#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Vance ‘Big Ugly Bill’ Flop in Philly, Human Trafficking Office Cut & USDA Ends Black Farmer Support

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

7.18.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered:Vance ‘Big Ugly Bill’ Flop in Philly, Human Trafficking Office Cut & USDA Ends Black Farmer Support Vice President JD Vance hit Philly to hype Trump's... "One Big Beautiful Bill," but Pennsylvanians aren't buying the spin as this law slashes food and health benefits for thousands across the state. We'll get reaction from State Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta and Senator Vincent Hughes, breaking down the real impact on working families. Plus, Trump moves to shut down federal sex trafficking prevention programs--putting vulnerable communities at risk. The U.S. Department of Agriculture is ending a 35-year effort that gave targeted support to farmers of color. And historic Black-owned radio station WURD is rocked by layoffs... Dr. James Peterson joins us to unpack what this means for Black media in Pennsylvania. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?
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Starting point is 00:02:30 Black crowd. Support this man, black media. He makes sure that our stories are told. Thank you for being the voice of black America, Roland. Hey, Black, I love y'all. All momentum we have now, we have to keep this going. The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black, I love y'all. All the momentum we have now, we have to keep this going.
Starting point is 00:02:45 The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be skate. It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home, you dig? Yeah. Hey, folks, today is Friday, July 18th, 2025, coming up on Rollerblunt Unfiltered, streaming live on Black Star Network. We are here in Philadelphia, where Alpha by Alpha fraternity incorporated
Starting point is 00:03:45 is holding their national convention. So it's always good to see the brothers, the black and old goal. We'll talk with the general president about some issues in terms of what this convention is focused on. Bishop William Barber spoke here yesterday. Also we'll hear from former general president, Edward Ward talking about the Alpha's
Starting point is 00:04:02 political action committee, the role they're gonna play in the 2026 national midterms. Also, vice president, J.D. Vance, that liar was in Philadelphia touting the new tax bill, but he was really ignoring the impact that it's going to have on folks in Philadelphia and in Pennsylvania to all the broke white folks in this state. Y'all gonna get screwed. Just letting y'all know. Also on today's show, we'll talk about Donald Trump. We told y'all they don't like black people.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Now they're ending a 35-year program that helped out farmers of color, including black farmers. And all those simple Simon Negros who said Kamala Harris and Donald Trump were the same, y'all look pretty damn stupid right now. Also on today's show, we're talking about WURD, a historic black radio station, facing some financial issues.
Starting point is 00:04:53 How are they gonna be able to survive in this climate? We'll talk to one of their on-air hosts as well. Lots we're gonna break down. It is time to bring the funk, 06 style, right here. I'm Roland Martin Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. He's rolling, putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling, it's Uncle Ro Ro, y'all
Starting point is 00:05:34 It's rolling, Martin, yeah Rolling with rolling now He's funky, he's fresh, he's real, the best you know He's rolling now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's rolling Martel. Now. Martel. Folks, we're broadcasting here in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia to be exact. Some 7,000 Alphas are here for the national convention, and so we are here as well.
Starting point is 00:06:13 In a couple of hours, the Step Show is going to be taking place behind us, and so it's going to be jam-packed, and so we're here broadcasting and glad to be back in Philadelphia. Also here today is the useless vice president, JD Vance. He was here touting the Donald Trump tax bill, talking about how it's going to really help folks in Pennsylvania, but he happened to skip over some of the stuff that they're going to get really screwed. So we're going to talk about that right now with state Senator Vincent Hughes. Of course, he has to deal with the money here in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:06:45 chair of the Senate Democratic Appropriations Committee. We also, of course, have Theresa London, principal and founder, TML Communications, Candace Kelly, legal analyst and host of Not All Hood. And so glad to have them here. Senator Hughes, always good to see you. So his was crazy. This is a state that Trump won.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And they always talk about outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is Alabama in the middle. And what's crazy to me, and I keep saying is how these broke white folks in this country, they always talk about black people voting Democrats, about voting against our interests. Yet they keep voting against their interests. You got about a hundred and four to 150,000 people who are going to lose Medicaid in this state. You talk about snap benefits, any number of different things. What the hell are these people thinking that they thought was going to happen?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Well, the saying goes, Roland, and thank you for coming back to Philadelphia once again. Welcome to the good brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha Incorporated. It's Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Alabama in the middle. All right? And that's been the same for decades. What we know is this, is white folks, that particular crew made the conscious decision to once again vote against their best interests. The thing that's so diabolical about it this time, or so alarming about it this time, is that everyone, they, were told upfront what the deal was going to
Starting point is 00:08:10 be with Project 2025. Right up front. And they still made the conscious decision to vote against their own interests. And so what's playing itself out is the reduction in SNAP benefits, is the reduction in healthcare. The one that hasn't been talked about a lot, Roland, and we gotta find some time in future conversations of what's happening in higher education and the cost, the new cost, that are gonna be had with respect to repayment
Starting point is 00:08:38 of your student loans. Well, repayment of student loans, they also are making changes to Pell grants as well. They're capping. Capping, as well. They're capping. Capping. They're capping for graduate programs. So now you're talking about people who are going to graduate school. They're capping the amount of loans you can get.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So they're basically saying if you don't already have the means, you're screwed when it comes to being able to go to graduate programs. Absolutely. All of those things happening across the board. It is the worst time in the history of this country, as we see this reduction of all of these programs, the protections in the civil rights spaces and housing and education and all of the various different, in health care, discrimination in health care, which essentially, since there are no protections in place, all of that will
Starting point is 00:09:21 be allowed to continue. And the bottom line is, obviously, it's going to be hell for us, okay, but probably an unanticipated pain for them. And they're going to have to go through it. They need to understand, and everybody needs to understand, that no state in this country has the financial capacity to pick up the loss of resources that are coming from Washington, D.C. No state in the country. So as they start running to Harrisburg, okay, Senator Hughes, we need some help with this.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Senator Hughes, we need some help with that. We made it very clear. Some of us, right after the November election, we can't afford the loss of resources from Washington, D.C. They voted for it. Now all of us are going to pay for it. They will, and they did not anticipate it, even though they were told this was going to happen. See, listen, I'm petty.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I know they call me King Petty. I'm petty. And I know you're not going to do it. I know y'all not gonna do it I'm telling you right now if any of those county folk In Pennsylvania were coming to my office. I was a hold on one second Check out the numbers Your county voted for Trump. I Would be petty
Starting point is 00:10:43 Here's the reason I and the reason reason reason I that's important, because I think they gotta be reminded. They need to. Now, you're coming, they're gonna be coming to you, saying, Senator Hughes, we need some help. No, no, no, but this is why your county's losing two, three million dollars. Oh, y'all voted for Trump. Roland, every Republican, and this is what, and you have this platform to address and reach folks at all levels. Every state Republican House member, every state Republican Senator who was quiet, and all of them were quiet when all these cuts were anticipated, where all these cuts were projected.
Starting point is 00:11:27 They were quiet. They need to be held accountable. Not just the ones in Washington, the ones at the state level who knew that this was going to happen. Here's an example. Forty rural counties in Pennsylvania, 26 of those rural counties, the hospital is the number one health care provider, but the number one employer, the number one business generator, the economic generator.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And as we keep saying, we talk about the hospital, it provides the jobs, but that's how the convenience store stays in business, the restaurant stays in business, all these things are around it. So hospital leaves, all of that's gone. And they're projected to close. They're projected to close. They said to their federal representatives, we're going to shut down. They said to their state Republican representatives,
Starting point is 00:12:17 we are going to close. We cannot handle this. They need to be held accountable, not just the folks in Washington, but the folks at the state level as well. And that message has got to go out to every state legislator, every constituent that is in these rural communities. Now, we're going to catch hell in Philadelphia. We're going to catch hell in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:12:39 We're going to catch hell in Milwaukee. The old way of providing healthcare services to those communities will be generated back into the emergency room. Most expensive care, not necessarily the best care, but it'll be back in those emergency rooms. But those folks who voted for Donald Trump, especially those Republican legislators,
Starting point is 00:13:00 must be held accountable. Our state Democrats here, is a state Democratic party prepared to document and call out every stance. And here's what I mean. When the rural hospital in North Carolina closed, the first person who died was a white woman who died. She had to be airlifted like 65 miles away. She died. To me, this is one of those things
Starting point is 00:13:25 where state Democratic parties should say so and so. Got sick, hospital closed, had to travel X, she or he passed away. That's on you. See, to me, this is where it can't be a generalization. It has to be specific. Y'all contributed to her death. And they got to own that.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And they got to be able to say, no, no, no, that's y'all boy. Y'all voted for him. Y'all backed him. Y'all endorsed him. That's the information that needs to be provided in a very real way. Sister Teresa is going to tell you from the communications perspective, the best way to communicate, the best way. But those personal stories, like you just talked about, are the ones that really connect with people.
Starting point is 00:14:09 They really hit home with people. You know this as well from your vantage point, from doing this all this time that you've been doing it, when it's a personal story and they will be revealed. When that local hospital closed, when that local nursing home closed, all right, and folks are going to have to travel 90, 100 miles to get service or the people who work in those facilities are going to be out of a job. All right. Those stories need to be told.
Starting point is 00:14:35 All right. They need to be told. And state Democratic parties have the obligation to tell those stories. Hey, Teresa, downstairs, they have these huge popups of all the last, I think, eight or 10 alpha general presidents. That's what I'm talking about. I would probably have a placard the size of that wall right there behind me and I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:14:55 mm, see, this one right here. To me, that's what you have to do. I just believe that nationwide, Democrats are playing a soft game. What I mean by that, I just believe that nationwide Democrats are playing a soft game. What I mean by that, just like we saw when they walked out of the hearing, sent judiciary hearing on yesterday. My deal would be we stopping everything. I'm putting a hold on everything. You cannot play the old game of my colleague, all this sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:28 No, no, no. You got to go hardcore. And so, perfect example, JD Vance here. Yo, JD Vance should have been met by 5,000 people. Absolutely. He-line, he-line. I just think the game has changed. How you combat the opposition has absolutely changed.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Democrats have got to be hardcore gangsta every. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Starting point is 00:18:47 Get your tickets today, AXS.com. Where, to deal with what's happening right now. You know, Democrats, I totally agree. I think Democrats need to be as radical as the Republicans have been this entire time. I think they have been bold. I think their commentary, especially if you watch Fox News and some of the other online
Starting point is 00:19:06 digital platforms that are conservative center, they have been real specific on calling out individuals by name, by district, by fiscal responsibility, and it's been working. Because if you start to see the talking points in social media and the replies thereof, it's all about the attacks. Now, we're not saying we want you to attack the elected, but we want you to hold them accountable. The way you hold people accountable is by telling what the facts are and then also resharing the facts, not speculating, I believe this is my colleague, I believe this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:41 so-and-so that's doing it, or saying it's a general body as a whole, but like you said, shutting it down, making your voice heard, and meeting them where they at. You know, I'm also a little bit disappointed. You know, when we have, you know, our beloved President Obama saying that Democrats need to get tougher, or, you know, our current DNC— Oh, yeah, Obama came out talking about folks need to stop navel gazing. Seriously, President Obama, I need you to sit down. No, I'm going to go ahead and say that because the reality is there are people who are fighting.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah. There are people who are swinging. There are people, they're not navel gazing. They are out here swinging. No, bro, you out here making movies. I mean, that's, no bro, you out here making movies. I mean, that's, no, God, we're just gonna call it what it is. This is not a time for soft leadership.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Right. And again, they, everybody operators with, you know what, he not gonna really go that far. They don't, they, this is the, Democrats right now are trying to defend institutions. They are trying to decimate institutions. Correct. Correct. So you gotta understand the game that you're not playing.
Starting point is 00:20:53 They don't care. Yeah, we're seeing it here at home, right? So, you know, University of Penn is a great example. They've had their trial and error with the Trump administration. They've uphold it a few of their things, but then they got overturned because they decided to cave in and get those million dollars back in funding. So and that's a, you know, I would say it's a democratic institution per se because of, you know, from the Biden family and everyone else that went there.
