#RolandMartinUnfiltered - VA extends voter registration; Trump admin embraces herd immunity; Did Ice Cube partner with Trump?

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

10.14.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Virginia extends voter registration; Michigan is one of the battleground states in play; SCOUTS allows the Trump administration to end the 2020 census. College studen...ts intentionally trying to contract COVID-19 to make money; Trump admin embraces COVID-19 herd immunity; Victims of sexual assault at Pace Academy file suit against the school; Tech Talk: Check out Smart T-shirts that use scannable QR codes; Did Ice Cube partner with Trump to develop the Platinum Plan? + Central Park Karen has been charged Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Whether you’re a music enthusiast or an ultra-base lover. CEEK’s newly released headphones hear sound above, below and from multiple directions unlike traditional headphones where users only hear sound from left and right speakers. Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Virginia has extended its voter registration deadline after the site went down yesterday on the last day. We'll tell you how long voters in Michigan cannot, excuse me, in Virginia can now register. Michigan is one of the battleground states in play. We'll talk to Detroit NAACP president about getting souls to the polls. Also, the Supreme Court allows the Trump administration to end the census counting tomorrow. We will explain further.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 It's Uncle Roro, y'all. It's rolling, Martin. Rolling with rolling now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real. A federal court has extended Virginia's voter registration deadline after an accidentally clipped fiber optic cable took down the Department of Elections website on Tuesday for hours on the final day of voter registration. Voters in Virginia will now be able to register until 11.59 p.m. on Thursday, in person or online. Joining us now is Judith Brown-Diana. She's the executive director of the Advancement Project National Office. Judith, this obviously is a big deal here in terms of the decision made.
Starting point is 00:04:55 We had the lieutenant governor, Justin Fairfax, on yesterday, and I'm still trying to understand how a power line is accidentally clipped on the last day of voter registration. But luckily, this ruling came down and people will still be able to register. Yeah, I think this is important. Number one, it's important because people have two more days to register until tomorrow at midnight, which is important. Something similar happened in Virginia in 2016, where there was another lawsuit and they got another 36 hours and over 25,000 people registered in that 36-hour window.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So this is important. Because the last thing we want to do is make it harder for people to register, right? But that's in Virginia, right? And the governor and the lieutenant governor were actually on our side. But we had to go to court because they had to be ordered to actually extend the deadline. Unlike Florida, where we also had to sue, I think that was last week we sued the state of Florida for a similar problem where on the very last day, their site went down and people were caught not being able to register. And there they extended it until midnight the next day, but they fought us tooth and nail for any further extension.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So in Florida, we have a governor who's not friendly to people voting and versus Virginia, where they really want an inclusive democracy, you get a different result. Look, one of the things that I'm constantly trying to do is to get people to connect the dots. The only reason this is being extended is because a federal judge made the decision. So if you don't vote for president and you don't vote for the Senate race, or if you do vote and you vote for the wrong folks, then that then determines who these federal judges are. In Texas, a federal judge ruled against the governor's decision to only limit each county to one male drop box. That got appealed to the Fifth Circuit. A three-judge panel, all Trump appointees, ruled in favor of the governor overturning that decision.
Starting point is 00:07:11 If you don't have federal judges who care about voting rights, you're not going to see these type of rulings. That's right. And this, I mean, Texas is a great example of that, where you have a governor who is an opponent of voting rights, who wanted to make it harder to voters, and then you have a federal bench. And that's important that these judges and the Trump administration has appointed more judges in their four years than President Obama did in eight years. And so that impact is going to be an impact for forever. If we think about
Starting point is 00:07:46 this Supreme Court nominee, right, this Supreme Court nominee is very important because not only is the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, going to be decided, a case going to be decided the week after election, and this person could be sitting there, but also this judge will probably be involved in a voting rights case related to the election and the presidential race. And so, yeah, it's it's very important. It's all connected and we should not think that it is not. And the thing here is, again, when you see these type of attacks on voting, in this case, a power line gets cut. But again, when we talk about what's happening in these other states, there is a very clear effort by the Republican Party
Starting point is 00:08:31 to limit people from voting because they know if they shrink the electorate, they have a better chance of winning. Yesterday, more than a million Texans cast early ballots and they haven't even done a final tabulation. That's a record. That's right. I mean, this is you know, I always think that people say, oh, you're talking partisan. Actually, I'm not talking partisan. I'm talking fact. The Republican Party across the board has tried to make it harder to vote, including in a pandemic. So the lawsuits that have been filed about are lawsuits where we're trying to expand opportunities to vote, make people safe so they don't have to choose between their health and the right to vote. Meanwhile, Republican governors and election officials are trying
Starting point is 00:09:16 to make sure that, oh, you actually should have your ballot in on election day, not postmarked by election day, or we're not going to do drop boxes everywhere because we actually don't want you to be able to drop off your ballot because we don't want your ballot in the first place. So this, I mean, it comes down to them trying to save their party, save their guy in the White House, but it's also targeted at Black people because they know that when we turn out, there's going to be, we're a different electorate and we are not going to support people who don't support our rights. But for people to understand, Anthony, go to my iPad.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Appeals court dismisses Texas GOP lawsuit over drive through voting in Harris County. They literally are bitching about drive through voting. And the judges rule that there is no harm for the GOP when it comes to drive through. But they literally are pissed about drive through voting. That has nothing to do whether you are Democrat or Republican. They want to stop any effort to make it easier for people to vote. Here are folks trying to stay safe by remaining in their cars. Republicans are like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:31 We want y'all to get the hell out of your cars, standing long lines and wait. That's right. That's right. And the reason they're doing that is because they're hoping that we'll get frustrated and we will make a choice to stay home. That is exactly why. Their calculation is if we make them jump through hoops, then they won't vote.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And clearly, if we look at Georgia, if we look at Texas, we look at these long lines, people are saying, the heck with that. I'm standing in this line as long as I can. But literally, if you, I mean, like, what's it to you, Roland, to be able to have drive-through? And it's not even drive, first of all, there should be places where actually you can drive up and cast your ballot right there, right? Like curbside voting. Okay. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about your mail-in ballot being able to have a drop box that you put it in,
Starting point is 00:11:27 right? They don't want us to have that. What's it to you that you have more than one? As long as you have it secured, it has cameras, all of that, like other places have done, what's it to you? What's it to them is that they just don't want us to vote. Look at this story right here from Kyle Griffin. It's actually a piece. He tweeted this piece. I'm sorry for the Washington folks. Video show videos show closed door sessions of leading conservative activists. Be not afraid of the accusations that you're a voter suppression suppressor. This is what the lead said as the presidential campaign entered its final stages, a fresh-faced Republican activist named Charlie Kirk stepped into the spotlight at a closed-door
Starting point is 00:12:11 gathering of leading conservatives and shared his delight about an impact of the coronavirus pandemic, the disruption of America's universities. So many campuses had closed, he said, that up to half a million left-le leaning students probably would not vote. So please keep the campuses closed, he said to a cheering audience like it's a great thing. You know, it's like so you want to open the businesses, right, but keep the campuses closed because keeping the campuses closed keeps you in office. I mean, this is, you know, the the hypocrisy of it all, which really is about them knowing that young people are not voting for them. Young people see the handwriting on the wall. They want their college debt wiped out. And Republicans ain't going for that. And so they want to make this harder for them.
Starting point is 00:13:05 They want them to sit at home and not vote. And this, you know, I have my daughter's 18 year old just went off to college. She's in Louisiana. And I will tell you, it's very difficult for young students on campuses to vote, to figure out all of the rules. And so we need to understand that these rules are in place. These barriers are in place because there are some people who want to keep power for themselves and they see the browning of America and they know that we're not down with their agenda. And so they're holding on to their power and they're trying not to let go. In fact, go back to my iPad, please. Tom Fitton, someone you know well. He is, of course, president of Judicial Watch. They're supposed to be they are supposed to be a tax exempt charity. This is what he said. OK, he called on the audience to find a way to prevent mail in ballots from being sent to voters. Quote, we need to stop those ballots from going out.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And I want the lawyers here to tell us what to do. But this is a crisis that we're not prepared for. I mean, our side is not prepared for our side. He's clear on who his side is not prepared for our side. He's clear on who his side is, right? And his side is not our side. And he's clear, and that is the thing, is that the right is, they're unabashedly, unapologetically all about their power. And they don't care who gets in the way. And they always have, they have these little,
Starting point is 00:14:47 this is not the first time that we've heard these stories about these back room meetings where they start to show their colors. And it just so happens that somebody's in the room who's taping it and they are going after us. And so, but at the end of the day, this is the thing is that the power that we have is underscored by the length that they will go to to actually stop us from voting. And they understand that people are not in favor of the things that are happening in this country and that we're going to go out and vote. And that Black people in particular, you know, we shouldn't have to go through all these hoops. We shouldn't have to jump over barriers, but we're going to do it because we know what is at stake. And this election
Starting point is 00:15:40 in particular, our health is at stake. the economy is at stake, our families are at stake, education is at stake. And so there's too much for us on this ballot to sit on the sidelines and let them win by putting up barriers. Again, not only that, so here you had Donald Trump bitching and moaning about ballot harvesting, but check this out. According to this Washington Post story, they obtained videotapes from these conservative activists. Ralph Reed, Faith and Freedom Coalition, another tax exempt group supposed to be nonpartisan.
