Rural Concerns - Spice, babes & Tiny Tim
Episode Date: December 24, 2024The lads are joined by a very special guest for this merry festive episode! James is having a snowball, Chris ponders intergalactic travel and is it too late for Sunil to learn the true meaning of Chr...istmas? Chris is going on tour in February. Get your tickets, here! Do you have a Rural Concern? Email it to the lads: christopher@alovelytime.co.uk. You can support us on Patreon! For less than five quids you can get bonus episodes and access to our Discord community, The Creamery. Click here to start supporting Rural Concerns today! Patreon.com/ruralconcerns. Our artwork is by Poppy Hillstead and the music is by Sam O’Leary. Rural Concerns is edited by Joseph Burrows and produced by Egg Mountain for A Lovely Time Productions.
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Hello and welcome to a very merry festive-tide edition of Rural Concerns. I'm Sunil Patel,
City Dweller.
I'm Chris Cantrell, Countryside Exile.
And I'm producer James, cul-de-sac reg I'm Chris Cantrell, Countryside Exile. And I'm
producer James, cul-de-sac regent. Chris, hang about. Who's this little lad here? This
little lad here? Well, Sunil, as today's a Christmas special, we are joined by a very
special guest. This is Bob Cratchit's son, Tiny Tim. And why isn't he saying anything?
Oh, well, he hasn't spoken a word since his mother died.
That's so sad.
What happened?
Tis a tragic story to be sure.
His mother had a podcast with a couple of friends,
but one of the friends refused to promote the podcast
when they were on other podcasts,
even though they did the least amount of work out of the three.
Tiny Tim's mum said it didn't bother her,
but it really did.
And she died of a broken heart.
All right, thanks for coming, Tim.
Just sit there while we mull up some festive banter, yeah? Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh- with Darth Maul versus Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn.
What's he doing?
I don't know.
He's on bed, isn't he?
He's on his bed.
Is he going to gossip mode?
He's got like nine different studio spaces in his house.
He's on his front.
I'm expecting to see his little feet waggling in a minute. He's lying on his front, holding his head up with his hands.
We've got a wet patch in the bedroom and it's still not dried. I'll tell you who else has got a wet patch in the bedroom yeah who i just got
damp everywhere but well i know what you're saying i've been i've been a young man in the city i too
have had criminal levels of damp not traditionally the vibe of a Christmas special,
but here we are.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah.
What are you...
Yeah, like, we need to...
I'm on a snowball.
Oh, lovely.
I don't drink at home.
Hmm?
Nothing.
He doesn't...
He said, James,
in case you missed it,
he doesn't drink at home.
But I would say...
Hasn't got a kid.
Hasn't got a kid.
Get off your high horse.
Also, that's definitely...
I had a friend.
He's not really a friend anymore.
We just sort of drifted away.
But his dad...
Full name him then.
Go on.
No, his dad was basically an alcoholic, but lived by, lived by like a very sort of tight set of parameters to is basically I'm not an alcoholic.
If you're an alcoholic,
if you drink before midday.
Oh yeah.
Correct.
I've had grandparents like that.
Like 1159,
12 full pint sitting.
Setting an alarm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like,
so yeah,
it's, and that reminded me of that
listening to you talk about how i don't drink at home and you're like nope it's that i get
absolutely hammered hammered whenever you want wherever you want in a nero's in a cafe nero's
it takes a hip flask well we'll say my like i've largely i drink so much less we've talked about this before i drink
so much less than i used to do as a younger man but it is creeping up a bit recently now we're
entering the festive season little little cocktails is what i'm into now do you know what i mean yeah
yeah less like pints like like volume like do you know what i mean like drinking eight pints of
liquid that's insane isn't it?
But just two little cocktails.
Well, obviously the bladder control is an issue as we get older, isn't it?
For some people, for some people.
No one on this call, that's for sure.
Not on this podcast for the young boys.
Wet patch in the corner.
It's a plaster patch, by the the way just for full clarity but yeah the bit about i haven't but you
know when people say basically bladder control and like oh you do a wee but then you don't stop
weeing for a bit like as a man as you get older and you're like that that sort of thing that and
having to get feelings it's like a level of existential dread that i can't quite get my
head around do you know what i mean just like teeth stuff do you know like the decline of the
body like having to get i think having to get glasses sent me into a tailspin do you know i
mean i didn't have it i got them when i was in my 30s so it was like okay so i guess that's that
gone now and then i was like depressed and in a state of melancholy for like four months.
For glasses?
Me and James have been wearing glasses for a long time.
You've been wearing glasses since 12?
Yeah, since eight.
Yeah, because I'm like, I was 20, 20.
And now I'm like, now I looked at some old bastard
in a restaurant with, and it was a cool restaurant.
It was when I was in London and it was someone who was basically
in their probably 50s, phone torch on to read the menu in the thing.
