#RolandMartinUnfiltered - VP-elect Harris stumps for Ossoff/Warnock; Black clergy slam Loeffler; Trumpers target Black family
Episode Date: December 23, 202012.21.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Vice President-elect Kamala Harris campaigns for Ossoff/Warnock; La Marque Police Department released body camera footage of the officer who shot and killed a 22-year...-old Joshua Feast; President-elect Joe Biden got his coronavirus vaccine today; Black pastors rebuke Loeffler's attacks on Rev. Warnock; Trumpers target a Black family in Texas and set their cars on fire; Video shows cops in Boston deliberately running into protestors with their cars; Statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee removed from the US Capital; Kansas City newspaper is apologizing for it's racist coverage; Virginia Beach a black man is handcuffed for a crime he had nothing to do with + Morris Day is in the house with new music.Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Vice President let Kamala Harris.
She comes to Georgia to campaign for
John Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in
Columbus, Georgia. We were there and
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We're broadcasting live from Atlanta, Georgia.
Today is the beginning of the second week of early voting for the three Georgia runoff races. Three races involving, of course, John Ossoff.
You also have Raphael Warnock.
And then you have a state position where an African-American wants to be the first elected statewide in Georgia in 20 years.
Well, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, she was in the Peach State today. She was in Columbus,
Georgia, holding a campaign rally for all three of them. Of course, the runoff is January 5th,
and she took time out of her schedule. Now, it was supposed to be a rally happening actually
right now, but because of the
bill that was being voted upon in Congress as we speak, she had to return to Washington, D.C. She
still is a U. Where's BJ?
Where'd you go?
How about BJ Tillman?
Can we please get up for her?
So BJ, I don't know what she doesn't do because she does everything.
You've got to know about her because she is an incredible leader.
She, through this campaign up to November, was organizing folks, was registering folks.
Everyone from young students to the younger of the oldest of us, she has been organizing
people and still continues to be such a leader. And when I look at someone like BJ, I know
our future is bright. Let's give it up for BJ.
All right.
Well, it is so good to be back in Georgia.
It is so good to be back in Georgia.
And I am here first and foremost to thank you all on behalf of Joe Biden and myself for doing what you did in November.
Because you did what no one thought could be done.
You did what no one thought could be done.
And you made a statement not only about who is Georgia,
what is the voice of Georgia, what are the priorities of Georgia,
what Georgia will not allow to be denied about Georgia.
But you also made a statement about who we are as a country.
You allowed people around this nation to say, uh-huh, don't ever put us in a box and tell
us who we are.
We will tell you who we are.
That's what you did.
That's what you did right here in Columbus.
And so I am here, first and foremost, on behalf of Joe Biden and myself, to say thank you.
Thank you for what you did.
And, of course, no good thank you comes without asking for a little bit more.
So, January 5th.
January 5th.
January 5th.
You know, 2020 has been a difficult year.
2020 has been rough.
You know, people keep making jokes about 2020.
Like, we want this thing to be over.
But you know what?
As far as I'm concerned, Georgia, Columbus, 2020 ain't over until January 5th that's when 2020 will be over that's when we'll get this thing done because as you know
everything is at stake when it comes to the need to elect Reverend Raphael Warnock, to elect John Ossoff, to elect Daniel Blackmon,
everything is at stake. Everything that was at stake in November is at stake leading up to
January 5th. Look at what's happening right now in this state.
We're looking across the country at so much devastation.
People who have lost family members,
lost time being able to go to work,
lost time in terms of our children's education
and the days of their education they have missed.
There has been so much loss these years and in particular this year. We're looking here in
Georgia at the fact that one in seven families is describing their household as being hungry.
We're in the midst of a hunger crisis in America, and it's hitting Georgia hard.
One in seven describing hunger in their households.
One in six Georgian families are describing an inability or difficulty to pay rent.
One in four small businesses in Georgia have gone out of business or are about to go out of business. And what we are here to talk about and why everyone, all the
leaders are here right now together, because if you're here, you're a leader, is to say
that we will have our voices heard.
We will not let anyone silence us.
We will speak up about what we need.
We will tell you what we want, and we will make it happen through our vote.
And just like you did, you will do it again.
And here's the thing.
You know, I was here.
Joe Biden was here.
We were all here together in Georgia before November.
And remember how we knew what was at stake in the challenge ahead of us. We knew, like Stacey Abrams has been telling us and organizing against it, that there would be powerful people trying to prevent us from voting. We knew the kind of games they would play to make it difficult,
to suppress our vote, to make it confusing, to discourage us. And you know, when we talked about
that and we said we know the challenge that is before us. Well, the same challenge exists today.
Of course, VP-elect Kamala Harris was here because Democrats understand how critical
these two seats are. If Democrats win these two seats, that means they control the United States
Senate. It'll be 50-50. And once she is inaugurated she would break any
tie this is also important because it would solidify georgia as a swing state a state that
is no longer solid red so uh all this is at stake uh here uh and so that's what you're looking at
here joining us right now now pam dr avis jones weaver political analyst mustafa santa ago ali former senior advisor for environmental justice epa julian malvoli communist
president yamira bennett college first and foremost um i'll start with you um avis and that
is when you look at what is happening uh in this state uh it is a changing state the work that you
heard carmel har say, the work that
Stacey Abrams and the Fair Fight and others did registering people, going out there, putting
folks on the rolls, the fact that you're seeing significant increased black turnout, Latino
turnout, young votes turnout. This is how you change a state. And so they want to constantly
have the momentum. Last week, 1.3 million people
have already voted in person or via absentee balloting. And so Democrats, they want to win
this on the ground. Republicans want to saturate the airwaves. But the reality is there's no more
airtime to buy. This is going to come to turn out. And that's why today's rally was so important. And going to a place like Columbus that's not in metro Atlanta, but has a sizable black population.
Absolutely true. I mean, if you look at where we have been with Georgia,
what we're seeing right now is a state that is shifting, that is shifting demographically. And then you compound that with
the just tremendous organizing that's been happening at the grassroots level with not
only Stacey Abrams, but if you look at what Latasha Brown is doing and others who are based
in Georgia all the time, various members from the Black Women's Roundtable, there has been a lot of work that has
been put in to give the outcomes that we saw in November. And guess what? They have not let up
one iota. They are still out there doing the work to get that turnout because they know that
everything that they fought for in November is on the line with this particular runoff.
And if anything, they're just doubling down and going
even harder so that they can make sure that that turnout is at least at the level that it was
for the november election hopefully it'll be enough to take them over the finish line
um when you look at uh what is happening in this state, when you look at, again, these critical rural areas, Mustafa,
it means going there, spending the time there. We were in Savannah on Friday. We were in Athens on
Saturday. The folks at Black Voters Matter, I've been talking to them. They're focused on
places that's not Atlanta. They are focused on these rural areas because they want to increase
the turnout in these places. Yeah, you know, it's amazing that folks are everywhere, it seems like,
all the time. And they're actually making sure that they're talking to folks who normally
or sometimes actually get, unfortunately, don't get the attention that they deserve. So
I know, you know, Daniel Blackman,
who's a good friend of mine, that he's always been focused on rural communities. I know Reverend
Warnock very similarly understands the value and the power of making sure that you're creating a
coalition that touches everyone. So it's exciting to see so many doors continually getting knocked
on and making sure everyone know that they are valued,
that they're going to be honored by these folks and that they are needed to make it across the
finish line. Julian Malveaux, this is going to be obviously a very, very, very close race. President-elect Joe Biden, he was here in Georgia last week. He
was in Metro Atlanta. Of course, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris going out to Columbus.
We saw Senator Tim Kaine from Virginia. He has been here. Also,
Oleon Castro has been here with John Ossoff. And so no word, no word if former President Barack Obama plans to come to
Georgia. But Democrats certainly need to pull out all of their guns in order to combat Republicans.
They are the incumbents, Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue. And so, you know, so the question is,
I doubt, you know, there's no word whether Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or others are going to come here.
But again, they have to pull out all of the stops to make sure to get their folks out in order to win.
Roland, you're absolutely right. And Mustafa is right about the whole issue of where people are going.
Jamie Harrison in South Carolina has a pact that talks about the, I forget the name
of it, it's like the end of the road PAC, but it's people who have never been touched by political
figures. So they feel completely alienated. So going to Savannah, going to rural Georgia,
that makes a lot of sense. I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, how much sense it makes to bring an Obama or a
Clinton in when you have that blonde, that Barbie lookalike running around talking about radical
socialism, et cetera, because we don't want to alienate those who are on the fence. I think it
would be great, especially if President Obama would come. But I also have some. Julian, there's nobody on the fence.
Julian, there's nobody on the fence.
Nobody's on the fence.
This is not an on-the-fence election.
They decided.
The issue is you got to get them out.
And so bringing in Obama brings cameras, brings attention.
You got to get people excited and get them out.
Nobody is like like there are no
undecideds in georgia but rolling but rolling seriously okay getting them out is one thing but
who are you getting out bringing an obama in does that bring the crazy you know your word crazy you
know what white people out because right now at moment, you have these crazy, you know what,
white people who are
basically
rallying themselves around
what's that girl's name?
The Barbie.
Kelly Leffler.
I didn't forget her name. I just don't call
whose names in public.
No, but here's the deal,. But here's the deal, though.
Here's the deal, though.
Here's the deal.
They're talking about bringing in Trump, bringing in Mike Pence.
So guess what?
You got to match big gun with big gun.
OK, I don't disagree with you.
I'm just thinking ahead.
At the end of the day, what is most important?
Try to win.
The most important important is turnout.
The most important thing is turnout, and the turnout has to come from places where we haven't seen it before.
We have to see our folks in these rural areas where no one has ever seen them.
It's not enough that Raphael Warnock, and I bless him, a friend, good people, it's not enough that he can get his church out. It's like, who else can he get out? Same thing with Asaf. I mean, he
has engaged younger people, which is important, but who else can they get out? Meanwhile,
you've got these people. I'm about to try not to curse on your show.
