Sad Boyz - Alpha Male Friendship Course

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Jarvis and Jordan are back in the USA! We discuss a John Wick-themed grappling event, Druski's recent viral stunt at NASCAR, and a new way for guys to hug without it being gay! Sad Boyz Nightz #129 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon ✨find us everywhere✨ 00:00:00 Welcome To Sad Boyz! 00:07:26 Changing your name 00:12:24 British Hamilton 00:14:57 Sad Boyz Nightz 00:18:14 Gift Exchange 00:23:06 John Wick Invitational 00:31:59 Embarrassing Jackets 00:36:24 White Druski 00:43:18 Competitive Hugging 01:11:24 Sad Boyz Nightz 🎬 CREW 🎬 Hosted by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan Adika Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda Produced by Anastasia Vigo Thumbnail design by @yungmcskrt Outro music by @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Sad Boys, Podcast About Feelings, and other things also. I'm Jarvis. You're reading a book. Is this a bad time? This is... I heard something was going on with... This is... Step into reading Taylor Swift.

Yeah, I heard something was going on with, like, a wedding or something. Yeah, it's not going to be printed in the book. Yeah, tell me about it. This says preschool to grade one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it is? You know what's confusing me? I thought this was my phone.

what this is is a birthday gift I got for someone for a party that I flake that I did and I just found in my bag a second a hi hello by the way hey I'm back in you're back hello it's not AI one second you this is not a good time to be here how long could it possibly take to read that book so you got back to America not a very good and thought I need to learn about America's sweethearts I mean now that now I just feel Royalty You can't hand me the book Okay

But you won't even know So first of all It's texture It's a multimedia cover which is kind of nice A random house I know you were wondering this Did Did publish this

Taylor Swift was born on December 13th in 1989 Like the album In Pennsylvania December 13th is the day before my brother Taylor grew up with her parents And her younger brother They lived on a Christmas tree farm

I wish I was old enough to read this Also, what a great, what a great, like, children's book backdrop. Christmas tree farm is, like, a thing I'd make up. Oh, Christmas tree farm is, like, a lifetime movie or a Hallmark movie. I've got to get out of here. I'm all business, business, business. I'm moving to a Christmas tree farm in a vineyard. Taylor helped around the farm.

She rode horses. She acted in plays, and she wrote poems. I don't, that doesn't sound like helping. Taylor loved writing. She won an award for her poetry. Relax. Chill out. So I could have done that.

Taylor also loved music, a country. songs were her favorite and then she's got a dolly parton poster and a shanaia twain poster this one looks like she's at like a democratic national convention i well i did almost buy the hillary one but i got to say famed LGBTQ icon oh that's right sorry the context for that the context for that is that we were in london at the tape modern that the tape modern gift shop and there was a book of speeches that were do you remember what the book was titled it was something about like the greatest LGBTQ plus speeches of all time

in like modern history and I flipped to a random page and it was Hillary Clinton and she it was it literally here and being like dude being gay is like actually okay sometimes I'm so fine I would be more than willing to allow you to do that I'm not even upset not in the army

so funny if you flip to a page and it was Hillary Clinton and then the part where the speech speech is blank oh it would have been so funny it's Hillary Clinton saying hello and then just a big my favorite one of these I tend to buy these impulsive from the same store comic book store

slash pinball place that we go to they sell that series I will buy those on it impulsive if it's somebody's birthday coming up the best one to date is I got Ethan Nesta the Princess Diana one

that's funny which wraps up with like and then fucking something well is there something happened time will tell how this story is

it literally goes from like and she loved to ice skate when she died the end Oh, that's like a huge Taylor wanted to follow her dreams Her family wanted to help They moved to Nashville, Tennessee

There were lots of music studios there Taylor got a music deal Wow, they jumped That was crazy same day Yeah Okay So I'm gonna tell you The first sentence on the page

And you're gonna guess The last sentence on the next page Okay So because basically it's the beginning and end of a story So the last one was Taylor wanted to follow her dreams And then Taylor got a music deal

okay so so this one starts Taylor released her first album every it did really well you got a Grammy it won album of a year um wait this is this is this is propaganda well for a future president Taylor became famous her fans called themselves I think she was famous before she went out of the year that helped yeah her fans called themselves Swifties they love Taylor and she loves them Taylor's fans want to know all about her and then the wildest two sentences I've read so far she hides codes in her album for them to find

the codes give hints about her life okay that is genuinely irresponsible I agree I agree in a learning to read book that is a that's like prompting a subreddit to find out where you live literally it's a crazy thing to write okay Taylor kept trying to think have you can you see that You can't see it. No, no.

Taylor kept trying new things. She released her first pop album. Nice. All right. What's the last? It won album of the year. Yeah. It won album.

No, it was her biggest hit yet. That was kind of like big the album of the year. I was going to say Nobel Peace Prize. And at this point, Taylor became a role model. Oh, brilliant. Not any time before that. That's good news. Oh my God.

Look at the other options. These are all the ones by the same author. Monster. My little golden book about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. What's the part? where she refused to leave her post? I did pick up one that was about Rosa Parks. Not a kid's read, turns out.

It's just a graphic novel with a lot of pretty gritty details and the gift I just kept it. So you're back in the U.S. And she's getting married. Coincidence? She was waiting for you to come back so that she could invite you to the wedding. I was running the subredits that were saying that both of them were gay and I was because I was away. they were able to get married because I wasn't on them covering it there is the gay lores as they call them thank you the gay taylor fans oh that's not what they are no that's not what they are they think

she's yeah that's it's it's weird much weirder yeah well peeler leaves codes in her music so that is i would actively oppose putting that in the book i agree it's bait for crazy well that's the thing It's like, I actually think that the concept of something like this where it's like meet kids where they are, give them a reading material for their interests. I actually am very pro that. It is funny that you have to get to level three to read about Michelle Obama. You couldn't get it. But the gailers were going off at the announcement of her engagement saying that she didn't believe it.

she's being forced. It was really, like, alarming. I also, it was kind of the moment that I realized that that wasn't a bit. Right. Me too. Yeah. Well, do you think it's one of those things that, like, gets, like, memetic traction because it's so, such a wild subreddit to exist or something.

And then as the smoke clears, you realize a bunch of the people would, like, no, no, no, I'm really here. I like the smoke. Yeah. Oh, oh, I didn't, I thought we would kind of joke it. Oh, no. I bet there was part some people who were joking like who were like oh this is fun yeah and then there's like the super fans that like need to chill I saw a TikTok of someone that was like

I legally changed my name to first name middle name Taylor last name because of Taylor Swift and like was like showing their like certificate that said their legal name and then they were like also if anyone can like tell Taylor about this I don't know if she knows that I did this yet But if we can get that, like, the word to her, well, I'm like, no, why would she know that, first of all? And why did you do that? Also, like, she didn't change the name to Taylor Swift. Right.

