#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Trump's troops gas wall of moms; Black woman VP choice could boost Biden; Bill introduced to fix VRA

Episode Date: July 26, 2020

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Today is Thursday, July 23rd, 2020. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, Donald Trump, we tried to tell you, cancels Republican National Convention in Jacksonville. Idiot. Coronavirus? Yeah, that's why. Speaking of that, his troops tear gas Portland's wall of moms,

and the mayor last night will give you those details. A new poll shows that choosing a black woman to be Joe Biden's vice president could give him a boost with young voters and white women. We'll talk with the authors of that poll. Also, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a few words to say to Congressman Ted Yoho, the one who called her out of her name and refused to apologize for it. Wait until you see what she said today on the House floor.

Republicans keep cranking out anti-Trump ads. We'll show you the latest viral videos, including a newer from VoteVets. And Joe Biden releases his conversation with former President Barack Obama. Plus, Senator Patrick Leahy introduced a bill to restore the Voting Rights Act of 1965 in the name of Congressman John Lewis

in the United States Senate. And Atlanta radio stations have banded together to get out the vote. Plus, former cast members of Survivor speaks out about diversity and inclusion on the show. And of course, crazy-ass white people. Why does white woman won't let a brother just deliver food? What is wrong with y'all? It's time to bring the funk on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Let's go.

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Then what happened? Cases spiked in Florida. Now, idiot-in- chief had to announce this today. This afternoon, my political team came to me and laid out our plans for the convention in Jacksonville, Florida. It's a place I love. I love that state. The drawings look absolutely beautiful. I never thought we could have something look so good, so fast with everything going on. And everything was going well. A tremendous list of speakers, thousands of people wanting to be there. And I mean, in some cases, desperately be there. They wanted to attend people making travel arrangements all over the country. They wanted to be there. The pageantry, the signs, the excitement were really, really top of the line. But I looked at

my team and I said, the timing for this event is not right. It's just not right with what's happened recently, the flare-up in Florida. To have a big convention, It's not the right time. It's really something that, for me, I have to protect the American people. That's what I've always done. That's what I always will do. That's what I'm about. They said, sir, we can make this work very easily.

My pal, Dr. Greg Carr, Chair, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University, Reese Colbert, Black Women's Views, Erica Savage Greg Carr, Chair, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University, Reese Colbert, Black Women's Views, Erica Savage-Wilson, host, Savage Politics Podcast. This dumbass ain't fooling nobody. Dr. Carr, all of a sudden,

he didn't want to listen. He was so arrogant, and now he can't have his big parties. So it's like, sorry. And remember, they were just praising Ron DeSantis. They're doing a great job in Florida. And DeSantis wagging his finger at the media. Now cases are spiking left and right. The Jacksonville sheriff announced, I don't even have the people to protect folks at a convention. Now it's not going to happen. Oh. Roland, I tell you, man, I'm glad, you know, one of our coping mechanisms

is humor and we have to cope. Donald Trump's coping mechanism in this in this pandemic is denial. And he is clearly not well. He's clearly mentally ill. He's deteriorating before our eyes. He's gone back before the cameras now with his daily briefings, with his breathless, sing-songy, out-of-breath moments. Ah, well, you know, and he went from Charlotte to Jacksonville to oblivion. He's trailing Joe Biden by 13 points in Florida. And, of course, we know there's a Trump effect. There's some liars in that poll. But even the liars can't make that gap up. So we'll see. As Donald Trump might say, we'll see what happens. Well, I just think it's hilarious. I just think it's hilarious, Erica,

to sit here and watch this idiot stand there. This is on his watch. Coronavirus has exploded because this idiot sat there and mocked Joe Biden and others for wearing masks, did not lead when it comes to testing, praised Ron DeSantis back in May. Then all of a sudden, and anybody who understands coronavirus, your numbers don't kick in for at least six to eight weeks when they reopen the state. Same thing in Texas. Greg Abbott, those idiot Republicans in Texas were fighting with Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner to have their state convention. And then when he announced it ain't going to happen at the George Brown Convention Center, they sued him. And a judge said, no, you can't do it. No state

conference. These Republicans are the ones who are leading these people to ignore mask mandates, to fight against the proper way to social distance, and now egg on this idiot's face after all the trash talking he did against North Carolina and his Democratic governor, Roy Cooper. Right, Roland, and I'm so glad that you ran us through all of those failed leadership moments, because these are the things that we're going to have to continue to keep before the American people, because we've seen that specifically in a political climate, that moments sometimes have very short lived histories. And so for people to understand that this is a mediocre person who would send children back to school with the certainty of death, to understand that this is a person who is sending federal agents to cities that are largely black and brown bodies, that this, again,

is another example of how he's weaponizing the current office that he's in right now. And I'm glad that you brought in the Republicans, because the obsequious of the Republicans has to be put before voters face every day. It would be funny. But for the fact we have one hundred and forty seven thousand people that have passed away due to coronavirus and that we are nearing four million confirmed cases in the U.S. and being banned from several countries, specifically the European Union. So I think as those pieces collectively come together, that this is what voters and potential voters need to be reminded of every day, what's really on the ballot. And look, Reese, see, they're getting exactly what they deserve. We have had an abdication of leadership by Donald Trump and his imps in his administration.

They have attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci. They have attacked Joe Biden. They have attacked Governor Andrew Cuomo. They have attacked so many people. And 140,000 people are dead. We're seeing record cases every single day. And then they're just touting, oh, we're doing a great job. And the polls are disagreeing with them left and right

because people are seeing what happens when you do not know how to lead. Yeah, and I think that this is really a survival tactic for Donald Trump because he's seen these polling numbers out of Florida and they look really bad. So it's probably a good idea to not infect to potentially kill off a large part of your base down in Florida.

And so I think that this is all about his self-interest. It's not about putting the American public first. And I think it's him trying to walk back in this minor, in the most minor way, this hole that he's dug himself into. Unfortunately, he has so many people that have bought into his propaganda and his delusions that it's a little, it's going to be a lot harder to put this jack back in the box and get people on board with what we need,

which is at least 95% of the country wearing masks at all times and social distancing. Well, again, I want people out there to understand that coronavirus, I saw this tweet, Greg, and it said it best. Coronavirus is Trump's Vietnam. I don't know, Roland. You know,

the reason I'm hesitating is because, as you said in earlier shows, Trump is trying to execute a variation of the 1968 Nixon playbook. He's running a complete white nationalist party campaign now. In fact, they should just stop saying GOP and call it WNP. They are the white nationalists.

And, you know, this far out from November, with the post office clearly taking hits every day, I don't know if you've noticed the mail being slower and less, you know, less reliable with the attack against mail-in voting. You know, there's really no way to predict, particularly as this thing fractures into states and localities and even in places like Georgia, where the Deltas mounted a big mask-up campaign today. The governor of Georgia is still attacking the mayor of Atlanta. You know, it's hard to say this far out, Roland. It's certainly going to be a quagmire.

But they are banking on the fact that they can shrink the electorate enough to be able to rally their white nationalist base and somehow steal this election one more time. It seems like, as Recy said, this is their full-blown strategy now. Which is why what has to happen here, Recy, this has to happen. And what I keep telling people,

how do you outsmart them? What we should be focusing on right now is what is the first day you can request your absentee ballot? What's the first day you can get that? We've got to be using all of our platforms, telling our people, don't wait to the last second to get it and then mail it in. We should be, what's the first day? And then when that sucker comes in, mail it back. So the first thing, Reesey, is, all right, what are, when do you start, or what are the deadlines for registering to vote in November? One of the things that we're going to start doing is compiling that and start giving those dates. This is July right now. Start

giving those dates. These are the deadlines. Don't wait for the last second. If you think your address has changed, fill out a new application so they can't see you here and play that game. And then, once registration is over, now you can start requesting your ballot and then getting that in. And so I don't want us, forget CP time, folks joking about that.

I want us to be early and all of a sudden they look up and go, what the hell was going on? Absolutely. And I want to shout out Vote.org, which is a black woman owned and led organization that focuses on this very thing. We have to be talking about strategies at the individual level. Yes, we know that there is going to be massive voter suppression, but what are the individual steps that we can take to protect our vote as much as possible? And to your point, Roland, it involves being early in terms of requesting your ballot. It involves double checking, triple checking, quadruple checking that you are registered.

It involves educating yourself in how to properly fill out your ballot so that they cannot use the absentee ballots as an excuse to target surgically target voter suppression by by throwing out these ballots make sure that you understand the rules for target effort training in your ballot making sure that it has the proper signatures make sure that it has everything filled out we have to cross our t's and dot our eyes because they are coming for our vote so we have to be that much smarter about our strategies about execution about the, about following up with our vote. And if you can vote early, then sign up to go work the polls, because that's going to be a whole nother issue on voting day and early voting that we're going to have to deal with. But yes, we individually can do something to make it as hard as possible for them to suppress our vote in the way that they want to. And again, Erica, you have to be proactive. The reality is you're not going to be

seeing the typical campaigns we're used to, door-to-door campaigns. You're not going to see voter registration events taking place at concerts, taking place at major events, because there are not going to be any major events. We're already seeing it right now. I can tell you right now, don't be surprised if we're going to have distance learning, online school, so you can forget. And again, I know people don't like it, but guess what? All of those HBCU football classics, bye-bye. Homecomings, bye-bye.

And so right now, people have to be understanding digital, digital, digital. And this was this was why. And look, I praise the Lord because what a vision came from. But in 2017, when TV one canceled my show, I said, hmm, Tom Jones retiring in December 19. We've got to make sure that we have a vehicle that's reaching African-Americans is going to be in position in the 2020 election And so that's why that was that was the whole strategy I said we launched in 2018 give us a whole year and a half to really build up So once to a year once 2020 dropped boom and ready to go and that was the whole piece And so now all these black groups out here and other black media,

they're now scrambling, trying to figure out a digital strategy. And this is how we communicate and get the word out every single day. That was exactly the plan. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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Unfiltered Cash App right now to make sure this type of media continues to be elevated. And so, listen, you know, we're at a very critical place. And so people have a decision to make about their platforms. They can continue to utilize their platforms to really, in a way that does not draw attention to what is necessary at this time, which is people, as Recy talked about, having that whole mechanism of understanding voting, voting by mail, absentee ballot, voting by home, however it is that a person calls that particular naming convention, we have got to be prepared. That is one thing that I've been talking about on my platform for at least a couple of

years now is to, number one, have a voting plan. Recy mentioned vote.org, which I love that organization. I love that whole platform because what it also provides is a COVID electoral hub so that people can see within their specific state all of the different changes that are happening in their state. It gives all that information that you talked about, Roland, which is knowing, knowing, knowing what your state's registration dates are, knowing all of those specific dates, and it updates hourly. So I echo Recy in talking about vote.org and people need to get informed. You can even go ahead and register and you can make application for your online ballot from that platform. But this is the time where people have to make decisions about what the rest of the year looks like. We still have 2020 census ongoing, and they have a big faith weekend rollout

happening this weekend as well. So we need people to really be very honed in on what is the main thing. The main thing is ensuring that not only this occupant of the White House, but his vice president, all of those that are in his regime are fired effectively.

