Rotten Mango - 16 Yr Old Boy Caught Hunting Kids On Roblox & Running Biggest Child Torture Cult

Episode Date: September 7, 2025

July 4th, 2023 a 19 year old guy from Brazil, named Pedro, goes viral. Pedro’s got a bob. He’s also just been arrested for child endangerment and is somehow connected to another group in Brazil t...hat was arrested after planning to attack a Lady Gaga concert. They wanted to go there, kill everyone and perform satanic rituals and sacrifices for everyone to see. Then a 14 year old in Sweden gets arrested for attacking a woman with a knife.During his arrest the only statement he makes is, “terror is not about age.” In Australia a 28 year old man gets arrested.In Romania, another teenager faces arrest after making 450 bomb threats to schools, hospitals, and government entities in the US. Is this a butterfly effect? Where one persons actions set off a chain of events that set off another persons actions?Is this some sort of trend?How are they all connected? The FBI defines this organization as a terrorist extremist group.They call themselves the 764 cult. Run by a bunch of teenagers in their parents house…   Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this is how they say a zombie apocalypse starts it's kind of like the movies by the time you hear on the news that this new virus is spreading that's causing people's brains to turn into neurogello neuro pudding it's too late you need to notice the early signs things that don't seem connected but they're all interwoven together it's the coffee shop glitch theory you think you're the problem you walk into your local coffee shop you're Rista has dark circles under her eyes, you think it's big coffee's fault. They're overworking her, but she actually says she's been taking time off. They've been letting her get extra vacation days because she's been so exhausted, which is strange. But that day, she gets your order wrong for the first time in three years. But not only that, when you go to ask for a change in the milk, you see five other people lined up asking for changes for their regular coffee orders. Everybody's coffee order is wrong. Then you see one customer ordering an espresso shot. Then circling back to the front of the store, glancing at their phone looking around,
Starting point is 00:01:04 and then shaking their head, walking back in line, and ordering an espresso shot. And then when they walk away from the line, they shake their head and they look confused, and then they walk back into the line and order another espresso shot. They forgot that they've ordered, so that they just went in a loop three times, ordering the same espresso shot. What the hell is going on in this coffee shop? Another barista is just staring at the wall blankly. while hot coffee pours down the cup into her hand. And so after grabbing your coffee that you normally don't like because they got it wrong, this is the wrong order,
Starting point is 00:01:38 you want to visit your family members who's in the hospital. You drive up to the parking lot thinking, okay, the craziest thing is going to be the astronomical price for parking. Is this the price for an x-ray? That's the price for 30 minutes of parking. But this time, when you get to the front entrance of the parking lot, it's blocked. It says parking lot full. You park across the street, you run over with your,
Starting point is 00:01:58 now cold coffee and you are told no visitors allowed for anybody. Then who the hell are all those cars that are parking in the parking lot? These are the first initial signs of a zombie apocalypse. Everybody has mental fatigue. Everybody has brain fog. Nobody can get anything right. The hospital is randomly full of cars, but they're not allowed visitors. Everything is hush, hush. By the time you see any news of a virus going around online, it's probably too late. That's what they say. I'm not really like a doomsday prepper, so I'm not really sure. But that's what the Redditors say. It's the coffee shop glitch. All these things that seem unconnected, unrelated events are actually connected. Such as this. In Romania, a teenage guy named Toby is on the phone with his friends.
Starting point is 00:02:46 He sees an elderly woman walking in front of him. He's glancing around and he's talking to his friends. I'm going to do it. One of his friends responds, do it then. Do it. The camera starts shaking like one of those found footage movies and you hear him running up towards this elderly woman knocking her onto the ground and then you hear a collection of very strange noises. A hissing noise like hairspray stomping noises. Then something that sounds oddly like the air being whipped around followed by small bubbles. Like a jet machine for a hot tub but like slightly gurgling. He just pepper sprayed stomped on and slit the old woman's throat. Then in 2023 a 19 year old guy from Brazil named Pedro goes viral. He's got a bob. His eyes are half shut. And there's a video of him.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Like literally, him and his bob, his eyes are half shut. It looks like he woke up from a three-hour nap that entered the fifth dimension. The video of him is being arrested while reporters are swarming around him, just trying to get an idea of why he did this. He has this perpetual smirk on his face, which seems to piss off a journalist who asks him, how do you feel being a disgrace to your family? Pedro whips around mid-arrests and says, could you have some more professionalism, please. Then a 14-year-old in Sweden gets arrested for attacking a woman with a knife. During his arrest, the only statement he makes is, terror is not about age. Then in Australia, a 28-year-old man gets arrested, seemingly all connected to the previous arrest. A 16-year-old in the United
Starting point is 00:04:15 States gets arrested, and they're all connected to each other. Is this the butterfly effect where one person's actions set off a chain of events that set off another person's actions? Is this some sort of trend that's going on, how are they all connected? It's not a zombie apocalypse. It's not even the beginnings of one. It is the 764 cult. One of the organizations that the FBI have reported as being a terrorist organization run by a bunch of teenagers in their parents' house. We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support NECMEC, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They are the nation's largest and most influential child protection organization.
Starting point is 00:05:16 They have a cyber tip line. It's a platform for reporting child sexual exploitation. And their new Take It Down campaign is a free service to help remove non-consensual intimate imagery from online platforms this episode's partnerships have also made a possible to support our growing team and we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support as always full show notes are available at rotten mango podcast.com a few disclaimers today's case involves really i mean pretty much every difficult topic that you can think of it's going to be in this episode there's going to be mentions of blackmail extortion doxing swatting hate groups animal cruelty injuries to
Starting point is 00:05:50 yourself, terrorism, the distribution of CSAM, I mean, your mental health is the priority. Oh, there's heavy mentions of self-exit, people saying things to encourage self-exit. So please, please watch. There's a lot of graphic imagery as well. So please watch at your own discretion. If you need to take a break, it's going to be, it's going to be quite heavy. So with that said, let's get started. A guy named Samuel is crouched down.
Starting point is 00:06:18 He's like trying to set up his phone so that. he can record himself. He's wearing a white hoodie and his hair is peeking out from the hoodie sides. And it doesn't seem like it's heavy enough because it's currently snowing outside. It's a rather thin white hoodie. Once the phone is propped up on the ground, it's just standing upright on the ground, probably leaned against a rock or something. He sits down in front of it, crisscross applesauce on the pavement, pulls out a plastic water bottle. But it's definitely not water in there. I mean, it looks slightly yellow, which could just be flavored water, but then you look at the consistency because he's moving it around in the video and it just seems noticeably thicker.
Starting point is 00:06:56 He opens up the cap, pours it all over his hood, his clothes, his hair, his face, and he smiles at the camera and says, I'm going to taste the antichrist. And he pulls out a small plastic tube, click, he lights himself on fire. it's instant his entire body is engulfed in flames every visible part of his body is on fire his hair is singeing off body parts are slowly getting charred he's moving around a little bit likely due to the sheer pain in the beginning until he ends up flat on his back on the pavement his arms are slightly outstretched into the air flexed and that's when eventually after minutes he stops convulsing in pain it takes like four minutes before he's dead
Starting point is 00:07:45 But he's gone now. That's the gist of what Sam's mom knows. Her 25-year-old son went into an isolated area, poured gasoline on himself, and burned himself to death, and he filmed it all. That is what the police told Sam's mom. He set up the camera to record himself. Why would he do that? They don't know. They don't tell her. Self-immolation is typically a form of protest. Sometimes it's protesting a country, a system, or in a lot of cases, when little girls are forced into huge age-gap marriages, aka morally-based, bankrupt contracts. They might commit something like this to make their family members feel the highest level of guilt possible. It's to draw attention to a cause or to something. And maybe this worked a lot in other countries or perhaps in the world. And I'm saying this as a discouragement, but it doesn't really work as well anymore because the new cycle is so fast and ever-changing. Nobody even really pays attention much to people who light themselves on a fire for a cause. but that doesn't seem to be the case for Samuel. It seems like the method was chosen for how easy it is
Starting point is 00:08:48 to get the materials necessary, but also because it's just visually very startling. One nurse says, I worked with a patient who self-immolated or tried to. These patients, if they survive, they require a multidisciplinary approach to optimize their healing while addressing their mental health. We're not just treating burns.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We're treating profound despair. It is probably one of the worst ways to go. And the video of him, doing that, lighting himself on fire, does start circulating on Discord. And it would not be for a really long time before Sam's mom knows what's on that video, because it's not just a video of his passing. There's so much more to it. It's not a video that he recorded and was saved onto his phone. It was a video that was a live stream.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And there are people talking as Samuel is self-exiting. To detail one of the most disturbing videos on Discord, which is kind of saying a lot. And it's not disturbing because not only does it capture him convulsing on the floor while completely swallowed up by these angry red flames, but because there are at least 29 people watching this live stream talking to him on this Discord server. They're not calling the police. They're not calling for medical help so that they can save him. They're laughing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And they're laughing, we did it. This is so funny. That's the worst death possible bro. Fuck yeah, go 764. but the most jarring portion of the Discord live stream is where you hear this very young, very soft voice. A 15-year-old girl who is the mastermind of all of this. She shouts, shout out to fucking 764.
