#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Social Security Plans, Biden's $30M Ads, Black Women Worries, ALS Diagnosis, Mike Brown Scholarship
Episode Date: March 12, 20243.11.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Social Security Plans, Biden's $30M Ads, Black Women Worries, ALS Diagnosis, Mike Brown Scholarship The presidential candidates are not waiting for an actual debate ...to discuss their Social Security and Medicare plans. One wants to make drastic cuts, and the other wants to make improvements. The Biden campaign launches a $30-million ad blitz. In our "Where's Our Money" segment, we'll discuss how much of those dollars should go to black-owned media companies. Housing Secretary Marcia Fudge says she's retiring. A recent poll conducted by HIT Strategies on behalf of Higher Heights for America reveals what issues concern black women the most ahead of the November elections. Glynda Carr, the President and CEO of Higher Heights, will be here to break down the numbers. In our Filt Live Win segment, we are looking at the disparities in diagnosing black people with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis or ALS. We'll talk to the communications director of I AM ALS will explain why advocating for your health regarding this fatal disease is essential. And it's nearly 10 years since Mike Brown was gunned down in the middle of a Ferguson, Missouri, street by a police officer. His mother will be here to share what she's doing to keep her son's memory alive. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Donald Trump wants to slash Social Security.
President Joe Biden hits him hard on that.
That would have a tremendous impact on black folks.
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First of all, those three PACs announce a $30 million blitz targeting minority voters.
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Now. So you remember last year's State of the Union
when President Joe Biden slammed Republicans
about cutting Social Security,
and they all said, oh, that's a lie,
even though they were all on tape
saying the exact same thing.
And then this year, he slammed them again,
and they booed again, and he was like,
um, so y'all not trying to cut Social Security?
Well, here's Donald Trump on CNBC today.
One thing that I think that at least the perception is that there's not a whole lot of difference between what you think we should do with entitlements or non-discretionary spending and what President Biden is proposing.
It's almost the third rail of politics. And
we've got a what, a thirty three, thirty four trillion dollar total debt built up and very
little we can do in terms of cutting spending. Discretionary is not going to help. Have you
changed your your outlook on how to handle entitlement, Social Security, Medicare,
Medicaid? Mr. President, it seems like something has to be done
or else we're going to be stuck at 120% of debt to GDP forever.
So first of all, there is a lot you can do in terms of entitlements,
in terms of cutting, and in terms of also the theft
and the bad management of entitlements,
tremendous bad management of entitlements, tremendous bad management of entitlements.
There's tremendous amounts of things and numbers of things you can do.
So I don't necessarily agree with the statement.
Well, guess what? The Biden folks did not waste time responding to Trump's call to cut entitlements such as Social Security and Medicaid.
Many of my Republican friends want to put Social Security and Medicare back on the chalking block again.
If anyone tries to cut Social Security and Medicare or raise the retirement age again, I will stop them.
Working people built this country.
They pay more into Social Security than millionaires and billionaires do.
It's not fair.
Folks, we have two ways to go at Social Security and Medicare.
Republicans will cut Social Security and Medicare to give us more tax cuts for the wealthy.
Even this morning, Donald Trump said cuts to Social Security and Medicare are on the table again.
When asked if he changed his position, he said, quote quote there's a lot you can do in terms of cutting tremendous amount of things you can cut. Maybe precisely tremendous amount of things you can do
not cut. He said I will and the bottom line is he's still at it. I'm never
gonna allow that to happen.
I won't cut Social Security.
I won't cut Medicare.
Instead of cutting Medicare and Medicaid and give tax breaks to the wealthy,
I will protect and strengthen Social Security and Medicare and make the wealthy begin to pay their fair share.
Dr. Julian Malveaux, economist and author out of D.C.,
joins us at the Omicongo Dabinga Senior Professorial Lecture,
School of International Service, American University of D.C. joins us. I'm a Congo Dabinga senior, professorial lecturer, School of International Service,
American University of D.C., Teresa Lundy.
Of course, principal founder of TML Communications out of Philadelphia.
Glad to have three of you here.
So, look, Julian, Republicans have long wanted to cut entitlements,
but here's the whole deal.
Black folks just don't depend upon those.
It's a whole bunch of white folks,
and so they can keep talking about that.
That is not going to go over well with the white folks in those red states.
And it damn sure is not going to go over well with black folks.
You know, Roland, more than 50 percent of retirees have Social Security as their only source of retirement income, the only source of their
retirement income. And so when you start talking about cutting, they've done two things. Number
one, they've raised the retirement age. So it used to be 65. Now it's 66 and change, like 66
in months, and it's going to keep going up.
That's number one.
Now, that's okay for folks like you and me and the panel.
You know, we earn our livings by thinking.
But if you're a sister who's been a waitress or a brother who's been a construction worker,
this does not work out well for you.
So number one, raising the age is a deleterious
and unequitable issue. Now, number two, when you talk about who pays, you pay a percentage,
about 12% total, which is divided by your employer and you of your salary up to $168,000.
So anyone who makes more than $168,000 has not paid any more into Social Security after
like the first week of January.
Now, why do they get a break?
Because predatory capitalists, you know, I got to use my word, predatory capitalists are protecting
them. If everybody paid the 12%, which turns out to 6% for you, if everybody paid that up to how
much ever money they made, guess what? Social Security would not be in trouble. The orange man who wants to be president obviously has never paid into Social
Security tax or anything else for that matter. We're not going there. But the other thing about
that is he's protecting his friends. Elon Musk paid his first and last Social Security payment
on January 2nd. And we could go down the list. So Trump is trick bagging
folks, but that's what he's doing. People who are over, who are under 70 need to pay attention to
this. This problem could be fixed yesterday if everybody paid equally into the fund.
Right. One second. Omicongo, House Republican Conference, they want equally into the fund. Right. One second.
Omicongo House Republican Conference.
They want to raise the age to 69.
They want to cut future benefits by 13 percent.
They want to cut some 700 billion dollars over 10 years.
And again, what you're looking at are folks who I never hear them ever, ever say, you know what?
I think we spend enough on defense. I think we spend.
It's amazing how defense never gets cut. It keeps going up, up, up, up, up.
But they want to cut Social Security. And that's a nonstarter for a lot of people in this country.
Absolutely. And, you know, defense spending keeps going up as they keep trashing the military, right? So the hypocrisy is glaring.
And I really believe that, you know, what Biden is doing is very strong, is very important
in terms of taking the messages to the people.
But the people also have to take the message to these Republicans.
I'm thinking about what happened over in France and the protests that were happening when
they tried to raise the retirement age there.
And I think that, you know, Dr. Malveaux breaks it down so clearly about what just a year raise in age, year and a half raise, what it can do to people who fully
depend on that. And so I think that Biden coming off the State of the Union, he got them again
on Social Security, you know, the second time around. Keep taking that to the people. Surrogates
keep taking that to the people, because like you said said this is not just a red state issue or a blue state issue this affects everybody and the more that they can bring these small messages
home you know we always talk about okay what you know foreign policy and all of these other major
things but when people talk about these kitchen table issues you're talking about people's
benefits for a system that's already paid into they always make it social security look like
it's this doom and gloom thing and that everybody's throwing everything into this failing system.
This is money that's already taken care of. And really, at the end of the day,
if we can raise people's knowledge about this and not just with, you know, the senior citizens and
the like who are closer to needing it, with younger people as well, as Dr. Mabuse said,
dealing with people under 70 and 65, this can be as big a campaign issue,
maybe not as big, of course, as issues relating to, you know, things like abortion and women's reproductive rights.
That's kind of like number one right now.
But this can be a top three issue that people can really bring home to people during this campaign season.
And I really hope that they nail that because Trump is going to keep stepping in it and giving us more fodder if people keep asking him about it as well. Well, in fact, uh, Teresa, uh, his campaign
real quick. Now they're backtracking on that. They know it's called the third rail for a reason.
That's right. Yeah, it is. Um, it's actually interesting because on the campaign trail,
Trump literally had, this is in 2020, a few videos about
Medicare and Social Security that literally said, under no circumstances should Republicans vote to
cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security. And now it looks like he's back in
the opposite of that talking point. I think what it is, is there are so many backroom conversations,
even that interview he did on CNBC. It was, you know, mostly I feel like the conversations got
a bit confused on what he stands on. But as we look at, you know, the next generation and
new generation, you know, this is something that we do have to be concerned about.
Those who are working, you know, $50,000 to $80,000 a year and we're putting into a pension plan is also thinking about that's a little great opportunity for Biden's campaign to really, you know, when we again talk about kind of reiterating some of my my panelists here,
talk about some of those kitchen tables issues. This is one of them that I do believe hits every household.
It does. And in The Washington Post, they had this story here, how it was described as a very important or somewhat important issue. Go to my iPad. You see right here overall nearly nearly 70 percent among Democrats.
A little bit higher. Independence is lower, but it's almost the same number with Republicans.
You see under 30 and 34. Not as important, but 45 to 65.
Extremely important. 65 and up, that number goes past 75%.
Guess who does well among voters?
65 plus.
Biden blows Trump away.
Guess who votes at a higher rate than any other age group?
65 plus.
So, yeah, this is one that does real well for Biden and Democrats.
That's why the Trump campaign was saying, oh, no, no, no.
He was talking about waste, not Social Biden and Democrats. That's why the Trump campaign was saying, oh, no, no, no, he was talking about waste,
not Social Security and Medicare.
Right, right.
All right, y'all, we come back.
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all right folks. The Biden campaign has announced a $30 million campaign blitz
targeting battleground state state specifically also targeting black and Latina outlets.
They really going to be looking at.
Of course, a lot of March Madness
is coming up and so targeted folks
will be watching NCAA games.
In addition to that,
they also are ramping up their efforts
on the ground, opening some 100 offices.
Across these various battleground states,
this of course is something that I
frankly said they should have been doing really six months ago, primarily because the campaign blitz across these various battleground states. This, of course, is something that I frankly say
they should have been doing really six months ago,
primarily because the campaign was starting a lot sooner.