And I was like looking at them, furious with them,
like scared of becoming them, but also jealous that I couldn't,
I would have loved to have got my phone out.
I would have loved to have got my phone out because I couldn't
read the menu at all.
It was too dark. It was too dark.
It was too dark.
And so then I'm just like, well, what would you have?
Do you know what I mean?
This sort of thing.
Do you know what that John Wick 4, you know,
that's like uses doorbells sensors to fight his way through everything
because he's learned to adapt.
That's me.
My canny rat brain has learned to adapt
to not being able to eat menu in restaurants
by being charming.
I'm currently Googling improve your eyesight naturally
because I swear to you this is...
You mentioned this before.
I know, but I'm pretty sure it happened.
Eye yoga.
I found it.
Eye yoga.
Paul McCartney.
He's 81.
Does it involve doing eye rolls?
Because right now...
Yeah.
James has been doing it for pretty much a year
whenever we started recording this podcast.
He's been rolling his eyes for nearly eight months.
The thing is, I don't want you doing this, Sunil,
because if you do it and then, I don't know, you might just end up with two eyes looking in different directions and I don't want you doing this, Sunil, because if you do it and then, I don't know,
you might just end up with two eyes looking in different directions
and I don't know.
I'll tell you what's happened today.
That's reminded me.
I'm catching some strays off Ramesh Ranganathan's Instagram.
What do you mean?
Like people who are just tagging me into it
because he's put up an AI-generated Santa Claus picture of him,
but it's basically just a fatter version of him
and everyone's tagging me into that.
I got about 10 notifications today.
People that don't even follow me are tagging me in.
Thing is, you've got glasses and you're both Asian
and you're like, pass that point.
Thought he was talking to me and you.
I didn't say this. I don't even say this.
I don't even say this.
He looks fucking great, though.
He's like a guy of an age who's ripped beyond all...
Oh, fuck me.
All right.
Let's have a look.
Hold it up in the middle.
Aww.
Aww.
What do you mean, aww?
I don't have that beard anymore, have I?
I've shaved the beard off, haven't I?
No.
Yeah, I know.
That is me.
That's my fucking face. Oh, yeah, that's I? No. Yeah, I know. That is me. That's my fucking face.
Oh, yeah, that's a new special.
No, this one's got your smile.
That's the...
It's got the little mouth.
Do you think...
But to get to this point,
it's probably...
There's probably...
Probably this insidious technology
has probably scraped over some data points
that might have included you on somewhere.
Like if it's comedian,
if it's like basically depending
on how your pictures have been tagged.
But then knowing that,
this whole conversation,
today's incidents with this Instagram post
are a good sort of trigger for me
to get unreasonably ripped over the next few months.
It's the excuse.
And this is a domino effect.
If you're getting ripped because of
AI, then I'm getting ripped because
I can't not be ripped if you two are both
ripped. Well, James, are you going to get ripped?
James, are you going to get ripped?
I'm always on the cusp of
starting to bother to get ripped, yeah.
I try and do some
exercises and I do it for about a week.
You do. Sorry, James, just to stop you there, Chris is breathing quite heavily into the microphone I do I try and do some exercises and I do it for about a week you do sorry James
just to stop you there
Chris is breathing quite heavily
into the microphone again
and I don't like it
yeah when I'm talking about
my buns of steel
we'll get
we'll get AI
to take that out
I think James is quite
naturally ripped anyway
isn't he
I think it's
I think he's got a figure
he's got a figure
like a wardrobe
that would hide a lot of sins.
Do you know what I mean?
If that was coupled with a natural inbuilt aggression,
I think you could be an absolute machine, James.
I'm like a wardrobe.
You want to know what's in my drawers?
Yeah.
You want to get in the case of your wife,
you want to just smash it straight on Marketplace
and get somebody to take it away.
Free. Free.
Free.
I can't have this taken up a room, a full room anymore.
We inherited a wardrobe when we got in this house,
and it's sort of nice, but it's just so ominously,
insanely huge that it needs to go.
It's just making the house feel too small.
It's stressing me out.
I would have thought, Chris, fitted wardrobes was more up your street.
It is, but not in this fiscal year.
I need to wait for that second Soho theatre money to come through.
You know some carpenters now, surely?
I do, I know a bit of this, bit of that.
I've got a friend.
I've got friends who do a lot of things.
