#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump's Criminal Trial Begins, FBI Baltimore Bridge Collapse Probe, Fisk's Morgan Price Historic Win

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

4.15.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Trump's Criminal Trial Begins, FBI Baltimore Bridge Collapse Probe, Fisk's Morgan Price Historic Win #BlackStarNetwork partners:Fanbase 👉🏾 https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase Donald Trump's hush money trial in New York began today. He's facing 34 felony counts and up to 4 years in prison. We'll discuss what this means for the upcoming election.  The FBI opened a criminal investigation into the cargo ship that slammed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge and caused it to collapse in Baltimore last month. A first gymnast from a historically Black college or university team becomes the first to win a national collegiate championship over the weekend. Morgan Price of Fisk University and her coach will be here tonight to discuss her history win.  In our Fit, Live, Win segment, we continue to recognize National Minority Health Month by discussing the three most significant health challenges facing African Americans: mistrust of the medical industry, HIV, and diabetes. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You dig? Thank you. Today's Monday, April 15th, 2024, coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. I am here in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, for the Hootie and the Blowfish, Monday after the Masters Golf Tournament. I'll show you some of the exciting things that happened today. Also, it is Jackie Robinson Day in Major League Baseball.

Hence, me wearing his Brooklyn Dodgers number 42. On today's show, folks, we'll be talking about a sister from Fisk University who won a major gymnastics competition over the weekend, becoming the first HBCU student to actually win that competition. We will be joined on the show by the Fisk University gymnastics coach, as well as Morgan Price, the young woman who won that. So a huge, huge win. Also in the cheerleading competition, North Carolina A&T, they also won over the weekend. So lots of great news from our HBCUs. In New York City, Donald Trump, his criminal trial begins today.

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Martel! Jury selection begins today in New York City in the historic trial of Thug-in-Chief Donald Trump. He, of course, is the first former occupant of the Oval Office. Y'all know I do not call him president at all. To go on trial for criminal charges, this case centers around a potential sex scandal cover-up that took place just days before the 2016 presidential election. The trial begins today with jury selection, which, due to the large pool of prospective jurors,

literally could take up to two weeks. The charges from Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg stem from $130,000 payment Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels at the end of the 2016 election to keep her from going public with an allegation that she and Trump had a sexual affair. Trump then repaid Cohen in installments marked as legal fees in company records. Now, Trump actually denies having an affair with Daniels. Now, we know he's a liar. And what you also have, you also have all of these people who are making excuses for Donald Trump.

I mean, my goodness, Geraldo Rivera, Clay Travis, all these people, because they cannot stand the fact that this is moving forward. So they want to make excuses for him. Now, here's the problem. There's a sign over the Supreme Court. Literally, it is etched in stone. It says equal justice under law. What that means is it doesn't matter who you are in the United States.

It doesn't matter if you're rich, if you're poor, if you're a politician or you're not, equal justice under law. But so many people have continued to make excuses for Donald Trump, and he has never learned his lesson because for him, he figures I can do whatever it is that I want. Let's talk to my panel right now. I'm a Congo, being a senior professor at the School of International Service at American University. Renita Shannon, former Georgia State representative out of Atlanta. Also, we have Dr. Julianne Malveaux. She's economist and author out of Washington, D.C., president emerita of Bennett College.

Alma Conger, I'm going to start with you. I mean, here's the thing that is amazing to me. This thug, that's what he is. He's a liar. He is a tax cheat. He has cheated on multiple wives. He refuses to pay his bills. He trashes everyone. He talks about everyone.

There's no level of accountability. And to watch people continue to make excuses for this man, frankly, it's pathetic. It's pathetic. It's sad. And it's like what they're making excuses for. I mean, everybody knows, you know, they call this the hush money trial case, but we know it's also about election interference. And we're talking about a man who paid off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, the people involved in the porn industry, to keep his image as some, you know, to continue to try to court evangelicals, to try to show that he was Christian, that he was going to be,

you know, quote, unquote, you know, pro-life, or as we like to talk about here, anti-abortion. And he tried to keep coming off of this. And after that Access Hollywood tape came out, people thought he was done. People like Paul Ryan, you know, disinvited him from events. And people thought that, you know, they should really try to get rid of him. But he had a lot more support than we thought, because when Paul Ryan tried to uninvite him from that event, Paul Ryan got booed by the people in the audience. So the fact of the matter is, Roland, I feel like at the end of the day,

he probably still could have won if this tape came out, if information about these payoffs came out, because that's how much so many people in his base wanted him. And when you talk about so much of the Hillary hate, but right now he is there. He's got to be quiet. He can't intervene the way he wants.

He can't interject the way he wants. And he has to be there every day, Roland. And so we don't know what's going to happen in the actual trial itself. We don't know if there's going to be a stealth juror who's going to get on there and be like a, you know, rabid Trump supporter. We don't know. But the fact of the matter is that the process of accountability, criminal accountability, has finally started at least one of these trials.

And he can't get out there and try to control the narrative. If he really wants to control the narrative, get up there and take the stand, which we also know that he's not going to do. Overall, this is a good day. And for all of those people who are trying to excuse him, you know, they got enough stuff in their closet they don't want coming out either,

but they need this man to be their front man. They need this man to be their winner at all costs, despite all of the people whose careers have been destroyed over this man. Giuliani, Weisselberg, who's in prison right now at like, what, 80-something years old. Everybody's lying on their sword for this man who will never do the same for them. But the process is moving, even though slowly. And it's a good day. Renita, the thing for me is very simple, and that is his supporters, they literally make excuses for everything. Oh, this is political. If it wasn't him, they wouldn't be doing this.

He can flout the law. He can break the law. And for them, it's like, all right, whatever. We really don't care. Right. They're making excuses for him, which is also a tried and true tactic of the way that white supremacy is kept intact in this country, which is that when white men have done something that obviously they need to be held accountable for from a legal perspective, they people tend to make excuses for them for them and do whatever they can to shield them from accountability. And that helps to hold white supremacy intact. It's just one of the benefits of white supremacy. And so this case is really important, you know, him being held accountable as well as the other charges that he's been charged with and folks trying to get accountability for

other things that he's done, because we are supposed to have a justice system that is supposed to be equal for everyone. And as you mentioned in the introduction, you know, folks are looking at this. Unfortunately, too many people in this country, their interaction and what they've seen of our criminal justice system has been that there are some people, generally rich white men, who happen to always be above the law and escape accountability. And so holding Donald Trump accountable is going to do a lot more than actually hold him accountable. It's going to do a lot to actually make people feel at least just a step closer to believing that we are moving one step closer to equal justice in this country. And that is important because that is what, you know, people believing that there's a justice system is what separates people from just deciding to get their own justice and just doing vigilante justice.

So it is important for the country. Julianne, what's also interesting is to watch these lying, hypocritical, atrocious, shameful and despicable white conservative so-called Christians make every excuse possible. People like Franklin Graham and the list goes on and on and on. And that's all they do. They excuse this man's behavior. They embolden his shameful behavior and they know he is not even remotely a Christian. It never has been, but he's wrapped himself around that and they've allowed him to do so. The fact is that when we look at so-called Christianity, I say so-called, I am a Christian, but I'm that kind of Christian. I'm not the Christian who went to church and then after church went to the lynching.

And these are the Christians, when we look at the defenders of the orange man, who basically believe in selective Christianity. So when they talk about feeding the hungry, but don't put any more money in any SNAP benefits. You talk about clothing naked, but don't do anything about public assistance. We can go down the list of their hypocrisies. And among their hypocrisies, there's a, I believe there's a commandment that says thou shalt not commit adultery. I think there's such a commandment. But apparently all these holy rollers will make excuses for the orange man who has flagrantly committed adultery, I don't know how many times. We can look at any number of things that they defend

that defy the Bible, the commandments, and everything else. What they really are telling us, Roland, is that they prefer to win than to be Christian. They prefer to subjugate people, especially poor people, especially black people, especially immigrants, than to be Christian. There's nothing in the Bible that says once somebody crosses the border, they're no longer a human being. And the people who have come to the border, they've come at enormous costs. They didn't come to do anything but to survive.

And yet we basically peripheralize them. So I reject their notion of Christianity. They're not behaving in a Christian manner. And, you know, you've got these youth in these conservative Christian churches wearing these little armbands that say WWJD, what would Jesus do? Well, Jesus would not do Trump. That's what Jesus would not do. And we know this for a fact. And so all these spinning, Geraldo, you know, I'm glued to the team. Well, not completely glued, because I did have to do some work. Watching off and on the television today, of course, I stay on CNN and MS.

I can't have Fox in my house. But the clips of these people, and they're just telling lies. And now his new one is he gave Stormy Daniel the money to save his marriage. What marriage? Have you seen Melania lately? Girlfriend is going to get paid another couple mil to hang out for the campaign and then she's going to keep it moving. But neither here nor there. The fact is that the question you raise about Christianity and the hypocrisy is the appropriate question. But the other question, equally if not more important, is why do these people stick with him?

Why do, you know, the white working class, who he's doing nothing for, who he's doing nothing for, they feel some affinity with him. And I'm not sure why. He's not coming to their house. Their grandkids are not going to be. No, no. We know why. Because the bottom line is, he made clear. He is going to put

hardcore right-wing evangelicals on the federal bench. He did that. And so what they've decided is, oh, we will overlook all of your pathetic, narcissistic behavior to get what we want. It's also about power. I want to go to a break. We come back. I'm going to show you what happened on yesterday on ABC this week when New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu was questioned by George Stephanopoulos. And he showed you exactly how they operate and what matters to them.

