#RolandMartinUnfiltered - US Supreme Court Rulings, GA Sheriff's Assault Allegations, Debt Ceiling Vote, UberEats Controversy
Episode Date: June 2, 20236.1.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: US Supreme Court Rulings, GA Sheriff's Assault Allegations, Debt Ceiling Vote, UberEats Controversy The Supreme Court rulings released several important rulings today... on Unions, drug prices, and workplace communications. We'll speak with Elie Mystal, Justice Correspondent for The Nation, about what these rulings mean for you. A Georgia County Sheriff's office faces more allegations of employees assaulting inmates. We'll speak with the civil rights attorney representing five men who say Camden County jails employees beat them. The Debt Ceiling vote passed in the House and is now going to the Senate. We'll give you the latest update on what this means for the country's finances and how it could impact your life. Plus, we'll talk with Exavier Pope, Host of SuitUP News and the Owner of The Pope Law Firm in Chicago, about his viral tweet where he says an Uber driver asked him for money for gas. And tonight, we remember actor John Beasley. We'll take a look at his legacy and the impact he had on the entertainment industry. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network from Atlanta. The Supreme Court came down with several decisions.
One of them has an impact on labor.
We'll talk with The Nation justice correspondent,
Ellie Mistel, about the Supreme Court decisions and what they mean,
and also get his take on what is coming down next when they likely are going
to get rid of affirmative action.
Also on today's show, Xavier Potem. often seen him on the show as a panelist.
Boy, he caused quite a stir on social media when he tweeted about a Uber driver asking
him to send him gas money to deliver his food.
And Xavier like, hell no.
Well, a lot of folks got upset with him. We'll talk to him about how that one tweet has actually gone viral.
Also on today's show, a Georgia County Sheriff's Office faces more allegations of employees assaulting inmates.
We'll tell you about what's happening in Camden County.
Also, at today's convening of the Southern Justice Coalition,
a variety of grassroots organizations participated with the National Coalition
on Black Civic Participation.
Reverend Dr. Bernice King spoke to the group,
and so we'll show you some of what she had to say as well.
Plus, we'll remember actor John Deep Beasley, who passed away at the age of 79.
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Folks, it is the 1st of June, which means Supreme Court decisions coming down.
Three rulings were issued today by the Supreme Court. Let's go right to Ellie Mistel,
justice correspondent for The Nation, who can explain to us exactly what happened. Ellie,
always glad to see you. Let's first start off with this labor case. What was the case about?
What did the Supreme Court decide? Yeah, so the right to strike,
kind of an important tool in labor's arsenal against corporate interests and corporate greed,
that was severely vitiated today at the Supreme Court. The case is called Glacier
Incorporated versus Teamsters. Basically, the Teamsters union walked out on the job
of a cement company, right? They poured the
cement, they put it into their trucks. The Teamsters drove the trucks away to start the
deliveries. Around lunchtime, the Teamsters called for a strike. So instead of delivering the cement,
they drove the trucks back to the lot and left the trucks running and walked off the job.
Well, if you know anything about cement, you know, it tends to dry and harden. The cement dried, some of it dried and hardened, some of it damaged some
of the trucks. After the strike was over, Glacier, the cement company, sued the Teamsters Union
for economic damages for the lost cement and the damage to the trucks. Now, in normal situations,
that case gets thrown out
on its ear. And in fact, when they sued in Washington State Court, the glacier is the
cement companies from Seattle, it was tossed out on its ear. But the Supreme Court revived the case.
And today, by a vote of eight to one, with Katonji Brown Jackson being the only dissenting justice,
the Supreme Court said the cement company could, fact sue the Teamsters for economic harm for their strike.
OK, so explain eight to one. That's interesting because you obviously you got three so-called liberal justices.
And so what the hell happened here? Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of,
excuse me, I'm kind of grasping at straws to understand what was in the minds of Sotomayor
and Elena Kagan when they voted along with this decision. Because make no mistake, if you can sue,
look, the point of a strike, right, is to cause economic harm to your employer. And while
everybody understands, you know, right, you can't walk. And while everybody understands, you know,
right, you can't walk out on the job and, you know, set fire to the building on the,
on your way out. Everybody kind of understands that, but causing some kind of economic pain to your employer is literally the point of a strike. And if you are able, if the company
has been able to sue the union in this case, every time there's economic harm based on a strike,
it just curtails the ability of unions and workers to organize and cause that economic
pain to get better deals at the negotiating table.
Why did the other two liberals join with the six conservatives on this case?
Well, I think I'm going to be nice to them and say that what they were trying to do is mitigate harm.
Legally, there's a technical issue about whether or not the National Labor Relations Board gets to hear this case first.
Usually, the National Labor Relations Board would get to decide before the Supreme Court.
In this particular case, the conservatives said that they could interpose themselves before the NLRB.
But Justice Thomas and Justice Gorsuch, and to some extent Justice Alito, would have basically
disagreed with the NLRB's right to exist. And so if those three had held sway on the Supreme Court,
the decision would have been far, far worse. And it's possible that Sotomayor and
Kagan went along with, you know, Barrett, who wrote the majority opinion, and you call me Barrett,
and the other kind of more moderate conservatives, simply to mitigate the harm that Clarence Thomas
and Neil Gorsuch were trying to do. That's my best answer for them. But the other, I think,
upshot is that by being an eight-to-one decision, it kind of let Katonji Brown Jackson loose to write so far the best dissent of this term.
Her dissent, put it like this, her dissent is longer than the majority opinion and some
of the concurrences combined.
She went all in on how terrible this decision is and how if the court had simply should
have had basically the humility to allow the NLRB to make the ruling first
before the Supreme Court stepped in and ruled on the side of the corporations,
it was a brilliant dissent that she was free to write in part because, hey, she was a lone dissenter.
So, you know, she shot her shot.
Well, of course, and as usual, Clarence Thomas, full of crap, pretty much saying, why even have a National Labor Relations Board?
Yeah, his argument was that the deference that we normally get from the NLRB should not exist.
And let me just quickly explain, why does the NLRB exist, right?
Why is there a National Labor Relations Board?
Well, because there's a National
Labor Relations Act, which protects the right to strike. And it protects it on a national level,
so that when it comes to striking workers, you're not supposed to have to worry about whether or
not you're in Illinois or California or West Virginia or Ron DeSantis-Stan in Florida. You're
supposed to have a national protection for workers' rights
and for the right to strike. And that is the heart of what this decision goes at. It takes away,
and Thomas would have completely taken it away, Barrett severely weakens that national protection
for the right to strike and instead leads it up to state by state by state to determine kind of
which damages are
going to apply. And you can imagine how hard this is going to be going forward for labor organizers.
You can imagine, oh, I don't know, writers striking in California. Now, instead of availing
themselves to the National Labor Relations Board, they might be sued in California,
in a California state court, over grinding Hollywood to a halt.
You can imagine co-workers striking in West Virginia. If you're a co-worker in West Virginia,
who do you want to hear your strike? The National Labor Relations Board or some state court judge
in Huntington, West Virginia, right? So by taking it back down to the states, what they've really done is, again,
severely weaken the right to strike for union organizers and workers all across the country.
All right. Let's talk about this communications lawsuit. What is that all about? Explain it. Oh, gosh, I barely know. It's a false claim.
That's an issue that I'm barely read up on. It was a unanimous decision. Even though it was
written by Thomas, it was a unanimous decision. So I'm going to, based on my very poor understanding
of it, I'm going to say it was not off the chain weird. I was kind of surprised that the court took the case in the first place because I thought it was a kind of simple issue, again, to the extent of my very limited understanding of it.
And the fact that it was a 9-0 decision on this case makes me feel that I was probably right to not pay too much attention to it.
The whistleblower decision.
The whistleblower decision. So that was from last week, right?
So the key with the whistleblower decision is it's really about an—oh, wait, are we talking about Paxton or are we talking about the environmental law case from last week?
The one involving a lawsuit going forward that companies defrauded Medicare and Medicaid programs.
Oh, so that was, yeah, so that was a whistleblower thing on a shareholder lawsuit thing.
Again, it was 9-0.
It wasn't that.
Again, this was another one.
This is a Gorsuch opinion.
This was the one that I, again, was particularly surprised that the court took at all, because this usually gets
kind of kicked out at the lower court level with no problem. The fact that it survived a lower
court challenge made it all but certain the Supreme Court was going to take this case and
smack it out of the park, because it's just, it's not, it's not the kind of claim that usually
survives even in a lower court situation. So I wasn't surprised about that
case at all. Two things we're looking out for, obviously, the Supreme Court's decision regarding
affirmative action, as well as another aspect of the Voting Rights Act, correct? Yes, those are
the two, those are two of the three big ones I'm still, we're still waiting for. I think the third big one is the Indian Child Welfare Act, basically whether white people can adopt Native children against the will of Native communities who don't want to let white people adopt their children. That's another huge case coming up. mentioned, obviously very big. The Supreme Court is going to overturn affirmative action this month.
Like, that is almost certain. They're going to overturn it. I believe Clarence Thomas is going
to end up writing that opinion, although John Roberts might want to have a say in it as well.
I believe it's going to be six to three. And I believe they're going to do it without actually
overturning the discrimination that Asian American AAPI students
do face at some of these universities. The record was clear that AAPI students do not face
discrimination because of affirmative action. That was actually established at the lower courts.
The lawsuits were against two universities, Harvard University and University of North
Carolina. In the University of North Carolina situation, they found that Asian American students were
actually more likely to get into school than black students. So like the argument that
affirmative action was taking their spots simply failed its first contact with reality
in North Carolina. In Harvard, they did find that there was a metric that Harvard was using
that was potentially discriminatory against Asian American students. It has nothing
to do with affirmative action. It's this other metric that I believe Harvard University shouldn't
use when putting together its class. What's going to happen this month is that the Supreme Court is
going to overturn affirmative action saying that it's discriminatory against Asian American
students, but leave this metric in place that is actually discriminatory against AAPI students. That is the
depth and the level of the hypocrisy that comes out of the Supreme Court and Clarence Thomas in
particular. On the voting rights case, I do believe it is very likely that the Supreme Court will
vitiate Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. That's the section of the Voting Rights Act that just
allows you to sue for racial discrimination in voting. It's the kind of basic operational factor of the Voting Rights Act.
