Sad Boyz - AI Has Cooked TikTok

Episode Date: March 28, 2026

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Can you do Candy Love Island? I'm going to die. I'm going to die if Candy Love Island's a real thing. I'm honestly going to expire on camera. Can we search to see... Is that? Oh, no. No way.

Oh, no. No way. Oh, no. Tons of followers. Oh, no. Let's watch episode one. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis.

I'm Jordan. Hey. What the hell is up? What hell is up? Does it feel weird for you to hivot from... Because it's a show where we, you know, open we say how are you what's up etc but we hang out for about two hours before we record the show best part so i they don't even get that it's i mean it fucking rules we're so funny uh well

we say all of our funniest stuff burn it out yeah and then then we just give them the the bee the bee tier stuff it's like it was a controlled burn of a forest it is it is funny though to like hype up your friendship it's like you're posturing like yeah you guys don't even know the type of friendship we're having all camera you could see you guys wouldn't get it No, I think it's like it reminds me of, I'm not just a working bot. I'm not just a productivity machine. You hear that? We're actually friends.

We're actually friends. Can you believe that? I do think about that a lot because, you know, so many like creative duos have like spurned their relationship and stuff like that because the thing becomes. And I think that for us, and you can tell me if this is wrong, and maybe we have an argument. No, but I do feel like our relationship to us is more important than the show. Yes. Which is a thing that has like stayed consistent.

I think is like... If the show was somehow a catalyst for that, getting for that suffering... Like getting in the way or something. Restructure it or quit or something. And more honestly, partially because I just don't think the show would be good. Yeah. I think it would be... I don't think we have the stamina to put up the veil for an hour and a half.

Yeah. It would read pretty clear, or at the very least, we'd have, like, nothing all that interesting to say. I don't think I could do, like, don't talk to me. Let's just do the show. That would be crazy to me. Oh, my God. You know, like, one of my favorite shows was... Sad boys.

Second favorite show? Oh, okay. Okay, good. No, it's whatever. No, continue. You say it was because now it's sad boys? I mean, I watch sad boys more than anything else, but I'm forced to. Always nice to be a fan.

We have you. We put you in, we put you underground, like one of those Pocopia farms. You're like strap my island. We get the little strap wheel. I do like the idea of like in Pocopia when you have Pokemon like processed materials or whatever, you'll like see like Tinkaton like hitting a piece of iron or something. I like the idea of Anastasia on a laptop going. I saw the TV glow lighting. Yeah.

But on the Good Wife, like, it's kind of notorious for the fact that two of the main stars hated each other. Crazy. And often had to film their scenes separately. And so you would see like a standin's head, you know, or they would just green screen it. And it's like, how did that happen? That shit pisses me off a little bit. So I'm like, brother.

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and I'm excited to read this one. I'm a fan of Roy's work. I'm gonna listen to it in the car because I'm Gen Z. I listen, yeah. What's going on today? Two separate phone calls. Everyone's getting calls

and none of us have changed our ringtone. That's a good boy, default Andy. No, I think mine's default too. What the hell? Am I cool if it's not or if it is? What is yours? Default. No, I want to know what it really is.

It's an episode of podcast. It's a full episode of Sad Boys. It's a hour 30 minutes. I did love when you could make a song your ring. When you can make a song, your ringtone. Yeah. We complete each other sandwiches. The, okay, but I'm going to play devil's advocate,

and then I'm going to play devil's enemy. Defense attorney? The gall. Devil's prosecutor. There's a part of me that feels like we lost a little whimsy when we, stopped changing our ringtones. But I think it's also when, I feel like that was also a time

when it was more normal for someone to get a call. That's true. You're investing in the novelty that you knew would pay off. I knew for a fact that Lonely Islands like a boss would reward me. Like a boss. Circued, age 15. And then I was, that belief was put to the challenge when my phone went off in my first day

of my psychology class, my first day at this school. And my incredibly white teacher was just like, what is that, rap? And the whole room was, I was like, it's from only, it's from an American, uh, yes. Yes, it was. I'm so sorry. But at the same time, that shit was kind of annoying. It's a little corny. It could be corny.

Yeah. Who knows? You know what it has the same energy as putting lyrics as your MSN status or your aim status? Which, again, oh. Okay, these things are the same to me. And maybe it's a sign of the times. Maybe it's a sign that we've, maybe it's a sign that we've corporatized.

Maybe it's a sign that we've funneled our creativity and whimsy into different places. Same thing. Default ringtone. Going from MySpace to Facebook. MySpace, creative. I can change my CSS. I can make a song play and everything. Facebook, cold, corporate.

Tell me what I want. a LinkedIn page. Polk. Polk. Polk me. And poke you. And poke you. Polkopia.

Polkopia. Yeah. The poektopia is where it's a utopia of being poked all the time. Yeah, what a dream. I do recall at least once in my life poking someone to flirt. Oh, yeah.

Great. All it could possibly be. That's what it was. Because that's the way of flirting when you're annoying in like 15. You're not going to poke your grandma. Well. Right in the eyes.

So she can't see who I'm really poking. Also, everybody Spotify. Everybody, yeah, it's like we, because we used to have different solutions to all these problems, and then we've all, like, kind of funneled in. And I now, I think, kind of naturally have, I'll catch myself,

pushing back against alternatives. I've been like brainwashed effectively into, great, a green text. And then I have to stop myself and go like, shut up, shut up, shut up, come on, it's fine. And my first job, like my first, like, big boy job was as an Android developer. I used to like do and I used to write Android apps. Used to build things.

I used to build things in this country. It used to be infrastructure week, but the technical version. I have a weird thing, a weird trend that I'm noticing where a lot of my friends have iPhone wife, Android husband. I think that's a your friend's problem. Yeah, what? When you bring your friends or grungus and telephone and whatever.

You kind of did say like the equivalent of like a lot of my friends, wife eat peanut butter sandwich, husband eat pad tie. Husband have pad tie on a dinner. Interesting. But so I find myself not texting both of them, similar to

Jordan's thing where I'll catch myself being like, well, I'm not going to text him. He's on an Android. And it's like, no, I should just text both of them. It's the walled garden. There's an accessory wife, you mean? Like a, there's a collaboration between them. A mullet of sorts. Business wife.

Businesses. The thing is, party husband. There's nothing other, like it's entirely Apple's fault that the walled garden of Apple's stuff exists. And it's a business, you know, decision that they, made because they could make everything kind of gel together. But competitively, there's not a reason to do so. And America, the beautiful, no, America is kind of relatively unique in this, because I feel like across the world, WhatsApp is like more commonly used and that doesn't have

the same cross-platform issues. So the green text. prejudice is real and I hate that it is. Yeah. And I hate that it's in my heart. But I participate in it. 100%. I participate. I participate in it now in a like,

it's what I imagined like a sort of like 60 year old semi resentful uncle who's a never Trump guy, maybe just doesn't vote anymore, feels about people of color as like the term. It goes like, well, I want to say, I'll just let it go. When my friend gets, I won't ever say like get an eye. But recently a friend of mine got one because they were using it for like There was some proprietary software that they needed for their special stream thing they were doing So they got an iPhone pivoted fully iPhone and I kind of soundly was like I'm not saying anything No, it's good. Oh my daughter's not dating a black guy

I remember when I got an iPhone. I was like I'm joining the cool kids That's how it felt it's so effective there even was a there even was a platform for a while that I believe what they were doing was so security-wise fraught that it immediately like floundered but there was like a way to it was like an Android phone they could send iMessage messages and the way that it worked was that there was a server farm somewhere that was like a bunch of Mac minis oh that would basically like pass through your text to where they were going and that is like

the way to get but the issue is you had to like expose all of your text and plain text to this like company unencrypting your it's a horrible from a security standpoint I don't want to send my nudes over SMS I'll give it to this third party for a second but you know tech companies are

very upstanding and trustworthy all the time right yeah so that's the thing it's like we are it's like we are drinking But then again, it's the war of the, it's like Apple and Google. It's like two of the largest companies. So it's like I don't, I can't really feel a way about it. It's not like that Google is the little guy, you know?

Well, that's another like funny, damaging thing to our psyches is I have found myself being like, well, I'm not going to order this from Amazon because they're evil. But I will buy it from Home Depot. Yeah. And it's like, home depot. B's not. Like anything else, I think there's like,

when everything's so incredibly overwhelming, the nicest, you can trick yourself into feeling like you are agent and in control. And you want to be superior. Little teeny wee new nuances. In theory, nothing wrong with that.

But I do think sometimes it can be a smokescreen to kind of like get enough dopamine to get through the day because like, well, I actually did my laundry on eco setting when really what I should probably be doing

is like calling my representatives. I don't really want to do that. Well, I was thinking about... The good wife? I was thinking about the good wife. A show that I love almost as much as sad boys. That show's got to be fictional. A good wife?

Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah, more like... I hate her. Yeah, that's... I said that in a meeting recently and I... With someone who we didn't know and I had to be like,

hey, by the way, I'm not married and that wasn't a... Like, I can't even remember why. It was like a man a bit. Sounds like my wife. Well, quit talking sounds like my wife. Yeah, it was like, it was, like, this person might think I'm referring to my ex-wife that's a real person instead of a fictional lady that doesn't exist. Because it's not, I feel like I forgot that I'm now at the age where I could have been married. Yeah.

Like, the joke is a throwaway to, like, imagine that. Imagine I had someone I resented. It's like, well, you don't know me. Oh, my God, when you're 18, the my ex-wife joke hits, like, crack. Yeah. Okay, so I was going to say something. about, I was thinking about, we were talking about calling our representatives,

we were talking about before the good wife. Tech companies being bad. Tech companies being bad. I think that might be where it is. The one that I always think about with this is like, we shit on Elon a lot, but I don't like flip off Tesla owners, unless they have a cyber truck,

but like it's like because yes, it's trendy to like hate on, Elon and his car company, but the good guys are not the CEOs of Ford and every other, like... They're just not famous. Yeah, that's the, it's like being like, oh, fuck Amazon. I only shop at Walmart. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I'm absolutely. I think you should get a significant ding to your credit score if you get a sticker that's like, I got this before I found out about email. I agree. I'm not owned. I agree. Because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, you're not confident enough to, Own that you just have a car. It's an electric car. It's fine. Yeah, and also don't do Twitter while I'm driving

Don't do Twitter at me. Don't do discourse at me while I'm on the road. Yeah, don't hold on I'm I'm spending one of precious little times in the day where I'm not at home. Okay, but hear me out. Don't do online at me Hear me out expensive bit, but we buy a cyber truck and get one of the bumper stickers that says I got this before Elon went crazy. That's not a bad idea because It's funny. And it's dated. Wait, and we also get it truck nuts. Oh, it needs truck nuts. In the front.

Hanging on the dash. Have you noticed, so in L.A. there's a lot of cyber trucks. There's so many. And yet it's always a surprise. And I do feel like it's one of those things where there's probably, it's like a fire truck where you just like don't see them that often. So they're very noticeable. Like I see a cyber truck.

I glance over. I'm like, all right, who's driving it? Is it the stereotype that I expect? and if it's ever not like a chud-looking single man, then I'm a little surprised. I'm swerving for a second. I'm like, whoa, like what do you mean? There is, you know, if you pay like GTA or something,

and the cars are just randomly populated by NPCs, and sometimes there's like a 60-year-old man riding a motorcycle, and you're like, oh, I see, it was, it's just randomly distributed. That's what it feels like. Driving passing, especially like chud, chud, chud, chud. Elfly Asian, man. But a high percentage of people with cyber trucks, put um wraps on them yes what did you pay for i'm like what do you like i almost took a photo

why why because they they didn't realize until they bought it that that that unfinished metal actually stains really easily you get fingerprints on it the filthiest looks i've ever seen it looks like a post-apocalyptic immediately like with before the year is up first of all people can draw a penis on it and it'll never come off. What? Yeah. That should be illegal. No.

