Rural Concerns - Jogging bottoms, to-do lists & death

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

Welcome to Rural Concerns; a long-distance catch-up between Chris Cantrill and Sunil Patel. In this maiden episode they introduce themselves (several times, much to the annoyance of Producer James), talk about jogging bottoms and the value of time block planning. Pretty indicative tbh.   You can email Rural Concerns! Drop an email to [e-mail] and we’ll send you a signed picture of Sunil knocking a bear out. Rural Concerns is produced by Egg Mountain for A Lovely Time Productions. Our artwork is Poppy Hillstead and the music is courtesy of Sam O’Leary.   Want to learn more about Chris and Sunil? - Sunil Patel: www.sunilpatelcomedy.com  - Chris Cantrill: www.christopher-cantrill.com

Okay, Sunil, crunch time. What do you think this show is going to be about? It's about your fragile mental health and long-distance friendships, countryside, and rappers' biographies. Yeah, that sounds good. I mean, what should we call it, though? We've got to find a gap. Well, I mean, it's hard not to find a generic title,

and I think you always go for the most disgusting titles. I've got some titles. I've got some of them are my titles some of them are ai tight i talked to an ai bot yeah you've been going absolutely i think you've had a i mean i don't want to call it a breakdown but you've been texting over like hundreds of different names to us. Yeah. Are you all right? Is everything okay? I'm having a rough, big birthday this week, moving out soon. I'm having a tough time, not going to lie. That's coming at you pretty quick, isn't it?

Do you know what I mean? We've got to get the episode. We've got to save some for the future episodes. But I knew I was bad because producer James had to ring me during the weekend when he's spending time with his family just to, um, well,

James should have just muted you like I did. Why didn't you just mute the chat? James? I sort of felt responsible in a way because I said it would be good if it had a title. Oh, right. That set him off.

That would have set him off. And then it happened. So he rang up and we talked about this, talked about the AI and stuff. So I've got a definitive list of names. All right, go on then. And I asked the AI. What do you mean a definitive list of names?

That's what I've asked. I've had 20 texts that have started like that. But there's no such thing as a definitive list. That means, what does that mean? Right, okay. It means about you're going mean? Right. Okay. It means about, you're going to get 20 separate texts.

It means that it's got to be one of these names or I'm going to unplug all my equipment and delete all my social media and that'll be it. So we have to pick one of these.

We have to pick one of these names. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I've had enough. Right. Here we go. The outlaw and the outcast.

Oh, that's got it. You could cut yourself on that edge. But which one's which? Who's who? I'm the outcast because I live in the middle of nowhere. Well, I'm not an outlaw. I fully support the police and all their actions. You don't pay.

I've known you 12 years, never known you to pay tax. Another one. Country mouse. The one that you suggested, Stank Factory. I did not suggest that, Chris. I did not. I don't even know what that means.

What is Stank? I don't know. I don't know. What's a factory? No idea. Never been in one. Cutching at straws. That sounds...

Very different places. That was another one. But my friend said it sounded like a racist 1970s sitcom. Two incredible fellas. okay uh the ministry of bantamant no absolutely not and you know that uh chris and sonil's forbidden creamery what does that mean what does that mean though um i don't know but it sort of generates like did you come up with that in your head? That's not an AI.

I proudly can say that the creamery is... But I thought it's a good idea because it makes us, like creates the illusion that we're master craftsmen making cheese. Yeah, I like the idea of calling it the creamery. That sounds quite quaint. That's nice. Sounds delicious, doesn't it? The Good Bud Hotline.

Chill, chats, big laughs, the broadcast. Well, that's a different podcast, isn't it? Yeah. The Good Bud Hotline. Chill, chats, big laughs, the broadcast. Well, that's a different podcast, isn't it? Hefty hearts, long distance laughs. What does that mean? Hefty hearts,

fat hearts. I like that one, but it does sound like a medical. Yeah. I felt, I felt all right about AI after doing this process, to be honest with you. I was like,

oh, I'm okay. Merfle Mouse does does dudes plus distance. Why do they all have alliteration? This is robots for you. Oh, I thought that was yours. No,

that was, that one's a robot one. But finally, um, rural concerns. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right.

