#RolandMartinUnfiltered - US Ukraine Support, Jan 6th Transcripts, Status of Black Conservatives, Green Heffa Farms

Episode Date: December 23, 2022

12.22.2022 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: US Ukraine Support, Jan 6th Transcripts, Status of Black Conservatives, Green Heffa Farms Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky gave a historic address to U.S. lawmakers at the U.S. Capitol. We will have Malcolm Nance, Counterterrorism Expert and Author, here to explain the impact of this historic visit. The waiting game continues as the public waits on the final report from The J6 House committee. We will discuss what information has been released and break down the details. Today we hear the other side of the Louisiana grain case. We talk to Greenfield Construction LLC to listen to what they have to say about the hazards of their construction in a predominately black community. Black Conservatives are steadily growing in the U.S. among black men. To explain this new phenomenon and discuss the state of black conservatives, we will be talking to the president of the Black Conservative Federation. In our Market place segment, Green Heffa Farms founder Arenda "Farmer Cee" Stanley explains the importance of black farming. Support RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ [e-mail] Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? And on December 22nd, 2022, I'm attorney Robert Petillo sitting in for Roland Martin who was on vacation until January 3rd, 2023. Here's what's coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky delivered a historic address to a joint session of Congress yesterday, detailing his plans to fight back against Russian aggression.

We talked to counterterrorism expert just back from the fight in Ukraine, Malcolm Nance. Also, the January 6th committee still has us waiting. We are still awaiting the final report on what exactly the January 6th committee uncovered, not just on the actions of President Trump, but on the actions of members of his cabinet, members of Congress, and what we can do to stop this

from happening again in the future. We're gonna break that down with our panel in just a moment. Also, yesterday we brought you the case out of Louisiana of a grain company that sought to build a grain distribution facility in a historically black community. We're bringing you the other side of that story today,

speaking with Greenfield Construction, LLC, to hear their side of the story on why exactly this grain facility needs to go in this community. Also, black conservatives have been growing in recent years. We saw in 2020 President Trump getting nearly 20 percent of black male votes. We want to talk about what the plans are for the future of the black conservative movement with the president and founder of the black conservative federation mr dionte johnson also in the our market segment black heffa farms founder adrena farmer c stanley is here to explain the importance of black farming in the black community of course i've been working with black farmers the last few years with rainbow push coalition our black farmers coalition so it's crucial that we get this information out there

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He's funky, he's fresh, he's real The best you know, he's fresh, he's real, the best you know He's rolling, Martel Martel Now, of course, we've all been waiting over the past 18 months for the final report from the January 6th committee. Of course, we all saw what happened at the January 6th insurrection, the attempted overthrow of the United States government by the losing party in the election, something we've never seen in America. Those of us who watched it live could not believe that this was happening in America and not in some other country. But since that period of time, we've seen many on the political right try to turn this into just a protest at the Capitol, just some people who are walking around

doing tours, trying to downplay this. And we've even seen Congress people like Marjorie Taylor Greene insist that in order for Kevin McCarthy to become Speaker of the House, that they provide quote-unquote justice for the January 6th protesters, as they call them, saying that these people are being mistreated by law enforcement. We've even seen hashtags, say her name for Ashley Babbitt, the insurrectionist who was killed at the Capitol trying to break through a door and was heroically shot down before she could attack Congress people. But because of this, we need to find out why exactly have we not gotten this

hearing, gotten this information yet? What is it going to take and what are we going to find out? I want to bring our panel in early to talk about this. We're joined by Erica Savage, founder of the Reframed Brain, also Rishia Colbert, founder of the Black Women's View, and also Dr. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University, to discuss this. So, Dr. Carr, I want to start with you. Why do you think it's taking so long to get this report out from the January 6th committee, and what should we expect to come out when this information is released? Well, since we know the American public doesn't read, I don't expect that there will be much of a needle,

even with the 160-page preliminary report released, how many people have actually read it. There's the titillating stuff. I mean, something breaking today about Cassidy Hutchinson, the White House aide who was attempted to be strong-armed by a lawyer for Trump and so forth and so on. That'll be titillating. But I guess, you know, the reason that it's taking so long is because, you know, you've got to have some type of substantive momentum to get to the real issue, which is when that somebody's going to be prosecuted. So all eyes, as we've been saying now for the last couple of weeks, are going to turn to Jack Smith, the special counsel who's been appointed to oversee investigations for the Department of Justice. We'll see who gets

charged. We see that, you see that finally everything kind of focused around Trump. This preliminary report seems to indicate we didn't see Jenny Thomas brought up, for example. I don't know whether or not her friend Liz Cheney may have weighed in on that end, but it looks like it's focusing on Trump. So it could just be politics here. Stop the guy from running in 24, if you can. Well, Erica, on that point, you know, the January 6th committee was convened in order to find out exactly what happened. What were the security breakdowns that led to this taking place? We all saw video of Capitol Police officers opening gates to allow the protesters in. We all saw that this was organized. We need to find out, well, who paid

for all these people to come to the Capitol? We know hotels in the D.C. area are not exactly cheap. And to have these people come in from the rural areas of the country being bussed in, flown in, we thought the committee was going to get to the bottom of all that. But it seems to just be a question of getting Trump. Will the American people have any faith in the outcomes of this study, of this investigation, if it's only an indictment on Trump and not an explanation of the systemic failures that led to it? Yeah, good to see you again, Robert. Glad to be in your company once again. But I will say around this, I think that, you know, to Dr. Carr's point, you know, unless

it's really kind of like tightly into a certain number of characters, it really doesn't capture the public. One of the things that I was really intrigued by, of course, as all of us have been following this, is really the way that the right will definitely take hold of hashtags, words that we've used to really speak our pain and to make people get eyeballs on campaigns that are specific to Black people. And so when I heard that Say Your Name, like, that was trending, you know, I just received something from the African American Policy Institute specifically around celebrating the anniversary of Say Your Name, and then all of those mothers and family members alike who have been, you know, forever hurt because they've lost their child, their daughter, specifically due to gun violence on that police. So just wanted to kind of get that in to say that

I think that the public already has an idea of what happened on January 6th. We saw it before our own eyes. It was really good to see this summer that there were people that were interested in getting more details and actually engaging us a lot further into understanding what led up to that and then some of the things that happened after the attack. And the people that were affected, you know, right there in Georgia, Ms. Ruby Johnson and her daughter, Shay Moss, her name is a name that Ms. Johnson talked about. She is afraid to say her name in public because of all of the backlash that happened with the 2020 election deniers and their people being effectively targeted by the Trump administration. So all of that to really say, if Trump is one of the only names that we hear right now, we know that this is something that has been

happening for quite some time. He was the leader specifically of that. There were definitely people that were there to help. So I would just say, I mean, this is taking, it'll be now a year coming up to 20, two years now coming up to 2023. You know, for people to just understand the state that we're in, that we are definitely holding on to as much democracy as we possibly can. And I think the final report, we've already felt what it's like to have people that continually are hostile towards community, towards people having freedom. So I think what the report will

do is just memorialize what we already know and really, I hope, help motivate people to get more involved and engaged on voting, especially with the visit that I know we'll talk about here shortly from President Zelensky. Ukraine, they're fighting for their own land in the middle of a war right now. And, Recy, I wanted to kind of look at the other actors that we know were involved in January 6th that we really have heard no testimony about. Josh Hawley, the senator from Missouri, who spoke at the rally and was revving up the crowd, fist-bumping them. We haven't heard any investigation into exactly what his connection was and whether or not he will be charged for inciting the insurrection, as Trump has been.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, where we have video of her giving tours around the Capitol, the insurrection is while the Capitol was closed. But we haven't heard charges being brought against her for her role in the insurrection. We haven't found out just how deep this MAGA movement goes inside of the Capitol Police, inside of the National Guard, whether or not these people are effectively running a Vichy government. Do you think it's a mistake to simply focus on President Trump and not really dive into what's going on with the rest of these figures who are still going to be part of American politics? Well, I don't think that they simply focused on Trump. I think that the January 6th committee had a number of charges in order to clear up. Number one, the biggest charge was to refute the notion that the election was stolen. That was a huge thing that when they were convened back in June of 2021, there was still a lot of

election deniers and particularly coming from the Republican side about the legitimacy of the Biden-Harris administration. And so we see that they unequivocally moved the needle on that because every single election denier went down in flames this past midterms. And I don't think that that would have happened so forcefully and so thoroughly without the work of the January 6th committee. But I think that it was also important for the January 6th committee to establish that Trump, knowing that the election was legitimate and that he lost, still went on with a propaganda campaign, a disinformation campaign to try to hold on to power. And he had many allies in that fight. I don't think that the charge of the committee is to prosecute people. They have recommended Trump for charges, but they don't

have to prosecute every single player in this scheme to try to steal the administration, not the White House, but to try to steal a second term for Trump. So I think that they have accomplished their goal. Obviously, there are some people that are going to be dug in in their opinions about whether or not this was stolen, but I think they've done some really important work, and I don't think that they left much on the table. Well, just kind of as a response to that, I think that we're in a dangerous position when you have someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene from my state of Georgia, who is very clearly making it known that in order for Kevin McCarthy to be Speaker of the House, she said Kevin McCarthy is going to have to give her a significant amount of power. She's going to be probably

the chairman of a committee. She'll be able to convene hearings, drag people before Congress. She'll have subpoena power, et cetera. Do you think it was a mistake allowing these people to still be part of our government, knowing what they did on January 6th and not prosecuting them? Hell yeah, it was a mistake. But guess what? She got reelected. So we still have what we call a democracy. And at the end of the day, she got reelected in red Georgia up against a very capable