It is just the name Taylor. I think not being patient enough to have a kid to give a middle name. Yeah. Like, I want to be Calisi now. Yeah. Shout out to you if you're a Dineris. Your parents were just really into the show. I did have a friend, my college roommate, a freshman year,

did while like that year when he turned 18 he changed his middle name and I don't want to tell you I don't want to dox him right because this is a unique name but it is kind of like changing your name from like Powell how like Power Ranger oh you're talking about Steve Power Ranger yeah well I didn't want to dox him Great, brilliant. Now I'm telling Zodon. I do think that's so interesting. Rangers.

That's my Zorodon impression. You change your name. That's weird. I think that is going to be, I don't think people realize the amount of hassle you have to go through after you change your name. Because... Does they still have to go in a newspaper or something?

I don't think so. But there are so many legal documents where it says, have you ever had a previous name? Yeah. And then you have to prove it. It's truly a nightmare. It's truly, my mom had to go through it after my parents' divorce, and she was becoming a citizen. And it was just like, every step of the way, they'd be like, this isn't you.

She's like, yeah, I changed my name. I will say, I'm on the grand narrative, the prodigal son returning to the land of the free, hope nothing political happened at the time I was gone. the things I would get anxious about for people who don't know as a way specifically to renew the visa that I'm currently on and that requires doing the exact same thing I did last time with it's it's I can't pretend that I'm not just anxious by design like it is a scary feeling for sure but the truth is is that my situation now is a lot safer and more reliable than it used to be and this was

this was rock climbing with ropes like I fall there's everything there Jarvis catches me save me uh hold you like a baby kiss you on the floor like a baby I fall asleep but it's because I'm rocking you this okay well

this is why I'm tattooing on this baby how to fucking throw up in somewhere else I know I shouldn't get that I don't you know in truth it's still like intuitively the whole time I was getting ready for the visa appointment, all that stuff. I was anxious, but far less so.

You guys came out to visit me, which really, really helped. You guys watched all those episodes of us. You checked us out doing it. But I do want to say thank you to all of you. And also nice messages I was getting for people in general that I cannot emphasize how much less anxious during the entire trip I was. I was more anxious about the trip coming up. But now that I'm home, the amount of paperwork, the amount of times I would like email the visa

lawyers or read a absolutely worthless Reddit thread or core it tells you he loves posting about visas 15 years ago as Cora they love checking in and going like hey is this did anything change and there'll be a new reply saying any updates and someone to say curious no reply uh I have wrote Jordan Adika when there was a question about have you ever gone by any other names oh digger is my middle name my last name I put that there your mother lawyers and they were like well that's but that's in your name I'm like right yeah but what if they also but a Jordan by any other name

it's just as sweet right do you like me I don't I cannot emphasize to you how many fucking moments there are in visa related paperwork which seem like they could be pivotal and then you go to the interview

and they go like what was it Jan Ron Jordan right what's the podcast were you doing hey man how was your day I'm like do you know did I put the right name like Who was the best president?

Who are you thinking? Yours, the big one. Hey, man. Main one. Hell you. Feels weird when it's a British person at the embassy. I'll be honest with you. When they're doing the interview.

Oh. I did not expect that. I thought it'd be an American embassy worker. I don't know how I feel about it. That was like going to see Hamilton in the UK. We did do that. Or you're not throwing away my shot. The audience was popping for hating.

They loved George, dude. King George came out and they were like, that's our fucking dude. dude a royal theater he's crazy he'll be back i hope not getting it it's interesting we hear the thing like they changed a couple lines yeah it's general knowledge that americans probably learned in school but british people why would they learn this and so we're still sulking uh the line where uh they say like uh angelica tell this man john adams spends is somewhere with this family it's normally angelica tell my wife john adams doesn't have a real job anyway but they said angelica tell my wife

vice president isn't a real job anyway because they wouldn't know that Don Adams was the vice president. They also didn't say Weehawken at all. They didn't say Weehawk in Don. They said New Jersey. Jersey. It's like, why would a British person know Weehawken at all right? I just don't

think that even transposing it to Jersey is going to give them the like reference point. I'd assume it was just somewhere in America. Right. I was going to say like, isn't there all kinds of shit in place that I don't understand? Well, yeah, I don't know that it needs to be changed at So where's the Phantom of the Opera? He's here inside my mind.

Ah, the Phantom of Jersey. Finally something my American mind can comprehend. They change the lyrics to the Phantom of the Theater. Say what? I didn't know what Weehawken was until it was in Hamilton. I didn't know what president was. I didn't know who's Washington? I knew about it, but only because it has a funny name.

It does. Good for jokes. That's how I know about Schenectady. Yeah. Because it's good for jokes and it's a real place. Washington? Yeah. Hell yeah.

Oh, that sounds cool. I guess I should probably have gone up in American history at some point if I ever intend to take the citizenship exam, don't know. We can teach you. We can learn together. We can take Crash Course History, World History and U.S. history by John Green, friend of the show, who said that he'll come on the show when he's in L.A. But hasn't been in L.A. since we started the podcast. He's deliberately avoided L.A. I wonder if I have access to any of my old quizlets.

You know, a friend of mine became a citizen and I bought flashcards that. like specifically for the citizenship test. To hold up at the interview. It's like he's fast. He wears red. I'm sorry. I can find that. These are my the flash card.

Shoot. But sincerely, we love you. We're so excited. You're back. And yeah, it's, it's cool to be all together again. So we did just record our Patreon exclusive podcast, Sabboys, nights. And I remembered something that I wanted to talk about on there that we might have to record an emergency bolted on to nights

because while we were in London Oh I know what this is I always got to an altercation I always got to an altercation where not my life but your life flashed before my eyes because I didn't want to create any

reasons that anyone could get in trouble but oh me and a Britishman we just this guy I don't know you know I'll be a countryman. The guy was just living his life doing what any of us would do, plowing through a pedestrian area. Oh, yeah.

Virtue signaling as a runner. Oh, yeah. He was, yeah, because look, I'm pro runner. But if you're running in a touristy area, if you're running a Buckingham Palace. In like Lycra that you'd wear for a Tour de France. Yeah. Then you're making that about you. You're peaking off.

It is absolutely for that There's so much space It is so much worse to navigate I choose to not go to tourist areas Because of how annoying they are to walk I can see Yeah So if I'm choosing to

So we were at Spittlefield's Market In London We were right outside About to look For what like tube stop We're gonna go to get back to wherever we're going We're at walking speed Like you would on like a side wall

Well, we stopped. We'd, like, paused off to, like, next to the curb for what it's worth, like, where a, like, a newspaper stand would be. And so, because there's the, you know, as a courteous citizen, you think, I'm not going to stand in the middle of the way I'm going to get off the beaten path, right? So, other people can beat this path. So, like, Jordan and I are next to each other except for reversed, so I'm on the left. It was fucked. And a guy just like barrels through us like the fucking armored titan. I'm Gate Maria.

