rSlash - r/Relationships Boyfriend Wants to Become a Cuck

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to r slash relationships where OP discovers that his 12 year old son doesn't actually exist Our next reddit post is from throwaway 179. I'm a 36 year old woman and my husband is 33 We found out that his child never existed this weekend in the most Wtf moment of my life. My husband eric found out that his 12 year old son doesn't exist at all. This isn't a huge surprise, I'll get into that, but it's still shocking. I found this out over the weekend, Saturday afternoon, and have been consoling and comforting my husband. I need to process this, but also get advice on what the hell to do. Other than therapy, because it's literally where my husband is while I post this.
Starting point is 00:00:46 While Eric was in college, he did a study abroad in Europe, and there he met Katie. Katie claimed to be from a very well-off family from Southeast Asia. My husband says he believes it's true because she had the spending habits and flat to prove it. After writing this out, I feel it's better to put it into a timeline. July 2012 to July 2013. Eric is living in Europe. Early September 2013. Eric receives a Facebook message from Katie informing him that she's pregnant with his
Starting point is 00:01:16 child and they have a conversation and she informs him she'll be terminating the pregnancy. End of September 2013. Katie blocks my husband on every possible form of communication he can get. At the time, he took this as she was upset about the situation and wanted zero contact. He was frustrated she never followed up and told him about the termination or how it went, despite the fact that he asks, but he moved on with his life. Three years later, March 2016, Katie unblocks Eric and tells him that she's sorry for disappearing and that her family, who is very traditional, learned of her pregnancy and ended up bringing her back to their home country. She sends photos of a child and tells Eric that she
Starting point is 00:02:00 couldn't go through with the termination and that they have a son. Katie tells Eric that she was seeing someone and that her boyfriend was raising the kid like his own. I would like to say that this was a very huge shock for my husband. He was 23, fresh out of college, and he's told me numerous times he regrets what I'm about to say. Eric tells Katie he wasn't interested in having a relationship with their son. He's willing to send money and medical documents and family information, but that he didn't find the need to be a part of the kid's life if there was a father figure there. Katie explodes on him and blocks him again.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Later that year, November 2016, Katie unblocks him again and apologizes for her actions. She says that if Eric ever wants to learn about their kid, that she's waiting and that their child is amazing. Then for the next two years, they have monthly check-ins. They're not talking a lot, but Eric knows about what's happening with his child and in Katie's life. Katie has always said that the child knew Eric was his father and that her partner wasn't. October 2017. I meet Eric on a weekday. We had our first date the following Friday and it was full steam ahead.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I learned about Katie and the kid pretty early on, but we didn't talk about it much. I asked him why he wasn't involved, and he said that he was either in college or right out of college, and didn't feel that it would be healthy for a child. Even though he was the child's dad, it didn't seem fair to explain to a young kid that he was going to be a dad through the phone. He didn't have money to travel and see the kid until 2017. We live in America. He felt that Katie never seemed interested in having him personally involved in the child's
Starting point is 00:03:40 life, so he kept it like it was. When I learned that she never asked for money, but just simply wanted to know about medical history, I didn't find it that weird. Was it odd? Sure, but it didn't feel like a scam or anything. July 2018. Eric and I have a conversation about a timetable. During this conversation, I bring up the question of kids, and what does his life with his actual kid that he has look like? I brought up the fact that maybe it and what does his life with his actual kid that he has look like? I brought up the fact that maybe it was time for him to meet said child.