But I think they're putting wraps. So I'm just having a realization that I have a white car. Any entrepreneurial prankster teenager, I'm a canvas. But I don't mean, I don't mean draw. I mean put your finger on it. You're not using any ink, right? You're just using your finger. And the, so I think the solution that this,

they have found the cheapest solution is to just put a rap on it because then the the rapper is not as easy to deface. Describing NWA at a pitch meeting. The rapper is not so easy to deface. In a hycun format. In the next slide, you will see why we fuck the police. And the, okay, so what now is there a, is there a practical reason to make the rap cyan blue? Yes. Or as annoying as possible.

I guess you did buy a cyber truck, so you already didn't have any taste. Look at me. There was a picture. I wish I had it handy, but there was a picture going around the internet of a cyber truck wrapped in images of different chemical compositions that were like fentanyl. What the hell? That's like what the DEA guy, or not DEA, what's the FBI director, Cash Patel. It's like something that Cash Patel would wear.

Yes, dude. 100%. He would do that, but then he'd have to wear extended boots just to reach the pedals. He is so bad at his job. There's so many of these. He might be the biggest, like, loser, like capital L loser because he spends his time. He is one of the few people on Earth that is aspiring to be friends with Elon Musk. He's like somehow a bar below that.

Yeah, he really wants it. At least he's ugly. It's like, and if you're Elon, you see those like bottom feeders, like kind of like nipping at your, like the nematodes. They're like, I want to talk to you. And then I'm like, wow,

that's crazy because like, I don't even want that. That's not desirable. Wow. And I don't think he does either. He just, what he wants is, like,

to be the guard kid. And respect. Everyone love me. But the things that typically get you respected are usually just like being competent and pleasant for a long period of time.

And it like cultivates this. It's like plaque on your teeth. It has to like settle and get in there. Whereas immediate gratification is just like, I'll pay you in a horse to have my child or whatever. That's not, it feels it was like, well, I'm having a kid and I have a lot of money. So now people like me. It's paying someone to play Path of Exile for you.

It's like, but the reason people would respect you as a gamer would be your game skill. He's like, no, I'll just, it's like people that pay to level up in Cod. The most respect I've ever felt for someone, let me actually name this. Is it? You don't want to hesitate, maybe think about it for a second? Yeah, I got to look up his name. Jor didn't know. Chig Oconquo.

Oconquo. He, Tennessee Titans tight end, by the way, TTT, maxed his Runecape Iron Man. And that was the most respect I felt for someone, as someone who is like eventually probably going to do that maybe at some point in the distant. It'll, it would take,

it will probably be five years from now. At the current pace? No, because at the pace where I, there's certain skills that I'm genuinely avoiding, and I will probably never get 99 ruin crafting. But then again, never say never.

So that's the thing. It's like some skills, like, because you don't get anything for doing it. It's one of the, it's a thing that, but is a chore, you kind of get a max cape,

but like, it's a chore, mostly a chore. at that point but I have like really high skills like around the 90s like for most of my skills but to get 99

is so much work and you have to get all of your materials it takes like 4,000 hours to like Max and Iron Man desirable though for you it's like a patch on my jacket it's like a prestige

type thing I see that you said I mean it'll by the end of life it's like I think I'm most critical did it. But not an Ironman. He maxed his regular account. You do have a runescape jacket with a bunch of patches on it right. In my mind, yeah. There was one of the old CEOs of Jagex was selling some of his old possessions on eBay because he wanted to clear it out or whatever. And I considered buying various pieces of old runescape swag.

That would be. But yeah, it's, it's, it's. one of those things where I'm like, okay, I'll do this slowly but surely. And if, in it, and the thing is, if Russell and Drew stop playing the game, then I, and I don't have people to talk to. It's going to be, it's going to be tough. If a tree falls in the forest, kind of, you know. Yeah, like the fact that like, I convinced Russell started Iron Man and then he like made

a lot of progress on his, I'm like, okay, great. And then like, Drew isn't a group Iron Man that's like, they're all like, have various aspects of their progression beyond. me, it like gives me something to shoot for. And then there's even people like Tier Zoo Players Roonscape. It's always crazy to me. I mean, I guess actually you're in this cohort. But I guess I just, I know you so it's not as jarring.

But it's always interesting me when like a creator with no direct relationship to some kind of like ultra elaborate hobby or project. Like Roonscape is my. Oh, Luca is really good at Overwatch. Yeah. Yeah. And it's when you, and then you remember that like every second to second long and you go like, well, yeah. There's so much life.

Like, why wouldn't that be able to potentially happen? Or Leonard Williams, who is on the Seattle Seahawks, is really into magic. And we have a ton of mutual friends through magic. And so Leonard Williams, if you want to play magic sometime. What are you scared? But I feel like he's like a person that I feel like if I, I like might meet just in the zeit guys. But that's like, I literally listen to podcasts. with that NFL tight end.

Because I wanted to hear about his journey because I'm so fascinated, because I might be in a small group of people who knows anything about the NFL and also Roomscape. And everyone listening to the podcast of him describing how he's like in practice, like AFKing on his phone and shit, I'm like, oh, he's so me. I do wonder if like, we've got this question a few times

in like maybe Patreon episodes and stuff or like Q&A or something like that, where like people will be like, I'm moving to a new city. How do I make friends? That feels like it's the most common question. that we've ever gotten for whatever reason. It's tough.

I guess as we've done it. I mean, I still feel that. But like, I can't think of anything closer than super focus interest taken to the whatever can be your kind of goal, right? Like, I'm going to really get into this thing that you genuinely have to enjoy. You can't kind of manifest it. You have to actually enjoy fighting your community. You have to go out of your way to create that third space.

Yes. Because like, you don't have much time you have. Yeah. That's, I don't. I also say that I'm like the only person that should. be playing Roonscape. I'm the only person who has like a lifestyle that can support it. Cultivate.

Because there is like there's a thing where like there's a lot of like on Reddit like I feel like the most I use Reddit is reading people talking about various like I'll type in something related to Roonscape and then Reddit and then I'll see how various people approach a certain thing. And a lot of times it is people who like don't have a lot of time to actively play at their job and they're like, well, I was able to do this on my phone at work because it was was like AFK or whatever and then whatever whatever or even my little brother like uh I need to hit him up because he randomly like got 99 mining on a Rootscape account like somewhat recently and I'm

like I'm like come play with brother I'm like play I'm like no actually get into but he's like I got shit to do and I'm like okay motherfucker yeah I guess I could do something I need to I need to I need to have him out here. I keep telling him I'm going to like bring him out and we'll like have a time. And I think that'll be the boys out. I get my cousins out. Yeah, I mean,

I think it would be fun also like kind of when we had wrestle on nights. I bet there's like lore. Like I have a scar from when he like accidentally stabbed me in the leg. And it's like I still have it. I still think about it. Does he know? Does he remember? I think he knows because I beat his ass.

He has 50 scars. It's like it's like the little, the little brother thing of like I was like holding some scissors and he was three years younger than me. So he's like 30 now. But he like slapped the scissors out of my hand and they went directly into my leg. And I'm bleeding and I just like I'm beating his ass.

I'm like what the fuck are you doing? That's how like a war started a thousand years ago. Generations of war in Europe. I have so many stories about him that I could not tell on the main pod because I would be

because I don't want to put him on blast not behind a paywall but if he was here I'd be like hey can I tell the story Game over pal because I already have Also I because none of my

Me and my siblings weren't like raised together Like most people don't even know I have like siblings And stuff so that could be Fun Yeah I could fly my Maybe whatever got my brothers out from Kenya Samples family reunion Dude that would be crazy

Speaking of Africa What are you're going to say now We have a bunch of other stuff we're supposed to talk about But this is our podcast We can do whatever we want Have you ever watched 90-day Fiance? Oh, yeah. So listen, listen.

Emotionally tricky show for me, I will say. Well, no, dude. Emotionally tricky. Like, for me, that show feels like it's made with a dark energy. You know what I mean? It feels like dark reality TV. It's necromancy. Yeah, like, yeah, like they're practicing the dark arts.

Like, um, okay, so. Dr. Frankenstein, it's like, okay, yeah, his mission might have some merit, but his methods. His dark and evil. Look into the darkness and it looks back. Right. So I have never watched the show. All I knew about it was it was like somewhat related like people would have like green card marriages question mark and then like do they work out like the drama after they work out. And so it's like for obvious reasons like that isn't the most appealing thing to me. But. Um, we spend enough of my time reading about visas. No, literally. But there is a different. I guess it's like a pre show. It's called before the 90. I was watching before the 90 days and I was like, I thought this is what the show was. It would make more sense. Because it's about these people like meeting their like, and this is true.

This is like from the currently airing season. It's like we've been dating online for seven years and we've never met in person. First of all, what the fuck? I don't just. And it's usually not like finances and logistics certainly are a case of it. But so often they don't do the before the 90 days. Oh, like historically they would, they didn't. and they just move out first, which is a huge financial investment.

Not to mention, so most of the show, most of the marriages, race and chips are built around a K-1 visa, which is the more accessible visa for, it's the more accessible visa for fiancée's. So you come out and you get 90 days to formalize the marriage and then get... I didn't realize that it's based on the visa term. Yeah, which is... Which might be where some of the demonic element starts. Yeah, I'm actually thinking we could start a reality show called H1B Mine. So the reason I feel like it's got a demonic energy to it is because every relationship that is shown to me, I go, this is never going to work.

Both of you should run away. Because it's always, and I feel like this is their selecting for this. Like when you apply to be on the show, they have to be looking for, okay, we kind of want to deal. demonize and vilify the concept of immigrants. So we want one that's a little devious. We can't, we want a sneaky one. Yeah, and I don't know if they're actually sneaky, but they present sneaky. They're edited, they're edited, rogue.

Yeah, they're edited, they're edited, rogue, they're edited sleight of hand. Thieves can't. Yeah. And then, and then there's someone in the States who's a little off. They live a lifestyle that's like, that's not like anyone I know. and that feels like the reality shows that select for like my strange addiction and like my whatever like they only hire cousins every everyone on it is a cousin it like feels like it's like if I had a show which I do it's called Jeremy Johnson Gold called I Found a Weird Guy it's like it would all be like that those would be the selections yes it's people that get hired for Tim and Eric that core and then yeah it's like retired magicians term pickup artists reformed into the dark arts of, I don't know, cryptocurrency or something. And then...

Labgrown woman from... And then there has to be some sort of secret. Everyone has a secret. And it's like... I'm excited to meet Cassandra, but I'm really nervous to tell her about my dark secret. For five episodes, they mentioned the dark secret, and you never know what the dark secret is.

A lot of shrugging into the camera and being like, When she finds out, I don't know. It might ruin us. They're like 45 days into the 90. They're currently staying with one of their siblings and intend to move into an apartment. Or it's like, yeah, I really trust, I really trust Mark, but he keeps stealing all of my money. It's the funniest thing. I can't help but notice that every now and then, Mark, what a goofy is, will disappear overnight and come back retracting a set of fangs drinking blood.

But I guess that's just what the UK. Crane is like. Now, I've given Mark in the range of $20,000 to $45,000 over the, over the last 10 years that we've been dating without ever meeting. Guy loves a shop. I just think, you know, it's like Mark, he lives a troubled life. He always, these bad things always happen to him. Weirdest thing.

And then. From anonymous sources. From anonymous sources. I mean, but I trust him. I trust him. I trust him. And I mean, what is love if not a risk? Yeah.

I'm like, ease and affection. Well, it's an affection. And then, or it's like, there's this one girl who's like, dating in L.A. is horrible. And I'm like, okay. And it's like, this is how they lure you in with all the dating shows, right? And then they go, and that's why I went on an international dating app and found a man in Morocco. You're like, and then you're like, interesting. And then it's like, but what he doesn't know is that last year, I was engaged to a different man from Morocco.

What the fuck are you talking about? What is this show? Who are you? I mean, and I have to send him. The dating in LA problem. You're insane. I know. It is somebody who's like, yeah, I can actually, the thing is I can only date people whose feet are the other way around.

They always, they need a group of friends that is oftentimes when someone's taken advantage of or makes a bad decision. You're like, I wish they were surrounded by people who would tell them the truth. You got to check out this show. Everyone in this show is diluted and surrounded by normal people telling them they're being insane. They are drowning in support. It's crazy. Like, I'm like, I don't know what to say other than it becomes a, I become a victim blamer.