Starting point is 00:10:21 There are so many global operations trying to take down 764. The US, Canada, there's 16 separate European countries participating in them. There's Operation Dark Rooms, Operation Discordia, Operation Autumn Shield, Operation Restore Justice. Every single country seems to be fighting it. And it's all because of Fight Club. That's how it starts. The Fight Club to Insel Pipeline. Fight Club is a novel turned movie written by Chuck Pollanick.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's a classic, which is technically supposed to have a lot of deeper messaging about consumerism, capitalism, and toxic masculinity. And Chuck Pollanick is a fantastic writer. But the insoles have taken it and decided that this is going to be their Holy Bible. And I don't even think it's their Holy Bible because I don't think they know how to read. I don't know if they're literate. They just watch the movie and act like they understand the depth of it. It is undeniably random. Their misinterpretation of the message seems profoundly alarming.
Starting point is 00:11:16 For example, there is a famous quote, you're not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank, you're not the car that you drive, you're not the contents of your wallet, you're not your fucking khakis. The original interpretation is that consumer culture takes away your own identity because modern consumer society reduces human identity to purchasing power. And that applies for every single human in a capitalistic world.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But the incels, because they didn't see a girl on the screen when this quote was said, they didn't see a girl. So they were like, ooh, that means this is about women. And all women care about our money. But that's not what men are. We're more than our bank accounts. It's like they just ran out of the lobotomy office to think this. Another quote that in cells love is, we're the middle children of history, man.
Starting point is 00:12:01 No purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great wars, a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lies. Incels have taken this quote to mean that the women have waged war against men, stripping them of their traditional masculine purpose in life, which is to beat their chest and run through a war zone with face paint, which you can still do.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You could enlist right now, but also read the room because to compare your life in most, not all, but most places in America, no matter how bleak and depressing we are, the condition right now in America today is not a war zone. And you can't really compare it to that. You can't say your spiritual war zone is as bad as a real war zone. That's actually insane. It's the rallying cry of the incels, though.
Starting point is 00:12:48 This is their motto. They live and die by this one quote. I feel like they would tattoo it on their left butt cheek. It's the most famous quote from Fight Club now, We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need. In cells use this as proof. They said, this is women are responsible for men's problems.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Single moms and overt female influence have corrupted masculinity, and men may need to reject female companionship because that's the worst thing that can happen to them. Meanwhile, Chuck Pollanick is basically writing, hey, fuck these dads who are absent from their kids' lives. but literacy is not in the room with us. Somehow they interpret this to mean women are unnecessary, and yet we are all the incells can think about.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Incells functioned their day-to-day life with the only thing on their mind, which is women. What does that have to do with this case? Everything. Because once you start on the in-cell pipeline, there are just only a few roads that you can take, and it seems like the most common one these days is the road straight to 764.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Michael Spitz is not having a good time. He's really not. All the media outlets, journalists, they're constantly asking him for a comment. And like, what can he say? What is he supposed to say? One of the bigger comments statements that he repeats is something along the lines of.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I know you guys want to ask me about my son Kyle, okay? My son Kyle was groomed by a woman 20 years older than him. her name is Tara she somehow convinced him to move and she turned him into this little puppet doing whatever she wants you know spiraling into the clutches of a satanic cult I hate Tara he just really fucking hates Tara so I don't know he's just like stop asking me I hate Tara and no offense but why does the world care about some random guy named Kyle he's not even a kid and sure Tara doesn't sound like a great person but there's so much going on in the world right now who is Kyle does it have to do with the fact that Kyle
Starting point is 00:14:56 Michael Spitz's son has a viral video where he was shot. The first video of Kyle to go viral is from the end of 2023. And it's of his stepdad threatening to kill him. More specifically, threatening to blow his brains out. Kyle starts recording... Kyle's dad trying to blow Kyle's bring out? Kyle's stepdad. So Michael is Kyle's biological dad.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But Kyle is recording a video of himself. And Kyle's stepdad is like, I'm going to blow your brains out. Kyle starts recording this whole interaction. And when his stepdad moves to leave, Kyle is following him into the hallway. to confront him like do it then do it that I'm going to show this to the police I'm going to show this video the stepdad decides to play the game before learning the rules because he essentially fucks around and finds out he he shoots his gun near kyle's face and you see it on the video and then you see the camera pan down and these droplets of blood just dropping onto the hallway floor it is
Starting point is 00:15:47 unclear if this is intentional but he just ends up clipping kiles here it's a interestingly non-fatal injury. However, during the standoff with the police, the stepdad self exits. What? He shoots Was it like attempt murder or was it it was it attempt murder? Like he literally tried to kill the son. I don't know if he was trying to shoot behind the son's face to make it scary. But it's pretty much. Clipping the air is like you are like how much apart from, you know, murdering him. I mean, it was definitely attempted murder by the book and he would have gone down for it. So he self-exit. And early sentiments when this video goes viral is what the hell is wrong with this stepdad? Kyle even goes on the law and crime to talk about how he posted that video of his stepdad
Starting point is 00:16:34 trying to threatening to kill him and ultimately shooting his ear because, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people about it. I've been trying to tell my story to multiple people, but not anybody important. So that's why I'm doing this interview. So I can get the truth out my side of the story. Because there was a lot of speculation of like, did the stepdad hurt you? Did the stepdad do things to you? And then in the video, Kyle's mom is briefly.
Starting point is 00:16:54 seen in the hallway with her shorts around her ankles. So everyone's like, ooh, was he like harming your mother? And that's why you stepped in. And then he shot you. And Kyle was like, no. I mean, the mother, she was using the restroom. And she ran out because she heard this ruckus of like, I'm going to blow your brains out. And Kyle says, you know, he was just drunk. He was high off his Annie. He didn't like me. He was angry drunk. So he got at his pistol and he shot me. End of story. That's it. But then a few months later, another video goes viral. Kyle is FaceTiming his friends When he walks in and finds his mom
Starting point is 00:17:24 Deceased from an apparent overdose of fentanyl His friends call the police Kyle records it some people who are talking on the phone with him Also scream recorded And it's him sobbing while he finds his mom dead And those videos start circulating online What's the content of the video? Just crying, that's it? You like, I mean a lot of it is censored now
Starting point is 00:17:45 But you do see like her laying there And just lots of crying and sobbing and A lot of the conversation, though, starts to change. It starts growing from that first video. There was always like a little bit, a few comments of like, why are we treating Kyle like a victim? Kyle's not a victim. But people are like, I don't know why Kyle wouldn't be a victim.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Nobody knows it. It's just like a random teenager in the United States. Nobody really knows Kyle. People thought he was brave for stepping up against his stepdad. And now people think it's sad that his mom is dead. But now the conversation is getting to Kyle is the. shittiest person in the room. The day that his mom passes away, another video starts circulating.
Starting point is 00:18:26 The viral one of him is him finding his mom and sobbing and having a very emotional reaction. The other one that starts spreading, mainly on Discord, is of him groping his mom's boob, like her chest, when she's laying there dead. What? The same time? Yeah. Is he sobbing?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, and he is just like groping her deceased body. a series of tweets blows up then a series of tweets blow up I can't believe my ex has gone viral El Mayo I hope this haunts him for the rest of his life what he's done to me and multiple other girls and children should haunt him
Starting point is 00:19:05 what does that even mean another tweet from her reads this man recording the video Kyle post revenge videos of me other women and kids to make money off of us he also uses intimate images and videos of us to sell and commit fraud to line his pockets for drugs.
Starting point is 00:19:20 He actively preys on minors to this day. He also extorts children, multiple. He participates in some BS chat room called 764 and grooms children and uses their intimate photos against them. He keeps mine, other women's and kids' pictures stockpiled on an app called Mega on his phone. He's a fucking freak. How old is Kyle? I believe at this point he's like 19, which this is how, by February, investigators have a search warrant. weren't for Kyle's phones, where they find 25 albums worth of CSAM.
Starting point is 00:19:53 The albums have different names like cut signs or just names of underage girls. A lot of the videos focus on girls injuring themselves and carving his username onto their bodies, or using blood to spell out his username on the walls of their bedrooms. And in one video, it shows a mutilated chicken in the bathtub, and the chicken's intestines have been pulled out to spell Kyle's username. He also has a lot of animal crushing videos, which we've covered in a different podcast episode. It is exactly what it sounds like. Particularly, those incidents always end with the animals being decapitated.
