Rotten Mango - #9- Incest Murder Party

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

A 19 year old girl goes missing Two days later her abusive uncle “commits suicide” Then police arrest 11 family members Coincidence? Or was the family hiding something as dark as an incestuous se...x ring run by an uncle who wanted everyone to “swap children.” Warning - this story is really dark and triggering. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Oh no, okay, tell your joke. When the mosquito landed on my balls. What? That's when I realized not everything can be solved by violence. Oh no! I thought you were gonna say with the mosquito landed on my balls. It sucked. Anyways, welcome to our podcast. My name is Misquito. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I'm sorry, I thought you were the one that brought up the joke. Hey, you wanna hear another joke? You're a joke. Alright. Alright. So welcome to this episode of the Rotten Mango. Hi, I'm your host Stephanie Sue and I've got my fiance, Mr. Mango Bud, aka worst joke teller that ever faced this planet. And today's episode is going to be very fascinating because I don't think I've covered a case like this whether it was on my YouTube channels whether it was just in real life. Did I ever read about cases like this? I mean this one's just weird. This one is incestuous. This one is keeping it in the family.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Family friendly takes a new meaning, literally. Yeah, go tell the ads that we're family friendly over here. I'm just getting up. So today's story is about Britney Wood. I mean, normally I wouldn't cover cases of incest because it's one of those things where yes, it's illegal. Yes, it's an absolute crime and you should not be doing it. And I don't condone it incest because it's one of those things where yes, it's illegal. Yes, it's an absolute crime and you should not be doing it and I don't condone it and I think it's disgusting. Is there laws forbidden? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Incessed is a formal charge that you can have like a conviction. Yeah. Okay. And I mean, although it's all of those things, I just don't really find it to have like this crazy like that weird just mind-boggling I need to solve this mystery because I'm gonna be keeping my entire lights on all night long like I'm sleeping with my eyes open like it's just it never really has that unsettling vibe it's just usually like that's just gross like that's some game of the unshit and I don't want to hear about it, but today today is weird. You've got one person presumed dead You've got another that was actually found dead. I mean, this is an incest party. That's what they called it They held massive incest parties and this would go on for generations and generations and finally in
Starting point is 00:03:02 2012 it all just kind of hit a tipping point. There's just some weird stuff. There's where is this? Oh God And the fact that it's there just makes it all worse Where in the great state of sweet home Alabama It's an Alabama. Yeah, sweet home Alabama. Yeah, so I don't know how that song came to be like the song for any Incess jokes online Like it became a meme. Sweet Home Alabama is actually a song by like a singer that lives in California, I think, or Florida, and they wrote this song.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And now after so many years, it's kind of just an incest meme. Like they'll play Game of Thrones, Cersei Lannister, and then Sweet Home Alabama, afterwards. I mean, it's used to kind of target these types of jokes. I don't know, is it offensive? Let me know if you guys are from Alabama and you find it offensive because I don't wanna offend you, but it is an internet meme, right? So sweet home Alabama, this is where it all takes place.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And this all happens, May of 2012, with a woman by the name of Brittany Wood. Now Brittany Wood, okay when I first explain this story, you're gonna be kind of gripping onto your chair and thinking, wait a second, I mean this sounds like any other mystery, this sounds like any other unsolved missing person's case, but just you wait because the months after that she's reported missing, I mean so much shit comes out about this family. And the police had the balls. They had the nerve to tell the public that these two things were completely separate from each other. Okay, so May 30th of 2012, a 19-year-old single
Starting point is 00:04:38 mother by the name of Brittany Wood. She...well Brittany Wood has a very interesting life. So Brittany, she's 19. She has a two year old daughter by the name of Peyton. She was pregnant by the time she was 16, she had dropped out of high school by the time she was 14. So we can kind of say that she wasn't having the best, like she wasn't that happy in life. And her daughter was really her only source of happiness, except for the fact that she just had a really, really big problem with drugs So she would go and she would go on these drug binges
Starting point is 00:05:09 She would just leave her kid with all of her other relatives She would leave her kid Peyton with you know her dad that they're not together and she just wasn't really the one raising her kid Every single day and this is this is kind of important later. And they lived in a Theodore Alabama. It's called Theodore. Yeah, which is close to mobile mobile Alabama. I'm not sure if it's called mobile or mobile, but it's like T-Mobile. Like that's how they smell it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Spell it. I said smell it. And on May 30th 2012, she said, hey guys, like, are you guys need to watch my kid? Because I'm gonna go out for tonight. And they said, oh, well, where are you going? And he says, well, Uncle Donald is gonna come pick me up. So Brittany didn't have a car. Uncle Donald. Who does she tell her father? Her mom and some of her friends and she doesn't have a car. And so Uncle Donald was gonna pick her up, drive 40 miles back to his house And it was gonna be a whole thing. So around 7.30 p.m. May 30th, she gets picked up by Donnie Holland.
Starting point is 00:06:10 That's Donald, okay? That's her uncle. So I mean, I feel like with Incess, and I feel like with the story like this, I have to tell you exactly how they're related. This Donald was her mom's sister's husband. Mom's sister husband, okay. And so she goes into the car, they see them driving away in his black truck, and she never returns. Now what's even more interesting is that okay, well this isn't abnormal.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So May 30th, she leaves. May 31st, she's not back. Nobody's freaking out. You know, her entire family is like listen She goes on these drug binges all the time I mean maybe Donald had just dropped her off somewhere and she's at a friend's house and we can't get in contact with her Etc But then something very peculiar happened June 1st
Starting point is 00:06:59 Which is just two days after she's last seen by her family members and by her friends which is just two days after she's last seen by her family members and by her friends. The last person who was verifiably the last person to see her alive suddenly turns up dead. Who is that person? So June 1st, they find Donald Holland in his black truck. It had driven to a local river and he had shot himself in the head. Holy shit. The gun was inside the car and there was a couple other things inside the car that we're gonna get to in a little bit. So the family hears about this. I mean all of them are freaking out
Starting point is 00:07:38 and they start trying to call everyone that's part of the family. They're like, hey listen, Uncle Donnie's dead, Uncle Donnie's dead, right? Yeah. And they try to contact Brittany, but she doesn't answer the phone. Weird, but again, not the most alarming, and so they said, okay, you know, we're going to give it 24 hours. It's going to take about a day for all of the locals to hear that Uncle Donnie's dead, Uncle Donnie's dead, and regardless of if she's on a drug binge, you know, 25 miles out of town, she's going to hear about it. I mean, local word travels fast.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So we're going to give it about a day and if she doesn't come back or she doesn't call us, then we're gonna start freaking out. So it would be a total of three days. So June 2nd, they finally file a missing persons report. Now, the police and everyone, they take it seriously but they don't really take it seriously in the beginning because you have a 19-year-old girl
Starting point is 00:08:24 who is very heavily involved with drugs She was kind of bouncing from house to house. She was living with some relatives here Some relatives there. I should go with her mom her stepmom and etc etc And so she just didn't really have like what was presumed to be a very stable life No one is like looking at her thinking why would she leave? I mean none of this makes sense So they were like are you sure you sure she's not on a drug binge? And I don't know if we can Georgia, what about Tennessee? I mean, there's some wild stuff happening in Georgia
Starting point is 00:08:50 all the time. And so the police look into it and they find out that Brittany has a relatively troubled past. And I really don't like it when people put this label of a troubled past onto people, especially when they're young because I mean, sometimes it ain't even your fault Like it's not something that you did But nobody's investigating into
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh the ancestor the Donald no donny donny nobody really cares. I mean So the police are investigating but as the public knows this is all we know right now I mean that he just committed suicide is what the public things. So the police, they start looking into Britney's trouble to pass. And again, I hate when people say stuff like this because it kind of implies that Britney was trouble or she was troubled, but really when she's young, this is all things that people deserve. So in 2005, Britney was around the age of 11, 12 years old, and she went to a youth pastor. At a local church and they're like, hey, listen, you seem to be having some issues.