Yeah. Because I'm like, you're surrounded by people telling you the right thing to do. It's like, somehow you take the wrong. Everyone's saying drive on the right side of the road and you're like, I'm going to go left. I just in LA, that loves a crazy game. In LA, everyone's driving on the right side of the road. And I just like don't like to go. I like to go to the beat of my own drum.

I liquidated all of the funds that I put into the company that me and my brother took over from our father, four generations as well that has always had this cafe. We love it. It meant everything to us. Unfortunately, I did receive a DM from a woman whose username is different than her name and has a bunch of numbers after it. And he gave me the feedback of this might be a bot. So I attempted to stab him, went to jail for two years. We're no longer in contact. He does let me live with him. He's good in that way. But now he's telling me that Cassandra 8289-4-odd-2 could be deceiving me because when she turned up, she's a different race. I, it literally is like, um, the stories of how they meet is like, well, I was bored one day

and I reactivated my MySpace in there. And, um, I updated my profile picture. And then I got a DM from someone that said, Mama Cita, let me put a baby in you. Oh my God. And I responded and we just, it just, we took, I mean, and now we've been dating for nine years. Then learning from that is like, I should have been using MySpace. Well, no. And I'm just like, what?

What do you mean? You found him on Snapchat because you didn't know your post was public. And then before the 90 days adds even more bizarre friction because they will send them to, they'll go to Turkey to meet the guy. Yeah. And the guy will have a different face and be like, oh, yeah, it's the craziest thing. I keep buying laptops whenever you send me the money and Apple keeps forgetting to put the webcam in. It keeps falling off the laptop. So I couldn't do calls.

Right now I'm, well, I have to wear this balaclava. It's medical. Even when the person in Turkey is sketchy, they are also still surrounded by very normal people. This whole relationship feels like a bad idea. Having dinner with the visiting American and then in their native tongue saying, hey, she's clearly insane. Are we sure you want to do this? She keeps saying something about using you for fuel? Okay, all I'm hearing you guys say is that they're a match made in heaven and should be together.

Yes. Love means having a really bad time. It's like the guy's in Turkey and he has the most insane hairline you've ever seen. Which is funny because he can take it. That's great. Maybe they take it from him. And then that guy is talking to his friends and it's like, well, she's kind of close with this guy. I don't like it when my girl has male friendships.

And then they're like, Tomaz, you are unemployed and you've been lying to her about your lifestyle for 15 years. And your current wife. And your current wife. And it's like, but it's not about me. I'm talking about her. I'm concerned about her Instagram because she could at some point post bikini picks, which kind of worries me. Can I? She lives in Seattle.

But there's a chance that she goes to the beach at times. Also, they show photographs of people that they have videos of. It starts to read like a documentary where they died or did a scam. Like, if you watch like the Tinder swindler and you're like, these are the photos that the swindler sent me. They all look like 90-day fiance photos. And then my other thought that I have is like these people have been ruined by FaceTune because everyone's sending these photos that don't look like themselves back to one

another, and they're like, this is the hottest person alive. I can't believe Brad Pitt is talking to me. That's the thing. The one shared element, and you pointed this out, the one shared element on a show like Catfish is overwhelmingly one of the two parties, usually the Catfish er, does not have a lot of people kind of in their corner. It usually comes from a place of loneliness, and that's why they're doing it. And then on the other side, the Catfiche maybe has a sibling or something that has some skepticism, but they're just like, no, I need to see this true. This could be love. These situations, love is blind. They are getting married. They have to be engaged to start the visa process. And it's kind of a misnomer that visa, like, especially green cut marriages are

especially easy to do. They're extremely complicated. And in a lot of cases, are the wrong way to go. There are in quite a few cases easier ways to get residency for a lot of the people that end up going green card. But it's the one from movies. So the podcast, the whole show's AI. But if this was real, that's the path we can take. There's such a tendency, I think, to, in that show, find one of two parties to be secretly evil or just both insane, because otherwise it would have to be a show

about how exploitative the immigration system is and how, but they'll have one. Every season they have one couple that's perfectly matched because they could get ten couples that were perfectly matched, because there's plenty of people in love. And instead, they find someone who is...

both parties are hiding their face. Both parties are lying about their job. And both parties are unwilling to share anything important before like, you know, there was a guy. He was living with his brother and told her that he had a house. And it was like, it's okay. By the time she arrives, I will, I'll have secured something. I'll get an apartment. It was a fortnight before she was going.

And so they all move in with his brother. And the show has the audacity to even slightly frame it as kind of a gold digger. She's obsessed with him having a house. Okay. But he said he did. And so this is one where it's like it's going to get close to something that sounds offensive. But hopefully I can make the point clear. Oftentimes these two people do not speak the same language fluently.

They don't match up on a on a language that they both speak to the same level. Most people in the world are not bilingual. That's just a common thing. And the only reason this matters is that every time I see an argument between them, I am like so much as being lost in translation. There's nothing. They don't, they need like to be, and they, for whatever reason, never using Google Translate. How could you have gotten to know each other, especially of a text? Like half the time this girl is saying stuff to this guy and he's smiling and nodding and then she goes, do you know what that means?

And he's like, no, can you explain? And then I'm like, is this your whole relationship? And that's not like, that's not to say that you can't like find ways to communicate, but on top of all. of the other stuff, this is now a challenge as well. Communication in a relationship is already difficult. You know what I mean? I mean that, if anything is the dating is hard in LA. It's that.

That's the hard thing about dating. That I guess you get to like suspend if you just say like, well, any miscommunications could attack. That's why it's happening. It's not that we have no common interest. These two people were having an argument and like a lot of it was like things that he said, yes, that's good. don't worry about it type responses.

And then she's like calling him out for all of these inconsistencies. And I'm sitting there not sure if the inconsistencies because he's a bad actor. He genuinely didn't understand what he was agreeing to. I don't understand. And to be fair, a lot of these people probably don't know fucking shit about immigration. Yeah. I think it really is a, it's that awakening a lot of people have when they have one bad

TSA experience. And they go like, the TSA doesn't unconditionally treat everyone well? And then they're like, oh, right. Yeah, sometimes stuff is bad. The exact same thing in that show is people constantly being like, we had a review and the government seems, for some reason, they're just not happy with the fact that we live in a hammock that's attached to the boardwalk in Santa Monica.

We tied up like a cocoon and we sit in there together. And I claimed on the paperwork that that was a 2,500 square foot apartment. And for some reason, the U.S. government is taking umbrage with this. Jacob, I'm going to see if I can find my all-time favorite clip from that show and send it over. But have you seen the Blood-Born one? No. If we just look up Blood-Born-Born-B-I don't know anything about the show. I'm giving you my first impressions of watching for the first time.

All of these things, you can set aside, and they're magnified by the evil reality TV production on top of it. And featuring all of the worst tricks and shit that they do, that it's like, I really hope it doesn't sound like I'm saying, just because these people don't speak the same language fluently, that's like a problem. It's just that like I feel like they are selecting for relationships that will be dramatic to watch. And a lot of the time they're also kind of deliberately finding couples who might not have the financial means to do the move themselves. There's always a finance element.

And are they giving the money for an element of that? I think they're paying for the flight and the processing. I think that's the whole, they don't get like paid paid. Before the 90 days thing, I was looking at the rooms that they were living in. And I was like, did they put them in 90 day fiancé holding houses? Yeah. Because it looks like they own like a love is blind-esque apartment where there's nothing on the walls and everything's brand new and clean. I have to say the beginning of like the first few seasons of 90-day fiancee are very different than later episodes.

And I only know this. I would, I cannot watch this show because it makes me extremely depressed. I would never choose to watch this, by the way. It's like I was put in front of me. In the early years, a few friends were like, you have to watch his show. It's crazy. And then we would watch it. And it would be like this old white man from America is going to Thailand to pick up his fiance.

I mean, that particular relationship is like to see it happening in real time with, I mean, I think the guys in his late 40s, early 50s, particular guy and it is like it's almost cliche it's like the exact kind of predatory thing that you would make fun of uh like uh buying a harley in his 50s stepdad type dude um this by the way this is a this guy's a gamer this is the best friend of the husband or to be i i keep having things to say and i'm so sorry i also the there's a lots of shots that they do where i i kept pointing up the screen and going that shot is disrespectful and like in it's Very unflattered. You know what I mean?

Well, it felt like, like, there's this, like, um, like autistic dude in this, uh, new season. And because he was autistic, it made me think about love on the spectrum and how someone is depicted in love on the spectrum in a way that feels like it's done with white magic. It's so, it's so affectionate. And it's like, even love on the spectrum, I think about how all reality TV produces your demons.

And I'm like still trying to kind of square that. There's conflict. I mean, you know, I adore that show, but every now and then they'll send someone to speed dating. They get over-stimulated and have to walk out. And I'm like, you know this was going. What are we talking about? And then so, and then they keep doing these establishing shot because the show, there's like a hundred couples you're following. And so every time they show a couple, they need to remind you who they are and what their age is. And every show, they're like, yeah. And they have this guy do 10 different ones where he's just like, oh God. And every time, I'm like, these are actually awesome. And he is definitely being taken advantage of. And that stresses me out. But he is traveling with his mom and his stepdad. So, oh, my God. These things are still present.

Oh, my God. They, I just remembered. It's like, I was like, oh, they're traveling with him. That's sweet. And then he goes, yeah, so a few years back, I met a girl on a karaoke website. And I went to Thailand to visitor. And I was like, did he get robbed? And it's like I went with $2,000 in cash and she stole all my money.

And I'm like, I'm upset. This is what like racist, like xenophones make these stories like that up to highlight how evil people are. This show is like selection bias. The show. It's like it's like oops all plane crashes. Like if the news was like only plane crashes and you're like, oh my God, plane crashes are happening all the time. We got to get some white pilots. It feels like the show is telling me that the Philippines is full of scampus.

You gotta look out. And I'm like, I know that that's not true. So I'm like, that's why I'm just saying, stop doing that. Yeah. You're doing, you're doing racism, actually. And it, I don't know, so that's why it's put, it imbues me with an evil spirit. This, this particular clip will be fulfilling because this is the, I'll say it, this guy right here classes himself as a gamer. You're going to see why I don't think he's an authentic gamer.

He's the best friend. And also, he is wearing a hoodie that's the pattern of, like, uh, Japanese, Memorial or something. He looks like he's wearing a kimono from Demon Slayer. The combination of this hat, these glasses, this facial hair, if you told me this man was in limp biscuit in 1999, I'd be like, yeah, that's the lead singer.

This is the thing that the undercover boss wears so you don't know he owns Wendy's. What is this pattern called Chevron? Like, is that what these are? I think it's close to Chevron, but I don't think it's probably. It's cool. He's into his games.

Yeah. Really? I love to play games. My favorite game is Blodeborn. Have you ever played? Blow to Bourne? Yeah. No.

Never. What is that? You need to like build your character. It's incredible. He's getting game mob. Yeah. He's getting reverse gamogated. Except this is right.

He's a fake gamer, dude. He's a fake gamer. He's trying. Also, like, he didn't even try to, to adjust, like, understand. I gotta say, by the way. You just repeat it, blod-born. The show's interpretation of what does and does not need subtitling is pretty

fucking offensive. Oh my God. There was a thing that was happening where it would be, we had regular captions on, and then the regular captions would be like, uh, Joe speaks, and it would cover the subtitles for what the person was saying. Speaks nonsense. And then it felt, offensive where they would put stuff.

And I generally, like, I'm like, this person doesn't have a thick, hard to understand accent. It feels offensive that you're putting the subtitles on it because it's like just a brown guy. Yes. You know what I mean? Like it just feels like. I mean, it's like if they had the subtitles for all of peeky blinders. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's like, you know what I'm going to understand this freak. They sound so different. Like, um, blue to born. Bro, wake up. Oh my God, dude. Wake up. Dork souls. At least now he, he's probably.

Since it went viral, they were like, wow, this guy's a fake gamer. Oh shit, I just realized, dude. Because I bet he's on freaking Xbox. I played it actually. I played it in the original Japanese. He doesn't have PS4 like us. Oh, my God. Me, I'm astro projecting back a decade to, for some reason, still being invested in what console people on.