I believe that's going down this term. This month, I believe John Roberts will write that. If you
look at the kind of tea leaves of who's written what case from when, it looks like Roberts has
kept that case to himself. And for all the people, all the media people, especially all the
generally kind of mainstream media people, especially, who tend to act like Roberts is some kind of moderate good guy influence on the Supreme Court, make no mistake.
John Roberts has been an enemy of black people voting for his entire legal career. Indeed, his first job after he finished clerking was to work for the Reagan
White House, arguing against an expansion to the Voting Rights Act that was eventually
pushed through, that was conceived of by the late Lonnie Guineer, that was so popular that
even Ronald Reagan had to sign that expansion of the Voting Rights Act. The Voting Rights Act was
confirmed under George W. Bush by a voice vote. These are bedrock American principles that even
Republicans agree with, but not John Roberts. John Roberts has been our enemy on voting rights
for his entire life, and he's going to continue to be our enemy this month.
Last point here, Ellie, and that is this here. I spend lots of time trying to connect the dots and explain to people public policy, how these things work, and why these things matter. And
you got some people out here, you got some Black folks out here who say, well, you know,
I don't see what the big deal is. It was performative with Biden
appointing a black woman to Supreme Court. Katarzy Brown Jackson is no big deal. I'm trying to
explain to people how one federal judge could make a ruling that literally goes out across the entire
country. And so just take 60 seconds and explain to the simple Simons out there who don't quite
understand the impact of when it comes to
who's the president, who controls the Senate, and how who they pick to be federal judges for life
can have a direct impact on the life of Black folks. If there's anything you care about in
terms of the Black agenda, whether or not that be voting rights, whether or not that be climate
equality and justice and fairness, whether or not that be gun reform, whether or not that be climate equality and justice and fairness,
whether or not that be gun reform, gun safety, police brutality, police reform,
all of that ends up in front of the Supreme Court, all of it.
And so if you let Republicans control the Supreme Court, as they do now,
what you're saying is that you're giving Republicans a veto on the other two branches of government.
There's not a law you can pass that the Supreme Court cannot overturn if it deems fit. So all the
activism and effort and push around things that matter to our communities, whether they be jobs,
whether they be voting rights, whatever you want to say, all of that is subject to the
whims of five Supreme Court justices. And right now, Republicans have six. So as long as you let
Republicans pick the court, then you're going to get nothing. That is the brass tacks of it all.
If you let Republicans control the court, you get nothing. And I just need people to understand that.
I need people to understand the importance of even one extra justice.
Look at today, where Kataji Brown Jackson, first black woman on the court, appointed by Joe Biden, was the only voice today defending labor, defending the rights of unions to strike. That's how important even one justice can be,
because even though she lost, she has laid now the groundwork for what one would hope will
eventually be overturning this terrible decision today by her argument, by her scholarship,
and by her fire, even today, as she stood alone on the Supreme Court.
Ellie Misnell, Justice Correspondent for the Nation. We appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot.
Thanks a lot for having me.
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All right, folks, welcome back to the show.
Let's bring in my panel here.
Glad to have them on today's show.
Welcome back.
He was out last week.
We're glad to have Dr. Greg Carr back in the joint.
Of course, Department of African American Studies at Howard University.
Greg, glad to see you here.
Also, folks, on today's show, of course, I'm sure you got lots to say about the Supreme Court.
Of course, she's been, oh, just out and about and hanging out with Beyonce over in Paris and just, you know, traveling the world.
Give it up for Recy Colbert, host of the Recy Colbert Show out of Washington, D.C.
Glad to have Recy with us.
You've got her parents, Dan, Dr. Julianne Malvo, Dean, College of Ethnic Studies, California State University, Los Angeles.
Glad to have all three of you here.
Greg, I'll start with you, Ohio State Law School graduate, teaching law class there at Ohio University Law School.
I want to really stay on the importance of these courts because, you know, I've been here in Atlanta.
Last couple of days,
National Coalition on Black Civic Participation. They've been having their Southern Conference
tied to the Tommy Dorch Institute that they opened at Clark Atlanta University.
And what people need to understand, and we've been talking about these elections, what is happening right now is probably the greatest or the gravest moment for African-Americans in terms of a legal system. targeting black people since racists tried to stop Jim Crow,
tried to stop Brown versus Board of Education in 1954.
The legal fights, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund
and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law,
the Transforming Justice Coalition, and all of these legal groups,
the fight that they are engaged in is literally hand to hand combat.
Absolutely, absolutely. It's intellectual warfare.
The the the extreme right wings, as you heard Ellie say, Clarence Thomas in particular, don't believe the administrative state should exist.
Last year, they eviscerated the Environmental Protection Agency, if you remember, in the
West Virginia versus the EPA courts, saying that the EPA doesn't have much right to regulate
emissions.
If you remember, also in terms of unions, they've been going after unions for a very
long time.
This is their swing and swipe at, as Ellie said, the National Labor Relations Board a couple
of years ago, 2018. They, in the California case with the California Teachers Association,
the AFSCME case, they said that if you work at an employer, you don't have a responsibility or
you're not obligated to pay union dues. So they've been doing this little by little. This current term, and we've covered all of this when they argued the cases last year
on the black table with Angie Porter and Lathie Watkins.
We went through all these oral arguments.
He mentioned the more, well, he didn't, the independent state legislature case, which
they might back off on now that they got this traitor out of Raleigh to flip her vote and
move from Democrat
to Republican in North Carolina.
But that one is really perhaps the most potentially absurd case on the docket.
If they were to say, for example, that the state legislatures can insert themselves in
federal elections without any supervision by any Supreme Court, state or federal, you're
talking about the end of the republic in terms of a legal check and balance system, which
is fine with me.
This thing's going to have to be remade.
I really do think that.
Finally, the First Amendment case, the creative, the Alanis case where the website person is
like, I don't know if I want to design websites for gay people.
That First Amendment case is very serious.
And of course, as Ellie said, the SFFA versus Harvard versus North Carolina, they're going
to get rid of affirmative action.
It really didn't bother me as much, because I've always worked in black spaces.
So our applications will probably go up.
But the bottom line is this.
When you see Ketanji Brown Jackson write as she wrote today, what you're seeing, as Ellie
said, is someone who's putting a marker down for the future.
And so where we are now is we can't take any more losses if we're serious about the question of rule
of law. They're very comfortable now. And we're seeing the face that this is a 50-year project
that has reached culmination. And we're about to see in the next month, what we're about to see in
the next month is going to make what happened over the last 30, 40 years look like a throat
clearing.
Julian,
one of the things, you know, we talked
about this on the panel yesterday
here in Atlanta, and we
were always just talking about
connecting the dots. And
look, talking about the courts, that's not sexy.
But people really need to understand.
People need to understand.
There is not a single, if you think about any law that has passed on the city level,
the county level, the state level, federal level, because we've got three branches,
folks can sue and stop things from happening. And then it goes to these courts. And if you've got
a lot of these conservative judges ruling, hard fought battles on the city, county, state,
national level can be eroded if the courts rule a different way.
And people need to understand that it's the very people who we vote for who are the ones who are
appointing or confirming, especially federal judges. We also have state judicial elections.
We just saw the Wisconsin court flip, if you will. North Carolina Democrats could have had a 6-1 majority.
It became 4-3 in 2018. 2022, it flipped. Now it's 4-3 Republican. And those Republicans were so,
so political. They were so activist, if you will. I'm using the same words the rights use.
That the so-called Democratic Supreme Court
North Carolina made a decision a few months ago. The Republicans, the moment they got control,
reversed the decision from just a few months ago. And so people need, and so that's going to impact
black folks when it comes to voting, when it comes to political gerrymandering, racial gerrymandering,
we can go on and on and on. so i just need people who are who are looking
at elections need to understand we can't have a million black people in florida sitting out
elections you can't have almost 400 000 in south carolina we can't have uh you know several hundred
thousand in louisiana and north carolina and north carolina and we can go on and on and on because the other folks,
they are going to the polls because they know about the power of the courts.
You know, Roland, I think I've told this story on the show a couple of other times
about a young sister who approached me at the Democratic Convention in 2016 and said to me,
she could not vote for Hillary because she did not like her. And she went on to say a bunch of other stuff.
And so she said she just wasn't going to vote at all.
Two years later, she called me.
She had been a Bennett student and said, Doc, what are we going to do about our abortion rights?
After that man appointed Gorsuch.
And I said to her, you know, I'm over 60.
I don't have abortion rights.
You should have
thought about that when you chose not to vote. So many folks don't get it. You don't have to
like the candidate. You have to look at what the implication of the candidate's presence is.
You know, Greg is right to talk about the unions. A Black man in a union earns a third more than a
Black man who is not in a union. A Black woman in a union earns 25 percent more than a black woman who is not in a union.
Unions are about people not having individual voices.
Everybody can't go to their employer, you know, like some of us can and say, I want more money.
The collective bargaining agreement basically preserves economic rights.
And so folks have been very short-sighted about looking at
what they get from voting. Meanwhile, as you just said, any decision that's made at any level
can be approached to or basically challenged in the Supreme Court. So even when you have
good Democrats in municipal government, in city government, those decisions can be challenged.
And what we've had is a massive indifference. The people in Florida who stay home, in Texas who stay
home, you stay home. And now they're saying you cannot have diversity offices on state-funded
universities. The affirmative action thing, I mean, we've been fighting this at higher ed for
a very long time. And blessings to Brother Carr, who does work in a Black space, but everybody
doesn't. In Texas, they're not going to have that. And what does that mean in terms of the Black and
Brown presence in higher education, not only as students, but more importantly, as faculty and
administrators who have the right to make discretionary decisions? So anybody who does education not only as students, but more importantly, as faculty and administrators
who have the right to make discretionary decisions. So anybody who does not vote,
don't just don't talk to me. I mean, it really is almost kind of disgusting to see
how we give our power away. Reverend Jackson used to always say,
the same hands that pick peaches can pick presidents, but we choose not to pick. That's right. You know, it really is an important thing, Recy.