While I've been away in London for a couple of days've got friends who do a lot of things we've had a, while we've been
away in London for a couple of days turns out
as a little surprise, my mother-in-law
has started a plasterer
there was a bit of the wall
in the front room, in the
dining, in the middle room, the
dining room, which was
buggered, it was like falling to bits with the plaster
so she got this as a little treat to us
she got the plasterer to come in and fix it for us which was brilliant and but apparently the
plasterer said underneath the wall there's basically something that shouldn't be going
on with the pipes a hot and a cold one next to each other he says it's fine but they shouldn't
really be touching or near to each other in the way that they are because a hot and a cold next
to each other just gradually create condensation so it's like there's not much to be done there's not much
to be done there you go and it and we'll be fine for like a good while it'll just be in a few years
do you know but the scale of work to basically move all the pipes around is like a very big job
so it's like we'll kick that can down the road which brings us to merry
christmas christmas i i've got a little format for this episode and i'm desperate to stick to it so
can we speak about so stop talking for 13 minutes okay okay if this is merry christmas merry is Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. So let's talk about the Christmas,
the Christmas of,
the Christmases of the past and yore.
What's Christmas,
what's going on?
What sort of stuff in the past
do you think about Christmas?
Like where did Christmas come from?
Are you opening this up to the group?
Yeah, this is a sort of a general chat about things to do with Christmas in the past.
Like the 80s.
You're asking us where does Christmas come from?
Yeah, that's, come on, Chris, that's pretty basic level.
Coca-Cola.
Yeah.
Have you seen that new Coca-Cola advert, by the way?
The AI one.
They did an AI version of the trucks and it's all weird
and the trucks are basically just skidding into town.
And then an AI Father Christmas comes out and he's got like a toe
for a thumb and stuff and it's all weird.
So they're just imagining Santa putting his toe in my mouth.
Why?
Why are you imagining that?
I don't know, because you'd sort of set the scene but who's done it have the coca
coa company done this i think they did it and then they withdrew it because everyone was like
yeah it's bad though they're like we did this ai one and everyone when it looks bad looks weird
it needs to be it's stealing everybody's work it produces but it does ai needs to be. It's stealing everybody's work. It produces bad. It does. AI needs to be.
You know, like in June, where AI is banned in June because it's too dangerous.
And I think that's true in the world of June.
But we should ban it, but not because it's dangerous,
because it's boring and shit.
But in June, AI is banned.
So that's why spice is important with that drug
because it's basically that it allows human consciousness to expand to the point that it
lets interstellar the human brain can compute interstellar travel right well hang on what
did they use this i never saw anyone take any spice in the films at this minute as far as i understand
they take spice in order to be able that enhances them enough to be able to fly spaceships it's
basically boiling it down to its brass tacks it's basically it's basically like it's like the if
spices like in your parlance that's like it's like doing poppers it's like doing poppers
it's like doing poppers and driving
a car
it's like taking a load of speed and writing
your dissertation
I just think that because Chris is lying on his front
a lot of the saliva is popping to the front of his mouth
and the stuff he's talking
about makes him salivate
if it's sci-fi
he's going to have a wet mouth for this whole thing
look at him he's gone no i'm a victim i'm a victim his complaints about ai and then
this like i just want you to summarize that but not mentioning june he's up now
so interesting watching him record this podcast rolling around on his bed
i've never seen this before he's
i'm like a baby with no neck muscles i can't support my own head
it's just gonna vomit straight down the camera right so, so that's Christmas in the past, is it?
June.
That can't be our Christmas chat.
He's just told us what Spice does in Dune.
That cannot be our Christmas chat.
Christmas was
invented. Chris Krampus.
Chris Krampus
was the anti-Santa Claus.
He still knocks around. He's still part of quite a lot of Chris Krampus was the anti-Santa Claus. Because I watched...
He still knocks around.
He's still part of quite a lot of European folklore
and stuff around this time, isn't he?
There's like the other lot.
He's also in the film Red One with The Rock.
Did you watch that film?
It is one of the worst things I've ever seen.
Don't make any sense.
Don't know what's going on.
Absolutely bonkers.
It's got ripped Santa, hasn't it?
Absolutely jacked to hell, J.K. Simmons being Santa. sense don't know what's going on absolutely bonkers it's got ripped santa hasn't it absolutely
jacked to hell jk simmons being santa isn't it that's that picture of him doing the barbell
curls with massive beard and massive arms was that and everyone thought it was like something
to do with schneider verse or something but was it actually for red one it's for red one and it
just seems like they got him that ripped and i'll tell you what in the film he didn't absolutely fucking batter a single person he's like an old he's in his i believe him to be in his 70s so
he's like he's building this muscle mass in his 70s that's i mean they should put him on the stamps
for my money what it's it this is a film that's not not a, but I mean, I think a lot of people are watching it, but basically it's a flop because The Rock is somebody that he needs.
He took $50 million to appear in this bad film,
which obviously made it, you know,
the profitability of it crashed into the earth.
Apparently he weeded a lot of bottles in this film.
Yeah, I'm not sure. The more I read
about this guy, I'm not sure what's
going on. What's he done? Eaten some bottles?
No, he weeded them. Did a lot of
weezing bottles. Did you have a
do you have like a sort of a go-to
Christmas film though? Obviously not read one.
Like from your childhood.
One that you're trying to convince your kid
to like, for example, Chris.