Starting point is 00:16:18 This is what he says. And so our organization is going to be harvesting ballots in churches. We're going to be specifically going in not only to white evangelical churches, but into Hispanic and Asian churches and collecting those ballots. Right. I mean, like it's was really official, but it wasn't. All they're doing is they're doing the same harvesting thing. This is the thing. It's like they really cannot get their story straight, right? Because on the one hand, Trump is saying don't vote by mail. On the other hand, the party is saying vote by mail. Oh, but not you people. saying don't vote by mail. On the other hand, the party is saying
Starting point is 00:17:05 vote by mail. Oh, but not you people. Don't you vote by mail. We meant these other people. And so this is, you know, it's just showing their true colors and what they're about. And so, you know, we've got to just be prepared to do, to
Starting point is 00:17:22 handle our business. You know, I went the other day. I saw the drop boxes in Maryland. You know, I'm looking forward to filling out my my ballot this weekend and dropping it in one of those drop boxes. And so we have to take the steps to protect ourselves, you know, wipe out all the disinformation and misinformation and make sure that we cast our ballot? Well, I voted yesterday in Dallas County. So I've already got that. Did you use that one dropout? No, I went to the polls. No, I went to the polls.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Okay. We did that. How long was the line? Line wasn't long, folks. Folks were in line. But it also helps when your parents work the polls so you understand all the different places where you can vote. So people are actually doing well. So you brought Diana's. I certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Thank you. I appreciate it. Want to bring in my panel right now to further talk about this. A. Scott Bolden, former chair, National Bar Association, Political Action Committee. Robert Petillo, executive director, Rainbow Push Coalition, Peach Tree Street Project. Michael Brown, former vice chair, DNC Finance Committee. This is real simple, Michael. It's real simple what we're seeing here. And that is Republicans don't give a damn about the voting rights of people of color. They don't care about the voting rights of everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:38 They care about their side, largely white people voting. We see the games that they're playing. And I said it, and I don't care what people say. If you black and you voting for Donald Trump, you're voting against your own people. You're voting for thieves. You're voting for a Republican Party that is hell-bent on stealing elections. They want to put up every barrier.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yes, I don't care what anyone says. You can equate what Republican Party is doing today with what Dixiecrats and racists did to Black people in the 50s and 60s to keep them from voting. And frankly, and hey, Roland, and possibly even worse, because maybe even in the Jim Crow South, certainly in the 50s and 60s, it was still kind of in the shadows and people knew what was happening. But in today's world, these folks are just telling you their strategy. They're not ashamed. They don't care. They want you to know exactly what they're doing, how they're doing
Starting point is 00:19:45 it, and they want you to do something about it. And the way you do something about it, and that's why I'm so proud of folks that are standing in line for five, six, seven, ten hours in early voting to get their vote cast. It is so impressive. It's happening across the country. So people are saying, I don't care what your tactic is. I don't care how you try to scare me, how you try to suppress my vote. I'm going to vote anyway. So I'm proud of folks. But until one of the remedies, and we all know the problems, but until we have a national election law, not state by state, where a certain governor, a certain county commissioner can change the rules, can remove boxes until we have a national election day law. It's not that these kind of problems are going to
Starting point is 00:20:33 persist. And we have to deal with, obviously, the Voting Rights Act. They can't keep coming up, obviously, for renewal. They should be permanent. And until those kind of issues, and we have the tools in our toolbox, but it starts with voting, getting these people out and putting new people in. Look, at the end of the day, Robert, what we are seeing here, and again, I'm going to say it, and I don't care what anybody out there says. If you are even remotely considering voting for any of these Republicans, you are voting for voter suppression. You are voting for a Kelly Loeffler in Georgia. You're voting for a Tom Tillis in North Carolina. You're voting for a John James in Michigan. You're voting for a Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. You're voting for a John Cornyn in Texas. You're voting
Starting point is 00:21:25 for a Tommy Tuberville in Alabama. You're voting for a David Perdue in Georgia. You're voting for people who do not want to protect our elections, who do not want to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act. And when the Supreme Court next month takes up an Arizona case that could very well gut Section 2, you could have, here we are, 55 years after the Voting Rights Act, you could have the most important voting legislation in American history completely gutted and allowing Republican legislatures to embark on political gerrymandering because the Supreme Court had no guts to deal with that. And what that then does, it ensures that Republicans are going to have gerrymandered districts, which guarantees they will get reelected, which means that the voting
Starting point is 00:22:14 rights of others are simply being ignored. This is no doubt. This is not even a partisan issue. It is a, as Judith said, it's a fact issue. To Judith's point, I think it's important to look at that point about demographics and the singularity that's coming in the near future, where America will become a majority-minority nation. The Republican Party has not won a national election in 16 years. They have won a grand total of one popular vote since 1988, which was in 2004. So they understand that a majority of American people are not with them. You very rarely see Republicans doing a voter registration drive or get out the vote initiative. There's always some
Starting point is 00:22:57 question about how to limit and minimize and decrease the vote, whether it be voter ID that we've been fighting over for 20 years or reduction in the number of early voting dates in a state like Maryland. Early voting starts on October 26th and ends on November the 2nd. We've been fighting for decades on this question of who will and will not have the ability to vote easily and effectively. As Reverend Jackson has said for decades, voter suppression is not about the all-out wholesale banning of individuals from voting. It's about skimming, about schemes that are put in place to minimize and to make it more difficult for certain
Starting point is 00:23:35 populations with their antithetical to conservative movement to be able to exercise their franchise. So it's crucially important that we understand that this is what we saw in apartheid South Africa towards the end, where an entrenched racial or entrenched empowered racial majority is headed to becoming a minority. So they entrenched themselves in the court system. They entrenched themselves in the rules. They rigged the system so that they can still govern despite being the minority. They take that de Tocqueville idea of the tyranny of the majority entirely too far, and we have to make sure that we are cognizant of this and prepared to fight back in every way necessary.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Look, I'm just being clear. I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are. If you're looking on any of our streams on YouTube, Facebook, on Periscope, let's just be clear. The Republican Party wants to steal elections. When you sue, first of all, when the Republican governor gets rid of, says you can only have one mail drop box per county. We're talking about massive counties in Texas. Then when they, three years ago, the Republican legislature in Texas passed a law outlawing straight ticket voting. Because they said that they wanted people to really spend time thinking about their choices.
Starting point is 00:25:01 No, that's not why they did it. They did it because they were getting their asses kicked in the major counties with straight ticket voting, like in 2018, when 18 black women became judges. That's why they did it. Then we see, of course, the decision, as I talked about, you suing when it comes to drive-through voting. What are they going to sue next? Will they make precautions for people who are elderly? Will they actually go to the car as opposed to having them come in? They're going to make those folks get out with their walkers or get out with their scooters as well to come in and vote?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I can go on and on and on across this country how Republicans consistently and often make it about voter suppression. And I don't care how many times Malik comes on here and says, no, it's not official policy of the Republican Party. No. When Amendment 4 was passed in Florida, what did they do? Hell no, we're not going to let upwards of 1.4 million people get the right to vote back. Oh, no. They passed a law that said you got to pay all your fines and penalties. And then they sued him with the Supreme Court and the state Supreme Court to the federal courts and allowed to stand. They are going. And Scott, last point. And speak to this. This is about white fear. This is about white Republicans not wanting black people, Latino people, Asian people, the Native Americans to be able to be participants in this democracy. They are trying to guarantee as long as they can,
Starting point is 00:26:36 because they see what's coming, white rule in America. Under color of law. I mean, Michael talked about, well, during Reconstruction and back in the day, well, the most powerful part of all of this is, one, that these specious arguments that are being made to protect the vote are really suppressing the vote and doing under color of law. Thank goodness that we've got an independent judiciary, even in some of these red states who have thrown this nonsense out. But it raises and begs another point. And, Roland, you talk about this a lot, the importance of people not just voting at the top of the ballot, but down ballot at the state level and at the federal level, and being educated as a voter. Because think about it. None of these voter suppression efforts, or most of them, could not play, whether it's gerrymandering or voter suppression,
Starting point is 00:27:32 if the Republicans didn't control these state houses and these governorships. And so it's super important for the people who watch this show and for black people to understand the importance of their vote, to understand the power of the census, and understand why their vote matters as a, who you elect as a prosecutor, who you elect in your state legislature. And so the work begins after November 3rd, if Biden wins and the Democrats take back the Senate and the House,
Starting point is 00:28:00 one, the work to undo all of these machinations that have undermined free and fair voting, but more importantly, to get Democrats elected at the state level as well as on the House and Senate side so that they can be protected despite who's in the White House. That's going to be a lot of work. Look, look, it's very clear what we're dealing with here. We also are looking at, again, the type of misinformation that's being out there. And there also is, again, when you see the games being played all across the country, even in all these different elections.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And look, there are 19 days left before Election Day. But early voting, again, has started in so many different states. Michigan is in play and leaders are warning voters to stay informed, be prepared, and don't sit it out. Watch this video. To vote or not to vote, we cannot debate. Submit your ballots, we cannot delay. Your health and your safety ought not be erased, But without your vote, you have no say. Your vote is your voice, your ballot, your choice.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Submit in the mail or go to the clerk or vote in the booth. Just make sure you're heard. Don't listen to lies. Our people have died to get you the right. We must exercise. First, equip yourself with the knowledge you need. Research the ballot. Share with family.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Judicial, legislative, and executive. Three different branches of the government, but all on the ballot, so check with it. Policies, rules, this affecting our schools. Your vote is a tool for injustice to move. The best way for us to win the game is to get in the game. We see things in this system that we need to change. Racist police killing us in our streets, disrespecting our lives, killing us in our sleep. Ayanna Jones, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Priscilla Slater, black lives need justice.
Starting point is 00:29:56 We must demand greater. Are you mad? You should be. Frustrated? You should be. Fed up? You should be. So take your souls to the polls and vote
Starting point is 00:30:06 on November 3rd. All right. Joining us right now is the president of the Detroit NAACP, Wendell Anthony. Reverend Anthony, how you doing? Doing good, Roland. How you doing, man? I miss seeing your ass, Scott. You just got on a regular TV. Well, you know, I was on the plane, so, you know, we had it sitting here.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Look, you're going to do branding of your show. That's what you got to do. So, you know, that's how it works. I understand. No problem, my brother. Let's talk about this particular campaign here. Obviously, it's about getting people focused on the election, whether it means going in person, that means whether it's early voting, whether it's also mail-in balloting. I was talking about what Republicans were doing in these other places.
