#RolandMartinUnfiltered - TNBC Endorses VP Harris,Evangelicals for Harris,Avoiding Election Misinformation,FAMU's Resignations
Episode Date: August 15, 20248.14.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: TNBC Endorses VP Harris,Evangelicals for Harris,Avoiding Election Misinformation,FAMU's Resignations The International Brotherhood of Teamsters has not officially en...dorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for President but she did receive one from the National Black Caucus of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters instead. The National Chairman of the TNBC will explain why they voted to support the Harris-Walz ticket. "Evangelicals for Harris" is hosting a Zoom call tonight after dropping an ad showing Trump saying he doesn't ask God's forgiveness. In our Tech Talk segment, we'll talk to an expert about avoiding election misinformation on the internet. FAMU's interim president is asking the university's senior leadership to resign. And we remember the life of actor Erica Ash. We'll show you some of her homegoing service. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Martel. The Vice President Kamala Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz received a major endorsement in the race for the White House.
The Teamsters National Black Caucus Executive Board announced speech at the Republican National Convention last month,
sparking speculation over whether the union would endorse Donald Trump for president.
Now, he said they were going to be waiting until after the Democratic Convention to actually make that particular endorsement.
But the black caucus of the Teamsters said, looking at the accomplishments of Vice President Harris,
they also detail how Donald Trump has undermined workers' rights.
Joining us right now is the chair of the Black Caucus, James Kerbing.
He joins me now in this exclusive.
Glad to have you here, James.
So is this normal? Do you have you guys ever done this before where the caucus endorses before the actual leadership of the union?
I have to say, to my knowledge, the caucus has never endorsed a candidate.
The caucus is normally always just one out of work with the local unions. I have to say with the high priority
and the concerns that we have in this country,
this caucus has decided to endorse this year
for the first time.
Walk us through this.
What were these conversations like
for y'all to make this stunning decision?
Well, it's been an issue since last year. Ever since the Republicans
actually nominated, I say last year, ever since the talk of Donald Trump running again,
it has been a concern to our members, especially to myself and other leaders in the organization. And it wasn't taken lightly.
And I have to say that we're not beholden to no one organization.
And we are and will hold all politicians accountable.
And we have expressed that this endorsement to Harrison Wallace is not just a, I would say, nothing that has been taken lightly,
nor should it be taken for granted, because we do plan on holding our candidates accountable.
That's Harrison Walsh. We are 100 percent behind him, but we are holding them accountable,
and we have expressed this is not an endorsement to take for granted.
Look, a lot of labor organizations are backing the Democratic ticket.
And let's be honest, you've got a lot of teamsters out there, even though Biden Harris saved the
pensions of more than 600,000 teamsters, even though this has been called the most pro-union president
in a very, very long time, you've got a lot of white Teamsters out there who support Donald Trump.
And so it's interesting that you would have Trump, who's constantly attacking unions.
I mean, he did a call the other day with Elon Musk where he praised him for firing union workers. And so talk about
that racial schism that is real in terms of here you are, the Black Caucus of the Teamsters,
knowing full well you've got some white Teamsters brothers out there who support Republicans,
even though those Republicans... A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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Vote against unions.
Yes, indeed, brother.
We got some white brothers and sisters that actually do support Donald Trump,
but we do have a lot of white brothers and sisters that don't support him.
And sadly to say, we have some of our black brothers and sisters that support Donald Trump.
But as the Teamsters National Black Caucus, we look to educate and engage not only our
black Teamsters sisters and brothers, but our white sisters and brothers.
And every Teamster that we can reach, we're
going to get out in the streets and pound it and educate, engage, and encourage our
members to vote the right way.
And that's the Harris-Wallace campaign.
That's the only ticket that's for labor.
And as you say, the Biden administration, Biden-Harris administration, they bailed out
central states. They bailed out the
New England pension fund, the upstate New York pension fund, and I could keep going on and on.
And I'm dearly touched by the central states pension fund, because that's the fund that I was
in under Yellow Freight, which, as you know, Yellow Freight went belly up.
And one of the things that your executive board has looked at, again, is Donald Trump in his totality,
how he has treated folks, what he has said about labor, but also when you look at his business record,
not paying small business owners, cheating folks out of what he owed.
So y'all weren't just looking at, OK, what he's saying today.
You were looking at this man in his in his whole career.
And it's in everything that he's done. What did he do to the federal workers ripping their rights away?
Look what he done to the workers in the marijuana industry.
Look what he done into the NLRB and his appointments.
Donald Trump is no friend of labor.
He'll tell anybody anything that he thinks would get him a vote.
And we're not going to be fooled by him. We're not going to be fooled by him and his slick talk and, you know, pat on the back
and talk about what he's going to do now and that, as he say, black workers.
He got black jobs.
And it ain't about black jobs.
It's about all jobs in America.
And my question to him, what is a black job?
And I would like to just say also, yesterday our executive board voted unanimously to endorse
the Harris-Walsh campaign.
This morning, our membership voted unanimously also.
And what size of your membership?
It was, we had right at 560 delegates in here this morning that voted.
Have you heard from your team's vice president? Have you heard from
any of the leadership regarding this endorsement?
No, I talked to a couple of vice presidents, but no real communications.
You know, I say this first and foremost.
I respect our general president, Sean O'Brien,
General Secretary, Treasurer Fred Zuckelman, and that entire executive board. And I would say it's not about no one person or any of us overall in this union. It's about the entire labor movement. You know, it's about
our kids. It's about our future. You know, we cannot go back backwards. You know, I know what my ancestors went through
to get to where we are today. You know, we're fighting for the soul of America, and that's part
of our theme of this conference. You know, I've got to make sure I'm leaving something behind for
my daughters in this future. And I know if we don't elect the Harris team in this election, they're going to be set back for decades.
What are your plans in terms of ground game?
I mean, obviously, beating the streets.
You've got seven critical battleground states.
You've got a city like Milwaukee where you had a 50,000 voter drop-off in 2022 compared to 2020.
So how do y'all plan?
I mean, endorsement is one thing, but what about boots on the ground?
What are y'all plans there? We plan on working not only just in the Teamsters National Black
Caucus, talking to Teamster members, but we're looking to engage in our communities, our family,
also with other labor organizations and community groups throughout the battleground states and also
every city that we have a Teamsters National Black Caucus chapter in.
All right, James Kirby, and we certainly appreciate you joining us
for giving us this interview with regards to this,
your first interview discussing this endorsement.
We certainly appreciate you coming on Roller Mark and Unfiltered.
All right, thank you, sir. Thank you for having me.
Thank you very much. I want to go to my panel right now and bring them in here.
A. Scott Bolden, attorney based out of Washington, D.C.
Robert Petillo, host, People, Passion, Politics, News & Talk 1380, W.A.O.K. out of Atlanta.
Jolanda Jones, Texas State Representative and also a lawyer there in Houston.
Glad to have all three of you here.
Scott, I want to start with you.
This is highly unusual for the caucus to make this move before the actual Teamsters.
I love their independence.
Yeah, absolutely.
But you're going to see this dichotomy in all the major unions. You know, Donald Trump, because that working class, those model supporters,
he got a lot of support in these unions, even though it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
But you're going to see these splits.
But your best question to him was, OK, what comes with the endorsement?
Is it money?
Is it boots on the ground?
Is it go to V?
Are you partnering with other unions to do a ground game in the swing states or where
you're needed most?
Because in the end, the endorsement means something, but it doesn't mean as much as what's the
action that comes behind it.
Having been chair of the Democratic Party, having run for office myself, the endorsement
is the first part.
The second part and the most important part is what are you going to do?
And so they look like they're going to put boots on the ground, because if it's a close
race, I think she's going to pull away by three, five points.
But if it's a close race, get out. The vote is king and queen on Election Day.
You know what? What jumps out here for me, Jolanda, is and we, you know, we got to deal with the reality of race. And that is you have these white union workers, white men who are hardcore conservatives and Republicans who literally vote against their own interest in supporting Republicans who don't stand up for unions.
2016, Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton by 450,000 votes in Ohio because he kept talking about getting rid of NAFTA.
And that appealed to a lot of those union workers.
I remember 2008 where you had white union bosses who literally had to address the issue of racism head on,
telling their white members, you're going to vote for Barack Obama.