Starting point is 00:21:21 But I think overall, the institutions also, I mean, they're fighting in court, right? But there's only so much you can do when you have the president of the United States who's also running the courts, except for the Supreme Court. But that's a whole other story. So I think there's an opportunity there. But I think going back to the original point, radical democratic leadership is what I think everybody is more so looking for right now. Candace, I mean, that's when we talk about the budget. First of all, Republicans have backdated a lot of this, so they're not going to take
Starting point is 00:21:53 effect until 2027. But if you are a state rep or a state senator, every single day, they should be hammering, oh, it's coming, it's coming. Oh, you don't feel it right now, but it's coming. And when you talk about sitting on those committees at the state Capitol, it literally should be, you endorsed them, you endorsed them, you endorsed them, you endorsed them.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, so now y'all complaining? Now y'all complaining? And then I, and again, that's why I could never run for office, because I'd be like, I'm only voting for funding for the people who didn't vote for Trump. Because that's what they're doing. Right, exactly what they're doing. I mean, and I know people say, no, no, no, we represent everybody. No, no, no, no, we represent everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:45 No, no, damn that. I'm gonna send money to the people who didn't vote for him because y'all voted for those cuts. And when they come back with, no, this is what we voted for. Oh, yeah, actually, that is what you voted for. Yeah. Y'all just thought it was gonna be to the black people. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And to them, the brown people. They didn't think it was gonna be to them. No, and it is very much to them. I think this really leaves open the opportunity to make a smarter electorate. Why? Because, as you said, you tell somebody exactly what happened because they were part of the process. But in the process of doing that, you also have to tell them what you need to do the next time. It's just a few months ago that we were talking about the price of eggs. So what they know is coming is what we are seeing right
Starting point is 00:23:24 now. Tweet showing how the price of beef has jumped big time as well. It has. It has. And as you said, one of the things that people don't understand, it's like when you have a fight with somebody and they want to get to the good stuff. I believe, as you are saying, you have to go through the process. What happened in between there before we get to the apology and the place that we're all happy and seeing Kumbaya? The in-between stuff is that you were the one who voted for this. You were the one who saw this coming with Project 25. But you were also the one who decided, I'm just going to ignore this and hope for the
Starting point is 00:23:57 best. Or understand, try to understand that maybe this is just going to affect black people when ultimately you're seeing that we are talking rural. And we're talking rural. We are talking not African Americans in terms of the numbers. We are talking white people. And now we are seeing. And we have to play the same game that the Republicans are doing.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Because as you said, they're calling everybody out. They are putting up graphics. They are making it happen, making sure that people understand this is how you do it. What people are getting is how you do it. What people are getting is a civic lesson, right? To understand what's going on right now. And this is the time for really to, people to really hunker down. And I love your people, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:37 This is time for people to really hunker down and say, let me understand this world that I'm living in now because it's not working out for me. And because of that, because my vote does matter, I need to understand how we got here, because I certainly didn't understand, even with the roadmap that was before us with Project 25, it's really time for people to wake up. Well, here's a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:24:58 When you talk about Trump comes in with those, they do massive cuts to rural internet. Yep. Those folks have to be reminded. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, y'all voted for Trump. That's why you got that's why you don't have any Wi Fi. That's why you don't have internet. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It was Biden that passed the billions. Trump came in and whacked all of those billions. So sorry, we will we will go supply y'all with internet. But Trump is the reason why you don't have Internet. Have to be reminded. Have to be reminded. It is, and I think Kansas is exactly correct, the moment where we do a civics lesson. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Like you just said, just look at it a different way. This is a civics lesson. This is what you voted for. This is why you're not getting the help that you had historically received. Right. Okay? Think about it. In Pennsylvania, Roland, there's over 125,000 folks who are suffering from the fentanyl
Starting point is 00:25:56 crisis. Mm-hmm. They get their assistance from Medicaid. Yep. They're going to lose all of that. And where are they? They're not just in Philly, Pittsburgh, Chester, Harrisburg, places like that. They're all across Pennsylvania in rural communities struggling. And the only means for their assistance is Medicaid. They're
Starting point is 00:26:19 going to lose that help. The snap piece, those processes begin not two years from now, those processes begin actually around September 1, in a couple months. All right? And so these things are going to play themselves out right in front of our eyes. And the states, we're talking about this today, we had a press conference on this issue today with Senator Art Haywood and a few others, Senator Street, a few others brought us together. The process will play itself out in the fact that the cost will have to go to administer this to the state level, which means the hundreds of millions of dollars at the state level
Starting point is 00:27:01 that could be utilized to provide some other service will have to be utilized to administer a failed process that has been proven to be a failure in several other states before it will be implemented here in Pennsylvania and other states in a short couple months. And of course a lot of those states, a lot of these things have had surpluses because of Biden Harris during COVID. Absolutely. The billions that went out and they folks been sitting on surpluses just touting that in their reelection campaigns. A lot of that money is about to start disappearing because Trump, they won't support disaster
Starting point is 00:27:37 aid. So when you have hurricanes or tornadoes hit, they're like, yeah, you're stuck out. We're not going to help you. But think about, Roland, from this perspective. Every aspect of American life in your community, in any community you may be from, is worse now than it was on November 5th. It's worse now than it was on January 20th. On November 5th the gas the gas station around the corner from my house gas was 287 per gallon. That gas
Starting point is 00:28:12 station now is 315 per gallon. I'm sorry, but Trump said gas went down. Not at the gas station in West Philadelphia around the corner from my crib. Yeah, according to Trump, gas went down, eggs down, inflation down, everything down. Exactly. Every aspect of American life, it's worse. You know, this is like real life jingo. You start pulling one, the whole thing comes down. You start pulling the jobs from the hospital, then the families explode because you don't have any money coming in the household because you don't have any money coming in the household because of the fact that somebody has lost their job.
Starting point is 00:28:48 You don't have people who have Medicaid anymore and then they're just dying and then you don't have a mother or a father. This is like watching real life Jenga and everything that's been a part of this big beautiful bill, you pull one thing and everything can come tumbling down. Just one thing, everything can come tumbling down, especially with hospitals. You have to be alive first in order to deal with anything else. And if I can't get the health care that I need, well, everything's gonna come down. Everything's gonna come tumbling down. It is a real life Jenga. Absolutely. Senator Hughes,
Starting point is 00:29:20 we certainly appreciate it. Keep up the good fight and we'll keep giving them a hell over here, too. Please do, man. And thank you for having me, these two lovely sisters right here, okay? Genius, talent, and of course, Cheryl told me to tell you hello. Tell them what's up.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I appreciate it. Folks, gonna go to a quick break. We come back, we're gonna talk to Representative Malcolm Kenyatta, of course, VP, Democratic National Committee. The question is, how aggressive will the DNC combating the thugs in the White House? We'll discuss that next right here.
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Starting point is 00:32:36 do All right, folks, welcome back. We are here in. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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Starting point is 00:35:47 Get your tickets today at AXS.com. Philadelphia Alpha Conventions taking place and so we're broadcasting live here. Joining us right now is Pennsylvania State Rep Malcolm Kenyatta, also Vice President Democratic National Committee. A second time, you know, they had a revote and there's all that drama, so that's all done. Good to see you. Good to see you too. That wasn't the history I was trying to make, but first time twice, so yeah. Yeah, right. You get elected twice and within six months. You know, if Mike Pence had the courage, I would have been in the first. Let's, first of all, okay, we saw the clip when you were on News Nation.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. So how long were you on air? Like by 90 seconds? You know, 96 seconds, my team counted. So Leland Vitter got mad because you wouldn't answer his BS question about Jeffries and Sharpton. Yeah, like I don't know what that was about. And you know, we talked about this a little bit when we were at Essence about the critical
Starting point is 00:36:48 nature of black media in this moment. Because I said when I was on the Native Land podcast, whether it's whether it's you rolling or some of these other incredible people who are using the platforms that they've built to educate our folks, because the mainstream media, we see CBS canceling the Colbert report, doing everything they can, 60 Minutes, all these places that you used to be able to depend on, at least some impartial, unbiased excavation of the facts. They're no longer doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And independent media is so critical, whether it's Donald Trump's health, it was people in independent media that pushed the mainstream media to actually talk about that scandal. And I know that like- Big ankles, big ankles. Right? I mean, you know, and he has like some serious health conditions that nobody the mainstream media to actually talk about that scandal. And I know that like... Big ankles, big ankles. Right? I mean, you know, and he has like some serious health conditions that nobody in the media is talking about. And the list goes on and on. But the reason Leland and I had that back and forth is that he did a 12 minute open
Starting point is 00:37:35 about political violence, said nothing about the Speaker Hortman who was assassinated, her and her husband Mark, said nothing about the Senator. First of all, it's a right-winger who came from Fox. But let's just be clear what the real deal is. No, no, he's balanced. He's balanced, he said. He said he's fair and balanced.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Fair and balanced. But he could not find a single Republican who had engaged in political violence and laid it all at the feet of, I think it was Representative, might have been Representative Cesar, some others from the Progressive Caucus who were talking about people going with their neighbors to their ICE check-ins at court and standing with each other. And he's equating that to the same type of political violence that we're seeing from the right.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's not the same. And I wasn't going to allow him to get away with it. But you know, he didn't want to finish the conversation. But I would go back if he wants to actually talk. I'd go anywhere. Well, first of all, that's essentially what News Nation is. When I went on there with Dan Abrams, straight live, they just cut out half a tweet that I,
Starting point is 00:38:34 and he got called out for my fans for like six months after. I mean, they was still lighting his ass up. No, the Martin Nation is somewhere doing it right now. You mentioned that they hot again. They wanted me to come back on the next night To express it. I'm not explaining the damn thing and I said also I don't need I said I got more viewers than y'all do So why do I need to go on your show? I'm like and wait and hit me back on I'm like and I still got more people watching me than watch them
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's a whole other thing Let's talk we were just talking about with Senator Hughes, all of these rural white conservatives voting against their interests. Now they're crying. Now they're begging resources. We played the video of this one white woman, hardcore MAGA in Texas, but then she had all these tears when the flood hit and was begging for help. And I'm like, oh, now y'all have compassion. And what people are asking, people are just, they said, are we going to see Democrats respond aggressively? BlackPak has a new poll out that it's not good news for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And I think in this moment, what people are demanding, they want to see that folk are willing to fight, to be aggressive, to challenge, to challenge the opposition because you got thugs you're dealing with who don't care. And so what is the DNC plan? What is Ken Martin going to do? Because the people, I travel all around this country and the people, they like, yo, I need to see somebody fighting these folk.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. So let me start by saying, you're absolutely right. You know, I need to see somebody fighting these folks. Yeah. So let me start by saying, you're absolutely right. I don't know who said this. And so if you said this to me, no, I'm quoting you, all right? That Democrats are playing checkers, Republicans are playing grand theft auto, and they've stolen their next vehicle and shot up the damn hospital. And so we are in a position where I will tell you I'm not Deflated by by those by those numbers of people wanting folks to fight harder wanting the Democratic Party to to do more
Starting point is 00:40:32 I think it says something good about Democrats that they hold their elected officials to a high standard and that they recognize All the stuff that they care about not the play play stuff Politics not like a joke the stuff that senator Hughes and I are fighting on right now trying to get funding for SEPTA so that people can get to work. The impact of the 17 million people are gonna lose health care. People want to know that you give a damn about my person I love, best in the world, having their entire life turned upside down because of these policy decisions. Now as it relates to what we have to do in this moment, is we have to think outside the
Starting point is 00:41:07 box. And I think a prime example of that is what's happening in Texas, because there is not a single thing that this administration that has done that is popular with the American people. And I would say to folks watching, you should know this, Donald Trump is underwater in every single poll there is, even on the central thing that got him elected around the border and immigration, he's underwater on those numbers as well. So they don't believe they can win fair and square. You know, they're not trying to square up like people used to square up. They're coming with all types
Starting point is 00:41:37 of tricks and games. They're trying to do this mid-century redistricting. And Chair Martin was supposed to be in Philadelphia right now at the young Democrats convention But is in Texas with the members of the Texas house strategizing organizing with them to say what can we do to support them as they Do the work that all of us need to be doing to standing up to to this guy But I think what's happening in Texas is a prime example of what I've been saying everywhere I go we have to look local first as a party and recognize that so many of the downstream impacts that we see in Washington Are really a reflection of the lack of attention that we've paid to what's happening locally is a perfect example Just the other day
Starting point is 00:42:23 Representative Jeffries representative Representative Robin Kelly, Representative Troy Carter, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and there was one from California. So they're in New Orleans and they're talking about these Medicaid cuts. And I go, why you in New Orleans? I said, if you're gonna do that, isn't it more effective to hold that news conference outside of one of Mike Johnson's district offices? First of all, you're gonna guarantee to get local coverage, you're gonna get state coverage,
Starting point is 00:43:00 it's gonna get national coverage. I said, to me, that's a perfect example. You're doing something on your turf. That you already got New Orleans. But no, you got to take the fight to his district. I pulled it up on the show. I said, he has five district offices. I said, those five members of Congress,
Starting point is 00:43:20 they should have had a different news conference outside of every one of his district offices and say, okay, we're going to come to your district. This is Louisiana. To me, that's how you have to fight back. I sometimes frankly don't understand when I see some Democratic politicians who are trying to fight a battle swinging feathers. To me, you have to take the fight to them.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm going on your turf and challenge you in front of your office and say, these are the number of people in this district who are gonna lose Medicaid. There are people who are gonna lose SNAP benefits. The California congressman, 64% of his district is on Medicaid. If I'm Jeffries, I'm going to his district holding a news conference. To me, that's the kind of energy that I believe you have to be fighting somebody with that
