Sad Boyz - AI Is Breaking Our Brains

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

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Welcome to Sab Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. What a? And you almost got me to say it. I know. I know I did because you were about to say another thing that starts with W. I've sworn off it.

You've sworn off it in that most of the times I've seen you in the last two weeks. You've done this. You go, Wagwan. Fuck. Fucking shit. It's again, just just even briefly doing the Toronto accent as a joke, it just put it right back in my brain. And now I can't like. You know what it is?

It fulfills the goal of yelling really gives you the boost you need if you do not have much battery. It's almost like a dress for the job you want. I do like things like that. Like for example, sometimes I like to, like we do a Patreon show, Sab Boys Nights after we record the main show. And sometimes we're a little tired. Sometimes we, you know, sink into our seats a little bit. And I like to have stuff to do that like pepals. me up or makes me chuckle that I want to save entirely so that I get a little energy boost.

It's like when you hit one of those like rainbow ramps on Mario Cramp, where you're just like, whoa, okay, cool, we're back on track. Yeah, popping a star real quick. Yeah, pop in a star. Because the mushroom, I always thought was, when you get big from the mushroom, it's applied that he's eaten the mushroom. It is implied. Who are also the citizens of that world, so it's a little weird.

Though, yeah, I actually, as time has gone on. I don't think it's implied that he's eating it because in the first appearance of the mushroom, it's like sliding across the ground. And then it's like, yeah, it's impending. And then it hits him and then he goes, boom, boom, boom. He was like, thank God. Yeah, and he's like, well, I'm bigger now. It's kind of like Popeye and spinach, I suppose.

It touches his skin and then he gets really, really bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Popeye, like, he unhinges his jaw and just like downs the entire can of spinach. To save his wife? What's going on in that canon? like the star is being absorbed into his skin. Yeah, it does just, for sure. Just touched him for even a second. Dude, dude, do, do, do, do, do that feels so good. Oh, dude. The first time it happens to, you feel all powerful. I imagine it's how Thanos felt. You don't think it's going to end? You think

the party's going to end? And that's like a metaphor for life, I think. In fact, I think it must be what it's like to be on cocaine. Dude, the boost. Like, because I've never, and also with ADHD, I've heard it's different, but I haven't partookin, and part of me does get the vibe that it's going to be, you're actually literally going to hear the music. And then you start to blink faster and people know it's about to run out. People don't know, no. You're like, do you want to start a bit? I think I'll go to bed. I don't want to do anything.

I just, I really, I was always put off my coat because every single person I know who's like a social cocaine person. So like just once a month or something, but goes from somebody I'd like enough to be hanging out with to just absolutely unbearable. Like, annoying in the way that I am at every minute of the day fighting against being. It's all of the traits I at my most insecure might worry that I have.

Right. And for the life of me, it's like, it's like holding up a mirror to everything you hate about your potential self. Yeah. Everything you hate about, yeah. And it costs money. Like you're buying that. I heard about, I've been in Survivor mode, which is what a lot of people call when they're struggling.

And it's what I call when I'm watching a lot of Survivor. Thriving. No, no, no. But I, I, I'm not how much you got left? I am going to stop soon. Because I've run out of seasons that I want to watch. Now it's vegetables. And not even that.

It's just like candy corn. It's like I'm not a big candy corn guy. So when it's all candy, it's oops all candy corn. You're like, ooh, I'm not even. I don't know. about that. What's the, is like the general consensus

is that those seasons are not that interesting? I mean, I think it's one of those where like, maybe there are certain characters that you might want to follow or maybe you don't care

or, there's a lot of seasons that are like, oh, these are the best seasons that you must watch. And I was mostly focusing on those. But there is kind of like,

some people have come up with like various watch orders like the Star Wars movies. Oh yeah. Respect to those people. Respect to every. I put them in the same, like, heroic class of people as pedantic, but correct people that keep Wikipedia accurate. Oh, yeah.

And people who, instead of Googling something, will go on a subreddit and ask the question so that five years later, when I Google it, there's a subreddit. When I search it, like, plus Reddit. The issue, I think now, I've heard, and I'm curious if this will eventually come to Reddit as well, is that AI, there's like a war between. AI and Wikipedia editors. And I hope they keep fighting the good fight. Because I think people are trying to like slopify like the content. What was the, um,

did we look at this a while ago? It was the grok equivalent of Wikipedia or something. And it was clearly just great results. Was it not called Grockopedia? I think it was and it was also just almost a carbon copy. Yeah. It was just that information with like,

but the indexing was. But then taking Epstein out of everything. But let's not. Let's not get off track. Cocaine. I also never did cocaine because my first real boyfriend was really into it. And I like over the course of us dating, he got more into it. And I was like, this, you are awful.

Like you are so annoying on cocaine. How it connects to Survivor is that. I heard recently that there was a cut scene. And I want to say it's in, they would sometimes do deleted scenes online. And they also recently cut a, they used to do a web series of the people who got eliminated because they're on a resort.

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Like so when they get cut, they like just hang out at this resort for the rest of the time. They just go and do Love Island. Yeah, essentially, like off camera, which is kind of, they do it from base principles.

That's actually got a vibe. Yeah, I kind of like that. A big resort of Loo. But loser island. Loser Island. So apparently one of the guys who was kind of weird already, like a bag of cocaine washed up on the beach or something. And he like grabbed it and tried to hide it from production. Like a message from a pirate?

I imagine that. In a bottle. I've heard of this happening where. Well, I have to imagine that a lot of cocaine trade is happening on the water. So it's bound to happen. Also people have like found it in the woods and stuff. because if you're transporting it in the sky, in an airplane. Why did I say it like that?

You're not on camera, but you're using the universal signal for plane. Also, half of walk like an Egyptian, that racist, like... I can't tell which one you're doing. Well, now you just take that. No, no, you can't. This is why it's just not allowed to be on camera. This sounds like a joke that we're doing to make you so racist you were doing. Nope, that's not an airplane.

That's a completely different symbol with your hand that you definitely shouldn't be doing. Yeah. So, um, if, a lot of, you're doing, now you're doing, now you're doing, like with the puppet who's talking to you.

Oh. Um. Anesthesia, to an audience of two. It's just for us. You can't see it. So, um,

it's, it's easier and less risky for airplanes to just parachute down drugs, rather than trying to land because you get caught more often if you try to, land in an airport. It's just like the drop zone and then you like have people intercepting the drop. Exactly. And then handing it out manually. So anybody want to creep it to go again?

We've got it. They would parachute it down into like various wooded areas or whatever and then people would come and grab it. But then sometimes you lose some of it. Yeah. And I guess it's worked into the economy of it. It's kind of like when you have insurance for your like store. And I imagine same with when you're on a boat transporting.

it, it probably, you know, I don't know. Mistakes happen. You got to put it some ropes on the box. But maybe you're like tossing it to a little boat or something. Oh, hey, thanks for the help. Hey, treat yourself. Was it that dirty money documentary that you recommended to me? Was there an episode about a guy who got really into cocaine trade in like the 80s?

That sounds familiar. I think it was that series. Is it the guy from American Made, the Tom Cruise movie? I don't know, but it was basically like a dude who like, was it the guy who wanted to be a race car driver? I think so. This guy's got a lot of hobbies. I think he wanted to be a race car driver, but like being a race car driver is like extremely expensive. And so like to finance it, he just got deeper and deeper into the like illicit cocaine trade.

