Rooster Teeth Podcast - The Real Election - #622
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Hey everyone, welcome to the receipt podcast.
I'm Gus.
I pressed the wrong button. I'm Gavin.
I'm Brian, a writer for Inside Gaming, Rister T. It's far, uh, most popular channel by far.
John. Um, Gus.
Were you, were you trying to promote a little bit of There No, I had to cough I inhaled some spit and my mute like cough button
And the bleep button right there, but I bleeped my cough instead of me. I don't know
My
My
Huge the bleep in his mouth in an attempt to be quiet you made noise
Exactly and a way more intrusive noise than either coffee.
Probably.
I've got a mini one, Gus, so that both the same size.
The math, the, the one I have is fucking massive.
It's huge.
It's almost a big keyboard over there.
Too big.
Hey, welcome, Brian, your first time on the podcast, like you said, uh, your writer,
you work over on, uh, inside gaming stuff.
Happy you could join us. I can't believe we'd never had you on before. It was like right before I, I slapped you to ask you if, you work over on inside gaming stuff. Happy you could join us.
I can't believe we'd never had you on before. It was like right before I select you to ask
you if you want to be on the podcast, was it a week or two or whatever it was. Eric was like,
hey, we should have Brian on the podcast. I was like, that's a great idea. Why have I never
thought of that before? And then Eric replied, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.
Well, I've been at the company for four years.
So maybe I needed to pay some dues.
And now you're like, this kid's ready for the big time.
And by kid, I mean a 44 year old man.
Yeah.
A fellow old person.
That's right.
Before we, this child Gavin hanging out with his old dudes,
this child.
Before we get too far into the podcast. I do want to remind everyone extra life is this weekend
Well actually it's going on right now
Our stream our 12-hour stream is gonna be this weekend on the 14th
But you can you can donate money now our merch is up there
Show us that poster John
Is it the desk one?
You're a desk. I got a desk. He boy. I got this one. I got I got the day. I got the daytime one. Oh
What's this?
That's some suicide squad
The paintball wall
Is that like a glow in the dark one or some sort of special one people are going on about?
That'll be a limited supply run one
that there will only be a certain number of them.
So if you really want the glow in the dark one,
you gotta be fast.
I guess that's why Jack in our achievement hunt
and Slack was like, let us know
if you want any posters or shirts,
anything except the glow in the dark
And I was like yeah
Yeah, I've also got mugs you can see I got a mug right here. That's extra nice
Something on the other side. It's the moon ball and
It's the moon ball. Yeah, well, I was you seeing a little something your right
I should describe it for the audio you sounded like you didn't know what a moon ball was I know what a fucking
How I've been hitting the nuts with a moon ball. How would I not know what a moon ball? I'm just saying you sounded like it
I got the shirt and also there's a hoodie as well. Guess what is a moon ball? What is a moon ball?
It's like a polyhedrol ball
Someone to college I Went to college for a year. Nice. Then I decided to
hell with that. Wait, Gavin, you have a degree. You don't have a degree.
I'm not God. Now, Brian, do you have a degree? Yeah, in journalism, so not really. Yeah, in journalism so not really. Yeah, we wasted years of our life.
Me and Brian.
Maybe.
Well, at least you're in that field.
We're actually both using our degrees.
I have a hard degree.
Yeah, I write about the news.
Yeah, I mean, mostly it's from other sites, but yeah.
Are you communicating with them now?
I use communication every day, but I have no degree in it. I'm just a really fat, a really big fan of communicating over communicating really if possible.
Oh, yeah, it was a weird time when I was in school. Like the internet was really taking off. I dropped out in 97. So I was like, this is the internet. Right. I was like, I can either finish getting my degree and be done in the year 2000,
or I can drop out now and try to do something on the internet while it's still like kind of the wild west.
So I decided to drop out and try to pursue doing something on the internet.
Because I felt like at the time the real estate, like it was going away quickly, like you had to jump in early.
Otherwise, you weren't going to have as much of a chance.
You were going to lose that head start.
So what did you get done between dropping out and the start of Rucity?
Worked at a call center, then worked IT, but like boring stuff.
It made three different websites, four different websites that were all either extremely unpopular or just mildly unpopular.
Uh, then we made this one.
I was this being like you, it's that people are there, but I can't, I can't like completely
abandon it.
We've, we've, we've got like 3000 people who enjoy who read this.
Like, that's not bad, you know, I,'ve was the same way like early days of the internet, but instead of like starting a
highly successful company, I just became a frequent use net poster on all.
Binaries. Pictures. Erotic. But that not very lucrative, not a lot of money in that.
There were there was a lot of porn. But it must have been an interesting time to be
at the start of the internet because I feel like if I was there for that time, I'd be like,
there's so much money to be made here. How? Like, what? Yeah. Where do I put all the effort? What
was we doing? Yes. Yes. You could, you could, you could tell you were on the beginning of something
big, but you could also tell that you were too stupid
to know what to do about it at all. And like, I knew a lot of hackers and it seemed like
the wild west, like they could just break into things and like, old people didn't know
how to deal with the internet. Yeah, it was great.
Yeah, that's why that's honestly, that's why I moved to Austin. I was like, I know there's
money to be made here, but I need to find other people who know how to actually make the money so we can figure this out
And I need to say me too to this
Right, I'm not gonna figure this out on my own
I need to find a couple other people and hopefully together collectively
We can we can put our brains together to figure something out
I'm just imagine you walk you get to like an internet cafe. It's sick dad. I just being like
just imagine you walk you get to like an internet cafe and sit down and just be like
what's everyone
it's funny you say that when I first moved to Austin I would frequently go to Austin books and comics trying to find other like internet nerds
someone talked to me and they were literally all thinking the same thing and no one would interact
with each other yeah yeah pretty much early days of
internet at school. We would just try to guess who might have a website. So you would just put in
something.com and wonder if there's a website there. Like that was an actual recreation
activity. It's like, I wonder if McDonald's has a website, McDonald's dot, oh my god,
that website. That was like what we did in class.
Remember when Sony had a billboard and it just said Sony.com and we're like, oh my god,
this is the future.
Holy crap, they have a website.
It was like 1995, I think.
I figured out how to download porn from the internet.
Thanks to Newsweek.
I forget what year it was.
Like in 95, 94 and 95, Newsweek ran an article about the internet and year it was, like in 95, 94 and 95,
Newsweek ran an article about the internet
and how it was gonna be huge,
but how there was also the CD underside
because people were posting porn on it.
And I was like, I never thought to look for that.
It's like, they had like a screenshot of like,
net scape loading a Playboy website.
I was like, okay, like I went to my computer
and tried to load like that same website. I was like, there, like I went to my computer and tried to load like that same website.
I was like, there's porn on here. I never thought about that. I was like, thanks Newsweek, you fucking
derailed me. Derailed my internet ambitions for a good six months. Do you remember? I was gonna say,
I remember the first porn website I went to. I remember the URL still. What was it?
AmateurModels.com, which sounds like it should be
a model's website.
It's not.
It was just porn.
We had to go to like the computer lab at UT,
the SMF, because like I didn't have my own computer.
So you would go and you just have to get in line
and log into one.
And one of the first things I remember somebody
seeing is someone
and there was just two pairs of boobs on the screen. And I was like, Oh, there's there's
something to this. That was two, there were two, there were four boobs on the screen. Yes,
he had two separate windows open. Got it. And my, can we swear on this podcast? Oh, absolutely.
Wait, this podcast is 90% swearing. Remember when the early days when there was like a gold rush
to register like domain names, like heetsa.com and stuff.
I had a buddy who was convinced he was going to be rich
because he had registered fucks.net.
I got to go there now.
Hold on.
I don't think anything's there, but he knew he was just sitting
on a fucking gold mine. Oh, no, there's something there. He must have sold it.
