#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Why Bernie's not winning Black votes; Biden's clash over gun rights; Coronavirus hits NY suburb
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This is an iHeart Podcast. Să facem o pătrunjelă. E aí Thank you. Să facem o pătrunjelă. Martin! Hey, folks, today is March 10th, Tuesday, March 10th, 2020,
coming up on Roller Mark Unfiltered.
It is primary day in six states, including Mississippi and Michigan.
Could Bernie Sanders and his campaign really be in trouble after tonight?
We'll break it down.
Speaking of Senator Bernie
Sanders, they're doing their best to reboot their campaign and reaching out to black voters. Is it
too little too late? We'll also talk to a writer with Politico, Christopher Towler, on why the
presidential candidate is still struggling to win the black vote. Joe Biden, he got tough with a
white guy today. An auto worker cussed him out over the Second Amendment.
I had no problem with it.
No issues whatsoever.
Also, New York City calls in the National Guard over the coronavirus fears.
And up to 70 people impacted in Massachusetts.
Remember Donald Trump told us this thing was subsiding?
Remember Larry Cutlow told us it was under control?
So why is it spreading all across the country?
It's why Donald Trump also now touting
the need to build a wall with Mexico
when there are nearly 800 cases in the United States
and there are just five in Mexico.
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All right, folks, it is primary day in six states across the country.
Of course, a week ago was Super Tuesday, which saw Joe Biden take a huge, huge lead against Senator Bernie Sanders.
Many people thought Bernie Sanders was going to run away with the nomination.
That did not happen.
All fueled by black voters.
Today, voters in six states, including Mississippi, are headed to the polls.
What is going to happen?
Joining us right now on my far right is Mario King. He is the mayor of Moss Point, Mississippi.
Kelly Bethea, she's a communications strategist.
And Malik Abdul, Republican strategist.
Mayor Mario, I'm going to start with you. It's very interesting. Hillary Clinton won Massachusetts,
excuse me, Mississippi, 83 to 16 in 2016. Bernie Sanders was supposed to do a huge speech in
Jackson, Mississippi. He called it off. Instead, he chose to focus on Michigan. Could we see a repeat in 2020 where Bernie Sanders is crushed in Mississippi?
I absolutely think so.
Just a week ago, Joe Biden visited one of our HBCUs, Tougaloo College, shout out to
them, and him, and he did it with Vivica Fox.
And they made headlines all through the state.
They was all on social media.
And just remember, Barack Obama is
our person, you know, and Mississippi has the largest amount of black elected officials per
capita. And those people like me are saying, hey, go out there and support Biden. You know,
we love him. We think he's great. He's actually invested in our community. We feel that he's
came there. He's been there. And we don't expect him to be on the ground knocking doors. But to come to our city and come to an HBCU
and actually bring a diverse crowd there and talk about what he wants to do for our country
was impactful. So I definitely think that you're going to see a repeat. I'm really excited about it.
And I'm feeling good about this election. Kelly, when you look at this election and how
I'm still trying to understand how the
Sanders camp could not have anticipated this was going to take place. That was a weakness of him
in 16. It's a weakness in 2020. Now, all of a sudden, and we'll talk about it a little bit as
well, where they're talking about this need to reboot. Okay. It's March 10th to say you need to do a reboot
to attract black voters
that's a problem. In fact
just to understand
we wanted, we tried to get
a black surrogate for
Sanders on today's show.
They couldn't offer one and I'm going
wait a minute
there are a number of people
you couldn't get one.
Yeah, that's that's troubling to me, considering that there has been no Democratic nominee who has won the nomination for the Democratic Party in over 30 years without the black vote.
So in essence, what you're saying is without us, you are not getting elected, period. And the fact that Bernie Sanders' camp knows this but still seems like they're doing nothing about it,
or at the very least they're doing something about it way too late in the game, that's concerning to me.
And they shouldn't be surprised when Biden sweeps again like he did in Super Tuesday because they dropped the ball.
Malik, when you look at what is happening here again with these six states that are voting
today, Senator Sanders has to frankly blow Biden out. Democrats have, of course, a proportional
delegation. You have to get at least 15 percent of the statewide vote, and then you look at
congressional districts when it comes to delegates. The Sanders team was feeling real good after
Nevada. They thought they were going to have an insurmountable lead after Super Tuesday. They
thought that he was going to crush Biden in California. Now, let's be clear, more than
three million votes in California still must be counted. But when you start looking at margins,
there are very few places where Sanders blew out Biden. There are a number of places where Biden blew out Sanders.
We look at after tonight's results,
if we see him blowing them out in Mississippi,
if we see Biden and the latest poll showing him up eight to 10 points in
Michigan,
the Detroit free press got the poll yesterday had bite up 24 points in
Michigan.
If Biden blows out Sanders tonight
in several states, and
Sanders doesn't blow him out, Biden's
lead increases.
Makes it even more difficult for
Sanders to have any shot at the nomination.
First of all, I want to say congratulations again
on the new set. It looks awesome.
Biden is going to blow
Bernie out. That's what he's going to to blow Bernie out.
That's just that's what he's going to do. And especially, you know, in Mississippi, he wasn't just at Tougaloo College.
He was at a New Hope Baptist Church, which is not far from where I grew up.
So Biden is doing exactly what he needs to do.
We what we've seen is that and you talked about it before there were people were talking about all of the momentum Bernie had before there was even a vote cast. And then they based it on what was
happening in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada. Well, we saw what happened when he got to South
Carolina. Things totally changed. And it almost overnight, it was a combination of Clyburn's
endorsement and really blacks, I think, just coming home feeling comfortable
with the fact that Joe is actually our guy.
Biden is going to blow Sanders out.
I think that he's going to win Michigan decisively.
And at this point, Sanders should just give, he's not going to, but Sanders should just
give it up after this.
One of the issues that I continue to have is there's these people who support Bernie Sanders, who somehow have created this notion that black people don't really know what they're doing, that we haven't got enough information, that we're not quite sure where Sanders stand on these issues.
Bernie Sanders has been running for four years.
So this idea that that black people still are quite unsure and we're just so much more comfortable with Joe Biden.
No, I think black voters are making decisions. And that is OK.
Him. Him. To beat him. I'm going with him.
I mean, you know, it frankly, it's insulting to keep insisting that black voters have not done any of this. Yeah. I am... I'm thankful that you said that.
People act like black people
don't have the capacity
to make informed
and intentional decisions.
This is what's happening.
We're making informed
and intentional decisions,
which is something
we do all the time.
We deserve to be respected.
See, the problem is
people haven't respected
our community in a long time.
And so when we demand
that respect in the more...
in the professional and classy way by exercising
our right to vote, people start then saying, well, the black community, black community,
like you said before, what about the white community? They always talk about black voters,
black voters, and acting like we don't have the capacity to actually do these things. But then
we don't hear anything about any of the others. But what I can say is that black people are
speaking loudly and we choose Biden.
And if they have a...
I feel like when we think about Bernie Sanders,
I think that the intentionalism
of our decision
is number one, is that
who is the best candidate to beat
what's already there?
Number two is who
can actually...
Who's going to do the most for the black community,
who's the most informed,
and then who's the most culturally aware?
And I think that Biden is that person.
You know, look, I'm sitting here,
and let me just go ahead and say it.
I got no problem calling some people out.
So I'm sitting here looking on
some of these idiotic comments
right now on YouTube.
And somebody, Honey, Ohana, T Tanay, blacks are not making informed decisions,
but we are the win factor. So what? We're just a bunch of uninformed people. So the
black people in South Carolina were uninformed. One second. And North Carolina. And Texas.
And Arkansas. and Massachusetts.
And Alabama.
The white folks in Maine.
The white folks in Minnesota.
The black people in Alabama.
Basically, all of those black people are grossly uninformed.
Okay, gotcha.
Let me also, let's see, BG fella here rolling prylips from Biden's ass.
It's called stating fact.
I mean, first of all, we're
covering this whole deal. Now, see, here's what I find to be interesting. Those of you who support
Senator Bernie Sanders, isn't it amazing that after Nevada, when everyone was saying he is the
absolute front runner, and when media was saying that Biden was going to get crushed by Sanders
on Super Tuesday, none of y'all were
complaining about the media. But now that you're behind, you're complaining about the media.
One who's asked, you're kissing. Let's see here. Let me go here. Why is Biden your guy,
Roland? Sure looks like it from abroad. Biden's not my guy. I'm covering the absolute,
I'm covering the race. Facts don't lie. There's a reason why, just so y'all understand,
the people who are sitting here talking about why
Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar dropped out.
It's not hard, y'all.
Buttigieg got 2%, he was polling 2% among black people.
Klobuchar was polling 0.5% among black people.
They were looking at a serious ass killing on Super Tuesday.
That's why they dropped out.
Okay, you want to maintain some dignity.
What you don't want is to get crushed across the board.
Then you have absolutely no leverage in the party, Kelly.
And again, this is, but what still was amazing to me, though, for the Sanders people, guys, you had four years to figure black people out.
Four years.
By yourself.
Four years.
One CBC member has endorsed Sanders.
Yeah. OK, if I'm Sanders and I know I'm running in 2020, I'm probably trying to figure out what kind of relationships I can have with the CBC and other entities in terms of looking for the 2020.
Kelly, he didn't. Not only did he not do that, I feel like he took black votes for granted anyway and tried to lump our issues with economic policy. So black people don't have
enough jobs. Black people don't have enough money. Black people don't have housing the way,
in the same way that white people do. And they, it seems to me that they figured out
that the reason behind that is simply economic policy, as opposed to there's a reason why blacks
don't have home ownership. There's a reason why
blacks are still, you know, way below on the wage gap and stuff. And it has nothing to do with just
economic policy. It has to do with the racism in this country. Thankfully, the Biden campaign
understands that. And they're actually addressing it from that angle as well as economic policy,
such that we actually feel like we are heard. And the Sanders campaign hasn't done that yet. And they haven't done it in four years. They didn't even do it in 2016. And it's just
really frustrating for you to think that you can just, you know, copy paste what you did in 2016
for 2020 as if we black voters did not also do our research on you. And the thing, first of all,
there was a piece that was a politicalico, folks, that talked about Sanders' inability to win over African American voters, especially those middle age or actually
older.
And that's one of the things that you're seeing.
And so joining us right now is Christopher Toler.
