#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump National Emergency On Voting Plot. Racism & Antiracism Studies Minor. Jackson Memorial.
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We tried to tell you, Donald Trump and his minions are trying to.
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in order to take over the midterm elections.
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has ruled Republicans must redraw lines there
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I'm not sure of the woman who is standing in between Rush as well as Sharpton.
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What I saw right there was Jacqueline Jackson.
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All right, folks, one of the areas where Reverend Jackson always was fighting on behalf was
the issue of voting rights.
And something is happening right now that we warn everybody was going to take place.
And that is Donald Trump and his minions, we're going to.
to do all they could to steal the election.
For the last six years, all Donald Trump has done
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Donald Trump said to Republicans last month that you guys got a hole onto the House.
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Greg, listen, you went to law school, you understand the law, and these folks are down and dirty, they're nasty, they're despicable, and what they are trying to do, this action right here, is all about how can they,
steal the midterms. He's scared to lose the House and lose the Senate because then he then
can't pass anything if Democrats control one or both of those chambers. If Democrats control
the Senate, they then determine his nominee is getting approved. They determine if there's
even going to be hearings for federal judges and Supreme Court judges. And so this sort of have
17 of his supporters now floating the possibility of taking over the election. It shows you how
desperate and corrupt these people are.
Yes, sir. Absolutely.
You know, I like what
Ilhan Omar is referring
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in Colorado who was trying to
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I'll tell you why they're going to fail because even though you've got the complete people in the bag for him like Clarence Thomas Sam Alito,
clearly John Roberts, who we heard in passing Trump referred to during the State of Union,
when he talked about voter ID, said, we got to do something, John, we can't let it happen.
Who are you talking to? You're talking to John Roberts, but the lower courts are clearly pushing back.
I think now this is where the asset test is going to reveal that there are people, regardless
of their political affiliation, that are not going to allow this madman, this majnum, to run over
all the laws in the United States. I'm optimistic that this is just not going to
to come to pass.
Well, but here's the thing for me, Racy.
And when we were sitting here trying to warn people about this thug
being back in power, we kept trying to tell people
this is the stuff that they would try to do,
the kind of action they would try to take.
And there were a lot of black people and others saying, well, listen,
I don't think they're going to go that far.
And I'm like, guys, y'all don't understand.
These folks do not care about the law.
They do not care about the Constitution.
They care about power.
And so in this Washington Post story, you have these individuals, it's a 17 page executive order where they want to nationalize the elections.
And Peter Tickin, who Greg was talking about, he said, quote, we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes and that the president has to be able to deal with it, including by banning mail-in ballots and inserting voting machines.
Really? Are y'all serious? And so here's the problem here, Riesie. I recall the 2016 election
when intelligence services went to President Obama and Mitch McConnell and congressional leaders
and said foreign actors are trying to interfere the election. McConnell objected to Obama publicly
coming out until after the election. And Obama did. Obama should have told Mitch McConnell
to go to hell. Then, of course, we said,
saw and Trump, they say, oh, no, y'all kept saying Russia, Russia, Russia,
oh, it didn't exist, it didn't exist.
They kept trying to deflect to China and North Korea and Iran and others.
And so then you had a Senate report that actually detailed foreign interference.
Senator Marco Rubio was one of the people who was on the panel where they wrote the report.
He becomes Secretary of State and act like their report never even existed.
These people are liars.
they do not care about the Constitution
and I'm telling you
they are going to try to make this thing happen
this is not a bluff
they will try to make it happen
because if they can get away
with stealing the election
they absolutely will try
well yeah
Donald Trump ran and he said
just vote for me and you'll never have to vote for me again
that's what he said
oh no not
can you hear me
yeah
okay yeah maybe
maybe Havreling can't hear me
but uh
okay guys guys
Guys, Reese, hold on one second.
Guys, Reese is, Risi, hold on.
Risi's talking, guys, I can't hear her.
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Go.
Well, so Donald Trump, when he ran in 2024,
he told an audience,
just vote for me once.
You'll never have to vote again.
And so he's already stated
what the intentions are, is to lie, cheat, and steal.
Every single accusation from this administration is a confession.
And so should we be able to successfully make it through the midterms without them lying, cheating, and stealing to the point to where they hold the majority, the first order of business of Democrats needs to be to investigate the 2024 elections.
Because if you're saying that it's possible that it happened in the 2020 elections, then God damn and I guess it's possible that it happened in 2024 as well.
Because what the hell would stop them if they didn't want Donald Trump's ass in there,
Why is he sitting in there right now?
Or maybe other people like Vladimir Putin or other actors did want Donald Trump in here.
And that's why he's sitting in office.
And so we can't just disregard what they're saying because usually they're doing the exact same things they're accusing the other side of dealing.
And so this is really important.
And it is a pretext that they're using to try to steal these elections.
And I also add, I remember when Andrew Gillum ran in 2020, no, I guess it was 2018.
And there was a pretty sure it was a black woman in Miami.
date who talked about election
interference in that race.
And so that was never investigated because
unfortunately, Democrats are too busy
half the time. And I know that he wasn't
president, you know, Democrats weren't
president then, but Democrats have
taken the posture
that what Donald Trump is saying
isn't even possible because
they want to try to
engender faith in the election
system. Clearly there are some
vulnerabilities here, but I have every
single bit of assurance.
that any vulnerabilities are being exploited by Republicans
for the benefit of Republicans.
So what we need to know is that we have to get far beyond cheating distance.
Whatever they do, we have to come back 10 times harder
so that it is impossible to deny the will of the American people.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, what has to happen, Greg, I think about the movie,
Remember the Titans, it said,
Herman, leave no doubt.
I mean, we have to, we have to, who do we have on a show the other day?
I guess, I think it was Reverend, well, I think it was Congressman Jonathan Jackson
talking about his dad.
He said, we have to overwhelm the voting polls.
I mean, we have to, we have to make it so hard for these folks to cheat.
They'd be like, damn, we're going to have to flip 100, 200, 300,000,000 votes.
We got to put pressure on these folks, and this is no moment if people sit out.
I mean, we say this all the time.
I've been seeing these videos of some of these simple signments talking about,
oh, I didn't vote for Kamala Harris,
I didn't vote for Trump because I didn't hear an agenda on police brutality.
That's a lie.
Didn't hear an agenda on economics.
That's a lie.
And I'm telling you, what these people want to do, they want to steal it.
This calorie decision, we're going to talk coming up next what's happening in Mississippi.
They absolutely want to invalidate state races, state senate, state representative races,
congressional races.
people need to understand if there's a national emergency, it is a national black emergency.
Black people need to understand that there is an all-out assault to completely roll us back
to pre-1964 Civil Rights Act, 65 voting rights act, 68 Fair Housing Act days.
And if these Republicans had their way, they would undo, and we already know they're trying to challenge the 14th Amendment,
they will undo the three reconstruction amendments that were passed by the radical Republicans.
You're absolutely right, Roland.
Of course, there are unintended consequences.
There always are unintended consequences.
In this case, the Constitution is crystal clear.
The President of the United States has no authority to interfere in federal elections at the state level.
We know, of course, that this draft executive order, which has been kicked.
around since maybe July, according to this early reporting, we know that it does not have the force of law.
It can be ignored.
The Colorado Attorney General has already said, we will fight them, but it's really almost not necessary to fight them in court
because the courts have shown very clearly that they have rejected similar attempts.
There's no statutory authority.
There's just no way for them to do it.
If, however, to your point, they do not only attempt this, but figure out how to bring it off,
then of course the other prong becomes the prong that we should already, and recently you've already said it, we should already be practicing, which is to literally overwhelm them.
As for the chattering class, the talking heads, the YouTubeians, and others who are talking silly, maybe they're on the payroll, maybe they're not, the bottom line is this, we will overwhelm you as well.
And in overwhelming you, we will use you as the barometer through which we show other black people and everyone else that this is what weaponized ignorance looks like.
We're not going to debate you.
We're not going to show you the other side.
We're simply going to say you are a tool of white supremacy.
And people are going to lose friendships.
Well, guess what?
Your political backs need to be broken.
The unintended consequence, however, is let's just say that they succeed on all fronts.
And this looks more like Turkey.
Or this looks more like Iran or somewhere where there are elections,
but one candidate wins 90% of the vote.
And white supremacy reigns.
Well, you know what comes next?
Look at American history.
There will be a fight.
The only question becomes, you want to do it in the ballot box,
but do you want to do it in the street?
But either way, this white supremacy is on its last legs, and it's behaving that way.
They're desperate, and it's showing.
Yeah, they're absolutely desperate.
Because, yeah, go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say, you know, to your point, Dr. Carr,
Democratic governors and AG should be coming out and saying, this is not worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass on.
And we will not, and under any circumstances comply with it.
That's right.
Fuck suing.
Fuck going to court.
You may not have to go to court.
It's illegal.
And so at a certain point, we have to get to the point where we, the Democrats that are in charge, just absolutely refuse to comply with illegal orders.
That's right.
The same way that businesses don't comply when Donald Trump says you can't buy houses or you can't, or what are these?
He said he was going to do an executive order over interest rates.