Starting point is 00:09:51 What's going on? And she's like, nothing's going on. Like, why would you ask me? Don't ask me. Nothing's going on. And they were like, okay, well, let's just spend some time together. She's about same age as you. 12 minutes. No, 2005. She was a... 12. Well, yeah, she was born about.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, anyways, continue. Wow. Just put that into the perspective for you. Yeah, that makes things so much more sad. Also, I thought you were saying I'm 12. No, no, no. And so she's 12. She goes to this youth pastor and he's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:10:28 well, why don't we just spend some time together? I get it, you're not trying to open up. We'll just, I'll just be here with you. And so he was just there with her. And then all of a sudden, she starts drawing on this piece of paper yet given her. And he thought that she was just gonna doodle. But no, she starts doodling what is very clearly
Starting point is 00:10:44 a depiction of a child getting molested by an adult and so immediately this youth pastor runs to the local police department and is like holy mother forking just kidding he doesn't cut his like oh my goodness what do we do now right and he gives this to the police and the police start asking her and they're like okay you have to tell us what's going on and so finally she says when I was nine years old, this is when it all started, okay? My grandma's boyfriend, his name is Ronald. And he will, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Okay, the other one's Donald. Yeah, okay. Ronald, my grandma's boyfriend that lives with my grandma that helped raise my mom. When I was nine, you know, they wanted me to call him grandpa, but he would also rape me. Oh Lord. And so this all started when she was nine. And I don't know why this is so sad to me.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Like there were testimonies that she gave when she was of that age. Cause I mean, they they took him to court. I mean, it was a, there were criminal charges that were passed. It was really bad. I mean, this is disgusting. She was nine. And so Brittany was 12 years old when she testified to the court system, the judicial system of Alabama.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And it's so sad because it happened so many times that here's the thing, a lot of the times when there is so much repeated abuse against children, nobody really believes them unless they can give them an exact example. But here's the problem, if a kid has been abused so regularly, so often, they almost can't pinpoint a special day. Because what does that mean? They don't have evidence or... I mean, they can't really have the strongest evidence in The eyes of some jurors because they're like can you point out like one specific day and they're like not really
Starting point is 00:12:33 So then to the jurors it might sound fake, but in reality it's because maybe it was happening every other day So it didn't really seem like oh my god crazy like this. Like this happened on this day. And I remember it forever. It's like, well, it happens every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're saying jurors doesn't didn't believe her? Well, not in this situation. They did, they did believe her in this one, but it's crazy because they asked her like, hey, do you remember one specific time? And this is the story that she told the testimony that she gave. And it's so sad. She said, there was this one time that I was naked in his room. She was nine by the way. And she said, you know, I lied because I wanted to get out of there and I kept telling him that I was thirsty. And he finally got mad
Starting point is 00:13:17 and he was like, okay, go get yourself a drink and then you come back in here, okay? And she left and then she hid, she hid herself naked behind like a garbage can and she tried to call for her grandma. Now I don't even know if her grandma would have done anything to be honest. Like this whole family will fuck you up. This is, they're known as one of the most depraved families in the history of the United States, like disgusting, right? Scum. I don't even know if she would have done anything and she's calling for grandma and he hears her, she doesn't come back and so he goes and he finds her and he grabs her and he tells her to get back into the room where he would then go on to finish assaulting her. But that's not even the crazy part. Does anybody else in the family know about this? Everybody knows. Everybody knows. Everybody knows. Everybody knows and get this. So she finally tells this story.
Starting point is 00:14:10 This happened when she was nine years old for a lot of times, multiple times. And then finally, when she was 12, it got out to the youth pastor. So the youth pastor went to the police. It's not even like her mom knew about it. I went to the police because her mom damn well knew about it. It's not like her cousins knew about it and went to the police because her mom damn well knew about it. It's not like her cousins knew about it and went to the police because her cousins damn well knew about it. Okay, her grandma damn well knew about it. And so the youth pastor goes to the police.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And in 2005, Ronald was sentenced to life imprisonment. But get this, get this. He could be out for the possibility of parole this year. So it's not really, yeah, it's not really life imprisonment. He was supposed to have his parole hearing in June, but I think because of COVID it got delayed so he hadn't had it last month But he's you know up for the chance of parole this guy literally raped a nine-year-old that he was supposed to be in charge of and It's crazy because the entire time he tried to keep having the sentence overturned, he was like,
Starting point is 00:15:06 this is all bullshit, she's just making up stuff. I mean, she's not, what does she know, right? And then finally, the judge was like, I mean, how some are more. And so he's like, you know, I'm so sorry if I ever caused any harm, like that's not my intention. And so the judge was like, why would you apologize if you claim you've done nothing?
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. And he goes, well, I've been convicted, so anyways. And his defense for this entire thing was not just like, I could never, this is disgusting. Like, what are you talking about? It was always, I mean, I raised the mother of this child. Oh, my God. And everyone's like, that makes it so much worse, sir,
Starting point is 00:15:42 because you are in this child's home. Like, you were supposed to be the trusted Parental figure like an authority figure for this developing child that makes it so much worse But you want to know what's more mind-boggling? The grandma ends up Continuing her relationship with him while he's in prison and everyone in the family carried on as if it ain't no thing What does that mean? That means they didn't really think about it.
Starting point is 00:16:09 They still called Ronald Walley's in prison. Nobody said, oh, can you believe that that happened? Oh, my God. How could we have not seen such a thing? Nobody ever said anything like that. Why is it like that? What do you think it is? Do you think they're all fearful of him or?
Starting point is 00:16:23 No, I don't think so. They're all fucked up. I think they're all fucked up How how can you do that as a mother? So this family is kind of what a lot of Psychologists is saying what multi-generations of abuse and predatory behavior and incest Looks like you just kind of think it's normal. You don't really even have like an alarm bell, which is kind of crazy. I'm real. This is unreal. Yeah, I mean, this is like a side note. By the way, I was watching a take talk. Okay. Who knew that this would be informative? And I'm obviously not a parent to any child yet. So I mean, I can't say if this is good or not, but I find it very
Starting point is 00:17:03 interesting because I saw a lot of moms on this TikTok and they said that, you know, one thing that I've done differently after being abused as a kid is that I now teach my daughter vagina at a young age. So since she can talk, she knows where her vagina is and she knows the word vagina. She doesn't call it anything cute like my cookie or my down there. She calls it her vagina. So if anybody ever touches her vagina, no one's going to be like, your uncle ate your cookie? Like, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:17:38 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I don't know if it's from somewhere I read some Chinese article or not, but they're saying teach your kid from the young age like boys or girls doesn't matter. Never ever ever let anybody take off your underwear. Oh yeah that's so true. Did we talk about this? I think so. Like just tell them
Starting point is 00:18:01 no matter never let a stranger or anybody even family member to take off your underwear. That's true because family members are sometimes the biggest predators in a lot of these stories. Yeah. And you just don't even know it. I mean, in this case, they know it, but in a lot of cases, I've heard they don't know it. It's disgusting. Yeah. And then I also heard the one that's like, and people don't understand why kids are taught to hug.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Like, you know, when you meet, they're like, oh, that's your uncle, like, that you've never met before. Go hug them. People think it's weird. So there's a lot of like, I don't know if people have been doing this for a while, but it seems more of like a modern era thing where parents are like, if you don't want to hug anyone, you don't have to, you can say, no, thank you. And they don't get mad at the kid for being like, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And then sometimes they even say like people will approach them and be like, uh, your kid's kind of me. Like it, she wouldn't even hug me. And they're like, so, she don't want to hug you. It's then so. Yeah, that's true. So I mean, it's very smart. That's true.