And now I'm cleansing it out of my soul. You know, one thing I did a lot in high school that now I'm glad I've grown out of it, but I did cause a lot of awkward moments is when someone's like, have you heard of X, Y, and Z? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. But I've never heard of it and I don't know it. For some reason, I was, I think I woke up from a dream.

I think I went from a dream this morning where I was like doing that. NEPIC? NEPIC? I don't know why. Absolutely. It's like, I'm chief. It becomes like an unsustainable thing.

And you know what? I think honestly something that maybe has conditioned to be not so much out of it, but like made me extra aware of it is having published conversations. Because if I ever did that, now I can't have a conflict, like contradict it. There's evidence that I lied. As someone who has, you know, as a child done the, oh, I know, I know Japanese actually. You know what I mean like that?

I can't do it right now. I can't do it right now because of my tongue hurts. From doing too much Japanese. From doing too much Japanese. But I do think that in a world where someone's like, have you seen Fight Club? And then you go, no. And then they go, what? You haven't seen the required media that you need to view?

You've never played Blodboard? You've never played Blodboard? I would, it would push me into a corner where I go, mm-hmm. No, for sure. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't want to be judged right now. Yeah.

Whatever reduces this conversation? Exactly, yeah. Which is like more tricky because that's someone else being annoying. They made the bad situation. And you know what I do? I react. Single karate chop to the arm. Discombobulated.

Smack him on the ears. I enter slow motion. I do a roundhouse cake. Two days later, arm falls off. Yeah. They beat me with the shit out of me the day before. Because it takes two days. They kill me.

So are you going to try to do a transition right now? Have you heard? And don't lie to me. Okay. Have you heard about SORA being? No. You haven't heard about it? No, I haven't.

This guy's stupid now. Ollie is shocked that you haven't heard. Did you hear about it? Sora, Sora, the AI video slop application is being sunsetted. It's being killed. It's being killed by our forefather, Sam Altman. You mean the platform that didn't launch yet? Yeah, I actually wasn't aware that it was available to the public.

Literally, I feel like. like it slipped out like a turd just it did slip out like a turd it's like oh there it goes and they got flushed um it's like when you uh uh i've never this is like stolen valor because i've never shit myself um but i do feel like the way people describe it is like they think they're they're like oh brother i'm a veteran and i welcome you to the cause yeah thank you well what i was going to say was yeah it's one of those it's one of those where um you're like oh There it goes. Oh,

oh no, I thought that was a fart. Oh, I thought that was a, I thought that was a beta and the main release came out. I thought that was an appealing product. Oh,

no. I shipped my fans. Yeah, I opened up store to see, uh, what would, what would I would see? And it was an account with a bunch of random characters as the name,

with zero engagement. And it's a, it's a, it's a, it's an AI video of Bruce Lee punching a puncher bag. Which he, you know, kind of did do.

Like, what a few clips of that. Except for here, the punchback breaks as if it's made of bark. Yeah, it doesn't like move also. It shatters. If you wanted to see some cool Bruce Lee clips,

watch a movie. Starring Bruce Lee. That's why we need this. It's unknown that because you think he was a very famous movie star. No films. And no clips of him. And he didn't exist. So with AI, we're able to create this random. What we imagine.

This is what the first man may have looked like. It's a reconfirmed. reconstructed from fossils. We've talked about this before whenever they reconstruct the voice. I'm in pain. Using ancient designs, we've reconstructed the very first stringed instrument. This is actually what Beethoven would have heard. Nice, her.

It keeps looking at me. So OpenAI shutting down SORA, and they're also shutting down their video APIs, and everyone's doing a victory lap as they should. they should. But I do... So some are treating this as the first domino of the AI bubble burst, which I hope it is. But... However. I do worry...

There's a lot of stuff we hope. I do worry that it's more of a business decision from like a liability standpoint. There was a billion dollar Disney deal that is now like dead. That I'm wondering, like, because if you have a billion dollars on the table, U.S. want to see that through. Right. Me personally, I'm probably going to go for it. Disney exited it.

What incredibly. They exited it, but it says after. Not the most photogenic guy, but that's an especially bad photo. That's like a royal who's, it's like Prince Albert. He's disgraced. He's trying to hide but can't. I think he just shit himself. If you look at like BBC and Holly Reporter have different opinions of who's responsible for ending the deal,

Disney exits deal. Open AI cancels Disney deal. Interesting. So it's kind of like who broke up with who. Yeah, literally. Did you, BBC says, Hollywood reporter is a toxic girlfriend. Actually, my friends told me they're crazy.

Maybe the deadline article, because I want to see this quote, the deal is dead. Literally it keeps jumping. It's like, winds down Disney deal. Open AI discontinue support winds down Disney deal. That's so funny. Open AI to end Disney deal.

I don't want to do this. No, really, it was, it was mutual. We both love each other and we're going to continue to support each other. We met at a cafe and she told me she didn't want to see me anymore. So I barely screamed. I shook the table, but I did not say anything. The deal is not moving forward. That seems a little obvious.

That's what happens when it's canceled. So, and then even though Disney, so Disney is much heralded billion dollar investment to Open AI, which was made in the, in the environment of which there were ongoing lawsuits related to copyright infringement. So I'm now wondering about those because our big criticism of this was like, oh, that's like a way to make these lawsuits disappear. And the point was that like what they were going to share in addition, sorry, in exchange for the equity, basically, they were giving them access to their production archive,

like their assets. Yeah. And the license to use some. of them. Funny enough, though, because I think look no further for evidence of the AI bubble to look at how deadline, which normally reports on like new projects in the film industry and stuff, reported on SORA not so long ago, it's so much so that it's in the related stories. Sora is coming.

Sora is here and Hollywood is sore. Oh, yeah, you got to get that out of here, boys. Even though Disney unveiled its investment in the IPO inclined Open AI in December, it appears no actual money change hands as the deal was never finalized. I hear. Who's saying this? Having said that, yeah, is this a person, is this text to speech argument? Oh, no, this is Steve. Just kidding. It's an op-ed, I guess. Oh, it's Dominic. Did Dominic say, like, iPhone record? And then, like, that's his sent for my iPad. Having said that, it looks dicey that the AI startup will continue to have access to 250 Disney characters for which they were set to pay the Burbank-based media giant.

Insane way to describe Disney, by the way. The Burbank-based little startup company. Right now, as the increasingly consumer-facing OpenAI looks to move to a mega app, Sora is still functioning, and with the Disney characters available, as you can see in this Wall Street-based Captain America short, I just created on Sora. Very funny. It appears to be a clip from Scrubs.

That was an ad. Ad for Scrubs. I imagine that it's just that. It's like ad plane before. Yeah, I guess so. If we X out of that ad? No, I think The fuck?

What the hell? What if it? All right, guys. That's not our fault. That's not our fault. The Big Box injection late last year from Disney looked to reset the IP battle between artificial intelligence and Hollywood

by permitting iconic characters from Frozen Star Wars and the Marvel multiverse to be used on the generative AI video app. The three-year deal with Open AI was supposed to make the leap to hyperspace this spring. Iger and other Disney brass boasted on February earnings call. February is so recently. I know.

Today that all went, but that's just a testament to how quickly this stuff moves. Yeah. Today, that all went in the digital trash. All right, dude. This guy's feeling himself a little bit. When opening I said it was pulling. That's like something you say in the dot-com boom. The digital trash.

The digital trash. The e-trash. The e-trash. Today, that all went in the digital trash when opening I said it was pulling the pole on Sora. We're saying goodbye to Sora. The company declared online. You could just say tweeted. To everyone who created, okay, I don't care about this.

Hear ye, hear ye. Can we scroll that? I want to see, is there, they give a rationale. I do wonder, we said this in our SORA episode back, I don't even know how far back a month ago. Jacob, if you could pop over to another article and see if there's any more context, but if not, we'll just speculate just like everyone else. I do wonder, like.

Maybe Bloomberg. Walking away from a billion dollars. Like Disney was paying Open AI a billion dollars, right? They were like infusing basically because Open AIs knew, was it Open AI that's seeking to raise 10 billion at a 730 billion valuation? Oh my God. Or was that anthropic? So they just secured an extra 10 billion in record funding round at a 730 billion pre-money

valuation. Open A. I did? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Open AI has raised north of $120 billion, by the way. And you can see it on the page. Just to speak to like how much money they're burning and also how big this hype cycle is for like, you know, it's like we won't know if it's a bubble for sure until the, until we have a little bit of more time to zoom out.

And the money's fake at this scale. I mean, this is like, this is like, this is like. This is just, it's Facebook French. Exactly. And we said in our Saura video, like, how could they make money off? Like, it didn't seem like it's something that would easily make them money. It's a consumer-focused product, but one that doesn't hide the fact that it might be artificial. So the way that they make money is through their paid, like the paid models,

and then they were considering adding ads and stuff. But they're in the user acquisition stage because if they can get a billion users, and they have a lot of users, then it's kind of like how Facebook's value. You know it's like wasn't really making money When they first blew up but people know that it's a sticky app with like hundreds of millions of users and that means something It means you can make money later That being said it is very much like the investors are all like Gigantic players who don't want to miss the rocket ship

It's like soft bank who's involved with everything And And in other other giant partners. I just didn't see the stickiness of SORA. No, SORA is like, I'm talking about Open AI as a whole. Sora is a rounding error, in my opinion. It's like, it's a, it's a marketing arm.

It's a quibby. It's all the keywords are all there. It's, well, yeah, scrolling, TikTok, AI, content user. If, if, if it just made it. Sora wasn't sticky and I think that's why it died. But if it was, then you would basically just see a TikTok model rise out. of it where it's just like you just get ads in the middle of your stuff. It feels like if like somebody saw the launch of the MacBook, I mean, wow, that's great.

Okay, so what's a MacBook? It's metal. So we'll just get a chunk of metal. It's got a screen, so we'll cover it in broken glass. We, it folds, so we'll cut it in half. And then we'll sell it for two grand. You're using it. You're like, I'm done.

Like, I don't want to be on here anymore. It does none of the things I like. It's just all of the keywords. So basically like, we might not know the reason. for this, which is usually, it's usually money. As we focus and compute demand grows, the Sora Research Team communities focus on world simulation research to advance robotics that will help solve real world physical tasks.

Interesting. So that sounds fake. It sounds like they're just saying something really positive so that they don't have to say, we didn't think it was going to make us the money that we wanted to make. I realized that my product was worthless. So it actually wasn't, bad because now I'm going to feed the homeless.

Because AI video generators are going to continue to exist. It's funny that people were like, oh, the AI fruit videos are going to go away because Sora's dying. It's like those weren't generated with Sora. The, and then OpenAI had a video making software that I think they're also sunsetting with their AI. So that could have been, I don't know what specifically was used to generate the AI fruit videos, but there's a billion of these now.

who knows, but it is very expensive and we know that Open AI burns a lot of cash. Not to mention other resources. And they've got their hands in a bunch of, it burns a lot of cash, water, energy. But the thing is, they've got their, they've got a lot of things out. They have their fingers in many pies. Pies, yeah. They have their fingers in many pies. They got a lot of plates in their pies.

They're, they're sticking their thumbs and lots of stews. They talk about concerns about, they talk about generating videos are real people. I mean, famously, when we first opened Sora, we saw like Martin Luther King videos. Yes. And then the family of Martin Luther King Jr. had to, Sora had to put out a statement that they've like respectfully stopped generating Martin Luther King videos and then are going to try to come up with a way to respectfully do it in the future or something like that. It was something like that. Make sure that he always looks, we're going to yastify him. He has looked sexy. Yeah, we're going to get him some DSLs. Some other ideas he can have other than dreams.

Yeah, this guy's always banging on him at the same. shit. He came up with an LLM in this. And then also I think that there was a fetish content. Oh, yeah. I saw like an article about this. Yeah. Businesses and Sarah might have a pervert problem on its hands.

