deserves better than what we're getting from Donald Trump and extreme MAGA Republicans. And so we stand here. today, United, understanding that the country is at a crossroads.
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Starting point is 00:32:35 out of control. America is too expensive and Democrats are fighting hard to make life more affordable. Folks, my panel, Brian Shapiro, hosts pushing the limits, joining us some Los Angeles. George Cheney found on Joy Strategies out of D.C., glad to have both of y'all here. Listen, Brian, smart politics. And this was crazy. Democrat should have been using the discharge petition
Starting point is 00:33:02 a long time ago. It is an effective weapon when you're in the minority to force a bill to the floor. And again, there are vulnerable Republicans who don't want to look stupid voting against the bill to fund TSA when people are waiting in long
Starting point is 00:33:20 lines. Yeah, I agree. I think this is a this is a huge win for Democrats. Obviously, Hakeem Jeffries and many of the other Democrats in D.C. are not going to be funding ICE or at least they're not going to do anything to help ICE, that's for sure. This is a win for Democrats. And, you know, the midterms are right around the corner. We see what's going on in this country when it comes to our economy and these TSA agents. It's horrible. And they just had to deal with this not that long ago. Same deal. So, so I feel for them. And what he's, Hakeem Jeffries is doing, this is what I want to see from him. This is leadership. And this makes the Democrats look good, but this is also what the Democrats want. They want to be able to allow these
Starting point is 00:34:00 people to put food on the table. They want these people to be able to get the checks that they deserve, while at the same time not funding ICE. And I think this is, like I said, Roland, I think this is a win-win. And I saw Hakeem Jeffries comments live. I thought he did a really, really good job and it was nice to see and I think the American people are with him most of the American people are with them on this one how could you not be you know Joe a lot of people complain and they have been complaining since last year about the leadership of a Democratic leader Jeffers saying oh my God he's not the person for this moment and and I have consistently said to people that for the first nine months or so 2025 Democrats were
Starting point is 00:34:46 sort of like, where do we go? What do we do? They were all over the place. But it was the government shut down that gave them their sea legs when they were able to lock and load on the issue of health care. And since then, between that, the Epstein files, we can go on
Starting point is 00:35:02 and on, they've been doing this. And so I think people need to understand something. Okay. Do you want this, you can say I want this charismatic person who's driving messaging to be the leader. But they don't understand the Democratic leader is actually somebody
Starting point is 00:35:18 who knows how to marshal the forces internally. And so the public doesn't quite understand, look, you may want this great spokesman but that's not always the person who knows how to pull and keep folks together internally. That's right. I mean, first of all, it's good to be on with you, gentlemen. I worked for Harry Reid when I first worked in the Senate. He was certainly not, you know, a Kennedy
Starting point is 00:35:45 or at her. He was not orator. He was not as eloquent as some. Girl, stop being so nice. That man was boring. He was not, boy, if Harry Reid was your definition of electrifying, that means you were
Starting point is 00:36:03 in a coma. Exactly. But he knew how to wield power. Correct. And he was very powerful and very effective. And he would marshal those who had bigger voices, right? But what he did behind the scenes is what ultimately put wins on the books, right, for Democrats and brought back a House and Senate that would then ultimately
Starting point is 00:36:28 bring us in Barack Obama. So, you know, those things and then the Affordable Care Act and so on and so on. So it's, you know, the skills that you need for the House and Senate that we are often looking for in our leaders. And so, you know, he means. might have had a tough start, but Hakeem Jeffries has certainly picked up on the fact that there are moments when the power of the majority is to hold the power of the purse. And by the way, they couldn't do any of this if Republicans didn't also agree with them to a certain extent. And at any point, if the Republicans want to fund TSA, they absolutely can. The discharge petition is one way. The other way is for them to fix ICE. They could make the changes
Starting point is 00:37:14 many of them bipartisan changes that Democrats have been asking for. These are not outrageous things. They're not, you know, there are some who are like just defund all of ICE, but most of the changes are about policy changes that are about reviews, that are about stripping funding from some aspects of ICE. You know, there are really some moderate positions that are out there, and the Republicans are having none of it. They will not come to the table.
Starting point is 00:37:40 So when you're not doing that, then the other side has no reason to come to the table. table on you. Bullying always has a limit. Donald Trump is realizing that the Republican caucus is realizing that they need to fund TSA and not fund ice. All right, so y'all might have
Starting point is 00:37:58 heard Brian laughing or chuckling we were talking about Harry Reid. His show pushing the limit airs on KSHP there in Las Vegas. He's on from 12 to 2. So Brian, you would laugh about that. And again, Harry Reid was
Starting point is 00:38:14 not, I mean, he was not exciting you when he spoke. And there are a lot of people... I mean, I hear people who complain about, they don't like Jeffrey's hand movements, they don't like all of this, but here's what
Starting point is 00:38:31 he's doing. He is putting Republicans on the defense. So if you're a Republican, you've been whining and complaining about long lines in TSA, he's saying, okay, here's a deal, all right? Because Democrats have already put forth various bills, Republicans that blocked in the Senate.
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Starting point is 00:42:41 This is Amy Roboc alongside T.J. Holmes from the Amy and T.J. podcast. And there is so much news, information, commentary coming at you all day and from all over the place. What's fact, what's fake, and sometimes what the F. So let's cut the crap, okay? Follow the Amy and T.J podcast, a one-stop news and pop culture shop to get you caught up and on with your day. And listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, House Republicans, y'all now got to be on the record. So what you're going to do? You're going to say no? Are you going to say don't fund FEMA, don't fund TSA, don't fund all those
Starting point is 00:43:24 other agencies except ICE, what y'all want to do? And if they vote, no, they can't now try to put it on Democrats. Oh, it's your fault. No, no, no, no, no. We put the bill on the floor, what you're going to do? But Roland, it can't stop. Democrats need to continue to do this. I Hakeem Jeffries needs to continue to do this. Listen, we're spending $2 billion a day on an ill-advised, illegal war. Hakeem Jeffries needs to continue to do. I like what I've seen from him lately, but I want to see consistency. As you guys said, you know, he got off to a little bit of a rough start. This needs to continue into the midterms, and it needs to continue into the 2008 presidential elections do not allow a Maga Republican ever to get back into the White House.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Need to talk about the war. You need to talk about the fact that they're taking. taking food off the table, not just for TSA agents, but 20 million people, Medicaid. They're losing their Medicaid coverage. Millions of people losing their food stamps, helping the poor. This is something that the Democrats need to focus on and need you to continue the messaging. Because as you know, Donald Trump's poll numbers right now, not very good in the high 30s or so. Among independents, I think the last stat I saw was around 26 percent approval rating for Donald Trump. Hakeem Jeffries, you need to put the pedal to the medal.
Starting point is 00:44:39 The Republicans are in a really bad spot right now, and rightfully so. There's a lot of Americans that are unhappy with the war. They're unhappy with the economy, not just TSA agents, people all over the country, small business owners. Yes, I like what I'm seeing from Hakeem Jeffries. And yes, you're right about what you said about Harry Reid. I interviewed him a number of times, the late Harry Reid. Listen, I like the guy. He was quite boring.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'll be honest with you, he wasn't a very charismatic figure. He would always talk to me, Roland, about his amateur. boxing days back of the day. He'd love to talk boxing. But you know what? Harry Reid did a lot of good for a lot of people. And me being here in Nevada, as I've been here for 23 years, I got a chance to know the man very, very well. And by the way, I'm glad that our airport is no longer called McCarran Airport. It's called the Harry Reid Airport. And I'm very proud of it. It is. It absolutely is. Yep. It absolutely. So. It's a great example. It's perfect that we're on tonight. But again, bottom line here is Democratic
Starting point is 00:45:39 must keep applying pressure to Republicans on here. Speaking of applying pressure, my goodness, there were a couple of hearings today. One of them had to do with the Director of National Intelligence, who's not really intelligent, Tulsi Gabbard. She had answered a series of questions, which was unbelievable. Man, Senator John Ossoff of Georgia was like really putting the screws to her saying, where was the evidence that Iran
Starting point is 00:46:09 was a threat to America. And if y'all want to listen to stupidity and somebody who doesn't want to answer the question because she knows that the real answer contradicts her idiot boss, Donald Trump, watch. On March 1st of this year that this war was launched and was, quote,
Starting point is 00:46:34 a military campaign to eliminate the imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime, end quote. That's a statement from the White House, quote, the imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime. Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was an imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? The intelligence community assessed that Iran maintained the intention to rebuild and to continue to grow their nuclear enrichment capability. Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was a, quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? Yes or no? Senator, the only person who can determine and what is and is not an imminent threat is the president.