Starting point is 00:19:01 The police find out about her troubled past. This happened when she was nine years old. They have all of the records of it. She testified when she was 12 years old. Now they're not alarmed that Ronald was released from prison and he went and got hurt because he's still sitting in prison at the time. So they still don't feel like there's like this impending doom. They don't feel like, oh no, there's so much motive for this one person to kill her, like we need to find her alive right now. And so the police don't really do jack shit no offense. And so there is this huge foundation called the class kids foundation. And it was created by Mr. Class whose daughter Polly class was kidnapped and murdered in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And so he started this and it's essentially just like a foundation where if your kid goes missing or somebody goes missing, they get a bunch of volunteers and they all go searching together because you know a lot of the times the police don't want to do that. Okay. So the class kids foundation they get together and it was about 70 plus volunteers. They start doing like a five mile radius search of the last place that Brittany's cell phone had pinged which was near the river that Donald was found.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Now, they do about, I think, it's like weeks and months of them coming through clues and they found nothing. Like the Salvation Army of coastal Alabama went out there to hand out food to these volunteers. I mean, they just couldn't find anything. There were a lot of issues though, because of the terrain. They said, listen, it's raining all the time. The floors are just soaked with water. they just couldn't find anything. There were a lot of issues though because of the terrain they said listen it's raining all the time the floors are just soaked with water I mean they're not looking at like residential areas they're probably looking at like the woods and stuff and so they're like there's
Starting point is 00:20:34 water everywhere and also there's hundreds of snakes everywhere like people are getting hurt people are getting bit by snakes like this is actually very dangerous and so the search got so so dangerous that they were like okay like this is just progressing at such a slow right we don't even know what to do now the investigators there's some reason they didn't amp up the crew they didn't bring more police officers they didn't bring more search dogs canine dogs they didn't do any of that which I find to be really weird, especially because the investigators were going to meet up with Donnie a couple days.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Before he committed suicide, the investigators were already looking into Donald. Into Uncle Donald, and they were actually going to meet him in a couple of days, and he knew it. They had arranged a time for him to come into the police station and have a little bit of a chat. And sure enough, before that chat, he committed suicide. That's shady. We'll have a minute.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So of course, the police should be looking into it further. But for some reason, in the beginning, the police had kind of separated Britney's disappearance with Donald's suicide, which doesn't make sense, because a lot of people told them, listen, they were last seen together. Like last time she was seen alive was with him, but they were like, nah, two totally different things,
Starting point is 00:21:49 don't matter, and what he was being investigated for was even crazier, it was sex crimes against underage children. So it's like, I mean, I don't, I don't know why they were thinking that. And so the police kind of do some investigating and they thought that there was one thing that was suspicious I mean technically when you look at all of the court records when you look at the legal Papers this was ruled a suicide, but the placement of the bullet was weird
Starting point is 00:22:16 Okay, so normally when people And their lives with a bullet to the head it it's near the temples, it's usually near the dominant hand near the temples. But this one was behind the ear, like almost towards the back of the head, behind the ear. It's just not statistically something that they find common, it's not guaranteed to be the easiest quickest way, which it really wasn't because Uncle Donald was in a coma for about three days in the hospital before he passed.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So that typically is why people don't tend to use that method. I mean, there's a reason why people do the way, the things that they do, the way that they do it. And so statistically, it was a little bit odd, but they were thinking, you know what, Donald just might be weird. He just might be a weird person and maybe he's dumb okay. I don't we don't know and so the police are like okay even though that's suspicious we're gonna rule it a suicide and then they do some more digging and this is when it gets really bad. Let me tell you about the sex ring that Donald was running. Now this is probably one of the worst
Starting point is 00:23:27 sex rings I've researched. It's probably one of the worst incestuous sex rings that I've researched. Probably one of the worst cases of incest I've ever researched. I mean this is just disgusting. So if you have a weak stomach this is not for you. So Donnie, Donald, would have these amazing barbecues as they would call it. I don't think it's amazing. I think it's disgusting, and I think Donald should have been grilled alive, but that's trust me. And so he was kind of like this ringleader. He was a manager. He was a Jeffrey Epstein per se. He would, I'm sorry, is that too much? I don't know. Is it too much? She's telling me I don't know allegedly. Yeah, anyways. And so he would kind of just manage things. So he would text people and be like, Hey, so I have this girl who's
Starting point is 00:24:14 gonna be at this barbecue. She's 12 years old. Oh, and she's my niece. Oh, I have this girl and she's gonna be at the barbecue and she's 10 years old. And oh, oh, she's my daughter. Who is he? Who is he talking to? His close family friends and his entire family. Like, there was like four uncles involved. It's disgusting. So it would be a massive family gathering. So who are these girls? All their daughter, their kids.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They're talking about their kids. Yeah, they're not talking. This is not like a huge human trafficking thing. These are their kids. Oh my god. This is a group. This is a big family, right? So you have the kents who are all family
Starting point is 00:24:50 and then you have the Hollins who are all a family and then you have the woods. And there's three separate families. They all have kids and they would just swap their kids around and just have like sex parties. It's disgusting. It gets worse. Okay, so it's essentially this massive family
Starting point is 00:25:06 gathering with extended family and it was not really a barbecue. I mean, maybe they would eat barbecue. Maybe it's kind of something that they bring together and just like that's their dinner, but it was more for the purposes of having an incestuous sex ring. So that barbecue, they would just go around sharing each other's children, disgusting. His wife Wendy, so Donald's wife Wendy, who is actually the aunt, maternal aunt, to Brittany Wood. So this is Brittany's mom's sister. So blood related, okay? Wendy and Donald would have these massive gatherings with family and they would just swap children. Do they have kids?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yes, and they would abuse children. Swabject kids? Yes, and sometimes Donald would assault his own child. No. Yeah. And they were all groomed at an early age. I knew you were going to ask me that and you're not going to like the answer. So there were younger children and there were older children involved.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So you had children who were around Britney's age, who were teenagers or early 20s or maybe they were 15, 14. And then you have the young group of kids. What the adults deemed, and I hate calling them adults because in a situation like this, they're not adults. They're just monsters. They're little diseases to the world. They're not adults. Like adults is like that word that you use for someone
Starting point is 00:26:39 who protects a child, right? So I hate using it, but I'm just trying to separate that group, right? So, OK, the nastyies the nasty adults, right They felt like the age that it was old enough for their kids and for their nieces and nephews to be raped By one another was about three to four years old Shut the fuck up, but that did not stop them So they would bring all of their younger children together who were about two years old, one years old,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and they would have them watch. So they were groomed at a really, really young age. And they had this thing that was called, like a, the way that I was described on Reddit is like a musical chair. Like the most disgusting inhumane, deprived musical chairs. Where all of the aunts and uncles and family
Starting point is 00:27:25 friends would sit in a circle on chairs and literally the kids, there'd be like ten kids that were under age that were like aged from five to twelve and they would just have to get assaulted in front of everyone and then they would say okay now it's time to swap and they would just literally swap children in this circle, like literally in real time. Like it wasn't, does that make sense? Does any of this make sense? It wasn't like, okay, like now I'm gonna go home with this.
Starting point is 00:27:54 How would you, like describe it in a way that I can relate to? Because I can't even relate to this on any form of level. Like maybe if you had a group, it's like the hamster. When you're young, I don't know, like I don't know. Maybe you're like, I really don't know how to even make an analogy.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Maybe I just shouldn't, because there's really nothing to compare this to. And so it was literally while they're sitting in that circle, they'd be like, time to swap. And then they would go and rape another kid. And then they'd be like, time to swap. And then they would rape another kid. Meanwhile, this is all like, they're all related.
Starting point is 00:28:26 How is something this disgusting happening? While one of the grandpa already got arrested for a lifetime, but all these kids are being assaulted for all these years and nobody has ever found out about it. Well, that's the crazy thing. So I think the difference at this case, I mean, I really don't know, but I think the difference here is the police suck. Well, I don't know if that's a difference, but the police suck. They knew about this. Their first reports of assault from this family and abuse was about six years before Britney went missing. And whether that falls on CPS, whether that CPS is fault,
Starting point is 00:29:08 or whether that's the Alabama police force fault or a combination of both, I mean, it was reported to law enforcement and to the government six years before Brittany would went missing. So you have to think, would Brittany even be missing today, or would Peyton have her mother around? And on top of that, you know what? Like it's
Starting point is 00:29:29 in this is hell a reason too, right? 2012. She was missing so six years. That's 2006. This sounds like something happens in like the fucking 50s or 60s. Yeah, like something that you're like, okay, this definitely doesn't happen anytime, you know, near when I was born. And every single child from that family is ruined. Yeah. Well, not ruined, but you get it. They have to survive and, you know, adapt. I know, but what kind of fucking trauma is this?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, he's just angry, sorry. No, and then I think the reason that they got away with it for so long is probably because of the downfalls of CPS and the police force in Alabama, but also the fact is, I mean imagine you don't really know any other adults. Maybe you do think that all the adults you know do this, so maybe you think all adults do this? I mean, imagine the brainwashing.