Starting point is 00:31:06 But the same thing happened there in Michigan, where voters went to the polls to say enough with gerrymandering. And what did the Republican legislature do to say, ah, to hell with the voters? All right. Well, it's a critical situation, Roland, and I was listening to your guests prior to this segment. And you're absolutely correct. The bottom line is this. If our votes were not so important, they would not be doing the dirt that they are doing. In Michigan, I have received robocalls at my home discouraging me from voting, telling me that if I mail in my vote, then I could be subject to all my privacy stuff being taken away, my credit card information, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:31:46 You have a cadre of people who are enlisted to do that. Donald Trump Jr. has indicated they're trying to enlist 50,000 people to come into urban areas and other communities to discourage people from voting. You just talked about the fact that the U.S. Postal Service, my man, has taken out machines and have tried to slow down and postpone the voting process between getting your absentee ballot applications and submitting them. That's why we're saying in Michigan, vote early and vote now. Don't wait. Take your stuff to the poll. What we have done is that we have a thousand mailboxes relative to the drop boxes all around Michigan. We have several in the city of Detroit where people can take their
Starting point is 00:32:32 ballots and put them into the box and they can do it right now. We started early voting earlier this month. We started to educate and to mobilize folks. You just ran a video about Take Your Souls to the Polls program. We're doing that all over the state, and you've seen it in other parts of the country. We are not taking this for granted. I don't care what the polls say, Roland. I don't care how many points they say Biden and Harris are ahead. We cannot be bamboozled. We cannot be fooled by that.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We don't want to be subject to the Hillary syndrome, taking this for granted. Everybody got to get in this game. Judges are on the line. Your freedom is on the line. Your right to choose is on the line. Your respect is on the line. The Supreme Court definitely is on the line.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That's why they're trying to jam this woman on the court right now. And police reform is on the line. Our very lives are on the line. And I don't know about you, Roland, but I ain't going back to the plantation, brother. I've made up my mind. You know, before I be a slave, I'd be buried in my grave and going home to my Lord and be free. I'm not going back. I'm not going to accept second, third class citizenship. We fought too long, too hard, too deep, too much for us to turn back now.
Starting point is 00:33:53 That's why it's important to get busy, get on it, and not turn back. One of the things I do want to talk about, and again, this is part of the deal there, I've been looking at polling data, how tight the U.S. Senate race is there in Michigan. It's the same before the Senate ban. But here's what I find to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So John James, who comes from a prominent family there in Michigan, mom and dad are Democrats. Go to the go to page, please. This is his website. I guess John James doesn't want anybody to know that he's a black Republican. If you go on his website, he has Republican nowhere on the website. I understand that his commercials and billboards in Michigan, he doesn't even mention he's a Republican and that he also, this is the same person who previously said that he supports Donald Trump 2000%. Is John James playing the okey-doke against black folks in Michigan? What's happening in your state? Well, I think he's really trying to manifest Ralph Allison's invisible man, but from a different perspective. We know who he is, and we know who he ain't. And he is not for
Starting point is 00:35:17 African Americans to the degree that we need to have policies and programs that are structured to improve our quality of life. This cat has not done anything in Michigan or in Detroit that would elevate him to the position of senator. He has not been a block club captain. He's not been a precinct captain. He's not been a state rep or state senator. He's not been a congressman. He ain't been a precinct captain. He's not been a state rep or state senator. He's not been a congressman. He ain't been a preacher or a teacher. He's been an Air Force helicopter pilot, and he's been blessed by family. That has been blessed by virtue of them getting opportunities that groups like the NAACP and the Urban League and others have pushed for to make black economic development some sort of equity in our nation,
Starting point is 00:36:09 in our city, in our state. So he's been blessed like that. And the fact that he wants to end our health care, the fact that he wants to support Donald Trump 2,000%, not 200%, not 100%, he said 2,000%. And the only reason he's not showing up with Trump now because he's reading the tea leaves and it might not be in his advantage to hold on to the coattails of Donald Trump. But the reality is we cannot hold on to his coattails because he is not in the interest of our community. He is antithetical to what you and me and everybody
Starting point is 00:36:47 in our community would need. He does not support the George Floyd justice bill. He does not support reform. He does not support the Supreme Court jurors being held over until after the election and the next president is elected, even though they did the dirt on Mary Garland. He does not support what we support, Roland. You know the slang. Even though you might be the same skin, that don't make you my kin. Somebody said the other day that this was a historic election
Starting point is 00:37:19 with this first African-American potentially to be a senator from the state of Michigan. Well, Clarence Thomas was somewhat historic, but his election or selection was horrific because his programs, his voting record has been devastating to our community. We already got a senator by the name of Tom Scott or Tim Scott down south from South Carolina. Look at his voting record. We don't need another Tim Scott. We need another Thurgood Marshall on the court,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and we need another Kamala Harris in the Senate and Cory Booker. We don't need a John James, and that's not the NAACP talking because we don't endorse nobody. But you ask Reverend Wendell Anthony what he thought, Roland Martin. But that's Reverend Wendell Anthony talking relative to what we need to have going forward in the state of Michigan. This is, of course, again, when you start looking at how these races are going. I saw some polling showing that 17 percent of black men in Michigan are supporting James. What is again, as somebody who's there, what is Senator Gary Peters doing
Starting point is 00:38:33 to reach core voters to get black support? What is what is his agenda for black folks in Michigan? Well, I think that obviously he has to increase it. 17% is not a lot, but it's too high. There should not be 17% of us doing what we see relative to that poll. But I think Black people, as you know, Roland, we who have not had the privilege of having so many representatives at the highest levels of office
Starting point is 00:39:05 in this nation, we gravitate towards blackness. And what we think, just because this person comes out of our community, it might be in our interest. But we know that's not always the case. The bottom line is this. Gary Peters supports health care, the Affordable Care Act. He wants to keep your children on to your health care program through the age 26. The other people want to take them back to age 18. Gary Peters supports pre-existing conditions as a condition to determine whether or not you are qualified or still to be eligible for health care. The other people are in court right now to try to disconnect and take that away. Gary Peters supports the George Floyd Justice Act that is put forward by the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congress. The other people do not.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Gary Peters wants the Supreme Court jurors to wait until after the election of the president, the other person does not. Gary Peters wants to make sure that we have testing, that we have tracing, and that we deal with this resolution of this situation that has caused 217,000 people to die and to wear masks and to make sure that you are observing physical distancing and all scientific protocols. The other people do not. They are led by a person who does not want to wear a mask, who thinks it is a hoax, who does not pay the science, who wants you to drink Clorox and bleach, who does not think that he is spreading this virus with a super virus running around the country. And so when you look at the record, look at the policies, you have one person over here that is working in your interest. And you have another person over here that don't give a darn about you and your interest.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So it's really clear what you're going to do when the vote comes to you. Reverend Wendell Anthony from Detroit, I certainly appreciate it, sir. Thank you so very much. I'm actually looking at putting together. Huh? Say it again. We finished already. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Say it again. I said we finished already. Yeah, we finished. We finished already. Hold on. Say it again. I said we finished already. Yeah, you use all your time talking. I only got to ask two questions. I'm actually working on, guys, I got it. I got it. I'm actually working on putting together something. I'm trying to get to do a broadcast there in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I actually reached out to the Peters folks, want to be able to interview him, talk about some policy issues. And so I would love to. I'll hit you back on that. That's what I called you yesterday, looking to put that thing together. Because I'm trying to do something in Mississippi, Atlanta, and also South Carolina. All right. Bring that ascot also South Carolina. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Bring that ascot when you come. Of course. I'll do that. You have the gators to go with it. You know I do. Yeah, I know you do. Reverend Adler, thanks a bunch. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:42:16 All right. Thanks, brother. All right. Let's go to, I'm going back to my panel. I got three black men on the panel today. I want to talk about this specifically. Again, I see this polling data showing 17% for James black men in Michigan. I saw some data showing 14% for Tom Tillis in North Carolina. Also today, folks, if y'all have that tweet, pull this tweet up. The black Republicans who are supporting Trump, ooh, they real excited and happy, putting out tweets saying that, essentially implying that Ice Cube is endorsing Trump's
Starting point is 00:42:56 platinum plan. Go ahead and show this here. So Deontay Johnson, this is what he put out. So Ice Cube has officially given the Trump campaign permission to reveal that he has been helping us develop President Trump's groundbreaking Black Trump platform, the Platinum Plan. Leaders gonna lead, haters gonna hate. Thank you for leading. And he's quoting Katrina Pearson, who just one of the dumbest folks I've ever seen in my life. This is what she tweeted. Shout out to ISQ for his willingness to step up and work with real Donald Trump administration to help develop the platinum plan. And then, of course, it says, in case you missed it. Now, folks, do y'all have the Ice Cube tweet? Okay, go ahead and
Starting point is 00:43:37 pull that up, please. This is what Ice Cube then put out. Facts, I put out the CWBA, which means contract with black America. Both parties contacted me. Dem said we'll address the CWBA after the election. Trump campaign made some adjustments to their plan after talking to us about the CWBA. He's getting lots of pushback, lots of criticism from black folks on social media, Robert. Your thoughts on this, you know, on this here. I had Ice Cube on the show talking about his contract with Black America. But also, I went through line by line that platinum plan is more like the aluminum foil plan. Well, look, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I actually am very glad that Ice Cube did this. I'm glad that people like him and Puff Daddy and Killer Mike have been preaching this ideology and thought pattern that we do need to be approaching both parties. There is no benefit of us being wed to one party without demanding that we have tangibles and deliverables from both sides. So if you talk to the Biden campaign and they said that they'll address it after the election and you talk to the Trump campaign and they say we'll address it now, then by all means do exactly that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 We do not have any eternal friends, no eternal enemies, only eternal interests. And if you look back, there appears a time when African-Americans advanced the most. There appears a time when both parties were competing for a vote. So it takes someone like an ice cube with his credibility in the community to even be able to broach this plan. But I think it is important for us to make sure that we are on both sides of the aisle and working on both sides of the table, because we cannot simply depend on one group with no competition to stand up for us. And look, Vice President Biden waited too long to address black men in this country. He's just now launching the barbershop series in the last couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:30 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's actually, it's factually incorrect. This is, I think, the fifth week of the barbershop series. We've actually restreamed multiple conversations. So it did not launch in the last two weeks. It actually launched about five weeks ago. That's it last few weeks. But to that point, we've been running for president for two years now. So we have to understand that if you're not going to actively campaign to the black men in this country, whether the Trump campaign has worked to campaign to black men in this country, then you can't be surprised when we're seeing 14, 15, 17 points for Republicans
Starting point is 00:46:03 around the nation. And I think that the most important things that regardless of who the president is, that we hold them accountable, whether it's the Biden lift every voice plan or the Trump platinum plan or the aluminum plan or whatever you want to call it, whatever the plan is, let's make sure we get those things done. But here's the deal though. And Michael's real simple. I went through this again, so-called platinum plan. It's a joke. The reality is this year, Donald Trump has in there make Juneteenth a national holiday. That could have taken place this month. Yet Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson was a lone person to block
Starting point is 00:46:37 that from actually happening. Trump talked about making the anti-lynching bill federal law. That was blocked by Senator Rand Paul. Not one time did Donald Trump tweet or say a word about either one of those holidays. In there, Trump talked about, oh, great healthcare. Donald Trump has been promising he has a healthcare plan before he ran for office. Here we are in October 2020, still have not seen a healthcare plan. Also, they keep toutiling this $500 billion. That's not a $500 billion going to black businesses.
