#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Tarrant Co. Texas Jail Homicide, Black Unemployment Rate Rising, Fla.'s Monique Worrell Loses Appeal
Episode Date: June 8, 20246.7.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Tarrant Co. Texas Jail Homicide, Black Unemployment Rate Rising, Fla.'s Monique Worrell Loses Appeal The Tarrant County, Texas, medical examiner ruled Anthony Johnson... Jr.'s death a homicide. Johnson died in less than eight hours in the Tarrant County jail. We'll talk to the Johnson family attorney about the latest developments in this case. The overall May unemployment rate held steady but rose among the black community. Our resident economist, Morgan Harper, will explain the uptick. The Supreme Court Justices release their financial disclosures. Clearance Thomas acknowledges luxury trips from billionaire donors. We'll break down the expenses. The Florida Supreme Court upheld Gov. Ron DeSantis’ decision to suspend Orlando-area State Attorney Monique Worrell. In tonight's Education Matters segment, a summer camp that teaches financial responsibility, investing in the stock market, cryptocurrency, and real estate. #BlackStarNetwork advertising partners:Fanbase 👉🏾 https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseMass Poor People’s and Low-Wage Workers’ Assembly and Moral March on Washington, D.C. and to the Polls 👉🏾 https://vist.ly/37jmv Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Folks, we told you yesterday about the death of Anthony Johnson Jr.
in a Tarrant County, Texas jail.
The medical examiner has now ruled his death a homicide.
Also, the overall May unemployment rate held steady but rose among the black community.
We'll talk with economist Morgan Harper about that.
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It's been called a blowout jobs report.
272,000 jobs were added last month.
Here's the thing. The economists were expecting some 160,000 to be added.
The unemployment rate rose from 3.9% to 4%.
Folks, they're trying to figure out what the hell is going on now.
Of course, Republicans are going crazy because they keep saying how awful the economy is.
But the numbers don't add up. Morgan Harper with American Economic Liberties Project shows us
right now. Morgan, glad to have you here. I mean, again, it's really driving Republicans nuts
because they have been predicting doom and gloom since the inauguration of President Biden and Kamala Harris.
And it seems every month they're like, damn, another one.
Absolutely. You know, we keep hearing these predictions of a recession that, you know,
President Biden and investing so much in manufacturing and infrastructure infrastructure, in trying to lower costs or
things, that he's just going to send the economy into haywire. And it doesn't seem to be the case
based on this jobs data. Now, you noted that the black unemployment rate did tick up, as did the
overall unemployment rate. But we're still, and this is a really important point, we're still operating in historically low territory. Just for context, you know, in the 2010s, you would see black
unemployment rate 8%, 11% into 2015. And so these are still relatively low numbers. And like I
always caution, you know, month to month, it's hard to interpret too much. But we are seeing
that there has been that overall increase in black
unemployment. So something for us to continue watching. Well, the reason why I think it's
hilarious, because every time I hear mush mouth center, Tim Scott, the economy was so great under
Donald Trump. And it's like, I'm sorry, dude, you're getting blown out. Six million jobs created
under Donald Trump now in excess. I mean, approaching almost 14 million under Biden-Harris.
I don't know what the hell economy that they are looking at.
Yes, inflation is an issue, but we have to recognize price gouging among companies.
That's why these major companies are dropping their prices, because they realize that customers are saying, the hell with y'all.
Absolutely. I mean, a couple of things to note.
One, these gains in the jobs are not just even specific sectors. They're actually across the
board. So if you look at healthcare, you look at education, you look at government, you look at
construction, you look at manufacturing, there has been wage growth. So that type of broad wage,
or sorry, job growth, that type of broad-based job growth across all these different sectors,
really unprecedented. And then also the labor participation rate. For prime age workers,
that is now also at record levels we haven't seen since like 2002, over 80% of prime age workers
are participating in the workforce, especially a lot of women. And so, yeah, I mean, this whole
narrative about how this administration is thinking the economy just doesn't add up with the numbers.
But yeah, you're absolutely right, Roland. I mean, these costs, this is a really important
thing, though, especially as we are now in 2024, and everybody knows what that means
for an election year, is a lot of people, when you ask them about the economy,
how's unemployment going? Are we in a recession? They're actually saying that, yes,
we're in high unemployment territory and we're in a recession, just absolutely false impressions of
what's going on economically. And that's a problem. And I do think it connects somewhat to
these high prices that you've rightly identified in a lot of different market areas is due to price
gouging. How do we know? Yeah, because now they're voluntarily lowering prices in groceries. But even on some of those areas where we've seen things like
this oil executive that we now have evidence of that was colluding with OPEC and, you know,
and internationally raising oil prices that were raising gas prices during the pandemic that the
Federal Trade Commission's been calling out and we hope the Department of Justice will pursue
criminal action against, even gas prices now in 2024 are going down right as the summer is beginning.
So we have to continue to also look at what is driving some of these high costs.
For example, health care. I mean, I think that's one I hear a lot from people that
just the cost of health care, the unpredictability of what those costs are going to be
is a huge stress in their day-to-day economic lives. And that is something that connects to a whole series of monopolies throughout the health care
ecosystem. We have pharmacy benefit managers that are just taking bribes, giving drug manufacturers
these rebates and inflating the cost of overall health care. We have landlords that are raising
rental prices and colluding to fix these prices to just see how far they can take us as renters and consumers to pay as much as possible.
Not to mention a lot of the tech companies like Amazon that now also through publicly available data, we know that they've been trying to also test the outer bounds of how much people can pay.
Those are monopolies.
Those require lawsuits often. Lawsuits take a while. But we have seen great progress in this administration in trying to hold some of this corporate lawlessness accountable to bring down these prices.
Last point here, I think when you talk about what people are saying, and I just firmly believe this, I think that is, I believe, yes, prices plays a part of that. But also, when you've had nothing but
negative, negative, negative media reporting for three years left and right, and then the constant
barrage of negative data coming from conservative media, I think that skews a lot of those polls.
Oh, absolutely.
And as we know, I mean, once you get in one of these rabbit holes online because of these
algorithms, which again, which is why we need to break up big tech to get some control over
the Internet again.
Yeah.
Once you get in one of these rabbit holes, then you're just going to get information
that reinforces whatever perception you might have seen in that one article or that one
clip you watched.
And so it's true.
I mean, it's really difficult, I think, to discern too much from polling.
But I don't want to underestimate or somehow minimize, you know, that things are expensive.
And we've got to continue to work on bringing the prices down.
All right, Morgan, we really appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Great to see you.
All right.
Thanks a bunch.
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The Howard University Board of Trustees has revoked the honorary degree
that was given to Sean Diddy Combs a few years ago.
This is a statement that has been released by the university.
It says here, this is a statement that was been released by the university. It says here
This is the statement the university board of trustees voted unanimously today to accept the return by mr Sean comes of the honorary degree conferred upon him in
2014 the acceptance revokes all honors and privileges associated with a degree
Accordingly the board is directed that his name be removed from all documents listing
honorary degree recipients of Howard University.
Mr. Cohn's behavior, as captured in a recently released video, is so fundamentally incompatible
with Howard University's core values and beliefs that he is deemed no longer worthy to hold
the institution's highest honor.
The university is unwavering in its opposition to all acts of interpersonal violence.
The board has also directed the university administration to immediately take the following
actions.
Terminate a 2016 gift agreement with Mr. Combs.
Disband the scholarship program in his name.
Return his $1 million contribution and terminate a 2023 pledge agreement with the Sean Combs Foundation.
No payments towards the $1 million pledge have been due or made by the Sean Combs Foundation
as of this date. Therefore, no funds are due to be returned under the 2023 pledge agreement.
Says the Board of the University administration has no further comment on this
matter. I want to go to my panel
here. Joining me right now, Matt Manning.
Of course, the Rush Attorney, he is out
of Corpus Christi. Glad to have Matt
on the show.
John Quilneal with our own law firm
out of Atlanta.
Michael Imhotep hosts the African History Network
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All right, Matt, so let's go here.
This is a decision by the Board of Trustees.
So they're basing this based upon the video that came out.
So does this then mean that, let's just say,
people start looking at anybody else who got a previous honorary degree from Howard,
and if they got arrested, if they were not even arrested, in this case, the other video,
he hasn't been charged with any particular crime. And so what do you make of this decision?
I think it's a good decision. I think, you know, they say the university's highest honor is this honorary degree.
I would argue the highest honor is a degree from somebody like myself who went to Howard and earned a degree.
But to answer your question directly, I think they should do this because, Frank, these honorary degrees are really PR a lot of times.
And I think they've got every right to say— I wish I could hear what they're saying. He going to call on me?
Somebody's speaking, Roland, so I'm sorry if I'm a little disjointed. But in any event,
I think that the reason they confer these degrees is to say, we think this person
exemplifies the values and the spirit of our fair institution. And once they have clear evidence
that somebody's not doing that, I think it's good for the university to say, not only are we rescinding this degree, but we're sending their
money back because we want to make a clear and unequivocal statement of our values and the fact
that we no longer want this, quote, dirty money. So that being the case, I think it's good that
Howard has done this. Now, whether they realistically need to or have the bandwidth to go through and review every single honorary degree holder to see if he or she has done something questionable.
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I don't think that's really practical,
and I don't think it's really necessary in this case, particularly because Diddy has not disabused anyone of the idea that it's him in the video.
He's adopted that with his piss poor apology. And as such, I think Howard is completely within
its rights to withdraw this honorary degree and send his money back. So I think they've
done the right thing. And I'm proud that alma mater has taken this position. John Quayle.
As it relates to, you know, the sad thing about all of this, number one,
as it relates to the money for the university, is that the students that would be the benefactors of it now have a million dollars less from a deserving student, right,
that maybe could not afford to attend the university.
Of course, the university can utilize additional efforts to gather monies in order to fulfill scholarships.
But as a result of his decision-making, there are students where the university is going to have to fulfill that gap of money.
Michael. Yeah, I think this is a good idea.
And it's more than just the assault on Cassie or the video that surfaced, first of all, we know
that Sean Combs actually paid an undisclosed amount to settle that civil lawsuit, one,
before the video came out.
So then the video comes out.
That video, that incident that took place is—Cassie alleged that incident actually
took place in her lawsuit.
Then the video comes out.
We see it.
