Rotten Mango - GF Caught Tiktok Looksmaxxer BF Buying CP, Exposed Him, But Fans Still Support Him

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

It's unclear who the saying "it can always be worse", is meant for.   A girl named Liv is suspicious that her boyfriend of 8 months is cheating on her.   But it can always be worse, right? But w...hat if it's as bad as it can get? What if there is no worse… this is the bottom? Then what?   Liv reaches over while Mason sleeps. There is only one way to find out if he's cheating on her, go through his phone. Within the hour, she's packing her things and making a run for it.   What she found wasn't another woman. It was Mason negotiating prices with strangers on Telegram: $20 for videos, $30 for megalinks, $80 for all of the above. And links to what she later described to police as little girls between the ages of 6 and 7 years old, some as young as 3.   This is the case of Mason Hullo, a TikTok looksmaxxer exposed by his ex for purchasing CSAM, and his bizarre excuse behind why.         Full show notes available at RottenMangoPodcast.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you guys haven't listened to the first half of this audio podcast, please do. We went down the foundational ideology of what LuxMaxing is, as well as the different pills, red pill, blue pill, purple pill, black pill. And I feel like we're overdosing on looks maxing, but we're almost done. So we're going to finish the lore of clavicular before we dive into everything that has transpired with Mason Hull and how he was arrested for copious charges of possessing C-Sam. So with that, let's get started. I don't know if clavicular popularized bone smashing,
Starting point is 00:00:34 but he apparently partook in it. So he shows himself a lot using trophies and hammers, just hitting his face, which, you know, there's also pictures that he shows where his entire face is so swollen, he can barely open his eyes. And he says that he would show up to work like that every single time. Like his whole face looks like he's wearing rare beauty blush
Starting point is 00:00:55 on the top of his cheekbones because he's been hammering it so hard. It's not even giving Hunter It's giving pink eye. He said that he used to go into work every day looking like that because he would bone smash so hard. He's done an interview where he talks about everything that he takes on a daily basis. And I don't know how true any of this is or if he's doing it for shock value, but equally problematic, right? He says, I'm taking testosterone every single day. I take monoxide for my hair.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I take dutastoride for my hair. I take 7.5 milligrams of acutane a day. I use crystal meth as a stimulant to lean max. It's much more mild than Adderall, actually. and I'm pretty much using meth for hollow cheeks. Wait, he's just openly admitting what's going on? Yeah, yeah. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:01:37 He says, models will do Coke to get their appetite to go away, but meth just lasts a lot longer. He says, for three days, I spammed a combination of adrol and methamphetamine for appetite suppression. I literally went on a three-day fast and stayed awake the entire time. I lost five pounds. He's asked, did it feel good? And he says, of course, it's fucking meth.
Starting point is 00:01:54 He's also taken like anabolic steroids, which is not even approved for huge. human usage at this point. It's just for animals. It's called like Trenbolone or something. Yeah. And he talks about it. He also talks about how he takes pregab and Baclophone pills, which it's supposed to mimic the feeling of being drunk. But you cannot take them long term because you probably potentially are going to get Parkinson's, especially if you don't need these drugs, which he does not need them. Yeah. And in another clip to, I don't know how many viewers that take his words like the gospel. He says, you should be on your computer for hours, researching,
Starting point is 00:02:30 creating yourself a regimen. I mean, how can I ascend? What can I do? Not worried about what kind of side effects could I get from this. What could go wrong? How about what could go right? Side note, Ascend is just another masculine repackaging for the concept of glowing up. And clavicular is nothing, if not committed to his ascension. He says for him, he was ordering illegal testosterone. He would get it into a PO box. And he says, I'm just someone who is willing to do whatever needs to be done. so I would just reorder it to a P.O. Box instead. A lot of people will come after my parents for the things that I did, but realistically, no one was stopping me. I was committed to my goal.
Starting point is 00:03:02 He even gets kicked out of college for roid-maxing. So he would brag about how he's roid-maxing on these forums. And someone called his college, they raided his dorm room, found a bunch of stairroids. Okay. They kicked him out. Oh, that's literally how he got kicked out of school. And then started his influencer career. And why not just work out and not use steroids?
Starting point is 00:03:21 He says, Natty Gaines are slow and gay. Natty means natural in the world of, I don't know what world that is, okay, but he says, I am the pioneer of mainstream plastic surgery for men's aesthetics. He thinks the future is, quote, every motherfucker will have some sort of titanium implant in their face. rhinoplasties are being handed out like it's fucking food stamps. He says, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So this is a method. So I've been telling people you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not going to get you in that much trouble. and you'll mock so you'll be able to sort of get out of it. This is crazy. And for someone who spends so much time and energy into mocking, he just like continuously goes viral for getting outmogged by random people.
