Rural Concerns - Dad Club Summer Special

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

With Sunil away hunting for puffin meat, Chris and James get together to discuss the looming summer holidays. Together they compare notes on family holidays, new Superman film and James talks in an incredibly convincing Italian accent. Live shows: If you want to experience the full force of Rural Concerns Live, you can grab tickets to our Manchester show at Fairfield Social Club on 22nd November. Chris is taking his new show to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. 15th - 19th August! Grab your tickets now!  Chris and Sunil are performing on at A Lovely Time with Amy Gledhill and Friends on 30th August. It’s a charity fundraiser for Gaza! Contact & support: If you have a Rural Concern you can send us an email to [e-mail]. We promise we’ll be very kind! The best way to support this educational podcast is through Patreon. For less than a fiver you can get bonus episodes and access to our Discord community, The Creamery.

Dad Club. This is not a normal episode of Rowel Concerns. Sonno Patel, Errant, he's gone. He's on Puffin Island. He is. he actually is. It's just me and Chris this time. We've got a dad club round up. The last one was at Christmas. We were discussing the intricacies of being a dad at Christmas time.

And now it's the summer holidays and that presents its own unique set of challenges. And this is like one that we're juggling with basically James is going on holiday. So we're time stamping. We're basically doing an episode that will come out. We're not exactly sure when, but don't worry because we've definitely put enough like time stamped date specific stuff that means that whenever it'll come out, it'll be confusing. It is already out of date. We're recording the intro after recording the main episode

and the main episode is out of date. It's so out of date. But we hope you have a good time and thank you for listening. Sorry, I'm like, what are you wearing? Are you wearing dungarees? No, it's an apron. What are you doing? I'm making a chili con carne. Chili con carne. By the way, I so enjoyed saying buffalo mozzarella. Thanks to you, Chris. Thank you very much. It has brightened my life.

It's my greatest joy in saying buffalo mozzarella. Big shout out to all of our Italian listeners. shout out to all of our Italian listeners. Vorrei uno bagno molto grande, molto, molto grande, vero? I've been doing Duolingo because I'm going to Italy, which is why we're recording this bonus episode, isn't it? Where are you going in Italy? Puglia, Puglia Nesi. I tell you, I like Italy an awful lot. You don't have a pizza until you have an Italian pizza, do you know what I mean? It's sensational. What sort of a holiday is it? Is it an Airbnb or is it a...

It is in, it is like sort of like an Airbnb. Yeah, we're staying in a villa. We're staying with another family for the first week. No. And that's all right. Have you been on holiday with them before? Yes, last time I was in Italy with the bloke, we went out to dinner and I got really annoyed

trying to explain to him, it's antipasto primo secondi. It's like a house. You've got the ground floor, the first floor, the second floor. And he's like, well, why do you have your primo second and your secondi third? It's like a house. Antipasti is the ground floor. Primo first floor, Ticondi second. And it's point like the rest of the restaurants gone quiet. Yeah. And that's in Italy. I'm getting done for talking loudly and animatedly. And he's agreed to come back on holiday with you. His wife and my wife get on.

There you go. He's probably having a conversation. He's looking over a suitcase being like, I don't want to do this again. He's going to talk to me about the ground floor. Yeah. If he mentions the fucking floors of a house again. Right. So you're making a chili con carne. I've got a chili con carne question. One, mince or chunks of meat. This is just a pure mince one. I've gone for a 7.5, a 0.75 kilo vacuum formed bag of mince. This is, is this, is this with a child like, cause my wife likes chili con carne with like steak chunk sandwich. I don't, I don't, I don't hate it, but I prefer mints, I think. I do, I like to do both, chuck a bit of stew and steak in and let it, let it go. But the base is mints with a few little bonuses in there. Is it a, what's the word? Is it a child adjacent?

