#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump pardons J6 domestic terrorists: Former US Capitol cop Harry Dunn BLASTS Newfound Outrage|#FAFO

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Harry Dunn, former U.S. Capitol Police officer, delivers a passionate critique of MAGA hypocrisy, Donald Trump’s actions, and the complicity of Republican leaders like Mitch McConnell.  Dun...n sheds light on the betrayal faced by law enforcement officers during and after January 6th, urging Americans to stay vigilant as the fight for democracy continues. Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork 👉🏾 Use Cash App by visiting Stripe https://buy.stripe.com/7sI3ccgYyfSQ8y45kl 👉🏾  PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ roland@rolandsmartin.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. stars. Workers skilled through alternative routes rather than a bachelor's degree. It's time for skills to speak for themselves. Find resources for breaking through barriers at taylorpapersilling.org brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Harry Dunn, former U.S. Capitol Police officer, joins us right now. I gotta say, Harry, I know the text groups and the group chats of you and the other officers have been burning up since last night. I don't want to hear a damn word from this thug, Donald Trump, about law enforcement and police officers and back in the blue and supporting him when he pardoned these domestic terrorists. He literally called them hostages. Yeah, Roland, thanks for having me on the show.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm going to take a different approach, my friend. I've been screaming and yelling and warning, not warning people, telling people that this was going to happen for four years. So I've already been angry and sad and hurt, stabbed in the back, betrayed, all the terms you want to use. But I'll say this, if anybody is surprised that Donald Trump did this, if anybody's surprised, my question to you is, where the hell have you been? You weren't paying attention. Donald Trump is who he says he is. He did what he said he was going to do. And for people to be clutching their pearls and upset now, you had the opportunity to do something about it November the 5th. He told you what he was going to do. So yeah, I'm mad. I'm mad at the people who didn't give a damn enough to care
Starting point is 00:03:08 about the officers when Donald Trump said that we were the bad guys that day. I'm mad about the people who didn't give a damn. I'm mad about the people who claim they support law enforcement, except when it's U.S. Capitol Police officers,
Starting point is 00:03:23 except when it's the FBI, except when it's the ATF. Capitol Police officers, except when it's the FBI, except when it's the ATF. Oh, so we're going to support all law enforcement except the ones that we don't like. And you're right. Look, I was saying on this show, not in the last year, not in the last two years, but ever since those Republican senators let that thug off the hook by not convicting him when he got impeached, had they convicted him in the aftermath of January 6th, 2021, we would not be sitting here today because he would have been barred from running for office for the rest of his life. Roland, I owe that. I'm glad that you brought that point. These institutions have continually
Starting point is 00:04:05 Failed us So I was banking on the American people You know hey guys Let's show Let's stand up and do what's right Yeah so much for that right But Mitch McConnell I lay this at your feet That's right
Starting point is 00:04:18 This is Mitch McConnell's fault If you want to blame one person It's hard to blame one person You know America 20 million people stayed home and didn't vote. But one person stopped the impeachment or stopped the conviction of Donald Trump. And that's Mitch McConnell. Even though Mitch McConnell knew that Donald Trump was responsible for the actions of that day. He said it as much during his floor speech.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He said the president bears responsibility for his moral. He was wrong. He was responsible for bears responsibility for his moral, he was wrong. He was responsible for this. And look where we are now. So if any one person's to blame, I blame Mitch McConnell. Yeah, absolutely. Because Mitch McConnell,
Starting point is 00:04:55 just like Susan Collins, sat there and was like, oh, you know what, we think this is going to be the end of him. What they did not want to do, They did not want to challenge him. They did not want to correct him. Instead, it was like, let's pacify him. We think this will do it. But yeah, guess what?
