Rotten Mango - Woman Sneaks Into Court Screams “Diddy, They’re Coming After You!” & Tells Officers To Pull Out Guns

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

“Diddy, they’re laughing at you! This is not a game!” The lady is screaming in the back of the courtroom. Everyone whips their heads around to stare - and there she is. Staring off 3 court offi...cers and threatening them to take out their gun.  “Diddy is walking perfection. Take out your guns!” The woman has been banned from the courthouse, wore a scarf around her head (not for religious reasons), and snuck into the very courtroom where Diddy is now staring straight at her. Mouth agape.  This was the very important message that she had to deliver -  “They’re laughing at you.” She is dragged out of the courtroom but that is not the last we will hear from her. She has been there almost every single day during the USA v. Sean Combs case and there have been rumors circulating that she is a paid actor.  But why?     Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think the digital footprint associated with the Sean Combs case is massive, but also while it's ongoing, there's new little tidbits, little nuggets that are being added to this massive collection of data on a daily basis. The Combs sons walk into the courtroom, and side note, I just thought this was kind of goofy, but Christian King Combs had Instagram storied and it's him in the van with his brothers listening to music while they're headed to court. And in the- which is already kind of a crazy thing, but that's okay. In the corner of this Instagram story, however, are the words. One word, early and a bird emoji. Early bird, okay? I don't know if he's trying to
Starting point is 00:00:44 say early bird gets the worm. I don't know what he's early for because he was very late to court. They're pretty late to court almost every single day. So I don't know what the early bird is. Wait, so they show up like in the middle? Yeah, sometimes the witness is already testifying and they'll show up. Oh. So I'm not entirely sure what the bird was for but nevertheless nobody in the courtroom is thinking about that because there have just been too many crazy things. This feels like the least of everybody's worries. Another morning more recently, another disturbance takes place inside the courtroom and I feel like I
Starting point is 00:01:19 was telling you guys a lot of strange things have been happening in the courthouse and this this is just another one of them Okay So every single day Diddy has four US marshals that sit around him watching his every single move before he even gets into the courtroom The marshal that we've nicknamed messy because he is truly like the spitting image of messy the soccer player He goes in and he sweeps his hand all through Diddy's chair. It's like one of those wooden leather cushioned chairs with armrests, nothing special, but he will lift it up, scope it out under, he'll touch all the legs, he'll push on the cushion, he'll swipe the cushion with his hands on all sides. He's looking for hidden contraband, weapons, anything abnormal, and they never find anything of course, but they've also never really
Starting point is 00:02:06 Put their hands on Diddy until that day So sure the marshals they might give him like a fist bump or two depending on the mood that did he's in sometimes Did he will even hand messy a post-it note and a few nods will be exchanged I think he's probably asking for the bathroom or something Diddy is escorted in on this particular day the judge then comes out and sits on the bench Everybody instinctively stands judge Arun father Arun humble. He says please be seated I don't think he likes when people stand for him Oh, I think it's a thing that you have to do and I think he's accepted it's part of the process
Starting point is 00:02:41 But he preferably doesn't like it like it with his energy Okay, he's always like, please be seated unless you'd like to stand Yeah, I think it's just very formal and he just wants to get straight into business. So he's already into it Let's start with gx10c 114. It's 830. Usually it's about 30 minutes before the jurors are escorted in So the prosecutors and the defense, this is when they argue. This is like when the lawyer Olympics come out and they're arguing their case. They're pleading their case. And the judge is like, I'm sick of every single person in this room.
Starting point is 00:03:12 When all of a sudden, as they're discussing all of this, you just hear screaming. It's not fair, Diddy. They're making fun of you in every courtroom. A woman is standing up and yelling from the last pew of the public section and everyone in the courtroom, the prosecutors, the defense, all the clerks in the bullpen, they rubberneck. They're like 180 degrees. They whip their neck around to the back of the gallery where the yelling is coming from. Everyone except Diddy's marshals. They're on their feet, shot up out of their seats, they're putting their bodies between Diddy, who's also turned around in his chair staring at this woman, and they're just trying to block him. I don't think they're necessarily protecting him because Messi does have his hand on Diddy's shoulder,
Starting point is 00:03:55 as in like, don't try to get up, don't try to do anything. Like no swift movements. At this point there are now three courtroom officers in uniform with badges, with bulletproof vests All of them are retired NYPD. So the court officers they wear like the bulletproof vests and everything Yes, is officer Riz. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So the marshals on the contrary, they're always in suits. Oh They're in like fitted suits and they're pretty pretty in shape Okay, not that the court officers are, but like they have different attire. And I think the vests are a lot more intense for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:31 They're next to this woman and when she first stood up and started yelling, I think officer his main thing is everybody's here for a reason and he tries to keep it as peaceful as possible. So I think that they could have been more forceful with her, but they're trying to deescalate the situation with the least amount of resistance that is already being caused. But this woman has decided, no, maybe they're being too soft
Starting point is 00:04:56 because that's what she's thinking, not me. But she has now upgraded to profanity. She has planted her feet in the middle aisle and her body weight is leaning back away from the three officers who are trying to now grab at her because now she's escalating it. They were trying to be polite. They were trying to be like, okay, let's get out of the courtroom. Even a few journalists who were sitting close to her got up and moved because it's starting to feel a little dangerous, like a little, a little stressful, especially
Starting point is 00:05:23 because she starts screaming, take out your gun, take out your gun. Wait, so she went straight from, what did she say beginning? She said they're making fun of you, this is unfair. To Diddy, right? Yeah. And he goes straight to take out your gun? Yeah. The marshal has a hand on Diddy's shoulder just to make sure nothing happens.
Starting point is 00:05:41 She's yelling this at the uniformed officers that are now like, okay, we should probably escalate. Judge Arun, who has never once addressed the gallery. Like, never. Okay, so defense attorney, sometimes they'll walk in, they'll scan over the pews, see who's all here. Sometimes they'll even make small talk, like, they'll open the bathroom door for you, and they're kind. The prosecutors, same thing. Judge Arun, like we don't exist to him at all. Anyone that's not the attorney, the defendants, or the jurors, or the witnesses, we do not exist. I mean, he'll talk to the court staff, he'll talk to the court officers, and the U.S. Marshals, but everybody else, the public, the press, Diddy's friends and family, we don't exist.
Starting point is 00:06:21 There has never even been a look over the pews. There has been nothing. This is the very first time. He looks into the gallery, past everybody, please escort her out of this courtroom now. And his voice is clear. It is firm. There is no panic. There's nothing. He's like actually staring daggers at the gallery. He's like staring at this woman. Like, you guys need to get this woman out of my courtroom. So the officers escort her out and then Judge Arun instantly goes back to business. That's it.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And she walked out. She walked out, she did a few interviews outside. It seems, you know, I have a whole backstory, okay, but it appears that in the interview, she's saying that it's unfair that they are smearing a black man's legacy and that they're doing this. And she's saying he's perfection, Diddy is perfection.
Starting point is 00:07:10 This is a black man's legacy that people are laughing at. It appears that she was perhaps in the overflow rooms for the whole trial. This is the first time we've seen her in the actual courtroom, but I have seen her since like the first day. Now, I'm sure in the overflow rooms, they're making more comments.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Cause the overflow rooms, it's a TV, it's a screen, there's no judge, they have court officers in there, but it's not disruptive. If you talk in there, the jurors don't hear it. It's not as intense in terms of court rules. So I have heard from other members of the press, like sometimes they prefer the overflow rooms because if they can't hear something,
Starting point is 00:07:48 they can literally, hey, did you get what they just said? Whereas in the main courtroom, you cannot speak. So I've heard some of that. So maybe she's heard people giggling in the overflow rooms. Maybe they have been making comments about the defendant. I'm not entirely sure, but she's saying that they're making fun of you. They're smearing a black man's legacy.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Now these have now gone viral on TikTok, these little interviews, and people are commenting it's not about race. Some people are saying, oh, okay, so he's perfection, but like, what about SA? What about domestic violence? And what's so interesting is, side note, there is a sketch about her. The sketch artist, like instantly as this is a sketch about her. The sketch artists, like, instantly as this is happening, you just hear like frantic, you know how I tell you when they get really excited, it's like shhh, you just hear the noise of the sketch? Yeah, they sketched her.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Now, I will say, when she was in the main courtroom, she had a scarf around her head, not for religious reasons, but because she's actually not allowed in the courtroom, apparently, she was trying to conceal her identity and made it to the 26th floor into the courtroom. and now Diddy was all the way leaned to the side, his family has not arrived yet, and he just seemed intrigued by this woman. and so were we, because we saw this woman on the very first day. like this is during jury selection. And I recall this. We see her outside of the courthouse
Starting point is 00:09:08 as we're lining up to go into jury selection days to get into the courthouse. And she is wearing a uniform. It's an MTA uniform for the transit system in New York. Now another reporter starts talking to her and asking her questions about like, what are you doing here? Because you're not part of the press.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So like, what made you want to spend your day in the courthouse listening to this specific case and its jury selection? Like we're not even in opening statements. Like what's the reason? Like you must have a very strong reason. Do you know anyone that's involved in the case? And she was explaining that she also had
Starting point is 00:09:40 very tough life experiences and she can relate to some of the people in this case. And she's hinting at the fact that she has maybe perhaps lived through domestic violence and so I actually thought it was this moment of oh wow this is a very interesting moment where people are coming out not even because they know the people are the victims involved or the witnesses involved they support people who have gone through similar things. Because yes, he's innocent until proven guilty. However, the domestic violence, it's on video.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's pretty hard to say anything, right? I thought she was here to support the victims and take a stance against domestic violence. And then I didn't see her around. I mean, I kind of saw her here and there, but like the feeling was the very first day I heard her share her story, like it was that feeling consistently.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And then as the weeks go by, recently a few days ago, she was causing a bit of a ruckus outside on the line. So when we got separated into public and press, all I heard was something about YouTubers and Gene Deal. Because there's a lot of content creators in the public side And so she's mainly interacting with them and I think she was like getting into a fight with a content creator I'm not entirely sure I tried to stay out of it I literally went oh, and then I looked away because I'm like, okay, I need to stay in my own lane
Starting point is 00:10:57 You said there's always something there's always a fight. There's always a fight and it's multiple fights going on at the same time Yeah I will say like to the people in the public line that are standing in that line just so that they can get the good coverage so that they can get in the courtroom without any problems I have so much respect for them because that public line I saw a comment that was like it's like the fortnight lobby yeah it feels like that I mean the main line feels like that but then once they split it up into public and press it's like usually a lot of
Starting point is 00:11:28 commotion in the public line and so people who are going through the public line just to be able to sit in on this trial I don't know how they're doing it. It's so intense. There's always a fight. I don't know what happened because the first few times I've seen her she seemed so pleasant and then all of a sudden it's just very different. I'm just very confused and so all the press and the public they want to know does Diddy know her because there have been rumors swirling around that perhaps Diddy is I mean these are some darker rumors that perhaps Diddy is trying to buy witnesses by jurors maybe even by Diddy supporters
Starting point is 00:12:03 to infiltrate not only the public, but also maybe the press. So there's been all these rumors swirling around. I don't know what he would get out of this incident though. Yeah, so you don't know if Diddy was involved. If I had to take like my most cynical, because I mean, I do enjoy being conspiratorial at times, but like if I had to be the most reasonable, I don't think that he played any role in this.