Donald Trump had long announced that he was running,
and I was saying in early last year,
they have to start much earlier than they normally do.
I'm going to go to Julian first.
Julian, this is the thing that, again,
when you break down a campaign,
they are
running, they're trying to run this campaign
like a normal, traditional campaign.
That to me makes no sense.
If you look at the numbers, the numbers
are very clear, and
that is, the
black numbers are way down.
Same thing with Latinos.
I have been arguing they needed a much earlier runway,
and that is starting much earlier,
trying to teach, educate, and enlighten voters
on what they've done.
They've now put themselves in a difficult position
because now you're ramping up.
This is March.
You're not going into April.
You shortened now your window.
At the latest, they should have been going hard in January. Your thoughts?
Well, first of all, you're absolutely right about the way that this should have happened.
We knew this was going to blow down to a two person.
Dems should have been on top of it. But secondly, and more importantly, Roland, $30 million spend post the State of
the Union, which was, brother Biden did a good job. We're going to give him credit for
that. But now $30 million is going to who? I mean, we know where the weaknesses are.
They're in our community, where we're looking at as many as 20 percent and some say 30 percent of African-American people, especially men, leaning toward the orange man.
So we're looking at that. We're looking at diminished enthusiasm among African-Americans, especially younger people.
Who are the people who have these contracts? Who are the people out of—what slice do we get out of
this $30 million?
We know that we represent roughly 30 percent—roughly 30 percent, could be more—of the Democratic
base.
If that's the case, they're spending $30 million.
Are we getting 30 percent of that $30 million?
That would be $9 million.
How much of it do you have? How much of it does BET have? How much does other black media have? They have a whole array of podcasters and others who are getting little subsidies. How many of them are of African descent? How many of them speak to their base? You know, Roland, there's a company,
I was doing some research because I want to know who they're spending the money on.
And there's a company called Putnam. They've done six presidential campaigns. They're white-owned and they're highly regarded. They don't even have Black subs, Black subcontractors. So what kind of spit is that?
If Democrats want our vote, they're going to have to treat us like they treat everybody else.
When they announced a $30 million spin, here's what needed to happen.
They needed to say an X number of dollars are going to independent black media.
X number of dollars, you can't say it, but I can, are going to Roland Martin Unfiltered. You have produced, supported every African-American cause. just about what's in it. And I'm not talking about you, you, you, you, Roland.
I'm talking about what's in it for us.
Most of us know that you speak to Black America.
So you need about a million, two million, maybe three million there at Roland Martin
Unfiltered.
But not only that, we need to stand up for ourselves.
I don't want to withdraw black votes from Democrats at this time.
I will leave the country if the orange man—seriously, I got two trunks in my living room.
If the orange man is elected president, I'm out of here.
I'm 70.
I can't do this spit no more.
However, that's not the point. We don't want
to withdraw our votes, but we want to be appreciated. If you announce a $30 million
ad buy, who's getting the money? Here's it, McCongo. This is the CBS story right here.
First, hold on, folks. Let me pull it up first. Give me a second't nope nope wrong don't come don't go yet i'm switching up i'm switching uh ipads here okay uh this is the story from cbs says his campaign announced
the six weeks advertising campaign friday with a buy that exceeds its total spending in 2023
signaling a shift to the general election the ads will run on tv and also on radio through black and
hispanic owned outlets as well as on digital platforms.
There will also be specific buys geared towards the March Madness NAACP college basketball tournament this month.
Now, to Julian's point on Macongo, this is a, give me one second, this is a press release that went out in 2000.
And I give me one second. So I want to share it. This is the press release that went out in 2020.
Now, the date on this press release is August 6th, 2020.
Go to my iPad. And so it says yesterday, Biden for president announced a two hundred and eighty million dollar general election paid media reservation across TV, digital and radio outlets targeting 15 key battleground states.
Well, if you go down and you see here, they tout the reservations will include historic investments to reach key constituencies, including African-Americans, Latinos, Asian-American, Pacific Islanders.
And then this is the key.
This includes a massive eight-figure multimedia investment in African-American paid media.
So you see in here they mentioned NNPA, Urban One Network.
They mentioned Shade Room.
And then they said numerous digital media outlets.
And so this planned investment builds on an earlier six-figure buy that was one of the earliest ever investments in African-American media for presidential race.
So then when you go down in this particular item here,
so they touted the various folks, different quotes in here saying this is great.
Okay, so once we got into it,
most of that money was not going to black owned media. It was going to Buzzfeed, which then owned
Complex. It was going to iHeartRadio. It was going to BET, which is Viacom. Okay. And it actually was
a total of 6 million out of 280 million. Here's the problem, Omicongo, that they now have.
African-Americans, the further you get away
from the civil rights movement,
fewer African Americans identify as Democrats.
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Black voter participation has gone down since 2008. So that's 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22. So you got that issue. And so the reality is
they're going to have to spend
more money
to reach African Americans
because you now have to micro-target
African Americans.
The old model, and we keep saying
this, and I'm telling you, the white
consultants of the Democratic Party had better
wake up. The old model
to reach black voters is gone. You do not have a strong infrastructure of the Democratic Party had better wake up. The old model to reach black voters is gone.
You do not have a strong infrastructure of the NAACP on the ground. You do not have a strong
black church infrastructure that you used to have. The voting groups are younger. They're
not necessarily going to church. You're going to have to micro-target African Americans who are
economic voters, African Americans who are social voters, African-Americans who are social voters, African-Americans in terms of black men.
You've got to have a very clear, targeted, deeply rooted program targeting black men.
I don't think they fully understand you can't run the same campaign in 24 that you ran in 2016, 2012 and eight with Obama.
Absolutely. And, you know, my my daughter is actually going to be voting in her first election this year.
And we have all these conversations about politics.
And I don't hear anything about any targeting that's happening towards her in her in her social media spaces or networks and things that she watches, I think one of the challenges that the Biden administration is going to have is that they are going to spend more time going after Nikki Haley's
voters and, you know, independent voters and neglect a large portion of the Black community.
And like you said, when it comes to the Black community, primarily targeting those who are older
in church, you know, the quote-unquote civil rights legacy type voter. And as you said before, you know, many young Black people are not identifying with that on many levels.
They have economic interests, business, and I'm not saying that our older community doesn't,
but what I'm saying is they don't resonate on the same level.
And you also see Trump and his party, they're creating all of these other images that, you know,
even though they got these fake AI-generated images and the sneakers and so on and so forth, at the very least is generating a conversation about how to target young black people.
And the Biden administration has to do a better job in getting with that program.
And if you said six million out of two hundred and eighty million.
Yeah, that was us in 2020.
Look, I have no problem saying it.
We submitted a two2 million proposal.
They came back and literally said,
hey, you know, we can give $20,000 to four black papers.
Are they happy?
I said, well, that ain't us.
The eventual ad spend, then it came back at $100.
I said, no, they came back at $200.
And they said, fine, it was $300.
And I said, yes.
And then I blasted them afterwards.
They were like, well, you blasted us.
I said, oh, I'm sorry.
You thought I was happy with 300? The answer is no.
And so, again, what I was trying to what I keep trying to articulate to them, the black voter is different.
And I'm telling you, folks are not understanding this.
Teresa, you're there in Philadelphia. You're one of the battleground states.
Are you hearing black on media getting any of this 30 million dollars?
Well, yeah, I have two hats. I'm also working with the Pennsylvania Democratic Party.
So I am hearing they are getting it.
And we actually because I'm actually in the room for these conversations are actually targeting local black independent papers here in the city of Philadelphia and
other smaller counties across the Commonwealth.
So, but I agree with your point, Roland.
There has to be someone like you on the national scale when they are putting these budgets
together and not just thinking of just an easy, like it's easy to get to Viacom.
It's easy to get to Viacom. It's easy to get to the Griots. It's easy to get
to these major national media outlets versus dealing with the local ones because they hit
a lot of targeted areas. But the targeted areas isn't really reaching our people and our
communities. That's why in Pennsylvania, we made sure that our targeted approach was having
the regional ones, but also the local papers, because the local papers are also still putting
boots on the ground. They're still, you know, dropping it in corner stores. They're still,
you know, making sure it's at your doorstep versus the other ones who, you know, say,
hey, we're cutting costs because of circulation. They, you know, if they cut out of a certain district or a neighborhood, you're also losing out on that
information. And, and, and, Teresa, again, this is an election about the margins. Listen, don't take
my word for it. If you call Virginia House Speaker Don Scott, we work with them. We did five town
halls broadcast the show. He said thousands of people were watching.
He said he said the work that we did played a huge part in them retaking the house.
And so this is not just about what we do. You've got earn your leisure.
You've got other black podcasts out there. You've got other black digital outlets.
You got other black on media outlets. And so, again, what I'm trying to explain to folks on this show as well,
when I see these polls, I understand that because I've probably been in 20 cities since MLK Day.
And I know what I'm hearing in those 20 cities.
I'm talking to regular, ordinary people.
I'm not talking to political people and folks with money. They have a problem
and they have a problem with the couch and they have to fight the couch. There were three PACs
that announced that they're going to be spending some $30 million reaching African-Americans,
Latinos, Asian-American, Pacific Islanders. Quentin Brown is a co-founder of Collective PAC.
He joins me in the studio.
And Quentin, you know, this thing is real.
When you study the numbers, when you go to these states,
look, in Texas, with Beto running in 2022,
75% of young people under 30 did not vote, okay?
There was a 50,000 voter drop-off in Milwaukee.
Those 50,000 folks vote in 2022, 2018.
Mandela Barnes is U.S. Senator.
And you get the Congress, right?
Right, right, and you get the Congress.
And so my deal is I hope the DNC and the Biden campaign are paying attention to what we're talking about
because we're actually in these communities.