and credentialed opponent, Marcus Flowers. So, you know, that's what the people chose. And at the end of the day, the Republicans are going to be a shit show circus with or without Marjorie Taylor Greene. They have a basket of deplorables in the House that are unserious about legislating. They already telegraphed that they're going to shut down the government. They're going to have these circus of hearings. And so she's just one more clown in the Republican circus. And I think that she gets a lot more credit than what

she deserves, because if she wasn't in the backwoods of Georgia, nobody would even see her in Congress. And there are other scandalous people out there, too. So I think Marjorie Taylor Greene, she can huff and puff and blow your house down. But at the end of the day, the Republicans really aren't going to get much done with the Democratic Senate and a Democratic president. And Erica, on that point, we're seeing a schism taking place even in the MAGA movement of the Republican Party, where you have Marjorie Taylor Greene, who supported McCarthy, then you have Lauren Boebert, and them two are going back and forth in a trailer park battle that you usually see on the Jerry Springer show. You know,

you've got McConnell in the Senate supporting the $1.7 trillion budget. Then you have the more far right-wing people like Rand Paul being against that. What are our chances of actually being able to govern while we still have all these insurrectionists in the Congress? We can see the Republican Party starting to cannibalize itself from the inside out. Yeah, all those things are very true. But this takes me back to 2010, I think it was, and that was the advent of the Tea Party. We have seen this sorry ass power grabbing, I love my skin color bullshit before. And I think that this really underscores Terese's point of everything she says, the demand that it places on the vote. Because when you look inside of Congress, when you look

inside to see, you know, those 435 members that have to go up for election every two years. So they're pretty much actively campaigning. She is campaigning about who she is. Not much is going to change. The response is then what do we do about that? Because all of the things that you name, Congress has the power of the purse. So you mean to tell me in the culture of get your bag, you're going to let somebody steal your bag. All of that to say, this is why we spend so much time on this platform, really talking about the importance of being involved in your local, state, and your federal elections. But most importantly,

get involved in what's happening in your neighborhood. When you have people, like Recy brought up, you had a great candidate, Marcus Flowers. Marcus Flowers had, he laid out who he was, who he wasn't, what effectively he wanted to do for the state, things that he saw with Marjorie Greene Taylor. He said, you know, time's up for that. But people didn't show up in a way that actually echoed to say that this is, we're actually on the side of democracy. So, you know, to the point that we're all raising this again is why it is important to know what is happening in your community so that when we get people like this that do decide that they want to go and run around Washington, D.C., that they claim to hate so much, but they love being here so much at the same time, that then that is our then toolkit to say, well, no, they have people that are funding their wildness because it works for them. What are we doing in response to that besides getting on social media and complaining about it, having hot takes about it? We have to be actively involved and engaged in ensuring that people like this don't continue to run amok in a place that we effectively pay their salaries.

You know, I think my fear is that if this committee is just about Trump and people seeing it as a question of getting Trump, if you put Trump in jail, he becomes that martyr-type figure. And if we don't go into who paid for all these people to be here, who organized it, who got the permits, who was working with the Capitol Police, what members of Congress were involved, that this will become the new normal, that this will become how every election is settled. There was a point in time where we were used to candidates conceding after races. That's a thing of the past now. There was a point in time where people come together for that first hundred days or that first hundred years of administration and try to push through an American agenda. That doesn't happen anymore. There was a point in time where they would say, well, the president gets their

Supreme Court justices. They get their cabinet picks. That doesn't happen anymore. I'm afraid this becomes the new normal if we don't root this out. And that's one of the dangers of the January 6th committee. If we do, if it's simply a question of Trump, Trump is a figurehead of this movement. These people existed before Trump. They'll exist after Trump. So we have to ensure that we are detailing this because even a candidate like Hershel Walker lost by 1.5 points. Dr. Oz lost by two points. Carrie Lake lost by a point and a half. And Arizona. So it's not that this is a landslide against them. There's still a big portion of the country that agrees with this way of thinking. We're going to go to a quick break.

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Of course, we want to be fair and balanced and get both sides of the story on this case. So we're joined now by Carl Connors, the strategic advisor to Greenfield LLC and managing member of the Caraveener, a change agency. Carl, how are you doing this afternoon? Good evening. Thank you for having me. And thank you so much for joining us because we talked to the community yesterday about this issue, about the construction of this grain distribution center. Can you talk a little bit about why it needs to be in this community and

kind of the history of it? Yes. So thank you. Thanks again for having me. And I'll start by saying that, you know, Greenfield is a grain export facility. So it's been described as a number of other in another number of other ways. But it literally is a transportation facility for soy, corn and wheat. And as we look at the history of how it got to Wallace and why Wallace, Greenfield, at its core, believes that there are transformational ways that communities like Wallace can become more relevant in what kinds of businesses come to them and how they actually can revitalize their areas. Because as you well know, across the country, there are other areas similar to this one

with historically disadvantaged individuals who have often gotten what's been given to them as opposed to what they may like. And from the very beginning, Greenfield has gone into the community in Wallace and Edgard, spoken with the residents there to talk to them about, you know, how Greenfield could show up in that community in a way that helped them to revitalize and be able to keep more of their kids

literally in town as opposed to feeling as if they had to leave for prosperity. And the other aspects of Greenfield that have been really attractive to the members of the community. And I get it in conversations that I have all the time with residents there. And it was driven home particularly by one of the pastors there, Pastor Corey Baptiste, in a recent conversation, you know, that he himself had gone off from Wallace post-high school graduation and was gone for about 20 years before he made his way back to the area. And it was primarily because of the opportunities that didn't exist there. Now they have an opportunity to participate

in a greener, safer job that is a well-paying job that for them really matters, right? Because they don't wanna sacrifice their health for prosperity. And they are very much interested in this transformational green economy that is coming. And as an agricultural facility at heart, Greenfield would be providing that.

And our conversations, as I said, from the beginning with the community, you know, we asked those members of the community what mattered most to them, right? And, you know, how could a company show up in a way that was beneficial to the efforts that they had going on? They talked about jobs, economic development, of course. And then they also spoke to education and health care access and culture and heritage preservation. And from the conversations that we've had, and there have been, you know, well over 40 meetings and over 500 individuals talked with in that community

by Greenfield representatives. And we've taken what they've said to us and tried to put together partnerships where we could and are working on other partnerships to enhance those things that they told to us. One of the main issues that have been plaguing that community, has been plaguing our community, has been the education system and lack of opportunities once kids graduate from the local high school. So for two years now, Greenfield has provided scholarship opportunities for kids at that high school

to go on to the local regional community college to be trained for jobs in this new green economy. Those kids who are participating in those scholarship programs are guaranteed a job at Greenfield once it's permitted and opened, but they don't have to work for Greenfield. So we literally are just trying to make sure that they are job ready. And the hope is, of course, that we will build the facility and that they can come and work for us, but they're not obligated to. Along those lines, you know, we're also looking at how we can train others who are beyond high school,

who just may want a different career or to switch from an older facility in the area that isn't as technologically advanced as the Greenfield Export Facility will be. And so we've had meetings with the community. Wallace, as you may know, has about 95 or 98 households in it. We had a community meeting there, and 78 people showed up for that meeting. And they were very much in support of Greenfield and it being built, and primarily, again, because their hopes that these greener, safer jobs put them in a place where they can stabilize their loss of their kids leaving a community, but have them there in a place and working a career that doesn't harm them long term. All right. So, yes. Well, I just want to ask a question because I understand the economic

aspects of it. There's always this need for economic development, for bringing jobs to an area, but you always have to balance that against the potential environmental and health risk of it. There's always this need for economic development for bringing jobs to an area, but you always have to balance that against the potential environmental and health risk of it. What sort of environmental assessments have been done and how can you promise to the community that they won't be sacrificing their health for jobs? That's a very good question and I appreciate you asking it. And, you know, of course, with projects like this, you do studies and we've used the EPA's environmental screen, EJ screening process to do a robust analysis of the environmental or potential environmental impacts that a project like this could have on that community.

And primarily, you know, the air pollution, noise, sound, those types of aspects of a project matter to the people who live in that community. And the robust work that we have done to study those aspects have shown that there will be minimal impact on the community in those areas, primarily because of the technology that will be used to build this facility. There has not been a grain export facility built since the 70s, and certainly there have been other grain elevators built recently in the last 10 years, one or two actually, the technology that this facility will use is even going to surpass those. A lot of the aspects of concern would be around dust and emissions.

Well, in this facility, the technology is such that the conveyor belts will be covered or enclosed along the way, and there'll be aspiration systems that will, if anything does escape, it will be returned back into that system at the point of escape as opposed to down the line, right? And so this is not something that has been seen, certainly in Louisiana. And so we are very enthusiastic about how this will be able to provide for that community a safer, greener job, right, where they don't have to risk their health for the prosperity. You know, I'm an old country boy, so I think sometimes I put the cart ahead of the horse.

You can kind of talk about what the facility will be doing for those people who didn't grow up around grain and farming. What's going to be going on at this facility that's causing these concerns about the environmental impact? Yes. So at its heart, this is, as I said before, it's a transportation facility. So grain will come in, 90 percent of which will come in by barge. And that's done purposefully because we wanted to reduce the truck and train traffic. And that also reduces the emissions that could happen in the area. And that basically corn, soybeans, wheat will come into the facility, be taken into the facility through the conveyor belt system that, as I said before, at points that are enclosed or are covered and go into silos. And then they will be immediately put onto other barges and ships to be transported to the purchaser of those items. So nothing's going to be processed. There'll be no chemicals used at the facility.