Yeah. And he literally like like kind of, and look, I have a worm in my brain where I can't let people be assholes and not tell them that they're being an asshole. Even if I do it in the most non-confrontational way, I will call it out. and I'll tell I'll finish telling the story on our Patriotic Susa podcast Sabboys Nights you were in that moment

a paladin you a vengeance paladin it had to it was against your principles to not tell there's so much so much anger I held in I could hear the gears turning

before because you were perfectly still before lightning summoned around your feet and you burst into a sprint okay so the only good reason to be running on sidewalk, by the way. So, yeah, I do burst into a sprint and, uh... Don't run into anyone, then. Okay, we just, uh, broke to rant a little bit. So we added more

to Sad Boys Nights. We're high adrenaline now. We're full of rage. Oh, we're full of rage. But, uh, I'll break that rage with a bit of a gift. There was something that I, I, I, there's a story, and I'll tell you the story, but it took a long time. And it was something I meant to bring to London, but I forgot. Uh, so, Jordan, I need you to close your eyes. Oh. And if you close your eyes... Would everyone go? Hold your hand out. All right, you can look now.

So you told me that when you were a swimmer... You told me that when you were a swimmer, you never got... You never got the patches. Dude, yes. So I got... I found the Kellogg's patches for swimming. There's a...

You can open them up. I was like, if I opened it, I was going to just... This is fucking sick. Okay. For those who don't remember or never saw us talk about it or didn't grow up in the glorious kingdom of Lizzie. Hope she's all right. In school, if you do the swimming stuff, you know, water-based stuff. A guy who's done like sports before.

Yeah, me, a guy that knows what water is. Oh, the wet sport kind, whatever it's called. There is a little badges you get officially sponsored by Kellogg's. Frosties of Frosted Flakes. We talked about this like six months ago. but what happened was I went on eBay and I bought some and then it was lost by Royal Post and the seller was like the seller was like you'll have to take it up with Royal Post and I was like I'm absolutely not going to do that so I found a U.S.-based seller for this.

I'm going to sign myself a comfortable level nine you know I'm not I'm not an arrogant guy yeah Yes. See, okay, so this is the stuff. This right here, 50 meter, solid. Now, choosing anything higher for me personally, stolen valor. I think if I would choose anything higher, I do not recall doing a level higher than that. But you know, now that you mention it, I should take a higher one. Of course, aspirational. Implied. Oh, my God. One mile, too easy. Did that 10 times in one minute. Yeah, two seconds, actually. I don't actually know what these are. What are these? And these are the swimming challenge award. I think these might be. like older than my day because they look very yeah that looks but it's very well I do love a good patch like these look very well made not a sticker not a plaque but like a proper this is military grade yeah this is so sick oh a bronze um yeah that can never happen I don't even know what that is oh this one just just says water skills I have those four water skills for I love that game it's when you can sniff drink it look at it yeah how many water skills do you I can bend it.

Oh, dude, this is sick, thank you. I wonder if, uh, were they just deserving children that never got their frigid national spreege? Yeah, well, those, specifically I asked for a video of them stealing them from deserving children. He was stolen. Yeah. Oh, man, that's so nostalgic.

It's funny the things you hold on to. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I love gifts that are like a thing you would never get for yourself, but like would bring you joy or bring a little, a little brain chemical that you didn't know you needed. I did bring you. something, but it's just something I saw the other day. I put it in my

bag, so I wouldn't forget. In case you ever need power in between episodes of the podcast, I got you Sanzi beans. Yo! Which I guess they just have at World Market. That's so funny. I'm surprised that I haven't

seen this product before now. Right? With the market. I do wonder, like... I think it's hard. Hey, on. Beat me up. I was like, is this going to be like... Is this a Dragon Ball thing? Semptu beans? I'm like... Don't look.

Come in me like that. Mums would never understand. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's a dragon ball thing. Braid you don't even know. Braid you don't even know who Gojita is. These are, this is not the canon color for Sintu beans. They're more of like a lima bean.

You know that. Well, Anastasia knows. Is it chocolate? Or is it gummy? Are you going... I became Jordan. Is it sour? No, it's sweet.

But... Is it giving you power? Whoa. You look sad. I go here, Anastasia, you try. Like, splits your head in half. Well, but you were quick. Go straight through my eyeball.

I can't continue talking and eat this hard candy, because I can't chew it, because I'm not Jordan. I don't, there are, there are millions of us. You have candy chewers? Super saying teeth, right? That's what you're a big one is for. Don't pretend you know You don't know

I don't know anything Thank fan All right So that's that's that Should we do Suit Jutsu now? Yeah let's look at Let's watch some of this

So this is something That Researcher Haley sent I immediately thought of Jordan And I enrolled you I'm kidding I didn't You're actually taking a nine week course

Yeah you're taking a nine week Suit Jutsu course Okay so there's a gun on the floor in the ring just no I also don't know what this is okay oh shit so that man was not really shot no he was killed so there's this like specific type of ring um they tend to be a little bigger but yeah these like concave edge rings is specifically for jujitsu and only the grappling element so there's no like mMA no punching none of that it's been getting very popular lately the UFC now has its own official version

but Jiu-Jitsu historically you would do in a gie and so it would be a lot of like grabbing of the clothing and stuff that's kind of gone out of the window I feel like in like lots of pop culture because it's associated

with UFC this they've brought it back what's the modern version of a martial arts gey it is a John Wick suit yeah this is very just doing grapple grappling with a fake gun that also there's a

you're in a John Wicks So I assume just from watching these videos that the whole point here we can watch more just what we've got to watch more 12 seconds is not enough for me It's a regular

I think the whole point is to stop your opponent from getting the gun Like all those scenes in those movies You get the gun in yourself And then you have to put the gun to your opponent's head I think is what it is

Well, that guy shot in the bat. Whoa. Yeah, I guess I don't. The idea, I know, um, the gun is not a, it's, that's, is that slime? He's cocking it. Oh, God. It's slime and aiding. Yeah.