Starting point is 00:20:29 When the police go through his phone, I mean, he's just cataloging, collecting, like a full-time employee with health benefits at the Library of Congress of all these grotesque CSAM videos, but he's also distributing them with video attachments in telegram chat groups on Discord servers and just talking about how this one is he's talking about victims that are underage, nude and cutting her tongue.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Some of the victims are as young as 12. To give you, in the span of a few months, starting from end of 2023 to February of 2024, Kyle's stepdad is deceased, his mom is dead, Kyle has been imprisoned, and now Kyle's biological father, Michael, steps up to make statements in defense of Kyle. He's just bringing up a random mysterious woman named Tara
Starting point is 00:21:13 blaming it all on her until Michael Spitz is also randomly arrested. What the hell is going on with the Spitz family? Michael Spitz defends Kyle the entire way through. But not only that, he starts reaching out to one of Kyle's underage victims to convince her to delete all evidence against Kyle and to send Kyle photos while he's in jail. Clean photos, he's said. He literally used the word clean. He also gave Kyle the victim's email address so that Kyle could reach out to her and still torment her while he's in jail awaiting his trial. It got to the point where there is evidence and police write this in a memo that the little girl tells Michael the adult. She's, she's 15. She tells him, Michael, I'm only 15 years old. Kyle has been grooming
Starting point is 00:22:04 me for months. I wasn't lying about it. Kyle isn't a good person at all. He claims he's not a PDF file, but he is. When his mom died, he posted pictures of her all over the internet and said he killed her. Everything everyone is saying about your son is completely true. I'm sorry I didn't tell you sooner, but I was just afraid of Kyle. Michael also helps Kyle reach out to another one of his victims, and that victim ends up self-exiting later that year in the United Kingdom. So now Kyle and his dad, Michael, are in jail, and soon after, another video of Kyle starts going viral. It's recorded in the bathroom and a girl is seen pushing Kyle's head down the toilet, asking if he's ready.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And then she uses her foot to keep his head inside the toilet while she flushes over and over again. Additional, I mean, it appears he got off on having his head flushed down the toilet. Oh, he consented to that. Yeah. How do we know that? Like his reaction? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And additionally, another X came forward and said that he liked to consume his own fluids. So with that, it just, it exposed that Kyle has been a, long time huge member of an online cult and he went by the username criminololi and it's a splinter group of 764 called harm nation he has pled guilty where he has agreed to 15 to 30 years in prison a quarter million dollar fine and five years of supervised release before his arrest he posted online i have a total of over 2600 victims my goal is to reach 3,000 before i get fedded Fed it is an online slaying for basically taken down by the feds. He said he had 2,600 victims.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, I don't know how accurate that is, but it does seem like there are a lot of victims. And he only got 15 to 30. Yeah. Likely get out even earlier. Yeah. And he was 19. Yeah. It's called nihilistic violent extremism.
Starting point is 00:23:58 People who believe in nihilistic violent extremism, they believe that nothing in life really matters, which it's complicated. it's a little bit aligned with nihilism. Nialism, people have very different opinions about the philosophy, but they believe life is just something that happens. It doesn't really have a meaning. Morals are just a set of arbitrary rules that people made up to argue about, and nothing really has a purpose.
Starting point is 00:24:23 There's another fight club quote that a lot of these people who believe in this abide by, which is, you're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile. We just are. We just are. And what happens just happens. Which is a depressing, albeit totally fine outlook on life as long as you don't really do anything about it, specifically to harm other people. A gloomy outlook on life does not have to impact anybody else. But nihilistic, violent extremists think that there's no point in life. So they're just going to end yours just to make a point, which seems like the coherent thought of a rock at the bottom of the creek. The FBI states, these are the people who quote, that want to so chaos and facilitate the destruction of society just because they literally have no purpose for their violence, there's no reasoning, they're not trying to change anything in society, they're not trying to promote a specific outcome. Some threat actors may be engaging in criminal
Starting point is 00:25:20 activities solely for sexual gratification, social status, or a sense of belonging, or a mix of any of the other reasons that may not be ideologically motivated. Experts have stated, this is pretty bad because a lot of incels have highly nihilistic outlooks on life. They believe that the current social order and hierarchy are unchangeable no matter what you do. So they're just waking up to the matrix. That's what they think. They think that they live in a world manipulated by women and see themselves as a group who has woken up to that reality. And basically, they're going to outsmart the game by killing people and being misogynist. I don't know what game they're playing. I don't even know what they're winning. I don't think they know either. They strike me as people who don't necessarily
Starting point is 00:26:01 have a lot of action upstairs or downstairs, a seemingly unfortunate, deadly combination for young men on the internet. It also is just like an oddly narcissistic view. Most women I know are just like trying to be alive. That's it. We're just trying to pay taxes and read a book and go to the beach sometimes. That's it. No thoughts of male population domination, not even a slight interest. It's crazy. And one particular group of incels turned nihilistic violent extremist has gotten onto the radar of the FBI and Europe poll and most nations in the world. 764. The FBI has now called the organization a domestic terror organization. The head of the FBI counterterrorism division says, we have seen a lot of bad things, but this is one of the most
Starting point is 00:26:44 disturbing things that we're seeing. They describe 764 and it's splinter groups. So these are groups that start with members of 764 that decide that they're going to start another group, but they're going to maybe niche it down a little bit more. So some are more violent than 764. Some are more focused on younger victims. Some are focused on male victims. Like it's just a different sectors. And they're all part of one big community. Is this like at all related to the enthrum or is it they do similar things but not related?
Starting point is 00:27:14 They do similar things, but it's not related. It seems like every single country has some variation of this. But I will say for 764, they seem a lot more connected. end thrum it's like sick people going into chat rooms to watch sick things and pay money to see sick things and if you like sick things you might end up in multiple different chat rooms with sick things and sick people but 764 seems like almost like a community like a lot more organized yeah a lot more organized there's key figures that everybody knows and thrums you have maybe two figures that everybody knows and nobody really even knew them until maybe after the arrest they became more well known
Starting point is 00:27:57 764, they're all known by their usernames. And so you've got key members of each splinter group of 764, and they keep spawning new ones. Are they still around? Yeah. Wow. The FBI says they are a network
Starting point is 00:28:13 of nihilistic violent extremists who engage in criminal conduct in the U.S. and abroad seeking to destroy civilized society through the corruption and exploitation of vulnerable populations, which often includes minors. The network's accelerationist goals include social unrest and the downfall of the current world order, including the U.S. government.
Starting point is 00:28:31 The FBI has more than 250 open investigations into this group. Every single one of its 55 field offices. So they have like a field office in every state and some. All of them have cases related to 764, every single one of them. They currently assign about 10 new cases related to 764 to a field office every single week. It's, is it mainly America, is 7664 U.S. specific or international? It started in U.S., but now it's completely international as long. It does seem like it is mainly English speaking.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You have a lot of victims in the U.S., Canada, UK, and Eastern Europe, if they speak English. And Turkey had 901, which is a splinter group of 764. So the last, the last case, no, the last last case that we did, with the beheading, that case, with Semi-Cellek, he was part of a lot of these groups. And 901 is the splinter group of 764 in Turkey. Why is it called 764? Oh, wait, I feel like you talked about it, right? No, you're going to, well, you're going to, the founder, the zip code starts with 764.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I thought it was something dark. I thought it was going to have like a twisted meaning. It's like living in Los Angeles. Yeah, where is 764? In Texas. Wow. They just took the first three digits of their zip code and made 764. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And it's like a weeds. You take one out and it just re-sprouts and resprouts. And the FBI says, we're dealing with a new breed of criminal organizations. It primarily exists in the virtual world, but causes very real harm. So their main objective, 764, is like the anthrooms. Endthrooms. Find children, blackmail children, exploit them into creating CSAM.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And once they've done that, convince them to, live stream their own deaths. The FBI says they are orchestrating one of the most heinous online child exploitation enterprises we have ever encountered, a network built on terror, abuse, and the deliberate targeting of children. Another FBI agent says it's like trying to catch smoke. These groups are constantly shifting, rebranding, and creating new aliases to stay ahead of us. And their only ideology is violence. Sergeant Lanier and his team show up to this apartment complex outside of Unit 112. That's the unit.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And they're talking to a woman named Heather and her daughter. And she's confused, but she's answering all their questions. I mean, yeah, we have a two-bedroom unit. The police already know that. And I live here, and they already know that. It's Heather, her boyfriend, Mike, her underage daughter, her underage son. So the police, they're very intrigued by Mike. Does he go by any nicknames?
Starting point is 00:31:16 No, just Mike. Why? Has he ever been in trouble before? No, that's a lie. Well, maybe it's the truth for her, but objectively, it's a lie. He's currently serving 10 years probation for a third-degree felony. But the police are here because there were videos being uploaded onto a Discord server, lots of videos, all CCM. And not only that, the account is operated by the founder and creator of 764, and all the IP addresses are located coming back in to Unit 112.
Starting point is 00:31:45 This is the founder of 764? Yes. Mike? Heather's boyfriend. and she doesn't know it. Is that what it is? When did he move in with you? And she's explaining, well, April of 2021. The videos were being uploaded onto the server starting March of 2021. Which means Mike is not the founder and creator of 764. It's Heather's underage son. And how old is this son? 16. But he started when he was 15.
