Ryth - I Confronted The Illegal Brainrot Predator.

Episode Date: April 19, 2025

I Confronted The Illegal Brainrot Predator.

Exactly. If you scroll onto a character and the gym, and your first thought is, oh my God, that's a child and then it's immediately getting sexualized, then clearly you are doing something wrong to push the age of this character. So why the fuck are you not doing it for the other characters that you have actively sucking cock on your shorts? I know what the ages of your characters are. If it looks, talks, and acts like a child, then it's a child. I don't give a fuck what your lore is. Parents supervision on an app that you need to be 14 to have an account.

Kids still see your shit. We've been two years making this lore, and we started from the beginning. considering this talk. Somebody's not able to get two years of lore from watching one video. Meaning more channels neither in mind. Yeah, well, that little dog you have under the table literally looks like a child. Exactly. To you, maybe.

The dog looks to it. Everybody, everybody thinks it looks like a kid. Get the fuck out of it. Now, I actually leave. All of us are leaving thinking you're a pedophile. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay.

All right, people, what's up? I just finished talking to the illegal BrainRot Animator. Now, audience, the subject of today's video is once again Shappy Sway. To quickly catch everybody up to what is going on in this whole situation, Shappy Sway makes adult-themed content with a kid's art style. YouTubers like Glider Guy, Bito, M.K. and me were calling out this behavior, explaining that content like this should simply not be around children. And because of our YouTube videos reacting to Shappie Sway, he got notified of the situation.

and he got very pissed off at all of us making multiple community posts and comments defending himself. In response to his crash out in response to us, we responded to him. And whenever Shappi saw our response videos completely embarrassing him, he then decided to try and illegally copyright strike my YouTube channel alongside Glider Guy. At this point in the controversy, we decided to hop in a call and discuss our differences. Questions involving what is the real age rating of his content? Going over the illegal. Copyright Strikes that was sent to my YouTube channel.

His involvement with another animation predator that goes by the name Rocky Raccoon. And also a very disturbing conversation about child porn and whether or not he's a predator. This podcast episode you are going to watch is going to feature all of that. So everybody grab your popcorn because you are about to watch a five-man war zone. Let's begin. Sorry for starting 20 minutes earlier. We have really a lot of stuff to do today. So I thought it would be nice if we had maybe a little bit more time, you know?

No, you're good. I understand. You're a busy guy. Yeah, yeah. We are really overwhelmed lately with projects and stuff, a part of, like, outside of our shows and so on. Industries and so on. Yeah. Demanding. Don't worry. Don't worry. So where are you guys? Like, I mean, which countries? Is that possible to be mentioned or better not? No, that's fine. We're in the U.S. M.K. is British.

I'm the UK. Yeah. Okay. So. Australian. I know. So we got Australia, UK and USA. That's cool. So like most main English speaking countries, that's nice. My English is a bit broken because I'm not obviously not a native speaker either. Yeah, I'm actually from you. Yeah. Yeah, I think we, yeah, the comments were kind of yeah. No, no, but I don't write the comments on social media most of the times. It's, it's, there's a person doing that like, like I mentioned on the on the chat, but that was still, you know, you will,

during the interview you will see that I'm not like the most native English speaker. Though for a person that is actually Italian is not so bad, I don't have this crazy accent, you know, so it's actually okay. All right. So it's okay. I forgot like to communicate with customers and to communicate with the team is actually good enough. So, um, how do you do this thing? Like, like, how do you want to start? We have some questions that we've prepared. Yeah.

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get some bullet points. Okay, let's go for it. I don't know. You can start whenever you like. Yeah, Rith, you can start. All right, so my first question is like, what would you say is like the purpose of your channel? And what exactly is, what would be the rating that you would give the content across what you make?

Like, because I know on Instagram, it says like 18 plus and then on YouTube you're saying 13 plus. So what's the actual rating here? Okay, so I'll give you some background first and how we started this because it was actually a project that started like something else from some business brand that was doing some kind of investments here and there. And it was like their mascot and they had this type project that anyways, they contacted us to develop at first. Very, very pushed and like humor wise. You listen, I hate to interrupt, right? But the question I was asking is like, what are you rating your content? Like I get it, the whole backstory and all this other stuff.

But like the content you are putting out today on Instagram and like YouTube and shit like that, is it 18 plus or is it 13? So in my opinion and in our opinion in general, we are not showing graphic stuff. Of course, the humor is really, really, really mostly, I would say, sexual based and very, very, very tough jokes sometimes. which I get that. But we actually in YouTube follow the policies that they give us. And like I said, I would do the same in other social media

if I could, which is like people that are 14 and above if they have the permission of their parents, they do already consume a lot of shows like that. And we actually want that kind of audience, not mainly, but also to be part of a future show that is not going to be just

sexual jokes or whatever, but actually with a background story and someone more like focus on family guy or other other shows like that go with that. So you'd say it's like 13, you'd say it's like 13 plus. I would say, I would say, you'd say your content isn't 18 plus specifically. I would say some videos, which are actually, um, at this moment. Yeah. There's one age restricted video on your channel.

You have one that's like cool. There is one. Yeah. And that was because YouTube age restricted it. No, no, no. That's the thing is that if you're, if you're, if you're, claiming that some of your, some of your videos are 13 plus, some of them are 18 plus. What would you say is the medium like, is it 13 plus? Is it 18 plus? What would you say

your rating would be? Most of the channel, most of the channel in, in our opinion, at least, it goes into content that is 13 plus of 14 years old and above. Of course. There are a few videos, for example, there is this video that we tried to make, which we were trying to make another show like more like happy three friends and more like based on bullying and all that that is very bloody the episode and we we tried once and we didn't really like the outcome we posted it and that actually for example is if we talk about monetizing it's limited because of the images that are really really bloody and gore I think that the one that was age restricted is gore related some getting his arms pulled off or something so okay I get what you're saying but so my question

for this. If you think that your content is overall 13 plus do you think that it is, let's say, appropriate, do you think that it's appropriate to siphon your 13 to 17? You know, those are still minors. You think it's

appropriate to siphon them over to your Patreon, which you are very much doing. Which is very much porn. I mean, I mean, it is just rate up porn, especially on your Twitter as well. Another thing that is actively available on your channel.

Do you think that that is appropriate? Or do you think that you should have 18 plus guidelines because you're siphoning them to porn? I think what's the show in social media and how the other part of Patreon came out is totally separate things. Of course, we have the link in social media and all that. Mostly we sponsored that on Instagram and so on on stories.

And I think it's two really separated things. For example, if you try to click... But it's very not. though, those two things are very much connected because you have links connecting them. I mean, they are very connected. So I would say that if you are connecting your porn to your 13 plus content, you are very much siphoning people over there. Whether, I mean, whether you are actively doing it on purpose or not, there is a link. You are connecting the two things. Do you think that's appropriate. Okay, let's think about it like this. So an only fans girl, for example, their content may not be bad on

YouTube. So McKinley Richardson, like all them, the Jack Doherty crew, Millow Row. They, they, they, might not be shocking on YouTube, but they are siphoning their kid audience over to their only fans. Like that's the top of- They don't even have to mention it. They may not have credit cards. But it's still the potential that they- That's still problematic. It is very much. Like if your Patreon links were on your Instagram because you did limit it to 18 plus,

correct? Yeah. Right. That's correct. Okay, yeah. So because your Patreon is linked to your Instagram, that's fine. Okay, it's limited to 18 plus. That's cool.

But you shouldn't have your. 18 plus content on your links, very easy, easy clickable links that you brand to your YouTube channel as 13 plus, 13 to 17, still kids, obviously. They see your videos and they have the links right there. And they have very easy access to your link tree, which leads to your Twitter, which we know what's on your Twitter. It's fucking porn. I mean, personally, it's not appropriate.

Yeah. One of my, one of the bigger questions I had was that, like, if you have any type of different content on Instagram, because I checked and there's not really much that's different, but your Instagram is 18 plus and you have the same content on YouTube but it's PG-13. I... I... I explain that you can't set it not made for kids on Instagram. Okay, so like on the content itself on Patreon and so on.

And towards YouTube itself, and we're talking about YouTube, the platform itself, like when you actually have an account that is linked to it and you click on it and you get to open the Patreon, first of all, all, it is censored, and then you receive a message saying to access this link, you need to be at least 18 or more, and you need to accept the policies. Now, it means that if people that are under 18 years old click on that link, they actually should just get out of it because they have an alert that actually advise them that, hey, this content is not for you. Go back to social media because you're not 18.

That's all well and good. It's all well and good, like, leaving the roadblocks, but at the end of the day, It's still possible for them to go and get it. I'm not. It's not filtering things very well because I can easily go to pornhub.com and it'll say you have to be 18. And if I was like 15 years old, I can still hit enter and I'll enter porn hub. It doesn't matter. That's what probably tons of teenagers do.

That's what probably we've done when we were teenagers. I mean, that's not the point. Like what I want to explain is that, yeah, there is links in our social media that will actually bring you to these pages where there is illustrations more like hentai wise if you want to compare it with something of our animations but still when you actually open those links there is actually legal legal things that you need to accept you just need to press accept is true but that doesn't mean that okay I'm not I am absolutely not saying that the act of miners clicking to get into Patreon is your fault I'm not saying

that at all that's definitely not your fault if they are clicking it they're saying yes jump in that's that's on them and i totally agree but at the end of the day you are still the one siphoning them to that page also what do you have to say about the twitter what have to say about the twitter because i mean if your content is 13 plus you are still technically sending minors to a twitter that is full of uncensored porn to enter no no no first of all twitter if you see the post they are censor you need to click to see them same same way but no they're not there's there's there's one uncensored i promise you there's multiple uncensored There are, there are, I'll give you the, I'll give you, like, I'll give you, like, I'll give you

the fact that, yes, there are some censored. I've seen some censored ones. Sometimes there's multiple that are. Sometimes it's true that we have, yeah, that's true. Sometimes it's true that we have faced problems with Twitter for that. But that's not also our fault, you know, we have actually contacted Twitter several times with that. They censor some and then suddenly they are not censored, you know?

Like, you know what Twitter. The best idea to do is just modify the image itself and, like, actually censor yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, this is just completely pointless. This is just completely pointless. I mean, at the end of the day, if you're 13, you click on this Twitter. You can still click on the image and view it. I mean, it's whatever.

My whole point is that you are still siphoning them over to porn sites. It doesn't matter if this flimsy little piece of paper tries to keep them out. At the end of the day, you are still siphoning them towards porn accounts. So do you think that your channel should be 13 plus or should it be 18 plus? I think that my social media, like I said, 13 plus with, of, I just think you're wrong. I just don't think that's the right answer. Well, you can think what you what you consider.

Anyways, I mean, I guess it's clear. We're not going to come to a conclusion here. No, no, no. Like, we're not going to say that we agree. The links definitely shouldn't be a thing. Like, siphoning links. No, they shouldn't be a thing. Oh, okay.

Or if you wanted to, because I understand that there's a lot of money to be made there. If you wanted to, if you wanted to send links to your page on. At the end of your own videos, which is kind of confusing to me, given that Bito literally said there's straight up porn on your channel on Twitter. Yeah, there is. I mean, I think, listen, listen, listen, My whole point is if you want to still siphon people towards that, because there's definitely money there, you should just, you should just restrict your channel to 18 plus. Because at the end of the day, your end goal is to get people to click on these links and pay you.

Am I wrong for that? Is that not your end goal? It's a part of it, but we are not actually asking mine. So if you're in goal is to get people to click on this link to porn, then I am under the belief that every single person you are trying to coerce into looking at porn should be 18. is in fact a button for that on every single video that you post that could do that. Can I explain how it works without being for two seconds? Once you're done with that, we'll just close that. We'll close this point out.

Yeah, yeah, we can go for something else. We can go for something else. But anyways, so you can actually say that it's a part of it. We do many other things. It's a small part of it. We started it for certain reasons and for some communities that actually were very supportive to our content, communities made of adults, mostly. And actually, the thing is that this adults that were required, this content at first,

we thought it was a joke and then we started to do it. We enjoy doing it. We enjoy sharing it. They enjoy actually consuming it. And that's cool. And still the same. You know, you click on the leak. It says, are you 18 years old or older?