Is this... I'm just trying to convince your kid to like, for example, Chris. Is this what this is?
I'm just trying to get you to talk about Christmas in the past
rather than fucking Dune.
If you say Dune.
Yeah.
Frank Herbert's.
It's the TV series Dune Legacy.
I'll tell you what we always used to, our family always used to.
We always loved the Wallaces and Grommets and stuff.
So we were very excited about the new Wallaces and grommets and stuff so we're very excited about
about the new wallet and grommet and stuff like that so we yeah we did that like home alone
do you know like these are these are classic these are classic films planes trains and automobiles i
watched the other day that's a fun film that's isn't that thanksgiving yeah but it's all the
same isn't it so in the so did you guys have any Christmas traditions?
How did Christmas roll out?
I think from the way that we've talked about briefly our upbringings,
even though we're all from different places in the country,
I get a feeling that they were all kind of united by quite a similar thing,
which is parents that fucking absolutely came quite a lot of alcohol.
They were definitely surprised. I was like was like oh that sounds like my childhood like lots of lots of like driving
into pub space playing pool do you know what i mean this is like i don't know if there was any
pints on christmas day actually a boxing day drinking was a big thing main thing i remember
is that my i would never be able to find my Christmas present in the house before
I was giving it on Christmas Day. It was always
hidden really well. Like your Santa
one or your parents' one? The one for my
parents. Because I knew Santa didn't exist
from an early age. Of course you
did. I worked it out in my head.
I did the numbers. You did
your own research. I did my own research.
And that was without the internet and AI, if you
think about it, when I was young.
That's just really old.
It's just a bit of graph paper.
Yeah, graph paper,
a couple of books,
questioning some adults
and I found the answers
very quickly.
So you weren't really,
you know,
so I was wondering
whether there's like
a specific,
as you mentioned,
trauma that created this,
but it looks like
it's just sort of been in there
since it,
from birth.
So, God, I thought maybe, maybe it's just someone of been in there it's in tip from birth I'm sort of got a thought maybe he saw someone get in by
a bus when it was far
Is it traumatic
is it traumatic to have to get a Commodore
64 out the back of a Sierra
on Christmas Day? I don't think so
No, that's true, that's a hell of
that's a hell, I had a Commodore
64 too, James Pond
Zuul, do you know?
And then as soon as you're old enough, Leisure Suit Larry on tape.
Lads, this is where the lads come in.
This is a time when they used to make games for the lads.
And they persuade your parents they were educational.
Yeah.
And in a way, they were.
They still make Leisure Suit Larry.
There's a PS4 version. version looked it up the other day
oh yeah i think it's one of those things where people do you know where i would love if i had
some silly money i was saying this to my friend if i if i if my euro millions come in i would
love to there's a few franchises from the old and past that I would love to buy. Yeah. And sort of relaunch like Earthworm Jim.
I thought Earthworm Jim was exceptionally funny
and has a lot of potential.
Duke Nukem, because I think that's where society is going.
I think that did have a redo, didn't it?
Yeah, but it was very bad.
But basically there was a big chunk of history the last 20 years
where Duke Nukem, the character, was not right for our society.
But now that society is only boys are being born
and it's like the reign of the incels looms,
Duke Nukem's about to come back big time.
And the thing is, he's not actually sexist
because Duke Nukem is trying to save the babes.
And that's something that the woke mind virus lot
often wouldn't pick up on that nuance.
Is it sexist to give a stripper money?
Exactly.
And say, shake it, baby?
Shake it, baby.
Yeah.
Lots of secrets in those games.
That's why I like them.
There was something else I wanted to say about Christmas stuff,
Christmas traditions.
Did you like always,
so you didn't care about Christmas
from almost day dot, but we'd always, my dad would be,
my dad was, it was and is a key driving force of Christmas
and he would be up too excited, too excited up at three,
four in the morning.
Like he would always be up before it was on christmas day he'd always go
down he'd have he'd do a cup of tea and a bacon sarnie type thing and he'd be waiting for us to
get up and now they're coming around ours for christmas so you're like they're like yeah he's
just the same like still up whereas i'm i'm just a different type of dad i'm like yeah well what
what have you done decorations wise have you obviously you obviously created... We've got, well, I mean, again, this is £2,000 on a carpet,
so we've got a carpet.
There's two bedrooms.
That's not just one mad carpet.
But it's an expensive carpet downstairs.
But we've done that, so we've got the tree up.
We've had a bit of plastering done.
We've painted the room green.
It's a nice...
Our house is a mad bits
and pieces house but we're doing little bits and we've put up but you've got decorations out there
haven't you i assume both of you have got real trees as well that's how i see you both in the
countryside yeah but i would have been like let's just get a plastic tree and just keep it and use
it for 20 years but nicola's like she's nicola's coming like a wrecking ball
into my traditional vision yeah so we've got a brand new we go cut the tree down and it's wicked
there's a place like fields that grow in the fells there was and you go and you like tag it and then
some like mad lad with a chainsaw comes around and like oh right chainsaws it down in front of you
and then runs it through a big thing and you take it home. It's kind of cool.