The gun's not initially in the ringer. They throw it in after a minute or so. Oh, like the golden snitch. It's gone halfway through the game. You can, uh, finish in like a regular submission. I want it to be like laser tag where you have a sensor on your head, but I don't think that's what's happening. Also, I hate that these. men are wearing cleaning the gun that's very funny but they're just wearing socks they're just wearing socks

what do you mean well because they because they're grappling they're in suits yeah and it's rude and they just walked inside my house so what i don't care if you're in a suit you're going to take off your shoes like everyone else why is there a cowboy hat oh a knife oh wow oh i think the cowboy hat might be a member of the audience now what if your opponent is like nope you didn't shoe me that's what they play the playground rules like how do how do what no no you didn't get me I had a force field like Johnwick I well yeah because so that and to avoid that you just use a real gun yeah we should explain to this oh I didn't shoot you will tell me why you're dead right now how's the force field so Jordan look at the name of this account hit boss grappler oh that's actually

my account yeah I thought it might be you I'm sorry I was saying it wasn't pit ass overtime count no no sorry In the past, I've claimed that my name name is Road Dog. I'm now remembering it is the pit boss. What? Okay, hold on. It's home of suit Jutsu, gun Jutsu, and Knife Jitsu. Jitsu, not Jitsu, sorry. Oh, Jitsu, not Jitsu. Sorry, I'm

Jitsu Kaysen. I was like, I'm Naruto-coded. I mean, it feels like Knife Jitsu kind of over pretty quick. That's not a lot of like not that's a play with with that one. What does J.W.I stand for?

Because it says home of J.W.I. Oh, I don't know. I want to be the next J.W.I. Oh, really? So maybe that's the... John Wick. Oh, no. John Wick International. Oh.

Yeah, what does it stand for? It must be, right? I feel like if they never say it, it's because it's John Wick and they don't want to get in trouble. Yeah, I think that's true. In retrospect now, I do think as a kid, I might have been like... more interested in like competitive sport

I was I was very shy with like I was always like very uncomfortable like tackling or like taking the ball or like there's something like they're trying to play basketball too like I don't want to take the ball off of them wait a second fire versus PD

oh that's one of them gets a hose okay regular well okay so he's got a gun he's got a I guess a firefighter's gun guys they're just doing regular role grappling whoa yeah

but until funny uniform please someone said the fact that both sides train is dope I like the idea of them being on opposing sides the heroes and the villains I'll let you choose okay so they never wear the uniforms and that was just fucking clickbait bro

is this actual firefighters I think they're just actual firefighters and cops okay it's kind of like how the military has football teams for some reason yeah true Army versus Navy game Yeah, we used to go see Army versus Navy

That I mean that doesn't seem fair Because one of them's based on land You can't swim That guy's name is Sean Wick That's got a Sean Wick We're gonna find out What's your JWI record?

Two kills No deaths Why? Well yeah you would assume no death Don't pretend to be sheep That was the worst We have the line that I've ever been It is the John Wick

invitation. Yeah, that makes sense. Bobby Yama division. Okay, here's the thing. It's fun to dabble in a little bit of John Wicklaping as a joke because ultimately it's very silly. Yes. Now, if you're going to do literally me style stuff, like Fight Club poster in the bedroom wall,

the American Psycho is actually about the world's coolest guy. Yeah. You aren't, look, it shouldn't be up to me, but you aren't allowed to have John Wick. you have to remember what irony is and describe it one time in order to be allowed to enjoy John Wick because if you wear... Wester's Dictionary describes

defines irony as I do think they have to admit this is LARPing. Like that's the other thing is like you can't look at someone dressing up as knights and queens and stuff and make fun of them. Because you are dressing up as your favorite character as well.

I feel the same way about like football jerseys a dad just wearing a like manning jersey you're in cosplay yeah for sure is it because he's your favorite are you wearing your favorite one i mean i'm in his dress i'm wearing i'm just like Peyton he's my favorite guy I love American football than I I love him it so so oh my god that guy's dead this comment they all watch John Wick multiple times it seems same as me home. I love that. I love that guy. That's funny because I thought maybe that guy had only watched it once. Wait a second. That guy, the guy above his name is Tim John Un and he's got

what's his face? He's got freaking Shane Gillis's his. This guy, he's hitting not everything. He goes, what is hell? Period. Oh, shout out to the, um, the libertarian on, uh, the weird libertarian grope on Twitter recently that used a react image of my face. and doesn't follow me. So that's exciting because I assume on a Discord chat somewhere where you argue about the age of consent, you're using my image to be like, hmm, me, thanks, something about it.

I think about this kind of stuff a lot where I'm like, what is the part of me that, where this is off-putting, like what little part of my brain? And I think it is the dude-lopping element. Like I want people who enjoy things and have a good time. But the moment he's like, so knife or gun, and he like flashes his little holster, The moment that happens, I'm just like, no, no, no, no, no, don't take it seriously, please.

I've thought before, I've been, like, watching my little films, and I've thought, you know what, it'd be fun to take a stage combat class, you know, it's like, you know, you're fake fighting. Yeah. But, like, doing all of the sort of John Wick, Jackie Chan, I steal your gun from you and dismantle it kind of stuff. Toll it all the pieces. Like, how fun would that be? But I am thinking of it as like fake and fun. I just, I wonder how many of those guys are, the line is blurred where they actually think they're a badass.

I just remembered maybe the most embarrassing thing I ever did in college. My friend, Jack, maybe listening. What's that, man? He bought me memorabilia from a movie that we both. loved. It's a jacket. Nice warm jacket. That's great. A little chilly down in Cornwall in the winter. Start wearing the jacket relatively regularly. Okay.

Now and then I would get a compliment on the jacket. Kind of a smoking compliment. I'd be like, oh, thank you. Interesting. You're a guy just wondering, by the way, I'm wondering with this on this jacket because I've seen you wear a jacket that said hen tie before. Well, that was. That gets a different kind of smirk. Oh, that was a different one. just learned what that meant. Right, right.

Yes, you are correct. It was a drive jacket. That's what I was thinking. That was actually the only possible jacket. Does this jacket have a scorpion on? It had a scorpion on it now. It was the black version of the jacket. I don't know if Jack thought I had to wear the black version for some reason.

Well, black what? But I thought that the fact it was a different color evaded any possibility of cringe. Don't you wish you had that jacket still, though? Right now, and I say, I would love it. I know. Wear that a Ferrari baseball cap. Well, let me tell you. Getting out of your Toyota Corolla.

They crashed. I'll tell you, I'll tell you a shameful jacket story. When were you jacketed? I, uh, when Brooklyn 9-9 came out, literally like the first episode of Brooklyn 99, Andy Sandberg's wearing a jacket. And I go, that's the cool. He's wearing it because it makes them look like a cop.

