Sad Boyz - Alpha Males Scared Of Video Game

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. Whoa. Whoa. I'm flying. He's in the Matrix. Ah, what the heck? Oh no, bullet time. That's the main guy.

It's the main, like Smith? It's Morleus. No? Oh, so close. Morleus Lookout, it's... Morleus Lookout. Hugo Weaving. No, I told you it was Smith.

That's his character. Yeah, his first name is Hugo Weaving. His first name is Hugo Weaving. No, I told you it was Smith. That's his character. Yeah, his first name is Hugo Weaving. His first name is Hugo Weaving Smith. It would be really funny if partway through that movie, they're like, we're analyzing the code. It turns out that Agent Smith is a type of virus, but, oh, his first name is Clarence. Oh, not really concerned about it.

It really doesn't change anything. You don't fear me, Mr. Anderson. Yeah, because we found out about Clarence. You don't fear a guy named Clarence, Mr. Anderson. And he does the thing where it's like the shutter speed is really low, and it's like you see him in a bunch of things. I did tell you about the movie double feature. I insisted on watching every day one summer when I was like eight.

This vaguely sounds familiar, but tell me. I would have to watch The Matrix Revolutions. Right. Reloaded. Had not seen the others. Yes. Then What Women Want starring Mel Gibson. I've never seen that movie.

Rewatched it recently. Does this hold up because i wanted to show katie because i'm like you know when you have kind of a anecdote that kind of drifts in the way of of stand-up roles where it's it's true but you don't remember it well enough maybe you're embellishing it with the funnier moments and i would refer to it in a like yeah mel gibson gains the idea gains the ability to read women's minds because he's an advertising executive that trips into the bathtub while holding uh hair colors and other feminine products because to test them out because he's a misogynist that needs to learn how what they're like and it is complete nonsense turns out that is literally exactly what happens oh wow and he can also read dog dogs minds oh that's an odd it happens one time that never

comes back but he this is a movie about a misogynist needing to be re-educated right and he in the universe of the movie is right like it is crazy that he's just like women only think about one thing thinking about their handbags and shopping and then he's walking through a crowd of people and they're like ah my period shopping handbags i can't believe it was published and also like i wouldn't spoil it for people because i do recommend watching it but it is it's actually probably an imperfect encapsulation of what was so broken about early to mid 2000s i guess it's a rom-com but early mid-2000 comedy dramas or whatever and how they don't understand tone and they feel ai written like weirdly yeah and the ai is trained on those movies yeah oh yeah yeah it is um hey man it's a good hate watch

with some pals around. But twinning it with The Matrix Reloaded without having seen the other movies does give you a bit of tonal whiplash. Literally, I was going to say the phrase tonal whiplash. It's not unlike coming out of The Matrix. Also, howdy. Howdy. Did I howdy in the live show? I can't remember.

I don't remember either. It was all kind of a blur. Austin's saying you did. Austin's nodding emphatically. Austin is here in person. Austin, stick your head awkwardly into frame. Nice. It's awkward, yeah.

Oh, it's all dandruff. Oh, no. Oh, the camera, it's broke. The ugliness of meters going off. We had our live show. We had the Sad Boys live show at Dynasty Typewriter, December 3rd at 4 p.m. It happened.

As funny as it would be to now be here being solemn and say it did not go particularly well. Yeah, everything went wrong. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. It was perfect. It was so fun. Incredible audience. Really good time. Shout-outs to Mateo for being a very good sport.

And shout-out to Isaiah. You'll know why if you were there. So, oh, my God. I mean, see, that's the stuff that, like, you know, the prepared bits we did, they worked. That was really fun. The guests we got on worked perfectly. Super fun.

Those little bonus features. Little special bonus factors. But if you were not there and don't know what we're talking about, we will be releasing it on the Patreon. So stay tuned for details regarding that. Jacob is in the lab right now cooking up the edit of the live show we have it filmed in beautiful 4k he always wears a white lab coat for the podcast so that worked out pretty well he insists on using like beakers and stuff and i don't really understand how that applies to be a scientist so bad yeah he's like yeah your focus your focus has been on bunts and burners

lately which doesn't feel very productive for the podcast. But we're not engineers. You know, you don't know shit about coding. I don't know anything about film production. Freaking knows. But yeah, live show went well. Thank you to everybody who came out. And stay tuned for those who want to see it. Because it's, I mean, we can reveal now.

