Rotten Mango - #5- The Hello Kitty Murder

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

The decapitated head of a woman was found sewn into a giant Hello Kitty doll...  The rest of her body was missing. A 14 year old girl claims to have been haunted by her ghost. BUT IT GETS WEIRDER...�� If you love Hello Kitty - this one might give you some nightmares.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Rotten Mango. And I think that we are on episode five. If I'm not mistaken, which are honestly surprised that I haven't missed a week. So kudos to Stephanie. on episode 5 if I'm not mistaken which are honestly surprised that I haven't missed a week so kudos to sefney see if you're doing the absolute bear fucking minimum welcome case sir welcome to today's amazing podcast today's podcast is brought to you by my wiggly ass toes we have no ads on this video I'm really excited because I kind of have a reason why I mean this podcast is gonna to get dark.

This is going to be one of my darker podcast, which sounds crazy because we've already talked about. Today's story? Yeah, the Toybox Killer. We've done the case of June Go. We've done all of these different cases, but let me just kind of put a picture into your mind. Wherever you are, whether you're driving right now or laying in your bed or washing your face. In vision, your favorite stuffed animal. Is it one of those big ass teddy bears from Costco?

What's your favorite stuffed animal? And imagine being 14 years old and looking at that stuffed animal, and then knowing that there is a decapitated head, just rotting inside of that stuffed animal. That there were three men who opened up your favorite stuffed animal, then placed inside of it, a decapitated severed decomposing head of a female that they had murdered after torturing her for a month. How would that make you feel? It's just sitting in your room across from you, staring at you, watching you, listening to you. That's exactly what happened to a 14-year-old in Hong Kong.

Now, for lots of legal purposes, her name has been hidden by the court system in Hong Kong, and we're just gonna call her Annie, okay? They called her Afang in all of the court, A-H-F-O-N-G. Afung? Afung? I think Afung is like a nickname for a girl.

Okay, so the court system gave her this as a pseudonym, and that's pretty much all that she went by. So legally, her name has not been disclosed because of her age, and because of how the rest of this trial went down. Let's get into one of the most gruesome cases that has been so highly requested and it happened in a city which actually surprisingly has an incredibly low crime rate. That is the city of Hong Kong. Really?

Yeah, Hong Kong compared to New York and LA is insane. I believe per capita, the murder rate in Hong Kong, per 100,000 people is about 1.5 or something. Yeah, so what an a half people die. Are 100,000 people? Yeah, and New York is around, I think, three per 100,000 people. And Los Angeles comes in hot at around six something, per 100,000 people. And then I always thought about it.

I was like, you know, that's crazy because a lot of the times my family is like, oh, well, I'm just kind of glad that you're not in New York. LA sounds safer. Come to find out. There's a lot more murders in LA per capita, but also in the great, wonderful peachy state that I grew up in. Atlanta, Georgia's rate is 17 points, something per 100,000 people 17 17 Atlanta, yeah, man. I knew there's something wrong What with me You're like you were born in race in Atlanta no wonder you tend to have a little murderous

I'm just kidding This all starts with a 14 year old. I mean the one thing that you're gonna notice about this case. Oh by the way This is the Hello Kitty murder Such a cute name. Yeah, and I think that's also why it became so famous internationally because you have a Decapitated head and then you also have Hello Kitty Which is something that's internationally well known and associated with just Cuddly cuteness, but then you're also like oh why there's a severed head inside of it I mean I find I find Hello Kitty to be creepy already really why the cat doesn't have a mouth oh my gosh how the hell

does she eat you have a very weird logical brain it's freaking creepy it's just cute doll honey so this all starts with a 14-year-old in May 1999 in Hong Kong. This 14-year-old by the name of Annie, she walks into the Hong Kong police station and it's almost anti-colomactic for such an insane case. And she says, hello, police, I'd like to file a statement. And so the police are kind of looking at her thinking, okay, maybe it's going to be some sort of report of domestic abuse between her parents. Now, to their shock, her statement was completely different from that.

She walked in and she did ask, said, okay, so listen, police officers, I've got some shit I need to tell you. And they're like, okay, little lady, what's going on? And she's like, so for the past several weeks, I am being haunted by a ghost. I feel like she won't leave me alone and I need you guys to help me. I don't know what to do.

They're like, what are you talking about? And she's like, okay, so it's this woman and she's a ghost, obviously. And she's like kind of bound by this electrical wire, so she has all of these electrical wires all over her body. And the way that she died was that she was tortured to death and now she's a ghost obviously because she's dead and she's Hunting me. I don't know what to do The police are sitting there and they're like writing this statement up and they drop their pen in between because they're like We're not writing this fucking statement. This is not a statement I mean, where are your parents little girl like you need to stop watching TV

You need to stop reading creepy books at night. You need to stop watching Stephanie so is mukbangs late at night What are you doing miss and so they all thought it was gibberish until she was like no, I swear you need to come to my apartment She's haunting me. She's haunting me. The police were like okay, listen Let's just go to her apartment because maybe she's being abused Maybe she's being drugged up by her parents. Maybe there's just heavy signs of neglect or something because, and so they were like, okay, let's go to the her apartment. They pack all their stuff, they go into the apartment,

and they're looking around, and they honestly completely believe that this was complete gibberish until they kind of got a little bit curious. In the Calune district, it's kind of like a rundown area in the city. And inside of her tiny little apartment, they were just kind of wondering, well, we don't see the woman.

And why would this woman be haunting you anyway? Like, they were trying to kind of bring some logical sense into the little girl. They were like, you have to have a reason. She said, no, she's haunting me because I actually helped murder her. And they're like, what? What did you just say? She's like, well, it kind of tortured her a little bit before she died. Who's the woman? I'm going to get into work.

