#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Tyre Nichols bodycam video To Be Released, Stevie Baggs' Take on BC-U, JSU Pres. No-Confidence Vote

Episode Date: January 28, 2023

1.27.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Tyre Nichols bodycam video To Be Released, Stevie Baggs' Take on BC-U, JSU Pres. No-Confidence Vote We are anticipating the release of the bodycam video of Tyre Nichols' arrest by Memphis, Tennessee police.  Memphis, City Council Chair, will join us to talk about how the city is preparing for the aftermath of the video's release.  And a pathology expert will walk us through the injuries Tyre suffered that ultimately killed him. I'll be talking to two more former Bethune-Cookman University alums.  One is a former NFL football player the school brought to speak to the football teams after Ed Reed's dismissal.  He'll tell us what happened in that meeting.  And good old Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is heard encouraging Republicans to participate in corrupt voting practices.  The Department of Justice is clocking several victories with recent convictions of corrupt law enforcement officers and racists who commit hate crimes.  We'll tell you about those cases.  A black Oregon woman wins a million-dollar discrimination lawsuit when a white gas station attendant refuses to pump her gas because she's black.  Support RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ [e-mail] Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Today is Friday, January 27, 2023. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado, right here on the Blackstar Network, folks. When Memphis releases the Tyree Nichols body cam footage, we will have it here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Yes, we are going to show it. We are going to give you a trigger

warning. Of course, they are warning us how despicable it is. It should be released in about an hour and we will have that for you and have analysis from our panel and experts. Also, I'll be talking about Bethune-Cookman with two former Bethune-Cookman alums. One is a former NFL player. The school brought to speak to the football players after Bethune-Cookman with two former Bethune-Cookman alums, one of the former NFL players. The school brought to speak to the football players after Ed Reed's dismissal. He'll tell us exactly what happened in that meeting. And remember, we're going to be in Daytona Beach next week for a community-wide town hall regarding Bethune-Cookman and the issues the students say they are dealing with there.

Plus, we'll also share with you some of the demands students are making to the administration that was released yesterday. Good old Florida Governor Ronald Sanders is encouraging Republicans to participate, folks, in corrupt voting practices. What a shock. The Department of Justice, they're clocking several victories with recent convictions of corrupt law enforcement officers and racists who commit hate crimes. We'll tell you about those.

Also, a black Oregon woman wins a million-dollar discrimination lawsuit when a white gas station attendant refused to pump gas. Also, folks, the Jackson State faculty give their president a vote of no confidence. He responds. And the head coach in Albany State, he's apologizing for offering a scholarship to a white quarterback who lost his scholarship to the University of Florida after he was caught repeating the N-word. We'll share all of that and more. It's time to break the funk. I'm Roland Martin-Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go. It's time to breathe the funk. I'm Roland Mark Dunn-Filcher on the Black Star Network. Let's go.

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Martez! Thank you. The city of Memphis and really America are bracing for the release of the body cam footage of five former black cops killing Tyree Nichols. Folks, he was arrested. Now, the video is going to be released in about an hour. We're going to show you the video as soon as it is released. Those five officers were indicted and arrested on yesterday. Police Chief Cyril Davis and Tyrese family, they are urging the community not to respond with violence and destruction, but to protest peacefully. Now, folks, keep in mind, typically when African-Americans have responded that way is because a cop wasn't charged or indicted or arrested. And so I think people are really

overplaying this whole thing. Former officers to Darius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Desmond Mills Jr., Emmett Martin III, and Justin Smith have been charged with second-degree murder and other charges. Some of the five cops charged with Tyrese murder were part of Memphis' elite crime-fighting unit that is now under scrutiny. Scorpion, which stands for Street Crimes Operations to Restore Peace in Our Neighborhoods, is a 50-person unit launched in October 2021, focused on bringing down crime levels in high-impact areas and focusing on car thefts and gang-related offenses. This is not the first time the Scorpion unit has been hit with controversy. Some community activists say Scorpion's focus on the city's hotspots contributes to officers' bias and brutality.

The police chief has ordered a top-to-bottom review of all specialized police units. Joining me now is Martavius Jones, Memphis City Council Chair, and Amber Sherman of Black Lives Matter Memphis. Glad to have you both. Councilman Jones, I want to start with you. We're talking about a unit here. My understanding, first of all, before I go there, first, have you actually seen the body cam footage? I saw the body cam footage earlier today, Roland.

And how would you describe it? Well, there was a characterization earlier today by our police chief indicating that it was just as bad or worse than Rodney King. Despite the fact that Mr. Nichols died from his injuries that he sustained at the hands of law enforcement, I wouldn't agree with that characterization. Was it brutal? Was it over the top? Was it unnecessary? Do these officers need to pay for their actions? Absolutely.

But I recall, you know, the whole incident of Rodney King is just branded in my head, and it was just minute after minute after minute of their battering this man. It wasn't of that magnitude, but it still was very much unnecessary for somebody who was just pulled over for a traffic offense. Keep in mind that Rodney King survived. Tyree did not survive. The chief also said something here that I think is important, that there was no supervisor on the scene and that Memphis has a problem with not having enough supervisors, sergeants, more experienced officers who could have intervened in what took place. Well, I agree with that assessment and there's an effort right now to increase the number of police officers on the streets here. But what we have to

do, we just can't have officers for the sake of having warm bodies. We need to make sure that the officers that we hire are qualified and they have the temperament to deal with every incident that's going to be thrown at them. The work that they do, it's not for everybody. It takes a person of strong mental character to do so. But we can't afford for people to die at the hands of law enforcement for minor traffic offenses. Amber, you know, President Joe Biden last week when he was meeting with the U.S. Conference of Mayors, he again decried and blasted defund the police. And he said, no, the cops need more funding. And every time these things happen, we hear we need more cops. We need more funding. We need better training. But we keep seeing these

things. Last year, more people were killed by cops than in any other year on record. And we see what took place here. And so obviously more cops and more money is not solving the problem. It's not. No, it's definitely not. And I think that's also what we expect to hear from Biden and other moderates and often just, you know, Democrats who believe that policing is the way out of, you know, the high crime rates that we have. But the same thing goes for our mayor who gave funding after, you know, funding to the police department from COVID funds, but hasn't changed anything. And they've increased these different task force units and adding even more task force units like the

Scorpion unit, but it hasn't done anything but increase the amount of violence that citizens are, you know, experiencing from the hands of police. So we've definitely shown that that's not an option, but they also refuse to fund actual tools that will help deal with the poverty that we're experiencing here. So I think we can see that it's definitely a system of white supremacy and blatant oppression that we can't police ourselves out of, and they don't care about us. So they're not going to do what we actually need anyways. Councilman Jones and Amber Holtite, one second. I'm going to go to a break and we're going to come back and continue the conversation. And then, of course, going to bring my panel as well.

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Hi, I'm B.B. Winans. Hey, I'm Donnie Simpson. What's up? I'm Lance Gross, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. We continue our conversation with Councilman Martavius Jones, as well as Black Lives Matter Memphis leader Amber Sherman. Councilman Jones, the point that we were talking about before we went to the break, which is the issue that people keep saying all over the country. If the answer is more funding, if the answer is more cops, why is Tyrene Nichols dead? That's a good question. And I don't think that the answer

to those questions is more cops, more funding. Roland, before I was on the city council, I served on the school board here in Memphis. And, you know, I used to always hear really conservatives talking about, and we were making the cry, we need more funding for education, we need more funding for education. And the response that I always received was, we just can't throw money at the problem and think it's going to fix itself. Yet, when it comes to policing,

what we need to do, we need to have more money to hire more cops, like that's going to solve the problem. And so my time on the count... I know a lot of cops, and they get going to solve the problem. And so my time on the couch. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

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philosophy. You know, Amber, John Hope Bryan, who's the founder of Operation Hope, is fond of saying you've never seen a riot in a neighborhood where the credit score is 700 or higher. And the reality is in this country, whenever we keep talking about, I saw a councilman earlier on one of the networks talking about the number of murders in Memphis compared to other cities. And I hear people talking about these high crime areas. You're never going to deal with crime in America with policing. Police don't stop crimes. They actually catch folks after the fact. If you don't confront education and economics in Memphis and other places, you're not going to deal with crime. And so what are you and others saying to Memphis city leaders in terms of

how they should be approaching this issue in the coming days, in the coming weeks after this body cam footage is released? I mean, the main thing that we've been saying here for years and are still saying is to invest in us. They know that the police don't keep us safe. And we live in a city that's a food apartheid. Most folks in poor neighborhoods don't even have access to healthy groceries or, you know, just safe living environments. When I think about the pipeline that was almost built in Boxtown in South Memphis that would have even further caused more environmental justice issues for folks and increase, you know, the oil that's in our precious water here, they were just going to quietly do that. And folks weren't, you know, standing up until, you know, the community made noise. When I think about what's happening now with Tyree Nichols, this isn't a first time that someone has brought up the behavior of the scrimping unit. I've been

driving down the street and seeing, you know, four cop cars pulling over one person and terrorizing them and they don't listen to us. So, I mean, at this point, there really isn't much else for us to do but to keep, you know, raising up the issue. But I mean, they've shown time and time again that they just don't care about us. And I think that that's like the biggest thing that we need to bring up from the top down, from the president making complacent statements to our mayor, who wasn't doing anything until I put up on him at an MLK award event, because he'd rather hand out awards than actually be in the streets of people, you know, uplifting Tyree's name, which is where MLK would have been himself.

They're all hiding from, you know, actual transparency. And until we pushed the envelope, they weren't saying anything. Councilman, I often have to remind people when they go back, people love talking about MLK's I Have a Dream speech, but what they don't understand is the actual title was called Normalcy No More. People love talking about the I Have a Dream part, but he spoke about police brutality in that particular speech. So this is not new. In fact, if you go back to nearly every riot that took place in the 60s, nearly every single riot was preceded by police

violence against black people. Nearly every single one, Detroit, Los Angeles, Selma, we could go on and on. So what are you doing and how are you as the council chair? How are you challenging your fellow members to think differently and operate differently after this body camera footage comes out? Well, to fix the problem. Yeah, Roland, I have been on, I've been the lone vote on a number of different issues. And I don't mind being there. You know, I'm going to do, I think that this is almost like a defibrillator to this city. It should shake us. It should wake us out of this state and have more support for more progressive actions. So I don't have a problem forwarding more progressive ideas, and I will continue to do so for the time remaining in my term. But I just hope that, you know, Ms. Sherman and I, we had, I stayed after the meeting on Tuesday.