And so we can't deny the reality that exists when you look at a lot of these states where you have these white men who are conservative, who will support Donald Trump, even though the Republicans want to crush unions.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of
banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And
that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business
Week. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest
stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives.
But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
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I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer
will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was
convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for
Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3
on May 21st and episodes
4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Add free at Lava for Good Plus
on Apple Podcasts.
I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Glott.
And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Yes, sir.
We are back.
In a big way.
In a very big way.
Real people, real perspectives.
This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corps vet, MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.
Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real.
It really does.
It makes it real.
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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves.
We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers.
But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away,
you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else, but never forget yourself.
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Well, at the end of the day, they're white before they're union.
I mean, it's just that simple.
And I agree with you.
Why would you continue to vote against your interests?
But it's just really interesting.
My mother said you can't tell who people are in good times.
You can only tell who they are in bad times. And my mother also told me, don't be surprised when white people are white.
So this is exactly what this is. We can look back when Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton.
White women pipped a pussy-grabbing white man over someone who was them. They voted against their interest. So I'm excited to see that the
Black Caucus of the Teamsters were courageous enough to come out and support us, because if
we don't support us, who is going to support us? So I'm a union kid. My mother was a union steward,
and my grandfather was a union member. And I know for a fact that companies will crush people
who are not able to organize.
And we just heard Trump with Elon Musk congratulate Musk when he literally fired people who were
striking for better wages.
So I don't understand it, but I'm thankful that black folks are standing up.
And I'm particularly thankful that we have a black man who is the face of the black caucus because if Trump would have his way with his
lying self, he wouldn't be saying that black men don't support Kamala and they absolutely
do.
Robert, this is a headline from the Associated Press.
Biden releasing nearly $36 billion to aid pensions of union
workers. These are existing workers, retirees. I mean, my goodness, if you are a Teamsters,
and 600,000 of those folks are Teamsters, if you're one of those Teamsters folks,
I would think you want to go with somebody who saved your ass.
We often hear from our black conservative friends, you know, y'all
got to get off the Democratic plantation.
What are they doing for you? But we have
to start asking that same question of
poor white people in this country because
they've been voting conservative
since the Civil Rights Act of 1964
and what has it done for their communities?
You continue to vote for Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, all the way down the line,
but yet and still, if you go to rural white America, the community has been destroyed.
They're living in squalor. And the question has to be asked, just as they often ask of us,
well, what exactly are you getting for your vote? What are you demanding from these individuals?
They're selling you patriotism, and they're giving these corporations tax breaks. They're selling you red, white,
and blue. They're selling to Elon, we'll help you bust the unions. We'll help you
avoid any kind of regulations. And if you don't think that's true, just look at either Project
2025, Agenda 47, or the 20-point plan that Trump released earlier this week regarding what his agenda
is in office. It's all about destroying unions. It's all about getting rid of regulations. It's
about the Supreme Court overturning Chevron deference so you no longer have to follow
the requirements of federal agencies. It's about resetting the clock so that corporations and
multimillionaires and billionaires can get
even richer on the backs of poor Americans.
And when we talk about things like NAFTA, remember, Trump got rid of NAFTA and replaced
it with something even worse than NAFTA, the USMCA, the US-Mexico-Canada Free Trade Agreement,
which helped drain even more jobs from America and even more products across the border.
So when we're talking about people voting for their enlightened self-interest,
we have to have the same conversations with white America that we often talk about black America
having and saying, what exact Republican policies are supporting you and helping you get out of the
conditions that you are in? Do you really want fracking on your water to catch on fire? Do you
really want them to be able to bust unions, getting rid of collective bargaining, getting rid of the
40-hour workweek that many have proposed, or are you
going to do something about it and to vote for the things
that benefit yourself and your families,
not just on the culture war?
They love talking to black people about the plantation
and you got these white folks
voting hardcore Republican and they
still broke as hell.
Alright folks, hold tight. Once
to break, we come back.
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the momentum is shifting. Lots to talk about. You're watching Roland Martin.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small
ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.
The demand curve in action.
And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek.
I'm Max Chavkin.
And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith.
Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business,
taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams,
and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,
even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy
some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st,
and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Lott.
And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Yes sir, we are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care
for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding
of what this quote-unquote drug ban is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
MMA fighter Liz Caramouch.
What we're doing now isn't working,
and we need to change things.
Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real.
It really does.
It makes it real.
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to
Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
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So you've had a lot of folks, you have a lot of folks sitting here meeting, meeting with or having phone calls with regarding to Vice President Kamala Harris.
Numerous call black, black, black, black women, black men, white women, South Asian women.
I mean, Irish for Harris. Now you've got evangelicals for Harris.
They're going to have a major Zoom call beginning at 7 p.m. Eastern.
More than 60,000 of them are going to be on that particular call.
A lot of these folks who used to support Republican candidates. They also released a new ad featuring a clip of an interview where Donald Trump says he doesn't ask God for forgiveness.
Have you been to the cross and said, Lord, I have sinned?
I'm sorry for my sin. I'm willing to change my way of life.
Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?
That's a tough question.
I'm not sure I have. I just, I don't bring God into that picture.
I don't.
Hmm.
See, what I find to be interesting here,
they can even roll the video, Robert, of Donald Trump even talking about how, oh, yeah, I want to name my favorite Bible.
I just that's personal. That's personal. You know, but he talks about everything else.
I mean, so my line is, I mean, these white conservative evangelicals, they know he's a fraud, but he gave them what they wanted and they made a
deal with the devil and he was like, fine, you guys want to get rid of Roe v. Wade? I got it.
You want these federal society judges? I'm going to reward you with that. That's what's going on
here. And so this is not about morality. This is not about principles. This is not about ethics.
They don't care about any of that. This is raw power. Oh, it absolutely is.
Just think about the fact that Joe Biden has gone to church more than any president in American history.
He is a devout Catholic.
He is in church every single week.
And yet it's still white Christian evangelicals who support Donald Trump, who I remind them has five kids by three baby mamas,
who have been found liable for sexual assault, who have been convicted
of 34 felonies, who's facing 100 felony charges.
And if I did a commercial for the campaign addressing this issue, I would just play the
video from the Republican convention this year, where you open it up with Amber Rose,
a softcore porn star, as one of the keynote speakers during primetime.
You follow that up with Matt Gaetz, who's a pedophile, who had, well, actually, technically, he would be an hebephile, a pedophile like small children,
a hebephile like middle-aged children, and then a hebephile like somebody who's a
barely legal, let's say. That's Matt Gaetz, just to be technical things.
You have, who else was there? You have Dana White and Hulk Hogan, both of which who beat their wives.
You have Rudy Giuliani, who's been convicted of fraud and fallen out drunk in the aisle. And just ask Christians, is this the party that you
want to be part of, the party of Kid Rock, the party that no longer believes in family, no longer
believes in biblical values, but believes that somehow the most important issue facing America
is whether or not transgender people get to play sports or not. I mean, it's a ridiculous
party. This is why that weird attack has been so effective against Republicans, because they find
weird things to fixate on as Christians. Now, when it comes to feeding and housing the poor,
absolutely not. When it comes to doing something about bringing biblical principles back to our
budgeting and having a budget that really supports the downtrodden in this country? No, nothing at all. But when it comes to judging people in their lives,
that's when it kicks in. So I think if you just simply start appealing directly to,
and I think black clergy will have a big part in this, uniting around what it actually means to be
a Christian, helping people, not simply judging people. I think the Harris campaign can start picking off those votes.
And again, as she went to upper Midwest, she wins North Carolina and Georgia.
That's the election. And that's the coalition she has to build.
Jolanda, I mean, Jolanda, you said that in Houston, you've got crazy deranged Ed Young, Second Baptist Church,
who said all kind of wild, ridiculous, shameful things, attacking
Democrats.
He had Roy Moore in his church.
He's out there endorsing Donald Trump.
And these people, I mean, come on.
What the hell kind of Christianity is this?
It's the kind of Christianity where you don't want to tell people you anti-black, so you're
going to say you like pro-God or something.
It doesn't make any kind of sense, but that's what they do.
And they've shoved the Bible aside, and specifically with Donald Trump,
he don't even know the Bible, which is why he can't give no Bible verses.
But it's hypocrisy at its best, and it's hard for people who are logical people, who are thinking people,
who are Christian people, to understand how the Republicans can do mental gymnastics to somehow
try to say that Donald Trump is the epitome of a Christian. And that's what's stated earlier.