And she's like, well, I kind of helped torture her when she was alive. I was the one that found her dead. And they're like, what? She's like, yeah, a couple months ago. Um, I thought I was for fun, really? But then she ended up dying and now she's haunting me. They're looking around this room and they're trying to understand truly,

is this girl on drugs or is this a real story? Was this 14 year old an accomplice to torture and murder. That's freaking nuts. And they look around and they see this Hello Kitty doll. And it's a giant Hello Kitty doll. It's almost like the size of the 14 year old girl. And this Hello Kitty doll is kind of intriguing because it's not a regular Hello Kitty

shape. It's actually a Hello Kitty mermaid. Hello Kitty mermaid. So it's the Hello Kitty face, but with mermaid tail, right? And so they're like, okay, that's a little bit weird. And the 14 year old girl keeps looking at the Hello Kitty doll. And so they're like, obviously, something weird is happening inside of this doll. And so the police didn't really think that once they opened up that doll, that they were going to find anything.

But sure enough, they were like, little girl, don't worry, we're just going to open it up. But sure enough they were like little girl don't worry. We're just gonna open it up So they open up that shed and as they're busting it open Out comes the head of a woman decapitated Missing her lower jaw just kind of missing her lower jaw Yeah, and the crazy thing is like the head to not plop out of the Hello Kitty doll Like I would imagine because it was so not plop out of the Hello Kitty doll like I would imagine because it was so Into the head of the Hello Kitty. They took the time to sew the head in

No, freaking way. Yeah, I mean, I mean I don't really have that much experience with it But I assume you do it with like a sewing needle The rest of the body parts were not found inside of that Hello Kitty doll and I'm going to get into all of the white, right? Before we get into the why we need to know who, who was this woman, who was this severed head, who did this head belong to, and why was this, why was she murdered, and why was she inside of this 14 year old girl's room inside of a Hello Kitty doll? Like none of this is making sense. The police are hoping, I mean I think think everyone at this point, all fingers crossed, are trying to hope that this 14-year-old just was walking down the street, saw a cute little store with Hello Kitty little things in it. She walked in, saw this Hello Kitty mermaid,

was like, I gotta have it. She purchased it, brought it back home. And then suddenly some weird shit started happening in her life, and she was like, wait a second, this is the only reason. It started with that Hello Kitty's, look at its a second. This is the only reason it started with that Hello Kitty doll look at its eyes. Its eyes are so emotional. It's got to be the Hello Kitty doll She tells her parents her parents are like you listen you're losing your marbles I don't believe you and so she felt the need she felt the need to make up this massive story About how she helped murder a woman just so the police will look into the haunting of the Hello Kitty doll. And coincidentally, for some reason,

there was a head inside the Hello Kitty doll. I mean, I think that at that point, that is what every single person was wishing for on the face of this planet. Because how can you even wrap your head around the fact that a 14-year-old participated in the active murder and the active torturing of another human being. And so- And so-

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And so- And so- And so- And so- And so- more if I'm a serial killer in the making, I'm not entirely sure. That's a joke, by the way. I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure that they soat the head into the Hello Kitty dolls so that it wouldn't bobble. Bobble is not the right word because it sounds like bobble head. Let me rephrase that. He's laughing because of how ridiculous I am right now. Bobble is not the right word because when you pick up a doll and you hear, okay, like a rattle, then you might feel this compulsive need to open it up and see what's rattling. Because there shouldn't be anything rattling inside of a Hello Kitty doll.

Yeah. And so I think that's why they sewed the head in there, right? And there was no other body parts found inside of that Hello Kitty doll. So they thought, you know what, this 14-year-old came to the police station, told us this story turned out to be true. So why don't we just ask her? Why don't we just ask her if she knows who's inside this doll? So they sit her down and they say, hey little girl Annie, do you know who that woman is? Do you know who that head belongs to? And she's like, well yes and no.

I'm not really close to her. My boyfriend was close with her. I mean, this story just gets weirder. So this 14 year old now has a boyfriend who is also now involved in this murder, right? My boyfriend was a lot closer to her, and she works at the local nightclub as a hostess, and she's 23 years old, and her name is Fan Man Yi. Now I think that they speak primarily Cantonese in Hong Kong, and I'm pretty sure I'm pronouncing it wrong, so I'm going to call our fun for the rest of this video okay. I mean there's just so much to dissect in that statement itself like why was she, what

is going on? Why is she dating someone who knows this waitress at a nightclub? I mean y'all are 14. Before we get into all of that, because I will get into all of that, let's get into fun mani's childhood. And normally I like to go into the victim's childhood because it really just gives a lot of perspective on who this person is. And I feel like it also takes away from the aspect where people could be like, well, you

know what, that could never happen to me because ABC and D. And if I just started this story with fun when she was working at the nightclub, there were a lot of people on the internet that don't have as much sympathy for fun. So I think it all starts with our childhood. We should all have a little sympathy. So let's start with fun's childhood. So Fan Man Yee was 23 when she was murdered. And when she was younger, she was kind of abandoned by her family as a child. They just placed her inside of a girl's orphanage. Like they were just like, okay, goodbye. They left her there, and the girl's orphanage took her in

and that kind of sounds like a sweet story, but it's really not, because this orphanage was just overrun by people. It was kind of corrupt. There was a lot of girls there. There was really no sense of family, community, team work, like nothing like that, okay? And so with this type of environment, when she was a teenager, she started developing massive drug addictions. And when I say massive, I don't mean she smoked weed on the weekends with her friends.

She like drank on the weekends with her friends. She was doing crystal meth. I don't even know how crystal meth is done. I wanted to say storted, but then I was like, is it shot? I don't know. She had developed this crazy addiction to crystal meth. And we were talking about this a couple days ago about how a lot of Asian countries are actually so much stricter with drugs. So even in the US saying someone does crystal meth is like, oh my goodness, right? But in Asia, someone doing weed is the same reaction to Americans doing methods like oh my goodness

Like method fed I mean really? Worse in certain countries. Yeah, you found weed that's a that's a death sentence right there. Yeah, I think there are several Asian countries that have Yeah, a lot of punishments for weed. And so she has this massive crystal meth addiction and I don't really know the market price for crystal meth but I can only imagine even like a bag of skittles is kind of expensive for a teenager and so she was like I need a way to fund this addiction. And it sounds crazy when you say like that but the reason is that her life is pretty miserable I mean she didn't have a family. She had all of this emotional trauma from

Understanding what happened to her. I mean once your teenager and you realize whoa my parents did not want me like They just left me here. They didn't give a fuck. They never reached out. They don't care about my well-being I mean there's a lot of trauma associated with it and she just felt like Crystal meth was her only form of happiness. As a teenager with very little educational background, like no way to get a job, she decided that she would turn to prostitution to pay for this habit. It gets like worse, it gets progressively sadder. And so at this point, she's like 20 years old, right? She had spent most of her teenage years just into this vicious cycle of prostitution and drug abuse and just repeat and repeat and repeat. And then finally, when she was around 20 years old, she met someone. And a lot of people kind of felt like, ooh, this could be the turning point for her life.