It's breaking bad, but he isn't dying. Yeah, it's breaking bad, but he just wants to pursue his dream. That actually would be much more. And, uh, and... That's just medical as all. Well, I mean, like, best. Basically, it all worked until like it didn't. And then like they would, they would like get tipped off that there were customs agents and stuff like at a port.

They were trying to land in and then they like had to like go to the other coast of like go from the east of the west coast. And there is an instance where some of the workers may have allegedly died and that's where it gets like really crazy. Like, um, but the CIA had to step in and go, hey, we do cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. That's our thing. Well, I wanted to connect that to something. But I had no longer remember.

There's the survivor connection. Speaking of having a dream. Speaking of having a dream. Are you about to talk about Martin Luther King Jr.? Are you about to- You said the race car driver had a dream? You're trying to pull the race car? By talking about civil rights.

You call it okay a race car driver. Well, he's not pulling the race card. He's fighting for equal rights. Jesus. This is insane. I can't believe you start off with your, you know, thing. Yeah. We're doing a more generous version of it, I guess.

Yeah, we're doing a much more generous version. I guess thanks for throwing your heart out to us. I can't even explain to what Anastage was doing. This is where being off camera actually bites me in the airs. And this was my choice to be off camera, and now I regret it. I think what's biting you in the ass is knowing and spending time with us. That is true. It's more of an ounce of prevention would be the cure here.

Yeah. No, but go ahead and transition us. So wanting to move out from. the underclass. Apparently, that's not going to be possible anymore. Oh, yeah. Okay. So this is something that we talked about in pre-production that I don't think I can

really introduce super well, but I'm going to try. So I understand that there's a, well, I think to start, we live in a very dark time. And there's a lot of horrible, horrible things happening in the world. you know, brink of world war. It feels like economy not good, job market not good, future prospects looking bleak. But all that, and then on top of it, AI disruption of tons of industries. And even if it's not organic disruption, it feels like it's being forced into every nook and cranny of enterprise, every nook and cranny of like the job market. Yes, the markets and the services are being preemptive.

broken so that then you can gesture and say, oh, like, maybe we could fix this with AI now that we ruined it. So what I understand, or do you want to jump? Well, I was just going to say, and there's a lot of fear right now. Absolutely. So what's the best thing to do? Exploit that fear. Because if you have the fear antidote, which is techoids, like super, like hyper accelerationist, pro AI tech people basically telling you, you need to look.

learn to code. You need to get with the program or else you're going to get left in the dust. Some guy with an Andrew Schultz haircut and a medically prescribed windbreaker telling you that it's time for you to think more critically about stuff. Yeah, for sure. Coolest kind of guy. The Patagonia, yeah. The Patagonia Jujitsu Mindset guy. The Patagonia boat shoes and slacks with a with like a, with like a sky blue Oxford, Oxford button up. We're trying to do like a creator character for someone with only debuffs. All the equipment is like pulling their likeability down.

Dude, yeah, don't just judgment by his cash salary. Judgment by his stock package as well. Judging by the cover. You will save a lot of time. Yeah, it looks like a Winkle boss twin. This terminology that people are, I've seen people using now where AI is going to

sort of take over people's jobs and create less class mobility. the first time I was able to sort of like find this sort of like sentiment expressed on Twitter was last August actually fuck that blue check's cool yeah with this really cool guy I'm so glad mine's gone dude and he basically

he's saying that they there's a chance that AI will widen the like wealth gap to divide lazy people from what he called calls high agency people. And so now... What's funny is agent now kind of...

It's like agenic. Like, it's like AI agents. Yeah. They're high on AI, so they're high agency. High value people, by which I mean, like, people I would turn into fuel. AI democratizes. This is like where people are like, I'm really bad at drawing Snoopy. So AI is democratizing my artistic abilities.

I created Starry Night, but it has Halo characters in it now. I think what he's claiming is that with AI now and like going forward in the next several months and years, you don't have to be good at stuff. You just have to be good at doing something like starting the process because AI will enable you to do anything you want. You just have to do something. Right.

And so that's where this high agency concept comes in where it's like, it's not necessarily the people who are talented or skilled who will be rewarded. It will be people who have the audacity to do something with AI. The audacity to think bigger. Someone obnoxious enough to move forward. And now people are taking these concepts of high agency people and this like fear of being stuck in the permanent underclass. And I mean, there's like memes and stuff about it now, but I think a lot of it is circulating around like tech industry professionals who are basically like the sentiment is you need to get really good at using AI now or you're going to get left behind and you're going to become this permanently impoverished. That's so because of this right now.

And of course, historically, people in America, we all know and feel this as does everyone listening, that it's all. It's always been meritocracy and all you need to do is make sure that you get your eight hours of beauty nap and then you can get you can succeed in anything you want. It's certainly not like a pre-designed exploitative system built from the ground up to keep you in a position but make you. Certainly not. Community members because you think other people within your community are working hard or less than you. Also to give, yeah, the false impression that your position is entirely of your own doing. Yeah. Which, like, it absolves any and everyone from, like, benefiting from an oppressive system.

What's funny, like, can we briefly go back to that other one, sorry, just for a second, is that, I'm sure this one will reflect it as well. Is that, like, ultimately, all of this proactive language and framing is just to obscure the fact that this, this is laziness. If there's one thing that is the absence of agency, it is the app, it is the, it is the, it is the, it is the, choice to not think critically and engage with things on a humanist level. I don't just mean like anti-computer human. I mean just like holistically taking into account all people, all situations, having the creativity or imagination to try and explore social systems or community systems that would benefit people as opposed to like this hyper unambitious. Well, no, basically everything's going to be the system we have now except there's like a Uranus is replaced with a USB slot or something.

this is not like high agent thinking. This is default thinking. It reminds me of like alpha male mindset stuff. Coincidentally always despite using language about like being active, being high value, all that stuff. It never really seems to include anything introspective that would need to require you to think outside of your comfort zone. And the hard work of. Yeah, feeling bad till you feel better, working on it. Like, yeah, I'm actually a Sigma male, which is.

is a really elegant way of saying like a socially malagoy, unpleasant, rude guy. So apparently Jordy Hayes down there says, we have at least four years to escape the permanent underclass. So if that was in 20-25, so now we actually have three. But I think the timeline is continuing to be updated. So some are saying that we've got as little as six months to get with the program.

So if you can't do it in six months, you're a failure and a fool and you shouldn't be left behind. Yeah, it's almost that you sound like my internal dialogue. This episode of Sadboys is sponsored by GLD. Buyingman's jewelry used to be a nightmare. It'd always be like low quality stuff that broke after a week, not to mention being overpriced or super marked up. But GLD has changed the game.

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Let me see that. You guys see what this guy is from. I'm going to take a step. It's somewhere in that realm. Building AI powered brands. By the way, it is always the, like the town crier, doomsayer is always like someone who profits from the AI bubble. They're fear mongering.