Starting point is 00:47:15 False. This is the worldwide threat steering where you present to Congress national intelligence, timely objective and independent of political considerations. You've stated today that the intelligence community's assessment is that Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated and that, quote, there had been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. was it the intelligence community's assessment that nevertheless, despite this obliteration, there was a, quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? Yes or no? It is not the intelligence community's responsibility to determine what is and is not an imminent threat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:54 That is up to the president based on a volume of information and information that he receives. It is precisely your responsibility to determine what constitutes a threat to the United States. This is the worldwide threats hearing where as you noted in your opening testimony, quote, you represent the ICs assessment of threats. You are here to represent the ICs assessment of threats. That's a quote from your own opening statement. And so my question is, as you're here to present the IC's assessment of threats, was it the assessment of the intelligence community? that as the White House claimed on March 1st, there was a, quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime. Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Once again, Senator, the intelligence community has provided the inputs that make up this annual threat assessment. You won't answer the question. It is the nature of the imminent threat that the president has to make that determination based on a collection and volume of information and intelligence that he is provided with. You're here to be timely, objective and independent of. political considerations. Exactly what I'm doing. No, you're evading a question because to provide a candid response to the committee would contradict a statement from the White House.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That child is trifling. Brian? Oh my gosh. I have a lot to say about this. First of all, Tulsi Gabbard is a coward, and it doesn't bring me any joy to say that about somebody who served. That's number one. Tulsi Gabbard, ten months ago, as you recall, Roland, under Her oath said that she had no reason to believe in our intelligence that they were furthering
Starting point is 00:49:42 their nuclear capabilities. She said that under oath 10 months ago. Then what happens? Donald Trump bombs Iran. We obliterated their capabilities. That's what we were told eight months ago. So we obliterated their capabilities again. This makes absolutely no sense.
Starting point is 00:49:57 She's a coward. And by the way, she is doing just about what everybody else in the Trump administration does when they're under oath. Okay. This kind of word won't answer a basic question. just like Pam Bondi won't answer a basic question, just like Cass Patel wouldn't answer basic questions, just like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wouldn't answer basic questions by Democrats. That's exactly what she's doing here. And we've heard five or six different excuses as to why we went to war in Iran.
Starting point is 00:50:22 First we heard it was regime change. And then when they were told, well, wait a second, we have to put boots on the ground. Then they moved to, well, the civilians need to rise up. Then when that didn't work, then somehow we were told the civilians need to rise up. Then after we were told that, then we were told that they have these nuclear capabilities. Then Marco Rubio said Israel forced our hand. And now it's all about going after their hits. They can't even lie right. They can't even get their lies straight. And then you have a high-up individual in the Trump administration who just resigned and said the reason why he was resigning is because Iran wasn't an imminent threat.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And now they're trying to disbred at him. This is a mess. But this is what happens when you put incapable people and incompetent. competent people in high powerful positions like the Pete Hegsefs of the world and others. And Donald Trump is saying we did this on a win, we did this on a feeling. And our innocent soldiers, Roland, as you know, are dying. Thousands of innocent people have died in Iran. Innocent people are dying in Israel.
Starting point is 00:51:21 We're spending $2 billion a day on this war while they take medical benefits away from Americans. This is a disgrace. And even Maga are finally starting to smell the roses a little bit and realize, hmm, maybe this wasn't America First after all. Yeah. That's right. And I mean, Joe Kent, his letter, if you have not read it, if we can put it up, I wish we would, Director of National Intelligence, National Counterterrorism Center, he was their director.
Starting point is 00:51:53 He was their hand-thicked guy, okay, who was advising her on these issues. And he had to come out and say, I cannot support this. He effectively is saying they are lying to you. That is not an insignificant thing. So, you know, while I know Tulsi Gabbard was there today, I almost wished that, you know, this had been him because I think that that is the more interesting story. What is he hearing and saying inside?
Starting point is 00:52:21 And he also shared this with the vice president prior to making this resignation and making it public. Because he wanted to be on record, on record. And so then no Republican can hide and say, oh, I didn't see that. Everyone saw that. Everyone understands what's going on here. We were, and we were not taking advantage of by Israel. This is, yes, they were constantly shopping for this.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But this is what Donald Trump did because he needed a distraction, a distraction from DHS, a distraction from ICE, a distraction from the Epstein files, a distraction from the failing economy. and he's willing to put American lives at risk in exchange. And kudos to the rest of the world. And kudos to the American people who are saying, no, we don't believe you. We see with our own eyes what this is. And his own people, finally, they're starting to come forward. And Tulsi Gabbard is an example of not just what happens when people are incompetent,
Starting point is 00:53:26 but also what happens when people are compromised. when you find people who can't get jobs anywhere else, who can't have self-respect. Look at so many of the people who are the heads of his agencies. Many of them are people of ill-reputed. Well, listen, they ain't the brightest bulb in dark rooms. And speaking of that, Virginia Senator Mark Warner a challenge Tulsi Gabbard on,
Starting point is 00:53:53 why the hell was she in Atlanta when the FBI was picking up those ballots? listen. Director Gabbert, the whole country knows that you were recently involved in an FBI operation to seize ballots in Fulton County, Georgia. Yet this was despite the fact that the warrant showed no foreign interference or nexus. Matter of fact, the warrant was based entirely on conspiracy theories that have already been examined and rejected repeatedly. Now, where is the authority for you to investigate?
Starting point is 00:54:27 to involve yourself and a domestic law enforcement activity. Thank you, Vice Chairman. I appreciate the question. As you know, I've addressed every issue you've raised in detail in a letter, but I'm grateful for the opportunity to do it in this forum. As you stated, Congress provided by statute, ODNI, with the responsibility of election security and counterintelligence in 2021. As you also know, ODI and I has purview and oversight. I know the history very well, but could you just address the question. Odie and I also has purview and overview over two domestic-related agencies, the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, both of which have purview over election security responsibilities to ensure the integrity of our elections.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I want to correct one of your statements that you've made multiple times, which is false. I did not participate in a law enforcement activity, nor would I, because of you. that does not exist within my authorities. You were present on the scene. Are the photos of you on the scene? I was at Fulton County, sir, at the request of the president, and to work with the FBI to observe this action that had long been awaited. I was not aware of what was in the warrant or was not in the warrants.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And what was the president's specific request for you to go to, what was the specific request that was made by the president for you to show up in Fulton County? To go and observe the FBI's activities on this issue. When you look at the fort, your question is served. Do you have the answer why the president was knowing about this affidavit before it was even served? I'm not aware that the president knew about an affidavit before it was served. Then why was he sending you to Fulton County? This occurred the day that the FBI had it approved, their warrant approved by a local judge, and they began to execute this.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And... Oh, you just showed your ass up. I mean, come on. I mean, these people, again... are just unbelievable stupid when it comes to and they think we're stupid. Like they think we're nuts listening to them spew their nonsense. No, no, no, y'all are crazy. This ain't on us.
Starting point is 00:56:42 This is y'all. And so, okay, all right. So that was another hearing taking place, y'all. And these folks are- Bring it. Y'all, when I say it crazy, so... Mark Wayne Mullen is a complete imbecile. Mark Wayne Mullen, who's a senator from Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:57:11 who Donald Trump has picked to be his Department of Homeland Security Secretary. This fool here, y'all, was asked a number of things. and it got real chippy between him and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. And that's how things got kicked off. And when I say, get your popcorn. If you missed it, I hope y'all enjoy this. Good morning, everyone. I entered the Senate the same year that Representative Gabby Giffers was shot.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I knew then that the state of political rhetoric was encouraging violence. I think it's imperative now, more than ever, that the leaders in our country disavow violence and lead by example. Through the years, I've personally been exposed multiple times to political violence. I was in the right-field batting cage when the craze shooter unleashed nearly 200 shots at our congressional baseball practice. I'll never forget Steve's Calais valiantly dragging, trying to drag his body away. as the gunman continued.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Later that year, a Trump-hating felon attacked me from behind in my yard. I was just straightening up from picking up a tree limb. I was wearing noise cancellation headphones. Never saw him coming. Running pell-mell down the hill.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I was struck in the back. The force of the blows sent us through the air nearly 10 feet, down the hill until his shoulder impaled me as we hit the ground. Six of my ribs were broken. Three of the ribs were completely separated such that for weeks, the ends of the ribs would grind upon each other. My lung was damaged.