Starting point is 00:30:18 There are kids who are assaulted by their uncles and can't even tell their own parents who don't assault them. You know, because they have this immense fear. Now imagine your parents are in on it. And imagine all of your families in on it, your grandma, your grandpa, your mom, your dad, your cousin, your brother, like everybody is in on it. Who could you possibly tell? And by the looks of it, I mean, they said that they were groomed at a super young age so I can only imagine I mean I've seen like the damage of being groomed you know people getting groomed when they're 13 imagine getting groomed since you're one like since you're born so I'm sure it's just so so
Starting point is 00:30:59 much that leads to this being just such an open activity it almost seems like. And it involved about 11 adults that were the primary people. And so far the police think it involved 16 children. And that's as of right now. There was some heartbreaking testimonies. There was a testimony from the, I mean, I'm not not gonna name any of these people, they're not releasing the names and I don't even wanna try to piece it together, right? I mean, there are some where it makes sense
Starting point is 00:31:32 and they were released. So other than that, I'm just gonna say, you know, there was some testimonies. So there was a testimony with one who, she said that the first memory that she has in life is a male relative taking off her diaper and assaulting her. Oh my god. And that was her earliest memory. And the women in the family really are disgusting. So I know so far it seems like okay well well good on us good on the world Donald's fucking dead Yes, right like nobody needs Donald in their life
Starting point is 00:32:09 But the women in the family were no better. So the the moms first of all, I mean These are your children. These are your nieces. These are your nephews. You failed in life. You you're disgusting You don't you don't deserve happiness, but they were worse than that. So the women, they would prepare children for the men. So these aunts and these moms would go to the children, these underage children, and would use toys on them to prepare them. And I say that in quotes for the men. And they said that it was to get them ready for abuse. And it's speculated that Brittany was about four or five years old actually when the abuse
Starting point is 00:32:51 from her other relatives started and that fake grandfell like that step-grandfather was when she was nine. So it doesn't seem like that's her one and only time that she was Taking advantage of and just I mean it's raped I have such a hard time saying that word because it has such an emotional like It just get like yeah, but she was yeah, she's raped There were some testimonies of Donnie now what do the woman get out of this? Why are they all? I don't know you think it's just like the mindset of being in that environment, pleasing? I think it's a part of being in that environment. I also think it's part of like this sick twisted. I mean, it's got to be a generational thing. So,
Starting point is 00:33:41 allegedly, all of the ones and all of the women involved were also abused as a kid. And so, either A, they think that this is completely normal, like they've been groomed to the depths of Helen back and they think that this is totally just regular shenanigans, or B, it's like that thing. When you're abused, you either become the exact parent your parent was or the exact opposite. Like that saying. So maybe it's a combination of both or maybe it's that. So this one is actually going to be about Donald's daughter.
Starting point is 00:34:15 She's going to remain unnamed, but Donald's daughter had a very moving testimony when you know all of this was getting leaked and all of this was getting exposed to the police and she was 13 years old at the time She's I think 17 now maybe no, I think maybe in her early 20s maybe Um, but she was 13 at the time and Donald said hey my daughter. This is his daughter Why don't we go to the pet store to buy a hamster and so like every 13 year old She was like hell yeah, I want to buy a freaking hamster. And so she gets so excited. She's like, yeah, dad, woo, you're the best dad ever. And she gets into the car with her dad. How old was she?
Starting point is 00:34:52 13. Oh, OK. So this happened when she was 13. Yeah. OK. And instead of driving to the pet store, where does he take her? He takes her to Uncle Dustin's workplace. Now this is where it gets a little bit confusing So I'm gonna try to explain it as best as possible. So Wendy is Donald's wife, right? Yeah, so this is Wendy and Donald's kid
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah, now Wendy has a twin sister so And she's married to Dustin. Okay. So in the eyes of the abused victim, this is her uncle. Correct. So, Uncle Dustin's workplace. And he gets into the car, they pick him up, and they start driving to like this industrial park that was never developed. So it's kind of just like they've got slabs of cement, but it's just been kind of abandoned.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I mean, it's just not a great area. And so they're driving over there. The sun is setting and she said that she has a headache. So she vividly remembers trying to be like, I have a headache, I have a headache. And I'm sure when you're 13, you remember like, I used to say I have a headache all the time, just because I didn't want to, I just didn't want to be there or I didn't want to, like, I just, you know, do you think she knew? I think she knew.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I think she knew because there's up? I think she knew. Because there's no way this was her first time being raped. And I mean, they even verify this information later. And so she's like, I have a headache. I have a headache. I have a headache. And Uncle Dustin starts rubbing her head and tries to kiss her. And so she pulls away and she's like, oh, like, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:23 no, no, no, no, right. And her dad, Donald, like, no, no, no, no, no, right? And her dad Donald stops the car. And Uncle Dustin takes off all of her clothes while she keeps telling him to stop. But he doesn't stop. And then he raves her. But the worst part of this is that this happens in the back of the car while her dad is in the front seat watching everything. And then it gets worse. So Donald is watching. This is why I say honestly, I mean, I try to be so respectful for the dad, but this is why I say really no one's going to miss Donald. Nobody gives a fuck about Donald, and he deserves a much more painful death than the one that he got.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And he watched. Now, later, the victim will go home, and she'll tell her mom. She'll tell her mom, hey, your twin sister's husband raped me. And I'm 13, by the dad, was watching it and was okay with it. And I'm surprised this is not where the true crime happened. I'm surprised that a murder did not happen right here and there. But now she didn't report it to the police. She didn't get mad at her husband or her sister or her sister's husband.
Starting point is 00:37:47 She didn't try to flee with her daughter. She was just like, oh, okay, cool. Like, so it was a good day. Like, she just was so fucking disgusting. What is disgusting? Did you see these people talk? No, but I've seen their faces and they look pretty nasty. Unreal. This is unreal
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, and so that happens and later on I mean we know all of this obviously because all of these people were caught and they were Convicted and uncle Dustin the one who raped his 13 year old Denise He was convicted and they asked him like what what the hell is wrong with you? Like you got a bajillion screws loose, like, are you Satan himself? Like are you Lucifer? Like, what the hell is wrong with you? And you know what his defense was? It's not like it was her first time.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I mean, her and her dad have done this before. Like that was his defense. Like he genuinely thought that he did something. Like he felt like he's going to say that in court and the judge and the jury would be like, oh really? We didn't know. Like that changes everything. You're right. Now, Brittany has an older brother. Brittany is, I know there's a lot of names. Brittany is the one that's missing. She has an older brother by the name of Derek, Derek Wood. And he was abused as well. So it was not just reserved for the nieces. It was a lot of the nephews were abused as well. So he was abused since he was seven.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He was sotomized. He said that Uncle Donald is one of the most evil people you'll meet. And he said Uncle Donald pressured him and groomed him into becoming an abuser himself. And that's usually the way it works. So he feels like that's what he has to do now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He feels like he was so groomed that he felt like that's like a, that's like growing pain. It's like puberty. It's like- No, it's- no. Yeah. Just going back to the beginning of the story you're saying that she was getting picked up by Dono. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Holy shit. That's no longer just picking up by your uncle. You know where you're going right now. Yeah. And what's going to happen? Yeah. The police up until this point, they still claim that the case is running separate from the abuse.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yes, so we are arresting tons of her family members for incestuous sex parties and underage, child pornography, like list of things, just like a fucking just a rap sheet of things. All of these disgusting charges, some of the most disgusting charges that you could ever be charged with in the face of the law, right? The police are like, yes, we are to her closest uncles and aunts, but you know what? We think that her missing case is completely separate. We think they have nothing to do with each other. Now, a lot of people believe that the police initially took this claim for almost a year, because again, if they were related, then the public would say, oh, so you're saying? So you're saying, if you had caught these people earlier
Starting point is 00:40:43 when they were reported, oh, you know, since beginning six years ago, then Brittany would be here today. She wouldn't be missing today. She would be alive today. She wouldn't be presumed dead today. And so that's why people think the police were like, no, no, no, no, you see, she had her own life going
Starting point is 00:40:58 and it was a completely separate thing. Like that's just a mystery that no one will ever know. And this sex ring is completely irrelevant. And so they just were so freaking adamant. And the locals and everybody in the press was like, what are you talking about? You make no sense. Now witnesses are going to start telling police some things
Starting point is 00:41:17 that they really can't deny. And this is when the police starts switching up on their shed. And they're like, OK, we're looking into it now. And it's because lots of witnesses told the police that Donald before he died, he showed them tons of videos of Brittany when she was under the age of 13. And she was engaging in sexual activities with various male adults in those videos. Donald's showing? Yeah, to his friends, like showing it off. So, I mean, this is now proving, okay, he has child pornography, he has produced child
Starting point is 00:41:53 pornography, he's maybe possibly distributing it. I mean, that becomes a theory in a little bit, and it also shows a connection directly between Donald and Brittany, because prior to this, I mean, we have the record of Brittany being assaulted by her grandma's boyfriend, but we don't have any records between Donald and Brittany, and definitely the family could just say, you know, they were in a really nice relationship, like the uncle loves the niece, etc. Like, you would expect from most families. And so this is now like, okay, the police are like, well, fuck now, we gotta look into it. So they get a search warrant, they start looking, and it hasn't really been released heavily if there was heavy amounts of
Starting point is 00:42:29 child pornography that were being distributed, but it definitely does seem like there were at least some videos here and there. They didn't release any more details about this, but I mean, it hasn't been denied. They're like, yeah, we conducted a search. And I mean, this always gets me thinking like, I know this is such a side note, but how much therapy do FBI and the police that are in charge of units like this need? Because I can't imagine there's gonna be at least one person who has to watch this and file it as evidence.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I mean, it reminds me of the toy box killer of that agent who had to watch and detail everything that she found in the toy box. And she ended up committing suicide after she was done. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that agent killed herself after, to me, this sounds worse. Yeah. It's crossing the line so far. You know, one of the miners said, well, not just the videos, but we would all sit in a circle like I told you and you know, the adults would just pass us around and sometimes those circles would include Brittany as one of the victims. So now we have more proof that Brittany was a victim of a lot of her relatives,
Starting point is 00:43:45 not just her grandma's boyfriend, like we see on court documents. And then another member who was under age at the time said that, you know, one of the craziest things I've seen now, I mean, now I know it's crazy. At the time I didn't really know it was that crazy was they saw He knows that crazy was they saw a six-way sex orgy that included adult family relatives with minor family relatives. It's so sad because when she testified in court, she told everyone in the jurors that she still loves her aunt and her uncle with all of her heart. And they said, okay, well, you have to point out which one did this to you. And so she stands up and she's crying as she points to the people who did this to her.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So it's like you have this weird mix of, you know, they feel like these are their only protectors in life because that's all they knew to be their protectors, but at the same time, they just were not worthy of these children at all. That's what grooming looks like, right? When you still somewhat feel love for them that you don't want to, like, these kids would never have tattled on them. Like, they would have never. The twin sisters.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So Donald's wife, her name is Wendy. Now she has a twin sister, and they would have three ways. The twin sisters would have sex with each other and with one of their kids. So sometimes it was one of Wendy's kids that they would bring. So I mean, this is just how twisted it is. It's not even just like the male relatives. It's like the twin sisters who are the aunts.