So these Maryland farming idiots essentially
are attempting at every end to basically minimize
the importance of the black vote.
A Loeffler's attack on Warnock is ridiculous, but at the same time, what's real here?
I'm not trying to be contrarian here.
I'm just trying to say, let's think ahead, and I do think that turnout is critical.
It's the most critical thing.
It's really the only thing. But, okay, I'm confused that turnout is critical. It's the most critical thing. It's really the only thing.
But OK, but OK, I'm confused. I'm confused.
Because if we if we know turnout is critical, it kind of makes sense to bring out the that you would want, that you would be impressing upon Obama to make an appearance here probably on maybe next Monday.
Because here's the deal.
Early voting ends December 30th or 31st, depending upon your county.
Then the election is January 5th.
You've got Christmas on Friday.
You've got New Year's Eve the following Thursday, Friday.
Then you've got that last weekend, which is January 2nd through the 5th.
That's that Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
Bottom line is here.
I'm looking forward as well.
And I'm saying I'm looking forward to when.
This is a turnout election.
And if Obama comes out, first of all, the folk on the right, we know where they stand.
But the issue is in runoffs, Avis, typically Republicans do better because Democrats don't come out.
That's why you bring your big guns. That's why you put them on the camp.
That's why you flood the zone. That's why if you're the Democrats and you are sitting here in Georgia,
that's when you ask, look, look, Will Packer and Lynn Whitfield, Kiki Palmer, Common.
They did events this weekend, Friday and Saturday in Savannah, as well as in Clayton County.
This is where you sit here and say, fine, you bring back more housemen, Sam Jackson and Spike Lee.
You figure out all the folk you can bring. You sit here and flood all these different cities.
You send them to Warner Robins and Columbus and Savannah.
You send them all over to these places.
You send them to Augusta, to Macon, to all the different places.
Because at the end of the day, that's how you get it.
When we were in Albany, they said point blank that the turnout,
the African-American turnout was 58 percent.
58. What happens if you move that to 65, to 68, to 70?
That could win the election.
It certainly could. I mean, the key to Georgia is the black turnout, point blank period. The degree to which you can maximize that turnout
is the degree to which we can breathe a sigh of relief in terms of being able to flip the Senate.
And I happen to agree. You want to be able to pull out all your guns. Now, I would happen to think
that if you ask me, the most popular Democrat in America is actually Michelle Obama. But I don't
believe she, you know, she's made it plain that she
is not a huge fan of politics.
First of all,
remember, Michelle Obama
did nothing
in person leading up to
November 3rd. She did no
events. Virtual,
but she did no rallies.
Exactly. She did no rallies. She did
two videos that I thought were very compelling.
I'd love to see her do that again.
And I would definitely love to see Barack Obama on the ground as well as any and everybody who will motivate people to turn out.
I mean, this is not the time to hold anything back. You bring everybody to the table that can get that next person to be motivated and that
next person to be energized and that next person to take the step to vote early or to show up when
elected. Because let me tell you, we already know, we already know we have to overperform
to be able to get the type of impact that we need because we know the other side will do
everything they can to steal the voting power away from black people.
So we can't just show up.
We have to show up at a magnified scale,
knowing that part of what we're looking to do
is going to be challenged, if not thrown out all the way,
by shenanigans by the other side.
But, Avis, what about the backlash?
Oh, Mustafa, the thing...
There is no backlash!
It's a runoff.
All right.
It's a runoff.
But what's the, hold up.
But what's the backlash?
It's a, okay, so how about this here?
Republicans don't give a damn about Democrat backlash bringing in Trump, bringing in Pence.
They don't care.
They're saying, oh, if Trump and Pence can juice turnout, bring them in.
That's what you do.
You don't run saying, well, they already are not going to vote for you.
So your job is to say, if I can get more of my people out and more of my people will be
more of their people, then I win.
But I ain't never heard
a strategy, well, I think I can
win if I don't
fire all my bullets, but I
might be able to win this thing. Hey,
I believe you go down with no
bullets left. That's just me,
Mustafa.
Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying.
So, I think it's good to have a former President
Obama there. But I'd also have Frankie Beverly and Mays and Big Boy and Andre 3000, because those
are individuals that folks in Georgia and across the country want to see, want to hear from. So as
you said, you got to utilize everything that you got. So let's get the folks that people listen to, care about, honor and value in the mix.
Hey, look, all I'm saying is this here, Julian.
We've been on the ground now for two or three weeks.
We're going to be here through January 5th.
We had Glenda Carr from Higher Heights on here.
They hit the poll from hit strategies.
I think it was 35% of the black women poll did not know the runoff was January 5th.
Okay?
Because they had to move the rally.
Look, we were in Columbus today. There were people, black people, in Columbus who did not know that Kamala Harris was there.
We were actually at the gas station.
We, no, hold on a second.
We were at the gas station, filling up to drive back to Atlanta.
And we see, I thought she had already left, but she clearly had a meeting and then they
left later.
So, all of a sudden, motorcycles come by, motorcade, black woman, black woman, the car
next to us, she goes, man, something big must be going on.
I said, well, Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris is in town. She said, man, something big must be going on. I said, well, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is in town.
She said, really?
I didn't know that.
Now, I don't know about you.
Columbus ain't that big.
Now, granted, it was a last-minute deal.
It was a last-minute deal.
The thing dropped on Saturday.
It was a driving rally.
They were filled to capacity.
But I can tell you,
when Joe Biden was here, even though the place was filled to capacity, the whole street was
lined with people. There were a few people who were there for Harris. But again, that's one of
those things, to me, where you want to bring in a wave of heavy hitters, and people know what's
going on. And there is just constant awareness
because again there are people in this state who don't even realize there's a runoff on january 5th
julian final comment first of all i want to commend you for being there in georgia i think
it's really important that you're there and you're sharing really important information secondly i
agree with you that there's not enough information out there, and it
needs to be out there. Thirdly, my concern is that I'm not trying to be a contrarian, although I've
been accused of that many times. But I just think that we need to think about how this plays out.
Obama is a lightning rod for white people, and so are many others. And so while we strategically use folks like
Vice President-elect Kamala, I think we also just need to think about some of this. I think
Mustafa is right in terms of who people listen to. And I'm just concerned. I don't want, I mean,
you said who's going to vote for us, who's going to vote for. But I don't want these folks to get all ginned up and decide they're going to vote more because they see this as some liberal socialist plot, which is what the little blondie is saying about Reverend Warnock.
Maybe I'm just being cautious. Maybe I'm getting old.
Well, here's the deal. I think you're getting a little too cautious there, Julian.
Bottom line is, it's a black man already running for the U.S. Senate,
so hell, if they scared of black folk, Obama ain't going to be nothing different
because they probably already scared of Warnock.
All right, folks, let's go to this case in Texas.
We've been covering with the Lamarck Police Department.
They have released body camera footage of the officer who shot Joshua Feast earlier this month.
On December 9th, Feast was shot by Officer Jose Santos across the street from his uncle's home.
Here is the body camera footage that was released. Thank you..
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41, we're in front of 10- Purtle. I'm in my.
Stage medics.
First unit to get here, I need you to recover the gun.
He dropped it just outside of Dodge Charger.
Stay on the ground.
Do not move.
Put your arms out to the side, Josh. Josh, put your arms out to the side, Josh.
Josh, put your arms out to the side.
Josh.
Hey, stay inside for me.
Stay inside for me.
It's just somewhere on the ground.
He pulled it out of his waistband as he took off running. Okay.
41-13, you copy traffic?
10-4, just make sure you copy traffic.
Hey, keep an eye on that house, too.
This house? Yeah, Cyrus' house.
41, see if county and Texas City can send units out here. We've got a large crowd starting to gather. Josh, talk to me. Yeah.
Put on log that 34 had to pick up the gun because we got a large crowd. Rob, please don't start, Rob.
I'm going to talk to you a little bit, Rob.
I heard you say, I heard the gunshot,
then I heard you come out and show me your hand.
The gunshot's five feet from my shoulder, your hand.
I heard that, man. I heard that.
Y'all back up.
Y'all back up.
41.
I need units here.
Quick.
Step it up.
I don't care where they come from.
Y'all back up!
Back up!
Hey, first unit comes up, get that guy in the white do-rag.
Rob, he's the one instigating everything. Still breathing, y'all.
I can't get.
Rob!
Hey!
Rob!
I can't.
Rob!
Rob!
I can't get Max here until y'all stop.
Y'all just wait. Y'all just wait. Y'all just wait.
Y'all just wait.
You see this?
I can't get Maddox over here until we get this figured out.
He pulled out a gun.
He got a couple felony warrants.
He pulled a gun on me. When I get supervisor here, I'm gonna need y'all to determine if we need to bring the medics in or carry him out. I can't hear what you're saying. I got a lot of screaming.
Investigators say Fe feast was a person of
interest and possibly connected to the
recent recent shootings in the area.
Now, according to feast uncle,
a 22 year old was outside talking
to the mother of his child.
That's when Officer Santos was driving
down the street and made a U turn.
Santos pulled up and yelled feast name.
Feast took off on foot and then Officer
Santos opened fire strikingast in the back.
Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the Feast family, says the body cam confirms
that a defenseless man was shot in the back who posed no threat
to Santos. Joining me now is Attorney
Ben Crump, as well as
just pull up here, give me one second. We're going to be waiting for the mother to call.
And so, again, that footage there was came from the Houston TV station.
We did not get the direct footage. We're still working on that. Ben Crump Jones is right now.
Ben, there's several different things here. First of all, that video was five minutes long.
He shot very early in the video.
You hear the officer saying,
I got to wait to call in medics.
Then toward the end there, you hear him say,
let's put him in cuffs.
He's already shot in the back.
They made no effort to provide aid for him
for almost four minutes.