It's not its own side. It redirects to another guy. Oh, you can see it in my, the reflection
of my glasses. Can't you never? Yeah, that was those while time. The first web browser,
this is the old man, internet portion of the podcast. The first web browser I used was not a graphical web browser, it was a text-based web browser.
Yes. Yes.
So it's like, I would read the text description of images and be like,
is that one I want to download or not?
You're like, sure, we'll give it a shot.
Do I want to invest this next 30 minutes?
Right. We're tying up my phone line for this.
Because each minute, like you would,
I could download 10, it was 10 kilobytes a minute.
So if it was like a JPEG that was like 60 kilobytes,
it was six minutes a download time.
So you're like, 10 kilobytes a minute.
It's so fucking slow.
I wonder how long it would have taken you
to download Modern Warfare.
That's fucking game.
Between that and Apex on my computer, that's like half my hard drive.
Just those two fucking games.
It's unfortunate with the new generation of consoles that like when there's a huge
leap in the speed of a storage medium, the capacity always goes back down like hard drives
to SSDs, you know, large SSDs are obscenely expensive. And I guess this new type of storage, the model, the series S has
only like half terabyte or something, which is only like 300 and something gigs. Yeah.
It's interesting because the games are smaller though. They claim they're going to be 30
percent smaller because they don't have they don't need the 4k texture packs. Right.
Even though it's a trade output, they do output 4k
in the dashboard. Like you could set a 4k resolution, but the games don't play in 4k. Is it just like a... I think it's upscaled.
Yeah, I think it's a 1080p machine. I don't... The S is not 4k. I don't think for most of. Yeah, so I thought.
Yeah, the S is sole reason is to make the PS5 cheaper. That's the only reason they made it, right? I mean,
Oh, till I drive down the price, you know, right? Wait, I mean, don't get me wrong. It's, I don't
have an S, so I can't speak to it, but it seems like it's a great machine. Like if you don't have
a 4k television, if you don't want to pay for 4k
Gaming if you're playing on an HD 1080p TV why not
I was gonna say yeah, it's like if you don't have 4k and not a lot of people
I mean, it's not super widely adopted. It's the ultimate console because cheap and you got all that backwards compatibility
I think it's I think it's a great little thing
Yeah, I didn't really understand it at first. Yeah, the white one.
That's a kids' game room machine.
You put that on there, you get them game pass, you're done.
You don't have to parent them anymore.
John, you can back me up on this.
Yeah.
That's what you do.
Mine play the switch.
Mine play the switch so much I had to get another one because they just play.
They colonize a lot of Minecraft, a lot of Mario mechanics. I mean, I guess mine played the switch so much I had to get another one because they play.
What do they play?
They colonize a lot of Minecraft, a lot of Mario make up to a lot of, they're really
into Rocket League.
So we play Smash with each other.
A lot of the multiplayer and Nintendo games we play together.
Have you been training them in Mario Kart?
Yes, I don't let them win ever.
Like I never let them, because I feel like once they finally do win and they will surpass
me, but they're not old enough yet, but I wanted to mean something.
So yeah, I'm old school.
And that.
People in chat are saying the S is 1440 P.
Oh, sorry.
Okay.
Yeah.
So thank you.
Who is this?
This is Shadow Player 97.
Oh, and James Davis.
I feel like two of you.
Console resolutions fluctuate all over the place though,
like without you even really noticing.
Oh, right.
A lot of them.
In the game, you mean?
Yeah, like areas of, I guess where the frame rate would drop,
they can just slightly decrease the resolution.
A few hundred pixels and it just happens on the fly.
But you know, if you want to know like the technical details,
you go to like digital foundry and see like their analysis of a game is like,
man, people way smarter than me are looking at this right now.
Like, I'm just going to fast forward to the end where they tell me what to think.
Yeah, those guys definitely had degrees on something.
Yeah.
Like, if I was, I'm trying to think of like my setup here that I used for work,
I'd probably put an S, a series S here because we don't capture or stream in 4K.
Yep.
So that probably be the choice for recording videos.
I know we don't capture in 4K, but it still bothers me.
I have a 4K monitor.
So I still play all my games in 4K, but then on the capture side, I downscale it to 1080,
which I ran into a stupid problem the other day.
And we uploaded, what do we upload?
We uploaded a Phasmophobia gameplay video.
It was a hard mode where we had to play Phasmophobia,
but we only had one flashlight.
We all had to share amongst us.
And my frame rate ended up looking like garbage.
It was like 10 frames a second.
And it's because I installed a new monitor.
My new monitor can do like 140 frames a second, but my capture was 30 frames a second and it's because I had installed a new monitor. My new monitor can do like 140 frames a second
but my capture was 30 frames a second. So it says they didn't line up. The captured, it played
fine for me but then the captured video looked like ass. I've been having where an issue where
because my graphics cards here they don't have HDMI so I think it's the DVI to HDMI process,
break something.
But if some games, if I play in full screen,
are locked at 20 FPS,
if I play in windowed and almost full screen,
then it's 165 frames a second or whatever.
I have experienced that before.
I don't know what scores in that right now.
But it's new, it just started happening in the last like six weeks,
period, weird.
I don't know.
It's all stupid.
It's all opinion.
The ass like everything works.
And then all of a sudden it doesn't.
You're like, what happened?
Yeah, I mean, I was bitching right before we went live.
I was bitching to John that another issue I was having
was my phasmophobia now for some reason whenever I'm trying to capture it it just
starts flickering like it's not a solid signal and I just just before we went
live I realized this problem started when I started playing the beta so now I've
got a after we're done here I got to see if I play normal phasmophobia from
having the same problem or not if it's related to the beta or if it's so
worry if there's something fucked up because I've already changed all my HDMI cables
I've already taken my capture card out and receded it. I've already
tried to reroute every fucking cable every bit of mess under this table
Right, but no it might just be that I selected the beta it might be just a dumb software thing. Well, surely
Go ahead, right and also you're playing a game made by one guy
Who like is trying to fix all these bugs like we don't even know
Is real name. He's like one of these Hentai developer dudes who just goes by
DeNighter and like he just I read an interview with him last week
He thought maximum there would be 500 people on the server playing and then it would drop off after launch day
And so now he's like yeah, I'm gonna have to keep it in early access and fix all these bugs because I had no idea
this would be any kind of hit. Listen, if you're good, if I'm going to be honest, if I'm that dude,
I remain as anonymous as long as possible. Yeah, you don't want your family coming after you,
you know, with requests for money. I mean, no, be the knight or forever. Like those people who win the lottery
and stay anonymous, yeah.
Yeah, I think I've got, yeah, that's,
that's the way to do it.
Why, why do you people,
why isn't the lottery wins anonymous by default?
Like why would people want to come out and be like,
I got it, I got all the money.
Why do you think you got that?
Yeah, come get me, X's.
I think in some states, you can be anonymous anonymous, but in some states, you're right.
I don't know why for privacy protection, you should just be able to disappear.
Remain anonymous. I'm sure you've probably seen photos online of people who go to collect their lottery winnings
and they're wearing masks or bags over their head.
Yeah.
So when they're photographed receiving the money, you can't actually see who it is. I would be like,
Kai's or Jose at the end of usual suspects.
Yeah, like your broad.
Thank you for making that Millennial reference audience
for getting Brian.
I got more.
Yeah, but Brian on Twitter this morning,
Brian was referencing the hostages held in Iran
being released after Carter lost the presidential election.
I was like, that's going to be hip with the kids. That's a quality tweet. They came out, they came out with a cure for COVID
today, right after the election. It just felt like a Ron being like, all right, cool, cool. Reagan
got elected. Yep. You can have the hostages back now. There's something going on. I'm just saying.