We had an extended conversation. And I didn't, there's an old saying down here, if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, only the one that's hit will holler. And so as she levied that they, because I know I'm not in that they category, I'm open to having the dialogue and listening to the improvements that we need to make in this community. I'm not sitting here and professing that I have all the answers, but I'm willing to listen and implement some of these recommendations and changes. So what do you need? And that is, are we talking about... I need six votes.

No, no, no. No, no, Father. No, what I'm saying is, are we calling for, are you calling for a citywide town hall? Are you challenging national media to bring their cameras in and begin to press the issue? Look, I mean, this is, look, all these people love, I mean, look, look, this is January 27th. We're just finished celebrating the national anniversary of King's birthday. April 4th is going to be the anniversary of his assassination. And again, folks love talking about these things. And so what about that? What about throwing that gauntlet down saying, again, you want something

that's citywide. You want to see religious leaders. You want to see business leaders, political leaders and applying pressure. And so what do you need, not just from Amber? What do you need from us and others to get you those six votes? Look, attention like this, attention like this. And so that's why every opportunity to talk about this particular issue. And one of the way that I'm painting this, Roland, is that this is not a black on black type of issue. This is a blue on black type of issue. The those that happen to be on the receiving end of this brutality, more often than not, or with these negative outcomes, tend to be people that

look like you and I. But that's at the hands of whites. That's at the hands of blacks as well in this particular instance. So what I'm willing to do, I would love to have you and others to help me host town hall meetings and put the pressure to get some substantive change here in this community. Amber, are you and others looking at galvanizing people and recruiting others to put pressure on business interest in Memphis? I would like to know, where is Fred Smith and FedEx? Where are the Grizzlies? Where are all of these companies doing business there? Because what we know is that business leaders also have a huge impact in forcing political leaders to change.

Yeah, I think that it sets a very important precedent, considering that Tyree did work at FedEx. And although his family has said that his higher-ups have supported the family and sent condolences, Fred Smith definitely has come out and made a statement in support of the demands of the family of disbanding these units that are over-policing our communities. They ultimately took Tyree's life, And there's story after story of folks who have interacted with them. And I definitely think, I mean, people know about that action. So I definitely think that folks pulling up like you and others reaching out and coming to the city

and highlighting what's going on until we get tangible change definitely needs to happen because we've been organizing in the city, the official bill of Memphis chapter, decarcerate for years and continue to be ignored. Decarcerate literally just had a meeting with the city council on December 9th, giving data around traffic stops here

and how they unjustly discriminated against black men and black women at extreme rates. And then just a month later, Tyree is killed. And I can't help, just like we presented at the council and in previous meetings, to mention that we did warn that this would happen, that this continual use of pretextual traffic stops for black folks would lead to murder. Chairman, when is the next city council meeting? The next city council meeting, our meetings normally are the first and the third

Tuesdays of the month. I'm not sure exactly what exact date that's going to fall on. February 7th. Normally, February, okay, February 7th. And then that means that the second one is going to be on February 21st. Got it. Okay. All right. Well, appreciate that. We'll be following up with more because, again, we want to see action. That was action taken by the Louisville City Council after the death of Breonna Taylor was a part of that settlement. And so I'm quite I'm quite sure Ben Crump in his communication to the family that they also want to see some actual changes tied to any potential settlement. And so we'll see what happens there. But we certainly will keep that pressure up as well. Chairman Jones, thank you so very much.

Amber Sherman, thanks a bunch for joining us as well. Folks, thank you very much. When we come back, we're going to pull in our panel, discuss this. We'll continue talking about what's happening at Bethune-Cookman as well. Don't forget, we're going to be in Daytona Beach, Florida next Friday, one week from today, for a community town hall specifically revolving around the issues at Bethune-Cookman. That is taking place, folks, at the Greater Friendship Baptist Church. You see the graphic right there?

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You don't have to be a police union. We all have to just have a soul and a heart. Folks, that was Antonio Romanucci, one of the attorneys for the Tyree Nichols family. This is how Christopher Wray, the FBI director, how he described that body camera footage that's going to be released in less than an hour of the death of the beating of Tyree Nichols. In Memphis is obviously tragic. I have seen the video myself and I will tell you I was appalled. I'm struggling to find a stronger word, but I will just tell you I was appalled. I'm struggling to find a stronger word, but I will just tell you I was appalled. The FBI working with the Justice Department takes great pride in our color of law investigations

and we will pursue, as has already been announced, an investigation here and we'll do it professionally without fear or favor by the book, as I think is expected of us. As far as preparation, all of our field offices have been alerted to work closely with their state and local partners, including in particular, of course, in Memphis in the event. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

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and to the families to whom my heart goes out, that there's a right way and a wrong way in this country to express being upset or angry about something. And we need to make sure that if there is that sentiment expressed here, it's done in the right way. The family had an independent autopsy done on Tyree Nichols. Here to discuss that and those injuries is Dr. Roger Mitchell, Jr., chair and professor of the Howard University Department of Pathology. He was not involved in that independent autopsy. My panel also joining me here, let's welcome Michael Imhotep, host of the African History Network show, Matt Manning, civil rights attorney, and later will be joined by Breonna Cartwright, political strategist. Dr. Mitchell, based upon the

results of the independent autopsy, just explain, walk folks through what it revealed. Yeah, so, you know, the independent autopsy suggested that there was excessive bleeding, but I would proffer that the full autopsy and the independent autopsy is going to reveal what we call in forensic pathology multiple blunt force trauma. Multiple blunt force trauma is fancy terms for bruises, contusions, scrapes, and fractures, and hemorrhage or bleeding. And so anytime that someone sustains blunt force injuries, whether it's from baton strikes, if that's what we end up seeing in the video, or boots or punches, hands and fists, those reveal and end up having blunt force trauma as the reason. And blunt force trauma can lead to someone's death in multiple different ways.

The majority of the time, if blunt force trauma is going to lead to someone's death in multiple different ways. The majority of the time that blunt force trauma is going to lead to someone's death is particularly if it's at the hands of another. If it's an altercation or a fight that leads to death, it's going to be because of a brain injury or hemorrhage on the brain. Terms like subdural or subarachnoid hemorrhage will be terms that we would be looking for in the official autopsy and the second autopsy examination. Matt Manning, when you hear all of that, when you hear these descriptions, it sounds like, I mean, again, this young man was simply beaten and stomped to death by these cops.

It's amazing how fast they moved. But Romanucci said something that is important. It's amazing how quiet the police union is. Yeah, that's exactly right. And it's funny that we would have this conversation today because I was telling a panel I was on earlier today that, you know, in order for the police to retain credibility, particularly where something like this happens, they have to say this is beyond the pale. And for the police unions to come out the way they do, where they think they've got a strong narrative or a strong defense, and to come out and try to assassinate the character of the victim as we customarily see them do, that makes them lose credibility, where they don't come out in a situation like this, where somebody is immediately indicted and arrested and the footage is known to be appalling.

When they don't call that out, then they lose all credibility. And as it relates to Dr. Mitchell and his, you know, discussion of what's in the autopsy, I've seen a million autopsy reports and, you know, the manner of death is likely going to be homicide, but the cause of death being multiple blunt force trauma is particularly impactful for people when they consider that that means this person had a sustained beating, right? Rather than one major injury, it means that at the hands of these five officers, this person was just beaten, beaten, beaten incessantly. And that's important because that shows this is not a matter of just officers making a split second decision, as we often hear them say. This was a concerted and continued effort to cause harm, which ultimately took his life. So I think this video is going to

corroborate that, and I think that it's important for people to realize that you're talking about the furthest end of the spectrum. I find it interesting, Michael, how all of these police departments nationwide are all of a sudden on alert. Capitol Hill police, all 4,000 officers in Washington, D.C., departments all across the country. President Biden issues a statement yesterday saying, please, no violence, no violence. Well, first of all, let's just be real clear. When black folks previously reacted that way, it was because the cop wasn't the cop or cops weren't indicted. They weren't charged. They weren't arrested. And so this is different. But but it's interesting how all these people are rushing right to.

Hey, hey, hey, no violence. Why the hell don't y'all tell the cops that? Yeah, you know, that's something I was going to say, Roland. There has already been violence. There was violence inflicted upon the body of Tyree Nichols to the point that he laid in the hospital for three days. And if I'm correct from the pictures that I saw, it looked like he had a breathing tube in his mouth. He ended up dying from the alleged beating I saw looked like he had a breathing tube in his mouth. He ended up dying from the alleged beating that he suffered. So the first thing that they should do is to tell the police officers, don't beat the hell out of people and kill them. That's the first thing that they should do. There's already been violence. Secondly, I think probably the majority of the protests will be nonviolent protests.

Now, nonviolent doesn't mean quiet. You can be nonviolent and be loud at the same time, because I find it interesting when people say peaceful protest. No, you can raise hell, but just be nonviolent, okay? Thirdly, I was reading some articles today from NBC News dealing with this in a press conference, et cetera, and they said as of Thursday, the local police union there in Memphis has had no comment, okay? So you know the video must be bad for them to have no comment because if there was something exculpatory in the video that would give reason for the police

to beat the hell out of Tyree like that, you know the police union would have said that because the police pay for the police union. So it must be really bad for them to have no comment. And on a national, nationally, when we look at the Fraternal Order of Police and the International

Associations of Police Chiefs, I think there should be a renewed effort to put pressure on them to come out and support once again the George Floyd justice of policing that because they supported it uh when it passed the house and when it was in negotiations in the senate they these would do these two police unions supported that deal so this is an opportunity I think it's going to be crazy with this crazy QAnon conspiracy theory coup plotters running the house.

Gotcha. But I think this is an opportunity here also. Yeah. Dr. Mitchell, whenever these things happen, the family will do their own independent autopsy because frankly, in many cases, they don't trust the medical examiner. We've seen places where the ME have as aligned with versions coming from police. And really just what I think just really just this thing yells. It just yells what this autopsy revealed. And once we get the official one as well, just the sheer brutality of how five cops treated this young man.