Starting point is 00:04:09 We decided that we would plan a vacation to Southeast Asia, see a few countries, and have one of those stops to be meeting his child. A few days later, Katie had reached out to Eric about something, and Eric told her that we wanted to come. She got all defensive, saying, I don't know her, you wanna bring another woman around my child? You can't just pick when to be a parent. Insult after insult, and then communication was just over.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Blocked on every platform. When I went to go message her, I found that I was blocked on everything. So from here until the next timeframe of when they talk, I would just like to say that my husband did try many ways to get in touch with her. January 2019, Eric and I get engaged. July 2019, I get pregnant. I lost the baby, but this was a very hard time for Eric.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Obviously, miscarriages are hard for every father, but Eric told me he felt like he was losing his kid all over again. Eric got very depressed, and this is when he began therapy. Eric being upset caused me to be upset. And with that, the loss of the baby and the wedding planning, I finally confessed this to my parents. My parents knew about the kid, but not all the details. My dad is a lawyer and is very well connected. And two days later, I'm sitting down for a lunch meeting with my dad and his two buddies, one of whom is an immigration lawyer and one who's in family law. They asked me a thousand questions, and the immigration lawyer
Starting point is 00:05:36 asks if we have a birth certificate. I say no. He asked if I'd ever seen one. I said no. He said, then how do you know this baby exists? I think he said it as a half joke, but then he asked us why she had never asked for American citizenship for the child. I said I don't think she cares and he informed me that the country Katie is from, even affluent people from that country would be looking to get access to that citizenship for their child. Especially because in the long run, it would help for family sponsorships. I go to a therapy session with Eric and explain this to him. And he basically tells me that he knows the baby is real and he doesn't understand why Katie is acting like this. And I just decided to let it go. September 2019, Eric and I get married.
Starting point is 00:06:25 While on our honeymoon, Katie unblocks us and says, Well, I guess we're all a family now. And communication begins to start back up. For about two months, conversations are going great. Eric actually talks to his child, and Katie invites us to come meet the child finally. But then COVID hits and we're stuck in America. During this time, it's about the same as it always was. Katie checks
Starting point is 00:06:51 in about once a month, but when we ask to talk to the child more, she says it's too confusing, or he doesn't speak English good, or there's a time difference. April 2020. I get pregnant, and we chose not to tell anyone outside of our parents and siblings. I didn't post about it, didn't upload photos of the bump. I just chose to break the news with a picture of our son, born January 2021, with the caption, Survive the Pandemic, now facing sleepless nights. I don't know the exact time we posted it, but if we posted it at like 10 15 a.m. then by 10 30 a.m. we got a message from Katie saying how sick and twisted we were, saying
Starting point is 00:07:32 our caption proves how disgusting I am making light of a pandemic that killed thousands of people, saying how awful I was for not telling her so she could prepare her son to become a big brother. And then she personally attacks me saying some effed up crazy stuff. I was tired, I had postpartum, and I was tired of the drama and petty stories, and I knew that something wasn't adding up. And I asked, wrongly, I'll admit, my husband to block her for a few days. Eric does this, and then a few days later when he thinks she's calmed down, he unblocks her.
Starting point is 00:08:05 They try to have a conversation. It doesn't end well, and Katie blocks my husband. We expected to have her unblock us at some point, and we just waited, but she never did. Eric tried many times to get in contact, but nothing. We kept living our life. Had our twins, a boy and a girl, in October 2023. We thought that we'd hear from her around then, but we didn't. My husband spent a good chunk of time the last year trying to find her and the child.
Starting point is 00:08:34 We did end up going to Southeast Asia earlier this year to celebrate five years of marriage. We were there, with our kids, for three weeks and traveled all over. Eric tried multiple times to reach out, and we hear nothing. Over this weekend, we get unblocked by Katie, and she starts off by apologizing and admitting that she knows what she did was wrong. And the moment my husband read that out loud,
Starting point is 00:08:59 I knew where this was going. Sure enough, she cops to the fact that she has major mental health issues and lied about this whole going. Sure enough, she cops to the fact that she has major mental health issues, and lied about this whole thing. She was never pregnant! She enjoyed their time together during their study abroad and didn't want to lose him and thought that she could baby trap him. In her message, she spoke about how when she told him about the baby, she thought that he would get back on a flight and be with her. When he made it clear that he was more focused on partying than being a dad, that's when she blocked him the first time. She met someone else, Jay, and when Jay broke up with
Starting point is 00:09:33 Katie, that's when Katie reached back out and said that she had the baby. But she never did! She was never even pregnant! It was all a ruse! Jay was always the man that we thought that she was with. Turns out, they broke up years and years ago, and she's been lying to us about Jay too. I don't know what to do. This is such a huge lie and cover-up. I'm concerned for my safety. I spent this morning deactivating mine and Eric's social media accounts. I feel as if she's been watching all of us for a long time and I don't even know what to do. My husband doesn't want our friends and family knowing just yet, which I'm fine with, but