Yeah, you know, Roland, as Monique Pressley and I have discussed, he fails to do his duties as a first responder.
You even hear the neighbors who came out the house said he's still breathing.
Do something to help him.
And the police tells them, no, no, you all stay back.
And yet he won't do anything to try to help save his life. We believe that, you know,
once we get into this case, if there was any chance that medical attention paid to Joshua Feast would have saved his life. That's going to be another
charge on top of
the unnecessary shooting
of a defenseless man
in the back as he ran away
from him, Roland. And I just
have to say this, because
I want to give Lakeisha, his mother,
time to talk when she comes on.
The witness accounts out there
on that video clearly say
the officer never said stop. He never said freeze. And the only time, Roland Martin, that he said,
put your hands up, is after he shot him and he's lying on the ground bleeding out, dying.
One of the things that is
also strange,
you hear the officers saying
to the crowd,
get back, get back, get back.
Seeing the units
as possible.
And again,
what
is strange to me is that you shoot someone, you offer no aid, then your whole deal is get the crowd under control.
There's a body laying right there.
And then put the cuffs on them?
Yeah. And based upon the autopsy y'all had conducted,
the autopsy y'all had conducted showed
that pretty much he was dead there on the ground.
Yeah, and then they put the handcuffs on him, Roland.
And, you know, it begs the question, Roland,
because you and I talk often.
I know Mustafa was on earlier,
and we were talking about how much he enjoys our
conversations and fighting for our people.
Think about this, just opposed to Kyle Wittenhouse, the young white man in Kenosha, Wisconsin,
who shot three people, killing two of them, and had an assault weapon around his neck
walking towards the police.
And they did not see him as a threat.
Nobody attempted to arrest him.
Nobody shot him in the back.
Nobody killed him.
But yet, a black man running away from you, who you claim has dropped the weapon, based
on your own testimony, why shoot?
Why treat him less than a human being when you
handcuff him while he's
obviously unconscious?
But that's how they do our people, and it reminds
me of the scene with Michael Brown
and Ferguson, where the black people
started gathering around, and it
reminds me of George Floyd, where
all the people started gathering around
saying, look at the lack of humanity
that they extend to our children.
That is, that's precisely it there,
when you talk about that lack of humanity.
You and Joshua Fee's mother first got to see this video, correct?
When was that?
When did the city show y'all the video
before it was released to the public?
They showed it to us rolling on Thursday afternoon.
And, you know, his mother has been such a pillar
of the building for their family.
She's been dignified and faithful
to be there for his three-year-old son
and his five-year-old daughter, Joshua Jr. and Aaliyah.
But it was when she saw that video and saw her son lying on the ground,
not blurred out because when you go to your social media and my social media,
we want people to see actually him lying on that ground as his mother saw him said i'm hurt help
me help me i need help and that's when she just lost it because she's like and he won't help my
son he shot him in the back and now he's just gonna let him die and that's that's her first
born son roland so this is why we have to bring attention to this matter, because this is the 95th person killed since George Floyd was tortured to death in Minneapolis on May 25th, 2020.
The 95th black person killed.
Let me be clear about that.
We are waiting to speak to the mother of Joshua Feast.
They'll let me know very soon when she is on the line.
Ben, we think about this case.
We think about Michael Slater.
We think about so many different cases where these officers firing weapons at someone who's running away. And it begs to ask the question again,
why are you firing at someone who's running away,
who didn't assault you, didn't fire at you,
but it's sort of like, oh, I see weapon,
I'm about to fire at you.
I mean, and again, because here's the deal.
The officers say, oh, he had a couple of felony warrants.
You know who he is.
You know who he is.
Yeah.
Roland, it's one of the most cowardly things you can do
to fire at a defenseless man running away from you.
But it's almost like a cliche,
the police shooting black men in the back.
When you think of Stephon Clark in Sacramento, California,
in his grandmother's backyard,
when you think of Laquan McDonald in Chicago running away
and all 14 of those police officers lied
and questions about Rahm Emanuel, what he knew,
when you think about Terrence
Crutcher and Tulsa, Oklahoma, walking away with his hands up slowly, hands up, don't shoot on
video. And the white police woman, Betty Crutcher shot him in the back. And then you think about
Jacob Blake Jr. in Kenosha running away from him. The guy grabbed his shirt, shoots him seven times, point blank range.
And as Monique and I were talking about it, and then we look at Joshua Feast.
And as Monique broke down to me so eloquently, you know, she's one of your panelists.
Monique Pressley is brilliant.
And I know this is your hometown, so it's really personal to you and her. But it is this whole notion of them lying about it or
tempting to lie about it. The sheriff said his investigators said that Joshua Feast pointed the
gun at him and was coming towards him. And now they had to walk that back. And now they're just
trying to say, oh, well, he pulled a gun on me. But I believe once the
witness accounts are documented,
they're going to have to walk that back because there were a lot
of witnesses out there. And they say
Joshua Feast never
ever pointed any weapon
at this police officer. He did
what most black people do when the police
confront them. You try to get away from
the police.
But that's it. But but it's the line.
It's the line. It's this to me sounds just like Laquan McDonald. When they lie, the cop said,
oh, Laquan McDonald was charging at the cop. And then the videotape that Rahm Emanuel
tried to suppress until it was released showed exactly what happened.
He was not coming
forward. It was a flat-out
lie. And this is what I also keep
saying. When these cops
lie in
these statements, that should be
automatic termination.
Exactly, Roland. And
I don't even understand how this
particular officer, Officer Jose Santos, even has a job now.
Because when you look at what he did in 2013 to unarmed black man Reginald Davis, how they kicked him and stomped him and hit him and put his head underwater in Galveston, Texas, when he was with the Galveston Police Department. It begs the question,
but it leads us to a larger
conversation, Roland Martin, and this
is the, you're the perfect person
to have this conversation
with your political acumen.
The fact that
Vice President Kamala Harris
and President Joe Biden are talking
about the need to have this national
police registry of misconduct
so they can't brutalize our people at one department and then be allowed to resign
and then go to the next county and get another job at another police department
and then the brutality escalates to murder.
We saw that with Tamir Rice, 12 years old in Cleveland,
when that officer had been forced to resign.
And then six months later, the Cleveland Police Department hires him,
and then less than two weeks, he shoots that 12-year-old baby on the playground by himself
in less than 1.7 seconds when he pulls up. Well, Officer Santos,
his propensity to use excessive force against black people
led to Joshua Feast's death.
And Joshua Feast should be here this Christmas
with his three-year-old son, Joshua Jr.,
and his five-year-old daughter, Aaliyah.
But yet, because this officer was allowed to keep his badge
and gun after his conduct had been condoned, and it was heinous how they beat that brother
up in 2013, but yet we see what happens when you don't condemn that behavior.
It leads to our children being killed.
Looks like we're having some difficulty reaching Lakeisha Feast, so hopefully we'll be able to get her
on the show tomorrow. Ben, we certainly appreciate you
joining us, sharing this information with us. It's a story that we
certainly are going to continue to cover.
And again, to your point, George Floyd was murdered Memorial Day in May of 2020.
And we continue to see these actions take place by police departments,
which shows you why you need the George Floyd Justice Act on the federal level,
which shows you why you need to deal with qualified immunity,
which shows you why you need to have counties and cities also changing policies.
This battle, people can get mad with the slogan of defund the police,
but as you said, 95 people, 95, 95 families, 95 African Americans
have
since George Floyd's death
repeat that again Ben
for people I want it to sink in
especially for the people who talk about
defund the police
the number 95
since May 25th
2020 practically June
within a six-month time span, 95 African Americans have been killed by the police.
During a pandemic, Roland Martin, during the time we are all supposed to have shut down in America except racism and discrimination as it
relates to black people having confrontations with police. And that's what the issue is.
And that's why we have to have the Biden administration address this matter in their
first 100 days. We cannot wait on this because look how many children we lost in just these last 150 days.
Absolutely sad.
Ben Crump, we still appreciate it.
Thank you so very much for joining us, sir.
Thank you, Roland.
Mustafa, to the point Ben made, again, people, all this brouhaha over the phrase defund the police.
Ninety five black people dead at the hands of cops since George Floyd was murdered less than six months ago.
Yeah, many of these are executions. I don't think there's any other way to say it but
then just to call out that they are executions. They are continuing to happen in our sacrifice
zones and these killing fields across our country where extreme violence is the way that the police
deal with our communities. And we have to continue to push back against this.
We got to make sure that there's a Department of Justice that actually is going to hold these
police departments accountable when these types of acts happen. And as Ben said, we need to stop
just moving police officers, bad police officers around to different police departments when they
get in trouble or they get
let go by one of them. And that's the only way this dynamic is ever going to change. We've got
to make sure no longer having folks who should not be officers being officers. And two, we got to
stop dehumanizing and allowing these areas, these black and brown communities to be killing fields.
This is why, Julian, when we talk about how do you impact systemic change?
Actually, I'll go to Avis.
This is why, Avis, we cannot pull back.
This is why it has to be constant, sustained pressure and advocacy because this system
has shown itself that it'll tolerate a few protests.
It'll tolerate a few months of upheaval.
But the intensity of the protests in the aftermath of the George Floyd death
should be the same or greater in December as it was in May.
Yeah, it's just disturbing to see this continuation.
And I would argue that, to me, the focus the focus is beyond demilitarizing the police, because what you are seeing right here is a culture that sees the people that they are sworn to protect and defend is actually the enemy.
They are treating black people as if we are an enemy and their whole job is to run up on us and kill us.
Like it's a killing field, like it is a wartime situation.
So to me, that is a focus not just on the armament that police departments have, but also on the mentality that is rampant through their culture. I'd also say that this specifically, to me, once again, shows how important these Georgia elections are.