Starting point is 00:44:21 then is going to generate the attention that you actually want. No, that's absolutely right. That's good advice, great advice. One of the things I've tried to do is to really recognize in this role that I have as vice chair of the DNC, what can I do? What are the things that are within my control and authority? I don't say this as a dodge, but one of the things I recognize is that the DNC can't do everything. And if you try to do everything, can't do anything well. But let me tell you what we are doing exactly in line with what you're saying. We started
Starting point is 00:44:52 this thing just last week called Organizing Summer. And I've been so incredibly excited by the turnout where we are training people on the ground to figure out how to do the type of organizing, the direct contact to their legislators in 36 targeted districts where Republicans not only screwed over their own constituents with the vote for this big bullshit bill, but also in districts that we really have the possibility to flip in this upcoming election. So far in just four months, Democrats have held 155 town halls in every single state, including Alaska, talking about a whole host of issues. But right now what we've done is try to get even more strategic and even more granular to the districts that we're going to actually need to make the math work to make Hakeem Jeffries the next speaker of the House.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But this is true. We're asking folks to give us a chance to lead, an opportunity to lead. And I will say, when we get the opportunity to lead, the trust of people to lead, then we have to freaking do something. We have to engage with the type of ruthlessness to make people's lives better as they engage with a ruthlessness to make people's lives better as they engage with a ruthlessness to make life miserable for folks. Because it seems like whenever Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:46:10 is not on Epstein's Island, he is trying to make things worse for the American people. And I know that folks might not care, but there are people in my district who go to Walmart right on Delaware Avenue, who are now paying 51% more for baby formula, for car seats for their kids, and a whole other host of issues. And I know folks like, you know, Trump and the people who got the tax cuts, they don't
Starting point is 00:46:36 care about that. But I know you know, Theresa, and many other folks know that that makes all the difference for people who, like my mama, were penny pinching. Right. Oh, absolutely. Well, and I, first of all, I believe that strategy is critically important because I keep reminding people, the midterm elections next year is not a national election. It is a district by district election.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You're going to have state seats. You got nine or 12 Senate seats that are going to be on the ballot. But it's really those 435 House seats. And there are 35 vulnerable Republicans who have to be targeted. That's 850,000 people in each one of those particular districts. And so, yes, on the ground, hardcore, local, local, local, because if you turn out people, at the end of the day, the reason Trump is trying to do gerrymandering in Texas and Ohio, because they desperately know that they lose five seats, Democrats have the House.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And so that's what we're talking about right here, and folks have to understand the stakes that are at play. Lisa, that to me, that state by state, or as I always say, state by state, city by city, county by county, neighborhood by neighborhood, block, street, home, that literally has to be the focus. Yeah, and I also think, you know, going to the, and I love that, you know, Malcolm is not only a friend but also a neighbor in North Philadelphia, right? So taking what we've done even on the local level from grassroots and taking it to the national level because that summer organizing just doesn't come out of thin air. It actually takes folks who has been doing grassroots organizing all their lives, right?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Either them individually or either them by those that we have as mentors and those that we have as overseers. But I also don't want us to forget about the civic organizations that are supposed to be leading these civil rights charts from the NAACP, the National Urban League, and all these other great, phenomenal, established, over 100-year institutions who are supposed to be doing the same fight that we are because the DNC can't do it alone, you know, local organizations can't do it alone, and sometimes all of it is not about being funded It's about being inspired and so we are looking for leaders who are trying to inspire and reconnect and rejuvenate So again, you know, I'm always happy with whatever I see you want on commentary, but I'm also happy because
Starting point is 00:49:20 We you know the elected officials are doing work. You know the ones who are not just in the seat legislatively, but are also in the community, going block, block, block, district by district, and city by city, and also lending their voice to come on these podcasts, because this is also a labor of love for some of those electors. But you have to, like you said, get in their face, do the work, show up, and make sure everybody else
Starting point is 00:49:47 has a seat at the table. But Malcolm, I think we have to, I think we, I agree with everything Theresa says, but what I keep emphasizing is, I'm not putting this on electors, I'm not putting this on a party. What I want people to understand is, every, an everyday ordinary person, if
Starting point is 00:50:09 100 people in a neighborhood decide that they're going to go get the data, which is public, to look at how many people in my precinct voted, then they can go, wait a minute, we can actually go door to door ourselves. People have to understand that they can go, wait a minute, we can actually go door to door ourselves. People have to understand that they can actually be a difference maker. They don't have to wait for somebody to swoop in to actually do this. People can decide on their own to go block walking. That's right. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:50:40 That's right. No, that's absolutely right. And one of the things I've been saying often, and it feels particularly resonant for me right now thinking about Representative Lewis's birthday yesterday, good troubled day. I always say that I think there's a little bit of historical revisionism that ends up going on in people's minds. Where I keep hearing people ask, you know, who's going to be the next Representative Lewis or next Martin Luther King or Malcolm X? Another person asked me about 2028, I'm going to cuss.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I love it. I tell people. Oh my god. Why the hell you ask me about 2028? I said, we got race to 2025. We have races right now in New Jersey and Virginia. We have retention races for the Pennsylvania Supreme Court where billionaires like Musk are putting in millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:51:23 to try to overturn the seats of our democratic Supreme Court justices that are the reason we were able to have fair redistricting for our congressional seats, by the way. But I just want to make this point that I think in retrospect, people look at these big name folks and are asking who are going to be those folks of this generation? And I keep saying to people, don't worry about who gets the quote unquote credit. people look at these big name folks and are asking who are going to be those folks of this generation? And I keep saying to people don't worry about who gets the quote-unquote credit. All that stuff is decided later. Just get on the bridge like people did 60 years ago on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Just get on the bridge. Don't worry about what the article headline is going to be. But to your point,
Starting point is 00:51:58 pick up a walk sheet wherever you live and try to make a difference where you are and I would just end by saying this you don't have to be frustration free to get involved it's actually your frustration and your anger that is going to drive you in this work it can't sustain all of it you have to have some hope you have to have some joy in this stuff but it's that anger that is uh my therapist reminds me anger is an emotion that that gets you up and and moving. And if you listen to it, it can drive you in the direction where there might be some passion and some ability for you to really use your talents. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't got a therapist.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I just cuss people out. I just cuss people out. I do both. I do both. That's why I got love, pressure. Well, therapy is talking. Talk out. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Oh, I'm a therapist. I'll cuss you out. Just a type of therapy. Candice, go ahead. This is therapy. Candace, go ahead. Well, you know, I'm just reminded about when you first talked, you talked about being on News Nation for about 96 seconds, and then they asked you to come back.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And honestly, you didn't have to come back, right? Because everybody has what Roland is saying. They have that you can go door to door and pick up and do whatever you want. You can also be your own media center. And guide, you can get on YouTube live right now. You can get on IG live right now and be your own station. No, no, no, no, no, no. Your ass can go live at 8 or 1.
Starting point is 00:53:18 That's right, it can't be between 6 PM and 8 PM. Don't be trying to be live through 6 PM. Don't do it, don't do it.'t do it yes then you can rally people to go door-to-door after but you know when 8.01 p.m. begins people have to understand too and I think that this is where you know I mentioned it before we have to understand the civics part of it and how it works the marketing part of it the getting people enthused about it and how it works, the marketing part of it, the getting people enthused about it and really making people understand that they actually have power. Because when you're
Starting point is 00:53:50 sitting there at home and you're lamenting and you know you've spoken to your therapist and you feel like you have not gotten that to a to a better point, you think that you don't really have any power. And if you don't know how to do it, then you need some instruction. And quite frankly, there are a lot of people, if you go to your local church, if you go to, you know, people like you who are local, go in the neighborhood, you can find out how to do it. But media is the big part. That's what you were saying. That's how you get local media. It's called mass media for a reason. That's right. It's called mass media for a reason, but you have to rally the people.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Malcolm, explain to people, because my head hurts when this happens. Explain to people exactly what the Democratic National Committee does. Because there's this belief that they control it all and not realizing that, listen, PACs have totally changed the game. The DNC used to be the central fundraising arm. Frankly, they raise less money really than all of these different packs, whatever. So a lot of people just have no understanding what the DNC actually is. Yeah, and McCain-Feingold, and I'm going to go back to your question, but McCain-Feingold
Starting point is 00:55:01 also made it more difficult, frankly, for parties. There was some good stuff in that, but made it more difficult, frankly, for parties. There was some good stuff in that, but made it more difficult for parties that centralized focus. But we have a simple job. Our job is to elect Democratic nominees and to beat Republicans. That is our simple job. But we have an important responsibility in the broader Democratic ecosystem because...
Starting point is 00:55:22 So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future,
Starting point is 00:55:46 Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Every week, we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, no, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is
Starting point is 00:56:28 glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
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Starting point is 00:58:30 First of all, hold on, hold on. This is what I mean. So you have the National, the National Democratic National Committee. Then you have state parties. That's right. Then you have county parties. That's right. That's the infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:58:42 So people just think, oh no, they just govern everybody. No, there's an actual Organizational structure here where nationally you're trying to fund state parties state parties of the in fund County parties so that's that that's what the DNC actually is. That's that's what we are we're the keeper of the voter file we are the umbrella We're the keeper of the voter file. We are the umbrella organization for a lot of different entities that frankly do their own things. I hear all the time too where people say, well, Malcolm, make this state party. We can't make a state party do anything either.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It's the same way in many respects that you think about the separate structures of your federal government, your state government, and your local government. you know, what people feel on the day-to-day is their local party. You know, the committee person that you know. And then that committee person and all of you, you help elect state committee people who then make up the Pennsylvania Democratic Party. And that's just the DNC. That's just the DNC.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The Democratic Governors Association is different. The Democratic Senate Congressional Committee, different. The DSCC, the DCCC, the Democratic State Legislative Group. So you have all these different entities that are at play. And they all have votes and input on the DNC, but they're their own separate entities. And so, you know, there are people who think, you know, we control the the Democratic calendar and Congress we control the congressional the congressional calendar you know we're not in control of everything but what we can do and what we are focused on is recruiting training the types of
Starting point is 01:00:17 organizers that we're gonna need that's making sure that our candidates when they are the nominees have the supports that they need to win hard elections, win the election-winning business, the policy business, everything else, those are other people's things. I know we get blamed for it, but Chair Martin said something that he says all the time. That to be a party-
Starting point is 01:00:37 Chair Ken Martin, not me. Chair Ken Martin. The other Martin, no relation. No, that's a different chair. No, no, no relation. But he. That's a different chair. No, no, no relation. But he says all the time, and it's true, to be a party leader is like be a fire hydrant. Everybody comes and pisses on you.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And every now and then you get to let out some water and put out a big fire. But I decided to try to take this on because I was sick of just yelling into the wind, being on Twitter, being upset. And I decided to open the hood up, get some oil on my face, get my hands dirty, and try to do everything we can. And one of the things I've been focused on,
Starting point is 01:01:13 like a laser, is the deep south. People have seen me across the south a lot. I'm about to be back in Texas. I've been in Florida three times already. Was just in Tennessee last week, was in Mississippi. And some of the Alabama young Democrats, they said if I don't get to Alabama, they're not going to let me out of the convention, so I got to get to Alabama. Because Mr. Barbecue said, he said the problem is not, he said the problem is the South is
Starting point is 01:01:34 disorganized. It's not organized. Absolutely. You know, people don't know, there are more black folks in Mississippi than any other state in the country. And so like places like Mississippi, you know? Texas has the largest number of eligible black voters in any state in America. And so we're in a position where we have to organize those folks.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And then also we have to, we're in a position where I keep saying to folks, give the democratic party, give all of us the opportunity to change too. Because it's so easy to be so frustrated. And you've seen this in your life. You have people in your life, you're so frustrated with them, even when they've taken out the garbage like you want. You still upset about the last time they didn't. This entire DNC are new people. We've only been here for six months and we are trying our hardest to receive the feedback and implement the things that people
Starting point is 01:02:17 are saying but I ain't asking you to be not frustrated. I'm just asking you to not just stay online with your frustration. Come to your local Democratic Party meeting. All right then. Well, Representative Kenyatta, keep up the work, keep up the pressure. I'm just asking you to not just stay online with your frustration. Come to your local Democratic Party meeting. All right then, well, Representative Kenyatta. Thank you so much. Keep up the work, keep up the pressure. Thank you, my friend. And yeah, this Chair Martin
Starting point is 01:02:32 gonna keep being petty. That's 6 to 8. And give folk hell. That's your strategy. That's right. And give them hell every single day. Appreciate it, thanks so much. Folks, gotta go to a break.
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Starting point is 01:04:42 Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We look at one of the most influential and prominent Black Americans of the 20th century. His work literally changed the world. Among other things, he played a major role in creating the United Nations. He was the first African American and first person of color to win the Nobel Peace Prize. And yet today, he is hardly a household name. We're talking, of course, about Ralph J. Bunch. A new book refers to him as the absolutely indispensable man.
Starting point is 01:05:16 His lifelong interest and passion in racial justice, specifically in the form of colonialism. And he saw his work as an activist, an advocate for the black community here in the United States as just the other side of the coin of his work trying to roll back European empire in Africa. Author Cal Rastiala will join us to share his incredible story.
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Starting point is 01:05:59 that is being led by the Trump administration and with you as ordinary citizens can do to speak up and speak out, to fight back. This is the other side of change only on the Black Star Network. On a next, a balanced life, we talk about how to get in touch with your feelings, emotions, how to find your North Star,
Starting point is 01:06:20 and how to move your life along. Because oftentimes what we'll do is we'll accept what the world says about us as the truth and how we see ourselves, which that could be completely contrary to what the word of God says about who you are. That's on the next of Balanced Life here on Black Star Network.