He is one of the folks who wrote that particular piece.
And so I want to bring him in right now.
Christopher, how are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
So you hear the conversation that we were having. And when I read today's article, when I read today's article on the Sanders campaign, talking about their sort of reboot again, reading that article, they were stating things in an article that should have been stated in August of 2019, not March of 2020.
Yeah, absolutely. I think from the work that we did, we really took a look at how different
messages appealed to the African-American community. And from what we saw, the messages around Trump as an economic threat
were not sufficient to actually drive Black voters into politics and to make them enthusiastic about
2020 politics. It was really only a message that involved specifically addressing the racism,
the threat to racial progress that Trump, that actually had any
effect at all.
Chris, first of all, you're a university professor.
Y'all did this study.
What did the study say specifically in terms of, about black voters and Sanders?
So far, most of the studies are really just public opinion polls and polls that try and use a subsection of a larger sample to understand black public opinion.
And it's really a poor way of doing things because you only end up with one to 200, maybe at most 400 black trying to make some broad generalizations. And so studies have shown that Sanders has drawn more enthusiasm from younger cohorts.
We're having some issues with Christopher's audio.
Are we back?
We're having some problems with his audio, so let's actually fix that,
and then we'll go back to Christopher in just one second.
Malik, again, if you're running for the Democratic nomination for president,
if you can't figure out how to get black votes, you have absolutely no shot at the nomination.
I think what you had here was, and I think one of the reasons why was saying that's pulling out of Mississippi.
First, he should have given a speech in Mississippi.
Yes. OK, because even because here's the deal.
Here's the deal for the Democrat nomination.
It's math. You can't let somebody blow you out.
Right. OK, so let's say let's say Biden wins Mississippi 70 30 or 65 35.
That's better than 83 16 when Hillary beat him.
But when you make no effort, okay?
First of all, the mayor of Jackson, Mississippi, Choco Lumumba,
chose to endorse Sanders after there was a survey of voters in Jackson.
He was part of the Will of the People.
So to cancel the speech, no.
You give the speech, you do the event, then you fly to Michigan.
Now the problem he's facing is he's going to lose Mississippi big time.
And looking at the current polling, he's going to lose in Michigan.
So you actually made it worse for you.
So you, the black population of Vermont is on par with, I think, Utah, maybe about 1.4, 1.6 percent. So there is an assumption that
somehow Bernie Sanders can speak to our issues. And like Kelly said, what Bernie Sanders has done,
if you hear him, if you watch him in the debate and he's talking about racism or equal, you know,
criminal justice and things like that, he lumps them under a, well, if you're concerned about climate change,
that is an issue that concerns black Americans. You know, he does this sort of dance where he
doesn't speak directly to black people because he doesn't have experience actually doing that.
And for him not to prepare himself, he knew in 2016, I'm going to run again. So you take an
analysis of where your fault lines were, where your
negatives were, and you build upon that. Well, Bernie Sanders decided not to do anything
but the same thing, which was climate change. Yeah, sure, as someone, if the federal government
decides to forgive all student loans, I'm absolutely for it. But that's not one of the
driving issues if you're talking about the black community.
And that that tone deafness is a serious is a serious blind spot for Bernie Sanders.
That's not going to serve him well after tonight, because I think it's done.
And of course, the endorsement of Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. It it came it came late.
The reality is it just came on Sunday. The Bernie campaign, of course, they have been trying to really drive that home.
But I think, again, this is one of those things that you have to look at the map.
The map is just very simple.
He experienced it in 16.
You cannot get crushed in the South and think that you're going to pick up momentum.
Because also when you start breaking down delegates, delegates are based upon size of states. The states where
Bernie says I can compete, which are largely white states, they're small. Okay. He lost Maine to Joe
Biden. Okay. Ain't that many people watching my show in Maine. And so and this is the thing that as somebody who covers politics, you've got to start breaking this thing down.
You know, Sanders, who says I had somebody say, in fact, Reverend Jackson was on yesterday.
He said, well, Biden didn't win white voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, but he doesn't need to.
Here's why. No Democrat has gotten more than 39 percent of the white vote since 1964.
OK, this idea that Joe Biden was going to get somehow get 40 plus percent of white people.
That was nuts. Sanders was not going to get 40 plus percent of white people.
That's nuts because no Democrat Bill Clinton didn't get more than 39 percent of the white vote.
So if you're running, you actually aren't going to get a lion's share of the white vote.
You must put together a broad coalition of black, Latino, Asian,
Native American, white, women, gay, evangelical,
and look at the martyrs.
That's how you actually win.
And that's the piece I think they're missing.
And just like I keep saying, same as people keep
saying, he could turn out young people.
When? Has it happened?
And I'm like, y'all,
if you want to have a discussion with me on this,
let's have a real discussion about the numbers.
You have not seen a dramatic
increase in young voters, so you can't
tell me, oh yeah, they're not coming
right now in March, but I'm going to get
them in November.
Well, I'll tell you, just to be honest,
these campaigns, when they run these campaigns,
a lot of these people are not culturally aware, culturally
competent. Let me tell you what I've seen in the Joe Biden campaign.
I've seen leaders, I've seen
him take city managers, people that are culturally
aware, grassroots people from Mississippi
and hired them on his campaign.
I've seen him bring in white
women, black women, Latino women coming out and speaking for his campaign. I've seen him bring in white women, black women,
Latino women coming out and speaking for his campaign.
Every conference I've been to as a mayor,
I've been to every large conference in this country,
Joe Biden has a program video with his logo
in the beginning and at the end.
Every other candidate, it's the next day.
We're at the National League of Cities conference right now.
Joe Biden had the first nicest, well
put together, he knows what he's
doing. He has a culturally aware and competent
staff. He knows where to
be and when to be there. He's
not following other candidates.
He's two steps ahead of every candidate
that's there. And so when we talk about
these campaigns, we can talk about, I always
tell people, when we talk to people in the community,
the grassroots people that are out there that's just
going to look for who they're going to vote for
just to give their vote and give their
appreciation to, they're looking for somebody
that's simply present and that can
speak to their issues, that's culturally aware,
culturally competent, culturally sensitive to the issues
that they have. Joe Biden is able to do
that because he has a team of people
that are culturally aware and they're
well-rounded. The other people, we just don't even know who they really are here's what's interesting to me i have
this uh uh interesting here um um and i'm reading this uh let me find this person's comment kelly
before i publicly blast them uh paris sming right dan did b, did Bernie Sanders do something to you, Roland? No, it's
called covering the election. See, again, though, this is part of the problem here.
Sanders' black supporters don't want to have this conversation when we have to have this
conversation because you can't explain what is happening if you don't break down what is
happening. Got that, Paris?
Well, the worst thing that anyone can do in the middle of an argument is deflect.
And that's what I'm seeing out of the camp of Bernie Sanders,
especially when it comes to getting black voters.
So what I'm seeing is, especially like right now,
you're actually laying out the facts
as to what's wrong with the Bernie campaign.
Like, we're seeing the gaps. Like I got some fool, Robert Nichols, a team of sellouts leading us to slaughter.
Okay, so I guess, so again, though.
Right.
See, this is the whole deal.
So I guess the black people in South Carolina were sellouts, and the black people in North Carolina,
and the black people in Texas, and the black people in Arkansas, and all the other states that Joe Biden won.
I guess all those people are sellouts.
See, this is idiotic.
And also, that doesn't help your campaign because you're not going to convince anybody
to come your way if you want to call somebody a sellout.
Not at all.
Robert Nichols.
Not at all.
Not there to driven people.
You know, so when I see that, again, they're deflecting.
You're actually giving us an issue point and they're not addressing the issue point. They're just like, well, they're deflecting. You're actually giving us an issue point,
and they're not addressing the issue point.
They're just like, well, you're a sellout.
You're saying that Bernie Sanders didn't go to Mississippi?
Well, you're a sellout.
Well, how are we a sellout if he didn't go to Mississippi?
He really didn't go to Mississippi.
Like, that's a problem.
If you're trying, like, the primary for Mississippi is today.
You didn't go to Mississippi to try and garner votes for you.
And that's a problem. And I love the people who say,
Rowley, you're not always right.
Okay, fine.
Show me why I said I was wrong.
They spotted me.
No, I mean, I just want y'all to show me.
Show me was I wrong that Sanders did not go to Selma this year.
Was I wrong that he did not have,
that he announced a major speech on race in Mississippi, then canceled it?
Was I wrong in quoting his own campaign?
See, this is why I think it's hilarious when you listen to people who are caught up in their feelings.
And you know what?
I always have a slogan called FYF.
You probably can figure that out when it comes to your feelings.
No, but that's part of the problem. People who are caught up in their feelings.
OK, because they because they don't want to confront what even the Sanders team is saying on this issue.
They don't even want to confront that. And here's the other deal.
We reached out to the Sanders campaign to have a black Sanders supporter on the show to state the case. They couldn't find one.
So again, please tell me how that's a problem for us. If that's the case, I'm just, I'm just,
I'm just trying to understand how, Oh, I'm wrong, but we only stated that.
And didn't we have a Black Sanders supporter on yesterday about his plan for black women in health care?
Yeah, I thought so.
Go ahead, Bellick.
Yeah, so you've said this many times before.
You know, if you're not willing to make the effort to – now, there isn't a lot of black media out there.
No, no.
So we're kind of standing alone and so considering the number of candidates that you've actually not not just their
surrogates but they're the candidates themselves that you've interviewed to not use this as an
opportunity it is this is the same thing that happened with Mississippi where Sanders decided
not to go because there's a larger share of white
voters in Michigan than there is in Mississippi. That is a blind spot for Sanders, and it is,
I don't know, and maybe it's, you know, how you get stubborn, and I think Sanders is stubborn
in that way, where he's saying, well, no, we don't have to do that to win. Okay, well,
you're going to lose again, just like you lost in 2016. I'm surprised he didn't take a page
out of... Chris is back?
Okay, all right,
folks, so we have Professor Chris Toler. He's back.
We got Skype issues all figured
out. Professor Toler,
why do
you think the Sanders campaign
just did
not focus on this
for four years?
How in 2020 you're having the same problem you had in 2016?
I think a lot of it is actually wrapped up in the thrust of Sanders and his campaign
and his message focused on the working class and economic justice.