Brian, Brian, they cured COVID like they cured AIDS and just didn't tell anybody
about it.
And just like, oh, yeah, they cured AIDS now.
Please don't say things like they cured COVID out loud on a podcast.
They're going to be, they don't have a vaccine.
Stop saying shit like that.
They're still developing.
All right.
It's in the final phases of approval.
It's, you have a vaccine. It's just not right. It's in the final phases of approval. It's, you have a vaccine.
It's just not approved.
It's finished.
Yes, it's finished.
Like you might hate big pharma,
but like this is where big pharma,
I feel like can really.
No, I obviously want big pharma to come through.
Like, fucking do this,
but don't be saying things like
I will think you're a COVID.
If it ain't cure COVID,
you crazy motherfucker.
If it makes you feel any better, like they care more than anything about more than human
life, they care about money.
Right.
And the statement they made was that they could manufacture between 15 and 20 million
doses of the vaccine by the end of the year.
They would not say that if they weren't positive, they could do it because if they fail to
the manufacturer that many doses by the end of the year, they're stock tank or they're stock tanks.
So it's like they have to be pretty confident that they're going to get approval and make
that many doses because if they make 14 million, 99,000 doses, their stocks are going to
lose 10%.
Right.
90% is really high.
Yeah.
That's really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the equivalent of the measles vaccine, they said. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah. It's the equivalent of the measles vaccine, they said. Yeah.
But I feel like big pharma is like basically your big brother when you got beaten up at school
and they're like, oh hell no, only I can do that. That's what they're coming in and they're just
beating some ass. You can't die. I'm going to bankrupt you. No, you haven't paid me enough yet to die.
you. No, you haven't paid me enough yet to die. Before we get too far away from Phasmaphobia, Phoenix Fury and Chat did remind me of a moment from that Phasmaphobia less play that I forgot,
which was you and Chris inside the school hearing a noise and thinking that a ghost was
typing on a typewriter somewhere in the school.
But the truth was I had gone afk to go deal with my kids and you guys went ahead and started
the game and I came back and was standing outside the school with the lighter in the game
and I was just flicking it on and off on and off on and off and you guys and I can hear
you guys going show us a side.
Is that the ghost?
You guys are trying to figure the and so I'm just there's capture of me just
like losing it.
I'm just clicking the thing.
I thought it was a new feature.
They patched into the game.
I thought, Oh, now ghosts can type like the phones or any sometimes maybe there's a typewriter
in a ghost is typing.
That sounds like something spooky that would be in the game, but it was John with a
lighter just making it like making that noise, making us think that there was a ghost typing
And it's not like you're gonna find me doing it because no one had a fucking flashlight cuz I have some mode we were playing
I finally played that game. It's way more scary to play that it is to watch. It's scary
reason it's I've never I feel like some games are pretty scary to watch. That one to me is just like, I guess it's okay,
but playing it is a different thing altogether
for some reason.
It's a...
Well, because you hear it, like it's in your,
I mean, you hear it and it's you moving around.
I guess when you're watching someone play,
you're hearing it too, but you're also hearing the voice.
Yeah, I guess that link to you.
It's also the tunnel vision effect that happens
when you're limited in your view of stuff that can really ramp things up
But I was playing
I was playing Fasma with
Carrie and then Brian Lee who used to work in animation and then
Briya lay who's a twitch streamer and we discovered a mini game inside of it that we found that we love
Which is we just played hide and seek in the game
Where one person was the seeker and the other three would immediately go in the house and we just find spots in the house and hide
All the while the game is playing and if you're on professional it immediately can start hunting you and so we would just be sitting there waiting for the
Hide or the seeker to find us but sometimes the ghost would find us and kill us right in the middle of our game
Oh, the game's like a game's so good
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I'm excited about Assassin's Creed game.
That comes out tomorrow, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I hope so.
I mean, it's been installed for a couple of weeks now
in my Xbox.
I'm just staring at it, waiting for it to become a game that I can use. It's been installed for a couple of weeks now in my Xbox. I'm just staring at it waiting for it to become a game that I can use.
It's like all the ones and zeros except just like missing the last one. Is it a one or a zero? I don't know.
They're like a day of it downloads the last little number to make your your number complete so you can play a game.
Is it impossible to just edit, I guess like hack it so that you can play games early? early. Is it like super difficult to do on Xbox? Do you think?
Well, considering you don't hear about people doing it, I'm gonna say yes.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not in the modding scene, so I don't know how possible that is, but it is insane to me that you can basically give everyone your game and then lock them out of it successfully.
To me, that seems...
Well, I think there's still like a last little bit you have to download on Day of Launch. Normally,
when you're ready to launch, you download another 30 megabytes or something, which sounds
tiny, but that's sizable, you know?
Yeah, it's like if you open a JPEG and notepad and just mess with it a little bit, and
then save it again. It doesn't work, because I think it's ready.
Going back to our earlier discussion about the meat Gus, don't look at porn.
You put a lowercase B in there.
Sometimes the downloads would corrupt,
and it would open up like that, and I'd be like,
I know there's a correct sequence to make this into boobs.
If I just figure out what it is, it'll work.
Like watching scrambled cinemas on Saturday night.
Yeah, I know you know about that Gus come on.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I did that once to avoid what to get away with not doing some
homework at school. My teacher was who was a nobid. I just opened a JPEG of his
face in notepad and then pasted that into the word document that was supposed to
be my homework. And then he was like, yeah, I couldn't open your thing.
And I was like, oh, I don't know what happened.
It was like, it was just like garbled text from the picture of his face and he didn't
even realize he was looking at his own face.
He was looking at his own face in text form.
And I was like, oh man, yeah, I guess I'll give it to you tomorrow.
I don't know what happened.
But it was a tactic that worked back in the day.
Oh, I have to tell you just made me remember
something that happened with something,
one of my kids teacher did this week,
which if chats keep in track, yeah,
we're now finally talking about dad stuff.
So if you really want to mark off your bingo card
of all these old guys talking about certain things,
we're talking about dad things for two seconds.
Oh, yeah.
No, so they're on Zoom calls now
because they're doing remote learning, everything like that. And so at every, they on Zoom calls now because they're doing remote learning everything like that.
And so at every they have Zoom calls today, but the my eldest, she has a final call, 230 in the
afternoon, all of her class meets, they say goodbye for the day, and then they go.
She does her call, and then later that day, we get an email from her teacher, emailing
her, telling her she doesn't appreciate her leaving the Zoom call early.
The stuff they go over and this last little zoom is very important and she gathers all of
this stuff for them to do or go over and then she can't do that.
And I go over to my kid.
I'm like, you went to that Zoom call, right?
She's like, yeah, because I like, I saw her on.
I was like, did you leave early?
And she's like, no.
And mind you, my kid is a fat little liar, that constantly
started to get asked me.
But I did everything I normally have to do to get her to tell me, like, you know, the truth.
And I got to the end.
I was like, I think my kids actually tell the truth on this one.
Yeah.
So the next day, I tell her, like, you need to ask her teacher why she sent that message.
And so she originally asked her teacher if like, you know, it's like, hey, did you say
I left class early because I didn't and her teacher was like, just responds, goes, yeah,
you didn't leave early. So my kid tells me that I'm like, no, ask her why she sent that
message then turns out her teacher sent that to all the kids because some kids left early.
She didn't know who she's just trying to see. She's trying to fish for who did it.
Have you gotten blessed? I just say this a shitty move, don't do that.
That's pretty shitty.
Have you gotten busted yelling at your kids
when they're on a Zoom call you at your school?
Oh, it's my nightmare.
Because between,
because you don't have like,
we all have like stern moments with our kids
or fresh kids.
Oh, yeah.
Just FYI,
if you think that every parent is always just sweet
with their kid or patient, you're full of shit,
we all get upset at our kids and that's just how it works.