Then Sean Combs puts out a video actually apologizing for it and said he makes no excuses for it.
So he admits to it happening.
He didn't say it was his brother.
He didn't say he was an imposter in the video.
He didn't blame Cassie for what happened either.
He said he was responsible for it.
So—and then the other thing is, we know that he just sold his stake in Revolt TV, which he founded.
And there are also other—several other civil lawsuits alleging sexual abuse by Sean Combs as well. So this is to be expected by Howard University.
And I don't know if they're going to go through. I don't know how many other honorary degrees
they've given to people who have video surfaced of them assaulting women and admitting to it,
things like this, and have sexual lawsuits, sexual assault lawsuits out there. I don't know.
But if video surfaces, they may take those same actions as with them.
Well, it's interesting how a university didn't revoke, to my knowledge, Bill Cosby's honorary degree,
nor did they return his money.
Well, when we look at Bill Cosby, one, we see that Cosby was exonerated. His conviction was overturned by the Philadelphia
Supreme Court. Number one. Two, video did not surface of Bill Cosby assaulting women.
Now, so one second. So are you saying that the reason Howard is taking this action is
because of a video as opposed to the action?
I'm saying it's a number of things compounded, but that video is evidence.
Of course.
That video is evidence.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no.
First of all, the video is evidence, but actually statute of limitations has run out.
So again, I'm raising the point here is that, again, trust me, I think it's going to be raised with anybody else.
Again, if you want to compare two high-profile individuals, when they were going through all the stuff happening with Bill Cosby,
Howard did not revoke his honorary degree, nor returned the money.
And I'm going to explain the difference to you right now.
What's the difference?
Number one, in the statement that Howard just put out,
they said no payments on the $1 million have been made, number one.
Number two, Bill Cosby said the sex with Andrea Constant was consensual.
Okay, we'll go again.
First of all, hold on.
We know what he said.
We also know it went through a particular trial.
But here's the whole point. Whether any money had been been received or not.
Again, in fact, when when Howard students were complaining about some comments that Felicia Rashad made when she was defending Bill Cosby,
Bill Cosby said, send my money back. Howard didn't do it.
Right. Well, here there's no money to send back because the payments have been made
according to their statement.
I understand that, but again...
So I'm explaining the difference. No, no, no. I know what
the difference is. The point is this here.
Why did you ask me what to do? No, no. First of all,
I didn't ask just you. I asked three people. So it's not
just you. Okay. So you want a three... I'm answering.
No, no, but you're one of three people. So,
again, so Matt, I'm going to ask you.
Again, Howard did not take the action. Now, you could say that's a people. So again, so Matt, I'm going to ask you again, Howard did not
take the action. Now you could say that's a different board of trustees, different administration,
your thoughts on the comparison of the two. I get what Michael was getting at regarding that
with Bill Cosby, at least it had played out through the courts. And as far as I know,
he never publicly came out and said he was guilty or otherwise did not disavow that the event had occurred.
But I'll tell you directly, you know, you can, I think, say both things are true.
You can have a criticism of Howard for not rescinding Mr. Cosby's honorary degree and
say they were right in this circumstance.
And as I said earlier, you know, I don't know that they practically need to do that in every
instance, but I do think that it's worthy of criticism, right?
If you're saying, look, the reason you're doing it this time is because it's high profile and there's a video and it
looks worse and you didn't do it before when Mr. Cosby was found guilty prior to an overturning
of his conviction, I think that's a fair criticism. Despite being a son of Howard,
I think you're entitled to ask that question. But do I think they need to go back through and
rescind every honorary degree? No. Frankly, honorary degrees are PR moves more than anything else.
So I think they're right to rescind it in this circumstance.
And in the circumstances where they have not rescinded it, I think it's fair to ask them why they didn't do it in that circumstance.
I think two things can be true at once.
All right.
John Quell?
They need to rescind both of them.
I mean, they need to rescind Bill Cosby's as well.
Bill Cosby's conviction was overturned, and that was due to some mistakes, essentially, from the original trial.
However, the amount of women that came forward for sexual abuse allegations was astronomical. what's going on with Diddy is big news, but it was the same level of scrutiny,
the same level of publicity as it was for Bill Cosby.
And the level of egregiousness is the same. And so if they're going to rescind Sean Diddy Combs,
they need to rescind Bill Cosby.
Spellman, if I'm
not mistaken, either Spellman or Morehouse,
whichever one that Bill Cosby
donated to the Cosby Center, I believe
his name was removed from there.
So...
That was at Spellman.
His name was removed?
No, name was removed, but they kept the money.
Maybe Howard spent the money already.
Again, again.
They never received it.
Again, again.
No, no, John Carroll, she's talking about Bill Cosby.
Bill Cosby.
Bill Cosby.
Again.
So there were some other people who rescinded honorary degrees,
but they also kept the money.
And, in fact, I remember several stories where Bill and Camille Cosby were like,
well, if you're going to sit here and revoke some degrees,
send that damn check back.
Folk didn't want to send that check back.
So I'm just saying.
All right, I'll go to a break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about the case out of Fort Worth.
Medical examiners ruled the death of Anthony Johnson a homicide.
We'll also talk about what the hell was Dr. Field talking about
in his interview with Donald Trump.
I'm like, Dr. Field, are you paying attention to what's happening in the world?
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And Dr. Field is one of those folks.
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But here to me is one of the questions
that I just find to be stupid and idiotic
from Dr. Phil.
Listen to this.
Well, I wanted to, and I know that there was some news coming out of Georgia today.
There was some news coming out of Florida today that they're stepping back from this.
Very good news.
I called for the other day, and I don't know if you saw it,
but on Merritt Street Media, where I now do my show,
I called for President Biden to stop all of this now. And of course, a lot of people said,
oh, he can't stop it. It's a state case. Well, OK, that's an explanation for stupid people.
But for people that understand how this works behind the scenes and all, I say the same thing. They need
to stop this. They need to stop pursuing you. Since you started your campaign in 2015 to run
for office, there have been so many attempts to get you off the board even before you started
your campaign. Then once you were in office, two impeachment opportunities, they changed the rules to try to make it high crimes and misdemeanors. There were business conflicts. And in this case,
in this case, it seems to be never ending. And that is a distraction to you. And, you know,
I really wonder how that affects you. What do you say to yourself about that? Because it seems to never be ending. It's a never ending thing.
There's a term that I know you've heard many times. It's called Trump derangement syndrome.
Well, yeah, Dr. Phil, maybe it's never
ending because he keep doing wrong shit.
What you just heard right there, let me
just be as succinct as I possibly can.
You are full of shit, Dr. Phil.
You are full of it.
You are absolutely full of it.
First of all, let's be real clear.
They changed the rules when it came to high crimes and misdemeanors.
Hey, Phil, have your ass ever actually read the Constitution?
The Constitution does not actually define high crimes and misdemeanors,
which means that the United States Senate and the United States House
can define those very things on their own.
Sounds to me like, Dr. Phil, you're an apologist for Donald Trump.
Sounds to me like you were trying to kiss a lot of Trump ass at Mar-a-Lago.
And then this,
I think that's for stupid people to say Biden can't stop it.
Let me be real clear, Dr. Phil,
because clearly your doctrine ain't in political science.
Clearly it's not in history., is actually not in anything political,
President Biden can't stop a damn thing.
In fact,
Dr. Phil, if Biden
picked the phone up to tell Fannie Willis
not to prosecute Donald Trump.
He has no jurisdiction.
He has zero authority.
He has no authority over Fannie Willis in Fulton County.
He has no authority over Alvin Bragg in Manhattan. He has the same amount of authority
over a Democratic DA
that he does over a Republican,
which is none.
And no president
and no governor
and no mayor
and no county judge
should be calling a DA
telling them what not to prosecute.
Now, Dr. Phil, you've operated as a
witness in many trials, so you know
a little bit about the law. Last I
checked, Dr. Phil, it doesn't matter
if you were a former president. It doesn't matter if you are a former president.
It doesn't matter if you are a candidate for president.
The sign above the Supreme Court says equal justice under law. a grand jury and got an indictment, then they have to go through the exact same procedure as any
other regular Joe or Jamal in America.
But
I want to know how you feel. I want to know how
you feel. All the attacking, they seem like they trying to
keep you off the ballot. No, Phil,
seems like his ass keeps breaking the law.
All you did was sit there and just kiss
Donald Trump's ass for 70 minutes.
And y'all, then they posted some
interview of some black woman in the crowd she like I mean after that
I have a whole different view of Donald Trump
after that interview well yeah if you sat there and saw
Dr. Phil kissing his ass for 70 minutes
see y'all need to understand what the likes of Dr. Phil are doing.
First of all, he tried to say somewhere else, I'm not a political person.
Really?
After the comments that you made, now Dr. Phil, come on.
Anybody with a quarter of a brain know you full of crap for what you just said.
And so yeah, you're going to get called out for it.
And it was totally BS.
I mean, they sitting here coming after you.
And it's like they want to take you off the board.
How about this, Dr. Phil?
Why didn't you say, hey, Donald, if you don't want to be prosecuted, stop doing prosecutable shit?
How about that?
That could have been your position, Dr. Phil, but no, you want to use your platform to absolve
Donald Trump of his alleged crimes.
But here's the fact, Dr. Phil, as somebody who's been on the witness stand participated in many trials
he was found liable for sexual assault
in New York City and he kept
defaming E.G. Carroll
I'm sorry did you admonish him
did you tell him why won't you listen to the law?
Please tell me, Dr. Phil, why didn't you tell Donald Trump to shut his mouth and stop insulting judges and violating gag orders?
Oh, I'm sorry, that's right.
That didn't go along with your long effort to kiss his ass for 70 minutes.
You deserve to be criticized for that joke of an interview, Dr. Phil, because essentially
what you did was a 70-minute campaign prop for Donald Trump.
That's what we saw from you, Dr. Field.
Jonquil, your thoughts.
You know, with Donald Trump, although he was the president, these prosecutions, while everyone is, the biggest debate is about it being a party issue, right?
The Democrats coming after the Republicans or Biden coming after Trump.
But what this really shows and what's important here is that when it comes to Donald Trump is that no one is above the
law. Even if you're the president of the United States of America, if you violate the law,
if you break the law, then there are consequences to that. And you're going to be prosecuted as a
result. And no one is going to drop the charges just because of who you are,
what you're running for, or what your prior role was in the country.