Starting point is 00:59:06 For weeks, I could inhale, but not have the rib strength to exhale. I developed two pneumonia's. The pain was such that I could only sit up in bed by tying a rope to the foot of the bed and pulling myself up. But even then, the pain was that of a thousand knives. Over the year of recovery, I began to cough up blood. I ended removal of part of my lung. Complications led to an infection in the space between my lung and chest wall.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I spent a week in the hospital having the infection lavaged every six hours through a chest tube. Recently, Senator Mullen, if you have time to listen, you were confronted by constituents that were angry because you voted against my amendment to stop all funding for refugee welfare programs.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Instead of explaining your vote to continue these relevant, welfare programs for refugees, you decided to transfer the blame. You told the media that I was a freaking snake and that you completely understood why I had been assaulted. I was shocked that it would justify and celebrate this violent assault. That caused me so much pain and my family so much pain. I just wonder if someone who applauds violence against their political opponents
Starting point is 01:00:19 is the right person to lead an agency that has struggled to accept limits to the proper use of force. You might argue you were mad and upset about being confronted by your constituents. But Senator Mulling, your constituents are justifiably upset with you. By now, most of America knows that the Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota stole over $9 billion. But instead of defending your vote, you took to continue, the vote to continue these refugee welfare programs, you chose to lash out at me. You went on to brag that you'd already told me to my my face that you completely understood and approved of the assault.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Well, that's a lie. You got a chance today. You can either continue to lie or you can correct the record. You have never had the courage to look me in the eye and tell me that the assault was justified. So today you'll have your chance. Today I'll give you that chance to clear the record. Tell it to my face. If that's what you believe, tell it to me today.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Tell the world why you believe I deserve to be assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damaged lung. Tell me to my face why you think I deserved it. And while you're at it, explain to the American public why they should trust a man with anger issues to set the proper example for ICE and Border Patrol agents. Explain to the American public how a man who has no regrets about brawling in a Senate committee can set a proper example for over 250,000 men and women
Starting point is 01:01:48 who work at the Department of Homeland Security. Senator Peters, you're recognized for your opening comment. Well, thank you, Chairman Paul. Department of Homeland Security has the mandates. That was hilarious. And they were, I mean, they were going at it. And old boy was like, no, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I don't really give a damn what you got to say. In fact, listen to this. Any kind of self-awareness that you're going to be leading thousands of men and women who will be, have the, the use of force and there's been great questions in our country about how that will be used. And you think a violent attack is just fine. So I guess my first question is, do you think that justifying that kind of violence sets a good example for the men and women of ICE and border patrol?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Mr. Chairman, first of all, I didn't know the exeter your damage. When the phone call was made, I made it to you and I tried to talk to you. You didn't engage at all. In fact, you said, get your paperwork in. It's got to be in three days in between. You offer no apology. Sir. And you offer no apology today and no regrets.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Haven't heard the word apologize, haven't heard the word regret, haven't heard I misspoke and it was heated and I made a mistake. I haven't heard any of those words. Sir, actually it wasn't heated and I'm not apologizing for pointing out your character. Good. So you're jolly well fine and you went to American public and the people up here to vote that may or may not vote for you to know that you supported the felonious violence. attack on me from behind. I did not say I supported it. I said I understood it. There's a difference. So that means you really didn't approve of it, just completely understand it. What do you think most people would interpret completely understand to be support for or a condemnation of the violence?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Sir, as I said, we can have our differences. It's not going to keep me from doing my job as Secretary of Homeland Security. I'm going to secure Kentucky and take care of Kentucky as much as I am. If this were a one-off, it would be one thing. If you just disliked me so much that you approved of vans against me, people could just write it off, or maybe they hate each other. But really, there's a pattern of this. Let's go ahead. Y'all, they would just, it was, bro, they were just going at it.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And Rand Paul was just sitting here, just slanging and banging. But then also, this guy's also a liar. and because watch this and so Senator Gary Peters of Michigan challenged him about lying about foreign travel
Starting point is 01:04:34 other than on vacations with your family have you ever traveled to a foreign country no you've never traveled to a foreign country outside of vacation or mission work no okay have you
Starting point is 01:04:53 your FBI report does show some travel. I think it was to Georgia and Azerbaijan. You mark that that was not for tourists. Are you referring to August of 2021 when we went to go get the Americans out of Afghanistan? I'm just saying that's what that travel was for, which we did we did so you have you have traveled. So you've traveled to Azerbaijan and Georgia. That was in your FBI report, although you just said you've never traveled. Sir, we were I thought you was referring to a different time, but in 20, In 2021, it was well documented.
Starting point is 01:05:32 In fact, it was all over the news. And I actually did say that, and we put that down on the report. But that was us, which was all over the news, trying to go with an extremely experienced team. I've got other questions. Thank you. So you have to travel overseas despite your previous country. Like, no, answer the question. Yes or no.
Starting point is 01:05:54 This guy, this is also the guy, Brian, who challenged the team's president. to a fight. Yep, I remember that. I remember covering that, and this is the guy who should be leading DHS. Listen, I thought Christy Noem was the worst, and she was. But I can't believe I'm about to say this. I actually think Mark Wayne Mullen is worse. The guy has no life experience.
Starting point is 01:06:18 As you just mentioned, he challenged somebody to a fight in the chambers. This is the guy who acted like the coward that he is on January 6th, if you recall. This is what's even worse, Roland. He was asked multiple times today. Who won the 2020 election? Who won a free and fair election in 2020? Couldn't answer that. Only he said was, well, Joe Biden was sworn in.
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Starting point is 01:10:19 It is an actual Polish saying It is an actual Polish saying It is an actual point Better version of play stupid games Win stupid prizes Yes Which by the way wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. And we know there is a lot of news coming at you these days from the war with Iran to the ongoing Epstein fallout, government shutdowns, high profile trials, and what the hell is that Blake lively thing about anyway? We are on it every day, all day. Follow us, Amy and TJ, for news. updates throughout the day. Listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I can't even say with a straight face that Joe Biden won a free and fair election, and this is the guy that's going to be leading. I mean, this is embarrassing. The only life experience that this guy has, and listen, I don't have respect for blue collar workers and for plumbers. This isn't a knock on plumbers. But the only thing this guy has ever done in his life with little
Starting point is 01:11:26 education is take over his dad's plumbing business. And this is the guy that we could be listening to about foreign policy on Fox News. This is a guy who's going to be leading 450,000 people. This is a joke. I have a feeling that Rand Paul probably won't be voting for him. I rarely ever, you know, agree with Rand Paul on a lot of different issues. But certainly I agree with him here. The guy was, was beaten to a pulp.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And you have Mark Wayne Mullen who won't even apologize. I understand. This is the type of rhetoric that got us into. January 6th. I understand why people did that. I understand why they were so upset. I understand why they beat police officers with their own batons. Hostages, patriots, I just cannot believe that these are the people that are going to be in these powerful positions. I don't even know how this guy got elected to begin with. There's one of the idiots who voted for this guy. I'm sorry. I don't know how anybody like this can get elected. And I'm going to give this guy the award
Starting point is 01:12:24 for maybe the dumbest person in Washington, D.C. There are people that are smart people that are bad people. And then there are people like Mark Wayne Mullen, who are bad people and extremely dumb. He is an extremely stupid individual, and he's a liar, and I think he's actually more dangerous to this country in this position than even
Starting point is 01:12:43 Christy Knoem was. That's my personal opinion, and I can't believe I'm saying that, but that's how I feel. Remember, Mark Wayne Mullen is also y'all remember this happened here. Go to my iPad when Congressman Al Green held up the sign that was Mullen who was trying to snatch it from him and they had words.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So that happened right there. Which is a violent act. He's got anger issues. Right. He has anger issues. That was a violent act, right? He created apprehension in Congressman Green. He tried to physically take something away from him. That is not behavior that we want in anyone in a position of power. It's okay to have passion.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Violence is totally unacceptable. Again, I agree with my co-panelist here. Not a big Rand Paul fan. definitely don't think he should have been attacked in any way, shape, or form that a member of his own party, and really any member of the Senate and leader, would go out there and tell others that they understood why he was attacked. We expect our leaders to rise to another level and say, you know what, no, we don't believe in violence, political or any other kind. That's never acceptable. And then when given an opportunity to, because people do, Rand Paul can be infuriate.