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I've said to y'all on numerous occasions on this show, on others, Republicans are who they are. It is about power. Don't believe any of these people when they stand in front of the cameras and they're grandstanding and they're just making all of their pronouncements. That stuff means nothing. It's all about power. And New Hampshire Governor Chris Adunu, who supported Nikki Haley for the Republican nomination,

who has trashed Donald Trump in the past, he showed his whole ass yesterday on ABC This Week with George Stephanopoulos. And so,

we're about to play it for you right now, and you're going to see for yourself. And remember, I was on the same show, September 2021, with Chris Christie, and... A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.

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And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I sat there and I said it then. Now, I ain't been back on the show since, but everything that I said was absolutely true. Every single thing. And so we got the stupid video ready. All right, guys, let's go. We all see this, I mean, it's, it's, they tell you. And so this is why I crack up when I, when I hear these people talk about, oh, I'm not going to vote.

These things don't matter. You know, you're sitting here, you know, shilling. These people do not care. They do not care. It's all about control. Watch. Governor Chris Sununu, who worked against Donald Trump during the primaries, has now endorsed the former president. Governor, thank you for joining us You bet. History being made tomorrow, that criminal trial. Will your support for Donald Trump continue even if he's convicted in Manhattan? Yeah, look, this trial is not going to have major political ramifications that a lot of people, I think, think it may have.

And when it comes to these issues, people see it more as reality TV at this point. They really do. And so, you know, whether it's a conviction or what that conviction looks like, a lot of folks, they conflate all four of these different trials that he's in. I don't think it's good that he's going to be in the court. I have to be in there probably three days a week, you know, for a number of weeks. That takes him off the campaign trail. He'll probably go back on the campaign trail and almost like rehash what's going on. He'll try to victimize it. And that has worked for him. Right. I mean, this has been going on for over a year and his poll numbers

never seem to go down because of the issue. Well, yeah, you're going to politics, though I'm asking you about right and wrong. You think it's, you're comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who's convicted of a federal crime as president? No, I don't think any American is comfortable with any of this. They don't like any of this, of course. But I mean, when it comes to actually looking at each of these trials as they kind of take place, whether it's this year or next year, as they kind of line up, right now, this is about an election, right? This is about politics. That's what people are judging this on. And the ultimate decision will be in November to see where people are.

But for months and even over a year, we've heard that these are the things that are going to bring Donald Trump down. It's not. And to think that the American public is going to be massively swayed by this, politically or otherwise, that's not going to happen. I'm asking whether you're going to be swayed by it. You're a governor. You're an elected official.

I'm asking whether you're going to be swayed by it. Yeah. Look, nobody should be shocked that the Republican governor is supporting the Republican president. You know what the real story is? The average American that has gone from Biden back to Trump, the average American that is feeling inflation and all these other issues that says, look, through all this, whether there's a conviction or not, we want a culture change in Washington, D.C., and we'll continue to support the former President Trump. That's the real story, right, that Trump is leading in the polls across America in a lot of these different polls.

So no one should be surprised by my support. I think the real discussion is, you know, America's moving away from Biden. That's how bad Biden has become as president. There's just no doubt about it, right? You can't ignore inflation. You can't ignore the border and say that these issues in the courthouse are going to be the one thing that brings Biden back into office. It's not going to happen that way. Y'all heard all of that utter flat out nonsense. This is what I said on the same show, September 2021.

I appreciate the speech, Governor, but the reality is this. You have to admit, Sarah, you have to admit the role that you played in putting the person in leadership who is driving conspiracy theories. It's one thing to condemn them after the fact, but you have to own up to the role that you played in putting the person in power. We both ran campaigns against him. No, no, no, no, no. First off, can I finish? Can I finish? First off, can I finish? And second, I ran against Donald Trump in 2016. You also coached him. I ran against Donald Trump in 2016. Here's the deal. You ran against him. But when a person has principles, morals, and values, they do not support them even if you lose.

And what they say is, I choose patriotism and the country over party and power. And the problem was too many Republicans chose power in riding with Donald Trump as opposed to patriotism in America. I'll sleep fine tonight with you judging my morals. Well, guess what? As a voter who has 13 nieces and nephews, what I also want to see in America are Republicans and Democrats who have the guts to stand up to narcissists, to folks who lie, to folks who see them and lead a country in the wrong direction.

And what that man has unleashed on this country, any Republican who stood with him has to own it and accept the role that they played. Yeah, well, that's fine. I'll accept the role that I played in the 2016 election running against him. And I'll accept the role. But you have to let him finish his point now. Let him finish his point. And I'll accept the role that I played in my belief that Hillary Clinton was not the right person to be president. We all get to make choices, Roland, in this democracy. I made my choice. I'm on record of my choice, and I'm not walking away from my choice. But it does not preclude me from being

able to be critical when the person that I did support does things that I am against. And so this false choice that you're trying to set up, It's a false choice and one that the American people are not going to buy either. Ah, here you go, the false choice. Renita, these people, again, it's power.

They do not care. They do not care if this man has paid off a porn star. They do not care that he grabbed women by the vagina. They do not care how shameful, despicable he has been. They do not care about his racism when it came to housing. They do not care how he lies. They do not care, how he crapped on our troops who lost their lives, and how he, frankly, how he called them names. General John Kelly, four-star retired general, of course, Gold Star family member, talked about that as well.

This is who this man is. They do not care. So I need all the people who are sitting on the fence who are talking about, oh, you know what, I'm not going to vote to understand. These people don't have morals or values or principles or ethics. They are going to enact some of the most gross, disrespectful, shameful policies that are going to have a negative impact on African-Americans and others. And people better understand there's no such thing as a bottom with Donald Trump. It doesn't exist. It goes lower than the ocean floor. Well, Sununu and what he said actually let the cat out of the bag, which we all knew,

which is it really doesn't matter what Donald Trump does. They're going to support him. And I think that even includes him being convicted in any of these cases criminally, being a, you know, having been convicted of felonies or anything. It doesn't matter. They're still going to vote for him because they're not voting for him based on his actions. They're not voting on him based on morals. They're voting for him because they know that he will continue to do what it takes and be very bold about holding white supremacy intact. They are voting to keep whiteness together, and they know that that is what he will do because that is what he campaigns on. And so I think, and this is what I was saying earlier about, you know, why it's important that he's held accountable is because when you look at

the average poor white person here in the South, the Southern strategy for the most part still works. They know Donald Trump doesn't care about them, and they know that he's not going to do anything to help them. They know that. But what they are banking on is that, if he gets reelected, he will keep whiteness intact for the most part and the benefits of white supremacy. And so even if they are not going to have any money and even if he's not going to do anything economically for them, even if he's not going to do anything to make their life better, at least they will still be able to hold on to whiteness.

And that will buy that can buy them simple benefits like not being harassed as much by the police, not being over incarcerated the way that our communities have been. That can buy them having an easier day in court if they do have to go to court for something, there are still things that don't cost money that whiteness can buy. And Donald Trump is basically advertising and campaigning on that he's going to make sure that those things stay intact in this country. And that's what Make America Great Again is about. And Julianne, this is where, again, this is where people make the mistake. Well, they believe that we're operating by a set of rules. They believe that, oh, well, you know, the person does this. When the man trashed Senator John McCain as a POW and Republicans clapped, okay, that was it. They were done. And so people had better understand what these people want to do what their intentions are they're telling us what they're going to go after and folks had

better understand before it's too late he is exactly laying out what his plan is. He plans to fire civil servants who are not aligned with his agenda. Obviously, all of the BS folks he's going to go after. Government appointees and federal appointees he's going to go after. And you know that in terms of African-American professionals, we tend to be overrepresented among those ranks. So any African-American person who works for the federal government and supports Trump basically is putting a knife to their own throat. But there are those who will do that because they've drank the Kool-Aid. And that's literally what's happening. I was talking to a guy the other day, one of my neighbors, which I rarely do, but the man was talking. He said, oh, don't you know he's just joking? I'm like, no, he's not just joking.

But a lot of people think he's just joking or he's a little extreme or his rhetoric is out of order. No, his policies are out of order. The rhetoric we could potentially put up with is what he says he will do. And those who are reluctant to vote, Roland, I'm so disgusted. They keep talking about, well, he hasn't done—Biden, President Biden has not done enough. You know, now we got another student loan reprieve. There's some HBCUs. Do you think that President Trump, if a President Trump would support HBCUs? No. And we know that. We know that those states who have stolen money from HBCUs through the land grant colleges have federal money.

Federal government could play a better role. Trump isn't going to do that. And let's not talk about our rights, our abortion rights, our reproductive health rights. And then just today, the state of Iowa has banned any kind of treatment for trans children. They've made it against the law. Now, you know this goes to an Orange Man Supreme Court. They'll uphold that law. You know that, frankly. When we look at it, he would speak in favor of such a law. We know that the Republican Party has been aligned against difference. These states that are passing laws against diversity, equity and inclusion.

And so people, discerning people, many of them know better. They know better. But like you said, when you set this segment up, it's about power. It's about white supremacy. It's about fear of a black planet, fear that there are more and more African-American, Latino, Asian, young people who many, of course, line up with the orange man. But more are open and looking at lives, their lives. And they say, no, we're not having this. So this is a fear. It's that fear.

But here's the thing, Omicongo, that, again, that I think people need to understand. For those people who are on the right, it doesn't matter. So he knows I can do what, when he said I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and I would not lose support. That was not a lie. And so what I need people to understand is there are no rules here. They don't exist. And so you better understand when this man is standing in front of rallies saying I'm going to deport Latinos, when he's saying the programs are going to attack, when he says, hey, I wish I had the power like they do in England to just decide when the election takes place. That's what they want to do. Believe them. And so for Democrats, stop this.

