#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Tennessee Rejects Summer Food Aid, Feds Investigate Jerome Powell, Gilchrist Suspends Campaign

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

1.12.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Tennessee Rejects Summer Food Aid, Gilchrist Suspends Campaign Tennessee Governor Bill Lee turned down federal funding to help feed children and families during... the summer. I will speak with a Tennessee state representative about the effects on children in low-income areas. We'll also be talking about a Jacksonville reporter being under fire for offering encouraging words to the NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach, Liam Coen.  Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell responds to the Justice Department's investigation of him.  More ICE agents are headed to Minneapolis after last week's fatal shooting of Renee Good. Michigan's Lieutenant Governor Garlin Gilchrist suspends his gubernatorial campaign.  We'll tell you what other public office he's seeking.  And Trump told The New York Times that the results of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the law that ended segregation and race-based discrimination, left white people 'very badly treated'.   Yeah, I have something to say about that foolishness.  #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:24 See, this is between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be scared. It's time to be smart. You dig? 26 coming up on Roland Martin Filkins. Streaming live on the Black Star Network. Tennessee, Governor Bill Lee,
Starting point is 00:11:45 turned down federal funding to help feed children and the families during the summer. I thought they were pro-life. I talked with Tennessee State Representative Justice. about how this impacts low-income areas. Also, a Jacksonville Jaguels beat reporter from the black press is causing a stir
Starting point is 00:12:06 because she offered encouraging words to the head coach of the team. She'll join us right here on Rolling Mark Nonfilter. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell fires back at Donald Trump after the Justice Department investigation of him over spending and Republican and Democrats in the Congress are saying back off of the Fed chair, Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:12:29 More ICE agents are headed to Minneapolis after last week's fatal shooting of Renee Good. Plus, Lieutenant Governor of Michigan Garland Gilchrist suspends his gubernatorial campaign. He announces he's running for another office. Plus, Donald Trump told the New York Times, at the results
Starting point is 00:12:45 of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the one that in isolation and race-based discrimination left white people very badly treated. Yeah, you know, I got something to say. about that. And I keep telling y'all these Republicans
Starting point is 00:13:02 are absolutely positively not pro-life. Wait till I tell you all what Trump's EPA is doing when it comes to pollution. It's time to bring the funk. I'm rolling market on Filchon. The Black Stud Network, let's go. The governor of Tennessee, Bill Lee, has turned down $84 million.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yes, $84 million in federal funding that could feed nearly 700,000 kids this summer when school meals aren't available. Instead, the state is running a smaller program that reaches fewer kids and gives the administration control
Starting point is 00:14:29 over who gets help. Critics say this leaves hundreds of thousands of children hungry for families, court counting on summer meals. This is a major deal. The governor says his program is better for Tennessee, but for how many kids?
Starting point is 00:14:43 That federal money, of course, could have made the difference between eating and going hungry. The governor goes down, Tennessee's their representative, Justin Pearson, glad to have you back on the show, Representative Pearson. Look, this is not the first time a Republican governor has done this.
Starting point is 00:14:56 We saw DeSantis do this. We saw Texas Governor Greg Abbott do this. These people love saying their pro-life, but it's amazing how they love to deny basic food benefits for the most vulnerable. Yeah, no, it's disgusting and it's dishonorable to the oath
Starting point is 00:15:12 that we all swear to protect and care for the people in our states, the people in our communities. Governor Bill Lee is abandoning the children. for another year of the summer food program and taking tax dollars that we paid already $84 million and just returning into the federal government without actually fighting to make sure that every child
Starting point is 00:15:32 in the summertime is not going to bed hungry. One out of five children are already food insecure in this state. Hundreds of thousands in my district need these resources and the program that the governor actually launched to in essence replace what the federal government was giving did not include Shelby County. It didn't include Memphis, Tennessee. Memphis, Tennessee. And so it was a program from its outset that was destructive and disruptive
Starting point is 00:15:54 and did not actually meet the needs of hundreds of thousands of kids, not only in urban areas, but in suburban and rural areas across the state of Tennessee. And so myself and nine of my colleagues today sent him a letter in our demanding that Governor Bill Lee apply for the $84 million of federal funding that's already been allocated for our state to be able to feed hungry children. A lot of people claim Christianity and claim these faith practices. But when it comes to actually feeding hungry people and feeding hungry children, they don't do it. And it's time for this hypocrisy to seize, time for the shenanigans of these games to end by this Republican Party and time to care for people in our communities.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm confused. So he has a program, but it didn't include Shelby County where Memphis is, but he's the governor for the whole state. So was he only trying to feed white rule Tennessee? I mean, he cared about certain children. He just didn't care about our children. He didn't care about our community. Memphis, Shelby County was not included in his pilot program
Starting point is 00:16:55 for trying to replace what the federal government is doing. And right now we're facing a budget deficit of nearly a billion dollars that's being reduced. Even our veterans didn't get a single dollar increase in the budget this year because of the actions of this administration that have been fiscally irresponsible, giving tax breaks to the billion dollar corporations
Starting point is 00:17:14 and not caring or investing in people. But we know this federal program, has resources allocated intentionally to help poor people. That's poor black kids, poor Latina kids, poor white kids, and poor people in the state of Tennessee that we are not getting access to simply because of a decision by this governor and his administration not to care for our children.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And that is so consequential to the health and the well-being of our families, of our communities, but it's devastating to the children who are going to bed hungry at night when they don't have to. The money is there. So often in government, you hear people say, resources are scarce. But right now we know the resources are available. We have a lack of political will and human care affecting and infecting us right now. So they like government money for other things,
Starting point is 00:18:03 but not federal government money when it comes to feed hungry children. In essence, right? You know, when it comes to programs or ideas that they have that they think are going to move forward, this agenda of hurt of harm, sending in the National Guard to places like Memphis and getting federal money to be able to do so, getting federal investment in the form of military occupations that are arresting people unlawfully and unjustly. In Memphis, in Minneapolis, all across the country, those are the types of things that they are amending federal investment. But when it comes to actually meeting the bare needs of people, the dealing with the affordability crisis, feeding hungry kids.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Somehow, Republican Governor Bill Lee is saying he doesn't have a responsibility to them. He doesn't view them as worthy of being able to eat in the summertime when we know they're not getting as much food because the school system is closed. And we know there are hundreds of thousands of people in our state and across the country who rely on food programs to be able to eat meals. That isn't something that should be political. It is not something that should be partisan. It should be something that is a moral issue and a moral question that we should obviously accept our tax dollars back to help the poorest and those who are in the most need,
Starting point is 00:19:21 just like we should be expanding Medicaid in the poorest states in the country so that people can have access to it. And just like we should be making sure there's an Affordable Care Act premiums for people so that their premiums aren't going up to 300% so that they'll be able to afford health care and not worry about dying
Starting point is 00:19:39 because of an illness in a state like ours that has the most medical debt of any state in the United States of America. Their morals and their mentality is misplaced and is placed on the priorities of profit of corporations but not actually caring for people. All right, Representative Pearson, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I appreciate you. Let's keep up the fighting. Yes, sir, indeed. My pales at the Omic Congo to being a senior professor of lecture of school and National Service of American University. Glad to have him with us. also author of Lives About Black People How to Combat Racist
Starting point is 00:20:11 Dr. Terry and Scott, Director of the Institute for Common Power out of Phoenix Arizona. I have both of you here. This is what I don't understand Omicongo, and it is very basic. Federal government allocates this money. It goes to feed
Starting point is 00:20:26 constituents. It goes to feed people. But you have these Republican governors who go, oh, no, no, no. We don't believe in these federal funds, so therefore, we're going to decide that we're just going to turn this money down. I remember doing COVID when all these Republican governors, like Bill Lee, were boasting about their surpluses.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Do you know why they had a surplus? Because of federal money. Absolutely. And it's amazing that this continues to happen when you see these governors show a clear callous mindset for the people of their state. They don't care if it's red or blue in terms of the people who voted for them or did not vote. forum. Yes, obviously, when they talk about, you know, excluding areas that include Memphis, there are Republicans who live there. There are white people who live in these spaces as well,
Starting point is 00:21:16 clearly not as many as people who may be affiliated with the Democratic Party or who are just black and brown. But I always find myself asking, where are the people? Where are the people in Tennessee who can say, you know, I voted for you. Why are you doing this? Why are you destroying my family as well? I think some of these, these citizens of these states, they're comfortable with it all being burned to the ground as long as some other folks don't get ahead, as long as we don't get fed, as long as other brown folks in their communities don't get fed, because this is absolutely atrocious. I mean, they have this mindset of, well, I guess, you know, we'll get fed some other way.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But these are people who are never going to be leaders for all of the people, but enough of these white Republicans in these states are not standing up and speaking up. And so people like Bill Lee, they could get away with this continuously. And again, Roland, I've been watching the news all day. this is the first time that I'm seeing this story talked about anywhere. It's been written in some articles here and there, but in terms of news and television and alike,
Starting point is 00:22:12 it's not being disgusting. This is another way why these guys get over, and it's disgusting, and I'm so thankful for representatives like Pearson who are out there talking about this and for you who are doing it, but when the people of these states start to stand up, when the people lead, the leaders will follow, and there are too many people in Tennessee who are just complacent and comfortable with this happening,
Starting point is 00:22:31 even if it's at their own expense. And we can talk about everything from what's going to happen in the school budget cuts, you know, other things that are affecting the poor meals on wheels programs, programs affecting senior citizens run down the list. So many of this is getting cut, but they don't really seem to care. And that's why these governors continue to get over. Terry Ann, the reality is what we're facing. It's an attack on poor people, specifically an attack on poor black people and poor Latinos and others.