Starting point is 01:13:58 people do make mistakes. Then you corrected. You say, you know what? That was crazy. That I misspoke. I apologize. And a real man always can apologize. What I don't understand about these people is that they don't seem incapable of maturity.
Starting point is 01:14:15 A mature person understands how to get themselves out of a bad situation, even one where they're asked an awkward question about their boss and whether you won the election. The answer is, yes, he did. he lost the other guy won. He was, you know, we're moving on from that. Furthermore, the most concerning thing about the whole hearing for me was not these political, you know, hijinks. It was that he did not make any commitments to make any significant policy changes to ICE. This is a problem.
Starting point is 01:14:46 He seemed to be focused on getting ice out of the news, but that's not what we're looking for. It's not just getting ice out of the news. It's improving the way ICE is in force. enforcing immigration in this country. Well, bomb line is unacceptable. Bomb line is what we're dealing with here is another nut case and listen, they're at home in this administration. All right,
Starting point is 01:15:07 got to go to a break. We come back. Lots to talk about y'all, I cannot wait to talk about this Afro-Man defamation case. Oh, the videos are amazing and a decision has been rendered in the case. I'll tell you about that.
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Starting point is 01:17:19 Don't miss it Thursdays only on the Black Star Network. Hi, I'm Swain Cash, Basketball Hall of Famer, and you're watching Black Star Network. Folks, Illinois, the lieutenant governor Julianne Stratton has won the Democratic Premier for an open U.S. Senate seat if elected, she would become just the six black woman in the United States Senate of history in the fourth African-American
Starting point is 01:17:52 Illinois. Three of those were elected. She was backed early by Governor J.B. Pritzker. She beat out two city members of the U.S. House to advance to the November general election against Republican nominee, Don Tracy, the former State Party chair, in a very, very blue state. To stand before you tonight
Starting point is 01:18:20 as your Democrat to the pe- She was opening after a long time Senator Dick Durbin decide to not seek re-election. All right, I just love when folks just go ahead
Starting point is 01:18:53 and just say what's on their mind. Tennessee Democratic State Senator Charlene Oliver, man, does she go there? She's putting her own party on notice. So, y'all Oliver took to her social media to blast
Starting point is 01:19:06 fellow Democratic State Representative Beau Mitchell after he supported blocking her bill. The bill was the Homes Not Hedge Funds Act. It died in a House subcommittee after Representative Bo Mitchell refused to second the motion. While Mitchell called the measure Trumpian in nature, Oliver, who had already secured bipartisan support in the Senate,
Starting point is 01:19:30 says he killed the bill because he was petty. Okay. Here is the post. She posts this on Facebook as well as on an Instagram page. She got right to the point. Fuck you, Bo Mitchell. That's a quote. That is a quote.
Starting point is 01:19:51 She was there. Senator Oliver, y'all, we have Senator Oliver. All right. Senator Oliver? Well, you dispensed of all niceties. There's nothing nice about what the world we're living here right now. So I don't have time for the games. And I don't care if you're,
Starting point is 01:20:14 Republican and Democrat. There are people in my district across Tennessee who are begging for something like this, a bill like this to pass. Affordable Housing is a real crisis in Nashville where I represent. I represent a district that is cost burdened by rent. And Bill Mitchell, my colleague, Democratic colleague, blocked progress. And so what's crazy to me is, so first of all, so explaining people what this bill would have done. Yes, so the Homes Not Hedge Funds Act would have limited Wall Street corporate investors from buying up the supply of single family homes in the largest counties in our state.
Starting point is 01:21:04 It would have limited them to no more than 100 single family homes that they can purchase. and rent out. Therefore, helping homeowners get a fair shot at purchasing a home because what's happening is inflation is going through the roof because our residents are getting outbed by these corporate investors that are out of state driving up the home prices. And so this would have been an affordable housing bill that gave more opportunity to first-time home buyers. And it was bipartisan support. Yes, there was an executive order that, came out by the White House, but I've been running this bill since last year well before the White House got on board with this idea. And so we were trying to answer a mandate from our
Starting point is 01:21:52 constituents to bring down prices in the market. And you said you had bipartisan support? Yes. So I was the author of this legislation. I ran it in the Senate. And to my surprise, my colleagues did enjoy this legislation and voted it with only one Democrat, excuse me, one Republican not voting for it. It almost passed nearly unanimously on the Senate floor last week. So for my colleague, my own Democratic colleague to kneecap me was something I just wasn't expecting. And so I needed to give him a response that he wasn't going to expect. So, okay, so he didn't second it. Was he the only other Democrat? Could somebody else have seconded in the motion? So, you know, there are these unspoken rules that we have in our legislature. First of all,
Starting point is 01:22:47 we are in the South. I don't think people realize how hard it is to pass legislation in a super minority position. We are in the Tennessee legislature. There are only six Democrats in the Senate. There are only 24 in the House. So to have two Democrats on one committee is a miracle to begin with. So when a Democrat doesn't second your bill, they are setting you up for failure. It is something that you just are supposed to do is give your
Starting point is 01:23:17 colleagues the courtesy to second the motion to give an opportunity to be heard. Representative Boe Mitchell didn't do that for me. And so yes, he was the only, there were only two Democrats on the Cities and County subcommittee in the House. Representative Dixie,
Starting point is 01:23:32 Vincent Dixie motioned the bill and he was supposed to second it. Could a Republican have seconded it? Sure. But in this climate, it is customary for Democrats to stick together and stay united. He didn't do that. How have fellow Democrats responded? They stand with you?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Almost nearly the entire state has stood with me. And it's very clear that this was done out of spite. It was done out of pettiness. I don't know if it's because the two sponsors are women. I don't know if it's because the two sponsors worked on a congressional primary last year in which he also ran for a congressional seat and he lost. But it was very clear. This, his actions were not about the merits of the bill. My colleagues have supported me.
Starting point is 01:24:25 In fact, my colleagues, my Democratic colleagues helped to work to try to get this bill passed under another legislative caption. And so we're still working on that. but, you know, the response has been overwhelmingly on my side. People saw this for what it was. You just don't do that. Bo Mitchell broke the code. If we're talking in street language, he broke the code. And that's just one of those cardinal scenes you just don't do,
Starting point is 01:24:51 especially to another fellow Democrat. So this just speaks to, like, you know, I would compare this to the John Federman in Congress. He's the John Federman of Tennessee, because we have people in our party. It's clear that he is not working in the best interest of the people, but he's working in the best interests of his donors. He takes a lot of money from developers.
Starting point is 01:25:16 He takes a lot of money from predatory lenders. And it needs to be called into question whether he is truly a Democrat. Questions for the panel, Joy, you first. Yes, I mean, this is really unbelievable. Okay, so I'm going to be honest. Woo, that language was a lot for me. But, you know, sometimes you have to match energy. And what he did was definitely unheard of, right?
Starting point is 01:25:42 It was not something that we expect, especially on a small, you know, you all are supposed to be close-knit. So I'm so glad that you put that in context. You know, what are the next steps for you? And also, what is the state Democratic Party saying about whether they can support him going forward? Because didn't he run for Congress? He did run for Congress, and that should have been a sign right there. He didn't make it out of the primary that he is not the candidate or the type of leader that Tennessee needs or wants. So in terms of next steps, I will be working when we are out of legislative session to make sure that his district has better representation.
Starting point is 01:26:25 You know, I've heard from a lot of his constituents that he is not the person that they thought he was. and I'm going to keep fighting. My colleagues are supporting me to try to get legislation through, so I'm going to keep working at that before we end session this year. We're on our second year, which means any bills that don't make it out of a session this year. You have to start over from scratch next year because we're in a two-year cycle. And I think context is very important here. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:26:58 You can look at what I posted and say, oh, it was full. Oh, my gosh, what she did was out of the norm. But if you knew anything about Representative Bo Mitchell, you would know that he deserved. Yes. He has been like this for years, and he just got the wrong one on the right day. And he has treated numerous of my Democratic colleagues like this. In fact, this is not the first bill that he killed of mine this year by not seconding the motion. So this is a pattern of behavior.
Starting point is 01:27:33 This is not an isolated incident. And a lot of people in this building knows that and thanked me for what I did. Ryan? First of all, yeah, I just want to say I have no problem with the way you responded. If anybody has seen any of my videos on social media, when I get into it with MAGA Republicans, I match their energy sometimes. I think sometimes we have to do that, right? And I love Michelle Obama.