And frankly, the president being the top person, the top man of the world,
because the United States is one of the most powerful countries in the world, right?
We can't have tyranny running this country. And to Dr. Phil that is begging President Biden to pardon him or to stop these prosecutions is really unfortunate that he's
even making these kinds of pleas to the media,
to online, to everyone else, because as you previously stated, the prosecutor has the
discretion. Each state prosecutor, right, can make the decision on who they're going to prosecute
in their jurisdiction. And so at the end of the day, he was just found guilty of 34 counts, okay, in that felony trial.
And so at the end of the day, you've committed these felonies, a jury has spoken, and you deserve the consequences, as would any other ordinary citizen in this country.
Here's what sort of cracks me up here.
I mean, I'm talking about if y'all want to hear something that's a joke.
Wait, wait, let me play this one right here,
because I just found this one to be unbelievably laughable
for somebody who supposedly is a doctor in human psychology.
Supposedly.
Listen.
I know you got a thick skin.
You're not one of those people that's afflicted with the need to be loved by strangers.
I get that.
I think that's true.
My question is not how do you do it.
My question is why do you do it?
Why do you?
Let's face it.
I mean, you're a billionaire, you got a great family,
you're a very dedicated father,
people may not see this in you a lot
because you keep that kind of private,
but my question to you is why do you
subject yourself to this?
Now, I know you got a thick skin. Matt, what?
Everybody know this man ain't got no thick skin.
This is one of the most thin-skinned individuals you've ever seen in your life.
He attacks anybody and everybody.
He is a narcissist. You don't have a need to be loved by everybody else. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
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Yeah.
What the hell is Phil talking about?
First, I want to know if Dr. Phil got a check from the campaign
or from the Trump organization,
because it seems pretty clear that he's pandering.
And it's funny that we're having this conversation today.
I was on a plane from Baltimore yesterday,
and I'm reading this book, right?
It's called Winning Arguments. And there's a section in here about Trump. And what the author
talks about with Trump in particular is that Trump has been a force because he's had arguments and
basically has controlled the narrative such that he's never talking about what anybody else is
talking about. He's always talking about what he wants to talk about. And I think that's particularly dastardly in this situation, is because Dr. Phil should have,
I would think, as a journalist, some ethic guiding him to at least be objective and ask questions
that would make his viewers find out more about the subject and at least be fair in considering
the subject. But here, to your point earlier, it's like a 70-minute campaign commercial. And
the thing that's ridiculous about that is there has been coverage ad nauseum about
how Mr. Trump is very petty, vindictive about people who come out and said that he would
not really politically prosecute them, but basically he's going to go after people who
are counter to him.
That is consistent with being thin-skinned.
So why he's throwing these alley-oops, trying to
soft-pedal his character and give him all these opportunities to come off like a family man and
all these things that he publicly has spoken counter to in what he said, I don't know. And
I don't understand why Dr. Phil would do this. But I also think, irrespective of him having a PhD,
Dr. Phil is clearly in the entertainment business
and not in the business of being a credible practitioner.
So I think this is consistent with that.
And I'm wondering if there was a big check
for this entire session where Donald Trump got to come
and extol his own virtues,
especially with Dr. Phil helping him along.
All right, you want to hear more BS?
Let's watch this asinine line of questioning.
Everybody calls it inflation, but affordability.
When we talk about gasoline, under your administration, average $2.57 a gallon.
Under Biden, $3.61, 40% more.
Under your administration, homes, average $320,000.
Under the Biden administration, 31%AGE $320,000. UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, 31% MORE, $420,000.
UNDER YOUR ADMINISTRATION, INTEREST RATES, 3.8 AVERAGE. UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION,
39% MORE AT 5.3%. OKAY. NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE BORDER. UNDER YOU, AVERAGE 1.7 MILLION BORDER
CROSSINGS. THEIR OFFICI. Their official number is 6.4.
That's from Homeland Security.
It's actually about 13 million because I know I've been to the border.
I've talked to the border guards down there, Brandon Judd.
I've talked to Jason Jones.
I've talked to the people that actually know the numbers.
They say it's between 10 and 13 million.
So my point is when you look at the actual numbers plus the things you just talked
about, lower taxes, higher tax revenue, you look at that and you would say, my God, he should be
running unopposed. I mean, why? These numbers, I just, I appreciate it. But, and these numbers
are really, I don't know who made them. Very conservative. As an example, I'd get. I can't listen to the bullshit anymore.
First of all, this is the game Dr. Phil plays here.
The average under you is this.
Under Biden is this.
Okay.
First, nice, convenient way to skip over 2020, Dr. Phil. that thing called COVID. Nice try. Nice try. Second of all,
when he talks about, oh, average prices of a home, Dr. Phil, would you like to mention
how America did not build enough housing stock in the previous decade? Do you not want to mention
that private equity by the end of the decade, they will own 40% of all housing stock?
That kind of plays a role in all of this. Because guess what? I can show you actually
that prices were lower under Obama because because you know what?
Oh, that's right. Because we had an economic recession because the housing market crashed in 2008, 2009 and 2010.
Oh, wow. Those things are called facts.
And so what Dr. Field tried to do right there, Michael, was give this bullshit false equivalency.
I don't understand.
If those things were so great, you should be running unopposed.
We should just be sitting here hand delivering the cake to you every day.
Because my God, when you were there, the world was just flat out amazing.
Why are we not just kissing your feet and washing your feet and praising you, dear leader?
That's what Dr. Fields sounded like.
Yeah, he did. And, you know,
what's interesting is that
Donald Trump inherited a
relatively healthy economy.
Not relatively!
No, he inherited
an economy that was completely
rebuilt
after the destruction of
Bush in 2007,
2008, and it was three years of hail under Bush in 2007, 2008.
And it was three years of hail under Obama in 09, 10, and 11
to get to a thriving economy in 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
Right, yeah.
The unemployment rate was 4.7% when Donald Trump came into office.
He inherited a healthy economy.
And for evidence on this, the article from NBCNews.com, Trump says he built a great economy.
Numbers tell a different story.
So, it's interesting when Dr. Field wants to just compare the interest rates and compare
the price of gas and things like this. He doesn't start with, you inherited a healthy economy from Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
And he doesn't say, and you handed Biden an economy that sucked.
Exactly. Donald Trump is the only president that lost more jobs than he created.
He lost 2.5 million jobs. No president has lost more
jobs than what created since
Herbert Hoover, okay, in 1932.
The other thing is...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before I let you...
I just remind you.
How you gonna cite numbers and go,
but the
real number is 13 million
because I went down there.
Oh, so what you do, you like... One, two, But the real number is 13 million because I went down there. Yeah.
Oh, so what you do, you were like, one, two, three, four, five, six.
I mean, so I'm sorry.
So you're going to cite numbers.
Well, they didn't go on border crossing.
Well, they say six, but it's really 13 because I went down there,
and I talked to the people down there counting.
So, oh, so we should believe that number and the other.
Go ahead.
That looked more like a Fox News propaganda interview.
But the other thing is, is that during COVID when you had shutdowns in various states and
nobody was driving, right?
The price of gas plummeted
because demand dropped.
So it looks like
he's averaging those
Uh-oh! Hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
It didn't just,
demand didn't just drop.
Yeah. What? Nobody driving!
Right, exactly. We drove oil prices Demand didn't just drop. Yeah. Wasn't nobody driving. Right.
Exactly.
We drove oil prices down.
I live 45 minutes from D.C.
Right.
I'm used to sitting in traffic.
It was a damn ghost town driving in every day.
What?
I have never in my life, I will never forget 2020 and half of 2021.
It was like, damn, where did everybody go?
So, of course, dude, he just sat there again.
But this is what happens when you go, well, the numbers are this and the numbers are this and so
this is apples this is apples
no it's not it's a lot
of stuff you leave out
trying to sit here and crap
the argument but what got me Michael
was the I mean you should
be running unopposed
yeah well he totally
left out that he totally left out that whole
insurrection thing when Donald Trump tried
to overthrow—
Oh, my bad, yeah, that just—
—domestic terrorists to attack the U.S. Capitol, and he assaulted over 140 police
officers.
He just conveniently left that whole thing out.
But the other thing is, you've talked about it here on the show, Roland, under President
Joe Biden, you have a record amount of oil production the U.S. is doing at the same time.
OK, The Economist has an article, Joe Biden, master oil trader from May 16th, 2024, that that goes into this and deals with why,
even though the price of oil, the price of gas is a little higher, I think, than this time last year, but it's still relatively low.
OK, so all things considered. So this was you would have thought that this appeared on Fox News or Newsmax or Fox Nation.
Oh, yeah. The amount of lies that were told. And no fact-checking. This absolutely, as Matt said, this is a campaign video.
You called it propaganda.
That's all this is.
Dr. Phil has absolutely no credibility with me talking politics after this joke of an interview with Donald Trump.
I mean, it's abundantly clear.
It's abundantly clear.
And so his line of questioning, all the stuff he laid out, and I'm just sitting here going,
and we supposed to believe your ass?
And your Merritt Street media?
Nah, we ain't believe in that trash.
It was an absolute joke.
And hold on, let me see if i can find that damn clip
of the black woman they had in the audience you know oh i just had a whole different view
of don trump after watching that interview yeah because all you watched was a ass kissing interview
hold on here's this here hold on let me let me set this up. I mean, I don't know who the hell this sister is,
but if she was in my family,
man, we'd be cussing her out at Sunday dinner.
Listen to this nonsense.
Come on, pull the audio up.
So watching your interview today,
I think it actually gave me an interpretation
that I never had of him before.
And us not seeing him
more, it actually kind of
hurts people
on judging him. I guess
if that's what the media wants
to do, then they're doing a very good job
at it. Yeah, you bet.
Alright.
Us not seeing him more.
And not to feel Us not seeing him more. And Dr. Phil,
Dr. Phil,
you bet.
The man lies every damn day.
Every damn day.
And here's the other deal that,
and I would love for,
Dr. Phil,
I want to address this question.
What was up with all the jump cuts in the interview?
What was up with all, because as a matter of fact, some people have posted, let me play this clip
right here. Let me find it here. So like when you, like when we do interviews, I don't cut stuff out.