But between this whole setup, and then I have one kid in one room who's constantly on
Zoom with her class, and then they have the other one in like the kitchen area.
So she can have some privacy because I have a tiny little apartment.
So my entire house is just streaming to somewhere at all times.
So I'm just constantly worried about hot mics and live cameras and everything like that for everything.
Yeah, I got busted like running in like who left the bathroom towels on the floor without and then I
They're like pointing like
All right, we're gonna talk about this later, but it's like that Scottish woman
busting in and yelling at her kids, but not flushing the shit away. Yeah, they do that all the time. They are
disgusting. That Scottish lady was right on the line. Mine, mine finished to it like, yeah, it's crazy how early they finished,
because mine finished one time at like two 30 and they're like, do I do now and I'm like I don't know go do
So we have a rule like you got to do an hour of exercise before you're just a piece of shit in front of the TV
But still like an hour to exercise a day that's more than I get so
Haven't exercise a little extra for you be like you can do it extra five minutes for me
It'll add up. What a little for daddy's heart on there. Yeah
extra five minutes for me. It'll add up. What a little for Daddy's heart. Yeah. Yeah. The other size is important for my brain. I've discovered. Yeah. The other day. I
release chemicals. I felt like I forgot what day it was. Might have been Saturday.
Sunday. I don't remember one of the one of the days this weekend. I was so
sedentary that my leg started hurting. I was like, oh man, I need I need to get
up. Like I need to walk around a bit. This whole last week, I was just glued to news, right? With all waiting on
the election coverage, I was staying up super late every night, waking up super early every day,
trying to see if there's any news. I'd come and I'd work for a bit and just immediately news.
So I was like, I think it all caught up to me with this past week. And I was like, so I started just standing up
and like pacing around, like doing laps in my house
just to try to like to avoid the atrophy.
Right, keep some level of activity going.
Yeah, and once you hit a certain age,
you're like, am I gonna lose this leg?
Like is this is a sit for that?
Well, okay, I can still play video games.
It's gonna be okay, but I don't want to just hobble
around like Long John silver or something.
I had that with my left ankle last week.
I guess I've been sitting on it a bit and it got sore for like two days.
I was like, is it my, Michael always gonna hurt or is this just like a temporary thing now?
Yeah, worst case scenario immediately.
Is this, is this the norm?
I've got a new pain and that's for life.
Yeah, or it's fake, you know, it's probably cancer.
Yeah.
Is that what your brain goes to with any?
Mine did that in my 20s, so it only got worse.
Like right now, yeah.
Yeah.
When I had, I had bersydus a couple of years ago and like that day, like it's called,
like a little bursa sack in my elbow, like burst and it made my elbow swale to like the
size of a potato.
And that day, like it started, my elbow started hurting that day and my first thought was,
I have elbow cancer, something.
I think I even tweeted like, that's it.
My elbow hurts.
I think I have elbow cancer.
And like, of course, to the day, it just like inflated to the size of a potato.
It's like, oh no, that's precise.
I really, I really like the, you take a pen to the size of a potato.
A vegetable that could be any size
New potato a sweep it up. Yeah, could have been a new potato
I had a cat bite my hand one time and like the fang went through it
You can't really see it on camp, but there's like a little hole in my hand.
Oh, it's swell.
It swelled up like a boxing glove.
It was the most painful, like a cat bite is the,
like I had to get on like serious antibiotics
because they were like, oh no, you, like we really need
to fix this or you might die.
Yeah, so I had the same thing exactly with the cat bite
where it's like my, my thumb just started to die. Like. So I had the same thing exactly with the cat bite where it's like, my, my thumb just started
to die.
Like all of this game was dying off.
And I was like, is this like some sort of net grow, like, dumb, it was like a massive issue
for ages and eventually I'll grow back.
But it was like, whatever they have in their mouth, like nasty cat bacteria, it like spreads
pretty far from where they put the, yeah, and I and I still like it's mainly in my thumb where he
Like rectil and there's still a thing that will never show up on camera
But he also bit this part of my hand which if the skin is just different now it like
Pepechley like a hard scar that sometimes I knock it and it's like it opens into a new wound. You know
What doesn't do that?
A dog.
My dogs have never turned on me and bitten my hand
and caused my thumb to die.
My dogs, they just love me.
Just throwing that out there.
There's another animal.
There's another wild animal that's acceptable
to have in your house.
Yeah, I mean, there are dogs that will do,
that will wreck your shit though. Yeah, dogs that killed people.
Yeah, you're going to put it in a two-year-old.
It's not going to be a good situation.
Just get a cat size dog like I have.
They know they know they're small.
Hey, Gavin, have you ever stood outside with your cats wishing that they would go poop
while you're cold outside maybe in the range?
Is wishing they would hurry up and go poop?
No.
No, okay. No.
No, okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I do like dogs.
I do like the affection of a dog.
But I can argue both sides because I've owned both
and I'm out of love.
I don't like the constant dog smell.
You wash a dog.
It smells good for about four hours.
Then it's back to just, it smells like dog in here again.
Yeah, I feel lucky because Benjamin does not shed, so I don't have like dog smell everywhere.
As long as you know, you obviously be diligent about cleaning up, like he doesn't leave fur everywhere,
so there is no dog smell. What about Oswald? Oswald does shit. So we have to be very
diligent about about cleaning that up. We had Benjamin by himself for years though.
Oh yeah. Okay. My dad's a big dog person like he always has dogs. He's really into like
standard puddles which are those like giant those big ones. Yeah. But I think my philosophy on
dogs is you might as well raise a kid because it's the same amount of care,
but you're not gonna be able to guilt a dog
into taking care of you when you're old.
You can do that.
That's like a retirement plan with a kid.
Yeah, I think that's why a lot of people have kids.
That's like the thing, when my wife and I decided
we weren't gonna have kids,
like some people would say,
well who's gonna take care of you when you're old? Like, people that I pay with the money I save
from not having kids?
Is that like an okay option?
Can I say this?
Yes.
Yeah.
And probably we'll do a better job
in an I-roly 20 year old.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do like the other kids being like,
something that vests over time into something.
And you're like, oh yeah, this is something. They're calm down.
Interest. Yeah.
You really got to put in the time and it's like a it's like a it's like a retirement fund.
You got a feed.
Yeah, like I already plan on bringing up like remember when we played Smash Ultimate together.
Like you need to now you need to change my bad pan every day. So. I can.
Oh, if you have something guys, I was going to say John someone in chat was asking if you're
still fostering a kiddies and I told him that Charles and Eric got forever homes.
Yeah, they went to their forever homes together on Tuesday.
So they're new.
I mean, it was sad, but I mean, I went into this with the mentality that I was doing this for a certain reason.
Even talking with Hannah, I helped continue to put it into words that that, that, you know,
sometimes you need even your own thoughts, put into words that help you process your feelings.
And Hannah was did a very good job of that for me.
But I'm prepping these guys that I'm fostering to help the shelter because the shelters
are always overrun.
They always have too many cats.
And so if I don't foster them while we find a wait for a forever home, then a lot of
these cats, they got shitty existences ahead of them.
So it's that, and then I'll just like,
the Hannah phrases, we have, of course,
her sweet mind thinks of this way.
She's getting someone's new best friend ready for them.
And so that's what I'm hoping to do with these guys.
And I was sad to see them go on Tuesday,
but I'm also someone who's still
is it ready for like always having a pet
and watching a pet age and die.
I'm not ready for that still.
So this is the perfect thing for me where I can have kittens.
Like Gavin, you gotta admit,
kitten time is a good time, right?
The hot stuff's a good time.
Now I get kitten time and then I get rid of them
and then I get renewed kitten time with new kittens.
That's refreshing, it's hell.