Starting point is 00:32:16 764 is a group started on Discord and Telegram. And it's kind of of the American enthrums, the FBI states they probably have thousands of victims and some victims that they've seen are as young as nine years old. They say the more gore, the more violence, that raises your status within the group. So enthrum, it's more of, you post videos, you get money for the videos. This is like you get power and praise by posting. So not even for money. A lot of these people aren't making money. They're just sick and twisted. Yeah, a lot of these people are not making a single dollar. There are some who are just in it for the money,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but a good chunk of them are not in it for the money. Yeah, yeah. I can only imagine, like, because there's a million illegal things you could do to make money. Exactly. And this is beyond that, I think, yeah. It's like a badge of honor within some of these groups to actually do the most harm to these victims.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They have been described as a network of, quote, young sadists, child predators, and extortionists. Their motto is, no lives matter, which is now also the name of a splinter group of 764. They idolize death, they seek purification of mankind through violence. In several court documents of 764, it's described by the DOJ as, quote, members of 764 seek to desensitize young people to violence, breaking down societal norms regarding engaging in violence and normalizing the possession, production, and sharing of explicit C-SAM. Just take Samuel, for example,
Starting point is 00:33:41 who died by lighting himself on fire. The 15-year-old girl behind it is from Eastern Europe. The Washington Post tracked her down, interviewed her. She's completely anonymous, so I can't even tell you her name, even though I would very much like to. We're going to call her Diane. Diane says in the interview that the day that she essentially egg Samuel on to the point of his death and watched it through the little live stream, she says that was her big break. It was a competition we were in of like who could do the worst thing. So I obviously felt very cool that day. Wait, what's, is there anything happened to her? No. No consequences? She did have to go to therapy. Court appointed therapy. Court mandated therapy. That's fucking crazy. So
Starting point is 00:34:20 nobody was in trouble. Yeah. And I think a lot of, um, the reason is a lot of people who speak English in other countries abroad, and I'm not saying this, that the US takes CCM and child exploitation seriously, clearly not, right? But a lot of, um, other countries abroad take it even less seriously. And so you'll have a lot of, she was, like her devices were taken from her. They found tons of CSAM on there. And she got court mandated therapy. Whereas a lot of the 7-6 members that are either U.S. citizens will get extradited. And they're all, a lot of them are in the, in Europe, try to run, I think. Like the bigger names that are making a little bit of money from the CSAM. And they run a lot of their own servers. A lot of them are getting extradited from
Starting point is 00:35:05 Europe. One of them was arrested in Greece, but they're an American citizen. what and a lot of the american 764 higher up members are getting a little bit more time in jail but it's yeah it's like nothing she thought it was cool you know what else she thought was cool her screen name was fmlk i was trying to figure it out like fuck my low life like what but that's fm l turns out it's literally m lk martin luther king's name with f as in like fuck him yeah the ones that are extorting kids they're getting off on all of this
Starting point is 00:35:41 and she is seemingly one of them of trying to feel powerful and I will say some of them are here for the money there are messages that were uncovered where people, some members that are higher up are cating towards an audience with one of the audience members saying these are too old
Starting point is 00:35:57 I need them to be about four or five years old instead of 12 a member of 764 goes by Brad online that's his nickname. He knows exactly who he's looking for, which is someone young, someone who wants emotional support, someone he can easily manipulate, he finds a 14-year-old girl on Discord, convinces her that they're in love and for her to send photos without clothes. Victims are chosen by age for obvious reasons, but also because the blackmailers feel like kids are easier to manipulate. So he convinces her to send photos of herself. And
Starting point is 00:36:27 the second that those photos are delivered, he is no longer Brad. He is the founder of 764 group on Discord. She's talking to the founder. He's bragging about what he's going to do to her to his Discord server saying things like, I got a good target. Girl, I've been grooming since December. This girl will do anything. She's scared as shit. He blackmails her into carving his screen name into her thigh, which is a common thing. It's called fan signing. A picture was shown to a judge of a young girl with the words, no lives matter carved onto her chest. Sometimes it's swastikas, sometimes it's 764, sometimes it's random patterns. Most of the time, it's usernames.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And the usernames are sick, and a lot of these, they're so deep, it's scarred for life. Like, this is going to be on a lot of these victims' bodies for the rest of their lives. Some of them will say, like, Brad is a petto, and they'll make them carve that into their bodies. So it's not just limited to screen names. There's no limit to the vile nature of these individuals. Brad starts forcing the victim to do things like drinking from a toilet bowl, and another thing is flushing their head down the toilet turn a bathtub of water red
Starting point is 00:37:41 you can't stop until it's red lake sharp objects with blood on there in one picture a girl is holding up a piece of paper that says s y n sin and flar these are two usernames and it says sin and flar abused children and she has her tongue sticking out over the paper and blood is dripping down because she was forced to injure her tongue. I mean, to get these types of pictures of abuse is seen as a brag. It's seen
Starting point is 00:38:06 as a flex. It went from people posting their watches on their car emblems to this. This is a flex. There are videos of girls getting unclosed filming themselves. They're in clear distress. Depending on the video, they will either stare into the camera and repeat demeaning phrases, or they'll just look very zoned out. In one Discord chat, there's a girl streaming and she's crying, she's cutting off her hair and she's begging the discord members like, please leave me alone. And a guy's voice just tells her angrily, it's chopping time. I want you to take the hair that you just cut off and I want you to stick it in your mouth. Like it's just very demeaning. Many are forced to use objects such as knives and bottles in places where they should not be
Starting point is 00:38:50 placed. In other video series produced by a group of real life to mentors, a girl is blackmailed into stabbing her cat to death. Another has to choke her family dog. There's one video of a girl sitting on the floor leaned up against the wall. She's crying. And there are words and blood behind her on the wall. I sold my soul to username in question. I couldn't read the username as messy, but there are countless victims that are forced to
Starting point is 00:39:19 harm their own pets. That seems to be like a thematic favorite. Dog napping their neighbor's dog, killing it via stomping. A lot of the animals' remains are dismembered and then forced to spell out usernames. One member of 764 does an anonymous interview where they state that the worst thing that they have ever seen is, I've seen kids getting tortured, getting their limbs cut off slowly. So this doesn't seem like it was done by 764 members,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but they would find these gore videos online and they would also spread those. Another one is so scary specific, but he says that he saw a man get his head. head severed and then a shotgun placed inside the severed head and fired. Some say the worst torture comes from girls who have to use sharp objects to carve like inside. Another video shows members forcing a victim to swallow razor blades on camera. In other videos, the victims will be forced into injuring themselves and then pouring alcohol all over straight into their injuries. A lot of the victims are minors, meaning that they are doing all of this whilst hiding in their closets. A lot of times, you'll see them with rags in their mouth biting down so they don't
Starting point is 00:40:29 scream because they're trying to hide it from their parents. And if people are like, why, okay, the promise is revenge. And it's not empty. There are reports of victims' homes being broken into, a window smashed, a Molotov cocktail thrown inside the house. Thankfully, nobody was harmed. Other reports of victims' homes being swatted. Other reports of parents getting fired because people will send these types of videos to their parents' place of occupation to their school. to their churches, to their family members, to all of their friends. There was another instance where a victim was pregnant, a member of the organization threw a big brick through her window,
Starting point is 00:41:04 and the sudden shock caused her to go into cardiac arrest, and she lost her baby. Oftentimes, members of 764 will send videos of themselves taking random dogs from the shelter and beating them for fun to instill fear in their victims, because at this point, to this point where you get these types of videos, they already have their addresses, they already have all this information about it. them. There's an audio message from a member of 764 to his victim where he aggressively threatens her, you fucking bitch, I don't give a fuck what you think about me. Hate me, love me,
Starting point is 00:41:33 I don't really care. Trust me, you will regret this every day for the rest of your life. I mean, all I asked was for you to send me some videos and that's it, but no, you wouldn't listen. So this is all your fault. And I know that you won't really feel fear or anything, you know, because you probably think, what can I even do? You don't know. Things won't work like that. You will be very much aware of what kind of person I am. And if you're not, don't worry, because in two to three weeks or even in a month, you'll definitely see. Some former members of 764 say they regret what they did, such as the 15-year-old girl, Diane, that forced Samuel to light himself on fire. She says very unconvincingly, I feel very bad for what I did.