And I'm telling you right now, what I am hearing and seeing will be fewer black folks voting in
2024 than who voted in 2022. That's the problem. He's going to need every available vote, a black
vote, especially Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
Exactly. And listen, that's why these three groups came together for a historic endorsement.
Usually endorsements happen in August, September, towards the election.
We wanted to come out early in March and say we are coming out first and say we want to stand with Joe Biden.
We know he has the record. Right. We have the receipts on what he's done for our community.
But to your point, our community doesn't know about it, right?
They haven't heard these things from the campaign.
And so we really think that the campaign, in our opinion, started at the State of the Union, right?
This past weekend, folks are kind of feeling a little energized.
They saw the State of the Union.
They think Joe Biden did a good job, which we do, too.
And so we were in Atlanta this past weekend with Senator Warnock, with Senator Alsop, with Mayor Dickens.
And I can tell you, there is energy building on the ground since last Thursday.
This commitment for $30 million in an ad buy, I think, is a first step in this process.
But, Roland, we agree.
We have to make sure that black voters understand what Joe Biden has done.
They need to hear it from black media.
And so it's going to be really critical that we partner together with you and others.
And part of that commitment is our own money. Right. We are committing 10 million dollars.
We're investing in Georgia alone as an organization to make sure that people not only know of the receipts that we have, but that we're.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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Doing it and communicating with folks the right way, right?
So black newspapers, black digital shows like yours and others,
it's going to be really critical to our ability to win this election.
And see, this is the piece that I think is hard for consultants to understand.
You can run ads all day.
You can run TV and radio ads.
But you simply do not have the time in a 30-second or a 60-second spot to actually explain policy.
To actually explain this got done,
this got done, this got done.
And that's why I sort of frame it
that the campaign should be thinking about
an education and enlightenment strategy
where you literally are going into various cities and towns.
You gotta hit rural Georgia.
You gotta hit rural North Carolina.
Explaining, done this, this, this, this.
We're going to chat in a moment with Higher Heights.
And look, Terrence Woodbury with his strategies,
he's laid out in his own research in the focus groups.
When you explain to black people what's actually been done,
it completely changes their perspective.
Exactly.
But if you don't actually take the time to explain it,
you're not going to get them. And I'm telling you, the biggest thing that the Biden folks,
Biden-Harris campaign is fighting is the couch. Exactly. Exactly. Listen, we know that in many
of these states, the election was decided by 10,000, 20,000 votes. And so it's going to be
at the margins, to your point. We don't have the advantage of leaving voters behind. We have to
bring every voter to the table, and it's gonna take a massive education
and media and ground game.
We gotta do everything.
We don't have the kind of privilege
of kind of sitting back and thinking
that folks are gonna come to us.
That's not gonna happen.
And I heard one of the commenters mention,
going after Nikki Haley voters
and those kind of never Trumpers.
Listen, the Biden coalition is gonna be big.
It's gonna be broad, but we can't focus on one group
and not give the attention to base voters like black voters the way that we need to.
And I don't want to run past when you used to again, when people understand the numbers are the numbers.
Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 because of 77000 votes.
Exactly. Seventy seven thousand votes in three states. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
You look at the numbers in 2020,
wasn't that, it was larger,
but it wasn't that large of a victory margin with Biden-Harris.
Exactly.
So let's just take Georgia right here.
If you look at 2020 in Georgia,
you had Warnock running for the Senate,
ready to make history.
You had first African American from the South since Reconstruction
United States Senator. Then you had
Ossoff running as well. So you had
massive energy in Georgia
because they were running, and so Biden
and Harris able to draft off of that.
You don't have that in
2024. So you now
have to really go in and cultivate that.
There was a story I saw just the other day that their numbers in Georgia are much lower.
You had a whole different view with the pandemic.
Republican Kemp kept the state open.
A lot of black businesses were appreciative of that.
You look at the election that took taken there.
So, again, this is where you got to go in
and you got to be on the ground. You got to be now. You got to be in Savannah. You got to be in
Albany. You got to be in all of those small towns where you got 20, 30, 40, 50,000 black folks.
You cannot depend on Fulton County and Mariel. No. I think, look, Atlanta is going to be important in the process.
But I'll tell you another stat about Georgia.
There are over 850,000 unregistered African Americans right now who are, you know, eligible but not registered.
And think about that.
10,000, 11,000 votes decided the election last cycle.
So the power is in our community.
2.9 million eligible black voters in Texas.
Exactly.
Another state, right?
And the election was
decided by, I think, 3,000 votes. Well, Cruz, he only won by 2.5 points against Beto for
down in the state Senate. Exactly. You got Representative Colin Allred running against
him. Biden loses North Carolina by just 2.5 points in 2020. There you go. 75,000 votes.
And if you go look at those numbers, a lot of those rural African-Americans, they never
touched. Exactly. Exactly. We don't have the, again, the privilege to leave anybody behind
in this process. And so it's going to take massive investment across the board, right,
in field, in digital, but also in black media. So we agree with you. We stand with you. We're
going to do everything we can to make sure that we're thinking about not just, again, spending money on outlets
that are in white companies,
but black-owned media is going to be really important
because what we know is that black voters
want to hear from authentic, trusted
messengers. And that's what
you are, that's what your show
is, and so again, we're very grateful to be here
and for everything you're doing. I'm going to give you, before I go to
break, I'm going to come back and talk to Glenn DeCard. I'm going to give you
something. So, the Warnock campaign, they were messing around in 2022.
Black newspapers in Georgia, in the middle of September,
they had not bought one ad in a single black newspaper in Georgia.
It wasn't until Meredith Lilly went from the Senate staff to the campaign
and was like, what in the hell is going on?
All of those black preachers that own smaller radio stations around Georgia, they hadn't gotten anything.
Warnock barely won.
I mean, what?
It was like 75,000, 80 votes against Hershel Walker.
So, again, this is going to be a margin election.
It is going to be picking off 800,
1,000, 1,200, 1,500,
and you're going to look up, and that's
going to be 10, 15, 20,
25,000. And I'll say this last thing, though.
I think I
want to put some confidence in Joe Biden.
I think Joe Biden is kind of
at the stage where he's probably running his last election.
And I think he's understanding that he has to do things
a little bit differently this time.
He's not gonna be able to depend on, you know,
kind of his history of being old Joe that we love.
He's gonna have to do some things differently.
Well, his deal, my focus ain't on Joe.
Cause let's just be honest, candidates don't run campaigns.
Problem is, are those campaign strategists
or the folks who are making the decisions, are they listening?
And are they listening to the black folks in the campaign?
Are they listening to Vice President Kamala Harris?
Are they listening to the black people who are around Vice President Kamala Harris?
Are they listening?
Because at the end of the day, and I talk to enough folk who've worked in these circles,
they oftentimes they don't until we get to late September, October, then they're frantic.
Listen to black people early.
Exactly.
Then you're not trying to scramble late.
Hold on one second.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk with the founder of Higher Heights, Black Women.
They've got some concerns about this election, too.
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You hear me? Thank you. When it comes to Democratic politics, the two biggest blocks, black women, black men.
The numbers don't lie. Well, the folks at Higher Heights, they have been studying what black women have to say,
and they understand the power they vote, but they also have some serious concerns.
So joining us right now to talk about this poll that they put together, this survey they put together.
Welcome back to the show.
Of course, you know, we've had on before.
She is, of course, leader of Higher Heights.
Glenda Carr, she's from D.C.
So, Glenda, you're the president and CEO of Higher Heights.
All right.
The survey you did, what does it say?
So we just released polling.
We talked to 820 black women voters between February 14th and February 22nd.
So this is new data.
We wanted to kind of get a temperature check of black women going into Super Tuesday and
into the State of the Union.
And not surprising, black women are multi-issue voters.
What resonates in this polling is that black women are concerned about the economy and
the pocketbook issues.
Fifty-eight percent of black women are concerned about the rising cost of living.
Thirty-five percent of them are concerned about affordable housing.
And 27 percent of black women are concerned about the rising cost of health care.
So this poll talks about cost, cost, cost, right? Black women want
economically thriving, educated, healthy and safe communities. This poll points to that. When forced
to pick three issues that black women are concerned with, obviously the economy rises to the top,
but they're also concerned about gun violence and they're concerned about health care.
So we look at rising costs of living, so some of the issues, rising costs of living,
abortion, public safety, affordable quality housing, reducing racism and discrimination.
Yes. And so that's an intersectional voter. So as we look at candidates vying for our votes, they want to hear about the smart solutions and innovative policies that intersect at our ability to thrive in this community.
And when you say candidates, we're not talking about just D.C.
We're talking U.S. Senate candidates, congressional candidates, gubernatorial candidates, people running for state senator, state rep, all of them. Yes. And so oftentimes we get caught in a discussion about Washington, D.C. and about the top of the ticket.
But there are candidates that are going to be or should be knocking on our doors, making phone calls, texting and being in community conversations with black women.
This poll also talks a little bit about, as you mentioned, that we understand our power.
We still feel like our vote is taken for granted.
So let me dissect that anecdotally.
We talk about our vote being taken for granted because this democracy is a 365-day-a-year
activity.
But oftentimes, our elected leaders and those vying for our votes will come knocking on
our—literally and figuratively knocking on our doors 14 days before the election cycle. Black women want to be active participants in this
democracy. And so that is not only leading into the voting booth, but leading outside of the
voting booth. And they want to hear clear solutions and policy solutions around the issues we care
about. So, Glenna, this is what I was talking about when I was talking with Quentin
about why I felt if you're trying to really run differently,
you should have been starting, frankly, nine months ago
because it's a lot of stuff that happened, a lot of stuff that got passed,
but you've got to break it down.
You know, may he rest in peace, Joe Madison,
but he would always say you've got to put it where the goats can get it.
And so you can't talk about the Inflation Reduction Act
if you don't explain, okay, what the hell was in it?
Okay, build back better.
What was in it?
How did this impact very specific communities?