That also could be a reason for them to kind of shut it down. Especially Disney. Yeah, Disney's relationship. Yeah, I do. It's interesting because I'm, I feel like the money rules all. And I, we haven't seen a litig. like a litigation issue large enough to stop them from doing anything. Because even when it's stealing from Studio Ghibli, even when it's stealing from Disney or whatever,

it hasn't stopped them. So I have to- Disney essentially was just like, let's play ball. Yeah. Yeah, here's some pocket change. I've heard that this thing's important on an email thread. And then they probably spoke to them and made actual practical steps and went, oh, these guys are fucking morons.

And there's no application for us. This is from October. Which, and it's Katie, I want to make sure I know how to say her last name because I follow her. She's a journalist. I want to say it's Nautopoulos, but, oh, it is Netopoulos. Katie Nautopoulos, she's saying that people were generating these fetish content of her. Of what? Of me and other real women using Sora too.

And it's like, and it's like the feeder fetish stuff and the pregnancy stuff. Yeah, so this sucks, obviously. Yeah, not being able to control the way that people are using your likeness is obviously an ick. I do actually have some friends who have said they've stopped putting images of themselves online. Yeah. And it's just because, you know, when we all first got Instagram accounts, you know, you're putting everything online. You're like, oh, look at, I'm walking home. Here's my meal, whatever.

And then... And the skepticism was like, what if someone steals this? It's not like... Yeah. Because they can't do anything with it. Yeah. Like a lot of them creators and public figures are just people with the following. Inevitably have someone making like a deep fake porn of them

or making subredits that try to digitally remove their clothes and stuff like that. It's extremely gross. I totally understand why someone would want to remove... like it's so often driven we talked about it before when the groc shit was happening yeah well which i'm sure it still is but when it was popping off about that so much of this when it's online and it's so obviously driven by misogyny and active hatred towards anyone i was going to say anyone feminine presenting but it's really anyone not cis het dude presenting there is a it's so generated by hate that the sexual element is almost like not a part of

Like it's like, it's like, I'm making this because I can print it out and then I have a hot picture. It's like, look what I did to you. Right. I have acquired you via grok. But even that, it's like I was talking to somebody who's like not a public figure, private citizen, private Instagram. And they said that someone sent them a thing on Reddit that was like someone doing like a blank tribute to them. And it's like it's just for like. Yeah, that's the thing.

And that's a thing. And those videos are like a, because like if you go like on, they're like Reddits for this and stuff. And it's, by the way, it should be way easier to take down Reddit. It is insanely difficult. I mean, I remember the first time I ever like heard. It was like the first controversy. I was a Reddeter pretty much exclusively, embarrassingly in R slash atheism.

Like that was, I was poning, fictional conversations that I would never interface with because not only was I not religious, but not what I knew was. So what this, I was railing against nothing. But I, the first time I ever saw a controversy, because R slash jail bait got banned. They were like, the fact that it existed at all for an extended period of time is like, we, shouldn't. Of course it got banned.

It's not like, it's the only word you could use that isn't, like, for people that go to jail. Oh, wait, jail. I didn't. That was not the... Oh, a capital markets analyst. This is where you have to listen to the like hyper-capitalist

because they, this is their super bowl. They're the poet. You're not overly surprised by Open AI's decision to shut down sore given Dowlands engagement have waned

and there's clearly a very attractive enterprise opportunity to pursue right now as evidenced by the success of Open AI's codex and Anthropics Claude Code. And so yeah,

so it's like, Is that where the resources are going? Is that? Because again, I think you talked about it before. It's like that may be the actually main market mover value add on workflows and stuff is in like coding. You're talking about it with the intelligence thing. It's because like the first thing that AI is actually affected job-wise is the people building the tools. Yeah.

For consumer, for consumer internet investors, we would view this, which is us. We invest. We would view this as one more sign that businesses still have moats that are not easily overcome across verticals like social video music and marketplace. Basically, it's like hard to break in. And then there's some charts that basically just show the monthly active users for for Sora waning and they're not even that high to begin with and the monthly downloads. And again, all it was was like a little, it's like a fidget spender of an app.

You know, it like doesn't really do anything. And... Quibby's premise was stronger. Oh, OpenAI's new valuation is $840 billion, by the way. I mean, and you can see why. You can see why. So this is why when I saw this news, I didn't think, hell yeah, the bubble's bursting. It's because it seems like Open AI sent a bunch of different arms out into the world to see what would stick.

Yeah, absolutely. And now they're just cutting off the arms that aren't working. And that's always how this was going to work. You know what I mean? And so I don't, like, people are celebrating and I fear it's prudature. Oh, for sure. You know? It is premature.

You know, almost like a bit of, not, and I'm not saying that this is a act, like literally the plan, but it's, it's functioning a little bit like a distraction and a false victory. Exactly. You fucking goddess guys. Now you don't need to scrutinize us anymore. You won this. It's like when the Fruit Love Island account got banned and everyone's like, yay, it got banned. And then I started working out my video.

And boom, there it was again. Because it probably got banned for some weird content guideline stuff. Because TikTok bans real accounts, mining their own business all the time. I do want to say, though, I want to point out a word that they use here. The Sam Almond led company reportedly scored another $10 billion in investment, led by top names like Andreessen Horowitz, who we spoke about last week. OpenAI raised a $110 billion, raised a $110 billion tranche. Oh my Javis's 2026 words

Tranch I'm pretty sure they said that because you are trying to make trunch a thing I'm the trunch guy They heard you say tronch I'm dropping a tronch of propaganda about why you should use tronch

The trunchler I'm the tronchler Jarvis while talking leans in raises his eyebrows and says Tronch Just like that I got I forgot I should announce this publicly

I have a 2026 mission It's a grassroots campaign that I've started a couple months ago that I'm now going to bring to the public and you play Magic the Gathering no longer say plus one plus one counters. We call it a wanna. A wanner.

If you're talking about a different counter, they'll be fucking pedantic. Then you can say a poison counter. But you know that's not what you're talking about. You're talking about a plus one plus one. We call it a wanna. Five oners. There you go. Three oners. Put a oneer. Every beginning of every combo.

I do like that because like it's weird that just saying like a plus one counter which implies because like only magic cards from like the early 90s have like plus one minus one counters and shit like that. So plus one tends to imply symmetrical

plus one plus one but it doesn't sound good to say. Now it's back. Everything's asymmetrical again with the blight stuff. Nightmare. I want a campaign. Let me think of a campaign to start. You should do Greek supremacy. Well my campaign is for everyone who enjoys fruit love island

to be rounded up. Stop it. To be rounded up and put on an island to record more fruit love island for me because I love it. No, I'm just kidding. I ate it. It's bad.

Now, this is all new to me. You, Chad,'s living in the future. We are living in the future. Have a Jarvis Johnson Gold video to consume I'm like fruit. I, the past beta. You're a pastor bater? I'm a pasta beta.

I love fetichini, spaghetti. Yeah. You love fetishini content? Fettuccini content. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you viewers are like,

I want the deep dive. I want the full... The full island. I want to go whole island. 25 minutes on fruit, Love Island. Then get lost. Go pause. This.

Go over to Jarvis Johnson Gold. Oh, yeah. You can do it, you can watch it after. And then come back here. Well, okay, so here's the thing. This is actually a good appertief to that video now that I think about it. That could be your word for the year. I was going to say, is that your word for the year?

Apertief. That's just French. It was good. Yeah. Yeah, cool. So it's trunch. Like, is it? I don't know.

So is it? Probably. It's spelled like, it's spelled like T-R-A-N-C-N-C-E. C-H-E, which seems French, but romance. Romance. So, um, I got a text from a friend that was like, have you seen, I sometimes get texts from my friends. I see.

And they're usually about something horrible. Oh, not nice. Not that's happened to them, but something horrible that's going on online. Like for example, for example, I got a text. It's like getting a mercenary contract. Yeah. I need you to kill this. Kind of.

Yeah. It's an agent 47. You're a Sicario for content. I did get a text that said, are you following the Skid Row Content House? That's like I need to turn over that stone at a later time. I looked into that.

Have you seen this disease? Yeah, it's rough. So, so I got a text that was like, have you seen the AI fruit cheating videos? And then you turned to me, you said, go to text. I said, go a text. Welcome back to them.

Island, USA. I, um... We're making fun of them. I actually ignored it. They said those words to me and my eyes glazed over. So I came back to this with the Fruit Love Island stuff and realized that it was the progenitor of this content. I, okay, so there's two things I want to say.

One, I think that this content is genuinely legitimately popular. And that should be a concern. And I think that some folks are... it's so easy to dismiss as this is clearly bodied content. And I was seeing a lot of those takes. And I regret to inform you that I've seen various warm-blooded individuals posting and enjoying this content. Took their temperature, took their pulse, took their pulse, went to Nigeria or whatever

to verify they existed. I got it. Yeah, because guess what, man. People didn't watch Elsa Spider-Man videos because of the authentic filmmaking. It's the new Elsa Spider-Man. It's the cocoa melon of a new era. No one's like, Cocoa-Mellon's not a real guy. I'm not going to watch this.

It's like a graduated, and I use that word very loosely, cocoa melon. Like, because it feels... An honorary doc. It's like if the brain smootenings starts with cocoa melon, it finishes with AI fruit cheating videos. That's the first... Jacob, you'll know this.

You're a crafty man. It's the roughest grain when you're sending something. starts with cocoa melon. And then once you get here, this is just like, it's like a lathe. Yeah, it's like when you're getting a fade

and they have to keep switching, switching the blades. This is the, yeah, this is a straight razor right here. So this is just like a thing that a lot of people responded to with,

oh, this is clearly bodded because this had like 400,000 likes in an hour. Oh, she's beautiful. But can we just go on TikTok and we haven't rehearsed this

or pre like planned these clips? Normally we do rehearse sad boys completely. Yeah. Chat GBT. Word. But because there's also allegedly the creator

of Fruit Love Island is allegedly crashing out and allegedly saying horrible stuff. But I don't have confirmation that it's the real creator of the account because so many of the like if you just look at these names

like AI Fruit, AI Fruit Vids 2, someone somewhere. Like you can just make this. Where would there be a bono-no, right? Right. Let's look at that eggplant strawberry one. Or maybe one with more likes. Or the strawberry banana one on the far right.

Yeah, strawberry banana one. So I will say, and this is like not a joke, but it sounds like one, content warning for domestic violence amongst fictional fruit. And maybe various types of assault. Yeah, because I don't know what's going to happen in these videos, but oftentimes, Yeah, we have to, let's watch that one. It's gonna be crazy. My husband is at home with our kids waiting for me.

I can't do then. You want this promotion or what? I love you, my wife. You're so loyal and will be mine forever. I love you too. I will always be yours. Okay, just this one time. Now that's a good strawberry.

Oh my God, you. She's pregnant. That's actually crazy. This is evil. It's evil. We are having another... Yes, I'm going to have a third little scrow with my wife. I'm so excited.

A third what? You hear that, kids? We are gonna be a bigger... Wait, pose for a second. Decent interpretation of what the mixed race baby of the strawberry and a cucumber would be. They kind of just striped down the center, which yeah, I guess. So a lot of these videos, and yes, I have watched a lot of them, do involve. involve cucumbers and bananas are boys,

strawberries and melons are girls. It's also like animated story-coded. It is animated story-coded. But it's even worse. Like, this is the platonic ideal of when I was generating, like when I used GPT2 in like 2018 to generate a like my story animated script. Yeah. This is like what I thought it would be able to.

generate. Yeah, to reach that level of like demonic. And I am almost certain that you could, with existing publicly available AI tools, vibe code, a TikTok account factory that just generates TikTok accounts when you need them and when they get banned, that also generates this content. Yeah. And then siphons like views, basically. And I don't know if it's actually profitable, but it is seeking profit.

But like, because the crazy thing about the Love Island thing is it's actually getting wild views. But I don't know how that translates to money on TikTok because TikTok views are different. But I guess with a, I guess they're almost doing the prospecting, right? They've got the mines running. No, it is absolutely a mining operation. It's instead of mining Bitcoin, instead of mining gold, you are content mining for viral nuggets. Yes. Yeah.