For sure. The plague is coming. I have snake oil for you. Yeah. No, literally. And it's like, The crazy thing about this is that it does kind of, like, it helps create such a large and diffuse bubble of confusion and hype that it obscures all of the actual value of like any

AI technology because it has and will continue to like revolutionize certain industries. Like, one is my former job of software engineering. Like, most people who do that job now are using AI-assisted, like, coding. Or they're, it's somewhere in their workflow for so, so many people. It's, like, a part of, like, the interview pipelines and stuff like that. It's, like, the expectation. But that doesn't justify the doubling and tripling of the valuations of these AI companies. They're based on the bet that everyone's going to be eating, sleeping, and breathing AI all the live long day.

And if that doesn't happen, then there will inevitably be some sort of bubble pop. So it almost feels like people are, and not economic advice, like I'm not an expert, but it absolutely feels like people are pumping. It feels like people are like, well, I've got, you know, metaphoric or literal stock in this. and I'm trying to pump this so that the hype is as big as possible so that I can cash out and someone else is like holding the bag. It feels weird seeing this kind of stuff

breaking containment a little bit. Like why it's obviously it's not so much new as it is new to being exposed because like these kinds of people and this kind of rhetoric existed for a really long time. It's kind of funny to see them get to like a kind of a Kiwi farm's 4chan mindset

where now it's nihilist stuff. It's not as much acceleration as it is Everyone's going to die I might as well get your guzzly You know what's interesting is like Peter Thiel I think is As one of the movers and shakers in these The space is has that kind of like nihilistic Yeah

Like mentality Which feels like it's like trickle down But I mean it reminds me a little bit of The yeah the learn to code thing like I sincerely hope you learned to prompt It's like that Like my eyes are so far rolled in the back of my head. Would you mean learned?

As if like the thing is I think that also the PhDs and stuff who are like working on the actual technology are like obviously they're making money hand over fist but they're also doing like unique and interesting work. The people who like self-appointed themselves like the movers and shakers of the next generation because they can prompt their AI agent. I don't actually think that skill set is as valuable as they've convinced themselves that it is. That's code for sure. Yeah, because it's like, I'm actually an artist now because I said monkey D. Luffy looking a lollipop. And I hope you learned to prompt. It's like, now coding is as simple as like requesting something in English. And debugging and testing and stuff can be using these more analog skills that like is something that I'm

I learned, but you can also just have other agents do that for you. And so now it is like kind of a lot of this AI stuff is like the orchestration of agents with different, with different roles. And I kind of could care less about some of that stuff. And it's like the bad part about AI is the excessive power utilization, which of course is like something that people talk about. And downstream, it affects water. but Hank had a good video about like kind of working upstream from like where that water number comes from and like what the what the big issue that like leads to that downstream water thing is and it seems to be power utilization but or power consumption and the other issue is the theft part like the the like IP like the fact and I can't remember if I've said some of this stuff on the podcast so stop me but it's like I believe at the very

at least Open AI, allegedly, I'll say, because who knows if they're litigious, but I think multiple of the large players in the AI space have all paid like hundreds of thousands of dollars for this library of pirated books, because a big thing with AI is data, is clean data. And it's why scale.aI became such a big successful company. And Alexander Wong, the CEO of that company was brought it into, they basically did an aqua hire type thing where they like hired the CEO of that company to lead AI initiatives at Meta. There's like an Atlantic article about the scale of AI's pirated books problem. But anyway, there's been reporting about how these companies have essentially illegally paid

hundreds of thousands of dollars to what equates to like some like power broker pirates like signal chat to like get access to this like gigantic library. of pirated materials so that they can have clean data to train their AI models on. And it's like that type of shit is the same mentality that has like Uber entering into cities that it hasn't done the proper like governmental processes with and then just like eating whatever fines. Because yeah, because the fines are never going to equate to the profits. So from like a emotional standpoint, I sort of feel like this is, um, there's,

not to get like super conspiratorial about it but I feel like there's something useful maybe if if you if you're concerted effort that you're made if like your unstated goal is to make people distracted enough or make people worn out enough that like the more kind of predatory things that you're doing at a cultural or institutional level or whatever kind of get ignored or because people are overwhelmed with other justifiable concerns. The whole AI conversation, or even really any conversation about business

as extension for people who are, like, the cost of living crisis is so present, but even the dialogue around the cost of living crisis has not been co-opted by the right to be something that's somehow tied to their advocates. Well, something that they like put in quotes, affordability crisis, that's what it was. Like it's something, as if it's like a myth.

Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, Yeah, it's like a cryptozoology. Like, we have to find this thing. Yeah. Now, I am the president, but there's this fucking affordability crisis. Yeah, it's weird. It's like we can afford the wars, though. I'm covered in blood holding the knife.

Who the hell killed them? Who killed all these people? It's going on here. And who looted their fucking looted their wares. Well, I'm fixing the previous president. I was president before. Yeah, very well. But those four years in between.

Oh, they did. Oh, they did 20 years worth of damage in this four years. So you should probably elect me for the next 20. He sneaked in. Yeah, I've had a year and a half. I was tired. Are there more posts about this stuff? Yeah.

So I think one of the big reasons that people have been talking about this more recently is that a few weeks ago, anthropic CEO, Dario Amadhi. Amadeh. He released this essay where he talks about sort of like his feelings about like, AI and like where he sees like the technology going and there's one specific section where he compares it to the industrial revolution and how people with specific skills during the industrial revolution got replaced by machines and he's sort of like comparing ways that the rise of AI would be like probably similar in ways it would be different and there's one specific section in here

that people have been pointing out where he... I'm reading something, this underclass thing is crazy. AI is affecting people with certain intrinsic cognitive properties, namely lower intellectual ability,

which is harder to change. It is not clear where these people will go or what they will do, and I'm concerned that they could form an unemployed or very low-wage underclass. So first of all... Gotta keep an eye for that. First of all, like,

there's already so many unemployed It's like I worry that there could be this thing where the job market's rough for people. Oh, the thing that's happening right now? What are they describing? This literally could be written around the time of the Industrial Revolution if you took out the term AI. Like, I'm concerned that, you know, people, companies having the agency to selectively cut out people that they're dissatisfied with might create. I don't know, like some kind of underserved class of some kind. This episode of Sirboys is sponsored by Saylee Isam.

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So it is not exactly a reassuring precedent. What's the skill? Yeah. I would have to click that link and see what they're specifically referring to, but I have to imagine. Oh, sorry. No, I mean now. Oh, well, they're talking about. Like a lot of knowledge work and stuff like even programming right like it's like programming is an analog skill that is

Kind of being rendered inert by AI the actual act of like writing Like code let's say and so A lot of those people are very close to the AI that's replacing it so we'll become Arbiters of that AI and develop a new a new skill set that I guess that's what they're like arguing If that, yeah. I don't disagree that this, like, even if 80% of everything AI is just completely bunk and based on, like, false promises, I think there will be a sliver of some, like, stuff that cuts through the noise. Yeah, definitely.

It just kind, it's kind of like an appeal to authority where, like, this would make total sense if the top of the pipeline, uh, gatekeeper arbiters, this were unbiased nepo-free holy trinity judgment position but no it's not it's not currently nothing has ever been that way no it has always been access based like like what the fuck like it's i'm not like uniquely podcasting talented that's a series of circumstances that led to it it's just it's like want to know how i got this road like um it's a contributing factor but like it's where it where's the nephew bias? Well, and I have like a very, something stuck in my craw as they say where I'm from. Where you from?