Starting point is 00:04:05 He was interviewed by 60 minutes where he's just monged by the reporter. He goes to meet an ASU frat leader, which that was like a fake narrative. Apparently he's not a frat leader. Apparently he is a bodybuilder, but he gets brutally framed-mogged. Like he does get mocked. And then later, the judge presiding over one of his cases, because he was arrested a few times. I'm going to get into that.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But the judge mocks the shit out of him. Holy cow. Okay. Like, mocks him really hard. And he's just going around getting mocked. So how does he take that when he gets outmogged? He's actually like the one thing about clavicular, I will say, is he's like very open to being embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Oh. He's just like, I got outmogged. Okay. Does he, does that motivate him to smash his face more? Is that what happened? Yeah. Okay. But he, like, I guess that's the part where maybe he gets a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:51 of attention and fame because he's not like weird about it because you would imagine a lot of guys would be like, I didn't get mugged, but he's just like, yeah, why the fuck did I get mugged? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's kind of, yeah. So his, his, his like nose proportion is just 2% better than mine. Yeah, probably pulling up Adobe Photoshop. The looks maxers love Adobe Photoshop. They love to get like the little measuring tool and then do the facial thirds.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And the way they do it, like I'm watching their screen recordings. it's so smooth. I'm like, wow. Oh my God, are you looking for your job? Yeah. Wow. So they are serious about this.
Starting point is 00:05:28 This is not a bit. No. Wow. This is a lifestyle. Interesting. Yeah. But he does sort of get a redemption arc, even though I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay, he's also the one that said that we need to go back to the patriarchy times. As if we somehow escaped it. As if women are just like incapable of holding themselves to. any moral code. That's what he said. He, yeah, yeah, he thinks we need to go back to a patriarchy and that Nick Fuentes should be president. He would vote for Nick Fuentes or Gavin Newsom if it's up between Gavin Newsom and J.D. Vance. But he goes viral because this is basically the Kloviki era. Woviki and Clevicular have a live stream collab. And Woe Vicky is an interesting person, I have not dived into the lore of Wo Vicky, so please correct me if I'm wrong and excuse me if I have
Starting point is 00:06:24 any misconceptions. But what I know about Wo Vicky and Bad Baby are those two individuals seem like they grew up on the internet and have probably been through so much that people almost have like a soft spot for both of them. Right. And Wo Vicky, she, I don't know if she's been on, I don't know what's happened. But anyway, she was in a collaboration with him. And she asks him if he has autism. And this is something that he talks about very openly where he feels like even looks maxing is a hyper fixation of his autism. He talks about how growing up it was difficult for him. And it seems like he could feel a little sensitive to it about it. But Woviki is just like, oh, I don't even mean to be funny.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like I love people with autism. They normally attract it. They attract to me. Like my little brothers and sisters all have autism. And so he actually seems like he's into it and he's smiling a lot. She also points out that he must be real rich because. his Rolex has diamonds in it and she's never seen a Rolex with diamonds in it. She asks if he knows anything about cortisol being recessed.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like cortisol or your stress levels and then recessed. I think she's talking about like the chin going in. But he points out that she's just combining a bunch of random words that the looks and Max and Community have. And everyone just started shipping them because he actually seems to be really nice to her. Like he's, this is how little he's nice to girls. And he seems like most of his live streams are him going. to clubs in Miami and either flirting with girls and getting rejected or being mean to girls.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I see. And he's actually quite nice to her, at least in the viral clips. And he asks her, well, you think we'd have good kids together? And she's like, yeah, I think they'd be cute. And he said, probably from your side, mostly. And she's like, no, you look nice too. And he's like, you look better. I think you got me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So they're flirting a lot. And he even says, this is a viral clip where he says, God damn, Vicky, I wish I met you five years ago. So it almost made people feel like, oh, like, then he wouldn't have gone down this very self-destructive looks maxing spiral and they would have ridden off into the sunset together. Yeah. At some point, she asks to pray for him because she's very religious now and she asks him, is there anything Pacific? And he's very confused. She's like, in the Pacific.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And she responds, yeah, like, you want me to pray for you? And he's like, I don't really know any animals in the Pacific. He's trying to be funny. Yeah, no, I think he's for real. Oh, okay, okay. So it's just like the mixture of like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I get the vibe. The neurodivergent and like the also neurodivergent, but like very different types of neurodivergent combining together and it was just very cute. They also set up a mini date because the initial stream went so well. And it did seem like they had some bit of history or chemistry. It just was nice. People noticed that, well, Vicki was the only girl that he was actively laughing around. He seemed very genuine.