So we can begin about making COVID the public health crisis that it is. And then all the other issues as well. Folks, let's talk about Portland, where Mayor Ted Wheeler was tear gassed by federal officers, along with a large crowd of protesters last night after he tried for hours to calm angry activists demanding police reform from City Hall and calling for federal authorities to withdraw from his mostly liberal, mostly white city. Nightly protests have dominated downtown Portland for nearly two months after the murder of George Floyd. The wall of moms were joined by a wall of dads with leaf blowers to get rid of the tear gas. Also, Donald Trump threatened to send the same folks to Chicago.

Mayor Lori Lightfoot said absolutely not. The U.S. attorney there brokered a compromise where the additional federal agents will not be on the streets, will be helping in other ways. right now, Erica, where Black Lives Matter and others are filing lawsuits in Chicago to ensure that those federal agents are not going to be using their power on the ground there as well. I'm going to pull up this story in just a second that speaks to that. This is from the Chicago Sun-Times. According to this story, a Black Lives Matter lawsuit asked federal court to rein in federal law officers Trump is sending to Chicago. And so according to their story, that Black Lives Matter Chicago and other social justice groups filed a lawsuit on Thursday against federal law enforcement agencies seeking to prevent federal agents being deployed in Chicago by President Trump from harassing and detaining protesters. Yeah. And again, I mean, this is why we need people to go ahead and begin to create a voting plan. This occupant, no matter what his stability or his condition is, is hell bent on everyone bowing to him. And he is willing to knock over whatever statues. He is willing to

use the Constitution as his format, as he has been doing since he was president-elect. Remember, we talked about last week that he is an emoluments president as well. And so I think that in this moment where people are seeing that it's not just Black and brown people that are being terrorized by law enforcement and federal agencies, which has been the history for this country. But now they're seeing this level of violence, this level of commitment to tyranny, this level of deconstructing the administrative state at all costs is now applicable to maybe some of even those Trump voters. And I think that as people look at this

imagery, and it's really sad that the imagery has to be less melanated sometimes for people to really take to task and see how serious it is to use the Department of Homeland Security to weaponize and terrorize urban centers, as they are called, or largely black and brown populated places, that people will have a real understanding that this is a president and a attorney general who find no shame and boldly proclaim that all must bow to what they believe to be this unilateral type of decision-making and authority who is, they say, the White House occupant. Recy, here's a comment from Ainsley Pulley, a founder of Black Lives Matter Chicago.

Anthony, go to my iPad. She told a crowd of about 150 demonstrators Thursday, this is according to the Chicago Sun-Times, quote, we see what's happening in Portland. That was the first test case, and now it's coming here. This is not a threat. This is a promise that we will not back down. We are defending our rights to freedom of assembly and airing our grievances against this government, which are in the Constitution. What Donald Trump wants to do, according to Congressman Bobby Rush on the Joe Madison show yesterday,

we didn't get just to play yesterday. I want to play the audio today where he said Trump wants to instigate a race war. Trump wants the fight. Trump wants the tear gas. He wants to scare white people into saying, see, I'm the one who can get these people under control. I'm the one who can only protect you. Are you going to play the clip or you got me to respond? No, no, you go ahead. You go ahead. We're setting the clip up. Go ahead. Yeah. No, I agree. And this is something that Senator Kamala Harris said is that the biggest threat, one of the biggest threats to our national security is race and racism.

And the Trump administration is using this reckoning that we have around the murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery and the Black Lives Matter movement to really execute their authoritarianism throughout the entire country. If we look at what's happening in Portland, if they will tear gas white soccer moms and white Navy veterans, then you know good and damn well what's in store for black people. But the difference is that because there wasn't the kind of backlash and the uprising that there should have been for this authoritarianism, Chad Wolf, who's a former tennis player who must think he's in some sort of episode of Sicario or the trilogy of Sicarioario is out there having people

play G.I. Joe on the streets of Portland and nobody's doing a damn thing about it. I shouldn't say nobody, but they're getting away with it essentially despite the protests, despite the legislation, despite the lawsuits. And this is just something that now, to your point, they're going to move to these urban centers to antagonize and instigate and get the media back on, get their attention back on these streets and these urban centers to say to the white folks, hey, look at these big, bad black people who are antagonizing or who are fighting with people who are in camouflage, who are supposedly there to protect. So this is all part of his authoritarianism.

It's part of his white nationalist agenda, as Dr. Carr said. And it's a test run for just an increased dissension into lawlessness, not from the people of the United States, but from the Trump administration. Greg Carr, we were about to play this sound yesterday. This is Congressman Bobby Rush of Illinois speaking on the Joe Madison Show on Sirius XM Radio. Thank you. Let me ask you this about something that is currently going on, and that is that the president, the Trump administration, Homeland Security,

they are now talking about that they may send in, and I use air quotes, law enforcement types into your city, Chicago. And this is a two-part question. Now, the mayor there said, no, this is not going to happen. And she's going to use whatever resources she can muster to make sure or deploy to make sure what happened in Portland doesn't happen in Chicago. And number two, I just had a discussion argument with a caller who took exception with the fact that that i i i made the point we don't need military styled weapons battlefield weapons in with buying in our police local police

department can you respond to both of those points? Well, I think history is, to me, my near brother, history is the ultimate teacher of the past. History can predict the present, and history certainly can kind of predict the future. And as we look at the history of, you know, to me, what Trump is doing, he's picked up just it all, and he's a student of the true-fledged plan, all right? And this is nothing but a book out of the arrows and out of the strategies and techniques of proof of slant. You know, anytime you send, I don't care if they're federal agents, I don't care whatever they are, anytime you send an armed militia, armed group of basically white men. We have not seen any blacks in this contingency of federal agents. But any time you send a group of armed bandits, outlaws, in a uniform, no name, no name, no identification. And you just snatch up innocent people or innocent people.

And you take them and, you know, you take them off to some unrecognized, unknown place. You know, you know, you are really terrorizing our nation. You're terrorizing communities. And for Trump to talk about sending federal agents in Chicago, we want to stand for it. You know, and I think that when Trump is really trying to do my prayer, I think that Trump is really trying to instigate a race war. He wants to have a reaction. If, in fact, these armed agents are deployed into Chicago,

there's some guys in Chicago that ain't going to accept that. I mean, they're not, if he sends them in, he better not send them into the the hardcore South Side, West Side. He better keep them, send them over to the Gentile North Side. And they come in, I'm not advocating that, but I just know that that's what Trump's game plan. Trump wants to instigate a race war. He want to have black folks fighting white folks. So he can rise up and say, I'm the real grand wizard of the truth club plan, and I'm the president.

He really likes me. That's what he's trying to do. He's trying to play to the experience, to the racial animus that exists among certain white people. And he would do everything and anything to do that, because he wants to be reelected at all costs. Now, we don't need in Chicago, we don't need federal agents. We need federal aid. All right? Send some money here to create some summer jobs. That will do more to curtail our ways of matters in Chicago than any federal troop could possibly or agent could possibly do. Send aid.

Don't send federal agents. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company

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in the community with a credit score of 700 or higher. Well, see, this is the problem, I think, when we don't begin any analysis, including an economic analysis, when we don't put race at the center, because there are people with high credit scores who live in Chicago who will be harmed. Many of the mothers who are out in Oregon, most of them, in fact, are non-black. They're white.

And many of them have excellent credit scores. Didn't stop them from trying to sing a lullaby, hands up, don't shoot, and getting tear gassed by these Klansmen that Trump has recruited. And make no mistake, by evoking the federal troops, by evoking the Customs and Border Patrol and Department of Homeland Security and Federal Protective Service and FBI, U.S. Marshals, Trump has under his control through the atoge general Bill Barr, they have a group that is skewered toward white nationalism. So you know, Bobby Rush is right, and he would know.

After all, two of his comrades were slaughtered by local police in 1969, Mark Clark and Fred Hampton. And so he knows. But you know, again, this strategy is very clear. They are going to either try to steal the upcoming federal election or figure out a way to either nullify it or not have it at all. And let's understand, again, Roland, you've been talking about this. I mean, the Congress House of Representatives has the hero act back three trillion dollars back in May. McConnell will not bring it to the floor. Steve Mnuchin today talking about, you know, we won't give people $600 a week. Let's say however much money you make,

if you're making $300, we'll give you 70% of that. That's fair. This man got the nerve to talk through his mumble mouth, jaw wired, child of privilege behind about something that's fair. But the point is that McConnell won't bring it up on the Senate side, but yet today he introduced a motion to stop discussion and debate over the nomination of William Scott Harvey to be on the federal bench for the Western District of Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania, United States District Court. Why is that important in this instance? It's legal to send federal law enforcement into state and local situations if you have

probable cause. Now, Bill Barr has said that it's the protests that are triggering this. The protests are triggering this. So he, Barr, Tony Barr, is looking for probable cause to hold up in court. So when Black Lives Matter and everyone else goes to court, they're going to the branch of the government that these, the white nationalist party has worked over the last three years to stack. This is why it's so important the rest of the vote. People say, oh, I don't know about

voting. They're all the same parties. OK, everybody says it's all the same parties. You can tune out now and get ready to get your pump shot guns. And I know you're training for survivalists. Get ready to go out in the street, because what they are moving toward now is a situation where they don't have to formally declare martial law. And Trump ticked off the stories. His mind is clearly being eaten by whatever disease is eating his brain. But he remembered all the cities. He remembered Detroit. He remembered New York. He said, oh, Oakland is a mess. That's because these are documents that are being talked about over and over in these