Starting point is 00:45:19 They would have sex with each other. Their twins and they would bring in one of their kids at a time. So the twin sister plus one of their kids? Yeah. What the f**k? So there was like Wendy's kid with Wendy and Wendy's twin sister, or the twin sister with Wendy and one of the twin sister's kids. I feel like they're like so far beyond, like they're just doing, hey let's see what else we can come up with with all of our family members.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah. Was this not the biggest thing when it happened? No, no, literally nobody talks about this. Even in the true crime community, there's not a lot of buzz about this case. Why is that? I don't know. Maybe it's just so depraving that it's hard for people to read, because I know there's
Starting point is 00:46:05 a lot of cases like, so Jun goes case. I mean, you have one of the most disgusting crimes and you also have a lot of people who don't really know about it compared to Ted Bundy just because once you know about it, you can never unknow. And so maybe it's not really a case that people would even want to try to click on to or listen to about or read about. Maybe it's not really a case that people would even want to try to click on to or listen to about or read about. I mean, I went through, I mean, just hours of reading some redundant as articles from
Starting point is 00:46:35 like Alabama local news, just to piece it together. And it took me so long to be like, okay, so this happened in this chronological order. Like, it took me so long because I don't know why people aren't really talking about it. And so these twin sisters, they would just like have three ways with their own children. And a lot of the time their husbands would watch. So imagine it's like Donald would watch his wife
Starting point is 00:46:58 and his daughter with his wife's twin sister. Just like disgusting. I mean, I know what to say. Now, the assistant DA of Alabama in this county, they claimed that, I mean, when all of these rest were being made, because they made eight family arrest, they arrested eight people inside of that family and three family friends.
Starting point is 00:47:17 All of the Alabamaians were like, what the fuck's going on? And like, you got a lot of snow, like, what's going on? Like, how is an entire family? Like, how does one's family like is this again Beato family like is this a mob boss family because how else does every single family remember get a raster That it just makes sense and so the DA was like okay I'm just gonna say this but pretty much everyone in the extended family was having sex with another and with children So he was just like we don't even we're sorting through this too. And it's just insane because I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:46 we, there's no, there's no profiling for something like this. There's no, okay. So there's clear lines cut. So the family, they have this values, but these are there, you know, they won't do anything like this. Like with most criminals, you have things like that. You have, okay, the criminal likes to do this because they, A, W, C, and D, right? But they'll never do this because a B C N D. With this family, it was
Starting point is 00:48:08 like they're just doing everything and it's disgusting and it's illegal and we don't even, we don't even know if we know everything. And so the DA is like they don't even know what they haven't done. Yeah, and so the DA was pretty much just saying like pretty much everyone's just having sex with one another and with children. So we're just going off of that for now because they can't even sum it up. They can't even be like, oh, it's just, you know, eight rape charges. It's like, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And it happened so frequently again. For the victims, it almost felt normal. So these children, it happened so frequently that they couldn't even really give instances as evidence that were very prominent. So with a lot of abuse with children, there's usually one story. This may be Christmas day and the uncle came over or something like that. This one was just like, I mean, it happens every day. Like, what do you want me to tell you? That's how bad it was.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And so Wendy Holland, she was Donald's wife. She was the one that gets arrested. Sorry, I keep saying Donald's wife has a lot of words. It's a lot of names. And so she gets arrested. And she was arrested for incest, sodomy, and sexual torture, and she was sentenced to 219 years. Now, keep that in mind, which is really good.
Starting point is 00:49:32 But then the rest of the family got off so easy. And her twin sister, who was involved in all of this, got 40 years in prison. What? No, it gets worse, it gets worse. The dude, Dustin, the one that raped Donald's daughter, when she was 13, he only got 17 years in prison. What the fuck? So, I mean, I think they gave Wendy a lot of years because she was the closest to Donald and she was helping managing all
Starting point is 00:50:01 of this. Like, they were coordinating. Like, you would think that they're like, you know how in every family, there's like the couple that's like, Barbara, you are at our place, right? So they thought that they should get most of the blame. I mean, I just don't understand how he only got 17 years. It doesn't make sense to me. And then the other family members were arrested.
Starting point is 00:50:18 You have Donald Jr., who was arrested, and you have Derek Wood. This is Brittany Wood's older brother who was arrested and later on even though some really disturbing stuff comes out about them, they, a girl who was 12 years old at the time, they testified and said that she was gangraped by Donald Jr. and Derek Wood which is Brittany's brother and a family friend. Now because they were young and because of the circumstances let me know how you think about this. The judge and everybody decided to treat them as youth.
Starting point is 00:50:50 So that means in the state of Alabama, their court records are completely sealed. That means they're going to get a lighter sentence. And a lot of it has to come down to the point which they are not the senior members. You know, they endured a lifetime of abuse that is on record, that is mostly provable, and then they became offenders
Starting point is 00:51:10 themselves. So it's kind of like this twisted. I mean, I don't know how to feel about it honestly, because in any second that I'm like, well, I understand why Alabama did that. Then I think about the 12 year old girl who's like, well, I don't care why they did that. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Suddenly, I have to expect you to be lenient to the people who gang raped me because they were gang raped. Like, I don't understand, right? That's true. Yeah, that's true. If you look at all circumstances, then every person, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Murder had a very sad childhood, but then still you heard someone that there's got to be consequences, yeah. So even though they were not of the age of youth, they were categorized as youth offenders, and they were giving leniency with their records being sealed. And then you have three family friends who ended up getting light sentences, like three years or something
Starting point is 00:52:01 like that, for also raping the children. And then you have Randall Scott Wood, who is Brittany Wood's brother, you know, Brittany Wood's mom's brother. And he was arrested, he got three years in prison for raping a bunch of his nieces, like what? And it's crazy because in some cases, I mean, Alabama did make some very suspicious decisions
Starting point is 00:52:26 on this case that I just quite cannot understand. And with Dustin, the rapist, he ended up getting out on bail. Don't know how that happened, but he ended up getting out on bail. And the rule that they gave him was, hey listen, you can go out on bail. As long as you don't contact anyone under the age of 16 years old. Unless they're your family members. And everyone's like, what do you mean? That's literally who he's raping. Like it's not like he's going out onto the streets and kidnapping a 13 year old girl.