We just cannot reiterate that enough in terms of taking control of the Senate,
because we saw that there was, in fact, a Justice in Policing Act that had passed the House that Mitch McConnell recently appealed, that within that law, one of the many things that it had included was specifically a provision to create an
accounting, a role, a database of police officers who had
engaged in violent activities in one jurisdiction so that that
would preclude them from going to another jurisdiction and
getting rehired, exactly the situation that happened here. And the reason why that is not law is because we had a
Republican controlling the Senate and a Republican in the White House. Listen, having a Biden-Harris
administration with a Democratic House but still a Republican Senate is not going to be enough
to create the type of massive change that we need in terms of
legislation that would prevent things like this from happening in the future.
All right, folks, got to go to break. We come back. We're going to talk about
the Georgia Senate runoff race where black pastors are making it clear to Kelly Loeffler,
back up when it comes to your attacks on the black church.
We'll also talk about a Boston cop caught on body camera footage admitting and laughing about running over protesters.
That's next.
Roland Martin, Unfiltered, broadcasting live from Atlanta, Georgia.
We'll be back in a moment.
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I'm done with trying to convince people
to try to vote for their, you know, for their life.
You have to run for your life.
I'm gonna go try to get people who are open to it
and lead them.
I'm done with hope.
Fuck hope. Fight it.
Daring to demand the right to vote for black Americans in Selma, Alabama, 55 years ago,
John Lewis was nearly killed as he and hundreds marched across this bridge.
That movement's courage secured the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act,
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and a new Voting Rights Act to ensure equal justice for all,
no matter the color of our skin,
to end racial profiling and police brutality,
and to stop anyone from suppressing
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He instilled in me the conviction to fight for justice.
He said to never give in,
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Too many people struggled, suffered, and died to make it possible for every American to exercise
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Get the tree.
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Hang the lights.
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But this year, there's one extra thing to do.
Vote. That's right.
Early voting starts December 14th,
so make voting part of your holiday plans.
It'll probably take you less time
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We learned early in Sunday school
that thou shall not steal,
thou shall not bear false witness,
thou shall not have no other gods before me.
Raphael Warnock's opponent seems to have forgotten these basic Sunday school lessons.
Her gods have agreed her lies about Pastor Warnock.
And her shady Wall Street practices are evidence of this. And on January the 5th, let's bear witness that greed, lies, and shady dealings don't represent Georgia.
Let's send Raphael Warnock to the U.S. Senate to fight for the least of these and not Wall Street billionaires.
You are leading the way for the rest of this state.
And we believe that this state is on the verge of shocking the entire country. What y'all know about that damn office?
Ultimately, we know we can't let nobody turn us around.
In spite of all that you have endured this year alone,
this is still the good life city? Yeah!
If it turns out that the Senate is hinging on one seat and there's only one race left.
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And that's because music has a way of speaking for the spirit.
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That is what's going to transform America.
An open letter published on Saturday,
dozens of black church leaders from Georgia ordered or demanded that Senator Kelly Loeffler to cease and desist her false characterizations of Reverend Dr. Raphael Warnock.
The various pastors, the ministerial alliance, believe Loeffler's claims that Warnock is radical and the socialists are baseless in a broader attack against the black church and Warnock's faith. Loeffler called Warnock a radical liberal 13 times during their debate on December 6th and has criticized the pastor and asked for his association with Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright.
Now, Loeffler responded to the letter and Warnock on Twitter by saying, quote,
no one attacked the black church.
We simply exposed your record and your own words.
Joining us right now
is reverend daryl winston of daryl winston ministries and bishop carl mccray of x um uh
i'm sorry exousia the lighthouse international christian ministries is that correct you want to
get i think i pronounced it right that's good all right then first of all let me start with you um
reverend winston uh this letter uh very strong language, highly critical of Kelly Loeffler.
Also by saying, ripping her for her comments about Black Lives Matter, saying she's been quiet about the Proud Boys.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. taken a page from Trumpism, where they think that they could say anything to spew lies and deceit,
and thinking that we should just take it lying down. And we're saying to her, in no uncertain
turn, as my grandmother and the elders used to say, growing up up you're a lie and the truth is not in you
the thing that we're seeing Bishop McRae again Republicans love to talk about faith they appeal
to white conservative evangelicals they said that folks should not question the faith of Amy Coney
Barrett when she was nominated the Supreme Court yet they have no not question the faith of Amy Coney Barrett when she was nominated to the Supreme Court, yet they have no problem questioning the faith of Pastor Raphael Warnock.
That is exactly what they said, Brother Roland.
They, the cognitive dissonance in that lot, and I do want to say all of them, is amazing to me,
that they can stand in judgment and parse every word uttered by this pastor
even 15, 20 years ago, and then to, in her own voice, If anyone were to question the spiritual bona fides of Amy Coney Barrett, she called it disgusting.
And yet she turns around and robotically, repeatedly attacks Reverend Warnock and expects us to let that go unanswered. I don't know what planet she's existed in,
but the time has come where we will push back at full-throated at the lies that they hurled
and expect them to somehow manifest as true. We know scripture. We know our relationship with God. We know
the prophetic tradition of Jesus Christ.
And we understand that
they have co-opted Christianity,
but we've taken it back.
We've taken it back.
The thing
that's also interesting here,
Reverend Winston,
the thing that's very interesting here
when we look at what is going on
in this race,
the fact that Kelly Loeffler,
one of her first appearances
after she replaced Johnny Isakson,
was going to
Ebenezer Baptist Church
for MLK Day celebration.
And it's like,
so you thought it was so radical, yet you showed up.
And I was there.
She was glad to be in the number.
Or she acted as if she was just glad to be in the mix.
And in fact, she spoke and she was very gracious.
And she even remarked that she looked forward to coming back again.
And so we know then that they are taking this bread and butter play from the late Lee Atwater, who got his from Nixon, the whole Nixonian playbook, to stroke the fear in their voting bloc.
This fear mongering, sheer racism. But we detest the mockery. And
to make mockery, we know that they, the Euro-American churches and white evangelicals, have long
expressed their disdain for the African-American congregations and despise and prophetic preaching.
I told them this morning, we forget that when Dr. King spoke out against
the Vietnam War at Riverside in 1967, he was persona non grata. And then now all of them
claim to love Dr. King and seek to hijack his message. They talk about the 63 Dr. King,
but they don't want to deal with that 67 and 68 Dr. King that called for the redistribution of
wealth. And so we're saying, because you got people in our community who are ahistorical, they don't have a sense of historical continuity.
They don't see anything wrong.
And so we're so grateful that these over 100 interfaith clergy decided to join us and more are saying, add up to the election, we have a multi-tier approach where we're
going to be pushing back because we know then that they, meaning the powers that be and
those who bow at the shrine of Trumpism, will say anything or try to get away with saying
anything and think that we're supposed to accept it. Well, one of the things that also jumps out at me on this is that she's attacked him saying
he's anti-Israel.
Yet there have been a number of Jewish leaders who come out and support a Rav Yovarnak.
You've got John Ossoff, who is Jewish, who's running with him.
So you would think if somebody was so anti-Jewish, they would not be supporting him.
But again, what people need to understand, when white conservatives talk, say he's anti-Jewish,
they really are appealing to those white conservative evangelicals who hold this very lofty view, this biblical view of Israel?
They equate Zionism, Judaism, and many rabbis here in Atlanta and abroad are working now on a piece
where they are addressing the Jewish community, a long history with the African American church.
One of my favorite, Rabbi Joshua Heschel,
who Dr. King marched with, and other rabbis were right there in the midst. So Ebenezer and Warnock has maintained a long history of working in the Jewish community. The services are often
interfaith in terms of the commemorative services that the King Center runs there. But there are
many different, for instances,
Warnock's and the good people of Ebenezer
interfacing and interacting with the Jewish community.
And as you know, as of late,
there has been this whole push toward silencing
and muzzling prophetic preaching
that of course is concerned,
not just with redemption from personal sins,
but addressing as Jesus did, those oppressive conditions caused by man.
So we ought to be able to say all Palestinian lives matter.
That's preachers of the gospel.
Cuban lives matters and lives in the Congo matters.
For them to seek to check the preacher is an attempt to do what they hadn't been done,
wasn't able to do in times past, but they think that they can now push us into a corner where we
just sit down and preach an otherworldly, by-and-by-when-we-die message so that we can
become enablers of systemic evil that they perpetuate on a daily basis.
Well, I certainly hope that folks in Georgia are going to respond in kind to what is happening by turning out at the polls. The best way to shut them up is to beat them. Simple as that.
Gentlemen, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
Well, thank you, Roland, for having us. Love your show. And we appreciate you opening up your platform for us to share.
I appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
All right, folks, here in the United States, more than 17.9 million people have contracted COVID and more than 318,000 Americans have died from the virus.
Many people who are skeptical when it comes to getting the vaccine, however.
Uh, first of all,
people are scuttled to getting it,
but the head of the head of doctors
COVID-19 Consortium decided
to take the vaccination.
Many people are skeptical about whether
the COVID vaccine is safe to take.
President elect Joe Biden today
received his first dose of the Pfizer
and BioNTech COVID vaccine live on television.
Did he get to pick his band-aid?
Oh, that's not a problem.
You got it right.
You all right?
I'm ready.
Okay.
Got an uptire?
I'll take it. I'll take it. All right.
Thank you.
Would you like me to come to the table?
No, no, you just go ahead anytime you're ready. It's worth saying that this is great hope.
I'm doing this to demonstrate that people should be prepared when it's available to
take the vaccine.
There's nothing to worry about.
I'm looking forward to the second shot.
So is Jill.
She's had her shot earlier today.
She loves shots, I know. In the meantime, I know I don't want to sound like a sour note here, but I hope people listen to all the experts from the Dr. Fauci's on.
Talking about the need to wear masks during this Christmas and New Year's holidays.
Wear masks, socially distance,
and if you don't have to travel, don't travel.
Don't travel.
It's really important because we're still
on the thick of this.
It's one thing to have the vaccine show up at a hospital.