Starting point is 00:12:25 But I do think this trial is bringing out a lot of interesting people. And I'm just so confused. The only thing that confuses me and a few other members of the press is her attitude shift throughout the weeks is so drastic. We're just confused by it. what are your thoughts? We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support Achievement Centers for Children, their non-profit organization helping children and adults with disabilities. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing
Starting point is 00:13:13 team of dedicated researchers and translators, and to even bring our team out to New York City for months to be able to do this. So we would really like to thank you guys for all of that support. As always, full show notes are available at rottenmangalepodcast.com a few disclaimers before we get started, there are mentions of physical assault as well as essay. many of the quotes and statements included have been shortened and condensed for brevity. to cover ourselves legally, you guys know the drill. sean combs is presumed innocent until proven guilty,
Starting point is 00:13:42 and that has yet to occur at the time of this episode's release. So the burden of proof lies within the government. Any descriptions or observations regarding Mr. Combs' legal team, the court, and or the public during the trial were personally noted by myself or my other two researchers who are present in the main courtroom. They should not be used as definitive source to determine guilt or innocence. So with that being said, let's get started. I think Michael B. Jordan just once one day without reading about him being mentioned
Starting point is 00:14:10 in Sean Combs' criminal trial, I think that would literally make Michael B. Jordan's entire week. Cassie's best friend and former stylist, he takes to the stand and he is asked about Michael B. Jordan by Diddy's attorney Xavier Donaldson. Because remember, while Cassie was in South Africa shooting a movie, she starts talking to Michael B. Jordan by Diddy's attorney Xavier Donaldson. Because remember, while Cassie was in South Africa shooting a movie, she starts talking to Michael B. Jordan, and because of that,
Starting point is 00:14:30 his name has come up so many times during the entirety of this trial, and it's still ongoing. Donaldson asks Cassie's best friend, Cassie was in South Africa, right? Correct. And she was doing... What was she doing in South Africa? Shooting a movie? And she was shooting this movie as she was still signed to Bad Boy, correct? Correct.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And what was the movie? Honey? And so as an artist signed with Bad Boy, she was not only doing music, but she was also getting movie deals, correct? She was able to do that sometimes and it just seems like a very roundabout conversation. So I mean I guess right I'm asking yes or no. Was she able to do movies while she was an artist signed with bad boy? Sometimes yes. In 2015 this is one of those times that she was allowed to do a movie
Starting point is 00:15:22 correct? Correct. And in order for her to be allowed to do that movie, Mr. Combs as the owner of bad boy had to sign off on that, correct? Correct. So to button that, Mr. Combs signed off on a contract to allow Cassie to do a movie, correct? Correct. Mr. Donaldson? The witness is saying, Mr. Donaldson, asking a question. Yes sir. Donaldson is now responding. Yes sir. Can you just drive it home? Because yes, I did hook her up with Michael B. Jordan. I know where this is going. But no no no no no. And it feels like the two of them just start bickering in front of- Wait who said no no no no no? The witness. Oh oh oh. He's like no no no no no and it feels like the two of them just start bickering in front of the witness
Starting point is 00:16:07 he's like no no no no no while the entire courtroom is watching and wondering what the hell is happening right now so mr nash you hooked her up with michael b jordan right indeed he's fine she's fine i mean why not some of the jurors start smirking others are turning to each other and they're mouthing Like they're literally doing that with their mouth Even Brian Steele is sitting there giggling with this goofy Boy Scout grin as they say that's what that's how they describe his smile The only person not amused in the entirety of this is Sean Combs because he is not having a good day First of all Cassie's best friend is very likable on the stand. He's won the jurors over. Everybody's giggling non-stop in the
Starting point is 00:16:49 courtroom during his testimony. He is just laying it down. He's not getting bullied by the defense. This is Deontay, right? Yeah, Deontay Nash. And on top of that, Sean Combs's move for a mistrial was just denied prior to all of this. Alexandra Shapiro is a very interesting attorney on Sean Combs' defense team. She was a clerk for Justice Ginsburg, similar to Judge Arun, but not at the same time, like I've mentioned. I don't think their paths have ever crossed.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She was a prosecutor for the US Attorney's Office in SDNY, the same district that they're in right now, fighting for Sean Combs. She's worked in the criminal division for five years. Then she went on to join an international law firm to work on white-collar crime. She low-key loves defending an alleged insider traitor. And I say that with fear coursing through my bones because these are very serious people who would probably eat me for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So the reason that she's on Sean Combs' team though is very interesting. She's actually known for her work in appeals.
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's her main focus. She's even said in an interview, I usually get retained after somebody else lost the trial, but I do sometimes get involved at the trial level as well. She basically states it is critical if a client has the resources, aka just money, if they have the money to have someone with appellate experience during the trial. She states quote, one of the most frustrating things for me as an appellate lawyer is to
Starting point is 00:18:15 find that something important wasn't preserved during the trial. It's totally understandable because trial lawyers are in the heat of the battle and focused on contesting the government's account of the facts. Which means her being added to this defense team, being present in the heat of the battle and focused on contesting the government's account of the facts. Which means her being added to this defense team being present during the entirety of the trial, she's probably there just to focus on procedural compliance and the application of the law as a whole. I don't even think she's there for the fact-finding of the actual case or jury persuasion like the other trial attorneys. I mean that might change as the trial ramps up, but I highly doubt it. It seems like she is here to make sure that the trial is running to the letter of the law.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And if it's not, and if it's not running to the letter of the law in a way that benefits their client, then they need to swiftly take care of it. Of course, all in favor for Sean Combs. She's not the judge. It's not like she's there just for the pure idea of making sure each trial is just and fair, legally speaking. She's there to make sure absolutely everything is in legal compliance so that if there is a verdict that is perhaps unfavorable, it is likely that she will start on the appeal. If not already.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Because who knows? So usually attorneys that focus on appeals, they really only enter the conversation after the verdict. But when you have that much money, hundreds of millions of dollars at your disposal, I mean, why not get her started right now? Basically, Alexandra Shapiro is there to consider all of these things, which is likely why we don't see her doing cross-examinations. Her husband did come in and do a cross-examination. He was recently retained. Yes, and he recently
Starting point is 00:19:46 did a cross examination of Dr. Hughes, which is, she's a forensic psychologist, and I will say nothing that notable came out of the actual testimony itself. The defense kept trying to get the whole testimony thrown out. The judge did not go for that. However, the cross examination by Alexander Shapiro's husband was very intense. He was kind of aggressive. Just, well, kind of, it's nice. He was very aggressive. Very aggressive. And it wasn't well perceived. It was, yeah, it was not well perceived. It's like over aggressive for what? Yeah, it's kind kind of like I think it's similar to when Tenny Garagos does a lot of the crosses on law enforcement. I think we get why there's aggression and we get why the
Starting point is 00:20:33 defense, not the defendant, the defense team might be frustrated because as attorneys they have to protect their clients and they're thinking this is overkill, you did too much on this, This is not maybe to the way that we've seen it before I can get that there's passion that can come off as aggressive But to someone sitting in the courtroom it just feels like why are we mad at people for just doing their jobs? Like they don't even know your client like that. It's not personal. Why are you getting so angry? Yeah, it just feels like are you are we just angry at the world right now? It's maybe not the best thing to show the jurors, is my opinion. Now, Alexandra Shapiro has not done a cross and she always looks incredibly stressed.
Starting point is 00:21:17 She looks more overworked than anybody else on that team. Alexandra Shapiro, if I have to guess, and I thought about this all the time because I have had a few bathroom run-ins with her where we're just like standing next to each other washing our hands in the sink and it's very uncomfortable but I mean I'm sure she's obviously a very very talented person and very scary in a good way like she knows what she's doing but she seems incredibly stressed all the time. She's not a small talker. And so the feeling that we get is that she seems like she's specialized in appeals. She has great attention to detail. Most attorneys that specialize in
Starting point is 00:21:55 appeals do. I feel like she's the type that likes everything perfect. She likes her t's crossed, her i's dotted, and now there's so many hands in the pie she just seems very wound up. I'm just giving, I'm setting the scene because you kind of have a boys club with Brian Steele, Xavier Donaldson, Diddy and sometimes filibuster Mark Agnifilo will join the boys club and then the other attorneys just do their own thing and she just sits at that same table like can we just please get it together? Like that's's her vibe like can you guys not be giggle gaggling right now when there is very serious problems that we have to address that's her energy see I do find this very interesting when you throw
Starting point is 00:22:35 like seven eight top lawyers together on a case that dynamic must be crazy yeah so Mark Mark and Teni are the leads. They seem the most stressed out because they're overseeing probably all the other attorneys. Okay. Teni is probably a little more stressed perhaps from her pregnancy and also perhaps because she's the one handling most of the evidence it seems. So lots of back end stuff. Mark seems more like front end. I have no clue. I don't know if this is true. Alexandra Shapiro, she seems very stressed. Brian Steele, Xavier Donaldson, Nicole Westmoreland, and Anna Estaveo, they do
Starting point is 00:23:16 this thing where if they are doing a cross-examination that day, it's like the most stressful I've ever seen them. And then the next day when they're not doing any cross-examinations, they're giggle giggling. Brian Steele's falling asleep. Brian Steele will watch another defense attorney on his team make a mistake and he'll just be like, why'd you do that? I wouldn't have done that if I were you. Because I guess when you're the leads, you're in charge.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Whereas they have their very specific roles and I'm sure they work really hard at their very specific roles. But it's very interesting. Alexandra Shapiro perhaps she's overseeing the whole thing she seems very stressed now regardless she stands up reaches for the microphone the jurors are out of the room when was this this was like a midday midday jurors are out of the room she's in front of the gallery like the gallery we're all sitting there, and she states, your honor respectfully, we are going to move for a mistrial at this time based on the prosecutorial misconduct that went into this. A mistrial, which means forget everything that just
Starting point is 00:24:18 happened and let's do it all over again from the beginning with new jurors, new jury selection, new everything. And this is like weeks into it, right? Yeah, this is weeks in and probably millions of taxpayer dollars in, which is great for the defense because that means that they, I mean, to a degree, the defense knew what they were getting into before the trial. Like they kind of have an idea based off the charges, based off of things in discovery, like where the prosecutors are gonna lead it. But now they have a really good idea of like the valuable evidence the prosecutors have, the key points, the key witnesses that they're bringing in. But
Starting point is 00:24:56 now they can spend a lot of time to exploit all the flaws in any of their evidence and any of their arguments for the retrial. I mean, this is their dream. Like, what in the hell would even cause them to try and move for a mistrial though? You can't just say it because it's not going well for you. Like, you can't just be like, you know what, Judge? I just kind of maybe want to start over. Like, can we do a do-over? Yeah, let me take it from the top again. Like, you can't do that. Something has to happen. And it is because of one of the most unexpected witnesses that takes the stand. Could you provide the court your first and last name and spell your first and last name? Lance Jimenez. L-A-N-C-E-J-I-M-E-N-E-Z. Good morning. And who is your employer?
Starting point is 00:25:41 The City of Los Angeles Fire Department. Lance Samanas is an arson investigator for the LAFD. And he describes his job as, and this is literally what the mistrial is based off of, we're basically detectives for the fire department. We work hand in hand with LAPD to work on the crime of arson, which is intentionally setting felony crimes. He's been doing this for the past 14 years. He's investigated well over 1,000 cases,
Starting point is 00:26:06 probably 1,200 cases, maybe more. So what is an arson investigator from Los Angeles doing all the way in New York City sitting next to Judge Arun in Judge Arun We Trust and might be the testimony that leads to a mistrial in this case? Like it's so random. Kid Cuddy. Investigator Lance was the one that was called out to the scene when Kid Cuddy. Investigator Lance was the one that was called out to the scene when Kid Cuddy's Porsche was set on fire. He was the lead arson investigator, which again, what does this have anything to do with the attorneys asking for a mistrial? I'm gonna give you the exact line of questioning and you see if you can spot the reason why the defense demands a
Starting point is 00:26:40 retrial. Prosecutor Slavik asks investigator Jimenez, did you collect any other fingerprints in this case? There was, the victim had informed me that he had somebody come and print his house from a previous trespass and that person recovered two fingerprints on his glass front door and that person put those on print cards and turned them over to me. So to give you context, remember how Kid Cudi's house was broken into allegedly by Sean Combs and Rube, the security guard, while Capricorn Clark is crying in the car outside? Well, it appears that Kid Cudi might have hired a third party to come out and take fingerprints from his front door just for safety reasons, because honestly, I would too. Well,
Starting point is 00:27:16 Kid Cudi gives those fingerprint cards over to Officer Jimenez because he was like, yeah, that was a month ago that my house was broken into and now my car has been set on fire Here are the prints Yeah, do with that what you will did they find out who the prosecutor asks What did you do after obtaining these print cards? The print cards were sealed in an envelope with a person's signature and then I put them in another envelope I sealed for evidence and turned them into LAPD for print analysis. What do you mean by putting them into evidence? We take all of our evidence we collect and we turn it over, we book everything with LAPD's
Starting point is 00:27:53 evidence unit, and they store and collect all the evidence, and it's properly maintained through LAPD. Did you receive results related to these fingerprint cards? I did not. Now, you said that you entered these fingerprint cards into evidence. Did there come a time when you learned what happened to the fingerprint cards? Yes, recently. What happened to the print cards? The two print cards I had turned in were destroyed. When were they destroyed? They were destroyed August of 2012, so this would be eight months after
Starting point is 00:28:22 the fire. Were you aware that they had been destroyed in August of 2012. So this would be eight months after the fire. Were you aware that they had been destroyed in August of 2012? I was not. Did you authorize the print cards being destroyed? I did not. Who ordered their destruction? Somebody with an LAPD. Is that typically the way that logged evidence is destroyed? Not for evidence that I turn in. I'm the lead investigator so everything goes through me before it's destroyed. Unless it goes through our arson section, it will come through in a request if they want it destroyed or not, or returned back to the owner. And the LAPD employee who authorized the destruction wasn't you, you said, right?