Starting point is 01:27:59 She's such a wonderful human being, but that was a different time when she said, when they go low, we go high. What's amazing to me is I feel like this type of behavior, usually you expect that from mega Republicans. You normally wouldn't expect that from a Democrat. That's what's even more shocking to me, but I wanted to ask you, I feel like in politics in general, I feel like sometimes these people treat women different than men. They talk differently to them. They speak differently to them. And I wanted to ask you about that. What are your thoughts on that?
Starting point is 01:28:27 Do you think if you look differently, if you were a different gender that you would have been treated differently? You know, dare I say, yeah, absolutely. Like I said, it's hard enough just being a Democrat up here, but being a young, black woman who is in the minority is even harder. The things that I have to navigate just to get a bill passed, and I have passed legislation, but just to pass legislation, let alone legislation that was bipartisan. and transformative for our districts is even harder. And so had I been a white man, yes, there's a good old boys club up here. I'm not in that club. So I have to work three times harder, if more, just to navigate the spaces and places
Starting point is 01:29:14 in this building to get legislation passed. So, and yes, Bo Mitchell is in that good old boys club, and that's how he acts. I'm not ashamed to call him out here on how his behavior has been detrimental to our party. He has worked against multiple women to be successful. Like I said, he's upset that he lost to a woman in the primary. And yeah, it would be differently probably if I looked like him. He's a misogynist. It just sounds like he's a misogynist. And it's really sad that any woman would even vote for somebody like this. I mean, I say that a lot about Donald Trump. And from what I hear from this guy, I would say the same about him too. I don't know how any woman
Starting point is 01:29:56 could vote for something like that. But I'm glad you're standing up for yourself because how are you going to defend your constituents? First, you have to defend yourself. And you've clearly done that. So I think that's a good thing, you know. Yes. And like, let me just say, like, it is the world we're living in. We're fighting, you know, endless wars.
Starting point is 01:30:16 You know, people can't get health care. We have people who can't afford groceries. Like, people are going through real things right now. We don't have time for this petty BS. We just don't have time for it. And so we're right enough. So. Yeah, you're so right.
Starting point is 01:30:34 All right then. All right. Senator Oliver, we appreciate it. Thanks so much. Keep swinging. Thank you. Folks, quick break. Man, we come back.
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Starting point is 01:32:52 All right, folks, Tava Black Star Network headlines with Brittany Noble. NBA legend, Shaquille O'Neill has pledged to cover the funeral expenses for 12-year-old Jada West. You may recall that we reported on this story on Tuesday. Jada was trying. tragically injured in a violent school bus incident that garnered national attention. According to police, a fight broke out between Jada and another student from Mason Creek Middle School at an intersection near her home on the afternoon of Thursday, March 5th. Her death is currently being investigated by police in suburban Villa Rica, located 30 miles west of Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:33:35 The Douglas County Sheriff's Office stated that O'Neill learned about Jada's story through media reports and express his condolences, saying, this story touched my heart the moment I saw it in the media. And as a father, my heart goes out to Jada's family. No parent should ever have to bury their child. And if there's anything I can do to ease even a small part of that burden, then it is the right thing to do. Well, a video recorded during a school game in Southwest Virginia
Starting point is 01:34:04 has sparked outrage online after two white middle school students from the visiting team were seen waving. Iris Palmer and my new podcast is called Against All Odds and that's exactly what the show is about doing whatever it takes to be thoughts. Get ready to hear from some of your favorite entrepreneurs and entertainers as they share stories about defying expectations, overcoming barriers and breaking generational patterns. I'm talking to people like award-winning actress, producer, and director, Eva Langoria. I think I had like $200 in my savings account and my mom goes, what are you going to do? And I was like, I'll figure it out. We got a one-bedroom apartment for like $400 a month, and we all could not afford.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Like, I was like, how am I going to make $100 a month? I'm opening up like I've never before. For those of you who think you know me from what you've seen on social media, get ready to see a whole new side of me. Listen to Against All Odds with Iris Palmer as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of IHeartMedia, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, stories from the
Starting point is 01:35:13 frontiers of marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing. I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This season on Math and Magic, I'm talking to CEO of Liquid Death Mike Cesario, financier and public health advocate Mike Milken, Take-Two interactive CEO Strauss-Zellning. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes, then you can't play in this business. Sesame Street CEO Sherry Weston and our own chief business officer, Lisa Coffey.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Making consumers see the value of the human voice and to have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it rise to the top. Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you could try. podcast. I'm Anna Navarro, and on my new podcast, Bleep with Anna Navarro. I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now, we are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on. I'm talking to people like Julie K. Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades. For decades, and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration.
Starting point is 01:36:43 The Justice Department through, I think we counted four presidential administrations, failed these victims. Listen to Bleep with Anna Navarro as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll show, we're not afraid to make mistakes. What Kugler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Who do you think he is? I don't know. You meet the president? You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president. Does law a russet. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. Yeah. It is an actual Polish saying.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. And we know there is a lot of news coming at you these days from the war with Iran to the ongoing Epstein fallout, government shutdowns, high-profile trials, and what the hell is that Blake lively thing about anyway?
Starting point is 01:38:21 We are on it every day, all day. Follow us, Amy and T.J. for news updates throughout the day. Listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. in the stands. The student who shared the video on TikTok noted that the host school, where the game took place, is predominantly black and serves students from around the world, including many from African countries. The visiting school is believed to be Hurley Elementary Middle School, whose team is called the Rebels, and their mascot features the Confederate flag. Historically, the Confederate flag is associated with the Southern states that fought to preserve
Starting point is 01:39:04 slavery during the Civil War. It's also linked to racial segregation and resistance to civil rights during the 20th century. Black-owned whiskey brand Uncle Nearest founded by Fawn and Keith Weaver has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in Tennessee to restructure its debt and end a court-ordered receivership. At the same time, the Weavers have sued their lender Farm Credit Mid-America in New York for defamation, alleging the bank has engaged. in a smear campaign falsely suggesting insolvency and missing inventory, which they argue has harmed the brand's reputation. The lawsuit further accuses the bank of trade libel and tortilla's interference, alleging that it spread false information regarding missing inventory and financial misconduct. The legal conflict arises from Farm Credit July 2025 claims that Uncle Nearest
Starting point is 01:40:06 defaulted on more than $100 million in loans and overvalued its inventory by $21 million. Well, Fawn Weaver asserts that the company's estimated enterprise value is worth $529 million, refuting claims of insolvency. Additionally, she announced that the receivership mandated during the dispute, but the lender has now been terminated. According to the business journals, the bankruptcy filing aims to resolve issues related to the $102.5 million balance on the loan. The United States Postal Service is warning that it could run out of cash as early as next year.
Starting point is 01:40:48 In an interview with the Associated Press, the Postmaster General David Steiner, indicated that the agency may not have enough money to pay employees or vendors by February of 2027 unless changes are made. The Postal Service, which does not rely on tax dollars, has been operating, a loss for years borrowing millions of dollars to remain operational. Steiner is urging Congress to raise the borrowing limit and allow higher postage rates, including increasing the cost of first-class stamps from 78 cents to 95 cents. He's expected to testify before Congress later this month. Philanthropist McKenzie Scott donates $42 million to North Carolina's historically Black University,
Starting point is 01:41:32 Elizabeth City State University, school chancellor S. Keith Hardgrove Senior announced that generous gift at the Founders Day Convocation, multi-billionaire philanthropist got to break records for the largest donations to historically HBCUs around the country. Her recent contributions will fund scholarships,
Starting point is 01:41:51 campus improvements, and the Ascent 2030 Strategic Plan. As a smaller HBCU, the donation provides significant resources to support student success and institutional growth. Scott's combined donations to HBCUs exceeds $1.2 billion.
Starting point is 01:42:11 All right, folks, be sure to watch the breakdown with Brittany Noble every day on the Black Star Network at noon Eastern. That's right, noon Eastern right here on the Black Star Network. All right, y'all, this next story
Starting point is 01:42:21 is absolutely hilarious. The rapper Afro-Man, best known for the song, because I got high. It's been in an Ohio courtroom this week after Sheriff's deputies sued him for making a set of songs mocking them. It all started when deputies raided Afro Man's home in August of 2022.
