#RolandMartinUnfiltered - TX Dems Back for Maps Fight; D.C. Agent Surge; Spike Lee Exclusive & Black Breast Cancer

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Texas House Democrats return after a two-week walkout. What do you think happened? Easy. Republicans passed a new map that decimates black political power in Texas. We'll talk to two Texas state reps African Americans who were not there, thank goodness. Donald Trump wants to keep rigging elections. Now he says he wants to get rid of voting machines

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We'll show you what Spike had to say about that. It's time to bring the fog on Rolla mark unfilcher. On the Black Side Network, let's go. He's got... Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got. He's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time.

And it's rolling, best believe he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics. With entertainment just for gigs, he's rolling. Yeah, yeah. It's Uncle Ro Roel. Yeah, yeah. It's rolling Martin, yeah. Rolling with rolling now.

He's funky, fresh, he's real the best, you know, he's rolling Martin. Now, well, folks, I told y'all last week that in Texas came back to allow Republicans came back to allow Republicans that McCorm, they will quickly pass new maps that decimates Democrats in the state. In addition, they'll also be decimating black power. Well, what happened? Well, House Democrats came back, and the Republicans passed the map. Okay, so what actually got accomplished? Now, we know California is moving ahead to do what they are going to be doing,

but I made perfectly clear that if you represent Texas, you should be fighting on behalf of Texas residents. That's what you are elected to do. Now, a number of black lawmakers, not all, not all. And trust me, I'm going to show the faces of those who did show up today for the quorum. A number of black lawmakers were not there. They made perfectly clear that they could not in good conscience do that. You also had some others as well, Trey Martinez-Fisher out of San Antonio,

Senator Stickman from Illinois, saying that he could not in good conscience do that. the exact same thing. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, if you return, you know what was going to happen. And the issue that I had is Democrats, of course, were selling wolf tickets. They basically were telling people, oh, we were in it for the long haul, when the long haul only lasted two weeks. During us right now, state reps, Isha Davis, as well as Jelonda Jones. Glad to have both of y'all here on the show. Thank you so very much. I just, you know, again, The theme that jumps out at me, when I listen, Jolando, when I listen to Texas House Democrats say,

we're going back to fight. I'm going, what the hell are you fighting when they got the votes? You're not fighting anything. You're fighting if you didn't give them a quorum because they have complete control of the House, complete control of the Senate. It's just like the Senate. nine Democrats walked out

two stayed and they said we're staying to fight but if all 11 had walked out they couldn't have passed to make me a little late if all 11 walked out they could not have passed the maps it makes no sense to me

go right ahead so no I didn't show up and I'm not going to show up there is a redistricting committee formal meeting at 5 o'clock today 5 o'clock central time which normally formal meetings

are rubber stamp meetings where you know how you're going to vote they literally have you all stand around something and they call your name such and such how you vote on this yes or no and it's quick I mean it's easy so I suspect it's going to be like that

but the thing that's funny to me Roland is exactly like you said there is no fight there are 88 of them and 62 of us and the only time we were winning the fight was when we corn broke. So I can't.

And I'm so discombobulated right now because I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe. Let me be clear, the people that came back, those of us that came back, who I guess maybe thought that they were going to get some brownie points for coming back, they locked them on the house floor. You hear me, locked the doors.

And you couldn't leave until you signed a permission slip. What a nice word. that said that they could surveil you 24-7 to compel your attendance the next time they had a meeting. So my colleagues who came back, they're calling it a security detail. No, it's an unlawful detention. Right.

It's unconstitutional. And last, I heard, I was born in America, not on a plantation. And these are modern-day slave patrols. Yeah. In fact, one person said, one of the law enforcement people said, He was working on narcotics this morning. They called them in, you know, so they're pulling people off the streets. They pulling off police office from doing, like, real police stuff to watch us, to surveil us.

And so I'm not coming back to Texas till a po-po gone, because we know that the history of white control of black people is to sick the police on us. So if you think, go ahead. So one of the black lawmakers who went back, Representative Christian Manuel, We're going to go live. You mentioned that hearing. Well, that hearing is taking place right now. And there's some questioning going on. Y'all, go ahead and play it.

Again, that's the underlying bill. You're not asking me about. I told you at the top, 26, 8, 9, 14, 17, 18, 18, 20, 20, on 36, and 38 are the changes. Okay, so. But, like I told Dean Thompson, if you'll go on district viewer and look at the original 30, it'll tell you exactly where the line is. So as of right now, just can you, and I'm so sorry, I promise I'm not trying to be facetious.

Can you tell me those districts one more time? And I know it is completely. Absolutely, no, no, no. No. 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 14, 17, 17, 18, 18, 22, 29, 36, 38. Okay, I'm glad you said that. I have two questions, because you answered my question. So there aren't any changes to 30 and 33.

It's only to these lists from 26, 7, 8, 9, 14, 17, 18, 22, 29, 36, and 38. Just want to make sure. Okay. So you answer my question, so there aren't any changes to those. As it relates to CD9 and CD29, and I completely understand if you don't, have the answers to it because I know sometimes we just don't know. Are there any changes in the economic engines to CD-9 and CD-29? And the reason I ask is because those are traditionally districts that have had

minority representation and were minority coalition districts previous. So I'm wondering if there's been any changes to those coalition districts as it relates to their economic engines that have been used to help prop up those communities in those districts. Okay, and as a preference, we've already gone through the two Rochu and Petoway. So as you remember, there's a different view

on the legal involvement in the coalition. Do I specifically know? The answer is no. You could go on district viewer, but being a coastal guy, Now that CD9 has Liberty County, I think that's a great economic energy area. So I think you gained a whole bunch. Well, we're both coastal guys.

I will agree on that. What I will say is all the refinery and industry that is traditionally in the areas are between mainly Jefferson and Galveston parts of orange but mainly Jefferson and orange I'm not seeing what industry there is that is whatever here's my whole

deal Representative Davis this is a waste of time we know exactly what the public isn't going to do there's no amount of questioning there's no amount of oh let me get clarity they made it clear Donald Trump said get me five

they gave him five ain't nothing change and so at the end of the day when y'all did not allow them a quorum they couldn't pass the maps and I go back to if the two

Democratic state senators had walked their ass out with the other nine the Senate couldn't pass the map so what black people are saying is damn can these Democrats find some guts and fight to the end

Representative Davis Asia Uh huh? He asked her question Oh, I can't hear him You can't hear me No, she can't hear you Okay, all right

Y'all figure out why Representative Davis cannot hear me I can tell you this though, Roland while you're figuring that out So y'all, let me know figure out why she can't hear me Representative Jones, go ahead. So I don't know why Todd Hunter, the person who filed the map, doesn't know what's going on. He can't answer no questions, okay?

They actually have changed the demographics of 9, 18, 30, 33, and 29. I'm literally looking at it myself. Why doesn't he know his own maps? For example, a difference in CD8 in the current, in the proposed CD18, if you'll recall the previous, proposed CD-18 that we killed had 70.7% of the current CD-9, if you'll recall. They actually changed that and they lowered the number. So now the proposed CD-18 has 64.5%. They literally reallocated, they took out a larger part of CD-18 and put it in CD-29,

which is currently a Hispanic seat. So they did change things. Of course they did. Of course they did. Hold on. Do you do me favor. Let Representative Davis know. We're going to disconnect her line.

We're going to call her back. You're going to disconnect your line and call you back. So we can get the audio straight. All right. So they can get the audio straight. Let's go ahead and do that. And then, okay, so now let's disconnect and let's bring up representative disconnect. And bring it Representative Jones.

Guys, disconnect. Who, okay. Disconnect completely and reconnect, folks. So, let me do this here. Go to the hearing and then y'all fix this. Go to the hearing, and then we'll fix this issue with the audio. Go to my iPad, let's go. 36 and 30, you're correct?

No, I don't agree with you. The U.S. Supreme Court, as we've already talked, in many, many hours, Rucho says a jurisdiction may engage in constitutional political gerrymandering, recognizing that politics and political considerations are inseparable from districting an apportionment. It says that you can use partisan interests. It can use political performance.

It indicates that this is absolutely a factor. This is a U.S. Supreme Court, and we are able to use that. It's the same premise that I provided in the prior presentation. Has the U.S. Supreme Court ever put a precedent on doing mid-districting, mid-decade redistricting? We've done it before. Well, no, I know we've done it before, but he went to jail. So that's the reason I'm asking is, have we ever,

have they placed anything in there that says that? I don't agree with that. I think that's a remark that I would not agree with, to bring up somebody went to jail. I can give you 14 other reasons why maybe the other side was wrong. I don't think we want to shoot at each other in the hearing. No, no, no, no, no. But you don't, I don't agree with that.

There's nothing that prevents this congressional redistricting. No, no, no, no. And we could do it again. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is I'm going to go back to the previous last hearing is my district was redistrict mid-decade redistricting in 2003. And because of that, Tom DeLay was sentenced to jail because there were things that he had done during that. And Tom DeLay is probably going to get me. So I pre-apologize, but you didn't really have any.