But what if it becomes your best friend, John?
And then you've gotta give your best friend
to someone else.
I'm sad about it, but I'm looking forward to like being
that person for a lot of needy animals.
And so I actually have a new fosters on their way to me. They're in a different shelter and they're getting transport.
I think tomorrow. So I might have new kitties tomorrow. I might have a pack of three this time.
I read a today I learned on Reddit. I think it was yesterday that I guess if the state of Hawaii
encourages tourists who visit the island of Kauai to check out dogs from the shelter and like spend the day with them out and about
like take them like wherever they're doing their touristy stuff on the island and they give them special adopt me vests.
So it gets them out in front of locals who live there that way.
That's a good idea.
Right. of locals who live there that we see them. Right, it's like so. People don't have to actively go to the shelters.
Like a tourist comes, checks out a dog.
It's good for the dog to go out and, you know, socialize
and go hiking or whatever.
And then theoretically, someone who could adopt it
sees it without having to go to the shelters.
Like, that's a really, really smart idea, especially since it's such an
outdoorsy place that encourages, you know,
the kinds of activities that you would want to take a dog on.
So,
and if you were,
what if you were an endorecy person and like,
you're like, no,
I just wanna stay in and play video games all day.
I just live in actual paradise,
but the PS5 is coming out this week, so fuck it.
Are you, are you going PS5 over Xbox?
Yeah, I think so.
All right, now the, like5 of Xbox? Yeah, I think so. All right.
Now, like all the Xbox games are like backwards compatible stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's just a better game pass machine at this point.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't know.
I feel like there's a little bit more.
The demon souls remake, I don't know for me.
That's I love that game back in the day.
So yeah, I want to check.
God of War. It's all the reason you should pick God of War. It's best game ever.
That's great. They're making it seem like playing a lot of gears tactics. You played that?
No, but I love those games. I didn't realize I didn't realize I like turn-based games until I played
Mario versus Rabbids. Oh, I think he's saying this is good.
And I was like, this is really good.
Is that quite difficult sometimes?
I really got a...
I love turn-based games.
Like of all time, that may be one of my favorite genres.
If not my favorite genre of all time.
It's like turn-based tactical strategy games.
That is my fucking jam.
Anytime there's a new XCOM game, forget about it.
Yeah, I gotta go and play some XCOM games, which I think I've played in recordings, like in
videos, but you know, I'm always in like, in a video mode, and I'm not really taking anything
very seriously, but I think I would enjoy those games. And what I like about them the most is that
sometimes it seems as though you're completely screwed. You're like, there's no get out of this.
And then you remember that like one of your dudes has that one ability.
Oh, yeah, flip the entire thing. So you're like, wait, I can do this. And then he can move one further. And then he can get that guy up.
And then it just will like chain reacts into the thing. And it's so satisfying when that happens. And I really, or just really join gay as tactic. There's also the flip side of that. We're like, I've got this in the bag.
This is easy.
Gonna wipe this up.
Then your, you know, your people miss 95%
and can't access all shots.
You're like, what is happening?
Right.
I was that way in fire and close.
Like, yeah, my, my Pegasus night is just wrecking shop
and then here comes the archer on the other side
and just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And it's over and I got
permadeath on because I'm not a casual yeah and you're just done.
Oh in chat techno gosh he said fucking advanced wars for GBA was the shit I've got about
advanced wars.
That's what it's so fucking good.
The best.
Oh man.
I got that game because a pawn shop employee in San Antonio told me to steal it.
I
Used to love going to pawn shops to get video games for cheap and I was down there at a pawn shop in San Antonio
And I saw advanced for his in the glass case. I was like, oh, how much is that and they play I brought it out and put it on the glass case
He's like just palm it and I was like what he's like just palm it. I'm blocking the camera. It's fine. Just take it. I was like, uh,
okay. I know. I was being set up with a total set up. Yeah. I was like, Oh, I just grabbed
it and walked out. I thought something like the first UCD I got was like at a pawn shop.
And my friend that it was BC boys, check your head. And my friend got mad at me
because she was like, that belonged to somebody else
and they had to pawn it because they needed the money
and now you're stealing it from them.
And I was like, okay, but it's still a good album
and it's five dollars.
It's like, you can't beat the money.
They got the money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My car was broken into once in downtown Austin.
And the police couldn't contact me.
Like I guess for whatever, like they,
my window was smashed.
Someone, you know, broken in my car
stole a bunch of stuff.
And they couldn't contact me.
So the police impounded it and charged me for it.
Thank you.
And when I finally like tracked like, tracked my car down
and went to like get it out of the impound lot,
someone had stolen all of the CDs out of my car,
except for, okay, computer by radio head,
because it was still in the stereo.
Like, they stole the face of my CD player,
but they left the CD that was in there,
I was like, well, thanks. I get.
Oh, I was so excited.
And that's a good radio had album.
It's not like one of the weird ones that they released.
Like, you know, but I was so excited because when I went back to like get my car, because
it was park downtown, it wasn't there.
And I thought it had been stolen.
And I thought, oh, because I hated that car.
I was like, thank God. I'll get some insurance money
I can finally buy a better car and then
It found out that it was just impounded and then I had to pay to get it back and then I had to pay for a new window
I thought the socks yet to pay to get back in car the yay
That happened to me that happened to me like I did a week, like hosting at a comedy club here.
And like after the end, it was like the late show on a Saturday.
And I got my 150 bucks for hosting, like this five day, you know, stretch or whatever.
And I was like, cool, I got my money, like it's not a lot, but like it's like two a.m. on a Saturday.
I go in and my windows busted out in my car. And it cost me $200 to fix the stupid windows.
So I lost money for the whole week.
It was the worst shitty.
It's the, they didn't steal anything, but still just to get back to normal, it cost me 50 bucks.
That's the shit thing about like insurance deductibles.
Is that I guess I grew up thinking like, I know someone sucks a brick through that window, it's covered by insurance.
It's like, well, just that window on its own is probably not that we're just
going to have to buy that window.
It's like, you really just mess everything up.
If you just, you just lobbed one brick into every car that you saw,
like everyone would be at a pocket.
It's insane.
Right.
Right.
You just peck him to death. Yeah.
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Don't forget on the PlayStation argument. Miles Morales. Just total
That looks cool. I heard it's not very long, but like I'm kind of okay with that like I'm okay with an eight hour game
Oh, yeah, it's eight to ten hours. I'm totally fine with that. Yeah, same. Yeah, there's sometimes like what was it?
I think it was days gone. I was like I really started playing that game really got into it was like man
this game's going a bit too long for me. I would just trim it down a little bit and I'd be I'd be happy
And I'm not like digging the game is just like my
Time that I have to dedicate to game right to like to finish the game
I wish that you could sit down and like have a mode. Like, will you choose your difficulty?
You could choose your age and be like, I'm over 40.
I don't have a ton of time to dedicate to this.
I still want to know the story.
I still want to get through it.
Can you chop down like the stuff you added to fluff out the time?
Like, you know, a lot of people do that with games.
Like they add like, there's a side mission.
There's these B stories.
Can I get rid of the escort missions and the French
Quas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Should be maybe like 20% into each game.
It should be like, all right, what are you thinking?
You think you that you don't want this to end or you think you'd
let slur the fluff and get going.
And you just take one or the other.
It's just like a hobs the length of the remaining game.
I feel like we should patent this idea.
Then eventually when someone starts doing it, we sue them and make millions
of dollars. Yeah, we can patent troll them. Then eventually when someone starts doing it, we sue them and make millions of dollars.
Yeah, we can patent troll them.
Right.
I think we just brainstorm.
This is why I moved to Austin to meet other people
and brainstorm and come up with ideas
that we could then make a ton of money on.
You just need someone who can execute it.