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Starting point is 00:25:00 What we keep saying, people are going to have to rise up and take to the streets, nonviolent protest, but also they've got to maximize their voting power because we're seeing this all across the country. And as long as people are willing to sit elections out, these crazy, deranged MAGA people will hold power. That's right. And I think your point that it is tied completely to the vote is a valid one. And to say that people are not rising up, the point that you made earlier that we are not seeing this on the news cycles. That's exactly right. So if we keep people in ignorance, then they don't know what's happening. And so they are less prone to rise up. When the governor was asked why he's doing this, he said he didn't want to expand welfare. He didn't believe in welfare. Well, that's rich. Rich from Republicans who give welfare and tax cuts to their buddies. But he believes this to be welfare. But clearly he doesn't. He sees it as welfare for a very select group of individuals. Ron, the question that,
Starting point is 00:25:58 that you asked the representative was the right one. Why Memphis, why specifically Memphis is being cut out of that? It is very challenging for us to remove race from the equation for why he is doing this. And so we know that there are people outside of Memphis who are white, who are MAGA, who to your point, are perfectly happy with not having those benefits extended either to themselves or to people
Starting point is 00:26:20 within their communities so long as black or brown does not benefit from those things. And this will continue to happen. When we talk about the importance, of the vote and people say it doesn't matter. Number one, we know that there are local elections that are won or lost by a handful of votes. Number two, if your vote didn't matter, then Republicans wouldn't go to such efforts to stop you from casting it. And so it is important for us to understand that even something like a summer program for food and secure children is tied to our elections.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Indeed, indeed. All right, folks. Oh, tight one second. I've got to go to a break and come back. We're going to talk about ICE in Minneapolis. Illinois and Minneapolis are now suing ice as a result. You've got some other wild things happening out here with Trump saying, oh, my God, whites have been so hurt because how dare Congress passed in 1964 Civil Ice Act? Yeah, I've got a couple of things to say about that. So we'll break it all down. We come back right here on Rolla Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Next on the black table with me, Greg Carr. America is being reshaped in real time by a group of six people, unelected, and without any checks and balances. By the end of the current Supreme Court session, education, the workplace, who gets to elect our leaders, and so much more could radically change. This week, we reconvene our legal roundtable and look at what the new America may look like and how we should respond. That's next on the black table right here on the Black Star Network. I'm Ryan Wilson, CEO co-founder of the Gathering Spot, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Well, the twice impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief Donald Khan Trump's Justice Department
Starting point is 00:28:35 is going after Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. The DOJ is looking into Powell due to the $2.5 billion renovation of the central bank's headquarters. The investigation focuses on Powell's congressional testimony regarding the project, which is connected to allegations of misleading information provided to Congress about the renovation's cost and scope. Powell released this video, frankly, slamming this investigation. On Friday, the Department of Justice served the Federal Reserve with grand jury subpoenas,
Starting point is 00:29:07 threatening a criminal indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That testimony concerned in part a multi-year project to renovate historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have deep respect for the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy. No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve, is above the law.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But this unprecedented action should be seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and ongoing pressure. This new threat is not about my testimony last June or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings. It is not about Congress's over. oversight role, the Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to keep Congress informed about the renovation project.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Those are pretexts. The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences of the President. This is about whether the Fed will be able to continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by political pressure or intimidation. I have served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, Republicans and Democrats alike.
Starting point is 00:30:30 In every case, I have carried out my duties without political fear or favor focused solely on our mandate of price stability and maximum employment. Public service sometimes requires standing firm in the face of threats. I will continue to do the job the Senate confirmed me to do with integrity and a commitment to serving the American people. Well, folks, this is not sat well with Republicans and Democrats. I go to my iPad, Anthony. This is a tweet posted from North Carolina Senator Republican Tom Tillis. Now, it's amazing how he got so he got a lot of guts dealing with Trump because he announced he was not running for re-election in November.
Starting point is 00:31:13 He said if there were any remaining doubt, whether advisors within the Trump administration, are actively pushing to end the independence of the Federal Reserve, there should now be none. It is now the independence and credibility of the Department of Justice that are in question. I will oppose the confirmation of any nominee for the Fed, including the upcoming Fed Chair, vacancy, until this legal matter is fully resolved. Now, keep in mind in a couple of weeks, Supreme Court is going to be hearing oral arguments concerning Donald Trump's attempt to dismiss Federal Reserve Board Governor Lisa Cook, African-American.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Trump's previously fired Cook, again, the first African-American woman to serve as a Federal Reserve governor citing allegations of mortgage fraud, which, of course, have never been proven whatsoever ever. As I said, there are other Republicans and Democrats who have been blasting these actions with the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Terry Ann, let's just be clear. Donald Trump has been attacking the Federal Reserve since these MAGA idiots put them back in the White House because he wants them to lower interest rates because his economy sucks. So he's been blaming Jerome Powell for everything and Powell was saying, dude, the reason the economy is bad because you're a dumb-ass tariffs.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Right, right. So number one, let's make it very clear that there have been no criminal charges placed against Cook. So I think that's important for us to understand. These are false claims coming from the administration in an effort to unseat her. And as you noted, a long line of black women that he has worked to unseat.
Starting point is 00:32:44 because of whatever threat he feels from the success of black women. Number two, I think it's very important that Powell did this, to come out and say very clearly that they are investigating me under a pretense of me misusing funds for changing, for creating changes to a federal building, which is really quite ironic given that half of the White House has been knocked down to build some gaudy ballroom. And so Paul has said this and said, no, the reason is is because I essentially won't cowtale to the whims of a wannabe dictator. And so I think it's important for him
Starting point is 00:33:16 to be public about that because now what he is beginning to do is garner support from both sides. And the more visible he can make this, and the more that he can let people know that this is an attack because Trump wants to be able to control Trump and his cronies, not just him,
Starting point is 00:33:32 want to be able to control the economy and by extension, cutting interest rates without analysis, without fact, destroy an economy, Paul says, I'm not going to allow you to do that, and I'm not going to allow you to scapegoat me for that. On the Congo, you can tell that this is bipartisan because a number of former Federal Reserve leaders have weighed in. They released this statement on the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve's
Starting point is 00:33:56 independence and the public's perception of that independence are critical for economic performance, including achieving the goals of Congress, has set for the Federal Reserve's of stable prices, maximum employment, and moderate long-term interest rates. The reported criminal inquiry into Federal Reserve Chair Joe J. Powell is an unprecedented attempt to use prosecutorial attacks to undermine that independence. This is how monetary policy is made in emerging markets with weak institutions with highly negative consequences for inflation and the functioning of their economies more broadly. It is no place in the United States whose greatest strength is the rule of law, which is at the foundation of our economic success. Ben Bernanke,
Starting point is 00:34:38 who served two chairs as chair, the board of governors or the Fed under President, George W. Bush, Jared Bernstein, who was chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Joe Biden. Jason Furman was chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Obama. Tim Geithner was the 75th Secretary of the Treasury under Obama. He was also president and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Republican Senator Phil Graham of Texas served as chair the Senate Banking Committee. Alan Greenspan served five terms as chair of the Board of Governors of the Third. They had first appointed by President Ronald Reagan, reappointed by President George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
Starting point is 00:35:15 He was also chaired the Council of Economic Advisors under President Gerald Ford. Glenn Hubbard served as chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President George W. Bush. Jacob Liu served as Secretary of the Treasury under President Obama. Gregory Mankew. served as Chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President George W. Bush. Henry Paulson served as a chair secretary secretary secretary under President George W. Bush, Keneth Rolgoth, who, of course, the Maridius, Bose Professor of International Economics at Harvard University, former Chief Economist,
Starting point is 00:35:44 the International Monetary Fund. Christina Romer. So this chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Obama, Bob Rubin, chair of chair secretary under President Bill Clinton, also serving as the first director of the White House National Economic Council, and Janet Yellen served as the Secretary of the Treasury under President Biden. She was the chair and vice chair of the Board of Governors of the Fed. Chair of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Bill Clinton, also served as president's
Starting point is 00:36:09 CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. So Omic Congo, a broad group there, Republicans, Democrats, serving under numerous presidents showing how Donald Trump's attack is on the independence. But here's the reality. Donald Trump wants to be King Trump. He wants to control everything. So he doesn't give a damn about Congress. He doesn't care about the judiciary.
Starting point is 00:36:31 He doesn't care about the independence of the Federal Reserve. He wants to be the one who determines everything, having all power being almighty. Well, this is what he told us last week in that interview. The only thing that can stop me is my mind, my own limitations, my own morality. He actually had the term the audacity to use the term morality. And he's also extremely vindictive. So anybody who he doesn't like, if he went through trials, they have to go through trials. This is why he's still trying to go after Lettissa James.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Now going after her for something relating to her hairdresser. I mean, seriously, I mean, Jerome Powell is somebody who has stood up with dignity to Trump from the very beginning. We all remember that press conference and they were standing next to each other and they were talking about the building and Powell was correcting him in real time about the cost of things, which Trump couldn't stand because he's not used to being corrected in real time. This man's term ends in May of this year, even though he stays on the board of governors until 2028. In terms of the chair position, he's almost out the door. But Trump can't stand this. I believe the reason why we're seeing a lot of this bipartisan, these comments coming from members of the Senate and former people who had his positions
Starting point is 00:37:38 and other financial experts is because this is going to be messing with their money. This is going to be messing with the stock market. This is going to be messing with their investments. The independence of the Fed is the thing that separates us from being like other countries, as was mentioned in that statement. And so these guys, you start talking about their money, there's going to start to be a change. You're going to start to see more of more interventions publicly, privately for members of the business community as well.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Just how you're kind of seeing when somebody's big oil execs who are like, we're not really going into Venezuela. What are you talking about? It's an uninvestable for us right now. And so I think this joint statement is powerful. You're going to start to see more Republicans speaking up. Obviously, going to have more Democrats speaking up. But the question is going to become, what actions are they going to start taking?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Tom Till is talking about slowing down appointments. Yeah, that would have been real nice at the beginning of this administration, right? But like you said, he's not running again so he can feel like he has a little bit of more gumption right now, but Donald Trump's only going to become more emboldened, which means that these leaders have to become more emboldened and how they act to stop him before it's too late.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Absolutely. All right, folks. Lots of more to talk about on today's show. A quick break, we come back. A.A. reporter for a black newspaper in Jacksonville has got folks all in a tizzy because she offered encouraging words to Jessica Jaguars and coach
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Starting point is 00:43:43 It took place in Jacksonville. It was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth in the fourth quarter, and then the Bills finally scored. Jacksonville. The game ended on an interception by Trevor Lawrence. That was, of course, Jacksonville fans were, you know, sad. and by that. They won the AMC South. Of course, my Texans came
Starting point is 00:44:03 in second, and they were trying to win this playoff game after having a dismal three of the last three or four years. So, at the postgame news conference, Jacksonville, Jaguars, head coach, Limcon was at the podium. And then this exchange
Starting point is 00:44:19 happened with Jacksonville free press reporter, Lynn Jones Turpin. Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News. I just want to tell you, congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up, all right? You guys have had a most magnificent season. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He did a great job out there today. So you just hold your head up, okay? And ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you're the one, all right? You keep it going. We've got another season, okay? I appreciate it. Take care of much continued success to you and the entire team. Thank you, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Well, y'all, that I had the sports journals and world in a tizzy. You had lots of reporters who were saying, oh, my God, she's wrong. That was grossly unprofessional. How dare she do that? That's not how reporters are supposed to. to operate. You're supposed to be there and ask questions and not be a fan. Well, Lynn Jones Turpin, she's been doing the rounds talking to different, different people.
Starting point is 00:45:11 She joins us right now. Lynn, glad to have you here on Rolla Martin Unfiltered. So take us through. First of all, do you cover all of the games or were you only there for yesterday and how long have you been doing what you do there for Jacksonville, with Jacksonville Free Press? Yes, covered the games. How are you doing, Roland? I'm going to talk to you. Appreciate the call. Yes, I'm at the games. I've been affiliated with the Jaguar Games. More than 25 years. I was with the Jacksonville Jaguars under the tulip. Tom Coughlin. I worked in the season of first. So I've been attending the games. I report on the games. I've been a reporter. I'm with the Black Press. And this is what we do. So it wasn't nothing. It wasn't not normal. They were talking about my credentials and what I shouldn't be credentialed. The season is.
Starting point is 00:46:01 is over. The bottom line. The man came out. He was emotional and he's carrying the weight of our city, this team, his staff on him. And as a matter of fact, Rowland, it just came out, tell you the truth. It just came out. To formulate a question and get back into the game, the game is over. The game is over and we headed into next season. So the more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
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Starting point is 00:48:14 Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Had you ever done this before? I mean, at a press conference or just... No, I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure. There's one way, look, asking questions is one thing. Hey, what happened to this part of the game, whatever, what happened with that.