So, no, what I'm saying is that. About this committee's substitute. No, I'm asking is because you brought up the Supreme Court. That's the only reason I promise. I'm not an attorney. I think you all know that I'm just a former simple staffer who's been here for 21 years in October. And I was just wondering if, been that long, I know. I have nothing else to do important in my life.

wondering if since we were bringing up the Supreme Court is it that we can do this because of performance and totally understand that Chairman Hunter was wondering if the Supreme Court had ever issued out a statement saying that mid-decade redistricting is something that I'm Noah, I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast, and I explain those fake headlines

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Tickets are on sale now. AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. This is not an issue because, again, the only reason I'm saying that is because the last person in Texas who did that did go to jail. Not saying you are anyone else. I'm saying the last person who did that in Texas went to jail because he was doing things on a federal level that was found to be. Representative.

Representative, found to be for him criminally to spend time in jail. You're off on not the committee substitute. You're going off. You know, this was all discussed August 1st. Yes, sir. This is August 18th. We're on a committee substitute, and we're not re-arguing those areas. If you have questions on this plan, I will focus on it.

We will not agree. I understand. We will respectfully disagree with each other. Mr. Chairman, let's focus on the subject. Okay, I want to focus on the subbed. And I'll just say this. Focusing on a committee substitute, has there ever been a Supreme Court ruling

that says the committee substitute or redistricting to be wrong? I think Representative, I feel you, in the sense of trying to tie the question to it. Really, the questions, I think, pending before the committee at this time are just about the change that have been made in the committee's substitute compared to the introduced and the explanations for those, as opposed to the constitutionality of mid-decade redistricting, which I think

doesn't touch the changes on the map. So if you have a question about particular change, certainly fair game. Perfect. Okay. I do actually have one. When it comes to Congressional District 33, Chairman Hunter, would you mind again, and I pre-apologize, can you give me the breakdown and the reasoning for 30, congressional district 33 changing from where it was to why,

like why we're moving it or changing it to where it is? So on that one, representative, so 33 did not change. So 30 changed. 30 did not change either. So it was 36. 36 and 38. Okay, so question of the chair then. Sure.

And please forget my novice for asking this question. I thought that when we changed any congressional district, even by one voter, it changed every congressional district because we had to move people. Fair question. So what you'll see on your district, and in front of you, Representative, if you'll see there's a handout that has at the top in red, plan C. Come on, bad. All right, so we should have the audio fixed. Representative Davis, can you hear me? Yes, I can.

Okay, it isn't this really an exercise in futility? The Republicans are going to do what the hell they're going to do. And at the end of the day, had y'all held out, had y'all not given them a quorum, this would not be happening, and they would not be able to pass the maps. As I said before, we had to get the audio fixed. You know, non-Senate Democrats walked out to two Latino Democrats stayed. And they were like, well, you know, we couldn't. we couldn't hold out forever, and so, you know, we stayed to fight.

I was like, you lost 19-2. What the hell kind of fight is that? And we know the same thing that happened at the House. We can, you know, go and say whatever we want to against it. We can, but they're going to pass it. They're not going to entertain any amendments. They're not going to entertain anything we have to say. They were given a tab.

I said, and that was to pass the math, that would give more Republican seats that would take away black voices and black votes. And that's what they're going to do. And they're going to do it as quick as they possibly can. You know, and that point, I mean, listen, it was very contentious of the last several days. Word came out Thursday. Of course, we covered this extensively on our show. Meetings were happening all weekend. And now we know what the real deal is.

Now we know that there were Democrats who were afraid. There were Democrats who, oh, hey, I'll only sit out one session. I'm not going to do two. And what I don't understand. The last several days, word came out 30. Guys, what I don't understand. What I don't understand here. What I don't understand, and it makes no sense to me, Representative Jones, why House Democrats

somehow could not realize that y'all were actually winning the argument and you have to build up momentum and just because California announced what they were doing it's not like oh okay California's gonna change their map so now let's go back because we don't

we've gotten other Democrats no your job is to fight for Texas let Governor Gavin Newsom do what he needs to do so let me be clear I thousand percent agree with you but California cannot just change their maps. California will not find out until November 4th whether the people who live in California

vote to actually change the maps. There actually was a poll that came out last week saying that two-thirds of Californians like it just the way it is with no mid-district, with no mid-decade redistricting. So that's not a done deal. But I,000 percent agree with you that even if California,

California is successful. And I hope that they're successful. I hope Californians vote to redistrict out every Republican. That still doesn't change the fact that we're going to lose two black congressional seats when we used to have four. And Texas has the largest population of black people in the United States of America. And it's not even a fight, Roland. It's just like we both know Third Ward. He went to high school in Third Ward. I'm from Third World. war. If we're going to have a fight down the street, I might go down there as me and you. But if I know, it's like 10 more people down there, am I going to be stupid enough to go by myself?

Hell no. And these people ain't even hide behind the bushes. They literally like here, and you better show up. And it just defies logic to me that people are happy with winning messaging wars and getting people to talk about stuff. The only reason that people were talking about us is because we were winning. The only reason people were inspired by us is because we stood up to the bullies. We were playing chess. They were playing tick-tac-toe, not even checkers, and we literally stopped them. We were gangster. And now they're going back, and they've been under house arrest for lack of a better word, grown non-criminal elected people, and everybody's trying to figure out, well, why, how are we having a redistricting committee meeting at 5 o'clock? How did that happen?

The second we gave them a quorum, they can do whatever they want to do to us, and they can roll over us, and that's exactly what they're doing. And if it wasn't so serious, it would be funny. I would think it's a big, fat joke. I mean, first of all, let's go back to the hearing. Give me 30 seconds. Go back. Historically underrepresented now in this moment that has had a very serious need and

has been vacant by the time someone would take the seat over a year, would we take that into serious consideration to understand the economic poverty that people who live in 18, particularly black and brown people who live in those districts have historically had to deal with since before the voting rights and after have gone into effect? As I have answered, you'll have to go to the district viewer, look at the exact lines to see where exactly. Representative Davis, they're like, man, look, we don't change the lines, period.

I just, what people, listen, Representative David, people were giving money. People were saying, yo, man, let's mobilize, organize. My greatest fear here, my greatest fear here is that this action here stunts all of that. And my greatest fear also is that you're going to have black say, man, listen, if y'all can't fight, hell, why should I fight? You know, black holders have been, black voters have been holding up the Democratic Party

for a while now. You have black women voting 90 plus percent in nearly every race is Democrats. But when it comes to black matters, a lot of times, that's not at the forefront of discussions. I have colleagues who are comfortable saying black. Our colleagues are We're talking about how racist the maps are. So they'll just say, Republican, Republican. I have some colleagues who said, oh, you know what? I was going to be out for one special session. I never guaranteed you anything more than that.

I didn't say I was just going to leave one session and then come back regardless. I said I was going to deny quorum so I can fight this map. And that's why I did not go back. So, you know, until we start to really start to value black people and not just our vote, not just knowing that we're going to come and vote Democrat, but I mean, actually valuing black people and black communities, that's going to be

something that Democrats are always going to have to struggle with. Absolutely. So, okay, so all right, so we'll roll in. Go ahead. Final comment. Go ahead. Let me show you something. All you got to do, this is actually the latest

map. Can you see it? It's on my phone. Yeah, we got it. Right. So my point is, it's easy for us to figure. out how they chopped up the lines. It's easy for us. And I think what Aisha and I are saying is that we just wanted to know what the deal was before we cornbroke.

Aisha, I don't know if you'll agree with me or not, but I at least initially didn't realize that we had enough people to corn break because when I was talking to people individually, there was a lot of hesitation. So I was surprised when we corn broke. I was always down for it. So I was thankful what I didn't realize

and what I wish I would have been told before I made this decision was that some people only agreed to corn break for not even two weeks. Let's be clear, Roland. Today was going to be two weeks that we were gone today. So we didn't even make it two weeks.

You keep saying two weeks, no. It's a day off. And I would have liked to have known that. And so if I'm a part of the team, you need to tell the whole team everything so the team members can make an educated decision because I don't like having to do explain to people while we leaving after less than two weeks, and I have colleagues saying

that was always the agreement. No, they didn't tell us that. They didn't tell me that because I could have won a messaging war at home. I didn't have to come here. I could have stayed locked in my house or I could have gone somewhere else. And so I feel bad for the American people because I understand how they feel because it's just like I'm them. I literally did not know all the information and I was never going back I never just agreed to stay gone for one session

and I never agreed to go into a fixed fight where we were going to lose so this when these bad maps passed and the legal precedent is not established that ain't got none to do with me

because the only way we guaranteed a win was to stay gone and they weren't even asking us we wouldn't have even had to stay gone as long as they did the Montgomery Bus Boycott. So, and then they tried to get us all to come back to give everybody cover. I'm not coming back.

Like, literally there are some of us saying there's no flowback. So I don't know who their constituents are, but they're definitely not my constituents. Because my constituents are literally blasting everybody that came back, right? And they are so thankful that I stayed gone. And Aisha stayed gone.

And this is what's funny. I ain't told nobody where I am because I don't know who's going to tell them where I am. So nobody knows where I am because I just don't know who's bought and paid for. And I don't know who's thieving on Django and Jane. So I'm just not going to, I can't do it. I understand. Well, we appreciate the both of you saying, hell to the no, no, we ain't doing that because, and I was clear, every black caucus member should have said, no, y'all want to do this here? Y'all go right ahead. But we are not going to.

to knowingly and willingly attend our own lynching. And what we are seeing with this map, what we're, what Republicans are doing is a political lynching of black political interest, pure and simple. Representative Jones, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.