Starting point is 00:28:57 No. Was that person a member of your team? No. Did this strike you as unusual? Mark Agnifilo, Combs' lead counsel, stands up. I'm gonna object to all of this, Judge. The judge is like, there was a question pending. I take it there's an objection to that question. Yes, that's sustained. And the prosecutor says, I'll ask a different question, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Investigator Jimenez, in your 15 years, approximately, as an arson investigator, has evidence been ordered destroyed by someone who is not a member of your team? Mark Agnifilo stands back up. Your Honor, I object, and can we have a sidebar on this? You may. During the sidebar, Mark Agnifilo is stating, it's not just about the question, okay? It's quote, there's a larger issue here. There's an inference of wrongdoing here, which we are hearing for the first time and which is utterly unfounded
Starting point is 00:29:49 They're clearly saying that something happened to cause these fingerprint cards to be destroyed suspiciously Under circumstances that this witness has never seen before and I am asking that this entire line be struck as being prejudicial They're clearly suggesting that mr Combs with his authority did something to cause the destruction of these print cards. There's no further reason for these questions other than that. Prosecutor Slavik argues, this is with respect to his investigation and this material was in the 3500, which are the documents that the government turns over to the defense. Like she's like, you knew about this! It goes to the completion of the
Starting point is 00:30:23 investigation. I think the defense is going to get up on the cross-examination and suggest that there was, it was a dead end investigation. There were no charges and there are reasons why. And this destruction of the print cards is one such reason. Mark is saying they could have left it at that. That's clearly not what they're doing. What they're clearly doing is saying in addition, they could have just said, where are the print cards? They're destroyed. They didn't have to go further and say, have you ever heard of this before? Did you authorize it? That is clearly improper and that's what they're doing. They are putting this in front of the jury that there was wrongdoing in the LAPD and the only reason that would
Starting point is 00:30:59 be relevant since this is not an LAPD internal investigation is that someone in this courtroom had something to do with it and that someone is Mr. Combs. And Mark say that? Yes. Okay, Mark. Okay, you said it. Like the phrasing is crazy. Yes, but he's saying like that's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I know, but still, you said it. Yeah, but like, yeah. Now, the judge disagrees. Hold on. Again, that's not how I would have taken it. I understand, I understood the questions as they were coming in as drawing the sting from the potential cross-examination that would show the destruction of the fingerprint cards as reason to question the entirety of the investigation of the Arson incident.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And I assume that's what Ms. Slavik was doing, was trying to anticipate that you're going to go up and say, what are you talking about? You lost evidence that would show, possibly point to someone else having done this and just mysteriously the print cards vanished before the trial. But the defense counsel doubles down saying, why would they ask the last question though? There's no legitimate reason consistent with their explanation. They did this not for that reason.
Starting point is 00:31:59 They did this to suggest something improper happened. And it's not just an LAPD matter because they wouldn't have asked all the other questions. In 15 years have you ever heard of it? It's suspicious. They're making it suspicious. In other words the defense states the government is making inferences that Sean Combs somehow got rid of the fingerprint evidence because he knows those are his prints. Mark Agnifilo says this has caused prejudice. He says and I think and I have to just say it the way I think I see it. I think what the government has done is outrageous and I haven't used that word all trial
Starting point is 00:32:32 Which I'm like, okay I feel like he's got an outrageous limit that he uses per trial or something because that's such a nod I haven't used that word all trial but I'm using it now and they know what they're doing They know exactly what they were doing. They were suggesting to this jury that someone in this courtroom had something to do with the improper and suspicious destruction of these fingerprint cards, and that's outrageous. And quite frankly, we are having discussions, and I need a few more minutes before we hit ground on what, if any, other remedies we are going to ask for in light of that line of questioning. So before I do that, let me speak with my colleagues for a second and I will, if it's okay with the court, I know we're trying to get the jury back in the box if I could have a few minutes, two minutes, three minutes, just to discuss
Starting point is 00:33:12 with my colleagues. After a group discussion amongst defense counsel, they move for a mistrial. Alexandra Shapiro takes the lead. Your honor, respectfully, we are going to move for a mistrial at this time based on the prosecutorial misconduct that went into this. I think it's clear that first of all, just to take a step back, as the court will recall during jury selection, there were issues raised by some prospective jurors about, you know, the idea that Mr. Combs could buy his way out of this. This type of conspiracy theory is out there, and the type of implication that we believe these questions were designed to create plays right into that. When she said that we're going to move for mistrial. What's the energy in the courtroom?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like everyone is stressed out. I think the only people not stressed out are Diddy's sons. I don't know why. I've never seen them look stressed out like really ever. Maybe once or twice. But they seem chilled. They seem like it's another Tuesday. And I'm like, are we hearing the same thing? The jury are not in the room. The press, everyone's silent. I think it's half of holy shit what's about to happen. But also half of, oh my god, every single witness would have to come back and testify. That's insane. And then another part of it is like, oh, we're also going to come back and do this all over again. Like all of this is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone was just silent. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:34:38 I will say Combs, I mean, I took so many notes on this and we cross-referenced with my researchers because it was a little, it was a little intense. He looks like, you know when you work at a restaurant and there is a customer who is very upset that you got their order wrong. Is it a big deal? No. Did you get their order wrong? You are adamant that you did not. You're like, no, he told me seafood, okay? So I got him seafood. I remember it. But the boss is like, no, you got to go apologize because they're making a big deal about it. And then you go and you stand there and you apologize and they just kind of sit there
Starting point is 00:35:15 like, that's right, apologize to me. You did me so wrong. He's like sitting there with that kind of energy, like very smug. Like I was wronged. There was a time where he glances back to the press piece like, are you hearing this? You're hearing it, right? And it's just like, okay. Yeah, it was a very interesting moment. But Shapiro continues, my point is that it was becoming clearer and clearer that this inference is what the government was doing this for. And the jury
Starting point is 00:35:44 is going to be left with the impression, even if your honor strikes the testimony, including not only those two questions where the objections have been sustained, but strikes the previous questions and answers, and gives an instruction, there is no way to unring this bell, particularly those last two questions. You know, first of all, it's clear from the last two questions that, respectfully, what the government was doing here, there's just no reasonable way to interpret their motivation other than they were trying to plant an idea in these jurors that mr. Combs was responsible for the destruction of these fingerprints and there is no other
Starting point is 00:36:14 reason but the fact that only those two fingerprints were destroyed by someone inside is kind of crazy like have we have to investigate more into that? like who it is? who did this? no. the only potential non-sinister outcome could be a logging error in the LAPD. you know i will say the LAPD as a former resident of los angeles for almost a decade, i will say their bookkeeping is probably not the best so there is that that people could be like well maybe it's that another thing is well the evidence of the fingerprints were not taken by the LAPD so they could have thrown it out as like it's not even taken by us like even if it
Starting point is 00:36:56 matches anything what does this have to do with us you know I see but I guess the point being was right right right maybe. Maybe it's just someone made a mistake, but now you are painting a picture as, Yes. Did he's paying someone in... Yes, but it could also work the other way of like, perhaps he did. Do you have proof of it? If you don't, then you can't ask these questions. Right, right, right. So it could be either one, right?
Starting point is 00:37:21 I don't think anyone in the pews would be surprised either way, I guess. So we respectfully submit that the only proper remedy to cure the outrageous prejudice caused by this is a mistrial. Prosecutor Slavik argues, Your Honor, respectfully a mistrial is absolutely unwarranted here. There was a good faith basis for the questions asked by the government. I've been over those good faith reasons and I simply think that there is no prejudice here, much less incurable prejudice that would require a mistrial. There's a moment of pause and honestly, it was like two seconds but it felt like forever.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And I'm like, oh my gosh. So the judge is about to make the call right now. Yes. Like two seconds he's deciding. Yes, and I mean he was reviewing all the transcripts during the break while the attorneys were conferring, but it was definitely, yeah, it was definitely an interesting moment. Everyone's just holding their breath of like what is about to happen and like the idea of again the witnesses coming and doing it all over again, testifying, getting cross-examined all over again. The judge ponders for a brief
Starting point is 00:38:26 moment because his brain runs on 10 times speed and then he states, the application for a mistrial is denied for the reasons stated by the government. In addition, I'll just offer the following which is, as I said, there were no objections to the questions that were asked up until the last two. As to those questions, the objections were sustained so there was no testimony from the witness pertaining to those questions. Basically saying, if you had a problem with all the questions, why did you only object to the last one and then now you want to cry about it? Well, that's not how he said it at all, but that was the energy that we were receiving.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He further states, the jury has been instructed and will be instructed that they are not to consider questions from attorneys or statements from attorneys as evidence and they are presumed to follow those instructions which we will give again. So there is no, there is no absolutely no testimony from the witness that was prejudicial in any way, shape or form as the court sustained the objections that were raised. So I don't think that there is a problem of the jury being left with an improper inference or a bell that's been rung and can't be unrung. And the government points out, to the extent there was any prejudice, I don't believe that there was any, that could be cured by striking the testimony and giving an appropriate instruction to the jury. So for those reasons, the motion for a mistrial is denied. Which then Alexandra
Starting point is 00:39:39 Shapiro argues that the jurors should be told not to consider any of the questions and answers in this line of questioning because the government's questions were improper, which leads prosecutor, the lead prosecutor, Comey, to stand up. Your Honor, if I may, it would be deeply prejudicial and unfair to tell the jury that the government did something improper. Perhaps Your Honor could instruct instead the jury that they are to disregard both the questions and the answers and that they are irrelevant to this case instead of Basically saying that the government council is asking improper questions Which the judge agrees with and ultimately the jurors are told that
Starting point is 00:40:14 basically that whole line of questioning is irrelevant and in that moment Sean Combs does not look happy that The move for the mistrial was denied. He's almost side-eyeing his attorneys and when the judge is giving the jurors the instructions he's looking straight ahead again as if he has been so wronged and he's like yes jurors like are you listening to this? So interesting. Very interesting. Which side note netizens online have been commenting on this with most people thinking that the move for a mistrial was goofy, others finding it sinister, some finding it reasonable, with one netizen comments, reading, grounds for appeal, the jurors already heard the tainted question.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So they're saying this is already an appeal in the process. Like Alexandra Shapiro is working on the appeal right now. Others joke and argue, the defense really said, you can't ask that question that makes our client look so guilty. Be so for real. Another comment reads, this case is incapable of becoming more bizarre. Others are writing, perhaps more in fear,
Starting point is 00:41:16 the judge better stand strong because we don't want this man walking free. Accountability, please. Others write, no, he's gonna walk and you guys don't be surprised when he does. And here's the thing, I just know that Sean Combs goes back to his cell at the end of every night, and he has a whole list on his wall of every single attorney, and he has little strike marks for them. And this is like, this has been a running conversation between me and my researchers,
Starting point is 00:41:40 because you cannot tell me that this man is not at times spiteful. Sometimes the way he looks at his attorneys is very, I can't think of any other way to interpret it other than hello, are you dumb? Are you dumb right now? Like that's, what am I paying you for? If you don't stand up and object right now, like those are the looks. Like you just can't convince us otherwise. And the next person to testify is Deontay Nash and the defense is gonna have a really really hard time
Starting point is 00:42:10 trying to discredit Cassie Ventura's best friend. So let me set the scene first. Prior to the mistrial ordeal happening, right before Deontay Nash gets on the stand, is the mistrial. The, or the move for the mistrial that gets denied. The morning did start off rather normal. That morning felt particularly very calm. Even Sean Combs seems like he's in a very calm mood. He sits down at the defense table, but only after giving his supporters in the public section hand hearts, giving them prayer hands,
Starting point is 00:42:53 you know, giving them a nod, and then the press just get like a look over at a nod, and then when he gets down, there is like a bird's nest of post-its just sitting in front of him. He's going through them. Perhaps it's his notes from a previous day. Perhaps it's from his attorneys. Mark Agnifilo sits with his arm draped around Combs' chair. The two look like they're on their first date at the movies or something.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Mark is fixing the top of Sean Combs' sweater. They're very cozy. Donaldson walks over to the sketch artist and I cannot hear the full comment, but he says, and I hear this part, you see that fantastically handsome man over there? He's motioning towards where Mark Diddy and Brian Steele are. I don't know, but it- Which one is fantastically handsome?