And, you know, I get these folks and they love playing their games.
Oh, you trying to be on the Democratic plantation.
They ain't never done nothing for us.
And they start going on that sort of stuff. And I'll happily, I will happily sit down and go, conservative judges, liberal judges.
Now, let's have a conversation on what they rule on. Like, if you want to have that conversation, we can do that.
That's not a problem. And so when I hear the people say, Biden ain't done nothing for black people, look at the black farmers.
OK, what happened? It was passed by Congress.
It was signed into law by Biden.
White supremacist Stephen Miller and others, they sued.
Guess who's going to hear the federal lawsuit? Federal judges.
And it's likely going to go to the Supreme Court.
So for all the people, again, who say, man, that voting stuff don't matter.
OK. OK. And I'll take the folks talk about reparations.
That money you could if you have money that for those black farmers, that was to repair.
What happened? They sued. The courts are going to hear any lawsuit. So you can't say, I want to see public policy.
I want to see Biden do all this, this, this for black people.
And guess what? They sued student loans.
That right now is before the Supreme Court as well.
So, again, take your pick. Take your pick.
Black farmers, student loans, environmental decisions.
We could go on and on and on. It's going before the Supreme Court.
But feel free to sit at home and don't vote and then wonder why the Supreme Court rules the way they do.
Why a federal judge rules the way they do.
And I would like to point out that not only are they overturning things that are for black people, but those specific things like the farmers relief, like the student loan relief, it was implied that black people benefit.
All they have to do is make the case that black people black, black in neon letters when even using the words underserved or other euphemisms for black
have resulted in those relief packages or those bills being overturned
is kind of just dumb.
And I'm really kind of sick of explaining this basic shit to y'all over and over and over again
when the other side, which I don't think the other side is smarter.
Republicans are not smarter.
A lot of these backwoods, MAGA
people ain't got two marbles to
rub together in their brains, okay, to make
an informed decision. And yet, they somehow
get, and it's clicking to them,
the importance of courts when it's not clicking
to everybody else. And that's what is
mind-blowing to me, how these
inbred dumbasses
have figured out where the
power is, and yet we have to beg and plead every time, every two years, every year, every four years for us to vote for our survival.
This was exactly what we said was going to happen in 2020 when we said that, hey, Trump has appointed all of these judges.
This has remade the courts for a generation. With that being said, where there is still some semblance of relief is at the state level,
is at the local level.
To the extent where you have or don't have a Republican majority, like in Texas, that's
going to now usurp Democratic control in places like Houston, or in Mississippi, where they
usurp Democratic control in Jackson, we don't have national citizenship in this country
anymore. That was done as soon as Roe v. Wade was overturned. Your rights depend on where you
are located in this country and what kind of government you have voted for locally,
all right? But that still does not absolve you of your responsibility to send the right people
to Congress, and you just do the math on who's supporting what, to Congress to at least act as
a check on the Supreme Court. Because even though the Supreme Court can overturn things, the Congress can still put in new laws and put in new protections.
But we haven't been able to get that done because we have not had the majority that we needed in the Senate and in the House at the same time.
Roland, I should mention.
I'll end it with this.
Yeah, Greg, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Why are you there in Atlanta?
Remember, you talked about this last week.
Nancy Abudu just got appointed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, even though Joe
Manchin didn't vote for her.
How is this the first black woman on the Court of Appeals, on the Court of Appeals, the 11th
Circuit, which is over Georgia and Alabama?
So why are you sitting there in Atlanta? Nancy Abudu, who worked at the. So while you're sitting there in Atlanta, Nancy Aboodoo, who worked at the Southern Parliament Law Center in Atlanta,
is now on the court. Like you say, elections don't matter. Come on now. That is the court
that covers Georgia and Alabama. And yet they can still be appealed. People can still go to
the Supreme Court. So even though we have progressive state courts, we still have a Supreme Court that, quite frankly, is anti-Black, anti-progressive,
anti-economic rights. And that's not going to change anytime soon. It's disturbing,
but it's where it is. I love the fact that this sister is there, but
anything, decisions she makes can still be appealed.
Well, again, we're going to walk
folks through so they can understand
why all these elections matter.
Hold tight one second, folks. We come back.
We're going to talk about this
county in Georgia that continues
to have allegations of brutal
treatment of inmates.
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That was a pivotal, pivotal time.
I remember Kevin Hart telling me that.
He's like, man, what you doing, man?
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And I was like, yeah, well, I'm like,
you know, y'all think I'm there, I'm good.
And he was absolutely right.
What show was the other time?
This was one-on-one.
Got it.
During that time.
So you're doing one-on-one, going great,
you're making money, you're like one on one. Going great. Yeah.
You're making money. You're like.
I'm like, I don't need to leave.
I don't need to leave from Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday.
You know, I just didn't want to do that.
You know, it was just like, I'm going to stay here.
Oh, I didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out,
go do a gig Saturday, Sunday.
I was like, I don't have to do that.
And I lost a little bit of that hunger that I had in New York.
I would hit all the clubs and run around.
You know, sometimes me and Chappelle
or me and this one or that one,
we'd go to the Comedy Cellar at 1 in the morning.
I mean, that was our life. We loved it.
You know, you do two shows in Manhattan, go to Brooklyn,
leave Brooklyn, go to Queens, go to Jersey.
And I kind of just, I got complacent.
I was like, I got this money, I'm good, I don't need to go. I don't need to go chase that, because to Queens, go to Jersey. And I kind of just, I got complacent.
I was like, I got this money, I'm good.
I don't need to go, I don't need to go chase that
because that money wasn't at the same level
that I was making, but what I was missing was that training.
Yes. Was that, was that.
And it wasn't the money.
It was the money, you know, it was that,
that's what I need.
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All right, folks.
One of the stories that we have covered a lot, a lot, and really has been dealing with
brutality in jails in this country and in prisons. In this particular place here in Georgia,
it's been absolutely crazy. It's called Camden County, folks, and they have had numerous examples, allegations of brutality when it comes to inmates.
And the fundamental problem that we're seeing is that on a state level, they're not doing a great job, frankly, on holding these people accountable.
Luckily, you have the Department of Justice.
They've been very aggressive in doing so. But here in Camden County in Georgia, this video is of correction officers beating Jared
Hobbs in a jail cell that took place in November. He had been arrested for speeding, driving with
a suspended license, and possessing a controlled substance on September 3rd. Three of the deputies
involved were fired, arrested, and charged with the incident. Harry Daniels is representing these men. He joins me now from
Georgia. And again, when we played this video, we had you on, we talked about it,
and now action is being taken. But again, the brutality that we are seeing in jails in Georgia,
in South Carolina, in Tennessee, I mean, we can go state, Mississippi, state by state.
It's absolutely astounding.
Yes, Amanda Rowland, that's absolutely correct.
Thanks for having me on.
You know, this video with Jared Hobbs, we was able to get this video released through
the reason because the officers actually beating Jared Hobbs, you can see on the screen, they accused and charged Jared Hobbs
with assault on officers.
And that video was sent up to a United States attorney's office
where Jared Hobbs was being violated for probation violation
and a defense attorney got it out to us.
I say all this to say this, but for this Jared Hobb incident,
the other incidents would have not been discovered or disclosed.
So this incident with Jared Hobbs, it basically was a, once we revealed it,
it was an avalanche of inmate assaults.
Recently, two deputies have been indicted for beating other officers.
One deputy recently has been fired, charged for beating inmates.
I'm sorry, beating inmates.
So these type of incidents continue to happen in Camden County over and over. I know the GBI, as you stated, has been involved.
Charges and arrests have taken place and termination, but this
is not bad apples.
This is a bad apple orchard.
They talk about the jail
administrator. He can't control the jail.
Well, let's talk about the sheriff. The sheriff
is a bus driver. He can't drive the bus
and he can't get off the bus.
We have been able to
uncover some of these
heinous beings of these inmates.
And these are not just black inmates or white inmates.
These are old, young, different religions across the board.
And these are beatings, severe beatings.
We have one of our clients whose name is Brian Flatcher and Roland.
They beat this man almost to death.
He got black lacerated forehead. They stomped his chest.
This man is probably 60 years old. There's no regards whatsoever for human life inside this jail.
And again, pursuing charges and firing is one thing but you really have to have
substantive changes what what are county officials saying are they saying anything
well you know they're not really saying anything to this attorney and it's the same da that
prosecuted uh the uh the the killers of Ahmaud Arbery.
And this same sheriff, he carries the atmosphere,
carries the position of when his inmates,
I'm sorry, when the officers are engaged
or engaged in some type of misconduct,
he'd give them a one-day suspension
and bring them back on the job.
But once the videos come out,
the district attorney invokes the Georgia GBI
to come and investigate him,
and these people charge him felonies.
So his job is supposed to stop criminal activity,
and he's allowed criminals to be in his agency, in his office.
So I don't really think that this sheriff,
one, he's complicit, and he't, I ain't going to say control,
he's definitely not doing anything
to remedy the situation. That's why
Department of Justice had to be called
in. That's why we continue to illuminate
these cases to the Department of Justice
for them to come in and
hopefully,
I'll be honest with you, shut this jail
down and somebody come
in and take it over, revamp policies, that is the goal.
Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if a person is in jail.
They maintain a presumption of innocence and to proving guilty.
And even then, you go off to the proper correction, you still have Eighth Amendment rights from cruel and unusual punishment.
When you're beating a middle-aged man or beating a young man because he's asking questions about his phone privileges, the way and the things that's happening here,
it's uncomfortable, it's unconstitutional,
and it's dangerous not just to the inmates inside Camden County,
but it's dangerous to everybody here in the state of Georgia.
All right.
Harry Daniels, we certainly appreciate it.
Certainly keep us abreast of what happens with this case.
Appreciate it, Roland.
Thanks for having me on, brother.
All right.
Thanks a bunch.
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Now, I have no idea.
Republicans literally, y'all, are saying,
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They're lying. We'll tell y'all what the latest is. It's just incredible.
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Well, folks, the house, they, of course, moved on the debt ceiling after they were able to get Democrats to pretty much vote for Republicans voting against it.