meetings he's on the periphery of. He doesn't have a good memory for things. His repetition makes that sink in. So to conclude, they are looking for probable cause to send these troops in. They're going to send in the shock troops that are most racist of law enforcement in this country. And unlike James Meredith in 1962 at Ole Miss, unlike 1992 in L.A., the probable cause

that they're going to use or try to use is the rebellion itself. So Bobby Rice, Bobby Rush is right. It is about race war. And it's also about war against anyone who will stand in the way of the white nationalist party. All right, folks, let's talk about the fact that Joe Biden still has not picked a vice president. He has already said that there are four black women who are he considering what we know, Senator Kamala Harris, Congresswoman Val Demings, former U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, as well as Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. Now, a recent poll finds that 60 percent of

millennial and Generation Z voters who are in key swing states say it's important that Joe Biden choose a black woman to be his running mate. That would be a little upsetting to the people who've been pushing Senator Elizabeth Warren, as well as those who are pushing Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth and others. Now, if Biden picks a black woman to be his vice president, not only is it predicted that he could be a presumptive Democratic nominee amongst young voters, but also white women and other key groups. The poll was done by Brilliant Corners Research and Strategies. And according to the poll, a total of 54 percent of minority women and a plurality

of white women and college educated women also agree it is important that a black woman be chosen. The poll was done on behalf of Higher Heights. They commissioned the poll. Joining us right now is Cornell Belcher, the president of Brilliant Corners Research and Strategies, and Glenda Carr, president and CEO of Higher Heights. Glenda, I'll start with you first. Why did y'all want this particular poll commissioned? Yeah. So, you know, Higher Heights for America is a national organization building the collective political power of black women from the voting booth to elected office. So, Roland, you know that black women lead the road to 2020, both as voters and as candidates. And so we thought it was important to back what we've been saying in the conversations we've been having with black women in our network about not only our interest in seeing a black woman as a vice president and the importance of what this means from a historical perspective, but frankly, at the end of the day, this election

is going to be about turnout and turnout outside the margins. And we've been saying that not only does a black woman VP candidate excite black women, data has already pointed to and races over the last couple of election cycles have actually shown that black women candidates are not only the building blocks to a winning coalition as voters, but they actually are candidates

that can build a coalition of voters that are diverse. And we wanted data to back that up. And this poll in partnership with Cornell Boucher and Karen Finney over at Brilliant Corners, actually points to not only that white women think that he should be looking at a black woman vice president and running mate, but young voters and minorities as a totality. So that shows that the diversity that black women bring as voters to the ticket as a candidate, as well as voters. So I'm so excited for Cornell to spend a little time digging into it. At the end of the day, a black woman will create, I think, the energy for us, not only to black women to go to the polls, but also organize their networks to the polls. And that includes bringing white women and young people with us. So Cornell, you and I have talked a number of times and you made it perfectly clear to Democrats, stop chasing these white,

suburban, conservative women and turn out more of your own people because otherwise you're going to get your feelings hurt every four years. When you look at these numbers here, so break down for us these particular poll numbers and what it reveals specifically as it comes to the need for Biden to pick a black woman as VP. Well, thanks so much, Roland. It's good to be with you again. And before I start, again, I just want to give a shout out to Glenda and Higher Heights. And if this is not an organization that you and your followers aren't supporting, please do, because the work they're doing to empower black women across this country is really important for us now. It's really important in the future. So if you're not supporting Higher Heights, do so as soon as possible.

That said, Roland, look, it's not even close in the numbers. We did this across the battleground states. And as you know, all the states are important. But the truth of the matter is this election is going to be determined in seven or eight states the way it always is. And so when you look at those battleground states and look at the voters most important for Biden, sort of take out certain Trump voters, because they shouldn't be a part of this conversation. The question isn't even close. By 27 points, voters in these battleground states agree that it's important for Biden to pick an African-American woman compared to a white woman. Only 21 percent of voters in these battleground states agree that it's important for Joe Biden to pick a white woman, while a 48% plurality in these battleground states

agree that it's important for him to pick an African-American woman. But beyond that, I think there's also potential backlash if they pick a white woman, because to see it in the data, because 43% of these voters, a plurality of these voters in the battleground states, disagree that it's important for him to pick a white woman. And the intensity around this, one that strongly agree that he should pick an African American woman is twice of the intensity of it is around whether or not he should pick a white woman. So when you look at the key cohorts in the electorate, particularly, look, and you know as well, Roland, the way college women broke in 2018 for Democrats, helped Democrats pick up seats all across the country that they hadn't won before,

helped make the suburbs blue in a way that they hadn't been before. And when you look at 47 percent of college women agree that he should pick an African-American woman compared to only 20 percent agree that he should pick a white woman. And you look at the young people where Biden has had a hard time, and not only Biden, but Hillary also, coming off of Barack Obama, Democrats have had a hard time energizing and growing and sort of energizing and mobilizing young voters. When you look at sort of how broadly and intensely millennials and Gen Zs agree that he should pick an African-American woman. I think it would be problematic if he didn't.

So not only is it, I mean, it's in the strategic interest, I think, for Democrats to put a diverse ticket out there, a ticket with an African-American woman on it. I was having this conversation with some folks and I told them this. It is very simple, Glenda and Cornell, that Joe Biden, frankly, doesn't have a choice. And the reason I said, now, he has a choice. But the reason I say Joe Biden doesn't have a choice is because black people saved his ass. But all black people, he's the nominee. And if he doesn't pick a black woman to be his VP choice, what he then does is he then solidifies the one thing that black people continue to say is we're tired of being political sharecroppers for democratic candidates, meaning we save your behind when you're in

trouble and then you don't reward black people when it's time and so when i remember when angela peoples was on here the other day talking about you know she was advancing the idea of senator elizabeth warren i said i understand i said but i'm telling you right now it's going to unleash a whole lot of vitriol from black folks saying oh so we save your butt and now you can't pick one of us when you have Emily qualified black women to be the choice. Linda, your thoughts on that? So 48 years ago, this 48 years ago in the summer of 1972, Shirley Chisholm was preparing to go to the Democratic Convention where her name was entered on the floor to be the first African-American, first woman to ever have their name entered

into nomination. Fast forward to 48 years, you now have, not only you had a Black woman that was running as a president candidate, you also now have, as you mentioned, Roland, not one Black woman to pick from, that there is a list that he said four this past week. There's a list of six that people have been talking about. If he doesn't choose a black woman, he's going to have to stand up and explain why he did not choose a black woman

from a qualified list. I mean, everyone keeps asking me, who is the black woman, right? And I was like, literally any of these women, they all come from different experiences, lived experiences, qualifications, and they all each bring something unique to the ticket and something unique to the administration. So it's going to be a hard day when he doesn't announce a black woman for him to actually explain why he hasn't. And then at the same time, determine how you're going to create the momentum

you're going to need from this important constituency to not only vote. I think it is clear that Afro-Americans are going to vote in this cycle. There's a question about, and I'll let Cornell speak to this, the difference between 2016 and 2008. And we need to grow those margins from a voter turnout. And you can't do that without particularly black women organizing their networks. Cornell. Look, I think that's spot on. But I want your audience to understand that we're at a really important moment in this country, potentially. And we are having conversations about justice and equality and diversity in the ways that we had.

In the polling data, you now see majorities of white voters think racism is a big problem in this country. And go back to 2008, you had a plurality of white voters in battleground states that actually thought reverse discrimination was a bigger deal than racism. So America's sort of slowly but surely beginning to sort of open up and have conversations about the importance of diversity. And I want to say that because an African-American woman is not just simply what black voters want. In these battleground states, it is what a plurality of the most important groups that's going to build a Joe Biden's coalition want.

So to me, strategically, it makes all the sense in the world. This is what voters want. This is a moment where voters are demanding change. They're looking for more diversity. They're looking for more expansive voices. And Black women are leading in that forefront. So to me, strategically, it's a no-brainer. And then, Roland, I would also add to that. it is not just this polling data that points to that.

It is the recent elections. So in 2018, five black women were elected to Congress. And four of those five black women represent districts that aren't districts of color, particularly Lauren Underwood. She represents a district that is only 3% black, which means that she overwhelmingly not only won in a Democratic primary, but in a general election with white voters. Lisa Blunt Rochester, who's on his VP selection committee, she's a congressional member that represents Delaware. Delaware only actually has one representative, House representative, which means she runs statewide in a state where she has galvanized a diverse electorate to vote for her not once, but several

times. This is going to be, obviously, an interesting decision that Joe Biden will have to make. He's going to make it soon. We're almost near the end of July. August is coming up. Democrats will be having their virtual convention. And so we certainly shall see what happens next. I also, let me also make this clear as well. And this is going to be important too. Glennon and Cornell, Democrats had better put their dollars where their mouth is. And that is, if you want to win, you better turn out your

people, which means you better spend money with black media, black owned media where black people are. Don't assume that we watch the Ellen show. We also watch other shows with black folks. And that's part of the deal there as well, Cornell, in terms of not only when you talk about how you want to get people out, you better know where we are and how we respond as well. And too often, Democrats have not done that and they pay the price. And then it's like, damn, we should have done something. And I say, listen to black people, listen to black pollsters, listen to black political analysts, listen to black campaign strategists, because we got a better idea about black people than these white folks. Cornell, final word.

You know, Roland, to be black in America, you have to be able to make your way through multiple communities in a way that some of my white colleagues don't have to. And this is something that you and I have talked about a long time. And I hope to come back on the show because there's a racial reckoning conversation that's going on across this country. And we need to have that racial reckoning conversation also in the progressive community, because there are some things within the progressive community that are also institutionally racist. And we need to have a reckoning about what's happening within the progressive community and within these progressive organizations.

Well, just let me know when you want to do it. We're here five days a week. We're always ready. Thank you, brother. All right. Appreciate it. Cornell Beltrick, Linda Carr, we appreciate it as well. Let's go to my panel here. Erica, I want to start with you.

I mean, the data is the data. And the reality is, you know, when everybody was talking about Senator Amy Klobuchar and was sitting there going, really? Like, really? And then they're throwing out every other name. And so here's the deal. This is not 20 years ago where you say, ah, well, you know, you don't have an African-American woman who's elected statewide and blah, blah, blah.