I'm like all these idiot journalists, President Biden, he needs to be calling all these people who did support Donald Trump. No, he don't. You better be locking and loading on Democrats saying if we don't get out to vote, if that fool may be back in

and if he's back in, all the rest of these people, they know they've got an idiot in charge and they can do whatever they want because we know he can't read, we know he can't think, we know he's not smart. He's just happy to sit there and soak in all of the accoutrements of being president. When you talk about people needed to get on the

ball, first of all, that video from 2021, it never gets old and it just has more resonance. And I'm sitting here, you know, looking at this, you know, right here with white fear, Roland, you got four sections in here. And the first three are all playing out. The first one was igniting the flame of white fear. And on page 15, part two of that was enter Donald Trump. You talked about that. You laid it out. He came in with this. Then you talk about defining the white fear manifesto, going to what Dr. Malvo was saying, redefining American history with the bans and everything else, DEI. And then in Chapter 3, Section 3, you talk about legislating and regulating through white

fear. And that's them going after the courts. And, you know, so in those first three sections right there, it's all playing out. And we're seeing it with Sununu. We saw it with Ted Cruz before. We saw it with Mitch McConnell as well. I will support the Republican nominee regardless. That's my job as the Republican.

And so, when they don't care, how much do we care about? And I still feel, Roland, that there are still some people who kind of have that Susan Sarandon mindset of, maybe we can handle four years of Trump. Maybe that's what we need right now. Maybe, like, maybe, maybe, maybe. And at every level, there's a certain level of complacency. I remember two weeks ago when we were on, and you played, or three, when you played that Bill Maher video, when he was talking about the NBA and all this race stuff. He started off that segment by saying, I don't care who wins the election. That's how we started off. And so if people want to keep having that mindset,

Donald Trump will be back, and this country will get whatever it deserves. And if the Sununu video is not the latest one—because Chris Christie started listening to you finally in this election. He should have listened to you three years ago, right? But the fact of the matter is, if we don't get it on now, he's going to keep lying. I watched your segment when he was at the Chick-fil-A with the fake video of the Black supporter. They're going to do everything they can to your segment when he was at the Chick-fil-A with the fake video of the black supporter. They're going to do everything they can to play dirty because it's about power. Project 25.

It's about power. And so this is not the time for us to be cute and fancy and talk about sitting out or, oh, Biden is just not appealing to me. He's not calling me. He's not all of that. This is do or die, like die as a country, is do or die. Like, die as a country, like, do or die. And it's only going to get worse, and they're all falling in line once again. Not a lot of them are going to be like Mitt Romney, who said, hey, you get convicted of sexual assault of any sort. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding,

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They don't care. You've written a manifesto. It's time for us to get on the good foot because we only got a few months left to this American experiment if he gets in again. I simply want people to recognize. What does that state? I am not depending on any Republican to do what's right or just or fair because they want to be in control. So, folks, don't sit here and act like we didn't tell you if it happens.

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We make lemons out of lemonade. But there's a reason we rented a ballroom, did our own show, promoted it it got like 1500 people to come out clubs were sitting empty they were like where's everybody at they said they're down watching the band you wouldn't hire so it taught us not only that we had to be we had the talent of musicians but we also had to have the talent of entrepreneurship it wasn't like a seat at the table it's like, let's build the table. That's right.

We got to build the table. And that was the thing. And of course, after that, we got all kinds of offers. Of course. Right, to come play in the clubs. But we didn't do it. We said, no, we're good. No, we're good.

We're good. And that's what put us on a path of national. And of course, when Prince made it, then it was like, OK, we see it can be done. Hello, I'm Jamia Pugh. I am from Coatesville, Pennsylvania, just an hour right outside of Philadelphia. My name is Jasmine Pugh. I'm also from Coatesville, Pennsylvania. You are watching right outside of Philadelphia. My name is Jasmine Pugh. I'm also from Coatesville, Pennsylvania.

You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Stay right here. The FBI has launched an investigation into the bridge collapse last month in Baltimore. Francis Scott Key Bridge, of course, was nearly brought down in its entirety after a shipping container hit the bridge. On Monday, federal agents executed search warrants on the Dolly, a massive Singaporean flag cargo ship that which slammed into and brought down the bridge. Reports say the investigation reviewed the events leading up to the ship's departure from the port and whether the crew knew of potential mechanical problems that would make it unsafe in the harbor. Of course, the bridge collapsed around shortly before 2 a.m. on March 26th after the ship crashed into a bridge column, according to the NTSB, Natural Transportation Safety Board.

The vessel made mayday calls minutes before the crash, saying it had lost power and that a collision might have been possible. Eight construction workers were still on the bridge. Two were injured and survived, while the bodies of three others were recovered. The remaining three are presumed dead. And so that investigation is going on. One of the things that's happening in Congress, to me, I think is pretty stupid. of Renita, of Republicans refusing to go along with the rebuilding of this bridge, saying that's not really what we pay for. You know what's always amazing?

These so-called fiscal conservatives, that's what they try to call themselves. But it's amazing when you have natural disasters or accidents in their states where they absolutely are rushing for federal aid. But, oh, this is Baltimore. Oh, this is Maryland. Oh, that's a blue city, blue state. And it's a black state, black mayor, black governor. So, yeah, we don't want to support any of this.

That's nonsense. This is a significant port that actually impacts millions of Americans. It goes beyond just a Baltimore or a Maryland issue. And you kind of cracked open something that I'll just kind of extend what you're saying about it being a black area, blue democratically, is that one of the long games that Republicans have been playing, and they play this both at the local level, the state level, and the federal level, is that they want to make things harder in states that are democratically controlled and which happen to largely be black areas, so that in the end, people will feel like having—electing Democrats really does not do

anything for my life. And it actually, in some cases, can't even get some of the most simplest things done. And so I'm not surprised that they are lodging this argument. But, like you said, whenever you think about Ted Cruz and when Texas needed hurricane relief money and how he then wanted to change everything that he had said about disaster aid and things like that. So, I mean, I'm kind of not surprised to see all of that. But the other thing that this kind of reminds me, too, which a lot of people don't think about, but as a lawmaker, it's one roads, things that, you know, affect everybody that people

don't really prioritize at a high level, but it's important. And so frequently you see the pushback of people saying, oh, well, there's too much regulation, things like that. But a lot of times these regulations are about safety. And so I'm interested to see what this investigation yields. And I wonder if some part of a lack of regulations will have anything to do with what they uncover, especially since they suspect that the folks who were operating the vessel may have known that there were some mechanical failures to this boat, or at least whoever owned this boat, they may have known there were some mechanical failures. Absolutely. Omokongo? I think that this investigation, you know, you would think, going back to these Republicans,

you know, given that this is a foreign-owned vessel, that people would be all about America first and let's do this investigation and see what happens. We also see that the owners of this ship, they're using laws that were used or policies that were used to protect them, that the owner of the Titanic was using to try to prevent some of their, you know, having to possibly pay out and take responsibility for what happened. And I'm also glad to see that some of the families have also got their own lawyers involved to investigate this as well. And we see this across the country, where companies, whether we're talking about oil

spills, whether we're talking about train wrecks, whether we're talking about so many things, the company's going to do the first thing that they do is going to be to protect their own assets. But we have to make sure that our government is doing the right thing by the people on the ground. And we know that with Biden, he talks about making sure that everything is paid for, that they can cover. But we know if this was Trump, they wouldn't have sent any resources towards that city because during COVID, Trump was talking about sending aid to cities that were only Republican,

that were red states. And so when we see this investigation right now, everybody, you know, an FBI director, still a Republican, you know, these Republicans should get behind this. But they are going to politicize this in every way, shape and form just by using DEI as relates to the mayor and the governor, as you mentioned before. And so this investigation needs to continue. Whoever needs to be held responsible. And it needs to happen fast, because I'm going to assume that a company this large

has a great deal of lawyers at its disposal and knows the laws very well. And so I'm glad the FBI is in it right now. And I hope that this yields something that could be beneficial for those families and for the people of Baltimore and Maryland and across the country, because like you said, we're all suffering from this right now. Indeed. Julianne? You know, the thing about what happened with the French Key Bridge is that it's not just a Baltimore or Maryland issue. It's a national issue. We will see some reverberations in terms of the national economy.

We will see some disruptions in the supply chain in the national economy because of this. And so it's very appropriate for there to be an investigation. But I would propose a further investigation, Roland. We know that 20 percent of our nation's bridges are compromised. We know that insufficient investment in infrastructure is partially a function of these compromised bridges. It's why the American Council of Civil Engineers gives our infrastructure a C-minus grade. And we know that President Biden has done his best to spend money on infrastructure, but we know where the opposition has come from.

So even as we look at the Francis Scott Key Bridge, we also need to look at the status of our other national bridges, because this could happen—there are five or six places where this could happen again if there were such a— if this was completely an accident and everything was OK, but we know that everything was not OK. But what we know more than that is that our infrastructure is crumbling and Republicans do not want to invest in it. As Renita said opening up, anytime there's a tragedy in one of their states, oh, yeah, let's fix it. But if it's a tragedy in a blue state, let's let it wither. And so the investigation is a good thing. It's a great thing. But we really have to go beyond that. That's the bottom floor. And as we look up, we really have

to look at the status of our infrastructure, not just bridges, water. We still have challenges in Michigan with water. And Michigan is not the only place. I bet if we looked at our own back door, the District of Columbia, let's say, we might find some challenges with water quality in our schools as well. So this just reminds us about how important infrastructure is because we need the reminder because this is something that we seem to want to ignore. Look, we do like to ignore infrastructure. Obviously, this was an accident that took place. But it's something that, look, the bridge needs to get rebuilt, period. And so Congress needs to get off their butts and do more. All right, going to a quick break.