He's saying lower intellectual ability. He's not taking into the fact that there are different types of intelligence. You can be smarter. I think he is, is biased towards technology. Homework. Oh, 100%. I think that there's a huge bias here to one technologists. The other bias here is it almost is written to not offend his peers, even though there's a lot of evidence to suggest that it is more of this like knowledge work and this like white collar work that is more readily replaced by AI labor than existing formulas.

than some of these other jobs. Like, it's like, like, for example, the, like, it's like I, you know, was doing programming by hand for like a decade, let's say, from like when I started school to like when I left the tech industry. Like that work is like kind of usurped by like new, new workflows and new stuff. And it's so, it's already, like there is a, I would have to pull this up. but there is a study, some sort of independent study of like developer productivity. And the first time they did it, it was like some people used like a genetic code, like generation and stuff with their workflow.

And the control group didn't. And essentially like the group that was using AI initially felt that they were performing above their normal ability. but compared to the control group, they were actually slower at like completing the tasks. But then the most recent attempt to do that same study, they were not able to get a single group of developers to opt in to the control group where they can't use AI. Right.

So it's like now there's a, oh yeah, meter. Yeah, it was this meter study. And that's a point to the fact of like how this is rapidly changing certain industries more readily than others. So it's weird to, for like Amadeh, for example, to talk about this like downstream thing when like upstream closer to the work that he's doing. Yeah. There's already AI like replacing some of these work of things, but you don't want to offend those sensibilities. Right.

You instead want to appeal to this like false superiority that these like high intellect people. Because, you know, it's like these people are smart people. But it doesn't mean that their job can't be like on average. But like, like in certain... Informed. Like, I would say they're on average, they're good at math and they're good at physics and they're good at programming, which... It's like we've studied, we've studied, like, programming aptitude and like some people

click some people... Like any other skill set. And like those things, like, it is not a... I don't... Like, again, I'm not the CEO of Anthropic, and so he might be privy to data or information that I'm not. But like, it seems that it is agnostic of whatever perception of intelligence you have. And it's more about the way that these models ingests and process information and how readily that can be turned into a product.

It's been very easy to take a job that is highly about text transformation and to feed it to like an agent to then continue to transform text. And there's lots of problems that a lot of developers burn out because they're solving the same problems in different ways. over and over and over again when there's like an old way of doing things that's like an old faithful that all still works but but developers like consistently like reinvent the wheel sometimes seemingly to keep themselves interested yeah yeah oh my TV needs another update why is that because it's got to go to work there's something to do um because it's like most of the internet as it exists today could be i mean there's obviously differences but a lot of the internet functionally speaking, as it exists today, can be recreated with tools from a decade ago,

but oftentimes isn't because there's always a new technology that increases some benchmark on something or some different paradigm or some different way of representing problems. But at the end of the day, if you're just looking at the product, the end product, as like the consumer often is, it kind of doesn't matter, like what like the inputs are. Yeah, the logistics are not only like people not engaged with it. People don't fucking care. I mean, why the hell would they? Yeah.

They have utility to think about. There's a, I know, it's always very telling to me when the language of, um, intelligent intellect, uh, natural skill, talent, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. When it's, where's the word education? Yeah. Something that's like actually manually could be adjusted or accounted for as opposed to, what do they call it?

Certain intrinsic cognitive abilities, I think is crazy. Yeah. Like, um, head shape and nose width. Yeah. Yeah. It's like what is, and also lower intellectual ability. Skin tone. That's like what's sticking in my craw, as I said before.

Yeah. What does that even mean? Which is harder to change. Like, intrinsic, but it's hard. It's either intrinsic or it isn't. Like it's the education element is it's a bias and a privilege, but like SAT prep. Yeah. It's like, even IQ, even IQ you can like improve your score at.

Right. Like I think this to me reeks of someone who needs to. to like step out of their bubble and like talk to other people with different backgrounds because I feel Silicon Valley loves to kind of big up someone with a very specific vibe, a very specific skill set that doesn't actually reflect. This is like, you know, your Elon's of the world. It's like, Elon for so long was hailed as this like genius. And like you listen to him talk and it's very clear that like he is not like the greatest orator of our time right so it's like okay despite being a leader where that's kind of the only thing you're supposed to be yeah and and then it's like when

he was more obscure he could become he could be a legend but then when people see more examples of stuff you start to demystify that that legend and realize the the shortcomings of this of this person but then Silicon Valley loves to mythologize these people and specific types of skill sets, even if they don't necessarily lead to, like, different outcomes. Like, examples that come to mind include Google and the first iteration of, like, the way Google does their technical interviews, or at least, I don't know what it's like, excuse me today, but maybe as of 10 years ago, but for like 20 years before that, they kind of were the canary in the coal mine for doing like mass hiring of, quote,

quote smart people and the first go at that included like people's SAT scores and shit that like doesn't like it's like you went through a college you studied a thing why would you even care about someone's SAT score something that's like easy to game and then and then it moves on to these like kind of esoteric challenge problems that are asymmetric to the job that you're actually doing they're like not super they're not directly applicable necessarily to the to the job that you're doing but And they used to be in the form of like riddles and puzzles, like, why is a manhole round and shit like that. And then it moves on to like kind of coding puzzles and things. And there is some sort of overlap.

And it's supposed to be an analog for, it's supposed to be an analog for your thought process and what it would be like to work with you. But I feel that the tech world has defined intellectual ability as this very narrow band of traits. And if you fall outside of that, you are deemed lesser than under the guise of this like optimization, you know? And that your technical ability is, or like, sorry, your intellectual ability, if you have it will get you out of whatever starting circumstances you have and you will get into Harvard as long as you try. There's nothing else that can get in your way. It's just like I just have countless examples because I went to school with a lot of people who are very good at computers. It's like kids who are like geniuses at one thing, but just horrible to work with or horrible to talk to or horrible at communicating their thoughts or it's like all of these things really

hinder your ability to work with others. And that is like there is only so much an individual can accomplish. And like whether or not that is considered intelligence, I think is an important point because clearly they're not defining these other things as intelligence, despite the fact that they're equally, if not more important. But, you know, everything from like artistic ability to fartistic ability, you know? You and I. Yeah.

You could be P.D. Pablo or Peter Griffin, you know, you could, like, remember when he did the farting with the song? Vigley. That's definitely there. That was my favorite scene when I was a kid was when he went into the, he went into the, the, the twelfth song and he's like, that's right. And I was like, yay!

I vividly remember that. I have a low intellectual ability by the way. I vividly remember that because it was in the Family Guy PS2 game, which was my first exposure to Family Guy. So when I went into the show, I'm like, will they have those little mini game control? Like the way they did the cutaways was like, okay, well, here's the cutaway from the show,

except it's a QuickTime event. But they would explain it. So it had like none of the pacing. and none of the humor. This reminds me of when I had to bury that vinyl record and then it's just a shot of Brian. You have to tap circle to bury vinyl record. And then it says, you did great.