And the message itself sort of encompasses racism and racial issues all in one sort of
raise the ship effort. In doing so, though, it makes it difficult to sort of separate
what issues need to be prioritized specifically for the African-American community within
an economic platform. And honestly, part of our article, part of the work that we're doing
is arguing that the Democratic Party as a whole really needs to do better at this and work at this
in the long haul, and that even though Sanders' message itself sort of is problematic on face
value, the party itself is going to be in a lot of trouble if they're not able to figure these
things out, even going into the general,
regardless of who the nominee is, because really African-American voters need to be turning out and voting at the same historic levels as in 2008 and 2012. But what's interesting is, and again,
this is where the conventional wisdom, I think, is all over the place. All we heard was that Sanders supporters are
raucous. They are going to turn out. They are excited. If you actually look at where Sanders
won, he won him in Buddha judge in Iowa. Turnout was flat. It was about the same in 16. Uh, look
what happened in New Hampshire. Turnout was flat. Those are white states, 90 plus percent.
All of a sudden you go to Nevada, 45 percent Latino increase in turnout.
Sanders did very well. He wins Nevada. But when you go to South Carolina, five hundred and thirty eight thousand people voted in South Carolina.
That's more than who voted in 2008 when Obama was on the ballot. Then then we go to Super Tuesday, Virginia, 2016, 760 plus thousand people voted in Virginia in 2016.
One point two million voted in Virginia in 2020.
North Carolina, Texas. I'm rattling off states that Biden won. So I'm just trying to,
it's interesting. Who's the turnout machine? The turnout machine is we hate Donald Trump.
And what these voters are saying is we're picking the person who we think can beat Donald Trump.
So again, to this, to team Sanders, explain to me how you have this massive turnout,
but your guy didn't win,
which means he's not the beneficiary
of the massive turnout.
Christopher, go ahead.
Yeah, and I think the rhetoric
around the massive turnout
is still yet to be seen, sort of.
As you mentioned,
we're still getting through these primaries,
and if Super Tuesday has any indication,
especially in states with large African-American communities and voters, Sanders is not seen as the best chance to beat Trump. And from all of our research and survey work, if not the most, one of the most powerful indicators as to whether or not African-Americans are going to turn out and participate in politics is how much they dislike
Trump and the Trump administration. That's really the force that's driving all of this within
politics right now. All right, Professor Chris Toler, man, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. All right, folks, I talked about Senator Bernie Sanders standing with,
Reverend Jackson standing with him on Sunday. This is a video
that Team Sanders actually put out praising Reverend Jackson. Go to my iPad, please. I stand with him and he's never lost his taste for justice for the people.
I stand with him because he stands with you.
Reverend Jackson works with Martin Luther King.
Jesse Jackson helped lead the fight
against segregation and racism in the South.
What he did as the first major African-American candidate
in the history of this country
was to put together a coalition
which he named the Rainbow Coalition.
He came to Vermont.
I'm proud we supported him back then.
He won Vermont and a number of other states,
including the state of Michigan.
We never lose when we fight together.
We must have a common agenda.
I talk these days about democratic socialism,
what does all that mean?
Democracy, all for and by the people.
We want a fair social spending budget. Democratic socialism, what does all that mean? Democracy, all for and by the people.
We want a fair social spending budget.
Roosevelt called it economic bill of rights.
Out of that came Social Security.
Johnson called it war on poverty.
Dr. King called it a job on income for every American.
For Johnson, Dr. King, or Roosevelt, we're on the right page.
Thank God for Bernie Sanders.
Bernie can win. Will God for Vernon Sanders. Vernon can win.
Will win.
Must win.
When Vernon wins, health care wins.
Love you guys.
Let me just say to the Reverend Jackson,
it is one of the honors of my life to be supported by a man who has put his life on the line
for the last 50 years fighting for justice.
All right, folks, again today, Michigan, 125 delegates on the line there.
The state of Washington, second biggest state with 89 delegates.
Sanders crushed Clinton by more than 40 points there in 2016.
Recent poll had Biden winning in Washington state.
Missouri, 68 delegates.
Mississippi, 36 delegates.
Idaho, 20 delegates.
North Dakota has 14 delegates there as well.
So we'll see exactly what happens tonight.
Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic presidential candidate who understands that wealth creation and the current racial wealth gap is linked to past racism and has a plan to address the impact on black America.
The crimes against black Americans still echo across the centuries and no single law can wipe out that slate clean. The time has come, I think, to fully commit ourselves to acknowledging our history and
righting our country's wrongs and that's exactly what I will do as president.
It's called the Greenwood Initiative.
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All right, folks. Today in Detroit, Joe Biden was campaigning there.
And let's just say he was surrounded by a whole bunch of white men who are all the workers.
And one of them had a serious problem. He did not expect expect cussing joe to show up how you intend on getting the union vote
when there is a large portion of the union workers that are gun enthusiasts and you are actively
trying to diminish your second amendment right and take away our guns you're full of shit all
right thank you guys i support the second The Second Amendment, just like right now, if you yell fire, that's not free speech.
And from the very beginning, I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge.
My sons hunt.
Guess what?
You're not allowed to own any weapon.
I'm not taking your gun away at all.
You need 100 rounds?
When you said you were going to take our guns, that means what?
I did not say that. I did not say that.
I did not say that.
It's a viral video.
It's a viral video like the other ones they're putting out that are saying it's a lie.
Your voice, you said that you're taking the guns.
He just clarified it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Take the AR-14s.
Okay, this is not okay.
Hold on, hold on.
Hey, let's be honest.
There's a lot of guys.
How you intend on getting the union vote? All right, y'all.
So, first of all, I love that video.
I love that video.
Okay?
And what I really love, not only with Biden saying you're full of shit,
him going, shush.
See, campaign aides always are trying to shut something down
because they're like, I'm going to protect the candidate.
Biden was like, no, no, no, no. I'm going to
cuss his ass out. Okay?
Here's the thing I find to be really amazing.
Here you have this white
auto worker standing there
saying, how are you going to get the union vote
when a lot of these folks,
you know, they're hunters.
Biden should have said,
if it wasn't for me and Obama, your punk ass wouldn't have a job.
Yeah, I said that, Malik.
Here's the reality.
Republicans stood against the auto bailout in 2009.
Who backed it?
Obama, Biden.
And see, that's what kills me.
And see, let me remind y'all, Romney was like was against the auto bailout.
When Obama dropped that ad on Romney after the first debate, his opposition to the auto bailout.
Oh, all that debate goodwill he got went all out the window.
See, it's amazing to me how people forget. So you're saying, oh, yeah, we want to hunt.
But your broke ass wouldn't even have money to buy a gun if didn't save the auto bailout. So that's what you talk about voting
against your interests. And the guy sitting there reading from the phone, no Biden wanted him. You
know what? I want to see that again. I just want to see Joe Biden cuss his ass out again. Press play.
How you intend on getting the union vote when there's a large portion of the union workers
that are gun enthusiasts
and you are actively trying to diminish
your second amendment right and take away our guns.
You're full of shit.
Now, shush.
Shush. I support the
second amendment. The second amendment
just like right now, if you yell fire, that's not free speech.
And from the very beginning, I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge.
My sons hunt.
Guess what?
You're not allowed to own any weapons.
I'm not taking your gun away at all.
You need 100 rounds?
So when you were in a vandal, when you said you were going to take our guns, that means what?
I did not say that.
That's not true. I did not say that. That's not true.
I did not say that.
It's a viral video.
It's a viral video like the other ones they're putting out that are saying they're lying.
Your voice, you said that you're taking the guns.
Well, he just clarified it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Take the AR, your AR-14s and what have you.
Okay, this is not okay.
Hold on, hold on.
All right.
You want to talk about this?
There's a lot of guys.
Hey, you're, how you intend on getting this?
You know what I find really interesting, Malik.
The auto workers are getting mad when Biden starts pointing, hey, hey, hey.
And I'm like, you roll up on me.
You in my personal space.
I agree.
And also the pearl clutching.
Oh, my goodness.
From all these Republicans.
Trump folks retrieved the video.
All the pearl clutching.
Do we need to remind Republicansans what don't trump has said
how don't trump has cussed get rid of the sons of bitches do we need to go just do a roll call
or what trump has said so i i will be consistent here and not have a problem with joe biden said
in the same way that i don't have a problem with many of the things that President Trump says
that we often say is unpresidential.
Now, I imagine that
if Donald Trump was actually engaging
with a voter... Actually, he wouldn't.
Because actually Donald Trump doesn't even get that close to voters.
I imagine that... No, but he wouldn't.
Maybe not. Not maybe.
Show me the video where Donald Trump would even
walk through and talk to a group of auto
workers like that. He just stands his ass behind a podium at a big old rally.
Even if he were a rally.
Yeah, I thought so.
Go ahead.
Even if he were at a rally, at a podium, engaging with a voter and had cussed the voter out, I'm pretty sure that our hair would be on fire at this point.
No, it wouldn't.
But I don't have a problem.
Because we do recall in that video what he said about way he grabbed women. our hair would be on fire at this point. No, it wouldn't. But I don't have a problem.
Because we do recall in that video what he said about the way he grabbed women.
Well, that's something totally different than engaging. Yeah, okay, totally different.
What that was is actually engaging with a voter.
And as I said, I don't have a problem with – I love the pushback.
One of the things I like about Donald Trump is that he's actually willing to push back.
I wish that there were times where Barack Obama –
Actually, he lies.
Actually, he lies. Well, actually – I that there were times where Barack Obama... Actually, he lies.
Well, actually... I wish there were times where Barack Obama actually utilized
some of that. You know damn well a black man
cannot sit here.
Come on, dog. Come on, dog.
Come on, dog. What I may know
and what I would like to happen, so I'm just
being honest, I wish that there were times where
Barack Obama said, look... Well, I like...
So, but... I like you not
looking like Mr. Rodgers right now, but your ass
do. I don't have a problem.
I don't have a problem.
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
Can we go out? Come on.
I don't have a problem with what
Joe Biden
did, and I do know that there
were Republicans who were against
Bush's 700 billion
or 700 was a million. I think the auto bailout of October of 2008. So I do know that there were
Republicans who were against that as well. But as far as this exchange, again, I have no problem
with what it but I know that if Donald Trump had did that, we would be having a man, the nonsense
that Donald Trump does all the time.
Look, at the end of the day, you got to start calling out these lying ass Trump people like you need to.