The same way that everybody else ignores Donald Trump's dumb ass when he puts these toothless executive orders out, I would like to start seeing some Democrats do the same way.
as well. It don't always have to come to a lawsuit.
Why don't we try that? Why don't we
try forcing the administration to sue
you into complying with something that's
illegal as opposed to complying
with it and then suing them so that you don't have to
comply? That's right.
Yeah, I think right now
I dare say, to your point,
Democratic governors,
Democratic Attorney Generals,
Democratic election
officials, county commissioners,
there should be an all out
assault of hell no
Hell no, we will fight you to the end if you're trying to pull this here.
They have to raise the bar.
Turn this thing into a major thing because, see, again, what Trump likes to do is he wants to throw three or four or five different things.
Oh, we're going to attack Iran.
They're going to slip this in and this and this and national media, national white media is so stupid.
They don't know how to do more than two or three damn stories at one time.
And so they get stuck on it.
And see,
and see also national white media
sees this as a game.
Oh, they really not going to do that.
They really not going to go.
No, no, hell no.
Every single time they've done that by saying,
no, they really not are going to do anything like that.
They do it.
Every single time.
And this right here, this right here,
they called it Steve Bannon.
After they lost in 2020,
Steve Bannon and Greg said,
we're going to put our people
in the local state boards,
local county boards of elections,
and the state boards of elections,
and we're going to take over the system.
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That's what folks don't understand.
And so they are going to try this.
They are going to try this.
And what I'm saying to our people, I saw this, Terrence Woodbury came out with this survey
talking about how young black men
really don't see what's happening with Trump
and somehow impacting their life.
I'm telling you right now, young black men, y'all are wrong.
Y'all are wrong.
And look, by saying, well, I'm not really feeling it,
let me be real clear.
It's a lot of stuff that you say you ain't feeling
that's actually hitting you
because, see, you have been anesthetized
by what's going on.
Oh, it's going to hit you.
I'm telling everybody watching right now,
when this right wing ideologically driven Supreme Court
rules for the state of rules in the Cali case,
when they allow those races in Louisiana
who lost before by creating the second district,
when they ruled that race cannot be considered
in the creation of districts, oh, trust me,
you're about to see the loss of black political power.
You're going to see it happen.
and you know what you're going to end up seeing?
You're going to see the budgetary impacts
of those black folks not being in power.
You're going to see the impact in education.
Oh, you're going to see it.
And so I need this generation, Greg,
to weight their asses up out of this stupor
and to understand, like, I would just, man,
I would just sit here.
The Houston Chronicle had some video,
and the video said,
four black women from Houston
discussed the 20-26 election fatigue
and the frustration of being the backbone
of a democratic part that seldom rewards their loyalty.
Listen, I feel folk on all that.
This ain't no time for no damn fatigue.
No.
And, oh, I'm tired.
Because way too many ancestors
were all so tired.
But we need to really understand.
We are sounding this alarm for a reason.
What these white supremacists want to lock in
is absolutely Jim Crow 2.0.
That's absolutely right.
And let's just be very clear.
There's a difference between power and the law, as you've said.
And we have to be very clear about this.
White commercial news entertainment media
should be at this point completely ignored
with only one exception.
And that is reporting on factual events.
Everything else, interpretation, ignore it.
Again, this station here,
young people, if you've got young people in your family,
sit them down in front of this station
and let's do that. Because we know that
when we engage with our young people, they
will respond. But we have to engage
with them and we got to do that. Just ignore
all the rest of that stuff.
Let me bring up Caleb
Adelian. He's a staff writer with the Marshall Project.
And again,
we've been talking about what's going on here.
And Caleb, you guys
have this great story
dealing in Mississippi. And it says
Mississippi's black voters braids for
Scotas to gut their political clock
clout. And you walk through how black folks in Mississippi have been winning in the courts
as relates to how they've been racially driven out of power and the courts have been ruling
in their favor. Now all of a sudden, the courts are ruling by saying, listen, multiple races
benefiting African Americans, now Mississippi is sitting going, oh, please, please, let's
hold off because when the Kelly decision comes down, we're going to be in the clear. This right
here is going to have a devastating impact on black political power in Mississippi and beyond.
Yeah, that's right, Roland. I'm glad to be on the show tonight. And the story that I've reported
is about the Mississippi Supreme Court. Mississippi elects Supreme Court justices from a series
of three different districts, one pretty much in the northern part of the state, one in the
middle of the state, and one in the southern part of the state. And there was a lawsuit brought
by black voters in Mississippi that said the districts are drawn in a way that dilutes the power
of black voters in Mississippi.
Mississippi, of course, is the blackest state in the country.
About 37 percent of our statewide population is black in Mississippi.
But right now, there is only one justice of nine on the state's Supreme Court that's black.
There's only in the state's history ever been four Supreme Court justices on the state's
state Supreme Court that have been black. All of them since 1985 and none of them have ever
served on the court at the same time. There's no black justice that's ever had a black colleague
on the Mississippi State Supreme Court. Federal District Court judge ruled last year. Yes,
the lines are drawn in a way that delutes, delutes black voting power in Mississippi. So the state
legislatures under a mandate right now, they have an opportunity to redraw these districts that would
enlarge black voters influence in the central district.
That's the central part of the state.
And, you know, they're moving, but not in too much of a hurry.
We've had some policeholder bills introduced,
and lawmakers have explicitly said, you know, we're waiting.
We're going to see if Calais comes down before we adjourned.
The legislature goes out of session for the year in April.
You know, if it gets down at the end, we'll introduce a map.
We'll do it to court.
The lower court has asked us to do.
But, you know, that doesn't mean this situation is over,
even if we get through the end of the legislative session
and lawmakers do approve a map as instructed by the lower court,
and they increase the influence of black voters in the Central District,
give them more power to potentially elect additional black Supreme Court justices.
that case is still on appeal before the Fifth Circuit. You know, Calais will be decided by June at the latest.
And, you know, when that comes down, if the Voting Rights Act is heavily weakened, then this order is heavily, you know, it's at risk on appeal.
We might never see these new maps used in an election.
and see look we just had an election in Mississippi
that reduced the Republican supermajority
and a couple of African Americans won
that was based upon a court ruling
that's right that's right so there was a different
voting rights lawsuit that attacked the composition
of our state legislative districts
and you had courts say the same thing
the legislative districts are drawn in a way that weakens black
voting power so we had special
elections that increased the number of black representatives in both the state senate and the
state house. And you're right, those races in the Senate were sufficient to break the Republican
supermajority that existed in the Senate. So right on the heels of that, we've had a different
district court, say, the state Supreme Court districts dilute black voting power, and that
judge has really indicated she's likely to order special election.
elections, but she wants to see the maps first that come out of the legislature and see if
those are maps that, you know, she'll say, you know, pass constitutional muster, pass the,
past the fault that she found in the current maps, that there's a Section 2 violation,
that's Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. So you're right. Black voters have had a string of
successes in the courts in the last couple of years bringing voting rights claims in Mississippi.
Now listen, as you were talking, talking about how they drew the lines.
I mean, bottom line is, we saw this for the longest in Alabama, and it was federal courts that rule,
listen, you're screwing over black voters.
They have to create a second opportunity district that led to the election of Congressman Chimari figures.
They fought Louisiana.
Louisiana, a third African-American, fought that.
I mean, it was like went to the Supreme Court, went back.
They tried more tricks, go back, no, no, no.
they create the second district.
They elects Congressman Cleo Fields.
And then they came up with this other,
oh, no, let's another way to challenge it.
And that's where the CalA decision.
I'm sorry, the CalA case comes from.
And so what we have seen,
we have consistently seen white Republicans all across the South
used the, use the pen to screw black voters in so many different races.
And without Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act,
Without that, we're not going to see any sort of protection.
And frankly, based upon those oral arguments, this Roberts led court, guess what?
They got the votes to wipe it out.
And we are going to see a massive rollback of black political power when that action decision comes down.
I don't know of any, I've not talked to any black lawyers or constitutional experts who think that somehow we're going to be able to win this case.
upon the questions that were being asked in oral arguments.
Yeah, that's definitely the mood among, you know,
variety of legal observers and response to those oral arguments in the Calais case.
You know, virtually all of the conservative justices and oral arguments seemed, you know,
skeptical at best about the current, about the current legal framework.
You know, there's still a kind of a question around the range of possibilities, you know,
at the most extreme.
could see a decision that just outright strikes down Section 2 as unconstitutional.
You know, there are other ways the court could probably attack the current framework
while technically leaving Section 2 intact, but the end result very likely to look the same
in either respect. One, that going forward it's much harder, if not just outright and
impossible to win cases of the kind that we've seen black voters winning in Mississippi
recently.
And then at the more extreme end, depending on what happens in the decision in Calais, we could
actually see either lawsuits from white voters, like we're seeing in Calais, trying to attack
a minority majority or opportunity districts that already exist, or we could see an expansion
of this mid-cycle redistricting that we're seeing right now,
this redistricting war in places like Texas, California,
and now potentially Florida and other states trying to get in.
Other states have gotten in on it.