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Starting point is 01:08:57 That's right here on Get Wealthy, only on Black Star Network. only on Black Star Network. The brothers would be that be starting in less than an hour. We're sitting just outside of the ballroom It's gonna be absolutely jam-packed in there Not quite as big it was at the Delta Convention my god. Yeah, I Mean, it's about 10,000 sisters in that room. It was crazy. First of all, I I text my wife I'm like what table you see that she's like table 1054 I was like I ain't sitting way back there
Starting point is 01:09:48 I said I'll be up front so I ain't sitting way to hell back there. I think she was another state sitting back there All right, we're here Philadelphia the Alpha Convention joining us right now my far left and That's where he seated Congressman Al Green of Texas glad to see my dear Alpha brother. Congressman Bobby Scott of Virginia. And standing next to me, Dr. Everett Ward, he is with the Alpha Political Action Committee. Glad to have all y'all here. I'm going to start with you, Congressman Green. Listen, I have said constantly that what we have in black America is we have unutilized capacity. When you look at D9 organizations, when you look at Lynx, when you look at Prince Hall
Starting point is 01:10:34 Mason, Eastern Star, we can go down the line. We have all these organizations, but I believe they're too insular. And the reality is, when you talk about 501c3, folks are also scared of protecting their tax status, and I get it, but that says an organization can't endorse a candidate. Doesn't mean you can't be active on issues. And so what do you say to Alphas Nationwide in terms of being even more involved and what's happening politically in this country on the national level, the state level, the county, the city level as
Starting point is 01:11:10 well, plus what happens in our school districts. Well, thank you very much, Roland. It's an honor to be on your program. I have to say this. I heard your appeal earlier, $1,750. I want to make sure that I can make my contribution. So count on me. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Thank you. Now, in terms of what you've asked I believe in unity without uniformity. Not only do we have to do things within alpha phi alpha But we have to unite with the deltas and the AKAs all of the divine nine We can work together and the the multiplier that we will produce by working together can change this country Just with these Fraternities so yes, you're right. We have to do it but to do it we So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to there are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind
Starting point is 01:12:02 To drown there's a famous headline. I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace,
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Starting point is 01:14:18 presented by Capital One, is coming back to Las Vegas. Vegas! September 19th and 20th. On your feet! Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Glorilla, Jelly Roll,
Starting point is 01:14:31 John Fogerty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCragg, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today, AXS.com. Get your tickets today AXS.com. We have to get together as a unit and we don't have to give up our identities. Right. Because continue to be who we are but let's have unity without uniformity and make a difference. Congressman Scott, 2011 a voter suppression bill was passed in Ohio And the folks there, they had to collect 300,000 signatures to get it put on
Starting point is 01:15:06 the ballot in 2012. And so in 11th, so Congresswoman Marsha Fudge, then Congresswoman Fudge, I actually moderated the D9 panel. So all the presidents were sitting up there. Dr. Wood wasn't president yet, so he didn't get challenged like I did. So I challenged all the presidents. I said, were they aware of this They said no and then everybody was so as far as like move along. I was like now we gonna stay right here Here's what ended up. I was pressing them about time about all they voted program I was like I want to hear all that the next thing they had a pan-hell meeting and they calculated there were 120
Starting point is 01:15:42 D9 chapters in Ohio alone. And I said that if each one of those chapters committed to get 1,000 signatures for the petition, the D9 alone could supply one-third of the necessary petitions. What shocked them was the 120. They had never calculated. So it goes to the point that Congressman Al Green, we have all this capacity, but we're operating as these individual organizations, as opposed to how can we move as a unit to be able to change our community? Well, I think you pointed out the capacity and what you can do politically, but you can't
Starting point is 01:16:17 get away from the message of what's going on. They just passed a bill, a big ugly bill, that cuts Medicaid, cuts food stamps, cuts access to college in order to fund tax cuts for the wealthy. And after they've done that, they run up $3.4 trillion in debt. We have to make sure that message gets out. Right. And one thing you can do is all those chapters, make sure the word gets out. If everybody gets a couple of thousand people that message. And it has no impact on your IRS status, because that's just information. We don't want to be diverted.
Starting point is 01:16:54 If people want to talk about Epstein and everything else, no. We want to talk about they're taking away your health care, and we don't want to change the subject. And so if we can focus on issues, then you can get into voter registration and get out the vote and make sure you can change some of these seats so they don't have the votes to pull this stuff off. Dr. Ward, the creation of this PAC, again, what that says is that you can have members of an organization, the IRS allows for a political action committee,
Starting point is 01:17:25 but which is separate from what organization does. The NRA has always been a 501C3 and a 501C4. They do gun education, that's the main part of NRA, but then they have a political arm. And too many of our groups, frankly, have been afraid to go there out of fear, oh my God, this is going to affect our tax status.
Starting point is 01:17:46 The PAC was created, why? And what was your focus for the 26th? Well, we created the Alpha PAC for exactly what you said. We have to raise money to support candidates who support our issues. That's why we were formed in 2019. If you will remember, there was a critical election in Georgia and we helped raise money, helped with the ground game with Senator Raphael Warnock. So what we realized... An alpha.
Starting point is 01:18:15 An alpha. But what we realized is that we have to be engaged in politics 365 days of the year. So when we formed the Alpha Pack, we said we're going to endorse candidates. First of all, we're going to screen them to make sure they are focused on the issues that are important to us. We don't want to hear anymore, come to the black church in October, talk about who you know and then you leave. But we want to look at your legislative agenda. We want to see your voting record.
Starting point is 01:18:45 We want to see how serious you are. And then we'll consider you. But we raised money. That's how we got started. We just today met as an organization and listened to the issues that are impacting our community. We just passed a motion that we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we help Congressman Al Green and Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett because they've been targeted. We're not going to let them go. In 2024... Well they're targeting all the black and they're targeting
Starting point is 01:19:19 Congressman Al Green, Congressman Jasmine Crockett, Congressman Mike Veazey, Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia. They want to get rid of all four of those in Texas. And what we're going to do is make Texas a priority. Raise money. We're going to have a ground game. We supported unapologetically Lisa Blunt Rochester in Delaware. We supported unapologetically Angela Alsebrooke in Maryland.
Starting point is 01:19:46 They got elected, but we are proud to say we were on the right side, and now we have two black females in the U.S. Senate. We supported members of the Congressional Black Caucus, but we are now going to move beyond just federal, and now our pack is going to go to local candidates because what this political, let me just be careful rolling. What's happening with this? Remember the show called Rolling Martin Unfiltered.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Yes sir. You ain't gotta be careful if you don't want to. What we're going to do. You can tell me and I'll say it. We're going to stand firm as a pack along with others to make sure we're going to stand firm as a pack along with others to make sure we are going to stand against the turn back of time. We're not going back to the days of 1940 and 1930.
Starting point is 01:20:34 This is 2025, 2026, 2020. We're going to raise money. We're going to help candidates get elected. And that's what the Alpha Pack is all about. Theresa, I keep saying to black folks, and some people got mad at this, I said, listen, don't send your money to a presidential campaign. Don't send it to a party. I said, send it to black groups who
Starting point is 01:20:56 you know are going to put the money on the ground. Because the reality is too many white consultants want to put the money in television. They don't want to fund ground games. They don't want to fund ground games. They don't want to go to neighborhoods, and that's a problem. And so when we create our own PACs, we can say to our people, send it to our groups, who we know is going to get the money to our folks. That's right.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You know, that's a great example. We have a collective PAC, and I think their thing was a win with black men and that was when Kamala Harris was running during during those a hundred days and I think that I think you hosted on one of them. I think I did host it. Okay I was like sure. But what happened was folk got mad folk got mad and I cussed them out too. Because you organized. Well no they got they got mad because we raised 1.5 million. But we kept 400,000 and didn't send it to the Harris campaign. And literally, one person, I ain't
Starting point is 01:21:52 going to name this very proud person, got mad. I said, oh, I'm going to do it again. And she was like, excuse me? I said, we're not going to send the money and then beg for it to come back. We said, no, we're going to send 1.1, but we're going to keep 400,000 and we're going to send directly to black male groups ourselves. Yeah, and that's where I was going with that.
Starting point is 01:22:12 So the money that was raised during that, again, short. Yeah, that was my idea. That's why we did it. Yeah. Well, incredible idea because even though that was a national pack, we heard it, the floodgates opened up so much locally. Like I've heard, I was getting texts from everybody like, hey have you heard this pack? I'm like, well who's a part of it? Right? Because it was those type of, yes
Starting point is 01:22:33 we had the resources, but also it was a continuous momentum of engagement that was happening. Not only what virtual calls, but I was getting newsletters, I was getting text messages, I was getting more than what the national party was doing. So I totally agree when it comes to putting your money back into African American organizations because we know where the money is going to go directly. It's going to go straight to the district and the people that need it the most. Again, what people need to understand, we don't have to wait for a candidate to get us excited, to inspire us.
Starting point is 01:23:09 We literally can be replicating exactly what happened, when with black women, when with black men, Vice President, Donald Harris, for school board races, city races, county government races, state rep, state senate, congress, and all the way up. Yeah. Everybody do a Google right now and see exactly where all the senators started. Is normally on a county board, Senator Mitch McConnell, he was local. Right, we know a lot of people who are in the race and in the game because they started locally. So that's really the important thing here is to teach people on a local level how to
Starting point is 01:23:44 rise up. Because you're not just going to go be a governor. You have to have some experience. You have to show the people that you know the roads. So what you did with that money and what you did in terms of raising that money and bringing people awareness of the capacity and the power of African-American men and African-American women, I mean I'm still getting, you know, job newsletters from them, like you said. It didn't just stop there. And that was another thing that's very important about organizing and creating a coalition so that people understand that it's not just about the voting.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It's about other things that are kind of trickled down and that you have to be in the trenches for in order to make sure that democracy is working. Representative Green, again, I keep making the point, I look at numbers. Texas has the largest number of eligible black voters in any state in the union. 61% of Texas is minority, black, Latino, Asian American, Native American. Yet 61% of the people who vote are white. And so it's untapped power that exists in Texas. And that's why Republicans have a lock on that state.
Starting point is 01:24:50 And so I keep saying if we vote at capacity, we can absolutely change elections all across the country. Yes. And to add to the information you're sharing, whites are less than 40% of the population, but they have 66% of the congressional seats. And they're going to take more. They want to add five more to that number. So yes, but it does take mobilizing.
Starting point is 01:25:15 And it also takes someone who knows how to spend the money once we get it. Because too often, that money never goes to the black press. That money never goes to the people who, that money never goes to the people who know the community. No black consultants, no black PR people, no black pollsters. You're stealing all of my thunder. But yes, I'm in complete agreement. And let me just thank you again for your bringing this message to the masses, because too often
Starting point is 01:25:40 we don't get a chance to hear the truth about how things are functioning after the election is over. black people are blamed For not voting right well black people didn't vote because we didn't take care of business when we had the opportunity to and that has to Be said it does so thank you again. Congressman Scott perfect example critical state elections in Virginia this year You talk about statewide positions you talk about the house Democrats control the house Don Scott remains speaker about the House, Democrats control the House. Don Scott remains Speaker of the House, first black Speaker of the House in Virginia history. Then you have, of course, Louise Lucas control the money on the Senate side.
Starting point is 01:26:14 You've got the House Majority Leader, a black woman. And so you have African-American positions of power. They maintain that power. Guess what? They then can drive an agenda. You don't want to get away from what the agenda is. We talked about all the politics and all that. We have elections in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:26:35 We have to take care of business. On the federal level, where Alan and I are serving, they're trying to get rid of the Department of Education. Equal opportunity to education is at risk. And you've got to remember that Donald Trump appointed dozens of judges that would not say during their confirmation hearing whether or not they thought Brown v. Board of Education was properly decided.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I mean, they're going to issues that we haven't heard before. Issues like we've complained about what they've done. People having financial problems four years ago, we had the American Rescue Plan Act where we put a family of four, $5,000 in stimulus checks in their pockets, $6,000 in child tax credits over the year, thousands more in enhanced NAP benefits if they lost a job, more money. I mean we actually, if you look at the difference between in policy, what happens when one side is in charge and another side is in charge, all of the work that we're talking about getting done has an effect as a result of policy.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Now before I go to Dr. Ward with the final comment and in the midst of it you didn't want to talk about it and I understood but all these folks they kill me when they say man the cbc ain't doing nothing I ain't heard nothing all this sort of stuff. When Biden and Harris were there and Democrats control the house,k like you were on committees. Y'all were not out there yelling and screaming and putting stuff out. Y'all were doing the work. But the billions that went to HBCUs, the billions that went to education, because folk like you were sitting on critical committees handling legislation.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Just explain to people what that means that everything is not having your name on a bill and getting all the attention how you can impact public policy being a member of Congress sitting on a committee. I was chair of the committee for four years and we got more money for HBCUs than they've ever seen in the history of HBCUs. We got more money for low income, for housing, for education, criminal justice reform. I mean, there are things you can do when you're chairs of committees that you can't do when the other side is running their agenda.
Starting point is 01:29:00 And that's why all of the work that we're talking about is so important. Hold on, hold on. I just want people to know. I called Carson Scott. He was like, listen, I can't come on right now. I'm busy right now. He said, so we need to get all this done as quickly as we can. We may not be here long.