No, no. We got a United States senator. We got a former United States ambassador and national security advisor. You got a woman who was a sheriff in Orlando, now a member of Congress. You've got a woman who's the mayor of Atlanta. The excuses are all gone. Yeah, effectively, they are right. We know very well that data is an extension of currency. Also have an understanding that data is effectively what is used when we talk about the decennial census for businesses to make decisions about where they're going to place their business, if that's a good fit or not. So data has made a very pronounced place in all of our lives. And I think what this also shows in with those battleground states that Dr. Belcher shared is that three of those battleground states were Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

We take our minds back to 2016, understanding that it was about 77,000 votes that separated winning from losing. And we know that a lot of that was voter suppression. This data informs that there is an activated group of 18 to 39-year-olds that say that putting a black woman, specifically a black woman on the ticket, would cause them to be more engaged in the vote, which means that they can then catch fire to the people to their right and to their left. It's a win win. So I think that at this point, particularly as we're battling so many different pieces that this regime has laid to bear on all of its American citizenry that the Biden campaign, and I hope there's somebody that has brought this data forward to them, is somebody that's going to be talking about it as a priority on a daily basis. I think it's imperative that the Biden campaign go ahead and step up and make the

announcement about who is going to be the Black woman VP choice. Rishi. Yes. I mean, men lie, women lie, numbers don't. But I definitely want to caution the Biden campaign against picking and choosing which polling they want to go with, because across the board, the most important metric that has consistently come back in favor of black women is the enthusiasm metric. You are going to get a certain number of people out no matter what just by default of not being Donald Trump. But that number is just flat out not enough. We see that Joe Biden, Vice President Joe Biden, is actually running behind Hillary Clinton's percentages with black voters at this point. And that has been consistent across the polls for months now. The latest one that I've seen from NBC has him at 78 percent. So black voters bailed him out in his

campaign. They resuscitated his campaign. But black voters, a good portion of them are still saying, well, we have a chip that we want to cash in. And that chip is a black woman VP. And guess what? This is not a matter of just symbolism. Black women have the credentials. Y'all know I've made no bones about Senator Kamala Harris being my pick, and I have argued very fiercely for that. But the bottom line is, it's not just a Senator Kamala Harris issue at this point. He has very publicly dangled multiple Black women, and even as recently as Monday on Joy Reid's show, saying that he has four Black women that are in the final stretch. And so it is going to be impossible for him and his campaign or his non-black woman potential

VP pick to explain day in and day out to black people why all of those women were passed over. And there is no goddamn excuse for it. Greg. Well, you know, you see, Erica Rowland, never underestimate the stupidity of the Democratic Party. And it's unfortunate because the political immaturity of the American Negro continues to strengthen over the years, over the generations. I think if you took everybody's name off of their platform and their policy platform and had black people pick based on an analysis of the platforms and then unveiled the race of the person they picked, there'd be a lot

of people who would pick Elizabeth Warren. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about demographics. We're talking about a photo op, basically. And that's where America's people generally vote and that's where black people vote. Like I said, the political maturity of the American Negro has come closer and closer to the general political maturity of everybody in the country. And as I say this, Donald Trump's still leading among white voters.

Let's be very clear. Many of the polls show him 55% or more, somewhere around there, with whites with no college degree. So he's trying to get the seniors and the college-educated whites to try to, you know, they're trying to pick those off. But at the same time, we also see that Trump has made a few, a little inroad into Latinx voters. That's important. And as you say, Recy, he's, you don't see the same percentage supporting Trump in black communities, but all you need is two or 3% in a couple of battleground

states if you get it close enough to steal. So as far as I'm concerned, I agree with Cordell. I agree with Glenda. Any of them, with one exception, with one exception, with one exception, Susan Rice, their foreign policy, the Obama administration's foreign policy toward Africa is indefensible. It is anti-African, and we should be ashamed

to consider anyone who backed AFRICOM as heavily and did all that damage in Africa. So Susan Rice notwithstanding, in fact, I don't even know why she's even on the short list. And I think maybe that's the Biden administration that's trying to get, okay, we get a black woman, but we need a black woman

who's closer to our neoliberal policies. Boy, if Elizabeth Warren was black, I'd say put her on the ticket. But since people vote based on what they see, based on what they've read, just pick a black woman so we can get this election on and get this thing done and get this guy, get this Klansman out to office. But hold up, hold up now.

I have to respectfully disagree with you, Dr. Carr, because I am very, very, very well researched on Senator Elizabeth Warren and on Senator Kamala Harris. As y'all saw last week, Senator Elizabeth Warren and on Senator Kamala Harris. As y'all saw last week, Senator Elizabeth Warren's surrogate couldn't even, wasn't even familiar with her diversity statistics. And so I'm very much policy oriented and people can go out there and Google 20 for 20 credentials and not cosmetics. I make a completely substantive argument along with Star Jones. We had an hour and a half conversation on this topic. And so, no, it's absolutely not a matter

of just putting race over credentials. It's a matter of this is a situation where we can have both. Pick Kamala. I don't have any problem with it. No, no, no, no, no, no. And that sister last week was not prepared to talk about her campaign.

So, no, and let me be very clear. I'm not talking about demographics. In other words, what I'm saying, people are voting demographic. They're voting for the color of the candidate. They're not reading policy. You are, I am, Recy is, I mean, Eric is, Roland is, Cordell is, sure, Linda is,

and that tiny group of black people are gonna do it. But many of our people, like you said, there's an enthusiasm piece. Hey, I have no problem. So Greg, are you saying that if you stripped the names off of the resumes, policy positions of all the folks there, that if that was the determining factor, what would end up happening is that Warren would get picked over Harris and the others? I'm not saying she would get picked, but I'm saying she'd be competitive. I'm saying she

absolutely would be competitive. And I'm saying and I am saying she would be picked before Susan Rice. Hell yes. No question about it now, because because as far as I'm concerned, none of them have foreign foreign policy portfolio that is so pro-African and African diaspora that would make me leak to them. But again, we're trying to win the election, and we also have to stay focused. Those federal judges, they're going to be in a position to support whatever the judges say that we want are. Absolutely. And he said he's going to put a black one on the Supreme Court. That's fine. So yeah, but no, all I'm saying is that one would be in the mix if race weren't a factor, but race is a factor. So no, I'm not, no, the only but I'm no, all I'm saying is that one would be in the mix if race weren't a factor. But race is a factor. So, no, I'm not. I'm not.

No, the only one I would say I had to hold my nose and vote for is Susan Rice, because, see, I'm old enough to remember what happened in Libya. I'm old enough to remember then all those Africans getting chased out of Libya into the suit, into Chad and all those other places. And all these Africans getting sold into enslavement. And I put that right at the feet of Barack Hussein Obama and Susan Rice. So yeah, other than her, I'm good. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future

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You know, Cicely Tyson in a conversation with Gayle King had talked about black women in our placement in this society and having to look from the fourth rung. It has always stuck with me that we have to look up through the experiences of all other people. But when we are put into positions of power, we lift everyone up because we have that unfortunate view. And I would say that a Black woman being on the ticket is not to placate. It is because Black women are damn well qualified and have actually been doing the work without the position title. So for anyone that would think that this is just some kind of gesture to a goodwill, of good faith, it is really a demand that as women celebrated the 100-year anniversary of the 19th Amendment passing, that Black women were kind of looking with the same face and thinking to say that we were part of that movement, but we were

not recognized. And so, again, the most qualified person to be at that second, be at that seat of vice president is the person that actually ran for president, but was really, really drugged very and judged very harshly than some of her other counterparts. And that would be Senator Kamala Harris, who has just been doing outstanding work for a very long time. So I just wanted to not be known that, you know, black women are not like a trophy or a prize, you know, but we are actually the race. Recy. I absolutely agree.

And speaking of gestures, it's amazing to me how white women like Elizabeth Warren get so much credit for gestures and for rhetoric. When you actually dig beneath the surface, there isn't much substance there. There isn't much receipts in terms of the advocacy that they claim to have suddenly discovered during a presidential campaign. And so that is where we reward white women, we reward white people. And I'm not trying to get on your case, Dr. Carr, but I'm just going to say this. We reward white people for gestures and for rhetoric, even though they haven't backed it up. And yet we look at the black people and we say, why didn't you do more? Even though what they've done is exponentially more impactful and significant and extensive and in depth than what any of the white people have done. So absolutely,

if you look at a resume-based, evidence-based, data-based, results-based, receipts-based decision-making process, then Kamala Harris, number one, stacks up. But I would still put these other black women ahead of Elizabeth Warren any day of the week. And the bottom line was Elizabeth Warren was rejected by her own people because she never won a race in 19 out of 19 states. And she placed third or below in each of these states,

including in her own home state. So she got some things that she got to work out over there on that part. People saying that they don't want a white woman to be VP as much as they want a black woman. So go on ahead and do the right thing for a change. We know it never happens when it comes to black women. Nobody ever does right by the black woman.

But for a change, surprise us and give us what you owe us. That's right. You know, as I said, the political immaturity of the American Negro is something that we'll probably be writing about for the next hundred years if there's still a United States. This isn't, please understand, don't misunderstand what I'm saying.

I think that a Biden-Harris ticket wins. I think a Biden-Rice ticket wins. I think a Biden-Black woman ticket wins. But to say that policy walks are the same as rank-and-file voters, Joe Biden is the nominee of the Democratic Party because black people voted our fears. It's very simple. And we voted our fears after being rallied in South Carolina by Jim Clyburn, who on this show last week, Roland, said he was standing next to John Lewis and said, I hope Black Lives Matter doesn't, I hope they don't take it from us the way that SNCC did. Meaning what? This is the black politician. What you have is movements translating electoral politics to representative race leaders, individuals who we use as a proxy for the interests of our people. That's what, see, Jim Clyburn said that quick. But if you know the

history, you understand what he meant by that is we don't want this thing to get too radical, is what I'm saying. So I'm not critiquing any of those candidates. What I'm saying is, hell, I'd like an opportunity for somebody like Ayanna Pressley. If you're going to put a congresswoman on there, I have nothing against Val Demas. I think Biden Demings wins. But I think, you know, Biden Pressley might win too. In other words, I don't think I think that the black woman

is interchangeable. And I support the, of course I support the black. Are you kidding? No question. Of course. I'd be well. I mean, let's go all the way back to the fight to the 19th. Hell, let's go back to Sojourner Truth in the 1850s. Come on, ain't I a woman? Of course. This is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the electoral politics of the Democratic Party, which has typically shit on black people, women and men, and certainly black women at the bottom of that pyramid,

absolutely, I agree with you 100%, Erica. What I'm saying is that this is a calculus that is being made by a person and a party that is looking at an electoral map and deciding whether or not they're going to risk finally coming into the 21st century, because Joe Biden is just as likely to play for that mythical unicorn white voter he's been chasing forever when, as Cordell and them say, you look at the numbers, you see that, yes, they picked off some suburban whites, particularly women. Yes, they picked off a handful of elders, particularly in places like the background sites like Florida and other places. But they've lost among the Latinos.