Starting point is 00:48:41 But had you ever offered words of encouragement to not just football, but any other sport before, was this the first or had you done it before? Definitely. No, no, no, it's not the first. I've always congratulated and tell them much success. And, you know, no, no, that's not the first time. I think it's the first time because it went viral. I think it's the first time because of the kindness.
Starting point is 00:49:03 then number two, you have to realize the Buffalo Bills won that game. So, in fact, remains that Jaguars are getting this recognition from about a coach who didn't win the game. That seems to me to be the issue, but yet you're dissecting what I said to him, which was only positivity. And I don't know, but there's no protocol on what I can ask or what I can say. So there was no confusion for myself. So you say no protocol.
Starting point is 00:49:31 So for instance, for Adam Shepter, ESPN, he had posted, this is an awesome postgame exchange between a reporter and Jaguars head coach at Liam Lee. William Cohen. Jamel Hill said there can't be a reporter because if so, I would not have used the term awesome. Pat McAfee of ESPN has defended you calling people who are complaining about what you had to say,
Starting point is 00:49:53 a bunch of curmudgins. And again, what you have here is you have this back and forth in terms of how reporters say, this is how reporters are not supposed to operate. And that is you don't cheer in the press box. You don't root for the home team. You do those different things. Those rules.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Exactly. Exactly. So I know those rules. Got you. But we're at a press conference. I'm not no longer in the press box. When I'm in the press box, I follow the rules and the regulation. I've been in the press box since the team set foot on the field.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So yes, I know the rules and regulations. in the press box and I follow those rules without any problem and you and I know both we know that you follow the rules so upon leaving the game and the team I just headed back down you know he go down to the quarter go to the press conference and that's what came up I mean everyone who was asking all these questions and when she gave me the mic it just it just came out brother it just came out because it's trying to look at what oh my god I need to go in the third quarter and the punt in the fifth down the game is over Now, after that, what was it, Josh Allen, I think he came up to the podium, and one of the reporters, he told him, let him know, excuse me, I think I've already answered that question.
Starting point is 00:51:13 So sometimes you can have a barrage of questions, and everybody's asking the same question. So it didn't mean that, oh, I'm his fan. I've never met him. I don't know the coach. I know the coach who he is for Jaguars. He came here. It's been a year, Dubol, this and that. But I was it trying to be a fan?
Starting point is 00:51:30 I don't know. But yes, I am a fan. But I know my personal working relationship with the Jaguars, with the Black Press, and what I do as a reporter. So it just happened and it came out to give this man a congratulatory and to say, hey, keep your head of your man. You the one. I mean, I didn't know that would cause such a riff. But it's been quite positive, not for myself, the paper. all the young people in this city,
Starting point is 00:52:01 people who I know, who know me personally, didn't even see it, but they heard my voice. I have a lot of young people, and I'm president, well, I'm VP now, the Association of Black Journalists here, and a lot of our members, young people, and he told me when I went to the station today, he said he had just lost a love of his,
Starting point is 00:52:21 and the words, he heard him, and it encouraged him. So a lot of people just heard my words, rolling from around the world. It had nothing to do with, oh, I'm, oh, I'm a fan. Oh, you did this. I let the man know you did have a most magnificent season. We are 13 and 5. And what was wrong with that? I got a kick out of black folks when at first they said, oh, they said, I don't even know who asked that question. They said, but I know that's an auntie asking that question. So black people talk, so that they've been calling you an auntie, they said, said, that sound just like a black auntie right there.
Starting point is 00:53:02 This was a tweet from Brian Shable. He said, I've known Lynn for about 10 and 11 years. We usually sit in the same section of the press box. She brings such positivity to every game, even during the many losing seasons. No one was more excited than she was about the Jags performance against the Titans last week. She's a wonderful person, and I'm so happy that this has been received so positively. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yes, and it has. As a matter of fact, I guess I was on with Kenan Thompson and Kevin Hart today. I'll be on this. I don't know if I was supposed to say that, but I'll be on this show tomorrow, 8 p.m. on prime video,
Starting point is 00:53:40 so watch out for me. I have to, you know, get Kevin Wright telling him to keep his head up and stay in the game. So this is one of the things that, so let's be real clear, okay, and Wesley Lowry has written about this as well. Because what happens is in our business, you have this what is called objectivity.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And that is when you're a reporter, you're supposed to be objective, you're not supposed to show favor, you're not supposed to be against, not supposed to be four, you're supposed to be even killed. But one of the things that he talked about in the past is that, that objectivity actually was not always the case,
Starting point is 00:54:16 that that really came about in the 30s or something along those lines. And one of the things that also that is hard for a lot of people to understand is that those of us in black-owned media, we've operated by our own rules. We haven't operated by the rules of white media. So when you talk about,
Starting point is 00:54:34 so when you talk about in terms of reporting relationships, I mean, what people don't understand that in Little Rock, Arkansas, when they were plotting the Little Rock Nine, when they were plotting that, the black press was actually in the room with them, and the relationship between MLK and Lorone Bennett, as well as Simeon Booker,
Starting point is 00:54:54 between Ebony and Jet and so a lot of folk really have no understanding in terms of when we talk about the black press how we operate by our rules not y'all rules
Starting point is 00:55:10 Roland you know what you're talking about okay we're talking about the black press come on 190 years this morning 230 I say this every day More than 230 African-American newspaper printing in this country today. And I'm from hail from the great city of Detroit, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Well, the Michigan Chronicle has been around since 1935. In Philly, they've been printing the Philadelphia Tribune since 1884. We've been around since 1986. The Florida Star here has been around since 1955. So there's an African-American newspaper in every city in this country. Now, I know there was an issue in the NNPA, and we're talking about the black press and we do do things our way and this is our press it's just that we need more exposure subscriptions advertising this that's the level that we're extending to for our next level when you're
Starting point is 00:56:07 talking about news and newspapers but we we're not just newspapers anymore to you on social media you have all your social media accounts podcasts and so forth so I had a friend long I had a friend longtime journalist uh long time sports journalism who said, you know, I will not have done this. This is, you know, not what, you know, not what we do. And this is what I said. I said, man, this is the most attention to black paper in Jacksonville has ever gotten. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I said, so, you know, I said, so Bob Lyon is, so again, that's how, that's how I look at it. So my whole deal is, you Jacksonville, free press, ride this sucker to the wheels fall on. Talk to me. That's what we doing. Come on, I got a Washington Post article coming out tomorrow. I've been on from NFL, CBS. We're doing this, okay? So listen, you need to come on my podcast pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So, yeah, we're definitely taking advantage of this. But I think, like I said, taking it out of context and really deciphering my comments. But then, too, Roland, you have to know that everything is politicized, too, in that other world. Well, again, again, it's... I understand from the journalistic perspective. I understand in terms of how we're supposed to operate, behave. But here's the whole deal. Here's the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And I'll just say this here. The reality is they're a colonist. They're a colonist. And this is also people to understand about journalism. First of all, when you say journalism, that's an umbrella term. You can be an opinion columnist and be a reporter, beat writer. You literally are under the same umbrella. And so a columnist could say exactly what you said in a column,
Starting point is 00:57:59 and nobody would say anything about that. You just actually said it there at the news conference in front of everybody else with a coach standing there. So I understand all the hardcore journalism people. This is not what we do. This is how we operate. I get that. But the reality is, again, if your publishing ain't got no problem with it, if your bosses are fine with it, but then that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's how it works there. And in fact, this was, I came across this. This was Pat McAfee's response. Hell yeah. Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press, 27 seconds. Just to let Liam Cohen know. Probably, I'm assuming, we need to reach out to Miss Lynn Jones. Obviously, we will try to do that.
Starting point is 00:58:46 We should have done that better journalism on our report. We'll talk about journalism here in a second. But probably somebody that's been around for a little bit. bit, probably been around a little bit and just saying, hey, nobody expects you to do that this year. You know, you should hold your head up high. We appreciate you here in this city. You know, we probably said, talk to each other here a lot through the last season. You know, that's every day. The local crew is like, I'm not saying Lynn is. I'm just saying the local crew is like an everyday thing. Just won't let you know, you did a good job this year. We appreciate you. 27 seconds.
Starting point is 00:59:15 27 seconds. It's a lot of time. 27 seconds of, hey, yeah, good stuff. And then, you know, know, everybody in the sports journalism world say, this is out of the line. This. This? Unbelievable. Can't do it. Can't have it. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:59:34 We got deadlines. What's your deadline? A tweet? What are we even talking about now in 2026 about a deadline? Everybody's on a deadline. First tweet out wins in everything. We are all trying to post stuff now at the same exact time. Now, I know you've got to write an entire article, and those 27 seconds can certainly change,
Starting point is 00:59:51 especially if those 27 seconds. seconds are supposed to be meant on miserable, terrible things. Okay? If they're supposed to be miserable, terrible things, those 27 seconds aren't wasted. If those are dumb questions about things that you don't have right that happened on a football field that you just thought were happening, those 27 seconds are a okay.
Starting point is 01:00:07 But a positive, hey, you did good for us this year. We appreciate you. For 27 seconds, can't have it. No place for it. Can't have it. It's like, what a weird thing to come out publicly and say, this is disgusting. Who do you think you want to say that you think that's disgusting
Starting point is 01:00:29 and it matters? Like that is a crazy thing about the sport. So how soon are you going to be on ESPN? I think I have him tonight, matter of fact. I think I have him tonight. It's amazing, Roland. It's amazing. You know, the work we do and being around the country, been doing this a long time. So I appreciate it. I appreciate the viral moment here.
Starting point is 01:00:52 and just say it's a pleasure we had a winning season. I'm a winning reporter and I'm just thankful. Thank you for being on your show and ready for the next phase, both. And again, I hope as you, so as you do these, so first of all, I hope as you're doing them, you're telling people like, so Jacksonville Free Press, what's your website?
Starting point is 01:01:18 www. www.jaxonbillfreepress.com. we're at on Facebook at Jacksonville Free Press Okay Jacksonville Free Press and who is your owner Sylvia Sylvia Perry Okay so tell Sylvia Okay, all right
Starting point is 01:01:36 So I may have met Sylvia at an NMPA event I may have met her there so Tell Sylvia right now I need you tell Sylvia right now I need to see I need Sylvia to get with the person running the website, and I need Sylvia. You're trash today.
Starting point is 01:01:58 No, no, it's up right now. It's up. I got it up right now, okay? All right. So, okay, so I need them to change the website right now. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:09 So get rid of that slideshow. Need to have you. Need to have you at the top. Get rid of that slideshow. Kwanla celebrated on the First Coast is old. Okay. Need you to the top. I need a big-ass donate button.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I need a big-ass banner at the top. Okay? Yes. Okay. If the Mayo Clinic ain't paying, y'all, get rid of that. Get rid of that. Get rid of that. Come on rolling.
Starting point is 01:02:31 No, no, no, no. No, no. I don't know. I don't know. I'm telling you, rolling, rolling. Follow me. No, no, no. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Hold on. Lean, I'm trying to get, Liam, I'm trying to get you more money. So, follow me here. Okay, go ahead. So I need, I need Sylvia, to put a big-as donut button up here. Donate button.