Starting point is 00:52:59 He's raping his niece. He's raping his own daughters. Like, what do you mean? Like, that is literally the whole reason that he is even going to jail Yeah, what's going on? It's for raping his family members, but they're like no you can go outside as long as you don't like you know hang out with anyone under the age of 16 But they can be your family So it's like okay, so he can just go out on bail is what you're saying and so the child pornography thing becomes a huge theory Now this is again a theory. This is not proved. This is a big allegation.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And so the reason child pornography comes into play is that the police didn't release a ton of information about this, which is kind of sus. Now a lot of people think there's reasons that police and the FBI do this, but a lot of editors also find it very interesting that in cases like this, for some reason child porn is not widely
Starting point is 00:53:46 talked about in the true crime world. Even though it's one of the most depraved disgusting, I mean, we got to catch these people type of crimes. And so they think that there must have been a lot of child porn found or enough. This is a very just poverty-stricken area in Alabama. And this entire family, they were impoverished. They did not make ends meet. They were not living a middle-class life. The way that people wrote about them in articles was just taken over by poverty and drugs.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Like they were just living in the worst conditions, doing horrible things and just doing tons of drugs, okay? So they didn't have a lot of money. Now, some of these bales were really high for them. A lot of people argue that bail is low for them, but bail is set to per person. So it's not about the depth of your crime. It's not about, oh, is your crime so bad
Starting point is 00:54:35 that you deserve a million dollar bail, right? It's about how much can this person afford? So that's why you have, if like, let's say, Jeff Bezos ever gets arrested, his bail is gonna be just fucking trillions of dollars It's gonna be something very difficult. It's gonna be something that okay if he pays 10% of this or even 20% or all of it That is not money. He can walk away from he can't afford to lose it all because if you run away you never get that money back Does that make sense? Yeah, so if these people are making no money and their
Starting point is 00:55:06 bail is set to a hundred thousand dollars per person, that's a lot of money. I mean, even if you get a bail bondsman and you only paid 10% of it upfront, that's $10,000. That they don't have? That they don't have. But suddenly, suddenly, all of the family members could afford a bail. Oh really? Yeah and a lot of them got on bail. The one that had a bail got out on bail. How did that happen? That's why people think it was the child pornography.
Starting point is 00:55:34 The distribution of child pornography is incredibly lucrative. Why weren't they after that? You're saying they were not talking about it. They're not. I mean, I don't know. There's so many weird things about this case. I mean, some people are like, let's give the cops the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they're working on a massive thing right now, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But for me, it's just weird. Yeah, it's fucking weird. This is one of the craziest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, the cops get even weirder later. That's why I don't really give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in this case. But they get a little bit weirder So I mean just dust and Kent and Derek Wood and Donald Jr I mean their their bills were set at like a hundred thousand dollars per person
Starting point is 00:56:16 And they all paid they all paid. I mean sure they paid like 10% of it. That's like ten thousand dollars per person Still a lot of money. Yeah, and there was other family members who had like $30,000 of bail. And so that's like $3,000. But again, you were talking about a very impoverished area. And you're talking about family that just did not have any family money. Like they didn't have a savings account. They didn't even have like a checking account. Like they were just really, really broke.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Mm-hmm. Yeah. So suddenly they can afford a bail. So that's why people have this crazy theory about the child pornography. And also, I think when the police is not upfront about everything, it just makes people's minds go crazy. So it just makes us think, okay, there's so many about that,
Starting point is 00:56:58 there's so much that I've had so many questions about. Why are the police here is breezing over this? As if like, yeah, so we had reports about child porn, so we conducted a search warrant and yeah, what do you mean? In most cases, you're like, and then you found no evidence, you found evidence, or just like, yes, so we conducted a search warrant. And we're like, okay, did you understand? And then the whole thing with a bail, and it's like, how did they afford a bail? Nobody will answer.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Nobody will say anything. Like are they drug dealers? Because sometimes the police will be like, well, they're drug dealers, so they're not getting bail. Or like they got cash, we know it, but they're not getting bail. But it's like, okay, fine. And then something even shocking happens.
Starting point is 00:57:41 During all of this, you have a woman by the name of Chessie Wood. Now Chessie Wood has a lot of sympathy from a lot of people, including me, a little bit, a tiny bit, not a lot. And she's Brittany's mom. She's Brittany's biological mom. And during all of this, she said, we need to find Brittany. You know, we need to find Brittany. I know Donald had something to do with it. I know he did, and now he's dead, and now he's taking all the secrets to the grave.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I need answers. I need answers, and she helped conduct these massive searches for her daughter. Am I saying that she hates her daughter? Am I saying she doesn't love her daughter? No. Am I saying she was a good mom? No, I don't think she was a good mom.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Well, she gets arrested. No, I don't think she's a good mom. Well, she gets arrested. For allegedly having sex with a 10-year-old female relative. Brittany's mom too. I just weren't expecting it. The rest of the family, your uncles and aunts, they're just doing this crazy shit. Brittany goes missing. Maybe Brittany and Brittany's mom were different.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Maybe Brittany's mom was different. You know, maybe Brittany's mom was different Not Brittany. Well, I thought I thought her mom has always been Pimping her out since she was young Regulation. Yeah, I thought like the grandpa, you know, you saw the grandpa was a something that was what nine and she has You know has been assaulted even before that and as a mom like you say everybody does it she knows what's going on So I already assume she's part of this. Yeah. Well, you're saying people were... They were shell shocked because I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:13 I think the way that the stuff was being released to the public was not necessarily the way I told it. So, you know, right after she goes missing, of course you have a mom championing this, you know, let's find my daughter. You have lots of people sympathizing. And then you get all of this information. And then you're like, oh my god, I can't believe. Maybe it happened to Brittany and her mom didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh my god, I bet her mom is heartbroken. And then you're like, oh my god, her mom was arrested. You know, it's kind of like what? And then also, I think with the grandma's boyfriend thing, you know, I think people had a little tiny bit of not sympathy, but like, okay, I mean, I get it. Maybe Britney's mom was messed up because of her mom, you know, but you just don't think that she also actively partoken all of this. And so she was, you know, accused of having sex with an underage female. So she claims, you know, Chessie Wood, Britney's mom claims that all of these allegations
Starting point is 01:00:06 and the reason that she's imprisoned right now is completely untrue. She has no idea what's happening and the law enforcement has no idea what's happening. And she just pretty much claims that listen, Alabama police are just getting ripped right now. The locals are like, fuck this police department. Y'all don't know shit. Like you guys should have known about this six years ago, but you guys didn't do anything. And so now the locals are like fuck this police department. Y'all don't know shit. Like you guys should have known about this six years ago, but you guys didn't do anything. And so now the police are allegedly in her opinion over compensating and just arresting every single person in the family
Starting point is 01:00:33 because they don't even care. They're like, hey, we don't care if you actually did anything arrested. Are you about the age of 18 arrested? And so that's her claim. I don't really believe her on that because I mean, I feel like after this incident, it seems like the people, like the detectives were replaced with new ones. And because, you know, I heard some people that were actually complimenting some of the detectives that were put on the case later in this little progress. And so I don't know, maybe, but I doubted it
Starting point is 01:01:04 feels like she did do something or something shady and the way that she talks about kids is so messed up so her defense was listen these kids are so messed up from the trauma that they have and they've been brainwashed by the real perpetrators that they don't even know what's going on. And I'm innocent. Aren't you one of the fucking real perpetrators? She's like, no, I'm not. That's her defense, don't mind. Oh my god, these people are just... Yeah. And so why Britney, right? And the police, the fact that they didn't release this information, and this was released by family relatives,
Starting point is 01:01:43 and then the police were like, oh yeah, like like we were gonna we're gonna talk about that too You happen to get there before we did is why Brittany and why now? Why did Brittany go missing? Was there something that happened? Was there something that triggered this event because if we know that Brittany had been abused since she was you know three four years old More concretely nine years old Why now? She's 19, it's been 10 years. Was the abuse still going on?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Was Donald trying to pick her up to abuse her? What was the reason? And it seems like Brittany was trying to end the generations of abuse. So there are relatives from her dad's side. So it seems like her dad's side didn't really partake in any of this. It seems like it was all coming from from her dad side. So it seems like her dad side didn't really partake in any of this. It seems like it was all coming from the mom side.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You know, all of them are uncles or aunts that are related to her mom. But the dad saw knew about it. No. So they're divorced. So it seems like the dad wasn't that involved in her life, you know, and her mom just took her. And I mean, there's no record that the dad knew. I mean, so far the dad and the stepmom have been fighting hard
Starting point is 01:02:49 to get dressed as for Brittany. So it's kind of confusing. I mean, at this point, I don't really trust anyone in this family, I'm just going to be honest. I mean, I'm going to give them the benefit of the dad, but I don't trust them. And so they said, OK, well, she was trying to end generations of abuse.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And the way that the dad's side kind of described her is, she's like a pocket stick of dynamite. Like, she's different. She's not the type of kid who's gonna get abused and then become an abuser. Like, she wanted to change their family. And she just had a lot of love for everyone. And she almost, she was one of the older cousins.