I'm sorry.
How do we know he's a Trump person?
He could.
How do we know he's a Trump person?
Mel, did you actually just say that?
Did he say that he was a Trump person?
Dog.
Anyway, like I said, said like i said because it's
the lion it's a straight up lion when joe biden's like hold up here the guns that i own what are
you talking about no in their mind if you suggest any form of gun control you're getting second
amendment that's the problem and that's why Biden said, you full of shit.
Look, let me say this.
I'm a mayor.
I am so appreciative of what he did.
Oftentimes, it's double standard that people can run up on the elected official and talk crazy and disrespect them and say what they want to say and then not expect them to respond as absolute foolishness. Now, it's a complete difference when you're on the podium at a rally talking crazy about a group of people
that have not even approached you or said anything.
This individual came up in his personal space
and called him out and lied on him.
So he had the exact right to address him
and tell him that he was full of shit,
because he was.
See, Kelly, this right here,
I have said this for years,
that exchange right there
is why I can't run for public office. That right there. No, I have said this for years, that exchange right there is why I can't run
for public office. That right there. No, I can't. Because see, I know. I'm going to start
with 100,000 votes and I'm going to end with about 18,000. No, because I'm telling you,
it really, because see, I remember the same thing, Elizabeth Warren. Remember that white
dude roll up on her? I think she was in Ohio.
And, well, with your plan to forgive student loans, where's my money?
You know, I work these jobs
and I paid all my daughter's debt
and I saved my money and my friend
was taking vacations and so what?
He gets a free ride. He was all in her face.
And then when she tried to answer, then he walked off.
See? Right there, I'd be like,
bring your punk ass back.
See, that's what I'm telling you all.
It's best I'm right here.
Because I know I would cuss a voter out every day.
It'd be like take some aspirin and cuss a voter out.
They go together.
I totally understand your viewpoint.
And, you know, even though I have a cool, calm demeanor on this show,
I really do have a short fuse when it comes to my temper.
So I'm with you.
I, too, could not vote or
run for public office because of my mouth.
But I say all that
to say I still
didn't like the video. I appreciate what
Biden did in addressing him, but
I
miss the respectability
of presidential
nominees and presidents.
That's gone.
I know it's gone.
Thanks to his guy.
That's gone.
So I have to revamp my mind a little bit and recalibrate how I see something.
That's why I can't wait.
Look, if Biden gets a nomination or Sanders gets a nomination, I can't wait for a debate.
His ass lying.
Right.
He ain't going to remember.
His ass lying.
That's rude. His ass lying. He ain't going to remember. His ass lying. Right. He ain't gonna remember. His ass lying. That's rude.
His ass lying.
He ain't gonna remember.
His ass lying.
I'm telling you right now.
I'm sorry.
The only way you did with Trump is his ass lying right now.
Lying, lying, lying, lying, lying.
That's where you turn.
You done?
Any more lies you want to tell American people?
He gonna stutter his way through.
No, he not.
Yes.
No, he not.
First of all.
I'm looking forward to that debate, actually.
First of all, Trump lies so much. If Joe Biden stutters lie, that means he's just repeating lie multiple times.
So it don't even matter.
But no, I'm telling you, you cannot, look, Joe Biden right now is preparing to deal with these crazy ass people.
Remember when that woman called Obama a Muslim and McCain took the microphone?
Ma'am, no.
Right.
No. No. No.
No.
That's gone.
Yeah.
Okay?
That, bye-bye.
Okay?
And the whole Republican Party has gone along with crazy-ass orange dudes.
No, and I understand that.
Again, it's still something that I can still say that I miss it.
I can still say that I miss the class that came with the presidential title and the nomination and that whole
process.
With respectability, politics
is a thing. It doesn't have
to translate through all aspects
of our lives, but at the very least, the
presidential election.
And unfortunately, it's gone
because of 45 and because of
I think it's social media.
No, hell no. I don't know. No, hell no.
I don't think that.
No,
hell no.
It's the punk ass dude you voted for.
Well,
Roland,
that's what it is.
That's the case then that that means.
And this is why I reject that argument that I hear people make many times.
If that's the case,
then you were right because we were perfection when Obama was in.
No,
no,
no.
Nobody said perfection.
Let me finish.
Nobody said perfection. If we finish. Nobody said perfection.
If we're talking about someone who was presidential and someone that our kids could look up to,
someone that we will follow and be proud of. Somebody who was a family man, somebody who had
one wife who had a baby mama and then he had the same two kids. Somebody who's also a Christian,
but go ahead. Then Barack Obama would be that standard
of the politician that we say, all right, if you're going to be presidential, then that's the
model that we should follow. But according to your party, he wasn't a Christian, he was a Muslim,
he was a thug, all that sort of stuff. What happened? If Obama was that model, then,
and we followed that model because it was Obama and somehow it just took him leaving
office for us really to dive in into our lesser selves which is essentially what we've done
no no it was Obama hold up it was Obama hold up but that was Obama dictate it was Obama
it was Bush it was Clinton it was Bush absolutely it was Reagan. Yeah. It was Bush. Absolutely. It was Reagan.
It was Ford.
It was Carter.
It was Ford.
You had Nixon.
You had LBJ.
You had Kennedy.
You had individuals who respected the office of president.
Now what you have is you have a vile, despicable thug who has thuggish children.
Oh, I do.
No, no, let me say it again.
Thuggish children.
Thuggish children.
Thuggish children.
Who love to berate people as well.
Defend their father.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Berate people as well.
You got little Fredo Donald Trump Jr.
Fredo.
You got Fredo 2 with Eric Trump.
Okay, you got all of that going on.
But why does that dictate your behavior?
No, no, no, no, no. Why does what Donald Trump
do dictate how we act?
Because here's why.
Because here's why.
I grew up in the home that I grew up in.
Because he respects no norms.
I don't care what they do in their house.
This is what you're going to do.
Right now, he's in the people's house.
Because of Donald Trump,
we can go down to the gutter
of politics because of
Donald Trump. You have to. That's an excuse.
Guess what? Michelle Obama
said when they go high, when they go low,
Michelle Obama said
when they go low,
we go high. And everybody
ignored that. No, no, no. People respected
that. The only way
you deal with Trump, when their ass
go low, you cut their ankles
off. Well, Michael Bloomberg tried that.
No, no, no. First of all, he wasn't
a nominee. Nice try. But I'm saying Michael Bloomberg
tried that in his campaign against Donald Trump.
You cut their ankles off. Because you know why?
When you're dealing with a thug, you've got to
swing like a thug. But Joe Biden can't do that.
Okay, all right.
Watch it happen.
I don't think Joe Biden...
Go ahead, then I'm going to break and go to my next guest.
First and foremost, I do respect what you said,
but let me tell y'all something.
What he did was not classy.
It was not thuggish.
Joe Biden responded to ignorance.
And he responded.
He wasn't yelling.
He said, full of shit.
We all know what shit is.
And what it was was shit that he said.
You can smell it and see it.
I don't think that what he did and how he handled himself
was not classy or was a deterioration of his character.
I think it was a showmanship of who he really is.
He was just being himself.
Well, if that's who he really is, that was just being himself, and I respect that.
That's problematic.
That's problematic.
We shouldn't be...
So how many people cuss in America?
It's not about America. He's trying to be
the president of the United States.
But he's supposed to be the standard for us.
But how many people in America...
That's irrelevant.
He can be the standard-in when he win.
Again, I'm not saying...
I completely understand,
but he's not walking around here cussing.
What he did, he was approached.
He was approached by a person that was antagonistic.
And I think that...
He did not cuss him out.
He used a curse word.
No, he definitely cussed him out.
He used a curse word.
Full of shit, son of a bitch.
And he had respect.
No, he's not.
He didn't say black people don't marry.
First of all, full of shit, son of a bitch,
not the same thing.
That means you might call your mama a bitch.
Again, I'm not saying
that what he said wasn't
warranted. I'm not saying what he said
isn't valid. What I'm saying is
And you didn't say what he said was like how Trump
behaves. Oh, no, no, no. I'm not saying that either.
What I'm saying is it was unpresidential.
It was. It had a slip up
and it was unpresidential.
And if it happened tomorrow, cuss his ass What I'm saying is it was unpresidential. It had a slip up and it was unpresidential. All right, guess what?
If it happened tomorrow, cuss his ass out again.
All right, got to go to a break.
We come back.
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Alright folks, as the
electioneers, Democratic House members are revving up
their efforts to pass the Voting Rights
Act. Now, remember they actually
passed H.R. 4. It was designed to
make it more difficult for states to discriminate against voters of color and give the federal government a stronger ability to
take action against states with a history of discrimination. But, of course, Republicans
haven't done a damn thing because Mitch McConnell, he calls himself the Grin Reaper. Joining us right
now is Diallo Brooks, Senior Director of Outreach and Public Engagement for People for the American
Way. Here's the problem. Democrats can do whatever they want to do in the House, but you have Mitch
McConnell, who is not going to do a damn thing. Republicans do not care about
this issue when it comes to voting. They sit here, they front, they lie. They go down there to Selma
every year with Congressman John Lewis on a damn field trip, take pictures, say, oh my God,
this is so great. We're celebrating all the people, you know, who marched in the foot soldiers.
And they come back to D.C. and do the same BS they always do.
Yep, that's what they've done.
And basically, if you look at the suite of stuff that's happened in the House side,
we said we create change in the House.
We elect more Democrats in the House.
We actually do work.
Folks pass some legislation, pass some good legislation,
really trying to get corruption out of the system, money and politics issues,
deal with some of the voting issues, the voter purges that we see, the voter ID stuff that we
see. And it gets to the Senate and it dies in the Mitch McConnell graveyard. And so as folks are
going to the polls in these primaries and getting ready for the general election, that has to be front of mind, particularly for black voters, is that this Senate under the Republican administration is a place where good pieces, practical stuff that makes sense goes to die.
And so they used to be bipartisan.
The reality is the reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act typically was a bipartisan act.
Exactly.
When the Supreme Court made that decision, Shelby v. Holder, these Republican-led legislatures and governors immediately went about across the country, not one state, not two, not three, not five, began changing the law.
Right. 1,200 polling locations. The reason those locations closed is because, not because of money,
because they knew after the Supreme Court decision
they didn't have to worry about preclearance
from the Department of Justice.