But I thought it was just. just like a cool jacket and it's leather and I found out exactly what jacket it was and I wore it a lot I wore it so often I think there had to be overlap

I think I just came out there was a little before yeah this was I actually I bought the jacket when I went to go visit quite literally I went to go visit Russell at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh and we were watching

Brooklyn 9 9 on TV so I must have been like 20 years old and I bought it like right that moment. Is it leather? It's like fake leather. It's from Urban Outfit. Like Sandburg style leather kind of... Hang on. I bet I have it. There's nothing more iconic than being a guy in his early 20s than wearing the same jacket in every photo. This is a

glowed down version. Wait. That is the same jacket. That's crazy. It's the exact same jacket. That might be the same guy. Yeah, that's what I think. Wait a second. So that photo was from 2014 Like I say

I think I was rocking I was still wearing it Almost the exact same jacket In the exact same year 2014 I remember Brooklyn nine coming out Because I remember us watching it in a shitty Unfurnished Living Room

And I remember Only owning the drive jacket Which I could know to wear out of shame And Like A size small A pleather jacket from Zara. And when I say like size small,

it maybe ended like roughly where my watch does wristwise. Yeah. So I look like... Interesting. I look like the... The Babadook. Not a good fit. Jacob, I maybe sent you a photo of this jacket.

Yeah. We could zoom in. And also Zach wearing the jacket as well. We both look like, it looked like a black conservative. The Henley, the bottle of Desani. And the flannel on top is crazy. The Desani, the double.

Also, it is like 85 degrees. There's like no justification for wearing that. This is a photo I took when I got my first DSLR camera. What? And this is at the roof of your old building. And you did, you did this to me with it. You bought a, something nice and you did this to me. I put the clothes on you myself.

Dude, what is going on? The more I look at it It's like a magic eye painting The more things I'm noticing about myself What's the plan with those sleeves make What was the idea Whereas it's not rolled But it's at the distance of a rolled sleeve

How did I do that? Speaking of jackets Druski's not wearing one in this place Jacob would you say Inesthesia Perfect Jacob says disappointingly What did you say before that though Jacob

Oh can we just get like a clean transition Well, yeah, Anastasia, do you want to hit that back? No, no, no, no, hit that again. Speaking of jackets, Drusky's not wearing one in this clip. Thank you. I guess we would give you a second chance to do it like a better one. Speaking of jackets. I saw, sorry, do you want to give it again?

Yeah, go for it. I don't want. When I saw a promotional image from this Druski sketch and I was in full disbeliefing. that it was Druske. That's crazy. It's really well done. And what is it? It's like literally the, I do love sketches where the description is like, the guy at the place.

What is this? This is that guy who's just proud to be an American. All right. This is black, white level. It's way beyond. It's way beyond. Look how far the scientist comes. It's beyond Emmy winning Blackface, actually.

Blackface walked so he could run. here's love that's amazing if you can't come in or come over I think he's got a dip in or something they also like gave him some burn that's like

I will point out the technology obviously has come so far I'm identifying a few flaws that were present all the way back in black white the one that jumps out immediately is that the thinest layered part of the face there's so little you can do

you notice his top eyelid is like it's immediately kind of rubbing off and it's so transparent that as soon as you get to the eyes there's so much like what's the opposite of blush whatever's happening up there something's wrong you know

if I saw that it would just be like I think that guy's sick right I think the sun and does a lot for the authenticity. It really does. It is. His hair's really bad.

This gets just him going like, hell yeah, brother, for the whole two men. I'm curious. Like, let's watch. 15 hours of makeup. Yeah. She's not a list. He's come up.

You need to look to your Nana. Go ahead, baby. That two's a cool. Whoa. Where are you crazy to night? That's Drusky laugh. No, it's her. Is it something growing?

I hope to God he knew that man. Hey, me, Ma. How you doing, baby? How's it? How's it? How's the makeup stay on? What have they developed in recent? I don't know.

He went under a full surgery. What is this for? That guy knew. This is his contact. He just did a skit. Skit. NASCAR race. You going to NASCAR?

You go on the NASCAR? A little bit. Jesus Christ I'm good I'm going to the right second I don't something safe to do boy

Oh my God I'm like I feel bad for that guy I feel bad for that guy too That's a memory for life I hope he knows that guy I don't know I don't think I've seen

performance that good Yeah okay wait What is it that isn't right It's the even tone I feel It's too clean It's too clean It's too clean.

It's like, it's like, a, like, powdery face. It's like how a, like a rich person, it's like they're never in shadow. It's like they're beautiful. Oh, yeah, you know, like. And the beard is also hard to, the beard texture is like hard to fake. The beard, the texture has like a Steve Harvey clarity and it's line. He needed like a perm. There's no stub.

It is a cool look, like top to bot. You think I could rock that? What if I wore that exact outfit on episode? of the podcast, and we refuse to acknowledge it either on the show or in the comments. Okay, let's do it. The captions say, not wearing that. This is a very funny frame to have been stopped.

Also, the American flag cowboy hat is insane. It's pretty good. Pre-distressed. I'm just going to ask, if Jordan Peel reaches out directly to us? Sir. Sir, yes, sir. Captain my captain.

Whatever he says. Would you like to make a. cameo appearance as a pair of brothers in my next movie. It's called, like, look over there or whatever. Uh-oh. Yeah, the movie's called, uh-oh. Bad. Look out.

I'm behind you. I'm doing to be, my new movie coming out is called, uh, would you enjoy and be interested in playing a pair of brothers, one scene only, you own a diner, and we are both in extremely elaborate and accurate white face? Absolutely. Without a hesitation. Without a question.

I would respond If like I would respond for the both of us To be emailed Save me some time Yeah I'm like hey don't worry I got this

Save the date Yeah Because I think The director It's only helps I think I think It's funny to ask that

To like Eddie About All right you could be A Jordan Pills newest movie But you gotta be a black guy Look at that guy Look at Happy he is

Oh Bring on the truth baby Oh that fucker a go who are you just having a it's proud to be a man it's rubbing off something's happened to the makeup independence i think you're right it is the um eerily flat it's like you can't create like real humans have like imperfections it's like

like, I feel like when you see, like, face tune, the reason you can tell is because, like, you do you think anyone got, like, an uncanny valley feeling? I'm sure, but it's one of those situations where you, it's like, saying something, it's like so hard to say something if you see something. Right. You can't look at a guy and go, what's wrong with your face? You're a fake guy. Wait a second.

You're like, that's such an insane thing to you. You seem like you're right, but you aren't that. Something's wrong. Wouldn't this just be? like imagine looking at that like sadboard we've just started doing the podcast and flash forward in time 190 episodes forward and we look at that board what's huh this is what we talk about what it's just like what does that mean oh okay explain this to me what is what is men pummeling let's watch the video they explain it learn by doing at live the practice

This practice is called pummeling. There's something about men sharing a nonverbal space with each other that's extremely connective. And this is a direct way to practice more of that. Oh, I'm going to do it. Is this a bit? No.

You're allowed to hug, fellas. So pummeling is a technique in wrestling, like the sport of wrestling, where you try to get your arms under the other guy's arms to, like, flip him and stuff. But the way that they're smiling looks like they're tickling each other. They were just like giggling. Yeah, giggling and glee with the boys. It's a manly little giggle. I mean, like, what's it? It's giggling like a manly guy.