You know, everybody always has that one moment where they're just kind kind of waking out of this funk where they're just waking up from this crazy lifestyle that they were leaving and Maybe this was her moment, right? She found happiness in this person. They ended up getting married and they ended up getting pregnant So she gives birth to a little baby son and What's crazy is once she found out that she was pregnant? She was like, well, I can't do this. I can't do meth anymore. Like, I can't do drugs anymore.

I gotta turn my life around. If I don't want my son to have the same life that I had growing up, I can't repeat this cycle. And so she completely stopped doing meth according to all of her friends that were near and dear to her. She stopped doing any sort of drugs. She really was just trying to get her life back.

But the problem was, her husband was a raging addict. So I mean, it didn't seem like her husband had the same intentions. It didn't seem like he also wanted to get clean for his son. He also wanted to change things around. And so he was just doing meth around the kid with the kid, like, we'll not with the kid, but like watching the kid doing math, you know? Yeah. And this was hard for her because that's her kid, but also she's an addict.

I mean, he's doing the one thing that she desperately wants to do, but can't do, and I'm sure he's enabling her. What's even more alarming is that not only was he doing all of that, right? There was also non-stop calls from their neighbors saying that, hey, I hear signs of domestic abuse. I hear women getting beat right now. I hear women screaming for her life right now. I mean, this is crazy. There's already so many reports from the Hong Kong police

that they had gotten so many calls for domestic violence. She decides, I can't do this anymore. I just can't. I mean, I can't have this husband who is doing math all the time in front of my kid. I can't get beat every day. I got to change my life. And so she took her little baby boy and she left. She divorced her husband.

And this is going to prove to be really, really difficult. And so at the age of 23 years old, she ends up securing a weight-tracing job at a nightclub Which I'm sure it's so hard to find work But like the nightclub is gonna be the worst environment to be in right and I'm sure she knows that too She's battling this addiction. She's battling heartbreak Which if you guys don't know anything about addicts or recovering addicts is that when you have anything that is Very personal and dear to you, like if you are a recovering addict and you've been sober for a while, but then maybe a loved one passes away or

something a catastrophe happens. It's the first thing you want to do is go back to your old ways because that's the only time that you remember getting a glimpse of instant happiness. Her heart break, her battling her addiction, she's now a single mom of a one-year-old boy and she's still partaking in prostitution. I mean this is kind of like this tornado of life had just struck her really hard and I don't want to say this because I feel like sometimes it can be used as an excuse but I do feel like fun was just dealt some really shitty cards. I don't think any of these were necessarily, I mean they were, but I don't really see them as her choices. Yeah. Because of the cards she was dealt. Yeah it's like for someone to be in that

kind of environment growing up it's easy for anybody to say oh why can you just get your life together but I'm sure it's not that easy, like people imagine here, right? Yeah, and I also think maybe in a place like Hong Kong, it's a lot more difficult. Oh, yeah. She gets this hostessing job and she's going to meet someone at this job. His name is Chan Man Locke and he is not the man. He is not Chan, the fucking man.

We're just going to call him Chan for the rest of today's video. And he's a 34 year old drug dealer. And I wouldn't even say that this is a match made in hell. I kind of would compare her relationship with her former husband as like a match made in hell. They're both, you know, addicts. They do this. They're enabling each other. And it's just kind of stirring this fire, right? But Chan is kind of just Lucifer himself that just walked into this nightclub. And they felt like they had a lot in common because she was a part-time prostitute, Chan was a PIM. She was a drug abuser and Chan was a drug dealer. They quickly made a very interesting friendship and it was going to be a

friendship that was going to prove to be really bad because Chan was enabling her to do drugs again because that would make him a lot of money. He sells crystal meth. You see this woman who's like, oh listen, I'm a recovering addict. I'm trying to get my life together. He's like, what do you mean? It's just one dose honey. Like, he was just helllla persuading her right and so they are just gonna be always seen together And to give you an idea of how creepy this man lock person is um Chan right He lives in this beautiful five bedroom apartment He lives in the shopping district of Hong Kong, but what's inside of that apartment is so fucking alarming if I had a Five bedroom apartment in Hong Kong. what would you guys fill it with?

You'd probably fill it with some, I don't know, some decorative, some DIYs, some target bases, some fake P&E flowers, whatever the case may be, right? But this 34 year old man, who definitely has enough money, he decides to fill it with the teenager's dream. He's 34 by the way. But his entire apartment, He decides to fill it with the teenager's dream.

He's 34 by the way, but his entire apartment was covered with Hello Kitty. Oh my God, is this where this is Hello Kitty? Holy cow. His sheets, his curtains, his towels, his silverware. He had a large collection of Hello Kitty and friends, Hello Kitty and company. Just giant size dolls, small size dolls, big size dolls. Wait, what does that mean? He just has a obsession with Hello Kitty. See, that's what I thought, but that's not the case. It's because he was a pimp to a lot of underage girls.

So he will have a lot of 13 year olds over. He will. Oh my god, that's so freaking crazy. Yeah, so at first I was like, okay, this is kind of almost comical at this mean bad drug dealer, but he's like obsessed with Hello Kitty. I thought it was gonna be like one of those like, oh, like that's kind of weird,

but no, it's actually so dark. He did that because he has a lot of underage girls that he pints out. So he has no interest in the Hello Kitty himself? Yeah, not really. Wow. Yeah, and so he did this two in tights girls because when you're 13, I mean, I went through a Hello Kitty phase, and it was really intense. I remember there was a McDonald's toy, like in their hobby meal,

they had these Hello Kitty watches, and I would go to McDonald's every single day with my mom, and she would make me promise that I wouldn't eat the happy meal Because she didn't want me eating McDonald's, but she would get me the toy Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and so I mean I could only imagine how intriguing that would be for a lot of girls at age He had filled it with that But he also filled it with things that he liked which primarily were video games and pornography And he would a lot of the times would kind of cycle out young girls living with him. Like he would have 14 year olds living with him, he would have 13 year olds living with him.