But it has again, it is past the House now moves on to the United States Senate. Okay, now here's the problem. Now you have all of these, you got these Republicans who
are whining and complaining and saying that, oh, this is an awful deal. It's bad. It's hurting us.
It's helping China. I mean, I'm listening to some of the most stupid stuff you've ever seen.
Now, of course, you've got Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, excuse me, Minority Leader Mitch
McConnell and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer saying now it's time for the Senate to step
up and do their part to ensure the United States does not default.
Time is a luxury the Senate does not have if we want to prevent default.
June 5th is less than four days away. At this point, any needless delay or any
last-minute holdups would be an unnecessary and even dangerous risk. And any change to this bill
that forces us to send it back to the House would be entirely unacceptable. It would almost
guarantee default. So again, the Senate will stay in session
until we send a bill avoiding default to the president's desk, and we will keep working
until the job is done. Last night, an overwhelming majority of our House
colleagues voted to pass the agreement Speaker McCarthy reached with President Biden.
In doing so, they took an urgent and important step in the right direction
for the health of our economy and the future of our country.
The Fiscal Responsibility Act avoids the catastrophic consequences of a default on our nation's
debt.
And just as importantly, it makes the most serious headway in years toward curbing Washington
Democrats' reckless spending addiction. The bill the House just passed has the potential to cut federal spending by $1.5 trillion.
Now the Senate has a chance to make that important progress a reality. So now you have Senator Lindsey Graham, Senator Susan Collins and others saying, Recy, that, oh, this is just this is going to just destroy the military.
I mean, we've got to have more spending for the military.
Now, mind you, mind you, the debt limit deal increases the Pentagon's budget by 3%.
The Pentagon would be getting $886 billion, an all-time high.
But let me help some people out.
Today is June 1st, y'all.
Today is June 1st.
Just seven months ago, not seven years, just seven months ago, the House and Senate negotiators added $45 billion to the budget.
Right.
It's $840 billion.
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Forty-seven billion.
Y'all, they added 45 billion more than what Biden was asking for.
And, Recy, here we are seven months later, and they're saying, oh, my God, we got to have more.
And here's the crazy thing. People take this out.
U.S. defense spending has increased by 71 billion dollars in 2021 to 2000, 2022. I mean, damn, Recy, really? More? We are nearing $900 billion for defense,
and these people swear it's never enough. Yeah, it's complete bullshit, and I'm really
actually sick of the posturing around it. I mean, for Christ's sakes, like you just pointed out,
they have given more defense spending than even
what President Biden has put in his budget every year. So they're just trying to do whatever they
can to try to make this as painful as possible for the Democrats. These are the same Republicans
that actually voted against Republican benefits for, I'm sorry, benefits for veterans until Jon
Stewart shamed the hell out of them, and that went viral.
And so they're not really concerned about military preparedness. They're not concerned about veterans. There's nothing more impostering. And the reality is, this is a Republican deal.
This is the only deal that can make it through the Republican-controlled House. And unfortunately,
Speaker McCarthy is so weak and feckless that he isn't able to get a
majority of his crazy-ass Republicans to vote. So they had to put in a deal that could get some
Democratic votes as well. And so the fact that Republicans are throwing such a big stink over
a McCarthy-led deal is really ridiculous. And it just goes to show how accustomed Republicans have
been to being unserious about governing. And then the other thing I just goes to show how accustomed Republicans have been to being
unserious about governing. And then the other thing I just want to say is for anybody who is
not satisfied with the deal, this is what you get when you let the Republicans take control of the
House. We had an opportunity to really make transformative change with not at least having
to deal with punk-ass Manchin. And then Sinema, who has Ruben Gallego on her ass,
would have been a little bit more inclined to play ball with Democrats,
having at least an extra vote on the Democratic side in the Senate.
And if we had Hakeem Jeffries as the speaker,
we would be looking at a very different conversation here.
We would be looking at the child tax credit.
We would be looking at student loan debt being extended as opposed to being ended. But we didn't do that. We didn't do what we needed to do in 2022. And so the
Republicans are in charge of the House. This is as good as it's going to get for everybody involved.
You know what? I really hate to just stuck on stupid people. Julianne, somebody called The
Dissent on our YouTube channel just said,
Roland, I hate that you argue this point.
Stop it.
They are why you sleep safely at night and why people are walking for days to get here.
That's bullshit.
Here's why, Julianne.
We spend more on national defense than the next 10 countries behind us combined?
You know, Roland, stuck on stupid is a very nice way of saying GD ignorant, because that's what
we're dealing with here. I mean, when we think about it, the military didn't even want the extra
money. I mean, they said, we're going to give you some more money seven months ago. Military's like,
well, gee, what are we going to do with it?
The fact that let's use a couple of words. Let's talk about military industrial complex.
One, let's talk about predatory capitalism. You know, it's my favorite word.
Two, why do we need to talk about predatory capitalism?
Because if you did an audit of the military, the question is, who gains from this $900 billion behemoth called the military?
People like Bechtel and other companies who are manufacturing $1,000 toilets, where you
could go to Home Depot and get one for $75.
I mean, and let me just go down a little bit.
So we're really talking about a profit center that moves away from people and towards exploitation
and oppression.
And when you look at what's going on, I may want to give a shout out to Congresswoman
J. Paul, who talked about how this thing, even as it's been tweaked and compromised,
it's going to hurt women.
It's going to hurt women of color.
It's going to hurt older women.
Even if you cut one food stamp, somebody is going to be hit. And then this whole
notion of a work requirement, give me a you-know-what break. A work requirement. Where is the bureaucracy
to impose this work requirement? Who will enforce this work requirement? And will they go after
Becky or Keisha when they decide that somebody did not conform to the work requirement.
This is just specious and ignorant. And their whining about the military really speaks to
just the fact they cannot read, they cannot add, they cannot think. Our country is moving in the
wrong direction, right fast, the wrong direction, right
fast. And again, as Risi said, here's the bottom line. You don't vote, you know, you get what you
get. Voting has consequences. Actions have consequences. The consequences that we're
experiencing are the consequences of people not coming out in 2022. We knew these people were
going to do what they said they were going to, We knew these people were going to do what they
said they were going to do. They said what they were going to do. This is not a mystery. They
said what they were going to do. They told us what they were going to do, and they did. They
kept their word. Who didn't keep their word? Democrats. Constituency. Folks who felt they So, Greg, here's the thing that people have to understand.
Dwight Eisenhower, President Eisenhower, laid this out, the military-industrial complex.
He did.
I don't think people understand that what the military people did was they said, oh, we got you.
There is a military contractor in every congressional district in America.
That's right.
So that means they're like, oh, you cut us.
You're cutting jobs.
People need to understand you always got to follow the money.
And that's what's going on right here. There is no reason in the world the Pentagon should be
getting more money out of this debt ceiling agreement. You cannot tell me you've got an
extra $45 billion. So you went from $802 billion to $847 billion seven months ago, and now you need to go to $886 billion?
Come on, man, come on.
Roland, y'all were having that conversation last night when you were talking about the Halliburtons of the world, the Blackwaters of the world.
The Pentagon's not getting that money.
Companies are getting that money.
And what Reesey said is so very important. You know And what Rishi said is so very important.
You know, what Rishi said is so very important. When you don't vote, this is what you get.
You know, watching the vote yesterday and Leader Jeffries sitting there until the last possible
moment to see whether this feckless clown out of California could get his nut caucus, his clan
caucus, some people call it the free caucus, the Klan caucus to vote. And as cool
as the other side of the pillow, he waited
until he needed to, put his green card up,
and that released the Democrats to come in and vote.
And it also overwhelmed
in terms of numbers so that the Summerlees
and the Jarrah Pauls and others
and the Anna Pressleys could stand for the
people who are the most vulnerable.
What you just said, of course,
and Julianne Malveaux's been writing about this for years.
The most vulnerable are the ones who
are in harm's way. Food stamp work
requirements? What are you talking about? Black women, brown
men, and not just the most vulnerable, black and brown
people, and not just black and brown people. You're talking
about women. You're talking about children.
This is the challenge. But, of course,
they could still vote their principles, as will Bernie
Sanders on the Senate side. He's not going to vote for it,
nor should he, because they have the votes, finally, unless, to the
point that, again, Dr. Malmau just raised, these predatory capitalists who have whispered
into the ears of their wholly owned subsidiaries, little Lynn Graham out of South Carolina,
Wicker out of Mississippi, wholly owned subsidiaries of defense, who are saying, we're awake against China.
Let me tell you something. Jamie Dimon was in China yesterday talking about how we're going
to prop up the Chinese economy, because if you don't understand that this is a global network
of capitalism, you don't understand anything. This ain't got nothing to do with politics.
And as you said, Roland, it's all about these lobbyists and these companies who own the United States Senate.
Tim Kaine, who don't be arguing about nothing, he was like, what the?
Y'all let Joe Manchin build a $6 billion pipeline that goes through my state?
You didn't call me.
Joe Manchin votes with the Democrats about 70% of the time.
One of the times he didn't vote is when Nancy Abudu was up for the appeals
court, by the way. But,
is 70% better
than 100% against
which would have him that Jim Justice gets that seat
from him? Yes. This is a
messy, funky-ass business.
I don't know how you get up in this thing, but
I'm glad that you're up in it because
we have to understand that when it gets up close
like that, it's funky.
This ain't a popularity contest.
And unless we all go out and exercise our franchise,
it's going to get worse.
So don't complain when you,
when you come out of the deal with at least your draws on,
I know you wanted to sue,
but you got on some draws because you could have been butt ass.
And if they want a few more elections,
you ain't even going to be naked.
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I mean, you can't sit here and go
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Also, y'all, our man, lawyer Xavier Pope, you've seen him on our show.
Oh, Lord, he done got these folks stirred up on social media because he objected to an Uber driver texting him,
say, can you cash at me some gas money to drop off your food?
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Social media has been just, boy, talking, going crazy the last 24 hours
because Chicago Attorney Xavier Pope, you've seen him on our show as a panelist numerous occasions.
Let's just say he took exception to an Uber driver texting him saying,
can you cash out me some money to get some gas to drop your food off?
Xavier joins us right now.
Xavier, glad to have you here.