You know, if Section 2 falls, you know,
it's not clear how many states or how fast they could move,
depending on when Calais comes down,
it might not be in time for this year's elections,
this year's midterms, but we can definitely see
southern states eliminate currently existing,
black majority districts like the district in Mississippi that's represented by Representative
Vinnie Thompson. So we could see many of those opportunity districts across the South that are
currently held by black, black representatives redrawn and eliminated. All right then. Caleb,
great reporting with the Marshall Project. Thanks a lot. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
Real quick, going back to Greg and Recy. Again, we keep trying to tell folk they've got to pay attention
to all of this stuff because
all of these things are moving all
the same time, Recy. So you've got the
Supreme Court action, you've got what Trump
they're doing, you got what's happening in the states,
you've got Florida trying to redistrict,
you got those weak-ass
Democrats in Maryland who
didn't want to move. I mean, again,
this is what drives
me crazy about soft,
weak, impotent-ass Democrats
who don't understand what's going on.
The other side is playing for keeps.
They plan for power. You
can't sit here and say, well, no, we're going to do
things a certain way in the right way.
They don't give a damn. This is
where you got to have a whole
bunch of Louise Lucases in
every state saying, we're going to
swing, let's swing.
Well, yeah, but people don't want
black women in charge. I mean,
that's the problem.
Y'all want
shit to be better, but you don't want
the motherfuckers that's going to fight tooth and now
for it, because she cussed
too much, or she, where I
long eyelashes or whatever hell stupid-ass
things y'all come up with or she got
too she got annoying laugh whatever
so you know
this is what we get
when we deal in the superficial
when we deal in stupidity
as opposed to dealing with people that really
are about that life but what I will
say is
when the reason why I don't call
this Jim Crow 2.0 I call it
Trump Crow is because
when these black districts get taken away
and when black voter
power gets diluted. Guess what?
Your white ass can kiss your Medicaid goodbye. You can kiss your
snap goodbye. You can kiss your Section 8
goodbye. You can kiss your Social Security goodbye.
You can kiss your workers' rights and protections goodbye.
You can kiss every civil rights advancement goodbye.
Because we got that. We got that through blood, sweat, and tears, and we keep it
because we vote. We are the conscience of the
American electorate. And so diluting our
power is going to make your life more fucked up whether you realize it or goddamn not.
Greg, if folk out there are saying, hey man, this ain't going to really impact me.
I want everybody to be on record.
We are on record right here at 6.37 p.m. Eastern on February 26, 20206, 2006.
We're going to say a big ass, we hashtag we tried to tell you.
We are.
it's going to be necessary to do.
Holly Greenwald and says sometimes movements skip a generation.
In this case, maybe two generations.
And as we heard the good brother Damon Hewitt say on Tuesday night in the state of our union,
Damon said, things are going to get worse before they get better.
In the case of Mississippi, let's say that the Calais case, in fact, does kick the teeth out of Section 2 of the Civil Rights Act.
That means the lawyers are going to go back and try to preserve some of the,
salvage some of Judge Acox's opinion on new legal grounds.
They're going to push to try to maybe get those adopted maps.
Maybe they will fail. But here's the end game, seems to me.
When folks like Latasha Brown or Cliff or April Albright say that we must
emphasize the South, I agree with that. And I'll add this.
We must emphasize the cities. This should be no supermajority white nationalist
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Maybe they will have a white nationalist majority in those states, and I'm not at all sure of that,
because I don't even trust Mississippi as low as 37% black.
I'd say at least 40% or more.
But either way, we can stop them from running through at the state level these supermajority bills and legislation.
Now, Atlanta, Jackson, Mississippi, Birmingham, New Orleans, you name it, go through the South.
Charlotte, you go through the South.
these cities are not white nationalist cities.
Even as they can hamstring them at the state level when it comes to funding,
and even if they continue to capture the federal legislature in terms of funding,
the cities then become our place where we push back and where we consolidate power.
It does, however, finally have to be based on this.
When the white nationals have shown you who they are, you must treat them as what they are,
enemies of our common humanity.
There will be no consensus.
There will be no attempt to wrangle some form of,
of crossing the aisle.
No, now it is an all-out war,
and we control the cities.
At that point,
let these rural whites
who decide that they're going to vote
against their interests
because they want to embrace
their white supremacy,
let them eat it.
And let's engage in colorblind constitutionalism,
as Derek Bell would call it,
in the cities.
We're just giving out contracts
based on the majority
of the people in the city.
We're just doing that,
and guess what,
if you control the mayor,
if you control the city council,
even if they try to starve you
at the state level, you still have considerable power.
And then this next generation, not these young people now, perhaps,
will continue to run up and down and chase balls for the SEC or anything.
But the next generation, when it gets bad enough,
oh, the pushback will happen, and guess what?
At that point, I don't know what happens to the United States of America,
but I suspect we will be just fine.
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Folks, we're up on top of the show with a live feed of In Repose,
Reverend Jesse Jackson, Senior, at Rainbow Push.
That is still going on.
You see right there.
Family is greeting folks there.
My guest today is Melody Span Cooper, owner WVON Radio,
the only black-owned radio station in Chicago,
has known Reverend Jackson, the family four years.
very, very long time. Of course, her father, Purvisband, also prior to that owning the station as well.
Melanie, I swear so, your daddy owned it, you owned it, but a lot of times Reverend Jackson acted like he owned WVOLN.
Yeah, he was a major shareholder in it, right? He did. Inrolling, you can recall, during the time that you were there.
there were two people who I would always tell you guys, I don't care when they call, let them in.
One didn't take a lot of advantage of it.
The other one took a lot advantage of it.
And that was, of course, Minister Farrakhan and Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson.
He will be greatly missed.
And, you know, for the last two or three years, you know, us not getting those calls every day,
him wanting to come on to discuss whatever it is.
he wanted to talk about, you know, it just shows how much for granted we took those times at a time like this.
Yep.
And the thing is that, and this is what I try to explain to people, because yet he would call when I was a WVLN, when I ran Chicago Defender,
Reverend would call about a story that I wasn't even working on, that he would want to turn into a story.
but the thing that people need to understand
and I don't know
I don't know anybody else
in my career
who understood
the value of black on media
he understood
in black newspapers
black magazines
black radio
and it's a lot of politicians
and a lot of activists
they love the mainstream media
lights and attention. Reverend did that, but he understood you always talk to your people in
Black on media. He really did and respected it. That's why we're there. We've been there since 7 a.m.
this morning. We will be there all day today, all day tomorrow. We're going all the way with Reverend
because he wouldn't have it any other way, rolling. You're absolutely right. And what I loved about him is,
you know, Reverend changed a lot of trajectory for these businessmen, a lot of black businessmen in corporate America.
He never stopped talking about black media when he went there, black-owned media and the importance of supporting it.
So no matter how global he got, how big he got, he always remembered local.
You know, the world turned green and global. He always was black and local.
And that's a benefit because when you reach the amount of people that Reverend reached and touched,
it was great that he took us with him and made people respect us.
You know, he didn't put the major networks ahead of us.
He wanted us in the room.
And when he was in the room with people who could make a difference for us, he talked us up.
And we will miss him.
I don't know if anybody even coming behind him, that.
carries that mantra for us.
You do it, of course, right?
I do it, but someone who's not directly engaged with us.
I don't know if there's a replacement for that.
Well, I mean, I remember, in the worst for that, there isn't.
I mean, I'm just being straight up.
I mean, I remember having this very conversation on WBON.
I remember saying to the audience, and you're talking about,
that was 2006, 2007, 2007, 2008.
I was like, y'all, I'm like black people, I'm telling y'all right now,
and y'all don't want to hear it, but there is nobody who is on the level of Reverend Jackson.
And I would often say, I'm telling y'all right now, y'all can act like I'm wrong,
but I said, black America has no idea how we will rule the day when Reverend Jesse Jackson,
is not on the scene. And because of Parkinson's,
even though he was still with us,
because he did not have the voice and the stamina,
we actually see it. We felt it.
And people thought I'm like, people are, man, you're just saying that?
I'm like, no, no, no. I'm like, y'all don't understand.
And what I said before, when we hit our fort, the night,
the night he passed, I said, I think part of the problem in the middle of the,
you alluded to it. That because he was,
ever present.
I'm nipotent, always, always on the scene.
We absolutely took for granted his presence.
And I said, we going, I said, we going to feel it when times get tough because it's going to be like,
yo, who, who has not only the intellect, but the health and the stature to be able to command
the attention of the folk on the other side of the table?
you are absolutely right roland and i know you've been showing it all day but if you could see the lines
in chicago to come and pay tribute to him uh it's so touching because i remember reverend going to
uh different boycotts in chicago you know it didn't take much to get reverend to support
uh or stand up for you right if if no matter how big the cause reverend was going to be there and to see
people turn out all day the way that they've turned out. It's just been amazing. And I was thinking as I was
watching it early, I was like, we could have only turned out in life for him that way. You know,
and that's what happens. I remember I interviewed Reverend in 2013 right around the 50th anniversary
of the I Have a Dream speech. And we talked about at the end of Dr. King's life how, you know,
there weren't a lot of followers for him.
And Reverend talked about how that happens in life.
And then when they pass, they become martyrs.