It's another thing to get the vaccine from that vial
into a needle, into an arm arm and there's millions of people
out there that are going to need this
oh mustafa we saw there where uh president-elect joe biden uh taking the shot uh look you ain't
gonna see donald trump sitting his ass down taking a shot, even though he actually contracted coronavirus, because he doesn't care about actually leading by example.
What he chose to do is to be stuck on stupid.
You've had these White House Christmas parties packed with people.
And guess what?
There have been people coming home, testing positive for COVID-19.
You've got to be dumb as hell to go to the White House for anything with COVID, with that place being a major spreader of COVID-19.
Well, we should just call out the fact that the White House is a Petri dish.
If you go in there, you know you're probably going to end up getting something that is not going to be helpful to your body.
I really appreciate President-elect Biden for his leadership, you know, not just sharing words with folks, but actually putting that together with the actions, you know, sitting down, having a mask on, getting the vaccine, and then continuing the conversation with the country that it doesn't stop there, that we still have actions that we can do to help us to deal with the pandemic that we find ourselves in by not traveling,
by doing the social distancing and the other things that CDC and others have shared with us
will help us to win on the pandemic.
Julianne, it's not that actually hard to lead, but you kind of got to want to. And what we have here is a petulant child who is so
angry and upset that he lost, that he just simply can't help himself, just whine and complain.
And that's what we're seeing from Donald Trump. And frankly, according to White House aides,
with various reports, he's just said, what the hell? He doesn't care about coronavirus,
doesn't care about the response
he's just mad and ticked off
and is sitting here just on Twitter
because he lost
that's what
he's literally acting like a spoiled
brat
actually Roland
you are giving spoiled brats
a bad name
this man is a 70-some-year-old overweight child
who if you could just picture him lay on his back
with his feet kicking because he lost.
But that's not the point here when we have 315,000 Americans
who have died, perished because of coronavirus.
When he continues to have rallies, to have parties or to have his people have parties to do all of that.
It's an absurdity that we cannot fathom because really what he essentially seems to be trying to do is to basically salt the earth
so that when President-elect Biden comes in, he has an even greater burden to deal with.
Even more than that, we know that there are so many irregularities.
How are you going to go to the Supreme Court at the last minute,
ask them to turn the election over when they already said they weren't going to do it?
Here's why. So you can raise money. So we've got this guy who is acting like the last of the living
boneheads, and that's the nicest word I can use on the air, last living boneheads, basically undermining our democracy.
We have, this is a pandemic that is killing people. And many of us have had to moderate
our behavior. My mama is 92 years old. She's had a stroke. I want to go home more than I want to do
anything else, Roland.
But I can't.
First of all, my sisters told me to keep your black you-know-what in Washington because I'm over 65 and I'm diabetic.
But secondly, all of us have had to make these kind of adjustments in our lives.
And meanwhile, this man is sitting there acting like a you-know-what.
It's absurd. It's ridiculous.
But the worst part of this is that his Republican colleagues will not call him on it.
A few of them have, but not many have.
And so America is taking the hit.
All of us are taking the hit.
And he is not responsible, nor are his colleagues.
And the thing, Avis, that continues to be just stunning
is that, you know, these MAGA, I call them maggots,
these MAGA idiots are so deranged
that they are just beside themselves
when it comes to wearing masks.
I mean, it's like, how dare you?
I mean, when you see them just,
in fact, watch this here.
This is some video on my iPad.
This is a video on my iPad, okay?
That y'all, this fool
laid down.
This fool laid down in the middle of
the store on the floor.
He laid down. I'm just, we're going to
try to get the video straight for you in just a second.
We have a slight technical issue here.
But he is so mad and upset.
He is so mad and upset, he was asked to wear a mask.
He lays down on the middle of the floor.
That's a grown-ass man, Avis.
You know, it is cult-like behavior.
I think you really should
examine this.
You have
cult-like behavior
on individuals
that have been brainwashed
by the propagandists
in chief. And
they have been brainwashed to the degree
that they will believe anything that
he says, even if it puts them in mortal danger, even if it puts their family in mortal danger.
This is literally the equivalent of drinking the Kool-Aid, you know, in real time. They are
willing to risk their lives, their families' lives. and by the way, our lives, and we have to interact in public with them, because they are so blindly loyal to a pathological,
lying, narcissistic psychopath.
It is absolutely crazy.
And, you know, if there was, you know, at what point, I mean, at this point, I guess
we're almost done with it, but I have to tell you, I'm beginning to wonder why we even have the 25th Amendment, because this man is a clear and present danger to the citizens of the United States.
You can look at it from the heads of soldiers and doing nothing about it all the way up to having Russians
infiltrate all of our major federal agencies and having nothing to say about that either.
He's clearly a plant and he's clearly someone who is spreading lethal misinformation to literally
millions of people. I've got to show you one more video, one more video. I'm going to play the audio on this one as well.
And again, the sheer stupidity of these people wearing a mask is not hard.
It's not.
But for these people, you swear it's the end of the world.
Watch this.
Listen. But for these people you swear it's the end of the world watch this listen That is not a law step away back the fuck up from me why are you supposed to
Why are you supposed to leave the store now
What are you gonna do
This is all for you people Why are you so- Leave the store now! Why? What are you gonna do? Why? Why?
This is all for you people. Out.
Why?
Because you no longer belong here.
What? You do not belong in this store.
What do you mean?
Why? Step away from me.
Step away from me.
It's a regulation.
This is a public establishment.
I am a customer.
You're privately owned?
Really?
So, okay.
Suck a fucking dick.
Suck a fucking dick.
Merry Christmas, man.
I'm out.
Merry fucking Christmas, everybody.
This is a public establishment.
I have a fucking right to be here.
We don't.
That's a dude.
I don't.
I mean, look.
I say just drag their asses out the store.
You know what?
I say get like a 10-foot pole and just poke their ass.
Get out.
Get out.
Just poke their ass. Get out. Get out. Just poke their ass.
And put some hot, you know, put some hot,
put that sucker in a fire and brand their ass.
I mean, this is just dumb.
And, oh, it's freedom.
It's a public place.
318,000 people are dead. And these people, you're just infringing on my liberties.
I'm an American.
And it's led Mustafa by the person sitting in the Oval Office
because he refuses to wear a mask.
He refuses to abide by any rules
and they are emboldened by his stupidity.
And so I'm of the opinion,
hey, if y'all want to follow his dumb ass
and y'all get COVID and die,
go right ahead.
Yeah, that would be all right
if we couldn't actually get COVID.
But as Ava said, shared, you know, there is an interconnectedness by the actions that people did.
You know, it's interesting that when you had the gentleman laying on the floor and then you had the other person, you know, using that language and actually trespassing after he was asked to leave that folks, you know, weren't getting arrested. I've seen folks lay down to stop trucks from coming into their community
because they're afraid of getting poisoned.
And I've seen young black and brown children be in a department store
because, you know, they may have had a moment, you know,
people talking about what they needed to be arrested,
but yet these folks are not being arrested.
So we need to actually call that out.
And then we need to also just remind folks that we had the opportunity to impeach Trump and folks
decided not to move forward on that and make that become a reality. And if so, look how different
this COVID-19 moment would have been, hopefully, that he would have not been in leadership and so many lives would not have been lost.
Well, that is certainly the case.
Alright, folks. Gotta go to a break
when we come back. We're going to talk about
Trump supporters targeting a
black family in Texas. Also,
Morris Day
joins us right here
on Roland Martin on Filter to talk music
and his book, All of That Next, broadcasting live from Atlanta
where we are covering the Georgia Senate runoff here in the Peach State.
Back in a moment.
You wouldn't have so many people trying so hard to stop you from voting.
There is some value there. But even when you talk about that people are not paying attention to your issues,
I can't pay attention to your issues if I don't even know you there.
And the only reason people are going to know you there
is when you show up to the polls and vote.
That's when that power manifests itself.
But as long as you stay at home, as long as you're making excuses,
then guess what?
You will always experience these issues that we're experiencing today. And another thing, don't get caught up in the candidates, right? There's no such thing as
a perfect candidate, but you should be going to vote for the most important person, and that is
you and the one you love. You talk about you'll fight for the one you love. You're willing to
die for the one you love. You need to ask yourself, are you willing to vote for the one you love, you're willing to die for the one you love, you need to ask yourself, are you willing to vote for the one you love?
Because if you don't, there's gonna be somebody's neck
on yours pretty soon.
There are a lot of folks out here
who don't want you to vote.
And they're doing everything to keep you from voting
because they don't want you to have power.
They don't want you to have the money. They don't want you to have the money.
They don't want you to have the resources
to have a decent quality of life.
And those are some of the people who are living
in the best styles with the most money in this country.
So if you don't want to have them continue
to tell you what you can't have,
you better get out here and vote. Georgia, you're not just voting for you.
No, you're voting for me too
Georgia, I got you on my mind
You have got a chance today
To keep the U.N. U.S.A.
Oh, Georgia, say can you see
You could save my democracy
Oh, Georgia, you're not just voting for you, no, you're voting for me too.
Georgia, you're not just voting for you, no, you're voting for me too.
I know you've got to be tired of washing hands and wearing masks, but you could save the planet's ass.
Oh, Georgia, we're all waiting to see if you've left the Confederacy.
Well, welcome to the 21st century.
Now you're voting for me too. You could sit around and mope and say,
Oh, what's the difference?
Or you could just get out and vote.
Just two senators in blue.
Georgia, you know what to do.
Georgia, you're not just voting for you.
No, you're voting for me too. No, Georgia,
put love back in the world. Who better than a fine southern yes you're voting for me too make january 5th
a belated christmas gift georg, you know what to do, Georgia.
In Dallas, a black family believes they were the target of a hate crime after putting up a Black Lives Matter sign in front of their home.
Jalen Gibson and Charles Crawford say they woke up to one of the cars engulfed in flames and the message Trump 20 spray painted on their garage.