Bring in my panel, Scott Bowles, an attorney here in D.C. Omicca, Ome, Congo, de Bingo, Senior, Professor Electoral School of International Service, America University. to have both of y'all here and we're going to be britt and zabor g is going to be joining us as well uh scott what i made it literally like why why will i go to my own execution and and and accept your invitation uh and sit down and say how you doing i'm here to fight shoot shoot me shoot me uh shoot the poison in my veins litch me go right ahead

I'm here. As a matter of fact, let me put the rope around my neck. Y'all go ahead and lynch me. Well, Roland, I don't disagree with you, but you know I'm going to get loyally on you now. If they don't have the numbers and they sat out one session, what's a win looked like and what's the pathway to winning? That's where I get lost on this because they've got served.

Okay, tell me about that because from the messaging, that's what's really missing. They could do this for a year, two years, but if you don't have the numbers, you don't have the numbers. So what does winning, a winning fight look like? Okay, okay, let me walk you through. So one of the state reps, he said this here.

He said 51 House Dems could resign. He said, what that means is the governor literally could not call. The governor couldn't, he cannot appoint 51 replacements. There would have to be 51 special elections. And you have laws in terms of when those elections would have to be, how long they would have to be. He said, so that was an option. He said, we haven't fully explored that. That's one.

Two, in talking with them, there were some of the lawyers were saying, well, you know, they could have pushed this thing to May because the legislature could always change the date to qualifications. have what election. Here's what we know. Now, Grant, let's be real clear. The Supreme Court could do whatever they want to do, but the Supreme Court has a certain precedent. And I guess is it personal?

Is that what it is? And so typically what happens? Okay, so the Supreme Court has a standard that they use where they sort of lock maps in place. So what they often say is that even if a map has been ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge,

they've said in the past it's happened. in Alabama and Louisiana that, hey, voters have to have enough time to be able to choose their candidates. Candidates have to be able to hit the filing deadline to run. So therefore, we will lock the maps in place because there's not enough time. So let's take Louisiana a couple of years ago. A couple of years ago, Louisiana passed their maps,

and it was like February they passed the maps. Well, the Louisiana primary, wasn't even until August. I'm Noah, I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast, and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would,

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run for the congressional seats in 26th is December. So there are many others who said, hey, if you hold out until December, not May, until December, then all of a sudden that Supreme Court precedent comes into play, and then the Supreme Court, based upon previous rulings, would say, hey, wait a minute. Texas, you can't come in and change a map in January or February, because the primary is in March and the General's in November, even though Texas could always move the primary. So those are a couple of the options there.

The problem is you got weak-ass Democrats. No, we can't hold her. No, we can't hold out. But why not come back? This is the problem I have. Go ahead. That you haven't talked about. Why not come back, give them the quorum, let them vote,

and then litigate the appropriateness in the matter? No, no, you can do that. The ability to do it. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. You can, no, no, and that is what their strategy is. Here's the problem with, here's the problem with that. Right now, the 2,021 map, the existing map is being litigated right now. Oh, see, that's, so the problem is, so here's, so here's, so here's, so the problem is, the problem is, the problem is, if that, you go for that legal.

strategy, they likely will have the proposed maps that get rid of five Democratic districts, those five two or black districts, those will likely be the maps for 26 and

28. Yeah, but what if you ask for emergency relief or equitable relief at a TRO or injunctive relief that stays everything? Scott? Gives you the status quote. And here's what happens. appeal, stay the injunction. Okay, we've been through this.

We've been through this in Alabama. I got you. We've been through this in Louisiana. And in fact, the courts, when Louisiana passed their maps, the courts ruled, the courts ruled, oh, this is unconstitutional. This is denying black people an opportunity. And the Republicans appealed. And then another court agreed, they got somebody else to agree.

Ben, his was so crazy. In Louisiana, it went to the Supreme Court of the Congo. The Supreme Court agreed it was unconstitutional, sent it back, the Fifth Circuit tried to circumvent it, then the Republicans tried to get it back to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court wouldn't hear it. The map stayed in place. Cleo Fields was elected in 2004.

now the same Republicans are going back to the Supreme Court and now the Supreme, but now they use another legal argument and now the Supreme Court has asked for, for not pleadings. They've asked for documents, whatever y'all want to call it. Briefings. Briefings. Explaining why coalition districts could be unconstitutional. So now you have the civil rights.

groups who are like, oh shit, they could literally rule coalition districts unconstitutional that could wipe out half of the 60 Congressional Black Caucus members, Omicongo, Republicans, they're going to try to have 19 bites at the apple. So the only way, the only guaranteed way to ensure these maps do not get passed if you don't give them a quorum. Wow, I mean, this is another example of how relentless Republicans are. They are nonstop, whether we're talking abortion,

whether anything, they are nonstop and they are going to pursue every legal and illegal means possible to keep power. Democrats want to talk about sharing and voting and everything. These guys only care about power. And, you know, there's that meeting going on at the White House with Trump and all these leaders. The only other people who are happy this is happy,

are these Texas Democrats because they are not the center of the news story today. And Gene Wu, they put out this letter talking about they did this and acting like they were like freaking Nelson Mandela or something, you know, returning home after such a long incarceration or something. They gave in two weeks, like Representative Jolanda Jones was saying, she wished that she knew, I wish that we knew. Do you know, the way that we were cheering them on and saying, you know, this is finally Democrats standing up and all of this.

and they were like, no, we just kidding. We were just trying to get everybody else's attention. We were just trying to get Gavin Newsom and others to act up. This is cowardly, man. And I know for many of us, it's deflating. It's deflating. Like, we were really looking forward to this to supporting them, sponsoring them, donating them, the like.

And they just do this. And as Representative Jones said, it's not even exactly two weeks. I don't know where Texas is going right now, but the fact, well, we know where it's going. But where the rest of the Democratic Party is going as it relates to this, I don't know, man, because when you say, like, black folks in Texas are like, well, why should that we even, you know, fight or vote or anything? I think a lot of us are saying that across the country right now, and maybe Gavin Newsom will prevail in November, maybe some of these other states will. But this is a serious setback, not only for the Democratic Party, but for the country, man.

So it sucks. So check this out, Scott. Check this out. This literally just came down early today. Go to my iPad. federal appeals court blocks Louisiana's new congressional map and blow the GOP. Now, this is on Fox News. Judge said Louisiana's congressional redistricting map amounts to an illegal racial gerrymander.

Okay. Now, now, mind you, mind you, we didn't already cover this territory, Scott. Judges for the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals rejected Louisiana's request to allow it to enforce its long-stalled congressional redistricting map. delivering a near-term blow to Republicans in the state by ruling that it amounts to an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. All three judges on the bench voted to uphold a lower court's ruling at the map in question originally passed by Louisiana's Republican Majority Legislature in 2022 violates Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. They also affirm the district court's ruling that the mapping question violates Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act by, packing black voters into a small number of majority black districts and cracking other black communities across multiple districts, thereby depriving them of the opportunity to form effective voting blocks.

Now, Scott, what we're seeing right here, what we're seeing right here, this is what I'm going to pull Zabori in the second for us. Go ahead and get to pull up as well. What we're seeing right here is that this is the fifth circuit. Now, let's be real clear. The Fifth Circuit is the most hardcore right-wing circuit in America. Scott, they were ruling on a 2022 map, this 2025. So you know what's going to happen? The Republicans are going to appeal this to the Supreme Court.

So the Supreme Court may not rule on this until 2006. Or the Supreme Court will say, hey, keep the current map. See, again, remember I to what text? Well, I kept trying to explain the text. The courts could say, hold up, locked the existing map in. They may not rule until 27, now affects 28. So that's why the Democrats, the most guaranteed way not to have the map pass, if your ass don't show up.

Yeah, I got you, Roland, but let me ask you this. Now, you're not going to like this argument, but there are other duties and responsibilities these Democratic legislators have serving their constitutional. Is you got staff? Dealing with the... That's why you got staff? No, I hear me out. Hear me out.

I know that's why you got staff, right? But you've got to admit, at least, that that's pulling on the Democrat... No, that's bullshit. No, that's... First of all, let me... Hold on, hold on, hold on. There is other business...

Hold up, hold up. Let me be in real clear... And aren't you advocating your responsibility... Nope, you're not. Staying away from the position. Nope, you're not. What do you say to those people... Nope, you're not.

Easy. What I say to those people... Easy, what I say to those... What do you say to that? Easy. What I say to those people and y'all don't want me to cuss. I'm trying not to cuss. So I'm going to give y'all five.

Don't say up. I'm going to give y'all 10 seconds. I'm going to give y'all 10 seconds to turn your TV down. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 3, 7, 6, 5, 4, 4, 3. FCC doesn't regulate internet. They only regulate license broadcasting. I know. I said that's what you need.

So the FCC does not regulate cable TV or internet. They only regulate broadcast licenses. Three, two, one. Fuck they heartstrings. Oh, God. Let me be real clear. Let me be perfect clearly. You have flood victims.

No, I, I, no. Well, guess what? The Republicans should have put the flood victims first on. The Republicans have told us the bore what their priorities are. Their priorities and the Republicans said, we don't give a damn 10030 people died to them floods. That shit ain't important. We're going to do these maps first.