Starting point is 00:42:09 It's something that happened when I was in a bad space. I feel like this is going to haunt me for the rest of my life. I sure hope it does haunt you to the point where you know no peace. It's just kind of wild that she's acting like, I made two very small. small mistakes of trying to encourage two people to die, and then I laughed about it while I watched it happen. Samuel is not her only victim, the second incident being a 15-year-old girl who she egged on to consume, to suffocate herself, consuming helium.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And this is after the first guy? Yeah. At one point, a higher-up member of 764 messages Diane. he wants more videos of self-exit. And she responds, I've only done too sorry, why, why, why, why, why, why. I'll do more soon. Three years later, she now claims to be completely reformed
Starting point is 00:43:01 while also saying, people say I make them do it. Everything they do is their own choice. I only help them pick a choice. Attempts are made to blame 764. She states that 764 found her when she was in a dark place, which prompted her to start putting other people in worse places. the only natural viable option her smooth brain could think of
Starting point is 00:43:20 to help herself feel better. She says she would reach out to girls who are posting about how sad they are pretending like she wants to be their friend. But really, she's looking for cuthors. That's what they call them. Victims of Sysam who injure themselves. And once she has those,
Starting point is 00:43:33 she'll manipulate them into sending videos and then the more videos she gets out of these girls, the more reputation she gets in 764 and it made her feel good. It made her feel cool. It made her feel accepted. Because at school, she was bullied for being, quote, weird.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Hey, why do you think they think you're weird? Just a question. I think you're weird. And this is not a situation where it's a victim-turned predator or perpetrator, which I still wouldn't really excuse much, but she actively sought out Gore pages and joined these chat rooms because she was being bullied in school. She just wanted to feel edgy,
Starting point is 00:44:05 and she wanted these people to like him. That's how she finds Samuel. She did not intend for him to be a cut horse. She clearly thought he was bigger fish. He would post about how he wants to say, self-exit and her only goal was to talk to him for months to get him to follow through on it while live streaming it for them. His post would read things like, I'm very lost, I've no support system. I really think the worst part is not having anyone to talk to. I feel like I should
Starting point is 00:44:31 accept that this is the end. Sam gets a random message from a person online and he opens it and it reads, I think you shouldn't. I've been in your shoes before it gets better. Then another one. This time, hey, I'm looking for some new friends. friends. That one's username reads FMLK. Once they start talking, she says she would like to, she would keep saying things like, you know, what are you waiting for? When are you going to do it? I think the longer you wait, the worse it is, no. You can do it. He would respond that he's scared. He stayed up all night crying because he doesn't want to go away and he quote, doesn't want the story to end. But she would just encourage him. And then after those two deaths,
Starting point is 00:45:11 she leaves the Discord server. She says, I realize these people are scum. I realized if I keep doing that, my life was not going to be good. But that's not really why she leaves. It's because the police confidence gave her phone for distributing CCM. The same video, the same phone has videos of Samuel self-exiting, but they don't do anything about it. She was just forced into a court-mandated psych eval and had to attend therapy twice a week, which was, I believe, paid for by the government. She says that she believes she's a victim in all of this too. You know, saying one of the older members of 764 must have groomed her because she wanted to make him happy. So she was it's, you know, do all these crazy things.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Not that she would do anything, but like she would make other people do things. She said, if I wasn't groomed, I wouldn't have done those things. And everyone's like, no, you're crazy. The insane thing is Samuel's mom wasn't even told about what happened. She was told by investigative reporters from the Washington Post later on. Even with FMLK gone, there are so many other people that are forcing victims to carve, drink from toilet bowls, be head pet hamsters. there's always the last demand is self-exit, and one victim says you don't realize how quickly it can happen. Thankfully, her mom stopped her. Another anonymous 764 member states, watching these
Starting point is 00:46:26 types of videos just made him, I don't know, it just made me feel like a type of adrenaline that I guess a normal person can't feel. I don't know how to explain it, but it made me happy, I guess. Another one is later asked by authorities when caught, they ask him, why are you doing this? He just responds, I don't know, I like the blood. Another one explains, I just like the faces people make when they're in pain, like when they're hurting. I don't know something about like the faces. Remember Kyle, the one that likes to get his head flushed down the toilet that had his ear shot by his stepdad? He says, well, I've just always kind of been a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And I just always wanted to watch girls inflict pain upon themselves for me. My earliest cut sign I ever got was like back in 2016. It was a single K for Kyle. another member says i mean i don't really feel regret i mean i don't really care at the end of the day it's just fucking cuts it'll heal eventually and it's all going to be over another says i only joined seven six four because my friend he got me into it and um i was just kind of bored so i didn't really have anything to do who how are they talking like are they interviewed or are they just messaging online these are the ones that have been arrested so the authorities are like hey you're 17 why are you
Starting point is 00:47:40 doing this to other 17 year olds to 16 year olds to 12 year olds what's wrong with you and they're like I don't know I was just kind of bored yeah yeah I like the blood yeah this guy said that his friend introduced him to it and he was bored so then he got into it but then he lost a lot of friends because a lot of his friends knew that he was in 764 so it seems like in some community 764 is like a thing it's not even like a oh my god you're in 764 I'm gonna call the cops it's like oh yeah that guy's in 764 so like we don't talk to him oh yeah he's a weird one Yeah, like don't talk to him. He's scary. He's like, apparently he's in 7-6-4. So he lost a lot of friends that way and he says, I mean, it kind of made me sad.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Then I lost my friends, but then I got used to it, so I don't really care. That's what makes you sad? He also said that the youngest victims he's ever had is nine years old. One very outspoken survivor by the name of Trinity, she says, they loved watching me in pain. They fed my tears and I fed their desires. I told them I loved it. I told them I wanted more. but in truth, I was just like a mindless slave at that point. I was 14 when I was groomed by members of 764 and I was exploited for three years. It just became so painful. I didn't feel real.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Like I didn't feel human. So she has been trying to share this story with her mom. And she's like, we've been trying to tell this story and nobody's listened. Nobody believes it. It's, yeah. As for anyone who might wonder why she fell for it, why she kept listening, she says, abuse was really familiar to me. She says that she was abused previously by a close male family member.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So, quote, I felt like I still needed that. Like, I still felt like I needed male validation in a terrible way. And it's just really sick and twisted. She runs into 764 by accident. Her friend was just trying to show her Gore videos, invited her into one of the servers, and Trinity started talking. That's how she meets members of 764, but ultimately one guy named M.K. Ultra. And she says, on that server, I saw a lot of girls naked, covered in blood,
Starting point is 00:49:39 lots of starving girls. There was a video of a girl who was suspended in her closet, lots of animals being tortured. Trinity still has carvings on her chest and she says, I look in the mirror now and I still see that engraved in my chest and I really wish it wasn't there. She has MK Ultra on her stomach, marks all over her body, princess carved into her shoulder, a swastika on her chest. She says as she was forced to carve into herself, they would just watch and laugh. She says, I don't recognize a single square inch of my body. It's all branded, cut up, and bruised, and I hate them so much. And she would write in her diary during three years that this is happening. And she would write things like, my arm is drenched in the tears of blood. I look at myself in the mirror. Look at what these guys
Starting point is 00:50:22 have done to me. My face is snotty and red, and my eyes are like fountains. She says it was really bad. Like for three years, it would just get so much worse. And she would start acting out because she has all of this trauma. And her mom would, she's a teenager. So her mom would ground her and take away her phone, which becomes a huge, huge problem when her mom takes away her phone, grounds her.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And if she doesn't contact these people back in a timely manner, they will follow through and they will ruin her life. She will start begging, sobbing with her mom, please, I need my phone back. Which I can't imagine most parents of teenagers would just give them their phone back after that. So Trinity, she doesn't really have a choice. If she does not get her phone back,
Starting point is 00:51:01 her life is over. so she will start screaming, banging her head on the wall, demanding her mom, give her her a phone back, scratching herself, pulling her own hair out. Her mom is so confused. Like, what the hell is wrong with my child? And through all of this, Trinity's mom is trying to talk to her, trying to get her help,
Starting point is 00:51:17 but all of the facilities nearby, they have wait lists. I mean, I'm assuming she's trying to find her a care facility that can actually help her and not just put her daughter on a psych hold that's probably going to just make things worse. She calls the police when things get really desperate, mainly when Trinity runs away because she's terrified that her daughter's going to self-exit. The worst person in all of this for Trinity is M.K. Ultra. He is obsessing over her, love bombing her. She's writing in her journal.
Starting point is 00:51:44 M.K. Ultra, I can't stop thinking about him. He's done so much to me, but why is he haunting me? I love him so much, but he's an instigator, a predator. I still love him. I still want to be his little girl, and I miss him. And this part is really sick, but M.K. Ultra was one of the first people that she opened up about her assault, how a male family member assaulted her when she was much younger. Clearly, by this point, he had manipulated her into believing that he was the only one that cared for her, and he twisted everything to make it seem like he was going to help her. He says that he was so jealous of her former abuser that he wishes it could have been him. She writes in her journal, M.K., I will shed more than my own blood for you. I will hurt others for you
Starting point is 00:52:24 to show you how much I truly love you. I am nothing without you. Then she starts splattering the journal with droplets of her own blood. And that's when he tries to convince her. Kill your pets, kill your mom, and we can run away together. The plan is that they're going to come and run away together and the two of them will kidnap little girls whom he will essay and then kill and move on to the next and do as many as they can before getting caught. Trinity's mom doesn't know the plan, but she could feel that something's not right. She's terrified of her own daughter. She says, I started sleeping with a kitchen knife under my pillow. Even all of her pets were locked in rooms that only Trinity's mom could enter, she put those lock codes on all the doors.
Starting point is 00:53:02 There's no way she's letting Trinity alone with any of her family pets, even herself. But instead of all of this, Trinity does a live stream on the Discord. It's a blood bath live stream, so it's scorching hot water and self-injury until the water is red. She says, before I got into the bathtub, at that time, I was a bigger girl. They had me get on my knees and squeal like a pig. she tries to self-exit in that bathtub and her mom is banging on the door until she finally opens it and thankfully she's having a mental break well thankfully as in she saves her and she is having a mental breakdown and i guess in hindsight it's thankful because she screams at her mom and she finally tells her i can't take this anymore look what they've done to me and she's showing all of her injuries her mom rushes her to the hospital i mean one look at trinity the doctor is like we have to call the police we got to call a police they get a female officer in the hospital, they take pictures of Trinity, every single part of her body is covered from head to toe in carving symbols, names. There's like not a single inch of her body that's not
Starting point is 00:54:04 wounded. Trinity's mom is freaking out because she doesn't even know how to help. Like who are even these people? She doesn't know. The police initially, they take it very seriously. They take Trinity's phone. They're making sure that she's under protective care. They're going to find these people. But they can't find out the password to Trinity's Apple ID. So they say there's no evidence. Technically, she was the one holding the knife. So they returned the phone months later and case closed. That's it. So Trinity wasn't willing to provide the...