Starting point is 01:29:16 No, seriously. And I got it. And I said, don't worry about it. I'll take care of it. But your deal was you weren't trying to get your name in the lights. You were trying to get the money to the people. Well, and I was chairing the Education and Labor Committee. A million people were about to lose their pensions under the Multi-employer Pension Fund. A million. We fixed those problems
Starting point is 01:29:41 in the American Rescue Plan Act. Just no cuts in benefits. Just fix it. And you can do things like that. It's safe. By the way, tens of thousands of businesses were legally obligated to pay into failing funds until businesses went broke. But we fixed that.
Starting point is 01:29:58 And those are the kinds of things you can do. Million people could go to bed at night thinking, well, now I've got my pension. I don't have to worry about what am I going can do. Million people could go to bed at night thinking, well, I've now got my pension off to worry about what am I going to do. On the other hand, you can go up to people's healthcare, you can go up to SNAP benefits, you can take away their access to college. In this big ugly bill, your ability to go to college is seriously compromised. Yep. Absolutely. Which means that if Democrats take control of the House after next year's election, you back as chair.
Starting point is 01:30:31 That's right. And we'll be in a position to fix a lot of the damage done. We can get the Pell Grants back up to where they are, have student loans where they are. Student loans, the payments are going to be about double what they were under Biden. The Affordable Obamacare premiums are going up, I've heard 70% when people sign up in December because of what they did and didn't do in this legislation. Representative Green, you want to say something? Go ahead. I want to add a couple of things quickly. Under the leadership of the Honorable Maxine Waters on financial services, we were able to
Starting point is 01:31:09 put money in the hands of small businesses, but more specifically we were allocating money to go to minority businesses. When you have a person who understands the needs of the community, then you can move to meet those needs. I would also add that she currently has legislation to put $100 billion, $100 million, into helping people who need money to buy a house. Right now, young people, first-time home buyers, are having difficulties. They need some subsidy to help them buy that first home. And finally this, on the topic of voting,
Starting point is 01:31:40 one vote makes a difference because the big ugly steel passed by one vote. The 18th congressional district was not represented in Congress. The governor of the state of Texas chose to put the election off until November and in doing that we would deny that one vote that would have made a difference. I assure you a representative from the 18th congressional district would have voted against it. One vote can make a difference. I'm gonna end with this Dr. Ward. You were talking about funding of what happened on the local level. And I've said this literally for years. People look at how much money it
Starting point is 01:32:13 takes to run for president, the United States Senate, and Congress. The reality is, if $25,000 is raised on a local level, you could literally fund a majority of the people running for school board, and if those five people, it's a nine member school board, they now have the majority, they control the process. So people need to be thinking just different. We're not talking about, oh my God, we gotta go raise five million dollars.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Literally, in many of these places, in a lot of these places, there are a lot of bedroom communities where cities where black people are the majority in a lot of these cities and we're not representative on those school boards because we're not funding our candidates. Right. Well I think clearly what we've got to do is politics is 365 days of the year. What you've just heard is you have defined roles that everybody needs to play. Our outstanding members of Congress need to do exactly what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:33:14 But we need to do what we need to do on the ground. That's why the Alpha Pack, we decided there's two tracks to our effort. Three, actually. Raise money, but then train people who are interested in running for public office how to run for public office. And then the second, the third is what we talked about earlier. We've got to train individuals to work in these campaigns at the executive level to make sure that when that local school board member wants to run that
Starting point is 01:33:45 they've got someone who's trained and prepared professionally to run that campaign. Raise money, recruit candidates, and then third, have someone who can run those campaigns. That's the mission that we've got to be about, especially now. A county commissioner is very important. School board members very important. State legislatures are very important. What we see is, just like folk did to end Reconstruction, they took back the state house,
Starting point is 01:34:18 they took back the local races. And it wasn't until the 1960s, when the Voting Rights Act came, that we started turning everything back. That's why they're going after the Voting Rights Act. That's why they're trying to kill the Department of Education. But we are strong people, and we're going to win in the end.
Starting point is 01:34:37 People in the chat ask, who can give to the Alpha Pack? Only Alphapack? Oh, anybody can give. Anyone can give. Come on now. You need to be like a? Oh, anybody can give. Anyone can give. Oh, yes sir, www.alphapack.net. You can give, and to your point, give $20, give $25, give whatever you can. Every dollar is important. That's right. So give $20, roll them out on the filter, then give $20. That's
Starting point is 01:35:03 right. That's right. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News, it's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you.
Starting point is 01:35:27 The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it.
Starting point is 01:35:44 So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions
Starting point is 01:36:23 about American history and I find the answers where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Smokey the Bear. Smokey. Then you know why Smokey tells you when he sees you passing through.
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Starting point is 01:37:42 Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Glorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Glorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCrae, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today AXS.com. Boy, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you. Congressman Bobby Scott, Congressman Al Green, my Albert brothers, I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. And just for all your other little youth groups out there, Henry, he little mega and Terrell in the studio, he a sigma. Let me keep in mind y'all, they have more Alphas in Congress than any other fraternity or sorority.
Starting point is 01:38:23 So remember who your daddy is. Henry, take a seat, because we even dominate y'all omegas. We'll be right back. Roll the Martin Luther filter right here on the Black Star Network. ["The Black Star Network Theme"] On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's wealth coach, black women are starting
Starting point is 01:38:49 businesses at the fastest rate than any other segment. However, finding the funding to build them is challenging. On our next Get Wealthy, we're going to talk with author, Catherine Finney, who wrote the book, Build the Damn Thing. And she's going to be sharing exactly what we need to do to achieve success in spite of the odds. As an entrepreneur of color, it's first building your personal advisory board.
Starting point is 01:39:23 I think that's one of the things that helped me the most. The personal advisory board of the people who are in the business of you, you personally and wanna see you succeed. That's right here on Get Wealthy, only on Black Star Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene. White nationalists rally that descended
Starting point is 01:39:46 into deadly violence you will not white people are losing their minds there's an angry pro-trump mob storming the US Capitol we're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance we have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
Starting point is 01:40:12 This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. There's all the Proud Boys guys.
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Starting point is 01:44:01 Folks joining us right now, Roy Tatum is a newly appointed chair of the political and civic engagement committee for the paternity. Roy, glad to have you here. I'm honored to be here. Let's get right to it. Bishop William Barber spoke yesterday and laid out in detail the numbers. When you talk about Georgia, it's a critical Senate election next year. North Carolina, critical Senate election. And when you talk about North Carolina, the black belt, which is really East North Carolina, not fully tapped in terms of a lot of black votes there. And so what will fraternity members do in terms to mobilize and organize specifically in those two states where we could have a huge impact on who the United States Center is in Georgia and North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:44:46 One of the things I would say that President Mattellus has charged us with training all of our chapters and engaging at the local level. So in North Carolina and Georgia specifically, I've spoken with district directors, chapter presidents, to engage their chapters and offer any level of training that they feel is needed. And they have graciously accepted. We just had a meeting where Congressman Scott and Congressman Green attended and it was very well received the mission that we are looking to embark upon. So we are working with Voteless People as a
Starting point is 01:45:23 Hopeless People and the Commission on Racial Justice and also as I lead the Commission on Political and Civic Engagement. I'm where the rubber meets the road and so basically what we're going to do is operationalize the plans for that Alpha Phi Alpha has promoted for over a century so chapters can engage at the
Starting point is 01:45:41 local level because we know that all part politics is local. Right but it has to be I think granular. I was last year I was in Right, but it has to be, I think, granular. I was, last year, I was in Ohio. Actually, I was in Ohio. I was in Michigan. I was in different states. And I happened to go into this black-owned restaurant in Cincinnati, and I'm sitting
Starting point is 01:45:55 there and a brother came up to me. He wanted a photo. He told me he was fratting. He said, we're getting ready tomorrow to do voter registration at the football game. He was talking about the Bengals game. And I said, why are you all in the Bengals game? And he said, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:46:11 I said, okay, how much time are you going to spend the Bengals game? And how many people do you think you're going to register the Bengals game? I said, as opposed to going down to the board of elections, identifying the ten largest black precincts in Cincinnati, and then pulling the data to see how many registered voters are in each one of those precincts and how many people voted in those precincts. I said, and then take your members and say we're going to do block walking on the folks who actually didn't vote. And he was shocked and stunned.
Starting point is 01:46:46 He said, we can do that. I said, yes. I said, I believe that you are expending significant amounts of energy with a low rate, low return on that investment as opposed to saying, no, we're going to focus on this one precinct. That's to me, I think what has to happen in North Carolina and Georgia. Okay. You take who, who the folks who did not vote and how do we all of a sudden say, we're going to hit this small town on this weekend, uh, Saturday and Sunday,
Starting point is 01:47:19 this small, uh, uh, small town, uh, in order to drive the vote. To me, that's what has to happen. That's how we maximize our power, limited resources, but maximize resources. You just offer what we call a data-driven strategy. And basically what we're saying is, one of the things that I'm happy to announce, and many people may not know this, is that we have an MOU with the NAACP. And what that means is with the NAACP, we can utilize and tap into their resources as well because they have access to the VAN, the voter access network, which costs hundreds
Starting point is 01:47:54 of thousands of dollars to access. So that, with that tool, we can go in and see the data. We can see who's voted. We can see who's not voted. We can see who's registered to vote. We can see who's not registered to vote. And we can do that by zip code. We can do that by city. We can do that by the state. And so for what you just stated, as a precinct, we could definitely attack low voter turnout and low voter engagement by going to the barbershops in those communities,
Starting point is 01:48:21 by going to the grocery stores in those communities, by going to the black church in that community. And so, and obviously tapping into the other fraternities and sororities as well, because all of us have some level of voter engagement. And so if we want to maximize our efforts, we have to tap into Delta Sigma Theta, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Omega Psi Phi Kappa Alpha Psi, not just Alpha Phi Alpha, because all of us together are living in the community. We can definitely make an impact that way. Candace.
Starting point is 01:48:52 I'm wondering what is it that you do that you think is the most effective in terms of old school, we're talking about going down door to door and collecting emails and things of that nature, figuring out who's not voting and is voting. But in terms of 2025, kind of a modern day approach, how would you compare the two? Well, I would say I've been in the world of politics since 1995. So I know what it's like to use a green bar report to go knock on doors, to use sheets of paper to register people to vote. And in comparison to accessing the Vann network, what I believe has to happen is we have to have a combination of high tech and high touch.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Because what we see now, many people are just leaning into the high tech and they're losing the high touch. Oh, we've sent 40,000 text messages. We've sent, man, I get these damn text messages. I'm like, Lord, if y'all send me one more. But again, you got to, because here's the thing. When you touch somebody, sister, our records show you didn't vote.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Can I ask you why? And she might be in the hospital when it you didn't vote. Right. Can I ask you why? The text don't do that. She may have been in the hospital when it was time to vote. She may have had a car accident. Or she may just say, well baby, I forgot. Or she may say, you know what, I ain't hear from nobody. See again, to me, I think sometimes you can be so new school that you act like old school don't work But it does and that's why people lean into the high tech plus
Starting point is 01:50:29 It's easy you ain't got to be in nobody's face and most people scared You know here's the thing you know people can say that they are supportive of a certain candidate Until you get into their face and say why? Why why do you support this candidate? Well, why do you think this candidate is better than another candidate? And they really can't explain to you why they bought into that person's brand or they bought into that campaign's brand, but they can't give you a policy point to why they're supporting that campaign. And so when we are able to hit the street with talking points, with policy points,
Starting point is 01:51:01 with what are the consequences if you cast your vote in this direction, then we can influence people in how to vote. And the thing, very here, obviously if they're moving as an organization, they can't endorse, but what they can say is, on these four issues, this candidate agrees with this, this, this, this candidate does it? Ma'am here you go That's a lot yeah The approach of political and civic engagement committee and this social justice committee that alpha Phi Alpha is forming we are not Candidate based we are not personality based we are issue based so we will have positions on education
Starting point is 01:51:42 We will have positions on diversity equity and inclusion. We will have positions on business and entrepreneur development and leadership. We will have positions on the environment and climate. And so these are the things that we plan to take to our local elected officials, our state elected officials, and obviously we'll ultimately have an Alpha Advocacy Day on the Hill, which we definitely want to invite you to participate in, Brother Mark. Before I go, Teresa, somebody said, this is Stephanie Humphrey, says, why do voters have to hear from somebody to vote?
Starting point is 01:52:13 Well, first of all, a lot of folks don't vote. Last election, 90 million people did not vote. That's right. The reality is there are people who are living lives, who are doing things, they don't necessarily vote. It's simple as that. Teresa, go ahead. You know, it's so interesting that the Republicans The reality is there are people who are living lives, who are doing things, they don't necessarily vote. It's simple as that. Teresa, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:52:27 You know, it's so interesting that the Republicans kind of put this out and meant it for good on their end. But hearing from you and I guess what you guys were talking about during the conference and how you're going to be reactivating your Alphas in all these areas, I'm just in awe. Yeah. Right? You know, I don't have to,, I'm just in awe. I don't have to, and I'm sure people don't have to be a member, because we're females, of Phi Alpha fraternity, but I'm sure there are going to be local things that are happening
Starting point is 01:52:54 in the districts where me and Candace can get involved and everyday folks. So for me, I see the Republicans doing this as a way to make sure that they are in office. But I think what they did is actually reactivated the civic engagement portion because of what they've been doing these last couple of years to hurt our people and to roll back efforts. I now see this as an opportunity for us. I'm just very excited what you just said.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I'm excited too because we're forming a community. We have a community that people are excited to be engaged in the civic engagement process. Not everybody knows how to engage. And so that's why I think we see some low voter turnout or low engagement. People are intimidated to go to the city council or to go to the state legislature by themselves.