Starting point is 00:47:11 That's $500 billion for the entire infrastructure program. That's not what it is. It's a BS plan. It's a joke. And so I don't and I don't know what they pulled from Ice-T's, excuse me, Ice Cube's contract with Black America, because I looked at both. I don't see any of it in their plan. And you're probably you're probably not going to. But I'm just so much largely disappointed with Ice Cube's stance on this to get used. Now, if he's getting used, that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And maybe he wasn't aware, not politically savvy enough. Okay, so we may be giving benefit of the doubt. But if he was contacted by both parties, one party said, one organization said, you know what, let's just wait till after November 3rd. Let's more focus on getting folks out to the polls. We know how important this election is. You know where my heart is.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Clearly, you see where my heart is. You see who I picked as my vice presidential nominee. So let's walk down that path. On the other hand, if he said, you know what, because they want to wait until November 3rd,
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm going to be with this guy, the guy that basically said your ancestors are from shithole countries, the same guy that said, you know what? My father and I are going to rent to people that look like you when we own particular buildings. Or the Central Park file. We can run down a list, a litany of issues related to how racist this president is and how he supports white supremacy. Why would you want to either be used,
Starting point is 00:48:46 unbeknownst to you possibly, or step up and say I'm going to help him because he wanted to move before November 3rd? Either way, it's disappointing, and I hope he does get a lot of pushback. I'm not mad at him at all for his involvement. I'm glad that people in the entertainment world and sports are getting involved and understanding politics
Starting point is 00:49:04 and wanting to make a difference. However, who you're making a difference with. And if you're standing with 45, you're standing with the wrong folks. The thing that jumps out at me here, Scott, on all of this, is that I absolutely agree folks should compete for your vote.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I also am not delusional when it comes to what they are doing. To me, you have to look at the totality of an individual to say exactly what are they doing. So the Trump folks talk about he constantly Trump keeps touting the First Step Act. Now, I think the Democratic Party has been grossly negligent in stating, well, if it wasn't for us, there would be no First Step Act. If it doesn't pass the House, there's no bill. If it's not approved in the Senate, it doesn't even get passed. And they basically let Trump run around saying they've done nothing on criminal justice reform and it only got done because of him.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And that's simply a lie. But also, I think that, again, you must make folks address an agenda. But you also got to be honest about it being real. Again, I went through line by line that platinum plan. All the stuff Trump talked about, Trump could have done the last three and a half years. He didn't. So please, by all means, explain to me how you're all of a sudden going to do something for black people in a second term that you did not bother to do in a first term. But you're absolutely right about that. And but you see, this is the confusion of the black man or some black men, if you will, that somehow that you think you can create leverage by releasing this information to both parties. You have to have two parties. There's only one party
Starting point is 00:51:00 in the United States right now. That's the Democratic Party, like it or not. You may want someone to chase your vote. So what's the GOP? It's the party of Trump. It's a party of political gangsterism. It's a party that attacks our institutions, undermines our democracy, bails us on our international diplomacy, supports Putin, and despite our scientists or despite our CIA. And so there's not a second party.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That's a cult over there. And to think that somehow that you equate them into two parties and that whoever gets to you first, you can release this and stand as a black man, as if the GOP is a party that you can stand with equally on principle, despite your wealth and despite your success in this country, despite your activism for the communities of color, just falls flat. It is complete nonsense. And so if you want to compete and you want leverage, then have those two parties and have that healthy debate. That's not a party. And notice that I didn't say anything about racism. I'm talking about their attack and undermining this country and democracy.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And so I think it's a failed opportunity. I'm not impressed with him releasing this to the GOP. He thinks that's leverage, right? That's dumb. It's just pure nonsense. Again, here's the deal. Factually, Ice Cube Robert did not endorse Donald Trump, didn't say anything along those lines. He simply said, and he said this when he came on the show, he has a contract with Black America that he wants all political leaders to look at and get behind. Absolutely. And to that point about what Donald Trump has done in the first three years of his administration, you can make the exact same argument for Biden
Starting point is 00:52:50 that, well, he has his lift-every-voice plan, but where was that during the eight years of Obama? Where was that in the other 47 years that he was in the Senate? When was he this tireless advocate for the community? I do think that Ice Cube is correct in not endorsing staying neutral, having one singular message, which is that I have a contract with Black America. So hold up. So are you saying
Starting point is 00:53:10 that Obama-Biden did not have any plan or did anything for Black people? No, that's not what I'm saying. Okay, no, no, no, no, no. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, on, that this is individually and specifically for our community, that regardless of who wins and who lose, who lives, who dies, who tells your story meet with and answer the questions and put out their plan for the contract or their opinions regarding the contract with Black America tomorrow. And it would be a moot point. We have to have both parties competing equally with us. And if the Trump campaign did it first, they should get credit for doing it first.
Starting point is 00:54:17 But here's the deal. They're not a political party, though. One second. Here's the deal, though. Are they actually competing equally? No, seriously, are they? Are they actually competing equally? I mean, look, if I walk through this, Donald Trump and his people have made no effort to talk to black America at all. The folks who they've talked to have been black conservative activists. They've done, I don't recall don trump
Starting point is 00:54:46 sitting down other than harris faulkner who's on fox news i don't know any black journalist who he has sat down with i don't know who they've actually talked to when they released their platinum plan michael i reached out to two campaign officials saying y'all releasing it? Who's available to come on? No response whatsoever. You go through this whole deal and you say, okay, we can walk through this. They tout the First Step Act,
Starting point is 00:55:15 but this is the same guy who said we're not going to have police consent decrees. This is the same guy who loves and embraces law enforcement and then goes to Kenosha, Wisconsin, doesn't meet with Jacob Blake's family, doesn't meet with the community. He literally has a law enforcement roundtable. So, again, that's on that particular issue.
Starting point is 00:55:36 We can then talk about economics. All right. OK, we really want to go there. How many black businesses have we lost due to coronavirus? But even before that, they touted all of these black black businesses being started when there were one point nine million black owned businesses. Folks, five years ago, those businesses were doing an average revenue of one hundred and ten thousand dollars. of $110,000. When we got 2.6 million black-owned businesses, which meant 700,000 more,
Starting point is 00:56:09 they were doing an average revenue of 54,000. When we had 1.9 million black-owned businesses, 1.8 million only had one employee, sole proprietorship. When we had 2.6 million black-owned businesses,
Starting point is 00:56:21 2.5 million only had one employee. So the reality is the capacity, Michael, didn't increase. The revenue didn't increase. None of that increased. So when the Trump folks say, oh, we did all of this, no, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So I'm just stating, and not only that, please show me the Trump federal housing plan. No, I haven't seen it. All I know is him telling white women, we ain't going to have low-income housing in your suburban neighborhoods. And so, again, I'm
Starting point is 00:56:52 just walking through. And so the piece is, I judge a person in power differently than I do somebody who's trying to get in power. And so when I look at the plan, that's why I call it the aluminum foil plan.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Michael, go ahead. And frankly, he is a pro at trying to manipulate and use force. He's done a good job at it. And what he does is, and then he hopes that people obviously are watching the news or TV or online, and that they see, oh, my goodness, look what 45 has done. He released a black person from
Starting point is 00:57:31 prison. Oh, my goodness, he did this with Ice Cube. And so he hopes, because he doesn't really care, because if you really want to look at the 150-some-odd, I forget what it is, Roland and Scott, 150 some odd federal judges he's appointed. No, no, no, no. He's appointed a total of 218. Oh, 218. 218, one black. So you got to break down. Was he breathing?
Starting point is 00:58:00 You got to break down. Remember, your district judges, your appellate judges, your circuit judges, three different levels there. And so, again, I think out of the 218, one African-American. Which is a disgrace. And so because of that, he's going to try to highlight other things where he thinks that, oh, my goodness, the black community is going to love me for this. But I really don't care about the black community. I just want to say that I do. And that some, I hate to say it, some folks think, oh my goodness, he really does care. And he doesn't. Just like some of the folks from his so-called base, he said whatever to them, and the same thing occurs. Oh my goodness, he loves us. He doesn't
Starting point is 00:58:41 care about you. He just wants to try to get you either to vote for him or not vote for him. Either way, he takes it as a vote for him, and that's how he tries to use his strategies. So Michael and Roland, this is another thing he does. So he'll do the platinum plan. He will release the woman from prison. And then on the other hand, he'll talk about S-hole countries and Barack Obama not living here. And he'll tweet out white power, and then they take it down. And then what his people will do to defend him when it comes to African-Americans on an urban
Starting point is 00:59:18 agenda that he didn't have, he'll say, yeah, but he did criminal justice reform that wasn't his bill, and he did the platinum plan, and't his bill, and he did the platinum plan, and he and Ice Cube are partnered on the contract with Black America. So he gives his defenders talking points to argue, but they don't argue in regard to all the negatives. So you may have 10 or 15 negative points or acts by this administration that hurt Black people. You'll have three things
Starting point is 00:59:45 that he alleges that he did for black people and say black people love him and that he has enough for talking points. But it's a false reality. It's not a political reality. It's a fallacy. And that's probably why you have some black people, 10 percent or more black men who only read in part of the story, not the whole story. And then they go in and say, I'm going to vote for him because I lost my job to an illegal immigrant. Or they ignore all the other things that he's doing to destroy this country as a super spreader of COVID, for example. One out of every thousand black people have COVID, and he treats it like it's a hoax and what have you. And those issues ought to matter
Starting point is 01:00:25 to all of us, not just Black people, but look at it. 40% of America supports this nonsense. And so that's why the race for Biden to get elected and Harris to get elected is so vitally important, not just to Black people, most importantly to Black people, but for all Americans. It's just complete bullshit. Well, I do think, though, that the responsibility, though, is also on the other party to also define themselves. And that is, if you are- Well, that's true, but- No, no, no, no way. I'm not done. No, no, no, no, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. The country's at stake. No, no, no, excuse me. I'm not getting lost in anything.
