rSlash - r/Offmychest My Son & Daughter are In Love

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

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Welcome to r slash off my chest where two siblings might have fallen in love with each other and I gotta preface this story. This entire video is going to be just one single story with a lot of updates and it's got tons of twists and turns. It's super juicy. However, I gotta warn you guys, OP really likes to talk. This is a long, long story. If I read every single word that she wrote, this would honest to God be like a two and

a half hour long video. So for the sake of everyone's sanity, I've got to cut out a lot of paragraphs just because there's a lot of like filler that's not really super relevant to the story. And I know a lot of people hate when I do that, but trust me on this one, this story needs to be edited down. I'm cutting out about half of the story, which is OP basically just talking to herself. Our next Reddit post is from Psychfactor. I think my husband fathered his best friend's children and now one of them is attracted to my daughter.

This began as a dark intrusive thought that I could never shake off. And over the years it's bloomed into a poison flower that infects my entire psyche. I'm a 42 year old woman. My husband, Luke, is 43, and so is Amy. I met Luke in college, but he's known Amy since they were about 7. They did everything together and understood each other implicitly. They were best friends. They've always insisted that they're surrogate siblings to each other.

Naturally, I, as a new girlfriend, felt a little threatened by Amy and her closeness to Luke, but they both reassured me that I had nothing to worry about. That their bond wasn't romantic and had never been sexual. That Amy really was just a sister that Luke never had. I believed them and it didn't take long for me to forget any and all insecurity I had about Amy. She became my friend too. She officiated our wedding.

Luke and I have built a wonderful life together and we've always had a strong relationship. After we got married and moved in together, we still saw a lot of Amy and I was fine with that. I've spent many nights out on the town trying to help Amy find a man, as she's always lamented how she's unlucky in love. Luke and I started to have children after we were married, and at around the same point, so did Amy. For context, these are my kids.

Sophie who's 15, Owen who's 12, Luis who's 10, and Carter who's 6. Amy's children include Tom who's 17, Kaylee who's 14, and then twins Adam and Jenna who are 9. Now, Amy wasn't in a relationship at this point. She wasn't married. As far as I knew, she was dating, but not consistently. As Luke and I had more kids and our family grew, periodically Amy would find herself pregnant as well.

It happened a few times, and Luke and I never knew anything about the fathers in question. I kind of assumed that maybe Amy was sleeping around and not keeping in contact with her one night stance. Luke agreed that this was probably the answer. While I did ask each time if Amy knew the paternity, she always said no and she didn't seem that worried about the idea of raising kids on her own, so I didn't pester her. Of course, she had us to support her, so there's that. While Amy never asked for any help, of course, Luke was never going to let his best friend

struggle to stay afloat while she had children to raise. Financially, me and my husband are very fortunate and privileged. I have a job that pays handsomely, and Luke also has wealthy parents who already knew and loved Amy, so they were happy to provide for her. So we were able to support Amy to get her somewhere to stay with her kids. People might be tempted to call Amy a leech, but I never saw it that way. None of us did.

She needed help and we could provide it. Of course, since Amy and Luke have been best friends since they were kids, it's not unreasonable that sometimes they hang out together when I'm not there. Hey, that's fine. Sometimes I hang out with Amy one on one as well, though Luke doesn't more. She was his friend first. This included him going over to her place and, at times, sleeping over there. OP, come on!

Was I a fool to trust him and believe nothing was going on? Perhaps. But for years, they presented as being buddies. YEAH! F*** buddies OP! They acted like siblings. I didn't pick up on any vibes between them, not ever. As one can expect, our children were brought up together, but not in the same house.

We made sure that Amy's children met ours from a young age, and they always got along, and strong bonds of friendship formed over the years, which is good. It's especially good if I'm right, and they all share blood. Anyways, I've come to suspect that Luke fathered at least one of Amy's kids, if not all of them. Frankly, I suspect they're all his kids. I would have never believed my husband to be capable of such a thing, and he's given me no indication that he's the unfaithful sort. But he does spend a lot of time with Amy, and I have to confess, I can't remember seeing her with any real boyfriend over the years. She would talk to men at bars and parties, and I would try to be her wingman and so on. But nothing ever seemed to really happen, so when she got pregnant the first time, I

was curious. When it happened again and again, I began to wonder if she had some sort of secret fella who she didn't want us to know about for whatever reason. But I couldn't think of any reason why she'd hide him, especially from her children. After Carter, our youngest child, was born, Luke and I agreed that the time had come for him to have a vasectomy. Amy's twins had come just a couple of years prior. Interestingly, Amy never got pregnant again after the twins.