We come back, folks. Lots more to talk about. Today is Jackie Robinson Day. His number 42 is retired, and all Major League Baseball players on today will be wearing his jersey during games. And so we'll chat about that. Also, we did not talk about this here. I did want to talk about it a week ago. It was Hank Aaron Day.

It was the 50th anniversary of Hank Aaron breaking Babe Ruth's record, 714 home runs. And so I want to chat about that as well. In addition to that, I wanted to talk about a different perspective also. When it comes to Jackie Robinson going into, quote, Major League Baseball, or some would say white organized baseball, and its impact on black-owned teams. Yep, there's a lot I want to break down. Plus, we'll be chatting with the history-making gymnast at Fisk University and her coach. Also, Supreme Court issued a ruling when it comes to organizing

as it relates to McCore's community activist DeRay McKesson. I'll actually tell you what the Supreme Court decided or didn't decide As it relates to McCore's community activist, DeRay McKesson, I'll actually tell you whether the Supreme Court decided or didn't decide next on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. I'm Faraji Muhammad, live from L.A., and this is The Culture. The Culture is a two-way conversation. You and me, we talk about the stories, politics, the good, the bad, and the downright ugly. So join our community every day

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On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach, Financial Literacy. Without it, wealth is just a pipe dream. And yet, half of our schools in this country don't even teach it to our kids. You're going to hear from a woman who's determined to change all that, not only here, but around the world. World of Money is the leading provider of immersive financial education for children ages 7 to 18. We provide 120 online and classroom hours of financial education. That's right here on Get Wealthy on Blackstar Network. Hello, I'm Marissa Mitchell, a news anchor at Fox 5 DC. Hey, what's up? It's Sammy Roman, and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks. Today, the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal by activist DeRay McKesson.

This stems from a protest that took place several years ago in Louisiana regarding around Alton Sterling. Now, of course, the decision would be whether or not the leader of a demonstration could be sued for an injury to a police officer, which was caused by another protester. Now, that leaves in place the ruling of the Fifth Circuit and the very conservative Fifth Circuit ruled that a person can be held liable for the violent actions of a random protester. Now, there still are other things that are happening in the lower court, which was stated by Justice Sonia Sotomayor. But this really is a very dangerous case, Julian, because what you have here is a police officer who says that he was injured by another protester. And so therefore he sued DeRay McKesson individually as saying, oh, you planned this, you organized this when he actually said he didn't.

So therefore, I am going to hold you liable for my injuries, even though the raid didn't even know who the hell the alert perpetrator was. You know, again, we talked earlier about the retrenchment on our rights. One of our rights is a right to protest. And this is a right that we've seen over the past few years, protesters being arrested, protesters being fined. And this is just an extension of that. There is no way on this Lord's earth that DeRay McKesson should be responsible for anything. But you have these unleashed, rabid racists who don't want to, they want us to disappear. They don't want to seeid racists who don't want to—they want us to disappear. They don't want to see people protesting.

They don't want to see people out there. So what tools can they use? What tools can they manufacture to discourage civic engagement? And this is one of them, having to sue the leader of a protest, the so-called leader of protest, who says he didn't even organize it. But you can just pull this out of basically thin air and say, oh, yeah, he organized it, so I'm going to sue him. No direct connection, no straight line, maybe a dotted line, and not even clearly a dotted line. It's absurd.

But again, we're seeing our rights retrenched. And seeing our rights retrenched means this has motivated us to just fight harder. We don't trust anything the Supreme Court does, and we know why. You know, this also shows folks, Renita, why federal judges matter. For anybody out there who's sitting here going, oh, man, I know you keep bringing this sort of stuff up. This is a federal lawsuit. And so if these judges, if they frankly rule against DeRay, what they're basically saying is, oh, if anybody organizes a protest, you may or if you simply if they just accuse you of attending one, oh, you could be liable if somebody gets hurt. Right. And so what this will do is have an effect on organizing and have an effect on free speech

because it could make some folks feel that they cannot take the risk of organizing a protest, which is generally open to the public, if they have to take responsibility for whatever happens at that protest. I mean, I do think this is going to be really interesting in the courts, because one thing about it, as they are trying to target and crack down on dissent and they're trying to target black people standing up and saying what we need to have in this country as far as it relates to justice and many of the issues that we are using our voices for, all of these decisions are still going to be tied to other things that are important to many of the folks who are bringing these lawsuits. So I don't see how you can say that a public protest, which is generally open to the public,

the organizer of that is responsible for any and everything that happens and responsible for people who they didn't even invite, who show up to the protest and call and have an issue. They're responsible for that. Well, then how is that different than having an open music concert and maybe in the crowd somebody drinks a little too much and gets into a fight with another person? You're telling me that now live action or whoever put on the music event is now responsible for things like that instead of individual responsibility. So I think that, you know, the way the Supreme Court is moving, where they are moving in ways that are very niche to fit their agenda, are going to have larger ramifications that in the end will bite everybody in the butt. I'm a Congo.

We also have to be mindful that this is also going to be selectively used, because in many of these states, like Florida and other places, which we also talked about last week as well, the governors are introducing laws that are making it OK to run over protesters if they feel like their life is threatened. And I guarantee, like, depending on who the person in the car is, whoever they run over, they're not going to face particular charges. Let's also be mindful of the fact that this protest was to protest the killing of Alton Sterling. And those officers who killed him, there were no charges even filed against them.

And so, police officers, you know, we don't want anybody getting injured or hurt, but that sometimes also comes with the job. And so, if people are going to make more of a bigger deal of that than the particular situation they were protesting in the first place, that also reveals the hypocrisy. And every state and every—across the country, we need to be mindful, particularly with these Republican governors, they are going to continue to do things like this, and police are going to feel more emboldened. And we wouldn't be surprised to find out, even if some of these other protests, because

you know we're going to keep protesting anyway, they invite some people there to be disruptors, some people who will be there who can actually attack police or hurt other people, so these types of lawsuits can continue to happen to defame them. So this is a real problem, and it's going to be loosely applied primarily towards people who are anti-Trump in some way, shape, or form, or people who are considered to be, quote, unquote, anti-police or Black Lives Matter activists in general. It's the hypocrisy of enrolling that is glaring, particularly in the fact that this was a protest after the killing of Alton Sterling. And the fact of the matter is, we're not getting justice for the rallies that we're showing up to in the first place,

but these particular smaller incidents are gaining more attention and making their way all the way up to the Supreme Court. Indeed. So like I said, there are some other cases winding its way through the courts. And so we'll be paying attention to this, but we'll see what action takes place next. All right, folks, we come back. It's Jackie Robinson Day in Major League Baseball. We'll talk about that and also reflect on last year when we were in New York City for the grand opening of the Jackie Robinson Museum.

That's next right here. I'm Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network live from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I'm attending Hootie and the Blowfishes, Monday after the Masters Golf Tournament. Can't wait to show you some fun time I had with Sterling Sharp. Today's show is Craig Melvin. Y'all are going to love this.

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that I think Black people just have to go through you know we have to figure it out you know right we make we make you know lemons out of lemonade but there's a reason we rented a ballroom did our own show promoted it got like 1500 people to come out clubs were sitting empty they like, where's everybody at? And I said, they're down watching the band you wouldn't hire. So it taught us not only that we had the talent of musicians, but we also had the talent of entrepreneurship. It wasn't like a seat at the table.

It's like, no, let's build the table. That's right. We've got to build the table. And that was the thing. And of course, after that, we got all kinds of offers. Of course. Right, to come play in the clubs. But we didn't do it.

We said, no, we're good. No, we're good. We're good. And that's what put us on a path of national. And of course, when Prince made it, then itens, America's Wealth Coach, Financial Literacy. Without it, wealth is just a pipe dream. And yet, half of our schools in this country don't even teach it to our kids. You're going to hear from a woman

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Joining me from Xavier University is Kirsten McGowan. So, Kirsten, glad to have you on the show. You know, this point here in terms of, you know, trust in the medical industry. And so much of this is because there are very few, when you look at the numbers, medical practitioners that look like us. When you begin to talk about doctors, obviously we have high numbers when it comes to nurses. But once you go into specialists, you see few and few of us. And so, frankly, for African-Americans, we feel more comfortable with individuals who look like us,

who know us and who have an understanding of who we are? Absolutely. I'm sorry. I was waiting on a second to chime in. I definitely agree with you when it comes to that. I feel like one of the other big pieces that kind of plays a huge role in that is honestly the lack of cultural competence when it comes to the providers that we do actually have. So when you're going to the doctor and, you know, they're looking at you like, oh my goodness, my patient is non-adherent. So that means that like, they're not doing what I asked of them, but they're not thinking of like, okay, maybe they're not doing what I asked of them because of, you know, social determinants of health or something that may be going on culturally. So you really have to look at the patient as a whole person instead of just looking at the numbers. And when you look at things historically, especially, you see that

there's been a history and a pattern almost of, you know, healthcare providers taking advantage of these minority populations. So it's understandable. And I feel like as healthcare providers, the best thing you can do to kind of combat that is really just look it in the face and say, hey, I understand that this may be a barrier, but I'm here for you. I'm here for this.

But one of the things that, and we also always really encourage this, is making sure that our people are asking questions, probing, and forget this whole thing about being the angry black man, the angry black woman. Your health is the most important thing, and you can be, you should be asking those questions and demanding those answers as a patient? I 100% agree with that. But sometimes when you see patients, it's kind of like, what questions do you ask? Because I come from a healthcare background and I'm going for my doctorate in pharmacy, I know how to ask questions in regards to my health. And I know how to say,

hey, like, what about this? What are some side effects with this medication? You know, what does a successful treatment look like here? A lot of patients are coming in really blind and don't really understand like what questions they should ask. I guess the biggest thing that they can ask is like, you know, what medication am I going to be on? How long am I going to be on it? You know, when do I come back? But outside of that, there isn't much dialogue because you can expect patients to ask, but how do you know what's a good question? How do you know what to ask, you know? Oh, absolutely. Well, speaking of questions, let's go to my panel right now. Makongo, you first. I really appreciate all of the incredible work that you're doing. I have a question as relates to you being a pharmacy student right now.