By continuing, you may see adult images, videos, writing another media, which in our channel, you can actually, you need to pay for it. Like, you need to give your data and you need to actually put your credit card in it. to pay for it. Not on Twitter. Of course on Twitter, not, but Twitter is not an app for kids. Twitter, there is tons of news.

You can be a kid on it. I mean, I agree that it's not four kids, but you can still be a child. You can definitely be a kid on Twitter. But you could be what you could be or not. That's actually not the point of the app itself. I understand the point. It's not for children.

That is true. Yeah, you get into Twitter, you get into Twitter and if the only problem was us, which is not, it's like, it's an app for adults. There is core stuff. there is war stuff, there is war crimes. There is videos about everything since Elon Musk brought it.

Like you can post basically everything there because it has become a pretty much political app in a way and also an app to divulgate media for adults, not for kids, neither for teens. Neither is our Patreon for teens like it says very clearly when you open it as well. It's not like you can see Patreon for free. You need to subscribe to it. By subscribing to it, you need absolutely to give your credit card naming credentials. And a part of that, like, if there is teenagers watching porn in our patron or watching porn in the hub, in both ways, I really hope that parents know that and they are actually monitoring on what they are consuming at home,

especially for one very important thing that actually we usually, and not usually, sorry, we deeply think of. And it's, you get into the hub, you get tons of teenagers, like I said, as a teenager, I consume, I consume pornography. you consume pornography. Don't tell me you didn't. Because, I mean, that's what teenagers do after a certain age, you know. And they talk about it with friends and all that. Anyways, the hub is free. We are not free. You can't see our content without paying, wait a moment, please. Can on Twitter.

I mean, Twitter is another story. Like I said, Twitter is not an app for teenagers, either for kids. Like, the Twitter is an app for grown-ass adults. And most of them are still siphoning kids to it. No, I mean, I see his point. His point is true. No, I mean, exactly. for grown people. Let me finish.

We are not saving anything. Like, if you get on Twitter and you see an image because suddenly Twitter decides to uncensure it, when it was censor most of the time, most of them are, like, that's not our problem. Neither, you know, like Twitter should have more restrictive things on posts that are sensitive. We're not just talking about sexual posts, but I've seen, I can't probably mention this if you're going to post on YouTube, but, I mean, I've seen these member kids from the war and stuff there have cinemas just that are really really really drastically so it's definitely a news app not made for kids neither for super young teenagers that is it still is possible to be access that's

that tweeters problem that's something that tweeters need to solve and this is this is my thing and this is kind of like my whole point of this like this entire this entire point every time that I asked a question of do you think that your channel you just immediately point the finger to every other app no no no no I'm still not looking at the fact that you are siphoning kids towards these apps. I don't give a shit what those apps do on their side. I'm saying on your side, you are still sending people to those apps where PWA is readily available. Let them talk.

Let them talk. Let me talk, please. No, no, you'm talking about Bito. You talk. You talk plenty. Bito, talk. You've done quite a bit. And my whole point is that you are, you are continuing to siphon kids over to places

where there is porn. I mean, at the end of the day, whether you want to admit it, you are. You are sending kids to places where there is porn. I do not give a single shit what they do on their end. Why point is your end. You are sending kids to places where there is porn. I do not think your channel is 13 plus. If you did not have the porn part, I would totally agree with you. It is 13 plus. Kind of cringe a little, a little weird, but it's fine, right? But you still make porn of these characters. Of course we do, but it's for an audience. And you are sending

are actively keeping the links there for your kid audience. That's our issue. That's our issue with it. We don't have kids. That's the other thing. Like if there is kids, you do that. You have a large child. You do. You have a massive child audience. If you look into your statistics at all, you will know this. If you read comments, you will know this. I have multiple occasions, clicked on a Shappi video, went to the comment section, clicked on the first comment, and it is a clear child who was posted content before. You have a very large child audience.

You have a very large child audience. We don't. That is the point of, that is YouTube. At the end of the day, that is YouTube. You need to have the demographics of our channel. The biggest demographic on YouTube is children, Shappi. So either age restrict your content that you're singing in the porn chat. You've had 10 million, you've had more than 10 million views on your channel, right, Chapie?

Like you have a ton of the data. You have way too much of the data. To even still be entertaining this, you have way too much of the data. You know you're lying. You know your demographic is kids. You're not right. And actually, we also use YouTube before. So you have a ton of adults in your audience?

You have a 9%? I can tell you exactly what we had in the last week. in the last 30 days because I have it. I can see it. I can share it. It doesn't matter. But like we have 9% of people that are 13 to 17 years old. 25% of it's the truth. Then if they lie about their age, everybody knows that.

Yeah, it's bullshit. My audience is 35 to 44 and you know that my audience is not adults. And you know what, Shepit, listen, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. It's not your fault. If they lie about their age and they get into age-restricting content, that is not your fault. I 100% agree. But I do think it.

It is totally on you to age restrict your content and at least, at least take the steps to do all that you can do on your own. Because here's the thing. You can do this shit and bro, there will always be minors that are lying and click on shit. I don't think that's your fault at all. But you are not doing anything to keep them away. And that is your fault. As soon as they start to ask the ID to make accounts, that problem will be solved. Definitely.

But what I'm saying, first of all, and it's a very important point, we have 4,000 followers in YouTube and hundreds of thousands on Instagram. We barely use YouTube anyways. Like most of the people that are coming to see our videos now, fortunately or unfortunately or both, come from your channels for actually the criticism videos you made and so on. You know what I mean? Oh, oh, come on, dude. That is such a shit point. That is such a bad point.

That is such a fucking bad point. Yeah, no, move on. That is the dumbest thing. I'm not going to moron. Let's finish to talk about this because it's not a dumb point. It's actually the truth. It is quite a bad point. It is a fucking terrible point.

That is a fucking terrible. Yes or no. Do you have 18 plus links into your YouTube channel? Do you have 18 plus links? We have restricted 18 plus links that you need to accept. Okay. And what is your YouTube channel? Is that 13 plus?

Why is that our fault, you know? And our channel is not taking the proper precautions to keep them away. You have a responsibility still. This fucking shit would have happened, dude. You have the responsibility. You should be a restricting your content. You should be. You should.

I mean, when I have your way to say, look at our Twitter in the TikTok barrier at the end of all of your videos. You should even need to tell them to look at your Twitter. Definitely. Obviously, if people go to Twitter, there is stuff that they can click on and a sensor or not and they can see it because we are honestly considered that we should post on Twitter what we need to post. And at the end, I don't think you should or just keep the links away.

And you could go out of your channel and do your thing. If your channels are grown, if your channel is full of growing people in the audience, and they really do want to look into you, then a lot of them would actually just take the steps to go to Twitter and look you up. You do realize children wouldn't be looking after you. You also realize that restricting the channel itself at Plus 18 doesn't change the fact that these kids would lie and say that they are 18 anyways.

But you're doing your part. It doesn't matter what the kids do. If you label it 18 plus, it's not even your fault. If you do restrict the channel to 18 plus, at that point, it's not your fault. You've done what you can. Let's move on for a second. Why won't you restrict your channel to 18 plus? Give me a reason why you won't.

Because the problem that we actually put on Instagram, sorry, on YouTube and so on, it's actually not restricted. Why won't you restrict your channel to 18 plus? If 90% of your views are above 18, because you will not be losing anything. We considered that the humor we post, as well as other shows that post.

Did you even consider the fact that you're siphying them towards porn? So like you mean we should take off the links of our arrest? No, I think you should just, dude, this whole conversation would end if you would just age restrict your content and you just said that 90% of your viewers are above the age of 18. So, hey, it wouldn't even do anything. Removing the either, either a, if you wanted to be right in this scenario, either A, remove the links or be age restrict your content. Yeah.

That is that is our two. If for you guys a link that you click on that asks you to be 18, let me one second. My head is that I just give me a quick second. I was saying if you think that a link that you click on and you go to the channel itself, you actually need to accept that you're 18 to see it. And all the content is restricted until you pay and put your payment method and so on. So you need to have a credit card or you need to have a payment method and so on that

must be on your name or on your parents' name if you're not an adult. If you think that that's also our responsibility, if these people go there and click on it and accept that they are, when they are not, we go back to the same point. A lot of people lie about their age, and that's actually fucked up. I do agree with that. Of course, if you could just remove the link and it would solve a lot of issues,

and instead of saying, oh, click the link, which most children would actually just do, you could just say check out our Patreon. And normally, let's be real, children do not have the they don't have the time to go and look up a Patreon, look you up your own specific channel and pay for it. Somebody that is actually actively looking for porn of your characters, because let's be real. If they're going to be that down bad, then they're going to take the steps. They're going to go as like, look for your channel, look for the Patreon and then also like buy the content.

Let's be honest. I mean, it'd be a lot easier to keep children away like that instead of having the link to your channel. First of all, I agree that that actually that probably happens as well as a lot of teenagers actually consume the hub and stuff. Like I said, we have all done that. Like, that's not something new or something horrible. You know, it's there. And it's actually something that exists for a long, long time. And the teenagers, especially teenagers consume pornography. Like, at an adult age and so on, some people still do. Some people enjoy it. Some people develop other kinds of interests on their personal, intimate life. That's for sure, you know, I totally agree with that. But on the other hand, like, we make sure.

that yes there is a link but there is also an age restriction in the link that if you accept by lying about your age you're still not able to see the content i think we have one one photo if you accept that you're 18 that you're 18 that you can see but the rest you need to pay for it and plus you need to agree that you're 18 years old to see it if you still okay but we get the point that yeah kids can do whatever they want if they want to click on an 18 plus link then they're and that's on them right you could you still have the responsibility to either age restrict or shit, keep it 13 plus, remove the links because you shouldn't have 18 plus links in a 13 plus audience. And as you said, they can click on 18 plus links to view the content. So knowing that, you have the responsibility to do

what you can to not make those 13 year old kids, click on 18 plus content. I don't know what is a big fucking problem. You can age restrict or content, shut up, because 90% of your content is 18 plus. As you said, right? It's adults. So you should have absolutely no. issue in age restricting your content so that you're still getting the same amount of Patreon subscribers, you're still getting admittedly the same amount of views as you say. So what's the big issue with age restricting your content? You should be reluctant and happy that you're preventing 13 year old kids to view 18 plus content. What's the big deal? Why can you do 18 plus? We could delay the link if it comes to that and in any ways, even though it's restricted when you

click on it, but whatever. Of course, but even though we could do that, but just just just just the correction. Our social media, I'm not talking about Patreon, which is obviously for adults, like adults, adults, adults. And like our social media, it's not 90% people that are actually 10 years old or 5 years old, like you mentioned in your videos. I mean, that's insane. I mean, maybe there is some that lie about their age. I don't know. I mean, that's, like I said, that's not my problem. There's many. There's a lot of users. Why don't you age restrict your content? Do lie about the age. We will maybe, maybe remove the link from YouTube, but restructure.

restricting the social media content, the jokes for whatever push they are. Like, we don't show any graphic stuff. The videos that actually have core, big stuff are restrict. Let's conclude. Let's make 13 plus content have be where 13 plus content supposed to be. Let's not try to cross shit. If you're going to have a 13 plus YouTube channel, keep it 13 plus. Keep the 18 plus shit out of it.

If you want to have your links inside of your Instagram, that is 18 plus, keep the Patreon links over there. But don't put your 18 plus Twitter account in your 18 plus Patreon in a where it's 13 plus content for 13 year olds to be viewing? Simple? I mean we yeah yeah obviously I mean am I stupid like am I insane here no no I don't I don't think you're insane I think we have different points of views about the restrictions on watching pornographic content and for teenagers to do so I do I do think that it's true that a lot of kids lie about their age so yeah we could definitely delayed maybe the patron video the patron link and so on which by the way we added not so long ago

and according to our demographics and so on. And also we, like I said, you can click on it. You will see it's going to ask you to be 18 and prove that you are 18 and you will take the response. Perfect. Okay, that's perfect. If it's 18 plus and you want to stay 13 plus on your YouTube channel, remove the links. That's good. Do that today.

