#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump May Rename Carrier Honoring Black WWII Hero. Karmelo Anthony New Trial Fight. Karen Bass

Episode Date: August 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:04:01 Such snowflakes. It's time to bring the funk. I'm Rolla Mark and Unfiltered. The Blackslide Network. Let's go. It's the second day of Carmela Anthony's motion hearing for a new trial. Another attorney was part of Carmelo's defense team during the trial has testified. Toby Shook told Judge Michael Chitty that he and lead defense attorney Mike Howard decided to keep the scope of the case limited to what happened in the tent after learning about the stalking allegations. Shook also admitted that the defense team agreed the school trainer would testify only about what happened under the tent.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They would keep out any mentions of the Metcalf Brothers character traits and racist history. Prosecutor Bill Worski was called as a witness. Defense attorney Russell objected to Werski's testimony arguing that he could be both, he couldn't be both an advocate and a witness. However, Judge Chitty allowed Wersky to take the stand. As he said in his opening statement, the Worski said that security concerns for the defendant and witnesses are why they tried to keep the case files from public view. The bulk of Worski's testimony centered around the gentleman's.
Starting point is 00:05:56 agreement over the character trait evidence being left out of the trial. No word of when the judge would make his decision whether Carmelo deserves a new trial. Now, when we mentioned that whole issue about the stalking, prosecutors allege that the ex-girlfriend of Carmelo Anthony said he had been stalking her. My panel joining me right now. Candace Kelly, legal analyst host Take Away with Candace Kelly from South Orange, New Jersey, Matt Manning, Civil Rights Attorney from Corpus Christi, Michael M. Hemp, host African History network show out of Detroit.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Candace, I want to start with you. Just your assessment so far of this effort by this new defense team of Carmelo Anthony trying to convince a judge that Carmelo deserves a new trial. Well, listen, this is one of the things that goes back to that agreement that you were talking to. The agreement which both sides agreed, you know, with a handshake, a gentleman's agreement, as they call it, that this character witness, this character information, would be left out. Now, what happened during the trial was that Carmelo Anthony was going
Starting point is 00:06:59 to take the stand, but prosecutors said, wait a minute, you can't take the stand, because once you take the stand, we're going to ask you about your character. So they're saying we didn't go over the scope of whether or not he would take the stand and what we would ask and what we may not be able to ask. So he did not take the stand. Now, that's very important because we would have heard his side. We would have heard exactly what happened. So the question really becomes, and the judge has to decide by Monday whether or not there will be a new trial. The question really becomes,
Starting point is 00:07:29 if that trial is granted, all that information, will we hear it in terms of character evidence? The answer is probably yes. They want to get that in, but they're going to get it in on both sides. And as we knew, the fact that they agree
Starting point is 00:07:43 that no character evidence would be brought in, they both have things that are in their background. But we're going to be able to hear that if they get a new trial. If they don't get a new trial, he will appeal it all the way probably up to the Supreme Court if he wants to, but a new trial means new evidence,
Starting point is 00:07:58 new trial means character evidence, and probably Carmelo Anthony taking the stand. That point right there, Matt, is important. Obviously, the prosecutors could have brought in some information regarding Camilla Anthony, but the other issue is that the racist stuff regarding the Metcalf brothers also would come in. And so, listen, a jury has to decide whether that stuff actually matters.
Starting point is 00:08:25 It does. And, you know, to kind of break things down for people really quickly. So character evidence is important. I have a murder case right now at a hearing yesterday involving character evidence where the alleged victim was violent in the past. So I was asking the judge to give me records because I made this exact argument. A jury has to know the person who was involved in this and whether they had a character for peacefulness or for violence, right? So a jury needs to know that. Now, I will say what I think is going to be a little problematic and maybe difficult is if they had a gentleman's agreement, is really going to be a question for the judge of weighing trial strategy and basically trial by consent, meaning did y'all consent to not bringing these character issues? And if your attorney consented that, I mean, the judge can still make the decision on one of the eight grounds under our Texas Code of Criminal Procedure that allows for new trials. But, you know, he might determine, look, you decided not to put on this evidence. It's not that you didn't have the evidence. You elected not to put it forward. And that may be a thorny issue. for the judge to kind of work through on whether he's determined that Mr. Anthony's ultimately was given a fair trial if his lawyers chose volitionally not to put that on. However, that's
Starting point is 00:09:36 what juries realistically want these days, and that's what they should always be provided. They need to know the motivations behind what people do. They need to know other things that are admissible under the rules of evidence, because if not, you can't make a true determination as to whether Mr. Anthony was in fear for his safety when he used the knife. I mean, there are a lot of things And the way our law works in the state of Texas with self-defense is you have to have a reasonable belief that you're facing force. Well, two issues with that are, one, he would have to have known, presumably, the character for violence that the Medcaf boys had. However, if that comes in, then it puts into greater context. If there's any information from witnesses that say he was menacing him, threatening him, saying crazy things to him, well, then if a jury hears that in the past they've been violent, that validates that, and that makes his fear all the more.
Starting point is 00:10:25 reasonable. So that's kind of how that character evidence would be used here and exactly why I don't understand why his defense attorney didn't put it in, but I suspect they were probably concerned about the racial overtones and they were trying to try as clean a case and not getting into extraneous things. But we'll
Starting point is 00:10:41 see what the judge determines in terms of whether Mr. Anthony got a fair trial by not having that evidence put into the trial. But the thing here is for Matt and Candace, both of your lawyers. I mean, bottom line is this here. If you're a defense attorney, your job is to represent your client to the best that you can.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And we've had the prosecutor, we've had the character report show that Austin Medcaf kicked out of a previous track meet, threatened other people, kicked out of a football game, discipline issues at the school as well. That is a different narrative than one that was, created that, oh, Austin Midcalf, you know, was just a regular ordinary, you know, athlete who was just unfortunately stabbed in the chest by Carmelo Anthony. We're talking about an
Starting point is 00:11:37 individual with serious signs of aggression at school, off-site, football track meets. How, again, Candace, how I get the gentleman's agreement, but your job is to save your client. And that is why it's really important that when and if Carmelo Anthony takes a stand, we find out if at that time he knew about Metcalf's background. That's very important. We know that now because of social media, because we have all the documents that we can look up. At that time, and that's why we were able to hear from him specifically,
Starting point is 00:12:17 if that was a problem that made him feel like his life was in danger. But the prosecutors, they have to actually make that case. And so that's why it's going to be very, very important. And you're right, we should know this information, but because they agreed upon it and did not have that information available, again, both sides have negative information. These are basically young kids. They have records. It makes sense. And like Matt said, you try to keep that information out so it doesn't displace the core argument of what you're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And race, as we know, and racism always will do that. or if you're looking at Kamala Anthony and stalking, is that fair to determine whether or not at the time under that tent? He feared for his life enough to fear that and act in a way that he defended himself in the way that he did. So this agreement is important, which is why we're hearing the details about it, and it's going to look totally new when he goes through the appeals process or he's granted a new trial. Matt, explain the people how difficult it is in Texas.
Starting point is 00:13:25 to get a new trial? It's difficult. It is extremely difficult because judges usually want to not upset the decision of the jury, right? We give great credence to what a jury does. Now, certainly, we have it on the books where a judge can set it aside if the verdict is contrary to the law and the evidence. There are a number of other things, you know, if jurors are improperly contacted, I believe, and some other issues regarding misconduct on the part of jury. or misconduct, I guess, also on the part of the prosecutor, particularly if you have Brady or Michael Morton, which is our state defense law issues where something comes out after the fact that a seminal piece of evidence was not given to the defense. I mean, there has to be that safeguard to ensure that people get a fair trial. But I think what's going to be difficult about this
Starting point is 00:14:17 determination for the judge is this is going to fall into, is this permissible trial strategy or did his team really, were they just completely ineffective and did not defend him? I will tell you, I am, I joked yesterday, I'm a scattershot defense lawyer. I fight every single thing. And I was yelling at a prosecutor yesterday saying, you're the one that brings the indictment. My client has no duty to do a single thing. You have to prove the indictment. But at the end of the day, I have to make strategic decisions on what evidence comes in and what
Starting point is 00:14:46 doesn't. And I think that's going to really be the crux of the question. Did Mr. Howard have the authority, the volition, to choose? not to go on that character evidence because there are times where you wouldn't use character evidence because you're concerned that a jury is going to dislike your client if you're running at a victim or alleged victim and running at their character if the circumstances are such that their character is really extraneous to the issue right in front of you. Looking at that from a legal strategic position, I can see the judge probably struggling
Starting point is 00:15:18 with that decision in the gentleman's agreement. I think that's going to be the crux of it. But the other thing that people need to know, and then I'll turn it over, is Rule 403 of our rules of evidence, and I think the federal rules of evidence as well, always gives the judge a balancing. So the judge always has to decide whether this evidence is going to be more probative, meaning proving something, than it is prejudicial, obviously prejudicial to the jury's determination. And that's going to be crucially important because what Candace alluded to is if Mr. Anthony he didn't know any of this stuff about Metcalf's background beforehand, then I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:54 that it can necessarily be extrapolated from that, that he had a reasonable belief. He was in fear of his safety because of those things in his background. And that's something that either Judge Roach or the next judge would consider in terms of whether they let that in or not, and the trial court is the gatekeeper on that evidence. So even if they had offered it, it's not a guarantee it would have come in. But if it had come in, it most certainly would have had a measurable effect on the jury. The thing that still bothers me, Michael, is that, I mean, this defense team, by God, he gets convicted by the jury on the same day he sentenced. It was as if they put up no aggressive defense even in the sentencing.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I surely thought we were going to have two or three days of witnesses testifying to Carmilla Anthony. as a student, as a church member, whatever, it was like, well, okay, one witness, there you go, his mama, that's it. Back to the jury. They were like, hour or two later, boom, 35 years. Yeah, it felt like there was not a fight on his side, fighting for him even after the conviction. So two quick things here, Roland. And number one, yesterday, the Star Telegram had an excellent article. And we found out, as you talked about the top of this segment, new allegations about racism against both Hunter and Austin Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And the Star Telegram talks about how in the hearing yesterday, 53 different incidents of violence and racism by the Mepkaff brothers were introduced in the motion. So this totally is this is totally different than how the two were portrayed, the two brothers were portrayed during the trial. And it was portrayed as Carmela was the big bad enemy, the big bad evil one. Okay. And then to Matt's point, the Greo has a piece on this where they talk about that gentleman's agreement, so to speak, and it talked about keeping out character evidence from both, from the two. But it said it was to prevent the racially charged case from becoming even more inflammatory.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Now, I'm not an attorney, but if I was a defense attorney, I'd have to go to bat for my client. And if putting the evidence out there and, you know, letting everything, putting everything in in these 53 incidents of violence or racism by the Metcalf brothers, if that ratches up the racism tone, well, so be it. We got to get my client off. So, you know, we'll see. I think he has a much better team here, and we're finding out a lot just in these past two days, so we'll see how this turns out. I do want Candace and Matt to speak to that. Candace, that also was weird to me, this, oh, well, you know, we don't want this racial stuff to get out of hand. And if I'm an attorney, I don't get, first of all, I don't give a damn.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I'm watching this going. I got a black kid stabbed a white kid in a nearly all-white conservative county. Hell, race is sitting right in front of me. It is. What was also sitting in front of the jury would be Carmelo Anthony's background. And we see that that can go either way. Once they open that door, now you're really into his mind. You're really into...