Starting point is 00:54:34 She did. But they said there's no evidence. She tried to provide the password. So the 764 forced her to make like 50 million Apple IDs. And a lot of the messages are on Discord where you can delete the messages and they just never come back. Wow. But her body is proof.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Her journal is proof, you know? There's no way she's doing this for herself. So Trinity's mom is so pissed off that they're not taking it seriously and it takes three years for the police to reach out again because now they have a lead in a completely different country.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Trinity is from Canada and they just caught, the FBI just caught MK Ultra in the United States. And his real name is Keir Anthony Cutler. On his phone they find folders of CSAM graphic videos of murders that he seemingly downloaded from Gore website,
Starting point is 00:55:25 some unknown people self-exiting, which includes children. It's unclear if he was involved in egging on those children, but they were there. And the CSAM is described in court as, quote, Detective Basco located over 700 images of the worst child exploitation he has observed in his entire career. Nearly every image showed the child to be bound or restrained, and in many cases, an element of sadism was observed. honestly these people are way worse even than serial killers just amount of victims and the age and the reach and the evilness of these people and then how many of them get away with it
Starting point is 00:56:07 yeah i mean okay not in a comparison of like death i think that would be hard to compare but in worse in the sense of it's so hard to track and they can reach so many more people and they can cause them to be dead like whereas in the modern age There are still lots of serial killers, but it's definitely. But the feeling is that, you know, people say serial killer. It's like the worst thing. But these people, you don't even know them. Like, they are so scary. And they're talking to kids all day long.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And most of them are kids. It's crazy. Yeah. And so I wonder, like, what they're going to be like 10 years later, you know? And I think with a lot of serial killers just from years, right, is a lot of them have cool off periods. and a lot of them, to some degree, value their lives and they value the risk of trying to get this fleeting moment of satisfaction by taking another life.
Starting point is 00:57:02 A lot of these people, members of 764, when they're interviewed, they just seem like it didn't really even matter. Like the type of CCM content that they were getting, yeah, it was cool. I liked it for a second, but like it really didn't mean anything to me. It's so like, it's not even like, this is all I've ever wanted in life. So I'm done now. It's like, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So I'm just going to keep doing it Because nothing's hitting I see It doesn't even feel that real to them No Probably Wow And this is what he's done to Trinity
Starting point is 00:57:35 This guy named MK Ultra Kier Cutler But he's not even the leader And founder of 764 How old is him? He's 19 How old is he? How old is he?
Starting point is 00:57:46 19 Hmm The founder is Bradley Cadenhead. He is 15 years old when he creates 7-6-4, and they have thousands of members who extort these kids to gain status in the group. They have CSAM, they work together to threaten docs, harass, assault, and ultimately try to drive their victims into self-exiting. the purpose is to be evil.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's not about the money. Money is sometimes important, but pain is the currency. Pain is the goal. Eventually, with enough people complaining online, Discord starts running investigations to cut down on the CSAM that's being distributed. So you're, okay, why Discord and Y Telegram is
Starting point is 00:58:33 there is no email verification needed for the two platforms, meaning you can put in a random-ass email. You don't have to go verify it on your email account. So you could literally just put dda-da-da-d-d-gmail.com. and then join these servers. And they did it because of they want to give people with privacy, right? Yes. So there's no email verification.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I mean, I don't think, I know a lot of older people think Discord is like a cesspool of crime. And so is Telegram. I do know that both of the platforms are incredibly important in a lot of countries, even outside of the U.S., for providing privacy for people who might be protesting very scary governments, maybe even in the U.S. So there's a lot of reasons that people need these platforms. But of course, there's going to be bad actors. So they get on Discord, and we don't know how many accounts Discord found that were spreading CSAM.
Starting point is 00:59:28 But we do know 58 of those accounts were all linked to one person, Bradley Cadenhead, or how he called himself the CP God. 764 is also, like I said, the first few digits of his zip code, which was not very creative, rather idiotic. clearly did not think that the police were coming for him because his laptop was open when he was arrested and he had 20 different images and videos open of CSAM, just like out there in the open. He also had a group called No Fed's Paradise where he bragged, I've already been reported to the FBI 15 times and they haven't done shit. So he created when he was 15. Yes. He was caught when he was 16. Yes. So a year in, he was caught. But the group has grown and keeps going. Yeah. Yeah. So high-up members of 764 took over 764. And now there are even more high-profile splinter groups.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Harm Nation seems to be one of the bigger ones. There's one called sewer. That's big. Cultist. No Lives Matter is a big one. A maniac murder club. That one to get entry, you have to murder someone and have video proof. Okay. So they caught the main guy. Yeah. But it didn't matter. In fact, it actually made it worse. Really? Because a lot of these splinter groups, they were trying to up each other. Like, who's going to be the new Bradley Cadenhead?
Starting point is 01:00:52 So he didn't scare them. No. They laid low for a little bit, but no. Ultimately, it just made it worse. And I think the reason, again, that they're not very scared is, and I don't know, I'm not trying to armchair analyzed, but it does seem like teenagers are less prone to understanding. Like, it does seem like people who are maybe 16. 17 are less able to grasp severe consequences.
Starting point is 01:01:18 That makes sense. So maybe they're not as scared and it's even edgier that they're getting, quote, fetid. Bradley's life story is summarized and presented in court in very simplistic villain origin story-like structure with random pleas of sympathies scattered around. Parents divorced at 10. Bradley is sad. He has no support system since he gets bullied at school. Bradley drops out of school at 15.
Starting point is 01:01:41 his parents clearly are not present, and he spends every waking moment of his entire teenage existence on Minecraft where he stumbles upon disturbing content, which disgust him. But also he's intrigued. One thing leads to another, and Bradley goes by the alias Felix and Brad, and opens up one of the most disturbing online cult-like communities called 764, where they can sexploit underage girls into harming themselves and providing CSAM. Court documents state that he has been hooked and addicted to violent images since he was 10 years old. At one point, he threatened to bring weapons to his place of education.
Starting point is 01:02:13 His dad has come out and said, Bradley was only 15 when he committed his crimes. I don't want to say it in an attempt to excuse it, but to point out that he was a victim at one point. It seems like he did join this group called The Order of the Nine Angles. They're like a neo-Nazi satanic group. Talked about them. Yeah, we're going to talk about them a little more. So this is kind of an inspiration of that, 764 is. He says about Bradley, I pray that he will get the help he needs to heal from what was done to him
Starting point is 01:02:43 and that he will understand what he did to others. I also pray that his victims will find peace and healing and won't continue the cycle of victimizing others. Now, side note, I didn't see any evidence of Bradley being a victim in the sense that he was victimized in the way that he targeted other people, but I did, I mean, I did see reports that his home life wasn't great and he was bullied in school, which was very serious and clearly contributed to a mental health decline for him and he resorted to injuring himself as well. But the statement from his father comes off rather fucking annoying to many netizens
Starting point is 01:03:13 for him to say that Bradley needs to be healed from what was done to him and what he did to others. That's not to diminish the impact of bullying, but to like compare what was done to him to what he's done to others. This kid has posted on Discord, I make bitches eat their house pets and injure themselves for four hours straight
Starting point is 01:03:31 and I got proof. He's bragging. He's also posted CSAM that involved a literal baby an infant that he obtained on the internet, he brags to have collected several terabytes of CCM material that he would sell and make $10,000 a day for, which authorities state is very unlikely because he doesn't seem money motivated.
Starting point is 01:03:49 He seemed sadistic and just pain motivated, but he bragged about it. His discord mods called him, quote, Felix the CP guard. Side note, he also would go by the name Felix along with Brad, and there were FBI found pictures of victims that were forced to carve things like Brad as a peasant, I heart C.P. God 764. Weirdly enough, court documents straight that he seemed less in it for the money, like I said, but for the power. People thought he was like a cult leader, and he's still known pretty highly in these communities. The judge told him, there is something horribly wrong with you.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Horribly. Another officer working this case said, this wasn't the run of the mill. See Sam rings. This was a lot darker. There was one video of a woman being held down and stabbed. I mean, this case is awful. It was the worst stuff I've ever looked at in my six. years of working CTM. Bradley, getting arrested does nothing for stopping 764. They're just trying to outdo each other, create new servers. There's one adjacent Discord server called sewer, run by a 47-year-old army veteran named Richard. He would message his victims, threats such as don't make daddy angry, I'll extort you, I have all your information, I own you, you do what I say now, kitten. Does he feel an ounce of remorse or have moments of pause where he questions his
Starting point is 01:05:03 morality and the purpose of being on this planet. Although I do think the world would benefit without his existence. No, he brags on Discord servers. I gaslight girls and I make them fucked up. I got a girl to cut her ass off on camera and they'll kill their pets for me too. Is he caught? Yes. Another user responds to him. There's no reason to do that to people. He just responds, they beg for it. Sure, like how you'll be begging for it in prison for them to stop. One can only hope. I mean, if that sounds harsh, the DOJ has categorically data that the evidence found on his phone was some of the most heinous imagery that they had the misfortune of seeing. And that's just what they had left. He posted on Discord prior to his
Starting point is 01:05:43 arrest because I guess he thought that the feds were coming for him. He gathered most of his devices threw them into a metal barrel outside to burn. He says in the video, bye-bye evidence. And now that video is being used against him as evidence in court. So there's that. The two phones that the police were able to seize were found hidden in his air vents. So you like take down the air vent. You put your phones in there. I don't know why a lot of criminals think that's a bright hiding spot. It's really not. They always find it.