Do that today. That doesn't make sense on your point of, under your point of view. Even though I think it's quite cynical considering that tons of teams and tons of actually 13 to 18. 18 people actually consume way worse stuff in other pages that don't even ask you to pay or give your data. That's not good. You know, but it's not necessarily good. That's why when you need to subscribe the page and you need to actually, you need to actually subscribe us with your name, with your credit card or your payment method and so on. And you're actually agreeing to be 18.

And it's stuff that stuff like the hub that is free, doesn't have. And like also we go this way and we go with the ID and so on and we go on discord too for example on on this court we do have channels that are uh for for 13 plus and we do have channels that you actually need to prove that you are 18 with your ID like we do that in this court because we have the tools to do so here we don't but we do when you click on the link of patreon and you open it and you can just check it you know you do have the tools you do have the the video you're mic the main point we're getting across is let's keep the child shit where the child shit to go and

And then the 18 shit, where the 18 shit should go. I can, let's make that a very defined, like, separate thing. YouTube. Because anyways, anyways, they don't bring much transit anyways. We put them, like, a few days ago. Okay, but let's make it separate. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I could definitely delete the links, even though I partially disagree.

Do that today. Yeah, honestly, I think you probably should either delete the links or just simply age restrict your content. I mean, you still have not given me a real reason why, you're not going to age restrict your content. At least I haven't heard it. I was gone for a little bit. I think we should just move on.

We've already spent so much time. We've been going on this. Yeah, let's move on to next question. I mean, it did say why we don't age restrict the content on YouTube because we have 13 plus and PG-13. And actually YouTube itself, when they monetized our channel recently,

due to your videos, of course, which I already thanked you for the exact thing. Because it's really an app we were not using. And you can see that on the past. Like we had 4,000 followers. We were posting everywhere, but we were not paying attention to that. As our main focus is other apps, like Instagram. But like we literally went through almost two months of check, like,

well, not two months, by a month and something, to actually check our monetization since all this video criticism started and so on that gave us anyways. I must thank you for that, like 30-something million views and other things. and allowed us to monetize when YouTube checked our content, what we received is actually a response saying, we monetized, I don't know what percentage of videos, but almost all of them entirely.

But there are some videos like this one and this one and this one that the sign comes out yellow that says it's limited because of the language or because of graphic content like Gore stuff, but the rest, even YouTube said, okay, this content is actually pushed, but it's not graphic. Like there is no graphic stuff in the sexual way. Except...

Of course, but innuendos. still a thing. I didn't think we should... Innuendos are things that children should see. That's another thing I wanted to talk about today. We got into the in 2014 and it's the only strike, thanks God, I have, so far in the channel. And the strike was for copyright, which it says so. And that's it. You know, the rest was a video that was age restricted, which I think it was the Gore one,

like the little with the kid that is being bullied and so on. Yeah, what was the warning for? There was a warning in the channel as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were trying to not only make a little. Shappies way but also have other shows like like I said I really love Shappy Shaghy happy three friends and we wanted to make some something like that related with extreme bullying and stuff and how children you know it's not children but like

teenagers and in general kids express this kind of things or think about abuse and so on as like I said. That was a Mary video right with the most we tried to make a video it was extremely complicated to make, it was a mess. Then we posted it and we got a strike because you can see blood and violence in the video. We got the strike removed, but we got the video limited for monetization now. It's not a content anyways that we will continue because we dropped that idea. Of course, we posted it. We took us three days to do the damn videos. Of course, we posted it and as not for kids. And that's it, you know. That's the only strike we got. We didn't get any strike for

for other stuff, like, I don't know where, I mean, you can see my, my, what is it called in English, front page, back page of the YouTube channel. You can see the front page. You will see that's the only strike we got. It was removed, thanks God. And then it was just monetized, limited, which I just know now that this works like that, because like I said, we don't really do much YouTube since, but we started since you, since you made us quite more famous with your videos, actually.

No worries. I'm sure we all love to talk about this, but we do need to follow a schedule. Yes, please remove the links or age-restrict your channel. Decide one of those today, please. They are removed already. Okay, perfect. All right, thank you, but I mean, I slightly disagree with it, but because the links are actually age-restricted when you click on them, but anyways.

Okay. Let's move on to the next point. So one of the other things we had was that we found your like we found your misleading statements to be kind of questionable because we don't actually know what was misleading that we're like yeah what did we say specifically you think was misleading there are several do you remember that we yes there are several things that actually it's not just misleading is that they are not the way that you put them there and that's okay you know i mean i understand you don't know you don't know what's behind the idea neither you know what's behind the show

or what we thought about when we started to do this you know um the specific things you thought that we said though. I think, start with me. Like, what was my, what was misleading about my videos? When you actually mentioned, hey, they're actually five-year-olds watching your videos. Oh, you're trying to push the content to kids. Yeah. And you were talking about the content on social media at first, not about the links

because they were not there until recently. And you were just saying, oh, you're pushing this to kids. So hard to kids. Oh, the, what, I don't even remember the titles, like I said, just got into this recently. looking at your videos and so on, you, a brain rod animator and whatever. And we've never actually had, we've never actually posted stuff for kids, specifically for kids.

Actually, YouTube itself, YouTube itself has two different platforms for that. And as well. The beginning of your channel when everything was just extremely kid-friendly. What was that? Like the Odyssey of the Soul begin. That's still for grown-ups. Yeah, that's not our work. That's actually from the first studio that took the project.

And like I said, those videos were not. what we are doing now and when we took over, those videos were actually related with some business company that subemployed us to actually made some videos for them for their stuff. I'm not going to mention what kind of business and so on because it's confidential stuff and all that. Like that. Okay, so the whole point that I was trying to make here

about the whole five-year-olds are watching your shit is because even though you labeled your YouTube channel as not made for kids, I do as well, right? My channel is labeled as not made for kids. I've been doing that since September. I think when was my first video September 2021? I've been doing that. Ever since the beginning of my channel,

I've been labeling it not made for kids. You've been doing the same thing. That doesn't prevent children from still being able to see your videos. I can sign out on YouTube and in fact, one of my videos, I was logged in on a YouTube account that was five years old and I still was able to view your YouTube shorts perfectly fine. If you want to make this about how my audience was able to view,

if you want to talk about how my audience was able to view this content, I went back through your YouTube shorts before I, even made my first video about you and I found plenty of comments where they were saying, oh, I'm six years old. I'm eight years old. I'm nine years old. You know what I mean? So yes, children do in fact watch your videos. I like six to nine years old. Most many some of those comments where people just commenting I'm six years old. Okay, but how do you know? There's no possible. Yeah. Oh, I know that. Hey, this guy's clearly not six. Bro. Let me let me let me. You are so good at pointing the finger. It's actually so crazy, man.

I'm not pointing to... Keep going. You've pointed the whole fucking call, man. Whole call. I'm not pointing to anyone. I'm just trying to explain. It's his fault. He's lying. He's not six. It's his fault. Come on, dude. So basically, on your videos, there's also comments for people that says, hey, I'm going to be

11. Can you give me a high or whatever like that? Either some of them are kids and they are lying about their age. Otherwise, they also shouldn't be able to see your content. The audience settings us... That's not how it works. That's not how it works. not how it works at all. Just simply letting you know it isn't how it works.

YouTube uses the stack. Can I, can I please? Yeah, go on, go on, go on. YouTube actually uses this tag, not for kids, to comply with the Children Online Privacy Protection Act, which means that if your channel is not for kids, you can include more mature themes like adult humor, violence, suggestive content, et cetera. Now, of course, we go back to the same topic again,

which is so peripad. if yes there are kids that lie about their age yes there are people that are under 13 that lie about their age can still see your age you don't have to lie about your age you don't have to lie about your age when you set your videos is not made you say your videos that's probably like the lowest standard you can do well again made an account that is five years old and can still see your content he didn't lie about it he actually put his age five years old I still have the Google account is not made for kids cause just get it off YouTube kids that's literally it

doesn't get it off actual YouTube and plenty of kids use actual YouTube. If you actually, if you actually, and we know because YouTube actually when we started to make the channel and so on now that we are monetizing, et cetera, does communicate to you these kind of things. If you actually go to see that, there is something called also supervised experience on YouTube. And that's why there are two platforms. There is YouTube. And then there is YouTube kids.

They are totally different things. Separated. If your YouTube is made for kids, then it will send your videos to YouTube kids and the YouTube platform itself. And YouTube itself. For kids, so it won't show up on YouTube kids. Exactly. But it still shows up on YouTube itself. Yeah, YouTube itself is an app that requires you to be 14, at least

to have an account or your own. And if you are less than 14, like 13, for example, plus in some countries, in some countries, I don't know now exactly the countries, but I was also reading on it these days. In some countries, you need to be 15 or 16 to have your own account without your parents' permission. That's actually how it

should be, of course. I mean, there was a channel recently. One of the recent videos that came out about you by a channel named Galistic. He made a video, in his video, he actually shows him making another YouTube account, an alternate account that is 10 years old with maximum parental controls, like everything set so that it can't possibly see anything bad. That's absolutely not possible except if you give the channel. Well, it is.

It's in the video. Go watch it. It is in fact possible. And it is done. Why if it's not for kids, actually you can say it as a kid. because we are eventually tagged not for kids. Would you like to see the video? Yeah, we could technically powered up.

Yeah, we could put this on the big screen for you. But there must be something there must be something there, you know, because it shouldn't be. Actually, if you have a person that makes an account that is under 14, and I did it myself because I was curious to see if maybe this doesn't work properly or what the fuck, you know? So I did made an account by myself also, and it asks another email and another permission for an adult person to make that account. If you want to have an account that is under 14,

in my country, at least in the country where I am now, in other countries I know the age is 15 or 16, and they will ask you an email from a person that is adult or an adult allowing you to access YouTube because you shouldn't be otherwise having your own personal account if you are not at least 14. Plus, there is the supervised experience that YouTube provides, which parents can control the content that their younger kids access

if they are not using YouTube for kids, but they are using YouTube. You can tag the content as 9 plus for videos including vlogs and tutorials. You can tag it plus 13. You can tag it most of YouTube. I mean, you can check that. I'm not making that up. You are pointing the fingers so hard. I feel like you're about to poke my fucking eye out, dude.

You have not taken a single move to restrict your videos. You haven't done that. No, it's, don't pull it. It's completely irrelevant. Yeah, don't worry about the video. Because he says it's not. Yeah, it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant.

I mean, YouTube, you mean YouTube rules and actually the not-for-kids policies don't work. They're worth nothing. They're just there for the sake of it. I love how you're just dancing around this. Bro, you are sending kids towards porn sites.

Restrict your channel. Age-restrict your channel. I'm not interested in because YouTube doesn't require that because we are PG-13. We can just move on because you already took the links down. So you know what? At least you're doing something. We're ready. We can just move on.

All right. Obviously. What was misleading about Bito's videos? About what was so misleading about my video? It's not misleading. It's, I mean, I texted you this morning, didn't I? You sure. Actually, the first two-

We'll get into that. We'll get into that after our other point because that's a whole different point we wanted to bring up. But what did you find misleading about Glyde guys video? Like, like I said, we have a social media team that I don't think they approached the topic the proper way. I think they should have just ignored it, just let it be, or just answer, correct. Who was sending all those comments?

Was that you? No, we have a person that actually does take care of social media like a human being cannot do everything and we are more So that wasn't you? Personally me, no. It was actually, we have people.

You sent zero, zero comments. It was? What? So you sent zero comments. All those were not you. The messages they sent to you on Discord, it's me. No, all the YouTube comments. Like every like like you

hundreds of comments The hundreds of comments We have a person of social media I already explain you this in the group chat Because we cannot handle everything ourselves So we need somebody to do that And we're already talk to them We're already talk to them

What about the community type posts What about the community type posts? We are not none of us is American or English speaker And we're actually from Europe So yeah there are typos That's actually normal And people type fast and they were enraged and angry and it's not okay.