But there's a lot of Christmas traditions.
I remember on Christmas Day when I lived in Bradford when I was younger,
because my dad's like one of seven,
and a lot of them lived in the same bit of Bradford. So basically on Christmas, all the men,
all the Cantrell men would go out on Christmas Day for two, three pints, you know, for a few hours.
And when Nicola came on the scene, she was like, no.
No, we're not doing that.
And I was like, yeah, you know what?
You're absolutely right.
I don't think I've ever been in the pub on Christmas.
Christmas Day, Christmas Eve.
Yeah, that was a big thing.
Like when I was a teen, late teen, early twenties, Christmas Eve. Yeah, that was a big thing. Like when I was a teen, late teen,
early twenties,
Christmas Eve.
I could never do it.
So my mates used to go on,
you know,
I'd get so out of my mind,
drunk,
that Christmas mornings
are very tough.
I understand as well,
like when you're,
when you're like 18
and I don't know,
my brother was always
four years younger,
so I didn't want to be 18
and just totally
out of my mind.
Especially,
it sounds like when you'd be
coming home, your dad would be
up. Yeah.
His cup of tea welcoming you in.
He'd think I was Santa.
Jingle, jingle.
What time are you going to get up on Christmas Day
then you guys? Have you got to get stuff ready?
It'll be early.
It'll be, we've got
my mum and dad around and then we've got
Nicola's mum and dad and brother around on Christmas Day. We'll be up very early like my mum and dad around and then we've got Nicola's mum and dad
and brother around
on Christmas day
we'll be up very early
and a lot of it
will be
basically
wrestling the boy
to a time
but basically
we kind of have to be
led by him
but
if it
there's a point
where we have to be like
no this is too early
do you know
but if
if it's a
like it normally
would be one for getting
up around six o'clock so if that becomes five o'clock then we're just gonna kind of have to roll with it because
it's we can't put that genie back on the box on christmas day but if it's like three o'clock then
piss off you can go back to bed for an hour do you know what i mean like that's sort of a balancing
act but you really just have to surrender to it. And it's Christmas and you're a bit tired.
And I,
I,
I would be one to hit like a little Christmas rum based cocktail quite early,
you know,
just to be a bit fuzzy for the first hour or whatever.
And then you just kind of ride the day through.
I said to Nicola,
I said,
if you want me to get out of your hair for a couple of hours,
I could go down to the pub down the road.
Again, she said, no, absolutely not.
Yeah, I think we'll do that.
And then it's like, I'm basically just trying to get to six o'clock
to watch Wallace and Gromit.
And then I think that's Christmas done.
6pm.
It's on at 6pm.
So that's like what, what, six till eight or something?
And you're like, you know what?
But pass it back.
I hate eating too much on Christmas.
I hate it.
I hate being overly full.
I don't enjoy it.
Do you know what I mean?
So if you don't, I have to juggle, not juggle it,
but be very careful on Christmas day.
Because it's like we'll have canapes and stuff like that.
Nicola does like, we're doing croquettes and these little
Tostini type things.
It's really nice and stuff. But if I'm not careful,
then I can overfill and be sort of just in a state of,
just a lot of Christmas memories to me are just like
largely feeling uncomfortable for some reason.
I mean, that is actually the point of it, isn't it?
When it was a sort of pagan festival,
it was like using up a lot of the stuff they'd stored,
not using it up,
but there's like a feast of stuff that they'd stored over the winter and they're like right let's fucking get them all
out let's have a good one yeah i guess because it's around the time that is it the the days start
yeah yeah that's it days start getting 21st would have been the shortest day of the year my head's
already in january is a clear time for a clean slate in terms of, because I've been like fannying around in London and stuff
and that is little cocktails and like a pizza there and that,
do you know what I mean?
And you're like, I need to get back to.
Where are you having these little cocktails in London?
You never told me you,
you never even told me you were down the last couple of days.
Well, yeah, but we're doing the recordings all day
from like dawn till dusk.
Do you mean the cans from M&S?
No, but we have had those.
They're like, it's the only play,
but I want to do this Christmas.
I do have a question though.
What are you two lads doing in lieu of what we had growing up,
which is the Christmas Radio Times?
Got it.
To figure out your tea.
You've got it, it's still going.
Got the Christmas Radio Times.
We've got four different coloured highlighters and i'm trying to implement a system where everyone goes through
with their own color highlighter highlights it it's only really me and my wife have done that
and the boys the boys are just right in there
they're just written netflix we'll watch netflix Well, all of it's available on streaming again afterwards anyway, isn't it?
We're going to be at the in-laws and
their telly
internet situation is poor.