First of all, man, clearly you did not expect this thing to
blow up the way it's blown up.
I'm just doing what any
social media has been a place where many
consumers
frustrated with the bad customer service
having to push many different buttons,
customer service
calls being taken outside of the country
have gone to social
media to resolve their social media, to resolve their customer service complaints.
And that's been where they've been the most responsive.
And so after contacting them via the app and them not doing anything as the situation was
happening, I took to Twitter to really talk to them. And eventually it became
a conversation now that everyone seems to be happy. So, so folks, so again, so this guy,
and you posted these screenshots and he asked you to send him some money.
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to
shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future
where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
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Via Cash App, so he can have enough gas to drop your order off.
But he said, yours, your Uber driver, I can't make it to you
unless I can somehow get get gas money then
he said hello um and um you is this you say this is unprofessional this is i understand i'm very
sorry but let me know what you want me to do okay and you're like i want you to drop my food off
and so then you post it and all these people are attacking you saying you should have sent the guy the money.
That's not your expectation when you get food delivered, Roland.
You pay for your money up front. You pay for any tip.
And then you give additional tip if you want to after that food has already arrived. Now, understand, Roland, as someone who deals in a space
where I don't want to be asked
to do the business of this company,
I understand workers,
and they go through different issues
in a gig economy,
and people have a heart,
but, Roland, if you have someone ask you this,
and then on top of this, Roland,
they were calling me incessantly, and they were texting me.
So at that point, I didn't feel necessarily comfortable, and it didn't feel like this was charity.
It felt a little bit more like a shakedown.
I'm not going to deliver your food unless you pay me.
And so at some point, I was contacted, and Uber has a safety line, and I contacted them about the safety issue and said, hey, this is what's going on.
They didn't respond to me. And at some point, I asked them, hey, don them about the safety issue and said, hey, this is what's going on. They didn't respond to me.
And at some point, I asked him, hey, don't deliver the food. I don't
want it anymore. And then at some
hour later, he just happens to
show up where I was, and then
I was, at that point, I didn't feel safe.
And also, the food was
probably incredibly cold. And
after telling him not to come,
I felt that my food might have been tampered with.
So I didn't want the food to be delivered.
Anybody in my situation would have done so.
I think we have a lot of fake self-righteous people online
that are saying this was something
that they would have done ahead of time.
I don't believe it.
And also, Roland, we live in this Elon Musk Twitter.
A lot of people were really sympathetic
when I first posted this online.
But at some point, we had an army of trolls,
still an army of trolls, coming at me
and changing the narrative of the conversation.
And that's where disinformation is happening,
Elon Musk era,
is that the trolls are setting the conversation.
And that's when some people came in
and then responded to the trolls
because they felt like, oh, this is the winning argument.
So this is what I should support to join the herd in this conversation when that may be maybe not necessarily what they really believe or think about that particular issue.
So they could be on the right side of the issue. I am unmoved, Roland.
I'm definitely not letting somebody roll up at my crib with some cold food trying to get up on my house.
I'm sorry.
Well, and, and look, I mean, here's, I mean, here's a perfect example.
And so, and again, I know somebody might say, Roller you can't compare her to, but look, we,
we've done, we've done shoots. We've done, we've done events.
We've done custom content for folks like Coca-Cola and General Motors.
And guess what? We did some stuff for General Motors in November and December.
We finished in February. The check is arriving today. There's some other people, because there's some other clients,
they pay 90-day term. Look, I have a business. I actually pay my freelancers a lot faster than a
lot of other people do. A lot of times, I mean, I can tell you, I've had some freelance gigs where you do the work
and you don't get paid for 30 to 45 days.
And so you've had people attacking you saying,
or you're wrong because you don't understand
how Uber pays these people.
And a lot of people don't have the money to pay.
But people have to understand,
there's a reality to having a business.
And I can tell you that me, what happens is when we do something, my expenses are in.
Look, if we're doing a shoot in Essence, last year we did one in Essence, guess what?
I had to pay for the hotel rooms.
It was $40,000.
I had to pay for flights. I had to pay for the hotel rooms. It was $40,000. I had to pay for flights.
I had to pay per diem.
I had to pay the crew we brought down there.
The check didn't come for 120 days.
So I understand what that is like, but that's actually what it means when you're in business. It's not set up for me to say,
hey, client, I need you to actually send me the money before I do the work so I can then do the
work. That's just not how it works. It's not how it works, Roland, and no one should be extorted
for their food. And I think that
there's so much standing of corporations
of people in this country.
This is the same
group. We'll
say, hey, we can bail out corporations,
we can bail out banks, but then when
it's time for people to get a bailout on their student
loans or extended SNAP benefits,
now people have a problem.
We worship the rich and the powerful
in this country. And then we look down
on people that they don't
have much. So I think it's
really interesting that people came at me,
criticized me for being classist and elitist.
Look at the corporation.
Look at the policies they would have
that would put someone in a position that they don't have
money for gas. And then trying to pass that
on to me when I'm just trying to get some breakfast.
You know, I'm going to go to my panel here, and I'm going to start with you, Julian.
What's been interesting to me, I don't know how y'all feel about this here,
but have y'all noticed that now you go to a lot of places and you go to the counter and you order your food and there are people now expecting you to tip?
And all you did was play.
And, again, let me be clear.
Look, my grandmother had a catering business.
I started when I was 7 to stop when I was 30.
I worked at Wendy's when I was in college. So I understand the whole,
you know, working in fast food restaurants, stuff like that. But it's gotten to the point where
like there are some people who literally expect you to tip them and you the one did all the work.
Hello. You know, I'm a labor economist, and of course, you know,
I'm on the side of workers at all times.
At the same time, I'm a realist and a consumer,
and some of this stuff is nonsense.
I don't know if the brother heard me laughing
while he was talking about this,
because it's absurd that someone should ask
for the money up front.
But let me tell you what happened to me last month.
I had to go to Baltimore to come back to Dulles Airport.
The sister said, do you mind me stopping to get gas?
Of course, I'm trying to be reasonable.
I said, no.
Do you know that because of the waiting time for her to get the gas and then go into the place and pick her up some snacks, it was $45 more than they initially quoted.
And so that's called oppression pass along.
You know, people are passing this stuff along. I was on a plane where they bought some chips and something, and they had, it was $3.50 or $4, and they had things tipped.
I am not tipping airline stewardesses.
I'm sorry.
It just ain't happening.
It's absurd.
It's exploitation.
I have much sympathy for the workers, much sympathy for the workers.
But the one you should be mad at is not the brother who wouldn't give you gas money.
You should be mad at the folks that you are working for.
Like he said, all he wanted was some hot breakfast.
And as he said, when they left it on the sidewalk like that, we know that it was cold.
So he wouldn't get what he paid for anyway.
Yesterday, Lyft, it wasn't Lyft, it was Amazon, shorted me half of my order.
So I got pork chops, which as you know, Ro, I do not eat pork chops.
I got stuff that I didn't order, and I had to fight with them for one hour to get my refund for the food I wanted.
And it's like, and the woman was like, well, we give you a $5 credit.
I was like, oh, hell no, you're going to give me more than that.
And they did.
But the point is that somehow workers are
feeling beleaguered. We're feeling
beleaguered, but the capitalists
are making the money. And this
brother was absolutely right.
Brother man,
you know, and anybody who's mad at you,
you know, I don't use, I try not
to use profanity on this program,
that there's a word that begins with F
that they really ought to look at.
You know,
Resee,
let me just put a little twist on this.
So imagine
you order a pizza
from Pizza Hut or Domino's
and the Domino's
or the Pizza Hut driver say,
hey, I ain't bringing your pizza
unless you send me some gas.
And you're like, don't your ass work for Pizza Hut or Domino's?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
This could be a card in my next edition of my Am I Trippinggame.com if y'all want to cop that uh but honestly this is
why i don't do the food delivery stuff because every time something goes viral it's a mess
attached to it you know you have drivers complaining about their low wages you have people
complaining about their bad experiences i'd rather just go get my food myself i like my food hot i
will eat my food in the car. I got
a little, a little dinner tray, which I put my food on top of, and I will enjoy my food that I
picked up myself right there. And I ain't got to worry about nobody being crazy, but I do feel
sympathy for you, Xavier, because they were a pile on. And I a hundred percent agree with you in
terms of this disinformation and these manufactured viral moments where people
start to pile on because now they think that all of these inauthentic accounts saying negative
things is the way to go. That's the opinion I need to jump on. So, I mean, I think you did the
right thing by at least not eating the food because I wouldn't want nobody's food after I've been arguing with somebody for 30 minutes. You know, Greg, one of the things that is in many ways with stuff like this here,
I'm real old school. I am. So, you know, we do a lot of traveling when it comes to the show.
And Anthony, who's directing, his ass is the king of his ass.
Uber Eats, DoorDash, if there's a food delivery service, I know he got the app.
And so, matter of fact, we were here we were here we we were here in atlanta
in 2020 uh and we had rented an airbnb and so we had all our equipment there we stayed there
you know and they got a kitchen so everything kept ordering i'm like man you better get your
ass in that kitchen and cook something uh i'm like because and and see when i'm also old school
one of the reasons why i i also want to go pick my food up because I'm not about to sit here and order and then wait another 45, 50 minutes for people to deliver it.
But the flip side is that a lot of these restaurants are getting screwed by these same companies when it comes to that.
And so I would rather order from the restaurant and go pick up the food myself to ensure that company gets the total amount of money they're supposed to get.
Absolutely, Roland.
I mean, Brother Pope, I sympathize with you because I don't know what I would have done.
I, too, like Roland, I'm an alum of Wendy's.
I worked Wendy's in high school, then Arby's.
And I'm from Nashville, so any of y'all know Crystal's, y'all know my undergraduate job.
I worked a graveyard shift, 10 p.m. to 6 a.m.
I'm always going to side with the workers.
If you go into Panera or the grocery store or anywhere and you see folk lined up with their phones in their hands trying to grab food and get it to you as soon as possible, this is basically, it ain't slave labor.
I would not compare anything to slavery, nothing comparable to slavery, but this is capitalism.
I keep probably about 10 singles in my back pocket when I leave out the house, because
invariably I see people at the entrances to places asking for money.