Is it a coincidence that Luke had a vasectomy and then both of us stopped getting pregnant? I don't know, but Luke would still visit her and he wasn't just going to see her, but checking up on her kids as well. In general, I should have paid more attention to it sooner, but Luke has always acted like a father to them, especially as they've gotten older. He's the father they've never had. He doesn't neglect me or our children not one bit. He's doing double duty.

On its own, the idea that he's a surrogate father to Amy's fatherless children isn't inherently suspicious. One could call it noble, but it combines with a lot of other little things. There's appearance as well. Suffice to say, Amy's kids certainly look like they could be Luke's kids. Kaylee also has a very unusual allergy that Luke also has. The twins also look very much like Adam. The older Tom has gotten, the more of Luke I can see in his face and personality. While race doesn't matter, the reality is that Luke is a different race than Amy, and Amy's children all look biracial. I could believe that their father is the same race as Luke, but that doesn't mean Luke

has to be the father, but it sure seems like it. I've always worried and tried to dismiss it, except now I'm very afraid, because in the last few months we've had a new development in our kid's social circle. Tom, Amy's oldest child, asked out Sophie, my oldest child. Sophie has really blossomed over these last few years and has become quite the outspoken beauty. So I'm not shocked to see that she's getting male attention. But Tom asking her out threw me for a loop.

Sophie said no, but only because I'm quite protective when it comes to her exploring dating and she knew that she would have to ask me first. I could tell that she was flattered and intrigued by his interest and she wanted to say yes. She approached me to talk to me about it. Plus my girl, she did everything right. I think she expected that I would see things her way and agree that she could date Tom. Much to her surprise, I very firmly said no. That caused a bit of conflict. She didn't even want to date him that badly. She just couldn't

understand why she wasn't allowed to, and I couldn't explain it to her. All I could come up with was, he's too old for you. Which he is, but it's not really about that. When Amy and Luke heard the news, I was very curious to see what their reaction would be. If either of them agreed with Sophie and tried to convince me that the two of them should be allowed to date, I think I would have been relieved, and I would have taken that as proof that I was wrong about something going on between them. But the ambiguity continued because they both took my side. They both put their foot down, though not

as fiercely as I did. Luke agreed with me, but he also worried that trying to forbid such a romance would only make Sophie want it more. He's probably right about that. Amy seemed more apathetic to the idea. She didn't want Tom to date Sophie either, and she did back me up, but I don't know, she just wasn't taking it seriously. She seemed to think that it was a fleeting crush. In the months following, Tom would spend more and more time with Sophie. They would be alone or with their other friends anytime they possibly could. It's become abundantly clear that Tom is crazy about Sophie and wants to be with her,

and he definitely wants to be physical. I've been watching them like a hawk and noticed his eye wandering many times. And while I'm doing everything I can to kill this budding romance, I'm also feeling somewhat powerless. Sophie hasn't outwardly defied me, but she's still hanging out with Tom as friends. So forcing them to stop spending time together would be unreasonable and probably encourage more sneaking around. But I'm so afraid that they're already doing that. My nightmare is that they're secretly dating and doing god knows what when no one is looking.

I've observed Tom being rather handsy with Sophie and she presents no objection whatsoever. So basically, Luke's son wants to screw our daughter his actual sister because as far as he knows, she's just his childhood friend. And it's all Luke and Amy's fault for what they've done. If I speak up, everything gets blown to hell. On the off chance that I'm wrong, I'm a horrible monster who accused the love of my life and one of my closest friends of doing something horrible If I'm right, it still tears our entire structure apart

the family and social unit that we've become over the last several years is gone and Everyone will be stressed and upset even if Luke and I don't divorce if I do nothing Sophie is eventually going to screw Tom and be his girlfriend. Which might already be happening. I hope to hell this relationship fades as they mature, but what if it doesn't? What if they wind up being together for years? What if they marry and get pregnant someday? If I tell Sophie the truth about Amy's kids, then everyone else finds out too, and that's

going to ruin so many lives. It would shatter my kids' perception of their father and their aunt Amy. Luke is Owen's hero. I don't even want to think about how much this would hurt him. And what about Amy's other kids? They're innocent. They didn't ask for this, they don't control where they came from, and I don't want to hurt them. Admittedly, I'm not happy with Tom at the moment. A week ago, I saw him put his hand on Sophie's butt and I wanted to knock his teeth out. But even he doesn't deserve to be burdened by the knowledge that it's his half-sister he's been fantasizing about.