But not just that. People got to remember, they fired two fire department officials that treated him as well. So it wasn't just them beating. It was the shoddy care he receives after the beating. Had he gotten proper care, he might be alive. How many of these, Roland, do we not know about? How many of these types of cases are happening on a daily, a weekly, a monthly basis in our communities across the country that are not getting this type of exposure? And the reality of it is that it's happening all of the time. And right now,

we know, I'm the Speaker of the House of the National Medical Association, oldest, largest black group of physicians. And we know that currently the federal government and local governments are not, not counting the amount of people that are dying in the custody of law enforcement, whether being beaten to death like we're seeing with Tyree Nichols or dying from natural disease or suicide by shoddy work that's happening in our carceral system, health care that's in our carceral system. So it is telling that EMS is being held responsible. There are not many cases that I've been involved in, and I've been a forensic pathologist for over 15 years. I was the chief medical examiner for Washington, D.C., and there are not many cases

where the EMS, the emergency medical services personnel, have been held accountable for their work in not providing care. I think it's unprecedented. And I think that it, I think what we're dealing with here when this video comes out is really a current Emmett Till moment. You know, George Floyd was that watershed. And I think we're dealing with another opportunity for us to develop stronger policies in our communities that hold law enforcement accountable, but also we need to be counting the amount of people that are dying, deaths in custody.

And right now, it's not just the Department of Justice or the law enforcement organizations that should be held accountable here. It's our public health infrastructure. It also should be held accountable here. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Dr. Mitchell, we appreciate you joining us. Thank you so very much. No, it's my pleasure.

All right, folks, we come back more on this. Also, Bethune Cookman, as folks continue to speak out on student demands there. Hey, folks, if you're watching on YouTube, hit the like button. Also, we're only 1,288 subscribers shy of hitting 1 million on YouTube. So a bunch of y'all watching right now, if you ain't subscribed, hit the subscribe button so we can hit a million doing this show. Don't be riding for free. Hit the subscription button. I'll be right back. Wealthy, focuses on the things that your financial advisor and bank isn't telling you, but you absolutely need

to know. So watch Get Wealthy on the Blackstar Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. You will not replace us. White people are losing their damn lives. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.

We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. There's all the Proud Boys, guys.

This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.

Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. All right, folks. Welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. Students at Bethune-Cookman have released a series of demands they want met by the university. First, one of the things on there is that they want to be involved in the search process for a new president. Folks, if we have those demands, you can pull them up, please. Students have been meeting on the campus. And you got to remember, you got your students who are protesting in the meeting, but you also, we should have it. I gave it to you guys earlier. So if y'all can pull it up, please, it'd be great. What you have is you have students who are making

demands when it comes to dormitories, when it comes to safety and things along those lines. That's first. That's happening there on campus. But you still have football players. They would like to see Ed Reed return as a head coach. And the president has said that is not going to happen, but that does not stop those football players from demanding that. Patrick Robinson is a graduate of Bethune-Cookman. He joins us now. He participated in a meeting that took place the other day between former players and current players. Patrick, we had one of the quarterback on yesterday who talked about he came there because of Ed Reed. And he's describing,

he said, look, I'm sleeping in a dorm room. The air doesn't work. I'm sweating like crazy. He talked about other just awful conditions. I've had parents emailing me saying how their children, they've had, you know, the locks not working on their room and dealing with, you know, urine on the bathroom floor and shower heads not working and on and on and on. And we've heard university officials talk about the impact when it came to the hurricane that hit them as well. On the flip side, you know, Bethune-Cookman between the federal government and the state got, you know, about 75 or 80 million dollars in the past two or three years as well. And so what I keep saying is people have to stop acting like

what these students are saying is no big deal. They are the constituents. What they say they are dealing with matters. Correct. I can only speak on as far as going back to when I was there. I feel like a big part of the problem

that the school had from what my understanding was the transition when we went from a university from a college and the biggest problem that we had was a lot of the funding went allocated to trying to make those programs, but they forgot about the students. And that became a big problem for us. And as I saw, we lost a lot of transition of leadership. Since I've left, I believe there's maybe five, six presidents that interim presidents. And at the time I was there,

we didn't really have as much fluctuality with that. But then when they say that weather is an issue and that's the excuse why the campus is horrible, there's been plans in store since I was there, before I was there,

since Mary was there with the five kids. I've seen the campus in worse conditions. And I believe a lot of my friends and alumni, I've seen them cleaning up and other Greek organizations were on campus cleaning that campus up and had it back ready within two weeks. So as far as that, I believe it's a lot of lack of leadership. And they forgot about the students and started focusing on how to benefit the school,

not the actual students anymore, because a lot of the students tend to move off campus anyway after the first semester because of the lack, the sorry conditions at the school. I literally just got a text message from one of the football players who said, mold on the bread. They just serve at dinner. Can't make this up, Mr. Martin.

It literally came in in the last 60 seconds. They just serve. And for better or worse, campus dining wasn't what it was now as far as my business in school, but it was atrocious. And there's lack of, you know, options for students around in the neighborhood. I see they did go with other catering companies to come in and start opening up shops and other options, but it's very limited for what kind of money that school receives to put and invest into the students. It's a shame that it's gotten like this, but I'm talking down with former presidents years ago,

and that's why I went to the school. Dr. Reed was one of them, and Mr. Brunson was one of them. And both of them had the idea of keeping that school how Mary wanted it. We enter the learning, depart the serving. It's now becoming despicable to see it becoming more about let's collect the money, but let's not take care of the students. And that's why I had to get on the show to speak for the students that haven't been there right now, but the ones who were there when the transition of this nonsense started, because it wasn't that bad, Roland. So you talk about speaking for those students. So

the question now, and again, the president met with the players along with A.D. Reggie Theus. They say they had invited me to the campus, but then they were nigging on that saying their focus is just on the students there. We wanted to visit the campus. He invited me. Then, of course, they changed their mind. So the thing that really jumps out, what is next? What are you, what are other former football players, what are you alumni, what are you saying to this administration, but saying also to this board of directors, this board of trustees, what you want is, I believe the students do want to get more involved in who's being selected as the president, the next president, and the search of the president, and being more

involved in those activities, because it seems to me that there's no connection with faculty, the higher-ups I'm speaking of, trustees, the board, the presidents, and the students anymore. We make the decision. This is how it's going to be. We're going to keep raising tuition, and y'all going to keep getting crumbs. That's what I'm seeing now. And I think that alumni and current students, we need to keep on speaking our minds, because

I remember there were a lot of issues back in my time when we did have issues bringing up, you know, certain smaller issues. But SGA would fight for stuff, students, organizations from Greeks to the cultural organizations. They would fight for whatever they needed to do. They would talk. And I believe that it's becoming harder from what I'm hearing from the current students to reach out to the staff when, as I was there, I remember you can walk into the president's office and pretty much, you know, request to speak, and they would actually make time. Now it seems like you're really trying to get to the president of the United States and you need, you know, G certified clearance.

All right, Patrick Robinson, we appreciate you joining us from New York. Thanks a lot. Thank you, sir. Michael, Matt, you know, what's interesting here, I've had, again, so many people mad and upset at me talking about our coverage has been horrendous. How dare you? Oh, you're an outsider. You're not one of us. You're not an HBCU. I'm sitting there going, I don't give a damn about none of that.

What I care about is how are you providing for the students, faculty, staff, administration? That's what it boils down to. And I think what we have to do, Matt, we have to be willing as black folks to accept the heat when stuff ain't going right. And then when stuff is happening, also properly praise. Yes, you're exactly right. I think we're, you know, called to do that, to be accountable, right? I mean, we can't hold other people accountable and shirk it when it comes to us. And it's not comfortable, don't get me wrong, but we have to do it. And I think you said something earlier, Roland, that I have not heard enough that I

thought was really brilliant, is calling the students the constituents. What we see a lot of times in these circumstances is we see a tenor, this idea that because they're, you know, generally in early 20s, not supporting themselves with families in a lot of circumstances, in most circumstances, they are kind of quasi-adults, not actual adults who pay an extraordinary amount of money to get an education and who, by virtue of that, you know, deserve quality in their accommodations, quality in their education, a say in who leads their university. And I like that you termed it as constituents because that's what they are. And even in my time at Howard, we protested for, you know, some of the same reasons, unfortunately. And the response was always like, you don't really have

the right to complain about things or you guys are entitled or whatever the response was. But it was never rooted in the idea that, yeah, you pay a boatload of money to go here and you should be able to complain about the condition. So I do think it's important to shine a light on that, even at the risk of ridicule, to say, look, we got to hold you accountable, too, particularly if we're providing to us. We can't give ourselves bad conditions. So I'm glad the students are standing up, and I hope that their demands are heard and heeded. And I especially like that they're demanding to be involved in the selection of their next president, because hopefully that creates a synergy between the administration and the

students who are the constituents of said administration. I got about one minute here, Michael. The thing here is if it wasn't for all this media attention, if it wasn't for Ed Reed's outbursts and the subsequent media attention, this stuff would not be addressed. Those students' concerns would be falling on deaf ears. Well, not only that, Roland. Number one, you're a journalist. Number two, you don't have to be from a certain

school. You don't have to be from a certain community to actually cover the story. This is what black media does. This is what you do. You brought on students. You brought on Ed Reid. You brought on the acting president, Bethune-Cookman as well. That's responsible journalism,

especially African-American journalism and African-American media. This is what we do. So, you know, and I would challenge people to compare the views that you get on social media, especially YouTube, for this story. Compare that to what other media outlets get covering this story as well. Yours is probably right at the top, if not at the top. So this is why people should support the Black Star Media Network. Don't just share the video. You actually have to support this because without financial support, things like this don't.

I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company

dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Coverage like this does not happen.

Folks, we are going to be in Daytona Beach next week. Pull the graphic up, folks. We're going to be there with our community forum, hearing directly from those students, alumni, faculty, staff, you name it. We're going to be at Greater Friendship Baptist Church, 539 George W. Ingram Boulevard. Doors open at 5 p.m. We'll be live from 6 to 8 p.m. Eastern. So please come on out. We want to pack the house, pack the house in a huge way.

And so because we want to hear the concerns and, again, help folk get what they need. Coming up next, we'll talk to one of the former football players who was in that meeting with the president. Also, we'll tell you about a vote of no confidence for the president of Jackson State. And the head coach at Albany State is apologizing profusely for granting a scholarship to a white athlete who lost his scholarship at the University of Florida for using the N-word. I'll tell you about those two stories as well next on Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Again, folks, support us in what we do.