You know, he's a baby daddy. He ain't faithful to his wife.
Like, literally every commandment, he's broken, and he doesn't.
I mean, when we think back to Jesus, Jesus walked amongst those who needed the most prayer.
That is not what Donald Trump does.
Donald Trump is with the most high of high.
In fact, billionaires high, which none of us can even imagine that a billionaire has
like $1,000 million.
So everything about him is counter-Christian.
And I don't, again, try to even understand people who are not meant to be understood
and who are illogical and irrational.
And the bottom line is they cannot stand that a black woman is doing what she's
doing. And so all they're going to do is cry Christianity, Christianity, Christianity. It's a
lie. And we will not be fooled. We just won't. And what you have here, you have these these
evangelicals. A number of them are are conservative. We had Pastor Dwight McKissick on last night from Arlington, Texas, Scott.
And they're tired of Donald Trump attacking people, berating people, the language that he uses.
And so that's why I think you're seeing these evangelicals.
And let's be real clear.
White conservatives do not own the word evangelical.
But a number of these people are former voters of Trump and Republicans who say they're just tired of dealing with this man and how he talks.
And a lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in
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And while we were forcing it down their throats and what have you, Biden decided to step back. One of the most politically selfless acts and facing reality, of course, and brought us and enabled Kamala Harris to lead the ticket, if you will.
And what you're seeing is most of America is in the middle.
Most of America is not MAGA. Trump can't get above 46, 47 percent. Most of America is not
progressive left. It's in the middle. And so when you see black, white, yellow and brown for Harris,
when you see white evangelicals or evangelicals for Harris, and you see Asian men for Harris, when you see white evangelicals or evangelicals for Harris, and you see Asian
men for Harris, all these groups, because they've been starving for leadership.
They don't like Donald Trump.
They didn't like Biden because of his age, but because they didn't believe he could fill
out the term.
And she cures all those defects, not just for the Democratic Party, but all of America.
And so you see this groundswell of support because they've rejected Trump in the majority every time he's run
and rejected the Republican GOP over the last, what, 2020, 2022?
And they're going to reject him again in 2024, I think.
And so that's what you're seeing, really.
They're hypocrites. They've
been completely politicized, so they have no credibility whatsoever. But what you're seeing
is America responding to a new choice, a younger choice, a fresher choice. And really, nobody's
talking about it being history-making, but it really is. Every time he attacks her, every time
they attack whether she's got her
own kids or not, they're attacking every woman in America. That's why you're seeing this groundswell
of support. Whether they agree with her policies or not, they trust her. They have faith in her,
and they really do want a new day in America and hope and all these other things, because all you're
getting from the Republicans is negative and dystopian views. That's all you're getting.
America still has the greatest economy in the world.
It still treats immigration with humanity.
And most of Americans agree with that, that a woman should have their own choice. The groundswell of support for Kamala Harris is the manufacturing of all of those interests
for creating the coalition of decency. And, Roland, just real quick, I want people to remember that after Donald Trump survived
his assassination attempt, after the bullet whiz passed his head, many people thought
that that was God saving his life and giving him an opportunity to turn over a new leaf.
And we heard all the commentators say, well, at the convention next week, he's going to
come out and he's going to unite America.
We're not going to see the same anger, not the same hatred, not the same fear.
We're going to see a reborn Donald Trump.
And at that time, he was at the apex of his political power.
God had taken Biden out of the race war and given him a free runway to the White House.
But God don't like ugly.
And when Donald Trump came back out and basically thumbed his nose at the God
Almighty by saying that I do not need your salvation, I'm the one who survived that bullet,
I turned my head and that's the reason I'm alive. I didn't need you the whole time.
God took it all away from him. And that's what you people need to understand. I don't care who
you are. Hubris is what has brought down every empire in world history. And what brought down
the Trump campaign was him thinking that he could work in absolution
and flout God and somehow still have his favor.
And what we see in the drop of a hat overnight, three weeks, he went from being a shoe in
a 90 percent chance of winning in some betting odds now to being almost certain to lose this
election.
I think that's a lesson people can take from this.
Well, you got it, folks.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news
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I texted Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who is one of these crazy, deranged, right-wing Christian zealots, Jolanda.
He put this tweet out and he said, you know, I call my friend Matt Crouch,
president and chairman of TBN, Trinity Broadcasting Network. After Trump was shot,
I asked if he would consider a show to talk about whether God spared the life of the president,
as I believe, or was just a random act of incredible luck. And so he said he taped an
hour with Matt, Dr. Field, a pastor and a news anchor about what the Bible says about God choosing our leaders and being involved in elections, yada, yada, yada.
I guess I guess all I guess all the black preachers, Jolanda, were busy.
This is the this is the picture right here. Pretty, pretty pale. But again, people like Dan Patrick, people like
Greg Abbott, people like these
you see these folks in Mississippi and Alabama.
I mean, they literally
worship this man as
if he is the second
God. As if he were God.
Which you
shouldn't worship idols if you pay
attention to the Bible. You should know that.
But if you look at everything and every group that supports Donald Trump,
ain't all of them are black people.
And if they are black people, they look like Step and Fetch It.
They look like Steven from Django Unchained.
That's what they look like.
And then you sit up there.
What I don't understand, Dr. Phil, dude, who made you a black woman?
I mean, I'm going to say this one more again, who made you a black woman? I mean, I'm going to say this one more
again. Who made you a black woman? If you look at anything that Donald Trump does, this is white
anti-black people grasping for the last straw to stay in power because they know they're losing their power. And I think God actually brought Kamala Harris to come.
She needed to be black, because the way to put a stake in Donald Trump's heart is to
lose to a smart-ass black woman.
That's what is evangelical.
That is what is Christian.
And that is what is going to be the silver bullet
that kills Donald Trump and the last bastion of white supremacy.
Folks, let's talk about this here. CBS News sent out invites to both campaigns as related to
a vice presidential debate. They said today CBS News invited both vice presidential candidates
to participate in a debate in New York City. We provided the campaigns with four dates as options, September 17th, September 24th, October 1st, October 8th.
We look forward to their responses and providing voters with an opportunity to hear directly from the vice presidential candidates.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has accepted October 1st.
Waiting to hear. I'm not quite sure if J.D. Vance has accepted
the invite there. And again, what you're seeing here, Scott, you're seeing a Harris-Walls campaign
being very aggressive, saying, yo, bring it. Yeah, and being very disciplined on message.
She's drawing out before she talks about her economic policy. She's building this campaign
in the air. The ship is in the air. And they're doing it on their time because they got $300
million, and they got a broad coalition of support. And so they can afford to do that.
But watch these debates. You know, she's ahead of him in swing states and maybe in national polling.
But we haven't gotten to the DNC bump.
We haven't gotten to these debates.
These debates are going to be critical.
Because what I've been saying publicly and privately is that Kamala Harris is going to prosecute the case against Donald Trump.
He's going to bully her. He's going to speak in superlatives.
He's going to start lying. Every's going to speak in superlatives. He's going to start lying.
Every time he opens his mouth, he lies.
And she's got to counter with one of your favorite tactics.
She's got to counter with facts.
She's got to pull it up in her hand, pull that file, and fire away at him.
And Walsh is going to do the same thing to the hillbilly who's the vice president. And when that happens, and that stark contrast between this goal of a joyous future versus
a dystopian past and present that doesn't match the economic numbers, then Americans
will have a real choice.
And I think you see the Democratic team pull away even further as they've been surging.
We'll have to see.
But it would be really interesting to watch these debates if they perform well and if they're disciplined.
And Robert, listen, what?
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.
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Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
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NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
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Governor Walz and what Vice President Harris cannot do
is think or hope the so-called moderators
are going to fact check.
No, they have to say it real time, that's a lie.
You're still lying, and you're still lying,
and you're still lying.
When he talks about I left a great economy, that's a lie.
When he talks about all of the domestic oil production, that's a lie. I mean,
you have to call it what it is, not a misstatement of fact. No, you got to be very direct because
what that's going to do is further incense Trump and J.D. Vance in a debate. Robert, go ahead.
Hey, look, one of my callers this weekend said we have to call him out of being Pinocchio,
almost to the Bootsy Collins Pinocchio theory, because everything that he says, we have to call out.
Like you said, we know that the moderators are in it and the networks are in it for ratings.
And they understand that the more Trump rants, the more crazy things he says, that the more views, that the more clicks, that the more likes.