Starting point is 00:09:16 win. Like there are parts where Woviki's on her phone during the date and he's like, it's not nice to be on your phone during the date. And she's like, oh, sorry. And then he asked her if there are times where she's without her phone. She responds. Sometimes she actively lets her phone die. And there was a time she didn't have her phone for two days because it wasn't charged. And he's like, what did you do during those two days? And she mentions quite cutely, used other people's phones. So it's just like really cute, right? However, I do think it was for clout. So the very initial stream, this part did not go viral, but he actually kicked WoVicky out of his stream, the very first stream, because she was using some sort of product, and he was accusing her of doing an undisclosed ad on his live stream.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And she swore it was not an ad. And then he wanted her to swear her hand on the Bible. And she said she didn't want to because that made her uncomfortable, religiously speaking. And so he kicked her out of the live stream, like out of the house. Okay. But then those clips, the flirting clips from the initial live stream started going by. And people started shipping them. So then he asked her to come back to do like a little date live stream.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So I don't know about Wo Viki's intentions. She seems pretty genuine. But I think clavicular was going where the clout was going. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 But also like what do you expect? Like this is a random blip of rebranding and virality that he had. And this like the Wo Viki clips actually pushed him to people like me. Like just people who didn't really know him. And I was like, oh, like I've heard about him. I don't know any of the stuff that he said. I just know like looks maxing is a weird concept, but it was so cute.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It almost wants you to, you want to support them. Yeah. But then you look into it. Okay. And he's also said these types of things during a live stream. Chat, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:11:00 My mom literally got fat after she had me. He also talks about girls like this. You think I want to know about your fucking hobbies? Bitch, I want to get in your fucking pants. God damn. And I want to fuck you. And I want to convince you that I'm not trying to fuck you,
Starting point is 00:11:12 which is why I'm having the conversation. So how about you do me the courtesy of telling me where at least went wrong, okay? Just so I can know. He will just tell girls that their heads are full of cum. Your fucking skull is full of cum instead of brain. Yeah, he also likes to say that the best things to come out of self-driving cars like Waymo is my favorite usage of self-driving ubers is to send stupid hoes off the fucking end of the Santa Monica pier in a self-driving car. He says in another video, unless you're a Chad, you will never experience what it's like to have a girl look at you and be truly in love.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I see so many people. They're making all this money. They got all these cars, but they've got a face that only a mother could love. I'm not telling you not to money max, but I'm telling you that until you maximize the looks along with it, you will never know what it's like. And that's a horrible reality to face.
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's truly sad. And most people won't get it. They'll cope their way around it. Oh, look at all these girls. But no girl will ever be able to look at them and truly be in love. He's also cried on stream because he ordered a burger and there was cheese on there. And he's not cheese maxing.
Starting point is 00:12:10 One of his team members was interviewed by GQ and they state, he just does butter bagel, no cream cheese. Do not hand him a fucking burger with cheese on it. He will fucking throw that shit at you. He goes on to websites like, you know those random chat websites where it links you with another person on a video call, a random stranger, like Omega or whatever those? And he just tells people how ugly they are in one clip. He says a girl is gross for being overweight, but also because she spoke in, quote,
Starting point is 00:12:36 ebonics. He also says that there's another guy who outmonged. He mogs him, but quote, but he's black. He's also said the unword before, repeatedly, I think, on stream. He's also just like promoting bottom of the barrel care when it comes to sexual health. He says, dude, it's been burning to piss. It only means one thing. Usually it goes away on its own after a while, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I'm trying to think of who even could have given it to me. You know, chat, put predictions in the chat on who gave me this fucking fired up peen. And he says that he's not going to get an STD test because he can't live stream it. So what's the point? In another stream, he takes. a woman back into his room. So his friend, it's him and his friend and two women show up. They're live streaming in the living room of Clivocular's house, or at least it looks like it. And Clivocular takes one of the girls into his bedroom. After they do whatever they do in the
Starting point is 00:13:25 bedroom, which I would imagine that they're both consenting adults at this point. There's nothing wrong with it. However, it's wrong that afterwards she's off camera in the live stream room. He's sitting in front of his little computer chair live streaming and he's shaming her in front of his chat calling her a cum dumpster for giving up her butt. Those are his words. In like five minutes of meeting him. Then he asks her to sit in frame on camera so he can probably humiliate her more. And she refuses and he says, listen up, Po, you got to learn how to listen.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I told you to sit next to me. Women not listening makes me want to fucking kill myself. Just sit in the fucking chair and stop being a bitch. If you don't sit there, you can get out. Then he tells her that she's basically an escort for how quick. Quickly, they had intimate relations, which like same could be said about you, but whatever. And he tells her, I liked it. I liked it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Okay, you're a fun time. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. She rejects. And the chat is donating money so that they can have their comment read out audibly. And like, tell me what's the difference between this and insoles. And they have the audible comment read. She's regretting being a little ho.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Now she has to do the walk of shame out of the room. She rejects wanting to have anything to do with clav anymore after this. And she says it just wasn't that good. to which he bluntly responds, yeah, I know, I'm on pre-gab so I can't get hard. And it's like, not only is it very misogynistic and inappropriate, I will say there's like a huge layer of just depression around it. Like just watching it, it's like so, wow, you did all of that so you could sleep with women and then why are you being so mean?