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Starting point is 00:24:08 And then I think both sides, you know, I'm on the fence, but I think they both made a good decision to say, you know what? Maybe let's leave that both alone for our clients. And let's see if on the facts, this can move on. Now, we know, obviously this did not work out for him. I also wanted to address your question about the jury. You know, this really is interesting because the jury, they decided the,
Starting point is 00:24:33 they made the decisions very quickly. Then they did the sentencing very quickly. And this is because they were so overwhelmed that this was his intent to do what he did and that he was so guilty that they didn't need any more time. And this is why I think these defense, have such an open door to come in and say otherwise. We haven't even talked about that judge that already made the determination that this is exactly how the trial was so that it was a good outcome.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And we know that this is not done. We know that those people who find themselves found guilty, they can appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court, like I said. So for the judge to put some finality on that, that was wrong, unfortunate, and he should be more than recuse from this particular case. But we have all these things going on with all types of new information. He needs a new trial. He needs a new trial to really work this through. He can probably get some place on an appeal, but he needs a trial so that we can find out the why to get inside his head. That's what was missing in this whole trial. Matt? Yeah, I mean, I don't know
Starting point is 00:25:47 specifically what you want me to speak to, but I'll tell you a couple things. Well, no, I was specifically I want to speak to this idea of, hey, let's not do this because we don't want to raise the racial tensions. They were already raised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I understand strategically why you might be cognizant of that. I mean, to be straight up, right, especially all white rural Texas, or that's not really rural, but, you know, all white county, wealthy county in Texas, I can see how a lawyer in a vacuum would be concerned about that. However, to your point, I tried a case in May.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It involved black defendants and a black alleged victim. The N-word was involved, and I ran straight at it. Because the truth of the matter is, juries want to see the more, the sexier evidence. I mean, let's just be honest about it, right? And I don't think you need to be campy about that. I don't think you need to be dishonest or disingenuine. But I don't think you need to run away from something like racial tensions. I think you need to be strategic and use them where they're appropriate.
Starting point is 00:26:49 but I don't think you need to do something like this, especially because from the character evidence standpoint, what Metcalf was saying was racially charged stuff. So it's not just a white kid and a black kid. It's a white kid with a history of saying racially charged things, particularly about black people, right? So if your defense is rooted in the idea that Mr. Anthony was afraid for his safety and that Metcalf was menacing him inside that tent, a jury certainly needs to know that Metcalf holds, you know, racist views. views on black people, and therefore, if there's environmental testimony, because I know Mr. Anthony didn't testify, there's environmental testimony that he was saying hateful things to him or otherwise menacing him, it would be in conformity with his character. So that's precisely why you would offer this evidence, and that's why you would beat that drum fully, and you would hope that
Starting point is 00:27:38 even white people who may not be your, you know, your perfect prospective juror would look at it and say, yeah, I think Anthony was reasonably in fear of his life, because this kid, who's known to have racist views and say hateful things against black people was there menacing him in that tent. I mean, those two things marry with each other, and I would have beaten that drum, you know, as long as the day was long, because that's what you have to do for a jury to really look at the reasonableness of his use of force. So I don't understand why they chose to do that, but it looks like his new team is really running full speed at the ineffective assistance and counsel.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I'm just concerned that the judge is going to say they made a trial, strategic decision not to include this evidence and a lawyer gets a pretty wide latitude on ineffective assistance to counsel and that's going to be the biggest hurdle in my eyes for them to get over. All right. Well, folks, it continues. And so we will continue to cover this as it develops. All right, got to go to a break. We come back.
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Starting point is 00:31:33 And if it doesn't have. go to love, it will go to destruction and that destruction will end up killing us all. Sista Goode policies by people in our state and federal government are making us feel very tired. We are so tired of being scared for our lives. We are tired of being treated as disposable. We all have to promise to fight for our voting rights so we can love our neighbors. We have to vote for love for love. I'm Mark Curry and you're watching the Black Star Network. That's why I got these glasses on because that black star is bright. Folks, former Congressman Karen Baz has finished her first term as mayor of Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:36:09 and she is in a tight re-election battle. The first round saw her come out on top. That, of course, was involved Spencer Pratt and others as well. But now she is facing a fellow council. member in this particular runoff. So the race is November 3rd. And on Wednesday had their first debate. And they talked about homelessness, public safety,
Starting point is 00:36:40 as well as the local economy. And things got a little heated. And so right now, let's talk with Mayor Bass. Mayor, glad to have you here. How you doing? Thank you. I'm doing fine, Roland. It's good to see you.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Good to talk to you. Absolutely. So first or foremost, you had to battle different things. Of course, you have the issue of homelessness. That was something that you and I talked about even when you got elected. And that is a significant issue.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You also had, of course, the devastating fires that took place. You took a ton of blame for that, even in areas that you don't control as mayor of Los Angeles that happened in the county as well. And so what is the case that you're laying out to voters
Starting point is 00:37:24 as to why you deserve a second for your term. Well, absolutely. Well, first of all, Roland, thank you for the opportunity to speak with you and your guests. You know, Los Angeles is a city filled with opportunities. It absolutely is. We have a lot on our calendar in two years. The Olympics will be here.
Starting point is 00:37:46 We just finish the World Cup. And one of the things that you have to do is you have to make sure that the city is safe and affordable. And let me just tell you, Roland, affordability is our number one issue that I have been addressing from day one. I have fast-tracked 42,000 units of housing to be built. We've rezoned our entire city so that we can build half a million more units. And we are beginning to turn things around in our city. You know, when I came into office, the city was really just coming out of COVID. And that was a very tough thing that our city faced just.
Starting point is 00:38:24 as most cities around the country did. We've had some long-standing problems in our city, and I have been addressing them. Now, Roland, you probably remember that the reason I ran was because the homelessness issue here was just so devastating with tens of thousands of Angelinos on the street, and black folk are only 9% of our population, but over 30% of the people on our street. And so tackling that right away is what we did. And we had our first, decline in street homelessness two years in a row. We went up last year after we were facing cuts on the state level and also on the federal level.
Starting point is 00:39:05 But we continue to get our Angelinos housed and off the street. And we have so much more to do. And we've laid a strong foundation to go into the next four years. And I'm looking forward to that. We're building a grassroots campaign like I always do. You know, I am able to bring together people from all around the city and we're doing exactly that. Affordability obviously is being discussed everywhere all across the country,
Starting point is 00:39:32 local, state, national, congressional, U.S. Senate races, I mean, you name it. But what actually can a mayor do on affordability? Right. It's not like you can't actually control food prices. You can't control gas prices. Things on those lines. What can you actually do to address affordability in a city of Los Angeles? Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And let me just tell you that the number one thing that we can do is to address the cost of housing. That's why I led with that and said that we fast track tens of thousands of units. We're also converting vacant office buildings into housing. So housing is the number one way that we can address affordability. Now, at the same time, we also have mechanisms in place, and we have started organizations. I established a mayor's fund to prevent people from being evicted, and protections for tenants over rent hikes. So that's the main role that a mayor can have in terms of affordability, because you're absolutely right. I mean, the uncertainty that has emanated from Washington, D.C., of course, has had massed.