Starting point is 01:53:40 But if they can go with a crew, they can go, hey, where are your colors? Where are your alpha tie? Where are your alpha blazer? We all have those. You know, we want to wear our alpha blazer. And so, and then we can give them the talking points of a fraternity. They're excited. And then on top of that, find a person that represents you. Who's the person that represents your neighborhood as we talk about the state legislature? And then they know who to talk to and they have their talking points.
Starting point is 01:54:08 So we look forward to this kind of activity all across the nation. Yeah, I saw the Alpha Blazers out there. It didn't matter, it was 90 degrees. They were like, we got them on and we're going to help you win. That's right. Because we ice cold, so they heat them up. Well, you know, I'm wondering, how do you really get to a young person though, because you're not going to be in their algorithm if they're not clicking on you.
Starting point is 01:54:27 So how do you really get to that 18, 24 year old, that one who's not in school learning exactly? Like they have to go outside of school to learn what you are giving. But how do they even find out about you when I have students that will be on here for 18 hours a day. And if you're not in their algorithm it doesn't resonate and I'm wondering and this is where you come in. I was a little about to tell you. Yeah, you know how do you connect that?
Starting point is 01:54:52 Good combination of high tech, high touch. I love this high touch thing. Yes, we have to meet the people where they are but I also think we need to listen to the issues of young people. They got their own issues, right? That's happening throughout their lives, right? From curfews to jobs to access into centers before the age of 18. So they also have their own concerns.
Starting point is 01:55:16 And what we've been seeing, especially on these mass media platforms, is that millennials, Gen X, Gen Y, I hate the old generation, but the 18 to 24 age they have been activating their voice through social content and I think having some of those activators will also help but also get them more informed and educated as they put themselves out there. But those folks, but let's be clear, those folks ain't just staying in the house. So they also still going outside,
Starting point is 01:55:47 which means that you still have to be at those events, communicating and sharing with people. But I do think it is important. I don't care what the age is, where you actually ask folk first, what is it that you care about? When people come up to me all across the country, I don't care whether I'm at a convenience store,
Starting point is 01:56:07 it could be in an airport, it could be walking down the street and somebody's like, man, what's going on? I can't believe this and I wanna do something or I don't know what to do. And I always start this year. What are the three things you care about? Then they go, what do you mean? I'm like, there's something you care about.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Yeah. What are the three things that you care about? And when I hit them with that, then they're like this, this, this. At a brother, he was like, I care about education. I was like, got it. I said, you got kids? He said, yeah, how are your kids? You tell him, I said, you're in the PTA. He said, no. I said, so how do you care about education? There you go. And he went.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Damn. Right. He's like, damn, dog, you hit me straight. I said, no, seriously. I said, how can you tell me that one of your three issues is education, but you're not even in the PTA? I said, so I said, I need you to answer this. Who do you think is going to save education if you Are not involved and he was like man. I never thought about like that I'm like precisely so part of the problem is people are looking for somebody else to do something And so I think by asking that now you're forcing them to define those three things and now you're trying to say but what you're Gonna do So that's the other that's the other challenge there. And then when that happens, that now changes the conversation
Starting point is 01:57:30 because now they have to be a part of the solution. But you can't do that unless you touch somebody, which is why I believe the precinct block walking is so critically important. When you talk again and tailoring your time, I just don't believe in just sort of this broad thing. I suppose like, no, no, no, no. If I could move 50 votes in this precinct and 50 in that one. And I got to remind people Obama won North Carolina in 2008 by 14,100 votes. It was literally less than one vote for precinct. That's how he won the state. And so that's what we're talking about. The woman who just got elected to the North Carolina Supreme Court, she won by 755. So what happened at Chappaquiddick?
Starting point is 01:58:21 Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you.
Starting point is 01:58:42 The story really became about Ted's political future Ted's political hopes will Ted become president Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control and he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal The Kennedys have lived through disgrace affairs violence you name it. So is there a curse every week? We go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. America history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.
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Starting point is 02:01:24 votes. 401. And there were more than 100,000 black people in North Carolina who didn't vote. In fact, I was, Bishop Barber and I were talking, we were texting today. And again, this is the data he presented yesterday. I'm about to mess y'all up. In Georgia, 1,016,000 black people in Georgia did not vote.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Trump won by 115,000 votes. In North Carolina, 661,000 black people did not vote. Trump won by 183,000. Our silence is literally killing us. Our silence is literally killing us. 661,000 in North Carolina, 1,016,000 in Georgia did not vote. Overall 90 million people didn't vote. 40% of white evangelicals voted for Trump and Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House and he's Speaker of the House by 7,000 votes. They won the seats that gave them the House. They won those seats by 7,000 votes. That's why every little, that 20 here and 30 here, that's the election.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Two things, the 20 here and 30 here, you know how we do, we tell 20 and 30 other people. So it's not just the 20 and 30, right? It grows and that's how we talk. But the other thing is this, we have such a serious messaging problem and that even when you say those numbers if I'm someone who doesn't really understand the power of my vote and I'm going out on a day to day in my community and I'm being treated like I do not count and I have and I'm being
Starting point is 02:03:42 told I do not count because I didn't get the loan, I didn't get the house. I can't, you know, my loan has doubled, you know, for my student education. My kids, you know, might be on opioids. I don't have insurance. All of that is very, very defeating. And I think that that's the balance that we are dealing with.
Starting point is 02:04:00 The messaging really and things that you're doing, that's why it's so important because you continue to hear that message, then you can fight the other messages that people are continuing to tell, even us on any given day. But we kind of have different tools in order to deal with it.
Starting point is 02:04:13 We understand that life be life. Exactly, exactly. That's exactly. So the thing is, our votes, our voice, help make our lives better. Yeah, and that's the translation that I don't think a lot of people get. That's why I keep saying the organizations have to actually do it.
Starting point is 02:04:28 That's right. Because what happens is if you're waiting for the candidate to do it, then it's not going to happen. And so that's why what I keep saying to the organizations, this is where we can fill the gap because again, we are self-funded. We can handle our sales. We can be in control of that. And we don't have to ask somebody's opinion. Because, again, we are self-funded. We can handle our sales. We can be in control of that.
Starting point is 02:04:45 And we don't have to ask somebody's opinion. When we do it, we're not asking some white's campaign strategy. We're not asking them, hey, please, pretty please, can we do this? We're like, yeah, we're going here. And that's why I keep saying to people, if you want to give money, give money to groups that are actually doing it. When you support Black Voters Matter, we know that money is going to folk on the ground,
Starting point is 02:05:08 it's going to black-owned media, it's going to black strategists. That's the whole point. I just think a lot of people don't understand that. Yep. All right, Roy, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
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Starting point is 02:06:49 This is the other side of change only on the Black Star Network. Now streaming on the Black Star Network. I had been trying to get a record deal for a long time. You know, when I finally got signed to the Motown record label in 2003, I was 34, 35 years old. And up until that time, I had been trying to get record deals the traditional way. You know, you record your demo, you record your music, and you send it to the record labels, or maybe somebody, a friend of a friend knows somebody that works for the record label. And really chemistry was, that was my last ditch effort
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Starting point is 02:10:03 Live in Philadelphia at the Alpha by Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated National Convention. Folks are getting ready for the Step Show on this Friday. We are glad to be here, of course, talking, doing our show, talking about all the great things that have happened, not only with Alpha, but also just with all of the stuff that we are covering as well. So we are just again glad to be here. So let's talk about a couple of things folks. And y'all know we always talk about the importance of black owned media and the reality is we are living in a very different time today.
Starting point is 02:10:45 We see what is happening in this landscape. Dwindling voices, if you will, especially when it comes to black talk radio. And here in Philadelphia, WRD radio has had to deal with that. Recently had some layoffs that have impacted the station. And a lot of people are concerned about that. And we talk a lot about it on this show. Y'all, media is driven by advertising. That's right.
Starting point is 02:11:11 And the reality is 350 to $400 billion is spent every single year on advertising. Black-owned media gets anywhere from.5 to 1%. Okay, I won't tell you what I just said. That's all black on media. Take your pick, that's Urban One, that's Black Enterprise, that's Essence, that's everybody, 0.5 to 1%.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Now, many of these companies have market share, the black market share is 20, 30, 40%. So their spin does not compare at all to how black folks are supporting their products. And so that's what's going on, which also means that black folks have to be stepping up to support black-owned media. Joining us right now to talk about what's happening at WRD is the host of evening words. Dr. James Peterson.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Glad that he can join us. Of course, still have my panel here, Teresa Lundy, Candice Kelly. Joining us is Andy Pierre, chief political strategist, founder of Fox and Lion Communications. Glad to have you here with us as well. James, take us through because, I mean, look, WRD is fighting a good fight. WVON in Chicago fighting a good fight. And folks are always saying, oh, my God, I love listening to her. I love listening to VON.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Oh, my God, Roland, I really love your show. And that's one of the reasons why, like, when I purposely said, yo, the power is going to cost us $1,800. That's the real deal. Well, the lights are bright, bro. The lights are bright. You damn right. You paid for that.
Starting point is 02:12:51 Right, because I paid for some good ass lights. You absolutely right. Those lights cost about 10 grand. But again, I do that because I need people to understand that this stuff don't just happen. It costs money to run a media enterprise. It does. It does. I mean, there's a happy, slightly happy ending to our story rolling.
Starting point is 02:13:13 First of all, thank you for having me on and thank you for supporting WRD, especially through these tumultuous times. But WRD serves the black community here in the city of Philadelphia. And as you might imagine, during the 2024 presidential cycle, everybody was coming through. They all want to come to WRD. Everybody wants to come on WRD. That's great. We did that work. We continue to do the work. Folks know that, because it's been publicized in the media, that we had to lay some folks off. That's above my pay grade. Sarah Lomax and the Lomax family, who own the station and have operated for 20 plus years,
Starting point is 02:13:44 had to make some tough decisions because of a lawsuit that's been filed. I'm not really authorized to speak on all the details of it, but some of that's also been published as well. Yeah, we talked about it here on the show. And so the layoffs happened, but the good news is that we did a fundraising campaign just about a month ago. We set a modest goal of 20K for the month of June. We raised almost $70,000 in that campaign.
Starting point is 02:14:10 So a lot of those folks who say, hey, we love listening to WRD, we love what you guys are doing, some of those folks, $5,000. That was your campaign for June. What was your number for July? That's an excellent question. And what's your number for August? That's an excellent question. That's actually not what I think that our team was excited about the community being
Starting point is 02:14:28 galvanized and energized in that one particular moment. I'm sure we'll see more WRD fundraisers. No, no, no, no, no. It has to happen. I mean, I'm seriously, listen, people, I love when these haters talk and I don't really give a damn about haters. Oh man, you always begging for money. I'm like, because bills are monthly.
Starting point is 02:14:48 Yes, they are. The reality is that in my office, we don't have regular Wi-Fi. That's right. We got fiber. That's right. That fiber costs me $2,500 every month, whether we are in it or not. And so I purposely put that out there because what happens is I don't want our people only supporting us in crisis.
Starting point is 02:15:15 When the glass has been broken in case of emergency. It has to become a regular thing and that has to be there because people say, oh my God, y'all really important. What you deem important is how you spend your money. That's right. And if you think that Starbucks every day is important, the reality is if you don't drink Starbucks for a week, you can give that to WRD or to this show to some other black
Starting point is 02:15:42 on media. That's just real. And I would just add to that Roland that that concept is at a premium right now. You see what they did to Colbert, right? Yes. I mean, they're crushing dissent. And there's a lot of ways in which there are a lot of end-arounds to undermine black media. There's a lot of different ways to do it.
Starting point is 02:15:57 But we do need our communities and our people to come out in support out of their pockets on a regular basis. If you like what black media does, if you understand the importance of the voice, the interventions that we can make in these critical times, you gotta come out and support. Well first of all, let me clarify. You like what black-owned media that focuses on news and information.
Starting point is 02:16:17 That's right. Because Andy, part of the issue that I have, and I make this all the time, is that we support a lot of bullshit. No, I don't care. We's like, everybody knows I despise Zeus Network, but they've got thousands upon thousands of people who pay that money every month to watch bullshit. Yet when stuff jumps off, oh man, we ain't know, we ain't know, cause yeah, you were watching bullshit. And so we have to go there, now I see Doc,
Starting point is 02:16:54 he like damn bro, but the reason I have to say that is because we are bemoaning today, man, what happened to Jett, what happened to Ebony, all that sort of stuff. The media landscape has changed. And so we just have to sometimes put it out there and challenge our folk to say, we gonna need you to support. You go ahead, you go ahead and speak to that.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Hold the microphone up. So the thing is, we, black media has played a very big role as far as our successes politically in Black owned black own now keep making that distinction because there's black media That's right black targeted media that we don't own. This is true So now in Baltimore City for instance, like they're like Fox News pretty much controls our city, right? Now when it comes down to media, black-owned media outlets- City of Baltimore. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Right. So the black-owned media- Sinclair Television owns the Fox affiliate. Yep. That same guy, Baltimore's son. That's right. And he uses that to hammer the mayor constantly in Baltimore. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Shout out to Mayor Scott. And so now the thing is, is that black media is generally the only outlets that are talking about the good things that is going on that the black leaders are doing. They're, you know, like when you look at the other media outlets, if it's bleeding, it's leading. And so it's like, doesn't matter what progress we make, unless we are supporting and we're looking at what the black media, black-owned media outlets are putting out and we're clicking their links
Starting point is 02:18:31 and we're sharing their links, then we'll always continue to be buried and we'll always continue to complain about the fact that we're not getting the opportunities that we should be getting. See, see, Teresa, it is a mistake that people realize, they don't realize they make. So my grandmother owned a catering business.