Because it's an old house
so it's got thick walls so it doesn't
let the internet through.
Have they got a DVD player? Yes.
I think so. And probably a couple of the
Mission Impossible films. You can borrow some of my
Criterion collection if you like.
Lads, it's time to get reacquainted with a little thing
I like to call Army of Darkness,
aka Evil Dead 3.
The Wong Kar Wai box set for the boys.
Get a Takeshi Mike?
This film is irreversible.
Right, go on then, Chris.
Sorry, Christmas past.
So that was Christmas past.
And now, Sonil, what we're going to move on to now
is talking about Christmas present,
which is right now a closely main present.
Has everybody got everyone's presents and stuff?
All nailed.
I panicked just now,
just before this call,
I panicked because I'd gotten my,
I got my wife,
she doesn't listen to this.
I got my wife a present of like a,
a journal-y type thing.
And I absolutely panicked that I put the wrong year on it.
Cause you can like,
you know,
put your,
you know,
personalize it.
I thought I'd just put 2024
no okay could be
really interested if
you put 2089 or
something like that
like just a random
yeah what a mad
like far future
yeah yeah do you
know I would be
happy with someone
if they got me a
year dive and it
said 13 first
eight on it you
know that's Pete
like sort of black
deaf here with that
you know you
certainly write in a
different style wouldn't you yeah like hey nonny nonny type stuff you know, that's Pete, like sort of black death over that, you know. You'd certainly write in a different style,
wouldn't you?
Yeah,
like,
hey,
nonny nonny type stuff,
you know.
So you've got that,
I've got,
what are we,
me and Nicola aren't really
doing presents this year,
but I've got a couple
of little bits.
Does,
does she know that?
Yes,
because we discussed it.
Because we basically, I bought myself a comic book
when I was in London and was like, can you buy me this?
Because I want to read it.
And she went, yeah.
So we basically done something like that.
And the thing-
What was it?
It's called The Hobstown Mysteries.
And I don't know what it is yet.
Just a lot about the cover.
Fired off a lot of excited things in my brain.
It's got like, it's about, it's something about a small town.
It's got mysteries in it.
It's got like, there's a man wearing boxer shorts,
wearing a mask and stuff.
And I was like, this seems like, I mean,
I had to check the name to be like,
have I actually written this?
And you're like, no, it's actually, it's another person.
So we're doing that. But the big thing is, you know, we're living in this? And you're like, no, it's actually, it's another person. So we're doing that.
But the big thing is, you know, we're living in a chaos house
and stuff like that.
So we're getting and sort of basically pooling the money to buy an Uber.
So Nicola has largely picked up, you know,
the mental load of starting all Christmas because I've just been
swatting around in London having little cocktails.
Swatting around.
Don't delete the bit about pizzas and little cocktails.
But, yes.
So we've done that,
and we've got to get a few little bits and pieces.
The thing is, I've got as well, it's Christmas,
but it's my dad's birthday.
Your dad's Jesus.
Yeah.
No, his dad's birthday, like, yesterday,
and it's just all he wants is a card.
But I don't know.
Obviously, I'm not lying on there.
I'm not falling on the crutch that he's ADHD
because I definitely am being diagnosed with it.
But it would be brilliant to use it as an excuse
when I get distracted.
I find remembering birthdays almost unfathomably difficult.
I can't do it you're just a recurring appointment
in your google calendar i've done that now but basically what i want what i've always wanted to
do with presents is do the year's shopping but in like a mad month you know like march or april
have it all lined up in a box yeah yeah and then forget to forget to forget about the box, you know.
I think that's a solution, just like tackling it.
So then it's like unleash hell on 1st of December.
Send everything to everyone, like a barrage of arrows.
You don't do cards, do you?
I can't remember general birthdays.
I can't do cards.
It's not the stage of my life where I can do cards.
I can't do cards.
I can't read board game rules.
These are things that I really want to be good at. But also as I've got older,
just agreed not to punish myself for being bad at this sort of stuff.
Although I do have to, you know, moon pig, let my dad down,
not me.
I'm right.
Okay.
That's the story,
is it?
That's the official line.
What about you,
Sunil?
What presents have you got?
I don't,
I mean, I'm going home to my mother's for Christmas,
but she doesn't,
we don't really do Christmas presents,
but I did this year.
I bought her like an,
After you shattered them with the Santa news.
After you showed her a presentation with a pie chart another telescopic like a telescopic pointer global map on there
saying impossible impossible yeah so in conclusion impossible
no but i got a fancy candle today so I'll just give her that.
London's good for fancy candles.
Oh, yes.
I went to a shop called Space NK,
which seems to be a shop of fancy smelling things.
It's very nice.
I was there with a friend who basically said,
get that, that'll do.
And I looked at the price and I said, fuck off.
And then she said, no, no, definitely.