I remember when the president gave a speech,
I think it was at North Carolina A&T.
And I'm going to love what you and Quentin talked about.
I'm gonna bring my panel in as well.
But he gave a speech at North Carolina A&T
and they still do it.
$7 billion to HBCUs.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That ain't how you get black folk attention.
You gotta be able to say, A&T got this.
Winston-Salem State, you got this.
North Carolina Central, you got this.
You gotta do a roll call.
You got to actually say Florida A&M.
The state gave Florida A&M X millions in 2021.
We gave them four times as much money.
You got to make it plain when somebody goes, wait a minute, hold up.
Florida only gave Florida A&M $40 million and y'all gave them $200 million?
That's something somebody can relate to.
That, to me, is, I think, how you have to explain to,
not just black voters, but all voters, what you have done.
Glenda, you first, then Quentin.
Yeah, absolutely.
I was recently with Senator Raphael Warnock,
and he's been shifting how he talks to black women.
So he's recently been in some large rooms with black women, some black women, you know, sorority conferences.
And what he said is instead of, you know, talking about talking about student loan debt forgiveness, he literally says, do you know anyone that has seen their debt relief. And he said,
almost every single person in that room
may not have affected me,
but I know someone that was able to do that.
He then said there were two,
like women with two hands up.
Not only did I benefit from it,
but I know someone in my family
or in my network.
And so we have to put real life stories.
That's what this poll points to.
There you go.
Poll points to that black women realize
that they are seeing more black women in elected and appointed leadership. And so that is the
strength. Sending out Vice President Kamala Harris to talk about reproductive freedom and the lived
experience as a woman and a black woman is a winning strategy. Being able to have, you know,
candidates and surrogates talk about how this economy affects and what we need to do to move this country forward and not backward.
Backwards. We have to be good storytellers.
Quentin, if I'm Biden Harris, I ain't speaking nowhere unless I got five people in the audience who got student loan debt relief.
Right. Exactly. I'm shouting them out in every speech.
And look, I think, you know, part of our endorsement
this weekend is we're going to see over the next few
weeks a real rollout of a
messaging kind of program around
the accomplishments, to your point. We've been telling them,
you know, you have an actual frame that you can work with right now.
You know, it starts with our health, right?
They've lowered prescription drug costs, $35 for insulin.
They've helped raise the insurance
rate of African Americans to the highest levels that we know.
Our health, our wealth, our wallets, our rights, they have a frame to work with.
But to your point, you've got to break that down for folks.
So wherever you're traveling to, to Georgia or North Carolina, you've got to break those things down.
And if you send $35, you've got to say 68,000 African-Americans in Georgia or whatever the number is.
Exactly.
I mean, that makes it personal.
It does. It does.
And I think we're going to start to see that as the campaign kind of gets into gear over the next few weeks.
But I think the good thing about this, Roland, I will say, they have accomplished a lot for our communities.
It's just the fact that they aren't messaging it, you know, and they haven't been doing that.
But we have a story to tell.
And to Glenda's point, we've got to do it around stories.
We've got to do it in our kind of
black vernacular, right? This kind of point that I've been
making with them is, we've got the receipts, right?
You have a record to run on. We don't want to
kind of, you know, frame this as Joe
Biden has to deliver for black people. No, Joe Biden
has receipts for our community, right? And how do
we actually begin to roll that out in a way
to where it connects with people, where they are,
where they live, where they work, where they go to school?
Glenda, in the poll that y'all did,
I'm going to go to the panel next,
did Tannin do the same thing with these sisters
he did with black women?
Say, they said this,
but then when reciting the accomplishments,
did their perspective change?
We actually, this poll was to do a baseline
to touch point on what they're interested in.
We are at higher heights.
We'll be spending the year. as you know, African-Americans sometimes are not represented in polling,
particularly polling that is not commissioned and designed for and by black people.
And so Higher Heights' commitment in this cycle to make sure we not only are we from
a polling perspective, but focus group perspective, talking to black women voters consistently in this election cycle because we need to be limber.
Right. Just like the world changes in the way that black women are being targeted by mis and disinformation.
We actually need to be armed with how that is impacting them as relates to the discussion around how are we spending our money, as you know,
black women, based on our poll, are getting their news from local news, ABC, CBS, NBC News,
and social media, right? That is where you come into play, right, Roland, is like, how are we
investing in and making sure that we are engaging black women across age, right, intergenerational,
that we are not only combating the misinformation that is coming towards us,
that we are, in fact, being the go to places.
There you go.
Actual information formed by black people.
Well, the Black Pack poll showed that African-Americans were getting lots of negative messaging on Biden-Harris from social media,
which is why I keep saying you've got to have hand-to-hand combat.
When folks are posting that, you've got to literally be in comments.
Wrong. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie.
And dropping the factual information.
Omokongo, your first up question for Glenda Quinton.
Go ahead.
Yes, my question is for you, Ms. Carr.
In your polling that you did
with all of these Black women,
was the question ever brought up
or was there any responses
related to this argument
about the overall threat to democracy?
All of these news stations
are always talking about
Biden needs to run on that. He needs to run on, you know, Trump's an existential threat to democracy. All of these news stations, they're always talking about Biden needs to run on that. He needs to run on, you know, Trump's an existential threat
to democracy. Is this something that's resonating with the black women that you polled?
Yeah, the poll does point to that people are concerned about our democracy, right?
The protecting of their vote, free and fair elections is a touch point.
When you look at the data, it is literally the top six issues are split almost evenly.
I think black women know that this democracy in our country is literally on fire, right,
and that we can't just put all our eggs into one basket. They are concerned about education and CRT.
They are concerned about, you know, fair elections and their vote continuing
to count. And so it is about, as Quentin mentioned, that we are going to hone in on the messaging that
will resonate among African Americans, but we also aren't a monolith, right? And so we oftentimes
are being messaged in a way that is very broad. We want our, you know, this release of a public poll is to be able to
use by our, you know, colleagues and, you know, groups that may not be able to host their own
polls to go, how do we, like, hone in on message? They, our counterparts spend a lot of time talking
about what is the message for swing voters, right? There's a lot of nuances on how to talk to swing
voters. This election cycle is going to be about them understanding how
sophisticated Black voters are and that we're demanding them to raise their bar on how they're
going to talk to us and, frankly, how we talk to each other. Our most effective messenger,
right, when you fire up a Black woman and give her the tools and the information,
she doesn't go to the polls alone. She brings her house, her block, her church, her sorority,
and her union. And polls like this and the work that, you know, our partners do at CollectPack
is that we're going to be very targeted about how we talk to and engage and motivate black
voters this cycle. And Quentin, the point Glenn just made, how you talk to us,
the threat to democracy doesn't
resonate with us. They're closing
our polling locations.
That's being
very specific, which is a threat to
democracy, but you've got to talk that way.
Yeah, exactly. Black people know
that democracy really hasn't ever worked for
us in this country. Right, right.
It's always been broken, and so framing
it that way, to your point, is not detailed enough, right? But talk about January 6th, right. And so it's always... We get that. It's always been broken. And so framing it that way, to your point,
is not detailed enough, right?
But talk about January 6th,
right, an insurrection.
We understand what
trying to overthrow
the government looks like.
And they were mad
about four cities.
Exactly.
Atlanta, Philadelphia,
Milwaukee, Detroit.
Exactly.
That was the cornerstone
of January 6th.
Trump kept saying
those four places.
What are those four places? Black cities. Black cities. Exactly. And was the cornerstone of January 6th. Trump kept saying those four places. What are those four places?
Black cities.
Black cities.
Exactly.
And you think about the other side, right?
91 criminal charges.
We know what not serving your time looks like.
We know what you trying to run from charges looks like.
So you got to break things down in a very different way.
And I think if we figure out a way to do that, Roland,
I think we'll be very successful, but we got to do it.
We can't talk about these overarching things.
We got to dig in to the real issue.
Look, we do it every day. So is but again, it's having messages who know how to talk to our people.
Teresa, your question for Linda Quinton.
Yes. And you're polling. Did you ever ask the question of who are these women going to vote for overall?
We have not deep-dived in that.
What we found in this poll is that overwhelmingly Black women are interested in engaging in this election cycle.
They are concerned about their vote being taken for granted.
That means there's work to be done.
If you talk about it from a political lens, we now, in theory, have a, you know, we have a presumptive, you know, like we know who our nominees on both sides are going to be.
So we now have time to talk about motivating black women. Of course, based on age, younger voters
are less likely to be ready to vote in the cycle.
So there's work to be done.
Now, and Glenda, your poll,
how do you, will you identify younger?
Is it 1835, 1839, 1845?
I'm gonna put that up for you right now.
All right.
It is, it's based on as you
know Terrence I'm with Barry did this work and so there is
this notion of your boomers in your gen Xers you have your
millennium I'm going to talk about I'm quitting your older
millennials versus kind of this this in between of a Gen Z in
and this in-between of a Gen Z and a cusp millennial.
Right, right.
And so it varies drastically.
What we now have is, right, in two primaries,
we have two new voting, very strong voting blocks,
and that's what I'm calling them.
You have uncommitted, which is a voting block
that is being organized and funded,
and then you have those who are saying they're staying at home.
I call that the couch voters.
And that is a very growing, strong voting block.
And there is a discussion and motivation.
And that crosses age demographics.
There are people across age demographics that believe that they can't vote in the cycle. They can't vote for Biden. And so they're sitting at home. Now that's a conscious
decision, but we need to spend some time talking about that. That is a conscious decision. That is
not just you. That is a growing voting block. So at the end of the day, when you are sitting there
rolling, what did you call it? A couch voter? Yeah. That you are actually impacting this
election cycle. Yes. And so you will have to live with that consequence on the other side.
Because what I say is when our vote decreases, what then happens is you actually are making their votes actually go up.
And so the reason black turnout was so great in 08, it actually canceled out.
Black turnout goes here and white voters were pretty much right here.