Let's do that one. Cool. Great. Great. James is sick james is sick of it yep great please that's the title please stop we've recorded this for an hour but it's two minutes james can we call it um rural concerns uh colon the creamery would that make sense to listeners or about the creamery rural concerns rural concerns bros in the creamery would that make sense to listeners or about the creamery rural concerns rural concerns bros in the creamery i think that's so that's so much okay rural concerns it is there's no

rural concerns on twitter so let's just have it okay so uh that's what we'll do you keep me up to date with cool things that are going on in london i tell you about weird stuff going on in the countryside um hopefully along the way i don't become a total hermit um and yeah what you're about to listen to is the very first episode it's technically a pilot and it's worth pointing out that we don't touch on any of those key themes within this episode. It's mainly us getting told off by producer James for not adhering to the plan, which we set out. So thank you for keeping us on task and we hope you enjoy the episode. I understand that the note was to make it tighter and shorter. We made it longer and wilder, but it is funny. It doesn't seem like you understand that the note was to make it tighter and shorter. We made it longer and wilder, but it is funny.

It doesn't seem like you understand that. Hello and welcome to the very first episode of Rural Concerns. Hello, I'm Chris... Okay, he's lost it immediately. That was Chris Cantrell. I'm Chris Cantrell and in the year 2020, I thought it would be a brilliant idea to swap the city for the countryside. A decision which was, with the benefit of hindsight very very locked down i'm sonal patel i live in the mega city of london and enjoy easy access to world-leading cultural events uh little artisan coffees and um eminem's world i'm gonna like i'm upping my amount yeah that was

good yeah you just gotta stay that close and you can't turn away at all i'll stay that close yeah don't turn away no matter what we say so i don't want to start too nervous i don't want you to speak for me about how i live but i know all the secrets and. You can say how I live. Yeah, I don't want to, you know, I want the world to get the best impression of how you live. I don't want to be like, oh, he's really lonely. But I am. That's kind of the reason why we're doing this because I don't got any friends anymore.

Right. So basically, should I give him the top level of what's going on? Yeah, go on. So buckle up. This is a podcast. Sit down. Don't worry. It's fine. It's exciting.

So we're doing a podcast in 2024. And basically the concept that runs underneath it is that me and Sunil Patel, I'm Chris Cantrell, Sunil Patel. Fuck, I'm on it. Chris, Chris, Chris. Do you want to come in James and just you've written a

lovely list of topics that you're going to spend 10 minutes on and you spent 10 seconds on the first one and then you

jumped to topic two so let's go back to the first one I think that's a fair note a brief history of Chris and

Sunil friends slash hustle enthusiasts but I was just trying to think of a way to talk to I was just thinking of a way to talk to introduce... I was just thinking of a way to talk to introduce ourselves.

But then I was... Well, don't put it as second on the list then. Put it as first. Right, let me do the intro. I'll do the intro. Hello, welcome to our new podcast. My name's Sunil Patel, and I'm doing this podcast with my good friend Chris Cantrell,

who lives in the countryside and doesn't do an enormous amount so he gets quite bored and he contacts me a lot to see what's up in the city. Chris how are you what's going on? I'm looking out my window um not much is the answer. You've got a window in that room have you? Yeah I've just I mean it is too much, but I live in an old hotel and over the fire escape signs, I put pictures of my son and stuff like that. That's nice. I think if we were inspected, I'd be in a lot of trouble.

I live in a dark skies area, pitch black, no street lights, and we sort of live near some sheep as well. The thing is, though, in the way of that window, you've got a large water-cooled PC that you game on. Yeah, I do. With with lit up uh mechanical keyboard yeah and i had to take it to a pc specialist to ask him to turn the rgb lighting off because i've been getting a lot of migraines and i keep having meetings with people remotely and like the the light cycled through lots of colors, you know, like Technicolor Green Rainbow. I mean, just, I looked mad.

Well, I don't understand why you bought so many colors. I don't understand why that's a design aspect that you went for. I didn't, but it's a powerful PC, but I am beginning to see why it was significantly reduced. Why do you need such a powerful PC though? What's going on? So much of this story, let me take you back to the Blight to 2020.

That's when you first thought you might do a podcast on it. Yeah. Well, no, it was back then it was Twitch streaming, everyone's getting into Twitch, Twitch streaming. And I did it once with a laptop and i cried so i spent 1500 pounds

on a top high spec gaming pc and i was like my wife saying we don't have this money all your work's just been cancelled and i had tears in my eyes and i said this is my job yeah this is this is how i make money um and then we did one more i did one more twitch stream yeah they never did it again never had any interest in doing it ever again um but still got a high-end gaming pc just about paid off and i put stickers that i find out in the world on the side you know like on the glass screen yeah so this is something i would never like nobody that i know in this city would buy a you know a tower pc It just makes no sense. Space-wise.