Starting point is 01:42:43 During the raid, deputies broke through Afro Man's front gate, busted down his front door. Police said they were searching for narcotics, but no charges were ever filed. Well, the rapper said, I'm going to pay y'all asses back. So he used the video footage from the raid and a music video for two songs. One call, will you help me repair my door? And another one called Lemon Pound Cake. A reference to the fact that one of the cops
Starting point is 01:43:14 was caught on a camera glancing at a cake in his kitchen during the raid. Let's just go ahead and roll the videos. The Adams County Sheriff kicked down my door. Then I heard the glass spray. No kidnapping victims Just some lemon pound cake
Starting point is 01:43:40 Mama's lemon pound It tastes on now Made the sheriff want to put down his gun And cut him a slice Of what? Of what? Limit pound cake He wanna put down his gloat
Starting point is 01:44:04 Trending on TikTok Limit pound cake He's a family guy Limit pound cake Munchies because he got hot limit pound cake he's a Adams County sheriff Randy Walters is the son of a bitch that's why I fuck his wife and got filthy rich The kid. Kids and your woman, white supremacist.
Starting point is 01:45:33 All my premises. What is this? A racist, feminist. Why you're disconnected my video camera. Why you disconnected my video camera? Why you're disconnected my video camera? We ought to throw crooked cops in the slammer. Why you're disconnected my video camera?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Why you disconnected my video camera? As much as you. But why kidnapping me? The summary is hilarious. I want you to listen to this right here. Sean, you were called Officer Poundcake by Mr. Foreman? Multiple times. You received hundreds of pound cakes that work from different people.
Starting point is 01:47:57 And the context of that name comes from a music video that Mr. Forman created, correct? I don't know where he got it at, but you'd have to ask him that question. So they were on that stand crying. Okay, and this is the Adams County Sheriff. Now, y'all, here's the problem, y'all. This happened in Ohio. So the Adams County Sheriff in Colorado, they were like, you know what, we need to get in on this too. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:48:37 So some of you have heard, most of you haven't. Adams County Sheriff's Office in Ohio and Aframan are in litigation with each other. We know some of you've heard it, though. So we want to provide you a quick geography lesson. We are the Adams County Sheriff's Office in Colorado. They are the Adams County Sheriff's Office in Ohio. So before you start sending us messages, calling us, emailing us, DMing us, you may want to Google it.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Y'all, everybody's clowning their asses. Hold on. We got some other, um, okay, watch this. Go. Dipship refers to, please. I'm sorry? What private fact of yours does that refer to it? I mean, there's a picture of me and let's see here, talking about, see, I wouldn't trust him with methamphetamine crack ass alone in my house.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I find that pretty insulting. So that's the, that statement is what you're saying? Well, no. I told you this is one of many. You keep, you keep trying to make it singular. I'm telling you it's not singular, it's plural. One is receding hairline. Yep.
Starting point is 01:50:11 And the other is methods. Yes. Is there any more? Well, when he sat in there making accusations against the organization that I at that time was working for, destroying community trust all based off of a lie, that's what ultimately stopped. And that's community trust in the Adams County Sheriff's Department, correct? Yes. Okay. Oh, hold up, y'all.
Starting point is 01:50:36 I got some other ones. Let's see here. Let's see here. I got to play some more, y'all, because this is, I mean, y'all, when I say this is funny, as hell. Oh my God, it was utterly hilarious. Listening, um, okay, listen to this one here. In my entire career? I never had anything until this came about. Not cold me. Not being a thief and your wife was charged with that? No. When your wife pled guilty to stealing from her injunction? Tell me why you would do that to the jury.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Your Honor, I would ask, why would you that to the jury? Your Honor, I'm asking a question that builds on his reputation. He says he's never been called a thief before, yet he keeps saying that everybody treats him differently. This goes to his reputation. He is used to this. This has happened before. To say that this is the only thing caused him probably has ever heard his reputation, he's opening up the door so that I can ask the question about what's affecting his reputation. See it.
Starting point is 01:51:42 So I'm going to allow this so you can see how it does or does not affect him alone. Just don't get caught up that your spouse. character is your character because it's not. So the restate the question is two-step, your wife did steal from our employer, correct? Yes. And it was a felony sum of money, correct? Yes. Which is over $1,000.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yes. And you were part of the search of Mr. Forms residence, correct? Yes. Did you ever have any contact with the money? I noticed money in a coat pocket and I pointed it out to Detective Newland. And is that the money that Mr. Newman testified earlier that was upstairs? That should have been some of it, yes. I didn't do the collection of it.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Oh, my God. Okay, y'all. All right. So I got to play, uh, hold on, which one is this one? Roll this. Called Officer Poundcake by Mr. Foreman? Multiple times. You all hundreds of pound cakes that work from different people.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Okay. And the context of that... I just had to play the pound cake one again. Okay. All right. So, let's see here. Do you have any more? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. 30 years. Got into the mind. The kids pretty well. Yes. When they would play Mr. Foreman's song, Lemon Poundcake, did they take that as a literal fact from your observations?
Starting point is 01:53:36 No. Were they laughing and joking about it? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Are you familiar with the song W-A-P? I think I've heard it. I'm going to give you the complete song and then summarize it because I don't want to say it once. Are you familiar with the song Wet-Ass Pussy?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Yes. Is that a rap song? It is. Has your students played in class? Once, then I asked them to please turn it off. When they were listening to it, did they think that was fact? No. So they didn't think that that was depicting anything in real life?
Starting point is 01:54:20 No. So you didn't have to teach him that wasn't real? Right, no, I did not. You've heard the song, correct? Mm-hmm, yes. Do you believe it's a literal interpretation? No. Would you agree it's derogatory towards women?
Starting point is 01:54:44 No. Even though it says nasty things about it? Yeah, no, I mean, it's the artist's opinion, I guess. That's the way I feel. Maybe not an opinion you like, but... Yeah. Ms. Grimm's, has Mr. Foreman's posts about Sean or any of the general posts about the Adams County Sheriff's Department as a whole affected your life any and all? No.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Would you believe it would have affected your life while you were married to Sean? If it had any effect, I guess that would be the time it would have an effect. But as his spouse, you would have expected? Yes. I want you to go to too many. But is it fair to say that Mr. Foreman and the point? posts about the police department, everything had not a damn thing to do with your relationship between you and Sean.
Starting point is 01:55:38 No. No, it did not. So the posts never affected your online. My man, is like, uh, is there any truth to if WAP is real? She was like, well, okay. All right. Um, they had some closing arguments. And, uh, this is what, uh, the cop's attorney, uh, let me,
Starting point is 01:56:10 find it said in the closing arguments. Let me go ahead and play this y'all. Listen. Play it. All right. Not sure why we get an audio because I got audio up. So he said, he was like, he posted that Lisa Phillips likes to have sex with other women. And if y'all ruling his favor, this is just going to be wrong. It's just going to be wrong. It's going to be wrong.
Starting point is 01:56:58 And this was the closing arguments of Afro-Man's attorney. guys what all right sorry okay so okay fine plate a verdict in all circumstances the jury finds in favor of the defendant no plaintiff verdict prevailed so the matter will be concluded with defense verdicts thank you mr clingler thank you mr osborne thank you to the court staff and the sheriff's department for security in the building and we'll go ahead and stand in a tournament You're welcome So they sued for defamation Afro man was like, yo,
Starting point is 01:57:50 I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna sit here and wear this United States flag suit because he was filing for the First Amendment. No lawsuit. Okay, so let's do this right here. So let's, I'm gonna get ready to play this here.
Starting point is 01:58:05 So here's some of what Afro man had to say when he took the stand. No, I posted it because the sheriff's never supposed to raided my house in the first place. The whole raid was a mistake. All of this is their fault. If they hadn't a wrongly raided my house,
Starting point is 01:58:20 there would be no lawsuit. I would not know their names. They wouldn't be on my body, they wouldn't be on my home surveillance system and there would be no songs, nothing. My money would still be intact, nothing. So all of this is their fault. Iris Palmer and my new podcast is called Against All Odds and that's exactly what the show is about doing whatever it takes to be thoughts.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Get ready to hear from some of your favorite entrepreneurs and entertainers as they share stories about defying expectations, overcoming barriers and breaking generational patterns. I'm talking to people like award-winning actress, producer, and director, Eva Longoria. I think I had like $200 in my savings account and my mom goes, what are you going to do? And I was like, I'll figure it out. We got a one-bedroom apartment for like $400 a month, and we all could not afford. Like, I was like, how am I going to make $100 a month? I'm opening up like I've never before. For those of you who think you know me from what you've seen on social media,
Starting point is 02:00:54 get ready to see a whole new side of me. Listen to Against All Odds with Iris Palmer as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of IHeartMedia, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing.