You talk beginning to end, but hold up, here we go. Okay. Now y'all just watch this right here.
What's up with the splicing? Okay. Watch. You'd be the first one to do it. I know you'd say,
well, let's get rid of these. You know, the money they say and the danger.
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company
dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
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I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Glod.
And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Yes, sir. We are back.
In a big way.
In a very big way.
Real people, real perspectives.
This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all
reasonable means to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King,
John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding
of what this quote-unquote
drug ban.
Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Cor vet.
MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.
Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real.
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You'd be the first one to do it.
I know you.
You'd say, what?
Let's get rid of these.
You know the money?
Folks are talking about in terms of how it was edited, stuff along those lines.
Again, just understand, y'all.
This is what you call absolute propaganda.
And then Dr. Field wants to say, oh, no, no, I'm not picking sides.
I'm not picking.
He's giving all these.
Oh, no, I don't do those things.
No, I'm not even involved in politics.
I just want the world to come together.
In fact, y'all, this is literally what he said
three days before he decided to go talk to dear leader.
Listen to this.
I wanted to share my final thought about this.
This weaponization of our great institutions,
the FBI, Justice Department,
and individual states similar institutions,
will lead to one of two outcomes.
Okay, let's stop right here.
So first of all, you already are using
right wing talking points by saying
it's the weaponization of the Justice Department.
I'm sorry, do we want to remind Dr. Field
who tried to actually fire a number of officials?
That was Trump.
Who ordered, and several of his top lieutenants in the DOJ said,
we will resign if you make this move.
That was Donald Trump.
This is the man.
Really, Dr. Phil?
Oh, the weaponization against him?
Okay, a little more BS, y'all.
From the other side, y'all.
And from the other side, tit for tat,
that may seem deserved,
but it is not the right way forward for America.
The other is what I call on you to demand
from your politicians today, an end to this craziness
in order to save the soul and sanity of our country.
The Pope has actually given us the right approach
in his new book when he says,
"'We are all brothers and sisters,
"'and there must be no resentment among us.
"'For any war to truly end, forgiveness is necessary.
"'That is true of any war,
"'including our current cultural war.
"'We need our Justice Department to return
"'to the business of meting out justice and not running the political agendas
of those currently in power blindly.
Oh, oh, so the DOJ, so help me out Dr. Phil.
If the current Department of Justice
was doing Biden's bidding, why is his son on trial?
Right.
I mean, if I was, they were doing my bidding, why is his son on trial? Right. I mean,
if I was, they were doing
my bidding, I'd be like, y'all ain't prosecuting
my son. Oh, remember
when Biden said, remember when
Phil said that Joe Biden
could pick the phone up and end these trials?
How would Dr.
Phil like it if Biden
said, y'all ain't prosecuting my
son in this? Oh,
you would have a problem with that, huh?
Huh? Right. Ain't that
interesting? Biden has come out
and said he will not pardon
his son if convicted.
Donald Trump said he
will pardon every single person
involved in January 6th.
Mm-hmm. But
you, Dr. Phil, say we need to get back to doing the job.
Okay, just a little more of the BS from Dr. Field.
Wait, can I ask a question first?
...convictions, warranted or otherwise,
and attacking political opponents.
That requires a very few important things
from each of you, from all of us.
Finding your voice,
forgiveness, and focus on the way forward. Okay, he just said forgiveness and focus on the way
forward. Yeah, three days after this interview, Donald Trump promised retribution against his
enemies. I didn't recall Dr. Phil quoting the Pope at that time. I didn't recall Dr. Phil telling him, you know what?
That's not right.
That's not fair.
That's not just.
You should be extending grace and mercy.
Oh, I'm sorry.
We can't use grace and mercy against somebody who holds the Bible upside down.
Back to Dr. Phil.
Forgive them for they know not what they do.
Forgiveness and at the same time requiring better.
We are not some banana republic for God's sakes.
What are we gonna do next?
Have a Putin poisoning posse?
Okay, all right, so first of all,
let me help Dr. Phil out with something.
When you say the phrase banana republic,
do you know where that came from?
That phrase came from the United States
helping overthrow countries largely in Latin America because of the folks who own banana plantations.
Yeah, that's how we also took over Hawaii and it became a state.
Just read Stephen Kinzer's book, Overthrow.
Now, let me help you out, Dr. Phil.
In a banana republic, there ain't no trial.
They go from pick you up to execution.
So the reality is, Donald Trump had due process. It actually happened.
So when y'all throw these phrases out, there's going to be a banana
republic, that's actually not what a banana republic is
when you actually get to present a defense.
So you might want to actually study the phrase
Banana Republic, Dr. Field, before you just start talking like Sean Hannity. I got to
put a little bit more of the stupidity. And start finding political opponents foaming
at the mouth at home, not so mysteriously dying in their lazy boy recliners. We're better
than that. We must be better than that.
I don't like what I see happening in our country.
This kind of thing is exactly why I launched Merritt Street Media and wrote, We've Got
Issues.
I don't like seeing the weaponization of our justice system, agencies, and powerful
government actions that, frankly, just make my skin crawl for all of us and for my grandchildren.
And let's be honest, this is so not just about Trump. If you let your hatred for Donald Trump
compromise your ability to find true north on your moral compass, shame on you. If you let your
disgust for Biden make you blind to the inevitable consequences of pursuing revenge,
then God help the children
who will inherit the dystopian nightmare we create.
Yet, three days later, you interview Trump
and he talks about retribution,
and you say and do nothing.
Dr. Phil, you are a joke.
And all of that crap that you said
in this 4 minute and 16 second
commentary and I only played half
of it everything that you
said can be thrown
right out that damn window on Black Lives
Matter Plaza here in Washington
D.C. because when you actually
talked to Trump 3 days later
it was a 180 degree
from everything that you said here. So the fact of the
matter is, you talked about having a moral compass in this. You clearly forgot your moral compass
when you went to Mar-a-Lago. Matt, I think you wanted to make a comment. Yeah, what I was going
to say is that Bob Menendez and his wife are being prosecuted right now by Biden's Justice Department, aren't they?
And he's a Democrat, right?
And what we see is we see that the goalpost always moves.
We know, especially with Trump, it's about his talking points and advancing his message.
But all I was going to add to it is, one, there's great irony with it being called Merit Street and then obviously having a non-meritorious argument—I mean, a conversation
with Mr. Trump.
But the bigger part of that is—the thing I thought was really insidious about this
is the way Donald Trump continues to other black people.
Referring to the blacks should give him 100 percent of his vote.
And what's interesting about that is that there's just so many people who allow his
sound bites to ring, rather than the totality of what he said, including Dr. Phil.
To your point, about three days later, he says something directly in contravention with that.
And you don't see any retraction or any kumbaya from Dr. Phil then.
And that's what I think is driving this sound bites and people being placated with sound bites and then forgetting about what was said until the next time a spicy sound bite comes out.
Folks, if y'all want, y'all can watch that 71-minute interview with Dr. Phil.
It's trash.
And he's shown exactly who he is with this trash that he just presented.
And you simply have no credibility on any of this, Dr. Phil.
You clearly are a Trump apologist.
That's what you sounded like in the interview.
It's abundantly clear.
When you try to kiss as much butt as you can,
and I'm sure Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. were going,
damn, he did a better job of kissing our dad's ass
than we do.
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Folks, the breaking news out of Tarrant County, Texas.
The medical examiner there has ruled that the death of Anthony Johnson Jr.
has been ruled a homicide as a result of asphyxiation.
Now, we talked yesterday with his parents.
He spent eight hours in the Tarrant County jail before he was, frankly, assaulted by jail guards there. Now,
this decision comes in, this ruling comes in. This here is some of the surveillance video here.
You've heard the sheriff offer excuses. Sixty-six people, let me say it again, 66 people have died in the Tarrant County
Jail in the past seven years.
66 people.
And we showed you the family members as they appeared at County Commissioner's Court demanding
action. And now we have today this decision from the medical examiner saying this was a homicide.
This here is a statement that was released by Tarrant County Commissioner, one of Tarrant
County Commissioner's, Elisa Simmons.
We've had her on the show. She says here, another heart-wrenching jolt for the family of Anthony Johnson Jr.
came today with the Tarrant County medical examiner's release of Mr. Johnson's autopsy results.
The manner of death in Mr. Johnson's Tarrant County jail death has been ruled a homicide.
The cause of death was determined to be both mechanical and chemical asphyxia.
I extend my sincere condolences to Mr. Johnson's parents, siblings, and the entire family during this incredibly challenging time.
I am sad by the determination, yet I am not surprised by it, considering what we all witnessed in the partially released video.
Each and every individual who had a role in causing Mr. Johnson's death should be held accountable for their actions or inaction.
The accountability I am calling for includes the filing of applicable charges for all involved to
include detention officers, supervisors, and medical personnel. The shocking tactics displayed
in the limited video that was released make clear that Sheriff Bill Wayborn is ultimately responsible
for this tragedy. I repeat my call for the sheriff to release all remaining video footage
that captured the excessive forced death of Mr. Johnson
to commissioners' court members, followed by release to the public.
As county executives, the first question we must ask and answer is,
could this have been avoided?
I look forward to next week when I have my initial meeting
with the United States Department of Justice.
I'm committed to supporting efforts
to ensure the Sheriff's Office is seeking
and implementing best practices
until such time.
I believe the Tarrant County Jail
could benefit by a review
by the U.S. Justice Department.
Darrell Washington is the family attorney.
Darrell joins us right now.
Look, we had y'all on just 24 hours ago,
and now we have this determination
from the medical examiner.
What was the response of Anthony's family?
It was shocking, Roland, and I won't say shocking
because we all have seen throughout the country,
whenever you have these type of deaths, typically a medical examiner would come back with a ruling that is not consistent
with the evidence that's been viewed by the family.
But the family knew all along, just looking at that partial video, that what happened
to their son was murder.
So I will tell you, when we gave them the news, it was like them receiving that very
first call, when they learned that
Anthony dead. So it was, it's been a very difficult day for the family.
And again, you're going to have the share of doubt. Now you got to deal with a medical examiner.
Hey, not elected. It's all about the science. Now they have to now deal with this being a homicide.
Melchizedek didn't say accidental overdose, didn't say, oh, you know, something else.
No, they ruled homicide.