And I went, right, fine and are you so you're going home
and are you
going to in-laws
and you're going to in-laws
yeah and we're hosting
and we've got like
loads of family around
so we've got like
there's going to be four kids
so it's going to be a very kid
do you mingle
which
do you mingle the sides
of the family
like as in
do you have like
yes
your family mixed
with the wife's family
yes
so that was Christmas past.
And then it seamlessly blended into Christmas present.
Yeah, yeah.
The important thing for you to think about, Sonil,
is that these are three distinct sections.
So where does that bring us up to?
Someone's done his books.
Oh, someone's done his books. Oh, someone's done his books.
Oh, where's my phone?
I need my phone.
Shall I ring it?
Oh, I've got it here.
Right.
It's rolling around on the bed again.
Listener, he's rolling around on the bed again.
He's kicked his trousers off.
I'm having a good time.
Right.
No, the trousers are on.
The trousers are on.
This is safe.
People are emailing it.
People are emailing this podcast, you know.
It's a huge hit. You're not
sharing any of that with us. I know
I've been catching up, I've been away, but from now on
I'm sort of back and I'm getting my head around
it. Right, so the Ghost
of Christmas Future. So we've already talked
about it. The forbidden
knowledge that is AI.
The deep forbidden tech.
The list, right, so we were contacted
it was sent an email by a listener called Kate,
who has basically asked an internet machine, is it sentient?
Is it not?
Can it outwit a human being?
But what she's done is she's asked an AI, a chat GPT or whatever,
to write a Christmas story in the style of me.
So I'm just going to read it now and we can sort of see
whether it's done a good job.
And we'll see if we can replace you going forward, I guess.
I've got a friend who did.
He was making a podcast and he used like an AI,
he created like an AI model of Richard,
not Richard Attenborough, he's the actor david attenborough it was built anyway so if we can get our voices modeled
and get them chained to my all of the words but that's what there's there's ai scams that
basically scam people's parents with their kids voices on the phone yeah no no i understand that
and what i want to know is how we get in on that.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, what's it called?
Like, latent income stream.
Ticking away in the background.
Passive income.
This is the absolute cuss-to-fuck Christmas catastrophe
by Chris Cantrell as prompted by Kate.
So this is me speaking.
Right.
Gather round, you magnificent bastards because
i need to tell you about the most batshit mental christmas that ever decided to shit itself inside
out wow okay yeah and yes i know christmas is already weird as tits with the whole flying
reindeer bollocks but this one takes the fucking biscuit wipes its ass with it and then questions the
entire concept of digestive systems where do you want us to jump in here because i think i don't
know like that's the first that's the first paragraph i i was just thinking i have heard
you say tits a lot so that makes sense bollocks less so no that's because you say i'm gonna draw
pictures with eight tits and i'm saying
i'm not drawing eight i've only ever said i'm drawing eight tits in response to you accusing
me of drawing pictures with eight tits did you say it or not i think the record would show but
but if it was like i would get my lawyer to say under like extenuating circumstances under duress
so far it's like, I always think with,
I think when you find your voice as a comedian,
I remember thinking that some of the jokes that I'd tell,
if they were written down on a bit of paper,
would be gibberish to someone else.
And I thought, you know, that's when I sort of found my thing,
because I can say this and it's funny,
but it would look like the insane rampage of a serial killer
if someone else were to stumble upon it written down.
And that's what this feels like a little bit.
Let me do a little bit more.
So there's this poor sod called Sam who works at this pissing garden centre.
Are you not Miss Blue normally, are you?
No, I don't like, yeah.
Right in the Christmas department, surrounded by artificial trees that look like they were assembled
by a committee of arseholes who'd been drinking paint thinner.
Proper shit trees, mate.
The kind that makes you question everything you know about photosynthesis.
That's, I mean, I'm warming to that.
That sounds more Chris.
That could be me.
That last bit, the bit about photosynthesis, that could be me.
It's Christmas Eve
and Sam's about to tell this festive
hellscape to go fuck itself for another
year, where this absolutely wankered
looking owl flies
in through the door. Now, this
isn't the first time I've written about an owl
this week. Now, this
isn't your standard twatting owl.
This magnificent feathery dickhead
is wearing a tiny waistcoat
and adjusting it like some bellend about to pitch on Dragon's Den.
That's a little bit too blue.
It reads like you're drunk.
Which is why, you know, I don't want to drink now.
The owl, this absolute champagne socialist of the bird world,
lands on a display of reduced Christmas puddings and says,
and I swear on everything holy and profane,
you've been selected to be this year's emergency backup father Christmas,
you lucky bastard.
Sam's response, quite reasonably, is,
what in the name of Satan's sweaty ball bag?
Oh, man, there's still so much to go.
I mean, I'm not buying it.
I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't believe it's you.
You're not yet talking about Dune.
You see, if I wrote,
if me or James read that in our voices,
it wouldn't clearly be Chris Cantrell's,
you know, writing.