All the voter ID laws,
all the voter suppression stuff,
they put that thing was on steroids
after Shelby v. Holder.
Yes, and you saw it happen in Alabama,
but also you saw it recently in Texas. Look at
how many polling places have closed. I think it's over 750 polling places closed in Texas.
750. So places where people were used to going to vote, they're eliminating those things.
But here's also what has happened this year in Texas. Okay. Because see,
people were talking about the long lines in Texas, actually, it was
Republicans being obstinate in Texas. So here's why. First of all, because Democrats control
counties, Dallas County, Harris County, Bexar County, Travis County. So here's what they said.
They said, okay, to the Republican Party, can we have voting booths where anybody can vote?
They knew there were going to be very few people voting in the Republican primary.
Republican Party said, nope.
If y'all have 10, we have 10, and only Republicans can vote in our 10.
So what happened was, to all y'all people who understand, and our parents also worked
the polls in Texas, I saw when I voted.
You have two different rooms, two different areas there.
And so you had 10 booths not being used at all.
And you had all the people over here trying to use 10.
The Harris County elections clerk, she posted the letter where they asked Republicans,
why don't you simply join us and say
let people use the vote? Because all you got to do is when you go vote, they give you a ballot,
a Democratic ballot, Republican ballot. You can use any machine. Republicans said, nope,
same number, and you can't use them. That's actually what contributed to those long lines
in Texas as well. Exactly. And so what you see is voter suppression.
You see folks being pushed out of the process that are not,
they're doing everything that they can to keep folks from participating in this process.
Because they know, they know when black folks show up, when black folks turn out,
it becomes very difficult for them to win an election.
When black folks turn out in large numbers.
So they do everything possible to undermine that. And then, like I said, the House has done a great job of saying, OK,
you kick the ball back to us, the Supreme Court. We're going to address these. Right.
After after after after you had Wisconsin Congressman Simpson, who pushed tried to push
for the bill, could not get enough of his Republican colleagues
to sign on as co-authors.
And in fact, each year he introduced it,
it had fewer and fewer Republican co-authors
that signed on.
The only reason they got passed
was Democrats took control of the House.
But see, it's their strategy.
They've understood.
And so they started to come together and say,
look, we're going to have a strategy
of undermining the vote every way we can.
And every opportunity that's presented themselves, they've taken advantage of that to eliminate voters from the process.
Because you see these massive voter purges that are happening in states.
And so, like I said, the House has done some stuff to address those issues.
And when it's been sent to the Senate that's Republican-led, Mitch McConnell was the
one that makes the decision on what bills get dealt with. It's a graveyard. It goes and dies.
And so, like I said, as we go to the polls, y'all had a rich discussion earlier,
as we go to the polls, black folks have to realize that they're taking something from you.
They care about doing that.
Why won't your boy, Mitch McConnell,
allow the bill to come to the floor?
The Senate has always been the place where bills go to die.
That's not what I asked you.
Why won't Mitch McConnell
allow the House vote
and House bills to come
to the floor? But you have to let me answer the question.
So the Senate
is usually the place where bills go to die.
So you're actually right that it's a graveyard. That's usually that's what the Senate does.
Why won't why won't Mitch McConnell bring it forward? I don't know.
I think it's something that actually should come. I think the number of bills actually should come to the floor.
Mitch McConnell has not done that. But I think it's something that I don't think that these are conversations that are particularly helpful to the Republican Party to
continue to have this notion I'm sorry I mean the honest ones well I don't think
this is something actually beneficial to the Republican Party to have Mitch
McConnell come as the constant in a constant discussion about voter
suppression so this is something that I think was passed in December I think it
was introduced in March and maybe passed by the House in December.
But we're now into March.
So what that calendar looks like, I don't know.
But I do think that it's something that Mitch McConnell should bring to the table.
Kelly, Mitch McConnell understands that voter suppression is absolutely a part of the Republican Party platform.
This is it's not written, but it's real clear.
You can't tell me consistently all across the country.
Republicans keep pulling these games and it's not the plan of the Republican Party.
I mean, and the numbers show that.
Regarding the Senate specifically,
I don't understand why any of these bills haven't come to the floor,
specifically regarding voter suppression.
Because if the Republicans,
they have the majority in the Senate, right?
So if it goes to the floor,
it's going to be voted against anyway.
So what's the point of just having it? And it's going to be voted against anyway. So what's the point of just having it?
And it's going to be voted against
because they do not support.
Exactly.
They purposely want voter suppression.
Republicans need to keep the voting total low
to give them a shot.
No, I understand that.
No, you said, I don't know why.
That's the reason.
No, but what I'm saying is,
yes, the bill is going to the Senate to die, but it'll also
die either way by vote.
But what Mitch is doing
is he's protecting his colleagues.
He's the ultimate protector
in that building. So he's saying,
okay, you don't have to go on record.
You got campaigns coming up.
You got campaigns coming up.
You don't have to vote on this. I'll go ahead and
be the bad guy.
I'll hold these bills.
Nobody votes on it.
There's nothing on the record saying that you're against these bills.
So you could go out there and lie and say, oh, I mean, yeah.
Hey, if it comes up for votes.
If it comes up, we'll consider it.
No damn way he ain't going to ever bring it up.
And I'll just say this, too, from that end.
I know this might be something that's a little bit difficult. Y'all know, look, in these localities where they're actually eliminating voter, voter, where people vote,
it's a lot of times they say, oh, it's because we can't afford to pay poll workers. There are so many different reasons that come up and some of them are in black communities. I think it's
important that we also address the concerns and inform people how important it is that this individual that have been voting at the community center for 25 years understands that.
And I think that these bills, you know, so if you look at some of these bills, they still don't address the amount of space, the amount of time it takes or how many miles are between the voters place and their residential places. So I think too they need a little bit of input from people that are actually on the ground
because these are issues that we have in localities. I know from a municipal standpoint
sometimes we want to decrease voter standpoints. I mean voter places just to make it easier. Let's
have one polling location, one voting location, but I think these bills... And is it a police station? Right. You know, sometimes it's a fire station. But I will say that the importance is, is that
these bills are not really culturally sensitive. They're not competent of the areas. And I think
that these bills should be directed to like more local mandates. So county and municipalities
should be able to look at these things because that's who really control these elections. And when they're controlled by Republicans or Democrats,
oftentimes they're not really done properly anyway from a local standpoint. But I do think that,
number one, these national bills are not really fully developed. Number two, I think that
party is completely ruining the entire process.
And number three, we've got to remember things like the Civil Rights Act.
We've got to remember things that are really important
and things that people fought for so they could have on the...
But here's the deal, though.
Here's the deal, though.
Republicans are doing something that's even more dastardly
and shameful and despicable, and that is this here.
It's happening in your state.
What they have been doing is, D.I.,
I'll let you discuss this.
We know about my state.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But what I'm saying is,
and it's a small organization out of Virginia,
and what they've been doing is,
they have been sending letters
to small towns in Mississippi saying,
we have determined you need to purge these people
from your voting rolls or you're gonna be in violation
and therefore we're going to sue you. and there have been small locales in Mississippi who cannot afford
any legal battle and they're like well we got no choice to doing so those are Republican-led
efforts and you've had civil rights groups Diallo trying to fight them but they have been doing that
sending letters to these small towns to get them to purge black and brown people from the voting polls.
Right. And they've been pushing that. But also there's another organization that's just as dangerous as well.
It's called ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. Right.
And so they work with all these state legislators around the country and they have been they've had a history of doing a lot of work behind the country, and they have been, they've had a history of doing a lot of work behind the scenes,
basically with corporations and some other folks, of really figuring out strategies to undermine
the turnout. Because like you said before, Roland, you hit the nail on the head. Less people turning
out impacts their ability to win or lose an election. So particularly less people of color,
less black people. The less black people that turn out, the more likely they are to win or lose an election. So particularly less people of color, less black people.
The less black people that turn out,
the more likely they are to win.
So they have these strategies.
So it's not just like the polling locations,
which you mentioned,
but it's also polling locations
coupled with voter ID laws.
So, okay, I have to get an ID,
but the place I go to get my ID
is only open from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock.
Or like today, Kristen Clark tweeted this here, St. Charles, Missouri.
They were telling folks they needed an ID to vote, and no, you don't.
All you need is you can have a utility bill or other items showing your address,
and that was an absolute lie.
That was a lie.
And again, these are the things that are happening.
This is what I'm saying.
In communities like mine, that is what the people think is right.
So they're fumbling to get to the DMV, and then the DMV closed at 5.
There's still 30 people that still haven't gotten their ID,
and they are registered to vote.
But as leaders, as municipal leaders,
we have to do a better job at educating our people and making sure that they understand what they registered to vote, but we have, as leaders, as municipal leaders, and as, we have to do a better job
at educating our people
and making sure that they understand
what they have to vote.
So what we do is we send out one-pages,
the same efforts that go out,
because I'm going to tell you,
that purging, as Joe Biden would say,
that purging bullshit,
that has come to our city every year, okay,
to purge the road,
and we're going to do this,
and we're going to do that,
but the reality is nobody's telling people, hey, you need to, you don't have to have an ID,
you can have this. Nobody's telling you. No, no, no, no, no, that's, no, no, people,
groups are doing that. But again, this goes back to, which is really is a fundamental issue,
and it came out in Bush v. Gore, and that is there's no affirmative right to vote in the United States Constitution.
Right.
People keep saying voting is a right.
Actually, it's not.
Justice Antonin Scalia literally wrote that, okay, in his particular opinion.
The problem is, and Alicia Reese has been trying to do this in Ohio, trying to get a ballot initiative to actually make voting a state right.
Because what that then does is then it eliminates all these fights we keep having every four years of polling locations.
OK, what about our locations being open because of early voting?
Because now when you make it a state right, that now changes the whole piece.
Right now, what you're dealing with is you're dealing with this constant battle
because it's not an actual right.
Right.
Yeah, it's that and it's the fact that the court struck down the voting rights act.
Because what you had before was a federal government that was able to come in and say,
hey, there's voter suppression tactics.
But not everywhere.
Not everywhere.
You're right.
And that was the problem because what happened was, you know,
all these white folks in the South, oh, this is so unfair that, you know,
that we're being targeted.
And then you had John Roberts who, for some damn reason,
acted like he can't read.