Starting point is 01:03:23 It seems, and so she felt like she had to watch over these younger cousins. Now why now? Why may of 2012? Well, it seemed like she was trying to confront Donald. Because a couple days before May 30th, before she got into that car with Donald, she had gotten a Facebook message from one of her teenage relatives who were much younger than her and the message pretty much was telling Brittany that hey, three male relatives raped me and it seemed like Brittany was fucking mad and she was ready and she was gonna confront Donald. She's gonna go to the police. The police actually wanted to talk to Brittany in the next week or so before she went missing. They had plans to ask her and she was old enough.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And I mean, I don't like to say this, but she had lived through so much of it that her testimony would have locked everyone up in prison for like forever. Just like Wendy, but he didn't lock them up forever. Yeah, because her testimony would have been the strongest. And the craziest thing is that all of these adults, you know what they have to say about these kids testimonies? They're like, kids don't know what they're saying. I hate when people say that. And it seems like that was triggered.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And also she kind of had a daughter to protect. Now it gets muddy because it just gets really muddy. Who has a daughter to protect? Brittany. Oh yeah, you're old. Yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot about that. And so it seems like maybe it was the whole daughter thing.
Starting point is 01:04:57 It was also her teenage relative messaging her. I mean, it seemed like all of this was just pounding at her to be like, we got to stop this, right? And again, there's just so many people who don't have sympathy for this motive because they're like, well, if she wanted to protect her daughter She should stop doing drugs, you know, but it's very different. Yeah, and so there's a couple theories about what actually happened Because we still don't know where Brittany is. Her body was never recovered. She's presumed dead, but we don't have a body. We don't have anything. We don't have any evidence. The police release after all of this happened that the gun that was used for that allegedly self-inflicted wound on Donald was actually Brittany's gun. And they also found her cell phone battery in his car. So this caused, you know, the
Starting point is 01:05:47 small group of people that are super interested in this case, these internet sleuths, you know, these RBI's, to start kind of putting together some theories. So we've got theory number one, which is the one that the general public seems to kind of believe, which is the fact that Brittany went to confront her uncle Donald. He ended up murdering her and whether he had helped disposing of her body with his other fucked up, you know, why for his fucking brother and lost sister and law does matter, right? Whether he had help or not, Donald killed Britney. And then he thought, you know, the police are going to be knocking on my door in a couple
Starting point is 01:06:23 days. I don't want to go to jail. I don't wanna go to jail. I don't want the same thing to happen to me that I did to these kids for generations. I don't wanna get raped in jail. Maybe he was thinking that. Because you know, it's funny. It's really freaking funny. And it is a thing in prison. It's a thing. I've never been. I've never been a prison. Never really visited. But I heard it's a thing that if you are a child rapist or a child molester, you will get raped in prison. That's but I heard it's a thing that if you are a child rapist or a child
Starting point is 01:06:45 molester, you will get raped in prison. That's what I heard. Am I really upset about it? Probably not. Am I losing sleep over the fact that they're getting raped in prison? Maybe not. I mean, these specific people I'm saying. And so maybe he was like, I can't handle what I dish out. So I'm going to end my life. And he killed himself. It's a part to believe that for me. Because he's such a fucked up person. Yeah, right. Yeah, and then why use Britney's gotten?
Starting point is 01:07:10 Maybe he wanted to frame Britney. Maybe he didn't think it was gonna play out the way that he did. Maybe he thought people would think that Britney killed him and it would be like his last so-or-did revenge. Because if you think that someone's a killer, would you be looking for their body?
Starting point is 01:07:23 No, you'd be looking at things differently. And that's what's kind of creepy. When you're looking for someone on the run, you follow a very different investigation from when you're trying to recover someone's dead body. So that would just lead them somewhere else. So that would kind of explain the gun aspect. Now theory number two is a very, very optimistic one. It's the one that Brittany killed Donald and she's alive now.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Right away. There's not a lot of people who believe in it. Some people believe in it because of this reason. The first question is, no, Brittany could never because how could she leave her daughter? That doesn't make sense. You can't leave your daughter, especially when you know that your family is doing all of these things. How can you leave your daughter without even going to the police first, right?
Starting point is 01:08:05 That's also true, yeah. But there's evidence against that too. Because even before she disappeared and went missing, her daughter was legally under the sole custody of the boy, the baby daddy. Okay, so the kids... So maybe she felt like, okay, this is just me thinking, right? Psychologically, okay? She's on drugs, you know? And it seems like Brittany, from what I can tell,
Starting point is 01:08:33 is a very loving person. So it seems, you know, some people are speculating, maybe it was like that, kind of, it almost sounds like a movie, like that moment where the mom is like, I'm no good for my kid. Like, I'm just strong out on drugs She's better off without me. I can't help her I can't even help myself and so she knows legally the kid would go to the dad's grandparents or the dad
Starting point is 01:08:53 Which she ended up going there and she would end up you know killing this disgusting ring leader and she would leave I I leader and she would leave. I personally kind of believe that or would like to believe that. And it feels like it makes sense. And the reason that the people who believe it believe it so strongly is because she, like I said, she wasn't living like a middle-class life. And when you're in more of that poverty line, it's, I mean, this sounds weird to say, like it's easier to disappear because there's no paper trail. So when you're in the middle class life, you've got credit cards that you're probably withdrawing
Starting point is 01:09:31 cash out of. Like, you've got a plethora of paper trails. Like, why did he withdraw $3,000 last week before he disappeared? You know, you have all of these things. But when you're under the poverty line and maybe you're not making money in legal on the books type of way, it's so much easier to just disappear. Sure. And it's so much easier. And another thing is, for some reason, this wasn't like nationally covered.
Starting point is 01:09:57 This wasn't on all of the biggest, just new stations. It was very local. It's so weird. Which is weird because you don't really hear about crimes like this. This is a crime that all of the world would be like, what I need to know about this. This is really bad.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Yeah. But it wasn't. Why don't people believe this? Just because it's been so long since she's been gone. And there haven't been any reported sightings of her. She hasn't come forward after they got arrested So it makes sense that you know all of these perpetrators are arrested so she comes forward She helps testify keep them in jail longer
Starting point is 01:10:33 Maybe even see her daughter again, you know, I see so it's kind of that But then also you have the aspect of what if she just needs to get away and the trauma to go back to that and to testify and to be wrapped up in that again. Maybe it would just not be good for her. Sometimes, you know, with such traumatic situations, maybe you do need such a dramatic, clean break. Okay. Okay. So it's kind of something that you can just keep bouncing back and forth. Like I don't know if I believe it or don't believe it, but it's, it's one that makes me feel a little happier, I guess, in such a shitty situation. And then theory number three is going to be the darkest fucking theory of them all, which is that
Starting point is 01:11:14 Brittany and Donald were both murdered. Not by one another, but by your best friend, Wendy. Donald's wife. Okay. Best Friend, Wendy. Donald's wife. Okay. Now, why do we think this? Why does anybody think that they were both murdered? By the wife. Why would the wife murder her husband? And her niece, none of this makes sense. Well, the prosecutor has been trying to open the door with Wendy
Starting point is 01:11:38 because she sentenced to 219 years in prison. The bitch is not getting out. Like, let's just be honest. She's going to spend the rest of her life in prison. And so the prosecutor is trying to give her a little bit of an incentive. Maybe it doesn't have to be the rest of your life. Maybe you can get out one day and see your grandkids. Wouldn't you like that?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Okay, that's probably the worst thing to say right now. I'm sorry. That is like what they would say to a normal person that's in jail for something else. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, wouldn't you like to go out and see the sunshine once, you know, before you die? And so they were trying to open the door to be like, listen, we're not going to give you the exact number of the exact figure, but you know, we could definitely work something out if you tell us
Starting point is 01:12:16 where Brittany's body is. So we can get some closures, we can close the case so that all of the Alabamians will stop yelling at us, police force You know so the family could get some closure Well, not really the family who gives a fuck about the family her daughter can get some closure You know when she grows up she'll know what happened But Wendy refuses Now why what do you mean refuses? She doesn't want to have that conversation She absolutely refuses. Why does a woman who's about to spend the rest of her life in prison?