It is. They're big into it. They absolutely clean it. So you can just hide vegetables in there. So there's like peppers cut up in it and onion and whatnot. Yeah. God, the list of foods that are now suddenly unacceptable. Do you know what I mean? Dispiriting. But do you think this is like- Worse than some religions. This is very reminiscent of, there's like a type of blokes, this is a very bloki type dish, isn't it? One where it's like, you know, like my friend Lee, who I love so much, he listens to this intermittently so I've got a good bit of time before he gets pissed off with me.

He is the dog sex correspondent because he saw a man thumbing a dog in a pub. He saw a man thumbing a dog in a pub. Yeah. It's good to have that bit of law clarified, but just so you know, yeah, any new listeners, just know, take this with a pinch of salt, but not by the person. But everything he makes, you go around his house. It's like, I'm making this bolognese, this ragu or whatever, but it's not a ragu, you know, like slap it

in the pan, pour it all the way in. It's like everything he does is something that starts either the day before or in the early hours of the morning. Some insane reduction. No, but it's a type of, like I could say, my wife, do you know what my wife's throwing this and that together? Whereas with me, me making a curry is everybody be quiet in the house. I'm making a curry and it's like, it's going for full 24, at least 24 hours.

These onions need to sweat. Yeah. Sweat into a molecular level, but there's like that. And there's like blokes who do long boiled stuff. It's what is we boiling stuff over a really long period of time. Bowling at blokes who are really into pizzas. Like when you were really into pizzas, somebody who listens to this podcast- Was like, wow, what a mega dude.

I mean, I didn't want to discuss it really, but he was just like asking a lot of questions about your setup. Cause he was like, he doesn't think you've got like, like he, he basically thinks that you are a bit of a bit of an amateur compared to cause he was like, he was like, what about, I can't remember what he said, but he was talking to me about. We're talking about proven trays. I've just, I've just gone on a, I've bought from a plastics wholesaler, a, a, a, a proving tray, not single use thing. Cause before I was using like a metal, you know, like a roasting tin.

So once you make the, once you've let it sit and it's risen overnight and stuff, you make it into the balls, you put the balls in the fridge to do like an extra long prove at a cool temperature. I was just using a normal metal tray with cling film wrapped around it. Yes. Which did work, but it was doing metal tray with cling film wrapped around it. Yes. Which did work, but it was doing that thing when cling film doesn't stick properly, which is I looked it up. It's annoying me that much and it's something to do with science. That was going to be my guess, yes.

I've got this low plastic tray with a lid so that can go in the fridge and prove them. So emailing again you with the email. I was this live. You've seen, you've looked into their eyes when they were saying this. He's a comedy promoter. So I was at a gig. Is he? Well, I'm glad I'm not in the game anymore because I would be burning bridges. I asked him about the thing and I was like, can you sort of tell me a bit more about that? I was like about top pizza and he sent me this like, he sent me this like insanely detailed shopping list, including like the semolina. Is it semolina? Is that what you use to?

That's what you use to, you put that on your peel so it slides off nicely. It's like tiny little, it's basically As it goes, yeah. So he's got that, he's sending me the like a pizza oven thing where it's got a spinner on it. So it's whipping around. He's researched the cheapest. I mean, yeah, if you don't want to have the craft of it yourself, you can have it done automatically. You can also just buy, you know, Dr. Urkler if you want. He's given me like, this is the cheapest uni I can find, you know what I mean? Like he gave me this, and it was so much information. I was like, it's like so much information.

It's like, I need to put this to one side to sit down and put my glasses on and make detailed, comprehensive notes to understand it all. He did use the flower dough, which I've used before, which I got off of, there's a really good video online about making a pizza dough. used before, which I got off of, there's a really good video online about, about making a pizza dough. I go for, I use the Ken Fawkish method, the no need overnight with, with, it is

with packet use, it's not a sourdough or anything like that. I, I did, I became a sourdough guy for a bit in lockdown and I occasionally think about going back there. But the whole thing smacks of too much. So he sent me a video of him doing these pizzas and his pizza, I can't remember. Can you forward that on actually? I can't remember what pizza he had in it. Well, it was with Sam.