OP, what I think you should do here, and people are probably going to say this is kind of a scummy thing to do, and yeah, I admit it is kind of scummy. However, this is the only solution I can think of that doesn't immediately drop a nuclear missile on both of these families. That is to submit a DNA test of either your husband or your daughter along with a DNA test of Tom. And yeah, getting a DNA sample of Tom might be kind of difficult, but spit will do. So you can just say, hey, Tom, come here.

Let me talk to you in the kitchen here, have a glass of water. And then after he takes a sip, you swab the rim of the glass and submit that as a sample. It would take a little bit of subtlety, but it'd be doable. Anyways, do the DNA test. If it comes back that they're not related, then great.

If it comes back that they are not related, then great. If it comes back that they are related, then you have rock solid evidence and can move forward accordingly. The one thing you can definitely not do is sit on your hands and keep your mouth shut. Because as a mother, you have a responsibility to protect your daughter. And one thing you cannot let your daughter do

is get knocked up by her half brother. Please do not let that happen, OP. I know you're scared about consequences and blowing up family dynamics, but yo, you cannot let that happen. That is horrifying to both your daughter and Tom and honestly everyone in the situation. Do you guys have guesses? My guess is, mmm, this is feeling kind of fishy. I would not be surprised if these are half siblings. Then three days later, OP posted an update. So I ended up confronting Luke and Amy.

Many comments suggested this as well. I finally told both of them that we needed to have a serious talk. It felt counterproductive to approach just one of them because I figured they would tell the other about what happened in their own words before I could prepare my own. I wanted them both to hear what I had to say. Once all the kids were at school, I laid down all of my suspicions and the reasons. I made it clear how much I love both of them, but a combination of clues has led me to notice the similarities between Luke and Amy's children.

And I didn't even list all of them in the original post. Well, they reacted exactly as I would have expected. Their responses were perfect and so very well rehearsed. I genuinely can't tell if it was honest emotion or powerful gaslighting. Amy was more upset than Luke, or at least more outwardly upset. She was angry, offended at the accusation. Luke just seemed heartbroken by it. Maybe they were just acting, but I don't know. Somehow, they had reasonable responses to all the points that I brought up. They asked questions that I didn't know how to answer. That I'd never objected to them having a long time before, so why did it suddenly bother

me now? Do Amy's children really resemble Luke that much or are things like hair color pretty basic traits to have in common? The whole family had always treated Amy and her kids as part of our unit and I'd previously commended Luke for stepping up and being a father to Amy's kids since they didn't have one. Why was I now saying that it was a bad thing? What exactly did I want them to do? How could I think such a thing about them? Why had I waited so long to say anything? Luke was more understanding than Amy. He respected my feelings or at least he acted like he did.

Amy appeared to feel more betrayed by what I said. I ended up apologizing several times, even though I'm not sure if I did anything wrong. Luke also apologized for anything he'd done to indicate that he was unfaithful. I asked Amy more pointedly that if it wasn't Luke, then who had fathered her children? She snapped back that it was none of my business and I could tell that she was in no mood to get personal or vulnerable with me after my accusations. I'm not proud to say that I lost my temper and said that after everything we'd done for her and her kids, such information wasn't a lot to ask for, and perhaps she owed it

to us. I regretted those words as soon as I said them, but Amy shouted back that I had actually never done anything for her, and it was Luke and his parents who kept her afloat all these years, not me. She went on this long tirade about how I'd always acted superior to her, which I don't believe I did, though it is possible that I gave off that vibe unintentionally. Luke did his best to calm her down, but the room was still fraught with tension. I asked Luke, for my own peace of mind, for the sake of our daughter

and for our family unit, if he could please get a DNA test done. A paternity test. I went on to say that I knew he disliked and distrusted these things, but that I really needed this. I could see the pain in Luke's eyes. Maybe it was an act, but he did seem genuinely hurt that I was asking for this. That him giving me his word that he had always been faithful wasn't enough for me. But he very reluctantly agreed to participate in a DNA test. Unfortunately,

Amy did not and that's where we hit a roadblock. I was afraid of this. But Amy was infuriated at the whole concept and told me in no uncertain terms that I would not be getting samples of her kid's DNA and basically told me to F off for asking. Several times in several variations. I pressed Luke and honestly he was a bit useless but probably right. He tried to convince Amy but she wouldn't hear of it and he kind of shrugged to me when I pushed him for further support. Because he can't force her to get the test done. If she refuses, then that really is a dead end.

