#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump 100 Days, DOJ funding halt chaos, SAU fires basketball coach, Saquon Barkley/Trump golf drama
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streaming live on the Black Star Network. It is 100 days of the administration
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It has been an absolute mess.
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and they won't have to suffer any repercussions.
We're going to break all of this down.
We hear from former police chief and former congressman Val Demings, also attorneys as well.
Also, folks, Saquon Barkley, Philadelphia Eagles.
Talked about, oh, how, you know, why y'all mad at me?
Because I rode on Air Force One and I played golf with Trump.
Don't come at me with all this politics.
Oh, I will come at you with some politics.
How dumb is Peter Hegseth?
He champions the canceling of a program that was signed into law by Trump the first time
and that actually was sponsored by three people in Trump's administration.
I told y'all that boy is dumb. Justice Department halts a ton of federal grants,
including many dealing with corruption
as well as civil rights.
Anybody shocked?
No, not with the thugs of this administration.
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Well, it's been a hundred days since the twice-impeached,
criminally convicted con man,
felon in chief, absolute idiot has been in office and he's getting failing grades in a variety of polls.
Even Fox News and Lord, he ain't happy at that as well.
Folks, check this out.
A new PBS News NPR Marist poll.
Most Americans give him a failing grade.
45% of the U.S. adults, including 80% of Democrats and 49% of independents, rated Trump's return
to the Oval Office.
And F, at the other extreme, 23%, including 54% of Republicans, give him an A.
His 41% approval rating is the lowest for any newly elected Oval Office occupant in
100 days, dating back
to Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Now, the only thing Trump has accomplished in the first 100 days of his second term is
signing a bunch of executive orders.
We're going to get into those in a second.
But according to the data from the American Presidency Project at the University of California
in Santa Barbara, Trump has signed 142 executive orders.
The previous record held was President Franklin Roosevelt, who issued 99 executive orders
during his first 100 days in 1933, primarily to combat the Great Depression, according
to the Roosevelt Institute.
But, of course, it didn't take long for White House Press Secretary, that idiot Carolyn
Leavitt, to just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie,
and just hear a whole bunch of the lies she told the last 100 days.
Today officially marks 100 days of promises made and promises kept by President Trump.
This has truly been the most historic start to a presidency in American history.
After building the greatest economy in the world in his
first term as president, President Trump is in the process of doing that all over again.
The American people trust in President Trump. Since his first day in office, President Trump
has focused on defeating the Biden inflation crisis, bringing down the cost of living,
and making the United States the best place in the
world to do business, invest, create jobs, and innovate. And President Trump's efforts are
working. 345,000 jobs have already been added since the start of President Trump's term.
Last month's jobs report saw nearly 100,000 more jobs than economists predicted,
and it was the fourth highest month for private payroll growth in the past two years.
9,000 manufacturing jobs have been added to the economy already.
This is a sharp contrast to the 6,000 manufacturing jobs that were lost each month
in the final two years of the Biden administration.
See, I can't just keep listening to bullshit.
Oh, 6,000 lost a month in the last two years.
Boy, you conveniently skipped them first two years, huh?
I wonder why.
Folks, what's so crazy is that we also see that his idiotic tariffs,
the role they actually play, and he knows he's screwing up.
So what are the fools now today?
He's reversing course on some of the tariffs he imposed on imported cars and car parts.
Carmakers that pay a 25% tariff on vehicles will not be subject to other levies,
for example, on steel and aluminum,
and they will be able to qualify for relief on imported components
for the next two years.
See, let me explain to y'all why he's doing that,
because, you know, he keeps coming back,
well, you know what, I'm changing this, changing that.
See, that's because the economy is tanking.
In fact, the S&P 500 today closed its worst period, today, closed. It's worse, period.
It's worse in the first 100 days since the early 70s.
I didn't hear Carolyn Levin talking about that.
I didn't hear her talk about it.
And now all of a sudden, he's claiming they've got a tariff trade deal with India. They keep saying how they're negotiating all these people, but they won't tell you exactly who.
It's just crazy. Just crazy, they keep saying how they negotiate with all these people, but they won't tell you exactly who. It's just crazy.
Just crazy, crazy, crazy.
And so, it's just more drama. And look, this is
CNBC's homepage. Go to my iPad.
Look at that. Starbucks
earnings miss.
Coffee chain says see momentum will turn around.
You go up here. Snap plundered
13% on headwinds to start
quarter. Inability go up here. Snap plundered 13% on headwinds to start quarter. Inability to offer
guidance. Super micro shares died after server maker issues. Weak preliminary financials. I mean,
we can go on and on and on, and you'll see how awful the economy is doing. So let's get into
it with my panel. Joining me right now is Joe Richardson, civil rights attorney out of Los
Angeles. Glad to have Joe on the show. Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental
justice at the EPA out of D.C. as well. Well, Joe's from L.A. Mustafa's in D.C. Dr. Larry J.
Walker, associate professor, University of Central Florida from Orlando. Glad to have
all three of you here. I mean, I just sit here and listen to these folk lying. I mean,
the man has screwed up left and right. He's tanked the economy. He's gotten Wall Street nervous.
CEOs are constantly telling him, you know what, your tariffs are a pretty stupid idea.
And he still keeps suggesting, Larry, that, oh, no, that we're going to make so much from tariffs,
you're not going to have to pay income tax again.
Yeah, tariffs are doing so well that Amazon, as we heard today,
is considering putting the price that you would usually pay with, I guess, a price,
a separate price that shows that, you know, additional fees you pay because of all these tariffs.
And I know, you know, he's always talking about winning, but he's not winning in the United States economy, and Americans are not
winning. And Roland, anyone who understands basic economics knew that this was going to happen.
And if he continues along this path with tariffs and suggesting this is a way to stimulate the
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Have a recession and we're going to fall into a depression that we haven't seen
since the Bush era. And so we can't, you know, and listen, you know, I said on your show before,
Roland, this is a few months ago, a lot of Americans voted for this.
And for those of us who did not vote for this, we don't want to have to pay these additional surcharges for everything from cars to houses to clothes to buying food.
And this is going to really hit a lot of his voters, particularly those in those rural, underserved communities who insist on voting against their best interests every single year.
But you also talked about him backtracking on several of these tariffs.
But the damage is done. And if he doesn't reverse all of them and show some kind of level of sanity, we're going to be in for a long haul. And again, you know, what you're seeing is sheer chaos from this NUG case.
And, you know, they love just sort of making announcements that never turn pan out as well.
I saw this one story here where the Pfizer CEO said tariff uncertainty is deterring further U.S. investment in manufacturing R&D. And so they can sit here
in a Yale hollering scream all day long how great the things are going, but that ain't the case for
the people who actually hire. Mustafa? Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you know, Larry kind
of broke it down for us, right? So we know that food prices are up. We know that housing prices are up. We know that car prices are up. And a
number of other things, you know, are becoming more expensive. But then we also know that 401ks
and retirement plans are down. So when folks don't have disposable income, then companies that might
be considering expanding or building in America, they understand
that there's less disposable income. So they're going to probably not make those investments
until they find some stability. I bring stability into our conversation because that's what the
stock market wants. It always wants to have stability when they feel that regulations are
in alignment and when they feel that policies are in alignment, then more people dump money into the market.
And therefore, wealthy people continue to make money.
When folks don't have that stability and the policies that they, these economic policies that they put forward have not created any stability.
What it has created is chaotic situations.
You are much less likely to have folks wanting to build in America.
So, you know, they continue to sort of, you know, send these pipe dreams to folks. And because most
folks don't have enough time to slow down and actually take a look at economic policy, to
actually take a look at the numbers, they just believe what folks say there on the White House
from the press office, instead of actually being able to understand that
we are in a very dire situation. But it is a dire situation that this administration created
because actually one of the, you know, our nation's best sort of economic situations was
under the last administration where they were creating jobs, they were creating stability,
so forth and so on. So we've just got to make sure that when people are saying things that we are actually
ground truthing them, both in the reality of when you're going to the grocery store,
when you're trying to pay your rent or your mortgage, but also in those unbiased places
that share the reality economically of what's happening across our country.
You know, I get a kick out of all this talk,
Joe. Donald Trump is going
to lower egg prices.
Really?
This is what it looks like.