Did I ever, I have to have said this on the show before. The first time I saw Family Guy was when I was in Washington, D.C. In the fifth grade on a safety patrol field trip. And I was in the, I was in a hotel with, I think, one of my elementary school classmates named David. And he brought a Playboy magazine. And I was like, what is that? Anyway, family guy is awesome

I think it rocks is lowest in there Yeah I just wasn't activated in that way I was more like this baby's got something to say His baby's cracking me up What the hell are you guys doing over there But anyway thanks for letting me Thanks for letting me wax and Wayne

It is I mean it is definitely maddening A lot of this stuff because like it's that annoying Like kind of neo-lib Financially conservative humanitarian progressive where it's yes some people are born better than others but I'm a good person because we the better people need to lift up the worst people the better people who just so happened to all look like Stanford grads yeah it's the weirdest thing yeah it's they come out with the polo on isn't that like ein-ran's whole thing and like this idea

There's just like a naturally better class of people and they need to be benevolent towards the uggos and idiots. So you are allowed to maintain your position of status and say why you can have it, but also at the same time if you write a really long boring book, you're actually smart or something. What does etymology nerd have to say about this? Is that what you were going to say?

I didn't want to take your... Anastasia, I didn't want to take the wind out of your sales. No, but I mean, you can say it. Okay, let's see what. We should probably see what etymology nerd has to say. I love him. I have actually been seeing a lot of hate posts about him. Why?

Just because people are like, it sucks to see etymology nerd become know your meme and stuff like that. Like he's because he's explaining more like internet stuff. I know, but he also does a lot of. And it's like, just because you talk fast doesn't mean you're smart. And it's like, okay, well, he talks fast. Like that's how he talks. I've learned a lot from him as I like him.

I like him. Why are we friends? You know what I mean? Well, it's like you're not allowed to like things Because everything has to have Like roughly I don't know After you had something good for about

Three to four months You have to pretend you never liked it That's right, yeah And oh, let alone if that person gets in trouble For something, I actually never liked them I actually never liked him And I knew he was bad And you turn into the LeBron lying meme

I remember I woke up today and I said This guy's gonna get in trouble one day Because damn's gonna score 83 These guys are bad vibes I can tell from that clip I don't think that normal people understand that Silicon Valley Tech Bros are genuinely doing everything to prepare for a mass unemployment event caused by artificial general intelligence. In their minds, half the population is about to be trapped in a permanent underclass where it's impossible to escape poverty, while the people who do succeed will be high agency individuals able to adapt to new circumstances.

This is dramatically affecting both Silicon Valley culture and the media you end up consuming because a lot of these tech pros are optimizing their agency by going viral at everybody else's expense. For example, this article did a great job of unpacking how those bullshit startup companies like Cluley got most of their valuations simply because their founders are willing to post. recklessly online and are therefore considered high agency enough to invest in. That shit annoys me so fucking much. Such a funny idea. And another thing that annoys me is that Moldbook just got acquired by Facebook. Yeah. But if I recall Motebook was just like a vibe code project that agents could like write to

the social network as if they were human, but then we found out that humans were writing all the most viral posts on there anyway. And that, uh, I don't understand. understand how that becomes a startup you acquire. Yeah, it's just more noise. I guess. Yeah, I'll start vibe coding this weekend and see if I can make like a cool website. It'll just call, it'll be called, uh, is AI, is it, is there an AI bubble and it'll return no. Hey, look at that.

Good news. Is there an underclass developing? No. No. Shut up. Shut up. The computer explodes. Yeah. All right. What does Mr. Nerd have to say? Whoa. Don't talk to Jake. Send your nerd. Sorry. Oh, yes. For considered high agency enough to invest in. The guiding tech philosophy right now is that this is kind of a gold rush and that you should just do things no matter the cost because that's the only way to become part of the permanent overclass. Tech has come up with historically so many excuses for just doing whatever they want. Just say you want to do that.

I don't care. It's so crazy that there always has to be some sort of impending doom because move fast and break things was just like a vibe back in the day. I don't know what happened. At some point in time, people got like a little taste of, maybe it's just that now people are more observed or whatever. People got a little taste of what it feels like to be like vindicated. Yeah. Being proud and vindicated feels really fucking good.

So now your company can't just like turn orphans into biofuel. You have to say it's for some kind of progressive. It's actually ethical to do so. I was looking back at the bookshelf. Somewhere around here, I have a, I have a copy of Alexis O'Hanian's book. because he spoke at Georgia Tech when I was there. And his book is called Without Their Permission. And I think I don't have it on the bookshelf somewhere.

But I thought it's funny to re-contextualize that for now because it's quite literally everything is being done without permission. Sorry, it's not here, I guess. They did a really good job. That's Dragon Ball. Right. Those are Dysen Shue. You're so close.

Those are Yu-Gi-O cards. That's giant rat, the Yu-Gi-Ci-Card. Though it might not be in English. Oh, it is an English. Giant Rat. Shout out to me. Shout out to me. Oh, yeah, this one.

They did a really good job of branding tech guys as like, like, revolutionaries and like, you know, kind of Wild West geniuses and stuff like that. It's like the cover of Wired and it's like a bunch of dudes in track jackets. And it's like the new elite. The new wild west of Silicon Valley. and it's Mark Zuckerberg crossing his arms in a like popped collar. I was huffing this so hard when I was younger. Like I remember, I think I've said this before on the show.

Like I turned 19 and I was like sad that I, like I didn't invent Facebook. Or I think I turned 20 and then I was like, damn, I didn't invent Facebook when I was 19. And that's like, that's like how that culture, that is kind of the mutation I'm talking about where it's just like eating. It's an orobore.

of like continually consuming itself until it's like this hyper extreme in everything it does. Like I remember there's this thing called the Teal Fellowship, which we didn't know as much about Peter Thiel back then. Just a cool guy, I think. Yeah. And I knew these people who, it was basically a fellowship where you would drop out of college and Peter Till would give you like $100,000 to fucking build, dude. Break fast. Dude, break, break fast and eat things. It's, wait, it's Ramadan right now, right?

Yeah, it is until March 19th. Ramadan Mubarak, my brothers and sisters. Break fast and eat things. Don't, or don't do that. That's a bad advice. Wait. That was a joke. Break slow.

There is something I remember about, because, like you said, like, when you're in it, when you're in the space, it really does feel it. It's intoxicating, right? Plus, if there's anything you don't like about it, you kind of go like, well, I must be crazy. So I think maybe I'll wait till I like it. I have that like, I vividly remember a moment maybe somewhere in my mid-20s where I suddenly realized that there is not anything impressive about being precocious. Like being a kid that is naturally really good at things is not impressive. You're naturally really good at things. Like being the biggest kid does, yeah, you'll be

best at basketball. They were two feet taller than every other kid. It's like the mastering the things that you're actually struggling with is the closest we have to merit, if anything is. But there is like that torture of like, oh my God, I'm turning 25. By 25 I was supposed to be able to do this thing. 26, this thing. Oh my God, Jesus died at 33. It's also like aptitude and also the like, I don't want to be one of those people talking about the like gifted kid syndrome or whatever, but it is what it is. Yeah, Jarvis and I have talked about before how, when we were younger, we thought we had to already know everything. And then as we got older, we saw people we admire ask questions and say like,

oh, yeah, I don't know about that. Bull have dodged. Like, just like, it's like my personality if I never saw that. Right. So much worse. Same. And it's like you realize, oh, this person, you know, admits when they're wrong and admits when they don't know stuff.

And people like them more than me. Wait a minute. Maybe I don't need to be like this. Then it actually is kind of a gift where you can gain knowledge through other people and have connections with people. That's the real life hack. Yeah, so much of like growing up is just somebody is realizing you don't have to do something. And not at a like, you don't have to be kind. You don't have to be polite.