Starting point is 02:01:23 I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This season on Math and Magic, I'm talking to CEO of Liquid Death Mike Cesario, financier and public health advocate Mike Milken, Take-2 Interactive CEO Strauss-Zalnik. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes, then you can't play in this business. Sesame Street CEO Sherry Weston and her own chief business officer, Lisa Coffey. Making consumers see the value of the human voice and to have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it wise to the top. Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you could try. podcast. I'm Anna Navarro, and on my new podcast, Bleep with Anna Navarro, I'm talking to the people
Starting point is 02:02:13 closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now, we are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on. I'm talking to people like Julie K. Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades. And, and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration. The Justice Department through, I think we counted four presidential administrations, failed these victims. Listen to Bleep with Anna Navarro as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity,
Starting point is 02:03:11 the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll show, we're not afraid to make mistakes. What Kugler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You meet the president? You think Canada has a president?
Starting point is 02:03:32 You think China has a president? Does law a russet. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. What color is there? I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep.
Starting point is 02:03:47 It was a good one. I like that. It is an actual Polish saying. Yeah. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time.
Starting point is 02:03:58 I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. And we know there is a lot of news coming at you these days from the war with Iran to the ongoing Epstein fallout, government shutdowns, high-profile trials, and what the hell is that Blake lively thing about anyway? We are on it every day, all day. Follow us, Amy and T.J. for news updates throughout the day. Listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 02:04:34 They beat up our Epstein at the sheriff's station after I seen them running around my house with AR-15s. So that's why I brought the news and my attorney. So to make sure I got out of that place with my money. Yeah. You didn't bring the news because you already knew there was a miscount and you were going to make- I didn't know nothing about the miscount. I didn't know. I figured they stole my money.
Starting point is 02:05:50 They turned my cameras off. So if you turn my cameras off, you must got something bad in mind. So yeah, I'm accusing them of it. You know, they turned my cameras off. I can't see what they're doing. I'm accusing. Your testimony under oath here today to these 10 jurors is that you brought the news when you picked up your money to protect you physically from being beat up or shot by the sheriff's, right? Yes, and they volunteered the information that the money wasn't right.
Starting point is 02:06:21 That's just an extra something we found out. But I came with my attorney in the news to make sure the people running around my house with guns didn't take me in the jail and do something. Two of them. Two safes. Did the sheriffs look into those safes to your knowledge? Yes, they did. Yes. And how did they get the combination?
Starting point is 02:06:47 I gave it to my ex-wife so the sheriffs wouldn't pull my safe out the floor, take it to the station and put something in it and try to say that whatever they put in my safe was mine. So I went ahead and gave my ex-wife, who I didn't want to give my combination to, it was just safer. I went ahead and gave her my combination so they could open up the safe and realize that they just vandalized somebody that don't even have nothing in the safe. And do you know what was in those safes? It was absolutely nothing in the safes. Don't you keep jewelry in those safes? No, because... You told me that in your deposition that you keep jewelry in those safes? I do.
Starting point is 02:07:22 Was anything missing from the safes when you got home after the search? I didn't put nothing in the safes. Was anything missing from the safes when you got home? nothing was in him so nothing was missing from the safe he's like look I didn't want to give my ex-wife my combination y'all do y'all understand how hilarious this is I mean I'm talking about y'all they was crying straight up tears straight up tears
Starting point is 02:07:54 on the stand and so this here give me one second let me set it up This is Afro Man outside the courthouse after the judge ruled in his favor. I understand that digger had on a first. He had on a U.S. flag suit, a U.S. flag tie. He had some U.S. flag shades. I mean, he's straight. And a fresh manicure. Hey, my dog was like, hey, I'm letting y'all know.
Starting point is 02:08:39 This trial is about the First Amendment, Joy. Do we have our guess, we got our guess, bring up Attorney Nicole Robinson. Nicole, you there? I'm here. Hello. All right, so explain to, first of all, this was a defamation trial. So these cops were saying that Afro-Man defamed them by making these videos and using the actual footage from them storming his crib.
Starting point is 02:09:14 So explaining why the jury didn't buy that. Well, we all knew this was foolishness from the beginning. All of America knew that. But what it really likely came down to was whether this was a fact or opinion. Now, there are a lot of things that courts and juries will consider when they're determining whether or not something that someone said was an opinion. For example, the context of the statement, whether it was a joke, the specific language that the person used. But here we see that Afro-Man was talking about cartoon characters and sexuality.
Starting point is 02:09:49 None of that is fact. And even on the stand, they couldn't even say that those were facts. They all said that those were also opinions. So that's what he came down. So is it because he was so outlandish and so over the top and so outrageous? They're like, no one would think there's a factual basis for the crazy stuff that he said. Exactly. That was part of his artistic expression, creative expression. It was also social commentary. I mean, we saw the videos and the Instagram posts. We all knew that they were jokes. Even when they were on the stand, they couldn't say that these were true statements and true opinions that he was trying to convince people of. So you had seven Ohio deputies who were suing him. I
Starting point is 02:10:34 first of all well people have to recognize uh joy I would go to you first is that uh you know that was you know we were Al Yankovic
Starting point is 02:10:45 did these videos in fact Luther Campbell two live crew also as a part of this his case went to the Supreme Court and that and he won because the courts allowed for artists to make
Starting point is 02:10:59 parody songs or videos and that's essentially what Afro man was doing. Absolutely. And this is also the importance of having a good attorney. A good attorney is going to tell you, one, this is going to make matters worse for you, because what was something that none of us knew about is now something everyone knows about. And, you know, this is a rapper, an artist, exercising his First Amendment rights,
Starting point is 02:11:24 but also we give artists even morally way, right? And these are also police officers. Many of them, public figures, they were engaged in officials. Act. All of that is something that you consider. These are things that were recorded. They knew the cameras were there. You know, they're engaging. And we should all be able to watch what law enforcement is doing, especially in your home. So he was using footage. That was his. It was within his right to use. And so I can't imagine why they would have thought this would be successful. And it made them feel, you know, it was incredibly silly. You know, if I were advising Afro-Man, I would say leave people's wives alone. But for the rest, it was pitch perfect.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Nah, he was like, nah, I'm hitting everybody. First of all, Brian, I love this look right here. This reminded me when Michael Irving came in the court with that mint coat on. My man, my man got the white, he got the white mink with the U.S. flat. I mean, my man is, he, he, Brian, I just, I just. The tears, the lyrics, the video, oh my God, this was just perfect. And again, I have to remind people, he was standing saying, I have a First Amendment right to do this. He was saying that I am constitutionally protected.
Starting point is 02:12:52 Yeah, you're right. First of all, full disclosure, guys, I'm a huge Afro-Man fan. Because I got high is a cult classic, okay? It is a cult classic. I saw him in Vegas a few years ago. He's funny. He's a great entertainer. So maybe I'm a little biased.
Starting point is 02:13:07 That's number one. Number two, the joy I got from watching some of those, forgive me for saying this, ignorant white people on the stand and a woman crying, and she has to listen to an Afro-Man song, which is probably torture for her because she's an idiot. Watching her cry, maybe this makes me a bad person, but I kind of enjoyed that a little bit.
Starting point is 02:13:28 I don't know. I love the fact that he shows up in court with that outfit. I love the fact that outside the courtroom, there were fans of his that were out there cheering. And my question is, did taxpayer dollars have to go to those cops that hired attorneys for this defamation suit? Because I think those cops should have to pay for those attorneys, and it shouldn't be the taxpayer. That's my personal opinion. And they're the ones that screwed up in the first place. They should have never brought this defamation, you know, to the forefront.
Starting point is 02:14:00 So my question to you would be, did the taxpayers have to pay for those attorneys? No, I think that they were filing in their personal capacity. You know what? Okay, okay. I just got to play one more of these cops. I just got to play one more of one of these cops on the witness stand. Y'all check this out. Is it true that Mr. Foreman called you a hunchback?
Starting point is 02:14:23 Yes. And specifically compared you to Guzimodo? Yes. The Disney hero? I'm assuming that's it is. Quasimodo from the Disney movie, The Hunchback of another day? I've never watched it, so I don't know. So you would agree that when a person says that someone's a crooked defense attorney,
Starting point is 02:14:50 they're not meaning that like a vine, they're meaning that has an opinion, correct? Correct. Would you agree that if someone calls you a thief, it might be an opinion of this? Can be. Yeah. Same as if when people say crooked cops is just an opinion. Yeah. And so is your entire claim for false life you were called the thief?