It was himself making the pizza. Yeah. Definitely forwarded me that video. It's done at Sam Fire. What sort of gigs are they? any good? Yeah, they are good. Need to fully obliterate the car. Do you know what I mean? I have to keep the pit master happy, but it's a lot of information. I need to clarify, but basically I think we've opened the lid on pizza guys as a demographic and I'm not sure it's like a Pandora's box. I don't know if

we want to pursue it. I want to know your ratios. I want to know your baker's ratios now. If you're a pizza guy. You hear that? You're being called out. I've not my, in fact, I knew I'd become a bellend about it for two reasons. Because one, I've written in, so on the, in my recipe book, I've now made my own notes on that recipe. What do you mean to be like this Italian master that, that, and you're like no, seven generations of this family have got it wrong actually. A little bit too wet for me actually, a little too wet. No, it's just, I just can't, I can't handle, I find that it rips a bit too easily for me the way I do it. So I've reduced the water and I've just made a note of that.

Could I have a video of you? Absolutely Wanker. Cause I like the bit for me is I don't- Oh, I don't really, I know I'm not doing much of that. Yeah. I press it, push it a bit. And then I basically by hand do this slowly. And-

We went on a long weekend to Naples, AKA Napoli. To the locals, which I am, which I was regularly mistaken for. And I watched them in, I was waiting for the pizzas in this one restaurant. And I was like, right, I'm going to look at how they do it. And they had a very clinical method because obviously they're just doing it all day. They need to do it. And it's not artisanal. It's not artisanal for them. They are the machine. And it was literally like side of hand down on one side of it, pull, rotate a quarter turn, pull, rotate

a quarter turn, pull, rotate a quarter turn, pull. Initially. So they did, they, you know, they plopped it down, flattened it, pushing it out quarter, quarter, quarter. I think they did pick it up and just kind of go fully round. And so gravity kind of brought it out. They might have done a bit of a, a bit of a waft, a bit of a thing to get it a bit, even a bit wider, but that was basically all they did. So I kind of try and base my method on that, but I'm not as clinical as that. I'm still faffing a little bit. I'll occasionally

pop it on the back of my hand and see if I can get a spin going. A bit of a thing is I could love to work in a restaurant, a pizza restaurant, a nice one, just for free for a week. Because if I just did it for a week, you would have the muscle memory. The second thing that made me realize I was a wanker was when I suggested to my wife, I said, could I take my apron on holiday? What did she say? She said, you've never sounded more mint. I said, well, actually, I'll refer to you to this list where I say we should take dishwasher tabs and our own washing tabs because it's criminal having to buy them out there. Yeah, you took you out. Oh God, yeah.

Yeah, I know what a terrible man I am. You've learned me, but the idea of giving any of the 23.5 kilogram baggage allowance to an apron, you're meant to be on holiday, but... But it's got a pizza oven because it's like an Italian villa. So it's got a pizza oven at the back. That's different. And one of the days we are going to a mozzarella farm. Can you get, oh, I can't have any, I can't, you live a long way away.

I can't, I'd love some mozzarella from a mozzarella, but we can't do it. Because we can't get it, bring it back, ship it in the UK, it'll be shit mozzarella. Cassafi, Cassaf fee or Cassie feature Cassie feature cheese factory or factory. Yeah. Let's take one step back. We've launched fully in, but why this

is what you're going on holiday. Why is it just me and you what's going on? This we are, we are basically doing the Chili Con Carne of episodes. We're batch cooking a couple of episodes because, well, because I'm going on holiday. It's the daytime. Sunil is swanning about in London. No, he's away. No, he's not. He's away. Where is he? He's gone to look at puffins.

He's looking at puffins. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. I don't know what he's doing, but I don't buy the puffing, looking at puffing story with a bunch of boys. He's hanging around with a bunch of boys and basically- Him and the lads going puffing watching. He's going puffing watching and basically it's just a ticking countdown until they grow up and leave him. Do you know what I mean? Like, now, they're like in their early 30s, we're a couple of years off, but they've all started getting partners and having kids and moving away. And it'll be just a sad old, an older dude.