So it canceled out a lot of those particular votes.
Obama won North Carolina by 14,100 votes.
Biden loses North Carolina by 2.5 points.
Look at the numbers.
Black voters went down and then all of sudden, the margin of victory goes up.
That's what you're speaking to.
Yep.
And at the end of the day, these national people don't think their vote matters.
2020, 2016 has proven, in particularly a presidential cycle, that every single vote matters, and the margins are so low, like narrow, that you just sitting some out.
So there is the, I'm sitting out, self-identify sitting out.
At the end of the day, there is a concentrated effort, right, Justice Quinton and, you know,
our colleagues at Voto Latino, people who are investing in bringing out Black and Latino
and Asian voters.
There is a counter-narrative of people spending millions of dollars
to depress that vote.
Yep, and that's a part of the whole deal,
this whole democracy piece here, Quentin.
And this thing ain't anecdotal.
No.
It's real. It's sitting right there, so you've got to confront it.
Exactly.
And I think what we started to see, I think, last Thursday,
say the union is him being a little bit more aggressive.
Right. Coming directly from the candidate. To your point, though, that has to trickle down to your comms team, to your digital team.
Everybody has to be on the same page around punching back and being really direct around what's going to happen.
You know, he he's calling out things that are happening wrong with immigration or democracy or, you know, who Trump's hanging out with, right?
He's hanging out with other dictators.
That's going to be really critical that we kind of point those things out, but we bring
it home to our folks in Connecticut.
And then you're talking about Josh Stein running against Mark Thompson in North Carolina.
Exactly.
Listen, you got to pay attention to Sherrod Brown trying to get reelected in Ohio because
if he loses in Ohio, Tessa loses in Montana, guess what? Republicans
not control the Senate. Now you're not getting more of those black judges. Now you're not getting
the agenda through if the Republicans control the House. And so this is also where connecting
the dots matter. Julian, your question for Glenda. Glenda, I'm looking at your poll. It looks great.
Thanks for your hard work. I have a question about the priorities and how we're drilling down on them.
So 58 percent care about housing.
You're looking at gun violence.
You're looking at economic issues.
What kind of education is Higher Heights or other organizations doing to make sure people
understand why and how they're voting?
Just using those buzzwords I don't think works
for a lot of voters who are not fully engaged. What's the education piece?
Yeah. Thank you for that question. I think it is the notion of storytelling, right?
This allows us, this poll was very targeted towards media and stakeholders and those
political junkies like me who like to, you know, have the data behind this.
It didn't surprise me that black women are multi-issue voters, that black women are
concerned. Like, I am a black woman. I know what I'm concerned with. I know what makes me,
you know, not sleep at night or wake up in the middle of the night.
Our work at Higher Heights over the next, you know, couple of months as we drive in is actually being your
go-to place for and by black women to provide—for black women to be informed, engaged, and to
take action.
And to do it in a way that every day my cousin to my best friend in Atlanta will be able
to have the information they need to not only protect their vote, but more importantly, have those important conversations at dinner tables with the men in their lives, with the
young women in their lives, in a way that says, this is how the country has been moving forward.
Here is what may happen. We have a real—we are fighting for the—literally what our grandparents
fought for. And so we are at a crossroads in this, you know, in this democracy.
And being able to talk about it in a way that resonates is the work ahead.
And that's what Higher Heights will be doing over the next six months, is ensuring that
we are giving real-life information, connecting with real black women telling their stories, and more importantly,
connecting them to black women running for office and black women who are in elected
office to be able to talk about when they go—when my friends sit at brunch and say,
well, one, my vote doesn't matter or it doesn't affect my day-to-day life.
The notion, as you know, Julianna, Wright, is that every single thing we do from the light bulb
out in front of our house to if we have a pothole in front of our house is tied to a public policy
that is tied to an elected official that you chose to vote for and not vote for.
And I know this ain't gonna happen, but it's interesting how mainstream media talked all
this about all these polls and black people.
Yet when Black Pack dropped their poll last week, none of them called.
They only talked to us.
So let's see who calls you at higher heights, Glenda.
Because, again, they keep talking about black people and all these other polls.
Well, we represent a small sample.
Here, y'all talk to just black women.
Black Pack talked to just black people, black men and black women,
and they don't want to talk about those polls.
So I always find that to be real interesting,
but that's also why we got to have Black on Media.
Glenda, we appreciate it.
Keep us abreast of what's next.
Will do.
Quentin, it's a long, long game here, but what I keep saying is, again,
we got to be constantly educated.
Just this is what happened.
This is what's going on, and this is what will happen,
because I'm going to do a whole two-hour show on Project 2025.
Our folk got to really understand what MAGA has planned if they win.
Exactly, and I think the other thing that we're not talking about
is their plan really is
to have an election
decided by Congress.
Yes.
And if we don't make
Hakeem Jeffries
the Speaker of the House,
it doesn't matter
if Joe Biden wins
if they try to hold up
the transition of power
in Congress.
Well, actually,
what they're doing is
they're funding RFK.
Exactly.
And what they're hoping,
they're hoping that
if Biden,
they want to keep Biden under 270. Exactly.
And if it's under 270, people don't
understand. It goes to the House
of Representatives, which Republicans control.
Exactly. Exactly. So
understanding, connecting the dots.
We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me on.
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It's always interesting when white Americans love to call out black and other minorities
and suggest that we only got into college because of our race and
we only got a job because of our race and oh that job was mine but they had to hire the black person
but they never ever say that when the person is white joe rogan and christopher rufo you know he
was the one who was attacking CRT.
Christopher Ruffo, the one who went after the heart, the sister at Harvard.
So they were having a conversation and they were critical of White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.
Here's some of their conversation.
It is interesting that he's so frail that he's transparent. Right. And he's so transparent to the point where the White House
press secretary accidentally tweeted as him from her account. You saw that, right? Which is
wonderful. I love when that happens. Cause it's like, thank you. I was wondering, and now I know,
you know, I was really confused. I kind of had a feeling it was you, you know, and is there ever
been a worse White House press secretary? She's it's how how did she get that job?
She's so bad at convincing people.
There's there's a bunch of like hardcore, ideologically driven left wing pundits that are on YouTube that could do a way better job.
And they would be fucking psycho about it.
It would be psycho about it.
And the left would be like, yeah, like she's not the one.
Like she's fucking terrible at it
She gets called out for stuff all the time
She gets set up for stuff all the time like Peter Deucys always setting her up. He talks to her, but he's amazing
He's so good. He'll provide a little bit of this, but then what about that?
Yeah, and you know she's just awful at it
And she's only really challenged by one person right in the briefing room and still manages to bungle it on
The daily well, it's just there's so much madness this she has to like cover up
It's what and look this is again a kind of brass tacks way of talking about it
But it's what happens when you put identity over competence
You know everyone knows like explicitly and then when you hire someone it's a big celebration of all the different intersectional identities
The the candidate has yeah, you know, this is our first, you know black female. I don't know LGBTQ. Not really sure
Yeah, and and so the the problem with that though is when you're not making a decision based on competence merit excellence
You're buying into it at the front end on that different hierarchy of decision-making
But then on the back end on that different hierarchy of decision making.
But then on the back end, you can't do anything about it.
You say, well, you elevated this person for identity.
You can't fire that person because of incompetence.
Unless they steal women's clothes from the airport.
Yeah, exactly.
Unless they get a little sideways, you know.
That guy was my favorite. But the Harvard story is this exact phenomenon.
Ah, so don't you love Joe Rogan, who somehow can't identify any facts whatsoever by saying, oh, my God, she actually was tweeting for Joe Biden.
Go to my iPad.
Hey, Joe, since you think you're so damn smart, this is Dan Scavino.
Do you know who Dan Scavino is?
He was the one who often was tweeting for Donald Trump.
Yep, yep, he often was tweeting for Trump, okay?
You gotta be an idiot, Joe,
to not realize that not all candidates and office holders
actually post everything on their social media.
Duh, they have staff.
Okay?
So to act like, oh, this is just Karine Jean-Pierre is stupid.
But see, the issue for me is not, I'm not going,
the issue for me is not even in this discussion, Karine Jean-Pierre.
If you don't like her, that's up to you.
You don't like her.
So they clearly don't like her performance.
Don't like what she's doing, how she does her job.
But here's what I'm focusing on.
I'm focusing on how Joe and Rufo want,
oh, this is identity, this is identity.
And so when they said that, and I've said this beforehand,
y'all notice, you never hear anybody white ever say,
you know, you got into school because you're white.
You know, you got this job because you're a white woman.
You know, you got this job because you're a white man.
You know why?
Because, see, when they say identity,
do you know what it means? It means black, Latino, Asian American, Native American, woman, LGBT.
Identity for them is never white men. Oh, it's never white men. But we all know some absolutely awful, mediocre white men and white women who've gotten jobs, major jobs. Previous Oval Office occupant had a host of people working for him who were utterly incompetent.
And nearly all of them were white.
In fact, he was unqualified.
Donald Trump was a grossly unqualified white man who had no business in the job.
But I use the word unqualified because I want to no business in the job. But I use the word unqualified
because I want to help you all out here. See, here's what they do.
They only use the qualifier qualified
when talking about us. See, so
they automatically, they automatically assume
when it comes to whiteness that they are qualified.
That's what they do.
And so it's not.
And I know somebody is going to say, well, Roland, you can't called.
You can't say that Joe Rogan is a racist.
I didn't call him a racist.
But he's pretty damn racial.
And so is Rufo.
See, they don't even realize when their whiteness comes through.
Even in that conversation.
See, if you believe that Karine Jean-Pierre is awful at her job, just say she's awful.
Just say she's bad.
But the moment you go to identity, now that changes the conversation. And again, I would love for anyone to show me where Christopher Ruffo and Joe Rogan has ever said,
man, that white guy is awful.
He clearly got that job because he's a white guy,
because he's a golf buddy with so-and-so,
because he's a tennis buddy with so-and-so,
because he sucks up to so-and-so.