They have no incentive to fact-check him in real time. I think Kamala Harris and Tim Walz both have to sit there and break them down every single time they attempt to do so.
And you have to have a point of facts, because you know Trump's not going to be coming with a bunch of numbers he remembered.
He's not going to be coming with a bunch of legislation he remembered.
He's just going to be going stream of thought and stream of consciousness. I am really looking forward to this debate between J.V. Vance and Big Ball's Tim Walls, because Tim Walls is going to make it very
clear that he is who J.D. Vance pretends to be in his books, that unlike J.D. Vance,
who is the same age as me, but somehow less qualified to be vice president than I am,
that the only thing that qualifies him right now is he wrote a book about hillbillies.
But yet they want to question Kamala Harris's achievements and whether or not she's qualified and call her a DEI candidate.
I think Tim Walz is going to have to nail J.D. Vance on this whole origin story of, well, my mom was an opioid addict because of the Mexican cartels.
No, your mom was an opioid addict because of the pharmaceutical industries making it too easy to get a hold of prescription medications.
But you don't want to regulate them.
And also, also, also, Robert, he created a nonprofit to supposedly deal with the opioids.
And he spent all the money and didn't spend on anything dealing with opioids.
You have to bust him on every single one of these contradictions, even the whole stolen valor idea.
You were a damn reporter in the Marines for four years and you're going to question someone's 24 years of service during 9-11.
I want righteous indignation. And I think Timmy Big Balls is going to bring it to us.
Jelana, go ahead. This is what I got to say about the vice president.
First of all, she's a trial lawyer.
I'm a trial lawyer.
You have to be quick on your feet.
She's also black.
So we know how to do the dozens.
I think a debate stage is exactly what they both need in order to show who's got the quickest thought and the facts.
And Trump is a bully.
The best way to get a bully is to be in his face
and push right back at him with facts.
And that is exactly what she's going to do.
But the beautiful thing about the vice president is,
you know, if you've been black,
and I've been black all my life,
somebody say some stupid shit,
and you're looking at them like everybody knows
they said something stupid.
And that's exactly how she's going to
handle him. And he's going to get angrier
and angrier and angrier.
And he's not even going to be able
to help himself. And you know what?
I'm a former athlete. What you
do is you get in people's heads when
you're competing against them. That's what you do.
And sometimes you hard foul
so that the next time they go up for a layup,
they hesitate.
And all you need is for them to do that.
That is what I predict Vice President Harris is going to do to Trump.
Well, here's the whole deal.
That debate, September 10th, if that actually happens,
we've got to get through the Democratic Convention next week.
So we'll deal with that.
I'll be there.
Folks, don't forget,
beginning on Monday night, we're going to have live coverage
every single night, 6 p.m. to midnight
from Chicago for the
Democratic National Convention, giving
you the best coverage, and it's going to be the
blackest coverage. Y'all know, you're going to
see more black people, us talk to in one
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And so, again, you can download
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So it's going to be a lot more seasoning in our coverage.
All right, folks, got to go to a break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about
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what happened in her race in Minneapolis,
and also Senator Amy Klobuchar,
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A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek.
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I'm like, you.
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Even though I know I earned that money, I gave him that money
back.
I gave him that $600,000 back.
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I was a bad guy.
I'm not about the money.
Wasn't about the money.
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Apex essentially took out two Democratic members of the squad, Congressman Jamal Bowman, as
well as Congresswoman Cori Bush, but they could not defeat Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
Last night she won her primary race defeating Don Samuels.
He was boosted by fundraising from a number of pro-Israel donors.
She of course was elected in 2018 and she's almost of course guaranteed to win re-election
in November. Now, early
in the night, she was up around 2,000 or so
votes, but then as the numbers
come in, she came in,
she beat him by 13 points.
That's a huge deal because when they ran
two years ago, she only beat him by
a couple of points. Omar
told supporters she was incredibly honored
by last night's win.
I have to say, you know, we run the politics of joy.
That's right.
Because we know it is joyful to fight for your neighbors.
We know it is joyful to make sure everybody has access to healthcare.
We know it is joyful to make sure housing is a human right.
We know it is joyful to fight for healthcare to be a human right.
We know it is joyful to want to live in a peaceful and equitable world.
This obviously is a huge win, Jolanda, because AIPAC and pro-Israel donors are really going after members of the squad, consider them to be the most far-left Democrats.
They've been one to defeat Congresswoman Ilhan Omar since she was elected.
And so here she is beating them again and pretty much guaranteeing her third term in Congress.
Well, absolutely. But I think one of the things that she did that was,
I guess, brilliant, if you even listen to what she just said,
I think most people don't like to hang around people that are consistently negative all the time.
They basically suck the happiness out of the room.
People get tired of people who only complain, complain, complain, who are the victim, the victim, the victim.
Vice President Harris has been great at doing that.
Representative Omar has been great at doing that. And when you contrast that to two white men, the most privileged group of people in these United States of America, constantly whining, one of which who proclaims to be one of the richest people ever and the best businessman ever.
Man, what you got to complain about?
Nothing.
Right?
So don't tell me I'm working, I'm a union person, or I'm a person who's not from here,
and I know that there's discrimination against me, or I'm a woman, I can't get an abortion,
I'm a person who doesn't have healthcare, you've got helicopters and planes and all
these things.
Man, what do you have to complain about?
And I think that society as a whole, the United States, we are just sick and tired of listening
to privileged people with white privilege, specifically men who have literally oppressed
us, complaining.
And so, and I think that's what we, and I think that's what we need to do.
In fact, it doesn't make any sense to me.
It's absolutely weird that Trump is complaining that as Vice President Harris has closed the gap,
has taken the lead over Trump, and is whooping his ever-loving, pale, you-know-what,
that he's complaining and she's not.
Because normally when he attacks people, people don't know what to do.
They stand there, and she's going at him.
You want to know why?
Because she's black, she went to an HBCU, she's a member of a sorority and she is not backing down. And none of his failing ass tactics are working.
Scott, I think when you look at these races, you've got to look at them in different ways.
In the case of Congressman Jamal Bowman, his district changed.
OK, in terms of how he won two years ago. It was a different makeup, so it was not as,
didn't have as many black voters than others, and so that was the issue. He also voted against the
infrastructure bill and got hit with that big time in the campaign. Congresswoman Cori Bush,
same thing, voted against the infrastructure bill, was running against somebody that
progressives had supported.
He got lots of money from APEC and other donors.
Also, there were people who were critical,
saying she wasn't taking care of the district.
The reality is, when you're running for congressional seats,
I mean, reality is, you got to take care of home.
I'll tell you, three weeks ago, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson
Lee died.
And people forget, how does she get elected.
She ran against Congressman Craig Washington,
who succeeded Congressman Mickey Leland when he died.
Well, one of the things that Congressman Craig Washington did was
he voted against a bill that had funding for NASA.
NASA's headquartered in Houston.
That was dumb.
And what happened was they recruited Congresswoman Jackson Lee. That's how she won. I mean, so part of the deal also, when you're running for Congress, you better focus on taking care of your district or it will bite you in the butt when you run for re-election. Or in the case
of Omar, that's actually
what saved her because her folks said
she's been here. Yes, she voted against
this bill, but she's been working
for the district.
Yeah, you know, congresspersons
never stop running.
They never stop raising money.
It's a hell of a way to make a living.
And you've got to take care of home, of course.
You've got to always raise money.
But the other difference, the value
differential on Omar
is that
she didn't have any ethical issues either.
I mean, Cori Bush is under federal
investigation for using
federal campaign
funds for security purposes, I think.
You know, Bowman, his
district changed, and he was still acting like
he was representing a majority black district,
and he had a misdemeanor conviction
for pulling a fire alarm that really
didn't make any sense to anybody, quite frankly.
And then lastly, let's be real,
AIPAC made a decision not
to go after Gilmar.
They did that because they spent so much money on those other two races, right?
They also looked at our race and didn't believe that they could effectively or efficiently run somebody against them for the very reasons you gave.
So every race is different.
And I think that was the value differential on our winning our election.
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after Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Robert, but it's going to be a hard task for them. And let's also be clear, it was, you know, the Bush race was a very tight race.
And so, you know, AIPAC, you know, stood their position.
But, you know, understand that people can't be afraid of them when it comes to when they oppose somebody.
Yeah, they're throwing money at it.