Starting point is 00:40:50 massive impact here as well, impacting our overall economy. But let me just tell you something else. We have our entertainment industry, our bedrock industry. We are the creative capital in the world. And that has been a big focus of mine. Even before taking office as the mayor, it was a focus of mind in the state legislature and in Congress. And so one of the things I have done is we hired a film czar who basically provides
Starting point is 00:41:19 concierge services for anybody that wants to film in LA. And we have dramatically reduced the cost of filming in LA, all in an effort to keep the jobs here. And that has been very important. And we have seen a return of filming, both TV shows and movies, because on the state level, we were able to get one of the largest increases in our tax credits, something that I pioneered when I was speaker of the Assembly, when I was in the state legislature, I did the first film tax credit, and then we also doubled or tripled the tax credit this time. Now, we need to go even further. There's much more we need to do, but those are steps that we have taken concretely.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Obviously, we talk about Hollywood. The paramount guidance, Warner merger is a huge issue. The California Attorney General and other attorneys general are suing in a lot of. lot of people are concerned that if this merger goes through, it is going to devastate the economy there in Hollywood. There are going to be lots of job losses. Have you, the city council, weighed in and express your thoughts on this potential merger? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And let me just tell you, my number one order of business is to make sure that we do not lose those jobs. And so I have not been supportive of the merger. Yesterday, I did meet, though, with representatives our labor partners, as well as I've been talking to industry, to have people make a decision about which direction this is going. So I spoke to the Attorney General yesterday, and I know things are moving forward, that there are going to be some discussions over the next few days. I'll tell you one of the things, as I was mentioning before, that has been so difficult, is the uncertainty out of Washington, D.C., with the White House, but we have uncertainty here over this merger. So I don't want to see any policy or any merger go through
Starting point is 00:43:26 that is going to create massive job loss, but we do need to end the uncertainty now. Campaign funds are obviously a critical issue. And so I saw this story, and I'm just trying to figure out what the hell is the issue. So Fox News and other folks have been talking about it. I said, Karen Bass ripped after viral, video lays out taxpayer-funded match of campaign donations.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Now, since right here, Los Angeles' Super Match Program has been in effect since 1990, and the 61 ratio took effect in 2019. That's 17 years ago. You weren't even in Congress. You weren't even in Congress 17 years ago. No. So I'm trying to, so this is a program that was created in order to fund folks who want to run for office. It's a legal program.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm trying to figure out what's the drama. Well, let me just tell you, the only candidates who do not take advantage of our massive, I mean, of our matching funds are people who are extremely wealthy, who can afford to run a race and do not need the fundraising support. All candidates use the matching funds. And so I imagine, and I wasn't around when this policy was put in place, but I imagine it was put in place to make it a more democratic process, meaning that it shouldn't just, the democratic process shouldn't just be about who has the most money. And so the matching fund program, again, is a program that all candidates choose. Again, taxpayers are not forced to contribute, correct?
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Starting point is 00:46:09 and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. This story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table.
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Starting point is 00:46:38 Listen to pro society on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me? Can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head?
Starting point is 00:47:15 How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen.
Starting point is 00:47:39 If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state? Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just a program that the city, that the city has, that the city has had. for a long time. Taxpayers aren't asked, but this is a program that has been funded by the city
Starting point is 00:49:45 for many, many years. Got it. Okay. As you point out. But, you know, there's a lot of problems, Roland, that have started, that have been longstanding problems in our city that I inherited from past leaders who really didn't act on issues like homelessness, our public safety, because one of the issues that was critical at the time that I ran and continues to be. And, And that is the issue of public safety. So Roland, you know of work that I've done in the community many years ago. I started an office of community safety where we could focus on preventing crime. If crime happens, obviously you need a police department to respond, but preventing crime
Starting point is 00:50:27 from happening, preventing recidivism from happening, working with former young people who were involved in gangs or other problems in the justice system, getting. Getting them involved in positively contributing to our city is something that I have pioneered in the city by having an official office of community safety. Questions from the panel? Let's start with Michael Inhotep. All right, Mayor Cam Bass, thanks for coming on today. So my question is, back in June of 2025, Donald Trump deployed 4,000.
Starting point is 00:51:09 California National Guard troops as well as 700 Marines and that was against the consent of Governor Gavin Newsom and he said he was doing this to protect federal personnel, federal property and ice facilities against protests. So my question is, how were you all able to come together and heal from that, move on from that, put things back to together after the occupation because a lot of people don't focus on the fact that when people are afraid to go outside, they don't shop at stores, including black-owned stores. So that holds black-owned businesses as well. So can you talk about that, some, please?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Sure. And by the way, there's a lot of black immigrants. So a lot of people are impacted by the raids. But one thing that we are fortunate for in our city is that we have a very strong immigrant immigrants rights infrastructure. And that infrastructure and those organizations I have worked with for many, many years. Our city was united 100%.
Starting point is 00:52:19 There wasn't a crack in our city of anybody supporting the federal occupation and intervention in our city. And it was just completely unnecessary because there was nothing happening here that warrant federal intervention. But our county is very large. We have eight.
Starting point is 00:52:38 88 cities in it. And one of the things that I started doing immediately was organizing all of the mayors because the mayors were a lot of cities were impacted, not just the city of Los Angeles. But we stood strong. We stood strong and we resisted. We had organized protests. And I thought the protests were extremely important that we have because we had to make it very clear, not just for our city, but for the nation. Because we knew this was an experience. that was starting here, and it was soon going to go to other cities. And it was important for us to have a united front of rejecting this. Even at one point, I had to go out and personally, in front of the National Guard, tell them to leave. And I did exactly that. And they did leave. But I do have to tell you, though, that these raids continue. The massive occupation is gone, but the raids still continue.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And our communities and our neighborhoods are still. being harassed and people are still being taken away. All right, thank you. Candace. Mayor, you had mentioned, first of all, it's good to see you. You had mentioned that over 42,000 housing units are being fast-tracked. What is slow and then what is the fast track that you are speaking of? How fast would that be?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Well, I don't know that if in our city's history we've ever been able to rezone the entire city making room for half a million units. But when I say 42,000 units, I mean they're being fast-tracked through the planning and the permitting process, because within my first two weeks of being in office, I signed an executive directive that essentially cut the red tape, reduce the time that permits, you know, through the permitting process. That is what has fast-tracked and expedited the permitting process. Okay, thank you. Matt? And also out of those 42,000 units that are being fast-tracked, 6,000 are currently under construction.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Mayor Bass, good afternoon, good evening. I had a little question as it relates to some clarity I needed on what Roland asked you earlier. So in terms of the paramount merger, what are the potential job losses? Because as far as I understand it, the real question is basically, do you keep them there so those jobs aren't lost? or are you giving big business, you know, outsized influence through this merger? So what is your thought process with that? I know you had a press conference yesterday, but I don't really see clarity on what the projected job losses are if Paramount leaves as opposed to the retained job. So if you could shed some light on that, I'd appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Sure. Well, you know, it's also the timing because at a time like this, when we're trying to put things back together, I mean, if you just think about it, the industry had to deal with COVID. And then after COVID, there were the strikes. Then there's just the change in the industry in terms of ownership, but also with artificial intelligence. So there's a lot of change and a lot of uncertainty that is happening.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And so the county just released a report about the job loss. And basically, you know, the upshot of that report is that thousands of jobs would be lost if this merger goes through in the way that is being proposed right now. Attorney General Banta has filed suit. And so in my conversation with him, it's a question of when will a trial happen? When will we know one way or another? Mayor, one of the stories that we have been talking about is the LAPD officer who recorded fellow working making racist comments. You blasted the decision.
Starting point is 00:56:38 A couple weeks ago, you blasted the decision. to charge them will now fill any charges have been dropped against that police officer Daniel Flores. He will now face misdemeanor charges after a backlash over the felony charges. Talk about that because, I mean, he was recording folks who are there to protect and serve who are making racist comments. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Well, and that's the thing is that I had been trying to increase the number of officers that we have in our our city because we were having massive retirements. And again, in two years, we're going to have the Olympics here. I would rather we beef up our police department rather than have federal intervention happen again. And so we were trying to get the officers hired, but we were having problems with the hiring process, not the recruitment process. We had a very, very large recruiting class, but we couldn't get them through the process. We knew that there were problems happening internally. And when we found out about this, then I made personnel changes because obviously I don't want anybody in the personnel department that is going to be making racist comments
Starting point is 00:57:50 about hiring officers when we want to make sure that our police department is diverse. And so I did not agree with what the district attorney did by charging the felonies. I do not want to suppress whistleblowers. We needed people to come forward. And we had finally got to the point where people were beginning to come forward and talk about what was happening that was delaying the process internally. And then the officer gets slapped with felony charges. So that's why I disagree. I've often talked about the need for African Americans to maximize our vote.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And for all folks to do that. There's somebody who's watching who says, you know what, I don't want to hear any of this. I'm sick of politics. they may choose the couch versus voting in this race. Right. If that person is watching and listening, what do you say to them as to why they should participate in the electoral process in the mayor's race of Los Angeles?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Well, I mean, I say that our future is at stake. I think we have a very bright future in the city of Los Angeles. And the last thing in the world I want to see is for there to be a new explosion of people on our streets who are homeless. There's some fundamental disagreements that I have with my opponent, and I believe that she would move things backwards, back to policies that I've been fighting since the day that I took office, and we do not want to see that happen. Our city is moving forward. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of problems in the city that have been around for a couple of decades, if not longer, and we're on track to make major headway
Starting point is 00:59:34 that needs to continue moving forward, not to stay backward. And I will just say, for people that don't vote, then you are essentially handing your future over to someone who I think is very dubious in terms of they've been in City Hall for twice as long as I have. They're trying to run a race as though they're an outsider when they are not an outsider. And one needs to look at their record to say, what actually have you accomplished? in the six and a half years you've been in city hall. Mayor Karen Bass, we certainly appreciate you joining us.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Thanks a bunch. Thank you for having me on, Roland. Good to see you. All right, take care. Folks, go to a break. We come back. A World War II hero has a ship named after him. So why, as Pete Hegg says, considering stripping the black man's name off of that and putting Donald Trump's name on it who is never ever served in the military. We're going to talk to a family member of that brother next right here on Roland Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.