We see a lot of conversation about how medical providers, because of issues relating to abortion and abortion care, are leaving states that they may be fearing doing work in. Are you seeing similar concerns as it relates to students who may not want to be in certain places because of the DEI backlash and how that might affect their ability to be able to be in certain places because of the DEI backlash and how that might affect their ability to be able to be in schools and be in places like you are and also work with some of these patients who might be also having this level of distrust as well? I think one of the biggest things I'm seeing from a student perspective is that we as students are like, oh my goodness, like we're really watching different laws and

protections, especially when it comes to maternal health. We're watching that being stripped away. And it's something that we're just becoming more fearful of. I haven't really heard many conversations of, oh, I don't want to practice in this state because of this, the result of, you know, a reversal of a law or a clause. I haven't really been seeing much of that, but it's more so like, okay, we know that we have an opportunity to go into the healthcare field to make a difference. That's exactly what we're striving to do. How do we do it within these parameters? And how do we ensure that we're still making, you know, society a more just and humane space? But the reality to Omicron was point though, uh, that is happening.

I remember, uh, in new Orleans, um, I'm pulling the story up. Um, you had an OBGYN, uh, who left, uh, who, um, one of the practitioners. And so what you do, we are seeing that there are people who are deciding they're not going to work in certain states because of bills that they passed dealing with LGBTQ, dealing with transgender, dealing with abortion. And so this is going to be an issue that we have to face.

I 100% agree that it's going to be an issue that we have to face. When it comes to me personally, I plan to go back to like the Midwest. So when I think about practicing, it's not something that is in like the forefront of my mind, but I could definitely understand how practicing in a state like this could be very difficult and very much so like a big contradictory type situation. Because if you believe that you assist a patient no matter what and you go to bat for them no matter what, but then the law legitimately says that you no longer have that right to do everything in power for your patients. That's a scary thing. So I can definitely understand why some people are choosing to leave. Renita? Well, thank you for being here. Just a quick question. Do you know

of any specific resources that would help black patients in particular advocate better for themselves when they go to the doctor? Because as you mentioned before, a lot of times people just don't know what they don't know. And so that can impact what type of questions they ask. So are you aware of any specific resources that can better help black patients advocate for themselves? Absolutely. One of the biggest resources I would definitely recommend is utilizing Google. And I know it sounds very crazy, but I would say if you are a diabetic patient, look up diabetes, try and understand what it actually is. There are so many different resources, especially on YouTube that actually break down like the

pathophysiology and, you know, the treatment protocols for different disease states. So if you really are unsure of what to ask, you utilize YouTube, utilize Google, find out everything you possibly can about the disease state that you're currently experiencing or the one that your loved one is and figure out like, you know, what could go wrong? What medications are they typically on? What side effects come along with these medications? How can a person's life be altered due to, you know, this diagnosis or due to the introduction of a different medication or a new medication. Find out as much as you possibly can utilizing Google, YouTube. I would stay away from things like Wikipedia and WebMD just because sometimes it can be very much so filled with a lot of medical jargon. But if you're looking for something that's very easily digestible, definitely utilizing

Google and YouTube to just figure out as much as you can about the disease state and then being like, okay, so what am I particularly worried about? And then you can go from there. Julie, go on. First of all, thank you and Renita for raising the important issue of asking questions.

And I think that often people, especially as they age or as if they are not well-educated, ought to bring somebody with them. Often, if you're also talking about your own medical situation, you could get confused or overwhelmed. And it's useful to have someone advocate or someone with you,

even if it's just a friend, to hear what the doctor has said. Now, I've done a little bit of work on health disparities, and I boil it down to access, assets, and attitudes. And, of course, those who have more money have better health care most of the time. Access, those who have access have better care. But the issue that I'd like you to address and that we need to deal with is also attitudes. Not only our attitudes towards health care, often not speaking up, being distrustful of doctors, but also their attitudes towards us. It's all too often, everybody talks about the case of Serena Williams, but that's not the only

case of a well-situated Black person basically being ignored. And we're seeing with maternal health so many deaths, women who are pregnant dying. So how do they address these attitudes in medical school so that non-culturally competent doctors get the opportunity to look at this through a different lens? Thank you for that question, Sora. I would definitely say that one of the biggest things that they teach us is to be culturally competent, but also to find a way to give your patient a voice. And I feel like a lot of times because of, you know, a multitude of reasons that a lot of healthcare providers don't really open up the floor to patients. And one thing that I'm seeing more and more of, especially as I do rounds and rotations in hospital settings and even in clinical settings, is that healthcare

providers are being a lot more intentional about saying, hey, like, is what I'm doing and the information that I'm giving to you, is this helpful to you? Are you able to actually digest it? And actually giving them that space to kind of level with you and say like, hey, I understand exactly what you're saying, or I have no clue what you're saying to me. All I know is that I need to come back here in three months. So I feel like, um, as a people and just as patients in general, we have to get really comfortable in saying like, even if your provider does not offer you that space, take that space. If they're in front of you and you are not understanding at all what's going on, you can ask them, hey, can you break this down to me? One of the first things that they teach you in medical school, pharmacy school, nursing school, any kind of medical professional school is how to communicate disease states and lifestyle modifications in layman's

term. So if you're not understanding something, you have to be really comfortable in saying like, hey, I don't know what this is. I need a little bit more help and assistance in understanding and digesting this so that I can get the best possible health outcome. Thank you, Saura. All right, then. All right, then. Well, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much for that. And again, I think one of the things that we are constantly encouraging our folks, again, is to take as much interest in your own health. Don't just, you know, yes, doctors are important. Pharmacists are important. But ask questions as much as possible so we have clarity on whatever information that we're trying to find out. Kirsten McGovern, thanks a lot. Thank you. Folks, we come back as we talk about Jackie

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Getting rid of the clutter and clearing the cobwebs in our head and in our home. That's next on A Balanced Life on Blackstar Network. Terry and I, we couldn't play in the white clubs in Minnesota. It felt like such a, you know, strength through adversity type moment that I think black people just have to go through, you know we have to figure it out you know, we make, you know, lemons

out of lemonade, but there's a reason we rented a ballroom, did our own show, promoted it got like 1500 people to come out, clubs were sitting empty. They were like, where's everybody at? And I said, they're down watching the band you wouldn't hire.

So it taught us not only that we had the talent of musicians, but we also had the talent of entrepreneurship. It wasn't like a seat at the table. It's like, no, let's build the table. That's right. We've got to build the table. And that was the thing. And of course, after that, we got all kinds of offers.

Of course. Right, to come play in the clubs. But we didn't do it. of course, after that, we got all kinds of offers. Of course. Right, to come play in the clubs. But we didn't do it. We said, no, we're good. No, we're good. We're good. And that's what put us on a path of national. And of course, when Prince made it, then it was like, OK, we see it can be done. Next on The Black Table with me, Greg Carr.

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And how, believe it or not, white America is starting to feel a little bit of the pain. Dr. Natasha Waraku joins us with a case study of one suburban community and how it reacted when the minority students started to excel. Most people didn't say this explicitly, but was that, you know, the academics are getting, standards are getting higher in part because of the Asian kids,

and that is making our kids really stressed out. So we need to reduce the amount of homework teachers are allowed to assign. She shares a perspective that you don't want to miss. That's on the next Black Table, only on the Black Star Network. What's good, y'all? This is Doug E. Freshener watching my brother Roland Martin underpilton Star Network. Thank you. so 77 years ago, Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier, becoming the first African-American to play in white baseball. Yeah. I don't call it Major League Baseball because the reality is the Major League talent was in the Negro Leagues. They were precluded from being in the so-called major leagues because of racism. It was racists who kept them out.

And the reason I'm using that language is because I believe we need to use proper language. It was white organized baseball. And I think we do a disservice to our people and to our history when we call what they were doing Major League Baseball. You see right here, I have two hats. Right here is the Kansas City Monarchs. Right here is the Kansas City Monarchs. Right here is the Brooklyn Dodgers. And so I purposely have them. Yesterday I was at the tournament here and I wore the Kansas City Monarchs jersey, number 25, Satchel Paige, and I had the hat today.

And the reason that's important is because without one, there's no other. Without the Negro Leagues, you don't have Jackie Robinson going to play in white baseball. But we also have to call it white baseball because that's what it was. How they systematically kept black people out even when Jackie Robinson was the one they allowed in. There were limits to how many black players could be on one team. Jackie Robinson was the first black on the National

League. Then of course you had Larry Doby in the American League. But I also want us to understand that when we are factoring in our desires and what we're trying to prove, and let's remember, people, we can do well. We can play with them white boys. We already knew that.

But Jackie Robinson going to white baseball breaking down those barriers, breaking down those doors also serve as a death knell to the Negro Leagues. They accepted black talent but did not accept black owners. It's no different

when Prince Pollard when they had it's no different when Fritz Pollard, when they had a better team, a better league before the NFL. They accepted black players, but did not accept black owners. The NBA, they were black teams

that had black ownership, but they wanted black talent, but they did not want black owners. about these historical events because we have to recognize that when we are saying certain things the impact they will have on those who are listening year ago we were in New York City for the opening of the Jackie Robinson Museum. The first news outlet allowed to broadcast from inside the museum. And the museum tells the story of Jackie Robinson. Not just the baseball story. It tells the story of him becoming the executive with Chock Full of Nuts,

the first black senior executive at a major company. It tells a story about his involvement in political campaigns. It tells a story about him raising money for the NAACP and their freedom funders. It tells a story about him being involved in the opening of a black bank in Harlem. Why am I saying all of that? Because Jackie Robinson Day cannot and should not be reduced to this jersey.