I think that part actually was definitely our fault to admit. Like people shouldn't answer like that, like crazy like that and then sending copyright claims and so on without consulting me and the other person that is in charge. But we trusted them and for the past two years they did a great job. And of case, yeah, they made a mistake and that shouldn't happen. I think it will not happen again. We actually talked about this because it was not nice to see the answers they put on social

media without thinking, without preparing, without knowing what, knowing exactly what they were answering 100% and just out of spite. And I do get it. I mean, they love the series. We started this, like I said, with really limited budget. And now that it's going better, it's actually something that they care about. But I think, I think it's something we will not see again. I personally deleted all the posts, also they made on YouTube because they were not. They weren't you either. Those community tab posts weren't you. No. Like I said, we are CEO animator, then we have a social media person,

and then we also got other people for other things. You know, you cannot just do everything yourself in an organization where you're actually in a social media post guy. I got a guy. Did you have any idea who was posting those people? Dude is not very good. Wild. Because they posted three community posts in an hour and a hour of all targeting him. I mean, I did delete them because I also find them not correct.

I don't think those were neither those, neither the fact of the copyright without asking just because they have the permission to actually use my signature or whatever because we don't have time to do other things. I think they should have consulted before because. Yeah, that was our next point that we wanted to bring up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all related. Like I said, I'm not a person that has tons of time to be behind all the social media and what's going on, the videos and so on. Because, you know, making the videos we make, rather you like them or not, it takes a few. days to do just one of those 10-second shorts. I mean, it's crazy and you can't, maybe you can't

imagine. I don't know if you animate, but still, it's really hard to do it. That's great. So, and then you will know that to make a certain quality of animation takes a while. Plus, like I said, it's not like we have Chapy's way only. We also have other things to do and other animations to deliver to other people. So, like, of course, at some point, I decided to have someone that I trust to run the social media. maybe my mistake was trusting him too much because he took some actions that he shouldn't have without consulting us. Like there is no discussion about that.

I mean, on my behalf, I'm sorry about it because that shouldn't have gone that way for many reasons. Like the first one, because it's not correct. Some of the information was wrong. Some of the messages were actually not accurate at all with what they said. And also the copyright claim was absolutely unnecessary because despite we like or not...

Yeah, despite or not, we like the criticism to your channel. I must say that if we are using YouTube now, it's because of the engagement that you guys provided with your videos and your content. So I think they should have calm to talk first and then not do it directly because they have the power to do so. So we'll learn from it because it never happened before.

So I think they know what to do now next time that we go through something like if there is a next time. Yeah, what a hiccup. I mean, just filing like law, like actual league. Google documents, man, oh, what a fuck up. That really sucks. Oops. Seriously, I don't have anything to say about that.

Definitely, you're right. I mean, that shouldn't have been gone. That shouldn't have gone that way. Quite the fuck up. Very huge because I, like we were talking, it's not fair to just directly go like that. And we are all content creators one way or another. And at the end, it's our mainly, how do you say income, living income? and exactly

so like before a person does that they should definitely need to be something super super super serious something for sure are you saying that your social media guy is the one who filed the lawsuit or the copyrights social media

the social media person is actually the one that takes care of all the social media actions and so on and why do you think he did that did he offer a reason as to why he actually sent those strikes or what? That's a good question. So when we were talking and we actually finally got to see me and my partner, which is the animator and the guy that helps me with the style and so on, when we talked to him, he said that he thought it was the right thing to do because he had read the

policies of YouTube and you were using more than one minute of content and that's not okay. And you were actually stealing the content to make your own videos. But like the guy probably didn't read the whole thing or I don't know where he actually got this info but definitely when I checked it myself and then when Ruth explained it on the Discord chat like there are certain exceptions and this is criticism videos or whatever this video or stuff like that plus it's short so you use several shorts so like I don't think he I think in my opinion now according to what I actually perceived is that this person just did it because he was pissed and he really likes the show and he felt it was unfair and he just went for it and he thought he was

do you still have this guy like tired and you're not gonna you're not gonna fire a person for for one mistake i mean i don't know i think i would fire a person yeah i do for someone putting your first and last name your home address and phone number on a on a copyright strike like this uh i would be firing him immediately having my own personal info on the front page or something like that it's a little bit keep in mind what he agreed to in this copyright strike you do know, like, did you see all the things that he had to agree to? The bottom one being, like, my channel will be terminated if this is a false strike, which it obviously was a false strike. Very much was. The channel should be done by now.

No, because YouTube does its thing. We did receive that being the lead was very high. Yeah, I mean, we did, we did receive the reply from YouTube, which I read. And YouTube says that, like, they understand that why, why we sent this copyright strike, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it actually doesn't comply because it's an exception, it's criticism videos, plus it's not one straight minute of content or an audio that is copyrighted and stuff like that. So they just said

basically, next time you, or your team or whatever, next time your channel makes a copyright claim, you need to actually make sure you know the rules properly, which, and I... You got a lucky slap on that. You understand how much you're saying, right?

I would pray to YouTube. I mean, if the channel was banned because of that, of that if the channel was banned because of that definitely we will change the person in charge of running the social media and using my signature legally to to do things at the moment he doesn't at the moment he doesn't have the signature anymore so yeah i would take him off of okay exactly well i'm willing to bet that he didn't even read anything at all because if whenever this person this this this quote-to-quote attorney was filing the claim or the copyright strike against my channel he had to read this specific part it says does

Does this significantly transformed the original work? Does it fall under fair use as an exception to copyright? Which, if you read a little bit more, it talks about commentary and criticism and stuff like that. So did he read anything? No, I think he probably did it out of spite, probably read the beginning. So this guy got mad, made like six community posts talking directly about Rith. And since a false copyright strike, which is very illegal and you still have him on pay? Kind of interesting, I guess.

We took away the fact that he can actually use his signature at the moment, and he will be. So now he can't do a legal crash out, but he's still, I mean. Yeah, let's just hire an attorney that acts on emotions. Let's hope he doesn't crash out on comments, too. Otherwise, of course, we'll find somebody else. Let's not get personal. Let's say business-related. I'd probably give it.

And also, I mean, it's not bad. It's fair questions. I mean, these questions are fair. I think it was a huge fuck-up. But still, I think it's the first time he makes a mistake. We took away now. he cannot fill anything like now if i need to send a copyright thing i will do it myself i don't think legal documents is a mistake i'm just i just don't think that that's even possible

to be a mistake that's like kind of the whole point of them what do you mean i mean i think you just have like i think you just have a guy who's like working entirely off of emotion running your channel right yeah don't think it's a bright idea i hope that now after this this intervention we had in this meeting after all this mess uh he will just stick to just answering comments and being actually professional on the channel if we see not yeah i don't think you're very safe legally with him in charge because he also tried to involve me in the copyright strike you sent to riff i don't know and also the guy that's not a thing you can do that's just not even a thing you can do that's not a he traded this copyright strike more as like a bag to youtube as opposed to a legal

document i mean have you read this strike look at look at the response that this guy put and escalating unnecessarily we need the harassment to stop we follow rules and to video is not made for kids bro he wrote plus like three times PLS and also for an attorney he doesn't know very much about the law if he's saying this should be illegal like an attorney doesn't say that if you're an attorney you you should already know the law I went through the I went through what he he did definitely it's just I don't know I do believe in second saying please take the straight like please take the video down in response to a question that was who

were the owners of this like of this content like like I after after I get involved with this recently. I did see all what he's done and it's not okay. Like in general, it's not okay. I mean, seriously. I mean, we can agree on that. That's good. No, no, 100%. Like, there is no discussion that it was a huge fuck up because I don't know. He has no experience. I mean, myself, I don't have any experience on YouTube. That's why I don't manage. I thought he maybe would do things a little bit more, more professionally. I think he just got pissed or something and just, he put your phone name. Yeah. He definitely did. Yeah. Oopsie. I got a little mad. I saw that. I sent a legal document that could have ruined this guy's source of income.

Oops. Oh, man. Could have actually got our channel ban. Fortunately, it didn't happen. I do believe in second choices, in second chances, but in this case, he will not be. In this case, you are lucky. In this case, I'm lucky. And also, he will not be handling any copyright stuff anymore because that's not going to happen again.

Let's see. I just handle anything if I'm being honest. Well, that's all good. We can move on now from this point. We can have to be on this. But we will agree on this We got to revisit Beto. Yes, Bito

and Bito's DMs with you. Yeah, I guess we're going to open up the can of worms. So Okay, yeah, so about the whole DMs thing, I mean, first of all, you said it's not a threat, it was a threat. I mean, you did threaten, I mean, you did just say that it

was, you know, definition, which that's kind of a threat. Even just to bring up that word is a threat. I just told you that I recently saw your video today because I didn't have the chance. I mean, I saw all risk videos. I saw a glider guy videos. I saw MK one of the two videos. I don't know if you posted more of the two, but anyways, I've saw some of them, but I didn't see any of your videos until today or I don't know what time it was, but anyways, today or yesterday night, I forgot. And I went through

the first two sentences you say in the video and it's really serious accusations. And it's not a threat. It's just like... Right. I'll repeat that sentence. I said that you make child porn. Is that the one year? Yes. And also, also the...

It's like accusing someone of that is really not okay. And publicly, especially if it's not true, because we don't make child porn. We don't make porn with children. That's debatable. So... That's not debatable. I mean, we can just agree to disagree here. It is debatable because your characters are very much children in multiple of the videos,

except you just kind of rope them into this whole 29-year-old trope. just like the video I sent you I mean again you you sat and you did the immediate cope that I thought you would have oh he's canonical 29 but at the end of the day I mean it's a video about this guy walking up to his stepdad talking very childish acting as if he doesn't know what masturbation is it's it's very

very much yeah I didn't understand shows the mental capacity of somebody who is not a grown adult yeah but that's not that's not how it works or how how it works or how we picture that neither how we created that but uh you do you do see how that shows i mean you can misinterpret you can misinterpret that because of the dialogue and so on okay but there is there is actually a whole thing it's not misinterpreted i think i brought in the interpretation

you wanted you can have the interpretation you want and one thing is your interpretation you want to think another no i like that's the point this is the message you pushed you made that kid like a child and act like a child you say like actually actually it's just like factual information Can I answer, please? No. I mean, this is dumb cope. I'm not going to let you see. No, there's not.

If you say something about the show of another person that you haven't created and either thought about it or anything, at least you should hear the other side, which is that if you go for 2023, for example, down to the Instagram channel, I don't know if it's on YouTube, but on Instagram, definitely you will find it. You actually see the whole progression of these characters. It's not just we only mention the age, but they have works. They live with their girlfriends. they actually do the normal things that adult people do,

and they actually mention their age constantly in several videos. Plus, we also have a few episodes where we show them in the late 90s and so on when they were kids, you know, and it's other type of humor related to that. Then we show them grown up and so on. I mean, there was a whole procedure on that. Plus, another thing more, like we're using pluses today, so plus, plus, plus. One additional thing to that is also that, yeah, I mean, that video is kind of very, very pushed and that we do this kind of stuff also for the same reason as before, which I explained to you.

We are not very, very happy and into the hub industry. And most of the videos that people see there are stepmom, stepdad, stepbrothers, stepbrose. A very clearly adults. Yes. Why did you make him childish? We didn't. Why did you make him accurate? The dialogue is childish because crappy is a character that is sometimes innocent or pretends to be innocent.

Oh, he's sometimes innocent. Okay. Like a child. He walked up. You can see how that can be interpreted terribly. He acts exactly like that. It can be interpreted, but it's nothing else that an interpretation from you. Okay, so I would just like to back it up for a second.

I said that it's not how that works. You said that that's not how it works. So are you saying that how it works is, oh, I made it so I can pick the age. And if I pick an age above 18, I can sexualize this character. Of course I can. Okay, so, okay, cool, cool. So you think that it's okay to sexualize characters that look like kids? They don't look like.