That's what's about, and this is why you have to stop it. Zabor, when you're in a battle, when you're in a fight, you empty your clip. What you don't do is fire two of your 24 bullets and then say, all right, I'm going to hand you the gun. Let's go on here and we'll go back. You don't do that at all. It doesn't make sense. This has been what we do in Texas, though. We're not taking on the power that we have as Democrats.

We're running for it. We're being cowardly. And we're not standing in our power as Democrats. At the end of the day, when there was Hurricane Harvey and all these other situations where black individuals were impacted by natural disasters, they didn't make them a priority, and they showed it to get them. They never made those natural disasters approach. So I think it's really important that we focus on what can we do now.

Clearly, our Democratic representatives are scary and are not going to do what they need to do to protect us. So we have to, we have to keep applying pressure, make sure that these maps are not impacting any more than they already have to. I think there's no way for us to get around the decisions that they continue to make to not hold the response to the Republican Party. responsible for the actions that they keep in this same piece right here I want you all to see hold on a second this is what this is what it says right here the ruling from the Fifth Circuit which is a reputation as one of the more conservative appeals courts is a victory in the near term for the ACLU and other plaintiffs who sued to block the state's map from taking force still any relief

for plaintiffs from the appeals court ruling is likely to be short-lived. The Supreme Court in March heard oral arguments in Louisiana v. Callas, which also centers on the legality of Louisiana's redistricting map and whether race should be considered a factor in drawing new congressional districts. Oral arguments then focused heavily on whether Louisiana's redistricting efforts were narrowly tailored enough to meet constitutional requirements and whether race was used in a way that violated the law, as the appellees allege. The Supreme Court in June said it would hear additional arguments in the case in the fall

term, citing the need for more information before it could issue a ruling. Earlier this month, justices ordered both parties to file supplemental briefs by mid-September outlining in further detail arguments for and again. Louisiana's proposed map, and whether the intentional creation of a, I love this Omicongo, and Scott, I can't wait to get your legal, whether the intentional creation of a second majority black congressional district, quote, violates the 14th or 15th amendments to the U.S. Constitution, unquote. So Omay Congo, the white Republicans in Louisiana are trained.

trying to use the Reconstruction Amendments that were for black people now against black people for white people. Wow. Yeah. And they've been doing this forever, right? They are twisting everything that we fought for, whether we're talking about the Civil Rights Acts.

Like, they're using the basis of everything we fought for, again, in our faces. And this is one of the reasons why Trump has been targeting all these law firms so people are going to be around to stand up and have our backs. I mean, there are many that have been fighting for some of these big ones that have caved and they're like. This is so outrageous, but it's in their playbook. They will take everything possible. And the fact that a matter is, when you think about how people are abandoning Texas black Democrats and you talk about this situation now, Louisiana and other parts across the country, they do not care. They will

take language that we created critical race theory or slang terms like, we'll throw it all back in our face. They will take constitutional amendments that we fought for that helped give so many other people access to the American dream throughout time where we can talk about. They will throw it all back in our faces and say, now we're going to use it to protect themselves. This is absolutely ridiculous. And it should enrage anybody who has not been active already or who's been sitting there behind at home and not getting in the game right now. Because this is absolutely atrocious. So what their game now, Scott, is,

oh, we're going to use the Civil Rights Act against black people because, oh, this. I'm Noah. I'm 13. And as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast. And I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right question.

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Now, that was a court ruling. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Scott, you're going to get a kick out of this one. Federal court rules against Louisiana. Y'all going to laugh at this one. Hold on. Okay, allowed, that's federal.

This was, okay, so, Scott, you're going to love this one. The same Fifth Circuit last week, go my iPad. The same Fifth Circuit, Scott, last week said that Louisiana's state maps discriminates against black people. So here you got white Republicans in Louisiana Discriminating against black people Diluting black power with state maps Congressional maps and not the same white folks

Oh, the 14th and the 15th Amendment is hurting us white people Because these maps should not be used when it comes to race But oh we the ones who drew the maps and if we had actually drawn fair maps, black people would have been able to have a district. So now, Supreme Court,

we think y'all should get rid of all districts where you factor in race and that could wipe out literally half of the entire Congressional Black Caucus. Yeah, you know,

the other street strategy that we're not talking about is there are multiple cases pending in that Fifth Circuit. I've appeared before the Fifth Circuit judges, Chief Judge Pryor, at least he used to be the chief judge, is an arch-conservative, and there's several cases. You see, you pull two or three, but the strategy is to file several cases with different parties in order to get several rulings, and even if they're inconsistent, then they wind up at the Supreme Court. The other thing is this, the Fifth Circuit, as conservative as this, these white folks in Louisiana, they're drawn maps.

And in Texas and Mississippi and Georgia, they're drawn maps so blatantly racist and gerrymandered that even the conservative court, even as conservative court said, y'all can't eat all that now. Come on, you still got to have a legal pathway or factual pathway to make me make this work for y'all. This ain't even fair to me. I mean, like, like, they're so racist. They are so racist. Even a judge is like... They're just for your own races.

That's what I'm saying. And because here's the fundamental problem here. And this is the problem, Zabour, and the Republicans can't get around. They are hell-bent on. on stopping Democrats so they can hold power. And their problem is they hate on black people because they like, well, damn, y'all keep voting Democrat.

And it's because you some bitches, y'all ain't making no effort to even talk to black people. So it's like they mad that black people voting Democrat. And it's like, well, y'all ain't doing nothing. So your deal is, so we're gonna penalize Democrats by penalized black people, because black people, y'all problem is y'all vote too much for them damn Democrats if only y'all didn't vote for them. And my man Gary Chambers is watching the show, and this is what he said me. Appellants argue Dr. Alfred credibly determined that voting in Louisiana is mainly polarized based on politics, not race.

they offer no rebuttal however I don't know who Dr. Alford or Dr. King is so Gary you can tell me who these people are and again Gary has sent me like three different documents and this shit is hilarious reading this sort of stuff here this is what it says appellants

wait wait wait wait no wait wait wait they offer no rebuttal however to Dr. King's data which showed that white Democrats in Louisiana prefer guys go to my iPad come on please thank you Jesus why I shouldn't have to tell y'all I'm reading it dog just go to it come on

in Louisiana white Democrats in Louisiana preferred white candidates over black candidates and that the same was true for black Democrats who preferred black candidates over white candidates. Notably, even when Dr. King controlled for party affiliation, i.e. analyzed data for the 2022 Democratic Senate primary, where all voters were Democrats, white voters voted for the white candidate 60% of the time, while only 26% of black voters voted for that same white candidate. Contrastingly, in that same primary, nearly 74% of black

voters voted for the black candidate, while only 40% of white voters voted for the black candidate. Dr. King explained that these ratios showing more than a two-to-one difference were evidence of racially polarized voting. Similarly, Dr. Hanley analyzed the same data and stated that in every area in all instances, white voters gave more support to the white Democrats than the black Democrats. Conversely, at least in the larger set, black voters gave more support to black Democrats than

white Democrats. The data and expert testimony refute Dr. Alfred's assertion that there is no evidence of racially polarized voting because it is politically based, even controlling for political

party affiliation that was strong evidence of racially polarized voting in Louisiana, which Gingles found to be particularly weighting in the overall totality of a circumstances inquiry, given that we afford great deference to credibility findings and that the district court's decision to credit Dr. Handley's and Dr. King's analysis over Dr. Alpherson is well supported. We conclude that the district court did not clearly err in finding at the factor ways in favor of plaintiffs. what's crazy reading this

is what they're saying Zabori, I'm coming back to Scott and finally coming from Omicongo what we got right here what they say in Zabore is even the white folks in Louisiana are racist and the black folk

in Louisiana don't trust them white folk so the black folks going to vote for black people so for anybody in Louisiana to say no we got no race issue

in the state, you lost your damn mind. But that's why they want to attack research and studies and all of the funding that goes to make sure that we have this information so we can't improve these points. Without the data

and all of the attack that's on DEI and research and removing the funding, this information is super important right now. We need to know the numbers and how we're voting. And we already know it but we need the information so we continue to prove it so we can fight all of these things that they're doing in their different

silo. They try to keep the information away from us so we don't have the information to fight. But it's very clear. The white people in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, we're great for fuel and population growth, but they don't want us to have political power to be able to actually change things that benefit black people in a way they can elevate our communities. I love this one here, Scott. Again, I appreciate Gary Chambers watching the show and sending me the documents.

I love this here, Scott. It says, more broadly, the state's theory would impose a limitless obligation on Congress to continually refresh its legislative record for any statute enacted under the 14th or 15th amendments, including laws like the Family and Medical

League Act, Title II of the ADA, and the Fair Housing Act, The state identifies no limiting principle for this claim, and we see none. The Reconstruction amendments do not demand that Congress rejustify its judgments on a rolling basis. Scott, at the end of the day, these white Republicans in Texas are like, do we have to give these Negroes something? In fact, Scott, in fact, hold on.