Have to find some younger kids and go to even more puffing farms. Do you think at this puffing farm, they like recognize him and he has to be like, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch. Yeah, not those, don't mention those other young boys. I don't know. I hope he's having a good time. It looks like an ice holiday. Do you know what I mean? Like if you're

having a, having a few teens on a boat, going around a protected bird habitat. And that's what I like about Sunhill. He does what he wants to do. That's true. And he won't be, he won't bow down to peer pressure. If he wants to look at some birds, he'll go look at some birds and the puffins too. Hey, this is dad club. This is dad club in fact, and we're dad clubbing just before the summer holidays. We're basically comparing notes on how we're going to entertain those pesky pesky kids. Are you nervous?

A little bit. My wife is very organized. She's got a spreadsheet. We've booked in to a few day holiday camps here and there. The thing is, as the problem is with childcare in this country, it bears no relation to the working day. I've got to drop them off at half nine, pick them up at half three. There's no working day where that is feasible, where you don't have to take time off to do that. And if you're taking time off to do stuff, you're, why you also

paying to put them in. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a sort of day where you do that. You work from home a bit. You work a bit like you, like you saw the after, when you pick them up and then you work a little bit into the evening to sort of balance a day out. Yeah, it's terrifying. Like, normally, I mean, traditionally I will be at the Edinburgh Fringe for almost the entire six week holidays, which poses its own. Because like the thing with the

Fringe is, it's just a money sink. So you do well. I've been doing it a while as well. So it's not like it's not as mad a financial gambit as it was, but still of the circumstance, I also have to invite my wife to not earn any money, which is, you know, it means that we come back, it's very intense. And then it's always like September, October, November, where we like basically getting back on his feet, Justin, but which is all fine. But even, even, even though you're doing well at comedy and stuff like that, it's kind of like going to a blackjack table. No, it's going to the roulette table, but it takes a whole month to put your money on it. And you just, over the course of 30 days, you're ever so slowly pushing your money onto

red or black or green. If you're mad, you're an alternative comedian. It's green. And then you're waiting, and then you've got three months of the ball spinning around basically. And then you get your run at Soho theater or what have you and telly comes flooding in. Or get your CV in order and go back to Argos. It's one or the other. But yeah, it is like that, basically. You invest it, as I said, you're investing in yourself. So it's just a huge undertaking, but it's part of my life and I love it. So it's like, it's what, and it won't be forever and ever, but I don't know. The thing with- Alistair McClendon But you can see how in the moment

with young kids, it must feel difficult to justify because there isn't an instant comeback. I suppose if he was like 13, 14, 15, then it'd be just a very different... Yeah, because he can come up, you know, for longer. He could come up, yeah. He's a couple of years too young for me to be able to sneak him into stuff. Do you know what I mean? There's definitely an age, like if he was like 12 or something like that, where you're like, you can come in and watch all

these, all these sweary comedians, this'll be fine. But we're just not there yet. So, it's just a bit, it's just a bit mad. But I'm around a lot more as a dad. Like, we've fallen into the routine of this is what dad's life's like. And I'm here a lot more. When I'm gone, I'm gone. When I'm here, I'm here more. I'm not like coming home at seven o'clock at night with a tie pissed off and working and stuff like that. So I'm there for- I pick him up at three and we- I was going to say I've had a laugh, but it really does depend whether he can be bothered with me. But so we've done- yeah, but this year I'm only up, I'm doing my own little Edinburgh Fringe run and I'm looking after some shows. So I'm basically up for a few, two blocks of a few days

and outside of that I am around. So basically, and there's some holidays where always there's an element of throwing him back in here and there, you know. The first week we're going to Whitby as a family with my mum and dad as well, which is like the traditional British family seaside holiday. And you know that thing for a kid where you go to the same place all the time. So there's a little, and I think they love it. I think I loved it when I was a kid. You've got the rituals, you're not fussed about exploring the world. Like we got a Whitby, we do what my dad did where I'm like, well, I'll have to see whether arcades are open. You know what I mean? They're open. They're

fully open. They're never shut. So like, so we do that. We go get donuts. We have fish and chips, you know, like, and we hit, we basically do the same stuff that we always do. I'll know every year he's getting a bit older. So it opens up slightly different things that we can do. Like there's a, it's a bit of a drive really, but there's a place called Eden camp, which is a world war two. Uh, it's like a, I don't know how to describe it. It's like a barracks of a, it's like a living history type. Oh yeah.