Their BLM sign was also vandalized.
The Little Elm Police Department and federal authorities are investigating to see whether
this was indeed a hate crime.
All right, folks, one of America's greatest racists will no longer be honored in the U.S.
Capitol.
Virginia Governor Ralph Northam announced that Virginia's statue of Confederate General
Robert E. Lee was removed overnight from the United States Capitol.
The Confederate statue will be moved to the Virginia Museum of History and Culture in
Richmond and will be replaced with a statue of civil rights icon Barbara Rose Johns.
Johns was a historical figure who fought school segregation in 1951 when she was only 16 years
old.
She led a walkout protesting inferior conditions at Robert Russa Motion High School, which
was an all-black school in Farmville,
Virginia. This is the video. This is the folks. Let me know if y'all have the video.
The video that was shot, Tim Cain. Go ahead and pull the audio up, please.
So what you're seeing, folks, those are workers removing. Of course, this has long been a point of contention that in the U.S. Capitol, their statuary hall,
and in statuary hall, Avis, each state gets to have two statues.
And folks have long been critical of states that have honored Confederate heroes in Florida.
They replaced one of those statues with Mary McLeod Bethune.
Other states, Tennessee, Mississippi.
So there are different states there.
And the states get to choose what statue represents them.
And so for a lot of African-Americans, you're Mississippi.
You don't want to go to the state capitol. And one of your two states, one of your two statuary statues is a traitor, Jeff Davis in Virginia.
They had Robert E. Lee, who wasn't even from Virginia.
And so this to me, this this change when Democrats took control of the state legislature. That, again, shows the power of voting.
When you put the folks you want in office who can make these sort of changes,
and I know somebody will say, oh, this is just all cosmetic,
but the reality is we should not be honoring people in this country
who wanted to ensure that people who look like us would remain in slavery.
Absolutely.
And I would have to say, you know, symbols matter.
If symbols didn't matter, there would not be a proliferation of Confederate monuments all across this country.
They were erected for a reason, to perpetuate a false sort of retelling of history that lionized these people who were actually
traitors and racist people who wanted to keep people like you and me in bondage for all of
our lives. So it's very important that even today, with all the various challenges that we continue
to face, that we also go back and right the wrong of exalting these individuals who are enemies,
not only to this nation, but enemies to this people. And I would just have to quickly say,
in terms of Governor Northam, he got into some hot water a few months back with regards to pictures
that emerged of him and his youth. But I have to say, since then, he has definitely been moving forward in a direction that I have been, you know, pleasantly surprised with.
And this is just one another example of work that I'm happy that was done because it's no reason why we should have a Robert E. Lee in the nation's in the Capitol building in any way, shape or form connected to the state of Virginia or this nation as a whole.
When we talk about looking back on history and acknowledging a racist past, that's what the Kansas City Star did.
They are apologizing for decades of racist coverage of African-Americans in Kansas City, Missouri.
Mike Fannin, who has been the Kansas City Star's editor since 2008, wrote in a letter to readers, the newspaper, quote, disenfranchised, ignored, and scorned
generations of black Kansasians. It reinforced Jim Crow laws and redlining. Reporters took a
look through the newspaper's archives and found the paper usually painted black people as
perpetrators and rarely covered issues that black people faced for instance the paper covered military actions overseas but not the bombings of black families that took place not
far from the paper's location family said the death of george floyd earlier this year and the
protests that took place around the world made the paper examine its history and how it covers issues plaguing the black community. That, Julian, is important because it forces institutions to reckon with their past
and then for them to say, how does our past still impact our present and future?
When you look at the lack of African-Americans in these newsrooms,
many black folks, the sole journalist
in a lot of these places. And so that was a great thing the Kansas City newspaper did over the
weekend. It was a wonderful thing for them to do, but they have to do a lot more. They have to go
back and not only give the macro, but also the micro. In other words, to take Tulsa, Oklahoma as an opportunity to look at this,
we know that the newspapers buried the story about the burning of Black Wall Street.
They made it sound like Black people had done something when, in fact, we know more than 300
people died. We know that white folks went and ravaged the black community.
I mean, it was called the Tulsa up, you know, whatever they called it.
It was inaccurate. We can go back through many, many, many.
So I'm going to give Casey props for raising it.
But what I would really like to see for them also to do is to go back and look at some of these stories and just really give
us the details on them.
When we look at a Robert E. Lee as an example and taking that statue down, a lot of people
are going to say it's symbolism.
It's not just symbolism.
This man graduated from West Point, which was a U.S.-funded military academy. He then turned tail on his country because he cared more about southern white people than about our nation.
The nation wasn't perfect, let's be clear, but he chose to turn tail on our country.
So this is a time of reckoning in so many ways, and it's an important time of
reckoning. We want to give people credit who are doing the right thing, but we also want them to
understand that one step is not the long step. So someone at the Casey paper has to really go back
into those archives and talk more about this. Someone in Tulsa has to
talk about what those newspapers did. And it's not just the South. I mean, I've been, you know,
I've been working on this book forever, but we look at California, my home state, which had laws
on their books against, quote, miscegenation. Liberal California, we need to look at some of that.
There's just so much work to do, but we have to do it.
If we don't do it, we'll never have peace.
The reason I think this is critically important, Mustafa,
is because the media played such a huge role in the advancement of white supremacy in this country.
The media played a huge role in the denigration of black people.
It played a huge role in how we were portrayed, how we were ignored.
And frankly, part of the problem today is that present day media outlets want to live in
complete ignorance of that.
I'm vice president of digital, national association of black journalists.
And we went after CNN for no black executive producers, no black vice presidents, no black
senior vice presidents, no black executive vice presidents, no black direct reports.
That was a reason because it made no sense how we could be in 2019.
And there literally be no black people in leadership positions.
And so I think media has gotten off too lightly over the years.
I think media all too often has skirted its responsibility and acted as if, oh, how we can, and this
is my challenge, and we've had meetings with Verizon Media, with Disney, with Penske Media,
with a number of people, CBS, NBC, and what we've said is how can media challenge other folk on race and hiring
and their culture when they don't want to look at themselves? And the Kansas City Star,
with this report, look at themselves. Now, what I would hope is they now go inward and say,
let's examine the culture of our newsrooms and how African-Americans stand.
We don't have much time for us, so let's go to Avis.
Avis, pick up on that point.
Yeah, it is absolutely essential that organizations have black people in positions of power,
positions of decision-making, that we are part of not only those who report the news,
we are part of those who decide what news to report. And it's absolutely critical that that
is true in every way, shape, or form, whether that's television, whether that's newspapers,
every type of media platform that exists, there needs to be black decision makers.
That said, it's also the fact that there isn't to any significant degree,
once again, shows how important true black owned media is. Because we have to understand that when
you sit down down at home and
you turn on the television and you watch a certain show or you pick up a newspaper or go to the
newspaper's website these days and read that story, you have to think, who made the decision about
what was going to be covered and what wasn't going to be covered? Who made the decisions about who
was going to be booked and who wasn't going to be booked? Who made the decision about what sort of opinion pieces were going to be given the green light and what sort of opinion pieces were going to be kicked to the curve or what stories were going to be pursued and what stories were going to be ignored?
You know, that colors, no pun intended, the information that you receive on a daily basis. And because those types of organizations tend to not have people that look like you and me
in those decision-making positions, what we get are a very tilted and very specific view
of reality. And so having Black-owned media that shows our interests, that centers our needs, that
puts on experts that are versed in how issues impact our lives, it's critically
important. It's not really happening to a great degree in normalcy in quote-unquote mainstream
media and some of these other places. And so we have to be able to do that ourselves. And luckily,
we are in the position, particularly, for example, with a show like this, in which we can.
Well, that's precisely why we have it, because we are not about allowing somebody else to tell our story.
Speaking of telling our story, this is an unbelievable story out of, well, first of all, for us, it's not unbelievable.
That's also why we have these cameras to listen and see and hear what folk are talking about. Of course, this year we saw protests erupt nationwide after the death of George Floyd,
Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, and others.
Yet in Boston, something peculiar happened in Boston.
Check out this video of a police officer.
You can hear him bragging about running over protesters. Let's get this fucker.
Let's get him.
Let's get him.
Lock him up.
Move back.
Move back.
Move back.
Move back.
Move back.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop spraying the fuckers. I got a little left.
I want to hit this asshole.
I lose two of these over here. I got a little left. I want to hit this asshole. I need to leave. I don't care.
I lose two of these over here.
I got a little left.
I want to hit this kid.
. I fucking, I drove down, there was an unmarked state police cruise, they were all fucking, fucking worn out. So I overcommitted. So I got to fucking Tremont Park,
and I was in the middle of a fucking...
So then I had to fucking keep coming.
Fucking running.
I'm fucking hitting people with the car.
Did you hear me?
I was like, get the fuck...
What happened?
What happened?
This thing is on. This thing is... Oh, no, no, no, I know. What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened?
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What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? He's like, you gotta be kidding me. Fucking crazy, dude.
This thing just fucking went on automatically. Huh?
This thing just went on fucking automatically.
There you go.
This is your offer.
It's pretty nice.
They're walking around close.
Is it a $50 tie? I'm still out here. Mustafa, if you're a cop and you're bragging about running over protesters,
imagine how it feels when you're patrolling black neighborhoods.
Yeah, people, they're telling you just how they really feel about folks. You know, we need to remember in Charlottesville, when that young man used his automobile and killed someone,
and how easy is it in all that chaos for somebody to slip underneath of the wheel of a car, of a
police car, of a cruiser,
and someone to lose their life.
If you or I do it, vehicular manslaughter is 10 years in jail.
Second-degree vehicular manslaughter is 75 months, $250,000 fine.
It's a real easy way to make sure that that doesn't happen.
One, train your officers.
And two, if they can't live up to it, they don't need to be police officers.