So this guy is a drug dealer, a pimpe, and a fucking palo file. Yeah. And the 14 year old girl who walked into the police station was his girlfriend at the time. He's 34, she's 14. Holy moly. Yeah. And so that friendship starts developing. And it's going to be a friendship that proves to be really detrimental because I mean, he is just sweeping, he's sweeping fan back into this world filled with drugs, filled with prostitution. Just she's spending more time being a prostitute than she is being a hostess at the nightclub now. She's spending a lot more money on drugs again and I mean it's just

it's taking over her life. Yeah these these pimps just I think they're the grossest human beings. Yeah. It's just taking a advantage of people, you know, at their weakest day and just making money off it. It's so gross. And so they meet and they start developing this crazy friendship. And then something really bad happens. It's something about a wallet. Fan wakes up one day and she realizes, okay, I spent all of my money on all of this, okay? So, and all my money on Crystal Mat, I spent all of my money on ABC&D. I've got to pay rent before we get kicked out of here. I've got to buy my kid ABC&D, I need to put food on the table and she was just really desperate. And so she's like, okay, what do I do? What do I do?

And I think it was kind of in a drug-dosed state that she decided while she was hanging out with Chan and there are two other friends. Okay, so these two friends, I'm not gonna call them by any names. I'm just gonna call them Hunchman number one and Hunchman number two because that's what they were. They were just Hunchmen and they were all part of a triad. Hunchmen is just like people who do your gangster work in a gangster group. So they're like the ones that will do all of the heavy lifting. Like they're the ones that will go and bring someone to you. You know, in all those movies, like the boss just sits around and then suddenly these two dudes like drag in somebody by their arms.

And they're like, no, I'm sorry, like these were those dudes. They work for a chair? Yeah. And so, henchmen number one and henchmen number two. And I don't think I've mentioned this, but it wasn't mentioned a lot in the cases that I was reading about this like all of the I was trying to read all of these like translated articles but they were part of the triad triad is kind of like the equivalent of the yakuza in Japan or like the mafia in Italy

mm-hmm they were part of the triad what I say that they're very smart intellectual human beings who were part of the upper lead of the triad? No, but they were just like the drug dealers at the bottom of the ranks, right? And so he has these two hunchmen and they would always hang out. And so one day it's Chan, henchmen number one, henchmen number two, and Fawn hanging out. And Fawn decides that she's gonna steal his wallet. She needed the money. Drugs really changed your brain chemistry, especially when you're on them, but a lot of these like hardcore drugs will change your brain chemistry for the rest of your life. And she just, I guess she wasn't thinking straight. And so she felt like that was the only

option that she could have. And so she steals his wallet. Inside of it was about $4,000 US dollars in cash. At that point, that's a lot of money. That is a lot of money. Back in the days. Yeah. Even more. Yeah. And she almost immediately realizes what the fuck did I do. She like has this moment of like, I messed up beyond belief.

Like this is the last thing I want to do This is the worst thing I could do. What was I thinking right and so she's like I'm not gonna go blow this money I'm not gonna spend this money. You know what okay? This is what I'm gonna do obviously I cannot face Chan because he's gonna be mad He's not gonna be the type that's like you made an mistake. I forgive you. We're friends remember He's gonna be the type that's like I want to chop off your hands And so she was like I need to do something I need to do something quick We're friends, remember? He's gonna be the type that's like, I wanna chop off your hands. And so she was like, I need to do something,

I need to do something quick. And so she doesn't show up for her job, she just ends up going to do a lot of sex work. And she stacks up a bunch of money because this is how scared she was. Just to give you guys the direct numbers of her fear, she wanted to return the $4,000. But she felt like as a drug

dealer, the only way that he would accept it and not try to hurt her was if she paid interest for that $4,000. And the interest that she wanted to pay him was $10,000. She stole $4,000, she would return the $4,000 and throw an extra 10k on top thus returning $14,000 in total. So she was able to save up $10,000. She finally showed up at his doorstep, tail tucked between our legs and said, hey listen, I Made a really bad mistake. Like I know where friends. I know you're mad But I I wanted to get you good interest, I didn't even just

double it, like I did the best that I could, I've been working like day and night since the minute that I took your wallet because I knew I messed up, like I'm so freaking sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. And he looks at the money. No mind you, I mean I don't know how to emphasize this enough. He lost 4,000, gained 14,000. I mean, Warren Buffett is fucking shaking right now, okay? But he looks at her and he goes, well, here's the thing. I don't think that's enough.

I don't think that's enough for betraying our friendship. Do you? How about this? How about you bring me another 16,000 and I'll forgive you and I want to buy this time And so we had it set a timeline right and I don't know how extensive that timeline was But there was definitely a timeline right okay, and she was like okay Let me try my best and so she leaves She still has all of her bills to pay. She still has all of these things. she's got to do and she starts doing more sex work.

Now at this point, there was, there just was no way. She could not come up with the $16,000. And so Chan got really mad. He told Henshmen number one and Henshmen number two, hey, if Fawn does not bring me the money by the end of today, I want you to go to her workplace and I want you to kidnap her. And I said, okay, what's the plan boss? And he said, well, here's the plan. I mean, she's a prostitute and I'm a pimp. So I'm going to pimp her out and make my money back for 16K. Even though he already had already made his money back plus way more, he was

like, I'm going to make my 16K back by pimping her out, that's my job. So that was gonna be $4,000 and $26,000 in interest. What kind of fucking, I mean, they can't not per. And they bring her to the five bedroom apartment in the shopping district of Hong Kong. And she's like, okay, like I'm so freaking sorry, I couldn't come up with the money. Like just give me an extra week, like just give me an extra week, I'll have the money, I'll have the money. And they said, no, like, OK, I'm so freaking sorry. I couldn't come up with the money. Just give me an extra week. Just give me an extra week.