And any time, you know, maybe it's a scam, maybe it's a nut, but what's a dollar to me?
What's a dollar to somebody else?
And I always buy the paper Street Sense, which is sold here in Baltimore and D.C. for the unhoused.
Because when you are at the most precarious end of society, that is indefensible.
And I tell you, poverty should enrage all of us.
And so, yeah, I use Uber Eats sparingly because, you know, it's so funny.
And Reesey Boss Baby, I guess, is born digital.
But can you imagine if we had these apps when we were children?
My mother and father probably would have put us out the house because people showing up at the house with food.
And what the hell happened?
I mean, y'all know children.
Hey, hey, hey, Greg, Greg, that ain't got nothing to do with growing up.
My nieces, my nieces, my dad was like, yo, hey, who the hell at the door?
That's what I'm saying.
That ain't growing up.
That was last week.
Listen, look, I did the same thing.
I did the same thing.
My nieces, I was like, who the hell at my damn?
And look, I got the ring.
And so, man, my nieces come down and I was like, hey,
where y'all asses going? Because see, also
see, we real black and I
know every black person on this
set identified. Tell me
if I'm wrong here
if in your house
no damn kids
18 or under,
your ass was not supposed to
open that damn door.
Mm-hmm.
You talk about a bug with it.
If you open a door
without her permission,
you'll be missing part of your
hind part.
But more than that, she had a whole thing about ordering
food.
I know a lot of cops,
and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to
shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future
where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company
dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
This is Absolute Season 1.
Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
It's really, really, really bad.
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated,
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg.
And this is season two of the war on drugs.
We are back in a big way,
in a very big way,
real people,
real perspectives.
This is kind of star studded a little bit,
man.
We got a Ricky Williams,
NFL player,
Heisman Trophy winner.
It's just a compassionate choice
to allow players all reasonable means
to care for themselves.
Music stars Marcus King,
John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
We have this misunderstanding
of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Benny the Butcher.
Brent Smith from Shinedown.
We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Marine Corvette.
MMA fighter Liz Caramouch.
What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.
Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
It makes it real.
It really does.
It makes it real.
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and the Ad Council. See, Greg, so Xavier, I got to ask you this.
So has this whole situation, has this led to you take your ass to your kitchen and learn to cook some breakfast?
Well, today's show is covered by vegan cooking, Roland.
So I cook all the time.
I show that on the Pope's Vegan Kitchen.
That's been popular online.
And so that's something I've always done.
I mean, a lot of my videos on my food were viral over the course of the pandemic.
So I'm used to cooking for myself.
I love to cook.
It just so happened to be I just wanted somebody to deliver my food.
And every now and then, you don't necessarily feel like cooking.
Now, did I actually have to wind up cooking after not getting my food?
Yeah, I did wind up cooking, but everybody don't always feel like cooking.
Hey, Roland, now, Roland, you remember back on Sundays
when your mama didn't feel like cooking,
when everybody would roll up to churches, churches come around,
like all those chicken places, all those places stayed in business on Sundays because folks did not feel like cooking on Sundays.
See, Xavier, you got the wrong brother.
Because, see, you got to understand, in my family, all the men cooked.
See, so, as a matter of fact, I don't even recall my mama cooking on Sundays.
Now, she may have cooked other days, but my daddy can cook.
I learned, I started baking at 7, cooking at 8.
So, and then every Sunday, we lived eight blocks from my grandparents, so we were at that house as well.
We didn't order a damn thing on Sundays.
Now, other nights, that may be in the case, but again,
the bottom line is, but
as you said, we went and picked that food up.
We wasn't paying for the gas for the Popeye's
driver.
That's right.
I'm going to start making my own groceries.
I'm going to stop doing the app,
start making my own groceries after this last little
experience. Like, this is a message from the
Lord. Take your Heimkamp to the grocery store, your damn self.
Well, and I will button this up with this here.
Again, what this whole thing has shown, though,
it has shown, as y'all have been talking about,
capitalistic system, when it's those companies that are making the profits.
That's why there are a lot of restaurants that refuse, that a lot of restaurants refuse to even
be a part of a lot of these systems because they're not making enough. I know some restaurants
that say, man, we're losing money on this. And so they say, we're the ones with the food.
Why are we going to sit here and lose money by hooking up with these folks here?
So this is what we're dealing with now.
So, Xavier, hopefully more folk side with you on this
and understand the reality of, like, yeah,
I'm not about to send you some money to get some gas.
And especially, here's the other deal.
Hell, you can send the money,
then they can hit cancel.
There you go.
Absolutely.
There you go, Roland.
Bing, bing.
Hey, my opinion may not necessarily
always be popular, Roland,
but I'm always going to come for what's right.
And I'm going to stick to my guns.
When you order Uber Eats, tip your Uber.
I understand.
I understand.
Yeah, absolutely.
Greg, you're absolutely right.
If you order Uber Eats or DoorDash or one of those, tip your driver.
Absolutely.
But let me be real clear.
I'm going to be real clear to all y'all people at that register. If I
walk my ass to the counter
and order some food
and I gotta stand there to
wait for my food, I ain't
paying no damn tip.
I don't pay any tip if you
served me. The
purpose of a tip is
you actually did some work.
Just punching the order, that ain't no work.
And the new regs, and let me just go ahead,
and first of all, let me do this here.
Let me just go ahead and say this last point,
because this bullshit is getting on my nerves, okay?
How the hell we went?
It used to be 15%.
Mm-hmm.
How we go to 18?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
In some places, they done skipped 18.
Yeah.
I went to a place, that shit said 20, 22, 25.
All right.
Watch your damn mind.
Somebody got to pay the military industrial complex.
There was a story in today's Financial Times.
Amazon workers
who are remote, who don't want to
come back, the white-collar workers
are saying that they're going to do
some labor actions in solidarity.
And what Amazon is trying to do
is separate them from the people in the warehouses and the people who can't work from home.
But the people who can't work from home said, no, we are standing with them. Even though they can
work from home and we can't, ultimately, we're all labor. The reason they're going up on them
tips is because these places are making record profits, and they are making those record profits out of
labor. They're making record
profits by suppressing wages.
They're suppressing wages,
and the only way people are
trying to get their money is
by asking for tips. But we
should not incur. First of all, the whole tipping system,
as all y'all know, is based
on enslavement and
ways that people, the tip was optional,
but you didn't get paid.
That's the basis of the tipping system.
So we understand exploitation basically derives
off our exploitation and we need to stand up against that.
We just need to stand up against it.
I have sympathy, enormous sympathy for working people
tipping 20-25%
bluff the dumb shit.
Oh gee, I said I wasn't going to curse.
And here's the whole deal. Pay
folk, pay folk, pay folk right
and then just put it into the price
but that's how silly
how the silliest thing go and then you
don't even know if you get a tip, it's actually
going to them or it's
a little system there. Alright, Xavier, I appreciate it, man.
Thank you so very much.
Get your ass in that kitchen.
Right on it, Mark.
All right, y'all, go on to a break.
We'll be back.
Rolling Martin on the filter on the Black Star Network.
Thank you.
Hatred on the streets.
A horrific scene.
A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly
violence white people are losing their damn minds there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s
capital we're about to see the rise of what i call white minority resistance we have seen
white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result
of violent denial.
This is part of American history.
Every time that people of color have made progress,
whether real or symbolic,
there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University
calls white rage as a backlash.
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All momentum we have now, we have to keep this going.
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has filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the city of Rochester, the fire department,
and its former captain, Jeffrey Crywee.
Jones, a 15-year veteran of the police department,
claiming he was forced to attend a Juneteenth party last year
that featured racist tropes, witness harassment, and bias directed at himself
and his fellow black co-workers and saw firefighters disregard the property of black residents.
Jones initially filed a legal complaint with the state Supreme Court
following the Juneteenth party on July 7th.
The federal lawsuit seeks unspecified damages and calls for changes in the department's policies and practices to prevent discrimination.
I'm confused here, Recy.
The white folks made the black folks forced to attend a Juneteenth party?
Well, I mean, I don't know what the hell is going on. That sounds very strange, but a Juneteenth party is what they chose to be funky and do vandalism, I guess, to black people's stuff.
Y'all couldn't do that on Fourth of July, on Cinco de Mayo or St. Patrick's Day.
Why'd y'all have to pick the Black Holiday to act a plump fool?
That's just crazy.
Pay him the money.
I don't know how much he's doing for for, but give him every last dime of it.
Here's the other deal. Here's the other deal for me,
Julianne.
If there's any
holiday party,
I'm not going to let
somebody show their ass.
It's going to be Juneteenth.
Yeah. Well, there you go.
I mean, I think that, you know, like you say all the time, Roland,
white people have lost their you-know-what minds.
They truly have.
What gave them permission to think that on Juneteenth they could clown?
So right on to the brother, sue them for everything they got,
and get a couple people fired while you're at it.
Our people are just basically getting dumped on all over the place.
And in the name of whatever, go along and get along, some people think we ought to take it.
I'd love to see your Twitter feed sometime because, you know, you've got a whole bunch of these incognitos who expect that we're supposed to take this nonsense.
And we are not.
So right on to the brother.
And, you know, we're coming up on Juneteenth.
So people, hold we are not. So right on to the brother, and you know, we're coming up on Juneteenth, so people, hold to your principles. Juneteenth is about the belated notification that enslavement had ended. It is now a national holiday. In the state of California, it's a holiday.
I'm sure it's not one in the state of Mississippi, but stand your ground and do not let white people take this over. Have your own Juneteenth celebration.
You know, Greg, Seth the Entertainer had a certain bit when he said,
I wish they would.
I'm just saying.
I'm just letting anybody know.
One, I ain't taking no stuff off of nobody on any day.
Pick anyone on 365.
But if there's one day I damn sure know you ain't going to act a fool
and have practice with discrimination, it's damn sure going to be Juneteenth.
There you go.
I'm very happy that this is a federal holiday because this is one that they can't swallow.
This is about humiliation.
This is about attempting to humiliate black people.
And how we respond dictates the terms of what happens.
A hundred years ago today was the funeral of now Brigadier General Charles Young here in Washington, D.C.