We just need to find a lawyer now.
So what games have you played where you were sad that they ended?
And you'd be like, I'm all about this.
Give me more.
Oh, Horizon Zero Dawn, for sure.
Yeah, that was good.
Yeah.
Horizon Zero Dawn was a game that I never fast traveled in.
The first playthrough, I never fast traveled
because I wanted that game play to last as long as possible.
I played through it, I think, two more times.
And both of those times, I did fast travel.
But the first time I was like, I want to see everything in this world.
And the legit cool story too.
Yeah, really good.
Really good.
I wonder how much higher level you were because you never fast traveled.
But you surely encountered way more stuff, discover more stuff, killed more stuff than
probably fast travel.
I wonder how many levels you gained just walking everywhere.
And it was, it was always enjoyable.
It was like, I'm just gonna walk down the road
and just see what happens.
I mean, I would ride animals, I guess, sometimes,
but I don't really think that counts.
One thing that did bug me in the game,
it's something that I just couldn't suspend disbelief on
is whatever she would repel fast down something.
She would dive off first and then throw the rope.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
With 100% accuracy every time.
And I'm always like, isn't that very, very risky?
Like shouldn't you just maybe attach it before you do that?
Right before you do.
Especially in a post-apocalyptic world with no hospitals.
I feel like you should be a little more ginger the way you do it.
Yeah, because she ends up doing it like 200 times.
Yeah.
It's like, wow, you really need to nail that 100% accuracy.
Oh, that reminds me the repelling off.
Gus, can I talk about Spider-Man turn off the dark?
Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, God, you saw that.
Okay. So I got reminded of the existence of Spider-Manager
off the dark via something recently.
So I went into just a deep spiral of trying to
figure out everything I could about this, this weird Broadway
show that came out during the new millennium.
So I was on a hike.
And so the first thing I did was I started listening to the soundtrack.
Have you ever heard a single song for Spider-Man turn off the dark? No. It's bad. It sounds like a bad YouTube cover
album. Didn't you two didn't like Bono and the Edge make the music? Yes. So this show was cursed.
It was cursed. Like we all know the stories of like a few of like the accidents that happened
on stage. But like if you go into the history of this thing, it gets crazy.
Can I give you a gun just a brief rundown of the history of the making of Spider-Man
Toronto off the dark?
Really quick.
Please.
Okay.
So it comes out about three months after the Spider-Man Toby McGuire movies come out.
Everyone's horny for Spider-Man and all the superhero things.
Because they worked prior.
Because then because Batman and Robin came out
Everyone's like fuck the superhero stuff is stupid and then told me McGuire saved everything and so they're like we'll make a Broadway show
And it'll be great. So these this big Hollywood producer this guy named Tony Adams. I'm reading notes. I have notes
He's he's a big Hollywood producer, made the Pink Panther films,
the detective ones, the original ones, not Steve Martin.
And he gets him and his little perteche who's just this entertainment lawyer named David Garfinkle.
And they're like, we're going to make this show show and we're gonna get all this group of people to make it.
And so, Anterloid Weber pisses off you two
by telling everybody,
he's glad that Rockstar's left Broadway alone.
So you two goes, we're gonna help make this Spider-Man show.
So they become part of the project.
At the signing of their contracts
with Tony and this other little guy, David Garfinkle and Bono on the edge.
Tony leaves, no, edge leaves to get a pen, comes back in the time it takes him to do that.
Tony Adams has a stroke and dies. They haven't signed a single contract yet.
They're all just there and the lead producer that was making this thing dies there with from a stroke
So they're left with bottom the edge and and this guy who's never made a show before other than like he's been a entertainment lawyer
But they proceed with it and then they get Julie Tamor who made the Lion King, you know the Broadway show Lion King
You remember that very popular? Yeah, they get they get her and then they get this guy named Glenn Berger
Who's never written anything
his life and so they all start making this show. So here's the timeline
2005 they start this whole process Tony Adam dies Garfinkel is the lead producer
all the way up to 2007 the first readings happen finally the budget of the stage show is set to
$52 million which is like twice the size of any other show it's ever been made.
Then, uh, that was just a record in the industry. And then fast forward to 2009,
they still haven't cast anybody. 2009, August, they're millions of dollars short now.
Production stops. They were supposed to open in 2010 and February. And they have to do all
this stuff to this, this theater. They used the same technology from 2010 in February. And they have to do all this stuff to this theater.
They use the same technology from the XFL.
Remember when all, everyone started using those lines
with the cameras on them to shoot NFL stuff?
That's the same technology they used the motherfuckers
to swing around the theater of Inspireman and Green Goblin.
But the theaters weren't meant for that.
The theaters were not meant for this.
So it takes like a million dollars
and permits and everything.
So they can't pay anything.
And so production ends again.
This thing is stars in 2005 and you're in 2009
and it hasn't even cast anybody yet.
So then in 2009, Disney buys Marvel
and they think they're saved money-wise.
But Disney looks at this production
of Spider-Man Trump that doesn't go,
it goes, no, we're not giving any money.
So they get no money from Disney.
So this garfinkle guy pulls money together
from his own company, some investors
and some rich Texas family, and they restart the work.
But then at the end of 2009, Garfinkle gets ousted
who was the only producer that was left on the show.
They bring in a bunch of new producers
and then they cast like this guy for Spider-Man,
they named Reeve Carney.
And the original cast was supposed to have
Evan Rachel Wood as Mary Jane
and Alan Cummings, Nightcrawler from X-Men 2 as Green Goblin.
And so they're back in business again.
But then Evan Rachel Wood and Alan Cummings leave production like three months later
because it's like fucked and the whole production is cursed and they smell like
it in the water,
and they leave.
The first preview of the show finally starts in 2010,
end of 2010, November of 2010.
This is the first preview.
The show starts 24 minutes late.
They're missing set pieces for scenery.
This character who's called a Rackney,
she gets stuck on her ropes in the first act of the show
for eight minutes, eight minutes, she's hanging above the audience.
She's just hanging there above the audience.
And then halfway through act one, they have to pause to help get Spider-Man who stuck swinging down.
And so the audience is watching a stage hands from the side, try to grab his foot as he swings by and keep missing.
The audience was literally making, oh, sounds.
Every time they got close to catching Spider-Man.
This is the first preview of the show.
So then also backstage, second act,
Arachni, this actress who's playing this character in Miracni,
she gets hit by a rope that cut gives her
a concussion and fractures her skull.
And then the same preview. And then the same preview.
This is the same preview. The mission is then the intermission is then 40 minutes long. And they cut the show 10 minutes short because another another
Ariel accident happens. And the audience leaves without seeing the last 10
minutes of the show. That's the first preview of the show.
So that's one of those things where the behind the scenes would
be more entertaining than the show. It was. And it's some director screaming backstage
and some union stagehand like, I'm not going to try to catch Spider-Man anymore. I only
have three grasps in my union. I'll get her. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. Well, then
yeah, they actually kept selling a ton of preview tickets because people kept coming to just see the spectacle.
They weren't coming to actually see the show. They just like they wanted to see what the shit show was. So then more curse happens.
2010, they're still end of 2010. They're still doing previews. A stuntman falls off the stage because he's supposed to jump off to catch Mary Jane. He wasn't tethered in.
And so he literally just leaps off the stage, hits the floor, breaks four ribs, fractures
his skull and another like his like his like his, his, uh, uh, what's this call?
Clavical.
Yeah, your clavical.
Um, yeah, it's, uh, uh, uh, Oshia finds them $13,000 for that.
Uh, they delayed that you think it would be. it's uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh 20, this is 2011. This is 2011. Okay, okay. They've done 140 previews all the while, and then they stop previews.
They hire a new writer at this point who changes a bunch of stuff.