And Scott, hold your thought. Reverend Dr. Frederick Dugler-Haines, the third is testifying in Texas. Go live now. We're between representation and those they represent, and their needs are met. That history that had been so ugly was solved once. We saw the need to not crack and pack, but instead create opportunities for our communities to elect representatives. And again, here's the beautiful thing about.

this state and about this nation, it's not even about color so much as it is about your character and your competence. We love to misquote King, judged by the color of your skin, content of character, not color of skin, to use it as justification to do what King was not talking about. And so again, I get back to what you said. There's an ugly history that has been overcome by redistricting that actually gave the voice back to the people. And so for us to go against that right now is a violation of a legacy of fighting for justice. And I can just imagine LBJ,

I can just imagine EBJ, upset right now because of what we are doing to a people who were saying, well, not only do we want to suppress your vote, but we want to ensure that your vote doesn't count when you do vote. Say that. Representative Pearson, you recognize the question of panel. Thank you, Chairman.

Thank you all for being here. Good to see you again. My question is for Congressman Allred. I don't know if you were here earlier when we talked about states like Illinois, New York, California. who've already done these types of maps. But you're not disputing that it's legal to draw political performance maps, correct? All right, we're going to go back to that.

That's that, that, that's that, Trump. She's in the state legislation. Yes, she is. Yeah, that, yeah, the person, the person, Katrina Pearson, the person got convicted of shoplifting, the Republicans put her ass in the state legislature. Yeah, yeah, that's that fool right there. So I can't listen to nothing Her Indian ass has to say

So Scott go ahead and answer the question I said before I was to break But the white conservative Republicans in Louisiana and Texas are deeply committed to racism The courts have told them that you cannot pack all black voters into one district

and pack them nowhere else but one or two districts compared to the rest of the map and create 10 white districts and pack them all into two. They've repeatedly been struck down, and yet they continue to make manifestations or machinations or elements of the same resubmitting it, trying to get the courts to approve it,

even though the courts have repeatedly said, you simply cannot do that. That's why in their view, in their racist view, they believe, well, I'm giving them a district or two. I'm not wiping them completely off the mantle. If I was to spread it all around, you say I'm disqualifying them, I'm disempowering them.

So I give them, I pack them into one or two, and now you say I'm disempowering that. But it's got to be a balance, the courts have said. And you can't do it, you can do it politically, but you can't do it intentionally based on race. But the problem, Scott, but Scott, here's the problem we face right now. Clarence Thomas has had a hard on

to completely get rid of the Voting Rights Act. And these right-wingers, I mean, again, they gutted Section 4, Omicongo. Five. No, they gut it in Section 4. Now, Section 2 is hanging on. 5.2. Section 2 is hanging on by a thread.

Like, Omei Congo, for people who are watching, I need them understand, when they ruled in favor of the Opportunity District in Alabama, they rule by saying Alabama violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. Louisiana District that was created, Section 2. So the only good news from this right-wing Supreme Court is that they have consistently,

praise the Lord, allow Section 2 to still stand. But the right-wing, they want to gut Section 2. And again, Clarence Thomas, he wants to rule the entire Voting Rights Act unconstitutional and unnecessary. Absolutely. This is, you know, John Roberts Court at his best. I mean, they are incrementalists. And when people look at the fall, the potential falling of this democratic experiment,

one of the main people that have to think is John Roberts. I mean, ruling after ruling, he has worked to dismantle this country. And dismantling the Voting Rights Act has been a part of that. And Clarence Thomas is salivating at the opportunity to do that. And so when people say things like, oh, it's not that big a deal. So we've always asked the question here, if voting wasn't that important, why are they trying so hard to stop us from doing it? And we see that they will stop at nothing. When are these Democrats going to wake up?

One of these legislators going to wake up. When are people going to have the ability to actually fight back? And, you know, I've said this multiple times. They talk about democracy, dies in darkness. It dies in the light of day. And it's often given away by complacent people who don't know enough and don't give a damn enough about what's going on. These Republicans aren't firing a single shot. They are taking over this country strategically by using water.

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not even just when you're on the show, but in your social media and everything, and more people need to be doing that. This is more important than the meeting going on with Zelensky right now as relates to the future of this country, and it needs our attention. So here's, I need people to understand, and this is, I pull this up, and this is the AI overview on Google, okay? So I need people to understand what this says here. There is some, and again, I need to really pay attention, y'all,

because this is the key. There is substantial evidence that Justice Clarence Thomas believes the Voting Rights Act is unconstitutional and seeks to limit or eliminate its power. Justice Thomas has expressed a longstanding view at the Voting Rights Act, particularly Section 2, is unconstitutional, arguing it has transitioned from addressing discriminatory voting practices to regulating and rationing political power among racial groups. He believes the VRA section 2, which requires considering. rates to ensure fair districting violates the Constitution's guarantee of equal protection. In dissenting opinions, including a notable one regarding Alabama's redistricting in 2003, 2020, again, 2023. I need to try to understand, okay?

Listen to me clearly. Okay? One second. Guys, listen, because of the breaking news, we got to read. I don't want to have to do it, but I have to rebook our health segment. I don't want to do it, but because of this breaking news that's happened literally while we are alive, I've got to go back and forth to what's happening in Texas as well. But let me go back to reading this.

Arguing that it has transitioned from addressing discriminatory voting practices to regulating and rationing political power among racial groups. He believes that VRA is Section 2, which requires considering race to ensure fair districting, violates the Constitution's guarantee equal protection. That's 14th Amendment. In dissenting opinions, including a notable one regarding Alabama's redistricting in 2023, Justice Thomas stated that the Voting Rights Act

has no power to prevent racially discriminatory gerrymandering and that he believes it only regulates the ability to cast a vote or get to the ballot box. Justice Thomas' views on the Voting Rights Act are shared by other conservative justices, including Justice Assembly Alito, Neil Gorsick, and Amy Coney-Barritt, who have advocated for a race-neutral approach to redistricting.

In July 2025, Justice Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch indicated a desire to weaken the Voting Rights Act by voting to deny a request to pause a lower court ruling in a case involving its enforcement. This is why this thing is scary. Zabor, then I'm going to go to Scott. on the Congo because what they're basically saying

Zabor is oh we throw this out there's no need for us there's literally no legal precedent no legal status no legal reason for us to review

so y'all can just draw whatever maps the reason we have power today is because of the voting rights act because they had to create these districts because they were not, they were disempowering black people. And so what the Republicans want to do

is they want to be able to draw, and I need everybody listening to me right now, what the Republicans want to do in Texas and Louisiana and Mississippi in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, the nation, they want to be able to create as many majority white conservative Republican districts, and if they are allowed by the Supreme Court, they will literally wipe out

black elected officials nationwide, school districts, city council, county commissioners, state reps, state senate, U.S. House. This Zabora is what Project 2025 was all about, what the Heritage Foundation was all about, and we were trying to tell black people, when Hillary was running, y'all get over your feelings about that white woman because they are trying to execute a strategy that will decimate black America and what I've been saying, they want to defund black America

and completely and totally destroy the political, the economic, the educational, the academic, the academic, the social infrastructure of black America. They have been doing this forever. This is nothing but

Jim Crow 2.0. They're taking and trying to act like it's neutral and act like it makes it fair. But it doesn't do nothing but destroy our communities, destroy our political power. Take away everything

that we've worked so hard to have and take away the ability for grassroots organizations to challenge these things, for us to be able to work in the community in the ways that we fought these things in the past, we're not going to be able to do that because they're giving all of that power to a political power that has shifted from elites having some of our representation to having none of our representation. So it's really just disheartening overall at the impact and the long-term impact that this is I have, but we don't do anything to figure out how to fight it.

And see, Scott, again, this is why I keep trying to tell a lot of people. Stop watching these bullshit, stop doing the gossiping, understand what's going on. Here's another one. This is from the Constitutional Center. And that is, this happened in July 2025. Okay? It said right here, last week, Clarence Thomas targeted a major tool for challenging violations of our civil rights. And this time he got vigorous pushback from his colleague, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson.

The tool is known as Section 1983 of Title 42 of the U.S. Code. It originally was Section 1 of the Civil Rights Act of 1871, better known as the Cool Clux Klan Act, one of the most important civil rights laws in U.S. history. The Act was intended to protect Black Americans from white supremacist violence in the post-Civil War South. Section 1983 allows an individual to sue a state or law. local government official who has violated his or her constitutional rights. A violation could involve freedom of speech, freedom of religion, due process, and more. It's not enough to allege a violation of the Constitution of federal law, the claim must

allege a violation of clearly every established right. Okay? Section 1983 claim was at the heart of the 63 decision in Medina v. Planned Parenthood of South Atlantic. Okay? In Clarence Thomas, Justice Thomas, uses 13-page concurring opinion to focus on the course of jurisprudence on Section 1983, which he wrote bears, quote, little resemblance to the statute as originally understood, unquote.