They almost become martyrs, right?
And how we take the presence of such powerful men so for granted when they walk amongst us.
And so we're experiencing that now.
But to see his eloquent children, these six vessels are just so amazing.
how they have stood up and represented him over the last week,
and I'm sure until the next week.
That's his true legacy.
And so with those six dynamic young people,
I think we will be okay.
Yeah.
And before I go to my panel, before I go to Greg and Risi,
it's real simple, y'all.
It's called doing the work.
This is not about the difference between,
and then again, I just think people,
I remember a lot of the comment, man,
every time you see him, he on television, he just on the radio.
No, no, no, no.
It's called the work.
He was doing the work.
Too many people really do not understand the intellect of Reverend Jackson,
when the ability to recall facts and figures,
the ability to be able to connect the dots and all of that.
And when you talk about, you know, putting folk out the pasture,
I mean, I don't say it, listen, a lot of people were pissed off.
when Obama got elected
and comments Reverend May
and I remember having him on the air
and when even
I went off on him.
And I was like, look, now damn it,
I'm going to agree with you
and I'm going to disagree with you.
But what happened was...
You and Reverend were so funny rolling.
You and Reverend were something else together.
Some days you all were on the same page
and the days that you weren't.
Oh, goodness. Right?
but that speaks to the integrity that you have to, you know, to stand up to a man that powerful, most people wouldn't, you know, and you would challenge Reverend, but it was in love. It was always in love.
Absolutely. And see, when Obama gets elected, and I remember this vividly, a lot of people, I'm talking about a lot of black people would not bring Reverend on their shows. They would not.
listening to what he had to say.
And when he went after Silicon Valley,
and I remember him calling me
and had my TV one show
and I was on Tom Joyner
and he was calling and I said,
and I understood what Reverend was doing.
And folk were like, man, I'm with Reverend sit down.
I'm like, do y'all understand?
What are you talking about?
And he was the one,
we're talking about 10, 11, 12
who really began to jam up Silicon Valley
to force them to honor their commitments.
And we were talking about this.
So this was pre-George Floyd's murder in 2020.
He was forcing Apple, Facebook, Google, to really hire and commit to doing things with African-Americans.
And, again, a lot of black folks wouldn't put them on.
And I said, Reverend, I'm going to put you on every week because the issue matters.
And that was my point.
We have to learn that we may have disagreements about certain things.
It can't be personal.
When the interests of black people already placed, the interests come, the mission comes before
folk personal feelings.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And the thing that people have to really respect about Reverend was he wasn't afraid.
Roland, he never was afraid of the fight.
I think about Nike, if you recall when he challenged Nike.
I can just
When I was a kid here in Chicago
There was a food chain call A&P
And they were many stores
Throughout our community
And they were selling rancid meat
Reverend shut them down
He just
If the cause was not
On the side of what he believed
was right for our people
He was willing to take it up
Big or small
And I don't know how you feel that void
In 2026
I just don't know how you do it
maybe you don't.
Maybe it's time for all of us to stand up.
Those of us with voices, those of us who have the acumen and the power.
And go in these boardrooms and go wherever the cause is and, you know, do it in respect and honor of him.
Because he did leave the blueprint.
Questions from the panel.
Risa, you first.
Oh, thank you for sharing your insights and your, in your,
in your relationship.
You know, one thing that we've seen in Reverend Jackson with his people's platform and his
presidential campaign was revolutionary and incredibly progressive.
But what we've seen in progressive movements more recently is try to pivot away from the idea
that race specifically is something that should be tackled in our politics and not just class.
So can you talk a little bit about?
Reverend Jackson's intersectionality around race and class.
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That's a great question.
You know, Reverend, I don't know if you've ever heard him refer to as the country preacher.
Reverend came from the South.
Never left that.
Never lost that sense of connectivity to poor people, to the underserved.
And although, you know, his journey took him.
and globally across the board, internationally, into corporate America.
Reverend's love, I recall, just in the last 10 years, he would do his conventions in Chicago.
Reverend put a tent outside.
And we were all like, why is Reverend got this tent outside?
He was harping back to a time when Dr. King, when they did the poor people's campaign.
Now, probably nobody on this panel lived back when they did the poor people's campaign, but he stayed connected to that.
He stayed connected to people who you would think as he had moved forward he might have moved away from, never that.
And I think that's what made him so special.
The simple things, the way he walked around Chicago in stores and in restaurants.
and with children.
I remember when we moved to the South Loop,
and there's a nursery school in the building.
And Reverend came out, and many of the parents was like,
oh, my God, that's Reverend Jackson.
And he was like, you know, come let the kids take a picture with me.
This has been in the last eight years.
So it is so much the fiber of who he was authentically.
He never left it.
And I think that.
That is, and very few people can move across spectrums like that.
Reverend was one that could.
Rob Blagovic, who was the former governor of Illinois, was on earlier this year and talked about when they went to Serbia.
And you remember that, Roland?
And he brought back some hostages.
And he talked about Reverend's ability to negotiate at a level that he had never experienced or never seen.
imagine that Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson
and the Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson
who was on 50th in Drexel for the last 60 years, right,
working with people in the community.
It's just been magical to watch him
be able to navigate those worlds like that
and do it so authentically.
So yeah, that's how I would kind of explain that.
Great.
Thank you.
Thank you, Roland.
And thank you, Sister Melody, for all your years and all your family's years of service to our community.
Black-owned media is defined in many ways by the voice of the Negro.
And that's really what I want to ask you about, not just Jesse Jackson's influence,
but your family's influence in WVOLN.
I'm thinking about interviews that I've watched with History Makers.
I know you've done one with my friend Larry Crowe, but Cecil Hale talking about how it was WVOM that kind of gives him
that nickname puts the floor under him
with the black expos
and covering him in Cicero,
mentioning his name and all the news stories
and your father, of course,
it had been his great, perverse fan, talking about
being on the air, 87
straight hours raising money for Martin Luther King,
and then when Jesse comes with Operation Breadbasket,
doing the same thing. Could you talk a little bit about how
WV-O-N plays a role in the development
of the Jesse Jackson that the rest of the world now knows?
And thank you. That's so awesome.
Thank you so much for asking that.
Now, Chicago is very fortunate to have a station like WVOM,
who's called letters for the voice of the Negro.
And as we've evolved as a people, of course, we now call it the voice of a nation.
But one of the reasons why Chicago has a Jesse Jackson
and at the level of prominence that he's been, you think about,
we're on our fourth African-American mayor in Chicago,
first black female U.S. senator, a president of the United States,
is because of really black-owned black press.
Think about the Chicago Defender.
You think about what we do at V-O-N.
You think about the Black Star network that Roland has built.
We're agitators.
We're activists and we're agitating.
So we've got wonderful audiences
and they may not be the size of CNNs or something like that,
but our ability to make a difference among our people
and to get them movement.
We start the movement.
We're a movement radio station,
and I think that is what mailed us to Reverend Jackson
when he got to the assignment to come to Chicago from Dr. King,
and it's always been that way.
You know, Dr. King, V-O-N was Dr. King's pulpit.
He used Chicago because there were so many black people,
folks that it moved there, one million strong back in 1966-67.
And he moved to Chicago because he knew it was a great platform to show the world the disconnect
between the economics of black folks and the rest of America.
And so every since then, I mean, that, I think our footprint has been in so many different
things.
I was at a church last night talking about it for Black History Month, the importance of
of this and markets that have stations that are hyper-local, connected to community, community-centric,
are more progressive markets, if you look at it, or they should be across the board.
And markets that are not progressive is because they don't have somebody there that speak in truth
to power and waking up the community and saying, hey, we are powerful, let's go.
And that's what VON has been to Black Chicago.
and why Black Chicago has been the first in so many different things.
Roland will tell you Barack Obama, when he first began and wanted to run for state senator,
he did talk shows at No-N.
He was a regular call at the WVO-N.
The black community got to know him in a very wide way because of that radio station.
And he's never forgotten that.
Thank you.
And this is why I, to this day, I have said directly to black United States senators.
I've said this to black preachers and to other folks who are activists.
You can chase the New York Times.
You can chase CNN.
You can love MSNBC.
You can go to all those places.
But if you ain't got a base of black people and if you ain't going to,
to black radio and you're not talking to black digital operations and talking to black
newspapers, you're going to find out what's going to happen when you try to go higher.
And I tell these folks, I'm like, I don't care.
I remember that was a, um, during the Black Lives Matter movement, that was this one group
and they came out with this big old plan and they gave the embargo to the New York Times.
And I cussed their ass out.
I said, how y'all got a plan that's sitting around black people?
and you take that shit to the New York Times,
I said,
but then you won't bring your ass on Tom Jordan a morning show
and TV One and Black Radio.
And you know what happened?
They're playing didn't go anywhere.
I'm telling you right now,
I told Kamala Harris and Corey Booker,
I said, y'all ran for president,
y'all made no effort to build a black base
by doing black radio and black media.
so when they ran
folks didn't know who you were
yeah
I got one better for you Roland
I keep telling you
you want to hear the new one
imagine black history
mom oh yeah
and we don't get a dollar
and I'm watching
black history programs
on these big O&O stations
brought to you by Toyota
brought to
they'll pay white folks
for our culture, but won't invest with us on our culture.