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Starting point is 01:03:22 Check it out. I'm Ryan Wilson, CEO co-founder of The Gathering Spot, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Network. Hits keep on coming. Donald Trump and Maga's attempt to erase black history never seems to end. There are reports, and C&A reported this, that the U.S. Navy is considering renaming the future USS Doris Dory Miller aircraft carrier and potentially naming it after the four-time draft dodging twice impeach, criminally convicted, felon, con man, as well as never served in the military Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:04:39 This proposal is drawing much criticism from lawmakers and veterans advocates. The Ford Class Aircraft Carrier designated CVN-81 was named after Doris, Dory Miller, during Donald Trump's first term, marking the first time a U.S. aircraft carrier would be named after an enlisted sailor and the first named after a black American. Now, for those who don't know, Dory Miller, native of Texas, enlisted. in the Navy in 1939. Because the military remained segregated at the time, black sailors were largely limited to service roles
Starting point is 01:05:12 rather than combat positions. Miller served as a mess attended aboard the battleship USS West Virginia. According to that Navy accounts on December 7, 1941, during Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, Miller helped carry wounded sailors to safety, including his mortally wounded commanding officer after the USS West Virginia was hit
Starting point is 01:05:33 by multiple torpedoes and bombs. untrained on a 50 caliber gun, he then manned that anti-aircraft gun despite, again, no formal training on the weapon. Now, this was the photo that the Navy shot when the family unveiled the plaque commemorating the future Navy ship. Again, this was in January 2020. Now, the CNN report also says that, and here's what you see, go back to my iPad, the Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization on the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump. joining us right now is the great, great grandniece of Dory Miller. That's Ray Mayweather, joining us from Arlington, Texas.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Glad to have you on the show. This is, we've had to consistently deal with this administration just screwing over black folks in the military. You've got Secretary of Defense Pete Hegg said denying, denying promotions for African Americans. They pull the information of Jackie Robinson. from websites. Same thing in terms of Megra Everest from the All International Cemetery website. They removed the portrait of General Davis. It just goes on and on and on. And so has your
Starting point is 01:07:11 family been in touch with the Navy? Has anybody talked to y'all about this CNN report? No, we have been unaware. We haven't been contacted pertaining to this matter. matter. From hearing it, we are, you know, we're upset. We've been fighting hard to get this for, my great uncle, and then to know that it's being named after someone that didn't even fight in the service is, it's just kind of a dishonor, you know? But we're still fighting hard. Hopefully, we are able to see that ship's still one day, hopefully sooner than later, as well as the Medal of Honor following behind it. And so is the family communicating?
Starting point is 01:07:55 I mean, how many relatives do you have? And are y'all, you know, what are y'all doing to make sure that the attention stays on his actions and that he followed through what they promised six years ago? So we are a big family. And, you know, we go by the same millis strong. And with that, we're just all hands on deck. You know, we're doing our interviews. We're talking to people.
Starting point is 01:08:21 or reaching out to who we feel can help us. So that way, we are able to still fight and get this ship sold. Questions from the panel. First off, Candice. I'm just curious about what those conversations have been like within the family in terms of specifically, you know, how you found out about this and how you all came together and said, what's going on? What did that look like?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Well, we have a family. group chat. So probably like most families, you know, it hit the group chat. You know, got together, came up with the plan, and then here we are. I'm one of the advocates right now, you know, speaking to y'all, trying to get it out. So hopefully everyone watching can go fight for us, speak for us, so that we are able to get, you know, the ship sold for my uncle under his honor. And the White House hasn't reached out or anybody from executive level? no mail Michael
Starting point is 01:09:24 so my question would be what is it that you would want us to know about Doris Miller or Dory Miller that it may not be in public we know
Starting point is 01:09:38 that he was portrayed about Cuba Gooding Jr. in the movie Pearl Harbor we see these various stories from different news outlets NBC News, CNN, the Guardian but what are some things that you want to
Starting point is 01:09:51 the public to know about him that mainstream media is not telling us? Um, I mean, my, my uncle was, my great uncle was, he was just, you know, from a small town, just trying to help his family survive. Um, so his family, so his parents would have to struggle anymore. Um, I'm pretty sure my uncle didn't, you know, going to the military, you know, knowing this was going to happen, but amongst that, he put his fear to the side to help save his captain to help fight for our country to get that honor. So I feel like at least the least we can do is allow this ship to be named after him and let us see us all. All right. Thank you. Matt? So my question is how is the family considering, I guess, the Navy's department's intent to try to give him the Medal of Honor, I guess, in the context of the ship name being rescinded. I saw, in the article that there was a favorable kind of sentiment for that,
Starting point is 01:10:58 but I'd love to hear what the family's thoughts are about the Medal of Honor versus the naming of the ship. Of course, we would be honored to receive that, but at the end of the day, I feel like both is deserving. As a family, we feel like both is deserving. I mean, that's that. All right then. Well, listen, we're going to continue to push
Starting point is 01:11:26 the issue. We're going to continue to let folks know and and also if folks actually I see this here let folks know there is a it was a monument named after Dory Miller exactly where can folks go to see that monument? It's located in Waco, Texas. Okay. All right. All right then well we certainly appreciate it. That's right. Thanks a lot. No, thank you. Folks, I'm going to do this here. This is the Pacific Fleet actually put together a video on the story behind Dory Miller. Give me one second.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I want to go ahead and play that for y'all. For those of y'all who may not be familiar with this story, check this out. Behind every medal awarded in battle, there's a story. My SUV is worth more than ever. Time to upgrade? never been a better time. At Plaza Auto Group locations get top value for your trade and shop hundreds of new and pre-owned vehicles across 11 locations. And if you can't come to us, we'll come to you. With best in class pricing, unbeatable trade values, and 70 years of trust. It's easy to see why
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Starting point is 01:13:39 community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes, Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:24 What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think it's the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.
Starting point is 01:14:52 You know, Danny McBride. ride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity. Exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's just a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested. Or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotvey, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space.
Starting point is 01:16:10 You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Many of these stories begin on distant battlefields, showcasing acts of valor and the chaos of combat. The story behind Doris Miller's Navy Cross. However, began in the kitchen of a battleship on a beautiful, quiet Sunday morning. The nation was at peace, and most of the ships assigned to the naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, were Peerside. The date was December 7, 1941. Miller was a Navy cook, one of the few ratings opened to African Americans at the time. He had just finished serving breakfast on board when he heard the alarm no sailor ever wants to hear. Zero water.
Starting point is 01:17:23 We're on hand. Deffling explosions and thick black smoke filled the air as torpedoes began to rip into the hull of his ship. Miller ran to his battle station, an anti-aircraft battery, just to find it was destroyed. That's when an officer spotted him and asked him to help save the ship's captain, who was bleeding from a shrap-load. After assisting the captain, Miller manned a 50-calibre machine gun, and despite having never used one before, again firing it at incoming enemy aircraft to defend his shipmates.
Starting point is 01:17:59 By the time he ran out of ammunition, enemy aircraft had bombed and torpedoed through the deck of the ship, and he immediately began to carry his injured shipments off the sinking ship and to safety. Thousands of American sailors were killed during the attack on Pearl Harbor, but it was clear that Miller's heroic action saved the lives of many who would have otherwise died that day. Miller was recognized as one of the first U.S. heroes of World War II for his actions that day and was awarded the Navy Cross by Admiral Chester Nimitz. He became the first African American to earn the Navy Cross. After his award, Miller returned to the fleet and continued to fight. In 1943, his ship was struck by a Japanese torpedo and destroyed.
Starting point is 01:18:54 On December 7th, exactly two years after Miller's heroic act, After Miller's heroic actions at Pearl Harbor, his parents were informed their son was missing in action. While Doris Miller died in battle, his fighting spirit and legacy lives on. His name has come to be synonymous with heroism, bravery, and selflessness. On behalf of the United States Navy,
Starting point is 01:19:20 we salute you, Doris Miller, and will never let your story be forgotten. We heard of that video where they talked about he was one of the first heroes of, World War II. But a lot of folks may not be aware of. And again, the reason
Starting point is 01:19:58 this is so important because we talk about African Americans and history and the role that we have played. So here he is one of the first heroes of
Starting point is 01:20:14 World War II. The first hero of World War II. The first hero of World War II, was also a black man, Sergeant Henry Johnson. And it's important because we're dealing with a racist administration who is doing all they can to completely erase black people from the history.