It's that there's like a lot of it felt tired at least I can only speak for cis mask. Life Zone style. What was that last part? Life zone? Life zone style? Gangnam. I was fully on board until the last three words that I've never heard before. It's,

like, Einstein died penniless. The true geniuses are never understood in their own time. I don't think he did. Elon Musk doesn't have any money. That's actually the opposite of true. Like, you couldn't be more wrong. And he's an idiot.

Because he has the most money. Oh, uh. Let's finish up with Mr. Nerd here. Whoa. There's something about that. Lay off my guy. Lay off my fucking dude. He produces the podcast for us.

There we go. He's my Ben Shapiro because he's allowed to speak fast and it does mean he's smart. Yeah, he's going to full beat. Of course, this comes out of a flawed deterministic philosophy, which presupposes that AGI is imminent and that it will replace literally everything. And while we absolutely will see economic shifts coming up, that kind of thinking both underestimates what intelligence is and how much the average person dislikes AI. Nevertheless,

is now an additional incentive to manipulate our technology and communication in a way that harms other people, because nothing else matters if you're rushing to avoid NPC behavior. Yeah, it's like it feels like a blast shield to do nothing else matters behaviors. I mean, it's always such an easy out to say, well, sorry, nothing we can do about the system as it exists. I guess we'll just have to. As you're driving the system. Right. It's like you're driving the steamroller over the neighborhood.

You're one of the only people of like three digit number of people in the world who could be doing something to change it And it's like there is nothing I can do and it's like yes I am driving the steamroller I was already in it I was already in it and my foot is already on the gas Look the school I'm driving it into is it's like a mile and a half away I can't turn it's so close The direction of me the steamroller I mean I could be there within days you want me to try and break It completely ignores any sort of agency that the people, the leaders of this industry have to pump the brakes. It's not very disruptive. Yeah.

It's like it's a way of thinking about the world and actually a really unambitious way. Like how about break this systemic problem? No, no, no. When I say break things, I mean like misgender people in your office. When I said break things, I didn't mean pump the brakes. I meant like create a diversity and inclusion program. I didn't mean hire black people. Are you crazy?

Oh my God. No. It's like the Rooney Rule. It's like I just got to, I want to interview them. I don't have to fucking hire them. The Rooney Rule. That went down my spine when you said there. I remember that conversation so many times.

I remember people trying to explain it. Being constantly pitched as to why. The Rooney Rule is the you have to... Football coach thing. Wait. I were thinking of a different... You might be thinking of something else. Oh, no.

I'm sorry, I might be thinking someone else. Yeah, Rooney Rule is something from like the early 2000s in the NFL where they want... they instituted that you had to at least consider or interview one like black or one or two like minority identity people for like the role that you're hiring for with the goal being like that's what it'll take well well this is there's actually a really interesting parallel here because I am working off of my memory as a child watching like ESPN talking heads talk about this, but I could have sworn they used to talk about

quarterbacking and head coaching like it was so cerebral that black people couldn't do it. They didn't have the like faculties to conceive of this thing. They had Gavin Newsom's SAT school these idiots. Then Mike Tomlin comes in for the Steelers and like wins them a Super Bowl and I think 2008. And it's like to me black people took a collective like, whoo.

Because it's one of those things where it's like, Like, wow, like, it's kind of like you get such a short leash, you know, because... Don't give them this tool forever. It was like DEI before DEI. But there wasn't a entire political arm legislating or trying to legislate against it. So it was just like a thing. And it is this thing where it's like, yes, the best person should get the job. But many times we have these selection biases and lamp post fallacies of like where you are looking.

defines what you'll find. You know, it's like you'll look at the place under the lamp post because that's where the light is. And unless, and you will select from, so if your selection criteria is, there's like unconscious bias, I don't want to have to define these things like from the bottom up, but I will in this instance where it's like unconscious bias.

It's like the ways in which we subconsciously or unconsciously, bias against people from other backgrounds. So it's like there, there's a lot of like things that are baked into our society. Like, for example, women don't have leadership skills. In the tech industry, there's a lot of ageism, right? There's all this like fast moving technology. And if you're an older engineer, whoa, can an old dog learn new tricks? This is such a high skill profession.

There's no way that- What you say something like, like women, equates don't have leadership skills. What we mean, of course, is like the parameters for what a leadership skill is is often defined by men who have coded those to, a lot of times actually be kind of destructive behaviors, but like being really forward and intensive. And it's like, okay, well, if you hire a lot of time, if women get hired and then showcase that behavior,

the man that hired them then fire them because they find them intimidated. There's also a self-fulfilling prophecy and confirmation bias to it. Because like, if you just imagine like young boys and girls, boys blue, girls pink. If a boy is really adamant about something, he's exhibiting confidence in leadership skills. And if a girl does it, she's like being bratty or whatever. And like those types of things propagate and propagate and propagate.

And thus we unconsciously believe some things to be true and have blind spots. Like to process information as a human, we break that up. We use schemas. And those psychological schemas that we develop are not. perfect and they're not representative of the truth. You can see that with any like optical illusion where if I like tape a long strip of white paper to a faucet and play a sound of water like being poured, you'll think that the water is pouring. And then if you cut it with scissors, it like breaks your brain. Because our brain is processing so much visual stimuli. It needs to break it up.

It's processing so much oral stimuli. It needs to break it up and have very like chunk. It chunking is like what it's called, but like have chunks that that you like process. And as such, It like stands for reason that we would have shortcuts for how you like may judge a person based on how they look and That bakes in biases like that are like Like ingrained by society what you cannot no one can do the work to not have the unconscious biases It's what you that it's then whether or not you observe them. I think I mean Every workplace would have this work to fight against them right? Well you you should and that's the problem is obviously I'm than in those kind of working environments,

like you're saying, the people in the positions of power that would be hiring have a survivorship bias, because, well, I made it here, so there is merit at play, and I have this skill set, this person is not just playing this skill set. I'm, by the way, as one of the things that pisses me off the most about the general conversation about like, DEI, hmm, you hired a DEI pilot. It's never pilots saying it.

It is always speculation on the part of the most miserable clowns in the most like gross, stinky, deodorant-free recesses of the internet, because you haven't worked in an office. Of course you fucking haven't. Are you fucking kidding me? No, you haven't. You're just lopping as someone that would.

And like, this is how it would be if I was in the hiring process. I've done hiring. It's not what you think it is. It's like, you don't know anything. So when people talk about it in that way. It's impossible to find the quote-unquote best person for the job. There's no objectivity.

And you are, I had, And when I first did hiring, I was really young. Or like too young, I think, for at that point in my career to be ready for it. I was doing a resume reviewing and conducting interviews for someone I would be managing when I was 21. And so, anyone older than me, I was really concerned about. Because I'm like, well, they're not going to listen to me. They're older than me. That's going to make for a weird dynamic.