Just because just they do. They do. Okay, let's not say look. Let's not say look, let's just say act then. Act like kids. I mean, they do act like kids. They do look like kids. There's multiple, multiple occasions where videos look.

At least behavior, like a child. Like a childish behavior. Like a child. You think if I drew a kid that, I mean, if I drew a character that looks exactly like a kid and I was like, okay, this is a 40-year-old person. That's not. You didn't say that I can just draw a point of that? I mean, what the fuck are you talking about? Our characters are dogs, first of all.

And they are actually since 2003, we made a lot of careful. We were very careful to actually specify who they were, what they were doing, what was their age, their girlfriends, their lifestyles. Because also it's characters based on people we know or on facts of different people we know, plus ourselves and so on, and that we wanted to actually depict all that together in Crappy. If you go deeper in the characters, you will see that also we did this dualism of one character being more mature, more irresponsible, actually adult in the situation. And the other one being the same age, an adult too, but being sometimes childish,

sometimes inappropriate, sometimes he is violent, sometimes, I mean, like a totally messed up character, you know, and in some other occasions, Shappi also gets out of the character, but not as much. Well, we have many other characters that recently we are not using much, but behind the whole thing, I mean, you can start with the historical of the channel and how we started. Like, of course, I do understand that somebody can misinterpret that or interpret that the way they want. I mean, that's not how it is, though. That's not what we wrote.

That's not what we created at first. Neither what we made our characters be like. Like, they have very, very specific traits. It doesn't change the fact that they are adults. They are based on friends of ours, of our personality, too, all mixed up together, and they have different moments, you know? You have to see this on a per video basis. So for that specific video, Yeah, there's going to be onlookers that never seen your content before.

They don't know any backstory, but they honestly don't even have to. When people scroll through their shorts feed, a brand new viewer who's never seen your channel before has no idea who you are. They're going to see that, you know, they could be extremely young. And I already said this. I mean, we've already talked about this. You did give the, you did give the whole, like, there's lord to them and that they're, whatever. Again, dude, if you are able to look at a character and immediately,

not think it's a kid you are very clearly not portraying the matured the age well enough that's that's i've got a question for you i've got a question for you if you look at the chat real quick you see this old character right here you know who that is you got any idea that is no so that is that is a character called monster girl from invincible she is canonically 24 you think we can make porn of that you think we can have her fucking her stepdad is that something i don't think i don't think i don't think you need to do one thing or another thing I mean, you need to do what you think is correct for your... Do you think it'll be correct?

Do you think it would be okay? We want to know... Because she is canonically 24. I think it depends on what's the background on it. If you're actually trying to depict something that is in the hub or in other places that you find absolutely not okay or absolutely hilarious or absolutely not arousing, and you depict it in another scenario.

We just want to know your opinion. Just your opinion. Yeah. What's her thoughts? Again, this is just like... I'm explaining my opinion. My opinion is, I think it's totally fine depending on... I don't think there's any new...

I don't think there's a single ounce of nuance to this. It's a yes or no. Do you think we could sexualize this character? Yes or no? I don't know what this who is this character. I mean, it's not my character. Look at her. Just look at her.

Here's all you need to know. No, don't even know. She has an order for the Lord. Just look at it. If the author thinks that actually making her having this kind of sexual humor part and so on and say that or do that, I will be fine with it. I'm not going to judge this person because it's his adult characters.

He probably has a reason. He's in a picture of her full, her full, like, body, just not just a face. You know, so we can get like a real image of this. Who cares about the body or the face? The character is 24, you said? It's not. Yeah, canonically, right. It's not a character.

It's not anyone's character. I don't even know who's the author, but it's this person's character. They can do with the character, what they consider it is. And then they probably have reasons. Would you find it to be okay if they did that then? Would you find it to be okay? I will not. Yeah.

Now you can see the full, the full picture of her. So are we making porn of that, Shabby? What do you think? I don't know. If they do porn of their own characters that are adults, it's not on my answer. Okay. There's no nuance. Let's do another character.

Let's do another character. What about that one? What about that character? She's 400 years old. Is it okay to sexualize her? I mean, this is a very, very, very serious topic about Japanese animation that actually they depict actual kids. Like, kids, we don't depict fucking kids, dudes.

Like, they depict kids, and they say they are wrong. I mean. say a picture of the girl under the table. Yeah. So this is a grown adult? This is the sister of Shabby. So yeah, it's an adult. Definitely.

I actually say that she's 32. So yes, she's an adult. Well, interestingly enough, I don't really care how old you think this character is. If you look at all the top comments of this YouTube short, you could see the top comment right above your name. It says, isn't that a child? Absolutely, everybody is not being fooled. They think that that is a child. Exactly.

If you scroll onto a character and your first thought is, oh my God, that's a child, and then it's immediately getting sexualized, then clearly you are doing something wrong to push the age of this character. You know how to make characters look like adults. You saw the stepdad video. You know that that looks like an adult. And in everybody's eyes, that looks like an adult. So why the fuck are you not doing it for the other characters that you have actively sucking cock on your shorts? You disgust me, Shappie.

You fucking disgust me. You discussed me. I got that from your videos. but it's okay. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. Yeah, yeah. And then you got that point and then you immediately DM me,

hey, this is death. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. If you want to take me to court, shab, you should totally can. On the first hand, we don't use human characters. We use dog form characters purposefully. That are kids. If you showed that character to 10 people on the street. They are not kids and we cannot decide if they are kids or not.

We came with. I can look at them and be like, that's a kid. You're a person that actually looks like a kid. Everybody thinks that it looks like a kid so it's a kid. Whether you like to or not. Scroll twice. Scroll twice. Do you think this character should be made porn on?

Yes or no? You still have not answered that a single time. Can he sexually sexualize his character? She's 24. If the author did it, it would be fine with him. He wouldn't care. Which I think is fucking disgusting. I already, I already answered to that questions.

We don't use to answer it. I haven't heard a yes or no. Do you think this character can be, can be sexualized? Do you think this character should be sexualized, chappie? Yes or no? I think that if the author considers so... No, I know I think. Yes or no.

That's the only fucking answer. Yeah, let's put it in the finger. Okay, let's internalize it. You say yes? I think that this character should be sexualized. Yes or no, Shappi? We're here to pick your agree. Not the author of Invincible.

I don't give a fuck about the author of Invincible. What do you think? I have no right to say anything. We don't use human characters because we think it's inappropriate. Oh my God. Do you think this character could be sexualized or not? And would you be okay with if they were, and they're canonically 24?

Every adult character is actually totally allowed to be sexualized because it's an adult and can actually get into sexual behavior. You discuss me. It is so shocking that you cannot answer this question. I just said if a character is an adult and they want to actually sexualize them because they are adults and make sexual things out of them. I don't see the problem. Like on the other hand, on the other hand, it's fine with the 400-year-old Lolly right here, perfectly fine if there's porn. No, no, no, no, don't do that.

We're talking about the invincible character. On the anime side, they're both kids. No, on the, no, one is 24 and the other one says it's for 100 years old, but it's definitely a kid. Our characters are dogs and are not kids because you are not nobody to decide how old are characters that we created years ago. I mean, what the fuck is off? Do you think if we showed this to a relative or a family member and you said, you ask

them, oh, do you think this is an adult or a grown, like an adult grown dog or a child? You think you mean my characters? Yeah, this dog. Yeah, if I were to show that girl, that girl, dog was to ask, yeah. If you were to show this character to most people, most of your audience and ask how old is this character? What do you do you think they'd say that's a grown adult? That's all, that's what our questionnaire is. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

It's not what they say. Yeah, we know you, yeah, we know you're the one that says, yes, this is a grown. Yes, we understand that. They get what you're saying. It's my character. I can say whatever I want. What is the audience perception. Yeah.

The audience perception is very important when you make. content like if a person is watching your things and thinks they're not going to go and look for the law and say oh let me see how old this character that's not our problem this is our animation of course it's not your problem it's not your animation of course you can do what you want at the end of the day we've been doing this but the problem here is the fact that that looks like a child does that not make you feel like so no because if you watch if you watch these videos and you think these characters are children makes to me no sense they have they have actually they don't have children voices. They don't, they

occasionally... Well, technically she doesn't have a voice. She doesn't have a voice in this short. Can I finish to answer? For fuck's sake, dude? Of course, you can finish an answer. Okay. So, I just wanted to say that she doesn't have a voice. For me, if I go... She doesn't know.

If I come across to my content, I already know what's the lower, so it's easy. If another person comes to the content and thinks that, I mean, either, either they are not understanding what we are doing, either they don't understand anything related to us because they don't have children voices, they don't behave like children, and our audience... They do behave like children. Big pause there, bud.

We've already pointed this out. They do behave like children. They do behave like you said was, oh, oh, he's childish. Our audience is perfectly aware of their adults. Horrible cope. Can I, can I fit?

This is not an interview. This is just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Makes no sense. Yeah, I mean, at this point, right, because you've just been sitting here spewing bullshit this whole fucking time. Because we already have,

we have two more questions and we need to get through. Yeah, I'll stop. Yes, thank you. Yes, thank you. Stop. And also, our audiences and fans are perfectly aware that they are adults, and that is the end, and that is the end of this. They're not.

So what if somebody was for the first time? Top comment, man. Somebody behind your character, just talking about some other people's shows that are being going for years. You cannot just decide on that. I mean, what the fuck, dude? We don't necessarily decide. General perception. General perception matters more.

No, no, no. General perception matters a lot more than your idea of the kids. Sorry, sorry, there is another big difference to make. I don't care about what your fans come on our videos to comment of hate and of, oh, it looks like a child. No, no, Shappi, one of the things we don't want you to, oh goodness. Dude, like, what you're public saying, I don't care what your people think. Dude, you guys make videos about this all the time. Of course.

It's what everyone thinks. I don't care what your people think. My people think that child's an adult and we're going to jerk to it. Yeah, okay. You're fucking, you're fucking disgusting. Yeah, you're a fucking, freaky-ass, motherfucker, bro. Let's just move on to the next point. It's fine.

We obviously on agreeing here. Nah, just move on, because we're not going to just, we're not going to ever agree here. We will never agree here, Shappi. Just move on. Let's put a ball. No, shut the fuck. You're really rude. Okay, so Shappy, okay.

I am. I seem to get a little mad when I'm talking to nunces. The idea, actually, the idea that our content is about children or directed at children originated with you, not with us and it was never an issue before and plus most of your followers of course they're going to say yeah yeah go on keep bullying this guy because of course you know they are your I never I never once

Shappi I never once made a video until I got listen man I was the first person to make a video about you I don't do I did not make that video until I got 20 plus people sending me this and their fucking actual perception was hey this guy draws clear kids in sexual ways it doesn't matter that they're my fans. I had people joining my server just to tell me you were making child porn.

I mean, dude, you are dead to rights. Everybody fucking looks at your channel and sees these as kids. I don't know why you could possibly think really different. No, the Lord doesn't care like you or the fans that you have to send you the content from us like, hey, roast this guy because we think this way. This is actually your thing.

It's not just our fans. It's yours as well. Shappi, have you taken a minute to just step back and understand. If a lot of people are saying this, then maybe it is the majority. maybe you are the issue here maybe maybe so 2,000 comments from your channel

it's majority of people are thinking this if the majority of the people will watch your content think oh that does look like a child even if they're not even if they're not I'm gonna completely agree with you because it's your character I can't say that that's a child obviously definitely damn sure does look like a child man

I'm not gonna lie to you a bunch audience saying that right there 88% that's what I'm saying there your audience is worth one thing On the other hand, we never had comments like this before. You did, though. In quantity, it's actually your fun base

that is purposefully misunderstanding the content. This is such a horrible cope. Whenever, like, literally so many people see this kid, like, guys, I swear. Before you made the videos. But the votes are from your followers, guys. And if there are... These votes are from real people,

and real people are voting that this is a child. Guys, it doesn't lie. Exactly. Let's speak one at the time. so I can answer to what you're saying and it's better because otherwise I can't even hear what you say. Before we put you on the fucking map, we looked at your comments and you were still

getting comments about kids. Some people that disagree with the content or they don't understand it or they don't need to the law, but they were majority. Majority. No. No. How can you say it's a majority on channels that have hundreds of thousands of views and thousands and thousands of like and positive comments

and you find a few of them in between? This started with your fandoms. You never said a few. Coming to bully us because what you sell the videos which is not accurate which is fine because what's the content you make you know i feel like i want to clear up this point we don't plan we don't wish to bully you at all we we discussed this in discord before this conversation on the chat this is what you do that people want to see a show all that kind of stuff you said they sure do but it doesn't mean

you're like pushing into your channel and like we pass for maybe a one percent of comments of people that don't understand what we do because they don't look into it or because they misinterpreted our first class. I've already said this. If I have to do genuine research and do a deep diet to even know your character's a fucking adult, then clearly you are not doing enough to show the maturity of your character.