That doesn't look
like egg prices
are lower. Looks like
they're kind of high.
Yeah. And that's not the only thing that's higher, right?
Prices are higher all around.
Everybody else has said what I would say.
Basically, you know, the markets thrive on stability and even certainty.
Companies that want to invest, want to do things, want to do R&D.
If they feel like they have a deal with the president and then the deal goes away,
they don't want to hire thousands of people or invest millions of dollars to have something
change on a whim because of a personality issue. So, even folks that are on the right side of him
right now, you know, which is interesting. I saw Candace Owens talking about how she was just amazed that the president is going
against the First Amendment.
Well, he does things that are unconstitutional all the time.
And so for you to think that you're on the right side of him right now, to think you'll
always be on the right side of him, you know you have to look at him sideways.
And if you actually have to make decisions based on what he says with your pocketbook,
that's going to make you more resident, reticent, more hesitant.
People are going to hold on to the money to the extent that they have it.
You have basically higher prices and less money, and that's going to continue to perpetuate.
And so what I think is that what folks are getting ready to find out, if they don't know
it already, we haven't felt the brunt of the decisions that he's made related to the tariffs yet.
We haven't felt it yet.
Not like it's going to come through in the next three to six months.
We are really going to feel it.
And we're really going to understand what happens when you say something and then you try to reverse it.
But you have a market that thrives on certainty and stability.
And your words no good. Your words no good.
It's going to be a no go. And so that's going to get worse before it gets better.
Yeah. I mean, this is what you're dealing with.
You're dealing with absolute craziness from this case.
And again, his his cultists,
they believe everything is just wonderful,
going along swimmingly.
Yeah, but they're going to be in for a rude awakening as well.
Going to go to a break.
We'll come back.
Lots to talk about.
St. Augustine's another lawsuit they are facing.
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Well, another day, another St. Augustine University lawsuit,
this time coming from their former NBA player turned basketball coach, Clarence Chucky Brown.
He claims that university terminated his contract without cause.
Brown brings brought more than 30 years of experience as a player, coach, scout, and mentor, he played for 13 years in the NBA
and spent 15 years coaching or scouting.
Also played for the Houston Rockets as well.
He holds a league record for playing on the most teams during his NBA career,
having played for 12 teams.
Now, court documents say Brown was fired in December.
However, he's still listed as the head coach on the school's website.
Here are other lawsuits SAU
is facing. Howard Fagans v. St. Augustine
University. Management
Professionals Inc. v. St. Augustine University.
Victoria Lee De La Cruz
v. St. Augustine's. SBA Connect
LLC. Averia Inc.
and Clarence Brown Jr. v. St.
Augustine University. As usual,
we contacted the university
for a comment. They did not respond to our request. I mean, it just happens over and over
and over and over again. And Joe, I'm sorry, if you're in a financial problem, last thing you need
are more lawsuits. Yeah, that's for sure. You need to start having some serious discussions.
If you're in a financial problem and you know that there's potential for you not to be able to fulfill your obligations
or that you would be better off meeting someone halfway, what you don't do is go ahead and decide
to fire them for cause because now there's a question as to whether or not the cause was
actually there. What you ought to do is create a negotiation and come up with the best thing you can in the way of a win-win so somebody can break wide and bounce if that's what they need to do.
You're going to draw more bees with honey.
And so now they have all of this potential exposure because of these lawsuits.
Now, you know, we don't know.
We'd like to think that they have insurance or whatever else, and then they're just, you know, paying whatever it is that they have to pay as a deductible related to that. But it doesn't make them look good. When you have to contract
or get smaller the way that they have, slashing half your staff and all of these other things,
your school's on the ropes to begin with. So you have to really do some things in order to be able
to survive unless you're just giving it all up. But that doesn't mean that you're not going to
be legally liable.
That's why Chucky Brown, who I think played for the Lakers, too.
He played for everybody else.
That's why Chucky Brown is taking his shot, and he's going to go down the road, and they're
going to be in this litigation for a while.
I mean, it's just, Larry, it's just another day, another lawsuit, more drama.
And it's like, oh, my God, can y'all please put all this crap behind you?
But no, you got dysfunctional administration.
You got the totally dysfunction
on the board of trustees.
Yeah, you know, Roland,
I sort of served on a board
for an institution of similar size.
And, you know, every time I see something like this,
obviously you talk about leadership,
but hopefully you can get this resolved because this is an important and historic institution
that's been serving students for years. And I even know a few alums. So hopefully they can
get this issue resolved. But, you know, this number of lawsuits, it taints the image of the
institution. It makes it difficult to recruit students and faculty and staff.
And it's essentially when we see institutions of similar size go through these, it kind of just wears down. And like I said, student population, the windows, faculty and staff, and then, you know, accreditation, among other challenges,
really prevent the school from being rebounding and addressing some of the issues with losses you described and some of the other challenges that they're obviously going to encounter in the
future. I'm hopeful that, you know, maybe they need perhaps a change in leadership. You talked
about the trustees, talked about the leadership, et cetera, other leaders at the institution.
But this is never good when you see these several, you know, lawsuits filed within a short period of
time.
And I'm quite sure there's some alum watching here who share the same concern.
So hopefully this can get resolved.
Some of these lawsuits can get resolved and the institution can bounce back.
I mean, look, I mean, look, they didn't even have 30 graduates, Mustafa.
And let me tell you how bad this is.
They put this press release here out. SAU received $132,000 from Alfred Street Baptist Church, wiping out debt for graduating seniors. And so this is the cumulative debt
for 11 of the 25 graduating seniors in the class of 2025. And I'm like, 25 graduates? That's, that's your... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked
all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company
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Senior class.
That's called, y'all got some problems.
I've never, again, man,
I've done like 20 HBCU commencements.
I ain't never seen a graduating 25. Yeah, that's wild. I mean, we all want HBCUs to win. I mean,
all of us have been affiliated with them in one way or another, whether teaching or attending
or supporting. So that, you know So that's where we start from.
But there are some of our institutions that have to do a much better job of fiscal management.
And when you don't do that, I mean, we're focused right now on St. Augs, but this is a broader
narrative because we understand when, whether it is one of our businesses or our educational institutions
run into problems, folks don't just look at that one institution. There is a broad brush
that is often used and the narrative that is created. And the reason that I raise that
is because we currently have an administration that we're living under, who will utilize
these types of situations and will say, these are the reasons that we should not be investing
additional dollars into these historic institutions.
But they will say that we cannot handle the responsibility that is necessary.
I hope that doesn't offend anyone, but we all know that they
love to manipulate information and they love to cherry pick what they share and how they build
policy around it or executive orders. So that's why I think it's incredibly important for us to
make sure, one, that we are supporting our institutions, but we also have to make sure
that they have the individuals on the boards who are going to make sure that they're doing the oversight that's necessary so that we can continue to make sure that they thrive.
So when we see these types of things happening at St. Augs, it's not something that happened just overnight.
So we've got to make sure that we're tightening up so that we are prepared for the fights that are in front of us.
Oh, indeed, indeed.
All right, folks, we're going to go to break and we come back.
Saquon Barkley, running back for the Philadelphia Eagles,
posted something yesterday on his Twitter page.
Let's just say it caught my eye.
I got a couple of things to say about.
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And you're watching Roland Martin.
I'm filter. This is Tamela Mann. And this is David Mann. And you're watching Rolling Mark. On to the two. Thank you. Thank you. Well, yesterday the Super Bowl champ Philadelphia Eagles were at the White House.
And, of course, they were there.
And, of course, the con man was there as well, celebrating them and taking digs at Taylor Swift,
all kind of stuff along those lines.
So that was going on.
But you know what, though?
You had a few of the players who said, you know what, man?
I ain't feeling this.
And they didn't show up.
They did not show up to the event.
This here is a list of 15 Eagles players who did not show up.
Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith, Darius Slade, Brandon Graham, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Josh Sweat, Zach Bond,
N'Kobe Dean, Nolan Smith, Isaiah Rogers, Jalex Hunt.
And I say, great.
I appreciate them having enough sense not to show up
because they weren't having any of that.
Oh, but Lord, guess who was just feeling himself, just having a ball?
And that is Saquon Barkley.
Oh, my goodness, y'all.
In fact, he was just having such a good little time.