Approaches to pummeling with. Okay. So they're just looping underhooks. That's what it is. This is real wrestlers. I wish I had someone to pummel me. Not fair. Basically, like, the result, the goal of the drill is to gain, like, a physical advantage over the person's grappling with.

No one I'm saying, fellas. Trying to be the top, you know? Get on top, sorry. There was more to that one video, right? Something about grappling like this that just reminds us of play, you know, being in relationship with the other man, testing the limit. Sorry. Be it all. You yell.

Guys, we're joking. This is humor because of, because it's obviously okay to have any sort of relationship with a male. Do you remember the, this is actually reminding me of that thing we watched about the, calling your daughter's boyfriend to say good night or whatever, where it's like I can actually

In funny peeps Even you're asking like Is this sincere There was never a second of doubt In my mind Because the piece of it is in me Like the pummeling is inside me I guess is my brain

There's that little part of my brain And a little part of my gender conditioning Where I immediately go Yes I understand what's happening I think it's a little sad that this is the not the thing itself. It's that there are a lot of people

that get into this kind of stuff because they feel too insecure about like anything being, there has to be an artifice, right? It's like, I can't drink nice drinks, I have to drink coffee because I need caffeine.

There can't be anything that's just simple and vulnerable. But I can't drink coffee because that's for losers. I've got to drink, what's the one with the butter in it? Oh, charged or whatever. Bulletproof.

Bulletproof coffee. We got to drink bulletproof coffee because, it basically sounds like they added a word that's tough carbon fiber coffee rocket coffee for knife knife coffee I drink gun juice it's like the thing is like it's okay to be physically intimate like hug your male friends it's okay to play around with your male friends but the fact that this is like creating like that's what they're saying is like the intimate touch with other men is important it's like yeah just fucking yeah that's the thing

it's like the issue that I have is that it skirts around the issue of men don't feel comfortable engaging physically with each other so they have to come up with like an excuse for it and it never does anything to like break down that the cycle of it it's fixed it's just let's profit on this insecurity i think it is intuitive to some degree i kind of see like if there is something that you want more in your life and you can find a consenting group of people that are able to help you do it then you know that go for it or whatever but there is something just so of i can see see within the soul I see the side eye of still just hiding what you really want. That's what it is.

It's like it still feels like it's a it's a band-aid that never addresses the core issue. And so I'm like. It's doing theater games to spend time with people. Right. It's like you're having a podcast to talk to your friends. You're avoiding the real thing that you should be doing. Yeah. And look, the two of you, you're fucking sick, you're fucking cool, you're like hot.

I think something that people underestimate about how like, trad male dynamics how the conditioning works is that it's not just hey uh that hey i don't swing that way i don't want to touch a penis i don't know how to describe this there is a lot more repulsion built into it like the way people are conditioned it's like oh we touched hands for a second oh yeah formative and i and i would say that that is not the case outside of that specific conditioning. I've got something that is perfect for this. It's a thing we've talked about before,

which is how you're not allowed to give a man a compliment or you're not allowed to say anything that's suss because suss has become gay, you know. Another like astroturfing homophobia. Literally, yeah. No ditty now. Or the classic pause. And so that's what brings me to Fat Joe.

I've seen you a clip of Fat Joe's podcast. and if he sent this to me because we were like we were talking about like when he was over the other day and there's a couple weeks ago I was talking about how it's funny to me

when older black guys get into this like pause like war where they're like really trying to avoid like saying something and it can be subverted for comedy or it can be leaned into for comedy where it's like self-aware

of what they're doing Like when I leave a question mark, react on the message, you don't think I'm being passive aggressive. Sure. But so I just, without any further context, we can just pull this up. Studio one day, right? First of all day. Like, I'm just talking.

I'm talking. I'm like, yo, man, pause, pause, pause. I'm in there, like, one verse. I'm in there. I'm like, yo, what I want to say? Some, I think it was a track with nine, something like that. One of them joints. And I'm like, yo, I had to blow him.

Like, but it was like, you know, we meant back. days when you bloomed he was like yo you know what i'm saying are you blown yeah yeah that was pause pause pause pause pause and it's like engineer like yo and he's young though yeah so it's like he pausing me down but i'm like yo you take me out of my element yeah like yo but i know what the fuck i mean bro you know you know too yeah exactly so it's like why so you know we did a skin on it did a skin on that right because i wanted to bring that up you know what i mean so it's like yo had my man mr commodore come in and you know we went down to work on it though you know what i mean you're funny you'll never expect for this goes so i'm like yo

shit yeah you're right though forgot about that but it wasn't the pause because back then so it sounds was like a fresh salad like you know whatever this is fucking bullshit what's going on right now yeah it's full of shit if i tell you i like a fucking glissie you know what the fuck i mean that ain't in there that's the one that ain't in it that ain't you don't listen you don't stop you're saying two different things no we're saying the same

shit you know I mean a hot dog I'm doing all my gay friends to have a gay realize this nigga not gay why you keep pausing me for eating a hot dog though this shit out of control

I've been saying that about homophobia. It's out of control. It's out of control. My gay friends who are the gay are, they know I'm not gay. I'm trying to eat a hot dog. I have a signed letter from the doctor. If I say I like a glizzy, you

know what the fuck I mean. There's what he's saying all the guys catching up. Yeah, they're like also, it's just like kind of making sense. It was like, now you can't say toss salad. You used to toss a salad. Um, and then Jadakis was like,

no glizzy's not in there it's like it's fucking in there you know what I mean it's so funny it's yeah it's a trap that we're making for ourselves there's nothing this isn't like for anything like oh wait pause you almost became gay

I caught it before it spread don't worry right I help you out brother to brother it does feel like there's two brands of homophobia one which is like the passive lack of tolerance or like like uh yeah hey do whatever you want but i don't know i can get that shit and you don't have

like many gay friends then there's the other kind which maybe is more of a kind of teenager era thing to do but i do see in like even like this clip right is actual like fear it's actual like fear of the presence of the idea more than anything to do with actual people or it feels like it's a it's like a gender performance thing that's like there's a challenge to your masculinity if you ever engage. It's like you're revealing weakness if you say you want to glizzy. It is costed.

You want to try that again? You want a what now? You wanted something? No, don't want stuff. A penis? Oh, I shouldn't have said that. That's what gay people eat. You're completely misunderstanding.

Yeah, what do you? I say don't. Yeah? Yes or no? Um, to gay people. Or to penises. What are you asking? What is she the freaking Supreme Court over here?

Hey, they're trying to strip our rights away. I did play gay chicken as a youth. What is that? Sorry, you said that and it's something I'm not aware. So it's something... I know chicken, which is like when you're like, have someone on your shoulders in a pool. It's cars driving to world to each other, chicken.