Starting point is 01:12:47 What would incentivize her to not talk? Everything would point towards the fact that she should talk. What if she doesn't know? I mean, she seems like the type of this that will make some shit up anyway. And try to, or try to finesse something, or lead the police on.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Why is she suddenly so fucking quiet? We'll get this. This is everyone's speculation. Alabama has the death penalty. And they are actually the state with the highest per capita sentencing rate. So I don't like to say this, but they're probably the loosiest, go of them all of all the states to hand out
Starting point is 01:13:26 Descences, they're probably like you get a Descence you get a Descence I obviously don't believe in capital punishment if you can't tell right so they're thinking Okay, if she murdered Brittany She could now be tried for murder It's not double jeopardy. She's been tried for sexual torture of underage children, rape, satami, all of these things, but she hasn't been charged for murder, which could very possibly, especially in this case, get her the death sentence. So if they find Brittany's body, maybe there's some evidence that somehow Wendy was involved.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And so she never wants her body to be found. Now, the other reason that people think that Donald was also murdered, because it's like, okay, well, this kind of sounds like they're a number one. Like, what if she just helped murder Brittany and then Donald killed himself? There are so many people that just don't understand
Starting point is 01:14:19 how Donald can kill himself. He doesn't sound like someone who has any guilt, remorse, shame, or fear for law enforcement or fear of consequences. What do you mean? He just committed suicide. On top of the suspicious nature of being behind his ear like the back of the head, it just didn't make sense. So people say, this is crazy. It's not talked about. The locals know this though. That Wendy was the one that called 911. She said, oh my God, my husband said he was going to commit suicide and I followed him in his car and he came to the river and he shot himself, please help, please help.
Starting point is 01:14:55 The police arrive. Wendy's crying, she's putting on a show allegedly. Now the police do see something that's a little weird. All the text messages from Donald's phone were completely gone. So did Wendy go murder him and then delete all his text messages and then call the police? Interesting. It's just a little weird because Donald also seems like the one that wouldn't really care to protect his family if he was gone.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I mean he doesn't protect his own kids, so What makes you think he's gonna protect all of them? So there's, like, people just don't understand, like psychologically, it's really hard to understand Donald to even begin with, because how do you psychologically try to analyze or understand just this disgusting human scum, right? But on top of that, the minute that you think that you understand, you're like, well, then this doesn't fit.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like, why would he try to protect his family? And then why would he kill himself? He doesn't seem like the type that would kill himself. Why did he delete those messages and then kill himself? Did he even do any of that? So the only explanation you're saying is when do you kill him? Yeah. Why would she kill him one more time?
Starting point is 01:16:04 Because he was about to go down. He was getting questioned by the police in a couple days. Brittany was getting questioned by the police in a couple days. So if she kills him. But also if she kills him, I mean, I'm sure there's many options. She kills Brittany, she kills Donald. The police know something's going on in the family,
Starting point is 01:16:24 but they don't really have evidence? Or maybe she thinks this will even stop the police because it's like you have an abused kid who's now missing Then you have Donald who commits suicide. He's getting investigated. So maybe he's the only one that did all of this Because it did take the police a while to unpack that all of these women were involved Okay, this one is a little crazy. Yeah, it's kind of hard to follow, but okay. But you think you say this is the most, um, supported diary? No, the first one's the most supported that Donald killed Brittany and then killed himself. But then the people that like really studied this one, they just don't see the cycle,
Starting point is 01:17:04 like the psychology behind it Yeah, and what makes it even creepier is that there is a rumor. This is a rumor That came out from someone who works at the local cell phone store that Brittany had like her plan with like her cell phone plan with Mm-hmm And Wendy called after she went missing and tried to get Brittany's password to her voice mail and was saying like, oh my niece forgot it. I'm just trying to get some clues to find my niece. Now the search is fresh again.
Starting point is 01:17:36 This happened in 2012. The police unpacked all of this information. Very what I see to be sloppy, just kind of sl of sloppy tossed it out into the press right? Not a lot of press picked up on it. I also think it's just so complex and so disgusting that that's the reason but recently there was a body that they're trying to look for. A bunch of canine dogs
Starting point is 01:17:59 started barking around where like one of the aunts was living like near the aunts private property. And this was all happening because the police got an anonymous tip that Britney's body would be there. And so they brought all of their canine dogs, they all barked barked barked, they dug dug dug, but apparently nothing was found. So it's just it's weird. Now the locals are kind of getting upset. So what you see online and then what you see the local saying are kind of different. So what you see online is like the police are like the dogs were barking, we dug it up and
Starting point is 01:18:30 nothing was found. Yeah. Oh, bad day. We're going to try again. But the locals are saying, but we saw you and y'all weren't digging that hard. But we saw you and it wasn't that long of a search. But we saw you and it didn't seem like you really cared. And so now it seems like there's a little bit of more local heat that's getting involved
Starting point is 01:18:49 because this crime, for the longest time, even a bunch of locals didn't even know about it. Like from what I could read on Reddit, everyone's like, I live like 40 minutes away from that town and I had no fucking idea this was happening. Oh boy, this is dark. Yeah, and so now that locals are getting involved, I mean, I'm hoping this...
Starting point is 01:19:06 I don't want to say this family. That's what I say in most cases, but I don't care about the fucking family. I hope Brittany's daughter gets answers. Because when she grows up, she deserves to know what happened to her mom. Yeah. Not the rest of the family. I could care less about the rest of the family. And so Peyton, who's her daughter,
Starting point is 01:19:25 is living with her legal guardians, which happens to be her dad's parents. And sometimes she will spend the weekends with Britney's dad and stepmom, who seemed to be completely clear from the police, like they are not suspects. They did not know any of this was happening. They were not ever investigated, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:42 in terms of being suspicious. And they were leading a lot of efforts to find Britney's. Stephanie is the stepmom's name. She was, you know, talking to lots of press trying to get, you know, eyes on this case. And it's really sad because Britney's stepmom, Stephanie, was saying that, at the right now, Peyton, her daughter thinks that her mom works for the local news because that's the only time she's seen her pictures up was when they would turn on the TV and she would see her mom on the local news. And so she thought that her mom
Starting point is 01:20:18 was working for the local news. And they don't know what to say because they don't have closure. They can't say your mom was murdered by this disgusting man, you know, or this disgusting woman. They don't know what to say because they don't even have answers. So as of right now, they just, they tell Peyton like your mom is bye bye for now, but one day maybe. And that is the story of one of the most depraved families in the US and yeah. And also I did see lots of comments on Reddit from Alabama and so we're like, I'm fucking pissed.
Starting point is 01:20:56 So just make sweet home Alabama even worse for us. Most of them are just normal people. We're like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're like really fucking really. Shit, that's fucking crazy. What do you guys think happened? I'm really interested to know. And I'm really interested to know like, why do you think that this isn't all over national news?
Starting point is 01:21:20 I just didn't really understand that. I mean, it just took so long to piece together. There really wasn't lots of big networks or really anyone talking about it. Yeah, that's what I want to know, too. Why is everything so shady? Especially because, I mean, I hate to say this. But when you're talking about, like, true crime,
Starting point is 01:21:40 this is probably a very clickable case in the sense of, you know, people are kind of intrigued by dark stuff like this. I mean, which is kind of why I ended up in the rabbit hole because I'm like, I need to know more. What do you mean? And so I click, click, click, click, click, and then 100 articles later from Alabama, I'm like, oh my god. So I just don't know why. But if you guys have an idea, let me know, or maybe you live in Alabama, let me know. But also, to all of my Alabamaians out there, we fucking love you. I'm sorry, I love you guys, and I'll see you guys next Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Bye.

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