They've lost some ground. They've lost a couple of ticks among black voters. And the energy they will get from a black woman makes perfect sense. But that's the calculus. We're not talking about the politics of who is old. This is cold-blooded politics. And I think if they're smart, the cold-blooded politics says pick the black woman. We're not disagreeing.

We're not disagreeing. But we got to be, well, I'll end with that because I don't have any hope that the American Negro is going to be any more mature than we are right now. I think we reached our peak maturity probably in the late 60s. It's been going downhill since then. Anybody want to comment? Okay, my next story.

Senator Patrick Leahy introduced a bill that would completely restore the landmark Voting Rights Act of 1965. The bill is named after late civil rights icon Congressman John Lewis. The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act aims to overturn the Shelby County versus Holder. The bill is cooting Rights Advancement Act aims to overturn the Shelby County v. Holder. The bill is co-sponsored by 47 United States senators. But again,

Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, is sitting on the bill that's already been passed by the House. So we'll see what happens. Also, this just in, the Fairfax County, Virginia school district, they have voted to rename Robert E. Lee High School, John Lewis High School. And so that decision just came down. And so that decision out of Fairfax, Virginia. And so that is a very, very, very good thing. Here's the other piece that we got to talk about here, folks, and that is the details are being released, are being released in the case of. The funeral of Congressman John Lewis, the family will announce it tomorrow. They wanted to wait after the funeral of Reverend C.T. Vivian.

That took place today. This was his body. This was a video here. Excuse me, Reverend Vivian's body being carried into the church. And so it was an amazing funeral. We actually live streamed his funeral on our Roland Martin unfiltered platform. There were a number of video presentations. They held the funeral to really under an hour or so out of, of course, the concern for coronavirus. They practiced safe distancing. And Vice President Joe Biden sent this statement,

this video, that was played at the funeral. I'm so honored to be a part of this celebration of Reverend Vivian's long life of purpose and meaning. To the family, from his children to his great, great, great grandchildren.

Thank you, Cecilia, for allowing me to join you today. I was an admirer. It is not easy to grieve in public and know from experience. It's not easy to lose a loved one who means so much to so many, but who meant the most to all of you. And CT was truly a remarkable man, a man whose physical courage was exceeded only by his moral courage, whose capacity for love overwhelmed incredible hatreds,

and whose faith in the power of nonviolence helped forever change our nation. The number of times he faced down being drowned, being beaten, being reviled, only to stand up straight as a ramrod, bloodied but unbent, and declare the truth that he saw so clearly. Quote, you cannot turn your back on the idea of justice. End of quote. You know, it's hard for most people to wrap their heads around this,

just what a man he was. But in Illinois and in Tennessee and Florida and Mississippi, in the North and in the South, CT was there fighting to turn us back toward justice. A soldier who refused to raise his fist, a preacher's voice helped electrify a movement. A leader who inspired generations to join him in the ceaseless march of progress.

CT didn't waste a single one of the days God granted him. And we all know that CT's spirit is going to continue to inspire us to fulfill his mission. A mission that remains unfinished. Our fight for racial justice is incomplete. And C.T.'s memory now commissions all of us into service to finish the work of perfecting our union. To make sure every person can freely exercise their sacred right to vote, to bring us that much closer to our ideals of equity and justice for all. C.T. has earned his rest, joining in eternity his beloved wife, Octavia, and his eldest son, Cordy.

And for as deep as we are in mourning of his loss, I can't help but think there must be a great celebration in heaven today, a reunion of good and faithful servants entering together into the joy of the Lord. Many of us continue to feel here on earth the hopefulness, the purpose that infused CT throughout his life. May God be with you all during these difficult days.

It was, of course, a very emotional funeral. As we said, it was a lot of safe distancing that was being practiced because of coronavirus. And this is some of the eulogy at today's funeral. He could challenge you, but he only challenged you to make you better in what you were doing. CT went on to train pastors and college deans.

He was a dean down in there. Thank you, Don Rivers, for always being there. It was so easy. Thank you, Don Rivers. You see, you've got a lot of people that will say, but you've been there through thick and thin. You've been there through ups and downs. You've been there when me or even some of his children might not have been there. You've sacrificed your life, and that was a secret to the movement.

How much are you willing to sacrifice and how much are you willing to derail? So we all owe you a tremendous debt of gratitude. CT had a good name. Now he's finished. His good name is eternal. I often wonder, how do we get a good name? We get concerned about this earthly label. C.T. would want each of us to leave today beginning to work on the real name that you have. The name that when others call your label, they'll think about your real name. Some of us who run around jumping pews,

saying, oh, how I love Jesus, mean as snakes, talking about folks, yeah, I've been lying in. We ought to understand what CT stood for. The one thing that stood out and has been said over and over, and I had to strike it off my list three times. C.T. had a good name, but he married a woman with a great name. He married a woman with a great name. And when Octavia walked in the room, he knew. And he said, I didn't know Octavia's name for the first two years. I just called her the wife. He said, Darlie, where's the wife? I said, who's the know Octavia's name for the first two years. I just called her the wife.

He said, Darlie, where's the wife? I said, who's the wife? The wife. Mark said, you got babe, babe, babe. But the wife, he knew what it was like. He was a role model for my wife and I. We're into 52 years of marriage now in a world that's coming apart, but because of a team and all of the women who were the foundation for those who were out there on the front line, the Kings and the Abinethas and the Williams and all of the others, it was the women who were standing there strong, taking care of the children

and talking about what it meant. They had good names because they knew God and they knew that what they were doing was just as important as those out on the front. And sometimes the children had to sacrifice, the wives had to sacrifice, but because they did, they brought us to this point now in America. So we cannot negate that. She had a good name. She was determined and resolute and she supported her, but the real key is not just in Proverbs 21 1, he will give you riches, honor, and a long life. We've come today to celebrate a man who's rich. Oh, George, his bank account might not be written that he's got so much in his bank account in his name,

but his name is written on the Lamb's Book of Life with all the funds that he ever needs. All he's got to do is call on God, and when he called on God, the riches began to flow. He's been honored by kings and ambassadors all over the world, honored, but now today, only a few days from his 96th birthday, God has given him a long life. He is rich. He has been honored. And now he's received a life. And I say today on behalf of C.T. Vivian, if you want to honor that long life, do what C.T. did when he stood there on the courts there in Dallas. Long life. Do what CT did when he stood there on the courts there in Dallas.

We have a moral and an ethical obligation today all over this land. If this body has gone to where it's going, then we can keep it alive. We can keep the good name alive by going out and voting. That's what CT would want. He would want us to get up and get out and register and vote and change the nation. Don't shy from that. CT was one that said, my good name is that I said, I want you to vote. I want you to love your neighbors. Folks, if you want to see the funeral of Reverend C.T. Vivian, simply go to our YouTube channel where we have already archived it.

Folks, 10 of Atlanta's black radio stations will come together to educate their listeners on voting and encourage them to register. In between songs, DJs will interview different speakers about the importance of voting. Atlanta is the nation's eighth largest radio market. Last month, more than 3.7 million people listened to the participating radio stations. In addition to voter education, organizers will also include information about the 2020 census to encourage listeners to complete it. That is the kind of stuff I'm talking about, Erica, that's going to be vital when it comes to this election. And these black targeted radio stations, that's what they should be doing because that's that's what black newspapers did historically. That's what WVON, the Voice of the Negro, did as well.

And I think, frankly, far too many of these radio stations have lost their direction, only focusing on music and the trivial stuff. And that's important. This is vital and needed this year. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

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Yes, Roland, absolutely. And you've been leading by example. And I think now in this time where people are really seeing that this person that is occupying the White House really is willing to risk any and everything in order to retain power, that the party that he's associated with has essentially become a death cult, that we are actually seeing the impact that it has had and is having on the Black community to include COVID-19. And so when we think about what Black radio is, again, in the Black community, where it was more, when I was growing up, edutainment, right? So you did get some entertainment, but you also had education. So there was a really good syncing and pairing of both, not one more heavy than the other. And so I applaud this effort and actually hope that they

will actually extend it to platforms like yours so that people are understanding that it's not just at certain times that this is content that they can actually be made aware to and listen to seven days a week and at their own replay pleasure. this virus, we are going to have to have black targeted, black owned media outlets step up and frankly do what they used to do as opposed to get playing games and focus on laughing and giggling and all that not as silly stuff. Yeah. I mean, we have to make voting cool again. Right. I mean, unfortunately, it's it's kind, it's almost becoming a little bit more cool to be contrarian and to have the super woke attitude that it doesn't matter, both parties are the same. And so the onus really is on the candidates, the Democratic Party, and where we can be helpful on our own selves, in particular Black radio, Black media, and getting the message out about what's really at stake here. But we have to give people something to support and something to root

for. But even if you are supportive already, even if you are enthusiastic, the bottom line is that voting is a process that we need to be educated on. And you have to go to where people are. A lot of people take for granted things like deadlines. A lot of people take for granted things like how to fill out a ballot. And I would also like to see some awareness about the fact that our election boards, the board of commissioners in most cities are the ones who are actually executing these elections. And a lot of people don't understand that. And so they don't have the awareness about the fact that these people are holding meetings and they're making decisions about the number of polling places and things like that. And so we have to be engaged now because before we know it, the election is going to be here and it's going to be too late at that point to do the kind of outreach that we need to do. This isn't like a polls to the polls Sunday election.