The no groundwater use as well, which also, as you know, is important to the environmental aspects of this project. So that's effectively what this project is, right? It is not the grain elevator of 40 years ago that had exposed conveyor belts where dust and emissions were going into the air, adding to the issues that some have raised, right? But we've gone to great lengths to meet with the community and make sure that they understand exactly what this facility is

and what it is not, right? And, you know, for most of the people who have come to these meetings, you know, they have been very happy to understand this isn't something that they know from the past or have seen in the past right uh and and and primarily is because of the technology there's also going to be you know some has has hazardous monitoring uh systems on this facility that have not been used previously in the area that also help to make it more safe uh and reduce any risk of uh dangers and so that those are all things that the safe and reduce any risk of dangers. And so those are all things that the community has to be aware of, right, so that they can. And we've made sure that they have been made aware of that so they can understand what we're doing for and with them, not to them.

So we've seen issues with grain facilities like this in other locations, in Odessa, for example, Ukraine, that we're going to be talking about a little bit later. There's been a massive impact on coastal estuaries where their grain facilities exist because of runoff from the facilities. I think it was ammonia runoff became an issue there. We've seen in other locations grain silos literally explode from aerosol grains being ignited by loose sparks. But what can be done to ameliorate the community concerns that things like this might happen? I understand the technology is in place and we're using advanced systems, but there only needs to be one mistake and communities can reasonably be afraid when you see some of these massive explosions that happen

at grain facilities internationally. I agree. Communities can reasonably be afraid. And that is, again, why communication is really important and why we have tried to have as many meetings as possible with the community to make certain that they understand the technology that is being brought to them to help reduce those risks. You know, in grain facilities of old, the place where explosions would happen the most was something called a head house. Well, in grain facilities of old, the place where explosions would happen the most was something called a head house. Well, in this new facility, there's no head house. So that eliminates that risk. All the silos are also self-cleaning, so no one will be in them. So that reduces the risk of combustion there as well, as well as workers being, you know, buried alive as existed in older facilities.

And so it's these types of technological advances, you know, that, you know, have made, you know, Greenfield say that, hey, this is not just a good business model for a like Wallace that have historically been disadvantaged right and gotten less safe less green facilities that can help them as they try to revitalize and overcome some of those impacts of the past right and so you know it's really been encouraging to meet and talk with the people of the area because as they get more understanding of what the facility is and what it is not, you know, they have gotten a lot more encouraged about, you know, this being a impetus for the revitalization of their area. And, you know, it is certainly all reasonable to have those concerns. But with regard to the atmospheric exposure by one example,

currently there are sugarcane fields in the area. The property itself currently has sugarcane on it. The burning of those sugarcane fields, which has to happen between harvests, as you're aware, being a country boy, this facility will have fewer emissions than the burning of those

cane fields. You know, this facility will have fewer emissions than the burning of those cane fields. You know, whenever you have these projects like this, there's always this concept of NIMBY, you know, not in my backyard. Why here? Why in this particular area where there are so many people who are seemingly against it and who are protesting it? Or is there not another site that will be an option where you can have the same logistical advantages without some of the concerns from the community? So, one first thing I'll say is that there is not, as I've been saying from the beginning, you know, we've had many meetings in the community. There's not a lot of pushback from the community about this facility being built. In fact, they have embraced it and would like us to move quicker to get it

open. We have already started to offer sessions with the community to talk about how they can be trained because we have a local first motto, and we really want to make that come to fruition by training the folks who live there to be ready to take these jobs because they are so enthusiastic about what it can do to help change the way that their community operates currently and how it accepts, you know, the kinds of jobs that come to it. Again, the people in the community are, you know, excited about that possibility of greener, safer jobs. We are talking with them about how they can be trained. We're at least three years away from anything opening, right? But we want to make certain that there is enough lead time for the people there to be able to take

advantage of these opportunities and jobs. It's also the reason why we started the scholarship program at the high school so early. You know, we are clear that there are communities that have been on the back end of these types of deals in the past and not been able to benefit. And Greenfield's whole position is we want to look at all stakeholders, make sure that all the stakeholders who can benefit from this understand what those benefits are and try to maximize those benefits, both to that local community as well as to farmers in general and disadvantaged farmers in general. And so this is a model that actually could be replicated in other areas of the country with similar areas to wallace and edgard you know and we've had conversations with

elected officials and farmers cooperatives and hbcus around the country to talk about how this kind of green business can be used to help transform those areas in more positive ways all right well it sounds like there's a lot of information, a lot of public input needs to happen. Where can the public go to find more information at? If they want to look up, you know, a scorecard, the environmental ratings. How can people become more informed before making a final decision on where they stand on this issue? So there's a website, www.greenfieldla.com. On that site, there's lots of information. There's testimonials from local

residents who are awaiting this project to come about. There's fact sheets there as well for people and links to other articles and the like that they can be better educated about what's coming. And again, it has been our experience and more than 500 encounters we've had in the area that this is a well-received and well-awaited project. Not very much pushback has happened regarding it, you know, based on what you're saying. Just want to make sure you understand that the majority of the people that we have encountered are in favor of this project wholeheartedly. All right. Well, thank you for coming. And we will present both sides and let the audience decide.

Thank you so much, Carl O'Connor, the strategic advisor for Greenfield. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you very much for having us. Have a good holiday season. You too. All right. Moving forward. Yesterday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky delivered what can only be described as a stirring address to a joint session of Congress. Many people are describing it as similar to Winston Churchill's address to Congress during World War II to ask the U.S. for support. One of the people that has been on the ground in Ukraine working on this,

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to be people who do not see, which is that we've seen more and more African-Americans, particularly African-American men, voting Republican. It's not huge numbers yet, but we're seeing the shift take place. There was a point in time where prior to 2016, Democrats would usually get around 93 to 95 percent of the black male vote. And more recent elections have been closer to 85 to 88 percent of the black male vote. President Trump, indeed, got over 20 percent of the black male vote in 2020. This comes down to many issues and many reasons behind it. And to discuss this, we're joined by the president of the Black Conservative Federation, Mr. Deontay Johnson. Deontay, how are you doing today?

All right, I think we lost Deontay, but we're going to come back to him in just a second. We're going to bring in our panel to talk about this until we can get Deontay reconnected. Dr. Carr, why do you think we've seen these numbers of African-American men vote or for some reason suddenly deciding to kind of switch parties or being less enthusiastic about the Democratic Party as we've seen previously? I don't generally narrate it in terms of gender, but whoever is switching to what is called conservative but is really in the moment we're seeing now, white supremacists and fascists, I'll just reduce it to one word, ignorance. We are at an inflection point in the earlier conversation about the January 6th Committee.

Unlike the Watergate era, the 1970s, unlike even the September 11th Commission, where there was some bipartisan fact-finding, that kind of thing, we've reached a stage now where the white nationalists have decided that there's not going to be a country if they can't run it. While we're looking at politics in Congress and elections, the case that was argued two weeks ago before the Supreme Court, Moore v. Harper, with the independent state legislature theory, the argument that state legislatures can basically replace their will for the will of voters, the will of their state supreme courts, the will of governors, this, and I

expect that Moore v. Harper is going to affirm that theory, one which was birthed, by the way, in a concurrence by William Rehnquist in Bush v. Gore. We're looking at a moment now where the white nationalists have decided that if they can't run it, they will destroy it. This is something that is kind of without precedent, not even during the U.S. Civil War. And by the way, in the $1.2 trillion package that you mentioned passed the Senate and is going over to the House now, that attempt to shore up preventing state legislatures from stealing elections, the reform in terms of the Electoral Count Act was in that package. So maybe they've headed that off.

I'm bringing that up to say that the black men, the black women, but majority black men who are moving to the conservative party, so-called voting for the Republican Party, I guarantee you put a pistol in their mouth and say, I'm going to blow your brains out if you don't know anything about what—I'm going to blow your brains out if you can't explain what Dr. Carr is talking about right now, there'd be a lot of dead brothers in the world, because they don't understand. Cultural conservatism is different than the politics of what's going on now. They think they're voting for their interests, but in fact,

they're switching to a party that has not only their interests at heart, they don't have the interests of the poor whites at heart. And we're at that inflection point. I think ignorance is driving this switch. You know, I think that's a great way to set the table. I think we do have Deontay Johnson, president of the Black Conservative Federation, on with us. Deontay, you there? I'm here.

All right. So, Deontay, you know, I think Dr. Carr gave a great intro into what many people think when it comes to the, quote unquote, conservative movement as it is. But we're still seeing the numbers tick up. You know, in Georgia, Hershel Walker had campaign offices set up in College Park in East Point talking to African-American male voters. We are working for Glenn Youngkin's campaign there in Virginia. I know there's a big emphasis on reaching out to African-American men. Why do you think we're seeing these numbers shift where we're seeing more and more black men vote for Republicans versus black women who are still voting for Democrats at a 95-plus percent rate? Well, you know, the biggest thing is the attention for black men. In the Democratic Party, black men have been the forgotten group. For far too long, we have made our focus on the LGBT community and

women. And so black men are still left behind. One of the biggest issues we talk about is the pro-life movement. We always talk about, well, you know, how does the woman feel? Does my body hurt my choice? And when it comes to the women, but no one talks about, well, what about the man? The man was involved in that process of making that baby. Does he not get a decision? Well, let's talk about the man who did not get a choice on whether the woman aborted the child or not and the psychological problems that they go through later on in life and for the rest of their life. And so that's the biggest thing. The second thing is we need to make the man the head of the household again. We have taken the man out of the household and made women the head of the household.