Our kids should be reading I Never Had It Made, the book written by Jackie Robinson. What I do not want us as African-Americans to do. I do not want us to allow Jackie Robinson. And other significant figures in American history and our history to be reduced to what I call a civil rights bobblehead figure. Because they're more than just that.

Last week, last Monday, was the 50th anniversary of Hank Aaron breaking Babe Ruth's home run record, 714 home runs. He hit the home run, which you see right here.

The 715th home run. He see right here. The 715th home run. He got death threats. It was the worst experience because they wanted him dead. How dare you as a black man break a record from a white man, Babe Ruth. Babe Ruth was this national hero. In fact, when you see this video, I want you to see the black woman who

runs to home plate to hug Henry Hank Aaron. That was his mama because she was afraid he was going to be shot and she said before they can get to him they're going to have to shoot me you'll see it in a second Henry Hank Aaron talked about this not being a gratifying moment.

Now the judges hear that? You just heard the announcer say a black man is getting a standing ovation in the deep south. That was the baseball announcer who said that. I'm saying all of this because I fundamentally believe that when we talk about these things, we leave out the massive racism that

Jackie Robinson, Henry, Hank Aaron, and other ballplayers had to endure because we want to sanitize their story to make them more palatable to white America. Omokongo, your thoughts? You know, I think about Hank Aaron and I think about Jackie Robinson and how Hank Aaron talked about when he saw Jackie Robinson speaking when he was like age 14, that's what encouraged him to want to play baseball and that, you know, Jackie Robinson, who was his mentor for so long, taught him to, you know, always bear down, but never bow down. And so we're talking about two people with incredible dignity. When you take it to the deeper story, we are still seeing the problem today where we are still too happy to just, like you said, have the bobblehead, have the standing ovations, have

the video play at center field and things like that. But even when you talk about Hollywood and you talk about we're so concentrated on the show but not the business, when we get into these organizations and then we let the infrastructure that we build, we let it crumble because we're just so happy to be in that space. And with all of the resources that we have today, you know, we see what Ice Cube's doing with like the big three and the like, but we should be having more ownership.

If we're going to stay embedded in these organizations, NBA, NFL, and so on and so forth, we need to do more to demand more ownership. But it's high time we start looking at doing things again ourselves and on our own, whether it's college players, you know, skipping, you know, some of these racist white institutions that are back in DEI and start going to some HBCUs. There are so many opportunities rolling. Look, look at the Black Star Network. You could be all over all of these other spaces, but you chose to put something and break something down for us, for the people. And if we just had a little bit

more of that mindset, we could create something better. Like you said, the Negro Leagues, we should have never let it fold. But we can create something strong, just as strong now. And when we see this today, people are still going to get mad at our swagger. Look at Angel Reese getting death threats, you know, just for winning that championship at LSU and daring to be herself. They're always going to be mad. They're always going to be frustrated. But we have to make sure that we have the ability to create something that we can actually own and not just go with the whims of what they're saying. So on this anniversary that we're talking about now, Hank Aaron last week and Jackie

Robinson Day today, we should use this as a reminder that it's time to reexamine our role with these sports and all of these entertainment structures and start really focus on how we can build something that's going to be lasting for us. Prince talked about that at the Music Awards, you know, years ago as well. We have to do that now so we can set ourselves up to that next level so that people don't have to worry about taking 227 years before we equal it. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.

But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.

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The level of white wealth that we have today, that they have today, we can do better. And this is a great time to reflect on it. And I'm so glad you're doing this segment to speak on it. Folks, last year, when we were at the opening of the Jack Robinson Museum, got a chance to chat with journalist Howard Bryan. He is the author of a book on Henry Aaron. Just so folks know, Henry Aaron never liked being called Hank Aaron. And he would always say he always knew who his friends were because his friends called him Henry, not Hank. I just want you to hear what Howard had to say last year folks howard bryant um journalist author books on ricky henderson henry aaron we can go on and on and on all kind of books uh just your thoughts on this finally opening five years after the groundbreaking well i'm i'm just pleased about

it for lots of reasons i mean one to have it open a week after Rachel's birthday and all of the consternation about trying to get it open and not to be morbid, but we wanted her to see it. And after each delay and each delay, we were like, are we going to get there? Are we going to get there? Are we going to get there? And also, I feel very personal for it as well because they asked me to write some of the museum exhibits,

which was an honor. So to see it to see this this space from just concrete to a finished product it almost feels like writing a book where it starts from nothing and then it ends up as something and then now it's something for everyone to see it's amazing uh billy aaron is here uh the widow of uh henry aaron um so many people people who knew him, who played with him, for them to also experience this. And the beauty of this, that was in there yesterday, is that it doesn't just talk about him as a baseball player. It's him in his totality.

Well, there's no question when we were in the planning sessions of what this script was going to look like one of the things that was emphasized to me over and over again is this is not a baseball museum there's going to be baseball in it but this is not going to be defined by baseball and i remember stepping back going okay but how do we know jackie we know jackie is a baseball player we know what made jackie famous and what baseball player. We know what made Jackie famous. And what is the strategy and what are the calculations of do you emphasize the fan service? Why are people coming here? Or do you emphasize something else, which is, OK, here's the totality of the person. And I think that it struck a really great balance of making sure that you come for the baseball,

but you stay for the man or you come for the man and then you get some baseball as well. And going through it, when you look at, first of all, the NAACP work, when you look at again, and in fact, I was telling one of the folks, I really hope that they hit TNT to have that that movie Andre Breyer portray in the court martial Jackie Robinson. But you can't find it anywhere. I said, because, again, that's a story very few people know about how this man put it on the line facing a dishonorable discharge. And he did that before Rosa Parks. I mean, this is somebody who said, no, no, I'm not going to the back of the bus in Fort Hood clean. That's right. And I think what's most amazing about Jackie, and it's always been something, especially when you look at the history of who he was as a person. Where did that drive come from? Where did that courage come from? The willingness to do this, knowing the price. knows who jackie robinson is at the time so

everything he did was on principle there's no grandstand in here there's nothing performative about what he did what's right is right and that's it he was a great college athlete but at that time but even before he was a college athlete he was doing this stuff yeah even before you know when he was at pasadena there was always some moment somewhere where jackie robinson was involved in right and wrong and so to me it was just something inherent in him and i just find him to be so you know inspirational is one word but he's incredible yeah because when you talk about who he is who he was as a person, it's not just the baseball. First black man to integrate corporate America. First black man to

be on the broadcast and national in the broadcast booth. First black VP in the country. I mean, all of these different firsts. And also on top of being those first first, it's the vision that here's what I'm all about. I'm also about making sure that black people had agency in terms of their own money. So in terms of trying to start Freedom National Bank, all of these things, they all add up to the same the same vision, which is I am here for my people. And then just have it just. OK. All right, folks. Bernita. Well, I just think that all of this is massively more important today than it has ever been. As it relates to having Jackie Robinson Day, having the museum, and

talking about these anniversaries, because we're in a time where Southern states in particular, but, you know, states across the country have passed bills to say that you cannot teach accurate history. Some of these bills even say things like you can't teach anything that's going to make a white student uncomfortable. And so with the suppressing of our history being taught in school and us not being able to have accurate history taught in school for generations that are coming behind us, even having a Jackie Robinson day prompts people to say, hmm, OK, well, why is Jackie Robinson famous? What is his story? And you can't help. But when you hear his story, that brings about asking larger questions that inevitably get our history told. You can't understand why Jackie Robinson's—everything that he did was so important without bringing

larger questions to your mind, like, what was it like for other black players? Why was this needed? Why was all of the activism that he was doing—you know, why was this needed for black people? What was the conditions of black—what were the conditions of black people in that time that would have made all of this very necessary? So I think that it really just kind of goes to show that, you know, with the suppression of teaching accurate history in schools. And I'm not saying that having Jackie Robinson Day or a museum is a substitute for that. But it is one vehicle that will help us to make sure that we are still teaching our history and still furthering the legacies. Julianne. still teaching our history and still furthering the legacies. Julian. Thank you for doing this segment, Roland. I think it's so very important for us to remember the history, as Renita has said, but more

than remembering the hit, the day celebrates Jackie Robinson as a baseball player, but he was so much more than that. I mean, he was an activist. He put so many things on the line. He was selected because theoretically to be the first black player, because theoretically he had a moderate temperament, but he didn't. He struggled with his temperament because basically he acutely felt injustice. And in feeling that injustice, he empowered our people essentially to rise up, to stand up. People were enormously proud of him.

But I think that contemporary young people need to know his multidimensionality and not just that he was the first black baseball player. I think the other big piece about this, as we talk about erasure, because that's what's really happening, a lot of people would erase us, would basically want to erase our existence through these book bannings, through the outlawing of diversity, equity, and inclusion, and through any number of other things. It's important for us to stand and say, we will celebrate this man and we will celebrate his legacy and every aspect of it. Understanding that he was indeed a rebel, understanding that he was able to hide that

rebellion, but that the rebel in all of us needs to be awakened. We think about Jackie Robinson and the things that he was willing to do to make history for our people. I mean, he was willing to bridle his temperament. He was willing to be in uncomfortable situations, willing to endure death threats, and willing that people throw stuff at him when he was on the baseball field.