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and get that under control so that you can do well. That's right here on Get Wealthy, only on Blackstar Network. It's another HBCU News, at Jackson State University, the Faculty Senate. They have given a vote of no confidence to President Thomas Hudson. According to the Clarion Ledger, the Faculty Senate voted to bring concerns to the community campus and stakeholders. At last night's meeting, Faculty Senate President Dr. Don Bishop McLean said the faculty senate noted, quote, these university leaders, including Hudson, have exhibited a continuous pattern of failing to respect shared governance, transparency, accountability, and have worked outside

of professional norms that have brought implications. Hudson responded to that vote with a series of tweets. He said the faculty senate has voiced concerns over research, campus safety, and curriculum changes, areas my administration has prioritized. The senate's role is to express concerns through various means, including votes, votes, no confidence, which are not to be taken lightly or personally. A better JSU is a shared goal we are all working towards. My administration has been one that tackles serious, long-term issues head head on and that will continue through hard work, collaboration, and a shared vision. I'm grateful for the work of all Jacksonians that has helped JSU continue to thrive as a world-class high research institution despite multiple obstacles.

Let's continue to work together to elevate JSU. Hashtag JSU elevate. Mississippi institutions of higher learning will likely investigate the claims of the faculty Senate. All right, folks, at Albany State drama there. You might have seen the story where a white high school quarterback who lost his scholarship at the University of Florida for using the N word was offered a scholarship at the HBCU Albany state. That did not sit well with the Albany state community folks, the head coach. He has issued a profuse apology to all of them. I'm going to read this here, folks.

If y'all can pull it up, please. This is a statement that was released by Albany State on social media by Quinn Gray Sr., the head football coach of the Albany State Golden Rams football team. In this particular statement, he says, let me start with a humble apology, an apology for not honoring the tradition and history of ASU and for letting many of you down. He said, I didn't uphold ASU and for letting many of you down. He said, I didn't uphold the Ramley standard that I know you expect. Please know that my decision to speak with a student that did not meet your expectations was unacceptable. I only wanted the best for our team, athletes, and institution when I invited the student to visit ASU. As I say to

our players, there's a consequence to every action. The consequences of my actions brought pain to our university. I was trying to help a student get back in competition, and in my haste, I did not consider the impact the decision would have on all of you. Frankly, it wasn't my place to use ASU as a platform for redemption in this case. I regret that I used flawed judgment. If given the opportunity, I will do better. ASU expects excellence. The president has made it clear that my actions did not meet that standard. It was never my intention to misrepresent what ASU stands for, nor to ignore the rich

history of this institution. I am fully committed to the university's mission of supporting academic excellence and student success. Being accepted into the Rambley is something that you have to learn. The Rambley embodies the spirit, authenticity, and love forged from the toll of giants before me. My actions cause you to question my commitment to our institution and our ancestors. As the consequences go, I hope to find a way back into the rambling.

Without a doubt, I will be all in. Go Rams. That was head football coach Quinn Gray Sr. Now, he was a coach at Memphis, and they were recruiting this particular player, and that's where they actually formed a relationship. Real quick, I'm going to do a quick round of comments from my panel. Breonna Cartwright joins us. I must say, Michael, that head coach realizes, dang, I effed up.

Yeah, I think he did. And, you know, the whole thing to me is really deplorable, Roland. As somebody that doesn't use the N-word, as somebody, and I'm black, in case people don't know it, as somebody that doesn't use the N-word, and I'm black, in case people don't know it, as somebody that doesn't use the N-word and think that nobody should use it, especially in music, but then to offer a scholarship as well because he

wanted to give this quarterback a chance or a second chance or something like that. It's just wrong all the way around to me. Matt, I thought something like that it's just it's just wrong all the way around to me uh matt i thought that apology was bs he chose up what he thought i guess is that people wouldn't do their homework and find out what this kid was expelled from the or you know let go from the other school for but this is stupid and i thought a lot of the apology was just platitudes i mean you know what time it is you don't put this person on your team. You don't give them a scholarship, especially irrespective of any relationship that you have.

And I do think, you know, using the terminology, I should not have used this school as the place for redemption is right. I don't think you should be using an HBCU to redeem a racist. Brianna? Matt said everything that needs to be said. Honestly, they thought they would get away with it. They're used to getting away with things. They know that words should not be used. And until we push back, they're going to keep on trying.

And always their apologies are fake. They knew better when they said it. Folks, I was supposed to right now be interviewing one of the Bethune-Cookman players, but the body cam footage out of Memphis has been released to our control room. You need to go to the City of Memphis' Vimeo page. That's where the video is right now. This is breaking news. And again, so let me do a reset of this breaking news, folks. Tyree Nichols was stopped, arrested, and beaten by five Memphis police officers a couple of weeks

ago. He spent three days in the hospital, eventually dying of his injuries. Those five police officers, all African-American, were fired by the city of Memphis. What then happened was they were then indicted on yesterday. All five have been arrested. The city of Memphis announced that the body cam footage was going to be released after 7 p.m. Eastern. The video has been released. So control room, let me know when y'all have it. So let me brace people. OK, so there are a lot of people out there. There are a lot of folks who said, hey, they don't want to see it. They don't want it to be shown. They don't want to watch it. I totally understand. But we cover news. This is what we do.

And so we are going we're going to show that video in order to have the proper context and understanding. And so I'm giving you ample, ample time here and ample warning before we actually show that video. We have heard the description from city officials, from the FBI director, from defense attorneys, from the family. We've heard it from the White House as well, how horrific this video is. And so we want to, again, properly brace you for it to the control room. Let me know when y'all have it. Again, I've seen some notes here that the video's on Memphis' Vimeo page, so please take a look at that. You also have one second, because again, I've got information coming in, tweets and text messages that are coming in as well from the city of Memphis.

While you're looking for that, let me do this here. Let's play the video of his mother, Tyree's mother, speaking about his last words. The video captured. Okay. All right. So, okay. So I'm not going to pull that video up. And so, uh,

again, the mayor has released a statement. You go to their, uh, the city's page, you see all of these different statements that coming from various officials, uh, talking about, uh, this here. And so we're going to show that in a second. Um, I want to go to Brianna, Brianna, uh, while we're queuing it up, we're queuing the video up. There are some people who say, look, do not show it. We've had enough black, violent porn. We shouldn't do it. And I totally understand that. But as a media organization, I have to remind people over and over and over again that if Mamie Till Mobley had not left open the casket of Emmett Till, I don't believe America and the civil rights movement would have been the same.

And I think, and I get it, today is, I think, was it today or yesterday? Today is National Holocaust Remembrance Day. There's a reason why they say never forget and never again. There's a reason why you see so many Holocaust movies. There's a reason why you see those old film reels because they wanted it seared into the minds of every person on this earth. What happened to Jews in Germany? I think the reason the reaction to George Floyd's death was what it was, was because America saw with their own eyes and they had to watch as life was taken out of this man's body in about nine minutes.

And so I get people who say we shouldn't. But as a person of the media, the reality is we can't we cannot let these people go. It probably wasn't that bad. No, they have to be confronted with the brutality that continues to exist. Your thoughts? Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think that the power of the camera has created incremental change in our civil rights movement. We saw drastic changes once we could film the marches at all.

And then we saw color and we could see the blood. I know that we don't like to see it and we're seeing it over and over and over again. And it's very painful. But I do think that it needs to be seen. I think using trigger words and allowing for time and people deciding, especially people within the community who already know the issue, who's already feeling it, who's already had experiences, which actually brings further trauma. It allows for them to retreat back. But I think promulgating it forward is always necessary in order for change to occur. Control Room, how long is the video? Okay. All right, folks. Uh, we are right now about to show, uh, the video, uh, of the, of the brutal, the brutal beating of Tyree Nichols. Uh, if you do not want to watch, please turn away right now and we will show it.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.

I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hello? Yes. Yep. Oh, yeah, that's me. I'm trying to figure out right now, actually.

I'll let you know. Okay. Okay. All right. We're going to pull out of this. Now we're going to show you the beginning, the beginning of what took place with these cops and Tyree Nichols. Let's now play that. All right, we're pulling that up right now.

So, again, this is, here we go. Oh.. You don't do that, okay? Get on the fucking ground! Get on the ground! I think you tased your ass! Tase it! Tase it! All right, I'm on the ground. Lay down! Lay down! Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Please sit down. On the ground! I think you tased you!

Get on the ground! I know. One, now! All right, okay. All right, all right. Break your shit. Okay, dude, dang. Turn the fuck around. Put your fucking hands on the plate! Bitch, okay! Alright, alright! Turn your bitch ass back on and break your shit! Okay, dude, dang! Turn the fuck around!

Put your fucking hands behind your back! Bitch, put your hands behind your back! Okay, stop! I'ma knock your ass the fuck out! Okay, you guys are really doing a lot right now! Bro, lay down! I'm just trying to go home! Lay down!

Man, if you don't lay down... I am on the ground! Put your hands on your stomach! I am! I got it! I got it! I got it! I got it!

I got it! Okay, okay. Put the fuck back! Stop! I'm not doing it! Save me! Freeze! Oh shit! 2938 where it rains and Ross Taser was deployed.

Suspect is running down Ross. Taser was deployed. Suspect is running down Ross. Young male, black, slim build, blue jeans and a hoodie Saddle fan on Ross when we last saw him What's up? I got you Alright, hang on, hang on. Ready? On the route. Alright, just straight.

One of the prongs hit the bastard. Alright, your car is right in front of you. This is my car, grab my water. Alright, hang on. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you.

I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you.

I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. I'm gonna go right in front of you. This is my car. Grab my water. All right, hang on. Where's your water? I can't see shit. Okay, I got you. I'm not going to get you that last one. Get my water.

I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you.

I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm going to get you that last one. All right, I got you. I'm,. You got my line? Yeah, right here. Negative 2938. Where are my damn glasses at? Up here. Huh?

OK, sit up. Good morning. OK, I'm going to get you a drink. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK.

OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK.

OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break.

I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. I'm going to get a little bit of a break. We're going to go down there and pull the wall. Negative. Not a good sign.