We need to empower men again. And men are seeing that and they are saying, you know what, the Democrat Party is not for me. It's time to make a change, and I'm coming over to the Republican Party. You know, I find it interesting that one of the problems I think Republicans have nationally is they got away from running on policy, and they got into this kind of running on just the culture war aspects of things. You know, we saw a lot of talk about, you know, internet memes that were replacing for policies. But when you were working with Glenn Youngkin on his campaign, you concentrated a lot on things like school choice, economic development and communities.

Talk a little bit about how you can get back to talking about policy debates as opposed to simply this kind of cultural personality that much of the GOP has fallen into? Well, you know, with the Youngkin campaign, the first thing that we talked about was economy, and economy affects everyone. We talked about, you know, small business owners and the red tape that prohibits them from having a brick-and-mortar business, the red tape that prohibits them from even being able to have a fully functioning business recognized under state governments and under the IRS codes. And so we did a lot with that. We talked about business grants. We talked about making sure that taxes are low for businesses, business owners.

But then we also, yes, we talked about school choice. We talked about making sure that parents are involved in the school, in their child's educational process. But then, you know, Glenn Youngkin sat down with voters. We sat down and we did at the table and we gave them a seat at the table to be able to create the policy points. And that's why Glenn Duncan was so successful. Now, why do you think the broader GOP isn't taking that strategy going forward? It seems that you're still getting, I call them the entertainers when it comes to the outreach to black voters. Instead of having people who can talk about policy, talk about school choice, talk about economic development, you know, they'll trot out Diamond and Silk.

They'll trot out Hersa Walker. They'll trot out, you know, entertainers. How can it switch back to a point where you're actually getting people who can talk about actual policies to help communities as opposed to simply people who are great for Internet memes and videos? Well, those are happening. policies to help communities, as opposed to simply people who are great for internet means and videos? Well, those are happening. The RNC did over 1,500 black events this past cycle. However, the media would not broadcast that. The media only broadcast things that helps get them clickbaits and helps get them the views. But the RNC are having those. We did black business roundtables all over the country. We did events for Juneteenth that we helped people set up bank accounts.

We brought insurance companies in. We brought investors in. We brought people in to talk about financial stability. And unfortunately, those things aren't sexy enough for the media. And, Wolf, then how exactly do you get over kind of the stigma that's attached by, you know, you're a black conservative, so you experience that all the time. The minute you say black Republican, black conservative, you know, kind of the claws come out. How do you think that your group, the people that you're working with, can start getting over that stigma? Because ultimately, I think that the black community does better when you have feet or we have irons in both fire. If you have, if you're all on one side, then one side

gets to ignore you and the other side can take you for advantage. How can you get to a point of parity where it's simply you're getting some good policy out of both sides? So they're actually competing for the Black vote. Well, first we have to realize what a Black conservative actually is. I'm reminded of what Secretary of Commonwealth of Virginia, Kate Coase James, always says is that a black conservative is someone who dares to believe the teachings of their grandparents. We have to talk, we have to really think about the issues that our grandparents cared so deeply about, the First and Second Amendment, common sense regulation, low taxes and limited government

and the sanctity and dignity of life. When we talk about those issues, we are conservative. Black Americans are conservative and we have to get back to those policies because those policies is what saved our community and will continue to save our community and will bring our community out of poverty.

Tim Scott says that education is the closest thing to magic, and we have to continue to promote an educated society. Now, why do you think the Republican Party just simply won't come along and just listen to you? Why do you think they still have this adherence to meeting the white supremacists who are still part of the party? You still see Confederate flags at Republican events. You still hear Tommy Tupperville saying they want their reparations in crime, or Marjorie Taylor

Greene saying they want to destroy Western civilization and replace your children. Why can't the Republican Party just push those people out? Because I think that's a large part of what makes it difficult to recruit from the other side of the aisle. I can agree with you on everything you just said, but then when Tommy Tupperville up, you know, I got to leave that meeting. I'm not going to be there. Well, it's just like we see in the Democratic Party as well, is that we have individuals who have some challenges with messaging. But, you know, the Black Conservative Federation, we offer our assistance to every single Republican in this party. We believe in engaging and not enraging, disagreeing without being disagreeable.

But we also believe that the most important thing that we have to do is be solutionists. And we're willing to sit down with anyone across the table to discuss those solutions. So, yes, I encourage every Republican to come to the Black Conservative Federation and we'll have conversations with them on policy and engaging in messaging. And that's not something that's happened already. And so with that, what are the tangible aspects of the Republican platform that you can say that Black conservatives have contributed? Like when you were talking about shaping policy, shaping the agenda, you know, we hear a whole lot from the National Party about the border, about, you know, the Hunter Biden's laptop. When are we going to start hearing conservatives, beyond black conservatives, talking about issues for the African-American community and things they want to do for them instead of casting them as the enemy? Well, you know, that's something that we've done on the Trump administration. We saw opportunity zones be a big one, making sure that we're revitalizing Black communities and

low-income communities. Being from the south side of Chicago, I understand exactly what it's like to see dilapidated structures and just, you know, abandoned buildings all around my community, and that hurts. So we have to start building up our own communities. School choice has been a major component of building up Black communities, making sure that reading test scores and math test scores are exceeded at high levels. We have to talk about criminal justice reform. Those are the major part of the First Step Act of the Trump administration, where we wanted to go and really look at people who have been serving. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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And Fox News is just as much to blame as much as CNN. It's just not something that sells. And so we have to be the messengers ourselves and we have to get those policy points out there ourselves. And just kind of last thing before I go over to the panel, how do we get into a place where people on both the left side of the aisle and right side of the aisle can start talking about things that we just want for the black community, presenting that to both parties and then going forward from there. Because I would love to hear the Republican plan on reparations, for example.

I would love to hear the Republican plan on voting rights. I would love to hear us just simply having an agenda for the black community that both parties have to come to the table on, the same way the Jewish community does, the same way the LGBTQ community does, the same way the feminist community does. Why is there not just simply a unified Black agenda instead of us kind of going at each other, where you have Black conservatives talking about Black liberals, and then Black liberals talking about Black conservatives? We're just spinning our wheels to go nowhere. Well, we have to get back to, we have to unify, and I agree with you. That's where

we should be. We should differ on policy, but at the end of the day we should come together to discuss how we can uplift our community and I believe that the black community should be both Democrat and Republican Republican you know the black community is the only community in America that gives 90% of their vote to one party and we need to make sure that we split that. And, you know, I have friends across the aisle. Robert, as you know, I consider you one of my friends across the aisle, that we discuss issues and we can have a civil discussion. We have to get America back there. However, you know, Congressman Byron Donald started that by trying to join, become a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, and they told him no.

And so we have to be, it's both sides. Both sides have to be willing to come together. And right now, the Democratic Party has not shown that they're willing to work with black Republicans in Congress. We have Congressman Byron Donald and Congressman Burgess Owens, and we just added Congressman Wesley Hunt and Congressman John James. Let's see, with four black Republicans in Congress, will black Democrats embrace them and say, you know what, we know that we have differences in policy. We know that you're a Republican and we're a Democrat. Can we sit down and talk about how we can make sure that generational wealth is something that's discussed in our community? Can we sit down and talk about how we can make sure that our children are educated and that our low-income communities

are not given the bottom leftovers in the education system? Can we sit down and talk about the health disparity in America? Can we sit down and talk about these issues? And if we can do that, I guarantee you, I know Congressman Byron Donaldson, Burgess Owens real well, as well as Wesley Hunt and John Jaynes, and they'll be willing to discuss those. We just have to make sure that we have some participation on the left. I remember something similar with a good friend of mine, former Congresswoman Mia Love out of Utah, who, you know, great person, wonderful to down with, but it was hard to get these bipartisan conversations going. Bringing the panel back in, Erica, what do you think has to happen for us to

kind of create a black platform? Because if you see the Jewish platform, for example, President Obama goes out of office, he drops off $38 billion to Israel. President Trump comes into office, he drops off $40 billion to Israel. President Biden comes into office, he drops off $45 billion to Israel. They don't care who the party is in power. They have their agenda and it's executed. How can we do the same? I have to be honest with you, I'm very disturbed with that entire conversation. Very disturbed. And I honestly don't have shit to offer right now because to me, this is further, this is further proof that the disinformation campaign has been clicking like a whale oil machine in that chain.

That train is not latest at all. Anybody champion a motherfucker, Glenn Youngkin, anybody cheering any of those people that he just named, he got shit to say to him because the ship has already sailed. But, Erica, on that point, how do we make progress doing that? Because we just saw, and we talked about this yesterday, we had everybody down in Georgia, you know, talking about how important the black vote was to them to maintain the Senate. Then they get to Washington, they pass a $1.7 trillion bill without anything in there for black people. So how exactly do we push our agenda forward if we're not willing to have a conversation across the aisle? To say, so there's so much in that,

because to say, you know, I'm going back to the LGBTQ women not being a focus. There's so many places in this conversation to then jump over to say what happened with the fool known as Herschel Walker walking around at East Point talking to anybody about what? What the fuck was he talking about? Did he under what was he talking about? What what message, what clear message did Herschel Walker communicate to anybody. So then to say that I'm a part of the 95 percent, right, because as a person, I'm going to continue to fight for democracy because I have been given much as a person. I would dare not not do what I needed to do in order to make sure that I have done the work for other people that are around me. So that's first and foremost. So for me

really to respond properly, we would have to go through so much of this conversation that is for me, a hundred percent ignorant. But to really discount people, you know, who carry children in their rooms, me and Recy have done just that to discount people because of gender. I'm a woman. That is how the Lord made me. It's fucking stupid. And then to take people, which we all have in our family that are LGBTQIA plus and do the same damn thing to me. We have nothing to talk about. Whatever talking points that have been successfully imprinted by the Republican Party, keep that. Get Recy's book about radical Republicans. Read that.