We had Eddie Burback. We had Nakey Jakey. We had Ify Wadiwe. We had Chad Chad. Yeah. Yeah. Jealous much? Jealous much.

It was a star-studded crew. Yeah, in a grand old time. So thanks again for that. It was a very fun one. That was like, I mean, you know, how was your week, including the live show? How was it after the live show? Oh, it's not been good, to be honest. I've been out of it.

I've been tired. I've been sad. I've been trying to figure out what's wrong. It's like small work things, but I don't know. It's just not been on the right foot lately. Does it feel kind of intangible? Some of it's tangible. Like it's easy to point to things and say like,

this is the problem. But if I were in better spirits, they probably wouldn't be an issue. If that makes sense. Like it's, and if all of them were resolved, you wouldn't just be a tan. Exactly. Exactly.

So that's, that's kind of, that's kind of where I'm at. But, uh uh another day another sleigh as they say um and i'm just gonna keep keep at it keep doing things um you know what they say it's another day another sleigh yeah and thank you for saying that yeah great idea had. Yeah. But before we get into that, me, Jarvis, has a word from today's sponsor, Liquid IV. Did you know that proper hydration is essential to daily health? That's why Liquid IV's hydration multiplier is one of the best products to add to your daily routine. With just one stick, you can hydrate two times faster than water alone.

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this video now back to the boys howdy as well wait and that's mine that's my thing yeah sorry you're not been feeling so hot that's okay i mean it it comes with the territory of being alive and uh and it will pass because no feeling is permanent and uh all feelings the good ones and the bad ones uh do eventually go so i'm just trying to like be present acknowledge acknowledge the moment um it is a bad time for my therapist to be on vacation uh but it's the holidays so i also just don't do well during the holidays. Holidays are always very, very solemn, very solitary, very sad for me because I don't tend to do anything with family

just because I don't have a super close, like I don't really have that relationship with my family. And then like, it's kind of like, I've explained it before, but there's like my blood relatives and there's like the family that raised me and a lot of people from the family that raised me have passed away so there's not like uh somewhere to go back in that in that corner and then like my uh blood relatives i didn't grow up with in that way so it's like so it ends up being a complicated thing so i i tend to just like uh i i tend to just ride alone when it comes to the the holidays uh or i'll do things with

friends and that's what i'm going to try to do this year keep myself keep myself busy keep myself from stewing too much but it's very keep myself from stewing whoa much, Brian. Stop yourself. I'm a baby. It's happening again. The full moon's out. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we have a similar situation with the holidays. But, you know, sometimes you hear people talk about, like,

it's gone back to seeing the family and Uncle George is racist or something like that. Yeah. And I don't totally understand it but i also do i i wonder if at some point we should find something that is ours because i've also been away a while we used to spend our christmases together true true yeah no first one since i'm back yeah that's when i'm here since I got back. Yeah. Because I briefly was away after I moved back over Christmas. Right.

Just my concerns. I have had a little bit of that experience. We talked about it. Like the Uncle George is racist or whatever. Like we had a little bit of that because sometimes I'll go visit Russell's family. I haven't done it in a while, but I'm sure if I hit them up, they would have me. But I'm also not... It's one of those things where it's like I'm bad at reaching out because I don't want to... I don't know what I have the energy for or the desire for.

Like a friend asked me, yo, when are we going to hang out? And I was like, I don't know. Because like... I wish soon. Yeah. I wish soon. me right now i'm not feeling like i want to commit to something the one that cancels on you isn't the me right now yeah blame him don't blame him he's not doing well but like i'm sorry for him um though uh we did do an episode i want to say say 2017, called Awkward Thanksgiving Conversations,

where we did talk a little bit about my experiences with Uncle Dan's racist type beat. It's funny to think the podcast is at a place now where I just don't remember episodes. Oh, I mean, I feel like it's been like that the whole time. Because I don't know what we've said. There's like lots of stuff though just for the live show we had to i had to like look through some of our old episodes so it was interesting there's a few things that were really prophetic from like the episode zero that we like never put out and some of that we played during the live show but then there's other stuff that was like too long to include where we like have a conversation about

um uh the early episodes of sad boys were very like topic focused and i eventually it started to feel like therapy and i was like already going to therapy once a week and so i just like felt like a very emotionally draining to do the show that way. It felt like a deliverable too. Yeah. When we say topic focus for people who don't know, we're talking about like today's episode is about family. Today's episode is about race or validation.