Trust me, it is. I looked into this quite a bit and consulted with my lawyer. I pestered them further about Tom and Sophie dating. I insisted that I didn't want them dating. Luke agreed and apparently Amy also still agrees. Luke plans to have a talk with Tom and activated protective Papa Bear mode. Among other things, he's going to remind Tom that in a couple of months when he turns 18, him being intimate with Sophie will literally be a crime. I wouldn't actually press charges against him, as I know that he would never do anything against Sophie's will. But I'm not above implying the threat.

Thankfully Luke isn't either. I did ask my husband if he'd be open to potentially swiping a sample of Tom's DNA to do a private paternity test, but he was very hesitant about the idea. Like me, he saw it as unethical. He also pointed out that if he were to do this and Amy found out, it would mean the end of our friendship with her, most likely. The way things are, Luke believes that it's still salvageable where Amy and I could reconcile and become friends again, and I can see how much he wants this to happen.

But if I did a DNA test on Tom behind Amy's back and she found out, I think she would hit the roof and I wouldn't entirely blame her. Though I would be very interested to see the results. Luke ended up going to see Amy and spent the night. OP! You can't be this dense! I know all of you are cringing and throwing up your hands. Yeah, no kidding. And trust me, I wasn't happy about it. That was a very long conversation. But he was adamant that he needed to perform damage control. So they spent the night together. Luke maintained that nothing happened. I didn't sleep a wink and I kept texting him for updates. As far as I can tell, Amy will cool off, but she needs a little time. Eventually,

me and my husband agreed to take our kids to his parents place. His parents' names are Jim and Kat. When they took notice of how distant Luke and I were from each other, I finally relented and confessed my fears. I told them of my anxiety that Amy and Luke were having an affair and that Amy's children might be his. Here's where things get a little interesting. When I told them what I was feeling, Kat just gave Jim this pointed look and did a big dramatic sigh. So it turns out Kat has had similar suspicions as mine and genuinely suspected over the years that Luke and Amy were closer than they would ever admit. That they had crossed the line in the past. Jim, on the other hand, simply refuses to even consider the idea.

He always insisted that Cat is seeing things that aren't there. He maintains that Luke and Amy are like siblings and they would never do such a thing. Cat thinks that his stance on this is naive and that even if she and Jim had taken Amy in and loved her like a daughter, that didn't mean that Luke viewed her like a sister and that she viewed him like a brother. I could tell that he and Kat have already had this conversation before and they just kept going in circles with Kat getting exasperated. Then OP ends the update by saying that the kids are doing okay and the story that the

adults told the kids is that OP and Amy had a fight and they're taking a break from each other. Then, two days later, OP posted an update. Ultimately, I decided that I had to warn Sophie about the situation and to do so immediately. So I discreetly kept my daughter Sophie out of school. I told her that we had to talk. Always a frightening thing for a teenager to hear from a parent, but I was quick to establish that she wasn't in trouble. But she needed to know the truth about why Amy and I were fighting, and why

her dating Tom was out of the question. I very gently explained that because of Luke's closeness to Amy and Tom's resemblance to him, I had come to suspect that perhaps Luke and Amy were intimate at some point over the years. If that was true and there was any chance that Tom's father was actually Luke, that would be a significant problem. Sophie was quiet during all of this and even after I stopped talking to let her respond, she paused for quite a while before she finally said that we needed to get Tom and discuss this with him as well. I had no objections so she texted him to meet with us. They're both skipping school today, but Sophie gets straight A's and this is extremely important, so I looked the other way. Tom came to meet us and Sophie

had me relay what I told her to him as well. I apologized to him for any indication that I might have given that I didn't think that he was good enough for my daughter and to both of them for not telling the truth sooner. Then Tom and Sophie just gave each other this oddly knowing stare. And reddits? That's when they blew my mind. They revealed to me that, in fact, they'd already known about Luke and Amy, or at least they strongly suspected.

Apparently, Tom has overheard conversations that are questionable, as well as overhearing the sounds of lovemaking from Amy's room, sounds that he would just as soon forget. But all the signs point to the fact that Luke is Amy's lover. Tom has wondered this for a very long time, and back in January, he finally voiced his fears to Sophie. She agreed with his fears. She could also see a strange sort of closeness between her father and his mother. They agreed that Luke was likely having an affair. They agreed that because of Kaylee's allergy, Luke might very well be her father. And if Kaylee was Luke's daughter, the rest of Tom's siblings could be Luke's as well.