You have still not made a single comment on this. If I have to do research to even think your character is an adult, you are not doing your part. Guys, it's not about you making research or not about my characters. Is that if you're a fan before you existed, because I didn't know about your existence before, neither actually we had tons of,

This is a whole inside joke, basically. You have to be a... So a whole inside joke that, oh, yeah, in reality, this is an adult. So that this doesn't look like childborn. Like, in everything, if you keep saying that, dude, I already told you that's not okay because we don't do that. Like, if you also change... What are you going to do?

What are you going to do if he keeps saying it's child porn? Because it is. What are you going to do? Like I said, I will take this interview of something peaceful, so I'm not going to do anything about that. We didn't know what we're going to do. I want to explain. Because we still have two more questions.

The fact is you don't have actually to do research. You just have to watch the content. I mean, if you consider that these characters are the age you consider, I mean, that's on you because they actually have life and behaviors and voices and

acts and they fucking say the age since 2023 because we are aware of this kind of. This is shorts, bro. People watching your shorts don't know all this. This is the problem. They'll be They'll just scroll into your videos and then no be here. The thing is we never had to have. First glance, they see what looks like a genuine child.

Yeah. To them. Okay. Listen. Listen, hundreds of thousands of people before that, never. Never. I'll calm down on this.

Let me just get this point. A few comments in between thousands and thousands that were just understanding that this is adult humor, that is actually sexual adult humor to be more specific. And that's it, you know, because that's what we created for the past two years. Now, you appear, your fans can say what they want. your fans can commend one put the same picture put the same picture on your community type see what they say let's see what your followers think

let's put on your community tab right now put the same picture and say is this a child is it a child? Instagram comments yourself dude they know it's not a child because they are fans you know and they actually are good all right well let's see if your fans back you up let's see if your fans back you up you know he's not going to do hundreds of thousands

of temporary you know he would never yeah he would never fucking do it because he knows it's child porn I mean, yeah, you keep saying that. Listen, man. Shappy, listen, I'm going to calm down. I'm going to stop the allegations, whatever. You're saying that the quote unquote research that has to be done is to watch your content, right?

That's what you're saying. You just have to watch the content. What I'm saying is that the characters do not look like children. Let's not make this some yapcash, man. Do you have to watch, you have to watch the content to find out the age, right? So the content that I have watched the content. And the most for us, let me finish. You want to go ahead.

Yes, I want to go ahead. And I want to just say that the characters Please do Let's just keep the answer short though I don't want to Yes They are sure If this asshole

Doesn't stop to interrupt me For fuck sure Seriously The characters do not look like children Bro fucking hell Speak And you know that You're just pretending

Not to understand that To make money What? We are not pretending shit They do look like children Wait Wait Wait

And this has actually You watch content To have a valid opinion on it Like of course If you don't research On it You can have whatever superficial shit.

I have to do the deep dive on the pon. So the most you can learn off of your content is a very flimsy idea of this character being 29. That is it. Almost every other video he's acting either very childish or just very immature, which seems childish. That is it. So there's one or two that I've seen personally where the character's like, I'm 29.

And it's, dude, that is such a flimsy shield. Again, bro, do you think this 400 year old girl should be sexualized? So canonical age is a fucking terrible. argument and you know this. The drawing of that character is a kid. That's why we used two years. You know, we use dogs. We actually establish a lore before we start.

Believe it or not, bro, a dog can still look like a child. Okay, but this is, and you're making a humanoid. So you're saying that dogs looks like children? No, no, wait, wait, wait, let me get. That's such a terror. Dude, come on, that's such a terrible point. You're saying that dogs look like children. Come on, bro.

You can make a dog look like a child, and you are very much doing that. It's an anthropomorphic dog. You really thought you had me with that one. Wait, wait, you think that. No, come on. There's nothing to humanized. The dog. Like, what?

Of course, you're making that humanized dog look like a child. And welcome to legs. A humanized dog, you can be a child, yes. So, wait, wait, let me get this straight. You're saying that our characters that are actually at adults for hundreds of thousands of people until you appeared, they are not adults because you say so, your fans say so. That of course, some of the videos. General perception, bro.

As people-in-some of the videos, they are childish. Of course, we have a childish character, and we have a more-me- Your character that behaves with it. It's your fans' general perception. General perception. You said you have hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah, I'm not going to point at my fans. Oh, dear it's my fans.

General- If you think it's because of us that we've ruined your perception of your channel, I mean, on you, it'll be more people that believe this if it's more, like, I'm not saying, not being. Alone have over, easily over a million son of subscribers. Griffiths himself, 4 million subscribers.

Gladda Guy, 400,000. Those two alone have way bigger audience than you. And they all believe and agree. Like, if they didn't agree, all you'd see in these comments is that, yo, okay. So believe it or not, Shabby, it's an audience, not a cult. Okay, so you can, you can, you can still disagree with somebody that you're subscribed to. Yes, they are more likely to agree with me, but they're still going to disagree if I'm wrong. But if the general perception of your character is that it's a kid, then they'll,

going to take that general perception because it's the general fucking perception. It's fine. We can just move on this point because we will never agree on this. So I don't see a reason to keep arguing it. I say we just agree to disagree. I say we should actually understand the things properly and that you have a There's going to be, dude, there's going to be nothing being tied between us like agreeing with you.

Like you know how to draw kids and adults. Like if you look at my character, this is a kid version of me and that's an adult version. It's very obvious. You know how to draw an adult. you know how to draw a kid. We draw adults and then we draw their part. Okay, so you draw adults and then you just draw adults that look exactly like children? No, we don't drew.

And then you draw babies that look exactly like what? No, if you look at the channel, there is one kid character, which has his own sketches, which is the son of another character. An adult. Okay, even if, even if that, are you, all right, which character is the actual kid? Which one are you referring to? So we don't we don't picture a little baby bunny The little baby bunny

So the little baby bunny that was featured in the video where crappy had sperm in his mouth You think that's an appropriate video to feature a child like an actual child according to your lore? Yeah You think that's appropriate kids So that's how Shappy was the washes the child and then the joke is that crappy is washing his mouth Because I don't give a fuck about the joke Do you think it's appropriate to feature a this is a child according to his lore But it's not a child in that video

Of course not But do you think it's okay for a child To be in the same video It's the whole joke Actually it's not even our joke that one We actually made it out of another video Because we thought it was funny And I don't know point point point

I mean your finger is sharp as fuck my boy Holy shit You've done nothing point point point It's okay bro just move on Just move on just bring up the next question bro We're going in circles all right It's actually it's actually okay One of the things we wanted to bring to your...

We're bringing up the next shit. Yeah, there was some leaks in your server. Some people are leaking information in there, and we found out that you're spending some time talking to Rocky Raccoon. Of course. Why wouldn't I? So you guys do make the same type of content. Do you think he would agree with these points as well? All these points you're making.

I guarantee he fucking would. Oh, yeah. You see making assumption and pointing fingers yourself, so I don't know why the fuck are you saying I'm pointing fingers. Can you not do that? Oh. No, seriously, are you able to actually talk instead of just saying stuff that you make up or that you modify? Yeah.

No, I'm actually pretty good at this, bro. It's kind of my whole. You already talk about that on Discord. Kind of my job, bro. I got that. That is your job and that's what you do. And it's totally fine. I find it funny sometimes.

Sometimes I don't because it's actually. Well, I would imagine you wouldn't find it funny because I'm calling it. That's why I texted you because I think telling someone, telling someone stuff. like that without even knowing anything about it or like you said to me you haven't even research because you don't need to that's actually no so the thing is I actually did do the research

and I knew that you claimed your characters were 21 and I knew that but still is unimportant of course it's not how is the background of two years of work of a studio of animation of a show that we want to make for characters that are adults and we have specified from day one that they were

when we took over how is that unimportant on a comment on a you gotta look at at this shit from the eyelids of a kid that just watched your video, bro. Like,

what I was thinking of comment of hate on our videos happened to many other people through the years. You've been doing this for years and you can go through the comment.

Yeah, we've weeded out some pretty bad people. We've always agreed with you. There is some external people that don't. And that's it. But when it comes to your people

that go to other channels to bully people or hate on people, of course they agree with you. Why would they agree with us? Where is the fun? Right. They agree with those because we make valid points.

Sometimes we've been disagreed with. I know I've been disagreed with in my videos. There's some videos out there where I have... We've all had some other things. Like, yeah. Also, there's another important thing of it that is to make actually videos about hate and misinformation or criticism. The most important thing to do before is to research. Not just based on what your founder says.

Yeah, we do research. Here, Beto said that, no, of course I didn't look into it because it's not necessarily because the people that comment on my video. Right. And I probably shouldn't have worded it like that, but honestly, I just kind of wanted you to just understand the point immediately. I did do the research. I did know that criticism about a channel. Could you please let me talk? Seriously, if you miscreasism about a channel, if you put comments outside of a person and especially accusations like the ones you do, because honestly, MK video, Ritz Video and Glider Guy video are actually, in a way, humor is funny and the entertaining to watch, even though the information is not exactly perfectly accurately.

I know I hurt your feelings. We appreciate the glaze, bro. It's not about the feelings. It's about going out, making a video about criticism, like you call it, spreading hate, and then telling me that you didn't even look up into our content and you just think and pretend. I did, though. All of us did. We've been your biggest fans recently.

I was quite aware that the character was supposed to be 29. I was quite aware of that. I just said that it didn't matter because it doesn't. Of course he does. The background in the Lord of his character's 400. This is a lot of background. This is another topic totally different from Japan. That is not.

It's pretty pretty connected, actually. With the whole canonical age argument, it's like quite connected. Wait, no. This is like the biggest perpetrator of the canonical age argument. So it's quite connected, actually. We've been stuck on this point for it. Let's close it and then we move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But what you're mentioning about this character that is 400 years old is actually something from anime culture in Japan that also we don't like. That's why we don't use. actual human kids characters you're kind of pulling over the oh you're kind of pulling over the dog it's the same thing it is the same thing i mean you can use the dog cope all you want but you're still humanizing them and human dogs can very much be kids and i still think making one of them is very much gross and that's something you're doing that's something we're

never gonna convince us on let's just move on let's just move on it's not i don't need to convince you i just need to tell you what it's yeah we understand both sides we've been two years making this law and we've been two years making this lore and we started from the beginning considering this time somebody's not able to get two years of lore from watching one video they were channels neither in mine you understand that and that's actually something that we restrict that not for kids like you do if they get into the channel whatever a b b are we really circling back to that point you have got you the most dames motherfucker i've ever let's leave it let's leave it let's just just let's move on and then you base all your points on

on your followers commenting hate on the videos that's 10 as well my boy you could post the community post at any time if you think that's not a child this was literally one of our last questions that we had for you why like so obviously we know you're hanging out with the Rocky raccoon are you aware of the recent controversy he's been on do you know that he's been called a pedophile by basically well not called he is

yeah he does draw a child of the of the children that he drew that are look guys I the rugby just joined our discord a few days ago and I check his videos and I just see characters dancing all the time. It's his thing. I don't know. I don't know anything about the criticism about him or videos that you may be made about.