I'll have the money. I'll have the money. And they said, no, no, no. We don't need you to talk all this talk, girl. We're just going to send you out into the streets. And we're going to pinp you out to our clients. And we're going to make the 16K. And then you can go free, right?

And she was like, well, I guess it's kind of, I mean, it's not the same, but I guess it's kind of the same, but like, what about my son? And so she had all of these concerns. And they were like, well, let's think about it later after we take a hit of meth. What? Okay.

And so they all get high on meth. And this is when the plan changes. Once they started doing that meth, they had a complete change of plans. I mean, I really don't know what meth does to you, but apparently it makes you fucking psychotic because these three men decided hey now that we're high Suddenly it seems so funny. You know what seems funny beating the shit out of her that seems kind of funny And they're all like sitting there like that doesn't kind of fun

They're like let's just do it whatever like you only live once fucking high out of their minds On meth they end up taking turns beating her I mean she was really really badly beat she wasn't tortured she wasn't near death But she was badly beat and so then they realize holy shit We can't force her into prostitution right now because she's so beat up like nobody's gonna want to pay to have sex with the women which is like bruises all over her body. I mean this is just not good for business. They're like well if we can't make her a prostitute for our money back, let's just keep her here and let's just torture her.

Like I just don't even understand how the mindset works. I mean there's so many similarities to the Junco case because Junco that you were dealing with these young boys who said they were part of the Junco case because Junco, you were dealing with these young boys who said they were part of the Yucusa. With this case, you're dealing with full grown men that say that they're part of a triad, right? And so at this point, for the next one month, for the next 30 days, I mean, they're gonna rape her,

they're gonna burn her skin. And the way that they burn her skin was very, very strange to me because in the case of Junco a lot of it was like gasoline or a lighter fuel and then just kind of setting her on fire which I think is the worst way right and I thought that was just a little bit strange but this is even stranger what they would do is they would buy a bunch of plastic straws like the ones that you get when you order a fucking boba tea like those big thick plastic straws Yeah, and they would melt it with a lighter. Oh, man, and they would put it Let the plastic melt onto her skin

Oh And then once she was blistered they would peel the plastic off They would go into their kitchen, grab chili oil, and rub it into her wounds. What the fuck is this? And then sometimes if they were like, that's not enough, they would also pour that chili oil into her eyes. Why are people getting off on stuff like this?

I don't know. Is there, I I mean what is this? There must be in joint satisfaction that they're getting out of this. This is crazy. And then they would break all of their fingers. Oh, they would tie her wrist together with electrical wire. Remember that when she walked into the police station and they would hang her from the ceiling Very similar to Junco and then they would continue to beat her with whatever they had in the house So what was interesting is they really kind of beat her with household objects

Which is really just why would you go through all of that? So they would even flip over a table unscrew unscrew the table legs. I mean, who has the energy for that on a normal day, right? Unscrew the table legs, suspend her from the ceiling, and then beat her with a table leg, and then would put it back onto the table, and then flip the table back over. See, this is, yeah, this is similar to the jungle case. Yeah, they're doing all of that. And they would even do really, really humiliating things. And this is where the 14 year old girl comes in She was often at that apartment building because she was dating 34 year old Chan as a 14 year old

But what's worse than that and this is where she is a victim in my eyes is that well first of all She's 14 and this 34 year old is dating her that she's already a victim in my eyes, right? But on top of that, he was somehow mentally manipulating her and grooming her, and she was also one of his prostitutes. And she would partake in the beatings. She testified in court and she said, you know, one time I walked in and Chan was just kicking her in the head, like full force, like a soccer ball, like 50 times in a row. And I went over and I started smacking her head with my hand too and the police asked her like Why did you do that and her answer is so fucking chilling?

She stared at the police and she said I had a feeling it was for fun It's like this little 14 year old girl is not doing anything because she wants to do it She's just doing it because this 34-year-old man Had mentally manipulated her so much into just doing whatever he was doing or doing whatever He told her to do and then she would find a reason for why she did it. Yeah, yeah She's I mean she's heavily influenced by him. Yeah, this is where it gets really bad They would urinate into her mouth. See, that's just like why? They're trying to get a reaction.

All three of them. And if she were to even spill a drop, they would beat her up. And then they would ask the 14 year old girl to poo inside of a box. No. And she would do it. and then they would feed it to fun. They made her drink motor oil. They would beat her senseless. And then after they beat her, they would go and they would play video games. I mean, I'm just, I don't even know what to say. video games. I mean, I'm just, I don't even know what to say. I feel, what do I feel like this is not the only victim then? If they do these crazy out of the, like, I feel like they've got to. Yeah. I don't know. And I mean, it's just going to get darker from here. So they did this for the next 30 days, one month of just

pure torture. There is less about this case than Junco's case online that I could translate. I have a feeling that the torture is a lot worse and a lot more extensive than I just mentioned, even though this is already so freaking bad as it is. And then one day, they came home from the nightclub. They came home from like going to all these arcades. And the 14 year old girl was fast asleep. And the 14 year old is home with them? Yeah. OK.

And she wakes up, the 14 year old Annie, she wakes up, and she goes over to fun and realizes that she's cold. And she's not moving. So she calls all the guys, she's like, what's going on? What's going on? Like, Chan, Chan, like, I don't know what's happening. I mean, I'm 14. Like, I don't know what's happening. Like, I would never think that a 14 year old could register that in her head, right? And so she's like, guys, like, do we need a ticket to a hospital? Like, what's going on, right? And so Chan and the henchmen look at the 14 year old girl and they're like oh don't worry about it sweetie like this is totally fine do you want to know what happened and I think this was around

the time that the little girl was starting to get a lot of remorse in guilt because I think prior to this she was just so groomed and so heavily manipulated that she didn't realize what the fuck was going on until she saw that there was a dead human body in front of her. And so she's like kind of freaking out. And Chan is telling her, don't worry about it, sweetie. She's dead, but it's not because of you and it's not because of me.