That's how crazy this has got now.
And the problem that we have, and the problem that we have today is that, and if we really want to be honest, with Reverend Jackson,
because of what happened with Parkinson's, and now being deceased, we do not have,
a major civil rights voice who is making black,
Reverend Sharp is doing some, but I'm talking about, again,
I'm speaking on Reverend Jackson's level,
who was understood, understood this,
and would literally say,
I'm going to organize these meetings with these very companies
and walk in saying,
how are you funding these projects over here,
but not over here?
And that's what I told black,
I kept saying to black people,
You've got to have freedom fighters on the national level who are speaking up for black economics,
who have the personal capacity and the power to be able to affect change.
And black America had better understand we're going to miss this.
And if there was never a time with the anti-DI efforts,
and I'm telling you all right, there ain't no black on media outlet not being impacted.
I know black newspapers that have lost 80% of their funding in the last year.
And so with Trump there for the next three years in the attacks, if there was ever a moment,
and I'm here at the NWACP Image Awards, if there was ever a moment for black civil rights groups,
that's talking to you, Derek Johnson, NWACP,
Mariel National Urban League, Reverend Al Sharpton,
I'm talking about, and then other groups,
If there was every moment, Samantha Tweedy, Black Economic Alliance,
Global Black Economic Forum, Alfonso Marsh,
if there was ever a moment, this is the moment to step up and say,
we are going to answer that call to further the action,
going from Reverend Leon Sullivan to MLK morphs into Operation Breadbasket,
Reverend Jackson morphs into push,
and then now we're wearing 2026.
Because if you ain't got black folks nationally
fighting for black economic inclusion,
then you can guarantee we will be left out of this economic pie.
Meldy, always a pleasure.
I appreciate it.
My team will be in Chicago next week.
We shall cross pass.
I will see you there.
I'm in Atlanta right now.
My aunt passed, and I've been in traffic all day.
How do people live here?
Anywho, I will see you next week.
in the shy looking forward to it absolutely all right condosures to the family and look
forward to see you next week thank you so very much all right folks uh listen Greg is
going to take over the show for me from here um I got to run and go do some stuff um but um
that point right there I'm telling y'all I'm telling y'all listen I had this conversation
when I was getting a bite to eat earlier y'all if there was a moment
where black people are going to have to circle the wagons, it is now.
Y'all heard me say a year ago that there's a massive effort to defund black America.
I cannot yell this louder from the rafters that what we are seeing is an attack on every facet of black America.
These people, I came across this clip, I think I sent into the control room, and I'm going to deal with this here.
There was this Negro preacher, this sorry, lame-ass Negro preacher who literally said from the pulpit that the demise of the black family began with the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
And I replied on Twitter, I said, you dumbass, that was a public accommodations bill.
That was a bill that dealt with us being able.
able to stay in hotels and travel, interstate travel on buses and all sort of different things.
But why do I find that ignorant Negro preacher to be so wrong?
Because that's the same language that the white supremacists are using because they have been saying
that Black America, or that America, the downfall of America, began with the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
And so I need black folks watching to understand.
And I know Greg and Reese are going to talk about this Pennsylvania,
what they're trying to do there with this major and some other stuff.
But I need people watching and listen to understand.
What we are witnessing is white conservative anger at black progress, at black success.
And so their sights are absolutely on a 64 Civil Rights Act,
the 65 Voting Rights Act.
The 68 Fair Housing Act.
Donald Trump is using a Negro in Scott Turner
to undermine the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
They have no desire to investigate police officers
who shoot, kill, beat, and maim black people.
They have no desire for a HUD to investigate racism and discrimination.
They have no desire for the Department of Commerce
to investigate discrimination when it comes to Wall Street
and other companies.
You're not going to see a strong,
SEC. You're not going to, they are already destroying the EPA and environmental justice.
Folks, there's a bull's eye on the target of every black person in this country.
And we had better wake up to what's going on because it is real.
The attacks are real. And repercussions are going to be real.
And that's why voting matters. But voting is just one part of the process. This is a moment
where we've got to be taken to the streets,
organized and mobilized,
putting pressure on systems.
This is not a time for us to say that we are tired.
This is not a time for us to be saying,
oh, I want to sit this one out
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and our children and grandchildren
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Star Network. The con Trump is escalating his so-called war on fraud, freezing more than $250
million in Medicaid funding to Minnesota. Junior Varsity Vance, J.D. Vance, says the payments
will remain paused until the state submits an anti-fraud plan that the administration
considers acceptable. Minnesota is the first state targeted, and officials say others
could follow. Of course they do. The move comes a day after Trump vowed in his
so-called state of the union to crack down on fraud in federal programs.
Probably the first thing he needs to do is give all the money that he and his Trump crime
family are taking out of our pockets back to the government.
The administration is freezing new Medicaid payments to companies supplying durable
Medicaid, medical, rather, equipment while it investigates suspected fraud.
Governor Tim Walls is calling the Medicaid freeze political retaliation and warning it could
impact vulnerable residents.
to explain how this freezing of funds will impact those who need help
is Atomika Meadows, author, the CEO of Health Tech for Medicaid.
Welcome to Roland Martin Unfiltered, Sister Arthur,
and please walk us through how this is going to impact us in real time.
Yes, well, I'm just in Minnesota today,
just landed just an hour or so ago,
and what's happening in Minnesota is significant
because Medicaid is a state and federal partnership.
So the federal government kind of reimburses states
for services that are already delivered.
So this is not getting money ahead of time.
This is you've already delivered those services
and you're waiting for your payment.
It's a little bit like you going to work,
working all of your hours, and then waiting for your paycheck.
In this case, CMS or the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services is temporarily withholding not just $2509 million in reimbursements.
While there are alleging concerns about fraud and fraud oversight, this is really unusual, both in scale and in posture.
And it raises real questions that we're concerned about, about enforcement, about state and federal balance, and about how quickly providers get paid directly.
You know, I think that, you know, when federal payments are paused, and we saw this twice last year, we had never seen this before where, you know, people did not get paid for Medicaid, the immediate pressure falls really on the state budget and on the health care providers, on the health care systems.
That's hospitals, that's clinics, that's behavioral health providers, that's independent doctors, that's transportation services, who they already operate on.
very tight margins. I was a hospital leader for about 16 years in this country, and we deeply rely on
Medicaid. Children's hospitals, like so much of their budget is reliant on Medicaid. So the larger
issue is not just fraud enforcement, but because I think all of us agree that Medicaid integrity
matters. We all want to have a safe, and we want all of our federal dollars to be spent well.
I don't think anybody's denying that.
The question now is really how is enforcement handled?
And how CMS is going to be working with states through these audits,
especially since we've really not had a lot of these audits and correction plans in this way,
how withholding federal dollars of this scale and size represents a bigger federal posture.
It's pretty authoritative.
It's very concerning.
Could we talk a little bit about how they have failed so far to actually carry out these cuts?
We know that it has been blue states, Minnesota, New York, California, Illinois, Colorado.
The federal judge is blocking most of these efforts.
We send them attempt to withhold funding for food stamps.
The federal judge block that.
HHS tried to freeze $10 billion in funding for child care subsidies.
a federal judge block that.
I'm sure that you all will be in court around this.
Could you walk us through what you expect,
whether or not this might even succeed,
given what we've seen so far coming out of the federal courts?
Well, it's a little bit complicated, right?
Because all of those different cases
had to do with different pots of money
and different funding scenarios.
This is a completely different pathway,
and it's a pathway we're not really used to getting,
of cut off, one, in that volume of money, and two, in this sort of way. So this is kind of
unprecedented in a way. I do expect there will be legislation around that, you know,
there'll be some enforcement around this. I'm certain there'll be litigation. I think what
people need to, like, understand is that Medicaid is the largest insurer of children, right?
It is the biggest payer of long-term care. It is a major source.
of disability services, right?
And you talked about durable medical equipment, right?
These are things that people need, right?
And so when funding becomes uncertain, providers, hospital systems, clinics, federally qualified
health centers, they face cash flow issues, and that can ripple outward.
Now, I don't want people to think their benefits are ending, right, or that this impacts
them personally at home.
It really impacts the systems more than it impacts them.
But if you're a small mom-and-pop, you know, provider, it'll hurt much more.
You don't have cash reserves.
You don't have, you know, 100 and 150 of days cash on hand to dip into.
People will probably have to take personal loans out.
This will impact people's lives significantly.
So as of now, I'm sure benefits will continue.
I'm certain the state has, you know, some reserves.
I'm sure other states will open up coffers.
You know, this is a blue state.
and you know, and Minnesota has just been under fire.
Let's just be real.
We have seen so many of us are really feeling the pain of the just assault on the state.
And so, but I think the prolonged deferrals or even, you know, litigation, that that could create additional strain.
I think the other thing to think about is the larger national implications of what this could mean for other states.
That's very important.
like you said, I mean, just the disruption alone.
You know, and thank you when you opened up,
you kind of put front and center the fact that nobody wants waste, fraud, abuse.