What do you want me to say to that? Oh, yeah, I've got the space. Oh, yeah. Jealous. Jealous? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on MacBook Pro. Okay.

Brand new? As you well know, I bought it yesterday, yeah, for this podcast. I know. I know. I'm trying to fill in. I'm imagining a world where we don't know everything that's going on. brand new uh as you well know i bought it yesterday yeah for this yeah i know i know i'm trying to fill in i'm imagining a world where we don't know everything that's going on but someone listening didn't know every single thing that we talk about all the time i'm trying to fill in some gaps i know you got it yesterday um i know it's 16 inch screen which is i'm gonna say it it's too big it's not portable it's's not portable in any way. It's about as useful as a tower PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you can fit it in a bed set. I've been to your hotel in the countryside, and it is idyllic. There's sheep and stuff in the fields around. I would be very happy there, I think. Well, that's what we do. So it happened during lockdown. The hotel that I live in belongs to my mother and father-in-law

and we moved up during lockdown and we fell in love with the place. We spent five months walking around the fields and fell in love with it. So we moved as entire, we moved as entire lives up here and then the world switched back on. Yeah.

And I now increasingly think what have i oh yeah you were part of that like everyone like deciding the city's over because of the pandemic and you went out there and then we came roaring back and now you're still there it's very embarrassing it's become like a very dated thing to have uplifted, like uprooted your life during COVID for a new life in the countryside. Cause now I'm like out like a dick. Yeah. I look like a dickhead that's trained. And it's so far away from everywhere.

All the work that I do. It's so far away from everybody I know and everything that I do. But we can't move now we've been here two three years my son is settled and he's having this idyllic little countryside life so I'm here now and also every time you come to London you get quite scared as you get off the train because you think it's too hectic and fast for you doesn't happen because I don't mean to be I don't mean this to sound like it's going to sound, but my career is going very well. So I'm in London to such a frequency that it feels very second nature to me.

That you could just live here. Maybe I could just live here, but I can't. So it's nice to come down. It's not, I said to my wife, I was like, you know what?

I think I like broadly like the split of my life. Yeah. A bit of time here, a bit of time there. And I looked at my wife in the eye and I said, if I had to do, if I had too much of one or the other,

like too much of the countryside or too much of the city, I think I'd top myself. And she said, stop talking like that. You know what I mean? You loved London when you lived here though.

Yeah, I did. But i don't know why you weren't like going out to galleries or anything no and i think that was the assessment me and my wife were together and she and we were living in kilburn and i'd got made redundant that was the big driving force so my money uh was disappearing and then i was like very committed to being in London because all my friends were there and stuff. And then my wife said, I own a buy to let property in Manchester and the mortgage is, uh,

50 pounds a month. I mean, that's still a city though. That's not bad. Yeah. And I said to my wife, we need to move immediately. I said,

don't even pack anything. Just like, let's get on the train. Let's get out of here. But then we've just moved further and further north and now i live near scotland where's the next move at this rate isla sky are you gonna die there do you think you'll die there yeah when we moved like we're trying to move house now again that's another saga for another day but i it's so stressful i said again I looked my wife in the eye

and said I want to like I'm not doing this again I'm gonna die in this house and she's like please just

not in front of us son you've got yeah you've got to stop telling your wife you're gonna kill yourself I just I'll not kill myself just be dead

I'm just I want to be dead but you still live in London yes you're a man of an age in a flat share. So do you want to? Yeah, but I'm in the top.

This is the top end of flat sharing. I'm with one other person. So the podcast has been initiated by my life being a bin fire. But please, for people that don't know you, and by that I mean people that haven't seen adverts they haven't seen adverts on telly or listened on radio because sonny is one of the uk's leading advert actor men um could you sort of fill in some blanks about where you live what your sort of vibe is i live in london my vibe is young man about town i own a car with a very small boot and very small uh seats in the