And there's not that many people younger than you that are qualified for the job. I did you, I need to, I cannot hire someone that is not intimate dating and is allowed to legally drink. Like that's, that's the cut off. But then I ended up, that was, I expressed it out loud to my manager at the time because I'm like, hey, this is like, I don't know how to approach this because I feel like it's maybe getting in the way a little bit of just the way I'm thinking. And they said, yep, and you now just have to be a little bit uncomfortable. Like, the solution here is not some secret third path where you find someone that's older than you, but I don't know, is a clone,

so they're only a day old or something. The solution is like, you have to, yeah, you have to hire somebody a little bit older than you, and it's going to feel weird, and sometimes you feel weird. But also this type of thing is why, like, some of these biases have, like, more legislation to them. Like, I believe it is a little.

legal to ask someone their age in the workplace? Like from an employer's standpoint? Like not as a co-worker or whatever. But yeah. Yeah. So it's like you're, yeah, I would, I would want to double check that. But it's like I know it's something you can't do. Yeah.

And so like for that reason, right? It's like because you could be biasing against someone based on their age. But obviously, if you know they graduated from university through these years, then you can like, like work backwards from that. But I had a. a professor in my grad school give me advice to not put any dates on my resume. And honestly, I'm like, yeah, why, who cares?

Yeah, but then there's a bias against that, depending on what the meta is for resume, because it's like, if you don't put your GPA on your resume, you assume the GPA's low. If you don't put the dates of something, then you assume it's not relevant or it's old. You know, it's like, and so it's really tough because even when you are trying to combat these, like, biases.

Like, one, here's a crazy resume one. Black people using, like, different names on their resumes. Like, I have a name that codes weird, where it's like, black people know that Jarvis is mostly a black first name and like a white last name. But for the most part, they just think I'm the computer from Iron Man. So I have like a, I've never like changed my name, but I totally understand why someone would. or go by a middle name or something like that. Everyone's picturing you as a white English butler.

Exactly. It's more a me name. And that works to my benefit when I'm applying for Stark Industries. And when you're in like an office environment where everybody is extremely huffing their own parts and intellect, intellect pilled or whatever, intellect maxing, then no one's questioning their biases because look where my biases have got me. Why the hell would I question my buy? We just raised millions of dollars. You crazy? Nothing we do can be bad.

I don't want trans people here. Yeah. I haven't been doing that so far. I've been excluding people from my workspace and look how much money I've made and this is perfect. Dude, my blood boys don't have a single problem with it. Yeah, having a quarterly office hours with your blood voice.

With your blood boy, yeah. I'm noticing your white blood cell account has been declining. I'm going to put you on a performance improvement plan. I need you to, oh my God, the pip. The pip voice, so, dude. Do you want to move on to something? Eyebrow check.

Something a little, I want to move on to something a little lighter, a little more fun. The fact that Donald Trump apparently just endorsed Jake Paul for some sort of office. Like just happened. I just read a little more about it. Oh, is it fake? He, um, Jake Paul's not running for office, but they were in Kentucky, which is right next to Ohio. And apparently Jake Paul's from Ohio. He is.

He does not live there. He lives in Puerto Rico. Which he hates. Also. Yeah. But that being said, Trump kind of blanket endorsed him for any office he might wish to run for in the future. That is so funny. Getting a little preemptive.

Like getting a co-sign on a loan. Didn't Erica Trump just get appointed to some government position? Oh, sorry, Erica Kirk. I said Erica Trump because of Trump. Eric Trump. Didn't Trump elect. Oh, my God. I forgot.

There's something actually we should talk about. um appointed Erica Kirk to Air Force Academy Board because she is very qualified for that talking about a fucking D-I pilot hiring this is Nepo pilot hiring best person for the job this woman knew one of my favorite podcasters yeah she knows everything about the air force His legacy of being on the Air Force board. Oh, having it at Miles. The American Historical Association has a lawsuit with the NEH,

where they're, the National Endowment of the Humanities, and they are deposing Doge people right now, and one of them was about like removing grant funding for, used CHAPT to analyze and cancel federal national endowment for the humanities grants, deemed to be DEI. As part of this process, Doe staffers flagged and terminated a documentary focusing on slave labor of Jewish women during the Holocaust.

And then in the deposition, the guys like, we identified it to be DEI. And he's like, how would you define DEI? And then he dodges the question, dodges the question. And then later is like, calls it DEI because it's female based. Yeah, that's true. And it's like. Fair enough. It's.

And so, yeah. It's just, dude, it's a wild. It's, it just, it must be confusing because these people are operating in a circle where you, um, You do things for the most cynical reasons all the time. So it's kind of like if we got invited to a house party and then they were like, hey, you know, it's just kind of a thing. I'm like, oh, okay, not all that invested in what's going on. We turn up.

It's kind of a mess. A bunch of people have broken a bunch of windows. And we're like, I'm just going to go home. This seems weird. I don't know these people. I can't really help, but that's kind of strange. And then we go to jail. They were like, what?

I thought we were just turning up to take free food and then leave. What the hell is going on? But speaking of meritocracies in DEI, the best person for the job, Kai Trump's 18-year-old granddaughter did just make a video called, I took my secret service to Arrow on. Real thing. Huh. What a fascinating number of keywords combined together?

Why am I, I'm, Kai Trump? Who is this? Granddaughter. I'm learning about all these new Trumps and I hate it. Wait, how's Kai Spoke? Because that's stealing non-binary valid. being called Kai. Are we going to watch this?

Is this a real image? Yeah, I wasn't joking. This is all... Sorry, there's just something about this. Not to be one of those guys, but this looks like slop. It's shot like that. It's like that shot from Jaws.

Why does it look so bad? Welcome back to the channel. Right now, we are in Airwan, which is in LA. This is to be in the Airwaw video and everything I get from Airwan. If you guys don't know Airwan, Airwant's the most expensive grocery store.

I'm sorry to already go back. Can we just go back to that map again, Rogg? Have you guys spotted anything weird about this map? Yeah, why didn't she, first of all? It includes a weird selection of places. The key areas of the LA County they've highlighted, it's Pasadena, sure, Long Beach, sure, Irvine, sure, Whole Foods Market, and then Whole Foods Market.

Yeah, there's two Whole Foods Market. And Airw on. Also, nowhere does it say L.A. and why couldn't you zoom in more? What did you look up? I don't understand. There's like 15 error one. Yeah.

I don't, I literally don't know how to do this. Like, how is it they get only those? This is for sure Photoshop and then labels we're getting in the way. So they start taking away stuff. It makes it look like the Valley, like the Whole Foods Market is like the size of Santa Clarita. I don't necessarily want to roast this 18 year old, but I do want to point out, that it's absurd that this is allowed to happen. Yeah.

That's the issue that I have because what, like, Secret Service costs like $250K a day. Yeah, we're paying for this video. Yeah. No one knows who you are. Until that. What's the Secret Service, oh, I guess now she's YouTube famous.

No, what's crazy is now there's, like, fan cams. So that's how you know. No, no, she's famous, respect. Yeah, no respect. No respect. No respect. Okay, but anyway, I don't even know what happens in this video. I just know.

Is she gonna complain about the cost of living related to Arawan? No, I don't think that's possible. No, she was excited that it's the most expensive place. I think she's just stoked to drink the Haley Bieber smoothie. Oh, I see. She would say, and maybe feed it to like a Secret Service agent. She said, I do all my shopping at Air One. It's the most expensive place.

If you do, I know, I love that. No, I think she's visiting Arawan specifically, which would be hilarious if they flew on Air Force One. To the parking lot of Airwans. Everything's crazy expensive. So we're gonna get my favorite stuff. Which matter, which means something. to you because like that's good or bad.