Starting point is 00:15:01 And then you look so miserable throughout the whole process. And then you're pushing it onto your live chat audience to do the same thing. Like what a meaningless life. He also says that every woman is pretty much a hoe. He says, I'm telling you, once a girl is not a virgin, her value is nothing. One body is a hoe. He also says things like, I don't really like a woman who tries to be super educated either and try to have these intelligent conversations because a lot of the times you could,
Starting point is 00:15:36 and this is talked about by Socrates a lot, a woman could be very well educated, but that doesn't make them a good thinker. So they just might have a lot of facts in their brain maybe from books they've read, but they don't necessarily know how to interpret them properly. They won't make the right conclusions. So I just don't want a wife who's wanting to argue about politics like all the time. He also ran someone over with his car. Okay, it wasn't just a random pedestrian.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I will say that. It is a guy that is known to be kind of a professional streamer follower. Some people call him a stalker. I don't know if I should call him that. But he shows up in a lot of live streams where he just like harasses, bothers, bothers streamers during their lives. And he finds them somehow or maybe by coincidence runs into them in public spaces. Yeah, but he did hop onto the hood of Clivocular's cyber truck and was like laying there like a
Starting point is 00:16:29 gremlin like foaming at the mouth. And Clivicular just started driving and ran over him. And Clivocular is also live streaming and he asks the girl holding the phone in the passenger seat, is he dead? And then he says, hopefully. And then right after that, he posted an. A.I. generated picture on X of him running the guy over and he captions it, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I will say, like, maybe the guy is not the most sympathetic victim. He's
Starting point is 00:16:55 alive. He did not die. But ultimately, the guy decides not to press charges, which means clavicular is free to say whatever he wants about it. Because later at a club, people are like, some girl is like, why are you so famous? I don't know. Who are you? And he says, it's because I ran a guy over with my car. Then there was another charge. Well, there was another incident that resulted in a charge. was collabing with another live streamer jenny uh jennie po potpatch i think she is also i don't know i did some light digging and there are some i don't know if they're controversial but like controversies with her apparently i don't know but she's live streaming with clav clav has a girlfriend and apparently he has a girlfriend yeah i don't know if they're still together but jenny has come out to say that she felt like
Starting point is 00:17:43 she was set up because clav would like flirt with her and she thought it was for the bit so she would kind of flirt back because you know they're all like content creators or whatever and then eventually she goes to the house where clav's girlfriend is and clav is holding jenny's arms back while the girlfriend is just like beating on jenny and there's a live stream clip of it yeah like actually beating yeah yeah yeah what is going on and then he shot an alligator in a marsh in the florida everglades he shot out a drone. There are also new allegations against him from his ex-girlfriend who
Starting point is 00:18:18 stated that she accuses him of essaying her when she was 16 and this clip has circulated online not of the essay but the next allegation that she has which is he injected her face with Aquilix the fat dissolver on camera. He was
Starting point is 00:18:35 19, she was 17 and he was not licensed to perform any such injection. Which by the way, that that injection clip was so dangerous to even watch because she looks so nervous. To me, it feels like she's peer pressured into this. And then afterwards, she's like, I think you went through my cheek. And you can see her kind of move her tongue inside her mouth.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And she's like, I think the needle went through my cheek. Right. Because that could cause nerve damage. Like, you never know what you're doing. And then she even worriedly asks him, like, am I going to get like facial paralysis? And he's like, no. Also, the whole time, the live chat is talking about how she's. a cum bucket. She's a minor. And also he's getting donations from users that go by Jeff Epstein.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So she's suing clavicular in a civil lawsuit, which his attorney has come forward to say that none of this is true and that clavicular is going to vigorously defend himself. But what does that have to do with anything else that's about to go down? Do you guys know Jidion? Okay, so Jidion is part of, I don't even know how to categorize. Like, there's, There's a lot of categories of YouTubers where they all do different things as their form of content. It's hard to say that Jidion fits into like the Predator Hunter category. He does, but he also like does other content. I think he started off as like a prank YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Here's the thing about Jidion. I know that as of recently there has been some controversies of he was friendly with another YouTuber who maybe he did not align, I think, in political values with. I think there was like a whole thing there. I didn't do a deep dive into it. And then I do believe that he was arrested briefly where, I mean, it was not really like a substantial charge. There were live streaming trying to go into a McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:20:25 The cops were called. It was a whole thing, okay? It was the footage of the body camo of the arrest. Jideon was acting like an influencer would when they get arrested trying to film content. It was, you know, the generic variation of like, do you know who I am? do you know how much money I make? No. Yeah, that kind of situation.