He was on the White House lawn just sitting here,
just having a ball, running routes with Ivanka's child,
and they were just sitting here just living it up.
And so Saquon was just so happy.
And give me one second.
I'm going to pull this up.
He was just so happy just to be there.
And let's see here.
Here's a little video here of
running routes. And ooh,
Saquon was just enjoying himself,
y'all, just having a time of his
life on the White House lawn.
And, you know,
that was, he
took a little hit because
he was, let me go ahead
and pull this up, y'all, so y'all
can just see this here.
Because, you know, he flew from Philadelphia on Air Force One with Trump.
And, man, he was just so excited, just so happy to be in the presence with Trump.
And look at him just enjoying himself.
And, you know, just, ooh, man, I'm here with Daddy Trump.
I'm here with Daddy, Daddy Trump.
So that was Saquon and them getting on Air Force One.
And again, he's all happy.
And then they took a photo in the Oval Office
and folk were talking about that and everything
and just how wonderful it was
and how it was just great to be there,
all smiles and everything like that.
But he also released a tweet because a few folks had some things to say.
And he – as a matter of fact, hold on before we do that.
So here's Saquon and Trump with the Make America Great Ahead again.
Ooh, just Saquon, just excited to be next to the orange man.
Just, ooh, he just excited.
So this is what he posted.
But, you know, that wasn't the thing that got folk a little riled up.
So Saquon saw what people were saying.
He posted this tweet.
LOL, some people are really upset
because I played golf.
I played golf and flew to the White House
with the president.
We need some grammar.
Okay, maybe I just respect the office.
That a hard concept to understand.
Just golfed with Obama not too long ago
and look forward to finishing my round with
Trump. Now you get out of my mentions with
all this politics and have an amazing day.
I think you may have an amazing
day. So
don't y'all find it interesting
when somebody say get out of my mentions
with all this politics.
You're the one kissing
Trump's ass.
You're the one kissing Trump's ass. You're the one going to the White House
and oh, how wonderful and great it is.
And so go back to his statement.
I love this line.
Maybe I just respect the office,
not a hard concept to understand.
See, I find that line to be interesting, Saquon.
Because you say you respect the office.
But you are hanging out, slapping backs with,
and having yourself a grand little time
with somebody who didn't respect the office.
Remember January 6th?
Remember January 6th?
Remember what was happening January 6th?
Remember we saw all of the protests going on?
Remember we saw the beating of cops?
Remember we saw them with the mace and all that?
Remember all that?
I mean, I'm sorry, you know what?
Maybe Saquon was busy studying his playbook.
Maybe that was happening.
Maybe he missed like, you know, these images right here.
Oh, you know what?
Oh, that's right, respecting the office these images right here. Oh, you know what?
Oh, that's right, respecting the office.
How about respecting the office when you claim your election was rigged when everybody else didn't say that?
How about that?
How about this, Saquon?
He was impeached twice.
How about him being a massive liar?
Does he respect the office with his treatment of women?
Does he respect the office with his anti-black agenda?
Please, Saquon, let us know how you feel.
So, y'all, this is the problem when you have these grossly uninformed athletes.
It ain't just him.
Did y'all see the article?
Did y'all see the article? Did y'all see the article?
Terrence Howard.
Terrence Howard, y'all.
This is going to make y'all crack up laughing. Terrence Howard said he was 100% down with Trump until he started deporting people.
This is Terrence Howard talking to Bill Maher.
Listen to this.
This is a country of snitches and bitches.
And when they want to just disappear you, not to get off on a tangent about how Trump is like literally doing that to people now.
I was all in his corner.
And that right there, that hit me.
I was like, dude, you can't do that to somebody's family.
No, you cannot.
You cannot do that.
Bring them home.
Well, you just can't send American citizens or even—
Out of the country.
Out of the country, right to a prison and not just a prison.
Wow.
I was all in his corner until he started doing that.
Fool!
He told you last year he was going to do that.
Saquon Barkley and Terrence Howard, utter embarrassment.
Utter embarrassment.
Ill-informed. utter embarrassment ill informed don't understand the issues
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Ambassador Trump, I had a great time with Ambassador Trump.
I got to run around the garden with his grandkids,
and I got to hug on his daughter, Ivanka.
Ooh, it was great.
Then you had that dumbass other Philadelphia player who said, oh I saw Ivanka. She's so beautiful
She's my type
Boy do you need glasses?
Did your contacts fog up?
Who y'all these these black men are an absolute embarrassment.
I mean, just embarrassing.
Look at this fool, Eli Ricks.
Donald Trump's daughter is beautiful, damn. After seeing her in person, Ivanka is exactly my type.
Oh, are we seeing the same person?
I just sit here and listen.
I get it. It's people, oh, again, I respect the office.
I remember Nelly would say the same thing.
But I'm going to tell you all right now.
I cannot roll with somebody who constantly disrespects the office
and then say that I should respect the office.
Larry, when I was showing some of that, you almost came out your skin.
You gone right ahead.
Just got to acknowledge I'm from Philly, which means by birthright,
I'm a huge Eagles fan.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, so, Roland, listen, I was texting family and friends yesterday
because Saquon was getting cooked after helping my squad win a Super Bowl.
But he's in the sunken place, brother. I don't know. I don't know what else to say about it.
But you know what? If you follow Saquon's career, I follow him since high school.
But if you followed him for those out there, you're not surprised he said what he said.
But it's disappointing to see black men perform like that.
You know, we talk a lot about the challenging times we're in right now.
And so when I see, you know, someone that's representing my city, my hometown,
all the challenges that black folks are dealing with and will continue to deal with next several years, I have a serious problem with it.
And like I say, he was getting cooked yesterday and rightfully so by black folks, particularly black folks from Philly.
We're not trying to hear that.
Roman, as you well know, Philadelphia has a long history of black activism.
So it is the wrong city for that nonsense.
And I'm quite sure he'll hire some PR person, and
you'll see within the next few months,
him come out, we'll talk about his donating
scholarship money to, you know,
one of the local HBCUs or UNCF
or something like that. You'll see something like that over the next
couple of months. But he can't get
back what he lost, after being
the offensive player of the year and leading
my squad to the Super Bowl. But I was extremely disappointed
to see a brother doing that yesterday.
So that's all I have to say.
Joe, is this Saquon's new look right here?
Oh.
Oh, my.
And, you know, to remember what the character did in that movie was kind of crazy.
So it's kind of one of those if you know, you know things.
Go back and watch it, Jordan Peele's film, if you need to.
But I think the problem here is that there's people such as Saquon in this particular situation.
You just don't understand the moment that we're in.
And maybe things have gone so well for you that you don't have to do that or that you
don't feel like you have to do that.
But you're missing the boat when you feel like you ought to, despite the fact that the president himself does things that would suggest
that his presidency is not normalized, that his representation, his work, whatever it is he's
doing is not normalized, you would still overlook everything he's doing and or not doing and
normalize him. You can say you're respecting the presidency, but what do you do
when the president himself doesn't respect the presidency, right? And I give it up to Jalen Hurts
and I give it up to Devontae Smith and, you know, big players on that team, consequential players
on that team who have done what they've needed to do to at least not normalize the president in that moment.
Now, there's more that athletes that have resources and that have influence can and should do.
You recall back to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Jim Brown and Muhammad Ali back in the 60s.
But, you know, Saquon wants to be O.J., okay, you know, I guess.
But maybe just like O.J. back in the 60s when it goes down in the 90s,
maybe there'll be a moment when you'll need our support the same way.
And I guess we'll just have to talk back then.
You know, Mustafa, I think this might be the quarterback room
or the meeting room at the Philadelphia Eagles right here
as they try to figure out, like, Lord, what we got here.
Because clearly he is impacted by the team right there.
Just sound like a fool.
You know, I respect the office.
Yeah, but you with somebody who respects nobody.
He has no respect for women. He has no respect for human rights. He has no respect for the law.
And he's absolutely anti-black. But Saquon Barkley
is up there just cheesing. Oh, I'm just cheesing.
Yeah, when I saw the picture
of the brother, you know, with the dude who's sitting in the White House right now,
the first thing I thought about was get out because I was like, something done happened.
This can't really be you.
You know, somehow they done hypnotized you or something.