The producers into then get Julie to pay more ousted because they try to get Josh
Sweden to punch it up.
It's funny.
They brought in a writer that we didn't it basically is that what they did they blamed everything on her
Which then she then sues them for defamation and causes the show even more money problems
The premiere of the show doesn't happen until June of 2011
It's had 180 previews, which is more than most shows have ever had ever and then
The critics hate it. It's a terrible show.
I want to say I'm playing a way that you two stuck with it the entire time.
Well, they didn't leave at any point.
No, they were still like connected to it.
And they actually were part of this whole like plot to blame everything on Julie Taymore.
So I've been looking this up.
Paul, you've been talking about it, John,
just because I love details like this.
I love diving in.
I have a whole podcast about, you know, diving into playing courses.
Spider-Man Iran, approximately from November, 2010 to November,
2013, more or less.
In that time, it grossed $203 million,
but it's still lost $60 million.
Yeah, they actually once they find the open.
They opened your game.
Yeah, once they opened, they actually sold out theaters constantly and they actually
broke the week long record of a gross.
They made $22.9 million in a week, which is a record that I don't think has been broken
yet.
And it ran for a thousand performances.
Yeah, imagine how many clavicles they could break for that one.
I remember Glenn Beck giving it a rave back in the day and being like, uh, Spider-Man, it's
actually a really great show. I don't, I'm sorry, the liberal media doesn't like it. And then
it's sort of got weird. Like, I don't know if I want to support this. A Glenn Beck likes it. But
yeah, it was a weird like, you know how sometimes that
whole group like gets behind something and that's that's what it felt like. Yeah, it closed
January of 2014 is still the most expensive Broadway show ever. The closest one does even
can close and it's King Kong that would come out in 2018 had half the budget. Hamilton just for
reference was only $12.5 million. The actual production cost of
Spider-Man was $79 million. Jesus. Why not just make a Spider-Man movie at that point?
It's $79 million. That's what it was. Right. But this is better because it wouldn't be
a play. Yeah. This is the bonkers last thing I'll talk about.
Tamar, this is made three months after Spider-Man, the first Sam Raimi.
Sam Raimi Spider-Man comes out.
Everyone knows Spider-Man's origin at this point.
Julie Tamor decides to change his origins for the Broadway production.
That's like, he ongoing joke.
It's like, we don't have to hear that story anymore.
What did a spider climb up his dick or something?
Like, what's the...
Late eggs, it is that difference. Yeah.
Oh, that explains where the webs come from.
I'd say you went with the organic wave.
Not the mechanical.
He ejaculates them all over us.
Yeah.
So what's the key now, right?
I mean, he's probably whipping it up constantly.
What was the new origin change to?
So, she creates a brand new character called a Rackney
who is literally the Greek goddess of spiders.
Oh, God.
A Rackney then makes this mutant spider.
He goes to the thing where like Green Goblins
like showing stuff and or what's his name?
Green Goblins alter ego real name. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no So the movie Peter that does go and try to beat up Bonesau, which he does to impress Mary
Jane, who's dating Flash Thompson.
So then on the way home from getting his winnings, he sees Flash Thompson going into MJ's
house, a robber steals Flash's car.
Peter decides not to chase the robber who steals the car.
Uncle Ben chases the guy who's still in the car and gets run over and killed. And
so Peter sees this. So then, Arachnie shows up. Arachnie gives him his costume. He has gifted
his costume by the Greek goddess of spiders. And then he's Spider-Man.
Okay.
The end. See. There's like some porn.
When we were talking about how the origin story was different
in chat, Phoenix Fury suggested that maybe Peter Parker
should have bitten the spider.
Oh, that would be good.
So Uncle Ben just got run over by a car.
Yeah, he does.
That's from that.
He made me go shop at a car driver.
I did. did great power.
Come.
Yeah.
She also.
Well, she also created a brand new villain in it.
The sinister six are in the show.
So that's like like a scorpion and rhino and carnage and all that kind of thing.
But she creates this villain that's called Swiss Miss.
Like the chocolate?
Can you guess what Swiss Miss is?
Like theme is.
Coco.
Lauren Banky counts.
But it's poison, Coco.
Lauren Banky.
She's all like Silvery and has a bunch of knives.
She's like, she's like, some sort of like, and she spins and like cuts you.
Yes.
Oh, the most terrifying of all the helpful knives.
We listed off all the other Swiss things, but forgot about that.
Yeah.
And that's my.
It's your Ricola when you have a script. That's my score to my. That's my score to my. Ricola's, Ricola when you have a recola.
Recola's recolas are awesome.
Recola.
Oh my God.
Laps as the kids would say.
Dude, I remember starting at Rooster Teeth and it was in the winter and you all had like
a big free thing of recolas like in the playroom.
I was like, this company's doing really well.
Like I made it.
I got made it.
I never had one.
They're good.
If you ever ever sort of throw it recommended.
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Him getting run over Uncle Ben reminds me of I come of which Superman movie is.
I want to say it's man of steel where Superman's dad doesn't want him to reveal himself as
Superman. So he lets himself get killed by a tornado. Oh right. But in reality, he's Superman.
He could have just run, it saved him and run back before anyone knew anything had happened.
Why did he just watch his dad get crushed by a...
And even if they saw, they wouldn't believe what they saw.
Yeah, or just run and keep running.
Just piss off into the distance.
Just go all the way around the globe and come back.
Yeah, all the way.
Yeah, all the way.
I feel really fast around the tornado backwards,
you know, reference to the first Superman movie.
My favorite part of that scene is that the whole scene prior to that where he's talking to his dad in the car and they're arguing about like he wants to use his powers and that kind of thing.
And, and then the Trina happens is all the while they're trying to sell Henry Cavill as his 18-year-old
boy, he's the size of like a Mack truck. I was watching the karate kid.
Like there was nothing to watch last night.
I was, you know, I wasn't quite tired.
I wasn't ready for bed.
I was something to the TV channels.
And the karate kid was on.
It was right at the beginning.
I was like, oh, I haven't, like I rewatched,
or I'd watched Cobra Kai recently.
I was like, oh, it's been years since I watched the karate kid.
I should put this on.
So start watching the beginning of the karate kid.
I could probably go on for a long time about the karate kid,
but specifically the one thing that stood out to me when I watched it last night was,
you know, Ralph Macho looks really young. I was like, God, you know, how old was Ralph Macho
when the karate kid came out? Does anyone want to take a guess? You know, Ralph Macho, the
main character of the karate kid, how old do you think he was when the karate kid came out? He was
a high school, he played a high school kid,
moved from Jersey to California, met a Japanese handyman
who taught him karate.
He looked this up and it's older that like 28.
Yeah, I think I also looked it up because I thought,
man, this kid's young looking and I think it was like 24
or something.
Because Elizabeth Schoo like towers over.
Yeah, he does.
He was, he was,
how old is he?
He was 23 when that movie came out.
And he,
that's the always do though.
Yeah, he looks like he looks like he's 14.
Like normally he does.
No, he's tiny looking.
Yeah, normally they cast someone older, you know,
so they can get around, you know, trial labor laws.
But I was like, he looks like the part, he looks the age.
I think he was older than William Zabka, who was Johnny, but Johnny looks like he is 10 years
older than Dan. He looks like a frat dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that was a, that's like the same thing with Tom Welling for smallville. He was playing
like a junior year Superman. And he was like like 23. He and also ginormous.
Well, the classic, the classic where it was the old school Beverly Hills 90210, when
all that cast like Andrea was, I think, 30 and playing high school and Luke Perry was like
no spring chicken himself. Yeah. I remember that mess with my brain because I was already someone who was,
I didn't hit puberty until they shoved testosterone to me when I was 18.
So I already looked like I was like nine in my school and then I was watching
shows like that.
And I was like these, what am I?