Starting point is 01:01:12 What I'm saying is this here. OK, that was a nine point gap between black men and black women for Obama Romney in 2012. That was eight years ago. That was a 13 point gap between Clinton and Trump in 2016, four years ago. Now, if Democrats were so damn clueless and not paying attention to what happened eight years ago and then what happened four years ago. Now, if Democrats were so damn clueless and not paying attention to what happened eight years ago, and then what happened four years ago, then all of a sudden in 2020, you're now going, oh, what do we do? That's on you because that's you not paying attention. It's not like there were not people like me and others who was sounding the alarm. And this issue has nothing to do. And let me be real clear, I had these black women out there who were saying, oh, it's all because of misogyny.
Starting point is 01:01:50 No, it's not. It was a nine-point gap between two men in 2012. Was there misogyny involved with Hillary Clinton? Absolutely. Is that the sole reason? No, it's not. Is Kamala Harris the sole reason in 2020? No, it's not. What I'm saying the sole reason in 2020? No, it's not. What I'm saying is, if you are going
Starting point is 01:02:08 to be a party and you see there's a problem, then you want to create the kinds of messages to actually counter the narrative that you aren't doing anything. Which means the onus is on... I'm not... No, no, hell no!
Starting point is 01:02:24 No, no, no! No, no, hell no! No, no, no! No, no, no! What you're doing right there is making the same damn mistake that black— Short term, I'm not making a mistake. No, no, no, no. What you—no, no. This is the latest—
Starting point is 01:02:34 We got to get rid of Trump. No, no, no, Scott. This is what happens. No, Scott, here's what happens. This is a mistake. This is a mistake. Whenever somebody don't want to deal with the problem at hand, they use the phrase, we got bigger issues.
Starting point is 01:02:44 What I'm saying— We got 20 days. We can't deal with that. No hand, they use the phrase, we got bigger issues. What I'm saying- We got 20 days. We can't deal with that. No, no, you lying. You lying. I had Terrence- It's not too late. Scott, I had Terrence-
Starting point is 01:02:51 You got 20 days to get rid of Trump. No, Scott, Scott, Scott, listen. This is the piece that you're, again, missing. Stop going for, we got bigger problems. I just laid out to you, your bigger problem is this here. If you don't address it, you might lose the Michigan Senate seat and may not control the damn Senate. So guess what? You might want to address this.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Cal Cunningham may not win North Carolina. Their strategy, they need to pick up a four. Doug Jones, here's the deal. They know Jones is going to lose in Alabama. He's down 12, Otavio Tuberville, who's an idiot. Guess what? If you lose Peters, now you got to pick up five. So what I'm arguing to you is, and what I'm saying is, what is the issue here is not Biden-Harris.
Starting point is 01:03:37 What the issue is, there is a belief among a percentage of black men, and let's be clear, the majority of black men, a super majority, are voting for Biden-Harris. But if you see there's 15 to 20% who don't think you're addressing their issues, who don't think you're speaking to them, you cannot write the 20% off. What you better do is appeal to them because if you don't in 2020, it might be 25% in 2024.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Oh, God. Okay, dude, you can sit here. I don't disagree with you. Your analysis is perfect. So what I'm saying is don't use the phrase we got bigger problems. No, your big problem is you keep, we got to take Trump out. You take Trump out by going after every single vote. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:04:33 But Democrats have been burying their heads in the sand. And overall, overall, let me be clear, what they have been doing is, again, you make it easy for your opponent when you, first of all, let them control the narrative. Two, when you also on your end don't actually deliver the black people who've been trying to tell you because you keep only talking to white political consultants. And when you have a changing demographic, Michael, when you have a changing demographic, you might want to listen to the people who got their ears to the ground as opposed to those who got their heads stuck in these iPads and all they're looking at is the data. No, you better listen to the ground. I agree with you, but
Starting point is 01:05:34 you don't have to yell at me. Don't use any nonsense. You ain't got to yell. Don't use any nonsense. And, Roll, the truth is that this is an issue that for Democrats is a very easy solution. If you have
Starting point is 01:05:50 an issue with the fact that Ice Cube met with the Trump campaign, then just tweet out today, we're going to meet with Ice Cube tomorrow, and we fully accept and sign on to the contract with Black America. That's 30 seconds. It shouldn't be that difficult. Even right now, we still have had an issue trying to get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
Starting point is 01:06:05 on black radio around the country, to sit down with black newspapers around the country, to do black media around the country. So you cannot not sign on to the contract with Black America and say, we're going to do it after the campaign, not be on black media. It's one thing to sit down with Cardi B and Lizzo,
Starting point is 01:06:19 but to sit down with black journalists around the country on a consistent basis and have an opportunity to talk to local media, have a direct plan for black men that is not wrapped around. I think they did a commercial of a freestyle battle between some emcees. I know. Talk to me the exact same way you talk to anyone else on policy issues. So when you don't do those things, you don't put that footwork in. And now we're 20 days from the election.
Starting point is 01:06:43 You can't be mad at the result that you get because you've had two years to prepare for this. Michael, look, you've been on the DNC finance committee and, and, and I'm telling you, I'm telling you, um, this is, you know, this is not new to Democrats. They can't act like, whoa, what happened here? Tom Perez has known this since 2016. You know, it's interesting. Every time we have this kind of conversation, it can happen obviously on November 4th, depending on what the results are. But the campaign is doing a heavy outreach to every single constituency group that you can imagine. It doesn't mean, keep in mind, just because you do reach out to a particular constituency group doesn't mean you're going to win.
Starting point is 01:07:33 It means you can do better. It means you can chip away. What you want to do is obviously have as big a tent as possible. Has the campaign, has the DNC for years maybe not done as well as they should have with particular segments of particular constituency groups? Absolutely. But Michael, where are the assets? Where's the collateral? What I'm talking about is what I'm saying is where are the viral videos? Where are the graphics? Where are the things that you can drop on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:08:05 You could drop on Twitter. You could drop on Facebook. The information that first. Look, here's the deal. OK, this is real simple. You don't tell somebody go to Joe Biden dot com. OK, when you hear the phrase low information voters or you hear disaffected voters, that's people. A disaffected voter means somebody who ain't watching cable news, who they're not watching broadcast news. They're not they're not immersed in this. They're not necessarily watching this show. What I'm arguing is you've got to create the messaging, the simple messaging where Republicans are genius. And I have said this my entire life. Republicans are genius at bumper sticks, sticker slogans. They are geniuses. The reason the Lincoln Project.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I mean, this is a perfect example. I saw some some Democrat complaining, calling the Lincoln Project grippers. I said, dude, versus you complaining about them, you should be studying them. They understand messaging. I've always said this. Republicans know how to message short, clear, concise. Democrats want to give you a white paper, a thesis. They want to give you five paragraphs where the Republican gave you a bumper sticker. And so what I'm simply saying, and I'm not saying, let me be real clear, I'm not saying that black men can't understand
Starting point is 01:09:31 deep complex issues. What I am saying is not even just for black men. There were 91 million people people who did not vote in 2016. 75 million poor people in the nation, mostly in the South, who did not vote. What I'm saying is, and Reverend Barber's been talking about this as well, if you also
Starting point is 01:10:00 go hard at them, man, that flips the election, and you talk about a landslide, that flips the election. And you talk about a landslide? That changes the game. Go ahead. And those assets you're talking about, and you're exactly right, and the party hasn't done as well as it should have, up
Starting point is 01:10:15 to GOTV, get out to vote. That's when you'll see the assets. And I don't think the assets should just be used during GOTV. Precisely. You should be engaging people all the way through. They should have been on this after
Starting point is 01:10:31 16. It should have been a clearly defined, funded, targeted program so when you saw it... Then GOTV is much easier. Right. Now these assets come out at the end saying we need to get folks to the polls rather than engaging with them for the last two years. You're exactly right.
Starting point is 01:10:52 That's all I'm saying. What if they didn't have the money during those four years because they lost the election? What is what is that money come from? Because that's the response you get from Perez and his team. No, hold on. I give you your answer. What you do is you pull the data out, and then you go to key funders and donors,
Starting point is 01:11:13 and you say, look, if we don't fix this problem, we're going to have a bigger problem come 2020. And so we're looking to create a $3 million, $5 million a year program specifically targeting this group. So we know. And here's the deal. Let's be real clear, Scott. The Trump campaign said this.