Starting point is 01:06:09 He does that. The FBI finds it. And they say it's as bad as it gets. They said he was creating hives where he and other predators would just swarm children. It's crazy that he like got rid of quote unquote evidence but left, kept two of them. And then recorded himself getting rid of evidence and then posted it on a platform where the feds. I mean, it seems like the FBI are trying really hard to infiltrate these groups. And I think that's why a lot of these groups have taken on kind of the enthrum model where you have to provide CSAM, which I was thinking about that recently.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And I was like, I wonder if. But wouldn't feds just, you know, supply what they have? I was thinking, like, do the feds supply really old CCM of maybe, like, CSM that, you know, the victims are no longer around because, you know, the lifespan has passed? I don't know if it works like that Or with The Department of Defense The amount of money they're spending on AI And other related things
Starting point is 01:07:13 Like I wonder if they're allowed to create fake C-SAM to infiltrate these groups Because I just don't know how they're getting into these groups But they're getting into these groups Dang Right, okay If you guys have a better idea, let me know Because I don't know
Starting point is 01:07:31 And I was thinking about it for a really long time I don't think it would be ethical for them to repurpose very current evidence or at all, any evidence. Yeah, I don't think it's ethical. But then how else would they get it? I don't know. Or could they ask certain family members for consent? I don't know. Like, that's what I was wondering.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Because I guess if I had a family member, I would consent perhaps because it's like, I just want everyone taken down. Like, I want them to get them all. Like, I would be on a hellfire journey of revenge. So I don't know. Maybe there are people like that. Or maybe, I don't know. I don't know if you guys have any idea.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Let me know. Not that it matters, but it's something. Now, a lot of 764 members, they go on to Roblox. Yeah. Most of the victims that 764 seems to get are from Roblox. For the soul, they just seek out little kids who have mental health struggles. And that's just how they work. It's just a bunch of guys.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Some of them are underage. Some of them are as old as 40. They seek out kids on Discord with mental health issues, or Roblox, trick them, and ultimately blackmail them into creating sick videos for them. They literally brag in their chats about how abusive they can get. Some people give out tips. They say, gain her trust, make her feel comfortable, make her want to harm for you. So, I mean, a lot of the victims that they're choosing are people who are already injuring
Starting point is 01:08:55 themselves. And now they spin it as like, do it for me because it'll make me happy. and that's how you tap into her emotions and make it seem like you're the only person she would ever need in her life. There are specific guides based on mental illnesses. One reads,
Starting point is 01:09:11 Bipolar Disorder Guide How to Manipulate. E.D. Guide How to manipulate. The manuals would detail, quote, feign attraction, draw them into influence, then turn that attention into negative reinforcement and so self-doubt in order to bring them to the edge of a borderline episode. When they hit that episode,
Starting point is 01:09:28 continue to break them down until they seem defeated. Court documents detail a tutorial found in one of the members' houses where it talks about how easily you can get CSAM. All you have to do is get a VPN, create a new email with no name or phone number attached, get a Twitter account, make a tweet with this type of template. They insert the template, trading now, got loads of stuff, DM me, hashtag. I'm not going to include the hashtag, but there's apparently three hashtags that you have to use in order for this to work. Then you add a Discord or Telegram handle because, quote, this makes it way faster. They say if it's your first time you trick these criminals into giving you a link on the promise that you'll trade
Starting point is 01:10:04 and you just have to steal once because you steal once, then you have a file and then you can keep trading that file for more files. And by the end of the month, you can get like 200 gigabytes of content, which is about 30 hours or more of HD video or 50,000 pictures or more. People say it all starts slow. Some of them describe how they will ask their victims for very, like, they'll convince them to do dehumanizing things on a slow scale. So just like eating food off the floor. It's not the worst thing to do in the world. But it's definitely not something you would want out there.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And then it just starts escalating and escalating. If someone says that they're tired too early on or they don't want to send a video because they're going to sleep or some excuse like that, they'll just block them from the server. Either they think it's too much work to continue with this victim or they feel like that victim will suddenly feel the loss of their love bombing because it's not even just one user love bombing them.
Starting point is 01:11:01 A lot of the times they'll bring them into the group and like 10 members will praise them and love bomb them. And then suddenly it's all gone. So they're like, oh my gosh, well, I want that back. So now I'm going to try to reenter the group. And now I know I can't say no. One victim says they kept me in a cycle of praise and then they would stop it
Starting point is 01:11:21 and then they would ask for more just to restart the praise. She was 10 when she starts getting abused. one member says let's say you're a girl because I'm not extorting a boy this is a member of 764 if I were to it would be for an actual good reason but say you were a girl I would get into your head I would flirt with you make sure you're single and then I'll just act like I love you and stuff act all lovey-dovey and then I'll be like oh yeah I live in your town and I'm like oh my god I know what your area is is it by this like just Google earthing things oh yeah we should meet up and then once you get your address you'd be like if you don't do what I say I'm gonna come to
Starting point is 01:11:56 your fucking house and kill you. It's really not that hard. You just got to figure out the right people to do it to. Another says, it's mostly about bitches that send naked photos and shit online. So you would find their parents information and be like, oh yeah, I'm going to tell your parents. You got to get their trust first. You got to act like you're not going to do nothing to them. You got to promise it and then build up the relationship and then do it. Another person who calls himself the king of extortion would write many manuals for other members, which reads, playing into whatever your victim struggles with will lend you the best results. abuse the dopamine receptors by making them associate injuries with your voice or you telling them
Starting point is 01:12:31 what to do while they're self-pleasureing. This will only build further trust and you can add possible blackmail if you're looking to extort the victim. Make sure you archive everything they send you to add further to the blackmail and try to get them to trust you enough that they'll give you their full address to quote come over and see them in the future. This opens the doorway for doxing, which is perfect for extortion. They will say things like, I know. And I know all your names, your parents' names, your little brother's name. I know where they work. But I'm not going to do anything as long as you cooperate with me.
Starting point is 01:13:03 These are literal messages that they sent victims. I'm going to fuck up your life if you don't text me back today. I'm going to find you and I'm going to artwork you. One victim was forced to consume her father's ashes on a video chat. Another victim, she thought she was in love with Bradley Cadenhead, the founder. She just knew him online as Brad. She sent him intimate photos and from there, the blackmail just started amping up until one day she's live streaming onto the server, holding her family hamster in one hand. And his voice is laughing at her.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Are you crying? You just hear her sobbing. If you don't take a bite out of it, I'm going to make you do more fucked up shit than that, okay? Hurry up. Bite the head off or I'll fuck up your whole life. she was forced to bite her hamster's head off. Greta's mom stopped her from self-exiting. They went to the police who didn't really do anything.
Starting point is 01:14:03 In fact, Greta's school got just call after call about how Greta is a hamster killer, how Greta is all sorts of nasty things. There's also rankings of how members rank victims with the sentiment being, quote, if you could get a girl that was ungroomed, then groom her for the first time, that gave you extra status.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Other people are talking about how it really depends on how many you can get or the types of messages or the types of torture. People will say things like, we just want to see girls throw up and then eat their throw up, burn themselves with hot spoons, just like punching themselves for members. But they have rules that they go by. In one interview, a member of 764 says the only rule that you have to follow is just don't cock block another person's extort. like if someone's already working on a victim you don't get involved you just let them do it one victim describes it as a machine it's never going to be enough i mean as long as they keep you under their grasp they do it and there are only two ways out your parents find out and you go to the police or two you become too old for them to have fun anymore and one interesting thing to note is
Starting point is 01:15:10 these members will also extort each other with some of them saying hey you know what the best is if you get a seven six four member who's an older man that's married consuming the CSAM you find out he has a wife, boom, figure out where they live, figure out the wife's phone number, threatened to expose him to his wife, he will pay you a good amount of money. Probably more money than you'll make selling CSAM. Wow. Yeah. I like that one. Yeah. But it's crazy because they're lining the pockets of the CCM creators. So, well, not creators, but distributors. But I mean, the whole point of these groups is to cause pain and destruction. They just want to hurt people in the most depraved way possible until they self-exit. And if you're not giving them what they want, which is for you to
Starting point is 01:15:53 give your life, well, in one case, one 24-year-old man that was part of 764 in Arkansas, was arrested for plotting out how to murder a 14-year-old girl who refused to give him more blackmail material. Another man was arrested with him for producing, possessing CCM, and writing on Discord, quote, does anyone know anybody in redacted state that's willing to do kidnappings or shootings? I just need somebody to kill this girl's grandma for me to scare her. I'm going to get her grandma murked. It'll send the right message. Thankfully, you know, nothing happens to the grandmother, but to prove how serious he is, he doxes her with her full name, CSAM pictures, address, phone numbers, and all the names of every family member. But apparently that wasn't enough either because
Starting point is 01:16:33 she's still ignoring him. And allegedly, she gets a boyfriend. He starts posting on Discord servers. If I know someone in Redacted City who would let me stay at their house, I would actually be able to kill her while I hide. That's where she lives. Cops will go on her phone and see what my car looks like. I'm determined to die. If I got to kill her and can't let her fuck with dudes and girls while I'm sick and miserable, I'm going to live stream it. I want to kill them. Her and her whole family so bad. Just show up at their crib and just shoot 100 rounds and five seconds. I didn't want to do anything because I was scared of dying or prison, but now I'm determined to die. If I have to, after getting rid of her and her stupid boyfriend. Other members pitch in on how to
Starting point is 01:17:10 dissolve bodies in acid, which really only works in movies, but nevertheless. less. He starts getting a new phone number and harassing her with anonymous messages, threatening her, start sending her CCM photos to family members. He did not get to the point of physically harming her, although she is psychologically harmed, but he was arrested. In another instance, there's a recorded phone call of a girl, a member of 764, on the phone with a guy, convincing him to take more pills. So there are girls in there too. Yeah. Some of them are victims turn perpetrators. A lot of them are not, like the 15-year-old girl from Eastern Europe. And she's just saying, how many do you have? Okay, we'll take them. Talking about the pills.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Just take them. Come on. It's okay. Are you going to take another one? Literally in that tone. There are reports of a man, live streaming himself, dying in a closet, another from Canada with a gun, multiple reports of survivors of 764 stating they were forced to watch live streams of other victims, self-exiting, there are at least a dozen different accounts of different deaths. The FBI will not say definitively how many deaths are associated, but a survivor states they wanted you in the groups and they were going to ridicule you and torture you until you die. In the UK, a 764 member was arrested for trying to get a victim to live stream her exit. And during the police interrogation, he's asked,
Starting point is 01:18:32 the only thing you're concerned about is if she went through with it and if you got caught. Not about whether she's dead or not? he says I don't think about that kind of stuff in the moment it's just stupid I was just saying things without thinking so now 764 has all of these splinter groups some of them are bigger than others some of them are scarier than others but also 764 was inspired by another group so it's not like oh it's only 764 that exists and all these splinter groups
Starting point is 01:18:57 but they were inspired by another group called the order of the nine angles I know a lot of people call it angels it's angles apparently and the order of the nine angles is a blend of Satanism Neo-Nazism. Yeah, I think I also called it angels as well. It's very confusing, but I'm pretty sure it's angles. But it's a blend of Satanism, neo-Nazism, and a touch of just brain dead. They believe that Western society has been infected by Judeo-Christian religion and democracy and racial equality are ruining the human race in order to stop this contagion. The infection overtaking the human race, the only way to ensure the human race continues in the right direction
Starting point is 01:19:35 is to completely destroy society. They also believe in men. magic, which nothing is wrong with that. But they're like, hey, Judeo-Christianism is goofy. Meanwhile, they believe if you see a woman carrying around a severed head, you need to run the other way. Not because she's a criminal, not because you're hallucinating, but because she is a goddess, a deity, and you should run from her because she's very bad luck. And I think that should tell you they are not the brightest in the crayon box.