But honestly, I absolutely have nothing further to say because so much of what he said in his conversation with you was disrespectful as fuck. Recy, as he mentioned you, do you think there's anywhere... Recy, do you think there's anywhere that Black conservatives and Black progressives can come together and create a political agenda going forward where we can get something done across the aisle regardless of who's in power? First of all, I have to start by saying, period.

Period says thank you for setting it off because because at the end of the day there, I was like, I guess, as some of the disrespectful comments that were made, disrespectful, chauvinistic, misogynistic and ahistorical, talking about daring to believe their ancestors, our ancestors believed in limited government. When we were trying to get the Civil Rights Act passed and we were trying to get desegregation, that was limited government? I don't think so. So, I mean, there's so many historical things. As far as can we go hand-in-hand, kumbaya, no. No, we

cannot. As long as what people are pitching is really rooted in right supremacy, we can't be hand-in-hand with that. And I'm not saying that Democrats are perfect. I'm not saying that all Republicans ain't shit. However, I'm not seeing nothing that I can really rock with in what is being said. And I just want to go back to the website, too, because I looked it up because, I mean, you know, I didn't get a lot of a dance notice about who was coming on.

But I looked up this Black Conservative Foundation Federation. And one of the things that it says, it says individuals, families and communities makes the best decisions regarding their own well-being, not the government. Apparently, that does not include women and our bodily autonomy and our ability to have or not have children. And I would also like to point out that the Republican Party is trying to attack contraception. Right now in the state of Texas, a judge has ruled that if you're a teenager, you cannot get access to contraception. And guess what? In Texas, a judge has ruled that if you're a teenager, you cannot get access to contraception. And guess what? In Texas, abortion is illegal. So you can't get contraception. You

can't get an abortion. And y'all want to talk about the head of the household and the family. What kind of family is it having a forced birth when you're not having forced marriages? And I'm not for that either. You're not having forced fathers. You're only having forced birthing happen to mothers. And so all of this shit is just completely ridiculous to me it sounds good some of the talking points if republicans were actually about some of the stuff low taxes i'm with low taxes my tax is too damn high i ain't got no stimulus i ain't got no nothing if that's what they were actually about we might have a friend of jesus that. But so much of what the Republican Party is about, their receipts

are all in sexism and bigotry, particularly against women, and then you throw on Black people, and then you throw on LGBTQI people, and yes, they are people and they're absolutely deserving of humanity and equal rights like anybody else. Then we got a big, big problem. So no,

ain't no alliance, no way. Especially when you start off acting like anybody else, then we got a big, big problem. So no, ain't no alliance, no way. Especially when you start off acting like Black women are being bestowed some kind of attention or grace. Not when we looking at people dragging the hell out of Megan Thee Stallion

for getting shot. I don't think so. We're living in two different worlds. We gotta have a shared reality before we can march forward together. And I ain't hosting, so I don't think so. We live in two different worlds. We've got to have a shared reality before we can march forward together. And I ain't hosting, so I ain't got to be as nice as I was last time. But kind of on that point, we just saw the Respect for Marriage Act, for example, be signed

into law with bipartisan support. You had conservatives on one side being against it. You had progressives on the other side being against it because it didn't go far enough. They found a compromised position in the center where they were able to protect LGBTQ marriage as well as interracial marriage. If they can come together, two sides of the aisle, get a majority done to get something done, why can't we do that for the issues in our community instead of just kind of saying, well, once we have a super-duper majority for Democrats,

then maybe we can get something done for Black people. I think there has to be some kind of way to... We don't have to agree on everything, but can we find one thing to agree on to get done? Can we agree on not having forced births? Can we agree on contraception? For me, as a woman, that's a start. And let me just add this,

because this was not planned, but let me just add this. I literally lost a pregnancy not so long ago. And I was not public about it. I was really private about it. I lost the pregnancy. And I'm just thinking about if Roe v. Wade had it been overturned for that. I didn't even know I was pregnant. What my big wrong self had already had a child did not know I was pregnant. It was by the grace of God that I was like, I still keep having this pain. And it was a couple of weeks after I started feeling some

discomfort in my body, told myself after work, no, you have to go to the hospital. And it was a doctor that noticed all of the pain on my face that took me and said, absolutely, you have a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. And if we do not rid you of this fetus, whatever you, this pregnancy rather, you will die. He told me, had I not come to the emergency room that night, I would have died. And my partner was deployed in Afghanistan at the time. So for anybody to talk about a woman having babies, that is not light work. Recy just did this not even two years ago alongside a pandemic. You want to sit down and have a conversation and ask about how difficult that was? So no, we cannot have a conversation because to come on and make comments like that and not even understand about what an abortion is, what I had was an abortion.

But it was something that saved my fucking life. So, no, you don't get to come over here and make comment, have all this long commentary and then ask the question, can we all get on the same page? What the hell are you talking about? You have asserted yourself as a person who should be able because you are a man, period. You have asserted yourself as a person who should make decisions and be the decision bearer to possibly my own life or death. No, we cannot sit down and have a conversation. You were disrespectful as fuck the entire time. And you did not know who the fuck you were talking to.

Hmm. And Dr. Carr, I wanted to bring you in before we wrap this segment. Do you think there's anything, voting rights, criminal justice reform, economic development, is there anywhere that we can find a common ground to get things done, or are we just simply going to say that we just have to have complete power on one side before we can actually push that agenda forward? Because we have a lot of stuff sitting for Congress that we're going to need. You know, some of these things, we need like five senators to come across to get passed, but we can't do that because we don't have any bipartisan agreement. Right. Well, let me ask you, Robert, you're a pricing attorney. to come across to get passed, but we can't do that because we don't have any bipartisan agreement.

Right. Well, let me ask you, Robert, you're a pricing attorney. How long do you think it's going to be before they go to court to challenge the act that just passed in terms of LBGQ marriage? They going to court for that? Oh, absolutely. I'll be there next term. No question. My point is this. These crackers have loaded the deck. They're not just going for legislation. They have eviscerated the court. Now, I feel for my brother Deontay because, clearly, the education system in Chicago failed him. We need stronger public education, not vouchers. But I'm a man. I can't have a child, but I can make one. And, uh... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

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Ask him, did he support Herschel Walker? I don't think he had to hop off. Oh, that's too bad, because the white Christian nationalist Marjorie Taylor Greene did, and last I checked, Herschel Walker was paying for people terminating pregnancies like he was playing lottery tickets. In fact, I guess he was playing lottery tickets on the off chance that he might actually not be able to force a woman to bring up pregnancy to term. He kept paying the price.

But my point is this. As a man, as a human being, and as an American by force, because I never asked to be here, F this structure, F this country, F all of its crimes. Let me be very clear. F the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. I vote consistently Democratic because I'm in a mode right now of self-defense. Now, I have friends who will call themselves on the far left, the revolutionaries, who would say both parties are the same. I think that's absurd, but let me tell you why. In a theocracy, you get to tell women that they have to bring pregnancies to term. In fact, you get to do whatever the hell you want with women if you're in a patriarchal theocracy.

Black people know something about that, because in 1528, the Spanish tried to enslave us in what is now South Carolina. And about 90 years later, a couple of boats showed up with just short of 20 people of African descent, August 1619. And that state that brother was talking from. And if you were a black woman, they pumped you full of seed, unfortunately, too many times by forcing a black man to do it, but many more times by the desire of white men like the ancestors of people like Glenn Youngkin. And when you came up pregnant, they said, not only are you not going to sneak around here and terminate a pregnancy, we want that baby and a million more, because every time you give birth, it's an ATM.

Can we understand where the hell we are? Because, see, if you're in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin wants to take all that history out of the book. And if you're a black conservative like Deontay Johnson, I'm wondering what your position is on critical race theory in Virginia, brother, since your master wants to take all that history out of the book. And if you're a black conservative like Deontay Johnson, I'm wondering what your position is on critical race theory in Virginia, brother, since your master wants to take all that information out of the books because it makes white people feel bad. Would it make you feel bad too, brother? Because if that's the case, then race is just a demographic. Race is just a color and blackness is just a color. It's

not a position. It's not politics. It's not culture. Let me end with this. I would feel sorry for that brother if that ignorance wasn't deadly. That ignorance is deadly. We're not talking about a black agenda. You tried to give that brother an out. There was a time when we talked about black agendas. But if you're going to bring up Kay James, let me be very clear. Your grandfather and your grandmother's Republican Party is not the Republican Party of today.

Your grandfather's Republican Party that you're trying to weigh on, what you call the Republican Party of your grandparents, that would be the Democratic Party of the Dixiecrats. They have migrated to the Republican Party now. And so if you're going to support the Republican Party, then you're supporting open white supremacy. And they're saying it with their full throats. I'm not saying support the Democratic Party uncritically. Of course, we got to bang on them because too many of them, Joe Biden being one, think that you can have bipartisanship. This isn't about left or right. This is about white nationalism.