Starting point is 01:11:34 The White House said this in 2018. We think we can get 20% of black men. So it ain't like you didn't know what your opponent was trying to do. They said, this is the play we running. Now you're shocked with running the play. I'm telling you, Robert, you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:11:56 If you listen to the ground, hey, common sense is common sense. You can say Ice Cube, and let me just say this here. Folk can say Ice Cube don't mean nothing. You ain't got to meet with Ice Cube. Numbers are numbers. A meeting is a meeting.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Look, it's politics. You know what you got to do, and you don't give your opponent an upper hand with a demo that you're already weak in. Robert, go ahead. And just on Scott's point of maybe they were out of money for every person who's ever run a campaign, a Democratic campaign in this country, particularly a black Democratic campaign, that is always their answer that, oh, no, we had enough money for outreach to the LGBTQI APK plus community. We had enough money to the Jewish community. We had enough money for outreach to the Asian community. We had enough money for outreach to suburban white house housewives who drive a station wagon and have two point five children. We had enough money for outreach to black women. But, oh, no, we just dang it.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Catch me next week. I just ran out of money. I'll be back the next time. Don't care for real on the fourth. I'll pay you back on the fourth. Even if you're out of money, what is stopping Joe Biden from being on rolling show tomorrow? I don't care how much money you out of. He can get on his phone and be on the show tomorrow. What's stopping him from being on my show on Sunday or Santita Jackson show? Because they don't have the will to do it. Just like in relationships, people make a priority when something is a priority. So it's not making a priority out of you. That just means. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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Starting point is 01:13:36 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, from the Biden campaign. I'm going to move away from the DNC because you asked the question, how do you make them? And now I'm going to talk about internally among black men. Now, I would love to get all y'all thoughts on this. And this is real simple. Black women meet. Black women organize.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Black women mobilize. Black women mobilize. Three of you are politically connected black men. Do y'all know of any entity out there that's actually bringing these black men together? It's a group of black women. Damn near a thousand. Dog, they do a conference call every Sunday night. Are y'all aware
Starting point is 01:14:32 of anything like that with black men? So that's black men organizing themselves. Anybody? Yeah, certainly. The boule. No, no, no. No, no, see right there. No, no, no. The boule. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:47 See, right there. Kappa Alpha Psi. No, no, no. See, Scott? No, no, Scott. Scott, no. No, Scott. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:52 That is so true. Scott, you didn't listen. I participated in it. Scott, Scott. What do you mean, no, no, no? Scott, you didn't listen to what I said. I did. No, Scott, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I listened critically. No, you didn't. I'm trained to listen to you. Especially whether you scream at me or not. I listened to you. No, no didn't. I'm trying to listen critically. I'm trying to listen to you. Especially whether you scream at me or not. I listen to you. No, no, Scott. You said this group, this group, this group. That's insular.
Starting point is 01:15:12 What I'm talking about among the black women, it don't matter your affiliation. There's an entity whether you are AKA or not, whether you are Delta or not, whether you are Lynx or not. You ain't got tied to nothing, whether you're HBCU or not. And what I'm saying is that also is part of the deal because if you do not have an organized and mobilized group to make the demands, then you can't make the demands. I think that's a small distinction you're making. Oh, no, it's a huge distinction.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Hold on. It's a huge distinction. No on. It's a huge distinction. No, no, no. That's not what I said. I know individual organizations because I'm in several. I'm speaking of I am speaking of an organized
Starting point is 01:15:57 entity comprised of black men from multiple different backgrounds that are specifically mobilized and organized to raise money, talk about strategy and policy on these issues. Robert, you're about to say something. Go ahead. Well, I think. Let me think about it, Robert.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Yeah, you need to think about it. Go ahead, Robert. I think we understand that there is a thirst for a backing a backing infrastructure of of that uh of that nature but you have to have the funding behind it behind those groups robert robert robert those black women don't have they got that's self-funded no no no these are black women i'm telling you dude every sunday night they own a call these black women got I'm telling you, dude, every Sunday night they own a call. These black women got the, it was like, yo, we got to do this thing. The election, we going to meet broad. They from all different backgrounds. It ain't, they didn't go out and go raise a million dollars and now we're going to meet. They said, we're going to meet and the hell we're going to raise
Starting point is 01:17:01 money ourselves. They literally are meeting, mobilizing, talking strategy, having campaign people on the call, raising money. All I'm saying is, are the three of y'all aware of anything like that that's not insular in terms of an organization, but that's broad, that's specifically about black men? Anybody? broad that's specifically about black men. Anybody. Yeah, Mondale Robinson's got the Black Male Voter Project, which is trying to achieve that goal. I have no disrespect. What's wrong with that? No disrespect. I had Mondale on this show discussing that very thing.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I ain't heard from them since. They're still out there working, so we need to be getting in there and supporting them the next 20 days. As bad as the organizations don't exist, we just simply have to make sure that all groups are on the same page. All I'm saying is this here. I got nothing against Mondale, but here's my whole point.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Okay, Michael, I had them on. I have not received a single thing from that initiative since I had them on. I got respect for them. I don't know what they're doing. I'm just simply saying where you're at. So, Michael, what I'm describing, Michael, that black women are doing right now, do you know of anything like that the black men are doing? Not as sophisticated as you just articulated, no.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Scott, somebody that is listening, send me a text right now. The answer is no. Send me a text right now. So basically, Michael was the only one who asked the question by saying, no, hell no, I don't know if it exists. Because you're too narrow in your description.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Matter of fact, I'm not narrow. And the organized groups. Actually, that's where you're too narrow in your description. Matter of fact, I'm not narrow. The fraternities and the organized groups. Actually, that's where you're missing it. We don't know. That's where you're missing it. You say I'm narrow. Actually, what I describe is broad. Okay, here's the deal.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Can a man who's not a Kappa participate in the Kappa conversations? Yes, as well as the Boulay. They can participate. Yes, they can participate. I didn't even know y'all meeting. Because we give them notice and stuff. They're on the email track for political action. We don't keep people out of those conversations. I'm not talking about meetings.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I'm talking about conversations. Scott, this is why the phrase was created. Your scenario is whack. Your scenario is whack. Really? Let's move on to another subject. Okay, now hold on. When was y'all last... I'd like to move on to another subject. When was the last public CAPA conversation about black men in politics? When was it? You just said it wasn't a CAPA conversation because there were non-CAPAs involved.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Okay, when was the last boom? I'm on a text link that has thousands of people talking politics. They're not all CAPAs. They're not all from Morehouse. Oh. What about Morehouse men who do that? I can tell you right now the Alumni Association does that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And again, though, you're describing individual entities. What I'm saying is... Labels don't matter. It's the level of participation that is the issue of your thousand person woman. So you said there are thousands of men on this text thing, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Talking politics, talking about what they're doing in their local community. Wait, wait. So are these thousand plus black men? Are they black men? No, no, wait. Are they mobilized and organized? And are they directly dealing with the Biden-Harris campaign? Now you're adding facts.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I don't know about all that. What I'm saying is those conversations have taken place. Let's move on, please. First of all, it ain't your show. Oh, here we go. That is the most selfish statement you make to me. And you don't make it to anybody else. Why don't you make that to Michael?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Scott doesn't want to deal with the overarching point I'm saying. And what I am describing is the exact. I get it. Is the exact. Robert, this is the exact same thing I said to Ice Cube, which was the whose job is to get that very thing. What it can't be is a loose federation of what that group and that group and then that group and then that group. Because what you're not doing is you're not coming to power with power.
Starting point is 01:21:22 You're coming as an individual. What I'm arguing, Robert, is when you take these black women who are meeting every Sunday, agenda, raising money, I mean, every single week, that's called organized and mobilized.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And what I am arguing is that if we want to see what we're discussing change for black men, black men and organizations are going to have to move outside of their walls and open it up to anyone. And then to create that infrastructure to achieve what we're talking about. Otherwise, it ain't gonna get done. Robert, final comment. And I agree with you completely, but that's why I keep keying in on the point about funding.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Because when you look at these fundraising totals that Joe bought in the raising $352 million, how much of that money is being invested into organizations of that nature? Because you are depending on getting 90% of that vote. So you have every reason to be putting money into those initiatives. And if you're not putting your money where your mouth is, you're going to end up with these results. And you can't be mad at them. And what I and what I'm trying to get you to understand is that those black women are not sitting there waiting for the party or a campaign to raise money and give to them by them mobilizing and organizing.
Starting point is 01:22:43 They're raising the money themselves. I got to go. Let me jump in real quick. 100 Black men, Black professional men, do those qualify? They blow it up in my text with organization. Or if it's an organization, you don't want to deal with it. No, no. You still are missing what I am saying. I know. They're not connected by any end. And the point is, if they are not connected, then they are not being coming with a with a group of people speaking as a collective. And if you speak as a collective, you're likely to actually get a response. Got to go to break. We come back more on Roland Martin Unfiltered in a moment. And there are a lot of people, they don't know if they can.
Starting point is 01:23:31 They don't know what to do, how to do it, where to do it. They get, you know, all these documents and pamphlets in the mail, but they don't really understand how to dig through and figure it all out. So I think, you know, the solution, because I'm all about solutions, is figuring out a way to introduce, reintroduce that into the school system. And I think getting people together who are like-minded, if you don't know exactly what's happening, I think the first thing is don't be ashamed of that.
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Starting point is 01:25:19 And we're here, and we ain't going nowhere. That was my man, Reverend Dr. William J. Barber and the Poor People's Campaign. Please support what they are doing. Two former students are suing a prestigious private school in Atlanta over sexual assault. Pace Academy did not protect the students who were sexually assaulted on campus by another student three years ago, according to a lawsuit. The assailant was later convicted for the assaults. The victims have filed lawsuits against the academy, including the headmasters,
Starting point is 01:26:01 deans, and counselors. Joining me now is Atlanta attorney Tricia C.K. Hoffler, president also. She's president of the National Bar Association. So, Tricia, tell us about this case here. So what really happened here at this prestigious school? Well, first of all, it's so good to be on your show again, Roland. But what happened basically is there were two students, and we have to call them Jane Does, because they were underage at the time that it happened. They were Jane Doe One, who's my client. She had been at Pace Academy since the third grade. She was sexually violated by a student, a football player, not once, not twice, but three times.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And the first time it happened, she tried to report it to a teacher who basically blew her off. The second time it happened, she just basically recoiled and didn't report it. And the third time it happened, she collapsed and was sobbing hysterically, called her mom, reported it to the teachers, and her mother called the police and an investigation ensued. From that, the assailant, they did a little investigation at the school and they brought him back on campus. Now, her mother took her out of the school, took her out of Pace Academy, even though she had been there for three, since third grade, even though she had been an ambassador of the school, even though she had been a great student, a great athlete, contributed a lot. And even though Pace was like her second home, when the school failed to protect her child and decided to bring the assailant back on campus and let him continue to play football and put profits before the children, her mother said,
Starting point is 01:27:37 no, no, no, no. She immediately took her child out, put her in another school. And as you can well imagine, when behavior like that is unchecked, within six months, put her in another school. And as you can well imagine, when behavior like that is unchecked, within six months, he sexually violated another student. And I represent both of those young ladies who are now in college in their lawsuit, and they're Jane Doe 1 and Jane Doe 2. So that's what happened. How is the school responding? Well, they're not taking responsibility. That's how they're responding. They're failing to take responsibility, failing to recognize.