I don't care about what you made about other people. So if we dropped like actual... Would you get rid of him? He used to draw children, yeah. He used to draw children in a very perverse way. And he recently deleted those videos after the criticism came out about him. This is not something I know because I didn't know even about his channel until recently that he joined. Oh, you're associated with them.

That's why we're here. That's why we're here. In the community. In the community of Discord, he actually seems to be a nice person, polite with everyone, and he's posting YouTube videos about his characters dancing, which it's his thing. And that's it. That's his thing. I don't know what he did previously, or if what he said is true or not true, or is also rumors, or if it's proven, or if he had problems with it.

It is very proven. I don't know. He's a proven pedophile. I'd advise you to look at now, right now you have the chance to be ignorant and not look into it. So we're just giving you the information. If you want to stay ignorant about it, that's totally fine, but it would kind of look poorly, considering you're really trying to jump away from the whole child-born thing. I just don't think being friends with somebody like that would be very smart on your end.

Hey, this is just a business move, dude. Okay, I'm not even bringing personal shit into this, okay? It's just bad for business. I'm just saying that he seems like a very nice person. I'm sure he knows. It doesn't change what he did, but. I mean, we'll definitely look at. I'm sure EDP was a nice guy.

I'm sure you, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm like quite sure. Like I said, he just joined our discord. He seems really polite and super nice to everyone. I saw his videos of his characters dancing. That is his thing. And I'll look into it. But we actually, we met up to talk about our own project and what is actually happening there,

not about Rocky Raccoon. Of course. Yeah. If you want to affiliate yourself. Maybe a few days ago when he joined the chat because he saw your videos about. You've known him for less than a week. Okay. I don't.

I mean, I thought we were actually meeting to talk about our channel and how we do things. No, we are. I'm just, we're just bringing up the point because you're friends with a known pedophile or so we thought. But now we know so we can move on. Yes, yes. This is not something. Are you impressed about the point? No, I'm just telling you that this is related, bro.

It is very. This guy's a known pedophile. We need to know if you're friends with them. quite known to be. You got, he is featuring you in a thumbnail on his YouTube channel. So you guys technically have clabbed a little bit. But that he did.

That's something maybe he did because he wanted to add our character like he does with others in his channel. We didn't know that we just saw the video. Plus, I don't know if these allegations are true or not. I told you. I just met this guy every days ago. He seems really nice.

He makes puppets dancing. And that's actually kind of cute. And I don't know about the rest because it's not something that I looked into it. And also, you don't have to do research on every person that joins. We're just letting you know. So now if you don't do that research, that's on you. I don't know his work. Neither the guy personally, like, we talked for a few days, like the last days because he joined our Discord community.

And so I can literally say nothing here. Like, I, I will need to need to be. We're not expecting you to say anything. No, no, no. We just want to let you know. No, I mean, some of us for us to bring to your attention. Yeah, yeah. Thank you would be awesome, honestly.

but yeah appreciate maybe if you wait thank you I will look but like I said it's actually I don't know I mean he seems like a nice person

all right well you'll see how good of a person is I have a video later that you can actually watch where I go over everything today I'll check it out oh that's posting today right yeah it is posting today 4 p.m.

I want you to watch that video we'll send it to you I will check it out like I said I don't know this guy personally I just have him we'll let you know man it'll be a wise decision for you like not be around that person.

Yeah, bad guy. Very bad guy. I will check, I will look into it and see what I can find also about that. Thank you for the info, but like I will... Do you guys reckon that's it? Sorry? I'm just asking no other. Do we have any more questions?

Nah, I don't have any other questions for this fucking... Because I'm pretty sure we can just agree that Chapie really has just proven that he's pretty creepy. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, that's... I mean, this call hasn't really gone anywhere except for the way I thought it would go, so. Yeah.

That's definitely your point of view, which is actually something that's up for interpretation. All right. Well, we'll see how to answer. I did expect better from the whole child point of view. And like you said, like we said on the Discord, which part of it unfortunately didn't happen, that we will have a talk. You're actually just harassing and harassing and harassing and harassing. And definitely. Harassing.

I mean, I don't know. I feel like we have genuinely did have a good conversation. I feel like the 40-plus comments on mine of your channel. Let's talk about all of you. A little bit more harassment, but that's fine. Yeah, I think that the legal document that you sent to somebody for voicing their opinion is kind of harassment. But hey, man, whatever. Neither the hundreds of comments either.

I mean, clearly you have your definition of what a child is. You have your definition of all this shit. It's whatever. It's not a big deal. At the end of the day, we're ever going to agree on this. And I think you're disgusting. I think you're gross. I think you are gross person.

Yeah. I probably think this about each other, you and I, but it doesn't matter. The thing is that we don't have to like each other. I'd actually rather you don't like me. Exactly. It's fine. I mean, I can leave with it. The thing is that definitely the part of the discord that you said, we need to make a show

because that's what the people want to see. We made a show for sure. I said that. Yeah, yeah. This is definitely a show. But I am leaving this thinking that you are a pedophile. That's what I am thinking. When I leave this call, I think that I think that.

I think that Chapie's a pedophile. That's what I'm leaving this whole call being. That's going to be my opinion. I don't really, I'm not leaving a different mindset. I'm just leaving the goal of being honest. I really expected, but I didn't expect you to think it'd be okay to have someone like Monster Girl drawn NSFW of just because. You've shown your colors quite well, man.

I think whatever adult cartoon character has the right to be drawn for plus 18 people the way their artists wants. I mean, what the fuck? I mean, that's just that's a opinion for you. That's what the artist wants. That's cool. You're not wrong. but I just think that's really...

I think it's a person in Patreon and plus 18 or in only fans in pages where he's plus 18 and not fucking in social media. So you don't think there should be any nuance there? You don't think there should be any nuance of, oh, this character looks like a kid even though they're called for like 24. You don't think there should be any nuance.

So it's okay. I think if the character is 24, it's okay, guys. What are you talking about? I don't think there shouldn't be any nuance. I don't think it's okay. example. Even though they look like a child, even though they look like a child, and that's 24. Looks, talks, acts like a child, but it's 24.

Shappi. I don't know. I've actually answered a single question that I've asked. But whatever it is. This is kind of wild. Like, I don't know what this is if it's a joke or whatever. Yeah. It's not. Listen for a second.

My question was, do you think there is zero nuance? If the character is an adult, they're an adult. Is that what you think, even if they look like a child? You can't use big words like nuance. You think you don't. It's true. I don't think you may be listening to me clearly. Like I said, our characters are our style.

They don't look like children. They don't know like children. I haven't asked you about your... That's kind of funny because I didn't ask you about your character. I said, is there nuance? Is there nuance? If an adult character looks like a child, should you draw them pornographically? Yes or no.

This is the easiest question I've ever heard. If it's a child, like the anime, you just show the second picture. I don't even know what the fuck this is, but this literally looks like a child. If they look like they're below 18. Yeah, well, that little dog you have under the table literally looks like a child. Exactly. To you, literally. The dog looks at everybody.

Everybody, everybody thinks it looks like a kid. Man, get the fuck out of it. No, I actually leave. Nah, I don't want to do this anymore. I think we can just hang it up. I don't want to continue this goal. We're going to get anywhere. We've had a cool.

We understand your point of view. We just, we've confirmed that you really are. If you're not, then have this conversation. I mean, you can think whatever you want. All of us are leaving thinking you're a pedophile. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay.

That's okay. So, okay, fine. If you want to think that and say that, fine. We actually not. You should actually check the show from the beginning of it. You don't want to do that because that doesn't pay your bills. And that's totally fine. Dude, I know what the ages of your characters are.

If it looks, talks, and acts like a child, then it's a child. I don't give a fuck what your lore is. You think everyone of your fans are seeing your first video and understands. Because I can tell you. Because I can tell you for a fact, your first video explains all the law and everything. That is not your most viewed video. And people will not know. Some people will just find your video scrolling and then bam.

That's the first thing they see. Oh, that's such a child. So they're going to think it's a camera short. That's the way people work. Human means. Their fault, though. That's actually their fault, though. We program age, race, gender.

These are the three things we think about. And that's human psychology. Okay, okay. I took a cause in human. Go at that point. When humans, look at other humans, the first things they register, age, race, gender. That is the first sharp. ass finger life guys let's point let's point that a person is crawling down and watching videos and

pops up on one of our videos okay and they misinterpret like be over example like whatever and say oh hey guys this looks like children let's just say it does even though without looking into it because we think so you don't have to look into something of course you do well so when you see hasbola when you see hasbola do you think that's a child excuse me when you see hasbola okay i'll put this i'll put this in a guess wait who's hasbola don't you'll You don't know who has bull is? Okay. It's... Okay, so is this a child?

Only the greatest person on the planet. I don't know who has bullies, but... Look at the gift. In the chat. Does that look like a child do you? I think I saw memes about this guy, but the guy is not a child. I know there's a fact. Exactly, yes, he's not a child. He's not.

But he does look like a child. On first glance. How is that we... That's what I think. If you looked at him for the first time... No, this is how it makes sense, right? This ties in because you're saying that, oh, first glance doesn't matter. That wouldn't, like, that wouldn't have your opinion on anything.

you'd have to look into it. No, no, what I'm saying, what I'm saying. A lot of people on first glance when they look at Hasbullah, they'll think, oh, that's a child. They look into it if they're interested and find out, okay, yeah, he's a grown adult people are going to look into it. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that until you appeared, our fans, our adult fans on Instagram,

because that's where we were posting most of the stuff and where we had the fandom. We have maybe one of the way. You should stick, too. So that means you must have cultivated a really weird audience if they have no issue with that. I'm sorry, but that means you're harboring multiple people like yourself that think it's okay. I'll just say it MK, let it rip, man Let it rip From our person

I know what you're like I'm actually so disappointed Chapie I'm not gonna lie I'm really seriously dude You have done nothing but disgust me this whole call In my first video about you I defended you I said oh give him the benefit of the doubt I blame the parents I'm the one who said okay He's doing his best to try and keep the people away from his channel or whatever

I'll be honest after this call I've had a complete one a you man Complete no. Completely. Any kind of idea that I had like, oh, maybe he's a cool person, completely gone. Especially when you threatened me. Like, that was awesome. I'm a very empathetic person. Try to ruin my fucking income.

Dude, I mean, that's not right. And also, I talked to your cousin, M&K, before to have this interview. And what he said about it, what he said about it is that you hated me from the beginning and that I should have the interview to try to talk to you about my background. Do you have a reason? I believe it's completely. untrue that I know he said that he said that all of you actually of course don't like our content that's not a secret and at the same time we don't hate you we definitely do not hate you i mean i don't

know about be it made the content i'm like i think what you make is really on like i think what you make is that's okay i mean you guys are i do in fact i'm sure i'm sure you're a good person maybe i am a good person two more thanks and our characters do not actually uh look like i said in our style and our opinion in our fans' opinion until the other day, like, I've heard of a few people that, of course, didn't like the humor because it was too push and so on. We didn't have this problem before. And I think that even you do not believe that our characters look like children.

You literally just say that to bring views to your channel, which I don't get it. I do believe that actually 100 million fucking percent. Because you misinterpreted and change things and lie all the time in your videos to get views. I want you to look at those screenshots. Bro, we don't have to lie to make people believe that that looks like a kid. face that does not look like a kid.

Or as this is our style, which is chibi style. I think I explained it before I don't know it in this interrogation or whatever you want to call it. I'm so hung up on the statement. Yeah, we lie all the time. Hey, Shabby, go and look at any other video. No, listen, look at any other video that doesn't include you. If you can point out a blatant lie that I've done, I might give you my bank account, bro. I don't fucking lie.

Do you even know the meaning of what a pedophile is? Like, a pedophile is a person that I do. Yeah. Yeah. It actually must have with kids, you know, and abuses kids. Yes, we don't do that. No, if you're sexually attracted to children, you're better. But we're not.