Starting point is 01:20:42 They're doing all they can to create this other, this other, whatever the hell they're doing. And so for the people who say, this is really no big deal. No, it is. Because they will never
Starting point is 01:21:04 ever be able to strip us of that history. And oh, they try. They'll try. They'll do all
Starting point is 01:21:21 he can. That's a movie. You can actually go to Netflix. It's called the Harlem Hellfighters. And it's available on Netflix. And again, here you have Sergeant Henry Johnson. I'm going to play a couple of videos for you. This here is, was produced by Arlington National Cemetery.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Because President Brockville. Obama after all of these years, again, Sergeant Henry Johnson, y'all, was hailed around the country and the world as the first hero of World War I. Yet it took Obama becoming president for this brother to finally get the nation's highest honor, the Medal of Honor. Watch this. The Medal of Honor is awarded to illustrate acts of heroism above and beyond the call of duty. Over 3,400 medals have been awarded to soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines. At Arlington Cemetery, we have 411 Medal of Honor recipients, and that includes the unknown soldiers. The Medal of Honor is a symbol of our nation's gratitude for what these
Starting point is 01:22:55 men did. The United States entered World War I, Henry enlisted. He joined one of only a few units that he could. the All-Black 369th Infantry Regiment, the Harlem Hellfighters, and soon he was headed overseas. At the time our military was segregated. Most black soldiers served in labor battalions, not combat units. But General Pershing sent the 369th to fight with the French Army, which accepted them as their own.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Quickly, the hellfighters lived up to their name, and in the early hours of May 15, 1918, Henry Johnson became a legend. His battalion was in northern France, tucked into a trench. Some slept, but he couldn't. Henry and another soldier, Needham Roberts, stood sentry along no man's land. In the pre-dawn, it was pitch black and silent, and then a click, the sound of wirecutters. A German raiding party, at least a dozen soldiers, maybe more, fired a hail of bullets. Henry fired back until his rifle was empty.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Then he and Needham threw grenades. Both of them were hit. Needham lost consciousness. Two enemy soldiers began to carry him away while another provided cover firing at Henry. But Henry refused to let them take his brother in arms. He shoved another magazine into his rifle. It jammed. He turned the gun around and swung it at one of the enemy, knocking him down.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Then he grabbed the only weapon he had left, his bowel knife, and went to rescue Needham. Henry took down one enemy soldier, then the other. The soldier he knocked down with his rifle recovered, and Henry was wounded again. But armed with just his knife, Henry took him down too. And finally, reinforcements arrived, and the last enemy soldier fled. As the sun rose, the scale of what happened became clear. In just a few minutes of fighting, two Americans defeated an entire raiding party, and Henry Johnson saved his fellow soldier from being taken prisoner.
Starting point is 01:25:24 At 97 years after his extraordinary acts of courage and selflessness, I'm proud to award him the Medal of Honor. The thing here, I'm going to go to Michael first. We cannot overlook and ignore how these people are trying to completely erase black people from military history but also a future history in the military. Hedgeseth is personally blocking black folks from being promoted, women from being promoted. What these people want and desire is what existed before 1948 when President Harry Truman deserogated the armed forces. What they desire is a white man's military.
Starting point is 01:26:27 So many things here, so I'm going to try to keep it as short as possible with this history lesson, but I'm familiar with Sergeant Henry Johnson and the Harlem Hell Fighters, the 369th. I teach some of that history. The Harlem Hill Fighters also credited with introducing jazz into France as well during World War I also. But I see some similarities here with Sergeant Henry Johnson, World War I and Doris Miller in World War II, because when you look at Doris Miller and you mentioned it, and you mentioned it, and his relative mentioned it also.
Starting point is 01:27:04 He was the son of a sharecropper. Okay? Well, if you understand the sharecropping system, right, that comes out of racism and trying to find another labor force after slavery ended. Okay? There's a concerted effort
Starting point is 01:27:19 that we've talked about on this show from this administration to wipe out the history of African Americans and attack African Americans on all different levels. This is, what's happening right now with renaming this
Starting point is 01:27:33 carrier ship is another example of that, but is tied into this system of white supremacy and racism. While at the same time, Trump and Hexef and the rest of these clowns say they want merit. They want a merit-based system.
Starting point is 01:27:50 But now, Donald Trump is the same one who said that Darlene Graham should succeed Lindsey Graham, and she was just in the Senate debate, said she don't know a damn thing about national security and we're in a war with Iran. but somehow she's qualified to be a U.S. Senator. Okay, so when you start looking at this, see, these are the consequences of elections.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Lastly, the brothers who served in World War I, when World War I ends in 1918, the next year of 1919 is known as the Red Summer. So they're met with, it's about 25 race riots that take place in this country. But these brothers continue to fight back because they're out in the streets, defending their community using their military skills fighting against these white supremacists. So there's a lot of lessons here, okay, in these various levels. But we can, we see how this white supremacy continues from this administration. This is why these 2026 midterm elections, one of the reasons why they're so crucial.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Candace. Well, this is the reason why it's so important to teach history at home, to teach history in the church. because as you said, if not, black history would be eviscerated without even understanding, you know, how we got here, but certainly we can't take out what we've contributed to this society.
Starting point is 01:29:15 I just think it's a good time for people to kind of sit back and realize what is going on, but also how to fill in the gaps. No matter what school you are going to, they are not teaching enough about black history. They're not teaching enough about any history, the history that affects white people, especially white men. You mentioned that he wants a white male,
Starting point is 01:29:38 you know, army and navy and military. They're also testing testosterone, right? We want somebody who's a white male that has to be, have a certain level of testosterone to make sure that they fill, you know, their idea of what it takes to be a man. It's crazy. It is crazy. But it also is just another reminder that we have to do our own work, and we have to continue to talk about it because they want to disappear us. This is exactly what this is about, and this is exactly that they've been continuing since he has been in office. Keep saying, Matt, elections have consequences. And people need to understand because Donald Trump is sitting in the Oval Office and not Kamala Harris, these things
Starting point is 01:30:27 have been taking place. Pete Higg-Seth has put back the portrait of Robert E. Lee in the cafeteria at West Point, in the dining hall. Okay? They put back that Confederate. They were so shameful that they went back.
Starting point is 01:30:45 So instead of using the Confederate names of the Army bases, they literally went through American history to find a last name the same as the Confederates in order to rename.
Starting point is 01:31:01 in order to rename these bases. In fact, there was a base that was in Louisiana that was actually named after Johnson that then got renamed. And so what they also, they are directly impacting black economics because by denying promotions to African Americans who have absolutely earned them, you're not impacting their retirement pay.
Starting point is 01:31:30 You're impacting how high they can go. For the people who always talk about merit, what they really are doing are promoting their cronies. They are promoting white men who are less qualified than the African Americans and the women who have been recommended through a rigorous process. For the people who say, man, my vote don't matter. This is an example of yes, it does.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And this is an example that should be, the least politicized example, at least in terms of what we talk about as national values, things that are nationally important, right, the heroism of our service members. And, you know, my experience is anecdotal in this regard, but I don't think it tracks with even most white military service members. One of my dear childhood friends died in Afghanistan when I was in law school. His name was Brian Lundy. He was a Navy Hospital Corman, and he lost his life in the battlefield. Every year I post something about him. Every year our friends post something about him. And overwhelmingly, white service people and Hispanic service people and all the other people
Starting point is 01:32:39 who have served will just continue to tell me what a hero he is and hold him up. I mean, they would say he's the kind of man, a black man, who should be heralded for his heroism, right? And that's from white service members. I don't even think this tracks what actual service members think is important. What this tracks is political rhetoric. And this is people who want to whitewash history and who want to whitewash the military, despite the fact that people in the military very often understand the sacrifice and will hold up a black person or a non-white person or a non-straight person or a non-male person for their heroism and their service. And, you know, this is purely, we think it's politically expedient, politically valuable to undermine
Starting point is 01:33:22 these people and we're going to do that. And, you know, it's interesting to me, and I don't really understand how it makes sense, but this is generally the same contingent of people who espoused the greatest respect for the military, right? So you would think there would be a contingent of MAGA voters who were like, man, this is a bridge too far, because these are the people that we hold up on a pedestal, and you're saying that even black and non-white people who are a part of these groups should not be held up, and there should be the gold standard because of their service. So I don't really understand the cognitive dissonance, but I think you're exactly right, because that's why President Obama, you know, gave the Medal of
Starting point is 01:33:57 honor to Henry Johnson and then in the next administration, even though a couple years later, you see them now changing military bases back to Confederate names under the guise of it being someone else with the same name. It's pure racism and I'm surprised that even people in that lot accept it. So, again, folks understand it. Fort Polk was renamed after Sergeant Henry Johnson in 2024. It lasted one year. And a year later, that's when Trump came in and they took it back to Fort Polk, stripping that base after, again, let me remind y'all. He was not the first black hero of World War I. He was the first American hero of World War I who fought off and killed 32 Germans by himself.
Starting point is 01:34:51 And it took more than 100 years, almost nearly 100 years, to get the Medal of Honor. That's called racism in America. You're watching Rolla button unfiltered on the Black Star Network. All right, folks, let me get approached for a second. My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter, a Medicare advisory company, and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit. It was easy. A real person walked her through the whole thing, and now she understands better what's going on.
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Starting point is 01:37:43 Although Congressman Byron Donald's won Florida's Republican gubernatorial primary by a wide margin on Tuesday, he underperform among some of the state's whitest and most rural places, losing several counties outright. Two, current lieutenant governor, Jay Collins. Donald's lost 17 counties across Florida, and in 16 of them, at least 92% of Republican voters are white. counties where GOP members are more diverse, he beat Collins in 39 out of 40. Hmm, what could this portend for November when he is going to be facing former Republican, turned Democrat, former Congressman David Jolly? What you think, Candace?
Starting point is 01:38:27 You know what? White folks are telling on themselves, that's what I think. And, you know, it's something that is not surprising because when we see the way that that across the country what we've been talking about, especially in the last segment, how black folks are being treated and how they're regarded, it is hard for them to see someone in a black position leading them. And that's what this really stems from.
Starting point is 01:38:51 At the end of the day, often what happens is that decisions are made, maybe not this one, but many times decisions are made that in terms of white people and what they're choosing, that often will hurt them. I don't know what the situation will be in this case, However, we know that this is something that makes sense in terms of them not being able to identify with this particular candidate. And we know exactly why. We know it's somebody that they do not trust.