Starting point is 01:28:11 First of all, they didn't believe Jane Doe won. And they brought the student back into the place, actually to the detriment of all the students. And he did it again. So they didn't take responsibility. The board of directors, along with the administration and the manager, made a decision to bring that student back, even though it was reported there was a police investigation. They made that decision, so they did not take responsibility. They did not care about the welfare of a child. And this is a private school, a very prestigious private school, that is supposed to have a very, very secure, safe environment for the students, but they did everything the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Everything. They didn't protect her. They betrayed her. They turned their backs on her. And they took the side of the football player, who, by the way, had just started at the school. And that's why I said putting profits before the children, because as a football player, he brought some notoriety to the team and all of that.
Starting point is 01:29:06 And so they just decided they were going to side with him. There was a criminal conviction. He was tried in juvenile court and there was conviction for Jane Doe number one. And then he pled for Jane Doe number two. And the way that he pled was to hand him out to a conviction. So this is very, very, very serious. They didn't take them seriously. And by the way, these are two young black girls. Were police involved?
Starting point is 01:29:33 Was law enforcement ever involved in this? Yes, law enforcement was involved. The third assault that took place, the young girl, when she collapsed and was crying hysterically, she called her mother. Her mother took matters into her own hands and called the police, and a police investigation took place. And all of that, the police investigation, all the evidence that was assembled was presented in the criminal proceeding where he was convicted. Wow. So you filed a lawsuit in civil. What is the next step? The next step is just we're going to litigate the heck out of this case.
Starting point is 01:30:12 The voices of these young girls must be heard. The school must take accountability, must take responsibility for not protecting these children. Because when those parents sent their daughters to that school every single day, when they supposedly have cameras everywhere, by the way, no cameras allegedly captured any of this, cameras everywhere in this environment, they expected that their children would be protected. And they expected that if there's something happened to their child, a teacher wouldn't blow them off. And more importantly, when the child did report it and when there was police involved, they expected that the school would take appropriate measures. Believe that, child, because there was enough evidence to support it.
Starting point is 01:30:52 It should not have taken a full-blown criminal case to convict him for them to decide they're going to take it seriously. So keeping this person who actually was tantamount to a sexual predator on that campus with other girls, with other students, so that he could violate some other student is simply inexcusable, unacceptable, and not the way that you would expect any school,
Starting point is 01:31:19 public or private, to act when confronted with someone who did something wrong and violated another student's body. That is just not what's supposed to happen. They got to do better. They got to be accountable. And that's what this litigation is about, accountability. Tricia Hoffler, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much for letting us know about this. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. All right, folks, the Supreme Court approved requests that allows the Trump administration
Starting point is 01:31:43 to end the 2020 census early. The U.S. Census Bureau announced that it will keep accepting responses online at my2020census.gov through October 15th at midnight. The Bureau has also set October 15th as the postmarked deadline for paper forms, as well as the end date for collecting phone responses and door knocking at unresponsive households. For those people who don't think that elections matter, they do. And so please, folks, fill out that census. Now, what's also happening, though, there are several members of Congress. Remember, Congress has the authority to determine how long the census goes. They are looking at a bipartisan bill to actually
Starting point is 01:32:21 fix this issue. We'll see what happens with that. Brigham Young University, Idaho warns about accounts of college students who are trying to contract COVID-19 in order to make money by donating plasma with antibodies. University officials previously cautioned last month that if there is a continued surge in coronavirus cases, the university may switch to fully online learning. Brigham Young University of Idaho has 109 confirmed COVID-19 cases among students and 22 cases among employees. Speaking of coronavirus, the White House has been open to a group of doctors who are advocating for the herd immunity approach to the coronavirus pandemic.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Scientists who are behind the proposed plan argue that if the virus spreads naturally among young people, healthy people while protecting vulnerable populations, herd immunity could be achieved. The plan has been signed by more than 447,000 citizens and more than 9,500 medical practitioners. However, it has been widely criticized by mainstream public health experts. The head of the World Health Organization called the herd immunity approach simply unethical. Speaking of that, we now know that Barron Trump, Donald Trump's son, was tested positive for coronavirus. Now, his mother, Melania Trump, tweeted,
Starting point is 01:33:35 Post said that he is getting better, did not show any symptoms whatsoever, but it's clear that the coronavirus outbreak in the White House was much more widespread than we believe. And also, Robert Petillo, guess what? Nick Saban, head coach of the University of Alabama and the athletic director, both have tested positive for coronavirus. Does that mean the people in Alabama
Starting point is 01:33:54 are going to say this damn thing is not real? Well, more importantly, Georgia plays Alabama coming up, so they better not, one, try to move the game. But look, if Coach Saban can't be there and the dogs win, you know, that's on you. Survival of the fittest, I think. But back to the concept of herd immunity, that's got to be the stupidest, dumbest, most, no medical professional, no actual immunologist or public health official has said anything about her immunity for a reason. That even if you have 1% mortality rates with 300 million people in this country, if you simply said let the virus run wild, you're talking about sacrificing millions of people
Starting point is 01:34:36 just so you don't have to wear a mask. And to say that that's unethical, that's unconscionable. And anybody who would suggest that, I think you have to check their belief system at the door. Last week at the Rainbow Post Coalition 21st Annual Creating Opportunities Conference, we had our public health town hall with regards to the African-American community with Dr. Fauci, Dr. Deborah Verholden, Dr. Leon McDougal from the National Medical Association. And we have protocols in place which could bring this outbreak to an end if people simply took it seriously. I don't get the herd immunity thing, Michael. That's kind of crazy. Well, it's mass murder. I mean, that's what it is. You can spin it and curl it up and make it look as pretty and sound as pretty as you would like,
Starting point is 01:35:23 but millions of people would have to die to have herd immunity. And so if this is the kind of country we are, to say, OK, you know what? Every one, you know, one in two families are going to lose somebody, but we'll have herd immunity if that's the direction folks want to go. But again, if you read that, elections have consequences. So if you reelect this kind of thinking on November 3rd, and obviously early voting has started already all over the country, but if that's the kind of country you want, you know who to vote for. If that's not the kind of country you want,
Starting point is 01:35:58 and you want to wear a mask that takes, I don't know, two seconds to put on when you're out in public, it's safe. It keeps people safe. It keeps your family safe. It keeps people I don't know, two seconds to put on when you're out in public. It's safe. It keeps people safe. It keeps your family safe. It keeps people you don't know safe. It's about as patriotic as it gets. Then you know who to vote for. It's pretty easy relative to how to deal with this COVID issue and who to support.
Starting point is 01:36:20 So it's mass murder. It's dumb. The fact that folks are even raising it as a real issue is it's frankly just as real as putting bleach in your system. It's stupid and idiotic. First of all, listen to any of these idiots is crazy, Scott. And I'll be damned if I'm going to get coronavirus purposely. I'm good. I'm good. You know, I'm trying to get coronavirus purposely. I'm good. No, I'm good. I ain't trying to screw my lungs up. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And long-term deficits are long-term issues, even if you survive. But understand the specifics of the herd mentality. With a country of 350 million people, 330 million people, you're talking about infecting millions of young people, keeping middle-aged and older people safe if you can do that. eight or more million people die to save the country from corona as opposed to shutting down using mass physical distancing washing your hands and just kind of getting through it in a very safe manner where you're saving as many lives as possible that's a huge difference a smaller
Starting point is 01:37:43 country might be able to do that, but even that failed in a couple of the countries that tried that. I don't think it was Switzerland, it was something else. But you're talking about on a massive scale, Michael's right, it's just mass murder. But you think about the people who signed on to that, that's amazing. Right, but they crazy. Robert, go ahead real quick. Just real quick on that point. Let's understand. I'm in Seattle right now doing the show for my sister's guest room.
Starting point is 01:38:12 You have a really super fan across the street, Aaron. We saw them walking this morning. His wife had her Rolling Martin unfiltered shirt on. That's what I'm saying. Meanwhile, out here in Olympia, Washington. But we have all adapted to coronavirus. We all understand that instead of being in the studio in D.C., we can do it from our laptop anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 01:38:31 So how is the idea of infecting hundreds of millions of people with a deadly pandemic and hoping that it only takes out one to two percent of them a better idea than simply adapting to it as everyone else. And notice the people who are proponents of herd immunity, like President Trump and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and Chris Christie, the minute that they get it, they don't do herd immunity. They get state-of-the-art experimental treatments that can cure you in three days. The rest of us just have to die. That's exactly what it is. All right, folks, y'all know what time it is. White people or no? Crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Wild enough. I'm white. I got you i know i'm on my property all right y'all amy cooper sometimes publicly called the Central Park Karen, has been charged with filing a false report in a confrontation with a black man in Central Park in May. She's charged with falsely reporting an incident in the third degree in her confrontation with Christian Cooper. According to prosecutors, there was a previously undisclosed second 911 call where she said he assaulted her. She appeared in court virtually, and Assistant District Attorney Joan Luzia Orban said she would discuss a rehabilitative program with the defense. The judge set the next hearing for November 17th. Now, check this out, y'all.
Starting point is 01:39:55 A Trump supporter identified as Robert Brissett was filmed taunting Black Lives Matter supporters with homophobic slurs before violently coughing on them at a gas station in Utah. You Democrats, black lives don't matter, all lives matter. You, you look like a little candy ass piece of shit. You, so do you.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I'm sorry. I'm so scared of your fucking virus. You know what, I can charge you with assault for hitting me. I can charge you for assault for hitting me. Get the fuck off. That's enough of your fucking shit. That's also assault for talking. Fuck you. I keep telling y'all, whoop that ass. First of all, you're coughing in my face. He says, I can charge you with assault. With coronavirus going on, that might not hold up in court, Scott.