Starting point is 01:02:49 say support the paper, get your subscription, support us, same way we do. And so, because y'all are getting way more attention. Y'all going all around the globe.
Starting point is 01:03:03 It's called maximizing the moment. So don't sit, all these interviews. These interviews are free. That don't mean nothing and if they ain't helping the paper. So, tell folk, if they want to support
Starting point is 01:03:16 the black press, they want to support layout. Hey, you want to hire more reporters? This is what we look at looking to raise. And so when you, so, and I'm telling, I'm not lying. I would sit here. So when you, Kevin's show and the rest of them say, hey, we want y'all to be supporting Black on media as well.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And so we're trying to, we're trying to hire interns or whatever. I'm saying while all this attention y'all getting maximize this, Lynn. We're doing it. We're doing it. We got some calls tonight. We're doing it. We have our attorney on the phone. Everything's moving forward.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yes, sir. But I want a big-ass donate button on the website. We talked to our website guy already today, Kermit out in Houston. No Regret Media. We're working it. We got some T-shirts coming out. We got a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So anything you could suggest, we greatly appreciate it. And thank you so much. We appreciate you coming to Jacksonville, EWC. Okay, Roland, thank you. So I appreciate it. Now, listen. Now, let me real clear. You see who I'm rocking.
Starting point is 01:04:22 You see who I rep. Oh, yes, I see. Yeah, you see who I rep. So just want to let you know, we're going to handle the business tonight for the AMC South. Okay, all right. The Texas is going to represent the AMC South tonight. Just want to go ahead and let you know that.
Starting point is 01:04:40 All right, word up. And listen, keep your head up and much continued success to you. I appreciate it. And I hope this is great. So y'all sell a bunch of shows. get to make a bunch of money and support black press. We shall definitely do it. All right, Lynn, thanks a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Good luck. Again, Terry Ann, I understand again, I've been in journalists as I was 14 years old. I get the whole deal. But listen, I'm like, yo, make some lemonade, make some lemonade, make some lemonade. That's what I want to say. That's my whole deal. I mean, again, black press never get attention, okay, unless something bad. I remember when I ran a Chicago defender.
Starting point is 01:05:18 every time something went wrong, it made headlines. And when I took over, I said, no, we got to change these headlines because it can't all be bad news every time they bring us up. But this is one of those moments, again, where you maximize a moment.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I want them to maximize the hell out of this moment. Not only maximize a moment, I am so glad that the two of you talked about the history of the black press in the work, because I'm a historian by training. So in the work that I do, I talk about the bad black press. I've researched it. I have discussed how they are the reason for the season for the reintegration of the NFL in 1946, in large measure for the integration of MLB in 1947, for so
Starting point is 01:06:00 many things, one after another, encouraging the great migration. The black press was at the center of that. So it's beautiful to watch another moment where the black press can be on a national light. And as far as what she said, I was scrolling this morning about 4 a.m. and saw what she said. I was shocked to hear that there was any pushback and criticism. This was a human moment. And she was telling this young man and his whole countenance, his whole disposition changed when she was talking to him. So, you know, kudos to her for doing that.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And I'm so glad that you pulled up the website and said, hey, gave a little direction. Make sure that you capitalize on this because the black press and that paper in particular deserves the visibility. Only Congo, when it first happened, I knew the reaction was going to be. I knew what it was going to be. And again, I understand our business, the rules, how things are supposed to go.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I understood that. And my whole deal was, when I heard it, I knew this was a sister. So I didn't know what. And here's the deal. I didn't know if she was a reporter. I didn't know if she was a family member. I didn't know any of that whole deal. But I do think folk can get too crazy with this.
Starting point is 01:07:14 as Pat Macbitt said, it was 27 seconds. It was 27 seconds, and you know what? I'm going to say it again. The Jacksonville Free Press ain't never, ever, ever. Matter of fact, I say this right now.
Starting point is 01:07:29 If you take every black newspaper in America and all the black papers combined in the last year ain't got this much attention. And so I love the fact that when she goes,
Starting point is 01:07:44 on. She mentions NNPA. She mentions the Black Press of America in the papers as well. So that's how I see this thing. Well, yeah, and I appreciate it. What Jimahill also said on her page, you know, she was like, y'all spending so much time critiquing, y'all should spend as much time going to the website or the social media for this newspaper and actually following it and support it. You know, why not do that while you're talking all of this stuff? Look, I can't remember the last time I heard, basically a human moment, you know, in these press conferences as it relates to this particular interaction. Some people may get up there, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:20 be emotional about a loss or so on and so forth, but I'm talking about the interaction. But on the flip side, Roland, people are quick. Remember what they did with LSU and Angel Reese? I mean, you got these journalists out there who will do everything to demonize black athletes, sexualize them in the case of Angel Reese and some of these guys out there
Starting point is 01:08:37 and paint them in all of these negative lights. And people don't give them nearly as much critique or condemnation. as they rightfully. The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
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Starting point is 01:10:43 deserve. And so to have a situation like this happened, I think it's beautiful, but not only is it beautiful, the positive feedback that she's receiving in a world of so much negativity in and outside of sports. To have this moment and to be recognized for it is beautiful. But like you said, Roland, in the way that war that we live in now, you also got to monetize that joint. So you got to make that happen too. Oh, absolutely. Hey, I'm telling you, Jacksonville, y'all, I mean, get them shirts printed now. Get that donate button up now. And all of these celebrities have you on their show,
Starting point is 01:11:23 tell them cut a check to the Jacksonville Free Press. I'm telling you right now, I'm going to go ahead and say it, Sylvia, y'all need to put a request of a quarter of a million dollars. And so say you want to create four journalism fellowships with that quarter of a million dollars for folks to be able to be able to. to be on staff and report.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Hey, I ain't got, in the words of Frank Lucas from American Gay and say, I'm going to get that money. That's right. I ain't got, I ain't got, no, I got no problem asking for that money at all. All right, y'all. Going to a break. We come back, Black and Star Network headlines with Britney
Starting point is 01:12:04 Noble. We're going to talk about Trump. Oh, my God, white people. Hey, it's been so rough for them since the Civil Rights Act passed. So yeah, what was life life of black people before that was passed? A lot of people talk about now second hour. We'll be right back. Rolling
Starting point is 01:12:20 Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network. They said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat. So they erased them. After the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Republican legislatures moved fast. New voter ID laws,
Starting point is 01:12:39 polling place shutdowns, purges of black voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it, they joined in. In 2018, his DOJ backed Ohio's voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased black voters, their goal, erase black votes, and political power. Yeah, that happened.
Starting point is 01:13:01 These are the kinds of stories that we cover every day on Roland Martin unfiltered. Subscribe on YouTube and download the Black Star Network app. Support fact-based independent journalism that centers African Americans and the issues that matter to our community. Hey, everybody. I'm T.D. Jakeson. I want to encourage you to watch Roland Martin unfiltered. It'll blow your mind. Now is time for our Blackstar Network.com headlines with Brittany Noble.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Brittany, what up? A medical group has a small victory against the Trump administration. A federal judge blocked the White House from canceling a nearly $12 million grant. The American Academy of Pediatrics was at risk of losing funding after a class. with the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., over changes to the vaccine policy. Judge Burrell Howe issued the ruling after finding that the medical group was likely to prevail in its claim that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services retaliated against it. AAP has emerged as a vocal critic of major changes to the federal vaccine policy under Kennedy,
Starting point is 01:14:34 who founded the Anti-Vacine Group Children's Health Defense. Well, Detroit Mayor Mary Sheffield is a woman on a mission, and she's making history. as she goes. Just four days after being sworn in as mayor, she unveiled the RX Kids, a Michigan State University initiative launched in 2024. The program will help support families by providing funds for essentials such as utilities, diapers, food, and medical care. Your state program is set to pay Detroit moms and their babies $105 million in cash. What Trump says, Sean Diddy Combs is reaching out to him for help. He told the New York Times that Diddy had formally, formally submitted a request for a presidential pardon.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Unfortunately for the falling music mogul, Trump does not intend to grant the pardon anytime soon. However, the deadline reports that Diddy's former criticism of Trump during his first term severely cut his chances of a pardon. Curtis 50 Cent Jackson's urging Trump not to issue a pardon. Well, more than 10 major artists will not play at the Kennedy Center due to its non-woke program. So far, artists and productions have pulled the plug, including Hamilton, Issa Ray, and L.L. CoolJ., just to name a few. Shonda Rimes resigned from the sender's board of trustees. This was after Trump turned the venue into one of his pet projects. He purged board members and installed himself as the new chairman, backed by new bylaws.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Well, the people's champion, Muhammad Ali, will be honored with the U.S. postage stamp. The three-time heavyweight champion boxers regarded as the most famous and influential boxer of all time. This is the first time he's appearing on the U.S. stamped. During his lifetime, he received numerous awards, including the Olympic medal in 1960, the United Nations Messenger of Peace Award in 1998, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005. He died in 2016 at the age of 74 after living with Parkinson's disease for more than three decades. Well, husband and wife, movie stars, Megan Good, and Jonathan Majors have obtained citizenship in Guinea after tracing their ancestry to the West African nation through DNA testing. The citizenship ceremony is a private cultural event organized by the Ministry of Culture.
Starting point is 01:16:55 It took place at a tourist and cultural center. The couple expressed their longtime plan to have a home there and to potentially spend more time there. Roland? Right. Brittany, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, y'all. So what did I say one year ago? I literally said that MAGA is about defunding Black America.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I said MAGA's whole focus is fixated on doing all they can to destroy, to literally destroy the entire black infrastructure. They want to destroy the black political infrastructure. they want to destroy the black economic infrastructure. They want to destroy nonprofits. I mean, I can go on and on and on what their entire effort is in terms of what it is that they actually want to do. And remember, remember when Charlie Kirk was attacking a Civil Rights Act of 1964,
Starting point is 01:17:55 y'all pulled that up. And so why is that important? Because this is who they are. This is what they are about. Now, well, Donald Trump did an interview with the New York Times, and Donald Trump talked about the Civil Rights Act and talked about how, oh, my God, how white people, how it is hurt white people so much as a result of the 64 Civil Rights Act. Now, you might say, well, wait, wait, wait, hold up. Did he actually say that? Yeah, he actually said it.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Y'all, pull the article up as well. But I told y'all this was coming. I told you that these people, they've always despise the 64 Civil Rights Act, the 65 Voting Rights Act, and the 1965, in the 1968 Fair Housing Act. They believe, they believe that the downfall of America began with these civil rights laws. They do. They do. They believe in it. That's what they actually think. And so they've always trashed it. You know, this is Charlie Kirk right here. talking about MLK in a civil rights act. Listen.
Starting point is 01:19:05 We note in our piece that Kirk describes King as, quote, a bad guy. It's true. And Kirk self-described very, very radical. View that the country made a mistake when it passed the Civil Rights Act. Also true. As we note in the piece, Kirk has previously described Kirk as a hero and a civil rights icon. It's true. I used to be wrong.