back because i don't expect passengers or guests probably doesn't have any iso fix points either for child child seats because it's just for adult just adult men driving around just drive to sainsbury's and out out to like have fun it's a fun i live a fun like vibe you know zone two that's what it's all about and i pop out for coffees every day okay what do i do i think because a lot of my friends are just around in the day i end up doing stuff like at the moment once a week i go out for all you can eat sushi next to a petrol station just down the road at lunchtime it's pretty much empty um and it's just a few of us eating sushi there it's really fun i only eat in places that are empty when i'm stressed because i'm in lots of different major

cities and stuff so places i don't know so i always go around and if it's busy i'm like i can't go in there so i go i take myself to empty places and i was saying to my friend um basically if i'm wearing if i'm out for work i have basically a wardrobe of clothes I just wear for work. And if I'm all over the country, um, wearing the same clothes, am I basically becoming like a sort of Baba Yaga type folk demon for the hospitality industry?

Do you know, like a guy, a guy in like a, um, a yellow, a yellow shirt and a blue jacket showed up and six months later we went out of business and it's the same it's the same outfit and it's popped up in edinburgh it's popped up in manchester you've just got a uniform that's nice it's nice to have isn't it yeah but i just i sit in there and it's i think it's bad it's bad times

for your business if i'm in there like enjoying the space in silence what should we do we've got a schedule with producer james absolutely livid with us for jumping around but that's fine it's a it's i have a question for sunil do you you like chris has a uniform that he can wear. Do you have a sort of uniform, city uniform? I have a uniform that I cycle. I mean, I'll wear something for like six months at a time. My uniform at the moment is,

so I just go to Uniqlo whenever I want, which Chris can't do. And I'll buy like 10 of the same t-shirts and I just wear them for a couple of years is that's as close as i get to uniform the only thing like clothing wise that i sort of have is a uniform like i never wear um loungewear or tracksuits uh even if i wake up i'm up i'm showered and i'm wearing stiff stiff raw denim jeans. Stiff denim. And everything. I'm not, I don't have any, I don't like wearing like, you know, what do these people wear?

You know, when they're lounging around. Some of them go to the shops in them. I think that's a question for you, Chris. There's an epidemic of men in loungewear day to day. Like you see it at the school gates, you know, the dad showing up in jogging bottoms and stuff. And I, I'm the same. Even in the countryside?

Not as much here. There's like farmer people shopping like mucky big, but that feels different because that's working. But really if you come in, if you're showing up at 345 wearing jogging bottoms, all you're saying is that you're lazy and don't work. But I've started but i've started i've started um i have to say i have got into loungewear recently yeah i have to do loads of long distance but basically i'm trying to trick my brain into thinking that everything's fine

do you know what i mean i have to drive to manchester a lot two and a half hours drive got loads of bits and pieces going on there, loads of friends. So about once every week, two weeks, I have to go down to Manchester. I get in the car and I say, this isn't far at all. Do you know what I mean? Like a brain thing. I'm just like, this is nothing. When in reality, yeah, it is quite a distance.

So I get in there. It's a bit of a commute, isn't it? Yeah. It's quite the commute. But when I do the train to come down to see you, that's three and a half hours. And I've started wearing jogging bottoms on that bit of the trip. Are you one of those people that wears like tracksuits

and jogging bottoms for flights? Yes. It's disgraceful. It's disrespectful to the engineers that made that incredible machine and the people that work in that environment and you're coming on dressed like, I mean, I don't even know. I don't dress like a man of my age.

I don't know that much. Do you know what I mean? What does a man of your age dress like though? I think that doesn't exist anymore. Shirt, gilet. Yeah. A gilet. No one wears gilets.

What are you on about? I've got friends that wear gilets. The only people that wear gilets down here are people that work in hedge funds. I've got friends that wear gilets. What are you on about? I've got friends that wear gilets. The only people that wear gilets down here are people that work in hedge funds. I've got friends that are doing all right. Yeah, no, I'm saying that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. None of them are sad.

James has written the word compo in the chat. I look like... This is a tangent, but me and Sunil were together and we were doing a perform a live performance to entertain people together and it was us uh old friends and we were in scotland and some people from scotland and i made the mistake of telling those people that i over lockdown got a stylist um that was that was a big that was a big mistake i couldn't have felt like i couldn't yeah

but in a way like it's like it was and i and then i was going on about i dress in unicor and i think that's funny that we both dress in unicor because and no offense to either of us but we we're not like spry like like we've got some you know, some good old fashioned 1950s heft to us bodies and Uniqlo is very much the brand for sort of like shapeless beautiful Japanese waifs, isn't it? It's Uniqlo

I would love to wear a suit every day, but I wouldn't know where to fucking start like doing that and it's so expensive. I just think it's, I think one trade-off of not being in the office world anymore is that i don't have i will be wearing a suit or a formal thing again i want to wear silly not silly i don't want to wear silly clothes i want to wear like nice clothes but i want to wear like trainers and t-shirts and, and I want to do that until I'm dead.