Starting point is 02:18:49 And so the reason I, the reason I have the view that I have because I watched it, I watched, so they lived eight blocks from us, all right. So I would always be over there after school, my brother and I started with a catering business, we were seven, eight years old. So I knew what it was like to sit on the couch the group the Bride's daddy or the grooms are sitting there with me
Starting point is 02:19:11 We watching TV and a bride and her mama in there with my grandmother booking a wedding And I would sit there and I'm talking about the book you know It might be four or five six hours, and they sitting there going through everything I'll run a do we go do silk flowers, fresh flowers, we gonna do glass, plastic, we'll be going all this sort of stuff. And nearly every time they'll sit there and get to the bottom,
Starting point is 02:19:33 my grandmother got her legal pad and then get to the bottom and it might be 14, 15, 17, 18,000. And they folks like, oh, Mr. Lamon, I'm sorry. You know, all we had, we just had about 6,000. Why y'all ask to come here and tell me you had six grand? And I said, he's spending all his damn time.
Starting point is 02:19:51 And so that's how, so I'm watching that because here's what I understood. My grandmother could not charge what she needed to charge and she didn't, which means that she paid us less. That impacted her being able to run her business. And so that ain't how I roll do it Call me and they like hey man, we would love for you to live stream this event Okay, where oh it's gonna be in this city. Gotcha. How long? Okay, hit a number. Oh
Starting point is 02:20:24 We can't that that's that's bigger than our budget. I'm like we won't be there now. I say that because So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to there are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left a woman behind To drown there's a famous headline. I think in the New York Daily News Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes.
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Starting point is 02:23:29 Because folks are always asking, can you cover this? Can you cover this? Can you cover this? And I literally go, you do know that stuff costs. And I told you, I'm petty. Right. I have the database of all 36,000 donors. I will run your name. And I'll be like, this person has never supported our show.
Starting point is 02:23:53 But you want me to show up to broadcast from your event. At a discount. Yeah, you know, Roland, you're totally right. And you know, as a fellow business owner myself, you know, I think when it comes to wholesale deals we can only do but so much right at a certain time but when you have black owned media from the top on bottom like you know if we look at the quality and excellence that from I've been a part of this show for over
Starting point is 02:24:22 four years now I had to do the math the other day and seeing it from a part of this show for over four years now. I had to do the math the other day. And seeing it from a team of two to evolve from 10 plus. We didn't have these lights. It did have these lights. That's right. We didn't have these cinematic cameras. We didn't have these cinematic, like we got Netflix College. That $5,000 fly pass.
Starting point is 02:24:39 Absolutely, absolutely. These monitors are new. I've been right. But as you grow. As you grow. And that's the point. So again, and I can only take from my experience of seeing, you know, Roland just opened the door of opportunity, right? I was brought in by a friend, that friend introduced, and you can't not have a voice when you're sitting alongside a rolling. But what I will say is the growth has come like just as a very fast pace and it's incredible to watch.
Starting point is 02:25:11 So when people are reaching out and, you know, looking at the camera here, when you're reaching out and asking those, you know, to bring that same funk, that energy, you know, it is a cost because what you don't want is somebody to come there and they're not giving you that excellent quality. So I totally get it. It's the same thing with our services.
Starting point is 02:25:31 I have a non-profit rate, I have a corporate rate, and I have a, okay. I don't have two rates. I got one rate. I got one rate. We got a non-profit rate. Because the invoice ain't two invoices. It's one invoice. One invoice.
Starting point is 02:25:45 Well, maybe I gotta step it up, you know? Well, I just, but see, I need people to understand why I'm so hardcore on this, because if WRD disappears, if VON disappears, if the Philadelphia Tribune disappears, we already see right now how we've been decimated in black-owned media. And folks sit here, and I have been saying for two decades now, Candace, we will rue the day when we do not have black-owned media and we're having to go ask somebody white for permission, can y'all please cover our stuff? That is not a day we wanna see.
Starting point is 02:26:32 No, and it is not a day that's gonna happen in this administration. And when we talk about Stephen Colbert or PBS or anybody else who is going through financial struggles, let's talk about Trump and suing the Wall Street Journal and Trump and suing and winning against ABC and Trump suing Paramount, which we know is connected to Stephen Colbert.
Starting point is 02:26:58 When we look at that, we know that diversity of thought is something that the powers that be do not want. And emphasis is on the word power, because they have the power to tell a Stephen Colbert that you're going to be off the air. But the other thing is that we have to understand the numbers and that when we talk about media like you, we are talking about Stephen Colbert on a good day was averaging 2.5 million. Rolla, we know your numbers are good. We know your numbers are that good, too.
Starting point is 02:27:30 People have to understand once again the power that they have in order to go out there and do on their own. But it has to be black-owned media or else somebody can come and shut you down. Yeah, absolutely. Because they're shutting the white boys down. Because see, on the radio side, you had WBLS in New York. So when Inner City broadcasted, Persons Shutting the Family owned it.
Starting point is 02:27:52 But then when they got sold, guess what? They flipped that format. And what was a black radio station? Became a sports station? That's right. It became something else. And that's the thing that people have to understand. And so I want our people, again, not to respond in a state of emergency.
Starting point is 02:28:09 It has to be consistent and continuous. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about the sustainability of black-owned media. And I think that's always been a challenge. Roland, you've done incredible work here, as you know. Also the benefit of being a second-generation entrepreneur, being in the room and hearing those things in your own family helps prepare you. And I feel like we need to understand, like, maybe we started this race a little bit late
Starting point is 02:28:30 in this country when it comes to meeting, when it comes to ownership. But now it's like at a premium, we got to get caught up. And that sustainability that we're talking about is like, listen, we engage the community. We get a lot of requests to come out and do live remotes as well without people fully acknowledging the cost of coming out and doing live remote. We try to do those things as much as possible to stay engaged, but some of this is about giving our community the critical media literacy to kind of understand what the context is. Because again, I believe people will support as long as we tell them what it is, what we
Starting point is 02:28:57 bring to the table, and how they can support us. And as long as you ask. You got to get that PBS model. You got to ask. You literally have to ask. Yeah, we don't have to tell you. But you, yeah. That's a challenge, bro.
Starting point is 02:29:09 That's what we're talking about. No, but seriously, I mean, because this is one of the things that, and I've had to have this conversation with other people, is they're like, man, well, you know, I don't know, I'm like, yo ass wanna be out of business? No, I mean, no, I mean, no,
Starting point is 02:29:22 I have to be hardcore people like that because the reality is it all costs. What happens is, in too many of our cases, and I tell black people this constantly, we love to talk about and we carry it as a badge of honor. Man, we've done a whole lot with little. I ain't trying to have that conversation. No, seriously. I hear you. I don't want to survive conversation.
Starting point is 02:29:51 I want to thrive conversation. And so, like when we started, so when we laid out, it actually really was, I said we're going to do a for-profit, but it really was taking a nonprofit model by saying we have a fan club. And when I started started I also made clear And I don't know exactly how y'all are doing it, but I ain't gonna this is how I did I said listen me clear. We ain't sending you no stuff We know I was like yo, I said if I got a
Starting point is 02:30:18 Hat mugs tote bag I said swag cost money Postage cost money. So the reality is if you gave $50, I said it might be $10 left. So I said when you send money, you're investing in the show and what are you getting? You're getting this two hours a day, four other shows, plus the live stuff that we covered. So when people are watching us cover this congressional hearing or this live event, they don't realize that I have to pay Associated Press 150 grand a year. When people say, man, I love the app, that's $140,000 a year. Oh, I run down the cost because people need to understand that this stuff is real. So when you give folks like, Oh my goodness, man,
Starting point is 02:31:03 I love you guys. Uh, you're not a sprint up a little you new vehicle yet. That was two hundred eighty four thousand dollars And so that and so so we can't do what we do if the support is not there And again, that's how it has that's how we have to be and so it's critically important and folk in Philadelphia support the station Because and we also have to we also have to be hardcore and Telling folk Yeah, I'm sorry. We're not gonna be there No, seriously, I ain't got a problem saying no, we can't make it happen. No, right. I know is a complete sentence
Starting point is 02:31:41 Yeah, yeah, I think it's a delicate balance rolling between delicate for us the delicate balance because Number one member Philadelphia's force big city. No country. It is it is no no no no see right see doc Hold up see you gonna make me first of all what what little youth group you in? What this is what they said this is why I couldn't be on the show what's that? What's that? I can't see it, Movi. What's that? Omega Psi Phi. Oh, yeah, yeah, because I don't even read the letters.
Starting point is 02:32:08 I don't know what to ask you with WID. So right now, see, his mistake. So seriously, this is the mistake you just made. 1, April 3, 1968, Dr. King said in Mason Temple's last sermon, he said, individually, black people are poor. He poor he said collectively we're one of the largest economies in the world without question so the mistake that we make when we start with the premise we are poor no we're not let me finish bro I wasn't I'm not coming from a deficit model I'm giving you some context and give you some context the poverty rates
Starting point is 02:32:41 in Philadelphia do matter in terms of the communities that we serve. We have to stop serving some of those communities, right? The organizations, non-profit and otherwise, that work with them are sometimes our partners in the work that we have to do. I got you. It is a delicate balance to serve the community on the shoestring budgets of black-owned media. And what I'm saying is, that's cute, but I disagree Because the bottom line is this here. The bottom line is this here if somebody says Man, I really love what y'all do Can you support with one dollar? Exactly?
Starting point is 02:33:15 Exactly. See you can't keep telling me Man, this is so valuable. This is so needed. And I'll literally say Can you not buy one soft drink? For one, there are people who give us one dollar a month. That one dollar is just as powerful as the person that gave me a thousand because if a hundred people give me a dollar a month, that's $1,200 a year. Yeah See, so we so and when we do that person like damn ain't never thought about yes. I'm asking you you think WRD is so valuable. Yeah, I'm asking you not to buy a bag of chips once a month
Starting point is 02:34:01 No, no, no, that's how we have to reduce it and a person's like damn I ain't never thought about it like that way, no. That's how we have to reduce it. And the person's like, damn, I ain't never really thought about it like that way. To me, that's how we have to do it. Because if you say it's that important, don't buy one bag of chips. That's all. I ask you don't buy it. That's $2.79. Yeah, bag of chips is $2.79. You throw in tax. So I'm asking you, send us $3. This is some expensive chips, Lord have mercy. But that's the truth. But you know what?
Starting point is 02:34:28 I think that also people need to understand this whole idea of legacy media and that what word is, what you are, what you are, the seed that you planted, when were you, 2019 when this kicked off? 18? We're in the 67 years of September. Yeah. So this is a new type of legacy media. We talk about legacy media, we talk about NBC, but this really is a legacy media and if people understand how far that goes and what the images of seeing ourselves on television or on YouTube or wherever you might
Starting point is 02:34:58 see them on your handheld, how that translates because we know what the media has done to the black community and how we're portrayed. But legacy is also changing. So yeah exactly. So for instance, I wouldn't call WRD a radio station. You're not a radio station. It's a platform. No you're a media company because you're doing audio but in this digital world you can also be doing video. That's right. You can actually, you can utilize AI to take what is spoken, turn those into written stories, now you have that.