But in this case, am I wrong to say what's being reported
that there's no evidence of any of this that has been put forth by them?
Is that true?
From what we've been told, that is the case.
You know, these, you know, those of us who work in this field,
We spend a lot of time with the federal government.
I spent time on Monday with CMS representatives.
I think we're trying to be as friendly as possible.
You know, this program represents a fifth of Americans.
We really need to do our best to be at the table
and to ensure the integrity of the program
with all of the stuff on the table with HR1 happening.
We are really trying to make sure as many people as possible.
And for me, like as many brown people,
as many people of color as possible,
get access to the services that are necessary.
to keep their lives.
You know, it's a quality and duration of life issue for us.
So, you know, I know that this administration is really touting, you know, fraud waste and
abuse in every angle it can.
I just worry that it's doing it on the backs of people's lives and livelihood.
Absolutely.
If you don't mind, we're going to bring our sister, Risi Colbert, in to be in this conversation.
Risi, any questions, comments for Atomica, Meadow.
was Arthur. Thank you for being here. One of the points I try to emphasize is that these safety net
programs are not charity and how they essentially supplement people who are not on our receiving
these services, this Medicaid or Medicare or whichever, by providing a patient and revenue base
in these areas. Can you talk a little bit about how Medicaid stabilizes the consumer base or
or stabilizes the revenue base so that providers actually want to service certain areas?
Well, sure.
I mean, like I mentioned earlier, I was a hospital leader.
And, you know, many hospitals do not survive, actually, without federal dollars.
Certainly Medicaid, right?
Most hospitals rely on about 30 percent of most hospital budgets or at least Medicaid,
let alone Medicare, which is another federal program.
You know, our hospitals, and that's not even speaking of our rural hospitals with deeply
depend on our federal resources.
So not only do people in the U.S. rely on them, as you know,
most people, almost everyone over the age of 65, as they're paid into the system and
they're a citizen are eligible for Medicare and they should sign up for Medicare.
I'll tell everybody that.
So almost every hospital in the nation takes Medicare dollars and should.
And, you know, you look at, you know, children's hospitals, as I mentioned earlier, they
significantly rely on Medicaid.
So without federal dollars, we don't have, you know, our commercial base is not set up to fully,
you know, these are insured patients.
Let me just step back.
This is not charity care.
This is not money being thrown away somewhere.
This is not, these are insured patients.
They have insurance.
Can we continue this?
It's interesting now looking at health tech for Medicaid,
the formation, of course, that you found in 2018.
It looks like a very wide coalition and broad coalition of folks.
A lot of health care providers, a lot of folks looking at the fellows program that you have,
and kind of bringing another generation in to help them understand how we can intervene in this.
How important is the political process in this?
And where do you see the pressure points that can be pushed on to kind of,
maybe force this current administration to back up off of this.
And how important it's like solidarity and coalition,
because you seem to have built quite a broad one with health tech for Medicaid?
Yeah, I mean, part of the seeds for why health tech Medicaid came to be
is that we did not have an ecosystem upgirding Medicaid, right?
We also did not have a lot of power in Medicaid.
It was the largest insured population in the nation,
but we were not in capital markets.
We were not seen as a viable, investable ecosystem.
And so that's actually where it came from.
It came out of major frustration as a hospital leader
and watching Silicon Valley and all of these products and services come in
and running a delivery system and seeing a rationalization of who got innovation and who didn't.
And so that's really where it came from.
It now has grown into a very large national name.
We've got payers, providers, policymakers, entrepreneurs,
investors, advocates. But more importantly, people on Medicaid, their caregivers, family members,
who are a part of our ecosystem. We've got well over 80,000 people on our mailing list. We've got a
really great, you know, a newsletter that comes out. We try to be very informative. We're on all
of the social channels. But like you said, we are trying to train up the next level of Medicaid
leaders in this country. Medicaid still is not taught in most health policy programs in some ways,
In most medical schools, you know, most people are not, it's still shunned in some ways,
even though it's the largest insured population in the U.S.
There is a lot of stigma, partially because when these programs were started in 1965,
we called one care.
That sounds lovely.
I care for someone.
And one was called aid, and that didn't sound so great, right?
And so there is stigma behind, you know, poor people on Medicaid and, you know, older individuals
on Medicare.
And while those stigma, you know, there's not a lot of truth to that.
There's a lot of people that he would not anticipate that are on Medicaid.
One in five Americans, it's your neighbors, it's your friends, it's who you go to the grocery
store with.
It's a lot of people, even with means, they just have a disability or, you know, they have
a condition that would allow them to have those sorts of benefits.
Absolutely.
Well, I mean, ultimately, this very human problem,
that we will all face in our lives as we go through our life journeys.
Certainly, it's unavoidable, and thank you for doing the work that you're doing.
It's ht4m.org for people to get involved, sign up the database, donate, and continue this work.
We've seen what happens when people fight back, certainly in Minnesota, so I don't expect that this will be any different.
Atomica Meadows, author, CEO of...
I'm here on the ground today doing the same work, so I just landed.
and rolling up my sleeves in this very cold environment, getting to work.
No, there's no doubt about it.
Yeah, and thank you for joining us tonight, because like you say,
clearly you just landed because you found a corner and said,
let me get involved in this work, and please come back, keep us updated.
Minnesota has become, in many ways, the tip of the spear,
and we wouldn't expect anything less,
and certainly we're going to support you here at Black Star Network.
Thank you, Sister Adamika Meadows, Arthur, and we'll talk with you again soon.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Yes, ma'am.
You're watching.
Dr. Carr, can I interject something?
Oh, yeah, please. Oh, yeah, please.
Yeah, of course.
Come on. Yeah.
Yeah, I just wanted to bring up, you know,
there's been so much talk about Minnesota fraud,
Minnesota fraud, Somali fraud, et cetera, et cetera.
I just wanted to point out that what they're talking about,
the main thing they're talking about,
the hundreds of millions of dollars was a program.
And that fraud, alleged fraud, I should say,
started when Donald Trump was president.
That's number one in 2020.
And it was investigated.
and prosecuted under the Biden-Harris administration.
It was Christopher Ray, who was the FBI director at the time, who investigated it,
and it was Biden's DOJ that prosecuted these people.
And so Donald Trump touts finding this fraud as though his administration is the one that found this fraud.
His administration didn't do jack shit.
It started under his administration.
So it was actually the Democrats.
It was actually Joe Biden and his department,
or his department of justice
that discovered this and prosecuted it.
And I think that there is definitely room
to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again.
But make no mistake about it,
that fucking idiot Cash Patel,
who was too busy taking private jets
all around the world and so busy
that even Charlie Kirk's killer
couldn't have been investigated quickly enough
because Cash Patel was rolling off somewhere
in a private jet.
That's right.
He ain't find nothing like this.
They are not even competent enough
to discover the kind of fraud that they are touting that the other guys discovered.
So any kind of fraud under this administration is probably going to be balls to the walls with them under it.
And the last thing I'll say is, you know, they talk about withholding $250 million of Medicaid payments to Minnesota, which is bullshit.
But Donald Trump has pardoned criminals, criminals who are responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud, and his pardons have cost Americans.
over a billion dollars in restitution that no longer has to be paid as a result of his pardons.
And so this administration is completely full of shit when it talks about going after fraud.
He has rewarded fraudster and fraudster.
All they have to do is cut a check to a Donald Trump campaign or buy some crypto,
and Donald Trump will sign on the dotted line to let them get away with all kinds of fraud
and all kinds of illegal behavior.
That's absolutely right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Risi, for pointing that out.
And like you said, under the Biden administration in September 22,
the FBI has made the first arrests, I guess, in September.
And they said the Justice Department under the Biden administration charged 48 people with stealing 240 million for exploring child nutrition program during the pandemic.
But, of course, the money was flowing fast and free.
Ask Matt Getz and Marjorie Taylor Green about money that they got during the pandemic.
So, but yeah, thank you for making sure that we understand that this is not a new story and that it should have.
be trained on the Somalis of Minneapolis and of Minnesota, over 100,000 largest diaspora
Somalis in the world.
And you're absolutely right.
The Trump crime family, while we've been on the air, in fact, the news dropped that Netflix
is pulling back its offer after David Ellison and the Trump supporting white nationalists
of Paramount have sweetened their deal along with a lot of money from outside the country.
as Jerry Kushner and Steve Wickoff were over there trying to figure out how to shake down Iran for more money.
Apparently, the Saudis and the sovereign funds that are able to pour into Paramount have now on the verge of winning, buying CNN and buying Warner,
which means I'm canceling all subscriptions.
But at any way, I don't know why CNN anyway.
But like I say, you want to talk about money and fraud?
Yeah, you probably should look somewhere else.
So, yeah, thank you.
Thank you for making sure that we understood and understand that.
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Let's go to Philadelphia.
Let's go to Pennsylvania for a moment.
Arcadia University in Pennsylvania is now offering a minor in racism,
rather, and anti-racism studies aimed at training students in advocacy
and action against racism.
The university emphasizes its longstanding commitment to justice,
equity, diversity, and inclusion,
as well as its efforts to combat systems of anti-black racism,
as highlighted on the program's web page.