But that never happens.
And all the black folks I know and y'all watching and listening,
y'all know how this goes. They always
are trying to label us thinking
we are a bunch of Clarence Thomases who will
then be, oh my God, they criticized me. They called me a
diversity hire.
They said I got into school because of affirmative action.
Let me help you out, Joe Rogan and Christopher Ruffo.
The greatest beneficiary of affirmative action in American history.
Actually, white men.
The second group that's been from affirmative action is white women. Now officially affirmative action benefited white women, but that was a book that detailed when affirmative action
was white. And all of these programs and opportunities, they were afforded to white men after World War II, GI Bill, numerous contracts.
We can go down the line.
We see it every day.
How many white men got hooked up with COVID contracts by Trump
just because Jared said give it to them?
I don't recall you, Joe, or Christopher calling them out for their identity.
Hmm.
It's amazing how y'all never, ever question white identity.
But you sure question identity for other people.
Go to my panel here.
Start with you, Teresa.
And we all know the game.
And we know exactly how they do it.
And so I'm gonna hear them every time by saying,
please by all means, show me when you call out whiteness.
They never do because they automatically assume
they're always qualified and they always are excellent at the job.
Yeah, I think that's the most disrespectful thing, especially whenword and also compare black communities to the Planet of the Apes. I'm hoping Spotify is not on this $30 million spend. But even with that, it's troubling that, you know, as many folks, you know, get canceled for things, you know, racial slurs and, you know, disrespect, these folks still continue to remain in our space. They continue to make monies off the backs of what we're
doing.
As it relates to Corrine, she is qualified. She has been in the position to lead the voice
of the administration. But the ignorance of Joe Rogan and Kress that, you know, only,
you know, the president in real time can tweet his own. That's just, again, them going backwards,
them being prehistoric on how they use journalism and lack thereof.
So the identity thing, basically, to me, my 34 years of living always has said
that we don't belong and we never really were supposed to have these positions.
So I'm not sure if I hear it as identity, but more so as just a racial slur. pointing this out, Julian, because I want people watching and
listening to learn
to listen differently.
And
I've been
calling this out for years.
It's no different than somebody
seeing me
in my Texas A&M
gear and go, did you play football?
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
That is a racial assumption.
Because I know what they're actually saying.
Oh, black guy, look like Stocky Bill.
Oh, you went to a white school?
Oh, y'all, you can only have gone there
because you played football.
But what they do here, and this happens everywhere, this happens in law firms,
it happens in corporate America, happens in Silicon Valley,
is what they do is when white folks don't like somebody,
oh, yeah, you only got your job because you're black.
I mean, I used to get these emails from white folks all the time when I was at CNN.
You're not qualified to be there.
And I'm going, fool, you can't even spell resume.
You know, Roland, if you want a good laugh, back in the day when I used to do CNN,
MIT would call me.
They would always refer to me as an MIT trade economist.
MIT got more calls on me than there was one other person, than anybody else, that she really have a degree there.
But they would call MIT alumni office to check my credentials, which was cray-cray to the cray-cray.
And to the point that they had a little three-by-five card to say, if they ask you about Malvo, yeah, she went here.
She finished in 80. So this happens all the time. Here's the deal. Credentials and
qualifications for all of these people, the norm is white male. And anybody who deviates from that
norm, black woman, white woman, GBLTQIA person, if you deviate from the norm, then there are going to be questions
raised. You got your job because you were fill in the blank. No, you got your job because you
were qualified. Because quite frankly, any of us who got those jobs understood that we would be
scrutinized, that we would be looked at closely, and our credentials would be questioned. So this conversation around Corrine is a stupid conversation.
It's stupid because she, first of all, worked under Jen Psaki, who everybody loves.
And Jen Psaki is the one who recommended Corrine, who was her number two person.
Is this not white American meritocracy?
Number one gives up for number two.
And Kareem has done a great job.
Now, if I were having a one-on-one conversation with her, which I adore her, we're friendly,
I'd come a little harder.
But guess what?
If she came a little harder, what kind of other splash
would we get? These white
ignorant white
boys, simmering in their
privilege, have the temerity
to attempt to tear down
a black woman, which seems
to be the sport of the
day in these United States.
Fannie Willis, Barbara
Lee, we can call the roll.
And so these white boys, and I couldn't call them men
because they are boys.
Not only are they boys, they're stupid white boys.
They're out of order, out of line, out of control.
And they believe that they are the center
and the rest of them are the margin.
And here's the deal.
I mean, let's just be clear.
I'm a Congo.
Do we want to say
Clarence Thomas got picked because of identity?
See, again
though, they never
want to do that. But again,
you have
never, you never hear
white folks say, oh
that, yeah,
they got that job because they're
a white man. No, they only use that language when it applies to non-white people.
Absolutely. And I see this across the country, whether I'm working with schools, corporations, government groups, this idea of black employees having their qualifications questioned.
It's a run of the mill situation. And I can go right to the Biden cabinet right now. I
mean, Pete Buttigieg is part of the LGBTQ community, but nobody brings him up as being hired
for that part of his identity. Nobody talks about that. And so right there in real time,
you're seeing how situation is never brought up for the white man who's in office. People don't
bring up his age. They don't bring him being young. They don't bring up any of that. Those
types of issues are reserved for us.
And like the late Joe Madison said, rest in peace, you know, we got to read with a third
eye and listen with a third ear, you know, to really understand what's being said when
they drop these little statements.
And we have to also understand that, if we don't call people out, people who have these
popular platforms like him, Rogan, they get away with
it.
They get away with it, and it gives a permission structure for everybody else.
And you went to the Trump administration, another person, like you said, who was not
uncool, who was not qualified, who started his own campaign by questioning the superior
qualifications of Obama with his birther arguments and demanding his transcript.
And when we bring it back to Karen Jean-Pierre, she worked for the Bidens, she worked for
the Obama administration, she worked for the ACLU.
She is seasoned in this work.
And so, with a guy like Rufo, whose only goal is to get rid of anything that recognizes
us in any way, shape or form and honors our merits, if we don't continue to speak up,
they're going to continue to get away with it.
And so I'm very glad, Roland, that you're trying to get people to listen beyond the
basic of what's been said.
Because like you said, could have said, I'm just not feeling her.
But all of that, once you go into that qualifications rambling, that's when we know we got you.
And Teresa was saying, Rogan's got a history of this.
Um, I wasn't going to play this, but this lines directly up with what I'm talking about.
Y'all have the Bill Maher comment? Bill Maher?
Huh?
All right, so on Friday's show, Bill Maher, they were talking about, you know, the campaign.
They were talking about, you know, what they should do and, you know, Biden, all of them.
Say it again. Do we have it?
OK, so they were talking about all they were doing.
And so Bill Maher decides to throw out his idea of a dream ticket.
Now, he's been highly critical.
He's been highly critical at every turn
of Vice President Kamala Harris.
I mean, he's been criticizing her.
He thinks she's awful.
He thinks she's bringing nothing to the ticket.
He's long said that she needed to be dropped
from the ticket.
So here's what he did on the show on Friday.
Listen to this comment.
I know it's crazy to think that she could run with Biden,
but that's my dream, a unity ticket.
And then he would, I think, definitely win
because nobody's going to.
And of course, she said some crazy things.
Most politicians have not as crazy as we've never been a racist country.
I mean, that's pretty crazy.
You would literally destroy the Democratic base.
I mean, take off the first African-American female vice president.
She's a woman of color. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
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Yes, sir. We are back.
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But it's just like black women are like the core of the Democratic Party.
I know it's crazy to think that she could run with Biden.
Bill, you're an idiot.
I mean, that just, oh, this is my dream ticket.
First of all, first of all,
you notice
Mr. Always Complaining About Identity.
Why would you pick a woman?
Why would you pick
an Indian American woman?
First of all, Nikki Haley
disagreed with Biden
on damn near every policy.
Why in the hell would he pick her?
Right.
Two, oh, this is my dream ticket.
See, this is one thing why I think Dems are stupid.
Only Democrats entertain idiotic conversations.
Hey, let's put a Republican and a Democrat together
and it'll be great.
So y'all always notice this.
When a Democrat president wins, the press goes,
are you going to seek bipartisanship and unity?
Are you going to pick a Republican for your candidate?
And then the Democrat is like, oh, feels like they're blocked in.
They go, yeah.
You won't ever hear the Republicans say it. Yes,
for bipartisanship, I'm going to
pick a cabinet secretary who's a Democrat.
They don't do that shit.
They pick a Republican every time.
So, he now decides
to, oh, this is my dream
ticket. This is my dream ticket.
And, well, it's not going
to happen.
This fool, Bill Maher,
Bill, you need to make a decision.
Either stick to comedy
or
go to school and be taught
political science.
If Biden
even remotely
entertained the thought
of replacing Vice President Kamala Harris
with Nikki Haley,
Bill, it would guarantee
a blowout.
That's right.
Guarantee. He ain't
going to win Georgia.
He ain't going to win North
Carolina. He ain't going to win
Pennsylvania. He ain't going to win
Wisconsin. He ain't going to win Pennsylvania. He ain't going to win Wisconsin. He
ain't going to win Michigan. And
hell, he may end up
losing Illinois.
He may end up losing...
That's how stupid
that suggestion is.
And then Bill goes, well, both of them
are women of color, so
aren't they just interchangeable?
That's a dumbass comment to say real quick,
real quick through the panel, about 30 seconds each.
Teresa Omokongo, Julianne, about that dumb ass comment idea from Bill Maher.
Teresa.
Well, that comment is unfortunately what most folks in the back rooms are
thinking about. And it's very unfortunate
because if anybody even paid attention to Nikki Haley's comments and concerns of how America
should be ran, it is the complete opposite of President Biden. So we would just be hiring
Nikki Haley for a Republican ticket. And just know, to your point, Roland,
about, you know, Republicans do not put Democrats
in their higher executive position is a true fact.