Is some sort of freak?
It was it really fucked with me.
I remember thinking that the guy who was menopied like a 17 year old school kid in fast and furious Tokyo drift. I remember just
sitting down and watching the movie and thinking like this guy is like 30. This is not like
he should be in school. That is some strange casting. But I say that for us, macho, he
sells it. That looks like a high score.er. Yeah. No, he absolutely does.
Yeah.
It's interesting that that movie took off
to such a degree that they're still making,
I guess, they're making Cobra Kai, right?
They're making stories based off of that universe.
Cobra Kai is great.
By the way, if you haven't watched, you should absolutely watch.
It's like bad good.
If you love cheesy Aedes movies, like, oh, like. It is porn if you grew up on that. They you watch it. It's like bad good. If you love cheesy 80s movies,
like, oh, it is porn if you grew up on that.
They fucking nail it.
And there's a great sequence in that.
I forget which season it is.
It's probably, I've had to guess it's season one.
There's a great sequence in Cobra Kai
where Johnny's telling his student,
his perspective of what happened during the karate kid.
Yeah.
He's like, yeah, we had a fight on the beach in the summer.
Then I didn't see the kid again until October. And you know, he dumped water on me.
I chased after him, then like his karate friend showed up and beat us all up.
Well, there was that whole YouTube video of Daniel's actually the bad guy feels like they really did like
base the whole series off that. But like it's fantastic. I love it so much.
It's like wicked. They have two more seasons that they've
greedled. I think that are in production. I'm sorry, John. What did you say?
I was just saying that the whole like different perspectives is like wicked.
How they they told the story of Elphaba from a different perspective and
yeah. Dorothy's like the bad guy. Yeah. like wicked, how they they told the story of Elphaba from a different perspective and yeah,
Dorothy's like the bag guy. Yeah. A lot of people in chat saying that Rizzo and Greece was much older.
Oh, that's the role. Stalker Channing. Yeah. That is, that is a relevant. That is a super deep. That's a deep cut. I feel young now. Yeah. I was like, wow.
Probably must be a really good after you learned reference in Greece and chat. Do you all remember? Did you all watch Superman
two? The one where he lost his powers and gave it up. And I remember going to my
cousin's house and we watched it. And but there's that great payoff at the end
where he gets his power. Oh, yeah. And and and he goes to see Lois and
you know he's Superman again and and they made in the cafe. Yes and then he goes to the cafe
and and there's the guy who beat the crap out of him earlier and then he's like excuse me
sorry I believe you're in my favorite seat and the guy comes over and he just like kicks a crap out of him.
Like, you know, throws him into a pinball machine or something.
And my mom came to pick us up and she asked my aunt,
like, well, what do they do?
And my aunt goes, well, they watch Superman
and they fast forward through all the kissy part
so they could watch Superman go deck some guy in a ball.
Yeah.
Is that the movie where he throws his logo at someone?
Yes.
Yes, it was the, and it had all the evil, it had Zod and all the bad,
like that was the best.
Oh, yeah.
Terence, Terence stamp was odd.
Yeah.
Was, was Richard prior in three?
Three.
Yeah.
I think I haven't seen four.. For the nuclear weapons one, right?
The solar. Yeah. Yeah. I have not seen three.
I've not seen the Richard. I've seen four with the guy.
Someone with the bad guys some robot, right?
At the end, is that three? Yeah. Yeah. He's created
oh, eight in three. Doesn't he fight a robot?
I don't know.
Oh, later it gets stuck at the end of three and like turned into a robot.
Kind of like a neat.
I think I know what you're talking about.
And there's a weather machine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just typed into Google does Superman fight a robot?
At some point, yes.
Yeah, it's happened.
I can see a lady of cartoons and comics where Superman fought a robot. So that's not a very good question. Here is another reason I've just
thought of why it was done for Superman to watch his dad get eaten by a tornado. A tornado is like
cold and hot air mixing, right? He could do both of those things. Connie, Connie breathed cold
and he could like use his eyes to make hot. He could have just looked at the tornado and canceled it out.
So another reason.
Really, really, our decision.
I actually really, really like Man of Steel,
but that is one of the dumbest scenes ever.
He could have thrown his logo at the tornado.
He was super man.
Yeah.
Maybe he was young as the argument that he was young
and like didn't know what, like he didn't have a full grasp
on his power side.
I don't know.
I'm reaching it's draws.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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I haven't watched it yet.
I'm going to watch it right after the podcast and check it out for myself.
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Yeah. Did you guys play GTA and TTD? Yeah, we did, keep it fresh.
Yeah, we've been, we've been trying to play different.
We've been, we've been trying to play all kinds of games,
you know, over with the stuff that we do,
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It's like, that's all I want to play all the time.
Can I, can I read this comment in the chat
that really made me laugh? Bayno 9 said said Henry Cavill is one of the only men that I would literally want to step
on me specifically as Gerald. They spelled Gerald wrong. It's good.
What is that? Gerald, Gerald, Gerald, step on me. Gerald. They're making, they've got to
be making more of that Netflix show, right? Oh, yeah. Is there any news like that delayed because of COVID or something?
They, they went in production.
They, they adopted the, uh, the bubble technique pretty early on.
Yeah.
Caval's been posting picks of him on set.
I've been thinking about how crazy this year has been.
And it's like that, that Witcher show was at the beginning of this year.
We were all excited like
Yeah, that was like January 20th. Shit. God.
It hasn't even been a fucking year since that happened.
This year has been the longest year ever.
So I'm aging right now. This is a legendary year. Yeah. Yeah.
You rank up you rank up a few years for this one.
Yeah. So I'm still surprised that they were able to get the Mandalorian season two out, you know,
relatively on time right like a year after season one came out. They launched season two of that.
It's pretty good so far. It's pretty good. There was a, yeah, there was a like a weird plot
inconsistency in this last episode that I that really drove me crazy
I can't stop thinking about is it okay to like oh I haven't watched it. I haven't watched it
Okay, like something happens at the end of that episode that story
No, no, it's fine. I'm not gonna say it but story why something happens at the end of that episode
I'm like why did that happen that doesn't make any sense? Yeah, which episode just so I know when I watch it
Episode two of season two of the Mandalorian.
Because they only have two out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Three comes out this week.
Look at me wrong.
I still enjoyed it.
I still like having the Mandalorian.
It's a show I look forward to.
I'm sorry, the baby Yoda show.
It's a show I look forward to watching every week
when new episodes come out.
So I don't want to sound like I'm hating on it. It's good show, it's good show.
I love that the first episode
leaned into the Western themes like Times 10.
It's just a space Western, I love it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, I like it better than all of the first,
the latest three.
I think it's been,
but it's like having shoulders better than those.
Yeah, as I watched, I rewatched all the season one,
leading up to season two, and it's like,
it's a good show.
But it's like, they did this in season one,
it's like, you have the whole universe to explore,
and you end up back at Tatooine.
Right, right, right.
It's like they can't get away from it.
They can't, and yeah, there's a whole galaxy.
Like all the worlds, all the things to go, at least like they're introducing, you know,
different alien races and different stuff. Like, it's not a spoiler at all, but in this most
recent episode, there was like that scene with that character called Dr. Mandible. It's like,
I have no idea any of Dr. Mandible's backstory, but I want to watch a Disney plus Star Wars show all about Dr. Mandible.
I thought that way about Werner Herzog's character.
Yeah, and I think he said like in an interview, he's never watched a Star Wars movie at all.
He just, I guess they just paid him to be himself, but it was fucking awesome.
It's about to hunting, is it?
It's a complicated profession.
A fucking love that.
Yeah, it's awesome.
All right, well, let's go ahead and wrap this up just a little early just so that John
can go watch the next episode of the Mandalorian and I can talk about the ending with him.
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