Starting point is 01:39:19 We know it's somebody that they are not used to. They're not used to. And even though they got the backing of Donald Trump, it wasn't enough. And I think that is very, very telling about the world and the society in which we live. Matt? Matt, do you want to hit the me button, Matt? I said, what I'm really baffled by is I don't know how you grow up in Brooklyn and it end up being the MAGA candidate for governor in Florida. That's just wild to me. But in any event, I think Candace hit the nail on the head. I think there are a lot of people who are, whether they'll ever admit it, are subconsciously not okay with a black person leading them or who subconsciously think he's not as qualified. And therefore, that's why they're not going to vote for him. I would say maybe a political reason might be that he doesn't have the same gravitas in their minds. as Ron DeSantis, who's leaving, who I think is a nut job. But similar to Trump, I think,
Starting point is 01:40:20 you know, has a large contingent of people that like him for him from a personality standpoint. Maybe they don't think Donald's has that juice. But I think the obvious elephant in the room is that this brother does not embody what they expect their prototypical person to look like, and therefore they went in a different direction. But I don't know whether that means he still loses the election overall. I don't know enough about the other candidate to speak educatedly. on that. Michael? I ran Jim Crowe Donald's. Rolling, rolling, rolling.
Starting point is 01:40:52 This is, I mean, this is, you know, this is karma coming back on him. He raised $100 million in his campaign. And last time I checked got only 49% of the vote. Yeah, yeah, he won the primary. But how much money he raised and he still didn't get 50% of the vote? Byron, these white people are just not that into you. I hope David Jolly whoops his ass. I hope David Jolly, former Republican.
Starting point is 01:41:21 David Jolly makes a lot of sense in many areas. It makes more sense than Byron Donald does. All this ass kissing that Byron Dallens has done, endorsed by Donald Trump in Red, Florida, and he didn't get 50% of the vote. Okay, so, you know, it's interesting. I remember Roland when you had Byron Donald's on and he was complaining that he wasn't,
Starting point is 01:41:46 he was rejected by the congressional black caucus, if I remember correctly. He wanted to join, and they did want him to join. And I remember Joanne Reed talking about how he tried to woo his first wife, the black one with a fake Jamaican accent, all that stuff. Yeah, okay, Donald, yeah. All this is coming out, Byron, Jim Crow, Donald's.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Look him up. Well, it shall be interesting. You also have Republican, Reverend Congress of John James, who's running for governor in Michigan. There was another brother he ran for a Republican nomination in Minnesota. He got trounced. So has not been a good year for black Republicans. Listen, there are at least Florida is, it favors Republicans, okay?
Starting point is 01:42:34 It favors Republicans. And so Jolly is going to have to really put together a significant coalition in order to win. Democrats have not won there statewide. Nikki Freed was the last one. She's now the chair of the party. She was the last one to actually win statewide in Florida. And so they're trying to put that together.
Starting point is 01:42:59 But one of the things that is going to have to happen, they're going to have to understand when you talk about running. And I'm going to pull this up. Let me try to find it. And that is what is interesting on the jolly side, and also dealing with Representative Angie Nixon. She was able to bring out voters, and I'm trying to find the graphic. I saw it earlier.
Starting point is 01:43:27 I'm trying to find it right now. She was able to bring out voters who were not involving elections. So he won more high-end voters. And so they're going to have to actually really merge that to win. A lot of these people keep talking about DSA, DSA. In fact, if y'all have the clip of Angie Nixon with Christian Welker, Angie was like, you're the ones who keep bringing this up. Y'all have it, roll it.
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Starting point is 01:45:02 I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I have, I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right. Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I'm Hoda Kotvi. most of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotbe. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out.
Starting point is 01:47:58 You're not hired just to fill time into space. You're hired to fill the space. with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. deny their claims. They want to deny them life-saving health care. Like, that is wrong.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Do we not see anything wrong with these companies? But doing this, they're only doing this because they want to make a profit. Why join the DSA if you disagree with various parts of their platform? Does it not just become a distraction from your own campaign and your own agenda? You all are the only ones that are distracted. I'm actually going out talking to voters about the things that matter to them. And so we should make sure that we're pivoting to the right conversations. The fact remains that there are people who are dying because they don't have access to quality health care. Meanwhile, Ashley Moody voted to end the ACA subsidies. As I stated, nearly 300,000 people fell off the Affordable Care Act rolls. There are people who are dying
Starting point is 01:49:24 because they don't have access to health care. Also, the fact that Ashley Moody is corrupt, right? She's corrupt. She allowed $10 million that was supposed to go towards the most medically needy kids to be diverted because they wanted to defeat two citizen-led ballot initiatives. The status quo is broken. People are losing their minds right now and taking their lives and even taking their children's lives. And the people at the top want to stoke division and want to like push this hateful rhetoric. At the end of the day, I have always been about the people of Florida, which is why my campaign is Angie for Florida. I want people to no longer just survive. They deserve to thrive and flourish.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Crushed it. Jessica Tarloff, who is the resident liberal on Fox News is the Five, she towards those idiots as well. Inadvisable to have only read about something and then probably read propaganda about it in the first place. This was humiliating, like Megan Romer's been
Starting point is 01:50:33 humiliating herself. with Shannon Bream and with David Remnick, who had the best line where he looked at her really sincerely, and he said, Megan, do you think that's a good idea? She said yes. Yes. But it was still a well-delivered line where he was trying to give her, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:50 throwing the lifeline out there, saying you can back off of whatever position it was, whether it was abolishing prisons or getting rid of the Senate, the presidency, and the Supreme Court. Listen, those interviews, obviously, catnip. for everybody that is concerned about the rise of the DSA wings,
Starting point is 01:51:08 so the moderate Democrats and certainly Republicans that want to, you know, cast this vision that now the party is completely overrun with these people, and there are no normal human beings anymore. There are plenty of normal human beings. If the DSA representatives who are in elections won every single one of them, it would still be under 10% of the caucus.
Starting point is 01:51:30 That's the reality here. And, you know, Angie Nixon is not, like Daryaliza Chevalier. If you listen to her, if you look at her history, she joined the DSA, first of all, like two months ago. So someone with a long history of union organizing, she won all of the counties with lowest income and the least educated people in Florida. That is something that you have not seen in other races with a DSA candidate. Huge amount of black support, very different. And Abdul al-Sayed, who is going to have a very tough road ahead of him, doesn't even affiliate with the DSA and identifies as a capitalist. So while Republicans,
Starting point is 01:52:04 and I understand why you're doing it, are spending all their time running clips of this and, you know, feeding it and feeding it and feeding it. Races are shifting only in the Democrats' direction. Texas Senate went from Lien R to Tossup, so Jesse should help Ken Paxton out a little more. Iowa Senate, Lean R to toss up. Texas Governor, Solidar to Lien R
Starting point is 01:52:27 and Iowa toss up to lean D. So you can keep talking about this until you're blue in the face. but the country will go blue while you are doing it. Wow. It's very simple. Listen, it's real simple. And that is, as Agent Nixon, I'm not getting caught up in your labels.
Starting point is 01:52:48 You could be the biggest capitalist in the world. And the Republicans are still going to call you a socialist and a communist. Any of y'all can jump in? If you don't mind, Roland, I'll take that because they mentioned Abdul El-Said and he's here in Michigan and I know Abdul as well. So a few things. She also mentioned Texas, so Matt could jump in. Man, go on here, go on here, go on here.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Oh, okay. Man, go on here, go on here. Okay, all right. Also, good seeing you this weekend rolling in Atlanta at the NABJ conference. Great job moderating the panel of discussion also. So a few things, number one, I watched the full 12-minute interview
Starting point is 01:53:30 that Kristen Walker did on NBC now with Angie Nixon yesterday. Angie Nixon said she's a cat. And when you research Angie Nixon, because Angie Nixon is a business owner also, okay? And she says she's a capitalist. She joined the Democratic Socialists of America. She joined it in June of 2006, just a few months ago. And with any political party, generally speaking, most people who join the political party don't agree 100% with the platform.
Starting point is 01:54:01 There are a few things here and there they disagree with. So I see in corporate control media them trying to drive this wedge and going after Angie Nixon with the DSA title, but not saying that she's a capitalist. And you mentioned, they mentioned, I'm Said there on the five. And he lost the black vote here in Michigan, okay? He did appeal to younger African Americans and younger people in general. and he appealed to a lot of low information voters. So he has a lot of work to do in the African-American community, especially some black people as well as black women
Starting point is 01:54:43 who are still upset about the uncommitted movement, okay? And that's why a lot of them are upset with recita uncommitted Talib also. And lastly, with David Jolly, I saw the piece that you played, I think last night, Roland, of David Jolly when he was on MS Now, because I saw that live. David Jolly talks about how he supports Angie Nixon, but he's going to have to do a better job
Starting point is 01:55:10 of answering that question. When they say, can they nominate, can they elect David Jolly and Angie Nixon? Yes, yes, Florida can do that. Yes, don't say, well, it's up to the voters. No, the answer is yes. Well, but listen, what I'm saying here is what you are seeing, Candice,
Starting point is 01:55:31 you are seeing people who are fighters and people and voters are saying, that's who I want. I mean, I'm telling you, this is very reminiscent to me of the rise of the Tea Party Freedom Caucus members. And remember, the Freedom Caucus in the House, it's only about 20 or 30 of them. They're not the majority, but they wield significant power. So I need folk to focus on beating MAGA and not playing media games getting caught up in titles. And here's what we know. When it comes to somebody like Angie Nixon, the person who has the boots on the ground and is doing the work, people don't care about titles. People don't really even understand titles in socialism, old school socialism, new school socialism.