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So that was just like a really bad look. But I think other than that, it seems from the very light research that I've done, Jidion is someone that everyone thinks is like a relatively like hopefully net positive in the world. Like he is putting people behind bars. He doesn't go as far as some other predator hunters. And he just has like a very unique way of doing it. Like I think if you've seen any viral clips of him, There's cops arresting predators, pedophiles, and he's just like selfie recording himself.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And he's just like, hey guys. So this one's going to jail. Am I right? Like very that vibe. And it's just kind of jarring to see the juxtaposition of like his very casualness along with the circumstances. But also like it's hard to hate on a guy who helps put people behind bars. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Anyway, he decides that he's going to, I believe the ex-girlfriend, I believe Mason Hull's ex-girlfriend live. reaches out to him and she's explaining like I was dating this guy for eight months. His name is Mason Hole and he is a looks maxer. He does have a TikTok following of like a couple hundred thousand followers that's growing now now that he's been arrested, which is crazy. But he's nowhere near clavicular. He's like a small, small looks maxer, probably like 200,000 on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And she's like, I was going through his phone and I found CSAM. I thought he was cheating on me. I found CSAM. I went to the police. They're going to investigate it. and I've given them, like she recorded it on her phone. So she's like scrolling through the teleguer messages, gave that all to the police immediately after leaving,
Starting point is 00:22:20 which like huge kudos to her because there was no like, I'm going to confront him. And like not that some people were worried because sometimes like, like Galane Maxwell, you know, you've got people who stay for whatever, fame, whatever. Anyway, but they were like, kudos to her. She got the evidence left straight to the police, didn't come online. She's not trying to go viral with it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 she did exactly what you're supposed to do. Police are investigating and it starts getting leaked here and there that something's going on with Mason Hole. And Jideon is like, okay, I want to cover this case, but he also knows if he starts reaching out, because I think at this point the ex-girlfriend hadn't reached out to him, if he starts asking around how to get in contact with Mason Hole's ex-girlfriend, Mason-Hull, hello, is going to know what's happening. So he decides he's going to play an Uno Reverse.
Starting point is 00:23:11 That's how he describes it. He's going to go on the Discord and debunk the Hulu accusations. So there were whispers that something's going on with Hulow. Like, you know, weird charges, like something's going on. And he, Jideon goes online and he's like, no, it's not true. They're all fake. Okay. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Oh, he's trying to play Huloh. Huloh. Yes. So it's a whole ordeal. I mean, all of the videos are on Jideon's YouTube channel. There's a handful of them. There's interviews after the fact. There's just a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So please go watch all of those. in its entirety so that you can get a really good idea of what's going on. But they decide that they're going to confront Hulow. Okay. So Jidion. And then you have this guy, Alex, from Predator Poachers. I don't really know much about him. But then you have Liv, who is the ex-girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So those three are going to show up to Hulow's apartment and confront him. Wait, I'm so sorry. Where did we go from? So he was defending Hulow. Only because he knew that he wanted to do this video. Why did he do that? Is he waiting? So the girlfriend reached out to him?
Starting point is 00:24:14 It seems like it. Oh, so then why is he defending Hulu again? Because they're going to show up to Hulow's house. And if he didn't defend, then I think that he wouldn't let them in and talk to them. Like, it was like a whole. Is that what it is? Yeah. I think that's why.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I mean, he can probably explain it better. You know, it's not really the strongest aspect of this case in terms of the actual case itself, the criminal charges. The only reason, okay, honestly the only reason you need to know about this Discord chat, is because some people are upset with Jideon for even posting that on Discord in the first place, even though it was part of a grander scheme. And then second of all, at one point in the video, you're going to see Jidion almost comically pull out an Uno reverse card on Hulow's face. So that's really the only reason you need to even have this context.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So when he first meet Hulow, Hulow thought that Jadion is on his side. Yes, but like, okay, see, it's difficult because Jadion is someone who catches predators. So if you don't know anything about Jideon, other than that, and Jidion shows up to your front door, you're not going to let him in. Right. Especially if you're a predator. Mm-hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So then with that discord message, it seems like maybe Hula was more open to letting him in. Okay, okay. Okay. So does Hula know that they're coming? No. Oh, it's a surprise. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So they get to Florida. They are in the backseat. That's like how the video opens and you just see Alex from predator poachers. I know nothing about that man. Liv, Hulow's ex-girlfriend, Jidion on the other side. They're all, like, crammed into the backseat. And Liv says that after she left Hulow's place, she went straight to the police.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And she did confront him on the phone after. She says he was just sobbing, calling me, absolutely sobbing, telling me he wants to talk to me, and he's so sorry, and he'll change. I'll go to therapy, and he's, you know, doing all of this, and now he has demons inside of him, just all that type of bullshit. So they show up to his apartment door,