Ronald, I am... And this is just... Go ahead, go ahead.
I went to undergraduate and graduate school in Boston. I was there from 1970 to 1977.
The Boston kind of racism is a special kind of racism. The police have been trained essentially to abuse
Black people. I mean, I will never forget Louise Day Hicks, who was on the school board when they
were trying to integrate schools. And this big old fat white woman said they would have to run over
her dead body before Black children were able to go to white schools in
South Boston. This is Boston. So this is Boston. I'm not saying that Boston is special around its
racism, but what I'm saying is when I watched the tape, I just recalled so many things.
And the bottom line here is that they do not value black people. This is why the slogan, Black Lives Matter,
is so important, because it has not been that important in places like Boston and others.
Black man named Ted Lansdowne had a flag. He was impaled by a flag in front of City Hall
because he was protesting. So white folks just took a flag and impaled him.
And it was okay.
Nobody was ever arrested.
And this happens time and time again.
So I just, you know, we have been, as black people,
extraordinarily tolerant, extraordinarily understanding. And it's time for us to get about 10,000 bin crumps
to soothe the you-know-what out of these
people.
Totally understand. Totally understand.
Gotta go to a break, folks. When we come back,
we'll talk with Mars Day.
Music, books.
That's next on RoboMart Unfiltered.
This generation, which gets so much inspiration from entertainment,
this generation is influenced.
I mean, every generation has their influence.
But I would argue by and large, when you talk about Harry Belafonte
or you talk about how it was in the 60s, 70s, and even 80s,
you had the entertainers, you had
the church, you had the activists. In our day and time, you know, the church is somewhat losing its
influence. Entertainment influence is growing. The activists are losing their influence. So
where do most, you know, this younger generation go? They go to entertainment, you know, and so
the influencers, entertainment can actually move the needle. And when you see people become active,
I love how this younger group of people are saying,
wait a minute, we don't like what just happened with Kavanaugh.
We're going to do something about it.
We don't like the fact that there's no gun control.
We're going to do something about it.
And I do think that as tragic as these events are,
they are becoming more galvanizing
to get this younger group of voters, which
is so influential, to get out and do what we know they can
do, which is to help move the needle in a massive way.
America is a complicated story of people building a more perfect union. And if you don't think
there's been any change, you should sit down with Andrew Young. You should sit down from some of the folks in that generation who know the distance we've come.
And as we continue to push hard, change comes.
The other side knows your power. The other side knows your voice.
That's why they're engaged in voter suppression.
If you weren't so powerful, they wouldn't be trying so hard to stop you from voting. So you ought to stand up in this defining moment
in American history
and win the future for all of our children.
We're at Mom's Kitchen in Preston, Georgia.
It's a family business.
I enjoy making people happy, giving them a good meal.
But since COVID, we had to close our main dining room.
We lost all of that business,
and we used to do a lot of caterings.
We can't do any of that anymore.
David Perdue knew what was about to happen.
He was getting classified briefings about the pandemic,
but instead of him being concerned about us,
he off selling stock.
We had no idea we'd have to close our businesses off.
We'd lose caterings, and so many people died.
And then when we needed help the most,
he fought against the stimulus checks
and to cut unemployment insurance.
Purdue needs to come out and Ossoff in.
Early voting starts December 14th.
You got to make a plan to vote.
I'm John Ossoff, and I approve this message.
We have always used music to speak up for us. But we have been unheard, underestimated, and undervalued throughout our existence.
But it's time we play a new song.
We can make the rules.
We can choose the leader.
And our vote can make the difference.
We know by now that change will not come to us.
Black voters matter.
It's our party.
Step into your moment.
All right, folks.
I was flying to Atlanta this morning, early flight, 7 a.m., and so I needed a little pick-me-up music.
And so I had to put on a whole bunch of different songs and one of the songs of
course jungle love by Morris Day and the time of course Morris Day is known for
his relationship with Prince with the band he's got a new Christmas single
out called cooler than Santa Claus And he joins us right now. Mars Day, what's happening?
What's going on, Roland?
How you doing?
So you cooler than Santa Claus?
Hey, you know it.
I got to ask you Jerome and the time.
Every time I see Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis.
I mean, look, there have been lots of bands, but, man, y'all kept it funky.
We kept it funky, and, you know, we had an all-star band.
I mean, just think about it.
You know, like you said, Terry and Jimmy.
I mean, you know, we were all just teenagers loving our music.
Terry and Jimmy, Jesse Johnson, you know, Jerome.
You know, we just had an all-star band and we just kind of lucked up on it.
I don't know if you want to call it luck or God's plan, but we had one of the greatest bands in history, in my opinion.
Well, I think that is the case. I think a lot of times, and again, as somebody who loves music music as somebody who uh because in fact jimmy
and i was talking about this here he's always sending me sending me cuts he's like man i know
how you love music i mean y'all played instruments this ain't this wasn't a bunch of dudes on stage
with five or six mics and that was the other thing that there's just something different about when that band is jamming and keeping it funky.
Well, not only that, Roland.
We played instruments, but we had songwriters, producers, some of the elite in the industry,
from Prince on down.
And that just takes the whole thing to another level.
Let's talk about that.
I play the George Lopez golf tournament.
And Jimmy Jam is often playing the golf tournament.
And so we're always having a little fun.
I got to find a video.
There's a video of us all on one of the tee boxes doing the bird.
It's pretty hilarious.
And we're always out doing it.
And he was telling us this story about how y'all, your band and Prince, how you drove each other.
And he was saying, he said, man, he said, that was, he said,
there were times, he said, when we were just whooping Prince's ass.
And he said, where y'all had to add to, we going to walk out,
that was sort of like old school.
When you talk back to cats with the OJs and the four tops,
how their whole deal was when they said, okay, fine, we going to open,
we going to set this sucker on fire that all you're going to have are burnt embers when you walk out there.
Was that, was that rivalry?
Was that about, we're going to show you our best and you're going to have to bring it
if you want to sit here and own this audience?
You know, you know, it really didn't start out like that. going to have to bring it if you want to sit here and own his audience.
You know, you know, it really didn't start out like that.
But I guess what happened is we just got that damn good, you know.
And so we you know, we started out.
We hadn't done it before. You know, we hadn't played in front of a large audience before, but we were tight.
And that's one thing that Prince kind of, it turned into a rivalry of sorts, but he created it because he gave us a work ethic.
He had us rehearse so much, day in and day out, that we were so tight that if I went left, if I forgot a lyric and I did something,
the band went with me and we just became such a tight band that, you know, after a while,
you know, he let us know that it was a rivalry because he started to exclude us in major markets.
So if we did an L.A., if he did an L.A. or New York or Chicago, he wouldn't let the time on anymore.
And we got on to it.
We're like, okay, that's because we kicking that ass, you know.
But, you know, it wasn't our intention originally.
We just got that good, you know.
Well, you would think that he would have understood that
because he drove y'all there. It's sort of like, look, for me,
if I've trained somebody, if I've invested in somebody, I want you to reach that point of
maximizing your output. And I've always gotten a kick out of,
you talked about it,
you talked about it in other interviews
and your books as well,
that jealousy, that envy that was there.
You talked about how he would call you
to come to Minneapolis and play
and hell, wouldn't pay.
And so just talk about that relationship.
Was it one of those things where you were like,
okay, what the hell?
Is it hot?
Is it cold?
Is it hot?
Is it cold?
Can you just decide?
Yeah, that's exactly kind of what it was.
But, you know, at the end of the day,
as much as I would have issue with stuff like that, you know, he was still my brother, you know, and I know he felt that way.
But, you know, he was a very complicated individual.
We all are complicated in our own way, but he was extra complicated.
Right.
You know, I just kind of, you know, wrote it off as that.
I never had his phone number once we got to cell phones or and all of that, even landlines.
I never had his number. So if I heard from him, he called me and I might have one of his security people's numbers or something like that.
But, you know, I never really reached out to him uh i just kind of knew that if he wanted to
talk to me he would reach out to me which he did at obscure hours of the uh morning and night you
know and um it was all good you know uh you you you gave an interview uh that i found to be quite fascinating where at the end of his life
he said something
to you when he said
that he loved you.
And it caused you to go
oh, this is different.
And I've
talked to other people and they've talked
about how in those
final few months they literally saw this transformation that something was happening.
And then, of course, when they began to reflect on it after he passed, they saw that that that he that he knew what was coming.
He felt it and he knew what that uh his time was uh was near yeah i think um
i think he knew um because as you said he had you know asked us to do shows we show up i fly my band
in um on my own expense and um then he changes mine and you know really and not even really have a second thought about it.
And so I sort of got to the point where I said, look, if if Prince wants us to do a show, then he has to send us the money 100 percent up front.
I'm not, you know, going in like that anymore, where I just am at.
I'm at his disposal, whether he you know, and out of my pocket.
So anyway, this this last show, two months prior to him passing, I said, yeah, yeah, he wanted us to do a show at Paisley Park.
I said, of course, you know, but, you know, you've got to, you know, not me telling him, but his people, you've got to send the money up front.
And he did, to my surprise.
And so when I got there, he was really happy to see me.
And likewise, I was happy to see him.
And we chopped it up.
We did the show.
And, you know, after the show, you know, he wanted to talk.
So we went into the cafeteria area of Paisley Park.
And we talked for an hour and some you know and plus and um in leaving you know he
gave me a hug and said i loved you and i'm like um you know i've been knowing this man for since
we were kids and that is a phrase that he has never ever uh spoken to me. So I just, I just, you know, it was, it was, it caught me off guard.
And then, you know, once I got back home, I was just thinking, I was like,
what was that? You know? And sure enough, two months later, you know, I was flying to Florida from Las Vegas and I had a layover in Chicago and I heard that someone had passed away at Paisley Park.
And they said that it was an employee. And a buddy of mine called me, said, did you hear the news?
I said, yes, somebody, you know, worked there. And he said, no, no. He said it was Prince.