Left eye again? Yeah. I can't see jack shit. My glasses wouldn't even fight me. I hear a new dog. He glasses when he was fighting me... . . Negative, we just saw him running down Ross.

. . Yeah. . . .. I'm in the 20 area, you should be. 29.3, if I have to go back to the, uh, Cool Gays or what's the toilet's worth? Okay, 29.01. Okay. I'm just a tourist, where? Train 2901

What's up? Right eye Alright, you ready? Yeah Where? Right eye Alright, I... Which way you wrong? That way. Okay, I gotta find my glasses and get this damn taser downloaded.

Wait, what? 2931, can't call you and start an MMP this way? Chemical agent, full. I'm on the second over here. Checkpoint, thanks. Put me in the tube box. Put me in the tube box. All right, folks. So there are four different videos.

We're going to put me in a tube box. We're going to have that video going. So what we're doing is we're looking at, there are four different videos, four different body cam videos. You see that one there. So we're looking for the other video to show you when they when they when they tracked down Tyree Nichols. You saw the previous video when they pulled over. They were yelling at him to get down.

Then you see him take off. You see them fire the tasers at him. And then the cops then begin to pursue him. Carol, let me know when we have discovered that video there as well. I want to go to bringing my panel real quick while we're pulling the video up. So, again, folks, these things are happening. Look, we don't have the same size team as CNN, MSNBC. We don't have, you know, 100 people being able to pour over this stuff.

So we got one person who's going over it. Matt, you saw that first one. You saw where you heard him say, guys, chill, chill. You know, I'm getting down. You heard him saying, hey, why are you pulling me over? And you had these cops just their voices and how they escalated versus de-escalating based upon what he was saying. And that is what's going to cook them at trial in their murder trial. Because I don't know how Tennessee works, but in most states, you have to prove a mental state, right? And it is clear that

you intend to cause harm if you tell them, I'm going to break your shit, right? I mean, that's what the cop literally told him. He pulled, he said, man, I'm going to break it. Put your arm behind your back. I'm going to break it, right? And he just kept cursing at them and yelling at them. I mean, the audio is horrendous. And unfortunately, it is not a one-off. This is how cops very often attack people all the time. I see videos like this all the time. It's absurd how many videos I've seen like this. And if you look at the video that you showed first, where they're on the corner of the street there, that officer reared his leg back two or three times and kicked him directly in the head. So when this gets prosecuted, this is going to be one of the rare cases where people aren't trying to connect dots.

The dots are there for him. I mean, they're very obviously trying to cause him harm. And it's from malice, a place of malice and evil. It's not from any other reason. So I think they're going to have an easy case to prosecute criminally with what I've seen already, knowing that he died of his injuries. Michael, that first video we showed, and folks, again, let me know we had that next video queued up. The first video we showed was from one of the neighborhood cameras. Now, the cities have these cameras, these high crime areas. So that camera is supposed to record

activity in high crime areas. It ended up recording the crime of the cops viciously beating Tyree Nichols. Yeah, it recorded the crime all right. Let me just say a couple of things here quickly. A few minutes ago, I'm watching the show, your show, Roland. Actually, Michael, hold on one second. Hold on one second. So we do have the next video queued up. Go ahead and play it. Prior to the hearing, you did not have to. It has been five years since retired.

A lot of great memories. Seeing kids do it makes it even better, especially in this day and age. Being out on the water is fun. So you see it right here. Do we have the audio of this? Turn it up. Okay, so there's no audio on this. So this is when they were pursuing Tyree, when they tracked Tyree down, correct? All right, folks, now you're about to see what happens. Mom! Give me your hand!

Mom! Give me your hand! Give me your hand! Give me your hand, bro. Give me your hand. Watch out. Give me your hand, bro. All right. Give me your hand, bro.

Give me your hand, bro. Two box, leave the audio up. Give me your fucking hand, bro. Nichols yelled for his mother. He is not far from the home. Michael Imhotep, the reason we're seeing a black screen here, because obviously the body cam of one of those officers came off and got turned over here. But his mother, in interviews, talked about hearing her son cry out for him.

He was not far from home. Bring the audio down some, Michael, your reaction. Again, we saw the early part. Clearly, the body cam came off the police officer, and that's why we're seeing this right here. We'll see if it comes back. But, Michael, go ahead. Yeah, Roland, I've been watching different views of this on different devices. But let me just say something.

Watch the show right now on Facebook. A few minutes ago, you had 349 viewers. And I just want everybody to know we deal with important topics every day. So watch this show every day, please, number one. Number two, when you saw the video of them encountering him the first time, when you are surrounded by people and they're giving you different commands, that can be confusing. One officer is telling him to turn over. He didn't say which way.

The other talk is saying he's going to break his arm. He's already on the ground. You want me to turn over my back? You want me to turn over my stomach? What have you. So you're surrounded by people yelling, screaming at you, cussing at you, things like this. That's confusing. But third, I watched the interview that was done with Sarah Lynn Davis, the police chief, Memphis police chief today.

And she said they reviewed numerous cameras, numerous video from different cameras, different angles, things like this. She said they still have not been able to substantiate why he was pulled over in the first place. The officers that pulled him over said it was for a traffic stop. She said after reviewing all the video cameras, different angles, different cameras, etc., they still cannot substantiate why he was pulled over in the first place. So, this is another example, and unfortunately, these are all African-American

police officers, phenotypically, maybe not in thought, but phenotypically. This is another example why everybody should not be police officers. Hopefully hopefully that, you know, they they are convicted and prosecute, you know, get the longest sentence because this is just inhumane the way they're treating him. Carol, let me know if we have the again, this is this is another body cam footage here. Pull the audio up please. So we can hear what happened. Man, he turned around. He fit in with the taser. I swear he took, he snatched the motherfuckers out

and took out a run. Hell yeah. Fuck, man. Yeah, I'm straight. Fuck, that shit hit me in the mouth. I'm straight, I'm straight. I ain't talking about him straight like that. I'm talking about not edging that. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm straight. I'm straight. I'm straight. I'm straight. Yeah. I'm straight. Yeah. I'm straight. I ain't talking about it straight like that. I'm talking about it not edgy like that.

Yeah, I'm good. Oh, fuck. That's my first time to be in here. Hey. Hey. You see that one? Man, he's been. That shit out, man.

What? Come on, son. Y'all want me to bring him down there? Man, I'm not bringing dudes. Man, hell no. Bring him down here, dude. Bring him down there. For real, though.

Fuck this. Fuck off, man. Fuck off. My mama. Bro, my eyes, I got scars. Bring him down there. For real though. What the fuck this? What the fuck bro? What's up man? Mind my mother fucker. Bro, my eyes. I got scared too. Oh, yeah, my shit's burning. I just re-opened my shit back up bro. What?

My leg bro, my knee. Oh, shit. Bro, I see him. I see him. So you opened the door? I see him wiping his face. I don't know why he took off running down the fucking street. Hey, he opened the door? I see him wiping his face. Hey, he took off running soon. I seen him wiping his face, bro.

Hold on, where y'all see him? Right here. He was running through the yard, bro. This is where I got him. I said, hey. I couldn't see no more. Boy, you said that. We went through there.

Yeah. Y'all said bald head, though. I was like, yeah. But then he started running, bro. He was wiping his face. I said, he wiping his face. So that's him. Yeah, that's him.

Where y'all see him? Boy, you can't write on time, boy. I know. I see y he wiped his face. So that's it? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. You can't ride on time, boy. I know. I see you all. I see you. You just had to run. You can't ride on time. We still got tickets to the Grand.

I was like, fuck my leg, bro. I know I'm for the finish. Bro, my shit been hurting all day. But when I seen that boy running, bro, that motherfucker ain't start hurting no more, bro. Yes, bro. Bro. That motherfucker hot.

He hot. He hot as a mug. He hot as's on. I'm talking to you. That motherfucker over here. That motherfucker high. He high. He high as a mug. Hey, sit up, bro. Bro. Sit up, man. There ain't no head that's screaming.

Where the fuck room my radio, bro? Shit. I sit off the channel like a motherfucker. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here.

I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I don't know. Where the fuck is my radio, bro? Shit. I should have off the channel like a motherfucker. I'm out of here. Motherfucker.

Shit, I heard they going up. I heard they going up. I see a bean tractor right here. I ain't want nothing like that. I ain't want nothing like that. Where my light go, bro? He got me. He got me high as a kite.

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The footage that we just showed you, you heard them talking about it. You heard them going on and on about him taking off. Then you hear them saying, oh, he tried to grab so-and-so's gun. I mean, look, this is, I mean, they are waylaying this man. That's what they are doing. What they are doing is unbelievable. And it's five of them. Look at them, punching in his chest, just punching in his face, rearing back. You see him now just collapsing now to the ground. Three of them have got him in handcuffs. Three of them got him in handcuffs, and they're still.

He's screaming and fighting for his life. Now they're laying on top of him. Are you trying to tell me that five cops can't properly subdue a man? And again, still laying on top of him. Two more cops now him in the head. One cop steps up, just grabs his ankles. More cops arrive on the scene. Now they all step away and you see them bent over.

They chased him. They're all tired. They're exhausted. Nichols is lying on the ground. Moving his body. No attention whatsoever flashing lights in his face no one is picking him up to put him in a patrol car.

No one is lifting him up. Now they're attempting to sit him up. EMTs have yet to arrive. Now they're dragging him to the car. And sitting him up against the car. And again, you see all these officers out of shape, bending over, complaining about their knee being injured. And this just goes on and on and on.

We're going to talk over this video because the reason being, folks, and again, do I want to show all of it? I do not. But you're seeing the lack of care given to him. And I want to see how long it takes for the paramedics to arrive. Brianna, just your thoughts on what we've seen. Absolutely. Or seen. Right. It's apparent that there was intentionality, as Matt said, when the officers, I think there was four officers who or two officers at least who had his hands behind him.