By the sounds of it, you're going to die almost at any point in the next three weeks. I mean, once we get this move done, I'm going to move the last box, sit down on the thing, dead. How often does your wife leave the village? Well, this is the thing. She's a voice coach. She's travelling. Oh, she's travelling as well then?

Well, yeah, she's getting busier and busier. So uh couple of weeks she's been to bristol she went to geneva to teach she's teaching business people how to do presentations at work and she was teaching like the ceo of some um like danish podcasting company like how i, I don't know. I don't. And she gets upset that I don't remember any of the 10, any of the specifics, but I wish her well. Yeah. But you've got,

you've kind of got it pretty good then. Cause you get to like travel around the world, travel around the country and then go back to your like idyllic country home. That's the plan. Where you wear track suits and just like do nothing. No, that's not, I mean,

I'm always hustling i'm always working but i'm quite i am quite lonely yeah if i'm honest you don't have what i do which is like you know at any point 24 7 where i am now i can text someone and say do you want to go for a coffee yeah i don't have that at all i mean you can't get a coffee that late at night you probably have to go to the um 24 hour petrol station near me yeah which has a greg's built in the myth that london is a 25-hour city it's yeah it's not it's it wraps up at 10 o'clock sharp yeah the pub's all shut at the same time uh but i'm fine with that i'm fine with that i don't want to go out drinking anymore i'm done with it yeah so where are your 25 hour options? A&E? I went to a Swiss

Swiss bar till 4am on Friday night and that that's enough for the year I think. Don't get that up there do you? Skiing themed lodge. No, we ain't no Swiss. We get a few Danish people. Were you drinking alcohol? Yeah, two at a time.

Was it a deal? No, I just didn't want to look like a loser getting one drink. I wasn't on my own i was just out of the round so so should we talk about should we go back a little bit sorry james uh but we're on a roll there until we were talking about nothing of any interest to anyone at all should we talk briefly about our history as friends yeah a little bit yeah just how do you know each other how do we know each other yeah yeah we'll just say we've been friends for a number of years probably talk to sonel about it yeah okay yeah fair enough fair enough so sonel just in terms of a minor recap of what is it?

How long have we been friends now? Is it like 12 years? You calling it a friendship? Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, we've been friends for over a decade now. Yeah. I can't quite believe it.

How old were we then? We were in our 20s. 15, 16. 15, 16. leave it how old were we then we were in his 20s 16 15 16 i think we i would say remember our first conversation was on some wet decking was it where was that outside somebody outside a house party but i remember thinking this young man and he has his head screwed on whereas everyone else was off the heads talking nonsense i think we were talking about management theory i don't think at any point i

thought i had my head screwed on but um yeah no but what i like about you is you keep it all internal do you know what i mean i'm so worried about you but it's in general the drama i know there's a voice in your head screaming what the fuck am i doing but everyone's got that but you don't put you don't put it on anyone else I don't often think what the fuck am I doing to be honest but yeah it has been 12 years of you suggesting that I do

which is nice you should you really should you should look you are the most worried of my friends you're a worrier. You're a worrier. But I'm also like a meticulous,

I'm like a, I'm thinking about a lot of things. You know what I mean? Too many things. I only just, and this has changed my last two weeks of my life. Unbelievably,

I've started doing a to-do list. Time block management. I couldn't believe it. It's incredible. I've done so much in the week that i've left for like maybe a year and it's been it's been an absolute i'm gonna keep doing it i think i can't believe you didn't tell me about this i do i do it um i did and when i don't do it i notice that it's going bad do you know what i mean like i lose focus in the days and you don't always get all the way through your list but you get a lot of it done but i imagine you have a lot of distractions don't you you've got you've got a child and a wife wife don't want all to do with

me son's at school quite a bit so i do have time to myself more time we basically live the same life yeah yeah just knocking around but i just like i can't go for coffees with anyone so i just like tromp around the fells what coffee what coffee do you drink there um it's called co-op fine french blend really yeah that's nice you don't grind your own beans like we do down here i don't think i've never seen you i've never known are you grinding beans. I got a bean grinder. No, don't grab me on beans. I'm too busy to grab me on beans. I'm trying to have one coffee a day,

but basically I tromp around the hills. I'm listening on my headphones. I listened to a biggie smalls. Um, and I think I walk around the, I live on Hadrian's wall, Roman country. And I walk on there and I do think,