But when you take care of the people, people's votes will always outweigh money, Robert.
And look, I think at some point in time,
we're going to have to start reviving this conversation
about campaign finance reform in America.
We haven't talked about it really since the,
for over a decade.
But imagine any other country
having their own political action committee
the same way that AIPAC is basically
an arm of the Israeli government
and basically saying that we will be spending hundreds of millions of
dollars to get rid of anyone who votes against our interests.
Imagine if the Russian government was taking out congresspeople who supported the Ukraine
war.
Imagine if the Iranian government was able to take people out of office who supported
aid to Israel.
It will be a free-for-all in American politics, but because it's Israel, for some reason, we allow them to have an outsized impact on the
American government. And when I say outsized impact, I'm going to get a little technical.
The new stealth fighter we have, the F-35, there are four variants. There's an Air Force variant,
there's a Navy variant, there's a Marine variant, and there's an Israeli variant.
The fact that Israel
is all but a fourth branch of the American military tells you that they have too much of
an impact on the American government. And now that we're at a point where Benjamin Netanyahu can pick
our congresspeople, he can pick our senators, and essentially he can pick our president,
depending on the political season, I think we also be very concerned about whether or not we are living in the democracy we've been told we live in,
or if we live in an oligarchy, which is sold out to the highest bidder,
and somebody's going to have to do something about it at some point
if we want to continue this illusion of having a republic that ever represents us.
Robert, no. No, no, no.
We are who we are.
The finance laws are what the finance law, campaign finance laws are, right?
You want to get rid of AIPAC?
You want to outperform them, outwork them?
Then get organized, organize a black pack, raise millions of dollars.
Black, brown, white people got enough money to get behind those causes, right?
And you out-campaign them, outwork them, outspend them.
And that's how you win. And you cover your flank and you take care of your district, right? And you out-campaign them, outwork them, outspend them, and that's how you win. And you cover your flank and you take care of your district, okay? You don't
need campaign finance reform. It is what it is. And the Supreme Court has ruled on that
already. So you've got to live with the rule. Just beat them at the rule, period.
But Scott, the difference is, AIPAC is all but state-sponsored. If any other country
had state-sponsored political action committees that were controlling
American elections, we would probably
bomb them.
But what we've got to do
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.
Wait a minute. Wait.
Can't anybody hear what you're saying?
Robert is finished. Scott,
Scott, stop talking. Here we go. Robert is finished. Scott, Scott, stop talking.
Here we go.
Robert is finished.
Don't let me talk.
No, I'm going to let you talk if you shut up,
and let me give you the brown rules.
Robert is finished.
Scott, make your point.
Then we'll go to Jolanda.
Go.
I made my point.
Good.
Okay, you made your point.
Okay, good.
Stop talking.
Jolanda.
I just wanted to do a small thing.
Here's the deal.
The rules are what they are.
First thing we need to do if we want to have a chance to change campaign finance rules
is get a new president.
It cannot be Donald Trump.
The Supreme Court is what it is.
So that ain't about to change, right?
So I actually respectfully disagree that we have to have more money, because let me tell
you about poor people. If we organize, we can beat money. But we've got to be inspired and we've got to be willing to work.
Sort of like when we went back to the Montgomery bus boycott, where people were willing to figure
out a way to get to work and walk for over a year. That's what we need. And we need to educate
people and we need to give people hope. But AIPAC does have an
incredibly large, I guess, footprint on what's going on. But if you take care of home, that
won't be a problem. We saw that with Congresswoman Jackson Lee. She always took care of home. When
she was running for reelection for this term, you know what? She didn't have nearly as much money as
her opponent. Did not. But you know what? The one't have nearly as much money as her opponent.
Did not.
But you know what?
The one thing you can say about Congresswoman Jackson Lee, and I hear it's the same with Representative Omar,
is that she took care of her district.
And that can overcome money all day, every day.
Because I can tell you, I've heard constituents say,
you can say what they're doing in D.C., they you can say what they're doing in D.C.
They don't care what they're doing in D.C.
People want to know what you're doing for me right here.
I need help.
I need help right here, right now.
When I call my congressperson's office, are they going to help me or are they not?
And if they help you, it doesn't matter how much money they put against you because ain't nobody going to believe them lies.
They just not.
All right. money they put against you because ain't nobody going to believe them lies. They just not.
All right.
Let's talk about also stay in Minnesota.
What Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar will be running against a former NBA player in nutcase Republican Royce White in November.
White became the GOP nominee after defeating Joe Frazier, a Navy veteran, in Tuesday's
primary.
In 2012, White was the first round pick-round draft pick of the Houston Rockets,
but because he suffered from an anxiety disorder and a fear of flying,
he didn't end up playing for the team,
as he said he was unable to travel to games across the country.
Now, in 2022, White ran for a House seat in Minnesota,
attempted to defeat Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
He lost.
He also has said some really strange things
that women talk too much.
And he also had to amend his campaign finance reports
when it showed expenditures at a strip club.
And he tried to say, well, the food is good there.
Yeah, that didn't quite work.
And so, yeah, the food is good there. Yeah, that didn't quite work.
And so, yeah, you know, but again, I mean, you're dealing with somebody who, let's just say he's way out there, Jolanda.
Well, of course. But when Republicans pick black folks, look at the kind of black folks
they pick. I mean, dude played basketball. He doesn't like women. There's
a common theme going on here. He's crazy as hell. There's a common theme going on around here.
I suspect they tried to get somebody black on a ticket to try to take black folks away
from the top of our ticket. They do stuff that doesn't make sense. They always get
athletes like him or Hershel Walker.
They're just a certain kind of way.
Again, Clarence Thomas Negroes, Stephen from Django Unchained Negroes,
unqualified Negroes, because they think we are basic people. I think that Klobuchar is going to whoop him, and he deserves to be whooped,
and all of our skinfolk ain't our kin folk. And I'm sure, Robert, this clip of Royce White was...
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I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion- dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission?
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated,
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st
and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Lott.
And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
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This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
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Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding of what this
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drug thing is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real
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MMA fighter
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It makes it real.
It really does.
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Listen to this.
Yeah.
Well, look, let's just be frank.
Women have become too mouthy.
As the black man in the room, I'll say that.
So Robert, he said women have become too mouthy.
You know, it's something interesting with the Republican Party, this cycle that He said women have become too mouthy. You're probably talking about me.
It's something interesting with the Republican Party, this cycle, that why do they all go on so many damn podcasts,
knowing they're going to be running for office in the future?
There was one earlier of J.D. Vance saying that women postmenopausals have quit all their jobs to raise the next generation of children.
They said that if women don't have kids, that they're more likely to be psychopaths, and that they're childless cat ladies.
It's a very strange strain of misogyny and misogynoir that seems to permeate the conservative
movement, this idea that, well, these women are moving up too fast, they're taking too
many jobs, they're getting too powerful, they ain't listening no more, they mouthy as all
hell, they prosecuting me, et cetera. They're taking too many jobs. They're getting too powerful. They ain't listening no more. They mouthy as all hell.
They prosecuted me, et cetera.
Let's put them, it's almost like they're running Republicans 2024, put them back in their place,
barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen or something along those lines.
And the fact that you still have a majority of white women supporting that party and supporting
that agenda goes back to that Stockholm syndrome we were talking about earlier, where people
are voting against their enlightened self-interest.
I found this one also to be
quite interesting. Scott, listen to this.
There's not a thing that could happen.
Donald Trump
could get up on stage,
pull his pants down, take a
shit up at the podium, and
I still would never vote for you fucking Democrats
again.
He hates
himself. Let that sink in.
Well,
let that sink in.
First of all, let that sink in.
Yeah, okay. All right. Go ahead, Scott.
You know,
I mean, the guy did an interview
with a baseball cap
on, a dirty one, that had wine on it. I mean, he guy did an interview with a baseball cap on, a dirty one that had wine on it.
I mean, he's amateurish.
Whether it was him or his team, they went to a strip club and they actually used a credit card?
And then they reported it to the FEC.
I mean, it's a no moment.
I doubt he's going to win anything,
but it's just ignorance, basically.
Yeah, a whole lot of that.
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Folks, on Monday, Florida A&M University's interim president, Dr. Timothy Beard,
sent a form letter to senior staff asking all of them to resign in a business on Tuesday, August 13th.