Starting point is 00:43:38 It appears probably to be the defendant because, you know, he's the one in most of the sketches. Huh, okay. He's just like you see that fantastically handsome man over there and the sketch artists, they like really don't love to interact. They're just like, I feel like the only one that woos the sketch artists is like Mark Agnifilo and the prosecutors. Yeah, they love the prosecutors. But like, I mean, they're all like, I think they see each other frequently, the prosecutors. They work in the same office. Exactly. So it's not like they love them, it's just like more like think they see each other frequently, the prosecutors. They work in the same office. Exactly. So it's not like they love them.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's just like more like colleagues, like, oh, hey, you know. And again, you cannot convince me that Sean Combs does not get irked by these sketch artists. Like he just sits in his cell and I feel like it keeps him up at night because what was that comment? And then all of his family members, they're always checking on the sketches. His best friend is like making sure the sketch is good. So I'm like, is this keeping him up at night in his cell that's what I think the government may call its next witness the government calls Deontay Nash the door behind us opens and in walks two attorneys and Deontay Nash and as he's walking up to
Starting point is 00:44:41 the very front of the courtroom Combs is like rubbing his chin hairs he's walking up to the very front of the courtroom, Combs is like rubbing his chin hairs. He's acting like he's so deep in thought. His beard? Yeah. Chin hair? His beard? His beard, yeah. I don't know why I described it, chin hairs,
Starting point is 00:44:55 I'm so sorry. But the way he plays with it, I guess like beard makes more sense, but like he will like individually roll some of them, and I just think chin hairs. and he's so deep in thought and that absolutely no one of any importance or relevance to him is walking into the room like it feels like when you try so hard to not feel like you're giving a crap about what's happening it's kind of that and it's very interesting that there's certain
Starting point is 00:45:22 people he tries a little harder to act more nonchalant around like he can't even be less interested even if he tried. Meanwhile Sean Combs' mother Janice Combs is death glaring Deontay Nash all the way down the aisle until he sits down. Deontay sits he begins swiveling back and forth because it's an office chair up there and he instinctively straightens out the tissue box He doesn't use a tissue He just straightens it his attention to detail is fascinating and once he sits down Combs is leaned all the way back with his back against the chair and he has gone level 9 out of 10 businessman
Starting point is 00:45:57 He places his left hand kind of like this. This is what it looks like. I can't see if it's on his hip I can't see if it's on his chair like this. This is what it looks like. I can't see if it's on his hip. I can't see if it's on his chair like this. It's kind of placed so that his left elbow is bent. And then his right hand is placed on the armrest, the elbow is, and he's playing with his facial hairs. And he just looks like the CEO in a conference room waiting for an intern that's about to get fired to bring him an iced coffee stat otherwise. Meanwhile, prosecutor Comey is at the lectern and she begins her direct examination. And just in case we did not already know, which we already knew, because just judging Deontay's energy that is radiating off of him, he does not want to be here.
Starting point is 00:46:41 But he is asked, are you testifying here today because you received a subpoena? Yes. Do you want to testify at this trial? Absolutely not. What do you do for work? I'm a celebrity stylist. Deontay says that he's worked with styling both Sean Combs and Cassie and it's kind of cute because when he's asked to, and this is Cassie's best friend, when he's asked to
Starting point is 00:47:01 identify Cassie on the screen, he's like smiling to himself and he says, oh that's Cass. Then another picture is brought up. Can we pull up please what's an evidence as government exhibit 2A504? And who is that? It's a picture of Deontay Nash, okay? And honestly he looks good. His skin is glowing in the picture. He looks great. That's me. Is this a fair and accurate depiction of what you looked like during part of the time that you worked for Mr. Combs as a stylist? These are like very standard questions and usually people just say yeah and he responds no and everyone's like wait what is happening? Are we what's happening? We don't know what's happening nobody's ever said no. Is it a
Starting point is 00:47:40 glamour shot of you? Yes I look amazing and. And so we're like, okay, the whole courtroom starts giggling and meanwhile, Combs looks like someone just farted. Like he is not content right now. Meanwhile, his bestie in the back already has his eyes closed in the friends and family pews. Deontay says that he and Cassie were really close during that time period and still to this day,
Starting point is 00:48:02 but focusing on that time period, they were very, very close. And because he works with them, he has a friendship with Cassie, he would see Cassie and Sean Combs interact a lot considering they were dating. What if any names did you hear Mr. Combs call Ms. Ventura in front of you? Baby girl, Cece, Cass, bitch, slut, hoe. Combs just starts rapidly blinking like he has like he's never heard these words before in his life like they do not exist in his lexicon he cannot even spell them for you if you asked. About how many times do you
Starting point is 00:48:35 remember hearing Mr. Combs call her a bitch? Um, quite a bit. That was his fave. So at this point Xavier Donaldson, defense counsel, leans into the microphone. I'm sorry Judge, I couldn't hear the last answer. Deontay Nash leans into the microphone. I said quite a bit that was his fave. Like in that tone? Yes. And now you just you just know the energy going into this. Like you usually like with the witnesses there is a certain energy that you're trying to pick up when you're taking notes because
Starting point is 00:49:08 You're also anticipating the cross you're anticipating all these things which means also Donaldson will be doing the cross So he doesn't look like you know a lot of them seem nervous and uncomfort. He's like fully Like himself like he's fully himself and i think he is um no he does not like the defense council i think he's here to also fight for a friend and he's like not trying to back down wow yeah and he does win the jurors over so which means donaldson is going to be doing the cross and it's interesting that he always goes up against Komi, which Komi is very sharp. I mean Donaldson as well, but he does have him repeat kind of the worst thing to repeat once more. Like out of all things that you didn't hear correctly, like you got to have him repeat.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Oh yeah, his favorite word to call his girlfriend was bitch. Like it's almost like working for the other side. Yes, there are so many times where I write down is he an up because what's happening in my notes and I'm like passing it to my researcher and she's like, what's happening? In what context did you hear Mr. Combs call Cassie a bitch? Bitch stop playing with me, bitch you better bring your ass to this house. I mean I was there for quite some time. It's clear, again, Sean Combs is not having a good time. Okay, Deontay Nash is kind of a juror favorite.
Starting point is 00:50:32 They're super absorbed in every single word that he is saying, and he's just kind of captivating. He seems very transparent as well. And how about how often did you hear Mr. Combs refer to Cassie as a hoe or a slut? Quite a few. In what context? Um, he just told her that she was an outright hoe.
Starting point is 00:50:50 He told her she was nothing but a slut anyway. So when you heard Mr. Combs say the things you just testified to, Mr. Nash, how did you observe Ms. Ventura react? She'd be sad. What would she do? Sometimes cry, sometimes go into a depression. Objection, Your Honor!
Starting point is 00:51:06 Move to strike the last part of the answer. Depression part? Yeah. Overruled. Like, I swear to you, there is any time one of Combs' defense attorneys get an objection that is overruled, I just feel like it's another strike on his cell walls or in his little truth notebook. At this point of the overruled objection, Combs leans back further in his chair, but he's already leaned all the way back, but he like does this weird lean back so
Starting point is 00:51:31 instead his shoulders just do this awkward half roll back instead and he seems a little bit annoyed. Deontay goes on to testify that he's heard Combs not only call Cassie all those horrendous names but also he would threaten her quote that he would beat her ass, he wouldn't put her music out, that he would get her parents fired from their jobs and he would send her sex tapes to their jobs. He would start there. And every time he said these things would drive Cassie crazy. Meanwhile Combs is just sitting over there taking notes at this point. Deontay says Cassie would. Meanwhile, Combs is just sitting over there taking notes at this point. Deontay says,
Starting point is 00:52:06 Cassie would just cry. Sometimes she would stay in the house for days, go into a cocoon, be super emotional. And a few notable instances that stick out to Deontay, or, well, he's asked about these, is once Deontay was with Cassie and she gets a call from Combs, she starts freaking out and picks up,
Starting point is 00:52:22 puts it on speakerphone. So over the speakerphone, what it on speakerphone. So over the speakerphone, what did you hear Mr. Combs say? That she better bring her ass to his house? What happened next? She started to panic and then Puff called back and he talked to me at that moment and he told me that we're wildin' and that he thought he told us not to be going out and says every time I go out that bitch Want to go out then I need to stay my ass home, too The jurors are head-down taking their notes like they're in algebra class like they are not missing a single word
Starting point is 00:52:54 They're taking down everything a few of the combs family and friends are starting to fall asleep So like there is a weird juxtaposition. They're sleeping the jurors have never been more engaged And then there's the Vanity Fair party could you explain what a Vanity Fair party is, please? A Vanity Fair party is the Oscars after party. So this is in 2014. Deontay, Combs, Cassie, and Derek, another stylist that's supposed to go to the after party, they get there. And who did you arrive at the party with? Cassie. When you and Cassie arrived at the party who was already at there puff?
Starting point is 00:53:26 What interactions did you have with mr. Combs at the Vanity Fair party? He said I thought I fucking told y'all that she needed to wear her hair up Let me back up. How is miss Ventura's hair styled when you arrived at the party? Oh, she looked bomb and the jurors start giggling even Donaldson is half laughing while he blurt's objection into the mic, which promptly gets overruled. And at this point, I would like to think that there is steam rating off of Sean Combs' head, but he seems relatively, like he seems like he's keeping it in well, but it does fall apart later. And then Deontay starts. And when Mr. Combs came and had this conversation with you, what did he say? I thought I told you she needs to wear her hair up. What did Mr. Combs came and had this conversation with you, what did he say? I thought I told you she needs to wear her hair up.
Starting point is 00:54:07 What did Mr. Combs do physically when he said that to you? Grab me by my jacket and lifted me up. What? What was Mr. Combs' tone as he was grabbing you by your jacket and lifting you up? Angry? A few of the jurors, and it is very interesting, a lot of the jurors are getting a lot more expressive
Starting point is 00:54:23 as the days go on. In the beginning of the trial, they would act like the gallery does not exist. Now, a lot of them will look out into the gallery. A lot of them will now giggle amongst themselves during sidebars, have conversations, share looks. And more notably, a lot of them are more open to looking towards combs now. So when people bring up violence, I will see at least a few of the jurors, as they're taking notes, their eyes will shoot up and they'll look towards combs now so when people bring up violence I will see at least a few of the jurors as they're taking notes their eyes will shoot up and they'll look at combs maybe to see his reaction maybe to gauge how he's like you know responding body language wise to everything that's being said so
Starting point is 00:54:56 it's very interesting so at this part a lot of them are like taking notes and then they look up to see how he's responding he is also intensely taking notes Deontay explains that after that, Combs just starts asking people in the party for hairpins. They go into the bathroom, put her hair up, and when they come out he said that Deontay was right because it looks better down. Now there is a certain energy between defense attorney Xavier Donaldson and Deontay Nash. I don't know what this energy is but it is something and I say that because Donaldson is the one that's gonna do the cross and on the way out at the very
Starting point is 00:55:29 end after all of this, like this in hindsight should tell you there's some energy there, okay? After a very overly lengthy cross examination as Deontay is leaving the stand to leave this courthouse to fly back to Los Angeles, he leans over at Donaldson. Everybody's just watching him walk out and he whispers something. And Donaldson looks a little phased, which we'll get into that. So there is some sort of energy,
Starting point is 00:55:52 but even during the direct, when Donaldson would object something like, I don't know, maybe something myself or someone like Deontay, we are not attorneys, we don't know why he's objecting sometimes, Deontay Nash will just look at Donaldson with like a slightly annoyed, we are not attorneys. We don't know why he's objecting sometimes. Deontay Nash will just look at Donaldson with like a slightly annoyed, slightly amused expression. Like you're objecting again.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Like that kind of face. For example, one question, Coney asks Deontay, what if any role did you play in helping her record music during her relationship with Mr. Combs? I helped her pick songs. I probably should have been called an exec, objection, objection. He was saying I probably should have been called an exec objection objection he was saying i probably should have been called an executive
Starting point is 00:56:30 okay so yeah what are you objecting yeah and then prosecutor comey just offers i can ask another question all right that's the judge diante nash is just staring like what are you doing sir combs is also staring at him like what are you doing sir i Combs is also staring at him like what are you doing sir? I mean Combs is very clearly involved in every part of his trial which is completely normal but it's very interesting so even later in the day when there's a break where the attorneys are arguing on whether or not something that they can admit into evidence and this is just giving you an idea that I don't think that I'm over reading into him staring at Donaldson. Brian Steele gets up and he says something to the effect of,
Starting point is 00:57:05 on that your honor, just you know, I think you said something earlier in the trial. If I'm misquoting you, I'm not trying to do that intentionally, but something like this, this is a trial by rumor, I think you said. Which the judge did say something like that, but the word that he used was gossip, not rumor. Well, Combs whispers, Brian Steele leans down, Sean Combs whispers, and he shoots back up, Gossip, sorry. And that's how I feel about this. So you know, I don't think the argument itself is necessarily pertinent, but I don't want
Starting point is 00:57:38 you guys to think I'm like reading into Sean Combs looking at the attorneys when they do the, like in any of these situations. I just feel like he's very very closely paying attention to almost everything but his own mannerisms because during another break his sons walk in late after lunch so they walk in late in the beginning of the day they walk in late after lunch and oh their lunch break is over and they came in came back late yeah and one of the family friends is holding like a Chick-fil-A nugget box so there's that and Kone starts tinkering with this rolled up post-it note. I mean clearly the post-it there was like something written on there perhaps he wanted to get rid of it what have you. He rolls it up and he starts rubbing it
Starting point is 00:58:17 kind of pushing it into his lips. It feels like he's unintentionally doing this motion almost like how you would put chapstick on but not gliding it, just like tapping it. But the post-it is rolled up like how one would roll up a bill to snort a line. That's the only way I can describe it. It was so weird. Both my researcher and I wrote it down independently and then we got back home and we're like,
Starting point is 00:58:36 it was like a bill to snort cocaine, no? Yeah, it was like so distinct. But continuing on, Komi asks, I wanna talk about another time you witnessed violence. Was there a time when you and Cassie were cooking in her apartment before Mr. Combs became violent? Defense attorney Xavier Donaldson passionately stands up. Objection, Judge!