Tom could be Luke's as well. Tom could be Luke's kid. The math led them to the same places as me. So Sophie and Tom came up with a little plan. As it turns out, they're not in love. They never were. They're still just best friends. But they had the same instinct as me, that they didn't want to blow up our entire family

and social unit without more direct evidence. And though Sophie very badly wanted to tell me the truth, she was hesitant because she knew that it would shatter me. She had no idea that I was already suffering in silence. Sophie apologized for not voicing her suspicions sooner. Honestly, we both cried, and I made sure she understood that none of this was her fault and that I loved her very much. So the bottom line is, Sophie and Tom already know that they could be half siblings and aren't

actually interested in being a couple. That this was their idea for how to rock the boat. To force Luke and Amy to do something about the situation rather than just keep making a fool out of me. I also think that it was their way of punishing their parents for their affair. Luke and Amy to do something about the situation rather than just keep making a fool out of me. I also think that it was their way of punishing their parents for their affair. Teenagers can be vindictive. So they concocted this idea that they would pretend date.

Every flirtation I've witnessed, every inappropriate touch, all staged, apparently, for the benefit of Luke, Amy, or both. This was supposed to make them sweat, and Sophie and Tom expected they would jump out of their seats to forbid this from happening. When I was the one who did this instead, this kind of threw the kids for a loop. They couldn't understand why I cared more than the actual cheaters. Yo, this story, honest to God, it's like a mystery novel with plot twists and the villain is actually the good guy and the guy is actually the bad guy

and the murder actually killed himself and then made it look like a murder. This is super complicated. They began to suspect that maybe I knew. Tom confronting me that one time about why can't he date Sophie was him trying to gauge if I knew or not. Honestly, I'm just so relieved they're not dating. We even had a bit of a laugh together when Tom mentioned how he'd been a little offended that I was so against him dating my daughter before. I kind of jokingly asked him,

So you don't think she's gorgeous? And Tom, bless his heart, shrugged it off. He said, She is, but so is my English teacher and I'm not asking her out either. So where do we go from here? Tom has already volunteered to submit his DNA so I can compare it to Luke's and both he and Sophie advise me not to tell Luke and Amy when I do this, which I agree with. They're both completely on my side, which means more to me than I can ever express to them.

Tom has also been trying to set up a camera in his own mother's room to catch her and Luke in the act. Gross. Sophie told me flat out that I need to divorce her dad and hearing that from my own daughter made it clearer than it has ever been. She's right. Yo guys, this story is gripping. There are two more very long updates. So we're like halfway through guys. Buckle up, I guess. Then, two days later, OP posted an update. So, first things first, but our little team has supposedly recruited my mother-in-law. I say supposedly because Sophie and Tom were going to talk to her about getting help with submitting the DNA test and at the advice of my lawyer, I'm staying out of the process.

Officially, I told Sophie not to do it and she said that she wouldn't. Oh, that's right! Because they can test the DNA against the grandma, right? If the mother-in-law is the grandma, oh, that's clever, clever, clever, clever. My mother-in-law hasn't contacted me about it either. The bottom line is I can honestly say that I have no knowledge of any DNA test. Loopholes City. Another bit of good news. After digging through some paperwork, I found out that my name is on the paperwork for our home and Luke's isn't. I was the one who bought the house and we always planned to add Luke's name to the house, but we never got around to it, and eventually we forgot.

It was my lawyer, Paige, who pointed this out to me, and that was like finding a winning lottery ticket on the ground. I don't know where I'd be without Paige. So the last time I looked through Luke's phone was three months ago, around the point that Sophie and Tom began to go around claiming they wanted to date. I didn't find anything. However, Redditors taught me some clever tricks to find recently deleted messages. So when Luke was asleep, I did just that. I

swiped through his phone and checked through deleted messages. I'm glad I did, but I also wished that I hadn't because I'm reeling from the pain. Sure enough, a conversation with Amy had been deleted. There were recent texts talking about the conflict between her and me, with Amy describing me as a problem and Luke trying to pacify her, without defending me at all to be clear. They both alluded to how they'd expected this for a while and just hoped that it would never happen, presumably me accusing them of having an affair. The whole conversation and the fact that it was deleted was sketchy but nothing was actually

admitted. So I scrolled a bit higher to a few days before the fight and Amy's messages got a bit more flirty. Then I saw it. Five days before I confronted them, Amy had sent Luke a topless picture. A selfie with no shirt or bra. Guys, I teared up. I knew that it was true. I knew it in my bones, but seeing the proof still cut me like a hot knife. It doesn't help that Amy's always had bigger breasts than me. I exited the message app and checked Luke's recently deleted photos. Sure enough, the same selfie was there.