Starting point is 01:19:24 What inspired Kirk to shift his view on MLK? Why does Kirk think that MLK is a bad guy? when Kirk says that MLK says, quote, one good thing he didn't believe? What does he mean by that? Why does Kirk believe passing the Civil Rights Act was a mistake? Now, again, apparently they don't listen to the show because we do that at least once a week, right? Once a week we talk about why the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. We note in our piece that Kirk describes King as, quote, a bad.
Starting point is 01:19:47 You heard what he said? We talk about once a week why the Civil Rights Act was bad. See, so some of y'all might be sitting here saying, okay, well, I, I, I, I, I, I, don't get it. Well, remember when we talked about that, remember what happened? This is Trump right here, revoking the equal employment opportunity, executive order of 1965,
Starting point is 01:20:10 which barred discrimination from housing. It barred discrimination so not housing when it came to government contracts. This is who Donald Trump is. And so when he talks about whites being treated badly, and so
Starting point is 01:20:25 it's because it's all about white grievance. what did I say in my book, White Fear? I said in 2009. In 2009, I said this, that we're living in the age of white minority resistance. I said in 2009 that white people are so angry because of what they believe blacks are getting too much.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And so we've seen that over and over and over again. And so now we see the equal employee, it had the EEOC saying, oh my God, if you're a white, then if you've been discriminated against, please let us know. And so this is the article right here. Trump says civil rights led to white people being very badly treated. So this was the interview with the New York Times. It says, speaking to the New York Times on Wednesday, Trump echo grievances amplified by
Starting point is 01:21:18 Vice President J.D. Vance and other top officials who in recent weeks have urged white men to file federal complaints with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. When asked whether protections that began in the 1960s, spurred by the passage of the Civil Rights Act, had resulted in discrimination against white men, Mr. Trump said he believed, quote, a lot of people were very badly treated. White people were very badly treated where they did extremely well
Starting point is 01:21:43 and they were not invited to go into a university to college. He said in apparent reference to affirmative action in college admissions. So I would say, you know, that way I think it was unfair in certain cases. He added, I think it was also, at the same time, it accomplished some very wonderful things, but it also hurt a lot of people. People that deserve to go to a college or deserve to get a job were unable to get a job.
Starting point is 01:22:04 So it was reverse discrimination. And here we go, it was reverse discrimination. Now, quoted in the article, Derek Johnson, president of NAACP, said, quote, there was no evidence that white men were discriminated against as a result of the civil rights movement, the Civil Rights Act, and efforts to rectify
Starting point is 01:22:22 the long history of this country, denying access to people based on race in every measurable case. category. All right. So I told y'all this was coming. I told y'all. So their entire agenda Project 2025 is about showcasing, oh, oh my
Starting point is 01:22:36 God, how rough these things are for white men. And so we need to understand what people need to wake up in Congo to understand what is happening. They want to destroy any programming, anything dealing with race, because they don't
Starting point is 01:22:54 give a damn about white folks having control. They don't care about discrimination against black people. They don't care about that. Their whole deal is, is, oh, my God, how things have been so awful for white people that let's eradicate all these programs because they think their world is falling apart. What this really is about white folks not been able to handle the browning of America. I've seen so many posts in different places from people saying it's like, y'all literally have everything, you know, the Supreme Court, the House, the Senate, the president, the presidency, you look at the CEOs of corporations, the heads of the majority of these universities,
Starting point is 01:23:34 I mean, you can run down the actual list. And you see people like Christopher Rufel who put it out there clearly that they were going to target us. If you look across every industry, federal workers, people who are getting fired from corporate spaces, people who are being fired from universities, programs that are being cut, university admissions, my daughter's applying in schools this year. You see the numbers decreasing for black people and especially black women across the board. So everything that you see, said in 2009, I remember you talked about being on a panel with somebody from CNN, and they were like, oh, you're just being kind of extra with it. It's all playing out, and it's playing out on steroids,
Starting point is 01:24:08 and it's only, it hasn't even been a full year. We're almost at a full year with this man. So it's only going to be more of it. Stephen Miller's white supremacy has been completely unleashed over, what, 400,000 women now, black women as it relates to the workforce, it is only going to get worse. And then you add ice into it, you add what's going on immigration, you add what's going on with our schools. So when Trump talks about, oh, some people couldn't go to college, which is an absolute lie,
Starting point is 01:24:34 he's trying to have every type of way possible to put out more trigger words to rally up more white people who maybe have a little bit problem with what Trump's doing here and there, but he's giving them more chum. He's giving them more things to say, oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:24:48 They did that. They did that. And so I'm now going to continue to be mad. And the fact that his base keeps falling for it when it's been clear that he doesn't give a damn about them, as long as he continues to give them racism as it relates to us and they keep falling for it.
Starting point is 01:25:00 But at the end of the day, Roland, it is very clear that this was predicted. You stated it clearly in the book and you stated it every year since. And if people don't wake up to that right now, I don't know if they're ever going to wake up. But it's not a question of waking up, Terry Ann. These conservative voters, this is what they believe.
Starting point is 01:25:19 They believe, oh, my God, we're losing opportunities because of those people. And here's what the real deal is. What they cannot stand is they now have to compete. The reality is these white folks have, they've lived this life and all these young white men who are so mad, and they're
Starting point is 01:25:35 not just mad at black people, they also mad at white women, oh, we're losing opportunity. Because see, here's a problem. These white folks believe that every job is theirs. They believe that every spot in a university is theirs. They believe that every contract is theirs. When that white woman
Starting point is 01:25:50 Abigail Fisher sued the University of Texas because she couldn't get in and she had to go to Michigan. Well, when they went through the actual course, they realized that there were white people who had grades less than her, but they were admitted for other reasons. So she was running around thinking,
Starting point is 01:26:10 oh, I didn't get this because of black people. No, boo, you didn't get in the University of Texas because white people got in, not black people. And so this is their problem. They believe, oh, I've got the grades, I've got this, so for them is, How dare you not accept me into the university, but you keep accepting those people?
Starting point is 01:26:31 This is absolutely white supremacy. This is white privilege. This is this belief that we expect everything. When they talk, they say that was my job. That's literally what they say and they think. Yeah, two things. So number one, when we talk about white men and then they are soliciting asking white men
Starting point is 01:26:49 who feel that they have been discriminated against two file suits to come forward, what they are trying to do, I believe is to take this all the way to the Supreme Court. All right, son. Time to put out this campfire. Dad, we learned about this in school. Oh, did you now? Okay. What's first? Smokey Bear said to... First, drown it with a bucket of water, then stir it with a shovel.
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Starting point is 01:27:31 The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. I'm going to take Francesco off the network entirely. The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense. I will continue getting stuff from Target. And I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers, whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent. and articulation.
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Starting point is 01:29:20 And then all bets are off as we go through what qualifies this discrimination. Number two, you are spot on when you are saying that there is this inherent belief that it is rightfully theirs. And so this is how the MAGA nation functions. At its core, at its baseline, is an assumption that they are entitled to all of those things. And by extension, that any person of color who gets it is woefully unqualified. Because it can't be that they are more qualified than the white person who didn't get that thing. If we look back at the race riots that have occurred in this country, 1906 in Atlanta, 1898 in Wilmington,
Starting point is 01:29:53 all of these different race riots that occurred, it is the prosperous black people who are attacked first because it grates on the nerves of local racists that they were able to achieve anything. When we talk about DEI initiatives in this country, there is a conflation that the Trump administration and others have created that conflates DEI with incompetence. The actuality is that women who are white women who are the most benefactors of DEI and people of color who have been given an opportunity because of any kind of initiative, they typically actually have to outperform their white male counterparts. They do better. They score higher. They've gone to better schools. But if they can make a MAGA nation believe that DEI means you are less qualified and you are taking what is rightfully mine because as a white person, it is my thing, then they can create an army of people. to support the initiatives that the administration is putting out, even if those initiatives are going against their core values
Starting point is 01:30:54 and things that will help them advance. So folks just need to understand in terms of what this thinking is. So this is Benny Johnson. Remember he got a whole bunch of money from the Russian company, one of these crazy deranged MAGA folks who's always espousing these white values. Well, listen. And so that's what they did in the military. They actually targeted the military specifically,
Starting point is 01:31:19 installed the wokenest, weakest, saddest, most wicked generals in American history, and they used the military not for war fighting but for societal and social experimentation with their pagan religion. Remember the recruitment ads from the Biden era? I marched for civil rights with my two moms and that's why I'm in the Army.
Starting point is 01:31:53 What? What does that have to do with war fighting? This has not, I mean, again, it was a contagion, a wokeness contagion that traveled through the ranks of the military at light speed by design because they were able to perform institutional capture and try and convert this entire organization to their religion. And that's what they did. And it was very dangerous. and it weakened America and everybody watched what happened in Afghanistan and everybody's watched
Starting point is 01:32:23 what has seen what's happened over the last couple of years with our military, recruit from a number through the floor. Because young men who fight and die in all your wars don't want to sign up to serve under someone who attacks white rape. White rage is how you win a war. That's how America has always won wars. Idiots attack white people. They don't want to serve for a leader.
Starting point is 01:32:48 young white men don't want to sign up for leadership that doesn't know what a man is or that hates white people and then they're going why do we have a recruitment problem because we don't want to be part of your pagan religion i mean because we want to live normal lives outstanding moral lives we have no moral and good nation that's why and this is what they this is what they done the military and this is what's being undone right now This is why young men are signing up at record numbers. To understand, folks, and I keep telling y'all, they hated what took place after George Floyd was murdered.
Starting point is 01:33:36 They hated the response. But the response that these white conservatives hated, they hated that young white people and Latinos and Asian Americans were so shocked and stunned of the callous murder of George Floyd, they began to respond. So they said, oh, no, no, we can't have that. People like Benny Johnson. Oh, yeah, these MAGA people.
Starting point is 01:33:57 They said, oh, Project Heritage Foundation, probably 2025. They said, oh, no, no, no, we can't have that. I don't know. We got to destroy Black Lives Matter. We have to destroy the movement. They attacked B-LM, like they attacked, like they used Co-Intel Pro to attack civil rights organizations. The exact same thing. That was 2021.
Starting point is 01:34:16 2002, all of a sudden, critical race theory. This Christopher Rufo and his whole group. 2003, oh, that's tacked woke. 2004 is tack DEI. So they attach woke and DEI to everything. And so the white rage
Starting point is 01:34:31 that Ben and Johnson is talking about is they want to enrage white people. You have studies now where white people believe that they are twice as likely to face discrimination than black people. How many white folks have you heard impact
Starting point is 01:34:49 about red ladder? How many white people have you heard who have had to deal with homes being appraised at a much lower value than the black people. Y'all come on.