Oh, I guess that also goes to. So it's like you get closer to kissing each other and who pulls away first loses. Sorry, I imagine something very different. And continue, yes. I always won because I was like I'll kiss the homies

you dude you're a view and that's a threat this isn't gross to me you were vaccinated I was like fully I had the gay virus actually

dude it's terminal I'm like I'll kiss you why would I not kiss you that's what I mean I do think it's like some people the things you do

and the way you behave when it's informed by oppression is always so much more power than things you do out of like enthusiasm or care or actual love right like it's like a because what oppression is it's a valve that you tighten so much that the steam has to fly out somewhere else the church is going to give you so many rules that instead of jacking off you like give the church more money like there's it's there for a reason this is for nothing like this constant uh internal

arms race of like well actually what you did was actually the susser thing i will say that and I do want to continue watching this, but, like, thinking about, like, male gender performance and, like, kind of, like, being a traditional man, et cetera, et cetera, this type of stuff is like, oh, I, I, I'm still a traditional man because what I do, that's called pummeling. You know, what I do, it's like, it's not, I've never, like, engaged in anything that's suss. I'm hugging you with karate. But I've also noticed that even on dating apps, I've seen more people who like, like women who do the like traditional dog whistles. Like it'll be like looking for a traditional man or like they'll say something that is like, like, what do you mean by that? But it's also like. I mean what people I think generally just mean either way is I, they want something that can never be achieved, which is the mythical perfect gender performance.

But like the insidiousness of. about cultural expectations is that everyone thinks everyone gets it. And it's like, well, you know, like a real man. And that to one person could mean something completely different. I do think, and I'm as good, I think I'm actually a little guilty of this as far as like, as far as like sad boys goes. Like in the past, like we're very much in a bubble, both the show and us themselves, but also just like a broader friend group and the political environment that we operate in. Like, I think there's a trope, for example, of people being like, man, men are all obsessed about their bodies.

Women don't care about that. That is not true. That is, or a better example, probably being like, men, they're all about, like, being manly men. Women don't care about. It's like, lots of women do. There's like a, well, it's like there is a spectrum of, like, many things that people care about.

It's just like, it's like when people see Shane Gillis's. girlfriend and they go but he's not ripped it's a I think brick in my brain it's like a performative thing I feel like people sometimes do where the aspiration of what we would like gender and gender dynamics to be we're just kind of like brute forcing it in and saying it's actually not manly to chop down trees in the woods wearing flannel like yes it is of course it is like you show that to most people that's like quite literally the picture of manliness or whatever that's why that ticot guy got so viral. The huge four-arms, Johnny or whatever.

It's like, I'm not saying that there's value or lack of value to that. It's just like a little bit silly to pretend that that's not what. It's like saying I don't see color. Yeah. Because it's like, okay, we like we have an established context where everyone's got a certain worldview that's been impregnated within them through time and social custom. It doesn't make it a moment. moral failing to not chop down trees in the woods wearing flannel but like I think it sometimes

does a little bit of a disservice to people that are still trying to figure out especially like dumb dumb younger dudes who are like I want to be manly man I'll buy I'll buy leather jacket like what do I have to buy that validates my mask jacket maybe would be still in the way direction well like it's not it's not that we need to pretend that no one associates chopping down trees in the woods wearing funnel with traditional masculinity it's more that traditional masculinity should not itself be the goal why are people saying that racism existed when we made it illegal so long ago dude we just shouldn't do that yeah what do you mean i think it's mean i think it's suss but yeah so it's like you have to acknowledge like where we're at right now and right now and without doing that i guess the closest valve

you can release it through is doing hug karate or whatever the all right let's live the practice and continue watching live this practice the goal is the goal is is for me to try to get both hands up under where I could give a takedown here. So we're fighting for that dominant position. And the way that we do that is we're going to try to swim our hands in, and we'll do it at the same time. We'll end up back in a neutral position.

And I'm trying to defend while he's doing that by holding my arm close to his chest and putting my other arm, my right arm, down underneath. So I'm trying to get double underhooks, and he's trying to do the same thing. It is a little bit, like, pro wrestling, where we all know what this is, but we're all doing k-fabe and pretending it's something else. We're like, oh, yeah, sure, it's martial arts. Not even addressing what it, like.

It's like if they were still pretending that, like, there was no choreography and pro wrestling. Like, it's just about fucking hanging out with the boys. I do want to work on, I'm just, like, not a very physically comfortable person in general, but I do want to work on my, like, ability to be more physically. affectionate with other guys, like, genuinely, because I think I still carry a little of that, like, instinct. And I, it's just one of the things I haven't worked on because I am generally not a very physical person. You know, I, I used to be much more physical, like hugging my friends and stuff. And I find myself very awkward with that stuff ever since the pandemic started. I thought you're going to say cancel culture. Ever since, because it's like, you can't even hug a woman

anymore. You can't even cough in her face. You can't. Look, I don't mean to be problematic. You can't even walk up to the cave with a big bonker on the head. Carry around. Carrier around on your back and your loincloth. But I do feel like now when someone touches me, I'm like, you know, it's a bit of a jump scare. But I think it's just, I need to like get used to it again because it is really nice to be affectionate with your friends. Do karate. do competitive hugging but yeah i think i'm like very awkward with hugging now i'm glad that this exists i'll say that yeah i think it ultimately these men need it you know it's just always i wonder if there is anyone in that group

aware that like the the the fact that they can't do it without this is something that they're struggling with and I don't want to that's obviously me projecting I'm sure there's guys in the group that hug their friends are plenty and can hang out but I think it's it is very telling like on any uh anybody that identifies with this sensation for a second listening the toxic the reason that like toxic gender performance is bad ultimately is because of the people that it keeps down yeah but the ways you can tell that it's happening as by the way that you, the things you cut off from yourself. The big thing, I think it was a non-the-lawy and made those references, it just stuck

with me, is that there is absolutely no part of me that could sit at a table of friends, try a dessert, and go, mm, and roll my eyes back. I, even as the joke then, I didn't roll my eyes, because I can't, because there is a, there is a burning, like, there is a symbion in the back of my brain, like, that's for girls. Boys don't do that. Holding hands and walking around.

Inconceivable. Like, I've plenty of friends that will do that with each other. But it's like, weird. It's just fucking pause or whatever. I just, it, I don't have a solution so much for it, but I don't know, man. It's really deep down in there. Um, by the way, I looked at my phone while you were talking, and I made a bunch of, like, horrified faces because, uh, Yorma Toconi of the Loli Island fell 20 feet from a ladder and, like, shattered his pelvis and, like, won't walk for six months.