And others. Amy topless, Amy naked, Amy in various poses to show off. There were pictures of the two of them together, cuddled and pressed close like a couple. In some of these, she was naked. In some, they both were. There were videos. Amy sent Luke a message of herself topless, and I had to actually hear her voice talking to him in a tone that made me sick about how she was sending him a quick video to help

him get through the day. In more than one video, she called him her boo, and hearing her call him that, I almost vomited. Then, I had a strange compulsion to keep searching which led me to check Luke's laptop. I knew enough of his passwords to access his iCloud storage. And yeah, basically more of the same. There were letters, long letters between them. I didn't have the heart to read past the first few lines of one of them, but I did

read Luke mention our children. There were countless naked and topless selfies of Amy. Selfies of them together. Videos where Amy appeared to be pleasuring herself. There were sex tapes. I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled. There were so many. Going back years.

Not all of it was even sexual. There were some photos of Amy's kids too. One video was of Kaylee and the twins playing together when they were younger. And Luke and Amy's voices from behind the camera. There were even old pictures of Luke and Amy from when they were younger. I snapped! All these years I'd been telling myself that I had to be wrong, that it couldn't be true. Well, it was true.

I know that no one forced me to look at all that evidence, but I'm still hurting very badly from having seen it in that moment, and I wanted to act. So I did. I called my lawyer. I asked her to draw up the paperwork and have it ready. She told me that she'd already had it ready since I first reached out to her. As I waited for her, I went through the necessary channels on Luke's laptop to make sure that he wouldn't be able to remotely disconnect our access to his little stash. I changed his passwords and all that.

My lawyer arrived and I went outside to greet her in the car. I spent a good half hour in the passenger seat just crying and she was great about that. Then I passed her Luke's phone and his laptop with all the information she needed to use them. She warned me that this could be considered theft. So I asked her to forward and print out copies of everything she could and then bring the items back because I just couldn't bear to do it myself. She agreed. I then went back inside and I packed up Luke's things while the house slept. At one point, Owen got up to use the bathroom and asked me what I was doing, but I told him I was just cleaning. I packed all of his things into trash bags and loaded up his car.

That's when I woke him up and told him to come outside. He was confused and half asleep, but he did notice things were missing. I ignored his questions and just told him to come with me. So he followed me outside. Once we were by the car, I pulled out the divorce papers and officially handed them to him. That's when he figured out what I was doing and he tried to talk me out of it. He tried to be sweet with me, to be tender.

He kept insisting that he loved me and that there had never been anything with Amy. He kept trying to persuade me not to tear our family apart. Even two weeks ago, I might have wilted under this because the manipulation and gaslighting were truly masterclass, but I could see through it now. I didn't tell him that I knew that he was full of BS. I didn't tell him what I'd seen. I just told him that we were finished. He tried a different approach. He refused to go. He firmly stated that our children were his too and that if we're separating, I had no right to just decide the kids would stay with me over him.

That's when I very coldly presented the paperwork reminding him that the house is in my name and I told him under no circumstances would the kids be staying with Amy. He argued a while longer, but in the end, he decided to be the bigger person and keep the peace. At the moment, I didn't care where he went. Before he left, he did ask about his phone and laptop, and I waved him off by saying they were in one of the bags. That bought a little more time.

I couldn't sleep for the rest of that night. I cried more. Eventually, I realized that I would have to wake my children up early and explain to the extent that I could. Naturally, I woke Sophie first. I told her that I had kicked her father out and that I had discovered evidence of an affair on his devices. I didn't specify what kind of evidence and she didn't ask. I woke up the others and gently told them that their dad had gone to stay somewhere else for a little while. That I wasn't sure where, but from now on things were going to be different. Luis was the one to ask if we were getting divorced, and I couldn't lie to her.

I told her yes. Owen asked when they could see their father again, and I wanted to cry. Sophie was a big help, urging her siblings to be sympathetic to me right now and to worry about dad later. I knew better than to poison them against their father, so I only told Sophie that the affair was confirmed since she already had been in the know. However, as the kids were getting ready for school, Owen approached me and asked me point blank if this was about Amy. If Luke was going to be with her instead of with me. I couldn't answer, but I suppose that's an answer on its own.