I actually saw her giving herself a crazy dose of methamphetamine. And so obviously she overdosed. And so all of these men are like, obviously, and they're all buying each other's story. I don't know why, I mean, it's just creepy to me, okay? Yeah. They're like, well, what should we do? And all of the reports are saying that they were fucking nonchalant about all of this.

Yeah, so she's dead. Um, what now? What do we, what do you think we should do? One kind of hungry should we eat before we think about what to do? They just kind of left her body laying there while they were just casually going about their day and thinking about I'll think about it when I think about it, right? And then they got a very big scare Underneath their apartment complex on one floor belief beneath theirs There was a influx of police like there was just police all over the building, right?

And they had come to investigate a rape charge. Now this rape that happened inside the building was completely unrelated to the rape and torture and murder of fun, but they just got really spooked. They were like, listen, we don't wanna get our apartment searched and then find this body. Like that's not gonna be a good look. So we gotta do something about this.

And so at this point, they decide to, I don't even know the word, is it decomposed? Is it disposed? I mean, I guess it would be disposed in this situation. They decide to dispose of the body. Now what's crazy is that this is actually gonna help them later in trial. Help who?

The three dudes, and I'm so mad about it. Okay. No one really knows why Fond died. No one really knows how. No one knows if it was from the torture. No one knows if she succumbed her injuries. It's all speculation at this point. No one knows if she did overdose.

No one knows any of this because immediately after the police had invaded the second or the other floor apartment, right, they started getting really creeped out. And so Chan looks at the two henchmen and he says, okay, henchmen number one, henchmen number two, I needed you to go grab that saw. that saw that we have I need you to take her body into the bathtub and dismember her I don't really do a lot of stories where the criminal will dismember their victim because there's not a lot of people who will dismember their victim it takes a lot of time and it takes a lot of strength. Breaking a bone is easy, but breaking down all of the bones in your body is not easy.

Yeah, is it also mentally crazy? Yeah, it took the three full grown men, ten hours to dismember her with a saw Inside of the bathtub. They have a new issue. They say listen inside of this apartment Even if we dismember her the decomposing flesh is just gonna smell Even if somehow we can sneak her out of the apartment in little small plastic bags or something Someone's gonna find out we did some shit because it's gonna start to smell. Given in a garbage can, it's gonna start to smell, it's gonna be weird. So we need to do something about that. And so they're sitting around thinking, okay, well what do we do? And they're sitting in their kitchen, and they look at each other and they

go, oh shit. Duh! So all of the parts of our body were small enough to fit into large stockpots. Stockpots? Oh my god. Soup stock. And so they said, why don't we boil all of her parts so that it'll stop the decomposition of her body and then we can trash her remains. Oh my goodness. They cooked her up. Yeah. that would be a very yeah. And so they started

cooking individual pieces of her body and they would do this for days. Like this was not a one time I'm just cooking dinner type of mess, right? Like this was a long, long endeavor. They start cooking individual pieces of the body. Any muscle tissue, anything that they couldn't necessarily cook away, they decided to put into plastic bags and stick that into the fridge. Now, these are not cannibals. They had no intention of eating her. Not that that would be any better. That would be a lot worse, actually, right?

But it's just very strange, like their thought process on all of this. They saved a bunch of her internal organs. They saved her heart, her liver, her lungs, her intestines. They saved all of that into plastic bags, right? And this is the crazy thing. Some people speculate on Reddit that they did this because they're members of the triad, and they were thinking, oh my god, we're so smart. Let's go sell these on the black market.

We do our drugs, right? It just didn't end up happening because, I mean, once someone's dead, you really can't just like sell a heart for a heart transplant like that. Right. No, there's no way. But it's speculated that they did that for those reasons, because it was just very weird, you know? Yeah.

And so they also saved one of her teeth. Yeah. They saved one of her teeth in the fridge And then I think some of the henchmen one of the henchmen took some teeth home as a trophy Yeah, that as a trophy. It's just gets crazier, right? And then slowly as they're cooking different parts of fun They would put her into trash bags with the rest of their household garbage and then just dump it in a dumpster. They did this four days and they didn't really leave that apartment for days because they wanted to keep an eye out and they were paranoid and they didn't want to get any deliveries of food because they didn't want people around the apartment.

Yeah. So a lot of the reports say that they would cook noodles right next to her boiling body in a different pan. And they would use the same spoon to stir the noodles and then stir up her body parts and then stir the noodles again. Yeah, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. I don't even do that with like two different curries. Yeah, I know. Like if someone can just like, saw away. Yeah. A human body, I wouldn't be surprised.

They would eat all three meals of the day, just sitting in the kitchen as they were boiling her body parts. They were pretty much just left with her head. I mean, they had a bunch of mysel tissue. They had a bunch of other parts that could not be broken down any further inside the their fridge. They had all of the internal organs. They had a couple teeth. But other than that, everything else they had ended up trashing, except her head.

They decided to try to remove as much flesh as possible from her head, because the head is not something that you can get rid of like that. Other body parts, I mean, I did a whole case a couple weeks ago, two weeks ago, on a cannibal, right? And for someone who really doesn't understand stuff like this, that would be me. I've never seen human meat, I've never Googled it, I've never like tried to look up pictures on the internet. I don't really know how it necessarily compares to other livestock, I guess I could say. I mean I barely know the difference between like lamb and beef sometimes when I see it, right? But the head is not something that you can dispose of like that.

You can't put a skull into a trash bag. You can't put hay or attach to something into a trash bag. Like you just can't. And so their entire incentive was, well, we can't throw her head away. We just have to keep it hidden. I just thought of something. If you live in America, you just got away to Halloween. Oh my gosh.