And you can't make compromise with white nationalism. And if an American Negro shows up caping for white nationalism, you better move, brother, because we're going to have to move over you. Because what we're trying to protect is not just Black people. We're trying to protect humanity from people that are determined

to wreck it. And if you're going to cape for them, then we're trying to protect you from yourself. But don't be telling Black women. Don't be telling women what to do. You better put that Bible down because there's a whole lot of other stuff in that Bible when it comes to stoning, when it comes to cutting people's hands off, when it comes to... I know the New Testament came to fulfill the prophecy of the Old Testament, but these white boys is Old Testament Christians. Women are supposed to be barefoot, pregnant, doing whatever the hell they want. And if you're a little underage, Matt Goetz may run around, sniff up behind you and say,

I can do whatever the hell I want with a female. Don't get cute because we can go verse for verse. And then you're going to find out these people you're supporting would just as soon have you butt-ass naked in a damn Virginia field picking tobacco, brother. Stop playing with this. Well, I think we have not. We've come to an agreement that we got a little space to go before we get bipartisanship.

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We wanted to bring in Malcolm Nance, counterintelligence expert, who has also been on the ground there in Ukraine. Malcolm, how are you doing today? Hey, I'm glad to be here. Sorry I got a little late, but we're about to have a blizzard, I think. No problem. That bomb cyclone is a mess with everybody. Can you talk a little bit about what President Zelensky articulated to Congress and what this means going forward for the war in Ukraine?

You know, what President Zelensky did, and it's actually pretty amazing because he has not left Ukraine at all since the beginning of the invasion. He's spoken to other bodies by a teleprompter, and he's had numerous world leaders come to Kyiv by train themselves to discuss their relationships with Kyiv. However, this time he took an American offer. He came to the United States, and he spoke before Congress really about the essence of what the fight in Ukraine is about. And if there's any one thing that we should know

and learn about what is happening in Ukraine is that this is an existential war, not just for the Ukrainian people. Russia fully intends to wipe out Ukrainian culture. They said that they would eliminate Ukrainian dialect, Slavic language, which is very similar to Russia. But for the most part, it's really a war about the end of democracy in Ukraine. Russia cannot have that on its borders. It's a dictatorship. It doesn't want that infection going there. And also control of 25 percent of the world's wheat. So Vladimir Zelensky came and made an impassioned, historically articulated speech about how this was America's war, how you could not decouple America and the money that it is donating to Ukraine away from the saving American democracy against what we

see now as the ultra-conservative, ultra-MAGA right. Most of their supporters are supporters of Vladimir Putin and his dictatorship. And Vladimir Zelensky made a very, very good, impassioned plea for America to understand that every dollar that is spent in Ukraine, using his famous phrase, is not charity. It's an investment in a future war you don't have to fight with American service members. It was a good speech. You know, on that point, many people compared the speech to Winston Churchill's address to a joint session of Congress at the beginning of this special military operation that the Kremlin calls it. People expect that this to be a three- to five-day operation.

You would do a decapitation strike on Kyiv, a replacement for puppet government, and Ukraine would turn into a subsidiary state, much like Belarus or much like many of the other former Soviet republics that were part of the Warsaw Pact. But because of U.S. aid to Ukraine, this has turned into a year-long struggle where the Ukrainians seem to be winning. We recently had the Russians flee from Kherson across the Dnieper River. We've seen the counteroffensive in Kharkiv, which has been amazingly successful, regaining territory. Why do you think so many Republicans have suddenly become the pro-Putin party?

And even we saw Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz refusing to applaud Vladimir Zelensky. Now they're calling it everything from money laundering to part of the Hunter Biden laptop scheme. Why are Republicans against defending Ukraine? Well, for a simple fact that three years ago, Donald Trump was impeached for attempting to blackmail and extort Vladimir Zelensky when he refused to actually make up an investigation of Hunter Biden at the personal request of Donald Trump via Rudy Giuliani. He refused to do it. And now what we're seeing is the Republican Party went into rebellion against Ukraine. This is not new. Trump understood also, acting as a vassal of Vladimir Putin,

that those weapons, the money that they were going to release to Ukraine was to pay for the thousand Javelin missiles, the same missiles that broke the Russian invasion at the very beginning of the war. Ukraine would have been rolled over without those missiles. I know. You know, for those of you who don't know, I've actually been a combatant in this war since last March when I joined the International Legion for the Territorial Defense of Ukraine. I've been a Ukrainian army soldier this whole time. And I'm going to make something very clear so that no one has any misapprehension about what I'm going to say. Ukraine is definitively winning this war.

Yes, we are taking casualties. My unit just lost three people the other day. But Ukraine is definitively winning this war. And for Ukraine to win this war, it means that you are humiliating Donald Trump's personal mentor and essentially the person who put him into power in the United States. And since Trump didn't get his way by extorting Zelensky, he didn't get his way by helping and supporting Putin by dismantling NATO, which is much stronger. That means anything Donald Trump hates, the Republican Party hates. And they have now become the party of dictatorship and have aligned themselves essentially against

a country which has had nine Democratic elections, whereas Vladimir Putin's Russia has had two, and they elected a KGB officer who will now have none. You know, we're seeing continued shelling in Bakhmut, where also the nuclear plant in Zaporizhia has continued to be under attack. It's very much the weapons sent by the American people that are maintaining the ability of the Ukrainians to fight. You know, if it was not for, as you said, the Javelin missiles, which have destroyed many of the T-72, T-60, T-90 tanks that the Russians really used as the head

of the spear, the Stinger missiles that have taken out many of the Hind helicopters. Now we have Patriot missile batteries, which are being deployed to Ukraine. President Biden promised another, I think, $1.8 billion. But you have many people, even in the African-American community, questioning the amount of monetary aid going to Ukraine. Why is so much money needed for the defense of Ukraine? And how can it be justified given the needs of the American people here? And we tend to argue about dollars and cents down to the nickel in American budgeting, but many people seem to think that Ukraine

simply has an unlimited debit card where they can take as much money as they need for their defense. Why is that justified? Well, let me put it this way. Right across the border from Western Ukraine in a small town called Zhizov, Poland, right, where there is a U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Combat Element operating,

about 20 to 25 percent of those troops are African-American or Latino-American, people of color. If Ukraine had fallen, those soldiers would have been in combat with Russia. So we have to make some strategic decisions here. Ukraine asked for only one thing from us, as a democracy which was defending itself against the totalitarian dictator who launched the largest war in Europe since Adolf Hitler invaded the Sudetenland in 1939. They asked us for weapons. We spent over $2 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting essentially guys who were wearing flip-flops and making a very, very large defense industry very happy over 10 years. That's not what's happening here. This is the war you've always feared would happen in Europe. It's just that, you know, once Ukraine were to fall, 25 percent of the world's wheat falls into Russia's hands. A dictator has shown that direct

force actually works. What you would have seen was a cascading series of political bodies around the world move away from our style of democracy towards Vladimir Putin's autocracy. This is a war on what ideology will dominate the world. One where people are led by those who are voted in by the consent of the governed, or one where a dictator just gets to walk in anywhere he wants and take what he wants. Look, Donald Trump was essentially a mini Vladimir Putin. for Trump and his ilk, again, who were there, they were going to dismantle NATO and body a defense body, which the United States created in 1947 for Vladimir Putin. So the war that was being fought in Ukraine right now,

every dollar you're spending is not 50 or 100 or $1,000 you would have to spend to defend Poland or Estonia or Latvia or Lithuania or Finland as part of a NATO alliance. Right now, the weapons systems that we're selling Ukraine, it's not just the United States. 32 nations, all of Europe, the European Union, are all sending weapons to Ukraine. Another thing that we're doing here is we're learning just how intense combat would be fighting against a nation state, a near-peer adversary such as Russia. Trust me, I have been bombarded by Russian rockets, Russian artillery. My command post took a direct hit by a weapon system that fired 40

kilometers across the Russian border. This is a war we don't want to fight, all right? We'd win it. Our weapon systems are definitive. The Russians have no army to speak of. They're actually a horde of literally orcs, people who came to Ukraine to steal what they could and are dying in droves. These are bodies, the Ukrainians themselves are taking losses, over 13,000 dead. These are people who are not Americans. Americans do not have to die fighting off totalitarianism. Now, we spent a lot of money in a lot of places in this world, but I think this is one of the best investments in American history. We cannot afford to allow democracies to be rolled

over by dictatorship, or it's going to happen to us anywhere, and you're going to see U.S. forces in combat everywhere. Can you talk a little bit about the kind of dominoes that fall if Ukraine was to fall to Russia? Because if you did, as Monica Crowley on Fox News suggested, and cut off all aid to Ukraine tomorrow, as some Republicans have been saying, Matt Gaetz and Boebert and others, you'll be looking at, one, Russia will be able to finally close that gap between Kherson and Odessa, cutting off that port, which is the last remaining port that is able to deliver goods into the Black Sea. They'll be able to connect the corridor from the Donbass all the way to Transnistria and Moldova.

You'll see a situation where Belarus will be newly encouraged to maybe. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.

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Well, I mean, it's not so much dominoes. Right now, because of where Ukraine is, it would just be a matter of attrition. Maybe two, three years before Russia would finally wear down the Ukrainians to where their combat capability would be so degraded without the support of the United States and the rest of NATO that they would start losing vast pieces of terrain. Of course, Russia would be losing 200, 300, 400,000 dead.