After I took them to school, my lawyer showed up to say that she had done everything. And then, sure enough, Luke turned up an hour later demanding to know where his laptop and phone were. I had put them back in our bedroom like they had never moved, and I just told him that he had forgotten them. He insisted that I had said they were in one of the bags. So I just shrugged him off and told him I must have been mistaken. After he grabbed them, he tried to reason with me, but I just showed him the door. I talked to my mother-in-law that night. Apparently, Luke did show up to his parents' house, which was a surprise as I was certain that he would stay with Amy. But maybe even he knows how suspicious that would look to the kids and he doesn't want to rock the boat that much. Cat already shared his version of

the events with me that he relayed to her and Jim. That I'm having some kind of mental breakdown. That he wishes he could help me. But my paranoia is causing me to lash out and turn violent. And what's so hilarious is that he didn't mention Amy at all to his parents. Cat believes me. His dad, Jim, doesn't know what to believe anymore. According to Cat, her husband seemed very, very troubled by what he heard from all sides. As for Amy, she's radio silent. Thomas told Sophie that she's acting like nothing is wrong, but she is clearly stressed out.

That when her children ask her, she makes the same sort of claims. That I'm having some kind of emotional, nervous breakdown and pushing her away as well as Luke. She doesn't mention anything about me accusing them of an affair, but she still puts it all on me. My life has fallen apart, but it was never my life. Then three days later, Opie posted an update. And it's pretty long and off topic. First off, Opie talks about the house, how it's in her name, and how she's going to play hardball.

Also, she talks about visiting her family attorney, which coincidentally prevents her husband from being able to retain that attorney. There's a bit of friction between the two attorneys but OP moves on. When my kids ask me what's going on, I simply tell them that their father and I are having adult problems and it's nothing they need to worry about. That worked for about a day. Sophie warned me that they were planning to confront me as a group and they did, asking if Dad had cheated on me with Amy. Obviously they've been talking about this and perhaps they've been for longer than I anticipated. I simply said, I believe he did, yes, with as much sincerity as I could muster. I think they believe me. Tom and Sophie

are texting non-stop and from what I can gather, there's doubt among Amy's kids as well that this is about me losing my mind and not their mother being too close to my husband. I think it's slowly sinking in for Luke's father, Jim, that what he didn't want to believe was possible is very much possible and is happening. I haven't shown him or Kat any of the letters or anything. They're hosting Luke, so I haven't had much contact with any of them at all. But I did have one phone call with Kat, where we wished each other well, which was nice. In the background, I could hear shouting, and though Kat quickly went outside, I did hear what sounded like Jim shouting at Luke.

He doesn't usually shout, he's the calmest man I've ever met. So in a way, I'm worried about him, but also relieved that the wool is being pulled off his eyes. According to Cad, Luke is still staunchly denying everything. He was pretty upset when he found out that I had poached the family lawyer though, which gave me a kind of grim satisfaction. Also, the test results came back. Sophie and Tom tested their DNA against each other to see if they're truly blood siblings.

And here's a surprise, according to the test, they're not. They don't share any DNA. We're all more confused than anything. I was so certain that Tom had to be Luke's son, and Tom was too. Now he doesn't know what to think, and I don't know either. I obviously now know that the affair happened and lasted years and I know from the letters that Kaylee is Luke's child or at least both he and Amy seem to believe that she is, which does confirm that they were intimate 15 years ago. Now I'm just wondering for Tom's sake who, if not Luke, is the father? He does kind of look like Luke but I guess that's just a coincidence. In general, everything was quiet, is the father. He does kind of look like Luke, but I guess that's just a coincidence.

In general, everything was quiet for a few days. Until it wasn't. Until she finally showed her face. My best friend, Amy. I'm so happy that I installed rain cameras everywhere as you're about to understand. Sure enough, Amy turned up on my doorstep and asked to talk. She had a relaxed demeanor and didn't raise her voice. I assumed that she was just approaching me on Luke's behalf, so I told her that I wasn't interested in talking to her and to just go away. She didn't leave, but she didn't make a scene either. She persisted in telling me that we had to have a conversation. The kids weren't home and I did have cameras inside. I was also recording