And I thought y'all going to bring up Clayton Bigsby, if you remember that Dave Chappelle character,
because we got so many folks who continue to
shuck and jive. You know, James Baldwin once said, I can't believe what you say because I see what
you do. So when I look at Jalen and I see him taking a stance, when I see some of those other
brothers taking a stance, what they are also saying is that I understand what my brothers
and sisters are going through, who maybe who haven't had the same level of success as me. When you have an administration, as you said, Roland, that is
anti-Black. There's no way of getting around that. When you put out executive orders almost on a
daily basis and you make sure that you have language in there, not just talking about DEI,
but talking about quotas and having all this misinformation and disinformation inside of them that makes it sound like you all have done something significant for black folks.
And now they've got to find a way to pull it back, knowing that in your first administration,
you did absolutely nothing for black folks.
People will look at a little bit around some of the things they did about getting some folks out of prison
and the little bit of dollars that they gave to HBCUs.
But when you add that up next to, you know, all of the things that you have now stripped away,
your whole administration is about erasure of black folks, erasure both in our history.
We saw what they just did over the African-American Museum.
We've seen what they continue to do at all these different agencies and departments, you know, erasing the successes
and the work that folks have done, but at the same time really getting down to the policy part
of taking basic resources away from nonprofits and others who are focused on helping to build
that safety net for our community and
other communities. So for you to stand next to him, what you are saying is that I'm OK with that,
because, you know, they're going to utilize your image to say, hey, you know what, if someone who
played in the Super Bowl and who's this great football player can stand next to and support
Trump, then everybody else should be doing
it as well.
And what he's also saying is that those sets of actions that his administration has done—and
let's also bring into the conversation that they have a bunch of white nationalists who
are a part of his administration, who are a part of the development of the policies
that they're doing.
What you are saying when you're standing next to him and smiling, whether you want to admit it was consciously or unconsciously, is that it is
okay for you to do all these negative things to Black communities and other vulnerable communities.
So you got to carry the weight now, brother, because you made the decision to enter into that
space, and you gave away some of your credibility by being
right next to him, putting your hand on his shoulder or whatever else y'all may have done,
you've got to remember that our community should have demands, both of ourselves and of those who
have been blessed to be in spaces and places that other folks aren't. Last thing I'll say is because
I don't just talk about stuff without actually living it
myself.
There have been administrations, Democratic administrations, who have invited me to the
White House.
And because they were doing things at that time that I felt were detrimental to our communities,
I said, I can't come.
And here's the reasons why.
And if you begin to move in a better direction, I'm more than willing to be able to step up
and be in that space, take a picture or whatever it might be.
But if you're not willing to do that, and why do I do that?
Because my father raised a man and a man who has to stand on principle.
So, you know, I'm sure this brother has done all kinds of other amazing things.
And I hope he just has this moment as an ability to reflect and to say that, you know, I'm sure this brother has done all kinds of other amazing things. And I hope he just has this moment as an ability to reflect and to say that, you know, we don't represent everybody inside of our communities.
But often when we are in front of cameras, we are what people see.
So what we do matters.
And, of course, Donald Trump stood there and lied.
He lied.
He lied, he told his story about how he called the New York Giants, told them,
oh don't get rid of Barkley, go to my iPad.
Giants denied Donald Trump's claim he told team
to keep Saquon Barkley, we had no conversations with him.
The team says there were no conversations
between them and that fool.
Just a liar, that's all he is.
He's a liar, Larry,. Just a liar. That's all he is. He's a liar, Larry.
He's a liar.
So, Saquon Barkley, you are cool with rolling with a liar.
And we all know you're a liar.
Yeah, it's like joining a group of con men,
and you're surprised you end up in jail.
He's really ruined his credibility.
And even when we're only talking about that story.
I saw that yesterday when he made that comment.
And then, like you said, they showed that the giant said it wasn't true.
But this is one of a lot of, you know, things that are not true that have happened, you know, in the first hundred days of this presidency.
We saw that a few years ago.
And we'll see that for the next hundred days and next hundred days after that.
A lot of statements that are not true and once again shaquan bartley is basically you know connecting himself with someone who's a hustler in the line yep absolutely all right y'all gotta go
to break we come back trump signed an executive order yesterday regarding law enforcement. And when I say, when I say
this is absolutely anti-black,
oh, it is.
And we're going to unpack this thing
and trust me, y'all
are going to trip out to
understand how far-reaching
this is. That's next.
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into deadly violence.
You will not replace us.
White people are losing their damn minds.
There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
This is part of American history.
Every time that people of color have made progress,
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This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys.
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Here's all the Proud Boys guys.
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Yes, sir. We are back.
In a big way.
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Real people, real perspectives.
This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
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It makes it real.
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You want to turn that shit off?
We're doing an interview, motherfucker. Thank you. I have consistently told y'all that this administration is absolutely anti-black.
We have detailed this numerous times how anti-black these folks are.
We warned folk during the campaign that Donald Trump does not give a damn about black people.
He doesn't care if cops beat people.
He doesn't care if they maim people.
He doesn't care if cops kill people because he believes they can do no wrong. Now remember during the campaign when Donald Trump said that
he wanted to give cops
100% immunity?
And folks were like,
okay, you know what, alright.
Y'all making a big deal out
of that. This really ain't nothing
to make a big deal out of.
Really.
Yesterday,
this is the executive order that Donald Trump released.
It's called strengthening and unleashing America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and protect innocent citizens.
So then when you start going under here, he talks about, oh, it's about safe communities, blah, blah, blah.
Businesses that suffer because of crime, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But then right here you get to Section 2, the legal defense of law enforcement officers. The attorney general shall take all appropriate action to create a mechanism
to provide legal resources and indemnification to law enforcement officers
who unjustly incur expenses and liabilities for actions taken during the performance
of their official duties to enforce the law.
This mechanism shall include the use of private sector pro bono assistance
for such law enforcement officers.
Now, let me stop right there.
See, you now may be asking, really, I'm confused here.
Don't they have immunity?
Are they qualified immunity?
Don't you already have law?
No, no.
This is Trump saying, we're going to provide legal counsel for y'all.
And remember when Trump extorted the money from all
those law firms, when he signed those illegal executive orders
and they agreed to do pro bono work for whatever causes he wants, he
is going to tell Pam Bondi, hey, go to those
law firms that I've already extorted and they're going
to work for these cops for free.
That's literally what he's saying.
Go back to the rest.
Go back to the—then it says empowering state and local law enforcement.
They're going to sit here, expand access-proof training, increase pay and benefits, strengthen and expand legal—see?
Strengthen and expand legal protection for law enforcement officers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, using national security assets for law and order.
He wants to use the military.
You see this?
Department of Homeland Security.
Holding state and local officials accountable.
You see this here?
Look, I love this.
Willfully and unlawfully direct the obstruction of criminal law, including by directly and
unlawfully prohibiting law enforcement officers
from carrying out duties necessary for public safety and law enforcement.
Boom, right here.
Unlawfully engage in discrimination or civil rights violations
under the guise of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives
that restrict law enforcement activity or endanger citizens.
Keep going.
You see this here?
All these things they're going to do.
Folks, I want you all to understand something.
In the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division,
hundreds of people are resigning
because they are gutting the deal with J. Civil Rights Division.
That means Ahmaud Arbery. That means Eric Garner. That means, I mean,
we can start naming all these cases. Tyree Nichols. Derek Chauvin. Derek Chauvin was pled guilty to federal charges in the death of George Floyd.
I'm telling y'all right now, Donald Trump is saying the DOJ is out of the business of prosecuting cops. He pardoned two officers in D.C. who were convicted of their involvement in the death
of a black man.
When he came back in January, pardoned them.
Those two cops are now back on the police force.
We interviewed a reporter last week about the case of the L.A. deputy sheriff who brutalized
the black woman who was recording an encounter. He was found guilty. Trump's US attorney
hey judge can we review this give us three months to review the case? Judge said
no he gonna be sentenced on May 19. Watch. I guarantee you within 10 days of the sentence being handed down,
Trump is going to pardon him.
What we are now seeing, we are now about to see a level of brutality
that is being absolutely authorized by the Oval Office.
Val Demings, former police chief,
former law enforcement officer for decades,
former member of Congress.