That's called murder.
It's clear, Rowling.
And let me just point out something to you.
And, you know, all the things that happened is not pointed out to the public yet, but these jailers actually use pepper spray. And a couple of inmates actually came and gave
statements that these jailers took the pepper spray and sprayed it directly into his mouth.
That's the manner in which they treated him. So this is why a lot of this video has not been
released. And when you see this video,
as we say it all along, people are going to be totally outraged. And this is the reason why
they don't want this video to be released, because we know, Roland, and we've seen it all across the
country. If there's video footage that shows what law enforcement officials are doing is proper,
that video is released immediately, without
any hesitation.
But whenever there's any type of video that shows what they did was wrong, then they want
to hide behind an investigation.
But this video has not been shown for much too long.
And it is time for the public to see what's been going on in Tarrant County Jail.
And listen, what's going on in Tarrant Jail is happening in the state of Georgia. It's
happening in Florida. It's happening all throughout the country. And now we're going to see what
Ms. Johnson has been saying all along. We don't want the death of Anthony to be in vain.
You heard the commissioner say she's meeting with the Department of Justice. I mean,
look, this is one of those cases where the DOJ should be swooping in.
Frankly, the FBI should be coming in, confiscating documents in the sheriff's office and at the Tarrant County Jail.
It's no question. Roland, I know they watch your show.
I know people are familiar with what you broadcast out to the public.
And when you hear that there's been 66 deaths since 2017, when there have been
six deaths in 2024 alone, I don't know how much more it takes. We know that this is the problem.
And again, as we said yesterday, we're talking about the Tarrant County Jail. We're not talking
about a prison facility. So many of the individuals who are there have not even had a day in court.
They are innocent individuals.
And if the Tarrant County Jail is going to accept people in, then they have a responsibility and an obligation to make sure that they are taken care of.
First of all, he should not be dead.
He had a schizophrenic episode, jailed on April 21st.
This young man should be alive.
He served his nation in the Marines.
He should have been treated far better, not just because he was in the Marines, because,
again, like, he's a human being.
And what they did here was shameful and despicable.
It's now being ruled a homicide.
And now let's see if the Tarrant County district attorney is going to be as aggressive prosecuting these jailers as he has been in prosecuting Crystal Mason for voting.
And her ballot was never even counted.
And you're absolutely right, Roland. And we've had a number of meetings with them. And I feel very confident now, Roland, to be able to say to know that there are going to be some individuals who are going to be arrested for the death of Mr. Anthony Johnson. The question now is,
how many individuals are going to be arrested? So I feel confident about that, because, you know,
when you have events like this, we say it all along, video footage, that is your independent witness.
You're not having to take my word for it.
You're not having to take nobody else's word.
You have that independent witness.
So they have no choice in this situation right now.
We are going to hold them accountable.
I feel confident right now that they are going to go forward.
And I do believe, Roland, next week, as early as next week, at least two individuals should be arrested for the death of Mr. Johnson.
We certainly hope so. Darrell, we really appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot.
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Ben, I'm going to start with you. You're there in Corpus Christi.
The reality is the Department of Justice right now is reviewing
juvenile facilities in the state of Texas.
66 people
have died in a jail in
seven years. As I said,
DOJ, FBI should be swooping in any day.
That is unbelievable.
Yeah, it's unbelievable, and they should be swooping in to review what's going on in Tarrant County.
And I want to say first, Darrell Washington is one of the absolute best in our state in civil rights matters.
So the family could not be in better hands.
And I know
he will absolutely get to the bottom of this and assist them along the process.
But the problem really here is the law. I mean, I literally filed today a case against a jail
in a city here in Texas where my client, who's intellectually disabled, had her leg broken
a few hours before she was going to be released from jail. They gave her no medical. She went to the hospital and ended up having to have major surgeries.
My point is this. Jails and prisons in the state of Texas and everywhere do not routinely provide
people the care that they need. And in this instance, they killed this brother. Now, I will
say, the medical examiner finding that it's a homicide is not a determination of guilt or liability as much as it's a determination
of the cause of death, right?
But in this instance where you have video, you know that that cause was by people who
were violating their duty.
So hopefully they will not be able to have qualified immunity as a defense.
The problem is just that in the Fifth Circuit, where we live and practice, the court is extremely
conservative.
They are not in any way amenable to these kinds of cases.
And the legal hurdles are difficult, despite the moral reality being it's clear that this
family should be compensated and we should not be having this conversation.
That jail has a serious problem, and a lot of jails around this state have a serious
problem because people die in droves.
In fact, the Texas Observer did an article a few years ago where they chronicled all
of the deaths in Texas jails, and one of my cases was a part of that story.
I'm still litigating that case.
And I was baffled, despite having multiple cases like this, at the extraordinary number
of people who die in jails and in prisons.
And this, to me, ends up needing to be a legislative issue,
because what happens is families have to climb the same Mount Everest to hold somebody accountable,
no matter how clear the evidence is. And here, when you have six jailers not only jumping on
this man, but also using pepper spray, which they know can cause asphyxiation, this Tarrant County
DA needs to absolutely prosecute these people.
And frankly, if he doesn't bring prosecutions, I think DOJ needs to look into his office,
because we've talked a lot about how his office is pursuing an asinine case against Crystal Mason,
despite her being absolved by the higher courts.
But here you have a dog pile and you have a gentleman who lost his life during a mental health episode. And that's
the corollary to this. These jails and prisons have woefully inadequate resources as it relates
to mental health. And people who are in jails and prisons routinely die because of adverse responses
to mental health situations. So we are in a crisis point in this country and here in the state of
Texas in particular. And the fact that 66 people have point in this country and here in the state of Texas in particular.
And the fact that 66 people have died in seven years and this commissioner is still issuing PR to this extent is a travesty.
I hope this family finds justice despite how difficult the legal hurdles will be.
Michael, not a single word from Texas Governor Greg Abbott or Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, these right-wingers
won't say anything, probably because Tarrant County is the last large county in Texas that
Republicans still control.
Yeah, they probably won't say anything about this.
And we know Greg Abbott also gave a pardon to the man that killed a Black Lives Matter
activist as well.
So, yeah, this is a tragedy here. And I really want to hear what is the jail's
excuse for the death. And we know that two of the officers at the jail were fired but then reinstated as well behind this, reinstated by Tarrant County Sheriff Bill Wayburn.
And, you know, I want to get more—I've read a couple articles on this, but I want to get more reasoning behind why they've been reinstated.
They're on paid administrative leave right now.
So, yeah, this is extremely troubling. I agree the Department of Justice, if they haven't—if
they're not already investigating this, they definitely need to investigate this, as well as
the 66 deaths since 2017, because, you know, that's just that's just that's that's just unacceptable with that.
And yes, there's lacking when it comes to mental health in prisons, but also in county jails, as well as lacking when it comes to medical services also.
So this is something that we definitely have to address. John Quayle, this DOJ has been very aggressive in investigating prisons, jails,
putting wardens and corrections officers in prison far more than under Donald Trump, even
more than under President Barack Obama. Again, this is a situation where they need to move expeditiously against what's happening there.
Sixty six dead in seven years. That is an absolute outrage.
It is an absolute outrage. And just to keep it real here with everybody, a lot of our jails in the United States are not properly maintained. Specifically here in Atlanta,
Georgia, in the Fulton County Jail, seven people, at least seven people have already died
this year due to overcrowding, due to the conditions. When we're talking about mental
health and not having the proper facilities, we're in a mental health crisis just generally.
I mean, there really isn't anywhere for anyone with mental health issues to go.
When I was a former prosecutor, just like education, mental health is directly tied to crime.
And a lot of defendants coming through the criminal justice system had mental health issues.
However, there really wasn't anywhere to send them.
You know, there was a mental health court, but they're outside of holding them for 48 hours or 72 hours.
We are in a real crisis as it relates to facilities and in treatment for for those suffering from mental health issues, period,
and specifically in the criminal justice system.
And frankly, you know, just as Attorney Washington stated earlier
during the course of his interview,
is that the jail houses people that are awaiting trial, right?
So they're presumed innocent.
And so you have these defendants who are here that have not been convicted, but they're dying.
And this crisis is so major to the point where, you know, I'm glad that the Justice Department is being more active now than what it has in past years.
And could it be that
the number of deaths are increasing over the years? I'm not sure if it has to do with the
administration or the level of deaths or the egregiousness of the state of what our jails,
our city jails, look like at this time. But one of the biggest takeaways from this for me is that, number one, we have
got to do something about the overcrowding of the jails, the training of these officers, the
mental health evaluation, psych evaluations that some of these detention officers need to be subjected to
before they're released with dealing with these types of issues. And we need to keep suing them.
We need to keep filing those 1983 claims and keep suing them for millions of dollars and
holding them accountable. And they need to be prosecuted, just like what you stated, and I'm going to make this very brief, but essentially, you know,
in Atlanta, we have the Public Integrity Unit, right? That's a unit specifically
for targeting public corruption and going after officers that are killing people
or using excessive force. And I'm sure that Texas, and I'll defer to
my Texas colleague here about
whether or not
that specific office
exists in Texas, but I'm sure in addition
to the DOJ, there should be an investigation
at the state level
as well.
Absolutely. All right, folks, we will
continue following this story.
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I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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The 6-1 decision keeps Worrell out of a job.
She is running for office in November to regain her Orlando-area position.
She claimed the reason DeSantis suspended her was too vague
and his decision infringed on her prosecutorial discretion.
DeSantis appointed
five of the justices. The court's sole dissenting opinion by Justice Jorge Labarga said that the
26 attorneys need prosecutorial discretion to address the challenges in their respective
jurisdictions since Florida is such a large state with varying geographic and cultural influences.
DeSantis suspended Morell in August
through an executive order for neglect of duty
and incompetence in failing to prosecute crimes.
What we really have here, bottom line, John Quayle,
is Ron DeSantis, who wants to tell other people
who are duly elected, who run on platforms,
that they should do his bidding and not those of the people who elect him.
Yes, I agree 100%.
I mean, when I looked into briefly
as it relates to her removal,
I guess he cited some instances about her
not going after the mandatory minimums for specific type of drug crimes or holding juvenile offenders to a certain standard.
Frankly, that district attorney had not even been in office that long before he had even removed her, first of all.