her on my phone and being discreet about it, so eventually I relented and let her in. I don't know if she realized that she was on camera. We sat down on the couch and she instantly got to the reason for her visit. Turns out she and Luke know or suspect that I procured damning material from his laptop. Amy accused me of going through his devices and told me that anything I found wasn't my business and I needed to delete it. That was all she had to say. No apology, no admission of guilt, didn't take responsibility for her own behavior. So I confronted her, letting out some of my anger. I asked how she could have the nerve to make demands of me. I asked her why she and Luke would do such a thing in the first place,

why they saw fit to spend all those years betraying me. As I expected, I got no answer. Literally, Amy didn't seem to really even hear me when I confronted her. She seemed like she was stressed, panicked even, but she was keeping it under wraps. She ignored my questions and accusations and just kept telling me to delete whatever content from Luke's laptop that I had. She said that if I wanted to divorce Luke, that was my call, but not to drag me into it. Oh, that made me so mad. I kept my temper, but I did snap back that she was already very much in it. Amy just kept repeating herself, telling me to delete whatever I found, so I just refused. I asked her point blank, why should I?

Why did I have any reason to? She refused to leave until I deleted everything I'd found in front of her, and I couldn't help laughing. I told her, no, that was not going to happen. This is where I could see her starting to freak out more. In another moment, she got up, ran to the other room, and grabbed my laptop. Before I could stop her, she smashed it on the floor. All of my important files are backed up and at that moment, I was more concerned that Amy would do something else drastic. She looked like she was going to have a breakdown.

I tried again, very calmly, to tell her that she needed to leave or I'd be calling the cops. She refused again and just kept repeating her demand that I drop this whole cheating angle and divorce Luke without trying to argue that an affair took place. I told her that I didn't owe her anything, but she owed her children the truth that they had a right to know where they came from, who Luke really was to them. Amy bristled and told me that it was none of my business, that I didn't understand her family and I needed to back off. She got more and more desperate and her anger accelerated

to the point that she physically attacked me. She hurt me pretty badly, but I got her off me. I recorded that part on camera. She finally left after that, and I immediately called to file a police report. I also sent the footage to my two lawyers, as well as pictures of my injured state before I cleaned up. Then, five days later, OP posted an update. Everything's been on hold for the past few days because Jim, Luke's father, had a heart attack. I saw Luke, Amy, and Amy's kids at the funeral. It was the first time that we were all together since before all this happened. Nobody talked about what's going on, short of Amy briefly apologizing for what happened before. She did seem sincere, I'll give her that.

Amy, Luke, and Kat all seemed pretty devastated. I was too. But we all agreed not to argue or talk about the divorce and just let the day be a ceasefire to focus on Jim. Luke and I had a nice conversation about him. I think that Luke misses his kids and hates that he can't see them thanks to all this drama. Also, OP reveals that Kat lied to OP about sending in DNA test results because ultimately Kat didn't want to go behind her son's back, so she confessed that to OP. So that does possibly still mean that Tom is Luke's son. My lawyers finished going through Luke and Amy's letters with a fine tooth comb. The bottom line is, they definitely found what it was that Amy didn't want me to see.

And I now completely understand why she was so panicked. It has to do with why Amy and Luke didn't marry conventionally. They did something very bad. But this is genuinely something that I'm not sure if I should be talking about, even on an anonymous internet post. I haven't even been able to collect my feelings about what Amy and Luke have done, especially with everything else going on. Alright, like the rest of you, I'm dying to know what this very bad thing is, and the top comment seems to be people assuming that they're half siblings,

which would also explain why Kat and Jim decided to support Amy, because Amy was probably the affair baby of either Kat or Jim. Also, now that I think about it, that would explain why Kat refused to do the DNA test for Luke, because any sort of DNA test from them would show that they were still slightly related because, you know, they're all family members. Man, this post has more twists than a pretzel. That would mean that oh gosh, what is the family tree here? Okay, so we have to assume Jim and Cat had Luke and then Cat probably had an affair and

gave birth to Amy, so they're half siblings. And those half siblings decided to screw. And then Luke had kids with both Amy and OP, which means they're half siblings? So holy sh- oh my god, holy shit, what is the math on this? Man, I literally tried to calculate how much DNA is shared between Tom and Sophie if they're half siblings, but you know, my brain is starting to hurt on this one. Can anyone do the math? How related are these two? Are half siblings who are born from half siblings, are they more related than brother and sister

or less related? They'd have to be less related, right? Maybe like 40% DNA match or something? That was r slash off my chest and if you like this content, be sure to follow my podcast because I put out new Reddit podcast episodes every single day.