You know, I was just thinking about fourth of July. What about it? Oh, the fire works. Fireworks. Sounds like, yeah. Yeah. They said, well, we've got to keep the head so we have to boil her head as much as we can so that she won't decompose because we don't want the smell to be a nuisance in our lives we don't want the smell to bother us and so they start boiling her head and I don't know if it was

from the torture that she was missing her lower jaw or if it was from the process of trying to get away a lot of the skin and flesh that was on her head. But when she was found inside the Hello Kitty doll, she was missing her lower jaw bones. Because I think, okay, this is so uncomfortable to even discuss the details of this but I believe the lower part you know it comes apart so they can somewhat get rid of it versus the whole school is just a big piece I don't know. They boil her head, cook some more noodles, use the same spoon and they sew her head inside of that Hello Kitty mermaid doll. Chan demanded that Annie take that doll home. So the 14 year old girl took it to her little apartment and that's when all of the hunting

began. So what was the hunting all about? That's very interesting. Some people think it was actual paranormal stuff. What? Yeah, we'll get into it. A whole building gets demolished because of this, right? Some people think it was actual paranormal stuff.

Some people believe, hey, like even people who don't believe in ghosts, and I am one of those people, I don't necessarily believe in ghosts like that, right? But I do think when someone is taken like that, there's definitely some weird energies, there's definitely something going on. If Chinese call it like Yuan Nian, just like when you are killed in a very, very gruesome, very angry state, the energy is going to linger. Yeah. So people don't know if it's actual paranormal stuff that was haunting this 14 year old girl. If it was the energy, some people think it was guilt, right?

Yeah. And then another people think it's a different group think it's something else. So there's a large group of people that think that children can see ghosts when adults can't. OK. Because children don't have limiting beliefs. Adults, like you and I, will be like,

that's, no, that's not a ghost. Obviously, maybe I'm drunk. Maybe my contacts are moving around in my eyeballs. Like, we'll come up with some crazy reasons why that's not a ghost. Whereas children don't really do that. So some people think if she was in a child, even if she was the same amount of guilty

that she felt and the shame that she felt when she was 19, maybe she wouldn't have seen these ghosts. So it's kind of up for debate. I mean, let me know what you guys think, right? And so that's when all of the haunting began for Annie. She just felt like, I'm gonna get haunted for the rest of my life, unless I confess to the police. Something inside of her said that was the only way.

It was not even disposing of the Hello Kitty doll. It was not even telling her parents. She said to the police, I knew I was going to get haunted forever until I confessed everything to the police. Wow, so the hunt being haunted is something very much real to her. Yeah, okay. Very real. Yeah. Okay. Very real. Wow. So this wasn't her like making up some weird excuse. This wasn't her trying to be like, I'm turning my boyfriend in, but like I don't want him to know.

It was me, you know, like she genuinely was very afraid because she was being haunted. She was constantly seeing fun in her nightmares. She was constantly seeing fun everywhere she walked in Hong Kong. And she really felt like this was the only way. And so now we're kind of flash forwarding to back to where the police were. They find this Hello Kitty doll. They open it up and they see the head and they're like, what the fork is going on? And I saw pictures of the outside of the Hello Kitty doll and it's incredibly traumatizing.

Really? It's just, it throws you off. And I don't know if it's the fact that a Hello Kitty face has a mermaid tail. Should I look it up? Yeah. Which is? Which is? Which is? Which is?

Which is? Yeah, you'll see the picture. It's really intense. Oh my goodness, that is so freaking creepy. Yeah. Oh my God. It's definitely one of those things that I think will give me nightmares for sure.

Oh. And let's talk about the trial. So at this point, we're all caught up. I mean, that's it. They're arrested. They're arrested. It's a pretty, I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's a very, very crazy crime, very, very anti-climactic

catching, like a very anti-climactic investigation, right? So based off of this 14-year-olds testimony, they offered her immunity and protection. And a lot of people were kind of on the fence about this decision, but it really came down to age. They thought if she was 20, they wouldn't have offered the same amount of leniency, they wouldn't have offered the same amount of immunity that she received, but she received full immunity for her testimony, right? But again, she was a victim. She was 14. And I don't think her hitting her on the head a couple times, you know, and being forced to partake in this torture when she was already herself unknowingly being tortured. And so she was offered immunity. They arrested Chan Manlok, who was 34, Hunchman number one by the name of Xing Cho, who was 27,

and Hunchman number two by the name of Wei Lun, who was 23 years old at the time. Oh wow. And this was December of 2000. Now this is where you're gonna get even more mad and even more upset. These three men, every single day in court, every single day, they completely denied that this was murder because they were getting tried for a first degree

murder. They said, but it's not murder, it's not murder. And they said, listen, we accept, we accept some charges. Yeah, maybe we can opt her, right? Yeah, maybe we prevented a lawful burial, which is a really, really big crime in Hong Kong. I think they actually take it a lot more seriously than they do in the US, right? Lawful burial. Which means that you are taking away a family or someone's right to be buried lawfully. Oh god. You're like messing with a body, right? Essentially. And so they're like, yeah, maybe we did all of that, but we didn't murder her. Of course, we didn't murder her. That doesn't make any sense. And so their entire defense, their entire legal defense was that she was an addict and she overdosed. And they were so scared about the overdosing because they're drug dealers that they had to do this to the body.

And because the body had been completely dismembered and boiled and trashed, they really couldn't determine the cause of death. And also, this is even crazier thing. The jury believed that the death was not intentional. They believed that she died. They believed she wouldn't have died if she wasn't with these people. But they didn't think that these people wanted her to die. Which I think is worse. Because if someone's fucking keeping me around to torture me and doesn't want me to die,

I think that's worse than someone just trying to murder me straight up. Yeah. Like, uh... That's true. How does that... worse than someone just trying to murder me straight up. Yeah. Like, uh, that's true. How does that, okay. So the intent was not to kill her, so you could keep her around to torture her longer. That's true. If somebody changed you up for 30 years, that's worse.

And then you end up dying because you were changed up for 30 years. They're like, but the intention was not to kill. Like, that's so much worse. Like, what are you talking about, right? But the jury was like, well, technically, but the intention was not to kill. That's so much worse. What are you talking about? The jury was like, well, technically, in the eyes of the law. I'm not saying anything bad about the jury because if you look at all of the reactions from people from Hong Kong, Hong Kong court system, the judicial system, I mean, everybody

was fucking pissed. They said this is the most senseless, disgusting, animalistic crime that they've ever seen, right? And so Hong Kong was shook, right? But technically, there's a lot of legal loopholes. And the jury just had to decide if these three men was intentionally trying to kill her that day. And they couldn't say yes. And it's even crazier because there was more evidence.