And my buddy's family is in the media so they had
firsthand information and they didn't it didn't hit me right away but like midnight that night
you know once I got to Florida it hit me like a ton of bricks the history because I really
not had people that close to me pass away. And that really hit me hard.
It was interesting you say that because I saw something the other day on Twitter
and people were talking about how his passing affected them more than any other. And the
reality is, I mean, look, as a journalist, you know, I was in Jamaica when Michael Jackson died. I remember being in Houston
when Whitney Houston died. When I think about a lot of these, his passing actually has had
more of an impact on me than the other celebrity deaths. We were talking about that and people,
folks were asking why.
I mean, I had the occasion to meet him
on a couple occasions to go to a party at his home.
Then I found out, I was interviewing Shelby J.,
and then she told me, she said,
she says, oh, you know Prince had your book,
your Facebook.
And she said, because one day he brought it to me
in the kitchen and said, you need to read this.
Van Jones said, he said, man, you were sworn,
you and Prince were buddies,
because he would often talk about your work.
And I always, of course, loved the music
and being somebody who played in elementary school,
middle school, high school band, always enjoyed music.
But it was something different and unique about him.
And also, to also all the other artists
that were born out of his brilliance.
And when I think about you and think about the time and I think about the videos and I think about, again, the infectious music, all of that, to me, it operates like a bowl of gumboys.
It's all in there together because all of y'all are going to be linked.
Vanity Six is going to be linked.
You're going to have, you Vanity 6 is going to be linked.
You're going to have all the different artists.
Tevin Campbell is going to be linked.
All of these folks
who were sort of the
tentacles of Prince will
always be forever linked.
Very much so.
And you make a good point.
But I like
your gumbo theory.
So in that theory, brother, we were in the room.
You dig?
So, you know, that's how I look at it.
I know there was a lot of spin-offs, but, you know, from day one.
So I get it, the worldly impact that the brother had.
And it was amazing to me to watch because, you know, I've been around him since he was a kid.
So, you know, the worldly impact.
But, you know, my take on the whole thing was a little different.
It was just, you know, not the mega artist that he
ultimately became, but it was my friend. And the early days when we hung out and, you know,
I would get high and he was, you know, pretty straight. But, you know, the times when he said, hey, can you get me something to smoke?
And I just want to try it.
And, you know, I'm sitting on the floor at a club babysitting this dude, you know, and stuff like that.
You know, and the fights that we had and all of that when we had when we were kids is the stuff that really passed through my mind.
Not the songs so much that I loved or anything like that.
So I'm just saying that to say that it was quite different for me than, you know, a fan.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Do people still roll up on you to say, man, you killed it in Purple Rain?
And why, again, why haven't you done other movies?
Okay.
So, yeah, people, I mean, Purple Rain is one of those things that kind of shows up on TV every month, a couple times a month.
And yes, people still talk about Purple Rain to me.
But my thing in acting is, I guess, is something that I'm able to do.
But there's a side of me that I kind of like being my own boss.
In music, I'm the boss.
In film and television,
there's always
somebody telling you what to do.
And,
you know, what time to be there,
what time to get dressed
and hurry up and wait,
do this, stand here, go, you know.
And, you know, that's always been
an issue for me.
Oh, great. Look, look, and you know that's always been an issue for me oh great look look i know that point which is why i created my own digital show uh because i said folks when tv1 ended my show folks are like man it'd be great if you go to msnbc or cnn i'm like
you know what i'm not really trying to ask no 32 year old white producer permission to go cover
black people i said i'm good I'm good. I'm good.
I said, I kind of rather, I'd rather ask myself.
I'd rather ask myself.
So trust me, I understand.
But I just thought, man, you were just absolutely crazy in that movie.
And so I can imagine you doing something else.
I got questions from our panelists.
I want to first start with Mustafa, Santiago Ali.
Mustafa, what's your question for Moore's Day?
Yeah, first of all, thanks. I mean, I watched you when I was growing up, so it's an honor to
be here with you. I'm curious, you know, I come from a social justice background,
and I'm curious the role that you feel creatives, artists have in the social justice movement.
Now, say that one more time.
You hit me.
The role that you believe artists have in the social justice movement.
Well, you know, sometimes, you know, I think there's a fear of alienating certain audiences, if you will. But I do think
that more and more the young artists are playing a role and making a difference and making their thoughts be known.
Julianne, question for Morris Day.
Sure. You have talked about both your collaboration and your competition with Prince,
and I very much enjoyed rolling this conversation and appreciate it. But Morris Day,
what does it say to us as we move forward in this post-whatever era about how we work together as
Black people? Well, I think, you know, there's a lot on the table that we have to deal with. And I think there's a lot of small things that slip through the cracks.
It's funny.
I'm an iPhone user.
And if you go to the emojis, you can change the color of the thumbs and a lot of little things.
But I noticed you can't change the color of the families.
And check that out.
You know, you go there and you cannot change the color of the families.
The families are white.
And usually if you tap it, you can go brown and go to yellow and all of that.
But you can go brown and go to yellow and all of that, but you can't. So I just feel like,
you know, we have, you know, come a long way, but we have a long way to go. And there's a lot
of little innuendos that we have to deal with. And, you know, unfortunately, you know,
that's the job ahead of us.
Avis DeWeaver, your question for Mars Day.
Hi, it is such a pleasure to speak with you, Mr. Day.
I've definitely been a fan of Prince's.
I was in the fourth grade and I've loved the time from the very beginning.
So it's my honor to speak with you this evening.
You alluded to something that I think a lot of people overlook.
People enjoy your music.
They enjoy your contribution to the world in that way.
But I think oftentimes people don't get the work that it takes to be as successful as you are in that industry.
You just don't pop up one day and be as prolific a musician as you are.
A minute ago, you talked about how, you know, you practice so much until you just, in essence, couldn't get it wrong.
What can people who are not musicians learn from musicians about operating at excellence,
given the work ethic that it takes to perform at the level that you do?
Well, I think you pretty much explained it.
It's whatever you do.
You have to strive to be the best. If you strive to be mediocre, then that's what you'll do. If
you don't really care about it, you know, I mean, how many times do you walk into a store and you have a clerk who helps you or someone
on the phone, a customer service, and they help you 100 percent, do everything, ask all
the right questions, and then how many times you walk into that same place a different
day and somebody just acts like they don't want to be there. I just feel like if you're going to fill a position in life,
then I would say be the best at it.
You know, I might not be the best artist, best singer, best dancer,
but you can damn well believe I am the best Morris Day
that you're going to ever find, you know.
So that's my advice.
All right, then.
Morris, this song, Cooler Than Santa Claus, what inspired it?
I mean, look, it was a matter of saying, look,
there's a lot of Christmas songs out there,
but damn it, you want it to be original as opposed to do a remake?
No, Roland, you inspired it.
You know what?
I feel like this is a shout-out to the brothers,
to the men, to the parents, to the fathers.
You know, it's like everybody...
I don't want to kill the myth of Santa Claus,
but we all know who Santa Claus is to our wives, to our kids.
So I'm not saying Santa doesn't exist,
but I am saying that if you really check into it, you will see Santa ain't as cool as me. Well, I'm with you 100%
because, I mean, I'm all with, all amiss,
but, yeah, y'all already know who bought that damn computer
and bought that damn Xbox, just letting you know.
And Stan is getting all the damn credit.
Precisely.
Now, uh-uh, Stan Santa don't pay no bills.
Boys Day, man.
It's always a pleasure.
Look forward to after this COVID thing.
I can't wait to connect.
And definitely, man, look forward to coming to one of the shows.
I'm one.
This is a true story. I was at NBA All-Star Game in 2011, and Sean Robinson,
I had gone to a Diddy party. It was crazy. We never got in. It was all just a little drama
outside. Sean Robinson hit me up, and she says, yo, you want to come to a party at Prince's House?
I was like, hell yeah. And it was so funny, too, because my wife, she was like hot with the other
party. She was hungry. She's like, look, I want to get some food.
I'm going to figure it out.
I look at her like, oh, hell no.
We going to this damn party at a friend's house.
I don't give a damn how you feel.
So take this McDonald's.
Put the GPS in.
You can sit your ass in the car.
We going to this party.
I mean, that's what I'm thinking the whole time.
I'm like, I don't give a damn how you feel.
So we going to this party.
Go to the party go to the
party it's all about 30 people there man and it's so funny good look I'm black
you go somebody black house you speak to the person whose house it is well
couldn't find him but then the DJ was guns I was like look I'm a dance okay I
ain't afraid to dance I was swept through a suit in a heartbeat okay and
so man with wood dancing and all of a sudden, Prince
comes, walks up to me, he's like,
you're welcome in my house anytime.
And then, of course, I danced
all night. They, of course, put a concert
on at 2.30 in the morning. We probably left
around 6 a.m. About six months later,
Sinbad said, man, Prince said you
left scuffbox on his dance floor.
So, I'm all about,
look, getting the dance on
so when you put on a show, I'm like, hey,
damn all that trying to be cute, trying to be cool.
You don't want to break out in the sweat.
That's why they got cleaners to take care of that suit.
Because I have a very simple philosophy, Morris.
If I go to a concert or a party and I go home dry,
I'm pissed.
It sucked.
I hear you. If I got to get home and peel that suit off,
that was a party.
Hey, that's how I am. I party,
I'm cool, but I definitely have to
send my suits to the dry cleaner after
I'm done. Now, I want y'all to check out
everything happening at MorrisDayEntertainment.com.
We got a new single, Head Rush, featuring Trinidad James.
Video about to drop.
Check it out, y'all.
All right, then.
Well, look, we will do that.
We will certainly check it out, man.
We certainly appreciate it.
Good luck in all that you do.
Again, y'all his christmas song is
cooler than santa claus i'll be listening to it as soon as i get done with the show
march day thanks a bunch brother thank you so much roach all right folks uh that's it for us
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