It asserts that this program is particularly important given the current political climate.
Conservative critics and think tanks have criticized curricula centered on diversity, equity,
inclusion as one-sided and dismissive of ideological diversity.
Recy, this attack on universities has been relentless.
We did get some good news out of New Hampshire a few days ago.
The American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of New Hampshire was able to go to court,
and we see this dear colleague letter,
this foolishness that came out last year,
has been completely neutralized,
so we don't have to worry about that.
But still, there's a chilling effect.
K-12 universities,
what's your sense of this continued assault on curriculum?
And in this case,
our Katie University pushing back and saying,
no, we're going with our full chest forward.
Should more schools try to follow that example?
Well, absolutely.
I mean, I love that they're doubling down
because this is an important topic.
And let me say something.
When you're looking at the conversation around this Texas Senate,
race, it's needed, okay, even from so-called allies. You've been saying soft white nationalists
for years, Dr. Carr, but it's very clear that people are not as anti-racist as they like to claim
that they are. And so, yeah, I appreciate that. And I think it just shows how absurd it was
what the court wins in particular that so many universities were just chomping at the bit to
comply in advance with the Donald Trump administration. It also showed that people did that,
because that's what they wanted to do anyway.
So the first chance that they got that permission slip to say, let's pull the rug from under these DEI programs,
let's pull the rug from all of the advancements that we've made, which, mind you, there were still massive disparities when it came to admissions for black students or even, you know, programs and things of that nature.
But the first chance that they got to take things away, they were like, sign me up.
And so I think that what has been very revealing through what this administration has tried to do is who's on our side, who's on the side of humanity, who's on the side of decency, and who is on the side of I'm going to do the bare minimum, and I'm going to provide the illusion that I really care and that I'm in this to actually move the country forward or move the needle forward until it's no longer convenient for me.
Absolutely.
Well, it's breaking news to me.
I didn't know.
I don't know, Risi.
Did you see this? Cardi B was in Texas,
and she urged her followers on Instagram
to vote next week for Jasmine Crockett over James Talarico.
Did that happen today?
You know I saw it.
I love me from Cardi.
Okay, well, break that down for us
because I'm going to go to the next story,
but I just saw that.
I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.
So, yeah, how important is that, I mean,
in the grand scheme of things,
we certainly saw Nikki Minaj over there
stumbling over her life for whatever reasons with Trump?
But, I mean, how do you interpret this?
I know young people in particular,
maybe following somebody.
You know, I'm skeptical
that it moves the needle very much.
I mean, we saw when Beto ran here,
Beyonce in her shirt,
she had a little, you know,
Beto shirt on.
We've seen celebrity endorsements
on both sides of the aisle plenty of times.
I don't think that it really makes
much of a difference.
But what it can do is
it can generate some enthusiasm.
It can make it more of an event.
And sometimes that helps get people out
is people feeling like they're a part of something.
And so I think
at a minimum, it can't hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
Gary Chambers, our good brother of Gary Chambers,
has been breaking down the numbers in Harris County, for example,
and saying, like, look, this turnout is not that great so far.
It's certainly not running ahead or not running ahead by much of prior election cycles.
And the theory of Jasmine Crocket's race or Congressman Crockett's race is that she can
activate dissolution and disaffected voters.
Now, in her defense, part of the reason why maybe they haven't been as accurate.
is because the mainstream media and the white nationalists, the soft white nationalist,
let me put it that way, have really tried to drive home this point about electability and about
only Tali Rico can win, even though white men have been losing for 30 years statewide on the
Democratic side. And so that could be partially suppressing some of the turnout because people
might feel like she can't win. And so why bother to vote? But if you are out there sitting,
your black ass on the couch thinking that I'm not going to vote because she ain't going to win anyway.
You need to get your ass up and early voting ends on Friday and then election day is on Tuesday
and you need to vote like your life depends on it because these people are counting your black
ass out.
Okay.
Let me take some.
If she does not win that primary, then you approve them fucking right.
You approve them absolutely right that they ain't gotten.
There's no point in trying to activate because that is what this woman has been out there
and she's been flying back and forth to the Capitol to do her job because she's a sitting congresswoman.
She ain't a part-time legislator, okay, and put it like that, she has a whole ass job that's full-time around the year.
If she is doing that and then coming back and she's going to nightclub, she's going to restaurant,
she's going to barns and wherever else barnstorming the whole state, then you can get up and vote.
And so I appreciate everybody that's activated.
She had Kelly Rowling the other day.
She had Cardi B today.
There's some other...
Oh, she had Metham Man.
Ooh, I saw Metham Man.
I saw her.
Okay, man.
Oh, Lord.
Okay.
I know that's right.
So I'm just saying, look, I'm going to vote anyway, but I just saying some people are probably
looking at it.
Like, okay, I know, that's right.
Let's go with Jasmine.
So even if, I'm going to say this, let's say that the turnout is not as massive,
and let's say she barely eeks out a win here.
I think, though, that being able to silence the doubters,
who do not think that black voters are worth investing in
and people who may have been tempted to be apathetic
because, well, she ain't going to win anyway.
They all in for the white man.
He was on Kobe and da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
I think that if she gets past that finish line,
kind of the same thing Obama had to deal with.
When he won Iowa, then everybody was like opening up the floodgates.
If they see that she can win in the primary, which you should help her.
That's Reese Cobra's opinion.
No.
Then maybe that can open up some floodgates for the general as well.
Indeed. I didn't realize she had Method Man down there. And in passing, we'll send out condoneses, of course, the transition of Oliver Grant, Power Grant, who's one of the founders of the Wu out of Staten Island at age 52. But I didn't realize Method Man was out there. So let's move for a moment to Chappaqua, New York, where, of course, Hillary Clinton was deposed today. And Bill Clinton will be deposed tomorrow by Comer Powell, James Comer, and his committee. The former Secretary of State, in fact, is demanding a public deposition.
that is former Secretary Hillary Clinton,
after it was paused, her deposition,
it was paused to win a Republican representative,
Bo Bo Boe, Lauren Bobert, still around, huh, Bobo,
who shared a photo of Clinton testifying
with a conservative influence,
white nationalist influencer, Benny Johnson,
who then posted it on social media.
This action, of course, violated the committee's rules
regarding depositions.
During her testimony, Clinton said
she was unaware of the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein
or Jelaine Maxwell,
Well, her husband, former Bill Clinton, as I said, is said to testify before the oversight paddle on Friday.
This would be the first time a former president has been compelled to testify before the Congress.
The Clintons had initially resisted the panel's subpoena, dismissing it as politically motivated.
They ultimately agreed to testify as the threat of potential contempt of Congress proceedings loomed over them.
I guess they lost all those other Congresspeople who would not testify, just like the politically inbred Jim Jordan of Ohio,
saw that Secretary Clinton took some questions after the deposition,
and she said, listen, you all need to release it as immediately as you can.
Representative Garcia, Robert Garcia, out of California,
called on the House Oversight Committee to release a full transcript of the deposition within 24 hours,
and Secretary Clinton said over and over again at the podium today after the deposition,
I never met Jeffrey Epstein.
I do not know Jeffrey Epstein.
Reese, break this down for us.
What are we looking at here?
Is this just straight politics as usual from this committee and James Coleman?
Of course it is.
It's politics.
It's the politics of distraction.
And it's giving people something to focus on.
Hillary Clinton has always been a lightning rod for Republicans.
But if we're going to interview First Ladies,
what about the First Lady?
Well, there ain't no more East Wing, jail.
Because Trump's just legally bulldozed.
that she's just gone. That's what she was supposed to be.
But wherever Melania is
trolloping around Marlago
or wherever she's maybe taking up space,
maybe she got a trailer on the waist on the west wing.
Why don't you haul her ass in front
of Congress? Because she's a first lady
and she's in the Epstein vows.
That's not yet. That's what I thought.
Where is her testimony at? She's more
close to connect to Jeffrey Epstein than
Hillary Clinton. Now Bill Clinton and I can't vouch for him
because his ass was all up and through there, all up in the pictures
and all kind of shit. So whatever happens to him,
child, that's not my business. And I ain't got a problem
with it, that's for the prosecutors to handle.
If you don't have nothing for prosecutors, then we ain't got to hear from them, okay?
But at terms of Hillary, why is she in it?
Why is she in it?
Why is she even involved?
What about Howard Ludnik?
What about the people in the Trump administration?
Where is their testimony?
How about where is Donald Trump's ass being hauled in front of a Congress hearing?
Because he's one of the most mentioned, if not the most mentioned people in the Epstein
files.
And so that's why this shit is a joke.
That's why this is a farce.
because there are people that are very closely connected to Epstein that are very closely connected.
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Or currently serving in the federal government under Donald Trump.
And none of those people are being hauled before Congress, whether it's behind closed doors on front.
They won't even unredact names.
They won't release all the files.
They selectively take things out of the files.
And so this is really a distraction.
what we should be seeing from Congress
is they should be voting on that war
powers resolution from
Representative Roecona and Representative
Thomas Massey to stop Donald
Trump from his march to war
with Iran without even so much as having
to present a shred of evidence
hell even fake lying evidence
we know that to just lie anyway but
at least do something and so
this is what they want our attention on
but the reality is
this administration is doing
55 fucked up things on a daily basis
that they are not being held accountable for.