I, you know, and trust, I'm saying, trust me, I was a combatant there. Those guys are nothing but cannon fodder. Very few of them are actually skilled troops. But when you're putting a thousand to one out or a thousand to two out, it's a little hard to maintain your ground. Listen, when the Republican Party says they should cut off aid, they are just being the traitors that they have identified themselves to all the values of the founding fathers that they claim to honor. We are a democracy, a republic, which is a democracy in which the rights of the minority are protected. That is not what they are for. Donald Trump, and I wrote this in one of my better read books, The Plot to Destroy Democracy,

Donald Trump is a member of what we call the axis of autocrats. He believes that Vladimir Putin's solitary style dictatorship, that President Xi of China, he congratulated him on the day that he received the ability to rule forever without elections. This is a man who has literally said he was in love with a North Korean dictator. For African-Americans, if you think you would have it bad now, or you had it bad over the last six years, Because let me tell you, we're in the best economy since Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's economy. If you think it was bad under Trump, imagine everything bad that happened to you being law. This is the party that you're up against now. They want to overturn all of America's alliances since World War II. That would literally betray the very reason that we landed at

Normandy, would be to install a totalitarian dictatorship and run a nation based on white supremacy. So for anyone who says, hey, you know, we didn't get our school funding here in the United States, you're right. You didn't. Because this has nothing to do with the defense budget. It has to do with they want to dismantle the Department of Education. They will dismantle everything that the African-American community has ever worked towards since the civil rights era. In fact, they had their way. They'd roll back the civil rights era. So every dollar spent defending Ukraine as the eastern wall of democracy staves us from having to fight in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Finland, the countries which all have a border with now apparently an out-of-control Russia.

Good investment. You know, we keep seeing week after week, Europe seems to be hedging closer to autocracy. If you look at what's happening in Israel right now, Netanyahu just installed the most right-wing government in the nation's history. If you look at Italy, where Giorgio Maloney has installed a neo-fascist party, which worships Mussolini, all of a sudden. If you look at the government there in the UK, where you had Liz Truss and Boris Johnson running a right-wing government, is Europe headed towards a position where these right-wing autocrats become the standard and not the deviation? You know, again, I wrote a book in 2018 called The Plot to Destroy democracy. One thing that most people didn't realize until they took their shot at

trying to put the American government into the hands of an autocrat is that United Russia, Vladimir Putin's party, since 1992, if I'm not mistaken, after Putin became, no, not 1992, excuse me, 2002, after Vladimir Putin became president, started funding right-wing extremist conservative parties all around Europe. The nations you spelled out, those are the least of them. The government in Italy, yes, it is a fascist-based prime minister, but the actual government is very liberal, progressive, and will not allow that prime minister to do anything other than sit around as a female Mussolini. The government in Israel, well, we all know that there's not much we can say about that.

But, you know, Israel really started becoming extremely radical after the Jewish diaspora from Russia started moving there and created some of the most extremist political bodies there. And you see how they treat people. You know, I lived in Israel. I worked in Israel. It is not the same Israel that it was 30 years ago. Completely different country. Very heavy Russian influence to the point where they won't help Ukraine. In Great Britain, you know, their Brexit referendum was heavily influenced by Russia and Cambridge Analytica at the same times that these same activities were going on, trying to pump up Donald Trump in the United States and, you know, essentially hacked the mindset of the American

public through social media engineering. But those are some of the least governments in there. The government of Austria in 2017, which was a party that was founded by two Nazi SS officers in 1952, won the presidency with the help of United Russia, who immediately opened ties with them. The government of Hungary, Viktor Orban, is more aligned with Vladimir Putin almost than he is with NATO. There are many, many other governments. But this is part of Vladimir Putin's long-term strategic plan to flip Western democracies into autocracies. And fortunately, this has been seen, and the United States, for the most part, is holding on by fingernails to the democracy that it was founded to be, and we are pushing back against that autocracy.

But the Republican Party wholly owns subsidiary of an ex-KGB officer. So how does this war end? You know, I don't think anybody thinks that the Ukrainian army can do a river crossing and push the Russians out of Crimea down to Sevastopol. I don't think that the U.S. is going to supply them with the types of offensive weapons. You know, Zelensky has asked for Abrams tanks and for Leopards from Germany, from Challenger tanks from Great Britain. Is there a diplomatic solution? Is there an agreement that can be considered? Because the Russians are saying they're not going to give back the Donbass, they're not going to give back Luhansk, they're not going to give back Crimea. And Zelensky has

said that he wants all those territories back and to redraw the lines to 2014. How exactly does this end or is it just a continuous decade of war like we saw in Chesney in the 90s? Let me let me explain something very clearly. All right. I am a Ukrainian army soldier. I was part of the 3rd Battalion International Legion Special Forces. I took part in the offensive operation in Kharkiv province that took back the entirety of the northeast of Ukraine. I was in the first. First. The capability of fighting the way that they need to fight to get back across those rivers. We are actually right now about 30% into Luhansk province from a direction that the Russians can barely control, the northeast.

You have to remember that the Russians dominated that space. They are in a position now that within the next year, they will lose Luhansk, possibly Donetsk, all of Kherson province, and most likely Zaporizhzhia. It's quite possible we could be back in Mariupol in a year on the banks of Crimea. There is one thing that Vladimir Zelensky can propose to Russia as part of a peace deal that will be acceptable to the Ukrainian people. I've spoken about it many times with members of the Ministry of Defense,

and it's quite simple. We make this proposal, the unconditional surrender of Russian forces in Ukraine, and we will turn their soldiers over to the handling of the International Committee of the Red Cross, because only two outcomes are going to happen in this war. Russia's army is going to be broken, and they are breaking now. They are barely holding on. Their mobilized forces are going out there wearing World War II and Soviet-era helmets, rifles from the 1950s. We have the equipment, not just the stuff that we have from the United States. It is as simple as this. We have the heart to bring this war to a horrible, terrible conclusion if the Russians want it. But for now, they have an option. They can turn around and walk home, back to the Russian border, or they can be destroyed.

And I think Zelensky is speaking from a position of strength because he sees the writing on the wall, and so does everyone else, which is why we're giving them the weapon systems they need. The tanks that he wants, the Challenger, the Leopard, the Abrams, those tanks, those advanced weapon systems will come to Ukraine, but more than likely once a ceasefire or once Russian forces have been pushed out of their borders. Thanks, Malcolm, for all that you've done in updating us. You know, can't get more update information than you being on the front lines. Thank you for everything. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. We're all impacted by the culture, whether we know it or not. From politics to music and entertainment, it's a huge part of our lives. And we're going to talk about it every day right here on The Culture with me, Faraji Muhammad, only on the Black Star Network. Hi, I'm Israel Houghton with Israel and New Breed. What's up, what's up?

I'm Dr. Ricky Dillard, the choir master. Ayo, peace world. What's going on? It's the love king of R&B, Raheem Devon, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. This week, Title 42, the Trump-era policy, which allowed the Department of Homeland Security and Immigration to force migrants to stay in Mexico as part of a COVID restriction was set to expire. The Supreme

Court stayed that, but we all know that that will not last much longer. Here to discuss Title 42 is Rekia Mbambo, co-director of the Electoral Choice Project. Rekia, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing great. So can you talk to us a little bit about Title 42 for people who are unfamiliar with the issue and why it's so controversial, the Supreme Court staying the inspiration of it. Yeah, well, I mean, this is really important. And we just actually did a report called Criminalizing Blackness, which really goes deep into why Title 42 is really important and actually gives you the history of the 1994 crime deal and its impact on the 1996

immigration laws and how it has resulted in anti-Black immigrant policies that we see now. So, basically, what we see is that continuation of fast-track deportation, a continuation of immigration policies that criminalize Black people and cause them to be faced with deportation at faster rates, blockage of access, and a criminalization in a way that we hadn't seen before the 1994 crime bill. You know, when we look at immigration policies as they have evolved, what we see is that we see that a pattern of what we consider policy that has pushed to really whiten America, right, in a way of pushing that fear that you just talked

about right before I came on, this fear of ensuring that Black immigrants and Black migrants specifically have access to become citizens in this country. And so this report that we have launched called Criminalizing Blackness goes into more detail about all the ways that Title 42 and the 1994 crime bill and 1996 immigration laws have really harmed Black people. And so on this, Title 42, of course, we created during the Trump administration as a COVID-era restriction, saying that, well, we're going to slow down immigrants because there's a fear of COVID. We've gotten rid of almost every other COVID restriction in the country. You know, we're not wearing masks. We don't have vaccine mandates anymore. We're not socially distancing.

Why is Title 42 still in place? That's a good question. Right. That's what we're all wondering. What we saw when we looked in 2020, when we saw Haitian migrants being chased at the border by white men on horses with whips, was a terrorizing of our people and using COVID and other policies to really push this narrative, right, that Black migrants were helping to cause harm or helping to impact our health in this country. And we know that those things, that's just not true, right? We saw an increase of deportation of Black migrants over and over again. And so, you know, we have to be really mindful and we have to continue to bring forth the truth about the harm of these type of policies. You know, the key point of the report, Criminalizing Blackness, is to really show how legislation like Title 42 really is a blueprint

to major funding for prisons, for policing, and sentencing under the guise of creating a safer America. And so we have to be really cautious and cautious of how it disproportionately impacts Black immigrants and Black people. Absolutely. I want to bring our panel in. Erica, just kind of on this point, why do you think it's that regardless of the administration, they still keep these policies in place, particularly with regards to migrants from Black and brown nations they don't have in place for Ukrainian migrants, as we were just talking about with Malcolm Nance, or with President Trump's Norwegian migrants. Why do we stand for this in the country? Well, I mean, we've talked about it on the show plenty

of times that white supremacy is global, right? So that is a truth that we know when you talk about having migrants that come over from European nations, nations that can really kind of uphold white supremacy tenets. And so it's, you know, very interesting when we look at, you know, who was the advisor and author of Title 42, Stephen Miller. We know that he is definitely out of his hood and robe. He's been a white nationalist for quite some time. So this is not appalling and surprising policy. One of the questions I did want to ask the guests that we have on, Robert, is, are you finding success with coalescing other groups? There are different people that I follow on social media that are always bringing these stories to the forefront because it's not,

you know, we don't hear about it until it becomes a political football, so to speak. So I just wanted to find out, are you finding success with other groups that maybe don't have the reach on their platform to really get more people involved around this campaign, so to speak? Yeah. One of the things that we've been working really diligent on is really making this issue something that everybody in their homes, Black people in their homes can really feel and touch and understand. That's why the report that we have really connects the crime, 1994 crime bill, to immigration policies and how it was literally the precursor.