So it's really interesting. It's really cool. I loved it when I was a kid, but the boy doesn't know what World War One is. Do you know what I mean? So like, here's like, this is what World War Two was like, but at school now, we're just getting into the territory of discussing World War Two. So. Jason Vale It's like Terminator 2. You don't need to watch World War One to get it. Terminator 2 is a standalone, World War 2 is a standalone war. Do you know what you've absolutely hit the nail on the head? That's like World War 2 is Terminator 2, the much more accessible sequel.

Way more high tech, a lot more. The much more accessible sequel where in the sequel, we are the goodies now. You know what I mean? World War 1, bit more complicated. Yeah. And it's a bit grim and gritty. And yeah, there's that bit where the Kaiser's his own mom or something.

I've got a friend who's a history teacher. Oh yeah. You're going to tell him that? Pass it off as your own. Get the kids involved. But he tells me like really, he tells me really mad stuff from history. Ales-Solomon-001 Does he tell you about stuff like... Germany did it as well, they had a fake

village, but they used to, during World War Two when the Blitz was going on, they would make places that looked like military structures from the air, but they were just made out of wood, painted wood. So they'd make stuff look like it was a pretend military structure. And I saw this on- Like a decoy, sort of like drawing in, like drop the bomb, this like empty field that's been made to look like a depot. I read this on the internet the other day from someone good, and I apologize that I cannot remember who it was, but it is a fact of history. So I don't think this is plagiarism.

But Germany did a similar thing and it took them like a couple of history, so I don't think this is plagiarism. But Germany did a similar thing and it took them like a couple of months to painstakingly construct this wooden recreation. And on the day it was complete, British bombers went over and dropped one single wooden bomb. Just a piss take. Like, we know what you're doing lads. Oh, so they knew what you were doing. That's very funny. know what you're doing, lads. ALICE Oh, so they knew what you were doing. That's very funny. It sounds- ALICE Bants. Wartime bants. ALICE Wartime bants sounds like wartime bollocks, doesn't it? It sounds like that. We played football in No Man's Land stuff, and you're like, no one believes that.

ALICE Yeah, they opened it up and it was full of ricin. ALICE My mate loves, um, like, he's got a really interesting, mad World War I weaponry. World War II was its own thing. World War I is in that turn of the century, where it harkens back to a much earlier combat and warfare. ALICE Yeah, people on horses and people with machine guns.

RILEY Yeah, people on horses. It's like the end of like this medieval era. So he's showing me this like a gauntlet that's got a knife built into it and stuff like this. He like, this is, these are mad weapons and a load of absolutely wild missiles. I mean, this is a hundred percent dad club at the minute. Which chatting World War II. No, to be absolutely fair to Sonno, I think he'd fully be on board with mad World War one weapons, but you know what he's he's like John Wake with that dog. He's found

peace now on Puffin Island. And you bet you with these sort of bird islands, traditionally, you're not allowed to, you just observe. But I suspect Sonno will just end up on the Puffin Island and he'll have to live on the Puffin Island. Do you think you'll be allowed to vote? I think that'll be the sticking point. ALICE That doesn't fit into the take only pictures lead, if only footprints. WILL That'll be his red line, won't it, really? ALICE Take only pictures, leave only the smell of

rhubarb and custard. WILL I'm very relieved that we fixed his audio issue last time. That was brilliant. I felt like such an achievement. ALICE It might not be last time. This might come out a couple of episodes later, but at the time of recording, neither of us have seen the James Gunn film Superman. You are absolutely right. And I think both of us are going to see it today. Getting the bow from school and then going straight. This is a big day. Quick chippy tea?