She hadn't even been there that long. Second of all, prosecutorial discretion is so
important to be able to have because each case is unique. And each case requires, could require a
different outcome. While mandatory minimums are important, right? But we do know that in a lot of
these drug cases that you see these kind of outlandish, disproportionate sentences akin to someone that has killed somebody.
OK. And so, you know, it's just interesting that, you know, he removed her during the course of period of time during when he was running for presidential election,
which he subsequently is no longer in that race.
But and secondarily, she was the second Democratic prosecutor that he had removed,
the former one having stated that he would not prosecute abortions. And so it's really
being reflective of a Republican agenda when really the district attorney's position is so important. It ensures the safety of everyone.
There's a time where politics, it has to be set aside,
and it has to be set aside in the name of the safety of the citizenry
and pursuing justice.
And so it's really, really unfortunate.
But it's my understanding that she's running again,
and I wish her the best in that race.
Here, Matt, is elections have consequences. And this is a right wing thug who wants to
force everyone to do his bidding. And this is the second state's attorney that he suspended.
Yeah. And I think John Quill hit the nail on the head in most respects.
The only thing I'll really add to that is a couple things.
The first is this is a legal problem insofar as in the state of Florida,
the governor has the right to suspend this state's attorney, right?
Whereas in the state of Texas, the only way you could do that
is via a removal lawsuit, which I've talked about here on the show. To that end, your point is well
taken, particularly as it relates to legislators, right? This is a legislative issue because it is
in the Constitution, or at least in the Florida statutes, that he has the right to do this,
which is kind of absurd, because what we're seeing across the country, particularly in Texas and in Florida and in Oklahoma and other states, is we see Republicans particularly
wielding local control when they want to have control within their locality, but then saying
that the state or some higher level should be able to take away local control where people
have voted for someone who they do not agree with ideologically.
That's why Sergeant Perry got pardoned.
That's why Fonning Willis has been attacked.
That's why all of these prosecutors particularly have been attacked, because Greg Abbott and
DeSantis don't like the fact that they are duly elected in their communities and are
serving their communities, following people saying, I want you to be in office.
So this is a legal issue that needs to be fixed by voting the right people into the
Florida House of Representatives and the Florida Senate to either revoke this or amend the
law or make it such that the voter's voice carries the day, because that's the problem
here.
You have a governor who can be politically motivated, and we know Ron DeSantis is exactly
that in most decisions that he makes, who can take away the people's
voice by removing somebody they duly elected. I mean, that's just offensive if you look at
basic democracy, and that's what's happening in this instance. Michael, none of what Matt said
is going to happen as long as Republicans have a gerrymandered map and then they have total control
of Florida. And that means people have to vote. Absolutely. That's what I was about to say. This is why elections have consequences.
This is why elections are so important.
We have to understand how to weaponize our vote.
You don't vote for exercise.
You vote for power.
They're exercising their power.
They're using their power over you in this anti-black state.
And go back to 2018 when Andrew Gillum, mayor of Tallahassee, ran against Ron
DeSantis. And you had some African Americans in Florida who said they weren't voting for
Andrew Gillum because he didn't have a black agenda. And I say Ron DeSantis has a black agenda.
He has an anti-black agenda. And an anti-black agenda is even worse than not having a quote-unquote
black agenda. And we see what Ron DeSantis is doing. And then also, remember, we talked about the story of Andrew Bain in Florida
who replaced Monique Rowell.
And then Andrew Bain, if I remember correctly, Roland,
then he got rid of Monique Rowell's executive assistant.
Am I correct on that?
Yes, several top staffers.
Yeah, and several top staffers and the executive assistant as well.
So this is a deep, deep history dealing with Florida, former Confederate state.
And this is why you have to vote these people out of office who continually do things to harm you.
This was a progressive prosecutor here, Maureen Worrell,
and we have seen backlash coming from governors, coming from Trump's Department of Justice
against progressive prosecutors that citizens voted for to be more fair in their prosecutions.
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Wait till I show y'all how much money Clarence Thomas has accepted in gifts
from rich, conservative benefactors.
You will not believe it.
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Hey, what's up, y'all?
I'm Devon Franklin. It is always a pleasure to be in the house. network. I'm trying to see how much money I have on hand that could buy Clarence Thomas.
If y'all want to know how much it costs to rent a negro?
Oh, Clance has made it perfectly clear.
There's a group, y'all, out there that actually looked
at the campaign disclosure forms,
and they broke all of this stuff down.
And it's called Fix the Court.
And so what's interesting about this,
and when I say y'all, they broke it down.
Check this out.
They compiled all of the gifts,
some 672 gifts given to Supreme Court justices
over the last 20 years.
Anthony, go to my iPad.
A total of 672 gifts
totaling $6.5 million.
Y'all see that
first column?
That's Clarence Thomas.
Clarence Thomas
has accepted $4 million
of the $6.5
million. Y'all,
look at the other justices. Scalia, Alito, Stevens, Ginsburg, Roberts, Kennedy, O'Connor, Sotomayor, Breyer, Rehnquist, Jackson, Gorsuch, Kagan, Barrett, Suter, Kavanaugh.
Clarence Thomas has accepted more money than all of them combined.
Combined.
He's taken double what everybody else has got.
This man, can we just say
Clarence Thomas, hello, rent a Negro.
Rent a justice.
I need everybody to understand.
This man right here is bought and
paid for. Bought and paid for.
He actually wants us to believe
that, oh, he's impartial to decisions
when he is accepting free
gifts and travel.
Oh, then after they dropped the report,
oh, my bad, I read the language wrong.
I didn't realize I was supposed to cite
some of the stuff my wife was giving.
My bad.
Yes, sorry about that.
Then he updated his form today acknowledging more trips
that the billionaire Harlan Crowe has given him.
This is a tweet right here.
Again, he took some trips in 2019.
Now, mind you, ProPublica has been kicking his behind for months.
And now, all of a sudden, after the story comes out, he now, oh, my bad, damn, my bad, dog.
There was some trips in 2019 when Harlan Crow flew me out.
My bad, yeah, I got
flewed out by the billionaires
and so, yeah, I don't know how those things
just escaped my memory of,
oh, yeah, that's right, that's right.
Let me go ahead and report those things.
So my bad.
Yeah, I didn't.
Here's actually what he said, y'all.
This is pretty funny.
In 2011, Justice Thomas didn't disclose wife's income
due to a misunderstanding of the filing instructions.
How is your ass one of nine Supreme Court justices
and you supposed to know case law?
You supposed to be at the top of the legal heap knowing all of this stuff.
And your simple Simon ass wants us to believe, oh, my bad.
I misunderstood the instructions.
We ain't talking about plugging in a toaster.
No.
He want us to believe, oh, I didn't realize I was supposed to list my wife's income
on my financial disclosure form. Y'all know my wife, Miss Daisy, the one who was trying
to overthrow the government, who's a crazy right winger. So check this out. 2023, Thomas, quote, gone back, inadvertently failed to realize a real estate deal need to be disclosed. is called a financial disclosure form.
Then my dad, today, he inadvertently omitted the free luxury trips.
I don't know what happened. It just slipped my mind that I was on that private jet and I was I was flewed out to these luxury trips.
I don't know what happened.
You know, I just been so busy with all of these ruling.
Look, between all the rulings and my wife trying to overthrow the government, I just slipped my mind.
I just didn't realize what was going on.
Matt, this is the most corrupt Supreme Court justice.
Abe Fortas got $160,000 from a rich friend and was forced to resign from the Supreme Court. Clarence darling Nicky Thomas
has gotten
four million dollars
in gifts and we
supposed to believe
he's impartial
there are a few terms that come to mind
the first is get it how you live
the second term is who
going to check me, boo? Because that's really the question here. The Supreme Court does what it
wants, right? I mean, we've heard about the recent fights to even implement any kind of ethics. I'll
give you an example. When I was an assistant DA, I would never let anybody pay for my lunch,
because under the Texas rules, even though I could accept that, I never wanted there to ever be a question about impartiality, and I never wanted to be
accused of accepting a gift. It is crazy. It is downright corrupt. It is Tammany Hall tactics,
frankly, that a Supreme Court justice would continue to take all of these gifts and then
lie about it. Oh, I didn't realize I couldn't do that. Inadvertently failed
to realize. I'm glad you made the point you did earlier, because they go through the minutiae
of arcane legal arguments, novel arguments. Now, I don't like his positions on most things,
right? But he finds a way to reason through some very difficult legal reasoning, but somehow
cannot declare everything that he knows he's gotten as a gift.
And really getting down to it, what's so heinous about this is that this is about as emblematic as
it gets about how the other half lives and about how the justice system is a farce in a lot of
respects. The people at the top of the heap making the decisions that control every court in the
United States of America, are accepting
money under the table, essentially, from people who appear in front of them, which immediately
calls into question any of their rulings, right?
Because that's the whole thing you hear.
John Quayle can speak to this.
We talk about it in the law a lot, quote, the air of impropriety.
Well, this stinks of impropriety.
If I appear in front of you and I've paid for something that you have not declared, and ultimately I've given you that gift and you rule in my favor,
then the question is, did you really reason in the way you thought was appropriate,
or did you reason to hook the homies up? This is really telling of a huge institutional issue.
And I mean, in reading and preparing for the segment, I saw that Justice Jackson and others
have received Beyonce tickets and other kinds of things.
And look, you know, I like the idea that ideologically we know where she lies, but none of them should accept gifts.
Right. Because their rulings are immediately called into question.
Right. And those rulings have an immediate effect on our lives.
Like when I walk out here today out of my office and I get pulled over by an officer, he or she is going to be bound by Supreme Court precedent. The idea that that precedent can be
bought or sold by the highest bidder calls everything into question. And it's just heinous
that it's continuing to happen and that he's continuing to be dishonest about it with the
I didn't know I needed to disclose that. Usually, judges do the opposite, and they go very hard in trying to be transparent
about things because they don't want to be called to the carpet on this. But with the Supreme Court,
since there's nobody above them, they've had no onus to do that. There is no way in hell,
John Quayle, that the Supreme Court can govern themselves. No, that's gone. This whole, well, you know what, over the years, this is how it's been done.
No, you cannot be an equal branch of government with the judiciary and the executive and you self-govern.
I'm sorry.
You have standards in Congress.