Starting point is 01:20:02 They're definitely the palest because they're very racist, but clearly not the brightest. because I don't, it's not that believing in goddesses or deities is goofy, but if you have to remind your followers, if you see a woman carrying a severed head, you must run, that is very alarmingly low survival instincts and brain activity. That is what 764 was inspired by. Operation Restore Justice was one of the largest coordinated operations against exploitation in FBI history every single one of the 55 field offices was participating in five days all around the u.s they arrested 205 people in association with 764 and associated groups when was this
Starting point is 01:20:45 this was like a few years ago but even to this day there are 10 new cases for FBI agents related to 764 and splinter groups every single week so it's like they had this massive operation they tried to target all of i think it was in 2022 2020 target all of the major players, but now there are new major players. And even like every time that they arrest one, they have an FBI, they put out an alert. And it's like last month they arrested one.
Starting point is 01:21:13 They arrested Bradley Cadenhead in 2021. And what happened to these people when they're arrested? Most of them will be serving the ones who have C-SAM and collect it. It's like 15 to 30 years is what I've seen so far. And then Bradley Cadenhead is, 80 years. So their main charges is carrying CSAM.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Distributing CSAM. And then the ones that are interacting a lot with victims, it's a lot of heavier charges. Yeah. But a lot of them are just spreading CSAM. And they're adapting. One post reads, due to recent fettings and the telegram founder giving into the police and giving them higher powers over telegram, extortion is at a massive halt. We're in a new era, which is very optimistic.
Starting point is 01:22:05 764 is taking a break. A lot of well-known admins like risky, trippy, fail, refusal, praise. These are admin names. And like I said, it's different from Anthrum, where they have these key figures that everybody knows. They've decided to take a break due to recent circumstances. I wouldn't advise any new gens waiting to join as the current moment in time is very hot right now. If you're currently farming content or getting content,
Starting point is 01:22:28 I would strongly suggest hold on to it, stay low for a bit, don't upload it. until everything has cooled off. Stay safe people to clarify, 764 is not disbanding, we're chilling, and any other rumors are false. Crazy. This is back in when the whole operation happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And they put out alerts like this every time there's like a new wave of federal arrest. They say for every Discord server they shut down, one law enforcement officer says, it's like two more pop up. And sometimes they're worse than the original one that they just shut down. like no lives matter i mean they idolize death that's it they do everything 764 does but on top of
Starting point is 01:23:09 that they want members to go out and kill people i wonder like you know how a i is like coming out like i wonder if that's one good thing it's okay i can prevent oh to track down right because it's like okay one of the limitations there are so many sick people out there and the fbi i agent is that it's hard to keep up right yeah like there's not enough mods they're not even enough this Because this is just so alarming that they can just keep getting away with this. The problem is I don't know if there's money and stopping it. Because the only AI associated with this case that I was reading about is a father who was arrested for being a 764 member who made AI videos replicated after his underage daughter. So I think AI is actually like sometimes with these people, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I don't know if the government is willing to spend that kind of money. Because it would have to be the government that spends that money. I mean, who has that kind of money? Yeah. And I don't think the government cares. Damn. I mean, they care, but I don't think they care that much. And it's just crazy how quickly they move on.
Starting point is 01:24:22 So there was one highly anticipated launch of a splinter group called 5150, but within 24 hours that group is shut down because they also monitor the members that are joining their group. And they realized that one of the members had gone in and was watching CSAM without a VPN. So they had their home IP address. So they're like, okay, now we're cooked, as they say. So they shut it down. And then they started a new one.
Starting point is 01:24:48 But now we probably don't know what the new one is. And it's just getting more sick. Some of the members are taunting and they say, because of all the tension on 764, which a lot of people are trying to draw attention because it shows people where to look out full. but he says you ever just want to a minor in front of people that hate you like they're so spiteful of society some of them like the notoriety they just like how crazy things are there was one who started threatening a reporter who was one of the first few on the seven six four case and they threatened to arward her in front of her entire family before killing her and a baby
Starting point is 01:25:26 and there is just one very sick message in one of the Discord service that reads for years we have taken part in countless actions and provocations on social media and in real life for years we've had the wrong people arrested except for those who needed to be caught we directed them to the wrong people so we have not been caught for years you cannot find us we are everywhere our actions will no longer be limited to these we will go even further We will create fake accounts, fake groups, fake platforms, and will continue to establish and make it harder for you to find us. You said we can't kill animals, we killed.
Starting point is 01:26:05 You said that pedophilia content can't be created and published? We created and published. We will always exist. You cannot stop us. Leave your research and finding efforts aside. You are working in vain. Let's answer the most talked about questions. Yes, we are funded.
Starting point is 01:26:20 We are supported by famous artists and politicians, including abroad and domestically. Say what you want, but you can't find it. And because you can't find it, you will not find it. Even if we give you the information, you will not be able to destroy us. We will always exist and your efforts are in vain. If you catch a group and you close it down, we will emerge with other groups. Our real organization has yet to emerge and we will emerge at the necessary time and place. The FBI Child Exploitation Operational Unit estimates that thousands of kids have been targeted and victimized.
Starting point is 01:26:52 She says, people are not understanding the severity, the speed at which their children can be victimized. These are offenders that have the ability to change your child's life in a matter of minutes. These online groups are responsible for some of the most egregious online enticement reports that we're seeing in terms of what these children are coerced into doing. Take it seriously. It is believed that Discord removed over 130 servers, similar to 764, banned over 34,000 accounts, but they still keep going. Samuel's former teacher says he was brilliant. He was curious and eccentric and really like all people know about him now is that he self-immolated but she says a teacher hopes to get one or two like Samuel in their whole career. He was actually valedictorian at his high school
Starting point is 01:27:40 and went on to study biochemistry at the University of Minnesota. He did have a big life event at 18 where he decided to transition. He was assigned female at birth but everything fell apart during COVID lockdowns. He dropped out of university, broke up with his his long-term partner, cut off all communications with his family, and the last text message from his mom on his phone reads, I will always be available for you, my darling. And Samuel's mom, she seems really sweet. She even forgives Diane, the 15-year-old girl. She says, I feel this person herself was vulnerable in terms of being conditioned to search
Starting point is 01:28:17 for belonging by harming someone else. I hope that she finds a more healthy state of mind. she's saying to do that you're already not okay Trinity's mom states I felt helpless and scared and I was so sad for her and I just didn't know I didn't know what to do I wanted them to find evidence that Trinity was being explet I wanted them find evidence of all the CSAM
Starting point is 01:28:40 I knew she wasn't the only one I wanted them to find it all and I will never forget those pictures they are imprinted into my brain and burned into my brain for the rest of my life another victim's mom says I don't mean to be pessimistic but at this point in time it just feels like it's too big it's just like this disease that has spread throughout the world
Starting point is 01:29:02 it could be the kid next door in their bedroom who is doing the most horrific things to another kid on the other side of the world and the parents would never know Trinity says I had no other option but to give them what they wanted to quit or tap out so I thought I was rescued and I was taught how to fight.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Now I will never stop fighting for myself and for others because I'm a survivor and you can be too. And that is the current ongoing case of 764. What are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments. Please be safe and I will see you in the next run.

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