Starting point is 02:15:22 Yes. You would agree that Mr. Foreman is an artist subject to exaggeration? I guess, yeah. And just for the sake of a stupid question, nobody would ever think you're quasi-modic the book, correct? I don't get it. and people think different things. I'm Nicole.
Starting point is 02:15:53 That attorney, just so we're clear, no one really thinks you're Quasimodo, huh? You got, I got to give it to the attorney for keeping a straight-ass face and asking these questions. No, he did
Starting point is 02:16:08 a great job, but he asked what needed to be asked. I mean, I don't even know how the officers thought they would be able to prove damages if they couldn't say that people thought that they were cartoon characters or quasi-modo or that their hair line was receding, they couldn't even express how they were actually harmed by the statements. So the attorney did a great job in asking these questions.
Starting point is 02:16:30 I, I, I, I'm just sitting here y'all, um, just laughing. I'm like, I, do you all understand how this one here still got me go? I saved hundreds of pound cakes at work from different people. And the context of that name comes from a music video that Mr. Forman created, correct? I don't know where he got it at, but he had to ask him that question. Well, I'm going to play what's marked Defense Exhibit D. I'd like you to watch this. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Oh, you guys drink cinema? Oh. Y'all know he can, what that, Pau, K? Oh, my. Can I just say, Roland, that woman that was up there crying, listening to his music, that's the way I look when I listen to country music or kid rock. I just, I just wanted to say that and have that. Can we talk, take a pause, the whole Wop conversation?
Starting point is 02:17:40 Oh. I mean, she seemed intrigued. No, I mean, that was, but that was, but that was some excellent lawring there, Nicole, by saying, so do you believe? believe that WAP it's true or not. Is it really wet? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:18:02 She was like everything a mental puzzle woman wants. Oh my God. That was hilarious. Yo, and she was the ex-wife of one of the cops. So she's like, yo, why am I here?
Starting point is 02:18:21 She's like, why am I here? Matter of fact, since, uh, since, um, uh, since, um, um, uh, joy was so intrigued. Let's hear that testimony again. 30 years. Got into the mind. The kids pretty well.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Yes. When they would play Mr. Foreman's song lemon pound cake, did they take that as a literal fact from your observations? No. Were they laughing and joking about it? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Are you familiar with the song W-A-P?
Starting point is 02:19:02 I think I've heard it. I'm going to give you the complete song and then summarize it because I don't want to say it was. Are you familiar with the song Wet-Ass Pussy? Yes. Is that a rap song? It is. Has your students played in class? Once, then I asked them to please turn it off.
Starting point is 02:19:26 When they were listening to it, did they think that was fact? No. So they didn't think that that was depicting anything? in real life? No. So you didn't have to teach him that wasn't real? Right. No, I did not. So, ma'am, you did not have to teach them that wasn't real? And I was just on that jury was like, well, I think it could be real. I wish you were real. Let me, oh, let me platter of it. You and she? Do you believe it's a literal interpretation?
Starting point is 02:20:18 No. Would you agree it's derogatory towards women? No. Even though it says nasty things about it? Yeah, no. I mean, it's the artist's opinion, I guess. That's the way I feel. Maybe not an opinion you like, but...
Starting point is 02:20:36 Yeah. Ms. Grimm's, has Mr. Foreman's posts about Sean or any of the general posts about the Adams County Sheriff's Department as a whole, affected your life any at all? No. Would you believe it would have affected your life, why you were married to Sean? If it had any effect, I guess that would be the time it would have an effect. But as his spouse, you would have expected?
Starting point is 02:21:04 Yes. I want you to go into too many details. But is it fair to say that Mr. Foreman and the Post about the police department, everything had not a damn thing to do with your relationship between you and Sean? No. No, it did not. So the Post never thought. affected your life, never affected your marriage.
Starting point is 02:21:27 No. So any statement to the contrary would be false? Yes. She was like, there was no whopping that marriage. All right. Um. Oh, my God. So, well, oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:21:59 So, okay, so Nicole, again. So for people to understand, this is why if you are a, if you're a singer or a, or rapper, you need to understand the law and how the law can save your ass when you drop, like we're used to diss songs and beefs and stuff along those lines. We got to understand what the law says when it comes to parodies. Exactly. And the good thing here is that police officers have limited protection when it comes to criticism. The Supreme Court has said over and over again that the American people deserve to know
Starting point is 02:22:38 what's going on, what police officers are doing. As we all know, they be running amok around this country sometimes. And I hate to give any deference to our founders, but this is the whole point of the First Amendment to allow people to criticize the government and arms of the government like police officers here. Well, Brian, and what was genius, he used the body cam and their surveillance footage from his cameras and from their cameras.
Starting point is 02:23:06 And he said, hey, that was my house. So it was his house. and that's public. I mean, those are police departments. Those are, that's public evidence. Perfectly legal. And he actually made a better music video because of doing that. It was actual real footage.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Artists do that all the time. They use real footage from different events and videos. This just so happened to be his own footage that he owns, you know. I'm Iris Palmer and my new podcast is called Against All Od. And that's exactly what the show is about doing what. whatever it takes to be thoughts. Get ready to hear from some of your favorite entrepreneurs and entertainers as they share stories about defying expectations, overcoming barriers, and breaking generational patterns.
Starting point is 02:23:51 I'm talking to people like award-winning actress, producer, and director, Eva Longoria. I think I had like $200 in my savings account, and my mom goes, what are you going to do? And I was like, I'll figure it out. We got a one-bedroom apartment for like $400 a month, and we all could not afford. I was like, how am I going to make $100 a month? I'm opening up like I've never before. For those of you who think you know me from what you've seen on social media, get ready to see a whole new side of me.
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Starting point is 02:27:08 It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. Yeah. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time.
Starting point is 02:27:19 I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. And we know there is a lot of news coming at you these days. days from the war with Iran to the ongoing Epstein fallout, government shutdowns, high-profile trials, and what the hell is that Blake lively thing about anyway?
Starting point is 02:27:44 We are on it every day, all day. Follow us, Amy and T.J. for news updates throughout the day. Listen to Amy and T.J. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. These police officers, they have their body camera on. They don't have their body camera on. Well, they couldn't do that this time. And I think it's great that he used this footage in his videos. it makes it more authentic. And I'm sorry that he had to go through this, by the way. That's not funny.
Starting point is 02:28:14 What's funny is the testimony and everything else. And his videos are hilarious. His lyrics are absolutely hilarious. And the fact that he's using actual real video and talking about pound cake and all these other stuff he's talking about. I just think it's so funny. And he's, that's why he's so popular. I'm glad he won. And what an embarrassment for those law enforcement officers.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Like how embarrassing would they have to go home? and tell their wives and tell their friends, oh, we lost. I mean, it's just, it's so stupid. But hey, in the long run, he won because this will make him even more popular and his music even more popular. And I love him more for it.
Starting point is 02:28:51 So he wins. Oh, hell yeah. We already, we already reached out to him. I gotta have him on the show. And I hope he wears that whole get up. So, Joey, I hope you've not been traumatized by today's segment. I was almost traumatized, but I have to say, The saddest part of this whole damn thing
Starting point is 02:29:11 is that these people vote. Oh, my goodness. There you go. Yep. There you go. Well, well, well. All right. Nicole Robinson, we appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:29:23 Thanks a lot. Joy, we appreciate it. Brian, thanks a lot. Y'all, oh, my God, this was wonderful. Don't forget, y'all, you all support the work that we do. See, y'all, ain't no other network going to have 40 minutes on the Afro-Man trial.
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Starting point is 02:29:57 That's awesome for credit cards. What are you doing, Joy? What are you doing? Joy over there. Joy over there, Joy, over there. Can I get a table dance? Can I get a table dance? Joy, what are you doing?
Starting point is 02:30:08 Oh, Lord, Joy is, we know what's going to be on her playlist when the show ends. All right. Check, check. Listen, I see, Nicole, this is your first time here. This is the black show, Nicole. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. And Brian, no, we got all the seasoning on this show.
Starting point is 02:30:26 Mm-hmm. I love it. I love it, man. I needed a good laugh, okay? I needed a good laugh. There's a lot of stressful stuff in the news. This was a fun 45 minutes. Probably the most fun I've had doing a show in a long time.
Starting point is 02:30:38 So thank you for that. I thank you, Rowland. It's very entertaining. I appreciate it. I appreciate it all three of you. Say it again, Joy. I'm going to go take my mother's calls. Yeah.
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