Starting point is 00:58:55 Form of question! I'm sorry. Objection! Sorry. Side note, the judge has told everyone repeatedly, Attorneys, object object say objection and then if the judge asks for grounds then you say the grounds otherwise he can usually tell by the context because he has a live feed and he will either overrule or sustain usually he will do that
Starting point is 00:59:20 without even asking for the grounds donaldson is trying so hard to stay on the judge's good side. I think the whole defense has probably been irking the judge recently, said they're on their best behavior, and he's just profusely apologizing, and he's like whispering into the mic, sorry judge, sorry, to the point where even the judge kind of giggles, and then they move on. Now, do you remember in Cassie's testimony, where we are shown a picture of her eyebrow where she has an injury and she states it's because Combs came over unannounced and wanted
Starting point is 00:59:48 her to pack for a trip for a music festival in Canada that Drake was hosting but she had fallen asleep. Deontay was there and he says Combs just comes into the apartment that day and saying that he wants to talk to Cassie. So the two of them head over to Cassie's room and what happened after they went into the bedroom? He grabbed her as they were walking out. He grabbed her like by the hair and back of her shirt and started pushing her out and was like, I don't give a f**k. You're gonna get the f**k up out of my house. Y'all going to get the f**k up out of my house. Deontay says that he tried to intervene but Combs just started quote,
Starting point is 01:00:20 well he was more so like popping me in the back of the head because I don't have hair and grabbing me by my shirt and pushing. When you say he was popping me in the back of the head because I don't have hair and grabbing me by my shirt and pushing. When you say he was popping you in the back of your head, what was he doing to your head? Like you know, like a slap, you like pop someone in the head. Deontay is just like motioning for the jurors and they're all like looking at him, doing a popping motion, and then they're all looking down and taking notes. Meanwhile Combs is incredibly stoic in like a, I don't know who you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:00:47 that just could not be me. And the Combs sons, they look bored. Deontay Nash continues that afterwards, Combs just starts berating the two of them. Who was he berating? Cassie and I. What was Mr. Combs saying as far as you can remember? We're not gonna be playing with him,
Starting point is 01:01:02 we can just take our broke asses and ride into the sunset. Deontay states that he heard Combs tell Cassie that she fucked up and that he was gonna put her sex tapes on the internet. He was going to release them on schedule and that he was going to first start by sending them to her parents' jobs and then was gonna get them fired and that her brother was a bitch and that Puff was the only one that protected her. Combs has been frozen the entire time but it seems like subconsciously he quickly looks over at Comey and the jurors I think perhaps to gauge their reaction because it's a pretty intense statement. Meanwhile Janice Combs, Sean Combs' mom, takes off
Starting point is 01:01:38 her sunglasses and starts kind of brushing stray hairs from her wig but Deonte is not fazased by this threat. He told Cassie, I told her, I said, well girl, if he wants to release the sex tapes, then let him because he's on them too. How did Cassie respond when you said that Puff was on the videos too? She said that he wasn't on the videos,
Starting point is 01:01:59 that it was him taping her with other guys. And did she say what she was doing with those other guys? Yeah, having sex with the other guys. What did she say about whether in that moment in 2013 or 2014 she wanted to have sex with other guys? Objection! That's overruled. That she didn't want to. And what did she say about why she was in that moment? Because Puff wanted her to. He later states that in a fit of anger,
Starting point is 01:02:25 Combs comes over to Deontay's house to search for Cassie after an explosive fight, and she ends up not being there. But quote, Puff came in and he was like, "'Where the fuck is she?' He started looking all around my house, in the closets. He went in the oven. I don't know why he looked in the oven. And he asked me where she was.
Starting point is 01:02:41 A few of Combs' family and friends are shaking their heads with their lips pursed like this is all ridiculous. So take that as you will. Maybe it's all ridiculous because it's not true. Maybe it's ridiculous because, you know, that is kind of ridiculous to be searching in an oven. I don't know. Meanwhile, Combs is literally a statue.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He's not moving. He is doing this. We have unlocked a new, like, witness stair. So previously, a lot of his stairs were either straight on or he would do this thing where he lifts his chin up and he kind of like looks at them from above like he's lowering their eyes looking at them like this but he's doing this new thing where he's tucking his chin a little and it's almost a little through his eyelashes he's looking at them and all that's happening while Donaldson is looking like he's chomping
Starting point is 01:03:24 at the bit like his butt is nowhere on that seat It's like non-stop up and down trying to object to everything that Deontay is saying Eventually Deontay explains that they all go to find Cassie who is at a hotel and she is now Threatening to climb over the balcony to escape How high up was the balcony? It wasn't the first floor. Do you remember what the floor was on? No. Both Combs and the jurors are again intensely taking notes and Deontay moves on to talk about Cassie's 29th birthday, which was a rather big part of Cassie's testimony. She stated that on her birthday she wanted to be with her friends, but instead she states that Combs forced her into
Starting point is 01:04:01 having a freak off. Deontay states that he was there for a lot of it, and he remembers that Sean Combs was asking him if he should fly in from Miami to surprise Cassie for her birthday, because remember, Cassie said she wasn't even expecting him to come? Deontay says Combs asked him, should I surprise her? And he responded,
Starting point is 01:04:15 I told him if you want to. Now, why did you tell Mr. Combs to come if you'd seen him do all this violence to Cassie? Girl, I was not about to tell him that he couldn't come give that girl a party phoenix single court and had no idea what to do because the onto a nash just called prosecutor coming girl and so everyone's like slightly frozen which clearly was not done with any malice or anything it was not rude or anything
Starting point is 01:04:41 it was just a very unexpected and so were like, are we allowed to laugh or are we not allowed to laugh? It was just very confusing. The jurors lips were downturned and like kind of like, what just happened? And they're giving each other faces. Meanwhile, Tani Garagos looks at Mark Agnifilo with, she just looks very shocked. Even some of the press I could see. They're like hesitating before taking notes because it's like, I don't really know what to write down in this moment. He called prosecutor Comey girl, and it like was a long girl.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It wasn't like girl, it was like girl. Yeah, even Christian King Combs, he consistently looks like he would rather be wrestling a baguette from a flock of angry pigeons in Central Park like he looks like anything else in New York seems better than this he's leaning forward resting his elbows on his knees staring at Deontay the only one seemingly unfazed is prosecutor Comey who just moves on what do you remember happening at the birthday party as they were leaving Puff
Starting point is 01:05:44 was telling Cassie you I do this, I'll do everything for you and you just can't do this one thing for me. I asked her about Puff. I was like, girl, what is she over there doing? What is she talking about? And Cassie said, girl, she's just mad because I don't want to go to the hotel and freak off with him. Which I do think there are reasons why Deontay switched to she pronouns in this context that I think the more I tried to research the more confusing it got and Maybe it's like the nodding, maybe I don't have better life experience to tell me exactly what it means
Starting point is 01:06:13 I just know it happened, so please let me know in the comments What do you mean? So a lot of people say in certain conversations people might use she pronouns to downplay like I guess abusive people I don't know it just got more and more but they just kept referring to Sean Combs as she oh okay okay like what is she over there upset about and this is not like a mistake it was that's what was said yes yes and then in other aspects she pronouns were not used. I see.
Starting point is 01:06:45 So it's... Yeah. If you have an idea, let me know. Because I feel like the more I Google, the more I'm like, what? I think I get it. I get it. Yeah. It's like, what are... Yeah, okay. So regardless of the intent, in the courtroom, Combs has his chin all the way up now. So he went from tucked to up, and he's looking down at Deontay Nash, even though Deontay Nash is sitting higher than him. Deontay Nash states that
Starting point is 01:07:07 ultimately after the karaoke Combs makes Cassie go back to her place and start packing a bag. What do you remember Mr. Combs saying? Y'all girl gonna get some dick tonight. What is your relationship with Cassie like now? Very close. How often do you talk? Pretty often. Have you discussed the substance of your testimony here today with Cassie at all? No. Has she discussed the substance of her testimony, if any, with you at all? No. About how many times have you met with prosecutors in connection with this case? Too many. Now, side note, so many people are catching strays during this entire testimony, including the prosecutors, but Deontay has asked about a guy later named Rob Holliday whom he refers to as a low-budget producer
Starting point is 01:07:46 and even when prosecutor Comey asks him about their meetings I mean, yeah, she's trying to prove a point but it's so clear he doesn't like the prosecutors either About how many of those meetings did you cut off in early and end early because you did not want to continue participating in them? Probably all of them and with that response a lot of the jurors are smirking at each other Because I guess same. Deontay says he feels no hatred for Sean Combs It's just not in him to feel hatred for someone and that even after everything He still has reached out to combs on certain occasions and with that the most unhinged cross-examination begins Do you guys remember Xavier Donaldson's previous cross-examination, the very first one that he did that had me so incredibly puzzled?
Starting point is 01:08:26 I am here to report back that he has indeed gotten better. However, this entire cross-examination was such a mess. I feel like the defense attorneys, they all have very distinct cross-examination styles. I think Nicole Westmoreland is quite confrontational and authoritative. I think she works best with witnesses who do not stand their ground that strong. I think she could convince me that I grew a third leg on last Tuesday. Like she, I would say yeah, because the way she asks questions is so confrontational and I'm so not confrontational, I would just go with it. Bryan Steele has a southern gentleman flair,
Starting point is 01:09:09 but is relatively most of the time pretty straightforward. Anna Estaveo is quite collected most times. She's a bit more neutral in her questions. Mark Agnifilo is a charmer, he likes to disarm people. And Xavier Donaldson, he's a showman, you know? He is here for a good cross. And the only problem here is Deontay Nash, if somebody is giving a show out of these two, I would rather watch Deontay Nash's show.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I think that Deontay Nash on the stand has a very snappy nature to him. Yes, it's a very intense setting, but he is not intimidated. He will say what's on his mind, he will respond like we are just at dinner together with friends. I think in this type of situation, perhaps Mark Agnifilo or even Ana Esteveo would have been a better fit. I feel like Deontay and Westmoreland would have gotten into a full blown argument. I feel like Brian Steele would not be able to charm his way to Deontay. And I also feel like Deontay would be like, girl, to Brian Steele. And then Brian Steele would genuinely be confused
Starting point is 01:10:08 and be like, who are you talking to? And then we'd have to sit through an hour of him trying to figure out who he's talking to and calling girl. And it would be a whole thing. Maybe Mark could disarm him. He's quite smooth. Esteveo likely would have kept it quite neutral, not dissimilar to Comey,
Starting point is 01:10:23 although Comey's a little snappier with her questions, like very quick. However, Xavier Donaldson goes up to do the cross. And later one of the people in the hallways were passionately talking and I was passionately eavesdropping and they said, these are their words not mine. I think, I know a lot of people don't love this word, but the way that they were describing it is, Donaldson tried to outsass Deontay and you can't do that like that was the dumbest thing he could have done It's just not happening he should have taken a different approach I mean, let me just tell you how the cross starts off Donaldson walks up to the lectern. Good afternoon, sir
Starting point is 01:10:59 Good afternoon Deontay asks him. How are you? Oh Okay, I'm pretty good. Thank you. How are you? Blessed. Donaldson is at a loss for words and he hasn't even gotten to the first question. He just repeats the answer like he's got to let it soak in. Blessed. Then he hits him with a, I'm gonna ask you to speak up as loud as you can so that the last person in this jury box can hear you which just a side note we could hear Deontay just fine so I think it was a power play and with that the very first question Donaldson already has his palms rubbing his temples he has both of his palms covering his eyes and
Starting point is 01:11:37 then they go to rub his temples like how someone would rub their temples in the midst of a debilitating migraine I'm like sir this is the first question in my researchers notes read Donaldson is literally one question in and he's rubbing his eyes Like he just did 20 hours of brain surgery Now you just mentioned on direct with miss Komi here that you met with the government several times is that right? Yes Interestingly enough when Komi was doing the direct Deontay would kind of swivel in his chair a little bit, like kind of nonchalantly respond. A very casual demeanor, but with Donaldson, it's giving an enemy of my friend is an enemy of mine.
Starting point is 01:12:11 He is staring Donaldson right in the eye. He's sitting up straight. His eye contact is intense. I don't think Donaldson was ready for this. I don't think Sean Combs informed him who Deontay Nash really is. Like truly, he's going to war for his best friend and Donaldson just like all eight nine feet of him he's so tall he's just standing at the lectern getting like smacked left and right by strays and I think Sean Combs should have warned him. Like at this point Sean Combs has a
Starting point is 01:12:39 dartboard with all of his attorneys faces on them and this one is just a big hit to Donaldson, okay? Just listen to the way Deontay rapid fire answers questions and his response rate is quick. Like the pace is very fast. The jurors are so busy taking notes and he's doing this all with a slightly sarcastic smile towards Donaldson. And that subpoena told you you had to come to court, correct?