She joins us right now.
Glad to have you back on the show.
It's good to be back with you.
I wish it was under different circumstances,
but every day things just seem
to get crazier and crazier, as I'm sure you know. This is a dangerous executive order,
and this is an executive order. It is targeting Black people. It is targeting civil rights
attorneys, and it is saying to law enforcement, do whatever you want. I got you.
You know, Roland, what's so amazing about this order, and look, everybody, whether you voted
for Trump or not, shouldn't be surprised at some of the lawless, unhinged, chaotic, crazy foolishness that we see coming out of the Oval Office every day.
But in the executive order, when in the title it talks about unleashing American law enforcement
officers, and you know, Roland, I spent almost three decades in law enforcement. It was a job that I loved because I felt like working with my community, we were making a difference.
But this is about dividing communities.
And I am just praying that local sheriffs and police chiefs or law enforcement leaders don't fall for it this time.
Because the bottom line is Donald Trump doesn't give a damn about law enforcement leaders don't fall for it this time, because the bottom line is,
Donald Trump doesn't give a damn about law enforcement. I think he demonstrated that
on January 6th. Look, I was there. I witnessed it. I know he sat in the White House staring at
the TV for hours doing nothing while police officers were being beat down by his supporters.
I think he basically called it
a beautiful thing. But he doesn't care, give a damn about law enforcement officers. But we do
know that he's in trouble right now. That 39 percent approval rating is bothering him. And
we know what he does when he's in trouble. He pulls something out of, well, I won't go there, but, and usually racism and sexism are the
go-to things.
And you're absolutely correct.
As I'm reading this executive order and I get to law enforcement basically should not
spend time on DEI programs and more time on. Like, how the heck
did that get in there? Because the bottom
line is, look, they're going to work every day
trying to reduce crime for the most part.
And the truth of the matter is
violent crime all over the nation
is down right now. They need to keep
working at it every day.
But what sparked the sudden interest
in Donald Trump suddenly
falling in love with law enforcement again and pulling out the isms?
It's not recent.
This was May.
Folks, this was May.
This was almost one year ago to the day.
Listen to this.
We're going to rebuild our cities. We're going to bring them back like they used to be. We're going to rebuild our cities.
We're going to bring them back like they used to be.
We're going to make them safe places again.
We're going to give our police their power back,
and we're going to give them immunity from prosecution
so they're not prosecuted for doing their job.
We'll take over the horribly run capital of our country,
Washington, D.C., and clean up, renovate,
and rebuild our capital city so that it's no longer a nightmare of murder.
See, he doesn't—
And, Roland—
Go ahead.
It's four years, though.
My point is, on January 6th, the lawlessness that took place at the Capitol when the president
could have done something about it.
He did nothing and he said nothing.
And isn't it interesting that now, the last year, he is suddenly so interested in let's protect, let's do something, let's look out for law enforcement.
And it's interesting, too, that nowhere in his order does it say wrongdoing or violating policies or violating the law. Nowhere does it say those things matter.
No, it doesn't. Executive order. No, but he doesn't. He doesn't care about victims. He doesn't
care about somebody who's been brutalized or maimed or killed. He doesn't. His whole deal is,
hey, y'all deserved it. That is his belief. Remember, this is the same guy who called for
the death penalty for the then Central Park five, now the exonerated five.
And you know, for, it's amazing as I read it, oh, you know, increased pay and benefits for it's he believes we know he believes that everybody can be bought.
I mean, we know he believes that. And now here said, nowhere does it say whether they were engaged in criminal activity
or violation of policies or laws, because he believes that law enforcement can be bought.
And, Roland, they cannot solve crime without trust and a relationship with the communities.
And that's why I'm hoping that through these turbulent times, you know,
Donald Trump has clearly showed us who he is. It's amazing. The most recognizable criminal
in the world suddenly wants to pretend to be all about law and order. And I'm certainly hoping that
police chiefs and sheriffs will not fall for his foolishness because regardless of what
the federal government says they're going to do or not do, local law enforcement cannot
solve crimes without a relationship and trust and cooperation in those local communities.
And I do believe that the overwhelming majority of law enforcement officers do want to solve
crime.
But here's the problem.
We know for a fact that he is playing to the crowd.
And look, Congresswoman, we got to admit,
it's a whole bunch of right-wingers in law enforcement,
and this is music to their ears.
We've had, every time something happened, I've seen cops in Baltimore and Chicago.
Oh, our morale is down.
Look, I remember Jeff Sessions, his first attorney general.
Hey, we're going to pull back on these consent decrees because the morale of our cops is too low.
And Barr saying the same thing as well.
Now, the reaction should be, if you are in the wrong and you've beaten a citizen, you've got to go.
No, but that blue line is just blinking in a huge way.
And Trump is saying, I'm going to let y'all do what y'all want to do.
And, Roland, you know, I spoke to a group of law enforcement officers recently. And what I said
was that you have to be, because you are the most visible symbol in every community. And you have to
work hard to be the most visible symbol of honesty, decency, and integrity, and have a message that
everybody counts, but everybody's accountable, and treat people with dignity and respect.
Look, as a police chief, I didn't want bad apples on my police department, and I did everything that
I could do to reward the good officers, but to get
rid of the bad officers. And so you're correct. The president's actions, which he obviously
doesn't care about law and order. We know that. But he's sending a message to bad cops
that don't worry about it. Do whatever you want to do. It doesn't really matter. I got your backs.
And that is a, that will be a disaster, as we well know, in communities all over this country.
Yeah, I remember, go to my iPad, Anthony.
I remember this.
This was in L.A. where this guy was just sitting there asking the question.
Boom, cop just punched him in the mouth.
Okay.
You know, and we've seen these actions. We've seen what has happened. We yesterday,
we talked about a Spokane, Washington, black guy, you know, targeted, wrongfully targeted,
handcuffed, arrested. Now he's suing. We talked about the case out of Alabama. And in fact, you know, we were talking about another story. We were talking about this one.
Like, here's a perfect example.
Judge in Morgan County, Alabama, ruled that former Decatur police officer Matt Marquette
could not claim self-defense in the killing of Steve Perkins, an armed black man shot and killed in his
own front yard in September.
It clears the way for Marquette to stay in trial for murder in June.
The shooting took place during a late-night attempt to repossess Perkins' truck.
Marquette and other officers showed up with a tow truck, but under Alabama law, police
aren't allowed to assist in repossessions without a court order.
And there wasn't one.
Instead of announcing themselves, the officers hid in the yard.
When Perkins came outside with a gun, Marquette yelled, hey, and fired 18 rounds in under two seconds.
Judge Charles Elliott called Marquette a trespasser and said no reasonable officer would have opened fire under those circumstances.
Now, he's going to get prosecuted under state law.
Donald Trump is saying,
DOJ, we ain't
pursuing nothing. We're not going to pursue
any charges against this
officer. If anything that
involves on the federal level,
Donald Trump saying, hey,
y'all good. Don't even worry
about it.
You know, Martin, I mean,
the sad, the really sad part about this really is, you know, there's
been a lot of work done all over this country with the community, police officers, police
departments working hard to improve the relationship between the police
and the community.
And now we have a lawless president who certainly doesn't give a damn about that relationship.
He doesn't have a good relationship with the truth.
He doesn't really care.
I think he's demonstrated we're listening to it every day.
He doesn't give a damn about what happens to black and brown people in this country.
And now he wants to use the tool of law enforcement for his benefit to really push and support his racist policies.
He can only do that with the cooperation of those police executives.
And I'll say it again. I am hoping that they would step up
because you know what? What do you want to be known for? What do you want your legacy to be?
How do you want the good police officers in your agency when they leave the station every day and go out in that community?
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Environment that you want to create for them to have to face and deal with.
And so Donald Trump, look, he could care less about law enforcement. He could care less about black and brown communities.
He's going to pull out the isms, racism, sexism every time he gets in trouble. And he doesn't
care who loses their life or is seriously injured in the process because it's all about Donald Trump protecting Donald Trump.
Yep. It's as simple as that. And it's sad.
And I just I mean, we're going to be talking to defense attorneys and we just got to understand these people.
He doesn't care. He does not care about victims. He does not care about a regular
ordinary citizen. And this also, this is also why Congresswoman, I've called out these black maggots.