Nando's tea. Nando's around the corner. Nando's around the corner from the cinema? Yeah, yeah. Taking my mum. You ain't got, you haven't got a Nando's around the corner of you. No, whoa, no. This is why it's a big event. So it was a big cinema day. I have to say, I mean, obviously I've just, we can't live in a world where we're completely immune to seeing just absolutely bang average reviews come out. So I'm lightly also this means more to me because I've made defending James Gunn kind

of like a core pillar of my entire personality being like the reason that Marvel films are bad is because they've stopped prioritizing storytelling. We need to let James Gunn loose on this and now it's come out and it's just getting these like two star reviews. So I have to say I'm apprehensive. Also have to say I'm taking my son to see this film against his will. Oh no! He doesn't. We watched the trailer and his reaction was like, I said, don't I look cool?

And he was like, why are they kissing all the time? And I said, because it's Louis Lane and Clark Kent and they're in love. So he doesn't... I was like, yesterday I said to him, you do want to go, don't you? And he went, yeah, yeah. Like that, you know, which I think means no. But he's... ALICE He wants to go Nando's. I'm hoping, I'm hoping like, I'm hoping it's good. The thing is, this is very, but I read the story is very complicated.

Yeah. My son wants to see Fantastic Four. He's mentioned that. So I was like, well, yeah, I said, we'll go to that. I think that is going to be really bleak, you know? I'll tell you what it is. It looks like, it looks like a film. And that's all I can say.

I watched the last one where they're obviously doing these, I don't know, they start to look like TV shows or something like that. Thunderbolts was this. Yeah, but I saw, like we talked about this before, but they're doing an interview and they're like saying, yeah, we actually shot that film in a car in the desert. You know what I mean? Is that something that we're proud of? That's normal. That should be normal for films. They're so proud of like the practical effects and stuff like that. So like, like they also

had this money on the screen with Fantastic Four. I don't know. We'll say it's something to do. It's one of those ones. I'll be watching it. I'll be excited. I want to see it, but I've got a feeling that it's, it's the reception I think is going to be really weird because I don't think looking at looking at it and sort of having a vague understanding of the comics that it could be coming from. And I think the fact they've got Pedro Pascal as the lead, his thing at the moment is kind of having a bit of a worried expression but stoically accepting a terrible thing that's

happening and I think and this has got Galactus in it. And I don't want to get into any sort of spoilery type things, but yeah, this is the start of phase six. We are kicking some, I think, I think they're kicking something off. Yeah, finally. That'd be great. It's been however many years since when I just didn't know what to do after end game. Yeah. There's been some good stuff though. There's been some enjoyable stuff, but it doesn't feel like it's coalescing into a cohesive like thing that will, that thing that we've got to film next year that ties everything up. It's like, I don't even see how you can tie this stuff up because it just seems like random disparate stories. So if y'all, if you've seen Superman,

send us an email and let us know what you think about it. Yeah. And you'll be able to tell, I guess from our next record, what we thought, because we're getting our next record is going to be after. Yes. We've seen it, but it might have come out before. I think we've met a pig's ear at this. I think time wise, we're doing worse than Marvel. It doesn't feel like we're building towards a cohease of anything.

No, it feels like like we it's confusing, isn't it? And a bit bleak. Confusing and bleak. And everybody just wants to star signing. Do you know what I mean? We want Patel back. Please bring Patel back. That's why Tom, they've got Tom Holland back off the benches, aren't they? You know, please save this car crash. So Neil's going to come back and play Dr. Doom. Oh, I'd love that. But he is in the DC. He is in James Gunn's DC universe. No, he isn't. No, he's just on the, he just missed it.

Toxic Avenger isn't in DC. But I think what's going to happen is... We got it confused with Swamp Thing. They'll hear his American accent. Well, they will. And then James is going to be like, we need this character, this Dr. character needs to carry over into the main timeline. Jason Vale I apologize. I was assuming that you were referring to Toxic Avenger

of being in the DCU. Perhaps the nationwide adverts are actually part of the extended DCU. Domenic Martens Extended DC universe. Yeah. Jason Vale Superman's always just out of shot. Domenic Martens Superman's just out of shot and, but basically is nationwide, almost certainly a subsidiary of Lex Cop. Isn't Dominic West, he is actually, he's in a Marvel. He's the baddie.