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yes. Now as far as you going to the government's office to talk to them, you don't have to go there, correct? Nope. So when you went there, you went because, well you went voluntarily, right? Yeah. And so you went there to answer their questions like they said, correct? Yes. And you give them truthful answers. Nothing but the truth. And that is what you did every time you were there? Every single time. Donaldson tries to make it a whole point that Deontay hired civil lawyers who by the way were sitting directly in front of us the
Starting point is 01:13:34 entire testimony. They were professionally smiling at each other when their client would give snarky responses to Donaldson and we would see it and they would literally just look at each other and smile and nod. And it was overall a slightly lighter moment in the courtroom considering, but you did hire Mr. Dunn to pursue possible civil litigation against Mr. Combs, right? Objection! Sustained. Are you considering a lawsuit against Mr. Combs? No, I'm focused on getting out of here. At this point, even Mark Agnifilo is looking at Donaldson the same way that Combs is, like both of them are turned to their right, forehead wrinkled, rapid blinking, to which Donaldson
Starting point is 01:14:14 asks for a photo to be put on the screen just for the witness and the parties. We don't get to see it. Now after reading the document, does that refresh your recollection or does that change your testimony whether or not you are considering civil litigation against Mr. Combs? No, it doesn't. It seems like an assumption. We don't want to do assumptions in the courtroom. So does that document refresh your recollection that you are considering civil? No, it doesn't. Combs is looking at Donaldson. Just what is happening right now? Hold on. It doesn't. Donaldson says, hold on.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Deontay Nash responds, it doesn't. It does not? No. So it's fair to say that you do not have or not as much March, okay, one second. As of March 10th, 2025, which by the way, it's you are not considering or retaining counsel to consider suing Mr. Combs in civil actions?
Starting point is 01:15:08 I have counsel to protect me. I don't do federal court. Protect you related to your interests regarding civil claims against Mr. Combs, correct? No, this case. Donaldson quickly moves on and the defense just starts dumping exhibits. It's like a photo dump at this point and none of them are really that relevant.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And after all of those are received into evidence, Donaldson just starts asking Deontay, alright Mr. Nash, you testified this afternoon about your relationship with Miss Ventura, right? Cassie, right? Mrs. Fine? And Deontay's reaction feels so instant, like he was waiting for this moment and Donaldson is like I'm sorry Mrs. Fine. Mrs. Fine? Yes. Because she's married to Alex Fine? Yes. And that was we'll get to that so when you testified about your relationship to Mrs. Fine. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And honestly, Sean Combs looks peeved at this point. Though we could be thinking too deeply into it, I will say definitively he did not look happy. And perhaps in order to stall, perhaps in order to try and make the jurors forget about this entire conversation, Donaldson starts asking about the definition of a celebrity stylist. I think when you came into here, you said that you are a celebrity stylist. Yes, correct. And a celebrity stylist means someone that styles for celebrities, right? Yes. And that's contrary to someone who doesn't style for celebrities, right? Yes. Right in
Starting point is 01:16:42 front of us, Deontay's two attorneys swivel their heads to look at each other with a confused look, and one of them just shrugs, kind of like, I don't know where this is going either. Like, I don't know what's happening. And they just turn back to the front. So someone that's not a celebrity stylist can call themselves just a stylist. Yes. So you have earned the distinction of being a celebrity stylist because you style primarily for celebrities. At this point, the prosecutor is just as confused as we are. Objection your honor. Overruled.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Now, when you, you know, that's not how you started your career though, correct? You don't just become a celebrity stylist, you have to move up to become that. No, that's how it started. So in 2007, when you were an intern at Bad Boy, you were a celebrity stylist? I started as an intern. But you were a celebrity stylist is my question. Oh, no. So in 2008, you became a celebrity stylist.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah? What do you mean yeah? Yes. Combs is just staring at Donaldson's mouth agape. So by working at Bad Boy between 2007 and 2008, you just became a celebrity stylist. Yes. And that was because Mr. Combs introduced you to Cassie.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I introduced myself to Cassie. You introduced yourself to Cassie while working for Mr. Combs. Yes. This is the feeling of Mr. Donaldson, okay? Don't play games that you cannot win. Deontay is not here to be hee-hee-haha, bullied into saying yes or no to questions that he doesn't want to.
Starting point is 01:18:12 He's here to fight for his best friend. Like, I just see a best friend rage inside of him. Like, probably more than Cassie. Like, Cassie was... Like, there were so many emotions with Cassie. For Deontay, it gives me the energy of like, I saw what my best friend went through, and I'm so angry, and my anger is pretty pure,
Starting point is 01:18:30 because I don't have all the other complicated traumatic experiences that she might have. So my anger is just pure. Like he's here to fight. He's not just gonna roll over and let the multi-million dollar defense team walk all over him. But instead, Donaldson, I feel like he cannot help himself. He falls into the power play trap. This is why I thought Agnifilo or perhaps even Esteveo would have been a little better, because Donaldson asks Deontay, so it would be fair to say that Mr. Combs or Bad Boy helped start your career as you have now as a stylist, as a celebrity stylist. Would that be fair to say?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Yeah, go ahead. I'm going, don't worry about it. And soon after this, Donaldson just starts like wandering around the lectern again. I mean, the showman in him is like bursting out. He's starts wandering while asking, like he's starting to face the jurors, then he's turning all the way to the left to the defendant's table head on. At one point he takes three steps to the left to step out of the lectern so his whole body is in view for Deontay, all like, I don't know, 37 feet tall that he is. And I feel like he just like, he gets put on the worst crosses because every time we run into them in the hallway, Mr. Donaldson is truly a gentleman, perhaps more southern
Starting point is 01:19:43 gentleman than Bryan Steele, very sweet. And I hear nothing but good things about the press members that have actually worked with Donaldson. And I'm like, why do they keep giving him these crosses? Okay, but like more on that. He starts wandering, taking a full on sightseeing tour while questioning Deontay. So when you talked this morning, this afternoon,
Starting point is 01:20:02 about your knowledge of studios and your knowledge of time period your knowledge of when records Get released and your knowledge of who releases records and your knowledge of all of this You were giving us that information based on your extensive experience as a celebrity stylist, right? Comey stands up objection misstates the testimony your honor The judge is like you've got to rephrase the question. Mr. Donaldson, Mr. Donaldson, if you could do me a favor and just stay at the lectern just because the court reporters are having difficulty if you're not
Starting point is 01:20:29 at the microphone. At this point, Donaldson exaggerate, like exaggeratingly plants his feet into the ground. Like he's like going into quicksand. And it's like, and then the line of questioning starts taking more detours. So many times I would start a note of like, oh, I think I know where this is going. And then I'm like taking notes.
Starting point is 01:20:50 And then it's like, oh no, we're onto a new topic. It never got to the point where I thought it was going to. A few things to note, Donaldson is very likable. He has a very strong presence. I do think that he has to work against that. Maybe he comes off a bit stronger with his very commanding height and his presence. Maybe it would be too intimidating. But he just like, he tries to bring personality into it and everything he does, the only feeling that we walked away, like my researcher and I were trying to put it into words, it's always
Starting point is 01:21:19 like weird argument but go off I guess. It's not particularly offensive what he's doing. He's not harassing witnesses. He's not aggressive and mean. It's just kind of a weird argument to make, but I guess if that's what you want to do. That's the whole cross. As a celebrity stylist, you indicated that you purchased clothes, correct?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Uh-huh. Is that a yes? Yes. You also helped them pick out clothing for their weddings, correct? Uh-huh. Is that a yes? Yes. You also help them pick out clothing for their weddings, correct? Everyone's like, weddings? Yes. And in fact, as you indicated for Mrs. Fine, you help pick out her wedding dress, correct? Yes. I glance over at the defense table. Combs looks incredibly stressed. Forehead wrinkles. You could stick a quarter into his forehead wrinkle folds.
Starting point is 01:22:05 He's very stressed. He's mouth agape staring at Donaldson. Because what are we getting from this line of questioning? I think what he's trying to get at is that him and Cassie are very close. Maybe he has incentive to lie on the stand. Maybe they got their stories straight. Maybe they talked while she was testifying. Maybe he would lie on the stand for her. I don't know what inferences he's trying to make to the jurors, while she was testifying. Maybe he would lie on the stand for her. I don't know what inferences he's trying to make to the jurors, but all I'm getting out of this is
Starting point is 01:22:27 Cassie found the love of her life, someone she wants to settle down and have children with after we saw that hotel footage. Like that's, what's the feeling I'm supposed to get from this? Like she found her prince charming after all and she's having like a happily ever after now that the defendant is out of her life.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Like Brian Steele is straight up smiling because it feels like where are we going with this? He's smiling at the defense table. Even Mark Agnifilo is staring at Donaldson like I'm just watching this unfold. Same as you guys. This is how I know he's doing those strikes at home. Donaldson goes into a string of questions asking,
Starting point is 01:23:00 you know someone named Scott Langston? No. Okay, what about, you know the public school brand, the public school clothing brand? No. Do you know Muriel Solomon? No. Every time Deontay says no, Combs is getting more upset. It just is like a string of nos.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Donaldson says, now it would be fair to say that when you worked at Bad Boy as an intern and as a stylist for Mr. Combs and as a stylist for mrs. um what's her name mrs. he's talking about cassie mrs. fine like it's so clear you did not just forget her last name alex fine was a pretty big part of the case in terms of you guys didn't even want him in the room for a certain portion of the testimony oh you feel like it was intentional it did feel intentional like I mean unless maybe he's not that well versed in the case but like you could pull anyone from the public and be like what's Cassie's husband's last name and they'd be like fine. Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:23:58 huh. You know? Interesting. You didn't just uh like what's her name? And he's like fine fine. Mrs. Fine. Um, there were other artists that were also signed to the bad boy roster Would that be fair to say? Yes. Who were they? French Montana. Wait, French Montana the hip-hop person rap star. He literally said it like that. I know He sounds like almost surprised? No, I think he's trying to draw emphasis on French Montana. I actually don't know. He said, oh, the hip hop person, rap star.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I think he's trying to draw emphasis on French Montana that Bad Boy had signed a lot of people. Maybe some people in the jury would know French Montana. Maybe they're fans of French Montana. Maybe he's trying to pull a Mark Agnifilo, which is like, aw, dad, you don't know anything. I don't know. It was just kind of odd. Yes, I mean, and puff.
Starting point is 01:25:00 That's all I can really remember right now. At this point, I would say that Sean Combs is the most intrigued by the cross-examination. He is the one paying the most attention. Even the press are getting lost. I saw a lot of members of the press put down their notebooks and just watch because like every point that starts somewhere, the notes like end without getting to the point. So then it would just be like a new thing that starts and everyone's just like we'll just read the transcripts later because what's happening right now I mean the line of questioning has no
Starting point is 01:25:29 clear obvious point to us and then it just starts over it just feels like a sightseeing tour do you recall a haircut that Cassie had the side haircut yes that haircut became homeless iconic status, correct? Yes. It became the Cassie cut, correct? Yes. People all around the world were getting their hair cut, correct? Objection, Your Honor. Sustained. Let's move on. We do not indeed move on. Who decided that haircut? Who suggested the haircut? Puff? Then we take a detour to just celebrity name drop. At least
Starting point is 01:26:06 that's what it feels like. Wait, that was the end of the haircut? Yeah. For no reason. That's why I'm telling you a lot of us stop taking our notes because it's like, okay, we're getting somewhere with the haircut. Is it about coercion? Is it about control? Is it about, what is it about? To say that he wasn't the one controlling her because Cassie wanted to cut her hair. Like, what could it be?
Starting point is 01:26:24 And then we just got nowhere and then we just move on. Then we take a detour at a celebrity name drop fest. I mean perhaps the point Donaldson is trying to make I think is that Cassie had ample opportunity to work with massive names in the industry. Connections that were all provided by Sean Combs is the point that he's trying to make I believe. But at this point, 2016, you are basically executive producing this mixtape of Cassie's, correct? Deontay did mention that he was heavily involved and that he should have been called an executive, remember that in the direct? With the team, we have a team. You got no credit for that, right? No. You got paid no money for that. No one
Starting point is 01:27:00 got paid for the mixtape. So no one besides you and Cassie knew what you did on this mixtape Is that fair to say Rob Holliday? Rob Holliday is the low-budget producer you said earlier? Yes, at this point all the Combs family and friends are just kind of smirking in the pews because Like what is this right now? And like they probably know Rob Holliday. Oh Like what did Rob Holliday do? I don't know When you said low-budget producer you were just saying that because he's a low paying producer or he's not a good producer or he's like a whack producer.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Why is he a low budget producer? A little bit of all the above. And he was this low budget producer also on the mixtape, correct? Yes. Meek Mills was on the mixtape, correct? Yes. And Meek Mills at the time was a really popular, internationally known rap artist, correct?
Starting point is 01:27:48 Correct. You also said French Montana, correct? Yes. He was also a pretty well known popular rap artist, correct? Correct. Jeremiah, right? Yes. Platinum selling artist?