I've called out Pastor Darrell Scott. I've called out Sharice Lane. I've called out David Harris
Jr. and Brandon Tatum and the Cartier family, Joseph Pignon, all of these black
conservatives.
I'm like, when y'all are sitting there cheesing, Michaela Montgomery, all of y'all, Angela
Stanton King, are y'all talking about what's anti-black?
No, they're not, because they just happen to be some Negroes sitting
in a room. And I've said it. They used to be real. I still know. They still exist. But
they used to be real black conservatives. Senator Ed Brook, who stood up and fought
members of his own party to break the filibuster for the Fair Housing Act. There are numerous other black Republicans, but they are quiet.
And these are absolutely anti-black executive orders that this man is initiating.
And, you know, Roland, again, regardless of what table you sit at or what party you were in. Because I remember good, decent black conservatives as well.
But how could you ever sit in a space or in a room or at a table and forget the people
who suffered, bled, and died for black people to have a better life in this country. How could you ever forget the images
of my former friend and colleague,
John Lewis on the Edmund Pettus Bridge
who had his skull cracked
because he was trying to help every person
to be able to vote.
And so...
Right, and that was police brutality.
See, nearly every riot in the 60s.
If you actually you'll go back to the 60s, the 50s, the 40s, the 30s, the 20s, 1919.
Nearly every race riot was instigated. It was it was a police action that that was the case.
The Kerner Commission report talks about that. I mean, you could just understand the case. The Kerner Commission report talks about
that. I mean, you can just
understand the history, this relationship.
And to your point,
you've had folks who've made the effort, community
policing. I think about Lee Brown.
I think about others who understood
how we must relate to the community.
And I just
gotta, I just, listen.
Donald Trump ain't gonna respect, this actually happened.
The first time he was there,
so when they have these meetings, so the president,
whoever's the president, typically meets with television
anchors and reporters. So I got invited to three of them
under Trump, I got invited to three of them under Trump.
I got to two.
And Chicago came up.
And he was complaining that, well, when Ron visited me,
Ron was talking about education, economics.
He was like, Ron, that's not the answer to the crime.
And I was like, actually, it is.
I've talked to numerous police chiefs who will tell you that where there are high education and high income areas, it's the lowest crime in the city.
They all go together.
So he's talking and he says that when they were going to the airport, he said he came across this really tough cop.
He said, you can tell he means business. And he came to me and said, Mr. Trump,
we can solve this crime problem in Chicago
in three or four days.
And Trump was like, this guy, you can tell,
he was just a really tough guy.
So, you know, we passed his name on to Rahm
to be interviewed for the police commissioner.
So he's talking about it.
So I sit there and I go, well, what's your plan? This is
no lie. This is what he said. He went,
tough. I said, I'm sorry.
Tough is a word. What is
your plan? No lie. He said, tough.
I sat there. I was taking notes. I put my pen in my clothes.
I said, y'all can take it from here. That's literally his tough, tough. This whole executive
order is tough. We're going to be tough on crime. The hell they make is tough. It's tough.
It's all macho.
It's all John Wayne.
It's all just tough.
That's all it is.
It's tough talk.
And he does not care about the outcomes of the people.
Final comment.
And Roland, we learned decades ago,
as you mentioned earlier,
that every person who's interested in this area
knows that if you want to reduce crime, then you have to address some of the social ills
that cause decay in communities in the first place. Quality education, housing, dealing with
mental health issues, making sure that regardless of what community or whatever zip code, that you're
able to receive the best education dealing with unemployment issues.
That's the way you reduce crime.
I'm not even sure what the president is talking about in terms of or anybody that says, oh,
the way to do it, the answer to it is toughness.
I mean, how has that worked for us?
And so we need a police department that can not only work with the community to reduce
violent crime, but also a police department that has the compassion to treat every person
with dignity and respect.
By building that relationship, that is how you reduce crime.
And so the president can come up with every crazy, yet another crazy, chaotic, unhinged
executive order.
But I am prayerful that law enforcement executives will say,
we're not tying ourselves to Donald Trump because where he goes, chaos goes.
Indeed, indeed.
Congressman Val Demings, we certainly appreciate you joining us.
Thanks a lot.
Good to see you.
Take care.
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Joe, I'm going to start with you.
Anti-black, there's no other way.
This is targeting defense attorneys, civil rights lawyers.
This is saying, hey, cops, y'all got free reign to bust heads, maim and kill people
because we ain't going to do nothing to you on a federal level.
Yeah, it's not protecting and serving. It's menacing and unleashing. That word startled me
just like it did Congresswoman Demings. It is just crazy what it is that's going on right now. You talked about
this case going on in Alabama. And fortunately, that case is proceeding because the judge
understands that what actually went on is a question of fact that the jury actually needs
to decide. That's what's supposed to happen. But to your point, on the federal side, those cases will not be being brought at all. If he has his way, federal law won't support it, even though federal law and discrimination law is written with those that were discriminated against in mind.
And police will be able to do what they want to do.
They will be absolutely unhinged.
You know, consent decrees are going.
All of the things that oversaw, from the federal government standpoint, things that state governments weren't doing, that state agencies weren't doing, that local agencies weren't doing, that county agencies weren't doing.
This is not coming through some window and somebody pulling something out of the sky.
You know, we're not gaslighting people when we say that black people are more likely to be killed by police than other people are.
They're more likely to be quite a time if the federal
government stops being what it needs to be and actually effectively turns discrimination
law on its head, making assumptions and presumptions about white people, and particularly white
males, being discriminated against, and therefore, among other things, keeps certain things from
being prosecuted, keeps charges from being brought, and keeps police officers from being
sued and police departments from being investigated.
And this is absolutely anti-black because we're the ones that are affected the most
by police officers doing the wrong thing.
So by definition, it can only be anti-black.
Oh, that's exactly what it is.
And you see right here, Mustafa, the name of the executive order,
strengthening and unleashing America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and protect innocent citizens.
Well, how about protect the citizens for law enforcement?
Yeah, that's what it should have been focused on, but we know who we're dealing with, right?
We also know once again, the disinformation and misinformation. So instead of them saying,
you know what, we know that in 2024, that violent crimes were down and property crimes were down.
And yes, that doesn't mean that there is no crime, but there were programs that were in place that were actually helpful.
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time.
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Hoping to create a safer atmosphere, if we can say it that way. You had all these different
types. You had the community violence intervention funding that was out there for the last
administration. And you had the Justice Department was out there giving grants for mental health and
addiction and victim support, all these different types of sets of resources. So I'm one of those
folks, when I see these executive orders, you know, people only pay attention to the right hand and not the left hand, right? So they put
this stuff out there for folks who really understand executive orders. They really tell
federal workers and agencies how they can carry out existing laws. They don't make new laws.
So I'm wondering, where in the hell is the folks on Capitol Hill? Why aren't you raising your
voices? Because you're the ones who create, you know, you create the legislation and the laws
that are out there. And then we've also got to make sure the courts are doing the right thing.
So some folks have got to put some checks and balances in place on this individual. But the
other side of it is that people are not paying enough attention to all these resources that are
being stripped away that have actually helped us to be able to lower crime. So, yes, we understand the intentionality, both in the language that's inside of these executive orders
and even in the titles of what they're trying to project.
But we also can't move into this hopelessness of saying, well, he can just do whatever he wants to do,
because, no, that's not the case.
Now, of course, people got to stand up and push back.
And we've seen the difficulty that many have had to be able to do that. But we've also got to bring forward,
and this show has been great at highlighting the stories and individuals who are actually
making real change happen on the ground so that there is another narrative that's out there.
Because he frames it as that is a chaotic situation. When you go out your house,
you know, people are just popping off.
You know, they're running up, busting people in the head.
And I'm not going to say that that doesn't happen in a small percentage in certain places,
but that's not the reality that's out there.
So many of us say, you know, we want to make sure that we have community policing.
We want to make sure that cops are doing the right thing.
We understand that when you pick up the phone, you want to have somebody on the other end who's going to come and help. But we also want to make
sure that a part of that equation is all these other programs that are so critically important
in helping to create healthy and safe communities. And if we don't bring that narrative forward,
they certainly aren't. Larry? So if you look, if you read that executive order, anyone who's Black,
they're just going to chill down your spine.