And so this report was done by BAJI, Black Alliance for Just Immigration, Movement for Black Lives, Law for Black Lives. It brought together also the UndocuBlack Network, a number of also smaller Black immigrant-led organizations across the South. Excellent. That's good to hear. Very familiar with UndocuBlack and all of the great work that they do. Thank you, Dr. Absolutely. Absolutely. Risi, why do you think that there's often this lack of focus on immigration issues in the black community? We tend to see their struggle as being separate

from our struggle, when often they're hand in hand, as not as if these same Klansmen are saying, hey, do something bad against the Black people, but it's okay for the Latinos. It's often one and the same. How can we create a coalition so that we can push forward on both sides of the fence? Well, and there are Black people that are Latinos as well. I think that there's a xenophobia problem

within the Black community. Not everybody, obviously, but there are people that, I mean, if you look at some of these movements, Alphabet Soup, I'm not going to name them specifically because I ain't got time to deal with them, but there are xenophobic pro-Black movements, even within this country, that do a lot to help foster some of this resentment. The Republican Party helps foster the resentment. These people are taking your jobs, et cetera, et cetera. So there are a

lot of layers to why sometimes the Black community at large, not everybody, but the Black community at large doesn't necessarily identify with the problems plaguing the immigration system. Now, you have some people who don't identify with Black immigrants, but when they see what happened with the Haitian immigrants and migrants and how they were treated, then they hop on the outrage parade because they just like to be anti-Democrats or anti-whatever. But I mean, this is obviously an issue that does impact us greatly because if we talk about the diaspora of Blackness, Blackness is a global, first of all, race, but then it's a global connection that we have. But one of the things I did want to ask is, you know, Title 42, it's a little nuanced.

I've read reports that essentially because Title 42 is not a legal policy, there aren't necessarily consequences for violating, being expelled rather, under Title 42. So we see a higher rate of recidivism of people repeatedly coming back to the border under Title 42 as opposed to Title 8. So it seems to me that title, that repealing Title 42 could be a double-edged sword if you are actually pro-migrant and you want increased immigration. So can you just kind of talk a little bit about, am I wrong in that, or is it more nuanced than that? Because I'm just trying to understand how repealing Title 42, which basically reverts us back to Title VIII, where there are increased, or there's higher

legal penalties for trying to cross, actually helps immigrants. Yeah. You know, I think what we have to focus on is that Title 42 altogether is not good, right, for us. And so when we pull out a little piece that might, you know, yeah, it allows you to come back to the border, right? But do we want to just be able to just come back to the border or do we want to stop the deportation, the fast track deportations in the first place. Right. That is one of the things that we're really recommending is an end to the fast tracking of deportation. Right. Got it. OK. Yeah. So, you know, I'm sorry. I was just I was just great. Go ahead. No, no. You're good. It's good. I don't I can I can go I can long-winded at times, so I ask. Dr. Carr, I wanted to get your thoughts on this because we know that our immigration policy is rooted in xenophobia. The policy created by Stephen Miller was meant to stop this white population decrease that we've seen in America

by bringing in more European migrants, deporting more black and brown migrants out of the country. Interesting, we were talking about Georgia Maloney in Italy in the last segment. She has a similar policy where they're trying to deport African migrants from Italy and bring in more light-skinned Latin migrants from Central America. What do you think has to happen in our immigration policy to disconnect it from white supremacy and from xenophobia and root it back into actual humanity and human rights? Well, I think we have to have global context and then local action. Erica said it. White supremacy is worldwide. To the Ukraine that was punishing Black people trying to escape

and flee to Russians, to the United States, who is so concerned about democracy in Ukraine, and propping up a puppet named Ariel Henry in Haiti after the previous puppet was assassinated, and to the United States is so concerned about democracy in Ukraine, and yet interfering and having coup d'etats by United States-trained military cats in places like Mali and Burkina Faso, and then invited all them African leaders over here last week so they could sweet-talk them into getting that copper and that cobalt. Yeah, I had some questions for Malcolm Nance. But blackness is the—a lot of these people are showing up at the borders because the

United States has helped destabilize their countries. And so my question to my dear friend and sister, Rekia Lumumba, who has always been on this wall, I got two questions. I'll ask the second one first. Where can people download this very important report? And I'm looking at it now in section four, you have solutions at the federal, state, and local level. So my first question would be, what can the Biden administration, what are y'all recommending the Biden administration do? I see you talking about temporary protected status. You're talking about extending the Haitian Families Reunification Parole Program. What do we need people to be aware of so we can call these Congress people

and tell them and call the president of the United States and tell them, do this now. We can do this right now. That's right. That's right. Thank you so much. And it's always good to be on with you. You know, the president should create and expand executive action programs that will provide relief for Black immigrants. This includes providing an additional 18-month renewal of temporary protected TPS for Guinea, Haiti, Liberia, Sierra Leone, let's talk about Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, and other black majority countries. We want to see that the government remove convictions as grounds for deportation and or exclusion, including aggravated felonies and drug offenses.

You know, we want to see a restoration of judicial discretion and due process for all individuals who come into contact with the criminal law and immigration systems. You know, we want to end permanent deportations, right? We want to see an end to mandatory detentions and an end to police and ICE collaboration programs. What we've seen is an expansion of collaboration programs under a Trump administration, and has continued in many ways. This has resulted in the over-criminalization and profiling and policing of Black people

on even a suspect to be suspected of being an immigrant. And so we want to see that shift as well. Folks can download the report, Criminalizing Blackness, at m4bl.org. Click on it. There are additional recommendations in there. And we really go deep into making the connection between the 1994 crime bill and the 1996 immigration laws and the recommendations that our dear brother lifted up that I think will really be a helpful guide and it's clear, easy language that we can all understand and connect with. And so look that, are there congressional sponsors for this? Is there pending legislation

that looks along these lines? I'm not the best person to answer that right now, but I hope that you'll have some of us back on, some of my colleagues who helped to draft this report, like Dr. Amara Inya and a couple of other folks that are best to answer. Absolutely. And so, Dr. Carlson, I wanted to just kind of piggyback on what you were saying, because we have seen very much a bipartisan xenophobia and upholding white supremacy in this country. Even when President Obama was in office, they called him the deporter in chief. How can we change American policy to actually understand that we need immigrants in this country? If you look at grain populations like Japan and China who need more young people. America will be right there with them if we did not have this infusion of immigrants from around the world. We should be happy that

people from all around the world want to come here, as opposed to trying to close the door and put them out. How can we change the mindset of America to understand the value of immigration and building up our nation, as opposed to trying to separate us around racial, ethnic, and national lines? Oh, no, Rob. I don't know if you're asking Rekia. Let me just say very quickly that I don't know. Where do we get this idea that everybody wants to come here?

Do we understand? The Haitians ended up in Brazil. Remember the World Cup in 2010 was in Brazil. The United States destabilized sequential Haitian governments damn near since the Haitian Revolution. They didn't recognize Haiti until 1863. And then they occupied Haiti from 1914 to 1944. And then they put in puppets like the Duvaliers. Haiti had its first unencumbered election in 1990. Then they sent in a CIA group to undermine that. Then they put the damn UN in after they put

Aristide out. And the U.N. went in and messed up Haiti again. My point is that Haitians were leaving Haiti, not because they don't love Haiti, but because they were being forced out by public governments that the United States is propping up. Same thing in Central America, same thing in Latin America. People not coming here because they love George Washington. And people are coming here because they're being driven out of their countries, And the dollar is stronger, which means the remittances are propping up the people back home that they had to leave, not because they don't love their countries, but because they've been forced out. These are push and pull factors. So I'm saying let the United States grapple with

white supremacy on its terms. We have to fight that fight here. But if we try to fight this fight somehow as Americans and not human beings in a world engaged in a solidarity movement globally with local applications, the United States of America is going to collapse, because these white nationalists are not interested in immigrants that look anything other like them. That's never going to change. And if we throw in our lot with them and clap for Vladimir Zelensky and forget the fact that the global South hasn't picked a side in that fight, we are going to go down with these fools.

This is another conversation we have to have. Either we're going to get mature in our ability to put foreign policy and domestic policy together, or we're going to implode like the United States of America. Because the only kind of immigrants they want, you just heard Rukia say it, the only kind of immigrants they want here look like them.

Absolutely. I think that's a great place to close out the show. Thank you so much to all of our guests today. Thank you so much Erica, Reese, Dr. Carr. Thank you to all of our people who joined us. Got to thank also our producers, Ariel, Lisa, Carol, everyone in

the control room. Got to thank Roland for letting me sit in for him. I'll be here next week also while Roland is still on vacation. And look, as I say at the end of every show, in the words of Gil Scott Heron, no matter the consequences or fears to grip your senses,

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