It's like fracking. Like it's like the most aggressive, it's explosive. Yeah, most dangerous to the environment. I also think we're not exactly sure why the account keeps getting banned and the content keeps getting taken down. But I would assume there's two major reasons. One, that it is straight up ripping off Love Island. And I don't know TikTok's copyright rules,

but like there's a lot of Love Island music and storylines and what. whatever. Yeah. And then also they're extremely violent and sexual. Yeah, I think it's closer to that because all the love island stuff could be considered parody because if they were, and I hate to do this, but like for TikTok's term, specifically, if it were a human doing it, all the same things, it would be considered parody, even if it was shitty. So I'm like, I have to imagine it. It's, it's the sexualization and the, um, the violence. I have to, I really do think it's mostly the violence if I had to guess. The violence is a lot on there. So it's probably, more than what you would normally see in a tick up. I would also guess that like the velocity of people watching these and the kind of consumer,

it's so like, oh, this has come across my desk, what the fuck? It's like it's getting pushed to such a broad cohort of people to just kind of test the waters that I'm sure just one in every 50 gets a bunch of user reports. That's just happens to be one in every thousand. Oh, also it's getting, oh, that's a great point that I forgot to mention. It's also getting mass reported. Yes, that would be. And then it's like you can't stem the flow.

It's getting onto the boat more than you can bail it out. Exactly. Yeah. It's just that it's spreading out instead of all going to the same person, which is maybe good. Like I do feel like I don't like brigading on principle. This is the one time where I'm like ethically not the most against it because it's maybe it's just because it's all AI generating. slop that's like smoothening our brains.

And it's like also look man there's no no way around it. This is getting everything visually coded about this is for children. Yep. The content is very explicitly not even for most adults. No, not even close. And is like I'm not going to make some kind of moral stance about what can and cannot be in fiction because that's not my interest. I think it's disingenuine to say that like that's the hey you should be allowed to publish whatever. It's like okay, sure.

Let's say that no matter the content of a movie let's say funny games when it comes out gets shown to every kindergarten or in America. That's the rule.

When a movie comes out, you have to show it to everyone. Then I'm going to maybe make an argument for how censorship should or should not work. This is like literally I'm just throwing a copy of funny games into the window of a kindergarten. Just being like, figure it out.

Throughout most of my life, I haven't felt that the like content that you could could consume online, and I'm talking mostly early, like not modern times, but like most of the content you could consume online wasn't going to smooth your brain more so than the content you could watch offline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we've reached this era of like generative slop that like, and we're starting to see studies

about the effect that AI is having on people's ability to critically think and to conceive of certain like concepts and stuff that I, wonder if we are actively hindering, especially for young people, their intellectual development. Yeah. This is weird. Because when I see something, or even hear the beginnings of those kind of discussions, I go like, well, I remember when people said the video games went on. I remember when people said that TV is slopped, but movies have artistic value.

And my instinct is to go to like, hey, we should welcome new things and explore them. I would say the exploring's done. We explored and it's just, it's full of person. The thing is with all of those things is that they could be considered art. Yes. And with intention more so. And not all things are created equal, not like they're slop games of the past, you know. But, uh, but this is like the, the absolute extreme of nothing.

Yes. From, from base principles. It is, it is, it is like baby colors and sounds. for no enrichment whatsoever. With a seasoning of hate. Like a light dusting of misery. I do think like we've gotten to a point in culture. And you could say this about food.

You could say this about a lot of stuff. Where we have like found the thing that just keeps people consuming. Yes. And that is what the algorithms have wanted for so long. Exactly. Like that is what I'm doing when I'm publishing a video. I am a cog in the machine of continued consumption. And I can't deny that.

It's like I feel that the stuff that I make while being entertaining is also enriching. You're mitigating that bullshit. It allows me to sleep at night. There's a more sinister, more cynical version of what you make that would be quicker and easier and more bullshit. it, but the cost would be your soul. Your spirit would be driven. It is, it is engineered for, and this is like we had a genetic algorithm,

like generate content that to survive, all it has to do is keep your attention. And then we mass tested it on millions and millions and millions of people and the winners that continue to meet those engagement thresholds were the ones that thrived. And now... On the bodies of thousands and thousands of attempts we didn't see.

It feels like, imagine if we were instead looking at the inside of a lava lamp with like a bunch of non-verbal sounds. And that is the like... That's ideal. That's ideal. That's the ideal. It's welcome to the content cube.

And in the content cube can now play like, various, you swipe and it's a different pattern of the lava lamp. And it makes a different like hum. You know what I mean? And like the end. And then you get that. That is the amount of enrichment you're getting. And even that like there's probably some frequencies that can be beneficial to your.

Yeah. There's something that could at least maybe like make you sleep better. I do that. Look at that bottom right comment. I low key feel bad for. Yeah. That's the crazy part. That's the crazy part.

Delivery bots with eyes. Like I, because seeing. you haven't, you know how people say you haven't lived? You haven't died. You haven't died until you've seen people make fancams of the Love Island, fruit Love Island people. And that was truly a moment where I realized,

like I was seeing memes that are like, Charita, you will always be famous. She's a cherry-headed. She has a cherry for a head. Let's watch another one of these. And then we can, I can, we can show Jordan a little Fruit Love Island.

Let's watch this. What did you search for, Jacob, real quick? fruit cheating Oh that's exactly what I The lemon That one right Let's try that one Baby I forgot to tell you

My colleague James and I have a business trip plan I'll be away for three days A business trip But you already had a business trip two weeks ago This voice Like I've seen I made a video a while back About how people generate AI channels

They have like a pipeline Essentially of different tools that they're using And you know something for the script Something for the Sometimes it's something for the images and then something to animate those images, something to make the mouth match the words. And you know that they're doing this

and they're doing it in the cheapest way possible because there are the types of glitches that you run into will be like the wrong voice says something. Right. And it's like it still matches. It still matches, yeah. Hey, who the hell do they have in their mantle piece?

That's just human beings. They have phone photos of human. They can't have human friends. I do. They eat those. That is funny. I also like the photo of them wearing the clothes they're wearing now. That's like a 30 rock joke.

Mino, stop. Oh my, wait, wait, go back to that for a second. I don't even know if we can show it. What that was. No, stop. My husband is waiting for me. Dude, look at, let him. Yeah, she's got on her face.

Oh. Those are different characters, was it? And that's, that's Tong Tong So, or whatever. That's, no. But anyway, we can't show that on the pod. But I just wanted to, I was going to say, maybe on nights, We can, maybe this could be a Knights thing. Yeah.

Okay, yeah. So get this away from us, Jacob. Thank you. Okay, so Jacob accidentally hit the down arrow and we watched one of the most disturbing. Well, we watched two seconds of one of the most disturbing for AI videos I've ever seen. And there was not even in the part we saw. Nothing triggering. Just disgusting.

Just disgusting. And so that is something that on our Patreon podcast, Sabboys, Nights, we may, We will look a little bit, but no promises as to what we can stomach at the heinous side of this disgusting trend. Yes. So no promises on how much we do that, but we at least will watch that one, or at least some of it. And you're going to hear. To the point our stomachs can handle. And we will be saying bad words and dirty stuff.

It's in us of W for sure. We might scream. We might scream for ice cream. Ooh, I have ice cream in the freezer. I was screaming Oh my God, he's screaming silently You know what's crazy? Before we've been interacting this, when we were

Oh my God We'll also talk about, we watched Some of Melania, the documentary When I went over to Jordan's this weekend As I watch it most nights Yeah, it's before Jordan goes to bed It's kind of his AI fruit cheating video routine I was doing prayer by the end of my bed

But we ate pizza And then Peep's ordered ice cream And we got ice cream and I left in your freezer some ooey-gooey brownie from Salt and Straw and then I know, Jacob, it's my favorite. That's my favorite too.

And we can talk about this later, but what is in those brownies? I don't know, man. It's crazy. They won't give the secret away. Okay, but anyway, so I myself got some more of it and I have some of my freezer now and I want that shit bad.

My crazy ass eating a pint of sorbet. As though I were the queen herself. You were eating, you were eating the shit out of that sorbet. I was playing Pocopia, showing you guys age of attraction. I was a man of leisure. This sounds like a wild name. It was a wild time with pals.

Not recorded. I like to brag when I don't record my interactions with friends. I thought a waste because no revenue. If anything, we had to spend money on it. Oh my God, it's so expensive. Okay. So we'll watch this. I'll show Jordan a little bit of Fruit Love Island.

Then we're up and head tonight. Is she a lemon or a pear? She's a lemon and she doesn't have ears, but her earrings are just shoved into her side of her. But she has pet. It's like they've been pinned on like Mr. Potato Head. Okay. I guess Mr. Potato Head was the start of this all.

Yeah, this is on him, the awakening. I forgot to tell you, my colleague James and I have a business trip planned. I'll be away for three days. A business trip? Into the camera. But you already had a business trip two weeks ago? I know, honey, but I can't say no to my boss. I'm planning to ask him for a promotion soon.

Is it constantly swiping because of the time limit on Sora Clips? It does appear that that's what's happening here. I don't usually see this. I don't usually see that. So they must be whatever they're using to generate this has a time limit. It could be sore. It could be whatever. And they,

it's almost definitely that. I'm wondering if every clip is exactly or just below five seconds. 100% or I mean, I think, I think so. Oh yeah. She, she asked,

oh, his other leg is on the bed, but it's in the bed. It's in the bed. He's packing so many shirts. Oh yeah. So she's upset that he's packing t-shirts for a work trip, but it's like,

have you ever gone to the gym? Yeah. Have you ever been in a hot? I don't wear. suits at all times. Or a conference room. I haven't. Babe.

But it doesn't sound good. Okay. They have another photo of them wearing exactly the same clothes as they were wearing at dinner. So you remember. Can you bring me my phone charger? Bye, honey. Love you. Head turned all the way around.

What's up? Oh my God. Was he reversing all the way? Yeah. And then the car became the back of a car. Look at how it's the front and the back of the car simultaneously. They should design cars to be the both sides of the back so that everyone knows you're breaking. Yeah.

So anyway, this is the type of shit they're trying to keep from us by canceling SORA. They don't want us to have this beautiful, beautiful work. Such a funny image. What happened? I need to know. It's like a testament to animation versus comics. Like this looks like I guys just driving down the road. I have talked to people who watch these, what multiple of these.

And they've described it to me as like they know it's bad. and they can't stop watching. And then it makes me feel like how people talked about TikTok when it first started. They're like, it's just, I don't know what they put in the algorithm. Like, I feel like I don't have a mutation that, like, keeps me a, TikTok specifically. I can't, I watch videos about top five moments in Survivor. Yes, TikTok. I watch that for hours.

TikTok bobs off me the same way that, like, Timo does. Where there's, like, there's such friction and noise to the extent where it, It overstimulates me that I guess some people can just tank. If I go on TikTok, it's like, it's like tinnitus. I'm just like, oh, my God. I do think when I first got on TikTok, I would scroll and then all of a sudden be like, oh, my God, what happened to the last hour? But it very quickly made me feel bad.

It's kind of, I kind of actually think of it because this is just how my brain works, as like, you have a whole box of cheeses. and you're not really thinking about it and you're just kind of putting cheese its in your mouth. All of a sudden the whole box is gone and you feel awful. Yeah. And then next time I'm-

This was impossible to stop. I'm not gonna eat the whole box because I have that memory of feeling awful. But that being said, a year or three months down the line or whatever, maybe I'll eat the whole box. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like to per- because now I'm thinking about it,

it's like if on the rare occasion I do get, I slip into bravefully watching Instagram reels, then I can lose a good amount of time. But I think it's the same rule of thumb that I like a bar, I like a pub, I hate the club. TikTok is the club. It's so fucking loud.

Yeah, yeah. No, I like, thank you, Jacob, for acknowledging that. I like a bar. I like a pub. I hate the club. I hate the club. It's because you're dropping the hardest club bangers of all time. Nerd, like big loser rapper.

I don't like the club. I'm scared. I like to... It's like a little dinky. Yeah, that's true. Noted centrist, little dicky. Oh, really? Okay, I think I got everything I needed.

Vegetables on this side. Cookies on this side. So she knows what's in the cup. Yeah. Oh, hi, citrusi. How are you doing? James. Ooh, he's drinking orange juice.

You can't do that. The orange man's drinking himself. So that's a huge part of Fruit, Love Island. Anastasia and I share a knowing look. Yeah, because in Fruit Love Island, they're always eating fruit. They're always eating fruit. And citrusy, not the most offensive fruit name I've heard, but pretty bad.