Starting point is 01:35:06 But this is what it is. Because what is happening, Terry Ann, in this city here, what they cannot stand. They cannot stand black success. And so it's, oh no, you're here because you're a DEI. No, I'm here, I can kick
Starting point is 01:35:22 y'all ass. See, that's what they can't stand. So what's driving them crazy is they don't have to compete. So these young white men who are like, oh, my God, I couldn't get a writer's job in Hollywood. Really? And now what have you seen? The videos put out, UCLA, they put out last five years. No, not the last five years.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Last year, it was the whitest in terms of showrunners and leaders of shows, the whitest in five years because what Donald Trump has said is oh, y'all forget diverse you ain't got to hire diverse people so you now have permission go back to how you used to hire hiring your friends
Starting point is 01:36:06 hiring your friends friends and so what they want is they want whiteness what they want is they actually want Jim Crow America just minus the colored fountains they actually make America great again
Starting point is 01:36:23 is really about make America white again. That's what the goal is. And so they want everything white, corporate boards white, universities white. They want contracts white. That's what they want, period. You mentioned George Floyd. So 2020, we have a racial reckoning,
Starting point is 01:36:45 and it's a very important moment in our history. So not only do we have George Floyd and we have the visibility of this kind of violence on television, we saw the video of Ahmad Arbery. We heard the cries of Elijah McLean. All of that is happening within the context of a pandemic. When everybody was home, watching television, where a pandemic that is laying bare the racial disparities in health care and health outcomes
Starting point is 01:37:06 because that pandemic disproportionately impacted people of color. And so all of this coalesces to create this catalyzing moment for people across racial and ethnic boundaries to come together into the streets and be united to fight for change. It was, that was the beautiful kind of silver lining and outcome of 2020. And then what do we have? Then we have a backlash to that progress. And that is nothing new in America.
Starting point is 01:37:31 There is a backlash to the progress of reconstruction. That is how we have the rise of Jim Crow that you are talking about. There was a backlash to the election of President Obama. That's why we have the 2013 Supreme Court case Shelby v. Holder that almost completely gutted the Voting Rights Act. So we are still in the midst of that backlash right now. And so CRT that they equate with something bad, DEI that they equate with unqualified. That's where we are right now.
Starting point is 01:37:59 And we have to fight it. Because if we cannot change the hearts of minds of people, what we can do is legislate the hell out of their ability to harm us. That is why, when we go back to what we talked about in the beginning of this call, that is why the vote is so eminently important. That is why, at my organization, we do the work that we do. You know, this is the reality of, what are where these folks are.
Starting point is 01:38:25 For Trump, he's their great white hope. That's what he is. He's a great white hope. This is more from the New York Times article. Go to my appell. He said, Trump has gone on to equate diversity with incompetence and inferiority and cast himself as the protector of white people, both at home and abroad. Asked on Wednesday whether his immigration agenda was aimed and making the country whiter, Trump said he wanted people to quote, he wanted people quote that love our country. It's very simple, said Mr. Trump, who has carved out exceptions to his crackdown on refugee
Starting point is 01:39:00 admissions for mostly white South Africans. I want people that love our country, he said. Carrying out Mr. Trump's agenda is the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which was formed in 1965 under the Civil Rights Act. The commission's chair, Andrea Lucas, issued a striking video message last month, underlining the agency's new posture. Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex? You may have a claim to recover money under federal civil rights laws. Contact the EEOC as soon as possible. Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Now, see, the thing here, Omicongo is what was also happening is that what they have been doing is they've also been filing various civil rights laws utilizing the laws meant for black people against black people. For instance, you take the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Okay, that was about protecting African Americans from being able to get contracts. They now are filing lawsuits against folk like the Freedom Fund
Starting point is 01:40:12 and others who are creating economic, opportunities for African Americans saying, oh, that this stuff is discriminating against white people. That's what they're doing. They're filing lawsuits saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964, oh, it just hurts them. This is so
Starting point is 01:40:28 what people have to understand is why we connect the dots and why we keep telling people, you've got to be paying attention to what's going on. Why I don't spend my time on all this entertainment and sports and other bullshit because what they want to do, Omicongo, is they want to be able to
Starting point is 01:40:44 get rid of, one, or severely weaken all of these laws to allow the mindset of Jim Crow to come back to have Jim Crow 2.0. Absolutely. You know, I just submitted my manuscript from my next book on Trigger Words, and it talks about how these guys, Republicans, MAGA, even some liberals, use certain words to trigger people to do what. what they want to basically do their bidding or unleash a lot of the hate that was already in them. And so you can see that Trump will never fully answer that question. He'll just say, we want people that love America. But then you'll see him in a press conference that, you know, a few weeks earlier, when he says people from Somalia hate our country and they're garbage people.
Starting point is 01:41:31 And so he's making it clear who he wants. Stephen Miller, the same thing. They'll never say it directly, but they'll just put out policies and they use language. Like, we want people that respect our civilization. J.D. Vance will say things like, you know, 20 neighbor, 20 illegal immigrants in the house. You know, it's not going to speak all these different languages. It's not compatible with English-speaking neighbors.
Starting point is 01:41:50 They run down the list of all of these trigger words. And like you said, it's just all racist. It's not even dog whistles. It's bullhorns. And we're all clear about it. And I wish more of these journalists would be more aggressive. Obviously, they're scared, you know, to do it because they want to keep their access about this line of questioning.
Starting point is 01:42:06 But they're saying enough that we should already know because it's coupled with their policies. It's like James Baldwin said, you know, before. I don't know if you're racist, but I know that I'm not in your unions. I don't know if you're racist, but I, you know, you run down the list. Every single action that they take is racist. When they make these job cuts in even within the federal government, they're primarily keeping the white males in these apartments,
Starting point is 01:42:26 whether it's the Department of Education, run down the list. And so when you see their actions, coupled with what it is that they're saying, just because they're not saying the N-word, just because they're not saying black, every single policy that they have is designed to destroy and defund black American. And like you said, just to make it, just like what they're doing with Obamacare, right? Just to make it so weak, so diluted that it's already gone. And so in using civil rights acts against us in our own, in the work that we're doing
Starting point is 01:42:54 and putting out these bullhorns to let people know, hey, we're coming out here to protect y'all in every way, shape, and form. He has made it clear that this is an administration that is designed to protect white people and specifically white men. And they are not going to make any bones. They're not going to make any apology about it. they're going to claim it. They got whole networks out there that are going to support,
Starting point is 01:43:16 that are supporting them in this mission as well. And once again, Trump said the only thing that can stop him is his own mind and his own morality. And when it comes to black people, he doesn't have any. See, Terrian, what drove that tweet from the head of the EEOC was this article right here. So this white man, Jacob Savage, did this post in compact called The Lost Generation.
Starting point is 01:43:35 And all this thing boomerangned all across social media. And these white folks were just going crazy, talking about, oh, my goodness, and how amazing this was. And so one thing the article says in here, it talked about, oh, how DEI hurt, how, look at this, how DEI really hurt white millennial men. And, oh, the doors seemed to close everywhere
Starting point is 01:44:02 and all at once. In 2011, the year I moved to Los Angeles, white men were 48% of lower-level TV writers. By 2024, accounted for just 11.9%. The Atlantic's editorial staff went from 53% male and 89% white in 2013 to 36% male and 66% white in 2024. Oh, so he satin that it went from 89% white to 66.
Starting point is 01:44:31 White men fell from 39% of tenure track positions in the humanities at Harvard to 2014 to 18% in 2023. See, so really what he's in, and J.D. Vance shared this article. Stephen Miller's share. All the people, they push it out because what drove them crazy was, and this is really what this is all about, Terry Ann, was, what's angering them. What's angry in them is, damn it, why do we have to share? Why do, why must we share?
Starting point is 01:45:03 And then he says something in here. Give me a second. It was hilarious. This may be how Boomer and GenX white men experience. DEI, but for white male millennials, DEI wasn't a gentle rebalancing. It was a profound shift in how power and prestige
Starting point is 01:45:18 were distributed. And so he goes on. So this whole article is complaining about, oh my God, how rough it was for us white men who are millennials. And what the white men who millennials can't handle is this.
Starting point is 01:45:33 That is, you're mad because your grandfather and your dad got to experience a white world. See, what white folks like Jacob and white folks like Trump and white folks like J.D. Vance refused to want to accept is that the reason there was the imbalance
Starting point is 01:45:56 because y'all kept qualified black folk, when I say qualified black folk, qualifying according to your standards. Let me just remind people, South Carolina in South Carolina to become a lawyer, you didn't have to go to law school. You didn't have to go to law school. But it was a black man who became a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:46:22 It said, oh, shit, no, no, no, no, no. We got, we got, no, we got, no, we got to create. We got to create something here. Oh, yeah, yeah. So when you start talking about accreditation and all this sort of stuff, oh, America used to have a number of black medical schools.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Oh, but when they said, we need to be establishing some standards in this country. So therefore, we need to create some medical school standards. Massachusetts of medical schools went away. The reality is white folks have always changed the rule in America. White folks have always changed the rule when black people step in because, well, they can't, no, no, we can't let them in. So now we got to change the rules because we can't, no, no, we can't,
Starting point is 01:47:06 no, we can't let them in our house. And that's exactly what's going on here. And so what they're so mad about, they're so mad that they froze black people out. And so then when the civil rights movement comes up, all of a sudden, the door wasn't blown open. The door was barely cracked. But all of a sudden, black folks began to creep through corporate America.
Starting point is 01:47:33 And black people start getting hired than media. And black people start politics. That trillochism. The little chisom was the first black woman elected to Congress ever didn't happen until the late 60s. And so they're angry that, damn, we white male millennials, why couldn't we get a piece of that white world? So what angers them is they now have to compete. Why these white young men running around pissed off mad at white women? because they're mad the white women took their jobs
Starting point is 01:48:16 because white women are the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action in American history. So, Taran, so the real deal here is what these white folks cannot handle, what white millennials, white male millennials can handle, which is why Nick Fuentes is used as a weapon by the Republicans. This is why the Benny Johnson's of the world,
Starting point is 01:48:40 the Charlie Kirk's of the world, the Ben Shapiro's of the world, they have to speak to white rage because what these white folks can't comprehend is damn you mean tell me that I can't have a madman like world I can't have a world my dad used to grandfather used to be able to smack a woman on the ass and grope her and pop the back of her bra strap I can't act like that in the workplace
Starting point is 01:49:07 because all these damn laws these damn rules damn he didn't tell me that wait a minute DEI programs, while we got to go hire people from these HBCUs, we had Bari Williams on the show. She talked about sitting there in Silicon Valley, and they were going over applications, and the white woman goes, oh, I've never heard of this college, and she threw, so she said, wait, whoa, hold up.
Starting point is 01:49:32 She said, how are we not going to examine the sister's application because she went to a college you ain't never heard of? Because these white folks, oh, no, I don't, I'm sorry, what's a family? you. A spellman? I mean, no, I know the sister, I know Smith College, but what is this spellman thing? The reality is what they desire is to maintain white elitism,
Starting point is 01:50:01 white power structure, white economics, and frees everybody out. And that's why Trump is doing what he's doing. hinged on an assumption, as I alluded to earlier, that people of color, particularly black people, can't possibly achieve this thing. Listen, I got my doctorate from the University of Chicago, and I cannot tell you how many times,
Starting point is 01:50:24 an endless number of times, and I've heard this from other black people from University of Chicago, that somebody has asked me, where are you getting your doctorate? And I'll say, and they correct me. Do you mean whatever other university? No, I said what I mean, because there's an assumption that I couldn't possibly
Starting point is 01:50:39 be there as a black woman. When the Tuskegee Airmen took their exams to become pilots, they outscored their white counterparts to the point where people actually thought that they cheated and made them take those tests again. This is an age-old assumption among what we now have as these MAGA individuals that black people cannot possibly have achieved this thing and that I am not getting this thing
Starting point is 01:51:02 because it's being taken from me, not because I don't have the wherewithal or the achievements to be able to do this. So when you have a lot of, articles like what you just had where they're citing how white men used to have this and white men used to have that and now they have x, Y, Z. It is because it is being given to disqualified or underqualified people. That is the assumption. And what does that do? That creates a level of anger among them that fortifies a base of MAGA that then says we will do your bidding for you so that we can make a white world. It is why we see such an increase in racial attacks, in race-based attacks, during both Trump administrations, the last one, and now this one, that people of color are being attacked more because of the kind of dog whistle that this administration is doing, and they're hinging it on a notion of white entitlement.