This is a multi-month, very extensive campaign that we need to have to get people prepared. Greg, Dr. King wrote in Chaos of Community, where do we go from here? There are four institutions that are prime position to advance the interests of black people, the black church, the black press, Negro fraternities and sororities,

and professional organizations. He specifically called on the Negro press, those words he used, the Negro press, Negro fraternities and sororities, and professional organizations. He specifically called on the Negro press, those words he used, the Negro press, to maintain its militancy and not fall into this conservative mindset. That is what these stations should be doing, using the power of the airwaves to educate people about voting about the issues. Absolutely, Roland. And I'm glad to see the Atlanta radio stations coming together because not only is it the right thing to do, as Reese just said, it's going to be more than souls to the polls. Eric said we've got to get our people out. We've got to get this ingrained in our consciousness. But not only must we do that, it is their birthright.

I mean, you know, WERD, I'm so glad you mentioned those call letters, Roland, WVON, the voice of the Negro in Chicago. I mean, at the center, Lou Palmer and Conrad Ruel, and of course, you know, all those years that Cliff Kelly, the governor, was on there, I mean, in Chicago. Well, Atlanta led out in that.

In 1949, Jesse Blayton, who was a professor at Atlanta University, paid, I think, $50,000 to get the radio station, WERD. And in those few blocks, right there, near Martin Luther King's birth home, where Martin and Coretta King are buried right now, where they drove C.T. Vivian past, in fact, when they paid tribute yesterday, where Octavia, his wife, Octavia Vivian, an intellectual, helped Ms. King put together the King Center. And, of course, Lillian Miles, who was a librarian at Atlanta University campus, Lillian Miles Lewis, John Lewis's wife, she was a librarian at Atlanta University Center. All that work was going on in

that area. But what anchored that community was WERD, which was actually in a building that at one time had housed one of Madam C.J. Walker's salons. And it was on that radio station, WERD, that Martin Luther King's sermons were broadcast, that Martin Luther King would go and say, hey, I got a message. We got a rally. We got to get out here and get these people in the streets. He would talk from there. And it was in that building right there next to it where the SNCC headquarters were, Ruby Smith Doris Robinson, whose niece is now the mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Lance Bottoms. So these black radio stations in Atlanta are not only doing the right thing in this moment, they are returning to a legacy that Atlanta, in fact, gave birth to in this country.

So this is an encouraging moment. This is an encouraging moment for us. Well, absolutely. And so we are following that. Folks, earlier this week, Congressman Ted Yoho of Florida verbally assaulted Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez outside of the Capitol, calling her out of her name. He attempted to apologize, but this crap really was an apology. I want you to watch this. Thank you, Chairman Conway. Mr. Speaker, I stand before you this morning to address the strife I injected into the already contentious Congress. I have worked with many members in this chamber over the past four terms,

members on both sides of the aisle, and each of you know that I'm a man of my word. So let me take a moment to address this body. I rise to apologize for the abrupt manner of the conversation I had with my colleague from New York. It is true that we disagree on policies and visions for America, but that does not mean we should be disrespectful. Having been married for 45 years with two daughters, I am very cognizant of my language. The offensive name-calling words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues and if they were construed that way, I apologize for their misunderstanding.

As my colleagues know, I am passionate about those affected by poverty. My wife Carolyn and I started out together at the age of 19 with nothing. We did odd jobs and we were on food stamps. I know the face of poverty and for a time it was mine. That is why I know people in this country can still, with all its faults, rise up and succeed and not be encouraged to break the law. I will commit to each of you that I will conduct myself from a place of passion and understanding that policy and political disagreement be vigorously debated with the knowledge that we approach the problems facing our nation with the betterment of the country in mind and the people we serve

I cannot apologize for my passion or for loving my God my family and my country I yield back so you attack her you call her a bitch, and that's because you're focused on poverty? And you love your God? Really? Today, AOC responded. About two days ago, I was walking up the steps of the Capitol when Representative Yoho suddenly turned a corner, and he was accompanied by Representative Roger Williams, and accosted me on the steps right here in front of our nation's capital. I was minding my own business, walking up the steps, and Representative Yoho put his

finger in my face. He called me disgusting. He called me crazy. He called me out of my mind. And he called me dangerous. And then he took a few more steps and after I had recognized his comments as rude, he walked away and said, I'm rude. You're calling me rude. and cast my vote, because my constituents send me here each and every day to fight for them and to make sure that they are able to keep a roof over their head, that they're able to feed their families, and that they're able to carry their lives with dignity. I walked back out,

and there were reporters in the front of the Capitol Capitol and in front of reporters, Representative Yoho called me, and I quote, a fucking bitch. These are the words that Representative Yoho levied against a congresswoman, the congresswoman that not only represents New York's 14th congressional district, but every congresswoman and every woman in this country, because all of us have had to deal with this in some form, some way, some shape at some point in our lives. And I want to be clear that Representative Yoho's comments were not deeply hurtful or piercing to me because I have worked a working class job. I have waited tables in restaurants. I have ridden the subway.

I have walked the streets in New York City. And this kind of language is not new. I have encountered words uttered by Mr. Yoho and men uttering the same words as Mr. Yoho while I was being harassed in restaurants. I have tossed men out of bars that have used language like Mr. Yoho's. And I have encountered this type of harassment riding the subway in New York City. This is not new. And that is the problem.

Mr. Yoho was not alone. He was walking shoulder to shoulder with Representative Roger Williams. And that's when we start to see that this issue is not about one incident. It is cultural. It is a culture of lack of impunity, of accepting of violence and violent language against women, and an entire structure of power that supports that. Because not only have I been spoken to disrespectfully, particularly by members of the Republican Party and elected officials in the Republican Party, not just here, but by members of the Republican Party and elected officials in the Republican

Party, not just here. But the president of the United States last year told me to go home to another country with the implication that I don't even belong in America. The governor of Florida, Governor DeSantis, before I even was sworn in, called me a whatever that is. Dehumanizing language is not new. And what we are seeing is that incidents like these are happening in a pattern. This is a pattern of an attitude towards women and dehumanization of others. So while I was not deeply hurt or offended by little comments that are made,

when I was reflecting on this, I honestly thought that I was just going to pack it up and go home. It's just another day, right? But then yesterday, Representative Yoho decided to come to the floor of the House of Representatives and make excuses for his behavior. And that I could not let go. I could not allow my nieces, I could not allow the little girls that I go home to, I could not allow victims of verbal abuse and worse to see that, to see that excuse, and to see our Congress accept it as legitimate and accept it as an apology and to accept silence as a form of acceptance, I could not allow that to stand,

which is why I am rising today to raise this point of personal privilege. And I do not need Representative Yoho to apologize to me. Clearly he does not want to. Clearly when given the opportunity he will not. And I will not stay up late at night waiting for an apology from a man who has no remorse over calling women and using abusive language towards women. But what I do have issue with is using women, our wives, and daughters as shields and excuses for poor behavior. Mr. Yoho mentioned that he has a wife and two daughters. I am two years younger than Mr. Yoho's youngest daughter.

I am someone's daughter, too. My father, thankfully, is not alive to see how Mr. Yoho treated his daughter. My mother got to see Mr. Yoho's disrespect on the floor of this house towards me on television. And I am here because I have to show my parents that I am their daughter and that they did not raise me to accept abuse from men. Now, what I am here to say is that this harm that Mr. Yoho levied, it tried to levy against me, was not just an incident directed at me. But when you do that to any woman, what Mr. Yoho did was give permission to other men to do that to his daughters. In using that language in front of the press, he gave permission to use that language against his wife, his daughters, women in his community.

And I am here to stand up to say that is not acceptable. I do not care what your views are. It does not matter how much I disagree or how much it incenses me or how much I feel that people are dehumanizing others. I will not do that myself. I will not allow people to change and create hatred in our hearts. And so what I believe is that having a daughter does not make a man decent. Having a wife does not make a decent man. Treating people with dignity and respect makes a decent man. And when a decent man messes up, as we all are bound to do, he tries He tries his best and does apologize. Not to save face, not to win a vote. He apologizes genuinely to repair and acknowledge the harm done so that we can all move on. Lastly, what I want to express to Mr. Yoho is gratitude.

I want to thank him for showing the world that you can be a powerful man and accost women. You can have daughters and accost women without remorse. You can be married and accost women. You can take photos and project an image to the world of being a family man and accost women without remorse and with a sense of impunity. It happens every day in this country. It happened here on the steps of our nation's capital. It happens when individuals who hold the highest office in this land admit, admit to hurting women

and using this language against all of us. But once again, I thank my colleagues for joining us today. I will reserve the hour of my time and I will yield to my colleague, Representative Jayapal of Washington. Thank you. Rishi, that's called an effective way of tearing somebody limb to limb. She completely and righteously eviscerated him. I mean, if you had a picture of him, his guts were probably all over the House floor.

I applaud what Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did there because so many times we see where the person who is on the receiving end of the abuse is expected to accept a half-assed apology or an apology at all. And I applaud her for saying, take your apology and shove it up your ass because I'm not falling for it. I'm not going to redeem you by accepting your apology and being gracious towards you when you were so vile and nasty towards me. And then you have the nerve to invoke God and poverty and food stamps as if that is any kind of justification for verbally assaulting a sitting congresswoman as much as these Republicans care about civility, supposedly. He's totally full of it.

And I applaud her for completely eviscerating him. And I also want to shout out the other people who stood in solidarity with her. It's actually very heartening today to see the number of women in Congress. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley really gave a really amazing speech as well on this topic, encouraging her daughter Cora and women out there to say that you belong. And, you know, it's just a very uplifting thing. And so I think that I really applaud the way that AOC and Presley and Eliana Omar and others have really taken this opportunity to shed light on appalling behavior, but also be encouraging and let women know that this is unacceptable and you don't have to take it.

Erica. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.

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And this is season two of the war on drugs. But sir, we are back in a big way, in a very big way, real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star studded a little bit, man.