I actually went out to Arlington Cemetery today to hear and ate at Young's grave.
Charles Young was retired by the United States military at the behest of President Racist
Woodrow Wilson during World War I because they did not want him to become a general.
Now, of course, he ended up mentoring Benjamin Davis, Sr. And Benjamin Davis, Jr., graduated
from West Point, the first black person to do that since Charles Young graduated in the
19th century. Charles Young got on his horse in Wilberforce, Ohio, where he was a professor at
the time, and rode that horse to Washington, D.C., to make the point, because they said,
oh, he's got high blood pressure, he's not fit. I'm bringing all this up for a reason.
They unretired him after World War I and sent him to Liberia. Then he went to Nigeria. He was
working on a book, and he got sick and made transition.
W.E.B. Du Bois, his very close friend,
said, y'all killed Charles Young
and you attempted to humiliate Charles Young
who did his duty. He was a
leader to Buffalo Soldiers, all this stuff.
I'm bringing all this up because this is about
humiliation. And the Black
community was so enraged in how
Charles Young was treated that we didn't take it
lying down. And Charles Young became the fourth human being to be funeralized at Arlington at the
big gathering spot there. The third person was the so-called unknown soldier.
I'm raising this because if you don't take it, these crackers back up.
This brother went to a party. They had a cutout of Donald Trump, and then they had two big Juneteenth
flags with buckets of Kentucky
fried chicken in front of
them. They lucky he didn't rip
their asses. It's one thing
to be in
and get a lawsuit. Like Reese said, get
all your money, brother. But when you show up
and then his commander said,
this ain't a private event, and I want everybody here in uniform.
The point they were trying to make is, these white boys make is,
we want to humiliate you in front of your people.
And the humiliation is the point.
The only way they're going to stop this is when we stop them.
Y'all stop trying to make peace with these people.
You stop trying to make peace with these people.
Learn a lesson from this.
You show up and there's a team flag and two buckets of chicken.
I'm like, oh, this is great.
Give me this chicken. What you going to do?
I'm going to make you eat it, bro. You scared
now, ain't you? You scared now, ain't you?
You scared now, ain't you? Put that chicken in
they mouth, boy.
Yeah, anyway, but this is the great
holiday because it's going to be more of this come up.
Trust me. On Juneteenth,
we're going to dance on Juneteenth.
And I'm going to say
this again. I'm going to say this again. We're going to have the graphics. We're going to dance. And I'm going to say this again.
I'm going to say this again.
We're going to have the graphics.
We're going to have the graphics soon.
So, folks, on June 17th in Houston at the Power Center from 12 to 4 p.m.,
we're going to have our event dealing with our Juneteenth 2023 event dealing with black economic freedom.
And we're also going to make a major announcement about Juneteenth with Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner.
So you want to come to the Power Center from 12 to 4 p.m. on June 17th.
But I'm going to say this before I go to break.
I need I need all black folks who are watching.
I need y'all to understand if y'all need lessons on how to have Juneteenth events, come talk to those of us in Texas.
OK, no question, because Juneteenth was never about partying.
Yes, we had concerts. Yes, we had picnics. Yes, we had barbecues.
Yes, we had events. But Juneteenth, when it's been celebrated in Texas, it was
always about freedom.
And so we had voter registration.
We talked about how we utilize black businesses.
And so
I need folk to understand
stop looking for
a reason to have a party.
Don't let nobody
non-black
lead Juneteenth events,
and it's not about freedom.
It ain't about unity.
It ain't about togetherness.
It ain't about let's all get along.
Juneteenth, listen to me clearly,
has always been about freedom for black people.
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What you doing, man?
You got to stay on stage.
And I was like, yeah, well, I'm good.
You know, y'all think I'm good.
And he was absolutely right.
What show was the other time?
This was one-on-one.
Got it. During that time. So you're was one-on-one. Got it. During that time.
And I was- So you're doing one-on-one.
Yeah. Going great.
Yeah. You making money.
You like-
I'm like, I don't need to leave.
I don't need to leave from, you know,
Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday.
I, you know, I just didn't want to do that.
You know, it was just like, I'm gonna stay here.
Oh, I didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out,
go do a gig Saturday, Sunday.
I was like, I don't have to do that.
And I lost a little bit of that hunger that I had in New York.
I would hit all the clubs and run around.
I'd, you know, sometimes me and Chappelle or me and this one or that one.
We'd go to the Comedy Cellar at one in the morning.
I mean, that was our life.
We loved it.
You know, you do two shows in Manhattan.
Go to Brooklyn.
Leave Brooklyn. Go to Queens. Go to Jersey. And I kind of just, I got complacent. I was like, I got this money,
I'm good. I don't need to go. I don't need to go chase that because that money wasn't at the same
level that I was making. But what I was missing was that training. Yes. Was that, was that. And
it wasn't the money. It was the money. You know, it was that it was of the money it was the money you know it was that that's what I need.
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Lord, y'all, these crazy white folks, now they mad at Chick-fil-A.
Now they've been upset with Target about LGBTQ stuff.
They mad at Bud Light because they sent a transgender a can with a photo on it. Now they are calling for the
cancellation of Chick-fil-A, the beloved
Chick-fil-A, the Christian conservative Chick-fil-A
because they have a DEI page.
Now, I told y'all when I wrote my book
White Fear that this whole thing was not about schools and critical race theory.
No, they want to go after everything.
And do y'all have the video of my man, Kathy?
The video when he was at the token black woman, and I'm saying that for a reason on Fox's outnumbered.
She had the audacity to blast him by saying that his comments were wrong and how ridiculous he was for what he said about whites and African-Americans.
Watch this, y'all.
It's here, but a story that was shared with me by a dear friend who shared with me about a revival
that was taking place at a church in Texas.
And at that revival, on the front seat
was an older African American young,
older African American man that was sitting there.
And this young man got up that was there in that
service. And he'd been so gripped with conviction about the racism that was in that local community
in a small town in Texas that he took a shoe brush and he walked over to this elderly gentleman, and he knelt on his knees and began to shine his shoes.
And tears began to flow in that service.
It was an attitude of conviction.
So I invite folks just to put some words to action here.
And if we need to find somebody that needs to have their shoes shined, we need to just go right on over and shine their shoes.
And whether they got tennis shoes on or not,
maybe they got sandals on, it really doesn't matter.
But there's a time in which we need to have, you know,
some personal action here.
Maybe we need to give them a hug too, brother.
And some stock in Chick-fil-A.
But I bought about 1,500 of these, and I gave it to all our Chick-fil-A operators and staff a number of years ago.
And so any expressions of a contrite heart, of a sense of humility, a sense of shame, a sense of embarrassment,
begin with an apologetic heart.
I think that's.
So here's two things.
So these folks, Recy, they're mad about the DEI piece.
But again, again, Harris-Faulkner had an attitude, just couldn't believe that he said those things.
And I'm like, y'all so-called Christians, if they actually listened to what the man said, he was talking about racism. He was talking about what he was describing was no different than Jesus washing the feet.
See, they don't want to deal with that. So they mad what he had to say,
but they ain't mad at the racism,
just like Mike Pence is demanding the Dodgers apologize
for inviting an organization
that's been on the forefront of fighting AIDS
to a pride event
because they felt that they are mocking Catholics
when Mike Pence ain't said nothing
about the report out of
Maryland and Illinois showing
how the Catholic Church covered up
widespread abuse of
their priests.
This is
all unhinged on
everybody's behalf. Black
people are not asking for white people to
shine their shoes, sneakers, sandals,
feet, none of that shit. Like the man said,
give me some Chick-fil-A stock if you want to
be helpful, if you want to be contrite.
That could be my reparations, not you shining
my shoes. So I just think that
this is a war that white people are having with
themselves because
black people ain't really too hung up
on this DEI stuff. First of all, most of the DEI
jobs are going to white women anyway. They're not
going to black people. And then when the black people get in the rows. First of all, most of the DEI jobs are going to white women anyway. They're not even going to black people. And then when the black people
get in the roads... First of all,
75, 75%
of DEI jobs
are held by white people.
Exactly!
So they really just beefing with each other
at this point because we ain't even
really in it. We ain't even really in the situation.
You know, we benefit marginally
from it. And so this is as far as I'm concerned, white on white crime. You know, we benefit marginally from it. And so this is, as far
as I'm concerned, white-on-white crime.
You know, if y'all want to find something to be
fake mad about, and y'all want to be mad
at the white man for shining the shoes, even
though he's the CEO, the white man is not gonna
pay nobody extra money. They're not gonna give
a black extra benefit.
He's not giving you Juneteenth
off. So, in reality,
it's nothing more than an empty gesture.
It's weird.
And, I mean, if he wants to humiliate himself
under the guise or the weird thought
that he's showing contrition to Black people,
then let him do it.
Maybe he gets his rocks off touching people's feet.
I don't know.
But I think you should ask Black people
before you bow down and get anywhere near our pictures. You might get kicked in the face
doing that with a random black person
on the street. Please get permission to touch people,
white people, if you're trying to take cues
from Chick-fil-A.
The thing here, Julianne,
the thing here, Julianne,
is I understand
what Dan Cathy was saying,
but the point here that I think is really important is that the same folk who loved Chick-fil-A before,
don't you find it interesting that now they're mad when he's talking about how we need to be contrite about racism?
See, again, that's what
they're mad about. They're mad
about the DEI piece
because they've had a DEI
officer. He's been there two years.
How dare you? And see, the thing
that I need people to understand,
Julian, and I call
this whole thing,
they were not just focused
on schools. They want to go after
every diversity, equity, inclusion, multicultural, you name it, in corporate America, because they
want complete, total power and control and do not want to see any level of advancement by black folks and other people of color?
First of all, I want to reaffirm what she said. Watch out before you touch somebody.
I mean, these people crazy. Do not put your hands on me. They ain't going to turn out right.
But the theme, Roland, is erasure. They want to erase race, erase difference, act as if nothing has happened.
This CEO, he's a little misguided, and I should not be giving people brushes and telling them to shine people's shoes.
Like the brother said, just give me some stock in Chick-fil-A.
You know, where are my reparations?