Starting point is 01:51:53 This is the line that I think is most important in the article to understand the mindset from the Congo, when he says, for white male millennials, DEI wasn't a gentle rebalancing. It was a profound shift in how power and personality. prestige were distributed in right there. And that's what it boils down to. What drives these folks crazy, what drives them crazy, what's driving the Supreme Court case
Starting point is 01:52:24 where they're going to make a decision that's going to gut black power, political power. All right, son. Time to put out this campfire. Dad, we learned about this in school. Oh, did you now? Okay. What's first? Smokey bear said to, First, drown it with a bucket of water, then stir it with a shovel. Wow, you sound just like him.
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Starting point is 01:53:13 The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense. I will continue getting stuff from Target, and I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers, whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Edel. Everyone Podcasts hosted by me, Brad Palumbo.
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Starting point is 01:54:23 audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Across the south is shit. They passed that damn voting rights act and they asked got some power. shit. They passed that damn 64 Civil Rights Act and now they ass got some damn power.
Starting point is 01:54:49 You mean to tell me, damn. See, I need to take everybody back through history. The Civil Rights Bill when Kennedy got elected was one big-ass bill. The Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and the Fair Housing Act,
Starting point is 01:55:08 that was all one bill. That was one bill. Kenny gets assassinated November 22nd, 663. LBJ tells M.O.K. I cannot pass this bill. I cannot pass this bill. I cannot. Brian Cranston, who plays LBJ in the HBO movie,
Starting point is 01:55:33 Anthony Mackey plays MOK. There's a scene where literally LBJ tears out two-thirds of the bill. So the reason it was three bills because it was broken up. The Civil Rights Act was 64. The Voting Rights Act was 65.
Starting point is 01:55:56 But this is the piece that people don't seem to understand. Wait a minute. How was Kennedy killed on November 22nd, 63, and then they passed the Civil Rights Act in 64? And the Voter Rights Act in 65, but what the hell took three years for the Fair Housing Act? It's because white Republicans were supportive of the 64 Civil Rights Act and the 65 Voting Rights Act said,
Starting point is 01:56:34 now hold up. Now, we oppose them Southern Dixecrats, and we gave the niggers. you'd say, all right, fine, y'all can stay in hotels and y'all can ride buses and y'all can do public accommodations was a 64 civil rights act. Now, we gave them niggas to write to vote, which actually was given with the three Reconstruction Amendments,
Starting point is 01:57:04 but they had to ratify the Voting Rights Act to make that thing real. All right, we then gave them niggers the right to vote. but wait a hold up y'all y'all want us support the niggers living next to us oh hell no we we're not no we're not doing that
Starting point is 01:57:24 see I see some of y'all out there who ain't read I want y'all to Google right now I want everybody to watch if you are listening to the sound of my voice are you watching right now I want you to actually Google and Anthony you can sit in half You can pull this up. I want you all to Google Ronald Reagan and governor of California and racial covenants.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Y'all going to see it right there. You see the AI overview. I'm going to see right there. As governor Ronald Reagan opposed California's Rumford Fair Housing Act, 1963 and he champion proposition 14, a ballot measure to repeal it arguing it violated property owner's rights to discriminate a stance aligning with opposition to racially restrictive covenants that historically barred non-whites from neighborhoods. Reagan campaigned on this, quote, freedom to discriminate, though his own properties had such clauses which he claimed
Starting point is 01:58:41 ignorance of. His stance rooted in property rights became a cornerstone of his conservative appeal but the Supreme Court struck down Prop 14 eventually leading to federal fair housing laws. Now y'all, I'm reading that for you because the white folks in California passed Prop 14 which said, I do not have to sell. I can put in the covenants you don't have to sail with somebody black. Well, people don't understand is that it was a black Republican.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Edward Brooke of Massachusetts who ain't like these damn Republicans. He was a liberal Republican. It was Ed Brooke who broke filibuster. People need to listen to what I'm talking about. Ed Brooke, I'm going to do this here again. Go back to my iPad. Ed Brooke breaks filibuster. housing, boom, housing champion.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Ed Brooke, this is the, so what happened? Ed Brooke fought for housing and what ended up happening was you had all of these, we pull up a separate story, all of these folk right here, how Brooks helped destroy public housing. That was public housing. So what ended up happening was, it was all about fair housing. housing. This was being the fair, the, uh, the housing law was being blocked. The housing law was being blocked in the United States Senate.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Ed Brooke brokered, uh, to break the filibuster to advance the 1960 Fair Housing Act. That happened in February of 1968. Now some of y'all, now y'all are going, okay, hold up. Then you're going, wait, well, I don't understand, no. But it wasn't a fair housing act? like signed later yeah we're signed later who was signed later you know why
Starting point is 02:00:57 but to mess y'all up the Republicans were blocking it in the house what happens king gets assassinated April 4th 1968 LBJ again
Starting point is 02:01:14 happened when you read LBJ and letter to house after MLK killed. LBJ sends a letter to the house. I'm going to say LBJ in housing letter. LBJ sends a letter to the house saying
Starting point is 02:01:45 we need to sign this law. that King gave his life for. That's what LBJ actually did. So y'all, they fought housing in this country. They fought housing in this country. So what Donald Trump is saying, and what MAGA wants to do, MAGA is desperately,
Starting point is 02:02:13 can we peel back housing? Can we peel back voting? Can we peel back for a civil rights act? y'all you peel those three back you literally peel back 60 years of american progress that that omacongo is their ultimate goal so they want to by peeling back as much as they can they want to in essence re-institute jim crow again not water hoses not water hoses not German Shepherds, not that aspect, but if they are able to completely, let's just say
Starting point is 02:03:06 this floor I'm standing on is the foundation. If I can take a jackhammer to the foundation of a house, then house can stay standing because the infrastructure has been broken apart. That is what they're agenda. age. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought up, you know, the various civil rights acts because so much of this
Starting point is 02:03:34 involved the courts. And it makes me think about the John Roberts courts because they are also working. Supreme Court is working in partnership with Trump to do just that. This is why the late, great representative, you know, John Lewis opposed the confirmation of Chief Roberts on the Supreme Court because he has always been somebody who's been about, who's against any type of voting type of rights or access. This is the Supreme Court that's destroyed affirmative action. This is the Supreme Court that has other types of rollbacks.
Starting point is 02:04:02 And so we could talk about what Trump is doing, but he's doing it in partnership with them. Like you said, there are no Republicans like Brooks right now. And then you look at the House of Representatives as well. And so if people could just see that one of the things that, you know, Donald Trump, he's crazy, he's irrational, but he's also very methodical in terms of the people who are around the Stephen Miller's little world, people who know how to plan, people who know how to target various aspects of, like, legislation with precision, the folks who are over at the Heritage Foundation, for example. And so you're absolutely right. They don't need to bring off the German Shepherd and the
Starting point is 02:04:33 fire hoses. I would say they're not, they don't need to bring them out yet. But they are planning to do this and they're implementing it everywhere I go, rolling. When I'm speaking now, schools, colleges, in different places, the audiences are wider again. The companies, they're wider once again. The numbers are rising. You talked about the entertainment industry and how that's looking as well. Did you see that picture of the White House interns that people saw someone said, oh, I see great diversity here. I see tall white people. I see short white people.
Starting point is 02:05:01 I see skinny white people. Like they're making it all for them in every way, shape, of form across every industry. And we don't even got to talk about what they're doing in the tech world as well. And so when people, again, it's only been a year. It's only been a year, Roland. This is happening at a very fast pace.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Project 20, 2025. What did they want to do all of this in like 180 days? You know, it might be a little bit behind, but they're not stopping. And so when people talk, in this segment, people got to see this segment. It's, I mean, goodness gracious, the way you tie in the civil rights movement,
Starting point is 02:05:32 the way you tie in Lyndon v. Johnson, the way you tie in Kennedy, the way you tie in what's going on right now with the roofles of the world, it's all being laid out. And the more you know, the more we can fight this because the goal is to destroy the foundation, and they are putting holes and dense and cracks in the foundation every single day
Starting point is 02:05:50 waiting for our house to crumble. And it's crumbling. So, folks, just so you understand, again, this is all fast. King gets assassinated on April 4th, 1968. They had been fighting this for three years. Y'all, the vote was 250 to 72.
Starting point is 02:06:03 It was signed into law on April 11th. That was just one week later. It was King's assassination that caused America to pass this bill. King doesn't get assassinated. That bill don't get signed and the fight continues. And so
Starting point is 02:06:19 I just want people to understand what's going on, what's at stake. And you have to understand, y'all, Again, we have got to stop walking around here. This is a great scene and scandal where Joe Morton character, Papa Polk, tells Carrie Washington's character. He said, you're running around in a field of daisies while bombs are going on. He said, you're running around and they feel with bombs going off. You're mistaken it as a field of daisies.
Starting point is 02:06:47 There are black folks who are running around. And again, I understand the fun we're having going to brunch and boots are. on the ground and dancing and then join ourselves. But bombs are literally going off all around us while some of us think that's fireworks. And do understand these folks, this is about power. This is about control.
Starting point is 02:07:16 This is about resources. This is about limiting opportunities. This is literally about how can, they completely restrict the future advancement of African Americans in this country where only a select few or allowed through. Folks, this is not a drill. This is for real. Going to break, we come back.
Starting point is 02:07:46 We're going to talk about ICE in Minneapolis right here, rolling on unfiltered on a black star network. This week on a balanced life with Dr. Jackie. we're talking about the ups and the downs of the holidays, the ebb and flow of life, those things that keep us running and gunning. But you know there comes a time in each of our lives where we need to just sit down, sit back, and relax, giving you a chance to really find out who you are and how you're going to move your life forward. How do I learn? How do I grow from this? And that's where, you know, resilience comes.
Starting point is 02:08:22 So I'm literally walking this out in real time. It's just giving myself all the grace, all the space, all the permission that I need. We're talking about all of these things this week on A Balance Life for Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. Of the Selma to Montgomery March in 1965, Dr. King stood in front of the Alabama State House and told 25,000 Americans that the greatest threat to the greedy oligarchy is when poor blacks and poor whites and others immobilized together and formed. a voting block that can fundamentally shift the economic architecture of our nation.
Starting point is 02:09:06 In America today, we have fewer voting rights protections than we did when the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965. And state legislatures have abused their power to try to pick their voters rather than let the voters pick their legislators. Meanwhile, every day people are suffering while the greedy get richer and richer. Dr. King was right and many others were right. The bill Billionaires who think they can buy our politicians are afraid of people coming together across dividing lines and building power together. In 2013 and 2014, we together in this state built out the Morrill Monday movement. And in 2014, more than 80,000 people showed up in Raleigh for a mass people's assembly. We mobilized our power.