There were officers punching him in the face when he could not do anything back. And then it goes on and on. And when we heard the sound from the body camera, they kept on putting him up and said he's high as a kite. When we saw the original video, we can tell that he was speaking clearly and crisp, that he didn't know what was going on, that he exited the car. And as we've stated, they don't know the reason why. They said it was just a regular traffic stop why it was stopped um and so with all that for them after they just beat this man five men beat one man and he's he's having issues staying up and and his body laying him on the ground and the body they still didn't

think anything of it and so uh i think you know we see see a lot of this happen over and over again. And unfortunately, it usually is race-based in the sense of it's a white person against a black person. And so maybe they thought they could get away with this type of abuse because this is omitted under evidence in a court, that any jury can find this as appropriate behavior. Michael. Yeah, Roland, you know, in the interview that I saw today, it was an extensive interview that was done with Police Chief Cerulean Davis. She said all of her officers are trained in first aid, yet it appears that none of them rendered first aid to Tyree Nichols. He's handcuffed. He's against a car.

No, man, no. I mean, like the video is still playing. I mean, man, no. I mean, like the video is still, the video is still, the video is still playing. I mean, look at it. He is literally sitting up against the car. It's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven cops. I can count nobody offering any aid. Exactly. Exactly. And when you are detained by police, uh, regardless of which state, regardless of which municipality, regardless of what you've done, they are responsible for your care. They are responsible for your protection, your well-being. And we see here that they had no regard, it appears, for his humanity, for his life. So hopefully every last one of them are convicted and they should pray that the prisoners in prison have more mercy on them than they had on Tyree Nichols.

Matt, we're seeing here, it looks looks like at this point EMT has arrived. That's what it appears. Now, keep in mind, Matt, to to EMT personnel, they were fired, not just the five cops, but two fire department personnel were also fired. So it appears that that's who is on the scene right now. Matt, go ahead. I'm sick. I'm sick, Roland, because it's just, I mean, it's appalling. Despite the fact that I do this for a living, this is just abhorrent. And there are a couple of things I wanted to point out. The first thing is, I think more than five cops are going to lose their jobs for sure. I think the Department of Justice is going to bring federal civil rights charges probably against all of those cops standing there, because not only did most of them attack him, but none of them helped. They're just standing around laughing and joking. This guy's fighting for his life.

I think there's going to be subsequent charges. And I think what we might see is if in the state of Tennessee you can have a jury trial on punishment like you can in the state of Texas. I bet a lot of these officers are just going to plead guilty and try to go straight to punishment to try to mitigate, you know, what could happen in the guilt and innocence phase. But the problem that they have here, I mean, one guy went to his car and got a baton and came out with the sole purpose of beating this guy up. He wasn't there trying to subdue him. He was just taking swings like it was a baseball bat. And they're going to have, I mean, serious problems on their hands. If I were the DA in this case, I wouldn't let them make a plea deal. I would make no plea deals on this case. I would go to the jury and say, you need to tell the community what you think

this is worth. And if this is, I guess, a second degree in Tennessee, I don't know, 15 to 60 years, my money would be on a jury giving them all the absolute max. I don't think there's any way that there's anything that mitigates this, particularly because Mr. Nichols was subdued the entire time. And he was just literally trying to stand up. Normally what you see is they say they were fighting back, they were using force, whatever. He was trying to stand up, and they were taking haymakers to his head. So none of this is defensible at all, and I just don't see how more officers don't get fired in the wake of this. I think they're going to all go to prison for a good long time.

And it's going to be just like George Floyd insofar as there are going to be some who will be prosecuted for not stepping in. And then the feds should, in their investigation, charge all of them, and they're going to have federal and state charges. I don't see how you get out of that in this case. And the other thing is, very quickly, Roland, if you look at the position of the police cars and the fact that they didn't consider that overhead camera, look at where their dash cams are pointing. That is purposeful. That's because when they found him, they didn't want it to be recorded, right? Because this kind of thing happens all the time. They were wearing body cams. Obviously, I don't know why they were stupid enough to do this on body cam, but I think that's

a purposeful thing. And if I'm a prosecutor, I show that that's even more circumstantial evidence that they were angry that Mr. Nichols evaded their first contact with him, and they took out their anger by beating him senselessly. And you see here, so here you have a stretcher, but he's still not in the ambulance, Brianna. I mean, this video has been going on for a number of minutes. Yes, I wish we could get the audio in relation to this, going on for a number of minutes. Yes. I wish we could get the audio in relation to this because they are looking at

him. They're blasting the lights, but they had doing no movement. I didn't even see proper vitals. I do not know what they're contemplating, but there doesn't seem any urgency at all in order to, once they should, I mean, they can tell, like, he couldn't keep his eyes open and so forth, to quickly put him in the ambulance and get him the medical help. Because it's evident

that he needs, even if they said he was high as a kite, he needed medical care. And so I'm not quite sure why everyone is still over him and not providing him instant medical care when the ambulance has been there for a while now. I mean, it's unbelievable. You see that right there. He's back on the ground struggling. Yeah. I mean, Carol, let me know. See if we can get Cheryl Dorsey or Reddit Hudson on.

You're watching this. And again, it is unbelievable. It's unbelievable as we watch this and just how shameful it is. And this, Matt, is why. This is why they moved these cops and arrested them. Yeah, I mean, I'm watching this video. We're seeing this. We're seeing his legs move. He still is not in an ambulance. Right. Yeah. Matt, go ahead. I was just going to say that, I mean, this this is so far beyond the pale. It doesn't surprise me that they indicted it as quickly as they did. And that D.A. knows it would be political suicide to not indict them as quickly as they did.

This is just ridiculous. And what I don't see is why they haven't indicted the others. I would imagine they're contemplating that, but this is a situation where nobody has unclean hands or has clean hands, excuse me. I mean, it's just disgusting. And I would imagine that these two EMTs to your point were fired probably very quickly for the same reason, because they're taking a pretty lackadaisical approach to this, right? He's very obviously injured. If you saw earlier in the body cam footage, you can see the injuries on his face and the blood and all that. So how they have not secured him, I don't understand any of it. But I think the bigger thing to take from this, Roland,

is all of these cops out here are acting like this is common fare. This happens all the time. None of them have any sense of urgency. They don't seem— Oh, oh, oh, oh, listen, listen. Hey, Matt, when they all came and joined in, they knew what they were doing. They were like, oh, hey, it's party time. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, I mean, we're just kicking it like literally like, oh, bro, you know, my leg hurts, bro. I mean, it is talking like they didn't just beat this dude senselessly. And that to me is indicative of them probably in this, you know, whatever targeted task force, which I find officers want to be Rambo every time they're in one of these task forces.

They want to show how hard they are. And I think all of them, to your point, wanted to jump in on this beating. But beyond that, none of them look concerned that there will be any accountability for it. I mean, sometimes you see police do things like this and they kind of immediately realize they went too far. Like that lady in I think it was in Minnesota. I can't remember her name, but she was instantly, you know, realized she made a mistake when she shot the gentleman in that case here. They're like, we're good. You know, we can just beat this man senselessly and stand around and talk as though nothing just happened. I mean, and that's a scary thing because that is indicative of what happens every day, particularly in over-policed black and brown neighborhoods

where this kind of thing happens. These are the jump out boys people talk about, right? This happens all the time and they don't feel like they need to even conceal what they did. It's just abhorrent, man. And it makes you sad to watch as a human being, to watch somebody treated, you know, in a dehumanized way, like an animal. Yeah. Hey, Roland. Yeah. Go ahead. Very quickly here. I think for at least for the five officers who have been fired and charged, their entire history at the Memphis Police Department should be inspected with a fine tooth comb,

because this probably is not the first time they've done something like this. They just got away with it the other times. And then also any complaints against them of police brutality, if they weren't disciplined, if they if something, if they responded. And it is still shocking to me that we are. This man is still on the ground. Right. They literally did not. Brianna, they they they had no regard for the injuries. They said, we're going to let this man sit here and suffer in pain. Yeah, I definitely believe it was intentional. They were upset.

If you saw in the first film, they concentrated on their eyes. And one of the guys said, you know, my knee has been hurting all day. And then as soon as I saw him, it went away. And that's what we call adrenaline. They were geeked at chasing him down. They wanted to start a fight. When he came out the car with no fight, you know, they were already being combative to when they said, I'm going to break your arm when he was already down on the ground.

He ran because they were already being overly aggressive and he was scared for his life. He was almost home. He thought maybe he could get help from other people and his mom. And it's a very, very sad sight. And it's evident he's still on the ground right now. And I think we've been looking at this for 20 minutes. And so it shows how much time has passed and how much could have been done.

And none of them did it because they're concentrating on themselves or thinks it's a joke or, you know, act like it's locker room talk. I do see that on the back of their shirts it says organized crime. So maybe a lot of them are used to dealing with gangs and do have a history of beating people up until they get what they need. I don't think it just needs to be these five officers' body cams that need to be reviewed from the past. But I do think that there needs to be a whole investigation in the Memphis Police Department because it clearly shows that there's a culture past just these five. Indeed, indeed. Folks, if you're just tuning in, we now literally we have 27,000 people who are watching on our YouTube channel. The moment we started showing this video at the top of the hour, we were at about 5,000.

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He's a former police officer who has been focused on police accountability as well. And so we have been. So we'll have him on in a second. who has been focused on police accountability as well. And so we have been, so we'll have him on in a second. And I just, and Matt, as a civil rights attorney, I mean, this has to absolutely just piss you off watching this, watching it unfold in terms of what is of what happened here. And this is the thing. This is not just, again, this is not just an isolated case.

We have seen so many of these stories across the country involving black cops, involving white cops, involving Asian cops, involving Latino cops. Folks, look, I mean, the fact that this man is still on the ground, all this time that has passed, and they just didn't care, he's still laying there. This is not about, yes, it is white supremacy in police departments. It is racism among cops. But this is not just white supremacy. This is blue. This is people who have the protection, qualified immunity with the guns, with the badges. They know full well that in most cases they can get away with it. They know exactly how this happens. And so they know, unlike in this case, 99.9% of the time there is no firing, no arrest, no indictment.

It is this is going to be a bigger settlement with the city of Memphis than George Floyd's was. It will be bigger than that, not in terms of the significance, obviously the significance is the same, but in terms of the monetary exchange, in terms of a settlement, it'll be bigger than that. Um, because this is, this is indicative of what happens every day that people don't believe. And this is the consequence of rhetoric we have allowed to run, you know, amok with law and order. Right. You support the blue no matter what. But I don't see Josh Hawley or Ted Cruz or anybody on TV saying this isn't the blue I support. And this is exactly what makes. Yeah. Precisely. Where, where, where are all those back? Where are all the blue lives matter people? Where are black? Where are all the Blue Lives Matter people? Where are all the back the blue people?