Starting point is 01:56:23 They just see the work and they see the type of work in terms of the clip that we just saw. They also can identify with what she's saying in terms of people do not have money for insurance. People do not have money or time for the algorithm of an insurance company in order to determine whether they're getting an MRI or cancer treatment that they need. This is why Luigi Mangione was able to plead guilty and might get off on the state because he's got so many people that finally found a vessel in him to not see him as a murderer, but make him a martyr because of all of the the disgust that they have because of the system. So when they see somebody like her talking the talk and walking the walk, the label doesn't matter. People just need to know, are you going to
Starting point is 01:57:10 make my life easier in this area and that area? And she's doing the work. Matt? You know, when we're mired in conversations about class struggle and you have the mayor in New York City talk about affordability issues and making buses free and those kinds of things, people are worried about deliverables. They are, I don't think the vast majority of people are thinking that these DSA candidates are walking around, waving around the communist manifesto and preaching about the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, right? I mean, the reality is they're talking about kitchen table issues, and that's what people are worried about right now. And I think it is a miscalculation to think that you can just reinstitute McCarthyism, say socialists, say
Starting point is 01:57:54 communist enough times. And that is going to scare people off of the substantive point. Now, we know not all voters are educated. I have no illusion with that. But clearly, the fact that this is taking root across the country shows that people are more worried about the issues than they are the labels. So I think, you know, going forward, if the Republicans want to push back on that, they need to be more substantive in the pushback rather than merely saying James Tala Rico is a socialist or a communist. I mean, even hearing her say that Texas and that Senate race has gone from hard R to a toss-up is crazy. right? Because in my lifetime, we haven't had like, you know, Democrats across the state, I think, since Ann Richards and around that time. So for that to be a conversation we're having shows you people that are looking at the substance, not the labels. And I think that's a good thing. Okay. I am still cracking up at the absolute crash out of MAGA over Senator John Ossoff mentioning Natalie. Don Trump's
Starting point is 01:58:59 I mean, these people are, y'all, they're literally losing it. I saw this video here, okay, so first, it's a couple videos we're going to play. Okay, so this was Fox News and this is, first of all, somebody who really actually didn't like Trump, but then he switched sides, Hugh Hewitt, listen to him just, oh my God, whining, please, watch the pearl clutching. Well, the Atlanta mayor is true, but what Patrick just said, and I got to correct him, is not. Natalie Hart is absolutely above board John Ossoff. What he said was repulsive.
Starting point is 01:59:41 He'd been repudiated by David Axelrod and other serious Democrats. You, you, you, time out, time out. You, you, you. President Trump left the Secretary of State and his Secretary of Treasury. Natalie Hart has not had any relationship with the president. It's disgusting, Patrick. He didn't say that. He just said he went on.
Starting point is 01:59:58 To insinuate that is disgusting. Listen, I know you're clutching your pearls, but it's a little rich after the last 10 years of... Do you think it's true? No, you don't. You know it's a lie by Osop. You know it's a lie by Osop. Did the president take a point with her... Did the president take the point with her and left the Secretary of State...
Starting point is 02:00:16 He is a close age. Yes or no. And if you are going to deal a misogynistic lies, shame on you in the Democratic Party. God bless you, buddy. Francesca, quickly, your thought. Boy, they're really wild. I mean, they're just like, oh my God, how dare you? You want to see C now in action?
Starting point is 02:00:39 Here is the cryptkeeper, Bill O'Reilly on his show, the sexual harasser, Bill O'Reilly. But God can't believe, John O'Soft, listen. They're smear merchants. There's Ossov. I would not vote for. I'd vote for Putin. over Assov. That's how bad this guy
Starting point is 02:01:02 Assov is. Believe me, if I were President Trump, I'd be combing everything that Oslo has ever done, ever done for doing this. But you don't get any of that
Starting point is 02:01:18 from the press. You got ho, ho, ho, ho. Ha, ha, ha. But you didn't get con. Oh my God. We also got Mr. Lufa, Bill O'Reilly. Didn't you have to pay in Fox $32 million in the sexual harassment law case? Yeah, we've already combed over your stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Okay. So y'all, then the funny thing to me was these fools got into it. So this is, I'm not going to play all of it because I don't even want to hear all of it. But Bill O'Reilly and Chris Cuomo, they got it onto the Fox News Light Show. network news nation. And I mean, these people are literally losing their mind. Now, you teased Osloff. I want to get to that. Oh, yeah, go ahead. You said you'd rather vote for Putin.
Starting point is 02:02:18 I'd rather, I would. You'd vote for Vladimir Putin, who is a murderer. You would vote for a murderer over a U.S. senator. Well, when you frame it that way, I might stay home. Yeah, probably a good call, Bill. Okay. Osloff goes out there and number one says, this is Trump's war, he lied about it,
Starting point is 02:02:43 but doesn't say what the lies are. I'd like to know what the lies are, because I don't know what they are. That they were in imminent threat of getting something, that it would be over in a couple of weeks. That's all. Go ahead. Okay. Maybe that's a miscalculation.
Starting point is 02:02:57 It's not a lie. A lie is when you wake up in the morning, say, I'm going to deceive everybody from my own game. That's what a lie is. And then Ossev attacks Natalie Harp. Now I know Natalie Harp. And there is nobody that I know who works harder for this country. She's always on call.
Starting point is 02:03:18 Okay, she is a decent human being. And I can attest to that. Why would you do that? Why would you impugn this woman's character in a cheap, gutter-snipe way? So Asov is a gutter. Snipe. That's who he is. And the people of Georgia should know because character counts. You know? Bill, the man he said it about. What? And you're going to say, I don't do that. I know, but you only don't do comparison when it's to Donald Trump. The idea that you or Scott
Starting point is 02:03:57 Jennings has your, have your panties in a bunch over what Osoff said about a woman connected to president when this man does nothing but denigrate women for sport on a regular base what about isn't bill yeah because it matters it doesn't matter if you're going to say you don't like also talking about natalie harp by the way i'm not endorsing going after anybody i'm just saying it's a little rich bill this is fifth grade stuff no it's not fifth grade this is fifth grade bill you can't pretend to have a standard of decency that you don't employ on the president You can't do that. It's hypocritical. This is going to help your career.
Starting point is 02:04:39 We're not talking about Trump and Trump's insults. We're talking about a senator from Georgia and his insults. You deflect into what aboutism. That's fifth grade. No, it's not. Fifth grade. If you're going to be upset about what he said, then you need to employ that standard against the president of the United States because that is nothing compared what the president
Starting point is 02:05:00 says for sport and you say nothing. say, that's Trump being Trump. Well, this is Osaf being Oswald. Love him or hate him. That's, again, you don't know what you're talking about. I've criticized Donald Trump many times for these ridiculous arguments and insults that lead nowhere. And anybody who watches the No Spin News or sees my commentary knows that. You were just, you were just using me as a Democrat.
Starting point is 02:05:28 You were you helping my career by calling me a Democratic spokesperson on your show yesterday? I'm helping your career. Donald Trump, he knows a what about is. Like all Democrats, like I'm a Democrat. If I'm a Democrat, if I don't care whether you like them or not. Then you're a report. You said it on your show. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:05:44 I don't care whether you like them or not. What I want you to stop is the what aboutism. No. It is not making you. Matters. If you're going to apply a moral standard or a character standard to one side, apply it to both. That's all I'm saying. You can call it whatever you want.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Each situation is done. different. This woman is innocent, and did you see the news cycle today? That's all you saw. Yeah, that's because you guys won't stop talking about it because you think it's going to help you put down Osoff. You guys. Yeah. Okay. You guys. I'll just point out that when Barack Obama was accused of being born in Kenya, I broke the story about the two newspapers in Honolulu that had to birth. Yeah, remind me, who was, who was? And I went to you. Who was front running that BS? Remind me?
Starting point is 02:06:36 Who was it? Anybody? Anybody? I don't know who it was. Oh, Donald Trump. I forgot. It was Donald Trump that was front running that BS. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:06:45 See what I'm saying? He doesn't run my operation. Yeah, but you should call it out. You're going to say you broke the story. You went after the BS. There's the captain of the BS team. So why don't you call him out? That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:06:56 I do. You don't follow it. You don't know. You just. don't know. Okay, well, I look forward to it because he just... I cannot stomach listen to more that stupidity. That's just, just stupid dumb.
Starting point is 02:07:13 They're just dumb shit. I mean, they, listen. I do, I do call him out. Dude, no, you don't. Okay, you kiss more ass than Ludov did when he was alive. I mean, these, they all do. Maria Bartramo, the whole Fox News. they all do. They all are joke. And oh my God, Matt, really? Did Bill O'Reilly actually say character counts?
Starting point is 02:07:46 Yeah. And not only that, it can't be what aboutism if like Cuomo's saying, you're making a moral judgment. I mean, if you're not doing that with Trump, then you are truly just choosing to be blind. And that's what you see, I think a lot of MAGA people, a lot of Republicans do often, is they just move the goalpost. You don't have the actual conversation. You call it what aboutism or point and deflect somewhere else. But, I mean, this is BS. The faux outrage is BS, particularly considering many things that the president has said long before he was ever president and after president. Candace, these right wingers, I mean, to see them lose it, I find, I've found it to be highly entertaining.