Starting point is 00:10:14 I don't even know how to begin with that. If anyone has a situation that matches this level of screwed up, obviously fake children in other countries is a niche problem, but this level of messed up stuff happens often. I need to know where to start, where to go, what to do, what to say. Any advice? Man, of all the stories I've read, I could probably list out 10 of like the craziest, funniest, most absurd stories I've ever read. This might make the top 10 list. This guy just took this woman's word at face value for 12 years and formed false emotional
Starting point is 00:10:52 attachments to a baby that never existed. This woman lied about it for 12 years to what? Seduce him? Even though he got a girlfriend and then got married and then had babies with her and she kept the lie going all that time. All I would say is, OP, you can't believe anything this woman says at this point. If she says it's all a lie, who knows? Maybe it is a lie.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Maybe it isn't a lie. Maybe there really is a kid. I think all you can do at this point is go to your lawyer dad and his lawyer friends and or hire a private investigator in that country to just track the woman down and see if she has any kids because there's got to be official documents or records somewhere saying if she has kids or not. Our next reddit post is from throwaway. I'm a 28 year old woman and I freaked out about my 30 year old boyfriend's fetish request
Starting point is 00:11:44 and broke up with him. He wants to explain even if we don't get back together. Is there any good explanation for what he wanted? I thought we were doing really well. We hadn't hit any huge milestones, but we were staying at each other's place a lot with lots of good intercourse and we were talking about getting a place together. We also mixed well with each other's friends and had similar interests and life goals. I felt relaxed in his presence, which is not something that comes easy for me. And while laying in bed, he did the face he does when he wants to try
Starting point is 00:12:13 something new, or something that's for his pleasure more than mine. Basically the face that says, I feel guilty for even thinking this, so I want you to ask me what I'm thinking so it's like you brought it up. Nothing too extreme had ever come up before, so I want you to ask me what I'm thinking so it's like you brought it up." Nothing too extreme had ever come up before, and I always thought the whole act was kinda cute. It reminded me of the youthful nerves of my first intimate relationship. So I asked what was on his mind. After the usual, no pressure and I'm just wondering what you think and all that we got to the actual idea. He wanted me Alright, he wanted me to have intercourse with his friend while he watched I freaked out and I don't usually do that I'm able to have calm conversations with tense topics, but this felt very different
Starting point is 00:12:59 It was like a visceral reaction that I could barely even control was like a visceral reaction that I could barely even control. Feelings and words became so blended that I'm not sure where my thoughts ended and what I actually said out loud. I do know how it made me feel. Like everything I thought we had was a lie, and that he thought that I was his whore, and that his relationship with his friends was so much more important than our relationship or my dignity that he could just toss me to them like I was nothing and worse that he could get off on watching that. There was also all the other
Starting point is 00:13:30 stuff that would come with it. Did he already discuss this with them? Had he done this before to other girls? Was I hanging out with these boys while they were thinking they were gonna bang me? Also, what about after? Like, we hang out with these people, and I was just supposed to treat them like my boyfriend's friends after letting them see me naked and having intercourse with them? I'm not a prude or religious or whatever, but I'm not the kind of person that can do that, and I would feel so uncomfortable and degraded having a casual friendship with someone who I did that with knowing they had seen all of me and even done stuff with me.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Seeing me naked is a big deal to me. Passionately hugging is a big deal to me. The trust has to be earned, and now I not only felt like he wanted me to ignore my own boundaries, but that I hadn't really known the real him when the him that I knew made me feel loved and safe. Like if he had said a stranger and this was some sort of cucking thing and I'd never have to see them again, I would have still said no, but I wouldn't have reacted like this. If he had said another boy or girl in bid with us that was
Starting point is 00:14:36 a stranger we'd never have to see again, I still would have said no, but I wouldn't have reacted like this. It's the friends part that makes me feel so gross and objectified and makes me question everything. Anyways, at some point in my stream of consciousness attack, I told him we were done and left his place not even grabbing my stuff. He's been texting me trying to get the chance to explain and saying that even if we don't get back together, he wants me to understand what he was actually asking
Starting point is 00:15:04 and what his feelings for me are and were. I basically feel like I know everything I need to, but this was a long-term relationship that I was invested in. And if he had screwed up in another way, even cheated or stole from me, I would at least let him explain himself while still breaking up with him. Is there anything that can make this not as bad as it sounded?

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