It's amazing how they're all silent. It's amazing how the sheriff's union, how the fraternal order of police, now they're all silent. They're not condemning their own. They're silent. Yeah, yeah. And what they do all the other time is they say we're playing the race card or we're trying to be divisive or whatever, you know, is expedient to their narrative. Right. But this is this is humanity. This is a lack of humanity on display.

And I don't see the fraternal order of police coming out and decrying these officers. You know, I mean, Christopher Wray said it was appalling, but this is this is ridiculous. And it's I really struggle to find the words despite talking for a living. I can't find the words for this because it is so beyond the pale. You're literally watching a man be beaten that ultimately loses his life, and people are standing around, and they're treating him like an animal, like they hog-tied a hog. And it's just absurd. And let's be clear, Bri let's let's be clear, Brianna.

Let's be real clear on this issue that we have this because of the video. We have Freddie Gray. Those cops got away with murder because there were no cameras in the back of that truck, that paddy wagon. We know these things have happened all across America. And the only reason those stories were not national stories because there was no video. Right. And that's why we changed legislation to enforce those body cams. Before, I mean, it's been, I think,

it's been a decade where it was required in some cities to wear the body cam. And as it's been, I think, less than a decade where it was required in some cities to wear the body cam. And as it was shown, they intentionally tried to hide the body cam when they knew that there was an issue. But we now have those blue light cities, that's what we call it in Detroit, where in some cities it's green lights. But it's in an area where you know that it's high crime or propensity of crime.

And it's usually in these black areas. And so the fact that we're able to get the corner and get this, and they didn't think about the camera above, even though usually it flashes a light, makes me wonder. It goes back to the culture because they say, okay, even that above is flashing. Maybe people don't know about the top. Maybe once they see that he ran away or et cetera, and he's in the car and he's back in jail, no one's going to investigate that camera. And so we can do what we usually do because they know that there's a camera because it flashes

a light on that corner and they still ignored it they have a camera on their chest and they still ignore it the the the the paramedics are there and they're they're helping him still on the actual street. They got a stretcher. They're not. They're not joining him. Yeah. Joining us right now, I saw Brianna is Reddit Hudson, former St. Louis police officer, founder of the National Coalition of Law Enforcement Officers for Justice, Reform and Accountability. Reddit, we literally have been playing this video. It's been going now in almost 20, 30 minutes. And that man is still there.

He is still on the ground. No aid, no assistance. After viciously beating this man, and we now know because of the autopsy, the independent autopsy of the internal bleeding going on, just watching this for you, your reaction. Man, Roland, it's devastating to see brothers who have internalized this white supremacy that comes with police culture. And to see them exercise that power over this brother and then fail to render aid in a timely manner, you know, it's beyond disappointment, man. It renews, I think, in all of us the sense that we have serious work to do, man. This police culture is something that's gotten out of control too many times.

We see that everybody can engage in abuse, police, power. I've said it to you before, white officers, black officers, Asian officers. What stays the same is who they abuse, black people without resources, without voices, black bodies, because that's the way the system is structured. You understand inherently that we can do this to these people, and you expect to do it with impunity, but that blade cuts both ways, as these brothers have learned. It don't work like that for you. Ain't no police union members getting ready to say shit for you, man.

They ain't coming to your rescue. They're not getting ready to stand up for you. You can align yourself with that culture. But when you fall out, they leave you where you are. The standard is the same. There's always a different response for black people in both settings. It's sad, man. It's sad to see these brothers do this.

And I'm deeply disappointed. Of course, we've got a whole lot of racists who are flooding our YouTube channel. We are blocking them as fast as possible. Kenan, if you're watching, put the live chat on slow scroll. And then that way it is very much easier for us to do what we have to do. Reddit, look, you have been out here fighting against this type of stuff for a very, very long time. And I said this today and I still believe it fundamentally. If President Joe Biden should do on Monday or tomorrow or Sunday, he should announce that he that he is calling Kevin McCarthy,

Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell to the White House, have families of police violence there and say it is by the third anniversary of George Floyd's death. We should be passing the George Floyd Justice Act. This should be the number one families at the White House sitting across from them and saying, get this done. Agreed. You know, we've been down this road so many times, man, just generation after generation. Here we have an opportunity, post-Mike Brown, post-George Floyd, now this situation, to really make dramatic change if the will is there. And I know some people lose their will in the face of the establishment telling them that it's never any really big deal when we are murdered this way on the street. But the country is changing, and our position in it should

change, and our opposition to this should only increase, man. Don't let anyone discourage you from the reality that this system needs to be remade. And we owe that to ourselves, to our children, to our ancestors. It's—yeah, that needs to be a priority. And whoever doesn't have the political courage to engage in that needs to get out of politics and the business of representing our interests. That right there, Matt, I'm telling you, if I am the families of folks affected by police violence, I am calling on the, saying to the White House. We will be there in one week. We'll be there in 10 days. And they say, y'all show up or not. And say to the president, we want them all there. We want Republicans and Democrats. And no, don't call Senator Tim Scott. Don't call him to the meeting.

Say McConnell, you're the minority leader. Schumer, you're the Senate majority leader. McCarthy, you're the House leader. Jeffries, you're the minority leader. We want you to get it done. Right. Agreed. And they should do the same thing at their state legislatures and they should demand that their governors and like right now, Texas is in session. They need to be passing state laws just like they did in Colorado to repeal qualified immunity. This is the outlier case insofar as the whole world is watching it, you know, in real time what's happening. And the city of Memphis is going to pay a boatload of money, as they should, to his family, his estate, for what happened.

But this happens every day to people, not maybe to this extent. But it happens every day to people. And they have to come sit in the very office, and they have to hear me give them a spiel about how hard it is to vindicate their constitutional rights when some cop body slammed him because he was angry, right? This is every day. And we as a society love to lie to ourselves about the value of our constitutional rights because we allow the courts and the powers that be to divest us of a way to actually vindicate them. So to your point, the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act needs to be passed,

but qualified immunity and any other like immunity that keeps people from being able to get meaningful justice need to be demanded on the state and the federal level. The only real way to disincentivize this kind of action is to not only put people in prison and in jails, but to hit them in the pocket. And it is so hard to do that. And until it's not as hard to do that, you're going to see cavalier police because the courts are going to say our jurisprudence allows it. Until it doesn't allow it, there's not going to be any incentive to stop behavior like this? Brianna, again, you have all these political leaders saying no violence, no violence, peaceful protest, no violence. How about some action? We had the chair of the Memphis City Council. This is where Memphis Mayor Strickland has gotten to step up. You heard the chairman

Jones say, hey, I need six votes. I don't want to hear any more statements. I don't want to hear them, uh, quoting MLK at the funeral, any of that. No, you're a political leader. What are you going to do now? Absolutely. Uh, it's stated, make sure that we get what we need in legislature, in Congress. Definitely keep pushing this forward. The fact that we do have bills such as the George Floyd Act already on the table, we can galvanize around this. We do have the majority in the Senate. And so we fight hard for that. I do think that a lot of this needs to happen on the local levels, as Mike stated, withdrawing qualified immunity. We've been talking about it over and over and over again, but we need to start whipping

the votes. We need to start getting it done. We need to not let it go. Michael, that's it. I mean, this is where, look, there are moments. There are major moments. The George Floyd death was a catalyst. It was a major moment. I don't want to use the phrase that we can't let these moments pass because a man, a black man is dead. But but but but the death of Emmett Till served as a catalyst.

The death of Jimmie Lee Jackson. And Selma served as a catalyst. Right. We cannot let Tyree Nichols' death be in vain if we do not see something substantive come out of this, not just in the city of Memphis, not just in Tennessee, but in this country. Absolutely. You know, I totally agree with this. And this goes back to what I said a few minutes ago. I agree with you saying that Biden should call for the leaders of the House and the Senate to come to a meeting along with the families. And I would say also along with the Fraternal Order of Police and the International Association of Police Chiefs, they should be in that meeting as well. And the reason why I say that is because the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act would have rescinded qualified immunity, number one. Number two, those two police unions, they came out September 25th after Senator Tim Scott blocked the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act and lied and said that it would defund the police,

they came out and said that those two unions came out and said they supported the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, one. And two, it does not defund the police. And they talked about how it would give added protections for citizens but also protect police at the same time. Now, in addition to what I just said, white families who have unjustly lost loved ones to police killings,

they should definitely be in those meetings as well. White mothers who unjustly lost loved ones to police killings, they should be in those meetings as well because oftentimes this gets passed off as just a black thing. It's not just a black thing, okay? It's an American thing. So I totally agree with you, and we should push to make that happen. The bill passed the House of Representatives, 220 to 212, okay, March 2021, the George Floyd Justice of the Police Act.

And so you got to get it through the House again and get it through the Senate. But we cannot let this moment leave us, okay, and not get that bill passed. Reddit, this is really what it is. At the end of the day, we've got to see some action. You have to. I mean, we've been past the point for talk. We were past that point pre-Mike Brown. And to the brother's point, yes, this happens to everyone,

but I think it happens disproportionately to black people in this country when it comes to a lack of accountability in the aftermath of people abusing our bodies. So, yeah, it has to happen. Roland, I'm going to have to jump off. You know, I always wanted to be. Understand. Well, yeah. No, no, no.

I understand. I understand. We're live here and I'm live here in Denver. I'm actually supposed to be going to pick up this award. I told them we've got breaking news on Reddit. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you so very much. Also, I just got to.

I'm going to make time for you. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. Thanks a you. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Yes, sir. Also, folks, we're about to bring on someone from Noble in just a second. Also, I just got a note from my producer that the folks at Greater Friendship Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, they have voted against allowing us to have the community forum for Bethune-Cookman

at their church. They agreed to do it. Now they voted against that. We'll be finding another location in Daytona Beach to do it. Trust me, we're working on that right now. But you see what happens when you start demanding accountability. Folk get scared, and that's exactly what happened there. So I'll let you all know what happens with that. Do we have Brenda Goss Andrews with Noble? Okay, call her right now. So, folks, again, what we were showing you, has the video run out? Because I still want to know. Okay, so

it ran through. So in that 30 minutes, the EMTs never showed up, right? They showed up at the end. So pretty much 30 minutes went by before the EMTs finally arrived to provide some type of care to Tyree Nichols.