And the other thing, Roland, we talk a lot about – you talk a lot about today's 100 days in, and when you talk about executive orders, this is out of the authoritarian playbook, this is not new. Consistently putting out these executive orders, many of them rooted in anti-Blackness, focused on harming and out-harming the Black community, dismealing civil rights, you know, civil rights initiatives, acts, et cetera, that have tried to level the racial playing field, so to speak.
It is—it's being done on purpose. I want to go back to this comment about the
consent decree that was in the document. I was in Baltimore when Freddie Gray died as a result
of police negligence and what occurred after that, which was obviously one of many instances
throughout U.S. history. And because of police negligence, that Black folks ended up losing their lives. So the idea that you could revise and review it, even though Baltimore has seen a
dramatic drop in violent crime over the last couple of years due to the mayor's initiatives,
but all Mayor Scott's initiatives, but also in addition to that, the consent degree that
continues to help hold law enforcement accountable. Removing that might dramatically
increase crime rates in Baltimore and other cities throughout the United States. We highlighted
that violent crime is down. This is not about addressing issues in underserved communities
that have been around because of not proper investment.
This is about maintaining a race-based caste system in the United States.
And folks have to be paid very close attention because, once again,
we know that every couple of months or few weeks, et cetera,
there is these cases where someone in the Black community is harmed by law enforcement.
So I would caution those who are watching to be very aware
because if this executive, you know, we have this executive order
and then whatever policies they choose to push through Congress,
if anyone in the black community is harmed,
there is going to be some serious issues in this community and in this country.
Yeah, it's just utterly insane.
We're going to go to a break.
We'll come back.
We're going to hear from some defense attorneys about this.
Trust me, they can hang it up.
There ain't no reason for them to even call DOJ
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There's some other little youth groups you can apply to.
All right, y'all.
We're talking about, again, this Trump executive order unleashing America's law enforcement
to pursue criminals and protect innocent citizens.
In just a moment, we're going to be talking to Harry Daniels or
Darrell Washington both of course defense attorneys very prominent
involved in a lot of these cases we reached out to Ben Crump he's actually
in Africa he's in Ghana and so and I'm telling y'all I'm telling y'all don't
even this executive order it's about black people.
It's about all of these cases of black people being shot and killed, brutalized, beaten, harmed by cops.
And Donald Trump is saying, yo, I'm good.
He's saying, I got the back of all of these cops.
I'm going to do whatever in the world they want to do.
And he is going to just give them massive amounts of immunity.
It's as simple as that. That's what's going on right here.
And he said it. And again, see, this whole deal, oh, morale is back.
I'm glad that was one of the stupid comments you heard Bill Maher say.
Oh, I'm glad to see the morale of cops is back.
I'm like, man, y'all serious?
Come on.
Police hate accountability.
They hate it.
They hate being held accountable.
And now they have somebody who is going to let them do whatever it is they want to
go to. All right, folks, we have Harry Daniels ready.
All right.
All right, let's go
live to Harry Daniels.
Harry, can you hear me?
I can hear you, Roland.
How you doing?
Darrell Washington, can you hear me?
I can hear you, Roland.
All right, now we see there's about to be a party.
We got four alphas on here.
What's that little youth group you and Harry?
It don't matter.
Y'all can have that eight versus 80.
You know what it is.
Let's talk about it.
Oh, you know if it's one of us, it's eight of y'all.
It's unfair for y'all.
So, but, you know, but it's just a lot of black and old gold excellence right here.
Let's get right to it.
This executive order, Darrell, is absolutely anti-black. And what Donald Trump is saying, if any family hires y'all for one of these cases involving police abuse,
don't even call the Department of Justice because we're not going to be on the side of any of those families.
We're going to be on the side of cops.
Hey, Roland, this is something that, man, we are not surprised by at all.
You know, you talked about this prior to the election, and this is something that we knew was going to happen. And I will tell you,
since this election, Roland, we have seen the change, not only with some of the noise that
Trump is talking right now, but with some of these rulings that we're getting from the court.
You can clearly see that things have changed and things are going to get bad. Now, you know,
we talk about this, Roland, but I just really don't believe people understand how serious this is. I mean,
because basically what has happened now, basically police officers have gotten a free pass to use
deadly force, and that's scary. Harry? Yeah, I agree with Daryl. You know, a lot of these things is happening. You know, you see these ramped up police executions and dealing with deporting people and not just that, dealing with officers feel like they are immune, one of the biggest things that I saw that I'm trying to figure out how he's going to enforce an order locally on local municipalities and local governments in order to pay about liable officers. He used the word unjustly prosecuted or whatever the case may be for misconduct or an official duty.
Well, if you go through the justice system and a jury finds you liable, then you're not unjustly prosecuted.
You're justly prosecuted for your acts. putting the responsibility on these local governments or these municipalities to pay
these jury verdicts or settlements.
One place that we see this is in Colorado, but the Colorado legislation did it for it
so people who are victims of police misconduct have some type of redress or recourse on some type of monetary justice
where a city or municipality, county government has to pay the verdict with the exception
of punitive damages.
But here in this case, I believe it's being weaponized in a way to give law enforcement
a fruit pass, not just from criminal prosecution from the Department of Justice, but also civil prosecution as well.
I mean, he's saying right here, Darrell,
that I am directing the attorney general
to create a mechanism for legal resources
to go to cops, go to my iPad.
Says it right here, to provide legal resources
and indemnification to law enforcement officers
who unjustly incur expenses and liabilities
for actions taken during the performance of their official duties to enforce the law.
This mechanism shall include the use of private sector pro bono assistance for such law enforcement officers.
The shakedown that he did of all those major law firms, he's going to go to them,
hey, y'all got to defend these cops.
Hey, Roland, let me tell you, first of all, when you read what Trump is really saying,
it makes no sense whatsoever. Because first of all, most police officers are not incurring
any expenses. Most of them are- I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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and the Ad Council. I'm being represented by the municipalities, so I really don't know what he's
talking about from that end. But one of the things that's going to be really dangerous is now
he's calling on a lot of these private firms that are going to come in and assist these police
officers. That's the problem that we're going to be faced with right now. But, you know, we look at
what Trump is putting into law right now, Roland. It goes a little further. The state of Texas now,
what they're saying is police officers are not going to be criminally liable for acts that
happen while they're in the course of their duty. That's very dangerous, because what that is saying is that we have said all along that
when Amber Guy got killed, Botham John, she was on duty.
When Roy Oliver killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards, he was on duty.
But if you read what Trump and what these state governors are now saying is, is that
if somebody is killed while the officers are on duty,
there's not going to be any criminal liability. And that's the thing that is very scary.
Yeah, you know, and we live in a perfect world, and rifle use of force was there. But unfortunately,
we don't live in a perfect world. And the people that's on the other end of these
unlawful shooting killers and brutality is people of color.
So when you hear these type of things and you're given these hall passes to basically,
like Daryl said, you know, if you kill somebody on duty, then there's no redress.
There's no criminal prosecution to go for.
That in bold is already in bold in officer.
You know, I worked in law enforcement for a short period of time,
and one thing I don't recall doing to have a psychological test,
thank God that I wasn't one who's had issues, but I saw officers who had major issues.
So if you give them the ability to evade some type of criminal prosecution,
you've given them a key to all doors of injustice.
The bottom line is this, and Daryl hit the nail on the head, this thing has been eroded for years.
You know, when I say it's eroded, the protections, the federal government.
You got to think about it.
In the 60s, the Department of Justice, the government was the one who would come in to ensure rights are
protected. At this day and time, you got civil rights attorneys who work for the Department of
Justice. And I know some of them. I probably know they have no idea what to do here, what to say.
And they're being utilized in a manner that's inconsistent with what oath they have taken.
And it's a very sad day.
No, and Harry, just to echo something that you're
saying right now, when you look at some of the other things that Trump is doing, we have looked
at consent decrees that the Department of Justice have worked on so very hard to try to get a lot of
these police departments in line to make sure that they're doing certain things that are not
going to put people in harm.
And what Trump is now saying is all these consent decrees that are now in existence,
basically, they're no longer going to be any good.
So, again, this guy is coming along, and he's basically empowering police officers,
Roland.
And it's very scary.