Starting point is 02:09:53 We mobilized our vision. We did not continue to just resist what others were doing. We claimed the world that we wanted, the society that we wanted. And what we did energized was not partisan, it was principle. Here we are again now in 2026. And it's time to love forward together and mobilize. This is our Selma moment. And we need everybody, regardless of your race, your creed, your color, your religion, your sexuality,
Starting point is 02:10:22 whoever you are, if you love voting rights for all, if you love a, abolishing poverty and bringing into reality and living wage, if you love health care for all, if you love, love and grace and mercy, and do not want to buy into the religious nationalism of hate and meanness and a lack of empathy, if you want to love forward together, welcoming immigrants rather than suffering ice raids, if you love the environment and want to see it cared for rather than the polluters taking over, if you love fully supported public, education. If you want to love, not hate, and to have peace and not war, to stand against unchecked militarization and the militarization of our cities, then it is time to come together and mobilize
Starting point is 02:11:13 our power and our passion for justice. Then we now are in a moment where we must move from resistance to loving forward and mobilizing our power. So from February 11th to the 14th, Carolinians are going to be walking and marching and caravanning from Wilson to Raleigh. And on Saturday, February 14, Valentine's Day, we will hold a massive people's assembly for a moral agenda in Raleigh, North Carolina, saying it is time to love forward together. We are marching from a district that MAGA extremists because of a call from President Trump decided to gerrymandar the first congressional district, take it away from the people. And we are inviting all defenders of democracy and champions of the common good to meet us in Raleigh on February 14th,
Starting point is 02:12:13 to reclaim a moral agenda, an agenda for going forward, to pursue the society and the democracy that we want not only for ourselves, but for our children's children. For somebody's been hurting our people And it's gone on far too long And we won't be quiet anymore We will love forward together Babes, what are you doing? What? I'm just mowing the lawn.
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Starting point is 02:13:29 and I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulation. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast, hosted by me, Brad Palumbo. Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride through the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective.
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Starting point is 02:14:36 Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at Audible.com. Hey, I'm Malcolm Lee, and you're watching the Black Star Network. In addition to 1,000 Aisand Border Patrol officers are being sent to Minneapolis after the fatal shooting of Renee Gull, a 30-year-old mother of three by a federal agent last week. Department of Homeland Security, Assistant Secretary of Tristan McLaughlin says the ICE agents footage seconds before goods confirmed their claim that Jonathan Ross acted in self-defense. She says the deployment
Starting point is 02:15:23 is needed to protect personnel and enforce the law. Minneapolis leaders say more agents will only create chaos and intimidation. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye condemn the heavy-handed federal presence demanding the agents leave the city and calling for an independent investigation. Congresswoman Ilhan
Starting point is 02:15:39 Omar warned that federal tactics are stoking chaos with heavy immigration enforcement blocking lawmakers from visiting ICE facilities. Omar and fellow Minnesota Democratic Congress members were denied access to the ICE facility on Saturday. That comes on top of roughly 2,000 federal agents who are already deployed. Folks, a GoFundee campaign has raised nearly $400,000 for the coward who shot Renee Good in the face.
Starting point is 02:16:02 It was created January 9th. The fundraiser aims to aid the potential legal defense of Jonathan Ross. Folks like billionaire Bill Akman has given $10,000 to that as well. Also, the state of Minnesota as well as the state of Illinois are suing ICE. because of their actions in those two states. What say you on the Congo? Look, in Minneapolis right now, there are more ICE agents than there are police.
Starting point is 02:16:31 It is a militarized state. It is an occupation. And Trump is priming the rest of the country to show what could happen. And you see that these agents are completely unleashed and unhinged. You see the videos, you know, one said, you know, after what happened to Ms. Good, you saw what happened, right?
Starting point is 02:16:47 and then as he snaps the woman's phone we're hearing stories about you know them walking through Target walking in the restaurants seeing a group of like you know a black or white person and a Latino person grabbing the Latino person pulling people out of cars and they're doing it to everybody in terms of the violence and then arresting
Starting point is 02:17:04 people who are black or or Latino this as you're talking as you're talking I'm playing a video of them arresting folks who were just just filming them you see how they're actions are. Keep going. Absolutely. This is complete gangbusters. This is Gassapel tactics.
Starting point is 02:17:24 They raided someone's house today and took a family, according to journalist Michelle Norris, and you just come right off the heels of J.D. Van saying last week that we're going to be going to door to door, just like in Nazi Germany. This is where we are right now as a country. This is what was predicted. And if people don't continue to stand up, but look, I'm seeing these people out on the streets, man, but I'm not hearing anything from the sports world outside of Doc Rivers and Steve Kerr. I'm not hearing anything from the business community. Target, all these places, they're all there, not hearing anything from any of those folks
Starting point is 02:17:59 who are of the, what I mean, religious community has been speaking up. But at the end of the day, Roland, look at the, what was it, the Golden Globes that was last night or something? Like, nobody who got an award made a statement, the host did, Mark Ruffalo made some statements outside. This is happening right before our eyes. It's Nazi Germany in real time, and too many people are being silent right now. And that's the part that is the second most despicable thing outside of what's actually happening.
Starting point is 02:18:25 People have so much prominence. People got their names on the walls at Trump's ballroom and everything are watching all of this happen. And it's disgusting and it's disgraceful. But it's only going to get worse if more of us don't take more action. You mentioned Doc Rivers, the head coach of Milwaukee, Buck speaking on this issue. This is what he had to say. Y'all should have it there. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:18:55 told LeRond to shut up and dribble, and that kind of sparked a much larger conversation about who gets to have an opinion about the government, since basketball players are obviously also private citizens. Do you think that moment was a bellwether for what was to come in American politics? And I guess just, I would love to hear your thoughts in general on sort of the state of things right now, if you're comfortable. Well, first of all, I don't, I don't, I hope we are never using Laura Ingram as a bellwether anything. I'm just keeping that real. She's more of a political actor than anything. She would sign at CNN if they gave her enough money tomorrow and she'd be a Democrat.
Starting point is 02:19:33 So I'm going to just throw that part out. But there's been a lot of guys. I think Arthur Ash would be the first, you know, if you just go back in history and Muhammad Ali, you know, I think everyone should speak up. I don't think it has to be an athlete. I don't think it has to be a celebrity. I think everyday people, all of us, should speak up. We think something's morally wrong.
Starting point is 02:20:01 You know, what happened in Minnesota was a straight-up murder, in my opinion. And it's awful. You know, this lady was probably trying to go home, and she didn't make it home, and that's really sad. So the whole ICE thing is a travesty, you know. it's clearly, to me, it's where we're attacking brown people. And I just happen to be brown. And I don't think it should just be brown people who are upset at this. I think we all have to be. I don't care what side of this thing you are on politically. What's going on in our country right now is absolutely wrong as far as the race stuff. The politics,
Starting point is 02:20:52 I'm not going to get into the race stuff I will, and it's just wrong, and we have to do something. But the only thing we can do right now is keep speaking up because it doesn't seem like they care. And that's troublesome. Last thing I'm going to say, because I don't want to stay on this, but I could. I keep thinking about kids. And when I grew up, the president was always the role model. And I think about that. and the effect of being a bully, blind,
Starting point is 02:21:26 how is that good for our kids? And that worries me for our future. Timberwolves recognized her life and the tragic nature of her death. It's shameful, really, that in our country, we can have law enforcement officers who commit my own. and seemingly get away with it.
Starting point is 02:21:54 It's shameful that the government can come out and lie about what happened when there's video and witnesses who have all come out and disputed what the government is saying. So very demoralizing, devastating to lose anyone's life, especially in that matter. So it's terrible, terribly sad for her family and for her and for that city. And I'm glad the Timberwolves came out and expressed that sadness. Terry Am, now on the right wing are mad, most like Clay Travis are saying, oh, I hope this guy sues, Doc Rivers, and Steve Kerr are calling it murder. It's almost laughable.
Starting point is 02:22:40 First of all, I'm so glad that Doc Rivers did that. And, you know, he stands on the shoulders of giants. He's not the first athlete to come out and used his line-ey's position as a professional athlete or now in the coaching staff to use that as a platform to call for social. change. I mean, he stands on the shoulders of Wilma Rudolph and Lenny Wilkins and Bill Russell and Muhammad Ali, as he mentioned, all of these other folks who did the same. And it becomes in many ways of responsibility for them and they took it on as a responsibility. Am I saying that every athlete needs to be an activist? No, but am I saying that activists, athletes are athletes who promote
Starting point is 02:23:13 this kind of activism social change make a difference? 100%. They stand as examples for others. Now, in terms of them saying that he called it murder, it was murder. The Department of Homeland Security put out a longer video this morning, three and a half minutes, and they said, you know, this is the smoking gun, essentially. This is a video that will demonstrate that Renee Nicole Good was actually impeding their ability. I think that's the word that they used, impeding their ability to carry out their duties. The video shows nothing, but what they are relying on is their ability to say, don't believe your eyes and ears. believe us and what we are saying. You know, good luck to them being able to prove that in court that he said murder.
Starting point is 02:23:57 And I would bet that Dr. Rivers will absolutely not take back what he said because he called a spade a spade, and what we watched was a murder. And also, what we're going to watch is a mounting campaign in opposition to ICE. They are the modern-day slave catchers. And one thing I can say about slave-catchers, particularly after 1850 and the compromise of 1850, is that as they were snatching people visibly off the streets, just like ICE is doing, their people were born into slavery or free people, just like whether you're a citizen or not. They were physically taking them and placing them back into slavery.
Starting point is 02:24:29 It is the most modern parallel that we have. Yes, they are like the Gestapo, but they are these slave catchers. But you know what happened because of the visibility of their inhumanity and the visibility of their disdain for people? People across racial boundaries, black people and white people came together and they mounted increased abolitionist efforts to say. stop slave catchers. That is what we're seeing today.
Starting point is 02:24:54 That is why we saw protests in the streets of Seattle and Minneapolis and Phoenix and so many other cities immediately following this death. So they can ramp up ISIS presence in Minneapolis, but I think what they're going to do as a side effect of that is ramp up the opposition. We certainly will see that that is happening. The protests continue and lawsuits continue and they are digging in and so are those against them. We appreciate it, Terry Ann. I'm in Conga. Thanks for joining us on the panel today. Thanks a lot.
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Starting point is 02:27:11 My Houston, Texas, playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. So looking forward to that. So a couple of folks, Terrell, he's a little sad in our control room. because his woeful, woeful, his woeful, his woeful Washington commanders, did not even make it.
Starting point is 02:27:28 I don't even know what the record was. It was terrible. Anthony as well. And if, yeah, his team been on vacation for at least two weeks. Matter of fact, matter of fact, the Washington commanders fans, they've known they weren't making the playoff for at least a month, so they've been on vacation.
Starting point is 02:27:44 And Pola Henry and his little cowboys, we know they suck. So I think, did they finish like 7 and 9? or something like that, 7-9 and 1. So it's a lot of sad faces around here. But this one is it? All right, Texas, y'all handling your business. All right, I'll see y'all tomorrow.
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