He goes, oh, well, no. Well, if you look at
the turnout of African Americans,
that means the Voting Rights Act has
worked. Yeah.
Because you had protection.
That's why. That's sort of
like saying, wow, you
were able to go to school.
Yeah, you see this big ass dude behind
me scaring off the bullies? That's why
nobody was fighting me coming to school
getting rid of the bully.
Guess what? I'm back to fighting.
That's exactly what happened. When they gutted
that section, it went
right back to what those states were doing.
They said, oh, it's open season. And it was
immediate how they passed
those bills. Final comment. But that's why elections
matter, and that's why the presidency matters,
because the president is the one who determines
who sits on that Supreme Court.
And so if we're not thinking about the courts,
our federal courts, which was a place of protection for us,
then it's a problem.
So that's why our folks need to be, you know,
geared up, ready, organized, educated,
to be able to turn out, to do what's necessary
to change the game,
because it's a difference between Trump or a Democrat
making a decision who sits on the Supreme Court
and where our protection is.
Bottom line is, I have no confidence
whatsoever Republicans are going to have any guts
when it comes to supporting voting rights,
because they know full well
that a smaller number benefits them.
Simple as that.
Y'all, thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Thanks for having me.
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Yeah, the coronavirus continues to cause panic across the country tonight.
New York City is calling the National Guard to the summer of New Rochelle to set up a containment area.
Here's a map of the one mile radius area.
Now, within this space, National Guard troops will help to clean public spaces.
They will also be used in Westchester County to deliver food to quarantine households.
New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo says gathering places such as schools and religious institutions
within a one-mile radius of a highly impacted area of New Rochelle will be shut down.
The restrictions will begin starting March 12th and last until March 25th.
Now, speaking of the coronavirus,
CDC Director Robert Redfield said efforts to fully contain the virus
in some parts of the U.S. had failed,
and the government would focus on blunting its impact
with measures like curtailing large gatherings.
Okay, I'm trying to understand.
Now, look, didn't Larry Cutlow stand before the cameras
and say, this has been contained?
Didn't Donald Trump say it's been contained?
So if they kept saying this has been contained, how do we keep getting new cases?
Oh, clearly.
Well, first of all, it's impossible.
It was impossible for this to be contained.
So they were lying?
As we're saying.
I don't know if they were.
Were they lying?
Look.
Yes or no? Were they lying? I think that they, to be honest. Man, were they lying? Yes we're saying, I don't know if they were. Were they lying? Look. Yes or no. Were they lying?
I think that they, to be honest. Millick, were they lying? Yes or no? To be honest, because I
actually saw both of those that you're referencing when they made the containment. I think that they
were speaking from a federal government perspective and not trying to cause an actual panic. No,
no, Millick, were they lying? Well, I just would not say that they were lying. Right. But you wouldn't say it, but you know, but you know,. Well, I just would not say that they were lying. Right.
But you wouldn't say it.
But, you know, but you know, they were lying.
I would not say that they are lying. But what I will say, Mario, what a lie.
They were very.
Well, of course, he's going to know.
No, Mario, what a lie.
No, hold up.
This is a mayor.
This is somebody who's responsible for citizens in his care.
And when you heard government officials, Larry Cutler before the cameras, when you heard Donald Trump saying, oh, this is contained.
Hey, it's down to zero.
More cases.
What are the medical professionals saying?
Well, if Cutlow and Trump had shut the hell up, allowed the medical professionals to talk, we could hear them.
I actually agree with that.
So with that being said, I think number one, and I'll answer the question first.
Yes. So with that being said, I think number one, and I'll answer the question first, yes.
And let me tell you, to me, the problem with coronavirus is, number one, that you've got these people like Donald Trump and these different individuals getting up speaking on something that they're completely ignorant towards.
And they're not allowed, they didn't allow the medical professionals to get out in front of this
and to discuss it and actually talk about the real issues, the different strands, and actually educate
the people on this. You have a
conglomerate of people that are
in fear and scared and things like that
because of the president's
intentional
lies that he put out about
coronavirus. Donald Trump said if you have it, go back to work.
Right. But I don't think that's why
people are afraid. No, no. Let me tell you
why that plays a
factor. Donald Trump said if you have coronavirus,
go back to work, it's all good.
Let me tell you why, no, no, look,
this is why that plays a factor in fear.
Because when he's saying this, and then you got
medical professionals saying that, and then you got
these individuals, you're confusing people.
When you confuse people, you put fear in them.
Mario, at CPAC,
them crazy white folks at CPAC were going, oh, this is fake.
This is not real.
This is all made up.
And guess who got sick?
Somebody at CPAC. Which is why three members of Congress right now are self-quarantined because they all came into contact with that person, including Mike Pence and Trump.
Kelly, bottom line is Trump has been
lying and they have
stood out there and not led.
He has been blocking the
experts from speaking
and being truthful. This is where
dude, sit your ass down and be
quiet. But no, you
want to go to the CDC and say,
a doctor say, I am so
great at this.
I should have gone down this path instead of running for president because he's convinced himself that now he is all knowing about viruses in the world.
Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. And my main point of contention with 45 is the fact that he doesn't let other people lead.
Like he feels like he's the expert on everything, and it is clear that he is not.
It is clear that he doesn't know what he's talking about,
like, 95, 99, 100% of the time.
So what happens is you have experts
who are trying to push the information out there,
like Mario was saying,
and it's literally combating
with what the president of the United States is saying,
and it's creating chaos. And it could literally combating with what the president of the United States is saying. And it's creating chaos.
And it could have been contained.
It could have been more regulated.
But we have literally this ball of confusion, not only from the government, but from the medical field.
So there's a difference between what Donald Trump says and what the capabilities of our federal government. So I reject the notion that if Donald Trump had not said some of the things that Donald Trump had said,
that our federal government wouldn't be in a position.
I didn't agree with you.
Donald Trump is the head of the executive branch of government.
But again, since they've actually created, and I can't think of whatever they call it,
every single day, because I watch the news and I'm sure all of us watch the news.
Every single day, medical professionals are on television telling us about what to expect.
And every single day, every single day, Donald Trump is saying something that is contradicting what they say.
And then you have these dumb MAGA people like, well, Donald said everything's great.
Well, I'm going to believe Donald. I'm not going to believe the head of the CDC. I'm
not going to believe Secretary of the Health and Human Services.
I'm going to believe Donald
because he's my man. And I doubt any of us on this panel
know any of those people who actually
believe that stuff. So Donald, I don't
do we personally know
people because I know. And if anybody
knows MAGA people, it's actually me.
I'm not talking about what you see online. I'm not talking about what you see online.
I'm not talking about what you...
But I'm talking about... I'm saying
personally know people. So every single
day...
Well, why wouldn't you? Because that's not my...
I know black Democrats.
It doesn't mean... Just because you...
It doesn't mean you can't know other people.
Here we go to my iPad.
This is Larry Cutlow on CNBC on February 25th, y'all.
Yeah.
That was February 25th.
Larry Cutlow said, it's not airtight, but we've contained this.
It's close to airtight.
Larry Cutlow, the economic, what, economic policy advisor.
This is, as I said, they should actually leave this to the medical professionals.
Hold on, hold on.
No, no, no, no.
But I need you to answer this here.
Why are they lying?
So, because I didn't.
So the clip that you actually played.
Now, there's a, I think there is a distinction that we could rightly make in the argument
of when we're talking about something that's contained.
So there's not a pandemic in the United States of coronavirus.
So now you're acting like... Oh my God.
No, I'm not acting like them. I'm actually
giving you an answer. Oh my God.
Malik. Malik. Malik.
I'll actually be able to respond. Malik. Malik. Stop.
Malik. I think that there is something
to be said. Malik, defy contain. Defy contain.
Well, contain generally
if we're talking about contain what most people
think that there are no additional cases that are going to come from this.
Hold on. Is that what contained means?
Well, if we're talking about contained.
I'm asking you to define contained.
That's how I would define contained and whether or not it's an actual outbreak.
So the National Economic Council director.
Yeah.
Goes.
Economic Council director, which is my point.
Which is why he should sit his ass down.
But I've said that.
But I've literally said that.
But this is the problem, Kelly.
I've said that about Trump and I've said that about Cutler.
Kelly, but this is the problem.
You just don't want to deal with that.
No, no, no.
I am dealing with that.
No, no, no, Malik.
What I'm dealing with.
I've said that Trump should stop.
No, no.
I've said that.
Kelly, what I'm dealing with here is this, because I know how the system works.
You, as a National Economic Council director,
you cannot go on television unless somebody has approved it.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely. You just can't just hop up.
And so the fact of the matter is,
Kutlo was sent out to say that
because Donald Trump only gives a damn
about himself and the stock market.
They were trying to stop the stock market from dropping.
Which is valid.
No, it's not valid.
It is not.
What you do is you don't lie to try to get it to happen.
And guess what?
Nobody in the stock market believed them, and that's why the stock market has lost more
than 4,000 points, wiped out gains for the last two years, and these fools keep lying.
They stood there and Donald Trump Friday
Look look anyone you want test you can get a test
You want to test you can get a test today? I'm live
It was an absolute lie because we'd already heard them say yeah the number of tests we said we're gonna have available
We actually don't have them available. They keep lying and that's the problem here. And then, of course, I'm going to find in a
second, wait till I play this media matters clip where they just juxtapose Fox News and Fox News
looking at, you know, the Ebola virus, which was two people, two nurses who was let back into the United States. And you swore
Americans were just dropping dead
from Ebola left and right,
and how they were trashing Obama.
The fact of the matter is, the Trump people keep lying,
and they keep making stuff up,
and they make it hard
for the people to trust the professionals
because, unfortunately,
it's a bunch of these dumb MAGA people
who only believe Trump. Go ahead. Not dumb MAGA people who only believe Trump.
Go ahead.
Not only is it that they only believe Trump, they believe the president.
They believe that office.
So the problem with Trump lying is that he is the head of the executive branch of the United States.
CDC falls under that.
Surgeon General falls under that.
They're on his cabinet.
So everything that you hear from these other officials, they're all under
Trump. So when they say one thing
and Trump says another, no one's
going to believe the former
because the latter overrides
the former. Well, you should. Common sense says that you
should. Well, first of all,
common sense says that you should trust a medical
professional. Well, first of all, it's a
first of all, it's a bias. No, I would
actually, I would actually, I would actually believe my doctor over a president of the United States. Well, first of all, it's a... First of all, it's a bonus. I would actually believe my doctor over a president of the United States.