I mean, I'll be honest with you, because all these police officers have
to do now is be on a dark road one evening and say that this individual was trying to harm me,
and I had to use deadly force. And there's nothing that you can do about it. And I think
people ought to be afraid. We've said this years ago, that people should have major concerns.
But what's going on right now now today, people should be worried.
People should be concerned.
Yeah, they absolutely should.
I think one of the reasons why we wanted to get this much attention, because we've covered a lot of these stories.
We've covered these cases. And a lot of times when local DAs did not do their job, lawyers like yourself will be able to say, hey, we're going to call on the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division to investigate this, to pursue hate crimes indictments.
Donald Trump and Pam Bondi is saying, hey, y'all can lose our number.
We ain't talking to none of y'all.
Yeah, but you know,
you know, you know, you know, Roland,
the wind may blow,
but the tree gonna still stand.
Midterm elections are coming and another election is coming.
So I hope the people realize
and see what's happening.
All the things that's happening
across the nation,
the federal employees
who voted for Trump
find themselves in the unemployment line, if there's any unemployment
line remaining. And at the same time, we have to keep in mind that everything Donald Trump
said he was going to do, he did it. He did it.
Absolutely. And, Harry, one of the things—I know you and I talk about this all the time,
and Roland, we know that things are bad right now, but you have attorneys like myself, Harry Daniels,
you know, Ben Crump, attorneys who are fighting these cases.
But what I want to say to the listening audience, Roland, and this is something that we have
to talk about every single time we discuss these issues.
It is going to be very imperative now that when we have the opportunity to sit on juries,
black people, to serve on juries, that we're going to have to do every single thing to
make sure that we're not eliminated, because we will need to make sure that these juries
are diverse.
Because right now, rolling in some of these little small cities, these cases that you
really don't hear much about, these people, black people, are not given a chance.
And we have to really change that narrative.
So we know right now Trump is against us.
We know that the Department of Justice is against us.
So it is very imperative on us to stick together and try to figure out a way to make change to this judicial system, because we are going to need it.
Yeah, absolutely going to need it. Yeah, absolutely going to need it.
Hey, Roland, think about this.
A felon represents the Department of Justice.
He's over the Department of Justice.
That's scary.
That's what we're in right now.
Well.
A felon conviction.
Run the Department of Justice.
Well, you have that.
That's the oxymoron I've ever heard of.
And then you got Attorney General who spends more time on Fox News than she does at the Department of Justice. Well, you have that. That's the most I've ever heard. And then you got Attorney General who spends more time on
Fox News than she does at the Department
of Justice. You know,
you know, yeah, let me just, exactly.
So,
but, Roland, we
need to pay attention to this. We
posted, I know Harry talks about it all the
time. We're going to talk about it in Chicago at the
National Bar Convention. But,
Roland, people need to pay attention to what's going on.
I know there are a lot of other issues that are going on in the communities, but what you are talking about today is so very important.
Because if they continue to pass these laws—I know they have one similar in Louisiana right now.
Texas is about to pass a new law as well. If this continues, Roland, at the pace that it's going on right now, as hard as we're working,
there will be no need for civil rights attorneys when it comes to police brutality,
because our hands are going to be tied.
We have fought for justice for so very long to only see Donald Trump come in
and take all the progress that we've tried to make, and he's putting us back years,
years back. Indeed, indeed. All right. Gentlemen, Darrell Washington,
Harry Daniels, I certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right. Thank you.
Folks, you know, when you start looking at, you know, so here we are 100 days,
and I don't give a damn about the 100 days because, hell, the 99th day ain't no different from the 101st day.
This stuff harkens back to FDR talking about what he was going to do in the first 100 days.
So the media runs with this constantly in terms of this 100 days.
What has the president done?
The fact of the matter is what we are seeing here is a consistent attack on Black people.
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It's an attack on black people.
It's an attack on human rights.
It's an attack on regular, ordinary people.
You know, Adam Sir of The Atlantic, when he talked about cruelty is the point, that's
exactly what it is.
It is about cruelty.
It is how they treat people.
And what you're seeing—and here's what's crazy, Mustafa.
When you think back, look at all of these other countries that have beat back fascism.
You just saw the Canadians pick the
head of the Liberal Party
versus the Conservatives.
We've seen this in France. We've seen it in Germany.
On and on and on.
There's only one country that chose fascism.
America.
Mustafa?
Yeah, well, you know, that is true. And the question becomes, do you learn from your scars?
Do you try and hide your scars?
And do you pretend like your scars isn't there?
And that's been something that America has never wanted to deal with.
And because it has never wanted to deal with the sins of the past and the present, it continues
to create these opportunities for those who fit the narrative to take office and to lead.
So that's what we find in this particular moment.
And then turning over power.
You know, my grandmother always says—and folks have heard me say this before—when
you know better, do better, I continue to wonder when America is actually going to do better consistently, right? So, you know, you have a
President Obama, and then you find the pushback that happens with that. Then you'll take another
step forward, and then you'll have somebody comes in that pushes you three steps back.
You know, America has to finally make a decision about, does it want to be a 21st century America
or does it want to be a 19th century America?
Because in the policies that have been put forward and the sets of actions around erasure
and everything else looks a lot like, you know, the 1860s and 1870s.
People often want, you know, talk about, you know, the things that happened during Jim
Crowism.
Well, yes, and,
because that's what we're seeing play out right before our eyes now.
So, as the brother just said just a second ago,
we've got the midterms coming up
and then you've got the elections in 2028,
but there's a lot of damage and a lot of bad
that can happen before those particular moments happen.
And that's why we've got to come together as
community and protect and uplift each other. Absolutely. Joe?
Yeah, I mean, this is, everything's harder now. You know, the civil rights fight is never easy
to begin with, but it becomes more difficult. And even I see in juries, in potential juries,
less sensitivity. I see juries potentially sometimes being a little bit more sympathetic
or more indifferent when there is a Trump-like boss or a sexual harasser or those types of
things. Juries trying to be less sensitive when your client
didn't lose their job, but they were on leave for a year to a year and a half.
So it tries to change a lot of things in terms of how we approach cases. And we do have to read the
room in terms of what it is that we're doing. But that being said, the fight is still the fight,
and it wasn't taken on because it's easy. And even if it gets harder, it's still worthwhile. I'm reminded of my aunt,
Josie Johnson, who is a civil rights leader who did things with Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey
in the 50s and all of these other things. She always will tell us, well, darling, you know,
just stay optimistic, et cetera, because they saw people lynched. They saw things happen. And so they would never give up their optimism despite the difficulty.
So what we and in fact, because of the difficulty. So we have to stay in the game. Whatever's
happening, it is serious. These brothers have just talked about it are underscoring how difficult
what we're doing is now and how much harder it's getting because
of what Donald Trump is doing. And all that is true. And yet, as he said, the wind blows,
but the tree's still going to stand. So we've got to stay in there, but we've got to be aware.
Don't walk in the street and get hit by a car. Listen, you're walking in the street and the car
is going five miles an hour. You're going to get hit if you're not cognizant of it. The car could
be going faster, but if you know it's coming, you have a chance to get out of the way. So let's do what it is that
we have to do and stay optimistic. Well, I just want people to understand that what's going on
here is real. It's real and it cannot be overlooked. Last thing here, folks, the Alabama Bar Association has honored longtime civil rights
attorney Fred Gray with a statue outside of their bar association. This is about five days ago.
This is what the statue looks like here. Alabama State posted this particular, these photos here.
This is the unveiling of the statue. You see Fred Gray there on the far right with his wife as the unveiling of this statue takes place.
Of course, Fred Gray, legendary attorney.
He, of course, Dr. King's attorney, Rosa Parks, and so many others.
This is a man truly fighting for freedom.
You remember in Montgomery, they named a street after him. They took the name down of a Confederate person,
and the state of Alabama was a little pissed off,
and they fined the city, but folks still paid that particular fine.
So that street's named after him.
But this here, this statue, so next time I go to Montgomery,
I'll be sure to get a photo of that.
I'm always about documenting, again, our statues. We've been inundated with Confederate statues all across
this country. So it's great to be able to see things along those lines. So congratulations to
Attorney Fred Gray. That's it for us. Joe, Larry, Mustafa, I appreciate y'all being on today's show.
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