Oh, okay, six months. Yeah, all right. I guess that's better than it. It's better than never. 20 feet. Yeah. He told the story on the Seth Myers podcast, so I guess you'll hear it soon because you'll listen to that. How did he get in the studio?

Call, phone. Oh. That makes more sense. Oh, my legs. No, he wrote a phone inside. The audio is really funny. And have touched so little because of social constructs and mores. Wait a second.

Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. So they talked about this as like a grappling technique. And then without any transition, they go, men need to be touched. Like, you know, why does it have to be competition or like a violent thing? Well, I know, I want to admit, I will kind of eat my words a little on that. I assumed that there was not going to be acknowledgement of that.

And like, you know, maybe this is the equivalent of, well, I'm, I have, I'm a racist. I keep saying racist stuff. And it's like, well, just stop. And like, I don't know, maybe you have to therapy that it, dude, like, maybe this is the closest we have to a practical solution. Of masculinity. Yeah, buy crypto to send so you can hug your friends. You've got to go to a garage sale and buy and resell some stuff. DM everyone every single day.

Keep DMing. And when we have an outlet where it's acceptable, it's relational, it's playful, it opens us back up to flow of vitality ease. Oh, right. Get the full practice. And then the full practices, I assume, cost money. Just on YouTube, I guess. Well, you can't click a link in a short. short. Come on, buddy. Oh, three courses. It's not therapy. It's training. What's start

your training? Wait, let's just click start your training. Well, yeah, you got to have a cool word. The course of the Ronan. Okay, so total guide for men, men's work, a practical guide to face your darkness and self-sabotage. See, it's like the thing is that these types of things are a lot things that a lot of people need help with. And of course, like, if you're offering the solutions, founder of man-taught,

oh, it's just called man-talks.com. Did you see that the big, uh, in the first on the landing page, the big sub-titles? Yeah, it's not weird.

It's not weird. It's not therapy. It's training. Oh, God. That's interesting, right? Just coming and be like, don't worry. Oh,

it's not none of that fucking suss therapy shit. Going to therapy for girls. No, no, no, it's grappling, not hugging. There's no talking to

each other and learning, okay? Yeah. It's not weird. We kinetically energized through the touch of our fellow man. We perform an ocular pat-down of a competitive environment, okay? What we need to do is we need to ascertain

where our bro's balls are located by cupping them gently. We are able to watch each other's sixth and perform kinetic engagements with necessary opponents and tangoes. At a certain point, I'm going to drop a gun into the arena. And then whoever gets a kiss first

gets the gun. Honestly, every man in America could be completely fixed if we just create an escape room simulation of being in SEAL Team 6 and killing Osama. You had to do that and then you hug each other at the end, problem solved. I have maybe a stupid question. What number is six M-I-O? Six million. M-O. Six-what?

M-O-plus. Is it supposed to be M-I-L? I think it's supposed to be M-I-O. And L is next to O. Can they put our podcast logo on the featured in? I think it was featured in. Well, featured in the United Nations. I have a hard time believing that.

They did it on the show floor. It's just right out in front of everyone. How much does it cost? Give me the bag. Suck it up, stuff it down. Are you kidding? Oh, I see. They're saying the bad way to do it.

Yeah, but they just know, but they know what they know what they're doing, right? Suck it up, stuff it down. Come on. that can't be ask fat joe about it if i want a glizzy i want a fucking hot dog you know what i mean uh how much does a book cost on the amazon tab okay normal more book normal for the most part not a recommended purchase but normal book is there a career related one of money and career related and then number five gain better control of your anger oh that's i mean yeah i hope so But this would be funny if this is just a list of stuff you should do.

Oh, yeah. I do wonder what the, oh, no, they've got, they've got porn detox as well. The shadow course. I don't know. I haven't read the papers or whatever, but that stuff always gives me this weird vibe. The no fat. The porn detox thing. Because it's like, yes, everything in moderation, but it always feels like it's connected to.

Is the detox just not watching porn? Probably, but you kind of sell a course? No, yes, you do need a course. I'm sorry, it's a specific number of days. like a juice cleanse We live in a culture Fuck Well we live in a society

That has a culture Not to be pedantic Do we live in a culture I guess Will you do I subverted it Okay A few ways your shadow

Is sabotaging your life Photos Getting scared at night That's that's aimed at Punksitonic Phil I have said It's named Drewski's white guy It's like

It's a weird roundabout way Of getting to It's like so your so your husband won't go to therapy get it the little rascals therapy book yeah no it's it's here comes the airplane for like men having actual healthy op which which could be helpful but i fear that

i fear that it does kind of mask some of the helpful stuff you can not escape your shadow uh um by the way if you're going to put universe on your shirt don't put the Hiding the U on your arm makes it look like it says nivers I'll figure these damn nivers

I love a band called Weezer They got a singer name Nivers Quoombo Nivers Kuno Kuno Oh my lord that's a lot of steps This is a Friend novice page Halfway through There's more, there's less

text on, like, getting a $9,000 surgery. Is this the cost? Like, we're top to bottom? So you can pay in full for $200 or you could split it up for slightly more money? That's much money. Look, if you're going to split it up and it too, I'm going to charge you an extra dollar on top. But we can't offer it for $98 or for $98.50. Okay.

FG. Well, speaking of Man Talks, that's another word for our. podcast. Another term, I guess. You've ranked cool guy brand, insecure guy brand, I mean. Yeah, we should call our podcast like tactical. Oh, yeah. Discernment.

Carbon fiber. Correspondent. Oh, yeah, we call it carbon fiber correspondence. Oh, that's sick. That's probably one of those desert storm cards. Okay. Isn't it an app? That's an app.

We had every episode of five. We, we, we, um, Taylor Swift was born in 1989. Yeah, let me check me in for the road quick. And she is, she lived on a. Christmas tree and she flew her horse to school and her parents are Jeff Bezos and Miranda

Cosgrove. Wow. He does say that. Once in a million blue moons, a shooting star comes and this time his name was Travis Kelsey. You add a bunch of patients? And he became the love of her life

and then your gym teacher and English teacher got married. Amen. Tale of all her dreams now that it is your turn to follow yours let's do this to say uh i was going to do night night what are we say um we say um freaking we love you and we're sorry we love you and we're sorry taylor followed her dreams now it's time to follow yours boom i think sometimes people struggle receiving gifts because it's too explicit an expression of of love or like too physical

Can you when someone gives me a playboy? I'm like, hey, I'm going to help you out. This is entirely too explicit. You've seen this, huh? Stop. Found in the woods. I don't. That's where they keep them.

That's where they grow. I think that's why people are. From tree. It's like a money tree. It's like next to your money tree. You grow a centerfold tree. Goochie girl. How you doing?

How you're moving on? Moving all. How's you delicate that future girl? Future girl. Yeah, we're on now. My money go away Oh, you want it Go too rich for me