Section 1983, he argued, originated as a narrow reconstruction era statute, but has now exceeded its original limits. Now, Scott, with the federal law courts, it came starting in Arkansas. In Arkansas, a lawsuit was filed that said, when it comes to voting cases, only federal only the Department of Justice could file lawsuits. So what they argue, and the appeals court agreed with the Arkansas case, Scott, and it's on the way

to the Supreme Court, they are arguing that the NWACP-LDF, the Lawrence Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the ACLU, Black Voters Matter, they are arguing that any group, any group, any legal group, anybody,

matter of fact, they are arguing that Scott Bolden does not have the legal right to file a voting rights lawsuit because you are not a member of the Department of Justice. So they want to

block the entire civil rights legal infrastructure from being able to challenge voting rights laws on the local, state, and the national level. And DOJ, under this

administration, or any other white conservative administration ain't going to file a damn thing. Those cases, usurp or turn on its head organizational standing, right? And individual standing, the core principles of how you file a lawsuit on behalf of someone or organizational standing because of your interests and your mission as an organization. And when that case gets to the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas is going to have a fair amount of support. It'll be interesting to what Robert says about that, and whether he believes that's too extreme or not, because he'll have the three or four liberal judges on his side,

but he won't have enough for a majority. And he's got to pick off Kavanaugh, and he's got to pick off perhaps Comey Barrett, although on this issue, these justices and white conservatives, all of this emulates from a base that we are now a colorblind society. that we are tired of making up for the past wrongs of black and brown people. And we paid enough, essentially. We paid enough. And as a result, we, white America is being discriminated against us. These laws are working against us, which completely ignores the socioeconomic and health disparities

of black people in this country, and that the numerous lawsuits that have still filed workplace discrimination cases and what have you. I don't know where they're getting their empirical data from. that says we're a colorblind society now and discrimination and racism just no longer exists because you've got to believe that if you believe in the decisions

that are coming out of the conservative court there's no data for that whatsoever but Scott you got to remember you got to remember when they gutted the VRA Shelby B. Holder John Roberts his opinion essentially was

it worked look at black turnout in 2008 He argued We don't need these things Because in 2008 The percentage of black people Who voted in the presidential election

For the first time in American history Was higher than the percentage of white people And we're like Yeah, dumbass That happened because of the law And if you don't have the law It's going to go down And what happened?

They ruled in favor of Shelby County And Republican state legislature immediately moved to what change district lines get rid of voting locations they immediately began ever since 2012 there has been nothing but a attack hold up there's been nothing but a systemic attack on voting people of color black people and others from the moment the decision came down and it's like Roberts what the hell was your dumb-ass thinking and what they used to same philosophy and the same theory in the Harvard case

where they eliminated race as a factor. Oh, oh, no, no, no, I've got Asian. But wait, but wait, but wait. I love this one here. I love this here. The Asian plane, as a matter of fact, y'all going to think I'm lying, Scott, finish your point. I'm about to show y'all, if y'all want

to see what happens when your ass... When your... No, Scott, I'm going to blow you up. You want to crack up. Okay, because in that, remember, it was Asian folk who got with a conservative white lawyers took down affirmative action. Hold up, hold up, y'all, okay, I'm going to type this in.

Y'all think I'm lying, I'm not lying. Okay, okay, no, no, no, no, listen. Listen, Asians want quotas at Harvard. Y'all think I'm lying. See, this is what happened when you're dumb-ass sue. When you're dumb-ass sue, so what's happened, what's happened is, So they sat here and they sued, and now they're like, hey, what's going on? Now, this is what AI said.

AI says, no, Asian Americans are not seeking quotas at Harvard. Some Asian American groups have, however, raise concerns and filed lawsuits alleging that Harvard's admission policies discriminated against Asian Americans. So here's the problem. They actually, these groups argue that Harvard's consideration of race and admissions, even if not explicitly using quotas, effectively limited the number of Asian Americans. This is what happened. They sued the Ivy Leagues.

They threw out affirmative action. And then the next year, it was fewer Asians admitted than before. And they were like, what the hell? And black people were like, hashtag, we tried to tell you. Them dumb asses, they thought, they thought, oh, we got rid of affirmative action at Harvard and Yale and Columbia. Oh, we bought. Oh, we bought. to have, we're about to have a lot of our kids in the school,

and then white folks went, uh-uh, no, you're not. And so, and so, and so I'm linking this, uh, Omey Congo to what's happening in Texas. Don't, listen, the Latinos in Texas, and there are Latinos in Texas, Ome, Congo, who are sitting here going, now, you know, listen, there's four black districts. Now, they're going to lose two, but the Republican, can say the publicans say they're going to create five districts oh we're going to pick up five

districts okay y'all go ahead f a f a if you want to go ahead but they're doing that across everything hold on one second hold on hold on zabore omicongo then i go to use a bore omicongo go ahead that's exactly what's going to be happening just like what's happening with with this example of asian students at harford people keep falling for this okey-doke of oh these republicans are going to take care of us they're going to take care of us and And the Republicans are great at stacking groups against each other. I remember a case back in 1927 in Mississippi where, you know, a Chinese family tried to sue to get,

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And they know that we will fight each other to try to get any little more so that we can to feel equal to them as opposed to building our own platforms and building our own coalitions. That was what they did with Harvard. These affirmative action cases. That's what they're doing in Texas right now. And if people continue to fall for this, I mean, it's the same thing that happened with the whole issue with, uh, uh, um, documented immigrants. Oh, they're just going to come for the Latino criminals. And now you got Haitians up in there. You got African Americans being pulled off the street. When in like seven months, man, this is all happening. When are we finally going to get it together that they're coming

for all of us and they're picking us apart one by one because we have not been able to show any type of unity? And they are a small, they are not large in number, but they are large in their mindset in terms of how to use the laws against us, how to play the race wars against us, how to play culture wars against us, and maybe this will be the time to wake up, Roland Martin, but I am not convinced in this moment. Zaborah, go ahead. This is impacting so many different groups. When it comes to disabled individuals, it's like you can watch disabled individuals

that are not disabled individuals of color, both in a direction that has directly impacted Medicaid, Social Security cuts, and job opportunities, opportunities to give you the resources you need for a combination network. We took away sign language interpreters in this place. So you're watching Section 2 of the VRA impact, not only black people, but you are impacting your own interest as a disabled person that's white or a disabled person that's Latino voting on that sign.

Now realizing all of the things of your life, from your insurance to your daily life, being impacted. And it's not going to get better. It's only getting worse. Listen. And then you take away those organizations that can fight for you.

Listen. Not realizing Hey, hey, Scott, I keep saying these Asian Americans, these Latinos, y'all ain't white. Now,

y'all can try to play the simulation game. all they want to but white power is about white power and whether whether today yesterday it was a Negro like all of the Latinos

who voted for Trump mm-hmm F-A-FO 125 like welcome to the border and it's like and it's like yo I mean it's like again like y'all can sit all these other folk let's be real clear black people

our sweat blood and tears past these laws. I say this all the time. I said, if you are a woman and you are a doctor or a lawyer

or an engineer or if you were something, go to professional schools, y'all need to thank black people. Because in 1972 Title IX was passed. Tile 9 wasn't about

sports? Title IX was about opening the professional schools to women because they were discriminating. What's Title IX? No, nobody ever asked, well, where Title IX come from? Well, shit, what's the first eight titles? Tile Nine come from the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That was black people. I say if you Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, whatever, and you get to vote in your native, language, y'all better thank black people, because that's 1965 Voter Rights Act. It's real clear, okay?

Okay, all y'all get to live what y'all want to live, y'all might want to thank black people. That's a 1960 Fair Housing Act. You gay and you happy, you get to get married? Go on ahead and thank black people. Because that's the 14th Amendment Equal Protection

Clause. That's one of the Reconstruction amendments that was passed. Hell, if you disabled and you are thankful for the ramps and other things that came from the 1996 with the American Disabilities Act, y'all better be thanking black people because the America Disabilities Act

comes directly from the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So here's the truth whether folk want to accept it or not. If you have some rights in this country that are civil rights thank black people because it has been black people that has forced America

as Dr. King said be true to what you put on paper so these rights didn't just happen black people made these rights if we walk down the line, Scott of the numerous legal rulings in so many areas

hell, it's white people walking around, right? First of all y'all broke-ass white people y'all should be thanking black people too okay? Because y'all benefited from LBJ's war on poverty he didn't launch that in the Mississippi Delta he launched that in white appellation

I mean, so we can just go down the line we can go down the line of things that black people have fought for legislatively in America that has benefited everybody and so it's a matter of fact white people let me be clear

whether you're a white Democrat a white Republican a white conservative or white liberal America did not believe in democracy until black people made them

the reality is America did not fully and it still ain't done in fully but America did not fully embrace democracy until black people made them do it

with those three civil rights acts in the 1960s and so when y'all want to talk about founding fathers and y'all want to talk about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin and John Quincy Adams

you all better have a second group of founding fathers and mothers called Dr. King, Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young, C.T. Vivian, Diane Nash. We can go on and on. We can sit and talk about Septima Clark,

Fannie Lou Hamer, Constance Baker Motley. It was black people that made America be true to what they put on paper because until then they were not practicing what was on them

damn, all them goddamn documents. Scott, what's your question? You can you can speak on that if you desire. You fired up the night, boy. God damn. Roman giving us a whole history lesson

in like 20 minutes. I'm thinking they're taking notes as a more. I mean, you know, went through the whole process. I think the beauty of all of those laws is that they were written broad enough to apply to white women, to apply to disability.

abilities to apply to human rights, gay marriages, and what have you want. And that's the brilliance of it. The downside of that is they've been written so broadly that now that white America believes that we are in this colorblind society, they're using the same principles to argue that they're being discriminated against or the reverse discrimination, if you will, which completely bastardizes not only the legislative intent, but the prior implementation of these laws to protect rights, not to take rights away. So those are my best thoughts.

And that's because Omic Congo. On your presentation. Damn it. Omic Congo? Because what has happened is these white folks. And again, I don't know what. Listen, I tried to tell people in 2009, I'm waiting to go on CNN with John Avlon, who's now in Congress. And me and John were talking about his book, Ween Nuts.