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You know, for Republicans who used to be or who said that they were the party of God and family, and we've completely seen that mask be shed away in the last few years, for those that have just kind of been in the political space the last few years, you know, this is kind of like par for the course. And to call him out, to use her nine minutes and to effectively walk through what he issued as an apology wrapped up in food stamps and poverty and his marriage and his daughter and just say, no, no. As Recy said, you can take your apology and shove it. And to me, this is kind of more of the force that Democrats need to use as we continue to go to November 3rd, less than 100 days, to really just stand and call a thing a thing and then advance whatever your platform is, which is the abuse of women largely, which has been demonstrated from their commander

in chief, the White House occupant. Greg, to hear her say that she is two years younger than Yoho's youngest daughter puts it in perspective. And it's like, how would you feel if somebody called your daughter that? Brother. Thoroughly embarrassed him. I can't do anything but echo what our sisters have said. It was such a beautiful thing.

I was actually listening to it on C-SPAN radio, and I had to pause, man. What Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did today has a lot of layers to it. And by the way, I thought that was Emanuel Cleaver sitting over there. I thought it was Reverend Cleaver sitting over there to the left with that full mask on. He ain't trying

to catch nothing. He wears them Barbara Lee with them wipes in there. But the thing that blew my mind, see, this is Roland Martin unfiltered, right? So this is what you ain't going to get on MSNBC. I don't care who the host is or isn't. We could talk black here. You know what a black person who speaks Spanish is? A black person. You saw Boricua today. That's Puerto Rico. That's the Bronx right there. And over her shoulder, sitting there with that purple mask on, that abuela was sitting there. Understand purple is the color of Oba. She is the daughter of Yemiyah, the wife of Shango. They came in there and put some on them white boys today. Don't miss what was going on with them Boricua sisters

right there. The young girl said, I am someone's daughter. And then she evoked her father. Now her father, Sergio, is an ancestor. But she said, my mother had to hear that. Blanca Ocasio-Cortez, her mother still walks the earth. Understand the demographics. I know some white folks that kind of hate watch this show.

Let me tell you something, white nationalists. But there are some white folks who love the show. For those of you who love it. They've sent money and they've sent me emails. Go ahead. Y'all keep putting money on it because the country you live in is about to look more like those sisters you saw there today. Those are black women. They happened to be dropped off on the island of Puerto Rico

and then they migrated to New York, they in the Bronx, but those are black women who speak Spanish. So please understand something. And they're growing in numbers. In a minute, white people will be part of the plurality. You probably wanna turn off all them other old cable shows and come on over here and watch this because this is the future.

What you saw today was in addition to getting that man up off her and his little friends like Tom Cotton, the chinless chump who passed trying to introduce some legislature to dictate what's taught in the schools today. I understand, Tom. You got to do that, bro. Because as Black Thought said, first thing to fall is cats with no chin. But at any rate, what you saw today was not just her body in them, or as you said, Erica, ethering him. What you saw was she's putting a marker down for the America of the future because it ain't never coming back to them days. That was a beautiful thing to do. I mean, look, I just love sitting in there. I'm probably going to watch that again tonight.

That's why, you know, the other shows shows, they probably only going to play about 30 or 45 seconds of that. Well, as I always say, when you own your shit, you get to decide what you want to do. I wanted y'all to hear the entire 10 minutes because it was important to hear

that sister sit there and lay it out methodically and put him in check. All right. Y'all know what time it is. Come on, y'all. I'm white. I got you.

Please. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa. Hey. You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable. Show on the slate.

All right, y'all, another one of these Karens. Check out this white woman here. Brother man is just trying to do his job, y'all. I think this is in Miami, I think. He's just trying to deliver some food to a customer who called the order in. Look at this fool. You know your man.

Okay, so you're not going to let me in to deliver this food. I have the number. Yeah, we don't like pictures. I mean, I'm just... Don't point that shit at me. I'm trying to... Don't point that fucking thing. I have food I have to deliver to somebody, man.

Don't deliver anything here. We don't want your delivery. You're not... You Don't deliver anything here. We don't want your delivery. You're not, you didn't get the food. I don't want you. I don't want you here. I don't want you here at all. Hello? Excuse me, Paul.

There's a woman, like, at the door. My name is Jordan. I'm working in a place. Who is this? Who is this? Excuse me. Can you back away from me now? No, this is my bill.

I'm not going to back away from you. I'm just trying to. Who is this? Who's on the speaker? Hello? Yeah, who's on the speaker? Hello? Yeah, who's on the speaker? Ma'am, can you back? Who's speaking?

I live here in this building. Who is this? Your phone is... Who is this? This is Paul Morfitt. I'm in 212. I'm getting a Postmates delivery. A Postmates delivery in 212?

212 where? I'm sorry? Yeah, where do you live, sir? I live in 1595 Kelton Avenue. Can I do my job, please? No. You're not going to let me do my job. I'm not letting this man in. Can I bring your food to you?

I'm at the entrance of the building. Oh, so you want to bring the... I'm at the entrance to your building. Who are you? Who is this? I live here, asshole, And I pay rent here. So I do too. So what are you asking? I'm asking you to get out of my building because you don't live here.

I'm a black man. I'm trying to deliver. I don't care if he's a purple man. I'm working for my mom. Her name is Anna. Yeah, I don't care what you're looking for. I'm trying to deliver your food. I don't care what your name is, sir.

I want you out of the building. I just want to deliver your food. I don't want him near here because I don't know him and I don't want people buzzing him into my building. I don't know how to do this for you, but she's like buzzing him into a security building. I don't know him. I know everybody in this building. He doesn't live here and he's not a delivery boy. He had no car, no bike, nothing a car he is not pulled up in that way that's my wife that's my white car he's not a delivery he is not a delivery service yeah okay he didn't get out of a lift he didn't get out of an Uber he didn't get out of a car Mercedes a Honda

anything hello black guy walking around who has a clicker to get into any building he wants to. Yeah, dude, you've got codes, dude. I've got codes. You don't got a brain. I don't got a brain. And Generation Z or X, whatever you are, people are still those. You're not getting in. I'm not getting in. You don't have a key, dude.

You're not going to get... I have a key. That's cool. Can you not touch me? No, can you not film me? Okay, thank you. I'll be behind you. I don't want you filming me. What? Can can you not touch me no can you not tell me okay thank you so i can i'll be i'll be behind you so i don't want you filming me what can you get away from me no that phone no i don't can be lady can you because you're you're getting yeah you're getting close to me i mean i guess this is really terrible this is horrible horrible. Hi, Paul. Did you want me to... Excuse me.

Excuse me. Do you want me to leave it down here for you? Please, please. Yeah, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you. No. I don't know you. By the way, I have this on just so that if you do something to me, I just want it to be here.

Here's 110. Pound. I just want to document this. One, zero. Just doing my job. Let's see if it works. They took my name off. Did you know that? They took my name off the directory.

They used to have the address. So you don't even live here. I live here, asshole. I've lived here for seven years. But they took your name off? Fucking pig fuck phone either. Okay, how do I do this? Let's see. I live here asshole. I've lived here for seven years and I don't like your fucking pig fuck phone either. Okay. How do I do this? Let's see. Uh, press pound one, one, zero and see if it buzzes. This is crazy. Yeah. What's up with you guys? How old are you?

27? You're my son. I'm not talking to you anymore. I'm not going to talk to you. That's cool. Cool. That's great. Because I don't live here. I can see you. I'm not even talking to you. As well. Just in case you try to call the cops or something and tell them one thing.

And it's not that. How would you like me to go? You're like this. You can't do anything without him. You carry a little phone around. You can't do anything. What are you doing? Like we are you step? I just don't understand like you're crazy. Okay? No, it's not going to be buzzed in. No, I just want to get my food. I just want to get my food.

Thank you, Paul. I'm sorry about that. Now, why haven't I met you? Jeez, it's crazy. Apparently, that's at the Westwood Kelton Towers in Los Angeles, California, Reesey. You know what? Paul's punk ass food went right in the trash. Once he brought his monkey mother, you know what I mean?

Let me let me simmer down a bit. Once he brought his punk ass downstairs and the black man apologized to him after the black man sat up there and took all that abuse and he just took, oh, I just want my food. Paul, you ain't shit along with that racist white lady. And I'm telling y'all, I don't know how these black people do it. God bless them. Because I've never had that extended of a conversation

with anybody being disrespectful towards me. I understand that you gotta get your commission or whatever, but she needed some hands laid on her. And I applaud them, but I would really much rather videos

of Karens like her getting stomped out and slapped across her face and cussed out go viral than videos of these Johnstown Negroes who get told off and get harassed and get abused, and they take it and, like I said, God bless them, but it's sending the wrong message. It gets my blood pressure up because I would have just slapped her on sight and then dropped the food off, and Paul, punk-ass Paul, could have got his own food.

Erica, if that's me, hashtag team whip that ass, we'll be showing up. Exactly. Yeah, I was clenching my teeth because I'm listening to that child's voice and it sounds very much so like my 20-something-year-old son. And just thinking about the level of aggression that black people have to really navigate through every day for this young man just to be trying to go about his business. He is covering his nose and his mouth because COVID has a disproportionate impact on him, just like it does his black and brown community as well. And so to have this Karen, who this is really what a Karen is, they demand to know what the hell you're doing. Explain yourself. I will weave in and out of the conversation as I please. But you are to

follow my order. She also called him a delivery boy. This is that Karen type that has, you know, supposed to be a slur of sorts, but it's not. It's a behavior. It is a mindset. And many of the same folks that led us to this disastrous presidency still very much so hold this posture. I think that I'm glad that he actually filmed it and bless him for holding his composure because as a young black man striking a white woman, we've seen historical outcomes of that. But as a mother, as a black ass mama, I cannot even imagine because I can tell you the time that my son from the time that he was in pre-K to kindergarten, mama has shown up heels in her hand, hoop earrings in her purse, Vaseline ready to go. So that's really, I think, more of the concerning part of me is that this is something that these are different wars that our children, all of us, are having to wage with these white women.

I'll say this here, Greg. If you deliver, you don't owe that white woman no conversation. That's when you say, heifer, I ain't talking to you. That's when you say, if I ain't talking to you, that's when you just like, move, move. Like, you mean nothing to me. So she know everybody in the building, yet when they call a number, she didn't know who that person was.