Starting point is 01:41:14 So you're a lawyer, and it's a coronavirus deal. Dude comes over, minding your business, starts coughing in your face, cannot whoop his ass. Is that assault? No, actually, courts have ruled previously, in previous cases, not with regards to coronavirus, but other communicable diseases that
Starting point is 01:41:33 any attempt to infect another individual against their will is a form of assault. You can argue that it would be a self-defense situation, but the little guy in the red shirt did try to hit him one time, so I think that might count. Well, it depends on whether it was met with reasonable force or not. But it's worse if he knew he had Corona or may have Corona.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Let's say he didn't, and he gives it to them, and they can trace it, and he dies, let alone he is incapacitated for any amount of time. You're talking about criminal assault. You're talking about a civil lawsuit. So what you're saying is, what you're saying is, I could whoop his ass if I'm protesting and he walks over and starts coughing in my face. I say yes. Yeah, that would probably invite an ass whooping. You can't kill him, though.
Starting point is 01:42:22 You have to meet force with reasonable force. I didn't say kill him. I said whoop his ass. Michael, how hard you going to hit him? Because he weaponized the cough. He didn't cough by mistake. It was a cough directly at the people, knowing it would scare them. The people that got coughed up.
Starting point is 01:42:39 It was intentional. So, yes, Scott, you could whoop his ass. Cool. That's all I wanted to know. How hard you going to hit him? Hey, we'll get to that later. We'll get to that later. But if you cough in my face.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Say it again, Robert. You place the victim in a reasonable apprehension of a felonious touch. So that would vitiate a use of self-defense in any state. Okay. So that's a nicer way. Very professional.-defense in any state. Okay. Okay. So that's a nicer way. Very professional. Yes, you can whip his ass. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:43:08 But keep my card with you. Yeah. No, I'm going to call Robert. All right. I appreciate it, Scott, Robert, Michael. Thank you so very much. All right, y'all. Thanks, Robert.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Every Wednesday we have our tech segment. Roll it. Actually, we're going to do this here, folks. I'm going to get one more break in, then we're going to come back for our tech segment on Roller Mart Unfiltered. Back in a moment. We have to try and get to young people and make them matter, especially Latinos. Because like you said, we're the fastest growing demographic in the country. I myself talk to people all the time.
Starting point is 01:44:02 They're like kids, the kids in my family that are now eligible to vote, they're like, yeah, but, you know, it's just such a big task. It's so overwhelming. And I'm like, yeah, we're not changing the world in one day. We're just trying to make a small difference, and you do matter. Your vote does matter. We'll be right back. our headset where you can watch the 360 degree video with these headsets and also the four degree 360 degree headphones which have amazing bass sound so if you want to get these here folks you'll go to seek.com go ahead and pull up the code folks seek.com c-e-e-k.com promo code r-m-b-i-p
Starting point is 01:44:57 2020 r-m-b-i-p 2020 and we certainly thank seek black-owned company, for being a partner here at Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, the I Love Black People campaign to mobilize voters in battleground states. Well, that's kind of important. And so they are using, of course, technology, but also T-shirts, which is amazing how popular they've gotten. So check this out. Here are the shirts right here, folks. And what's interesting about these shirts, they actually have a QR code on the shirts, which if somebody sees it, they obviously can then get information about voting. Joining me now is Jarvis Houston. He is a spokesman for Love Black People. So, Jarvis, who came up with this idea?
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yes, how you doing, Fred? The idea came from our founder, Sinclair Skinner, who was a Howard alum, a member of Kappa Alpha Psi, but we won't do anything for him for that. He came up, he called me one day about the idea to run a first ever black business get out the vote drive, where we're mobilizing Black businesses in all 10 battleground states and also the state of Mississippi. And the program is extremely simple. We send window signs and T-shirts to Black-owned and Black-friendly businesses in any of the battleground states, such as my Dominican brother at Luna's Groceries and Medicine, Wisconsin, or my sister with Honey Sage in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or my friend that
Starting point is 01:46:25 has a bodega in Flint, Michigan, and Brother Seafood in Flint, Michigan, for example. They give out t-shirts to their customers. They educate them about voting. And it's simple. They hit the QR code, and then that automatically educates you about voting, such as provisional balloting. Most of us don't understand provisional ballots. If you're turned away from the polls, such as an ID issue in North Carolina or some other issue in Wisconsin, by law, you can still fill out and cast your ballot via provisional ballots. So our goal is educating the voters, number one.
Starting point is 01:47:03 And also, instead of someone sending you a random text and knocking on your door or calling people that you don't know, it's a lot more powerful if you have a black business owner that knows your grandma, knows your kids, The black businesses, they looked at progress before profit. And the same thing today, years and years later, that we have these black businesses all working together, mobilizing over 500,000 voters and 10 battleground states in the state of Mississippi to get folks out to vote. And during the program, they're mobilizing customers. And each customer is mobilizing five people. We're calling it Arrival Five, Arrival Five People at the Post, or Arrival Five People by getting five people to send absentee voting or early voting or any type of voting. The goal is to get 500,000 people to vote via organizing black businesses in battleground states in the state of Mississippi. So how many different shirts do y'all have?
Starting point is 01:48:07 We have one shirt. We have one shirt. We have the I Love Black People t-shirt that has the QR code, and we also have window signs. You know, if I'm walking down Brooklyn or Chicago on the main street or Raleigh, North Carolina, you have the area where you have the black businesses.
Starting point is 01:48:23 So it's very powerful to see these window signs instead of the same old political sign where you see somebody's face and sign. You say, okay. But when you see, I love black people and I'm a proud black-owned business, and you come in, we sign you up, get your information,
Starting point is 01:48:39 such as your phone number to send you a text message or your email address, and then we start mobilizing you to vote because me being in politics, you can't just get someone to vote just just talking to them one time. You got to send them a text. You got to send them a telegram. You got to call them. You got to knock on their door. You got to make a you got to make a phone call. You also got to touch them face to face. So we're using every means possible to hit the person at least five to seven times before election day. All right, then. And so how many of these have you sold thus far? We have distributed about 50,000 T-shirts.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Wow. Wow. All right, then. And so. All right. So when the election is over, what are you going to do then? I mean, y'all can do this with all kinds of stuff. So, I Love Black People is an established black startup. We started about two years ago. We have an office in Washington, D.C., and we also have an office in Zimbabwe in Africa. Actually, we have over 50,000 members worldwide. Most of our members are actually in the continent of Africa. So we will continue, and I love Black People as a Black tech startup that
Starting point is 01:49:48 uses the foundations of the Green Book to protect Black people from racism and xenophobia. We're the only race of people that, before we go out to country, like I went to Captain Henning in March, I had to figure out, is this race is there? Are my organs going to get taken? Is something going to happen to me? And what I love, Black
Starting point is 01:50:04 people, if I go to anywhere in the world, I have a list of black-owned and black-friendly businesses that I can go to, I can feel safe. Our dear brothers George Floyd and Michael Brown, one of the reasons they're not with us today, because they went to business that they thought that supported them. And the business called the police on them. Domino effect, and you know what happened to them. They're not with us today. So we want to make sure that we provide safe spaces to black people throughout the world by providing black-owned and black-friendly places by going to our app or going to the All Love Black People website, using technology such as Uber. Even 10 years ago, if I tried to take a cab in D.C., that was a problem.
Starting point is 01:50:42 In New York, it was a problem. But, like, with ride shares like Uber, they're not perfect, but it does curb racism a little bit by providing, using technology to protect us. And with all the black people, we're using the foundations of the Green Book that 50, 60 years ago, our great-grandparents and our grandparents, Brother Martin,
Starting point is 01:51:01 had to use the Green Book. And now, unfortunately, we have 50, 60 years later, we still have to use the foundations of Green Book to protect us as black people throughout the world from racism and xenophobia. And that's very problematic. So, look, there's an opportunity
Starting point is 01:51:18 here again. We're living... It's interesting. I was sitting here. I was looking at something. I remember when the QCAT came out and it was widely panned and it was all about the QR codes. And frankly, it was one of the technologies that was way ahead of its time because we were simply not there. Now, of course, like, for instance, you don't even need the separate app for the iPhone. You just simply use your camera. Boom. Takes you right to the Web site. And so this really makes it a lot easier.
Starting point is 01:51:45 You know, since y'all doing that, I might have to hit my designer. And so we do our Roland Martin unfiltered shirts. We may put our Cash App QR code on the back. So when somebody sees it, they can just give right there. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. We also have, we also put the QR code on our flyers and on our window signs. So if the person has a quick question, they hit the QR code, especially millennials and younger people, even older people, you know, they hit the jobs because of COVID, and we know someone that lost their life because of COVID. And that's systemic racism. That's the world that we live in today. And people are having anxiety about voting. So if you have a black leader, a black business
Starting point is 01:52:34 owner, a minister, and you also have technology, you know, in your hand, and you feel a little bit at ease, that pushes you more to be willing to vote, especially if you feel like, I don't have an ID, or I'm an ex-offender, and I know I can vote, but I'm kind of scared. Now, if you're educated, you understand provisional balance, and you understand the laws in your state, that can push you more and give you the confidence to vote.
Starting point is 01:52:59 And that's what we're doing. We're educating you and providing you the confidence and leadership and education to get you out to vote. All right. And that's why you an alpha man. Jarvis, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. All right. Thank you, brother. All right. Take care. I love blackpeople.com.
Starting point is 01:53:15 All right, y'all. One of the reasons why we want y'all to support what we do here at Roland Martin Unfiltered is because of segments just like that. Here you have a segment that's sponsored by a black company, MarySpielSeek.com, and then you have us highlighting black technology companies and the work that they're doing with ILoveBlackPeople.com.
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Starting point is 01:57:05 Robert Young. Thanks a lot. And Melanie Gross. I appreciate it, Melanie. Aaron Donaldson. Thank you so very much. All right, folks, that's it for me. Tomorrow, of course, we're going to have more.
Starting point is 01:57:20 We did not talk about Amy Coney Barrett. We're going to discuss it tomorrow. Some questions asked of her by both Senator Kamala Harris and Cory Booker regarding issues of race. She didn't answer nothing. And so, look, her confirmation is a foregone conclusion. We're still, of course, going to have that on tomorrow's show. All right, folks, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
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