Well, actually,
normally,
normally, we have
normal,
non-narcissistic presidents.
A narcissistic president? We've never had one of those.
Excuse me. Normally,
when you have non-narcissistic
presidents, where it's not all
about them who understand how to urge calm, who understand how to defer to the medical professionals,
what you have not had was a silly-ass president who goes to the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention wearing a MAGA hat and essentially shushing them and then comparing the perfect coronavirus test to his perfect call to the Ukrainians.
That's the ignorance that you have here.
But again, also, just so y'all understand, OK, understand, OK, who's the number one news network?
Fox News. OK, I want to show y'all, I'll show y'all this video here.
Media Mavs put this together. And when you listen to
all these people who are trashing,
who are trashing
Democrats, and you listen to,
and then of course last night, oh my God,
did y'all see Nutty Trish Regan
in her video? Oh my
God, it was, this is
just a shame. This is just,
this is where we should be joining together as a country
and not criticizing our president, the same one who keeps lying.
Matter of fact, I got to play that one first.
Y'all is, no, no, no.
Well, first of all, you can't come.
How in the hell are we going to come together
when he can't even get together with his own administration
and give a straight answer?
Well, because we should be able to do things
without the president giving us permission to actually do it.
Okay, I don't know what...
You know what?
I'm just saying.
I don't know, really.
We continue to base our behavior on the president.
For the only person on this panel who actually voted for him
and said they're going to vote for him again,
you actually saying some bullshit.
So let me go...
Let me just go ahead and just say that.
It just happened to be some real issues.
It's some absolute bullshit.
Because you like that type of... Y'all, last night, y'all want to see crazy? Let me go. Let me just go ahead and just say that. Just some absolute bullshit.
Y'all, last night, y'all want to see crazy?
This is like children of the corn crazy.
Okay? Y'all, watch this.
The chorus of hate being leveled at the president is nearing a crescendo as Democrats blame him and only him
for a virus that originated halfway around the world.
This is yet another attempt to impeach the president. And sadly, it seems they care very little for any of the destruction they
are leaving in their wake. Losses in the stock market. All this, unfortunately, just part of the
political casualties for them. You know, this is a time to be united,
not to be pointing fingers,
not to be encouraging hate.
And yet, what do we see?
We see the absolute opposite from the left tonight.
Good evening, everyone.
I am Trish Regan.
The hate is boiling over.
Many in the liberal media using,
and I mean using,
coronavirus in an attempt...
He's already impeached. Y'all, I'm. You can't impeach him again. Y'all,
that was so much crazy. I figured I needed a break. Okay, back to crazy.
To demonize and destroy the president.
I don't think the president is capable of telling us the truth about the coronavirus.
They have no plan. They have no plan.
The virus is going to kill Americans regardless of their stupidity.
This administration right now looks like they couldn't organize a one car parade.
He is not going to be able to have his rallies and it is going to psychologically torment him.
The president should lead or else he should get out of the way.
Stay on the golf course.
This may be Donald Trump's Katrina.
Yeah.
This is an event that could take down a president.
There's no confidence in the president in anything he says or does.
I wish he would just be quiet.
I see.
This is impeachment all over again.
And like with the Mueller investigation,
like with Ukraine gate, they don't care who they hurt, whether it be their need to create mass hysteria to encourage a market sell-off, unlike anything we've seen recently, or whether
it be to create mass hysteria in order to stop our economy dead in its tracks. Don't
kid yourself. They told us how much they crave a recession as a way to get rid of Donald
Trump.
Some elements of truth.
Y'all, I tried to tell y'all, I tried to tell y'all, it's a whole lot of cray-cray over
there at Fox News. And when I say cray-cray, now y'all just heard,
breathy, oh my God,
what's going to happen?
Protect Trump at all costs.
Y'all heard all of that.
Now, I want y'all to see,
now y'all know right now,
coronavirus is spreading across the country.
People have actually died.
Two people, two.
Who was the conservative that did 2 and 2?
What's his name?
Chuck Woolery?
Yeah, who loved just Trump.
2 and 2.
Two people got infected with the Ebola virus
who came from, I forgot, African nation to the United States.
Liberia.
Two.
Two.
Two.
Watch this.
If you want to see the difference between Fox News losing their mind over two people
compared to the more than 800 who have not been impacted by coronavirus.
And it all really starts at the top.
It starts with Obama.
And lots of bad things are happening to this country.
Obama has imported dangerous things into this country since he got there.
He's imported socialism here. He's imported Ebola into America.
The president should be cautious, safety first.
But we're doing political correctness first.
Why has the president done absolutely nothing?
Obama's incompetency, his administration's incompetency, is really shining bright in this first. Why has the president done absolutely nothing? Obama's incompetency,
his administration's incompetency is really shining bright in this one. And if only President
Obama would put America first. Well, this president is all about making America safe again.
No president ever, except Donald Trump, ever acted faster, ever acted sooner,
or have done more to stop the spread of an infectious disease. He could personally suck the virus out of every one of the 60,000 people in the world
and suck it out of their lungs, swim to the bottom of the ocean and spit it out and he
would be accused of pollution.
I actually think the president has, you know, in his press conference, he's handled this
so professionally and I think he reassured people.
Well, I think very few people trust our government as being competent. Let's not kid ourselves.
This is a top 10 city in the United States of America. Happens to be one that doesn't
particularly care for the president all that much and his policies, one that the president
has not been too favorable on. We are already being squeezed on our southern border.
Now we're being squeezed by Ebola.
Is there an agenda here? Their priorities are not always
obviously that of the national interest. In this case, it is if he's making some sort of
neoliberal one-world statement rather than talking about the country's public health standards and
protections. I mean we have virtually incompetent leadership.
So why would anybody trust our government to handle this crisis?
President Trump today detailing efforts to combat the coronavirus.
We've been very vigilant and we've done a tremendous job.
The government has done an amazing job, I think.
You know, this is a time to be united, not to be pointing fingers,
not to be encouraging hate.
And yet, what do we see?
We see the absolute opposite from the left tonight.
The media complains that there was a lackluster initial response by the Trump administration.
Say what?
The sense one could get from watching a lot of the coverage in the commentary that the
coronavirus originated in the Trump White House and that the president is trying to spread it
as fast as he can to as many people as possible,
which, of course, is nonsense.
Remember, the president said that this disease
wouldn't make it here.
Well, then it did, and then when it got here,
it wasn't going to spread.
Well, now it has.
Those two white people were in Africa
caring for thousands of black people,
and they should be saluted and regarded as
heroes.
He chose to take on the tone of a bureaucrat and a weak and tepid bureaucrat at that.
Obama doesn't, I don't think, take it as seriously as, again, these African countries are or
Britain and France.
President Trump and his team laid out in fairly painstaking detail today
their prep for a possible virus outbreak
in the United States.
But that was not good enough
for the party of pain and misery.
Sadly, instead of working hand-in-hand
with the administration,
top Democrats and some in the media
are playing the blame game.
President Trump was literally reacting
in record time.
The president and the CDC director has claimed that banning entry of those who have been in Liberia and other West African nations
where cases of Ebola have been reported would hurt our relations with these nations.
Hurting someone's feelings should not be the concern of the president.
Protecting American citizens should be.
The president does not seem to have the interests of the American people
on the top of the list. The president said this. The explanation was, look, in the military,
they have to do what they're told. All right. So we're going to tell them they have to be in 21
day quarantine. But civilians and they have the power to tell civilians, hey, look, you have to
be in quarantine. And if you're not, we'll forcibly put you in there. The constitutional power is there.
Why does this president not protect the American people?
Why does he care about these esoteric faculty lounge debates more than he does protecting Americans from death and mayhem?
It is a pattern in this administration.
They are attacking this president daily, saying that he doesn't have the right leadership in the
face of this, even though he made some serious decisions right out of the gate.
The hate is boiling over, many in the liberal media using, and I mean using, coronavirus
in an attempt to demonize and destroy the president.
President Trump was projecting calm leadership in the midst of all of this coronavirus hysteria
today. I'm just sick of a government that I'm paying for telling me not to worry and just trust them.
I wish I could. But if they repeatedly lie to me, I just don't believe them anymore.
Sounds like the current one.
I'm going to just say this.
I went to the Rayburn House building to a congressional office today,
and the social ramifications of this, the confusion that I saw,
even the treatment that I received there was just, to me, was just disgusting.
I think that there's so much confusion. There's so many people that don't know what to do. There's, you say trust our doctors,
but if the doctor come on and say this, and then the president of the United States come right
behind them and say something different, then you start getting conflicted. Then you start trusting
Google, which is another place that you don't supposed to trust. So I think the problem is,
is the messaging is off, which is like most things that come from the White House.
And I think that there's a lot of conflict around this virus. There's a lot of misinformation
out there. And people aren't Googling and going straight to the CDC website. They're
going to different places. They're going to anything that they can see. And when the first
thing you see, you talk about, you talked a lot about,
you know, we shouldn't believe the president,
but he has more airtime than anybody.
He can reach millions of people in a matter of milliseconds.
You know, this week is the National League of Cities event,
and they had some educated people.
I hats off to Clarence Anthony, the CEO of of National League of Cities for bringing in people like dr. Allen from
the United States Department of Health and bringing in people from agencies
that actually were able to inform and this plea like that officials and
leaders and municipalities to be able to go home and have some types of plan of
action being able to give out one pages being able to give out accurate
information data driven facts to be able to help us to control this.
And I'm in this challenge.
But when you talk about what's coming from the White House, it's the absolute.
This is a complete catastrophe.
And this is wrong.
And I think that I'm with you rolling on this 100 percent that he needs to just.
And Kelly, Kelly, you'll love this one.
So that idiot Charlie Kirk, he tweeted,
now more than ever, we need the wall.
With China virus spreading across the globe,
the U.S. stands a chance that we can control our borders.
President Trump is making it happen.
I explain why this matters and so much more.
Donald Trump responds to his tweet,
going up fast, we need the wall more than ever.
Kelly, do you know how many cases that have not been confirmed in the United States?
Not been confirmed?
That have been confirmed in the United States?
959.
Do you know how many cases have been
confirmed in Mexico?
I want to say three.
It was two?