They're shopping amongst humans, I will point out. Ew. Well, there's a lot of humans in the favoritifery aisle, I think. Fernerner. That just says favorisie. I do like, does the flower say floor? Yeah. Yeah, it says floor.

Cookies, vegetable. Rage Petisserie And we're in the Favorise Isle Which appears to be Chocolate milk You can't drink that in the store By the way

You gotta pay for it It is like Unless he brought it I guess What's the rule on that For real? Because when I was a kid Like I would sometimes

Go to Grocer with people And they like start eating A bag of chips in the store And I'm like What are you doing? And then they'd be like Well as long as I pay for it It's fine

That feels like And I'm like it feels like Until you pay for it You're borrowing it I am a like I know so many people that, you know, exaggerate or claim false dependence on their taxes. And they're like, no one ever checks. You just kind of get away with it.

I'm like, yeah, but if someone checks me, I get deported. You get to do it. You might get a little trouble, pay extra. I feel the same about like, I was such an anxious kid that the idea of eating it in the store and then paying later. I'm like, but what if I go to jail before I get to the counter? That's what I feel. And that's like, I don't want to come off like a boomer. I guess because I just always was that way as well as a kid.

It's like internalized rule followers syndrome. You know what? Fucking go for it. Like, I don't mind it at all. I guess. I just don't know if the cowlid. It just depends on which store you go to and who's working and how they feel about it.

I'm used to like, I have the internalized like when people follow you in a store because you're like a young black kid. And I'm like, well, I don't want to give them another reason to think I'm doing a crime. I don't want them to be right. Yeah. Especially. Yeah. It's, you know, what it feels like a little bit is like,

I know it's like a classic dad thing I've always heard is to say that it's illegal to have the interior light in a car on. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Like ever. Every time I've turned that on, I've been like, I got to turn this off. Or else I'm doing something bad. It's not even driving, just sat in the car.

No, fuck. I do think there was something about, and look, maybe I'm, wrong. Like an old wives tale. But old lights in cars like in the 90s or whatever I do think if they were on at night while you're driving

you all of a sudden can't see out the window like it's causing like a glare It was like a brazier right It was like a lit torch Yeah yeah yeah you had to Well you had to have one of the Olympic runners Light the torch Thank you

In the top of your car Or maybe was the glass has changed or whatever but like I do remember these frosted grass turning on the light turning on the dome light and my dad flipping out yeah I remember that too

I did that once as a kid and I got flipped out on and I was like whoa you pop the gas dude I'm trying to find the candy that I just dropped in my life I do think there is a I think a young boomer

forgotten generation whatever dude who is like there's like an internal conflict in the brain of like, fuck, I don't do anything, but I'm in charge of stuff. I don't get it. I'm like supposedly privileged, but I don't feel good. I don't have control. What the hell is going on? Everyone keeps telling me I'm not

allowed to cut specific races off in traffic. I don't get it. And they're like, thermostat over 72. That's ethically wrong. Yeah. That's, you got to, when you get a soda out of the fridge, replenish it with a new one. It's like, these are all reasonable things, but they're not principles. Yeah, it's not the law.

It's also similar, I think, in vibe to the fact that nowadays, someone our age who has a kid, they think, okay, I need to have a car where it's like, I'm going to give my kid Cheerios and stuff. They're going to spill a few. And Cheerio dust is going to be in my car. And I just have to accept that, right? But when, but like when I was younger, my dad was like, no food in the car. And it's like, I'm a little kid. I'm really hungry and you're not letting me

eat food right now because you don't want your car to get a little dirty yeah my kid wants to eat in the car I'm pulling over and I'm going to the destination leaving them there to finish the meal I'm not getting out of my car is smelling McDonald's you can eat McDonald's

but you have to do it by the road on the shoulder on the hot pavement I'm yeah okay let's I'm entranced and I need to watch this we need to see what happens Martin Scorsesee who why are you not at the airport

with my husband for your business trip Even he has one friend. Why is he not answering? Baby. He didn't even call me since he got there. Who am I speaking to? So your wife really thinks that every time you go out of town, you're on a business trip, she's so dumb. A lot of piggies.

A lot of toes in these. Also, I just want to point, this is a common occurrence. He has a little apple growing out of his head. But then I also want to point out that they always have a, um, the AI is good at, it's good at approximations. of reality, but you notice it can't do physics, things are backwards. It's all meant to like look about right. And if you... Like, while moving your head back and forth kind of thing?

But there's no like... When people are like, Hollywood's dead because I used this... This program to make this movie in two hours. Look how hard it is to make the models match. Back up to the previous thing. Yeah. Here his body is the color of the inside of an apple. And if you go to this next clip...

And he has one leaf. And no two months. And now he's got a... like flowery head of things. He's got an apple tumor growing out of his forehead. I gotta say this also is like, okay, so I want you to simulate what a guy looks like when he's texting, he's holding your phone. I want you to simulate a side table, it has a phone charging on it.

Yeah. It's like those. There's no logic. He's got a cocktail glass and an open coconut. This goes thirsty. And he's on the ocean and- By the way, like, did they train this AI only on the emoji movie? Why do all the fruits look like this?

Sexy? Shut up. Oh. All right, continue. Any miss calls for my wife. She's going to be so mad when I get back home. I hope she's not going to ask too much questions. What?

Dude, don't ask too much questions. I hope she's not going to ask too much questions. Getting back from the bomb, my damn wife's asking too much questions. When you whisper secrets to the plane before you get home. She's out there. D.B. Cooper saying he's got a bomb. I got a bomb. I don't know.

You're not going to ask too much. She don't ask too much questions. All right, let's see if she asked too much questions. In this single file plane. Okay, we're here. I'm going to kiss her, hug her, and book a nice dinner for us tonight. She will forget this trip. Look to me.

Yeah. What the hell? What is this? Oh, she's getting boned by the coworker. Orange! Oh, I call it. What is going on here? James, I've known you.

Oh, I love that. Wait, if you back up. So that happens a lot to whatever cheap tool they're using, eye lines, by the way, a photo of a family that is not them. It's also human. It's what they put in the frame at Target. So their eyelines never match. It almost feels like they're completely unaware of the other elements that are in the frame

because it's all being generated at the same time. I don't know what the term is. It's possible that it's rattling around in Anastasia's outrageous brain. But there's like a specific term for the type of musical play where like Le Miz. everyone is always front to audience. Like, it's like presented song to song, and you might turn to address someone, but then it's like always straight back to the audience.

It's like that's like, my wife is, too, right? Because you're always like cheating out or whatever. No pun intended. Also, my brain is nutrages, not outrageous. So many hats. Him running on a treadmill. All right.

No, he pulled up a piece of the door. By the way, the family has now grown. It's got two. Dads. It's a polycule. Did they break into this house? Oh, no. There's part of the door. The door. The door is the other part of the door is over here. Yeah. It's a whole door. Thank God they don't have a ceiling. I don't, Jacob, you're saying that like it's a problem. They got two, they got a large photo and a small one on the night stand over there on the dresser. Door too small for the door frame. It's a backpack. This is the wonkiest room. Yeah. But at a glance, it looks kind of like a place.

Yeah. Yeah. It feels kind of. It just. very like MC Escher. She took her dress off and it's on the floor, except it's also on her body. And it's also on the floor in the other room. I'm learning a lot. You guys, I guess you guys are all really broke and you don't have backup dresses.

Yeah, she just keeps taking off dresses. She's got breakaway dresses. Yeah, I wear like four at a time. It's like an outfit reveal, a breakaway, but it's the same outfit. Yeah. Also, what you guys don't know is the little apple coming out of his head actually has eyes on it

that can see behind him. Oh, I see. It's like a beholder. That's why he has a reverse car because he doesn't need a rearview mirror. Oh, there's another door too. His briefcase became a shirt. Also, when he walked in,

if you back up a little bit, but we could do this all day. There's another door right there, I just realized as he walks in. Oh, shit. Awesome. Again, back up door. So sick.

Backup dress. You guys just broke. It's like almost like someone didn't preysmobile. watch any of this and it was generated by an algorithm and published by an algorithm. Also, I have a briefcase that becomes a shirt. Which honestly makes a lot of motherfucking sense. Whoa.

You might as well. It's for carrying them. I like how they're going to kiss right in front of him. Well, I mean, just in case it was unclear. Here's a third photo. That's awesome. Is it? It looks like someone's walking in on them.

It looks like a character's a bottom. Someone is walking in on them. I've known you for 15 years. How can you do this? Oh, please. Weren't you out in the Bahamas with your side chick? Oh, he's yelling it also. Yeah. Oh, they called him out. He was right to do that. How many years knowing someone is it bad for them to fuck your wife?

Yeah. I'm known you for 15 years. Go ahead. I would understand if it was 14. I've only known you for five months. So go ahead and fuck my wife. I think that logo in the bottom right hand corner is from the app that was used to generate this. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I think so. Is that Sora? That's like the Gemini. Yeah. Could be Gemini. It could be Gemini. It's also just a generic, like, icon. Oh, yeah.

I mean, if you put, like, if you go on Canver and search logo. Yeah. Okay. So, let's watch episode nine of AI Fruit Love Island. Am I going to get it? Maybe, maybe. No, I think nine's good. 11.

It's 9-11 What happened? Make a wish I know I was supposed to remember something And I think it's the one That's called Movie Night

Movie Night, by the way It's the thing that happens In regular Love Island That first one is right Yeah, they're all just the same Upwoods This is what we mean though Is that like

All of the episodes have been mirrored Because it's like free real estate Yeah Can I ask a question real quick? No These guys are not He's not sexy right No, I'm turned on

Yeah, okay then Yes she's like What fruit is she? She's supposed to be an apple, but she kind of looks like a kiwi. No, no, no, no. She was an apple in episode one. Yes. And then she becomes a Kiwi.

Yeah. And then she stays Kiwi. Well, I don't think she's a Kiwi anymore. Her name is Apelania or something like that. They named her before they changed the actress. It's like the mom and fresh prints. At one point, she does have like black hair. She mostly has like a kiwi fuzz, though, for a lot of her experiences.

She kind of looks like this, but a little bit fuzzier. Maybe that's what's so sexy. By the way, my favorite character in terms of how much they change, he's not in this episode, I don't think, because he got eliminated. Spoilers. But is a, but, but, but, but, Beninit, Beninito. Beninito. That's the banana.

That's the banana keys. Chimpanzee Bannonini Bannanini. Yeah, literally. Jacob, your, your Z is showing. I love it. This is my favorite, Jacob version. I don't know why. I just, would it be too.

Can AI do this? Is it possible that she throws me through her coffee table? Shut up. I say with love. Do they have that service? And, okay, yeah, you can play. We're going to need to skip around because this is a long, longest episode, I think.

I have a feeling you're going to like more of the ladies because they look exactly the same. Is there a sequence where she benches me? So in this clip, which is titled Mean Girls, they, you're going to see some of the other girls on the villa talking about Cherita, who in confidence to one of the men told him that she was a mother. This is very similar to in Love Island USA when Huda revealed that she is a mom. And they kind of bully her about it.

And so then Trita stands her ground to the girls. Yeah, to Strawberryita and Mangela or whatever. The Mangela, yeah. The Mangela effect. Mango. Yeah. That may not be her name, but it's mango related. Something like that, though.

You're right. Mangalina. Mangalina. She's mingled. It's just mush. Okay, but we seriously need to talk about Shereida. The whole I'm a mom thing? Like, why are you even on Love Island if you have a kid at home?

I know. Like, imagine being on a date and someone's like, by the way, I have a child. That's not a normal thing. That's a responsibility. Exactly. This is Love Island, not daycare. That's why the kid's not there. Okay, so Cherita doesn't think the adults also go to the daycare.

It's worth noting that before this moment, Shorita does not have a black scent. Oh. Up till this point in the show. But of course, when she gets aggressive, she's angry. They activate the black scent. Like Hulk.