That right there, Breonna, is unbelievable. And that's also why two fire department personnel members were fired as a result of the beating and the eventual death of Tyree Nichols. Absolutely. Everybody involved should be fired. I don't really know what more to say. It's a very tragic incident, and I emphasize to actually listen to the sound makes it even more heart-wrenching. To know what is occurring, running away or whatnot, it's the sound. Because

you can hear the jokes. You can hear the malice. You can hear that they were trying to do harm to the man. And even after it, even while they're all standing around, not one thing makes them feel remorseful not one thing say you know what my eye hurts but i went too far not one and so as it's been stated before there's there's there shouldn't be any uh reduction or or knocking off points or they should be They should be charged to the fullest extent. There are protests already happening in different parts of the country right now, Michael. That's what we expected to take place, and as it should, because this is not a Memphis issue. This is not a Tennessee issue only.

This is a national epidemic in this country. Yeah, and this should be an organizing point. This should be a point to organize. Yes, march and protest, but we have to redirect that energy beyond just this incident and marching for this incident. So you have to join organizations that are about the betterment of your community, as well as holding police officers accountable, elected officials accountable, et cetera, because all this is connected. And then the other thing is, there's an economic component to this also. You've talked about the plight of African-American-owned businesses rolling and how 95 percent only have one employee. And if we spent more dollars with

our own businesses, we could employ more of our own people as well. This is an economic issue. At the end of your march, each day at the end of your march, at the end of your protest, march yourself down to Black-owned businesses and support them and buy them out as well. Because you're going to have to go to some of those businesses to support your organizations economically so you can continue to protest or so you can travel and protest. Right. Different things like this, the type of work that you do, how you've helped Tamika Mallory, things like this. So we all have to work together on this. So beyond just a protest today or a protest this weekend. Folks, you see the folks gathering there in Memphis and other parts of the country.

Hold on one second. Joining us right now is Brenda Goss Andrews. She's the president of the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, known as NOBLE. Brenda, glad to have you joining us. Just share with us just your thoughts as a law enforcement executive looking at that video that's been released by the city of Memphis of these five black officers viciously beating Tyree Nichols. He dies three days later of his injuries. As a result of that, those officers have been arrested, indicted, and fired. Thank you. Thank you, Roland, for having me on the show. I did have an opportunity to see the video and take some notes. And one of the things that

struck me the most was the fact that they were aggressive from the very beginning. They escalated that situation. Usually we have what we call a forced continuum where you escalate as the need, but they started that encounter on 100. They came out of the car cursing and grabbing him and asking him to show the hands, you know, tasing him. And one officer got tased himself. And then when he broke away

and ran, you know, they continued after him. More and more officers. But one thing that I noticed that it was so many officers at the scene. Multiple officers were at the scene, counted maybe about 10. It could have been more. So definitely excessive force. Needless encounter. There was no supervisor. Notice that also for something like this, there was no supervisor at the scene. Usually supervisors are monitoring the radio, but I didn't see any supervisors that had come to the scene. And rolling that last pole camera, you know, really gave us kind of a bird's eye view of how savagely he was beat. Now, what we saw was a retractable baton, and those are usually metal and very, very not always heavy but with the right amount

of force can be deadly and if you see that maybe here in this picture here that he was beat repeatedly with the baton punched kicked and cursed that you wouldn't even do a dog like that. This is just horrifying to the community. And believe it, it is horrifying to us in law enforcement. So those are the things. I have said, Brenda, that as a result of this, President Biden should call congressional leaders to the White House, sit across from families of victims of police violence and tell them in the eye, get the George Floyd Justice Act done by the third anniversary of his death.

This is where leaders need to lead. And I agree wholeheartedly. It got stalled out before, you know, no one's had conversations about this. And we just have to stop just talking about it. And we continually say, oh, this has to stop. But then we don't do anything to stop it. for everyone to come together and pass the George Floyd bill. It is so much that needs to be done, police reform. And the vast majority of police officers are good officers. We don't see this all the time. But when they're bad, they're really bad. And I'm encouraged that the Memphis Police Department did take swift action.

They did make decisive action. and they were terminated, and the prosecutor, you know, indicted. So that is hopeful that we're not seeing those times when people are actually waiting for days and weeks. We don't hear anything from the police department. The video footage is not released for weeks, you know, in months. So I praise the accountability and the transparency that the Memphis Police Department has displayed. Well, you have the police chief there. Obviously, she has taken she's been very aggressive.

Chief Davis speaking out against this as well. And so we have we certainly observe how she's responded. And again, based upon seeing this video, these five officers were fired. They've been indicted and arrested. There's some other officers who should also be fired for their actions on that night as well, because it wasn't just those five that night. Absolutely, and I think that's what, you know, surprised, I won't say it surprised me, because I've done these type of investigations. I retired from the Detroit Police Department, and I have done forced investigation. One thing I always knew that you have the responding officers, then you have what I call the onlooking officers

that respond. They don't get their hands dirty, but then they don't do anything either. So it'll be interesting to see, you know, as we go on with this, just who else might be implicated in it. Duty to intervene was a key thing that I noticed actually from George Floyd. The ones that were holding him down and then the others that stood by and let it happen. And they're just as culpable. And I saw a lot of this in this video. Like I said, I counted maybe about 10 officers that were maybe involved in this. It could have been more. But how they were standing around behind the car, failing to render aid or failing to stop their fellow officers,

you know, from continuing with this barrage, you know, of beating. Something has to be done, Roland, you know, and I agree. And we just have to stop talking about this now and really, really do something about it. Indeed, Brenda Goss Andrews, President of Noble. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you so much for having me. Good night. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm going to go to final comments from my panel. Brianna, you first. Yeah. So we keep on saying we need to get something done. And it's a larger issue. We can organize now. And one thing that's simple that we can-Y-R-E to 55156. And they're really focusing on giving letters to city council to force that these pretextual stops cease from happening and to also allow for a civilian response unit. You know, he was calling out for help, help, help,

to have a civilian unit to help in this situation. And honestly, there needs to be some more research into the organized crime unit. Maybe get rid of it. Maybe see if there's a use for it. But there definitely needs to be change within this police department. And we need to galvanize it. We need to show that we all care and that is important and sign the petition for Memphis City Council to make these changes right away. Michael. You know, Roland, once again, thanks for this coverage and for this platform. I would say we have to get involved in organizations in our community that are holding police accountable, holding politicians accountable, because usually the mayor appoints the police chief.

The police chief sets the tone for policing in the police department and what's permissible, et cetera. And then, you know, this has to continue. This requires organization, organizing, and actually changing policies, not just at the federal level, but the state and local level, because the majority of control over policing is not at the federal level. It's at the federal level, it's at the state, local, and city level as well. So this requires organizing and policy changes, laws change at all levels. Okay, so we have to see this through, not through just a weekend or a month, but we have to see this through until we get the change that's needed.

Matt? I don't know. I don't know because we always say the same things and we have the same ideas. And that's not to issue what Michael and Brianna said. I think they're all appropriate. But I don't think there will be real change until the government is afraid of the people. And I don't think we should have January 6th. I'm not going to advocate for anything like that. But I think if there are recall motions that your state allows, people need to sign the petitions to do that.

If there are, you know, boards that you can be on that make lower-level city decisions that don't rely solely on politicians, we should be on them, because the reality is this, that people respond to fear and they respond to force. And that's unfortunate, but that's the truth. And hoping and wishing and prayers and well wishes is not going to get it done. It doesn't get it done. It didn't get done after George Floyd. No matter how shocked we are by some of these things, until we have a response that basically cannot be denied, we'll be in this position where we're trying to figure out new ways to strategize. And I don't have the answers. I don't purport to have the answers.

But what I do have is the evidence that it's fallen on deaf ears. So until we hold our politicians accountable in a way that they have to be genuinely afraid that they will lose their jobs or be prosecuted for dereliction of duty or whatever it may be, we're going to be in the same place. Because when five cops can brutally kill a man on video, and that is the furthest end of the spectrum, but we don't consider all the times where people are body slammed and beaten up and all the videos that I see on a daily basis, and that continues to happen, then we're allowing the government to continue eroding our rights and continue eroding our quality of life, us particularly as Black people. So I think we have to find stronger measures. And I think a lot of those measures are taking people out of office by the force of a recall. That requires organizing.

Folks, at the end of the day, folks, absolutely. We're going to see a reaction this weekend. Obviously, protests are already taking place. People are gathered, can't light vigils. But at the end of the day, what do you do now? What happens next? It's real easy for us to sit here and, again, folks show up. But remember, millions across America, across the world, showed up on behalf of George Floyd.

Yet when Congress was debating, when they were going through the negotiations for the George Floyd Justice Act, where were those people? I know where black people were. So of all our allies who are white and Latino or Asian, folk who are gay, who are transgender, where will you be Monday?

The following Monday. The following Monday. The following Monday. The following Monday. And on and on and on. Nothing is going to change in America unless Americans say enough is enough. And not just black Americans. We were here with Eric Garner.

John Crawford, the third. We were here with George Floyd. We had Samson Gowey on talking about the number of people killed last year by police, the highest ever. Two cops in Florida kidnap the homeless man,

viciously beat him. They were arrested yesterday. We can go city by city, state by state. None of this changes unless political leaders have the courage to stand up to police unions and say enough is enough. President Biden, it's time to lead. The executive order wasn't enough. Governor Lee of Tennessee,

it's time to stop playing footsie with the anarchists, the white domestic terrorists, the Republican Party. Time for you to lead. Mayor Strickland, you lead a majority black city. King was killed April 4th, 68, talking about economics and black folks still are economically disenfranchised in your city. What the hell are you going to do? Enough of the awards, enough of the speeches, enough of the quotes. Leaders lead.

And we're going to hold all of you accountable. Greater Friendship Baptist Church, Daytona Beach, y'all have canceled my appearance. My understanding is a whole bunch of folk who are prominent folks in their title university didn't want us there and they were pissed. I'm still coming. We don't back down from anybody. So just like we are going to lead and hold people accountable in Memphis and police brutality? Same will happen to Bethune-Cookman and anywhere else. Because it was Dr. King who said

the Negro press is one of the four forces that can liberate black people. He specifically said to maintain your militancy and not settle for the conservative. And we will do exactly what he said. Folks, I got to go.

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