Starting point is 00:26:07 and they knock on the door, they're filming with their iPhone, And Hulow opens up shirtless and his hair is a mess. He looks like he just woke up. And Alex from Predator Poachers tells him like, I don't want any neighbors to overhear anything. And then call anybody and just have a shit show. Is it cool if we go inside and talk about it over hushed voices? None of us have any weapons or anything crazy like that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Is it cool if we come in? So they're just like trying to convince Hulow to let them in. So at this point, live the ex-girlfriend is like waiting in the car. Oh. You know? So it's just Gideon and Alex and their cameraman. I don't even know if they're cameraman. man was there. Okay. So it's just like basically Alex and Jidion. Jidion says, you know, when we went over to
Starting point is 00:26:45 his house, we knock, he opens the door. He sees me in Alex and I shit you not. I saw the life leave his face. So they start, you know, try to convince him to get in. And most of it is like, you don't want the neighbors to over here. So Mason Hulow, hello, let them in. And Alex is saying things like before anything, like, you know, is any of that shit on telegram? Is it stuff you made yourself or did some Dipshit just send that crap to you. So a lot of it is like them trying to play his side like an investigator, which is something that they do in most of their videos. I think objectively the way that they are able to communicate with people is really cool
Starting point is 00:27:23 and is not cool. Cool is not the right word. It is effective and is something that I guess people could learn from. However, I will say a lot of these videos, a lot of the content is not admissible in court. So just keep that in mind, right? Civilians cannot go around playing detective and get confessions out of people. It's just not going to fly like that in most courtrooms.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And he's just like, well, I didn't make anything myself. So he says that he, you know, they're asking him all the questions of, did you know how old these kids were, like these victims in the videos? And he just says he doesn't know, but he just felt really guilty about it. And this is where Jidion comes in. And Jidion is someone that, after my very light research, on him, he has this phenomenal ability to say the most unhinged things with an complete and absolute straight face. And he just asks and clarifies, he's like, you felt guilty after you came? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 after I just watched the videos and stuff, I felt guilty and I just couldn't, I don't know, I just had to delete everything. And Mason Hulow starts giving them lots of different excuses. He said, I wasn't trying to go for younger, younger, younger. I was honestly just trying to go for a little younger than I am. He says, you know, because he's still like 18, he just wanted to see in the 16 to 18 range specifically, which is already a crime is bad, right? But that's his excuse. However, that's not the truth because Liv already told Jidion, the girls were like three, six, seven, eight. Not that it would be okay if they were 16, 17, but, or even 18 and forced into this, right? but were there, was it just girls or boys or both?
Starting point is 00:29:07 He responds both, mostly probably women. That's crazy. I would hardly even call 18-year-old girls women, let alone little children that are nowhere near the label of women. Side note, the videos in possession are very bad, according to the police file. In one file it reads, the victim is between the ages of 8 and 10. She is being restrained by a device, so she can't fight back. She's like tied up. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:32 While another victim is even. younger, six to eight years old, and in short, according to the police report, she is being essayed and she's crying. Then in one of the longer videos, there is an eight to ten year old little child who is also screaming and crying during the duration of the video. And that's just what's listed in this specific police file. It does state that in his possession, he had more than ten images and videos. These are just three that we know of. In Jidion's video, he's asked, you know, if it appeared to him like the children, the victims were in pain. And Hulow responds. I mean, it seemed like they were probably just numb or drugged up. It seemed like they weren't really saying anything.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Also, Hulu, the entire time, his demeanor is just like, like this. And his eyes are just like soullessly staring into the camera. Wait, what? How is he out? He's not arrested after the girlfriend's report? No, so they had to go through and I guess figure it out. Is he still out? No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. I think Jideon was on it quick, though. So it's not like there was a week in between. I think it was like the next day after the girlfriend reported to the police that Jidion was in Florida.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Wow. Okay. Jidion states that live, the ex-girlfriend had told him that as she was going through his phone, she also discovered that he was looking up videos of animals being harmed, which raised a lot of alarms in her brain because they had just gotten a kitten together. Now, Hulu later says that that's not true at all, and that she's like half making up stuff just to make him look bad, but like I don't really trust Hulu at all.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Obviously, that's not even the most alarming part. The most alarming part aside from the purchasing and the alleged purchasing and possessing of C-SAM is the fact that he has a little sister around 10 years old, which according to the police report, a lot of the victims depicted were in that age range. He also has a little sister that's an infant and they ask him. So Gideon and Alex are asking him. confronting him, were there any thumbnails in there to where the body shape of that girl or boy looked the same age as your little sister? He says that's not what I wanted to look at.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Obviously, you didn't watch it, but you did see there was a body type that looked like your 10-year-old sister. Probably yes. Were they white, Asian, black? He responds, I want to watch more white people. He says that he just like, he didn't really try to look for younger. He just bought a package basically and he was just swiping and self-pleasuring. But specifically, but specifically, he's Specifically, if you note back to the alleged screen recording of the messages, the seller is saying things like CSAM, teens, all groups. So it seems like he's, I mean, he specifically asked for CSAM. So not that it would make it better if he was watching teenagers,