And this is what I said. I said, John, we are living. in the beginning stages of white minority resistance. And he looked at me, and he was like, huh? He said, rolling. White people are majority in America. I said, John, you don't understand. I said, John, it's before I, this is the basis

of my book, White Fear. And all these media folk who wouldn't book me on their networks, because they want to talk about it, it's playing out. And the problem is, these white folks don't wanna put white on in Congo, they don't wanna talk about for what it is. Well, I said, I said, John, these white folks cannot handle America becoming a nation

of people of color. I said, these white folks cannot handle sharing power. These white folks cannot handle losing power. And when I saw the white death rate, I think it was Newsweek did a story that said the white death rate in 10 states had surpassed white birthright, I went, oh shit, this thing is started. And ever since 2000, I'm just, and that's why the great replacement theory, that's

why they want to get 11 million Latinos out of this country, that's why they don't want no black, they don't want no Africans, no Bermudans, no Haitians, they don't want, they want white purity because what they are trying to do, Omicongo, and that's what these districts are about in Texas. 61% of Texas today is black, brown, it's minority. 30, not white people are the minority in Texas today. But Ome Congo, here's the problem. And this is why I keep telling all these simple Simon, dumbasses,

who keep saying otherwise. 61% of Texas is people of color yet 61% of the people that vote in Texas are white. Yeah, and let's also add what they're doing to erode women's rights and to their own bodies, which makes it harder for black and brown families, particularly to get...

No, no, no, no, but see, I'm going to put that shit on them lazy-ass white women, okay, who voting along with their white men I ain't putting, no, no, let me be real clear. I ain't putting women's rights with our shit, because that ain't women's rights. That's white women's rights. The bottom line is, and I'm being real specific here,

because the problem is, is that them white women in Texas have been sitting on their ass or voting along with their white men, they white husbands, they white brothers, they white sons, they white nephews, because they also believe in patriarchy. And the bottom line is, listen, Pete Higg said,

retweeted that clip of his white pastor and none of these old punk-ass national media people have challenged him on how did you retweet a video of a white pastor who's his pastor who is on record as saying he don't want women to vote. And see, I need, and the reason I ain't putting black women in that shit? Because guess what?

Susan B. Anthony and the rest of them racist-ass-ass white women in the suffrage movement, They didn't want black women voting. In fact, she said, I'd be damn if a black man going to have the right to vote before a woman has a right to vote. And that's why, what's that Zabora? What's that poem, Black women love quoting? Ain't I a woman?

Y'all better go read on the back story of that poem because the poem was written not, not to men. She wrote that. poem to address the racist white women who did not want to include black women in the suffrage movement. That's just a little bit more history for the folk who don't read.

Oh, Mekongo, go ahead. No, and I get your point, and I'm saying what I brought up the women's rights and access and all that, it makes it harder for black people to be able to reproduce. You know, we look at the mortality rate of pregnant black women and the like,

that's where I was going with it. But the fact that the matter is when it comes down to it, The thing that scared me about the history lesson that you just said about the amendments and the Civil Rights Act, like, we know that story. But then I start thinking, damn, these Republicans are so shrewd in what they're doing, the way that they're attacking the schools, how the kids are going to get that history, how the next generation are going to get that history to be able to arm themselves to be able to fight, which is why this network is so important, because they are hitting us from every single angle. Because if people don't know that story or the conservative Baker Martleys and the Dr. King's in the life, who are going to be their idols that have to be. to fighting for justice. They're going to feel like they can't do anything

because, as Malcolm X said, if you were convinced that you never did anything, you're going to think you can never do anything. So they have a multi-pronged approach, and we need a multi-pronged strategy. And Democrats in Texas let us down as part of that strategy, but this is a fight that we have to keep fighting

and speaking up for because, quite honestly, rolling, we don't have a choice. It's like you said a few months ago, you just refused to sell out your ancestors, period, bottom line. And if more of us thought that way, we'll be able to make some progress right now, but too many people are just too complacent

and they think nothing's going to come for them and then before you know it, you got 300,000 black women being, you know, kicked out of the workforce. People think they're going to come for them and all of a sudden they're putting us in their detention centers as well. When are people going to wake up?

If it's not now, I don't know when it's going to be, but I know that we have to keep on fighting because better days will be ahead if we don't quit. You know, you got somebody in chat. Hold on. I responded to it. Denise Spaw, too much cussing, going to watch Joy Reid's show. Okay, bye.

I mean, but you can get mad to cussing. You can get mad to cussing. Well, you can get mad to cussing all you want to, but they're screwing you over. You ain't even realized what's going on. I mean, see, the point that Olmey Congo just made is by design what they're doing when it comes to the schools.

Because they freak, I keep trying to tell y'all. All of this stuff, y'all, it started with Obama's election in 2009. Then it picked up with Trump running. Y'all, America history is American history. You cannot, please, by all means, I dare any of y'all watching to refute what I'm about to say. You cannot show me a single period in American history

where white, where black success has never been. been followed by white backlash. You can't file. I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast, and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would. Like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions.

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and books and everything? That shit ain't got nothing to do with no LGBT trans and underwent. You know what I had to do with? The murder of George Floyd. Because when George Floyd, because the Black Lives Matter movement,

Zabori, it was the first time in American history that a black, focused, black-centered movement saw a majority of Americans approve. And these white concerted's went, oh, hell no. So what did they do?

There was a concerted, precision-like attack on Black Lives Matter they said we cannot allow this movement to become as powerful as we saw

the black freedom movement in the 1960s and they targeted 2021 in 2022 at racist Christopher Rufo and he put it on Twitter they said we are going to

put everything black and everything minority under critical race theory. I told y'all I was the news

director morning anchor in a black target of radio station in KKDA, managing editor to the Houston defender, managing editor of the Dallas Weekly,

work for the Dallas examiner, managing editor, the general manager the Chicago defender. I wrote for Ebony. I was a contributing editor

at essence, major broadcaster cable network, black, TV1, black, Tom Jonas, Black America Web, Tom, John, Morning Show, black, black, black, black, black. In all of my years in black media, I had never, ever heard of critical race theory. Because that was a legal theory that I, y'all, I ain't never heard of that. But the white folks were like, oh, we're going to make that the boogeyman.

And what do they do? They lumped everything under it. What happened in 2020 through? All white folks would show up the school board meeting. Y'all teach the critical race there. Superintendent, no, we're not. No, we're not. No, but they, but guess what happened?

It fired white folks up. They ran for school board. They ran into midterms, and then white folks took over school boards, minds for liberty. You know what they started doing? Firing black superintendents. In 2023, woke, woke, woke, woke. You got dumb asses like Bill Maher

complaining about woke. Woke. Woke is going too far. They took Woke, like they took defund the police, and they changed the focus of it and tossed it right back and made it a massive negative. Woke, then Negroes are going, man, you bet not be woke, you bet not be woke.

I'm like, dumb ass, don't you do realize what you've been saying? And then, in 2024, it was DEI. Y'all, all of that emanates from the murder of George Floyd because they said, we saw what you Negroes did after Emmett Till got lynched that was 13 years of nothing but protests and laws change that was the second

reconstruction then he said we saw what you Negroes did after 243 years of slavery and y'all had that reconstruction period over that 12 13 years really lasted 6 to 7 years we are not going to allow a third reconstruction to last even five years. That is what happened. And Zabora,

black folk, again, I understand, dancing, partying, Negroes are having a time of their lives in Martha's Vineyard, but I'm telling you right now, these white folks are coming after everything, everything,

and they do not want to leave anything to chance. And so we better wake to hell up and recognize that we had better be voting in massive numbers because they want to control it all. For sure, that's why we have to get back to what our roots are. We have to educate each other. We've never needed the books and all the things. They benefited us, but oral history has been part of our culture forever. If you get rid of or keep dilute the BRA section two, we're

not going to be able to fight these things. Not only George Floyd, but Sandra Bland and all of the other things that were happening allowed us to mobilize. We got to get back to that mobilizing each other and understanding. You're definitely right. They said black women are the most educated. Now you see all of these black women that are laid off. Boom. Everything is...

Boom! See, girl, sustained. That's right. If this is a courtroom, the judge was sustained. Go ahead. I'm just saying.

We got to fight back. We can't keep being quiet about it, allowing the people around us to say, oh, that's not important. Oh, we can't do nothing about it. I'm from Texas. I'm from Houston.

If six, 61% of Texas is black people, and we're not able to drive people in buses from the church to the polls anymore. They've been attacked in our faith, hood, and run. If it wasn't important, they wouldn't take it. Right. So it's time for us to get up and do something about it. Well, actually, of fact, 61% Texas is minority and not black. And Scott, and Scott, learn to go with the damn bit.

Yeah, I heard your little, you little petty ass saying, well, an objection has to be made. for the judge to say sustain. Y'all heard your little petty ass. I don't miss nothing. So go with the damn bit. When you make a point, you say sustain. But go on here and make your damn comment. I respond to questions.

You're just luxuried us tonight. No, I'm not. No, Scott. No, no, Scott. No, no, Scott. No, all of us tonight, Scott, we don't need a question. All of us tonight are trying to actually teach people

who are watching. Okay, because the problem is, the problem is, folk are acting like, ah, man, this really ain't no big thing. They don't understand. It's so fine, since you need a question, damn. So I don't need a question. No, no, no, you need a question. So here's the question, since you're begging for a question.