Starting point is 02:08:30 I mean, John Ossoff has literally sent these people into a tizzy. Yeah, and they do keep mentioning his name in order just to keep it alive, hoping that this will kind of gain some momentum, which if you're going to have a host like that really break down hypocrisy, it will never catch. But this is what we call the mannosphere. This is what Trump lives in, and this is how he functions. So, of course, you are probably going to question all the people,
Starting point is 02:09:00 who have seen them work together and the way she's professed her adoration for him in a way that you generally don't profess your adoration for someone who's an employer unless you want HR to get called. It is something that you kind of got to look at with a little bit of a side eye to figure out, all right, well, who is this young woman? And I know that she had cancer and she believes that, you know, he helped her in a lot of ways, but it is all still kind of curious. So I think that a I think that a lot of people are on Alsaf's side to kind of say, you know what, that's worth questioning. And let's see where this goes in terms of it now being on the table like this. And let's let the journalists do their job and the influencers do their job like they did with our day
Starting point is 02:09:47 and pull out all of the information and all of the research on Natalie. And let's see what we find. I am enjoying the crash out and Michael I hope they continue yeah Roland I am this is hilarious to me I've been watching this and Natalie Hart she was she was in the catering truck with Roland with Donald Trump as well when he was escaping out of Turkey when he's leaving in Turkey. And, you know, so we can call this segment grumpy old white men. That's what we should call this segment because it's good to see Hugh Hewitt. I didn't know Hugh Hewitt's ass was still alive.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Because I remember when Hugh Hewitt had his tired, dry show on MSNBC for an hour. It was so terrible, they cut it down to a half hour. So here you have these two old white men who are going after John Alsaw for just saying he was on the plane with Natalie. He didn't say anything improper or anything like that, but I think these are a bunch of hit dogs hollering. I think a lot of these old white men have a nap on the side that's drawing more attention to him. Because if you just listen to what they're saying, and they're trying to defend Donald Trump, who has a history of misogyny, a man who has found liable of sexually abusing E.J. Carroll in a civil trial. Okay, a man who bragged about grabbing women by the vagina and laughed about it.
Starting point is 02:11:20 So, you know, this, I hope more of this comes, this grumpy old white men segment. But this is hilarious to me. So I think a lot of them are filling the heat and is drawing more attention. I think there's a lot more Nally Harps out there that they're trying to hide. Oh, lastly, she went a year without a security clearance. How to hell you that close to the president? you go a year without a security class. And from the reporting that I'm hearing,
Starting point is 02:11:49 she refused to be subjected to a security class. But then he stepped in. I didn't even know you could refuse that. This is some white privileged shit I ain't never heard of before. Indeed. Our last story. This weekend, Chuck Brown Day is expected to take over the nation's capital in Fort DuPont Park. But the Chuck Brown family won't be there.
Starting point is 02:12:13 The annual community event is hosted by the D.C. Department of Parks and Recreation, and it's meant to honor the life and legacy and music of the Godfather of Go-Go. But the family says they're no longer supporting the event meant to celebrate his birthday. They posted this on the social media. The Brown family has decided that due to their marginalization over the past three years, with regard to the planning and substance of Chuck Brown Day, which we notified DPR of on February 3rd of this year, we no longer support the Chuck Brown Day event and do not want it to continue unless a
Starting point is 02:12:45 A new director and project leadership is in place to ensure that our duty to protect the integrity of Chuck Brown's legacy is respected, and that his family's wishes are taken seriously at all times. We can no longer risk allowing the events organizer's lack of communication, professionalism, and inability to abide by guidelines in contractual agreements to be interpreted as the family's approval of the event and its management. The family is now calling again for new leadership before it will support continuing Chuck Brown Day. Chuck Brown down on May 16, 2012 at Baltimore's Johns Hopkins of multiple organ failure, including heart failure. He was 75 years old. I often will see Chuck and the Tom Joyner, Fantastic Voyage crews, and he always had the party turned up.
Starting point is 02:13:29 And so hopefully the family in Washington, D.C. can sort out their differences and then they can stay involved because he certainly was indeed a pioneer. All right, y'all. That is it for us. Let me. thank Matt, we thank Candace, let me thank Michael, have been on today's show. I certainly appreciate it, folks. That is it for me. Tomorrow in Maryland, I'll see you at the ubiquitous Women Expo. I'll be speaking tomorrow at 1130. Monday, I'll be broadcasting live from Atlanta. A man, Chris Tucker has his golf tournament, and so we head back for another year. Y'all remember last year, we had way too much fun, and I need to find it. Remember that was
Starting point is 02:14:11 that? Remember that was that make? who was talking lots of trash and I had to just straight score on him. That was pretty funny when we had to do that. So I returned back hanging out with Chris helping him raise funds for his foundation. And so really look forward to being back, being there to see him. They do a great job with the tournament. And so look forward to playing and again raising money. And as I keep telling you, a lot of these events,
Starting point is 02:14:43 people have no idea how often these entities in terms of how much money they raise for so many different charities and the work they actually do. And so we are going to look forward to it. Matter of fact, this was, I'm not going to play all of it. So let me go ahead and see if I can cue it up. Because we has crazy fun last year. And I ran to so many people. Okay, I think was this it? Was this it?
Starting point is 02:15:10 Because one dude was talking so much. trash and I had to light him up. I think this let me just here's some of the last year's hold on one second. Give him one second I'm gonna play for y'all. This is somewhat last year man we had a crazy crazy time out there. Roll it. This ain't this ain't your grandpa. This is a light day. This ain't your grandpa. No one of the States. I mean we got a fan behind for the back of your head. Well we got one for your thigh. We got Like what, like what? This is what we do, right?
Starting point is 02:15:46 Did you grow up in Wisconsin or something? No, I lived in Buffalo, New York. From? Oh, you grew in Buffalo? Yes. Oh, so that's why your ass, that's why your ass can't handle the heat. Can not handle the heat? I mean, you got, I mean...
Starting point is 02:15:59 But you be on the corner, when you're on the corner. I mean, listen, you got an AC unit in here too? You got, you know, you got a little music, you know. You got deep freeze in the back? Got some beers, got some cold beers, you know. But you try to have a good time. Damn. My SUV's worth more than ever.
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Starting point is 02:17:48 Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head?
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Starting point is 02:18:53 Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right.
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Starting point is 02:20:27 or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a new dog. I'm trying to have a good time, man. I know. I mean, you had a bucket back here. A practice gig. Like, are you painting? Like, we got a bucket, we got range. We got, I mean, again.
Starting point is 02:20:47 You never know what you don't need something. Literally got, I got you. I got you. I'm just saying, in the fellow. We decide we're doing it. It's our condition. And he got couples and kicks it right. If you need all that, go home.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Just go ahead and stay in the house. This is my house. Put some slippers on and stay in the house. This is my house. Can you tell you? You got this? I got you. What you mean? What's up? You know all these fans he got in here?
Starting point is 02:21:55 Fans on the ground. Oh, oh. He's our pretty boy. This is what happened when you get. Moved on up. George Jefferson. Right, right. Moving on up.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Right. This is one of our brothers who moved on. I'm just saying, really. A little bit. Yeah, but yeah. If you got, I know what that is, that's called a flyaway signal. That's my boy.
Starting point is 02:22:41 That's the flyaway signal. Are your boys in prison? Yeah, yeah. We ain't, we ain't no social club. That's all your boys in prison. We ain't no shoes. You know y'all got more prison chapters than anything. I checked for electronic monitoring.
Starting point is 02:22:56 I left to see, you know, make sure his probation officers will let him come out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hundreds, and thousands and millions. Now, you know, dog, that's a lie. You know, you got a bunch of penny nails. Wait a minute, man. Now you...
Starting point is 02:23:14 This is just in the neighborhood. Now, you... Look, God, that's Jack. You know... Okay, I think he got a couple of millions. Who? Sarkil on here? And he is a cute.
Starting point is 02:23:25 The next question. And there's another guy named Michael George. You ever heard Robert Smith? You ever heard of Michael George? No, you ever heard of Michael. No, you ever heard of him? Right. And?
Starting point is 02:23:35 He's an alpha. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay. You're gonna sit your ass down. Yeah, yeah. So if you take Michael's money and put it with Shaq's money and all the rest of your money, y'all still can't, Robert Smith.
Starting point is 02:23:47 Like, I don't sit your ass down. Wait a minute. You can't, you can't, you can't. You can't. You got nine billion. You can't, I... That's the check, we got a Super Bowl champion, too. Who?
Starting point is 02:23:59 Who? Yeah. Jalen Hertz. Do you know how many... Do you know how many... Jaylon Hertz? You know how many... You got it to want Super Bowl?
Starting point is 02:24:09 Super Bowl. First ball. Super Bowl. Hold on. Which NFL player outside of Tom Brady has most Super Bowl rings? If you're going to brag, motherfucker, you ought to know the name. Which one? You ever heard of Charles Haley?
Starting point is 02:24:22 Man, that's all the whole... And you know what it is? That's an alpha man. Go on sit your ass down. You can't out-talk. Did you just proudly, did you just proud? Was it Omega? Did you just say Thurgood Marshall was an Omega?
Starting point is 02:24:47 Did I just hear that right? No, Marshall was an Omega? Last I checked, Thurgood Marshall plays Alpha at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania. This was after he tried to play as good. Thurston Marshall. Oh, Thurston Marshall, yeah. Because I know Thurgood, remember, Dr. Good,
Starting point is 02:25:13 remember, Dr. King, Alpha, Thurgood Marshall, Alpha. Thurgen Marshall, Alpha, Jesse Owens, Alpha. Do you want me to continue? I'm going to hurt your feelings. Better sit your ass down. Whatever. Whatever. Hold up.
Starting point is 02:25:26 Whenever they say, whenever they say whatever, that means the ass whipping has commenced. Whatever, Ronald. You're going to make the show on that one. You're going on, on. Oh, you're going to make the show on that one. I do not know why Omega's and Sigma's and Capas. I owe the AIDA ain't smart another challenge me.
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