Starting point is 00:05:19 The American people, they clearly the folks who voted for him, they had no problem with it. And just so the folks know, this is Mitch McConnell in February of 2022 talking about January 6th. Listen. The RNC censors of representatives Liz Chan. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
Starting point is 00:06:12 This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1. It's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Starting point is 00:06:58 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:08:29 Again, you remembered they were censured for their work on the committee. Here was Mitch McConnell a moment ago. Is it appropriate for the Republican National Committee to censure two sitting members of Congress and also use the words legitimate political discourse in talking about January 6th? Well, let me give you my view of what happened January the 6th. And we're all, we're here. We're here. We saw what happened.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next. That's what it was. With regard to the suggestion... Here's the thing, Harry. He caused a violent insurrection. But that wasn't enough to convict Donald Trump. But then he wants to deny the reality that there were members of his own Senate caucus,
Starting point is 00:09:32 Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley and others who were in on the plot to overthrow the results of the election. And they are still in power. They are still there. And that to me is also what is the most scary part. Not just that thug is two blocks from here sitting in the White House. Is that these individuals are silent, they were complicit, and those who were not there, who were newly elected, are going along to get along.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And what this should be telling everybody is all bets are off. There's no such thing as the normal. Forget being institutionalist. You have to deal with real threats the way police officers are trained to deal with real threats. Yeah. You know, the Constitution was made up to have checks and balances in it. But what happens when those checks and balances are your best friends or the people that want just like you? We're set up, like you said, we are on a crash course right now and we're headed for the end of our democracy. And that's just unfortunate. You know, I'm going to stay in this fight, Roland. I don't, you know, I, what's the alternative? You just throw your hands up and say the hell with it. I don't accept it as an inevitability that Donald Trump is just going to
Starting point is 00:10:56 end democracy in the world. No, not without a fight. He's not, you know, I don't, I don't believe it's, it's, we need to sit down. We do need to organize better. We need to get focused. There are elections in 2025. There's elections midterms in 2026. There's an opportunity, y'all, for us. And I know a lot of people are saying the hell with this. Like they don't care about me. Why should I care? I'm asking y'all as a personal favor to me. I haven't quit yet. So I'm asking y'all not to quit too. We got to stay in this brother. We have to stay in it, but also I think we have, we have to acknowledge what we are up against. We have to, when you make the point about guardrails, the reality is these Republicans have no desire whatsoever, uh, to operate with decency. They have no morals, no values, no principles, no integrity.
Starting point is 00:11:50 They have none of that. I mean, the Democrats, a law was passed to put up a plaque in recognition of folks like you and Mike Johnson and the Republicans still right now refuse to put that plaque up in the U.S. House. I'm glad you brought that up, too. Yes. At this point, that's no longer playing politics. Like you said, there is a law that is on the book requiring that plaque to be up. So now we are past playing politics. That is clear obstruction by Mike Johnson. That's what Mike Johnson is doing. He's being obstructionist because it is a law that he is not following. Another thing, he had no problem doing a favor for getting Donald Trump to get those flags raised to full staff. We just want a plaque up that's required by law.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. I mean, I need everybody to listen. A law was passed. A law. It's law that passed in a Republican Congress. And he like, no, we ain't put it up. Like, the plaque is actually made. Yeah, it's done.
Starting point is 00:13:10 They need to take it up now. And, you know, I don't know how the logistics of those work, you know. I mean, there are plenty of spaces for it. But it's a law, and every day that it goes by, Mike Johnson is not putting it up. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. real people real perspectives this is kind of star-studded a little bit man we got uh ricky williams nfl player hasman trophy winner it's just a compassionate choice to allow players
Starting point is 00:14:50 all reasonable means to care for themselves music stars marcus king john osborne from brothers osborne we have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I always had to be so good, no one could ignore me. Carve my path with data and drive.
Starting point is 00:15:49 But some people only see who I am on paper. The paper ceiling. The limitations from degree screens to stereotypes that are holding back over 70 million stars. Workers skilled through alternative routes rather than a bachelor's degree. It's time for skills to speak for themselves. Find resources for breaking through barriers at TaylorPaperSealing.org. Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. And he's in violation of the law.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, I just need people to understand what we're now dealing with. And so, look, we're going to see this crap. The reality is that thug is there for the next four years. But I need people to actually give a damn. I need people to actually care what's going on because
Starting point is 00:16:35 you're right. He made it clear he was going to do it. And then when J.D. Vance did an interview, oh no, oh no, we're going to I mean, people who committed violence against cops. We're not letting them out. Pam Bondi and her and her attorney general hearings. Oh, we're going to look at every single part in case by case. What happened? Sworn in. Boom. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But in fairness, in fairness to them. Well, I don't damn fairness. But in their defense, I honestly think that they believe that. Donald Trump said, F y'all, I'm going to do what I want because I can. I don't need your advice. I don't need to consult with anybody on pardons. I can do this. Donald
Starting point is 00:17:17 Trump is power hungry. He's power driven. And when has Donald Trump ever taken anybody's advice? Like never. He doesn't. He doesn't. But and that's my point. Why are we expecting anything different out of him? Like this is who he is. He like a snake. We get mad at snakes. If a snake bites you. No, you should be dumb for going around a snake. That's what snakes do. They bite you. Donald Trump is a liar. He's power driven. And that's who he is. We should be upset at ourselves if we expect anything else but a lying and a liar in chief out of him.
Starting point is 00:17:51 That's it. Absolutely. Harry Dunn, man, we appreciate it. And, you know, it's unfortunate that these Republicans in MAGA claim to support law enforcement, but don't support Capitol Police officers and Metropolitan Police officers. They just, they don't care. They will never care. And hopefully people realize how crude and pathetic these people really are when it's time to go to the polls again. Yeah, I hope so, brother. Thanks for having me on, my friend. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Support the work that we do. Join our Bring the Funk the funk fan club you heard we just talked about there folks i can't
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Starting point is 00:22:01 I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter
Starting point is 00:22:49 and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:22:58 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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