You've got standards in the executive branch.
There's got to be standards here when it comes to the federal judiciary.
And in fact, his was crazy.
There are standards for other federal judges.
But the Supreme Court is like, oh, yeah, no, we above everybody else.
No, this is a bought.
This man is bought and paid for.
Ain't no other reason Harlan Crowe just giving money to Clarence Thomas. Just oh, let me go.
Can we just go ahead and just be as as as frank as possible?
If I do. Roll to a woman, say, baby, listen up. I'm going to fix your mama's house.
I'm going to go ahead and pay for all of the trimmings and the fixing of your mama's house.
Matter of fact, I'm going to go ahead and just buy your mama's house.
And she ain't got to send me no rent.
Oh, baby, you want that RV? Oh, I'm just going to go ahead and pay off that $270,000
loan on your RV.
Oh, baby, I'm just going to fly you out. I'm going to put you on my private jet
and I'm going to fly you here and there and we're going to
fly you all over. I'm going to give you all kinds of other gifts.
I ain't doing all that out of the goodness of my heart.
There's an expectation that comes with me hooking your ass up.
That's with most things in life, right? As they say, nothing is for free, or I think that's
an old saying, but I think that you're absolutely right. I think that there can no, I think that
these disclosures now after they have examined these over the years. There can be no more self-governance.
I think part of the reasoning behind they can govern themselves is that the chance of people's cases coming into contact with them is rare. gifts. There's no way that you don't have any conflicts with the cases that have come before
the court. You know, in Georgia, a judge can't even receive a gift over $100, right? So you're
saying $100 on the local level, but the Supreme Court justices can accept millions of dollars. That is absolutely insane.
And, frankly, I think the time to change that, um, is now.
He is bal...
Listen, Michael, let's just go ahead and straight...
This right here is these bidonaires to Clarence Thomas.
They like,
we gonna make... Like, Clarence... We gonna make it rain, Clarence.
They spanking that ass.
We're going to make it rain.
Let's just call it what it is.
He is bought and paid for.
Absolutely.
He's doing the legal lap dance for Harlan Crowe and these billionaires.
Let's just call this thing what it is.
Absolutely.
And ruling in cases against African-Americans as well.
But to take this a step further, Clarence Thomas could have been nullified if more people
in 2016 had voted for Hillary Clinton, because
Donald Trump got three Supreme Court justices.
And let's take it another step further.
These were ultra-conservative Supreme Court justices that Donald Trump got confirmed.
They were given to him that came from lists from the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist
Society, as well as the
226 federal judges that Donald Trump got confirmed as well.
So people—a lot of times, we don't connect the dots in how we got here, right?
If Hillary Clinton had become president, she would have gotten three Supreme Court justices,
so it would be five-four liberal Supreme Court, as opposed to six-three conservative Supreme Court justices, so it would be five-four liberal Supreme Court,
as opposed to six-three conservative Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court justices and federal judges are one of the lasting effects of a
presidency.
Clarence Thomas was nominated—Clarence Thomas was appointed by—
But listen, I get all—I get all of that. I get all of that.
I get all that history.
Forget all that history.
This man is making legal decisions that has a direct impact on the billionaires who's giving him free trips.
Period.
That's what's happening right now.
Right now, this man should,
Chief Justice John Roberts
should be far more aggressive
in holding this man accountable.
And frankly, Roberts has been silent.
He is allowing his court to be corrupted.
It's corrupted by Clarence Thomas.
It's corrupted by Sam Alito,. It's corrupted by Sam Alito.
Period.
Well, Roberts and Alito, they served in the
Reagan administration.
Yeah, but I'm talking about right
now. Right now.
They are making decisions
today that's impacting
these
billionaires.
There's no way around it.
And this whole, well, there's no direct case.
No, no, no, no.
We ain't buying that.
We ain't buying that.
It's corruption,
but that's why they were put here in the first place.
Yeah, but this is where Senator Dick Durbin
of the Senate Judiciary Committee
needs to be a lot more aggressive.
He's been far too passive allowing these things to happen.
20 seconds. I got to go to break.
That's what I was coming to. New York Times has an article today, June 7th.
Senate Democrats face escalating calls for broader investigation into high court.
But they need to hurry the hell up because they too damn slow and they too passive on this whole thing.
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It's me, Sherri Shepherd, and you know what you're watching roland martin unfiltered Financial literacy is critically important.
That's why our father is hosting an online summer camp
that helps black youth learn about investing in the stock market,
crypto, real estate, and more.
Kavon Chisholm is executive director of Junior Wall Streeters, Inc.
He joins me from Gainesville, Virginia.
Kavon, glad to have you here.
And so what kicked this idea off?
Thank you for having me.
This is our fifth year in a row of doing this.
So we started just because we wanted to have a positive impact on our community.
And it starts, I believe, that it starts with being financially educated.
So we're happy to offer the three different types of camps. And all of these camps
are in line with our mission of trying to address the racial wealth gap that we are
experiencing here in the United States. Was there anything in particular that
caused you to say, you know what, we got to get this thing started now?
So my full-time job, I'm an attorney, and I wanted to do something that I was passionate about.
And I wanted to just start it to share some of the knowledge that I had.
And at the time, my son was 11 years old. But what kicked it off is that I was a part, I still am, a part of an investment club, a family investment club. We've
been in existence for 21 years. And I wanted to share that knowledge with others, the benefits
and the success story that we've had by investing together as a
family. But we ran into a roadblock because not many adults were interested in learning more
about stocks. Some of them were afraid of the stock market, and some of them had bad experiences.
So we had to pivot. We still have that investment club component in existence, but
we had to pivot and we started Junior Wall Streeters, which is a nonprofit,
which focuses on primarily educating youth. We do adults too, but our summer camps that we often
have after school programs primarily focuses on educatings from 12 to 21 years old.
From the panel, let's see here.
Junkwell, you first.
Well, first, I just want to say this is such an amazing program that you've created just
because that's such a deep need in our community.
So thank you so much for this program. One of the things,
I saw that it was a virtual program. One, are you still accepting applicants for this summer? And
two, how are you able to keep, since it is virtual, how are you guys able to keep the kids engaged?
Yeah, we're still accepting applications. And so we play a lot of games. We offer, we do a lot of games too. And the games are to keep the kids engaged and also to make sure that they're learning the material. So kids like the competition aspect. And we also have the kids involved in clubs.
So like we break the kids up towards the end of the camp after we teach them about the stock market.
We have them in clubs and they compete against each other to determine whose portfolio is doing better, the best.
So it's it's we work really hard. I have a full time financial literacy teacher that teaches financial literacy full time, Michelle Gosley.
So she's pretty she's pretty aggressive with making sure that the kids learn and using different techniques.
So we do, by the way, this is our first year we do. We will be offering a camp in person in Maryland.
We've joined another nonprofit faith over fear empowerment group in Maryland, and they're located in Salisbury, Maryland. And there we will have in August, in the month of August, we will have a financial literacy and investing camp in conjunction with the Salvation Army there.
Michael.
All right.
Hey, this is great.
You know, I've taught entrepreneurship for years as well.
You talked about in the piece from BlackNews.com, you talked about community wealth building
through investment clubs and how this is one of the things that you teach, community wealth building through investment clubs and how this is one of the things that you
teach, community wealth building. Can you talk about the difference between community wealth
building as opposed to some other programs dealing with investments that focus on individual wealth
building? And once people build the wealth, how do you instruct them or what are suggestions you give to them for the betterment of the community with the wealth?
Yeah. So we really haven't just because the lack of interest in many of I'll be honest,
unfortunately, many African-Americans are just not interested in starting investment clubs. My goal when I started this business five years ago was to have five to have 10 investment clubs started and then move on to do some type of angel investing.
And thus far, we've only had three. I wrote a book on this as well.
Building wealth through financial legacy, building wealth through investment clubs.
So that's why we're working with youth, right?
But I think it's very, very important for more African-Americans to join this, join
investment clubs.
Because if you look at the wealth gap, the statistics, latest statistics say that the
average net wealth, average net wealth for African-Americans is $45,000, $45,500 compared to whites, which is $2,285,000.
So there's a significant gap, right?
Significant gap in that.
So if we can get together, when we talk about investment clubs, we talk about, I mean, pooling our resources together like we do in my family. So we put together $200 a month. We save that
for a couple of months and then we invest it in the stock market. So it's less risk
on each individual person. So, and to answer your question, what do we want them to do?
So we teach our parents about opening up 529 plans for their kids.
We hear a lot about these student loans going on.
And I was one.
Three degrees had over $80,000 in student loans when I finished some 30 years ago.
How are we going to pay that off?
We got to teach.
We got to learn about these options out there, 529 plans, opening up custodial council kids so they can get started early.
But it's just not enough African-Americans are investing in the stock market. So we're
starting with 12-year-olds so the kids will know once they become adults that they have this
information. Matt? Yeah, I really want to laud you for this program. This is extraordinary because
there are a lot of black professionals and a lot of people who just are afraid of the market and
feel like they don't want to put it in there. So I think it's so good to get in front of that
with kids. But the question I actually wanted to ask is, is there a component about practical
life skills as it relates to finances? And I ask because I think a lot of
our people struggle sometimes from understanding the full impact of interest rates. You know,
when you go buy a car, what the impact is on the interest rate as opposed to your
monthly payment, that kind of thing, right? So is there a component that discusses practical
life skills as it relates to finance? Because that obviously has a big bearing on their lives as well.
Yeah. So this program is really based on my life as a whole, as growing up in Newark, New Jersey,
living with my mom, a single parent, being evicted a couple of times, having our lights turned off
and just living through that, right? Going to college, having five credit cards,
two, three credit cards, my first three months in college, having bad credit.
So as far as the practical knowledge, what we do, two things, right? Our summer camps,
after the kids go through our summer camps, we have an alumni program and we meet with the kids
free of charge to come back once a month.
We go over the materials and introduce materials that we couldn't cover.
And one of the new things that we're offering this year in two weeks, actually, my wife is a social worker.
So I kind of convinced her to go get a financial a financial literacy literacy certification.
I didn't even know they had this degree out there.
But now she's going to, we're going to be offering workshops for parents,
encouraging parents to come to the workshop so they can learn how to talk to their kids about money.
Because I'm thinking about my life, my experience, right?