So y'all were talking shit about me. It was just jokes. No, say that shit again. You were loud as hell earlier. Girl, you're doing too much. A.B. You are. I'm not about to sit here while you talk about me like that

both of you weird as hell you're mad yeah bitch I am not looking at her oh why didn't you don't do that oh come on it was just a joke I hate this fucking island fuck all you bitches

love island seems kind of good so she's the host yeah let's go to episode 12 episode 12 so this is a viewer's vote is this in the hands of the fans it is in the hands of the fans So if you scrub through for Chorita in a suitcase,

we'll see Trita leaving the island. Two suns. Tatouine. The binary sunset. And then she changes direction, okay, weird. Islanders and viewers, one chapter ends. Off model. But two new ones are about to begin.

We're bringing in two new bombshells, and you will decide who enters the villa. Here are your bombshell options. Nice, chill. How did she clip a non-stop? I'm a naya a papaya by the way so that's a human woman and that's literally ripped off from a Maya papaya from Love Island she's just wearing one of those hats people wear to like royal weddings all of these people are very normal let's keep watching a great way to a great way to wrap this

up is I haven't watched this clip yet and and we're going to have to watch so jacob the last thing we can watch about this is a real human being a Maya papaya from love island but Keep playing this. But keep playing this. Yes. This is an important. This is extremely important. The most important thing we've watched all day.

And no, that's a fruit. That's not just a woman. Yeah, that is a fruit. Yeah, you're right. It's just a... She's actually a papaya. She's a papaya. Can't you tell from her human face?

I'm here for something real. I don't play games, but I will follow what feels right. And if that shakes things up, so be it. I'm Blue Bella, a blueberry. I don't compete. Thanks. I just show up. And somehow...

In mocapsuit. I'm always the one they choose. I'm peacha, the peach. I'm sweet on the inside, but I'm here to shake things up. I'm Pearson. Like the pear. I'm chill. But if I like you, I'm not backing off.

Oh. Let's see who's worth it. I'm Draco. I don't care who's coupled up. That's me. If I want something, I take it. That's me, by the way. I like problems.

What are bad boys into? Bad stuff. Problems. Did we? I solve them. I'm in the way. I like puzzles. Can we, can you hit X and type in Cherita?

I do the New York Times crossword on a Sunday. If you're wondering how to spell it, I don't know. It's Cherry T.A. You can try Cherry T.A. and then Y as well, like how you just did. Hate this fucking island. Fuck all you bitching. Got your nina. Yeah, so in this, and this is like where the dead internet theory falls apart for me,

because like these fan cams are plentiful and have tons of engagement. That says 45,000 likes. If you look at, if you look at Huda, Cherita, HUDA is a human being. Right there, right there, right there. So the bottom left, one point three million likes. And all it is, I mean, yeah, all of this is comparing the two. Oh, because it's the character It's like referencing?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, she's just the character with a child I mean, I guess if you just like take a photo of one person Of a cartoon and put it over a person back and forth I guess I'll be like, yep, that's a person I guess, for sure. No, we showed Jordan everything. Jacob, what do you think about all this? He's doing a big smile.

I mean, I can't deny that it's entertaining. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, it's not like I was talking to Anastasia about this and Anastasia was like, it's not boring. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's, that's how they, that's where they're bread is butter. It feels like seeing a merge mansion ad. Yeah. Like a mobile ad.

You never know what she happened next. Also, those mobile games, again, with the Cheez-It analogy, I have played some mobile games where I'm like, I can't stop playing this stupid ass game. Oh, absolutely. This stupid game that pisses me off. Yeah. And then eventually I stopped playing it and I move on to something else. But it's like, what's the fifth video here that's got a woman in the bottom hand corner? Is this a woman criticizing it or is she a fan?

Everyone is talking about Fruit Love Island. Tarrita is apparently Huda. Toreta ended up getting with Arangelo. Repenzo chooses Water Molina. Traberita enters as a bombshell. This is unnecessary. You don't need to recap. She's reaching the same register that they torture people in Guantanamo with.

I cannot handle that. She's doing the actual Love Island recap type thing. Yeah. What's interesting is water Molina changes appearance. pisses me off. And then Bannonito looks different every time. The, here's a thing, can you do Candy Love Island? I'm going

to die. I'm going to die if Candy Love Island's a real thing. I'm honestly going to expire on camera. Can we search to see? Wait, I don't want to search. You'll die. I've had a good run. Search it. We've got some defibrillators just in case.

One man show. Oh no. No way. Oh no. No way. Oh no. to follow us oh no how many let's watch episode one oh no fucking play the whole thing oh no i just want to see if it has the same production quality if it's like i'm wondering if it's like uh a different person or it's just the same thing go back i think yeah i think i saw episode one it's like a episode 14 yeah there's even at the end welcome to candy love island where love is sweet and drama

is sweeter. Finally, nobody better get in my way. I just want someone genuine, actually sweet. What if no one picks me? Girl, stop. They're gonna love you. Win what exactly? Everything. Did I come here for love? Sure. Did I also come here to win? Absolutely. Are the other girls a threat? I said what I said. Okay, so this is... Look at this place. It looks... Oh, look at that little. Shut, no! No, you're falling for their tricks! You can't say that. Oh my God, Don a man's scaring me. Don't a man is scaring me. He has a big hole in his head. I don't like that. He's like Phineas Gage.

him right through the middle of his face. No one's ever said that. No one's ever, no one's ever compared Donut Man to Phineas Gage before. Yeah, I want to hear some of the pun names. Okay. So. Chocolatina.

So this is an AI cinema account, but I don't know if it's, because there's like a hundred, like a hundred is an undersell. There's probably a thousand AI cinema, not even joking, a thousand AISCine accounts. And they're all called like AI.

And then a number, but cinema is spelled differently sometimes. And so my question is, the top comment is please make Fruit Love Island. Oh. So is that how that was born? Well, this was one day ago. AI Cinema, can you DM at every episode? Oh, wait.

Are they just doing, like Drew puts out a video and we get DM to do this topic? Maybe. They're just doing like, do more. Oh, look, let's look. No, I need more Fruit Love Island. I will post another episode tomorrow. Also, there's nothing stopping anyone from diverging the series because it's all AI generated and none of the models match so you can just

you do it your own yeah you this is like asking someone to make you serial in your house yeah like well that's see you can do it are they doing a helo drop like do they parachute down to love island yeah there's a big hole in the point i have to i have i can't deny that i'm curious where this goes one you know bro this has higher production quality somehow yeah okay now The island matches. Whatever she is, I hope she likes it here too. Who are you talking about? We haven't met anyone yet.

I know. Oh my God. This place is insane. Everyone's talking over each other. Are we actually staying here? It'll do. Good. This is exactly what I deserve.

Okay, everyone. Can you pause? There's something I've noticed when we were watching these mirrored videos. Did you notice that low drone in the background? Yeah. I feel like that's something that mirror, like when someone's re-uploading an episode, they put that weird drone in the background. This cycle sinking,

frequency. Yeah, I don't understand why they do that. I thought it would be to get tail one. Is there, yeah, why do they have um, an ambient track from the last of us? Yeah, I don't. But it's, but then I'll like look in like find another upload and it doesn't have the sound. So they, I, they added it. Is it to be? Donut guy is now mostly a donut. A donut. Yeah, he's a mascot. Now he's like a mascot. Now he's like a bagel. Well, you know those, uh, donut places that have the big donut on this. Randy's donut. Yeah, like so it's like that was legs. Yeah. He just just like grew legs and walked off a dream game true. It is the comment that's like, it's the recursive,

please make fruit love island, please make candy love island, where I'm like, Toy Love Island. Is this, Toy Story, is this function exactly the same way as like, those old, like, we've watched them on the show a while ago, my channel too, the hashtag story, remember those? Yeah.

And it's like, you live in a world where every word you say makes your boyfriend hate you. Yeah. And then like, it's that. And then someone replies, part five, but it's instead it's a girlfriend. Yeah. It's just like. It's that, but I have an infinite amount of respect more for the real human beings doing that content.

And so, but the thing is, if the audience doesn't care, we've lost the plot. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's the fear. I guess why would you, why would you, I think that it's very easy, especially with online bloody blah discourse capital D to lose track of the fact that most people like don't know the animated To be honest, like, so the AI Cinema Zero21 is the original account, and it might be banned in this moment, and it might be in a weird state where you can't click on it, but you can view their videos. It's very confusing.

Also, can I point out something? If you scroll in or zoom in, do you see how AI Cinema 69 has the banana facing the other way? Oh, yeah. What's happening? Oh. He's scared. Because the text is all the same. And the other two.

we were the same. I'm so, I'm like very slightly different but the same. I have so many questions and we won't get to the bottom of this today. So I apologize. Let's let's wrap up with a human being. So this is the last thing we see. Jacob, you can click on that link I said. Why not just watch Love Island? There's so many seasons and so many episodes for every season. If you want to be miserable, just watch 90-day Vyote. It's just not spoon feeding it to you in the same plate. I think the one thing we said is like, hey, you can watch a movie like 50 parts like one by one on TikTok. And they'll be be someone who, an AI voice that will help you realize what's happening. He was a man who was called the beekeeper and the beekeeper would shoot people to help fight against bad people.

Jordan's reminding me of when he turned on text descriptions for the Melania movie. He got way better. We'll talk about that in a minute. Stop comments and Fruit Island on my TikTok. No, I don't watch Fruit Island, but never lost Fruit Island. Is she on? I don't support Fruit Island. She's a Maya.

She's on Fruit Island, sorry. What'd she say? I was asking if she was on Love Island, but I said, is she on Fruit Island? So Amaya was the, spoiler alert. This is Amaya, Papaya, the winner of Love Island USA, the last season. This is crazy to me that Amaya, a real person who, like, did this reality show, is now getting comments on her TikTok that are going Love Island, Fruit Island. Like, do it?

Do it. Do Fruit Island. Make episode nine of Fruit Island. It is a little bit how like, uh, like a three-year-old interprets the world. It's like, make it rain. Like, Amaya, please, for the love of God, do not post anaya papaya. Don't post any fruit. Stay strong.

Stay strong. Stay strong for us. We're here for you. We support you. We as representatives of the human race. Some of the last ones. We need you to stay strong. We've been in this bunker.

We were like, you are our only hope. We're Ellie from the last of us. We were born immune. And we're some of the few immune, we need to propagate our blood out there. Please don't do it. We, okay, we can continue. Next thing you know, you're going to see a fucking duplicate of yourself walking down the street. You keep up with this fruit item shit.

Yeah. Taking this shit as a joke, bro. Like, no, I'm okay. How do you think I felt when I woke up and I saw Anaya Papaya? You think she's my friend? No, she's my enemy. She's my other enemy. Yeah, she's her enemy.

That's right. Fight the good fight of mine. I mean, she's just entertaining her chat. But anyway, stay strong. Please. Stay strong. Don't become, don't turn into a fruit, please. God feels weird to say that doesn't that.

That sounded homophobic. It's tricky. It's, I cannot find the words. No, but like, that was me talking about the fruit of island. It's like saying fruit in an angry tone makes you sound like a bigot. Sick of these. I'm sick of these fruits on this island. I like them.

Whoa, chilled. Dude. Me too. Okay. Thank you, uh, human correspondent, Amaya Papaya, for reminding us that we are warm-blooded individuals with thoughts, feelings, hopes, and dreams. Show that you made it to the end of this episode

by commenting. No. Make, um, skeleton love island. No. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spooky love, no, God. I'm giving them ideas. Well, we're going to head on over to patreon.com.

So sad boys. That's sad boys with a Z at the end. Like you can go, you're listening to. To do our post-podcast Patreon show. Yeah, it's just another part. It's just another one of these. But we're going to be watching, we're going to be talking about the small portion of Melania,

the documentary that we could handle watching the other night before cleansing our palate. I had so much to say. It's crazy that we cleanse our palate with age of attraction. The different trash that was somehow not as bad. Somehow not as bad. And we're also going to dirty our palate once more with the horrific, disgusting NSW,

shit that's just on TikTok of the fruit. For cheating videos. We love you. And we're sorry and we're really sorry. Like genuinely I apologize. Especially sorry for this episode. Yeah. I think you're going to apologize to me.

I would never. Okay. Okay, bye. Bye. Go too rich for me