Are there any bits that jump out
as being particularly you?
Like I thought the tree bit sounded
there's a bit further down so so i can put this i get the i think we can get the vibe yeah we can
get the the the the crutch i can put the full i'll put i'll put the full thing in the discord group
for them to pour over but there's a bit like almost where it's someone saying, I've got three cans of Monster battling it out in my bloodstream
and enough anxiety to power a small city of nervous breakdowns.
And I thought, I thought that is fucking literature.
That's you very much.
I don't know much about art.
It makes you wonder if, because I do think about this all the time,
like where is this?
I think the thing with, this is a fun thing to do rather than a laugh but this has a machine has scraped stuff that i've done
from various places i wonder if there's like stuff that i've done like old huge old sets or
something like that i basically i wonder whether this is a version of me
that I have matured out of.
Yeah.
Maybe there's some stuff.
Because I often think, like, I have to sort of,
to some degree, make a go of this.
Because I've done, me and Amy did a video about Christmas
where we did, like, a two-minute rap about cum.
It's like, I can't go back to the world of work traditionally.
I wonder whether it's basically stuff from, really, It's like I can't go back to the world of work traditionally.
I wonder whether it's basically stuff from really 10 years ago that are data points in this.
And you're like, like now, with my last show, I think,
very, very purposefully, I'm not swearing in it a lot
because I don't need it.
But where it has got you is that it's quite surreal
and that's what you do And not many other people do.
What is it?
Doesn't it give a little sort of like,
like a,
an outline of what it did at the end?
Yeah.
It says,
it says,
I've written,
this is the robot.
This is the machine talking to Neo.
I've written this Christmas tale,
maintaining Chris's signature style with absurdist humour,
creative profanity,
profanity and surreal situations.
And you're like, you know what?
If that was written up in the Times, I'd be like,
slap it in the press pack.
There you go.
I think that's unsettling, but fun.
Undeniably fun.
Thank you, Kate.
Chris, it's good to know that you've got quite a strong style
that can be done like that.
I mean, a lot of, you know.
But I don't think it can.
The thing is, like, you know, with AI coming for jobs
and stuff like that, it's largely terrifying.
But I'm not as nervous as some people probably should be.
Do you know, like, these people,
when we were dealing with estate agents and mortgage brokers,
you're like, lads, head on the chopping block, please.
The sooner that your jobs get replaced by a fucking computer,
the better, because you are bad at this.
Whereas I do believe there's so many jobs like that
that are knocking around that are going to be before.
Like, I feel largely unfettered by AI at the minute
because they're not making great inroads, as I see it,
into creative spaces.
But that could change.
I just believe in my gut that largely AI is...
I heard someone describe it.
It was like some sort of thinker man.
AI isn't necessarily like some existential threat it's pollution if you think
of it's like plastic in the ocean it's overwhelming the internet and if you go on any social media
site it's just full of it now and you start to see it everywhere also when i was in edinburgh
i noticed that you know there's all these like tat shops that are like highland type stuff well
just like the same ones that you
were getting london but the scottish equivalent they were full of ai generated images you know
of like highland cows photorealistic we do bees and that we do bees yeah but highland cow was
doing like on a surfboard or something i could say i could see that they were creating, no one's made this image.
It's like an AI generated thing that someone has just ran through,
printed off high res and then printed them in frames,
like in those tat shops.
So it's not like, you know, I don't know.
I don't know.
A chilling omen of the future, Christmas future.
I think this is reflecting everyone's Christmas dinner conversation,
really, isn't it?
It's going to be about AI.
Someone's going to be banging on about AI.
Yeah.
Someone in the house is banging on about AI
and nobody understands it at all.
And Merry Christmas to you both and to all of our listeners.
Yes.
Yes, Chris.
Merry Christmas.
Yeah, Merry Christmas.
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Hang about, who's this tugging at my sleeve?
It's Tiny Tim. What's up, young man?
A Merry Christmas
to us all. God bless
us, everyone.
And have you got any
good power bank recommendations?
What a wonderful thing that's happened.
Merry Christmas.
Aww. Merry Christmas, everybody.
Merry Christmas to you all.
And we'll see you soon.
Merry Christmas.
I need to cough.
I need to cough.
Okay, I'm back.
Was that a cough?
I muted. Good, because otherwise,. Was that a cough? I muted.
Good, because otherwise you don't know what coughing is.
It was like you were turning to have your photo taken.
It was so delicate.
It's like those people that do incredibly silent sneezes.
Don't trust them.
And then you're causing internal damage.
Let it out.
It's one of the few things that you can just enjoy.
Not just blowing up your own diaphragm quietly.
Yeah.
When they like try and completely block their nose off
and you just hear like an atom bomb going off in a documentary,
three houses down.
Yeah, but that's a brilliant sound effect, by the way.
That really sums up an image.
Bong.
Like that.