Starting point is 00:32:18 but it's just like he keeps trying to be like, oh, I didn't want younger. It just happened to be in there and I was just swiping. And there's like this really weird part. I get what they're trying to do. but they're like, so your hand was down there the whole time? And they're like, wasn't moving up and down. Like, they're trying to get him to admit that he was getting, you know, gratification out of watching.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But he said that he was just watching normal shit and his body and mind just got curious and craved more. He says, quote, I feel extremely guilty after and I still do to this day. So Jideon leaves. And this is pretty much like a, I wouldn't say a confession in the legal sense, but as close to admitting to the crimes as you can get on video, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like it's pretty damn near there. And after he leaves, Hulow's response is doing things like posting a selfie of him at the gym with looks, maxing music and he writes on there, no stress. There's always two sides to a story. Coincidence that she's overly pushing, trying to get this out on social media after us separating.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Easiest way to spread misled information is online and therefore I will release with a video on my behalf. With time, the truth will reveal itself. Stay tuned. Another one reads, making a meme joke about a matter like that doesn't seem serious. She says it destroyed her career. Why is she having a great time now that it's out? Think about framing someone online that there's only so many options. They are smart. I don't know. The peptides have infiltrated his gray matter and they're wreaking havoc because I don't know what this means. He also posts screenshots between his ex-girlfriend and someone else that in my opinion, I don't know how legitimate these messages are. They just seem super fake. It shows his ex-girlfriend allegedly messes. someone, hi, do you have the messages I sent? They respond, yeah. She responds, good. We are going to
Starting point is 00:34:05 set him up. Everyone is going to think he is a PDF. Live was like, those messages are fake. No one believes those, right? Because that's exactly how someone talks when they're going undercover to take down a small public figure, right? That's exact. Furthermore, Hulow's ex-girlfriend states that they didn't even have enough money to buy food. And he was, and this is not her complaining like, oh, he wasted our money. her saying like that's the level of depravity like yeah yeah yeah she's like he's using whatever money they did have to purchase CSAM and that's why he's saying things like CP $25 max which has become a meme so if you go into this case you're going to see a lot of people saying $25 max 25 max which even Hulu decides that he's going to jump in on the meme because he posted a looks maxing video and by
Starting point is 00:35:05 looks maxing video I mean clenching your chin post you posing really uncomfortably in a way that makes you look like some sort of anime action figure, but incredibly unnatural sucking in your cheeks. And then you're just doing like selfie videos, thirst trap videos. He posts one of those with five times five, like 5x5, which is 25. Does he just think this is a hoot in a holler? Like he says he wasn't meming just to meme it. He did it because, quote, oh, that's just everyone's saying it.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And it's crazy because during all of this, you have people defending him. You have fans defending him. You also have fellow moggers, besties, Chad moggers with oatmeal for brains. Brain is smooth as his skin. He posts a selfie of the two of them in the car. Hulow looks unnatural just posing and he writes in the caption. As a former defense attorney and someone who has faced allegations before, I know the importance of waiting to hear both sides.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Stop judging as if you know someone's life and let the facts come to light. They were also organizing that. he was going to do some sort of big interview with another looks maxer, but I don't think that. If it happened, it's probably not going to air. Jideon at one point starts going through Hulow's phone during this video that he filmed. And he points out like, I don't know what algorithm it was or one of the social medias, but he's like, why did you like this picture of this really young looking girl? To which Hulow transparently says, so I'd get more posts like that to see more.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And he's like, oh, that makes sense. You built this brick by brick. No pun intended. So Gideon is saying, like, you built your algorithm, brick by brick. He says that he understands his girlfriend was traumatized, finding, because she clicked some of the links and saw the CCM. But he says, I feel like she really is trying to ruin my life. I feel like, if anything, I need to go serve what I did wrong