And I have no idea why Democrats do say
that that's how they're going to achieve bipartisanship,
which, as we can see, it has not.
When they ask that question of a Congo, a Democrat president should say, hell no, I'm
picking all Democrats.
Period, bottom line.
I mean, Democrats just got to be bold.
Republicans don't care, and they've made it clear.
And when it comes to Bill Maher, he should go back and listen to the segment that we
just had with Ms. Carr and Mr. James, because Kamala Harris is extremely popular,
and people know that she's the secret weapon who needs to get out more
and have her be more visible.
And so Bill Maher, he's undermining her once again.
This is his M.O.
And really, at the end of the day, we've got to continue to ignore him,
and it would just be a disaster if Biden even got close to that.
Julianne?
I don't think that Biden would ever even fathom having Nikki Haley on his ticket. That is the
funniest mess I've ever heard. Maher overestimates his influence. He is a comedian.
He funny.
He ain't that funny, but he funny.
But he is not a political strategist.
And his dreams, which would be American nightmares, have nothing to do with nothing.
And Theresa's point is one we should explore.
Democrats always want—we want to play kumbaya.
We want to be the nice guy. We need
to stop that mess. So we, yeah,
we'll put a Republican in, and we often
do. When have you seen a Republican
put a Democrat in?
This is not called equal time,
Bill Maher. Hell to
the GD, no.
That's crazy. All right, listen,
I got to go to break, but
real quick, we got to end this segment on a funny note, courtesy of Tim Scott.
No. Press play.
Do you believe the black community will come out for Trump this November? I have never seen the type of enthusiasm
for a Republican presidential candidate that I'm seeing right now for President Donald Trump.
Forty percent of African-American men are willing to vote for President Trump. Why? Because they
had more money in their pockets. We had more law and order in the streets and we had a greater
future for our kids.
Listen, President Trump is a president that says every child in every zip code deserves a quality education.
President Trump is a president who says every neighborhood deserves more police, not defund the police, but let's refund, respect, and have our officers where they're needed the most.
We as a people, the American
people, love that. But African Americans are devastated by migrant crime. We're seeing
African American kids staying home from school in New York City so they can put illegal immigrants
in the schools. We're watching Colorado and Denver specifically zero out paychecks so illegal immigrants can have more money.
That's devastating poor communities.
President Trump stands with a backbone and says, not on my watch.
That boy need to be enrolled into the NFL's concussion protocol program.
My goodness. At best. That boy need to be enrolled into the NFL's concussion protocol program.
My goodness.
At best.
Omicron, he actually ain't no, not, you can't find a Twitter poll that's showing 4% of black men going to vote for Donald Trump.
No way.
I don't know what the hell, I don't know what I'm telling you right now.
They need to issue mandate, pass the cup to him and Lindsey Graham, because clearly both South Carolina senators are high as hell.
They got something going on. There's something in the water. I don't know.
And the fact that they can just get up and just boldly say these things and these commentators or these hosts or so-called hosts, they just buy it because it goes along
with their propaganda.
Wow.
And he just said it so confidently that with no citation whatsoever.
And this is the type of stuff that he's going to continue to say, that Trump's going to
continue to say as they hop, as they pump the sneakers, as they put out the fake images.
And this is why, going back to the top of the sex show tonight, this is why the investment in Black
media is so important, because you need to have real people who represent Black media countering
these narratives with actual facts, with actual posters, with actual surveys, with actual studies
and actual scholars and activists
who do this work. And Tim Scott
demonstrates none of that, and no
one on any of these shows is ever going to ask him
about it either, and it's a shame.
Two words for him, Julian.
Boy, bye.
That is the biggest fool I've ever seen,
but we know that. I mean, he's about
as right as he is straight.
In other words, you know, he's just lying.
He doesn't mind lying.
Good for the network that have the facts behind him, which said that 27 percent, not 40 percent of black folks were inclined.
And understand this, Trump inclined does not mean Trump voter.
We still have six months in this election.
We don't know what the you know what is going to happen in these next six months.
Here's what we do know. Tim Scott is Bojangling for a possibility to be vice president.
He is dancing like Mr. Bojangles, but it ain't gonna work.
Well, it might work. But basically, he's a buffoon.
He's always been a buffoon,
but his buffoonery right now is on high steroids.
That was just silly, Teresa.
It was.
But I also think we should pay attention
to the fine print of that poll.
It was a Fox News poll.
And, you know, we're not sure where the substance
of that was coming from.
But outside
of, you know, who they were getting their
polling location from. But it could have been
their base. And their base
with, you know, black Americans in it
probably is, in its totality,
30%. So
I don't see that that is
a wrong number. First of all, if it's
30% of their base, hell, they got a real
big problem.
That means 70% of their own
base voting for Biden.
Exactly. And that's why
when they have these little tactics
of the Trump sneaker selling out for
$12,000 and such,
again, this is a ploy
so the Biden and the Democratic Party can focus
on the Black community, which we do need to focus on, but Black men, I don't believe,
is the focus. I think the focus is all the other issues that we talked about today.
But, you know, with Tim Scott, you know, all I think about when I see him is his ad commercial
of, you know, from Cottonfield to Congress and him standing in the middle of the field like he, you know, raped the grass.
So it's just interesting.
Every time I see Tim Scott talk, all I see him going, I love you.
We told Trump, I just love you.
Oh, Lord. Let me go
to a break. When we come back, we're going to talk
Alzheimer's, its impact on African-Americans.
And also, we'll talk to
the mother of Mike Brown.
Ten years ago,
killed by a cop in suburban
St. Louis.
The work that his mother and father are doing
to keep his memory alive.
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Hey, what's up? It's Tammy Roman.
Hey, it's John Murray, the executive producer of the new Sherri Shepherd Talk Show. It's me, Sherri Shepherd, and you know what you're watching, Roland Martin Unfiltered. 5,000 folks are diagnosed annually with ALS.
9% of the folks diagnosed take place without a family history, unfortunately.
Many African Americans, according to studies, show that African Americans with ALS experience longer delays in being diagnosed than white patients.
Shauna Prince is Director of Communications at AMALS, joining us from D.C.
Shauna, why the disparities?
Thank you for having me, Roland. And the
organization is I Am ALS. Sorry, I Am ALS. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
Thank you. So there's several reasons for the disparities between the, with the diagnosis.
A lot of people think that ALS is what commonly some folks would just simply say is a white man's
disease, but it's not. So let's back up a little bit and talk about exactly what ALS is. ALS is a
nervous system disease that affects the nerve cells in the brain, the spinal cord, which causes
loss of control of the muscles needed to move, speak, eat, and even breathe. ALS is commonly known as Lou
Gehrig's disease because it was named after the late baseball player Lou Gehrig who played for the
New York Yankees. So we don't know the exact cause of ALS, but we do know that only 10 cases
are generic, genetic, excuse me, or hereditary. So when it comes to the Black
community and trying to understand the disparities between the two, a lot of people need to
understand that it's really the research. A lot of us need to participate in the clinical trials.
And when I say a lot of us, I mean the black community, the African-American communities.
We need to be part in the data collection so that we are included in these numbers.
A lot of the numbers are just not accurate because we're not taking part.
So how do we become a part of these studies?
How do we do that?
So whenever you hear about a clinical trial,
you can also check our website
to find out about clinical trials.
The other thing is when a lot of us go to the doctors
to find out what's going on,
if we have a weakness in our hands or anything like that,
a lot of
African-Americans I diagnose later than the typical white person when it comes to this disease.
Not saying that it's completely based on race, it's simply saying that diagnosis with ALS
does take a while to simply identify. And so what is, so I get hearing about it,
but when these trials come up,
what is the outreach to African-Americans?
What is the advertising outreach?
What is the organizational outreach to be included?
Because again, for a lot of people not realizing,
yes, it's named after Luke
Gary who played baseball go to my iPad I mean this is a list of NFL players that have actually
been diagnosed and who've had ALS and so I mean these are folks who are again who are athletes
top of their game and they've been impacted and so for folks who don't understand,
I mean, we still don't know really what drives this.
And so what's that outreach effort?
So when it comes to the outreach,
it's organizations like IAM, ALS.
We are an organization that is looking to do the work.
We are doing the outreach.
That's why I'm here on the show today. A lot of African-Americans,
we think this is a disease that does not impact us
or affect us in any way,
but we are part of those numbers.
We need to make sure we are aware of organizations
such as IAMALS.
I just met a young man the other day
when I was out for a walk doing the CIAA in Baltimore and just casually talking,
come to find out one of his best boys, his mom, is battling ALS. A lot of us in our community, when it comes to disease, we suffer in silence for some unknown reason. We do not have to suffer in silence. This is an opportunity
for us to find our communities, find those organizations that actually care and use these
resources to our best abilities. IAMALS has support groups for those that are living with ALS,
as well as those that are impacted. That means family members, friends.
A lot of family members turn into caretakers.
That's a heck of a toll to take on as a loved one
of someone battling ALS.
It's a deadly disease.
So you're watching your loved one literally
digress in their health right before your eyes.
That's tough. You need someone to talk to. We have
peer support groups. We have many shades of ALS, which is for minorities specifically,
to sit and be able to talk about the various struggles that they have.
It's a very expensive disease. A wheelchair could cost $5,000 dollars for you to be diagnosed with a disease and then
suddenly you need a five thousand dollar wheelchair that's money that's gonna come from where so
organizations like imls once again we help you with that journey we meet you where you are
and we walk that journey with you to find where those places are, where those clinical trials are being held.
They may be in your area.
They may not.
But at least we are giving you the information to find out your best bet to try to live a better life because, unfortunately, the lifespan of thoseals with ALS are typically between two
and five years.
Our questions, real quick, run for my panel.
Julianne, you first.
Sure.
First of all, thank you for the work.
It's so very important.