Starting point is 02:35:33 So now you completely are changing. You're going way beyond just that one particular medium. And that's the world, that's just the world that we're living in to now serve the audience. Word is doing that word has the app Yeah, my show is on Facebook word radio twitch every you know it's definitely doing that. Hello. Yeah Hello, y'all are y'all on Facebook y'all on YouTube We are we have our YouTube page is not as active as not y'all y'all need to y'all need to stop wasting time Facebook
Starting point is 02:36:00 You recommend let me help. Oh, absolutely. First of all, Facebook demonetizes black news. They demonetize black content. Now if you're doing entertainment and goofy shit, oh they actually will fund that. But if you're doing news, absolutely. So, y'all should be driving your folk to your YouTube channel because YouTube's model is much more content creator friendly.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Second of all, it's the largest video platform in the world. Netflix is number two. And so once you hit a certain number of hours and viewing hours on YouTube, you're not qualified for the YouTube ad program. So what I do is, all of you, our TikTok, our Snapchat, our Instagram, we drive everybody to our YouTube channel to drive that. And then, because again, that's a program that you could call it literally passive income,
Starting point is 02:36:54 but that's going to generate far more revenue. The check that we get every month from Facebook is a joke. It doesn't even remotely compare to check on YouTube. You know you're talking above my pay grade, Roland. I'm a host on WIU. No, no, I know you're a above my pay grade rolling. I'm a host on W Right now you're the best Don't be on till everybody on Facebook Yes, you too because again you can drive more revenue there than you can on Facebook
Starting point is 02:37:22 But again, that's understanding how the platforms are moving and working. At the end of the day, it's about driving revenue to keep doing the work. It is. It is. And I also find that when you are in that position, see, you know all the things,
Starting point is 02:37:36 because you should know all the things about the AI. And you share it. And you're sharing it. That's right, but you should also know the things. You know why? Because you should know what it means to You know create a version of yourself and type in the wording and there you are talking I spent eight hours one Saturday going through all the apps that I hear people are talking about
Starting point is 02:37:56 You know mid-journey and the AI and you know You can make a version of yourself and I type myself in and there I was and the words that I typed I saw myself But I wasn't really saying the words, but I was able to create an image of myself saying those words. Eventually those types of things that you learn, they have a place somewhere with what you're doing, but you do have to get everybody caught up
Starting point is 02:38:16 on what's going on in the AI world and what's going on with all these platforms. You know, there's been professional development in that space for all the journalists, learning how to use AI as a tool and all the work that we do. Sarah's a great steward of the business for sure when it comes to those things. I think that there has to be some adjustments and there are already adjustments obviously we had to lay some folks off but in terms of leveraging the right social media platforms that YouTube piece is right. I
Starting point is 02:38:41 know that there is a YouTube platform for WRD, but all the rhythm is on Facebook now. That's an interesting thing. And again, I don't control that, but it should be made for organizations trying to expand what they're doing in terms of their footprint on social media. Yeah, I mean, listen, we know how the world is, again, the world is chained.
Starting point is 02:38:57 It is a completely different world than we are used to. And I just want our folks. All right, so yeah, so here's the deal. Y'all got, WRD has 5,700 subscribers on YouTube. Let me see, y'all have had a total of 892,000 views. So WRD already qualifies for the YouTube Ad Modernization Program. So y'all should be in it.
Starting point is 02:39:20 And so I'll say this here. When it comes to YouTube shorts, y'all don't spend a lot of money trying to do YouTube shorts because from a financial standpoint It's about 25 cents per video the watch ads actually generate more money But this but the YouTube shorts does drive Subscribers and so all those things work together And so this is the stuff that that has to be happening because I'm literally having a conversation with a black newspaper that's going all digital in October and walking them through what that now means
Starting point is 02:39:50 to be all digital, how they have to build out their digital platform to survive in the future because the print product is no longer there. You wanna go ahead and say something. So, and to add on to what you're saying, it's like a lot of the market penetration that has to happen in order to reach the black voters, it has to, like, the black-owned media needs to start investing in that, mostly because people don't want to go look for information.
Starting point is 02:40:21 They want it to come to them. And so that's where the black-owned media needs to do a better job at putting that information, putting that in front of people. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I was like, man, you should build a site. No, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to go where they are. When I started this, people thought I was crazy. I said, no, no, no, no, we're going to stream here, here, here, where they already are and build that way. And they thought I was crazy. I said, because you've got to spend a ton of money trying to market somebody to come over here.
Starting point is 02:40:50 That's not how people are using content. And so I just need people to understand, no matter what city you're in, if you've got a black-owned radio station, you've got a black media product, understand they're covering things that other people are not covering. And I'm telling you, we are seeing right now, there's not a single black-owned media that has a congressional correspondent. And I told the CBC this.
Starting point is 02:41:15 They were like, we come out of our CBC meetings, there's no black-owned media there. I'm like, do y'all know what it cost to pay a congressional correspondent? I'm like, do y'all understand that? I said, oh, by the way, the federal government spends $1 billion a year on advertising. Black-owned media gets 1% of the federal advertising dollars. I said, so, I said, and I literally, I said to the CBC, I said, if y'all, I said, if, if y'all, I said, if we got, I said, let's just say 10%, I said, black on media gets 10% of federal money, it's a hundred million dollars.
Starting point is 02:41:51 I said, if we got 2 million of that, a hundred million, I said, I can have three correspondents hired in 90 days. Wow. Wow. I said, three correspondents and an editor, I said, to pay for the whole team, I said, that 2 million, I said in 90 days But did anybody went quiet I'm like yo, so don't so I'm like so do understand This is the reason why you're not seeing black correspond right while you're not seeing black writers
Starting point is 02:42:18 Or you're seeing correspondence get hired and then they're getting fired all in the same time We've seen CNN we we've seen MSNBC host now they're trying to start from scratch, right? And it's yeah, it's because Right and there's a cost for that, right? So but But I think again if they originally owned their voice, right? It's not much they could have said because you're under a parent company where there's a whole bunch of rules and regulations that you can say and can't. But if they thought about like the partnership, right, of forming, you know,
Starting point is 02:42:54 those relationships with independent black-owned media early on, now that they're free, now that they're free agents, I think that can also go a long way to just ensuring a better path of educational value for our communities. Absolutely. Well, look, first of all, if folks want to support the station, where they go? Go to WRDRadio.com backslash support. All right then.
Starting point is 02:43:21 We appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you and appreciate the work you do. Thanks a bunch. Got to go to a quick break. We'll be right then. We appreciate it. Thank you so very much. I appreciate you and appreciate the work you do. Thanks a bunch. Gotta go to a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm gonna check with our panel about how Trump's... So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown.
Starting point is 02:43:44 There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, Lon drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse?
Starting point is 02:44:11 Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well women said something like no 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down.
Starting point is 02:44:43 I'm Bob Crawford, host of American history Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
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Starting point is 02:47:39 Because oftentimes what we'll do is we'll accept what the world says about us as the truth in how we see ourselves, which that can be completely contrary to what the word of God says about who you are. That's on the next of Balanced Life here on Black Star Network. I'm Russell L. Honore, Lieutenant General, United States Army, retired, and you're watching Roller Martin on Viltage. It looks good on camera. The Alpha Fun Alpha Step Show is live and full effect. Come on Anthony, get that camera straight. Alright, it's happening as we speak.
Starting point is 02:48:50 We're just outside. I see Reverend Dr. Frederick Douglas Haynes just rolled through with his Alpha jersey on. Were you the? How are you doing brother? Were you the step master when you were at... We have us. We have us.
Starting point is 02:49:08 And people talk about rolling and say he steps like a cube. No, Q steps like rolling. Let them know. Roll is the step master. We learned from rolling and so did y'all Qs. First of all, we're talking about all the crazies going on. Earlier we had Dr. Ward on talking about the Alpha Pack and how they're going to be raising money.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Now looking at local races as well, not just the national races. That's it. And it's so important because, I mean, as you already know, Trump is targeting, especially in Texas, Houston and Dallas, and especially our girl Jasmine Crockett in terms of trying to get rid of her because he can't handle her IQ and so as a consequence he's attacking her going after Houston but we ain't gonna let that happen and so the Alphas recognize what Malcolm said you don't control your politics unless you control your economics so we controlling the money so we can say
Starting point is 02:50:04 something about the politics. I was good to see you and you clean your economics. So we control the money so we can say something about politics. I was good to see you. You clean as always. I try. I threw a little something on. I want to see you out here. Yeah, I'll be back shortly. Real quick here, of course, the Trump USDA screwing over farmers of color ending ending a 35-year program that gave targeted assistance to farmers of color, even dropping the phrase socially disadvantaged. To comply with Trump's order, the USDA ended its diversity efforts across 14 programs, canceling 3,600 contracts and grants, claiming it would save $5.5 billion. It's directly impacting black farmers who make up less than 5% of the nation's
Starting point is 02:50:48 farm owners. And I mean, look, I don't know how many times we've had to say this, Candace, but we kept telling these fools this was gonna happen. And to listen to some of these simple Simon Negroes telling us, Kamala wasn't really black, Trump really wasn't as bad as we thought, we just being hysterical, why y'all trying to scare us, we survived him the last time, we survived slavery, we can survive this time. But they're real quiet with all this anti-black stuff happening with the racists in the Oval
Starting point is 02:51:22 Office. And you know what? That tracks. Here's somebody, or people, who had everything written down in Project 25. Like you said, we've seen this. We knew this was going to come. We knew that this was going to be where we were. I just don't think people believed it.
Starting point is 02:51:38 Anything that has to do with DEI, anything that has to do with you giving me more in order to make up for what you've done for me Done to me because the history of this country is all going away right before our eyes Now is the time for people to really really pay attention now listen if I were those black farmers Here's what I would do just yet in terms of legally speaking legally speaking Trump that administration They don't want anything DEI, they don't want anything being decided by race or gender or ethnic origin, all right? Well then, and they want everything to land equally. Well, all right, then show us those numbers.
Starting point is 02:52:16 Then it's got to be, you know, what is the average, what's the percentage of black folks and then what's the percentage of- No, they actually stop collecting racial data. Right. So you won't have it. was just saying they stop collecting racial data but in terms of how it lands if you are not going to actually um actually put somebody out there the tracking no data so you you will not be able because it happened last time you will not be able to know how many fewer contracts we got because they're not collecting any racial data. Well, then that's going to be the responsibility of the organizations to do it on their own.
Starting point is 02:52:52 Because that's going to be key in order to rising up and saying, well, this is why we were asking for these numbers and this is why DEI existed. See, Andy, what I have been laying out, this was shortly after the inauguration, I laid out, I said, I need you all to understand, this is a concerted effort to defund black America. They want to attack the civil rights infrastructure and the economic rights infrastructure because that is the underpinning of black America. That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:53:21 That's their target. That's what they're doing. That's their target. That's their goal. That is definitely their target is definitely their goal. And we're not collateral damage. We are a target. Now it's mostly African Americans, immigrants, and women who are the main targets in this thing. And with what they're doing with black farmers, that's a very concerted attack on black generational wealth, because,
Starting point is 02:53:47 correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of these black farms have been into families for generations. And so when you take away the support for the black farmers, you are actively trying to reduce the amount of black wealth. I mean, you can't buy a piece of land and start farming in the city all willy-nilly. And of course, now we see Trump talking about threatening to sign an executive order limiting NIL money. Oh, they can't stand all these young brothers and sisters getting paid all this money. It's some mad white boosters.
Starting point is 02:54:20 They want to go back to that old system. Teresa? You know what? This reminds me of the clear marketing strategy of make America great again. And what again meant was, you know, black folks back on plantations. We were, you know, strictly in poverty. The masters were overseeing us and telling us to do our job. When to start, stop, wake up, sleep, who to be with, and who to marry.
Starting point is 02:54:46 So I see this as, again, we can go back to how great America was, and I think it was when black people were actually in position, but that again word for me is always the underlying dog whistle that says all of the things that you thought you were gonna win, all the things that you thought you needed to actually succeed and to help the next generation of leaders actually get by, we're actually gonna snatch that away.
Starting point is 02:55:16 So I think we're at a very pivotal time. All of us outside of role is probably millennials. So all of these things that are happening right now are just in real time going to affect our generation. And so it is like so apparent for us to not only steadfast, pay attention, educate others, not just always had to educate ourselves, but educate others, bring them on board and also activate. Right? educate others, bring them on board, and also activate. And so I think, well, I've heard for the last, what, two hours now is Roland bringing up
Starting point is 02:55:52 our congressional leaders, our PAC leaders, our organizational leaders, and they say we have a plan. So I think it's really up to us to figure out how do we make sure Make America Great Again don't put us back to the 1900s? You know what NIL did? It removed the hierarchy. Because now the ownership is not fully by them. People get to own who they are as well they should be because they were bringing in billions of dollars for schools anyway. You literally have brothers and sisters making 10, 15, 20 million dollars in college.
Starting point is 02:56:20 Pulling up with the same cars as owners of NFL. Flojo, the sister, she played basketball at LSU. I saw a podcast. She was going off saying, fool, stop blowing all your money. This sister is still in college. She said, I bought 20 acres of land with her NIL money. There you go. And the corporation that she started, she's like, oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:56:43 She said, this money going to last me for a long time. And that's what they don't like. Because understand why they want to attack the NIL money. Because now you're going to have educated black athletes who have to now learn financial literacy in high school. That's right. So now, that's why you got a brother who finished with Texas A&M, who got drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 02:57:09 He hasn't signed because he said, the language in the contract, y'all changed for the last, I'm not signing that contract. So when you make three, four, five, six, eight, ten million dollars in college, they're not used to that broke black athlete who desperately wants to get drafted to buy his mama a house. Well, he already bought a house. Right. He bought three.
Starting point is 02:57:32 So they don't know how to handle this financially educated, liberated black athlete who says, oh, I ain't got to go to the pros. I can stay in college one more year and make more than that rookie deal. Right, right. That's what's messing these cats up. And they're creating a legacy. And the reality is, I don't know what the hell jurisdiction Trump has thinking that he can stop NIL money when that's state.
Starting point is 02:57:57 He ain't got no power. Like, that's just another one of them BS executive orders he's going to sign. Exactly. That's exactly what it comes down to. That's all it is. All right. Let me thank our panel. I appreciate y'all being on the show.
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Starting point is 03:02:43 Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You the listener, ask the questions, did George Washington really cut down a charity? Did KM Marilyn Monroe having an affair? And I find the answers. I'm so glad you asked me this question. This is such a ridiculous story. You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And here's Heather with the weather.
Starting point is 03:03:18 Well it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade. Now let's get a read on the inside of your car. It is hot. You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there. Let's not leave children in the backseat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes
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