Starting point is 01:28:01 I don't know his stats. Very popular at the time though, correct? Yeah, yes. Fabulous? Yes. Combs has almost no reaction to any of the names being listed except when Donaldson brings up Rick Ross. Combs sits up, he puts his left arm on the table, and he's kind of now facing a little bit towards Donaldson
Starting point is 01:28:20 and now the jury, and perhaps he realizes how awkward this is because in this random awkward motion He like puts his right arm up now and now he's like facing more towards the front but kind of like a kid at the Back of the classroom like just like awkward There's a lot to be said about Sean Combs and Rick Ross side note Jonathan Odey said during his interrogation that the two were sleeping together That is Jonathan Odey's words. interrogation that the two were sleeping together. That is Jonathan Odey's words. I've never uttered such a thing. There's also a video of Diddy and Rick Ross that has been making its rounds on TikTok
Starting point is 01:28:51 where they are holding up a gallon of soap. I don't know. It's like liquid soap in a gallon. Rick Ross is shirtless. Janice Combs, Diddy's mom, is in the back in a golf cart. He's calling it an open top convertible. And they're making all these weird comments, and the energy is off, and Rick Ross is just asking Janice Combs, Diddy's mother, if she likes the slippery soap.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Which like, I don't know. It's just interesting. I mean, the leaning forward, and then he starts taking notes around the time that Rick Ross has mentioned. I don't think it's anything other than AI generated conspiracies, but I am intrigued by everything Jonathan Odey has said. Now back at the cross, Donaldson asks, but Too Short was on there too? Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:35 And he is a really well known, you know, correct? Moderately. Moderately. So this, these rap artists, these platinum selling popular rap artists at the time, all were on Cassie's mixtape, correct? Which I see the point, but it took a second to get to that point. And I do think that the jurors got lost at that point. Deontay's testimony was really only supposed to last for one day because he has a flight scheduled on taxpayer money, by the way. Which is not a dig, just to give you an idea, this trial, we don't know the exact figure,
Starting point is 01:30:03 but it is likely that for massive federal criminal cases, it's costing you and I, taxpayers, perhaps close to $3-10 million if not more. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a lot more. The judge asks him, Mr. Donaldson, about how much time do you have left? And this is during a break when the jurors are out of the room. I have absolutely no reason to believe I'll be finished by four. Which is fine. Combs is entitled to a fair trial. However, Donaldson did not mention any of this earlier when the prosecutors were informing everybody
Starting point is 01:30:32 about Deontay's flight back out to LA. Even the judge is staring at him like, wait, but did you know that you were not gonna be finished by four when we had the discussion and I told the jury that I was going to get them out by four? You should have told me that. We would have let the jury go and Ms. Comey or other folks from the government side could have made the appropriate arrangements given that there's a flight later today. Respectfully, Judge, is this a late-breaking development that you now think you won't be done by four? Judge, respectfully, I tried to do what the court and Ms. Comey was considering, which is to try and get finished by four. After going through what I'm going through,
Starting point is 01:31:05 I'm telling the court that I do not think I'll be done by four. I understand. Look, you should ask the questions you need to ask. My only request is moving forward. Just let me know because I don't want to tell the jury something and then have them leave. I don't know, when they think that they're going to be here,
Starting point is 01:31:19 we can finish something up, I let them go. I want to be able to give the right instructions to the jury in the future. Anyone from the government side, any response or anything regarding scheduling that we need to know? Ms. Comey stands up. I'll work on rebooking the witnesses' flight, Your Honor. I'll note that this witness does not seem to be fighting Mr. Donaldson. He seems to be answering the questions. I think many of the questions are repetitive and covering the same territory over and over again. I'm hoping we can be more efficient. The judge says, you mean how would you define stylist and everyone starts giggling?
Starting point is 01:31:52 What are we doing here like we're staying till four for this Yeah, exactly your honor. Alright, so let's go to four and then we'll take a break and then on the break You know, the only thing is we do need to move this along Maybe we can use the break to make sure that we're being as streamlined as possible. So during the break, there's a brief huddle with Combs and his attorneys. Combs looks like the football coach trying to motivate his team. And then he glances back at justin combs his son who gives him a thumbs up and i've read in my notes
Starting point is 01:32:30 sir don't like your dad like that's crazy what is that like that's not what's happening right now in the pews it's not what we observe in the jury right now but i guess sure thumbs up maybe it's like he or maybe this is all a stalling tactic maybe this is all part of a greater chess move that I am too dumb to even recognize. I don't know, but it wasn't giving thumbs up.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Another thought that we had was that this was a scare tactic for Mia, which is the second victim testifying in this case. And she was actually in the courthouse. She was supposed to start her testimony right after Deontay gnashed. But we didn't even get to her that day. So maybe it was a scared tactic, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:08 It was so confusing, the cross was so confusing, we thought of all these crazy things. Like maybe that's another. We're like, there's gotta be a strategy, because what was that? If there's no strategy, what was that? After the break, Deontay Nash walks back in. This time he's wearing a big bomber jacket.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Diddy's entire family watches him walk down the aisle, Combs is popping what appears to be a cough drop in his mouth. Deontay sits down and the judge looks at his new jacket. It's not just you, it is freezing in here. It is freezing in here. I'm like, how are y'all doing this every day? If you thought that things would get better after the break,
Starting point is 01:33:44 Donaldson leans forward into the mic. Mr. Nash, welcome back. Thank you. You're welcome. Nice coat. Thank you. You're very welcome. What size is it? Not your size. And everyone, I mean I don't even know why he asked that question. Everyone starts giggling. That's the right answer. You got the right answer. I just want to ask you a few more questions about the stylist part. I'm just gonna go really quickly. Donaldson asks questions about whether or not Sean Combs would naturally have the last say in the artists of their label about stylistic choices considering its entertainment business. Aka Sean Combs did not have any
Starting point is 01:34:18 special control or force over Cassie. It's just part of Hollywood that as the label owner, he would have to approve of what she wears, how she dresses, and not as her boyfriend. But Deontay says, no, Sean Combs had control over Cassie, the other artists not really. Who would be the final decision maker? Most of the time the artists kind of did their own thing. But they would send it to Mr. Combs or someone to get some type of consultation in the decision making, would that be fair to say?
Starting point is 01:34:45 Not that I know of, some of them looked terrible. The jurors giggle again and some of them are glancing at each other like, this is crazy right now. The ones that you did, they didn't look terrible. Yeah. Donaldson abandons this line of questioning and moves on to perhaps hint at the idea that maybe Cassie and Deontay have been talking about their testimonies getting on the same page. That's the hint that he's dropping. I'm not saying it's true. That's what he's trying to drop, but it kind of backfires. Now as far as Cassie is concerned, she's your good
Starting point is 01:35:14 friend, best friend. When is the last time you spoke to her? After she had the baby yesterday? Tell her congratulations. And he's more so telling everyone in the gallery. Oh, you're saying congratulations or you're telling me to tell gallery. Oh, you're saying congratulations, or you're telling me to tell her congratulations. He's like, no, no, no thanks. Like, you don't go tell her congratulations, you're crazy. There's a few gasps, combs from his side profile. He does like a subtle nod,
Starting point is 01:35:38 but it appears that his jaw is clenched. And like we can tell because usually his default is that his mouth is slightly ajar, but it's like clear that his jaw is clenched. And it can tell because usually his default is that his mouth is slightly ajar but it's like clear that his jaw is clenched and it just in our personal opinions It looks like he's trying to watch his face because of course everyone's gonna be looking for his reaction even the judge buts in Alright, let's keep it going. The last time you spoke to her was yesterday Yes, and before that was when? Polly the day before that? So it's fair to say that you spoke to her
Starting point is 01:36:03 You know she testified in this trial, correct? Yes. You spoke to her before she testified, correct? Yes. You spoke to her after she testified, correct? Yes. Did you speak to her in the middle of her testimony? Um, not really, no.
Starting point is 01:36:17 You say not really. What does that mean? Did she call you? Did you ask her how she's doing? How she was doing, but more like her clothes stuff. And Marnie handled most of that because she was doing, but more like her clothes stuff, and Marnie handled most of that because she was here in New York, and so you spoke to her about what clothes she should wear while she was testifying, is that fair to say? Yeah. Donaldson takes
Starting point is 01:36:32 off his glasses. Because Cassie is one of your best friends. You were helping her pick out the clothing that she was going to wear to come to court, correct? Correct. Because again, she's still an artist, entertainer, so it's important how she court, correct? Correct. Because again, she's still an artist, entertainer, so it's important how she looks, correct? The feeling is he's making it seem like, the point that I got was trying to make it seem like Cassia is vain. She's a performer at the end of the day that wanted to do anything to excel her career, perhaps even possibly draw a conclusion and connection that if she's a performer, was she performing while she was testifying? Was this all a performance test? Like it's
Starting point is 01:37:08 just it's not a good look. I don't know how deep this like rabbit hole could go down. Maybe it's just hey jurors usually don't like vain women who care about their clothes a lot. Maybe it's that. But Deontay shuts it down as quickly as Donaldson brings it up. Oh no that wasn that wasn't why you wanted to make sure she looks good coming to court No, she couldn't fit anything. She needed clothes Because of the pregnancy. Yes You wanted to get the right clothing for her pregnancy exactly You wanted to pick out the stuff that fit her for the pregnancy, correct?
Starting point is 01:37:41 So again that didn't go anywhere no and I feel like the jurors were, I think that even if you watch the internet reactions, I think that Cassie is a more polarizing witness in this case. I think depending on a lot of the biases that people have going into this, some people think that she's a gold digger. She knew what she was getting into. And like maybe those people exist in the jury. Who's to say I'm not in the jury, right? But just there, when I was watching their reactions to Cassie's testimony,
Starting point is 01:38:13 there were some times where it felt like the jurors were not as receptive of her, or where they didn't like certain things. It seemed like they really didn't like her intercontinental lawsuit. It didn't seem like they even liked her lawsuit against Sean Combs where she got $20 million as a settlement. It's like these things, you could just kind of sense something. However, with Deontay Nash, the way he talks about Cassie, he makes her less polarizing. Cause it's just like a feeling of like,
Starting point is 01:38:39 if I have a best friend who is doing all of this for me, like I should be doing something right. Like he just makes her a lot less polar. I don't know if that's making any sense. Makes sense. Yeah. And just the way that he's talking about her, smiles when he sees her picture, like it feels very genuine. Now Donaldson in What Feels Like a Last Resort just takes the role of a fed. My researcher writes, sir are you on NARC? What is happening? Now we also mentioned yesterday that you had met like a last resort, just takes the role of a fed. My researcher writes, sir are you a narc? What is happening? Now we also mentioned yesterday that you had met with the government several times, correct? Yes. Too many times to even remember, correct? Yes. On the few
Starting point is 01:39:15 of your meetings with the government, were you, did you arrive at the meeting before smoking marijuana? One of them, Maureen cut it short. Marina's Maureen Comey. Because of what? She said she wanted me to have a clear mind. So you went to the meeting and you told her that you were high at the time? Yeah, I didn't say high. I said I'm smoking right now. I didn't say I was high. I'm sorry. So you told her that you were smoking. Well, not in the meeting, before you got to the meeting.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Yes. And then Miss Comey told you you need to stop the meeting because she wanted you to have a clear mind. I don't know where this went. That was it. And then Ms. Comey told you you need to stop the meeting because she wanted you to have a clear mind. I don't know where this went, that was it. And then he later asks Deontay Nash about another party. You said that Cassie was super high, correct? Correct. And you said that Mr. Combs was intoxicated, correct?
Starting point is 01:39:56 Correct. Did you get Cassie super high? Excuse me? And both of Deontay's attorneys are staring at each other like what the hell is happening right now? One of them even shakes their head in disbelief. Did you give? No. No, I did not. Then he starts talking about the revolt conference, which is when Cassie saw a picture of combs with Gina, the girl that he told her she didn't have to worry about. Well, Donaldson is asking Deontay about it and he's trying to describe revolt. Donaldson says, and when we say
Starting point is 01:40:24 revolt conference, revolt is I guess some about it and he's trying to describe Revolt. Donaldson says, and when we say Revolt Conference, Revolt is I guess, professional web, it's a, and he's like using his hands in the air, it's owned the, Diddy is looking at him like, you don't know what the Revolt is, like he genuinely looks offended. Just, it feels like forever before Deontay pulls him out of his misery.