In the letter, which was dated on August 12th,
he asked the team of 19 people to resign effective Tuesday.
Additionally, Dr. Beard wrote in the letter,
the decision was not made lightly
and is rooted in the commitment
to ensure the university's position
for future growth and success.
Beard said the resignations are part of his strategic plan.
And of course, Board of Trustees, it involves evaluation and assessment of management.
So part of my overall assessment process is to include the submission of resignation letters from that team.
It's an opportunity for me to really look in terms of the synergy of the team
and what's going to be in the best interest of family going forward. It's not an unusual practice
in corporate America, nor in higher education for that to happen.
Beard has accepted four letters of resignation. Those include the AD
Athletic Director Tiffany Dawn Sykes, Communications Director Keith Miles,
Vice President of Legal Affairs General Counsel Denise Wallace,
and Director of Government Relations Daniel McBeth.
Now, all of this, of course, stems from the debacle at Florida A&M
over this $200-plus million donation that was a farce
from a so-called hemp farmer in Texas.
Florida A&M was absolutely embarrassed by this.
Not only did he make the donation, they allowed him to be the commencement speaker.
What ended up happening here was that the head of their development team,
who was also the head of the business school, stepped down, but that wasn't enough.
And so eventually, Florida A&M president Larry Robinson resigned,
which led to Beard being appointed.
And then, of course, him making these decisions.
Now, he's the interim leader here.
This was an absolute mess.
Just unbelievably ridiculous, Robert.
And a lot of people are complaining.
They're saying, oh, my God.
I mean, you're getting rid of all these people.
School starts in two weeks.
This is Ron DeSantis trying to take over our school.
Here's the deal.
Larry Robinson and his team totally screwed up.
They embarrassed the university over this donation debacle where anybody with a brain could have seen there were massive red flags.
They ignored all of those.
And so this is leadership saying, if all y'all folks were involved in this and you knew,
you got to go.
Yeah, it's called cleaning house.
That's what happens.
That if something is terminal, if something is so big and so much of a screw up that it endangers the actual survival of the institution, as this one did, and provides this level of just irrepute upon the name of the school, you
have to take drastic measures.
This is a drastic measure.
But at the end of the day, it needs to take place to restore confidence, not just in the
students, but in the alumni and the donors in the community, that they need to know that
the leadership has changed and something like that can never happen again.
I think this is a real lesson, not just for other HBCUs, but for black folks in business, too.
If somebody comes just showing up talking about a whole lot of money, you better have a whole lot of questions involved also.
There is no such thing as magic in this world.
If something happens, there are going to be strings attached.
You need to work out all those before you make any sort of announcement or any sort of plans.
Don't get excited because you see a lot of zeros on the check.
You have to make sure you're doing your due diligence.
And unfortunately, heads had to roll, and that's what we're seeing taking place.
Well, Jelani, you have this dude, Gregory Jarami, showing up with a $237 million gift stock transfer.
I mean, literally, you listen to this story, in minutes, you can say, this don't sound right.
And they went forward and admitted that there were red flags and they proceeded anyway to allow him to speak at commencement.
I mean, at the end of the day, if you're complaining by saying, well, Ron is saying this is what he's doing.
No, you've got to blame the folks who allowed your university to be embarrassed internationally.
And if the buck doesn't stop with the board,
who does the buck stop with?
Well, first of all,
the board
can replace the president, but the board
in this case, and I talked to
board members, the board
could not change senior leadership.
So only the president could.
And here's the deal.
Robinson wouldn't do it.
Only one person stepped down.
And so if Robinson had told some folks they got to go,
it should have happened, but he didn't.
They bounced him.
Interim comes in.
He's like, all right, y'all got to get out.
Right.
But again, if it doesn't stop at the top of leadership,
where is it going to stop?
And with the attacks on HBCUs, with the underfunding of HBCUs, we really have to make sure that we are doing the best.
Right. We've got to be four times better. I remember when I was growing up, my mother told me that I have to be more qualified and we have to do that. And they didn't do, as you said, Roland, they didn't do due diligence. They had this guy be the commencement speaker. They didn't
check up on anything. It was smoke and mirrors. And FAMU is a historic school. People know of
FAMU in Florida and they needed to do something. And you know what? If you do things the same way all
the time, then you're going to get the same result. So I think that they needed to clean house.
Like most presidents, when they come in, they actually clean and they bring in their own
people. They want people who are loyal to them, who are not going to try to do anything.
So this is no different. It's just that that debacle that they had. I mean, you can't forget about
it. So I think he did what he needs to do. And I think we need to get behind them and
hopefully they'll get people in who don't want to be embarrassed to say, no, no, no.
I don't think they want, they don't want to be embarrassed.
Scott, Scott, she's not finished. Scott, hold on. All right. Now she's done. Now, Scott,
go with your no, no, no.
Go.
As the only, I don't know,
has anybody else sit on a college university board on the panel?
I've been on more houses of board of trustees for several years.
I've hired presidents and fired presidents,
and this debacle that you all are talking about is purely senior management,
president, CEO, and his team. Okay. So the
president had to go, right? And that's what the board does. The setup for this 237 million gift
and the commencement speaker and all the graduation, that's all senior management and
staff. The board historically doesn't have a whole lot to do with that. We provide oversight and policy.
We don't hire and fire anybody except the president, and the president hires and fires his senior management and so forth and so on.
Secondly, when you get an interim president or a new president, you don't terminate all 19 people in one lump sum.
It may make you feel good,
but who's going to run the university?
Who's going to have the institutional knowledge while you figure out who you want your team to be?
You can still get rid of all of them.
You just do it strategically,
and you do it once you line up the team you trust,
and then you replace them.
They're all at-will employees.
And by the way, if they do have a contract,
some of the senior people may have a contract, right? Either buy them out of the contract or you find a cause where you can
terminate them for cause, right? So you do it methodically and strategically because right now
you have gaps in leadership that could actually exacerbate. And we're talking about this as a
new story now. Why do you want another new story on top of that debacle? Just do it methodically and strategically and build your team.
That's how it ought to be done.
And this clean house approach is doing more damage to FAMU practically, pragmatically, and literally, and from a PR standpoint, bad move.
Still do it.
Just do it a different way.
How do you know that it's not methodical and strategic?
You don't know that.
That's what the report says.
The report says he didn't ask for his resignations from all 19 in one fell swoop.
I'm just going by what the report says.
And how do you know he hasn't picked his people already?
You just don't know that.
You cannot do a wholesale firing of your 19 senior people who have history and have operations with an institution of any institution in one fell swoop.
And if you have your team in place, I guarantee you they don't know more institutionally and from a process and procedure standpoint as much as that 19.
Those 19 may be very bad people for those positions,
but their value differential is that they've been there,
they have institutional knowledge, and now that you don't trust them,
then I don't trust you.
And if they're not leaving, right, the trail of failure,
they could sabotage some of the processes, the technology,
the procedures on their way out.
Why create that environment?
You don't need that environment.
You do it strategically.
All right.
Hold tight one second, folks.
We come back.
We're going to talk misinformation.
Trust me, I'm right about this.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Same thing I say, Roland.
Okay.
Same thing I say, Roland.
Okay.
Whatever.
All right.
We come back. We will talk about misinformation and how do we battle this on social media. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.
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I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley
comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company
dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
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This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
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Music stars Marcus King,
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drug ban.
Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette. MMA
fighter Liz Karamush.
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It really does. It makes it real.
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Alright, folks, there's a whole lot of misinformation out there on social media.
In fact, I was joking earlier with folks.
This AI photo was put on Twitter, and Donald Trump has been putting up these AI photos.
And I posted this, and I said, why isn't Donald Trump endorsing this AI photo of him with a black person?
But again, this is not real.
It's artificial intelligence.
There's a whole lot of this that's going on.
Shereen Mitchell is a social analyst, diversity strategist,
digital strategist as well.
She's here to explain this.
Listen, so Shereen, how do we avoid the misinformation?
Because it is stunning to me when you do claims
that are made now with AI, you can impersonate someone's voice.
You can I mean, you got with videos and photos, things along those lines and people post it.
They run with it without checking it, without checking with, you know, credible sources.
And it creates more problems. We're in such a different climate than we were in 2016.