Isn't he the baddie in the Ben Affleck Daredevil? I don't know. He's Jigsaw. He played Jigsaw, the baddie Jigsaw with all the scars on his face. I do not know. Let's have a look. I'm fact checking myself.

Oh, he was in Punisher Warzone. Punisher Warzone. Weren't we all? Apparently that's quite one of the good, that's one of the good like pre, pre new Marvel, Marvel films. It gets the Punisher right. Right then, I need to get back to my chili con carne. Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, let us know.

I'll send you this video of this Pete, this guy doing a pizza better than you and we'll go from there. Oh, hot tip. My sources tell me at the minute other pizza dads out there, Little Middle is doing their offer whether it's like a maximum 15 pound pizza peel, which is a very good deal for a very good pizza peel. I think it might even be seven quid. You know, the pizza peel, the big paddle, Little Middle, I think it's around the summertime, they have their own pizza peel that comes out, and it's about 15 quid at the moment. And'm just gonna get one of them. And that is really good value.

They've got one with a folding handle that I've not tried out or like just a solid one like you'd see in a real pizzeria. Because you are real pizzeria chef, it's all you dads. I'm a pizza, I'm a pizza yola. I'm a pizza yolo. You are just as good, you are just as good as a proper pizza chef

and I won't hear different. That's what Nona told me. That's a good place to end. So that was the Dad Club. Thank you very much for listening. If you want extra bits and bobs, join us on the Patreon and that address is Chris. What's the address? It's patreon.com forward slash rural concerns. Excellent.

If you're going to the Edinburgh Festival, please go and see Chris's. Is it a work in progress? It's a work in progress. It's not a finished show, but it's not a thing. It's called a whip, a work in progress. It's not a finished show. I'm trying my best. Will Barron But you can be like one of the cool people. So when it actually does come out and like wins the awards and stuff next year, you can be like, I actually saw it before it was any good.

Jason Vale I think it'll be still, it'll be a mess. It'll be all over the place. But do you know what I mean? I also believe it'll it'll deliver a solid amount of laughs. And I think in that world, is it not OK? Do know. We'll find out. And come see us in Manchester, 22nd of November, 2025. Link in the show. It is going to be an extravaganza. We are going to be stressing out so much in the month leading up to that.

It's going to be immense. It's going to be good. It's going to be stressing out so much in the month leading up to that. It's going to be immense. It's going to be good. It's going to be immense. And I want you to know, James, it's not going to be profitable. It's going to be, it's going to be big. It's going to be complicated. Pyrotechnics? Well, I watched, do you know what I mean? I'm on this quest to make sure the live shows have a live show, not just three dickheads chatting. But then I watched, there's another podcast and I can't remember what it...

I was like, look at us, would it... ALICE Is Help My Sex did my part. Is this the one you sent me and they started stripping? WILL I sent you? And it's like a musical extravaganza, so I was like... ALICE They do the stripping from the full Monty at the beginning. WILL Yeah, I was like, that's the bar. Musical, all singing, doll dancing, light show.

These guys know what they're doing. I'll roll my t-shirt up to the nipples. That's all you're getting from me. So if you want to see three men with their t-shirts rolled up to the nipples come through. Also, I've got a new gig to promote. I'm not sure when it's going to be announced in relation to this because all time don't mean anything anymore. Amy, I'm doing a gig in Manchester on the 30th of August,

which is a lovely time with Amy, Glad Hill and Friends. And it is a fundraiser for All Our Relations, a charity which helps get food into the mouths of families in Gaza. So it's going to be, this is, I don't know if I'm revealing the line up or messing it up, but Amy's hosting it. I'm doing a bit, Sunil's doing a bit. And another bit of a lineup that is yet to be confirmed. But that'll be fun either way, won't it?