What if my mom would have sat down with me and said, you know what, Keevon, we're going to get evicted.
Because I couldn't pay the bills,
whatever the reasons were, with my understanding of money now or as I was going through this process would be better now. Right. So we're trying all different avenues and trying to be applicable as possible.
And again, I use my real life experience like every November, my credit card company, my credit union, we teach kids about credit unions because not enough of us have credit union accounts, which we know most of the time when you buy a car, you can get the lowest credit rating from a credit union.
Right. Credit rate. I'm sorry. Interest rate. Interest rate.
So I get this offer for my credit union every year.
Do not play your credit, your car bill in december no um free and i presented that to the kids is this a good offer
and believe it or not some of the kids thought it was a good offer but then we taught them no
that's not a good offer because they're still charging me interest rates. So we definitely do try to make sure they understand
why this knowledge that they're obtaining
needs to be reinforced and used as often as possible.
So, Kavon, how can folks get more information?
More information, go to our website www.juniorspelledoutwallstreeters.org and we do have limited amount of scholarships for campers um i just want to encourage you if
our application is right on the website if you do get awarded a scholarship please attend the
camp for the full
two weeks. The financial literacy camps are two weeks. Introduction to cryptocurrency is one week,
and introduction to real estate investment is one week. And we are also still looking for sponsors
to sponsor the kids that are unable to attend the camp, because we believe regardless of your
parents' financial situation, you deserve a financial education.
So anyone that's willing to sponsor Camper, you can do that as well from looking at our, from going to our website.
All right.
JuniorWallStreet.org.
All right.
Come on.
We certainly appreciate it.
Thank you so very much.
Thank you for having me.
All right.
To the panel, we certainly appreciate it.
Michael, John Quayle, Matt, thank you so very much for joining us on today's show.
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Wednesday, I was in Atlanta, the Steve Harvey Charity Golf Classic.
So we had an absolute fabulous time. All the players out there.
It was, of course, raising money
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that Steve Harvey puts on
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And so had some time out there.
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Put it between it.
Put it between it. Gentlemen.
We don't do pictures.
We don't do pictures.
How you doing, sir?
What's up?
All right, all right.
Hey, Les. Thank you, man. that shit, man. Hey, how you doing, sir? What's up? All right, all right. Hey, Les, good game, baby.
Thank you, man.
Enjoy it, man.
Blues are good.
My man.
Appreciate you.
Rolling, Martin.
How you hit them, Doc?
Thank you for coming out.
Well, for the way I play, I hit them great.
You'd probably be very unhappy at this point.
But I have lowered my expectations to the point where I can have a great time playing golf.
I'm a much better fisherman, but ain't no fish out here.
But the other key is you raise the funds for the kids, right?
That's absolutely, that's all that matters.
How'd you play today?
I don't know, I think we finished 9-10.
Yeah, we right out there.
We was trying to get 11-12.
Where we at, y'all?
About 11, 10, 11.
About the same.
Of course, somebody gonna come in here with a shooter... There's going to be some greatness out here. You're going to announce the winner, and everybody's going to go, Jesus.
Yeah, that's what's planned.
Roland Martin, appreciate you, man.
Not a problem, Doc.
Always, always support the good cause.
Yes, sir.
Glad to be here.
A good brother.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Now, Steve was surprised by the homie Charles Barkley, who was out there as well. And so I decided to go visit they group.
Y'all didn't even hit the shot.
We already hit.
How you doing brother?
Chillin'.
See, Same place.
Yeah, I like it. That's crazy.
That one's so straight.
But I'm saying that this tee box line right there.
No, no, I agree.
Hey, are those the shoes that they gave you to course today, or you already have them?
Yeah, these are the ones I got last year.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Those shoes, and then you can wear them off the course.
Elvis, your nemesis is here, Elvis.
He's who whipping on you
How you hitting them Hall of Famer?
Not bad, 15 on it right now
Oh okay, not bad
You heard that Daniel Rowland
So who's actually carrying this team?
This is the best player in the group
We have a lot of good teamwork going on
We have a lot of good teamwork going on
You lying
We're about to go inside
and get this dub
and that's that on that.
Oh, you...
My nickname is Handicap.
Huh?
My nickname is Handicap.
That's not for your golf game.
They call you Handicap,
not for your golf game.
How you swinging it, Chuck?
I'm playing well, man.
Hey, man, he hit
some good shots, man.
I'm proud I came out.
He hit some bangers.
Yes, sir. Hit some bangers. Gotta keep his feet on the ground, though. He keep jumping still. Well, shit, that's some good shots. I'm proud I came out. He hit some bangers. Yes, sir.
Hit some bangers.
Got to keep his feet on the ground, though.
He keep jumping still.
Well, shit, that's what he's supposed to do.
He used to...
...and rebound.
They haven't been used to that.
Come on, now.
Tell him about it.
Everybody...
But our true one getting ready to put one on the green up there.
Okay.
She gets to play from the ladies' team, see.
Oh, I know. She from Houston. Yes. Oh, that play from the ladies' team, see. Oh, I know.
She's from Houston.
Yes.
Oh, that's right.
She play at Texas Southern.
Come on now.
Okay, okay, okay.
Come on now.
That's why she's the best player.
Yeah.
Houston, we're ready for you.
We got your cameraman here for you.
Stop.
Stop.
Hear me now.
Yeah, it is.
What? This your caddy?
It's my caddy and my boat.
T-word. I know what it says.
Now I think middle degrees...
. There we go.
That's why we be winning.
That could have been a little closer.
Oh, could it?
That could have been a little closer.
Oh, could it?
That could have been a little closer.
Let me go get my club.
Go get it.
Let me go get my club.
Go get my club.
That was Amber Kirkendall.
She, of course, is from Houston, played golf at Texas Southern University,
led them to a couple of SWAC championships.
And so good to see her.
Now, also out there was Pastor Keon Henderson out of Houston.
Y'all remember when he went viral for this? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Shh. Hey.
Stop her.
Hush, hush.
Silence in the name of Jesus.
I lift my head.
He said, stop her, stop her, hush.
Well, y'all know I'm petty.
And I forget nothing.
So here's him coming off the final hole.
You should be here like five seconds ago you would have seen the 20 foot I just made.
A 20 foot he just made? Let me just say this here, hush. Don't be with me forever, man.
See, I'm going to sit here and crack on you.
You're going to get cracked on on the golf course. Well, as I said, the proceeds from the golf tournament benefit Steve Harvey's Boys and Girls Camp.
And speaking of Pastor Keon, when we were at the awards part, this announcement was made.
Please stand to your feet.
Give it up for Pastor Keon for blessing the Stephen Harvey Harvey Foundation with $100,000.
Oh, wow.
I need to hear this.
I need to hear this.
Pastor Keon, thank you so much.
God, thank you, thank you, thank you.
You ain't got to hush.
Anybody else want to speak?
Again, $100,000 donation to Pastor Keon, to the Steve and Marjorie Harvey Foundation. And finally, here is Steve talking about, there was a group of young men from Chicago who came there,
who were involved in this program,
and they spoke about the importance of the program.
And so this was Steve right here.
I really appreciate them young brothers coming up here from Chicago.
Amen.
When you all come to this camp, when you all give, look, man, it changes people's lives.
You don't know, like the brother from 100
men said they be what they see and when they see us they become us a young boy is going to be
the man that he sees in front of him we got to get him out of these conditions all of you survive
rough conditions man and we got to keep making it possible for these young kids to see something different grab them snatch him up I had a cat me and my wife was coming
through our customs about eight years ago and God came with me said mr. Hart I
won't talk to you and he was saying I mean his underwear was short so I said
you won't talk to me he said yeah I said no put your pants up tuck your shirt in
so I can talk to you he said okay she starts talking sure I said, man, pull your pants up, tuck your shirt in so I can talk to you. He said, oh, okay. He started tucking his shirt.
I said, tighten your belt up so we can talk.
He was just doing it because he wanted to talk to me.
But I'm not talking to you and you're showing me your underwear.
He said, so why I got to pull my pants up to talk to you?
Because I said, I don't talk to men who are showing me their underwear.
That's not the manly thing to do.
You know what his problem was?
It was a girl that worked in customs
that he wanted to talk to.
And he didn't have a father and a big brother.
And he wanted to ask me,
what could he say to talk to that girl?
So I said, why don't you go up and introduce yourself?
He says to me, like go up and say, what's up shorty?
I said, no, motherfucker, ass cut.
As soon as it came out, I went, yeah.
I said, no man, I said, why don't you say, hey, excuse me.
My name is Eric, or what's your name?
I said, get to know her like that.
I said, you probably need a haircut.
You know, probably get a haircut and tuck your pants in because she look kind of fly and she don't really look like she'll do
nothing with you
I ain't think nothing of it. I gave him my number. We talked a couple more times. I helped a young man get into school
That young man today is a manager at a Home Depot
Him and a girl is married with two kids.
You know what I'm saying man?
It's just, all I did was take the time out to talk to him to give him some direction and that's what I need man.
I need organizations like 100 men and you brothers. Look, it's hard for me to ask for money.
I already know you don't like giving rich people money.
That's why I don't like to ask for it.
Cause everybody I ask for money,
why don't you just pay it yourself?
Well, how much shit I got to buy?
I bought the ranch, I don't put all this shit on it.
Fuck, I'm out of money.
Motherfucker, I wanna go on a trip or something.
I wanna make my fucking car note.
I can't just give up all my money. And I'm helping other people's kids.
But man, the money you donate,
if you take the time out
to just talk to these young cats.
Man, when you ain't got no father,
when you ain't got no brother,
you trying to figure this out.
You know how hard manhood is.
This shit is hard without no direction.
You know, a young man without a role model
is like an explorer without a map
how do you figure manhood
out without talking to another man
so as many of you that can
volunteer your time
I don't care if you don't have money
if you give me your time
and you can snatch up one of these cats
and give them your number
just give these boys a number.
Somebody they can call and run something by.
That can change their life.
You feel what I'm saying?
You feel what I'm saying?
And that was Sharon Page.
She run the foundation all in the camera.
I'm like, Sharon, get out of the way.
Trying to shoot.
All right, y'all.
Again, had a great time out there.
Monday, I'm'm gonna be in
atlanta uh war done it has his 11th annual uh golf classic benefiting his foundation you know
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