Starting point is 00:36:54 and then maybe go to like a facility treatment center. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And throughout this entire video, like, they kind of framed it as we're just filming so you can't later say we came in here and beat you up. It's for safety. And then later at the end, he's like, are you guys going to post this? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And they tell him no. And then he's like, then what are the mics for? And he's like, I just don't want, you know, anything to go online. I just don't want to see my face on the internet right now. And they're like, that's totally understandable. He contemplates deleting his social media saying, I truly just want to delete my account after confessing. I don't even like watching TikTok because people are making fun of me left and right. There's no point in even having it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Jideon, you know, after going on a monologue about how Huloh needs to confess to the internet. When he sees Hulu checking out of the conversation, he hits him with a, you ever do swimming? You have like a swimmer's body? And then he's like, oh. And Jideon's like, no homo. Thank you. It's just the shoulder up. It's the up shoulders.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And he's like, it's kind of like you have a Michael Phelps build. Yeah. And then somehow Jidian convinces him to do like a selfie style video. So Jidion is recording his face. And it looks like he's like, it's like a fan meet. Okay. Jidion is the fan. Not saying he is a fan, but like this recording style.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Okay. And then he's like, Mason, no more child porn, right? And Mason is nodding and looking away. Last time. Mm-hmm. And he's looking away, mewing, running his hand through his hair. And then Jideon literally pulls out an Uno reverse card. Because remember, so a lot of people were actually mad at Jidion when it was happening
Starting point is 00:38:25 that he had discredited the allegations against Hulow on his discord. Okay, okay. So a lot of people are like, I thought you're four catching predators, not protecting predators, right? So he was like, I did it for the long game. like uno reverse. He handed a car to him? He just kind of waved it in his face. I don't know if Mason took it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 What's Mason's reaction? He's like got no reaction this whole time. He's just like soulless eyes. I mean, I guess what could you do at this point? Mason Hull was eventually arrested May 6, 2026. He is now facing 15 counts of possession of CSAM. His occupation in the arresting documents read TikTok influencer, which he was released on bond.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That bond was revoked because he kept going online. In fact, he went on a Discord with a played pretend court. So it was like a Discord server with a bunch of people. And one of them was like, I'm going to be the judge. And then the other person was like, I'll be the prosecutor. I'll be the defense attorney. And Mason. On this case?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yes. And Mason was in the chat. Like he just snuck in or he knew? No, he knew. Oh. And they're like all there. It's like a video, like a Zoom meeting on Discord. Oh, they're having a fake little trial.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah. Mason was a part of it. Yeah. And they're like, Your Honor, my client, and they're just like doing dumb shit. And he's there. I'm so confused. Yeah. So the bond was you cannot be on social media. You cannot be on the internet unless it's to speak to your attorney. So they revoke his bond. Now he's back in jail. He's still posting. Yeah. In jail? Someone is posting on the account. On his social media? Posting what? His, like, the vault, they call it the vault of just fucking weird thirst traps. They're posting thirst trap right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. Who could possibly be posting right now? His manager, his, who knows? Yeah. Hmm. And some people are commenting and they're supporting him in his comments.
Starting point is 00:40:27 One comment says, can't we just forgive him and stop being jealous? Another says, I'm not going to lie. I don't think he's a bad dude. Another comments, one minor imperfection you have. Another writes, Hulow is pred-maxing. One states that for Hulow to get out of his charges, he has to, quote,
Starting point is 00:40:43 Hulow got an IQ max, bro. Another says, no more C.P. Maxing. But there are genuine defenders who are saying things like, what he was involved with is somewhat disturbing and wrong. But at the same time, I do not believe he is evil or a genuine danger to society in the way people online are making him out to be. From what has been said about his behavior
Starting point is 00:41:01 and interest from a young age, it seems like he is a mentally ill person whose mind became corrupted over time through exposure and disturbing content and unhealthy internet spaces. I also feel like Jideon should have focused more on exposing the distributors and people behind the material
Starting point is 00:41:13 instead of mainly turning Hulu into a viral target online. What? What? One person comments, being mocked by a pedophile is so brutal. How do any of us even recover from this? Another is because he's facing 25 years.
Starting point is 00:41:29 One comment writes, one year for each dollar he paid for CCM is crazy work. One person comments, looks max are in PDF. Prisoners are going to be opening him up like a kid on Christmas. To which one person comments back, I don't like how that was worded. Another person comments, his cellmates are going to appreciate all the looks maxing he's done. Another person comments, people defending this because he's attractive proves how Cook's social media is. If this was some random ugly dude, nobody would hesitate to call him a monster. Protect kids first, not influencers. Now, I will say this about Jidion. I know lots of people have opinions about
Starting point is 00:42:02 just like the whole niche of content that's created with predator catchers and like really that could be said about any niche of content online. I do think I don't really know much of his lore but I think without his video, Hulu might have a lot more defenders. Because these are the exact group of people who are inclined to say things like the ex-girlfriend's line because she's jealous. Like that, I think that would have been the rhetoric by a lot of people. I don't know if it would have been all people, hopefully not. But I think him able to get the video of him confessing to it, at least for the public to see, even if it becomes inadmissible in court,
Starting point is 00:42:41 I do think it helped a lot with this case. So what are your thoughts on all of this? Let me know in the comments and stay safe. I will see you in the next one. Bye.

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