Cause like does expensive, what does expensive mean to like a billionaire's family? So her, she's excited about it. These seems like these types of people are always so bad at making lists. She said, we're gonna get my favorite stuff, maybe even some supplements or whatever it may be. You're gonna be my anger translator because you're closer to her age. And so I, it's not bullying when you do it.

And you're upset about it. You're upset about non-binary stolen valor, so that also activates you. Do you think there's something that like breaks in your brain if you spend all of your life amongst employees that can't say no to you about anything and have to laugh at everything you say? So when you, everything she's going to say, literally has to take a bullet for you. She's going to think everything she does is articulate because she says nonsense. And then someone who like is killed if they don't help her. It was like, that is. Now I don't, that made no sense.

But you make a really good point. You know what I mean? Wow, that's so true. What do you want? I did see something else. It was like a story of hers, like was on an aircraft carrier. And it was like leaked some information about like Iran war shit. It's all awesome.

Was the video called I'm worthless, but so is this. Everything is so cool right now. inexpensive, which I love. An aircraft carrier is kind of like the extended Trump community, because they drain billions of dollars from the country, serve no purpose whatsoever, and every now and then they just are destroyed and it costs even more money.

Who is this for? Because like when you think of, like, are there? Yeah, there are. So the children of MAGA parents, if the kids are also. Children of MAGA sounds insane. Quote, quote, we are the children of MAGA. The clan was too.

The teens are also quote unquote MAGA, which I don't want to call them that because they're not, they haven't formed their own opinions. Yeah. But I would say it the same. But I see young people being interested in this. Yeah, they're watching her because she's a Trump. And so now these teens are. So the teams of MAGA parents are now being influenced by. I don't even think it's MAGA teens watching this.

I think they're all MAGA. I actually think the people making. Yeah. I think the people making fan cams aren't even MAGA. They just think she's pretty. They're kind of like, Maga teens like kind of, they're not a thing in the same way that you have like

establishment conservative kids. You know what I mean? Like, well, my parents voted that and then voted, voted, voted. Like, it's something you have to be pretty proactive about. I think this is just normies. Like, and there's nothing wrong with being a normie. But to most people, the thing, the number one thing you think about Trump is that he is the president.

Yeah. Everything, all of the critiques or otherwise go out the window, it's just like, yeah, oh, that's the guy that's the president. It's essentially like he's the king and then you're like, oh, there's there's princess girl and that's fun. So she must be interesting. There's like nothing inherently bad. It's like Trump does something bad. And then they go, I don't like that thing that Trump did. But there's no instinct to be like to question authority.

Yeah, I just thought, cool. I just thought the concept of this video existing was insane. Yeah, I agree. What does she do with? Yeah, let's find out. We can skip it. Also, what's the most, what's the top comment? Oh, okay.

That's pretty. Oh, wow. I'm surprised they have comments on, to be honest. Well, here's the thing. I actually don't know how I feel about this. Well, I know I don't like it, but it's interesting because I'm like, I'm like these people. I'm like, this is, we're looking at a, they're complaining at the symptom. You know what I mean?

Yes. Of all of this stuff. Guy doesn't even have the login information for this account. Right. It's like, like she just got a partial download for Sindians. I mean, I have a, she could tag it. I'll, I mean, probably has been for a while because. It's the tax on having infinite money is sorry we don't have to be nice to you.

No, no, no. I mean, absolutely. But speaking of people, we should be nice to. I mean, we can skip ahead to see if the Secret Service guy drinks to college in Merckhake. on, yeah, can we just like scroll through and see if we can see a secret service person? I think she like, I think she like, I don't know how she interacts with them. The Secret Service guy drinks the College and Milkshakes. Yeah, that's what I'm here for.

That's what I want to know. Where are they? The secret, I guess. Do you think one of them's filming? There's the College of Milkshake, the Haley Bieber. Where the hell is the Secret Service at? Yeah, I'm like not seeing any. Right, sorry.

The one with a boom mic. Yeah. Oh my God, if her- Are you fucking kidding me. They're like Instagram boyfriends. Okay, so there must be rules. I wonder if there's rules where she can't. Oh, yeah, sorry.

Because I have to imagine she has handlers on top of Secret Service. I, like, 100% would not, if I were Secret Service, I don't want to be on camera. If I would feel like it's a target, you know. She was just joking. I'm going to have to file for bankruptcy. You don't have any money. Talking about peptides. Oh, God.

You don't use your own. That's a whole other thing. Yeah, peptides is a whole other. Chinese peptides. Oh, yeah. Imagine that's the only thing Jacob says all up to say. This is what we need to sound for. Chinese peptides.

Chinese peptides. Okay, well, there's no secret service, so I'm out. And then speaking of people who we should feel sorry for, clavicular is in the news. Because speaking of fan cams also, he, he craw, oh, I can send you the clip. Is this going to be another story about him getting mob? Well, here's the thing.

By a hamburger? Clavicular Cheeseburger, just even reading it. I just, I feel like I'm a, it feels like I'm being sedated by it, do you know what I mean? Like reading it does psychic damage. Um. What? Is he crying?

No. I didn't know he could do that. Sin clips. Oh good, now I know who put this together. So, so. I guess he like without words. He just had cheese on his burger and cried because of it. And it's actually going super viral and people are making.

Is he hungry? You have to understand how many hormones he's on. Yeah, that's true. I guess it's very easy to be emotional. Like I'm actually- He has a petri dish right now. You know, whatever. He's done this to himself and it's fine.

But he injects himself with so much random shit that I bet he cries very easy. and like is a kind of hormonally messed up. I've really unbalanced for sure. I mean, not to mention there's always going to be the natural self-selecting bias of people that choose to live stream their entire life. Like the most normal people, most normal livestreamers that we personally know are a bunch of freaks. I don't, plenty of very good friends. You, the freak base. You cannot get into that lifestyle if you are not operating at freak by default.

at Freak by default. Yeah. Anything up from there. I'm almost in your little thing. The one I'm, wait, can you look at the, I think that's just the, I'm not, yeah, that's just the clip, sorry. The one I just sent has 88,000 likes on TikTok. Vick you're crying over that burger having cheese is like the hottest thing I've seen in

2026 so far. Sin Clift. Is that on all of them? What? Hold on. I mean, I think that was a little ad. I think it was an 8.1. Not bad.

I mean, but it's also like, isn't he the LeBron of this community? Like, he's an 8.1? I don't even think, I think he's less the LeBron and more just like the guy who's popularizing it. He's the avatar. He's the avatar, yeah.

I mean, right now, I would say he's the Bamadabio. Yeah, well, Bambahadabio is 83. 8.3. 8.3. Anyway, we'll talk about BAM out of my escrowy, 83 points, and other things also over on South Boys Nights, which is our Patreon podcast hosted by two particularly palpable pals. We got lots of stuff to talk about. Today was long and we're sorry, but then also we love you and we're sorry.

And also there's more where that came from. And also, there's more gin and rum. And also, I've got an improv. And also, if you are in the market for a fun time. I am going to be the monologist at an improv show at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles, California, on Friday, March 13th at 7.30 p.m., but it's also available on stream. So you can purchase tickets. I'll link in the description. And if you're seeing this later, because obviously it's the day this goes out, but no worries.

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