Starting point is 01:40:42 It's an entertainment conference. Entertainment company? Conference, the Revolt Conference. Yeah. It was owned by Sean Combs, correct? Correct. Eventually, Donaldson leads up to the idea that perhaps Deontay was the one that sent Cassie a picture of Combs to show that he was with Gina while she was in South Africa, and Deontay responds, oh no no no no. You're not putting this on me. That was another stylist named Icon Tips that texted her and said, Oh girl, you look good coming out the car.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And she called me and told me, girl, is that girl Gina there? So Icon Tips thought it was Cassie coming out the car, but it was Gina. At that point, the jurors, the press, nobody can even try to keep a professional face. Everybody's grinning. The press don't even really know what to write at all. There's just lots of rustling, even Diddy looks confused of like, I don't know what my reaction is supposed to be, he's just blinking. And so you told her at this point in time, listen, I could hook you up with Michael B. Jordan, correct? Mm-mm-mm. No, that wasn't you? No, that's not how it happened. So you
Starting point is 01:41:41 said that you set her up with Michael B. Jordan, correct? Yeah, but that's not how that happened. At this point, Combs' close childhood friend, who is like one pew diagonal from us, in front of us, he starts mouthing kind of comically to no one in particular like, what? And he's like looking around. I'm like, I don't know either, sir. You tell me. At one point Donaldson calls Michael B. Jordan Michael Jordan and Deontay snaps Michael B. Jordan not Michael Jordan. Yeah, you want to get that right? Donaldson goes on to ask about others that Cassie might have had a relationship with and this is supposed to be a moment Where it's like see Jers see Cassie is having all of these relationships. She's not coerced into anything. Look at her cheating on combs
Starting point is 01:42:26 It's just a toxic relationship. Cassie was in a relationship with Andre branch Deontay looks confused and then he responds. Ah the cute football player Everyone starts giggling and one of the jurors is chewing on their pen tip Like this is the best thing I've heard in the whole world like the best tea I've heard in the whole world Yes, the cute football player, yes. Oh yeah, but I never met him. But you were aware that Cassie was in a relationship with Andre Branch, correct?
Starting point is 01:42:52 Yeah. Are you also, are you aware of a person named Brandon from the NFL? No. Combs wrinkles his eyebrows and starts writing on a post-it that is now going to be teleported through the attorneys to Donaldson at the lectern but before it gets there Donaldson corrects himself. I'm sorry NBA NBA not NFL NBA. Still no. Still no? No.
Starting point is 01:43:14 A few other notable moments Donaldson tries to build this picture where whenever Cassie would get mad at Sean Combs for him cheating on her she would also go out and party like a wild party, but Deontay's not having it. Not necessarily, she and I are both super chill, we spent a lot of time at home to be quite honest. He brings up a text message, Donaldson does. But Deontay texts her, but when you said, girl, let's go out and do our thing, Deontay says no boo, nothing crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:41 That's like going to no boo. Yeah. Donaldson brings up text messages where Deontay asks Cassie, what are you doing? Cassie responds about to go out of town for a couple of days getting my stuff together. Where are you going? Secret trip lol Donaldson has Deontay read out each message that he sent Cassie and then Cassie responds secret trip lol Deontay leans into the mic to read his full message that we also see on this screen and it just reads girl and he says it like that and then everyone is just like Suppressing their giggles in the courtroom because everyone is stressed and like it is kind of funny
Starting point is 01:44:17 The jurors are reading these text messages like they're like moving around in their chair biting their pen tip like this is YouTube drama They're like moving around in their chair biting their pen tip like this is YouTube drama. That's the energy during this testimony because of how insane the back and forth between Donaldson and Deontay is. The jurors are not even trying to suppress smiles. Even the judge is smiling at that. And then he adjusts his glasses and he is no longer smiling because justice is not light and there is a lot of weight on his shoulders.
Starting point is 01:44:42 But Donaldson is a very serious man here. He says, so when she says... So Donaldson has never giggled. No, and that's like, this is why I think the defense attorneys, like I go back and forth because in some respects, yes, I do think that everyone deserves a fair trial. I think that is the right. And I think anyone that represents a client should fight with their full heart and chest. However, I
Starting point is 01:45:09 think okay well if I was a defense attorney and I was already making money because I'm a good one because these are top dogs in their field, would I take on certain clients? Would I be a little more choosy with who I take on as clients? Maybe because there were other attorneys that turned down Diddy. So then I go back and forth but then sometimes like the way I see them they're so passionate and they never giggle. I'm like I get confused. Do these people just believe everything they say? Like that's how I feel about Mark Agnifilo, Brian Steele, and Donaldson. Like they have this way about
Starting point is 01:45:39 them where I'm like no but like we're all giggling because you can't be serious but then I look at you and you look so serious. So now I'm confused. Like I thought you were playing into something, but then I look at you and you're so serious. Like you're saying this with your full chest. Like Mark Agnifilo is like, he went to Costco because Americans buy in bulk and so he bought baby oil in bulk. And then when I first heard that, I thought he was crazy. When I see him in person, I'm like, I think he genuinely believes this.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I think Diddy told him that, and he's like, yeah. I could be wrong, I could be so naive. And she's going on a secret trip somewhere, correct? Correct. And she didn't tell you where she was going, correct? No. Because she didn't want you to know where she was going, correct?
Starting point is 01:46:24 Probably didn't want to text it. Well, you didn't call her back and say, what's the secret trip, where to know where she was going, correct? Probably didn't want to text it. Well, you didn't call her back and say, what's the secret trip? Where are you going? Etc. Correct? I may have, or she may have told me, good friends don't really pry like that. You know what I mean? To which a lot of the jurors look like they're agreeing with Deontay.
Starting point is 01:46:38 What do you mean, agree with Deontay? Like a lot of them are, a few of them are kind of looking up and it's almost like they're stopping themselves from a nod This is like that makes sense Yeah throughout a lot of the testimony combs from goes from glancing at Donaldson to blinking non-stop and eventually the cross just becomes so long that He just starts looking at the clock which is right on the wall behind the press pews there were other parts of the cross that were just Again, I get what the defense is doing,
Starting point is 01:47:05 but it just keeps backfiring. For example, Donaldson brings up another text message thread where Deonte gets a picture from Cassie, a selfie, where he responds, that mug beat though. Donaldson has to quickly clarify. When you say beat, you mean beat. Between you and Cassie means good.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Like your makeup is beat, nice, right? So you were telling her, at that point in March of 2019, her face looked beat. Nice right correct which like the fact that you have to clarify that because your clients actions on hotel footage it's probably like whatever impact the rest of the text messages had nothing compared to that point another text message exhibit shows Cassie texting Deontay that she wants to be different this year and she says, Puff is mad at me of course.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Deontay responds, y'all need to enjoy y'all trip, get back to the bullshit later, enjoy y'all time together, y'all don't get this much. Cassie responds, it's not bull, this is the bitch I'm gonna be this year, he can stay or go. And as this is being read out by Donaldson, Deontay smiles and comments into the mic, That's right Cass and like a few of the jurors are smiling because Again, I think Cassie's testimony might have been a bit more polarizing just looking and perceiving at the jurors But you can't hate a bestie that just got your back no matter what yeah
Starting point is 01:48:22 And it's like you just want a friend like that and then it's like when you know that Cassie has this everyone seems to rally around her it's like okay you know it just adds a little bit more weight. Yeah. I would think. Then later in the same text thread Deontay texts Cassie again, you look beat what's your tea? Donaldson has to clarify once more when you say you look beat that means you're referring to the pictures that she just sent you where she looks really good in the pictures, correct? Oh, yeah again, not the best look for the defense, which I get it weird argument But okay the point of the whole text though is this part where Deontay texts Cassie girl You always on vacation to which Cassie responds
Starting point is 01:49:01 I know God lets me because I put up with a lot of BS Basically trying to show the jurors that Cassie was in a relationship with a clear exchange. She was also getting something out of it. However, again, that kind of clarification of the face looks beat, the impact is kind of lost. In another part of the cross, Donaldson clarifies, I believe you said in 2013 outside Cassie's apartment, he told Cassie in front of you that he would leak her videos, is that right?
Starting point is 01:49:23 And I think this is the same conversation where he said to you you and Cassie take a broke ass home and ride to the sunset yes you and Cassie went back home after that correct what do you mean you went back after he said take your broke ass home you and Cassie left correct yeah we rode out into the sunset I don't know what the whole point of that one was either in another We rode out into the sunset. Yo, what is going on? I don't know what the whole point of that one was either. In another moment, Donaldson brings up the 29th birthday party for Cassie with his main question being, if you had seen Sean Combs being violent towards Cassie, your best friend,
Starting point is 01:49:57 why would you still want him to come surprise her for her birthday? He then called you when you were at the restaurant and said he was coming over, correct? No, he was there when we got there. He was in Miami. He called me from Miami and asked if he should fly and come. Sorry, he called you from Miami and asked if he should fly back from Miami to come and attend this birthday party. Correct. He flew up from Miami to attend the birthday party, correct? Correct. Did you tell Cassie who's coming? No. Because you want Cassie to be surprised by her boyfriend who is coming up to see her for the birthday party, correct? Who wants to be the person that tells somebody the surprise?
Starting point is 01:50:30 Which again, almost everyone is kind of nodding because it's like I get what Donaldson is trying to say Like if you saw him be so violent and so terrifying, why would you want him to come to her birthday? Also at the same time like Deontay has a very fair point But the defense does what the defense has been doing, which is showing messages between Deontay and Combs from the past few years where Deontay is nice to Combs, which I feel like in the direct he was pretty straight up about it. One message is from 2019, so this is after the breakup, after Cassie starts dating Alex Fine.
Starting point is 01:51:01 It's from Deontay to Combs, sending him my love. Combs respond yeah right we was fam disappointed still got love all good wait Combs said that we were family yeah I'm disappointed but I still got love for you we're all good okay and so Deontay responds uh-uh puff don't do that my love for you don't have nothing to do with anything else." Combs responds to Deontay, nah. The trainer, the trainer in my soldier boy voice, damn, could have given a heads up. The trainer, question mark, shaking my head. And then there's laughing emojis. And then there's no response. Sobs text the anti back again on now you quiet will always be cool no love lost love you girl black heart emoji but on a real note how is she
Starting point is 01:51:52 please make sure she's alright and if she ever needs me make sure you call me then another message in which dante asks to see the full message is there a way I can see the whole message not sorry I'm not just being with the business just the evidence we have right now that's dot outside his dante read the message to combs i love you brother and anything you need i got you but the main point being cassey never told the onto about not wanting to do
Starting point is 01:52:15 freak-offs and all this was happening behind the scenes and the onto is still talking to comes with love you deeply care for cassey cracked and you deeply cared for her for about 15 years, correct? Correct. But you understand though, for a significant part of that time, she kept major secrets from you. I kept some from her. We don't have to tell each other everything. But you do acknowledge she kept major secrets from you, correct? Same. Correct, yes? Okay. And I don't know if it's just the way the line of questioning took place in Unraveled. It kind of made Cassie's story sadder.
Starting point is 01:52:52 It didn't feel like she's hiding this from you because she loves it. It just kind of felt like she couldn't even tell her best friend. And then she had to tell the world. So it's just kind of sad. Like that was the feeling feeling like it didn't give what I think they wanted it to give In the redirect prosecutor Comey brings it home Why did you always have concerns for Cassie safety if she also told you that she was happy at times with mr Combs because it can go from happy to chaotic in a split second And when it went from happy to chaotic in front of you what had you seen happen? him be violent. what did you hear him say at Cassie's
Starting point is 01:53:28 apartment that Cassie was going to do that night on her birthday? your girl you're gonna get some dick tonight. what did Cassie tell you the same night about whether she wanted to go with mr. combs to a hotel? she didn't want to go she wanted to hang out with us and with with that, there is no recross. So, Komi is really good at just like boom boom boom boom boom and then just clears it up. Komi is incredibly sharp. I think she's like the way she communicates is insane. I think she could teach 25 master classes on communication. She's effective. She's to the point. She knows exactly what the jurors need to hear afterwards.
Starting point is 01:54:06 I don't know how she does it. I think I don't even know if this is something you can teach people. Wow. And with that there is no recross and Deontay Nash is dismissed. On his way out, he passes Xavier Donaldson at the defense table and he leans down and he whispers something with a smile. We couldn't hear it, but I imagine because my researcher and I were like okay the vibe the vibe is this well that was fun let's do it again sometime like that if I had to bet money I would bet $10 it was that like that's the vibe the whole cross was giving it's like this very sarcastic like I'm not gonna be
Starting point is 01:54:42 rude to you but I don't like you. And Cassie's my best friend. Wow. And with that, he walks away. He ate it up. He ate... the jurors loved him. Wow. Yeah, I don't know if they loved everything he was saying, but they were having a blast. And I think it's like only natural if someone's making you laugh that frequently.
Starting point is 01:55:01 You generally have a positive feeling towards them. Was there a lot of like auditory? Yes. Like wow. This was probably the most giggly day like everyone was just giggling and it was just non-stop. Yeah but it is probably the last light day that we are going to have because the next episode you'll see will be likely a mixture of
Starting point is 01:55:23 Mia the second victim as well as Jane the third victim that is going to take the stand probably the day that you see this so I will be in the courtroom while you're watching this and I'll let you know how it goes. So with that being said, please stay safe and I will see you in the next one.

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