I bet nobody has ever listened to Gimme the Loot looking at this bit of old wall. I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that walk around here. You can't have music on when you're walking around here because anyone can come up behind you and attack you, you know. My friend, when I was in London, I'm down and I've got my big phone out, like I've got my big phone out looking for things and I'm holding it away from me and she was like you need to not do any of that because you're going to get taken advantage of but yeah I still think as well I've always I've got this misdiagnosed

thing in my head that I think I'm really hard and good in a fight but I'm not I was just born in a quite a rough place so in my head i'm like i don't care about anyone do you know what i mean so i go to london don't care but i've moved up here now and i'm just talking to farmers and stuff and i'm like you're all soft as shit which i shouldn't i shouldn't think like that i'll do it because yeah because farmers are like yeah they can murder someone and no one would ever find them yeah someone told me up here the violence is like rare but um intense when it does happen so you're like right okay just uh just wind your neck in control is it anything like vicar of dibbley because i've been watching that this week is it like vicar of dibbley well

yeah i'll tell you what it it's it's not i mean it's not as funny as a vicar of dibbley um that looks like quite sweet and nice what more racism and homophobia and stuff just casually banded about but uh oh right but we're in a village the thing that i can't that i'm new to having only ever lived in cities before is you're on display in a village you're in a goldfish bowl even if you don't know them and you don't really talk to them you know who people are and you know sort of what the deal is and you too there's like a public element to you just existing yeah yeah yeah and i find that really interesting and mostly great but every now and again a bit like anxiety inducing it keeps you in check doesn't it it keeps the community

solid right the elders yeah and what i did when I first moved up was, um, wanting to ingratiate, you know, I'm committed to dying here. So I wanted to ingratiate myself into the community. What I did was I became the editor of a co-editor, um,

of the village magazine. So I sort of put myself in village life, um, which I thought was like an altruistic sort of thing to do, to put myself in the community. But all that really happened is I spent morning, noon and night arguing with pensioners. About what?

Publishing their articles? I won't budge and I won't give the church free advertising space. Wow, they want free advertising space? Well, they went, can you put this advert in and the issue of money's never raised you know i mean advert for what what are they advertising uh like choir service special christmas events you know like this sort of thing oh they're events right yeah and i'm very sympathetic but also i've got standards and basically they want to put a load of images in and stuff like that and mess up you know like can you

can you can you jazz this up and And I'm like, no, no, because the formatting is very clear and set. Who's this? The vicar? Everybody really. I've upset. I've had to step away from the magazine very recently because I've just, you tell them you wanted to kill yourself.

No, no. I was away. I was in London and I was doing something mad and I was getting bollocked because I didn't do, didn't put an article in. Cause it was, and I was doing something mad and I was getting bollocked because I didn't do didn't put an article in because I was and I was like I can't do this I can't live like this this is mad so I've said

I need to take a bit of a step back but why don't you become editor in chief and get some dog's body to do the actual work because quite cunningly nobody will touch it with a fucking barge pole. They say that for the time sink it is.

But basically, I'm going to take a step back and I'll still help. Because the lady that does it, he's octogenarian. So I'm going to make sure she's got, i'll deliver it for her stuff but i can't be it's like two working days a month which in lockdown was fine when i started doing it but now it's like i can't lose that time but basically i'm like i'm gonna come back to it i'm gonna take it back in my retirement years and um so you know how long did you retire now then do you think well how i feel i don't know I mean I don't feel I don't feel like I've really got going yet

so it feels churlish to talk about how retiring like I've just died Yeah yeah yeah I mean you've had two careers basically haven't you? Yeah But I didn't like the first one Thank you for listening. Yes. And if you want to ask us a question about the countryside or reprimanders or whatever,

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So that was World of Concerns. It was produced by producer James for a lovely time. Music, Sting. Has he given us the rights to use Roxanne? He's not replied. He's not replied. Okay, so we'll have to see about the music. It's either going to be Sting

or it's going to be something completely free from an audio library. Either way, it's going to be as special.