That's what I'm more concerned about.
Yeah, no question about it.
Iran should be first and foremost in all of our minds right now
because you're absolutely right.
And to those of you have friends and family
on the Gerald R. Ford or anywhere else,
we're keeping you on our prayers
and we need to really, as you say, re-evaluate
where our focus is.
We have a story out of Buffalo, New York.
A refugee from Burma
has been found dead in Buffalo, New York.
Days after being released from custody
and dropped off at a coffee shop
by the U.S. Border Patrol.
Lord have mercy.
Police say,
Nauru Amin Shah Alam,
a blind father of two,
spoke limited English,
was found dead on Tuesday,
February 24th,
on Perry Street.
He had been reported missing
after his release on February 19th.
The Erie County Sheriff's Office
says Border Patrol agents
took custody of Sha Alan
after Bond was posted
on reduced charges tied to a 2025 arrest.
Customs and Border Protection says
agents gave him a, quote, courtesy ride, really, to a Tim Horton near his last known address
and that he showed no signs of distress.
The Erie County Medical Examiner ruled his death health-related with exposure and homicide ruled out.
And Co. As Buffalo, what kind of medical examiner?
Buffalo's mayor, Sean Ryan, is calling the death preventable and is demanding answers
as the investigation continues.
Here's what he had to say, Sean Ryan's statement.
And the statement is as follows.
Quote, the preventable death of Naurul Amin Shah alam is deeply disturbing and a dereliction of duty by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
A vulnerable man, nearly blind and unable to speak English, was left alone on a cold winter night with no known attempt to leave him in a safe, secure location.
That decision from U.S. Customs and Border Protection was unprofessional and inhumane.
the U.S. Customs and Border Protection must answer for how and why this happened.
Buffalo is a city that welcomes refugees and believes government should protect human dignity,
not endanger it.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection failed that basic standard, end quote.
But of course they failed that basic standard, these racist brown shirts,
pieces of men with tissue paper over the bottom of their faces behind their shrunken manhood.
Risi, this, I mean, this, I mean, this,
escalation and this war on people, particularly non-whites, I don't call them people of color.
White people have color, too.
But, you know, when is this going to end?
What do we have to do to make sure that it ends?
Well, first of all, we have to stop giving VC bill a permission slip.
That's what people did when they voted, not only for Donald Trump, but when they voted for a Republican trifecta,
Congress is, I don't want to say neutered, because that assumes there's some passive
to what's happening.
They are actively
complicit.
They are actively
actually co-conspirators
in what is happening
because we see
this administration
operating with impunity,
breaking the law
in every possible way
that you can break the law
and signing memos
and signing executive orders
that have no legal teeth
but they are empowered to do so
because who's going to check them, boo?
And so
as long as the people
that are being,
I actually, no, let me take the back.
I was going to say as long as people that are being victims,
that are victimized look like him,
then this isn't going to change.
But guess what?
How long of the story was Alex Prady and Renee Good?
That's right.
Those were two white names that I didn't even hear one time.
And Donald Trump's,
We Shall Overcome White People Awards ceremony,
also known as the State of the Union,
where he's talking about every white person that's overcome everything
and white people didn't get killed by this person,
by that legal person and all kind of shit.
Alex Pruddy and Renee Good were not talked about at all during that,
two hours.
And so it actually doesn't matter what these people who are being killed, hunted, kidnapped, trafficked, looked like because this society, whether through action, which is voting or inaction, we're just keeping your dumb ass at home, regardless of the threat that we're seeing, have given a permission slip to lawlessness, to white nationalists.
And anybody can get it.
That's why I call it Trump Girl Crow, because anybody can get it.
Not just black people, not just immigrants, not just undocumented, but anybody.
That's very true.
That's very true.
Before we go to break, we will note, and thank you, Racy, for expanding that to say society.
That is the, today is the 14th anniversary of the killing of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.
So we want to take a moment here and, of course, continue to think about Tracy Martin, Sr.
And Sabrina Fulton, of course, and particularly Sister Sabrina's done so much work.
We know that they lost their child.
you know, 14 years ago today.
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But right now, we're going to turn it over to our sister, Brittany Noble.
It's time for headlines with Brittany Noble.
$7 million after a jury found that police wrongfully raided the home of a black family.
A federal jury determined that a 2018 Chicago police raid at the Tate's family home at back-of-the-yard departments violated their civil rights.
Ebene Tade, her mother, Cynthia Easton, and her four kids, Imani, Lanaya, Legend, and Lechaya booth were at home on August 9th, 2018 when that incident occurred.
CPD SWAT team set off flashbang grenades outside the family's apartment before breaking down the door and repeatedly pointing assault rifles directly at the kids.
The four children were 13, 11, 8, and 4 years old at the time.
The jury found CPD officers guilty of acting improperly and using excessive force.
against the family. During the raid, Tate suffered a panic attack, and her mom was forced outside
in front of her neighbors in only a T-shirt and underwear. And now one of the largest payouts
from the city, the family, along with their lawyer, speak out about winning the case. They say
each child will get $1 million in damages, while Tate and Easton will each get $750,000.
The city says it disagrees with the verdict and it's exploring post-trial motions.
Well, a car chase involving federal immigration enforcement officers led to a multi-vehicle crash Wednesday in Newark, New Jersey.
Mayor Ross Barakas said on social media that ICE agents attempted to pull over a van in the state's largest city when the driver flood.
He said the ICE agents gave chase, resulting in an accident involving several vehicles, including one carrying three kids.
The driver of the van was injured and taken to the hospital.
It was not immediately clear the extent of the driver's injuries or why the person was being pursued by ICE.
Maraca said in an interview to reporters that he expects to hold agents accountable for their actions.
He also said, Newark police, were not involved with ISIS investigation and only responded to the crash.
A guest of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, Minneapolis resident Alia Rahman, was arrested by Capitol Police during the state of the Union after standing in the gallery.
She's a U.S. citizen was injured in January when federal immigration agents in Minneapolis forcibly removed her from.
car. Omar is calling for an investigation saying her guest was removed despite warning officers
about her shoulder injuries and was charged with unlawful conduct for her brief protest during the
president's speech. Rahman talks about the moments leading up to her arrest. Capital police say
that Rahman began demonstrating around 10.7 p.m. That's nearly an hour before the president
ended his remarks. And they also said that she ignored multiple requests to sit down. They go on to say it's
illegal to disrupt the Congress and demonstrate in the congressional buildings.
Colgate Palm Olive says it will ask investors to vote against a conservative shareholder
proposal to remove diversity, equity, and inclusion criteria from its board selection
process. While many companies scaled back the EI programs over the past year and political
pressure, well, Colgate is actually standing firm joining a small group of firms like Costco
and Apple and maintaining its policies. In 2025, proxy,
statement that company noted that three of its director nominees are members of underrepresented
communities singer brian mcnight is suing ricky smiley radio host karen clark and urban one for defamation
mcgnite is fighting back after he claims he was targeted by false and defamatory accusations
made by his ex-wife julie mcnight during an interview in 2025 on foxy 107.1 owned by urban
one brian says his ex-wife julie accused him of being a neglectful father
and emotionally abusive towards her and her kids.
The suit alleges that Clark amplified the accusation
without any opportunity for the singer to defend himself.
The suit says the defamatory allegations were rehashed
in December of 2025 on the Ricky Miley Morning Show podcast.
McNight says that the accusation severely damaged his career and reputation.
He's asking for $25,000 for compensation and punitive damages
and for ongoing damage to his career and reputation.
Oliver Power Grant, a founding member of the hip-hop group,
the Wu-Tang Clan, has died.
He was 52 years old.
The Staten Island-based Hip-Hop Collective confirmed his death Wednesday, February 25th,
through an ex-post.
Rest in Power, the group wrote alongside a video showing interview clips of the foundational member.
No further details were shared about Grant's cause or manner of death.
On Tuesday, February 24th, Grammy-winning rapper,
and also a founding member of the group in 1990 Method Man reported Grant's death on Instagram.
Greg?
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Brittany.
And everyone makes sure, and one of the exciting new shows that's been rolled out here at the Black Star Network,
catch the breakdown with Brittany Noble on the Black Star Network Monday through Friday at 12 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
A lot going on this weekend.
Risi, we're expecting you on Channel 126,
Serious Urban View.
We're talking powers and become the action
on Saturday, three to four, period.
The Risi COVID show.
Two to four, honey. I got two hours.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm tripping.
You know, I know better than that.
Plus, you be on with Clay, too.
So, you know, we go all Recy all the time, though,
because you've got the full spectrum covered.
So that's what I'm talking about.
Shout out to Sankofa video and books.
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and that evening, tomorrow evening at 7 p.m., there's a gala.
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Go to Sankofa.com for more on that.
So that does it for us here at Roland Martin Unfiltered.
Thanks, Roland, for letting us fly the mothership for this last hour for trusting Risi and I.
And thank everybody here.
You know, Carol Carl said, okay, getting that seat.
Yes, ma'am, you know, I got to do that.
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