And nobody, his teammates didn't stand up for him. Few stood up for him. But our people were there, and we were watching. And so I find this exciting, the museum being up. You know, I love museums. And so anytime we have an edifice that's actually containing the history, I think that's really very important. So again, the segment is very important, Roland. I think Oba Konga would probably say, because he said it before,

wouldn't find this in mainstream media. But this is why the Black Star Network is such an important addition to the media landscape and a unique addition that again very many people would like to erase our history or somebody probably said a little something some and and not very much and let me just i know you're the big golfer golf lover and uh we know the the masters which i hate that word but whatever occurred. And although Tiger Woods has, you know, he's 40-something and he can't play golf like he used to, he was pivotal to that game as well. And we should never forget him or Lee Elder, who preceded him in the game of golf.

And then finally, we look at all this and look at this history. The words you used, sometimes you're smarter than I give you credit for. When you said, let's not call it Major League Baseball, let's call it white. We have to talk about nomenclature. We have to talk about the words we use and the credit we give because were it not for the Negro League, you wouldn't have had this. And the Negro Leagues were brilliant. They played circles around the white folks. And that's why they wanted Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron and so many others.

Yep. Well, that is certainly the case. And we want to do this here. We want to close this segment out, because last year I also talked to another history maker, Billie Jean King. My spouse is... Just turned 100 a few days ago, and she's here to celebrate the cup of the ribbon, but it's about... A lot of times, the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.

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have got to learn about Jackie's legacy and all he did. Jackie was a real hero in our family in the 50s. My dad played basketball against him. He went to Lombie City and Jackie went to Pasadena City. I've known about Jackie Robinson my whole life. He was always a hero in our home and what he represented. How he did it, I have no idea, putting up the racism, the slurs,

just how horrible humans can be to each other. And he just hung in there every day. He must have... I just can't believe how he got through this. But he did, and he's such a great example and such a hero to all of us, everyone. And I know we're fighting racism, but I can tell you a lot of white people, including me, loved him, loved what he stands for, and continue to appreciate the kids who are getting the scholarships.

I think that's really important, and his legacy will truly live on with Rachel's idea of having the Jackie Robinson Museum. Going to a break. We come back. We'll talk to a young history maker who made history this weekend for Fisk University and all HBCUs. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Fan base is pioneering a new era of social media for the creator economy. on the Blackstar Network. Another way fanbase or scan the QR code. Another way we're giving you the freedom to be you without limits. I'm Faraj Muhammad, live from LA.

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unfiltered uncut unplugged and History was made this weekend when Morgan Price became the first HBCU gymnast to ever win a U.S. gymnastics women's collegiate national championship. This took place in Westchester, Pennsylvania. Of course, Morgan, a sophomore, posted a 39.225 total score. She got a 9.85 on the floor exercise, a 9.85 on the vault, 9.8 on the bars, and 9.750 on the balance beam to secure the championship. Morgan and her coach, Corinne Tarver, join us now. Glad to have both of you here. Morgan, when you decided to pass up other well-known programs that had gymnastic programs, you know, major schools, PWIs, you were like, all right, let's go to Fisk and make some history.

Didn't take you long. Yeah. Talk about the experience. Talk about what it was like performing this weekend and then, of course, hearing your name called as number one. Yeah, so I made it to nationals last year as well, but I didn't really perform how I wanted to. And I know this year,

I worked even extra hard so that I could hopefully get the national title. And so after my competition, I knew that I did like pretty good, but I honestly didn't know that I got first because I had to wait for the second session to go. But after I found out that I won, I was just really proud of myself and really grateful to be on an HBCU gymnastics team. Corinne this is also why you wanted to lead this program and so you gotta be feeling pretty good yourself. Yeah definitely it's great to be able to show that, you know, like we like to say, black girl magic, but that you don't necessarily have to be at a major school or a huge school in order to be successful in the sport of gymnastics. And you can be at an HBCU and still have, you know, a national championship. And it leads to things such as us being interviewed here today. You know, on that particular point there, I mean, obviously we see what's happening

when it comes to football and when it comes to basketball. But what you're seeing over the last Wednesday and Thursday, I was in Augusta at, you know, for the Masters in Mercedes. They had the Morehouse men's golf team there. We look at some HBCUs are looking at adding lacrosse teams and other sports. And so what we're seeing also, Morgan, are black athletes competing in what we call non-traditional sports. It's not just about if you're an African-American that you have to, it must be basketball, it must be football, it can be other sports that black athletes can excel at. Yes, of course.

So for you, when did you first start in gymnastics? I started when I was two years old. So for you, when did you first start in gymnastics? I started when I was two years old. Started with two. And obviously, we often hear that, Corinne, a lot of gymnasts start very, very, very young. Have you seen, since Morgan arrived on the campus, since this program started, have you gotten a lot of outreach from other parents who now are interested in their children coming to Fisk to be a part of the gymnastic team? Well, we get a lot of young kids that are wearing our leotards and wearing our t-shirts. And so we love seeing that.

We love seeing, and it's not even just little girls of color. We see lots of little girls that have a fiscal leotard on. And, you know, those that want to be a part and want to do gymnastics, sometimes it was just a pipe dream maybe. And now they're starting to get serious about it. I've had parents say to me, oh, great, now my kid wants to be on team. And that's just a lot dream maybe. And now they're starting to get serious about it. I've had parents say to me, Oh great. Now my kids wants to be on team. And, and that's just a lot of commitment. So, um, not that they're not there for them. Of course they are,

but it is a lot of commitment in the sport of gymnastics. So we're excited to see what the future holds. And hopefully this means that at the grassroots and the lower levels, we'll see more young women of color. First, y'all can, if y'all send a fist gymnastic shirt, t-shirt I'll wear it on the show. We'll bypass the leotard. Let's go to, let's go to questions from our panel. Renita, you first.

Morgan, congratulations. This is such a heartwarming story. Congratulations to your big win and making history. Just know that whatever happens in the future, you have already done an amazing job, and this is something that is just amazing for the community as a whole to see. I do want to ask you, what are your plans for the future? I'm sure you have a bright future ahead of you. Are you trying to make it to the Olympics, or what are your goals for being a gymnast overall? Well, first I want to say thank you so much. I don't really have plans to go to the Olympics, really just, I've already kind of lived out my dream of being an HBCU gymnast. So I'm just going to enjoy the next two years that i have being on this team um i my future goals also include being

a gymnastics head coach so that will be like one of my main goals after i finish college good let me follow up on that one because i mean obviously uh the olympics is a whole different deal so so morgan are you saying that in order for it to go after an Olympic bid, that that alters your student schedule, that alters your schedule of being on the team? Or are you just not interested in pursuing an Olympic spot? Well, for the Olympics, it's kind of kind of hard well it's extremely hard for gymnastics and normally you do it before you get to college gymnastics um not saying that you can't reach that goal after college gymnastics but it is a whole different type of training and personally me i did not want

to train for that again i just wanted to be an HBCU gymnast and win national titles. So it's just not really in my mindset. Karina, can you explain that for people who really don't understand really that difference? Because we've seen other collegiate gymnasts, gymnasts, you know, perform there. But when you look at many of the, many of the gymnasts who, you know, who are on the national teams, they actually aren't tied to any university team. Yes. So what happens is when you're training elite, you're basically training 40 hours a week. It's a full time job. So in order to truly do it, you do see some college gymnasts do it,

but it's really hard on the body because the college gymnastics season beats up the body as it is because they compete every single weekend. And it's a very condensed amount of time so they start in january they're done by april and they put more they do more competitions than they do when they're in club gymnastics so um it's hard to then finish your college season and then all of a sudden do an elite season so you don't see too many people try it just because honestly the body can't hold it up very much. If you look at the girls, other than Jay Carey, most of the girls who did college gymnastics

and are going for the Olympics have dropped out of school for the semester or for the year to train for the Olympics. So it's a completely different type of training. Our athletes train about 15 to 20 hours a week, depending on the week, compared to 40 hours a week when you're elite. So for many of the girls, when they get to college, their bodies are kind of already beat up a little bit, and they're just not really looking to kind of maintain that type of training it's a lot it's a lot and then do it and then only have maybe

what four people five people actually going to make the team so to do so much and you have to give up so much to not necessarily have as big of a chance for them. They just enjoy college. I'm a Congo. Morgan, congratulations. This is really such an amazing feat. And looking at the videos, I want to ask you, how do you decide to just or when did you decide to just get out there and be yourself? You seem very authentic. You just seem like you're just out there being free, enjoying who you are. And many times when we get in, as Roland was saying, these nontraditional spaces, we kind of feel like we have to conform and change up who we are. But you're just there showing that grace, showing that blackness, showing that incredible skill.

What's it like, you know, just deciding to be authentic and just getting out there and being who you are in this space? I feel like it came from when I was a little girl doing gymnastics, honestly. I've always loved to just put on a show every time I go out there because I would never want the crowd to like watch my gymnastics and feel like it's boring ever, especially in my floor team. So in my floor team, I really like to express my emotions and just show kind of my personality. And I feel like that just helps me do gymnastics as well because I love the sport. I love my team, the school, and everything about gymnastics. So adding my little, like, personality and pizzazz just really helps me. And I feel like that differentiates me from other gymnasts.