I have a cousin, Myrna Malveaux, who is the mom of Suzanne Malveaux, who many of us know, who actually
made her transition after having ALS and very familiar with the many, many, many
adjustments that had to be made, the equipment, its cost, the care that was taken.
One of the issues, there are two things that I want to raise up.
Why aren't we in more clinical trials?
We don't get the information.
That's one thing.
But when we do get the information, we don't necessarily choose to join clinical trials.
So the reluctance of Black people in clinical trials concerns me.
The second question I have around ALS is why there has not been more.
We've seen people, and Suzanne and her family did a great piece on CNN, but we don't hear a lot about Black people with ALS and what it means and what it costs and how devastating it is.
Who takes up that public information campaign?
So that, again, is why I am here tonight. I am looking to
really raise the alarm, if you will, within the Black community. We don't know about it. We hear
about diabetes every day. We hear about high blood pressure. Those are things that sadly affect the
Black community at a higher rate.
When we hear and think about any other disease, it's kind of like, that won't be me, right?
We all think we're immune to certain things, but we're not.
And until this hits your doorstep, that's when people pay attention, sadly.
But again, organizations like I Am ALS, we are looking to get our voices out them. We're going to make sure
that they are receiving all of the resources that they can. The reason I'm here, again,
is to raise the awareness for people to at least have it in the back of their minds to know
IMLS exists. They are here to assist me. We don't care about your race. We don't care about your
gender. We do not care about your religion. We want to make sure that people are aware that we exist so that then when those clinical
trials come along, we can reach out to our community and simply say, hey, this is an
opportunity to share your voice and then get the assistance you need.
We're a volunteer-based organization.
So we have people in Capitol Hill.
We have a legislative team.
We have outreach.
We are very, very strong, small but mighty organization.
So anyone that wants to volunteer with us, go to IamALS.org.
You can volunteer with us in any way.
You can be an advocate, get your representatives to understand
the importance of this disease and to join us in battling this disease. I'm a Congo. Everyone's
voice. I'm a Congo. Thank you so, so much, Ms. Prince, for the great work that you're doing.
Do you feel like there is a medical diagnosis gap in terms of the doctors, in terms of them not feeling,
you know, Black people can suffer from this so they don't really look for it? Or is it more of
an issue of Black people who have it are coming in too late after already having it and not being
diagnosed in the first place? Well, I will not blame the doctors on misdiagnosis or late diagnosis solely. I will simply say that it is a challenge when it comes to being diagnosed with ALS. screenings and sometimes the data, every state also, the bigger issue here, every state does
not have to report their numbers when it comes to ALS. So some people are diagnosed and that
may just stay in whatever state that may be. Others do the responsible task and report those numbers. So there are a lot of things that can
work against us when we're trying to get accurate numbers and representation through
the entire country. So it's a lot of challenges. But another thing I need people to understand understand is that when it comes to ALS and our community, there are veterans, for some unknown
reason, the research is not complete just yet, but veterans are affected by ALS at even a larger
rate than the average person. So that's another thing. A lot of African Americans, as we know, are in the U.S. military.
So this is another reason for us to take that initiative and make sure that we are paying attention to our health and checking in with our doctors.
Teresa.
Shana, thank you so much for your passion and purpose.
Even someone in communications, myself, literally you were going down each of my questions.
I think my last question is, as we end this segment, what questions can black Americans ask their doctors regarding ALS symptoms?
That's an excellent question. I think before you even have to worry about putting the
full trust in your doctor, pay attention to your bodies as well. When we have a weakness in our
arms, we have a weakness in the grip of our hands, those little things, let's not just blow those
things off. Let's make sure that we are listening to our bodies and we are taking note.
We all have an iPhone or a smartphone of some sort or a notepad with grandma and grandpa.
A notepad is nearby. Take note of what your body is telling you. And when you have your yearly
physical, your routine checkup, make sure that you are relaying these things to your doctor. Something as minor as not being able
to grip the remote control of your phone as strongly as you used to, that could be a sign.
I'm not diagnosing everybody with a loose grip with ALS. I'm simply saying, pay attention to
your bodies and make sure that you're relaying this information to your doctors. The final thing that
I will share with your audience, Roland, is that, again, so many of us have family members, friends,
or associates who are battling ALS in silence. I need everyone to know you can honor that loved one by simply going to our website, IamALS.org. We have a community
summit coming up this May. At the end of May, May 29th through June 1st, we have a summit coming up.
You can sign and dedicate a flag to your loved one who is battling ALS, who is impacted by ALS,
who has passed away from ALS.
We have a goal of having 6,000 flags
on the National Mall.
And this will be a community summit once again.
So a visual memorial to anyone impacted by ALS.
So we hope that you will join us.
Again, my condolences to anyone
who has lost a loved one to this deadly
disease, but we are stronger
together, so please
join us in this fight.
Alright. Shauna Prince, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. Have a good one.
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It's going to be a lot of upset.
White people in Virginia, they've now become the second state to ban legacy in admissions.
Joining Colorado, that ban took place in 2021.
Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin signed the bill, House Bill 48, on Friday.
It will prevent family connections from giving applicants to prestigious institutions
such as the University of Virginia
and William & Mary in upper hand.
Boy, you know, they're always crying about
DEI and affirmative action.
Uh-huh.
Let's just get rid of them legacy admissions, Teresa.
Well, it's a disgrace because, you know,
when we talk about generational wealth,
when we talk about, you know, legacy admissions, it means, you know, it's honestly it's the same thing that Harvard, Yale, Stanford that they have.
Right. Somebody's grandparent, somebody's father, somebody's mother went there and thus, you know, their kid goes there.
Legacy is all of a sudden a bad word. And I think it just does damage onto the next admission
student.
So frankly, you know, if it's banned, then maybe I should just go one time and never
recommend this school.
And I think institutions and universities should take a look at that a little bit closer.
It's also a throwback to Jim Crow, Omicongo, because if your grandparents went to Virginia
schools and you use legacy, guess what?
They weren't admitting black people. So that means that white student has an upper hand over the
African-American. Yeah. And let's also be honest and going back to some of these older cases,
a lot of legacy admissions develop to help keep, you know, Jewish students from attending college
going, you know, going back further than that. And so we have to be mindful of the fact that
one of the challenges we're going to see is that people And so we have to be mindful of the fact that one of the challenges
we're going to see is that people who are still influential, still have money, still have clout,
they're still going to find ways to get their kids in there. It's kind of similar to these
reproductive conversations. People who don't have as much means are going to have a harder time
getting things like abortions and the like. People who are wealthier are not going to have a harder time getting things like abortions and the like. People who are wealthier are not going to have that problem. So I'm concerned that he's putting out something
that they feel is going to be kind of equitable for everybody, but it's still not going to play
out as it relates to anybody who's a legacy child not getting in. I still think it's going to affect
us who are graduates of these schools more than people who are white and maybe have better means
to get their kids in there anyway.
Well, here's the other deal.
I don't hear Joe Rogan and Christopher Ruffo
complaining about these unqualified white kids
who get in based upon legacy.
Oh, like Jerry Kushner, whose daddy dedicated,
gave $2 million to his college.
That's how he got in.
There you go.
Julianne?
You know, Roland, what's fascinating
here, they're so-called banning legacy, but it's a smokescreen for them to attack affirmative
action. Because one of the biggest pushbacks that we've had around affirmative action admissions
is we would then say, yes, but what about the legacy admissions? People get in just because they daddy, they mama, somebody gave some money.
And so they said, we'll get rid of that.
But then that gives them a cover to get rid of DEI admissions as well.
So we shouldn't be seduced into thinking, oh, gee, this is a great thing.
Oh, gee, it means that they are more aware. What it means is that they're prepared to
fight our inclusion in the space by whatever means necessary, even if it affects some of them
in a deleterious way, because as Owekongo has said, even when it affects them negatively,
they can figure out a workaround and they can always figure out a workaround. And we don't have the means or the space or the dollars to figure out workaround.
Folks, August 9th will be 10 years since the uprising in Ferguson began, of course, with the shooting death of Mike Brown.
Well, the folks at Campaign Zero have created a scholarship in his name. Joining us
right now is Leslie McFadden, is the mother of Mike Brown. Leslie, tell us about this scholarship.
How you doing, Roland? Thanks for having me on tonight. The scholarship we've put together with
Campaign Zero and the Michael O.D. Brown Brown We Love Our Sons and Daughters Foundation. It's a $3,000 scholarship for the arts trades in any social justice program you are
entering in after high school. This is for inbound seniors. We have chose some local high schools,
Normandy, University City, Riverview Gardens, McClure, and the Central Provision Arts. And we have had a lot of applicants
and we're excited to read them and pick the winners. So it'll be one $3,000 scholarship?
There's five for Normandy and there's two for the other six remaining high schools.
Gotcha. Two, three thousand. Yes. And that's for them. Now you said incoming seniors. So is this so?
It's inbound seniors leaving for high school. So a lot of these seniors are already showing us
their admission letters and their acceptance letters. And we're excited for them as well.
Gotcha. And so this obviously, does this apply to community colleges, trade schools?
I mean, so what does scholarship money apply to?
It applies to all the above, trade schools, community colleges, HBCUs,
and any other college that they've been accepted to.
It's for them and where they choose to go.
It's their choice, but we want to know that they are going somewhere
to support them in their journey.
Why this particular focus?
Because you said arts.
What else did you say?
I said social justice, performing arts, and trades.
And that's because we need more inclusion in all of those areas, especially for my black and brown children.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
Yes.
And so, y'all, but it's concentrated on a certain number of schools there in the St. Louis area?
Yes, it is.
Gotcha.
If people want more information
or if they want to contribute to the scholarship fund,
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They can go to michaelodbrown.org slash apply,
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All right, then we will appreciate you joining us and getting a word about the scholarship.
And so certainly I'm sure those students will greatly appreciate receiving those funds.
Always, always good to get some money from somewhere.
Yes, it is. Thank you.
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