Explain to people, explain to people what happens when you codify Jim Crow 2.0 and racism that's not dressed as that way. Explain what happens when you codified it into law how difficult it is to overturn it. To decodify

it, if you will. There you go. And you get an authoritarian democracy, which is essentially what we're living in. You codify racism, you devalue DEI, you know, D-E-I, and

and the federal protections against race discrimination and discrimination with those protected classes, that's still on the books. But you see how Donald Trump and the Republicans in the House and Senate have bastardized it now, not just turning around DEI and make it a bad name, but speaking it into existence, the media speaks it into existence, and now DEI is a bad word, if you will. And so you get the Supreme Court where the expansion of executive powers of this Trump administration, you see the lower courts, the Article III courts, are striking down his attacks on the unions, his attacks on getting rid of agencies, his attacks on schools, his attacks on law firms, right?

Well, the Article III courts, the lower courts are all, if you fight, you win against Donald Trump because it has no real legal basis, even taking over D.C. or federal. generalizing federal troops to come in here when there is no crisis whatsoever. And then you get to the Supreme Court, and they expand his power to say, well, that's okay, maybe, or they give him just a little bit, and he takes it and runs with it. And the amount of lives, these created facts that have no basis, that become the basis for these baseless lawsuits and stuff. So you've either got to fight if you can't afford to fight, you're going to be creating not only

bad law, but bad legislation. And until the Democrats can get the House or even more, you've got to then undo everything Donald Trump has done. And these executive orders can be undone. But what about the damage that's been done for the last four years? When they shut down the museums and they start telling lies about our story, and all they want is a white pristine story about the history of America, even the founders said we are in search of a more perfect union, right? America has never been perfect, not for any of us. We've always wanted it to be something more than she is, and we see in the last election with Donald Trump, she is who we thought she was, and she's still that person, which is why we are not in

the race-blind, color-blind society on any circumstances. And my biggest concern is when Trump doesn't run again, and be careful because he might run again, their pathways to that, let's not sleep on that piece and stuff. But if the Democrats can't take the House back, right, how do you undo four years or more of this whitewashing of these lies that are being told? If you look at the history of authoritarianism and communities and societies in other parts of the world, Donald Trump is the strong man of democracy. And I use democracy with a small deed because he's not respected the democracy at all. And because we voted him in, we, America, if you will, not me, not you, but America's voting back in, there's a real

sense in this country that what was the fight for? And what are we fighting about? Because this was America's choice. Now, it was a close race, much closer than he would let you think. But he's the master marketeer. He's the master at lying and making it become the nomenclature of America, including getting us distracted from Epstein, where he clearly was committing acts that would not be appropriate, and I'm trying to clean it up. But we're talking about D.C. and we're talking about Ukraine, right? We're not talking about the Epstein files anymore. We may never go back and talk about him. So whatever something... Oh, yes, we will. Yes, we will. this administration. Well, I hope so. But whenever we go back, when do we get back to all these

issues and the undoing? You can spend the next four years after Trump is gone, if Trump is gone, undoing the damage he's done across arts, culture, science, academia, legal, politics, social. I mean, they are a full court press on changing who America is as opposed to who they want them to be, which is a majority white supernationalist theocracy in many respects. And see, Omicongo, if you want to understand, and all these people may be saying, I mean, I just think y'all just don't look too much.

This is a media eyepiece. The disturbing rise of Nick Fuentes highlights dangers of alternative media in an anti-woke world. Who is Nick Fuentes? It says right here. In recent weeks, far-right provocateur... He heads up the boogaloo boy.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Far-right provocateur and white nationalist leader, Nick Fuentes, has been receiving accolades from many of his fellow pro-Maga travelers for his ongoing feuds, the likes of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens as well as for his vicious

anti-Israel rhetoric. Now, Glenn Greenwald, okay, fierce critic of Israel's so-called progressive, heaped praise on Fuentes in mid-August saying, quote, he is quote, spectacularly talented. I mean, he's like, like, you know, a very

rare, like generational talent in terms of his ability to go before the camera, attract attention, be charismatic, but he's not like a ranter and a raver. Nick Fuentes is very well read, very, very informed.

There aren't a lot of folks who know more about Nick, who know more about the topics Nick Fuentes covers, and Nick Fuentes is very impressive, Edda Greenwald, the former Guardian journalist turned podcaster. On the Congo, Glenn Greenwald is literally talking about an absolute, flat-out, decrepit racist. Look at this here.

Yes. Vincent O'Shanna, a co-host on Patrick Bet, Bet David's popular podcast offered a similar take agreeing that Fuentes is on a quote generational run he added and right now I don't care what anybody says he is freaking on fire

Bet David also said he would be open to having Fuentes on his show which would give him access to his massive audience and potentially bring him into their ecosystem last point

who is Nick Fuentes Omic Congo? Oh, he's the racist who went with Kanye West to Mar-Lago and had lunch with Donald Trump. Why am I saying all of this Omic Congo? Because these people

are openly praising somebody who is gleefully racist and a self-described white supremacist and anti-Semite. but for the right

he's their guy so when you talk about so they there are no guardrails there is not they are these are individuals so I was on remember Patrick Beck David was that fool

I destroyed down in Florida so he's saying oh I will gladly put on this nasty despicable racist on my show Wow.

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So all of these guys are having their moments now in the sun, in the sun, but they've been doing it for years. And now they're being platy and it's disgraceful. But it's only more disgraceful if we don't wake up and speak. to speak to it and fight. These people who are liberals, Democrats, you want to be siding with the Nix Wentez and them against Israel? No, you're anti-Ni-Jahu. This guy is anti-Jewish. It's a whole

different conversation that people need to be having right now. And Nix Fuentes ain't the only one who's being platformed by these guys. They have made it impossible, no, not impossible, but they have made it extremely difficult for people to be called a racist and lose their career. To be called an anti-Semort or

homophobic or Islamophobic and lose their career. They're getting paid. Some of us, I'm sure, saw that Medi Assan Jubilee clip where they have like 20 young people who are just like Nick Fuentes and now they're being platformed as well. This is America right now. People who think that the

youth are going to save us, the youth aren't going to save us, if youth like this keep getting platform, and we're not doing enough to uplift the people who are their age and similar or younger who are fighting this. And that needs to happen right now because people just think, oh, the youth are going to come and, there

are young people out there who are doing this work. But these guys are having a platform, and they are all across the country. On our college campuses, they are emboldened right now. Look, last thing I'll say, in one of the high schools I work at, there was a girl who said, oh, yeah, Trump's white girl said to a black girl, oh, Trump got reelected now. I can actually shoot you now in the middle of Fifth Avenue, nothing's going to happen to me. Like, this is happening in our schools. I know an eight-year-old who a girl said, oh, Trump is now in office.

You better run. They're going to enslave you. So, and I know I said last week, actually last week. And now pray to you. You try to close like a Baptist preacher. Come on, out. To create racist literature to put in our schools for the founding of America's 250th year anniversary. So, so I'm going to read this here.

It is what you understand. Again, when you see the open embracing of a violent racist, understand they are mainstreaming him. and that's what they're doing like they mainstream and accepted and glossed over Trump's bigotry this is what this mediaite story says past action taken against Fuentes for his bigotry

has now led many to embrace him particularly as anti-woke sentiment permeates every corner of the maga base bet David pushed Oshana on why he's embracing Fuentes now and he replied quote You know what it is? Because, okay, name the person that can't even be on YouTube.

He can't be on YouTube because of the stuff that he says they froze his bank account. Oh, y'all, the next paragraph says it. Fuentes was deplatformed in recent years over his explicit anti-Semitism, as well as his repeated calls for limiting the rights of women, minorities, and the LGBTQ community. And then there have been some stories saying he's actually gay. his regular use of violent rhetoric has also caused alarm. Now, Glenn Greenwald was praising Fuentes Glenn Greenwald's also gay.

That's insane to me. Okay? So, I just want you to understand. I'm going to read his last one. In 2022, for example, Fuentes called for a dictatorship to get rid of, quote, the Jewish media that has made America's, quote, evil by making various things popular. Quote, Sodombe is popular. You know, being gay is popular.

being a feminist is popular, sex out of wedlock is popular, contraceptives are, that's all popular. That's not to say it's good, that's not to say I like that. Popular means that people support it, which they do. And it sucks, and it is what it is, but that's what we need detership. That's unironically why we need to get rid of all that. He ranted, adding, we need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe in what we believe

or force them to play by our rules and reshape society. Let me see it again. I'm trying to see this quote again because I'm about to close this thing out we need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe what we believe

or force them to play by our rules and reshape the society so folks this white supremacist who had lunch with Trump and Kanye who's now being openly embraced by right-wing MAGA stars.

He is now being repositioned as a voice of reason, as a generational talent. What he's saying, they are using government to force us to believe what they want us to believe. Donald Trump is weaponizing the Federal Communications Commission to force media companies, to get rid of DEI and do their bidding.

So what Nick Fuentes has said, MAGA is doing that. And so if they are openly embracing an anti-Semite, a bigot, a racist, what do you think the next level is? They are going to make him one of their stars. and we are going to have a bigger bull's eye on us. Y'all had better pay attention.

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