In 2016, most people didn't even believe disinformation and misinformation even
existed on social media. Now we know it exists, voices, you know, and it is changing in such a way
that I think people are still not ready because we were not believing it when we first saw it
to stop it. So now we have to deal with it on the other side. So what I want to say to people,
there are tools you can use to try to check that information before you share it. I still tell people if it
gets you an emotional reaction, stop, pause, and then check and look for the sources of the
information coming at you. But you can do reverse lookups. Go ahead. Go ahead.
I am, when I see stuff, I immediately, like when I see a claim, I immediately go, okay, where's the link?
Where's the backup to support that particular comment?
And so I'm very, very cautious about that and very cautious about what information I also retweet or also repost on Instagram, on fan base, on the other platforms.
It's more than just pausing and looking for the source or the link. on Instagram, on fan base, on the other platforms?
It's more than just pausing and looking for the source or the link.
It's also at some point at this, because of AI, we need to now have other sources.
So there are other resources, free resources I'm going to mention,
because I know some people can't afford to just do this.
But, like, you can do reverse lookup on Google and other places, but there are tools like tiny eye, um, be very, and others that exist so that you can actually not only look at
photos, but look at videos because one of the challenges about these memes, because the memes
have gotten way more sophisticated is that the sources of those means are hard to find.
So if you don't do reverse
lookups in some form, you'll automatically believe it because it will do what I said before.
It's a kernel of truth in there wrapped in a whole bunch of lies, but the kernel of truth
is something you would believe. It's focused on your belief, not focused on the facts. So you
have to go look for the facts after you see something that basically aligns with you completely.
If you see something go like, I believe that, you should question, why would you believe that, without looking for a source to prove that backup in some form or fashion for yourself, especially before you share it and have other people thinking, well, you're a part of the problem.
We individually can stop some of this,
but let me just be fair about this conversation. Media also plays a part in this because sometimes,
sometimes they don't stop before they do their own research first. And I would love for them
to use some of the tools because they can afford the more sophisticated tools. But yes, this is
one of those conversations that is going to be going on all
the way until the election.
Questions from the panel. Scott, you first.
You're
right about one thing.
Five years ago,
ten years ago, whatever that time frame was,
we didn't even know what disinformation
or disinformation was.
There was one time, I'm old enough
to remember, we only had three TV stations.
There was no cable or anything else.
With the introduction of AI, especially in the legal field, but in every industry, it just seems scary now.
What's believable?
What isn't believable?
It's beyond fishy.
If you work in corporate America, you get all these technology tests.
We're going to send you a phishing and see whether you can identify it.
What does the average consumer do, though, whether they're elderly or middle-aged?
What can they do to protect themselves from this on a day-to-day basis?
Because you're busy.
You get something.
You automatically steal, presumably.
Believe it.
But it can be as phony as a, you know, I don't know, $3 bill.
I think that that's the problem. I think that even consumers feel like they're overwhelmed
with all the information they do get, right? So it's not just the information that's coming to
them, it's information coming from friends and family. So even in those moments, you also need
to check your own friends and family first. And the reason is because you would trust them before you would trust anybody else without even checking the source.
At that point, you need to check sources.
You need to go back to Google searches, like do image reverse lookup.
There are things that you can do really simply from your phone.
The minute you get something in a text message, you can drop that image into a Google reverse lookup search and
then figure out whether or not it's an accurate source or not. There are other resources, but
like for the elderly especially, some of it is just really simple using your phone. If you're
in Android, you can go to your Google Play, you know, Google search, sorry. And if you're on Android, you can go to your iOS
search and drop in there
as well.
Can I ask one quick question
now to help all of us out there?
Can I buy insurance
to protect
myself if I'm defrauded
through AI or
through the internet or through some
false information that I wrongfully relied on.
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I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened
when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
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This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.
Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real.
It really does. It makes it real. It really does.
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And the banks were basically like, no, you gave the code away.
So in those instances, the answer is no.
But if you're paying enough attention and you're doing your due diligence, you now have to spend more time to protect yourself.
The lawsuit part has to do way more down the road about defamation and other aspects of your image being used in an improper way.
But to basically say that you misunderstood information, that becomes you.
That doesn't become the information coming to you, just FYI.
Robert?
So, thank you so much for coming on and all the information you provide.
What we're seeing now is a deceptive image persuasion dip,
and other methods are being used by state-level actors in order to influence
not just elections here in the U.S., but globally.
We've seen that countries like Russia, China, Iran have entire bot farms,
that all they do 24 hours a day is try to influence U.S. politics and U.S. elections,
the same way that America tries to do in those countries also, quite frankly.
What are some resources that people can use?
So, for example, I use Ground News, where they give you a collation of all the news
articles. They give it a score of who's reporting on something. They tell you if conservative
outlets are reporting and liberal outlets, what nations it's being tagged on, in order to get
the most up-to-date information possible. But what are some resources people can use in their
everyday lives to help them filter out much of this deceptive information, because it's no longer
just some kid in their basement.
These are entire countries devoting tens of millions of dollars to persuade people about
this false information.
I think you said something really important about what you choose to use.
But the truth is, they need to look at, like, news feeds, like a feeder, like a news feeder,
so that you can see the whole list of all the news feeds,
so you can see what is real and what's not in the news feed. Because what you're speaking to
is very much the other part of the conversation. We know we just heard the conversations about the
both campaigns being potentially hacked for their information to be shared or dealt with.
We went through this in 2016. We know what this is. The problem is we have not really told America how to deal with it.
And in many ways, in my opinion, we've downplayed it so much that it's going to be a lot harder
to convince people to do other things.
But if you get a news feeder of news, that will help elders be able to see if that story
is true, you should see multiple stories of that same thing
that you can actually click and go to to double check.
But what you're using is one example.
There's Feedly.
There's a couple of others.
But you need a news feeder so you can see it from every source.
Yolanda?
Well, so the thing that really concerns me about social media
is there's AI in the social media.
So if you like something, it knows what you like to hear.
So, you know, and I know that they're listening to what I say because I can talk about something.
Next thing you know, things are coming up on my feed.
And I'm like, OK, so now I'm mindful of that, right? But one of the problems when you
receive all of your information from social media or from your phone is we've gotten away from
literally talking to people. I mean, I can remember going to my grandmother's house and talking to my
aunt or talking to my cousins, and we're arguing back and forth about what we believe is true,
and we have to defend our opinions or conclusions about things.
We need to do that. Right. We need to find a human to talk about it, to figure it out for older people.
I think that or younger people specifically. I'm sorry I misspoke.
We need to talk to older people because we're not as quick to just believe stuff.
But I mean, even with my son, for example, he would prefer to text than to talk.
And I think that we've got to stop that.
With AI, I've seen pictures.
I mean, I saw the picture of Trump
with a bunch of beautiful black women.
And then when you zoomed in,
like one woman had six toes.
And so I think that we need to slow down receiving information is what I think that we need to do.
And then we can figure it out. But I think that if we talk more to each other and stop doing things on the phone, I think it'll slow down the process.
And with the ground news, I looked at that, right? So they'll tell you,
they tell you stuff, but when we're getting junk emails and this and that, it's so much information,
right? Hold on one second. I need, go ahead, respond, Shereen. Okay. So, so the question
that you're asking is, yes, sometimes you got got to pick up the phone. But the problem is you've still got to make sure your elders know what sources to use to back up what they're using on their phone because they're not going to stop using your phones.
I'm not discounting what you're trying to say in reference to this, but I need to make sure that people understand.
We have to collectively change some of our patterns about how we get information and the resources that we have
available to, to actually go and look and do backups. Like for example, let your grandma
send you the image that she got. You do the lookup and send it back and say, Hey,
yeah, that was, I can't remember. That was something my mom put in our group chat.
And I was like, mama, I was like, I'm my mama'm my mama I did I said mama call me first
no again I saw it and I was like yo this is not true I was like no call me first before you put
in the group chat and so and that's and that's just I mean it looks listen uh if my brother did
it my sister did it if a cousin did it I'm do the exact same thing. So I ain't singing my mom out. I mean, I do that. Matter of fact,
a brother hit me up,
a brother hit me
on a DM.
He said, hey, man, I'm
watching your show.
Y'all got two L's and a period
for Illinois. It's IL.
I said,
and I told him, I said, brother, you don't
know Associated Press style.
You're using a postal code.
IL is the abbreviation for Illinois postal code.
The AP style book is IL period.
He's like, oh, damn, my bad.
So, again, folk, you know, but again, folk don't know.