I mean, these white folks literally are operating like we are in slavery days where there's a fugitive slave act where I can check your papers. Yeah. Well, they're pat-a-rollers. They've always been pat-a-rollers. Deputies. They're deputy police. All of them. But you know,

and I, Racy, I share that, yeah, they need a ass-whooping. And Erica, I know, look, we know how you roll, and I see my brother akinyeli umoja's book back there over your shoulder we will shoot back so i know we know how you roll so but at the same time though i couldn't help but think and when you voiced that since it really really resonated when you said he sounded like your son because we know those kind of cats like that

easy going kind of you, they're not weak. Don't mistake that for weakness. It's just their temperament. And so, you know, it's interesting. We have this Howard Initiative on Public Policy. We did a webinar a day or second round. We're doing some surveys of black and Afro-Latin and Latinx communities on how we're coping with this racial pandemic and the biological pandemic. And we asked folks, how are they coping, black folk? Are you using distractions? Are you using substances?

Are you reframing? What's your most support? Humor, acceptance, religion. One of the lowest percentages that people, black people are moving to is venting and Jules Harrell and Ron Hopson who are two psychologists at Howard brilliant brothers we're talking on the webinar today they said why is that number so low and they kind of reached a general idea that we don't have the luxury to vent and so so so

Erica when you're talking about what you had to intervene for your son, you know, that could have gone left, because I think that woman was a little touched, because you heard her going a little loopy, and then she said, did you play ball? I mean, oh, are you 27? In other words, you got a little trump in you. Maybe your brain, a worm

is eating your brain, too. But he, fortunately, his temperament was such that it was his nature not to just make that move. Because that could have ended with sirens and him dead right there in front of that complex. And that's what, I mean, that's a hell of a thing to be black in America. I agree with

James Baldwin, man. Because one of these days what it what it what it likes to use that little poem he wrote look at the negro meek and kind. Beware the Negro meek and kind. Beware the day we change our mind. So, I mean, you know, but thank God that young man is going home to his family.

Because that could have went another way if his temperament had been different. And can I just say, though, like, to be clear, I'm not saying men should go out there and hit women. I'm saying I would personally slap the hell out of her. But I think that black people should carry mace. I don't think that there's a gender barrier between mace and somebody who's in your space. Go ahead and spray them. That's not assault. If somebody's in your space, whether it's a man or a woman, you have that right, in my opinion, to

go ahead and get rid of them. No conversation. Just shh. That's it. No conversation. Shh. Scram like Ray. No conversation. Hey, all of y'all,

I'm telling you, I hope they kick up behind out the building. That's what I hope. All right, y'all, let's go to our final story. A group of former contestants of the television show Survivor on CBS are petitioning for the show to be more diverse and inclusive. The petition sent to ViacomCBS outlines 10 actions for show producers to take, including asking that future cast be made up of at least 30% people of color and that bears a zero-tolerance policy towards racism during filming.

Joining me now to talk about that is Wendell Holland, the 2018 Survivor winner, and Jatia Hart, a Survivor contestant. How y'all doing? Hello. Hey, how's it going? All right, so you're talking about the folks on the cast, but what did the crew look like? Because part of the issue you also have here is you've got white showrunners, you've got white directors, you've got white camera people, you've got white audio people, you've got white...

I mean, I just saw a deal where this movie that Nia Long was in with Omar Epps on Netflix, that targeting black folks on Netflix near said there were three black people on a whole damn crew. Yeah, that's an issue. I mean, how comfortable would we feel on a desert island and literally looking at the crew

and the producers and all of those people and there aren't many brothers and sisters on the crew. So like you're in an intimate confessional where you're trying to speak about what's going on. And sometimes it's hard to communicate that to them or to even feel that they're going to properly tell your story. So our petition, we actually are talking about that, too. We're talking about changing things not only in front of the camera, but behind the camera.

And also we want to hold them accountable. So they actually do an okay job of casting African-Americans and other people of color. However, they do not do a great job of telling their story. Our stories on survivor African-Americans are disproportionately negative. And so we just want to be equally as negative and positive as everybody else. Well, but then what this is, what you're dealing with here is also, of course, you know, The Bachelor all of a sudden decided to find a black guy for the first time ever. And that was only because of what's been happening lately in this country, because they've been they decided for a long time white is right.

Yes. So The Bachelor, The Bachelor decided to seize the moment, I guess. And it's like, OK, finally. Finally, you guys did something. And what we're saying is, hey, CBS, hey, Survivor, this is an opportunity. You guys can change the narrative. I know you guys speak to a lot of middle America. That's who watches your show. Why don't you guys? Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.

See, hold on, hold on. Do me one favor. Do me one favor. Do me one favor, please, Wendell. Yes, sir. We don't use that phrase on here. We say exactly what it is. When white folks say middle America, they really mean white people.

Because here's the deal. They are black. Chicago is middle America. St. Louis is middle America. That's literally in the middle of America. But they ain't talking about black people. They talking about white people. Thank you for correcting me.

Good, sir. Absolutely. So that's, you know, we, we, we don't use the mainstream media white terms on this show. We just say what it is. They peel into white people in the heartland, in those red States, and they don't give a damn what we think. Even though black people, Jatia,

watch TV at a higher, a far higher number than anybody else out there. So they're like, yeah, y'all can watch anyway. We're just going to keep feeding y'all white characters. Absolutely. I mean, they do not take care with our stories. And now society is calling for them to take care. They want to see different stories. They want to see our stories carried, you know, across. And our stories do carry. So the one example I always use is Beyonce at Coachella, Baychella, which was there. But, I mean, she took basically what is essentially

what black people have been watching at halftime shows, since I can remember going to a HBCU and seeing a halftime show. And she brought it to the masses, and they ate it up. And so you just have to have the narrative and the creativity to bring your story to the market. And they don't, and they don't care. Well, go ahead. Go ahead, Wendell. I was just going to say, and that's why we're asking for, like, black producers, black people behind the cameras.

Yeah, because also these are jobs. I mean, these are jobs. These are opportunities. But see, I'm going to use another Beyonce example. When she met with Reebok, she walked in, they had no black people on the other side of the table. She was like, we out. Straight up.

That's when you got some black people, because if you want to work with me, I'm African American, and you need to respect that. Yeah, and that's it. Greg Carr, I want to pull you in on this conversation here. I mean, what we are seeing, I keep saying this is the reckoning. This is the third reconstruction. What you have here is, I just saw the story the other day at Hearst Magazine, they're calling out the CEO there for sexist language and also for issues of race within their magazines. We're seeing the same thing at Condé Nast. We've seen Barbara Fedida,

who was the second highest rankedranked person at ABC News, fire up the other day where they validated racist comments that she actually made and behavior as well. We're seeing examinations within all of these media companies. Greg, I've been saying as the

vice president for digital for NABJ that we need to see black folks in all these companies speak up because this is the moment to challenge whiteness in all levels of this country because we have been marginalized and ignored for far too long and left out of the economic piece what they're talking about not only are the people who are on the screen but behind the screens we're talking about jobs we're talking about economic opportunities, well-paid jobs. Absolutely. So we're talking about one second. Greg, Greg, go ahead.

Go ahead. No, I'm still saying very quick. And we're talking about synergies. It's not either or independent platforms like yours, which harken back to the days when we had independent black media, black press and black people in these white spaces to bust the door down, because if they want to make money, they're going to have to change demographic. Parenthetically, I saw Beyonce drop that Black King trailer, and I saw it with Robert Ferris Thompson's book, Black Gods and Kings, in her hand. They on some old other ish over there in Bay Nation, and I'm here for it. And I'm saying all of it works together. So as you all are pushing Viacom, you know, they let my man Nick Cannon go, but that ain't even hardly over. Because what I suspect is going to happen is they're going to

have to come back around to the table because they are going to look up and realize, look, if you don't respect black people, you about to lose your money because black people are what your marketing to the world and the demographic in this country is increasingly nonwhite and the young white people are watching y'all. So y'all better get y'all's mind right. So more power to y'all. Y'all at Viacom, so we know what kind of fight y'all gotta fight. But you got some allies I think that will probably allow you to

make some progress in very short form. And that includes all of us. But Jatia, the issue here is not just with ViacomCBS. Mark Burnett produces this show. Has Mark Burnett's company responded to what y'all are putting out? So our efforts are moving forward. We do have a meeting set up to speak to not only CBS, but people from the production company and Survivor. And so we hope to have outcomes and actual concrete actions.

But I think what Greg was saying was summed up best by the meme that's going around. It's a woman who's gotten arrested and she is thinking you about to lose your job. So, I mean, I kind of feel like, yeah, that's the feeling in the street. I mean, we have this systemic racism and it's housing, it's education, it is everything from school to prison pipeline, it's everything. And one of those facets is media and its representation. It's these people who maybe the only black people they know is what they see on TV. And then that's the police officers of tomorrow.

So if they see a character on Survivor who, you know, seems crazy, an African-American, they always seem crazy. Then when he goes out there in the streets and he encounters an African-American, unconscious bias is real. That's what's going to kick in. That's going to be what's going to be split second. And it's really the matter of life or death, media and representation. So, yes, it's bigger than Survivor. That's where we'd like to start. But we'd like to see it go from Survivor to CBS to all of media. Wendell, final comment. And we're asking for them to, you know, we might have multiple sides to us. We're asking for them to show those multiple sides. Like, instead of focusing on someone being an angry black man or aggressive or what have you, tell a full story. Show, yes, I can be angry at some some moments but also show that i'm intelligent also

show that i'm motivating my tribe and other things like that so they can see a whole picture like they show whole pictures of other castaways i'm just gonna get i'm just gonna get one uh just just get one one piece of advice from my perspective um you're not asking you're demanding april 3rd 1968 if you actually go back and look at that 43-minute and 16-second speech Dr. King gave at Mason Temple, he referenced Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. where he said, we're going to redistribute the pain.

He laid out a plan there where he says that if you are not simply doing business with black people, if you're not hiring black people, black people are not going to do business with you. This is not the moment where we have to sit here and be concerned about folks' feelings. This is where we need to be hardcore and say, no, these are our demands. Otherwise we're going to ratchet this thing up. And so that's what, that's what, that's what I would lay out. That's the posture I've always taken with a lot of, with a lot of these companies, but this is the moment, the reckoning that we're in,

that they need to understand that we ain't playing. We're not playing. We ain't playing. And they better get the message real soon. So certainly keep us abreast of how this goes, okay? We hope to give you good news. All right. Wendell Jatia, thank you so very much.

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