They had a full psychiatric report run on all three men. And all of the reports said that these men are completely remorseless. They don't feel any ounce of guilt or shame. They don't feel bad at all. They don't feel like fun is going to hunt them. They don't feel like this is something that they will regret for the rest of their lives. They don't even feel any of that. They don't even feel sad.

They don't even feel any of that. They don't even feel sad. They don't even feel sad that someone's dead. But because there was nobody, because they disposed of it, but regardless, but because there was nobody, they were convicted of manslaughter, not murder. And in December of 2000, they were sentenced to life in prison, but, but with the possibility of parole in 20 years, which means this year, 2020. They have the possibility of parole. How is that happening?

No, I don't think they're going to get it. So I'm pretty confident they're not. I mean, considering how famous this case is, considering how much outrage this case had, I don't think this is going to be another Junco case where they just kind of get off scot-free, right, with a little slap on their wrist. I do think that at least Chan will be spending the rest of his life in prison. But then again, if they don't do that shit, I'll be really upset. Exactly. You just, I just never know. Once all of the trial was over, you have this little boy who is about my age

I believe now. Yeah, who doesn't have a mom? I mean, I don't know what's worse To not know or to know something so dark happened to your mom. I don't know I was saying not knowing is worse. Okay. No, no, no. Is better. Is better, yeah. I think so too, Chris. For something like this, are you kidding me? Because I feel like if it was less gruesome and less painful, I would say, oh no, I would want closure, right?

But, this is so- Yeah, this is so- Something like this, yeah. So much to overcome. It was a lot for Hong Kong to overcome too Mm-hmm And it got a little bit crazy because after all of the trial after all of this spectacle after all of these things were over and people were kind of over it They started focusing on the paranormal aspect a lot of people just could not get over it Was fun haunting this 14-year-old girl they had to know and so they would keep going to the building

where fun was murdered the apartment building and they would try to communicate with fun they would record things they would have radio hosts they would do all of these things trying to talk to fun and they just wanted like our last words right and I think every country is different I think every country lies differently in their superstitions or their paranormal beliefs. Sure, sure. So I don't necessarily know where Hong Kong lies, but I do know I don't think anyone was trying to do this out of with bad intentions. So they actually would?

Yeah, so I don't think it was like one of those like instances where they're like, I'm gonna call ghost busters and we're gonna vlog it. It wasn't one of those situations, which I think is really forked up. I think all of those videos on YouTube are being like staying at the most haunted place ever. I think those are completely fine. I think they're really cool. But I think when it's like trying to use a Ouija board to talk to Eliza Lam, that's when

I'm like, really? Who does that? Lots. Well, not lots, but some, yeah. Like victims of tragedies? Yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, you do realize they've got family and that's just so distra- yeah. And so I think for this situation though, it wasn't like that.

From what I could tell, from all the translations and all the articles that I read, it wasn't like that. From what I could tell, from all the translations and all the articles that I read, it didn't seem like it was just a bunch of stupid people trying to be like, I'm gonna catch this on camera and I'm gonna get followers, you know, it was just, I really want to know. Eventually, she was murdered in 1999, but eventually, after nobody wanted to rent that unit, nobody wanted to rent any units in that apartment complex. The entire complex was demolished in 2012. An investor had purchased the land, demolished it, and then he rebuilt a hotel in 2016. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. And there was two movies based in Hong Kong that were based off of this entire case and the names of these movies are a little bit

Strange okay, so I don't know if these are the direct translations, right? But from what I could tell from like IMBD and stuff the two movie names are human pork chop and there's a secret in my soup So wow yeah pork chop and there's a secret in my soup. So. Wow. Yeah. It's turning into an urban legend all of a sudden. Yeah. It almost feels like an urban legend, like some parts of this story. That is very, very eerie. Yeah. And there you have it. That was one of the most highly requested cases. Probably the second most requested case. Well, I feel like Toybox killer in Junco. Yeah. Oh, and John won Gacy.

I'm gonna do him soon. You know, this freaking Hello Kitty murder was, yeah, this is not what I was expecting. I was, I guess going into it, I was expecting kind of something that had not as much to it. Yeah. I thought maybe it would have something to, like I thought Hello Kitty and the murder would be very loosely connected.

I thought it would be like maybe the person who was murdered or the murderer loves Hello Kitty. And like their username was like Hello Kitty 227, right? Right. But that's not the case at all. Holy moly, this is dark stuff. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to feel. How do you guys feel about this? It's just such a strange case.

This is by far one of Hong Kong's most famous cases because of just the sheer senselessness of it. It's just like so nonsensical. I mean, what was the motive? They still don't know. Like, what was the reason? You could have let her go at any point. And what's even crazier is that they know, we know, unfortunately, if they had let her go, fun probably wouldn't have gone to the police. She was so terrified of them already. Yeah, and I'm not saying that I was like we damn know like ha ha but like no, unfortunately like Just listening to everything that's going on. I don't think fun would have gone to the police and that's crazy That they just didn't let her go like after beating her the first first time, you realize she can't, you don't make you money.

Why don't you just let her go? Why don't you just be like, you're gonna go home, but you stole me 16K. Not that that's any better. I'm not saying that's a good option. Okay, none of these are good options, but these are way better than murder. Let me know what you guys think about this case.

Was this what you guys were expecting? This is kind of an over legend in the sense that I feel like every single person when they were young always had a fear of like one or two big dolls in their life. Yeah, so that a fun is still around any yeah, and it's still a lot. Wow. And I don't think anyone really knows who she is. I don't know. I couldn't really find much about her. I mean, but I too wouldn't want to come forward later when I'm going to don't- I mean, like, yeah, that was me. I mean, does it make sense? I mean, I hope she is not in that cycle. I hope she's not being abused. Yeah.

But, let me know what you guys think. And I'll see you guys next Wednesday with... I want to say I'm going to either do John Wayne Gacy. I think I'm going to. The Killer Clown. I'll see you guys next Wednesday.