And so I'm always telling people, if you see something like that, let folks know, hey, here's the truth.
Here's the reality.
And definitely, like I said, there are tools out there that you can use.
Tiny Eye.
There's a couple others.
Be Verify.
And those are free.
But, like, Google, you know, reverse lookup is actually the quickest one.
But each of you, what we can do as a collective is help others know
that maybe what they're sharing is a problem.
And even give them the tools.
Share with them if they don't want to listen to you.
Let them do it and learn
how to do reverse lookups.
We're now in a whole different world
where it's not just text anymore.
It's pictures, it's videos, it's
voiceovers. There's a whole bunch
of different things happening and we should be able to go back
and forth.
A lot.
Robert?
Oh, absolutely.
And so just on that same point, what we're looking at on social media now is the deep
fake phenomenon, where people are actually able to actually have videos of people in
their own voice saying whatever they want them to say.
And I think that might be one of the most difficult aspects to try to police,
because my mom sent me a video of Barack Obama saying that he endorsed Donald Trump,
asking me if it was real.
What are some of the best practices folks can use for when something just doesn't appear
to pass the smell test of how they can find those?
Because even with that, I did a reverse image search with it.
I knew it was fake, but I had to find the evidence to prove that it was fake.
And we ended up going to Reddit to find the source for where the thing came from for me to convince her that it wasn't a real thing.
So videos are a little bit trickier for multiple reasons.
And that's why sometimes you have to break it down in different ways.
It gets, you know, photo snapshots to do reverse lookup.
But when I was talking about Be Verified, Be Verified actually allows you to push that in as an actual video.
And it will tell you whether or not it believes that it's authentic or not in terms of whether or not it's a real, you know, somewhere, you know, there's a source out there for you to look at or whether or not it feels like it's like 24% or 2% AI generated.
And you can kind of move from there.
But videos, I'm being very honest.
When we've allowed AI to kind of run amok unchecked legislatively, because I've pushed back on this quite a bit myself personally, we now have, you know, it's in the wild.
Trying to fix it and pull it back is harder now.
We can't even get legislation passed about it because people think, well, you know, AI is good.
AI is good for us.
It's always challenging when we try to keep saying we still need AI ethics and regulation.
And without that, this will keep going.
And if we can prove it regularly, we have evidence to say, hey, AI is going too far.
We need to reel it in.
Gotcha.
We won't be able to stop it.
So, yeah, there are sources out there that check the videos.
But the deep fakes and the videos are some of the worst and, in my opinion, some of the most damaging moving forward in this election.
All right.
Shereen Mitchell, we still appreciate it.
Thank you so very much.
Thank you for having me. And I appreciate having this conversation moving forward because it's going to ramp up as we get closer to the election.
Absolutely. All right. Thanks a bunch.
Let me also thank Robert, Jolanda and Scott for being with us on today's show as well.
I'm going to go to a quick break. We're going to come back to in memoriams for us.
Wally, famous Amos has passed away.
And we also remember actress Erica Ashe.
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A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care
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We have this misunderstanding
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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves.
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Folks, Wally, famous Amos,
known for his famous Amos cookies,
is now an ancestor.
He passed away today at the age of 88 in his home in Honolulu.
His family said it was a result of dementia.
In 1975, he took $25,000
and started his cookie company.
First year grossing some $300,000 and then grew that to a multi-million dollar business.
He was known all across the world.
Once he sold his company, he became a significant speaker,
traveling around the world, telling his story about taking his aunt's cookie recipe
and turning it to one of the most prominent cookie brands
in the country.
Wildly famous Amos passed away at the age of 88.
Folks, on yesterday, friends and the family gathered
in Decatur, Georgia, at the House of Hope
to remember actress Erika Asch.
She passed away a couple of weeks ago
after an 18 year battle with cancer.
Erica was only 46 years old.
She was absolutely a beautiful soul, was a dear friend,
and so many people honored her, including actor Omar Dorsey.
They knew each other since they were 12 years old.
There were prom dates when his date flaked out on him,
and he shared this poem at her funeral.
Elder Donald, Sister Adrienne, Donald, Derek, the great Reverend Ash,
I certainly do appreciate you for giving me this moment to reflect on a person who I also call my sister, as you know.
And I do appreciate you giving me a three minute time limit because I like to hear the sound of my own voice.
So I need that. So with that being said, I did write something down.
A poem that I wrote for my sister. It's called E-A-ternity.
EA, together since we were kids, we realized our dreams
and reached the stars.
So intertwined, we even bought matching cars.
Laughter led us through our lives,
through your humor in every situation.
Even turned up, you were the compass to guide me from temptation.
I'm just glad that the world could see what I saw.
And I believe that God will stare down and smile at you in awe.
You are amazing just like that.
Nothing short of perfection, teaching me that the better part of valor is discretion
your natural beauty was unmatched any day and when you woke up you looked like a supermodel on the
runway you sang like Ella Fitzgerald from your heart bold and courageous nothing could rip you
apart you danced like Alvin Ailey with grace to watch you through life the same way was impressive and put a smile on my face.
You acted like Meryl Streep with such class.
You were an example to women.
You were an example to show how women could shadow all glass.
You were funny like Lucy and made us all laugh.
No one could deny your gift.
You were a genius at your craft.
Of all the talented folks I know, you exceeded them all.
You were funny, beautiful, and strong.
No doubt, every time you'd get up, every time you'd get up when you fall.
Yet, you didn't get up this time, and that's okay.
I'll remember you, EA, in a very special way.
I will miss your humor the most.
You were just that funny.
Your smile was pure as silk,
and your words flowed like honey.
I'm thankful to God for planting you
as a seed inside of me.
Today, I release you to fly, Erica, indefinitely. I send with
you a piece of my heart and the greatest of all
love. Be eternally.
Her father also shared
some great words about his daughter, Erica Ash.
Now that you've met the clan,
now you get to see the originator,
or one half of it.
One half of the originator.
I wrote some things down because I, you know,
like everybody has pointed out,
you know, we come from a family of jokesters and we had just had fun. You know, the kids always would have fun.
I'm always wrestling and rolling around with the boys.
And, you know, we I was a chaplain in the Army for 10 years, and we would always be gone away from the major part of our family,
and we would be traveling and come back to Florida,
and we just kind of did a lot of things together,
and that's why we were so close and we bonded so closely.
But as I reflect on the life of my daughter, certain words come to mind.
When I think of Erica, I think of her as a leader.
I think of her as a visionary.
I think of Erica as a socialite,
caring, persistent, funny.
You know, I could go on and on
about those things that I saw
in our daughter.
Erica always
A lot of times the big economic forces
we hear about on the news show up
in our lives in small ways.
Three or four days a week, I would buy
two cups of banana pudding.
But the price has gone up, so now
I only buy one.
The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on
Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.
And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business,
taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives.
With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams,
and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,
even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
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So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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I know a lot of cops,
and they get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future
where the answer will always be no.
Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Cops believed everything that taser told them.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Lott.
And this is season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
Yes, sir. We are back.
In a big way.
In a very big way.
Real people, real perspectives.
This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.
Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real. It really it. It makes it real.
It really does.
It makes it real.
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to
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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves.
We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers.
But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves.
A rap away, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else.
But never forget yourself.
Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth.
Never stop being a dad.
That's dedication.
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My glasses on because, you know, his writing on this phone is a bit small. But Erica always set the tone for others. Wherever she was, she set the tone. One of my favorite and most fondest memories
of Erica occurred when we lived in Germany. I remember looking out the window of our military housing unit,
checking on the kids as I normally would do,
checking, you know, making sure they were safe.
And I remember Erica running past the window,
and she had her crew of little girls following her, as she always did,
running, playing, laughing, having a good time.
And I just thought to myself, the carefree life of a child.
Folks, again, 46 years old.
It was always great to see her, talk with her.
Anytime I went to LA, I would stop by.
I remember that she came by the Soho House
and we were chatting and we had a B-Woke vote interview
with her and so we're gonna
restream that for you as well. Always smiling, always, I mean just absolutely
funny and so she is gonna be incredibly missed. Still just surprised and shocked
at the news of her passing. Again, 46 years old. We streamed her whole funeral.
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where her Hollywood friends are planning that as well.
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I know a lot of cops.
They get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future
where the answer will always be no.
This is Absolute Season 1.
Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
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I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Glod.
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This kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
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We met them at their recording studios.
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It really does.
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