If y'all do three plus two, you're close.
It's seven.
There have been seven confirmed cases
in Mexico.
Seven.
959 in the U.S.
These dumbasses say, wall, wall.
As if you can't fly over said wall and still be contaminated.
I don't...
No, Mexico should be saying, wall, wall.
Keep your asses over there.
Right.
No, for sure.
I just, again,
the level of misinformation coming from the highest office in the land is not only disconcerting
based off of what we've seen. It's embarrassing because this is our president. He's supposed to
be trusting experts and he's only trusting himself. And it's clear that he shouldn't even
be doing that. So when I see stuff like this,
it's very, very frustrating. It's very frustrating when you have experts out there who are trying to
get the accurate word out, who are trying to contain this, who are doing their actual job
based off of the education and the research and all of these things. And then you have somebody over here tweeting stuff like that,
overriding the experts.
So is the wall the answer?
Well, of course the wall is not an answer.
Okay, but I've got to ask you this here.
I asked you about Larry Cutlow.
CNBC, United Airlines reports 70% plunge in U.S. bookings as coronavirus.
Boy, how about that containment?
Yeah, I mean, well, I imagine that
the federal government would definitely, whether it's, I think it would be in an administration,
they would do their best to calm waters. And as I, well, I'm not even going to repeat what I said
about Donald Trump and what he should do because I've already. Because hell, he won't do it. Because
I've already said that. And he won't do it. As far as I know, like my people in Mississippi,
they're not going to listen to the president.
They're going to listen to their doctor.
My people in Mississippi, they're not going to listen to the.
I'm sorry.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
When you say my people, meaning the people that I know in Mississippi, are they black people?
Well, are they Trump voters?
Well, they're black people.
And the Trump voters that I know are going to listen to medical professionals.
Let me be clear. When I speak, I speak to the populace
that I serve.
And maybe in Moss Point, they will listen to the
president, but the people that I know...
I'm not
disrespecting because you interrupted me.
This is how this works. You interrupted me
before I finished my point.
And what I was saying is...
When you have the CDC and the Department of Health being ignored.
Yeah, we listen to them.
What I'm saying is we don't get the airtime at Moss Point from the CDC and the State Department of Health.
They're playing Trump in Mississippi.
They're not playing the CDC and Department of Health.
So guess what?
So the state officials, your state officials, because how it's working in other states.
My state officials are who?
Well, your state. My state officials are who? I'm saying, so your state officials, because how it's working in other states. My state officials are who? My state officials are who?
I'm saying, so your state health officials.
My state officials support who?
But your state health officials.
The majority of our city supports.
So are you actually saying that your state health officials
are putting out false information to your...
We haven't heard anything from our state health officials.
And that is a problem.
But in other states...
And who are they?
But in other states, but in other states, in other even red states who are actually listening to whether it's their governor, whether it's their mayor, whether it's their.
So what's wrong? The same information that you got today.
So what's wrong with your fellow MAGA supporters in Mississippi, your state?
I'm not concerned about MAGA supporters. So only in Mississippi you're saying that they don't listen to Trump. They listen to their medical professionals, right?
Well, I said the people that I know.
Okay, so how many people do you know in Mississippi?
Well, I was raised there.
I was born there.
Okay, so you know about 10 people.
Let me just be clear with you.
So the likelihood of me growing up in Mississippi, so we can play this game.
So the likelihood of me growing up in Mississippi, knowing people in Mississippi, family being in Mississippi today,
and you're going to Jackson, Mississippi, the capital of the city, not in Moscow.
All right, so what have you seen?
You've already said that your state officials are not giving out information,
which is a problem.
Your state officials, whether they support Trump, whether they support Obama,
whether they support anyone, your state officials should be giving out information to actually help you.
But wait a minute.
One second.
One second.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
One second.
One second.
But how can state health officials be giving the information out when first and foremost, state officials are getting their directions from the federal government. When the federal government, not done.
I am not done.
When the federal government also has failed to properly prepare the states for what is happening.
States were sitting here going, hey, what are y'all doing?
What's going on?
I'm not done.
States were going, what are y'all doing?
What about supplies?
What's happening?
You have all conflicting information.
The problem is that the states that have been able to move fast are the ones that don't have to be so dependent upon federal government.
Let me remind you, Malik, you're from Mississippi.
I sure am.
Okay?
The fact of the matter is Mississippi, more than half of its budget comes from the federal government.
So Mississippi is different from a New York state because they absolutely are going, hey, feds, what are y'all doing?
And the problem is the administration has given such conflicted information.
States are saying, what the hell did we do?
Trump is out here saying, oh, you can get a test.
But there are states that have said what the people are saying. Hey, if you got it, don't
come. We ain't testing you. Go home. Go home. Folks don't know what to do here because they
have bungled this. Final comment. I got to go. The first time that I've actually heard that the
state health officials in Mississippi are not giving you the tools that you need to inform
your population.
Well, first of all, that is actually a problem.
First of all, we got a mayor of a city, so he might know because he's like there.
I said that's an actual problem.
Yeah, that's a big-ass problem.
That the state officials are not giving you the tools that you need to inform your population down there.
That is a problem.
First and foremost, as a mayor, I listen and I take in information, but it's my job to make sure that if I put out anything, that there's a consistence gained.
There should be.
Number one, my leadership and the people that support me, such as my board.
So if we all are not being briefed on that information, and I can congratulate you to say that you're absolutely wrong again, that there is not one time has any state official or federal official came down and said, let's send an email out, let's brief them. Well, I'm not wrong about that there is not one time has any state official or federal official came down and
said let's send an email out let's brief them well i'm not wrong about that i didn't know that
information right but you you spoke on you gave your opinion i said the people that i know in
mississippi which is a difference and what you're saying about what your state officials are not
doing so if we're going to be accurate so factually they should be doing that factually your state
health officials should be helping you inform your population.
At the end of the day, you can say all this stuff, but it comes down to this coronavirus.
When it comes down to this, I've experienced so much fear from people because they don't know.
This administration, these have conflicting information, and they're giving out bad information.
And your state government, too, is responsible.
Our state government, they have not given us any structure information, especially not from the federal government.
That's a shame.
And you sit there and you show me one government that has done a speech that has been consistent with what Donald Trump has said.
Well, we already know that what
Donald Trump is saying is not exactly what the actual medical experts are saying. And they give
a press conference every day about it. Hold on, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. They gave a briefing the other day where they said no video
recording, no audio recording, no pictures. What the
hell? They literally give a briefing
every day. So, I
just said they gave
a briefing to the
medical professionals. How can you listen to the
medical professionals when they say don't record me? Well, they
literally, every single day, I'm watching a
press conference where medical professionals
are actually talking about it. Here's my deal. If you're going to
give a briefing, if you're going to give a briefing, if you're going to
give a briefing, don't say, don't record it, don't have audio video. Kelly, final comment.
The fact that you're saying that the medical professionals should be trusted over our
president is a problem because, again, it should still be a problem because it should be a
streamlined message. I'm going to always trust my doctor.
But the medical professionals aren't your doctor.
They're under the president.
Right.
So it's not your doctor.
Right.
But I'm still going to trust the medical professionals over the president.
Don't forget, the State Department overruled the CDC when it came to those passengers flying back,
and they put passengers on a plane with coronavirus, did not tell the other passengers.
That was the political people who overruled the health officials, the professionals.
Yeah, and I'm trying to explain to you the whole damn thing is a problem
because we got nymphomoeba sitting in the Oval Office.
The problem is that if anybody were watching the show,
nobody would think that anything that
the federal government is doing is good.
What? That's a problem.
No, that's not. No.
Malik, not one of us.
Malik, not one of us said that.
Malik, not one of us
said that. Malik, not one of us said that.
But you said that the federal government is doing this.
No, no, no. Listen, what I said is So what good thing is the federal government doing? Malik... Now, what about saying that? But you're saying that the federal government is failing. No, no, listen. What I said is...
So what good thing is the federal government doing?
Malik, listen. Listen.
Well, I'm just asking you a question. No, Malik, listen.
I am listening. Listen. But you should answer that question.
No, Malik, listen. What I said was...
What is it that the federal government is doing good? Malik, listen.
If the political people would
shut the hell up and allow
Fauci,
allow the head of CDC,
allow the Secretary of Health and Human Services to lead, we'll be fine.
The problem is, when you
send Cutlow out,
which he shouldn't have been, well, I'm not done.
When you send all the people out there,
what happens is, that's conflicting
information. When you send, I'm not
done. When you send Ben Carson
on ABC this week we're gonna
we have a plan to deal with the cruise ships what's the plan I'm the newer
sir what's the plan I'm like so why the hell you said the damn her secretary on
ABC this week I wouldn't have done so guess okay so again why you sending the
whole secretary who's a brain surgeon, on ABC this week?
I don't book them.
But that shows you the incompetent political people.
Well, that's the PR part.
See, here we go.
And all I'm proving to you is the political people are screwing it up.
And that's why political people move your asses out the way to allow professionals. Final comment real quick.
Go.
I'm just going to reiterate reiterate the message should be streamlined.
The fact that it's not is a problem.
The fact that even in the mayor's case where the state budget is 69 percent federal, the reason why they can't get the information out is because the federal government doesn't have the information.
They don't even have streamlined information in the federal government to disseminate to Mississippi.
Thank you. the information. They don't even have streamlined information in the federal government to disseminate to Mississippi such that it's a streamlined message of what to do regarding COVID-19. I'm not sure that's a problem. Because the federal government is even splintered on this
issue because you have the president.
But I'm not sure if that's why state officials in Mississippi—
Okay, bottom line is—
They're not doing their job in Mississippi.
We've already explained what in the hell is going on, and that is the political people
like Trump don't know what the hell they're doing.
And the medical people are being frustrated because these fools have no idea what they're doing.
And they're the ones who are getting in the way.
Let the medical people lead because in a crisis, a medical crisis, that's what you want.
If this was a military crisis, you damn sure wouldn't be letting the medical people make decisions.
I agree.
But guess what?
That's what you get when you got an ignorant fool like Trump sitting in the Oval Office
who you're going to vote for again.
Absolutely.
All right, y'all, and that shows you right there.
And you can have a problem with it.
And all that does is that shows you have no problem voting for him.
First of all, last I checked, Mike Bloomberg is out in the race.
Mike Bloomberg is out in the race.
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