Julianne? Well, first off, Morgan and Corinne, congratulations. You've made HBCU history, and I think it's really great. Morgan, I enjoyed watching you. All that sass and all of that and the grace, the combination was amazing. was the first HBCU to participate in a figure skating competition. We see others fencing and golf that we see our African-American young men and women participating in. Were there barriers that you did not anticipate, Morgan or Corinne, as you entered this competition? Our biggest barrier is the fact that we're an NAai school not an ncaa school so it's not so much connected to being an hbcu but being um not being in the same league though we we have the obstacles so we can't bring an entire team and we can only bring one athlete per event plus one all-arounder so a maximum of five

sometimes this year it because of scratches and people who are injured there were opportunities to bring more but you know we're not really able to bring every athlete who qualifies so that is a little bit disappointing and it is something that we are working towards. It's something every year that when I sit in meetings, I propose that we be allowed to bring more athletes. And so I think it's a matter of time before they will change that and allow us to bring more athletes. But I think about being in in these spaces the obstacles I mean the one good thing about gymnastics is your your talent is going to speak for itself so if you have an amazing vault it's going to speak for itself you don't you don't have to convince someone you have a great vault

it either it is or it or it's not so you know a lot of the obstacles are self-inflicted, you know, is how much you work, how hard you work, how much dedication you have. So as long as you are able to get out there and get the job done, who's going to take that away? Now, it doesn't mean that that doesn't happen. Doesn't mean that the subjectiveness of the sport can't hurt athletes of color because it most definitely does but you know all we can do is keep plugging away and you know training hard and really being better than everyone else no but other college athletes have talked about locker room sabotage like it's strings being cut stuff like that Did you experience any of that, Morgan? No, ma'am. I did not.

Gymnastics is not. Gymnastics is a different world. I mean, if you could have been there, you would have seen that the athletes from, it didn't matter what team it was, they were all cheering for Morgan and the other athletes from Talladega. Everybody was cheering. It didn't matter who they were. So we've gotten amazing

reception from the athletes we've got amazing reception from coaches from the audience um i would say that we we're definitely one sport that doesn't seem to run into those kinds of issues um overall we're we're i mean it but there's a lot of love overall. We all cheer for each other. It doesn't matter what team you're on. Everybody came to see Lindenwood, which was their last competition ever, and everyone was there and in tears because

we felt for the girls of that team, and we wanted to support them. So I don't think it really matters. Our sport just doesn't work that way. All right then. Well, Corrine and Morgan, we certainly appreciate y'all joining us. Continued success with the Fisk University gymnastics team. Thank you.

Thank you so much. And shout out to former president Van Newkirk senior for green lighting the creation of that team as well also folks over the weekend north carolina ant cheer team they also uh won a cheering competition uh some say they were the first to do so and in fact they weren't texas southern university they were the first uh but still big congratulations to North Carolina A&T. Let me thank Julianne, Renita, and Omokongo for being on today's show. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. I'm going to go to a quick break. When we come back, I'm going to share a little bit of the video from the Monday after the Masters.

I caught up with Sterling Sharp, and today's show is Craig Melvin. We had a little fun before we teed off today. I'm going to show you that when we come back. On the next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, it's spring. Hallelujah. But hold on. It's not all fun and games. With the sun and the warmth comes the need to clean the clutter mentally,

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It's Mr. Dalvin right here. What's up? This is KC. Sitting here representing the J-O-D-E-C-I. That's Jodeci. Right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding,

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Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

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And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. All right, fam, I'm about to jet out the door because hooting the blowfish uh gonna be performing uh in a few minutes and so i'm gonna head on out but before i do so uh a little earlier today we had the um golf tournament it's the um it's called the monday after the masters uh hooting the blowfish they've been doing this for more than 20 years almost almost 30 years, benefiting a lot of the South Carolina state golf programs. There were a lot of the young golfers who were out there today, and so it was great seeing everybody out there. Before the golf tournament, I got a bunch of the stuff that I shot,

but I had a lot of fun running into my man Sterling Sharp, a native of South Carolina, and Craig Melvin from the Today Show. Just want to show you all a little of the shenanigans. That's right. I mean, he calls and writes and texts. So he's always in my good graces. He doesn't vote. But you don't call.

You don't write. Really? How you going to come down south? Don't let me have to pull the text messages out. How you got to come down south and not holler at you, dude? How you do that? But you know what? Because you're wearing Jackie today, I'm going to give you a reprieve.

Absolutely. Give you a reprieve. But I heard you swam by Beaumont you didn't call. Hey, hey, you know what? Show this. I show this. Oh, y'all good, baby? Yeah, I can't complain. How about you, sir? Oh, good. I know this. Y'all good, baby? Yeah, I can't complain.

How about you, sir? Oh, good. I know you're hitting them well. Mr. I'm not going to the driving range. I did. I went and parked at something, and I'm back in the car. Wonder when the 10 o'clock tournament is going to start. And what time is it now?

10 o'clock. Wait, what time is it? He's such a stickler. 1003? He's such a stickler for detail. I like starting on time. Because you know, you know what they say about those people and time. Yeah, but I mean it was.

You're right. You can't put that. Can't put it all on us. No. Can't put it all on us. Wait a minute. Is this South Carolina bag? What we got here?

Yeah, I got to rep my school now. Okay. Yeah, got my hair covered, you know. You got to have your bag with your name on it. Oh, yeah. Hold on, I got mine with my picture on it and everything. Oh, my bad. I got to go, so I got to.

Come on, come on, you want to go? No, I got to up my game. No, I'm talking about like my shows on the side. Right. Pictures on it and my name on it. Ken was saying, Ken said he saw it. Ken. Roll him. Ken Duke. Ken Duke, roll him up. How you doing?

Yeah, he said he saw your bag yesterday. It's not. I don't know if I put that on. Yeah. No, no, no. It's, you know. But I almost brought my Texas A&M bag. But considering how we've been beat the hell out of the Gamecocks since we got to the SEC, I don't want to bring up any, you know,

emotions. Who's y'all coaching now? It don't matter. Who's y'all coaching? I think we lost South Carolina one time since we've been to the SEC. Hey, man, y'all are an ATM machine for coaches. Yeah. But as long as we beat South Carolina, I'm good.

Okay. And that happens consistently. I'm going to change that because I'm going to get the job. Changing that. Oh, you're going to get the job? Shane's doing a good job. Me and Shane are going to work it out. Right, but he's still going to be there.

He's going to be there. He got his one. That's all we need. We just need one. Right. I think they're like one and twelve. Maybe eleven. One and eleven.

They're at one and eleven. Still just one. It's better than one and twelve. It's going to be one and twelve in the fall. Maybe 11. 1 in 11? Yeah, 1 in 11. Still just 1. It's better than 1 in 12. It's going to be 1 in 12 in the fall. So Sterling, when are we going to see you on Club Che Che? Oh, I was first before it blew up. See, I don't know.

But you got to come now for part two. No, no, no, because they're too big now. It's blown up. You know, they talking about folks on there now. I don't want no parts of that. I'm incognito. So they gotta go dig yours in the crates. Mine is in the box. Nice, smooth, yeah, man, loved you as a kid,

that kind of thing. Yeah, we ain't going on there now. They too big now. They too important. I don't want no parts of that. I don't want no parts of that. Hit it straight, baby. I'll see you after.

All right. Take a spot and have at it. They'll appreciate it very much. So maybe that's really it. Maybe he's already moved. No, I haven't seen him. So which are your clubs, Craig? I'm using rental clubs.

That's how seriously I take the game. I don't travel with clubs. Oh my God. They're up there. Oh my God. Yeah, I can't travel with kids rental clubs. That's how seriously I take the game. I don't travel with clubs. Oh, my God. They're up there. Oh, my God. Yeah, I can't travel with kids and clubs. Plus, we're going to Florida after this. Yeah, you bring clubs with you.

No, it's too much. Fake golfer. I am. I've never pretended to be a real golfer. Never pretended. These are my beautiful rental clubs. These are your rental clubs. These are my wife's.

These are mine. I went down to the range, and I quit. I stopped. Yeah, because they're rental clubs. These are my wives, these are mine. I went down to the range and I quit. I stopped. Yeah, because they're rental clubs. Yeah, well, that's what I'm going to blame it on today, too. Oh, Craig, you're shanking. I have rental clubs. Where are you? Where's your car? Huh? Where's your car? Okay, let me show you mine. Come on back here. Let me show you mine, Craig. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. My, Craig, you're not hard to spot. I'm not surprised by that. Mine's not hard to spot, Craig.

Now we can't see you smoking. Here we go. Is that you? See, Craig, here we go. Here we go, Craig. I should have known. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I should have known. Wow. You know, customize clubs, you know. You take the game seriously. Come on, now. Good Lord. Good Lord.

I don't think I realized you played as much golf as you do. Yes. I played now 35 years. Good night. 37 years. Look at that head shot. Look at that. Come on, now.

That's branding, baby. Got to put the show on the side. Come on, now. I got to be honest with you. I've actually never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. I can't have a regular golf bag. No, you can't. Can't do it. with you. I've actually never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. I can't have a regular golf bag.

No, you can't. Can't do it. No, it's a regular. Oh, wait a minute. Stretching stick. Because you're going to be already. Hold up. Massager.

Oh, my God. Go ahead. Turn it on. You can give it a try. That's a chance. Light shows up at the bottom. Hold it down. Hold it down. Light shows. There we bottom. Hold it down. Hold it down.

Light shows. There we go. Press 1, 2, 3. 3 is a high speed. I'm in the wrong court. See, I come prepared, baby. Bob Chase is looking. Man, that's nice.

I come prepared. You got to hit the shoulders. You got to hit the hip flexor, the calves. Come on now. Man, the sad part is this ain't going to help me at all. No. That's good. Hey, that stays in the backpack.

I got three of them. One in the home gym. One stays in the backpack. And I got the backup. Come on. Thank you got the backup. Come on. Thank you. All good. See?

NABJ journalists, NABJ members helping out NABJ members. What are you doing? I walked over here. We're about to start here. Can you do my... Have a little good time. All right, y'all. For the rest of the week, I'm going to have some more video from from the golf tournament. I'm about to head on out because the concert is starting. I must have some of that for y'all as well. Got to show you my man, Darius Rucker. And I got he wants me to do something

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