I mean, what the fuck are you talking about, dude? Like, that's, it's like saying, let me, let me summarize this whole thing in one sentence, which is your characters for us don't look like adults, neither for our fans. So, therefore, you are sexually attracted to children? I mean, are you fucking dumb or something? What, what are you talking about? I mean, animating a child, you know, it takes more than just two seconds. You have to think about that for many, many hours.

And I mean, if it even crosses your mind that you're, you know, thinking about drawing a character that looks like a child sucking cock, you're, you have to think about that for an extended amount of time. I mean, I'm just letting you talk because you're making you're digging such a hole right now. It's actually kind of funny. I don't understand. But there's nothing to understand. There's very simple things to understand. You go to 2023 when this started. You actually see the lore.

It's our style. A six-year-old is going to be inclined to do that. One child is going to be inclined to look into that. What, what, what, what? No six-year-old scrolling through their shorts feed because, you know, because in your video as we know as no aid for kids. Parents supervision on an app that you need to be for team to have an account.

Kids still see your shit. You can see your content. That's what we're saying. That's not your fault, shabby. It's your responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen. No. It's our responsibility to restrict our channel not for kids. And that's it.

And to not show visual stuff because if we do anyways, YouTube automatically. we're restricted last 18. But that doesn't make the chance of people seeing your content that are under the age of 30 and zero. It doesn't make the... It doesn't make the chance. You're pushing the kids. You've taken the steps.

Even in the situation where you say, okay, yeah, you've taken the steps. Cool. Let's just, let's just entertain this idea. That you've taken the steps. You've done what you can. With what you've done, children can still see your content. Whether, whether you want them to do a guy. Yeah, of course.

But the difference is, the handicap of YouTube. The difference is what we're doing. isn't something that can harm children. When we react to your videos... What are you talking about? When we react to videos, we react to videos online. We talk about the bad things that could be removed from the planet.

Let's point something out about your content too at this moment. You are showing our videos. You are showing our videos in your channel. That you deem to be 13. Yes, yes, yes, that we make and so on and we create it. You're showing them on your channel for other purposes of criticism and so on. like we already talked about exposing those videos also to possible children that are lying about their age.

Plus, uh, teaching kids about hating people about not looking into the information of a channel. And bullying other kids because because, oh, Shappi, shut the fuck up. You are molding so hard.

You have the most hurt feelings I've never fucking heard. You guys are not making any kids, you're making kids, but yo, Shappie, please go crying. I don't want to be in this. You genuinely feel cybergely, chapie. Do you actually feel shabby?

How is us criticizing your shock By all of you? Not by all of you. Like what? How on earth is that side of the being? How are we teaching people to bully people? Yeah, it makes no sense. It makes no sense.

We all our videos, we say we do not We do not. We don't console. Hey, you guys don't agree with me? You fucking bullies? No, no, no, no, no. Like when you are a different opinion and other people think they're saying. We have the same opinion about kids lying about their agency and content

that they shouldn't, correct? Which is, which is they are seeing my videos in my channel sometimes probably because they lie about their age. You have way more followers. Yeah, yeah. Also in yours. And you have way more followers. And that's not your fault.

Neither is my fault. Actually, YouTube shoot videos with ID. No, it's actually not. And on the other side, you're actually spreading hatred. You don't look into the... It's actually against the fucking guidelines to send people to your channel to incite hatred. We don't do that. Guys, when you take information...

...to go to your videos and send... I've never told... Anybody to go to your channel. Go to Shabby's channel and absolutely hate on the guy. Nobody says that. Look at the comments. Don't go to Shepley's channel and hate on. That's cool. That's not our fool.

We took, we took the steps like you. We took the steps. We don't bear responsibility for our fans. Anybody that does something like that, I wouldn't claim as a fan. And I'm sure the others can say the same. And we don't endorse that. We don't endorse people going to other people's channels we talk about.

And, you know, going in their comments. We would receive community guidelines. if we did incite people to go to your channel and incite hatred. Yeah, that is like... We would get taken down. YouTube TOS. So, like I said, the copyrights dragon song where I talk about it, to conclude this not interviewers,

it was not kind of an interview at all. That's not what I had in mind. Okay, let's grow up now. Let's not even call it not interview. Let's just say continue this conversation. Come on. Yes. So I just wanted to say that when people actually see your content

and our videos in your channel that are also apparently restricted, not for kids and so on, they consume the content anyways. At the end of the day, it's what it is until YouTube doesn't install something with ID that they can actually prove that the person is not lying about their age. And finally, also, the fact that you say, oh, I didn't look into the channel because it wasn't necessary because my fans think so, because the people that watch my videos think so because they are commenting on your... I was going off a general perception, but I did know that you were trying to cope and call that character 29. I did know that. All of us are completely aware.

Something you make in that, you know, like a criticism, a criticism video can be many, in many different ways. One of one of who is the one you make, actually, which is in most of the videos that we've seen about your content, people just go to the channels of these people and throw a ton of hate, which is fine if you're not old. Well, of course, neither is my phone that people are all about their age in YouTube, neither is yours. Yeah, but we took the steps to actually make sure that the people sending hate. We do actively take the steps to.

Stop that. You do not take the steps to keep away children. And we know this. We just went over this. Shappie, we're not going to keep going to surface, dude. Wrap it up. Just wrap it up, man. Just wrap it up. You only just took the links out, which is what we like. We would do what. We would do what. We said, yeah, okay, that's good. We're having a good job, man. You know what? Hey, I can. I can conclude. You are. I can. Yeah, well done.

Why don't we overstrict our channels plus 18? I mean, it makes no sense, you know? Like, it's 13 plus. A teenagers consume our context. It's quite a bit of sense. You push. Just keep the 13 plus stuff with the 13 plus stuff. Everything needs to say away from the growing audience with the growing audience. Let the children with the children shit. That's done.

I mean, out of YouTube, are you happy with that? Great. We have an agreement on that. But don't go around calling people Peters. You don't even know who I am for fuck's sake. Like neither.

I don't have. Dude, we don't have to. You put child porn on YouTube. And it doesn't make any sense towards my persona because I'm not, first of all. Secondly, I've been,

actually working in arts and in fashion for so many years. You know nothing about my background and you just go on it, you know, over and over again because that's what's interest people, like calling people peos out of the blue. I mean, what the fuck, dude? That's really not the blue. Dude, this is not baseless shit. It's probably the most wild thing I've ever heard. Yeah, we don't just basically.

That actually makes me. As if we've drawn something that looks like a child underneath a name. A dead child, by the way. That's your perception. That's your, that's the most of the majority. That is the general perception. I can get it. Everybody else is in this school.

If you were to put that character on a huge screen, worldwide, majority of the people would say that that is a child. I'm sorry, but that's just the point. We should go to an opinion. I'm headstrong. That's an adult. Yeah, you're just fucking crazy. No, no, there's not about saying.

If you don't believe that, then that's your problem. That's the truth, though. There is no. I'm 100% sure The majority people would think Yep, that's a child Your channels definitely From your fans definitely

What they're thinking Posting up Dude, we invite you to post it on your community tab And ask your audience if that's a child I could fully After this call is done I'm gonna go outside to a five random people And ask them, yo

Is this a child? Does this look like a child? Would that make you happy? No fans completely third party impartials I hope they actually understand our humor And how it is and if they don't Well, good for you Okay, we will do it

We will do it. It will be upon first glance. Anyways, do you have any other question, guys? Because this is not been an interview at all. Like,

this is just people just accusing people. I don't care what it's been. This never was a fucking interview. This is a conversation. Whatever it is. Yeah. We just wanted to understand. We're just talking like adults right now,

Shappie. I mean, I don't understand. This is a confrontation. Let's be honest. This was more of a confrontation. You wanted to understand your point of view. You wanted to understand us.

We got our points across clearly. I'm just, we understand where we both stand. No one's changing. I think we've kind of got everything we need. We want to just, we want to closure and some sort of confirmation. Everything, definitely not a productive conversation if you want to call it a conversation. I feel it.

At least we got you to take the porn out of your 13 plus YouTube channel. I think that's pretty fucking productive if you ask me. That is very productive. You know where we stand. You know where we stand. I think that's pretty productive. That is very productive. Yeah.

You just feel like, because it didn't go your way. We got something done here. Yeah. Yeah. You look like a fucking, like an absolute creeps. You're like, well, guys. I don't think it was that productive. Okay.

That's kind of on you, but all right. Which is what I thought, unfortunately. And it's just harassment. That's fair. You could have that opinion. I would not call it a harassment because you had the chance. You could have left a call. You could have left whenever you want it.

I wouldn't say to yourself. This is an harassment. You can choose to leave whenever you'd like. So you can't claim this as harassment. We really can. We wouldn't have forced you in. Okay, guys. Honestly, I didn't even want to fucking do this.

Let's agree and disagree. It seems like you did. But yeah, let's agree to disagree. No, honestly. I'm glad you're glad you like the views that we gave you. Well, Jeff, on doing our content the way it is. And you can just...

30 million people have seen a child on their screen sucking... It's a child. It's probably what you say so. It's fine. You know, and that's fine. If that's fine, if you're the only one that doesn't think you're a pedo and 12 million plus other people think you are, then a...

That's okay. That's okay. Because it's only your opinion that matters. It's only your opinion that matters. Inside joke is still funny to, your fans then that's cool we're keep your inside joke bro i'm still here okay let's just

people like it's only your fans that think so because we didn't have this problem before and close it here not just our fans of course it is but it doesn't man it is not only fans let's just let's just agree to disagree okay this was definitely everyone knows our fans are cult like fan bases and they're all

haters they're all disgusting little haters let's hope we can do so my fans are all haters yours are all pedophiles all we can leave actually well we have the full you i hope you the full cool footage if you want to debunk anything that we say in our videos nothing i think i think it's pretty clear if you'd like the full footage i could i could give it to you myself if you didn't record from the beginning repeat repeat if you'd like the full footage i could give it to you at the end no no i we've been recorded from the beginning don't worry okay perfect you can you can't

sure and deba anything that we say. Keep on doing the way it is, and we will keep it doing the way it is for us. And at least we know where we stand in the union ecosystem. Let's just cut it. And let's hope you make a lot of money, like you said. And let's hope that actually we put it out. Well, let's hope your channel continues to grow and do whatever. And let's keep children out.

I hope yours too, of course. And let's hope that at some point there are stricter rules on It's like so fake, but I appreciate it, Shepi. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what it is, right? Fake. That's what you do. Hey, man.

Anything to protect the kids? Anything to protect the children. Yeah. Yeah. We know what we stand. We know what we stand. We know what our places in the YouTube. In the YouTube biases.

If you think you do, so, we think we do what we do. And that's it. If you're just like that, that's okay. Let's just end it. And nothing, it was a pleasure anyways. I hope everyone. It was good talk. at least talk to you

the face of the channel. That was... Let's actually... I think we can drop it. I'm okay. Yeah, let's drop it and let's keep on going with whatever. I mean, we're not going to ever agree. Yeah, yep.

Of course, we can agree with many things, but that's it. Cheers, guys. All right, fuck off. Yep. Bye-bye. Fuck off. Bye-bye. Oh, job.

What a fucking bitch, bro. Productive call, boys. Productive-ass call, motherfuckers. Oh, fuck that piece of shit. I'll have a least three more times. bro how can you look at a screenshot like that and not say that that's a child

seriously I'm keeping this in I'm still recording by the way I'm still I'm keeping this in look at it we gotta get the post game that's a kid bro

that's it oh my god dude he defended his fucking characters ages more than he defended like him like us saying that yeah bro you like children

I think that's such crazy work he really went on in that point But like the second I said he likes children, like, no-uh. It's like, okay. Well, maybe let's, maybe let's dig into that a tiny bit. But, hey, man, like, we kind of knew, this is a thing. I went into this call knowing that he's not going to have answers for these things because they're just simply the truth. So it's like, it's kind of hard to have answers to that when you're just like objectively wrong.

I say he's very easily horrible. The way the cool gradually got louder. What the hell? Yeah. I'm looking at my audio and it starts off so normal. All right. Well, I'm going to go ahead and end my recording. Subscribe to Bido, Glider Guy, M.K. and Rith.

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