This symbolic BS is what white people have done since the end of enslavement. And for about a rich 12 years post-Reconstruction, there were some movements towards equity.
But you know what has happened since then?
We have only 10 percent of the land that we had in 1880.
We gained land, and then they kept taking it, taking it, taking it, taking it.
And that's a story that they don't want to have told.
And so at the end of the day, all the symbolic BS is just that it's symbolic.
The real issue is economics.
How many black people have a particular—
No, no, no, no, no, no.
See, I think I'm telling you, I get your point about the symbolic.
But again, that's not what I think is the big issue here.
Follow me here.
I think what's the big, what I'm loving watching just unfold is that these so-called Christians are now, follow me here.
Again, forget, the posture of the shoe ain't the issue. The so-called Christians are angry that one of their most ardent supporters is talking about being contrite about racism.
So there.
So see, again, though, though see i don't want us to get caught up in don't tuck
my feet don't shine now this ain't about a literal shining shoes they are they mad about that
they're mad that when he's talking about diversity equity inclusion they are saying how dare you
and so what they are saying, how dare you?
And so what they are doing is, and I need
everybody to understand what is happening here.
They are about to go
after
every single
corporation.
Yes. Listen to me.
They are going to go
after corporations
that support HBCUs.
I'm trying to, I want us to expand this.
We are seeing it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But what I'm saying is I don't want us,
I'm not tripping on Dan and the shoeshine.
I'm looking at their reaction to Dan speaking against racism
and they mad that he did
using the example
that he cited
Julian finish your point that I'm going to grip
well the point is erasure
it's erasure they want to erase the past
they want to
if you talk back about any of this stuff
we hate America
no we don't hate America
we effing built America so it's not our. It's the fact that we will not be erased. You have those
white boys in Charlottesville, Virginia saying we would not be overtaken or whatever. We black
people who built this country will not be erased. That's just it. See, Greg, again, as I'm looking at this
and in fact there was a
there was some folks they were pushing
they were pushing Kellogg's
they were pushing Kellogg's
to stop their DEI initiative
and so what you're seeing is,
what you're seeing is you're going to see,
you're going to see these folk,
you're going to see these,
in fact,
Kellogg announced gains at DEI goals,
including a management level.
What you're going to see,
Greg,
and y'all can write this down,
everybody who's watching and listening,
you're about to see these critics,
they're going to attack any initiative
where a corporation,
anything dealing with social justice,
anything dealing with race,
anything dealing with black folks,
anything dealing with equity, and they're not going to stop.
And they're gaining.
So they knocked off $10 billion of market cap for Target opposing the LGBTQ stuff in the store. They've knocked off $27 billion in market cap of Anheuser-Busch
because of the Bud Light. So what I hope black folks who are watching
is what they are doing is using the same Operation Breadbasket strategy
and now forcing these companies to now they want them to reconsider
their actions and don't be surprised when there's something that we like that folks have been
support they come after we better be real smart and careful and watch what they're doing greg
because they're coming. Absolutely.
And they're going to be relentless in coming after us.
Absolutely.
It'd be very nice if we would be smart, but the American Negro doesn't really have a track record of that in mass.
Well, first of all, I'm reminded of the joke Richard Pryor used to tell.
He said, don't you hate it when somebody interviews black people and they say, why don't they ever talk about us?
We fought the Indians.
And then Richard Pryor is like, shut up, boo. Shut you hate it when somebody interviews black people and they say, why don't they ever talk about us? We fought the Indians. And then Richard Pryor is like, shut up,
you want the Indians mad at us too?
First of all, we built this country. This is a
settler enterprise.
I don't want no damn credit for displacing
the aboriginals of this country. Like, that's a point of damn
pride. They snatched us here to
dispossess other people. Now, how does
that tie the Chick-fil-A? This man's a Christian
nationalist. He's on the home team.
Remember, the people who are maddest at Castro,
and they are almost all dead now,
in South Florida,
they mad at him because he put them out of Cuba
in 1959-60 because Castro was one of them.
He was one of the white elites.
They turned on them first.
So they was like, man, you were supposed to be with us.
This boy Chick-fil-A is the home team.
That's why the brother was like, yeah, or reparations.
And he went like this, like, I see what you're doing.
I see what you did there.
Them low-wage workers at Chick-fil-A, he ain't going to give them no raise and nothing like that.
But he's an onward Christian soldier, Trump-supporting, propping up the white Christian nationals.
And you're absolutely right, Roland, they are turning on them. Why might that be a good thing, ultimately? You have walked us
through how many times how these DEIU things that they put in place three years ago when they thought
we was going to tear up the whole damn world and now are backtracking on have been deeply ineffective.
And if Kellogg's say they made progress, what does that mean? You hired two because you didn't have none? The point is that in this internecine conflict, it all is oriented around them preserving
this fascist, racist, white nationalism.
And if his response will be to back up off it, maybe mission accomplished.
If they knock off some market share, mission accomplished.
I'm going to tell you about the American Negro. You go to South Africa, KFC. You go to West
Africa, KFC. You go to Egypt, KFC. In other words, the Negro is brand loyal. Our political
consciousness is in, it ain't even in the toilet. It's on the ground outside the toilet.
The reason that man's family, the reason this man's family would starve if you waiting on Greg Carter to buy anything out of Chick-fil-A,
because I know the history of Chick-fil-A and its owners.
Remember last year, they tweeted out something, and again, the brand loyal Negro who will eat Chick-fil-A
until it's coming out of their eyes, said something like,
y'all got grilled spicy deluxe, but no spicy nuggets?
And Chick-fil-A tweeted back to this brother,
your community will be
the first to know if spicy items are added
to the permanent menu, Don.
Why my community? Because you
Negroes will burn down
our church to get to Chick-fil-A.
Until we develop
some sense of self-respect,
which is what I suspect y'all will be talking about at Juneteenth
in Texas
the third week of June,
we are going to be pawns in a game that we don't even know is going on.
But, hey, man, you'll starve before you get something from me from Chick-fil-A,
brother, because you can shine my shoes, but as the brother said,
what about that stock?
I see what you did there.
I see what you did there.
All right, y'all, hold tight.
I'm going to go to a quick break.
I'll be right back.
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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves.
We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers,
but we also have to learn to take care of ourselves.
A wrap-away, you've got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else,
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All right, folks, a store owner in South Carolina who shot and killed a black teenager on Sunday has had previous run-ins and fired shots at people who he thought were shoplifting.
Rick Chow, Express Mart Shell gas station owner, killed 14-year-old Cyrus Carmack Belton
after he chased him for wrongly accusing him of shoplifting.
He shot him in the back.
Well, reports indicate police received numerous calls about trouble at the Express March Shell gas station.
Chow had confrontations with customers in 2015 and 2018.
In one incident in 2015, he fired six times at a car after he tried to stop someone he suspected of shoplifting beer. And a second incident took place in 2018 when he fired two shots at a man accused of stealing
easy off.
The Richland County Sheriff's Department said the incidents did not meet the requirements
under South Carolina law to support a criminal charges because authorities determined he
wasn't the instigator in either incident.
Child was arrested and charged with murder.
He remains in jail and is awaiting a
bond hearing. This right here, Greg, is the problem. He did it twice before you did nothing,
and he thought he could do it again. That's right, Roland. It's absolutely right. You know,
somebody was mentioning the other day Latasha Harlins. Remember her, the young lady who went
in the store in L.A. and the
owner, the Korean shop owner, shot her
in the head, in the back, over some orange
juice, was convicted by a jury,
and then the white woman judge gave her
probation. You see, when you encourage
this kind of thing, going back to
them deputies, them sheriff's
deputies there,
21 years old, 23 years
old, 24 years old, they've been initiated into
the idea that you can do whatever the hell you want to black people. You can put up buckets of
chicken in front of the Juneteenth flags. You can beat the shadow of them in a holding cell,
or you can just basically pop them. You know, what is the answer to this? You know, simply,
I mean, it just comes down to this. At some point, we have to have
self-respect. And this isn't about individuals, although it is also about individuals. We got to,
you know, be able to stand up as individuals. But we have to develop our collective strength.
Again, I'm very encouraged. I'm looking forward to see what this conversation is going to be down
there on Juneteenth, the thing that you're going to announce. Because until we come together and
build a collective strength,
then these kind of things will happen
because there's no penalty.
And people are taught that you can do whatever the hell you want
to Black people.
Yeah.
Recy.
Yeah, I mean,
the whole idea that you can just execute a person
for a bottle of water,
even if he had stolen it, which he hadn't, is outrageous.
But, you know, this is behavior that escalated.
It was behavior that was essentially condoned and not only condoned by the police officer, but condoned by the customers who believe that it's OK to continue to patronize a business where the store owner is violent and menacing towards the customers who they want to falsely accuse of stealing.
So shame on him, but also shame on the community who continue to give this business business, this person business, even after their pattern of very, very abusive and almost violent behavior.
And that right there, Julianne,
rewarding people who don't respect you.
This gas station should have been shut down,
should have been picketed.
It should have said,
don't y'all buy a damn thing from this fool.
No, this place needs to be shut down.
Anybody who goes there after this,
basically needs to be publicly flogged.
I mean, if you go to this place after this, you're basically saying it's OK to kill black people.
But this young man, boy, really, at 14, you know, basically there's no proof that he had a gun.
There's a whole bunch of Twitter feed about, well, but he had a gun.
It's not illegal for him to have a gun.
But look at that cute young man.
Look at that smile.
It breaks my heart that this man, his son is a liar.
His son is a liar.
He said the young man brandished a gun.
There's no proof of that.
I know they have security cameras.
What you have is permission to slaughter us in public.
Permission to slaughter us in public.
And this is just one of a series.
Greg Carr is right.
You know, if we don't do anything,
then we're telling people, go on and kill me, because I don't care. Kill my son, kill my babies,
kill my grandson, because I don't care. There has to be action. It has to be economic action.
And somebody needs to sue the mess out of this man. But not only that, the community needs to
rise up. And while I do not advocate violence, folks know what to do.
We did it in the 60s.
We did it in the 60s.
That's all I got to say.
Right.
Y'all laughing at me?
All right, folks.
I agree.
All right, folks.
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