Yeah, exactly. Which is fine as a jumping off, but it's kind of like, it was almost like improv where there was this third performer that was the show itself and we would be like oh we're on a pirate ship we're bored and we're like no we're at doctor's office i okay i um but in the episode zero which was like basically just a meeting we were having trying to like workshop what the show was i say like well i don't just want it to be like this. Cause that might be like exhausting for me. It's like, I predicted the future,

but I didn't even remember that I had said it. There's a few things like that. For example, I had it playing on the speaker when I was editing and I said to Austin in real life out loud, I guess our first episode, which is like 36 questions of all in love, we call that episode zero at some point. And so technically this is like episode negative one or something like that. And then in the recording for it, I go, this is episode zero or episode negative one. And I'm like, what? There's no free will.

We should keep doing it. This should be episode zero. We're all just deterministic, finite state automata. Oh, yeah. There is no free will, only fatalism. I am very much a John Locke, philosophically speaking. Don't tell me what I can't do. Don't tell me where I can't be on an island.

Don't tell me where i am or what i said don't i just was the episode where he has a flashback or like he travels by briefly and sees richard and richard literally goes like don't let him tell you what to not do yeah he's like i won't thanks thanks man i was just thinking about letting people tell me what i can't do um shout out to lost truly shout out to lost i it is sad to me that we at any point lived in a Letting people tell me what I can't do. Shout-outs to Lost, truly. Shout-out to Lost. It is sad to me that we at any point lived in a world, and I do think it would be different now, where going really strange and avant-garde

and having fun with a show, for all the drama that was happening behind the scenes, as a result, as a product, Lost, in my opinion, has only been getting better over time. And I really, I think if Lost existed in a post or during Mr. Robot era,

it would receive a lot of the same love as a weird high concept show. Would not be as like, I mean, I won't spoil too much of it. Basically the cast just completely turns over. There's a lot of the same people in it, but the show kind of acknowledges like who's right for this story at this time.

And it's just, I, I, we were watching, we were watching some of my favorite episodes at the same time that that guy was in the background with his wake on tablet on the plane. He skipped every Joey scene. So I was half there for one episode.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Shout out. He skipped every Joey scene. So I was half there for one episode. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Shout out. Shout out to that guy. Shout out to Joey. Some say he's watching Friends right now. And he's skipping the Joey scenes. Yeah, I got off the plane.

The pilot was like, he's been dead. Yeah. I do appreciate it. I mean, we've talked about it many times. But I think, yeah, that's a very healthy approach to things not being great. Is accepting that impermanence. At the same time, the people who are in long, sustaining, difficult points, it's not – the thing you're experiencing isn't invalid because of that. Right.

It's just something to hold on to. Regardless of where it ends up going, it's just just not literally not going to be the same it's it's contrary to what your brain wants to do and what humans uh yeah what you're what humans are bad at but insist on doing which is assuming that everything will stay the same a lot of our like anxieties are based on the fact that like uh literally everything about the world doesn't change like every second and and we are not good at predicting the future but as a survival mechanism like it's natural to try to predict the future but then that gets into like anxiety you know um and humans really don't like feeling powerless yeah that's kind of why like i feel like especially right after i went back to the UK, a lot of people were saying like, well, this, the, or actually mourning, I guess, is like when people say it a lot. And you've experienced this too, where people will say like,

wow, sorry to hear that. And then either make a reference to their own experience or say, try and comfort you with a platitude. When in reality, I mean, I'm okay with other people's experience. That can't be helpful. But with the plat platitudes like they're like oh well you know things get better not everything will stay the same it's well intentioned but i also think a lot of the time it's a oh my friend is suffering and i can't do anything here's my last resort yeah that won't happen forever and yeah if i get that instinct because if people think that we think it will

Right Great feedback Yeah, and I'm actually like, my unpopular opinion is I'm not too much a hater of platitudes I think it depends on where, you know, it feels like it's coming from Because I think a platitude can be earnest and it could also be like I don't want to have this conversation I don't want to have this conversation. I don't want to have this conversation.

Yeah. Cause a lot of times those platitudes like, um, are based in something like, you know, like something time heals all wounds or something like that. It's like, whatever. But, you know, when you, you know, look back on your life and about the things that were particularly painful or stressful in a moment in time, and you look at them with hindsight, you go, oh, I guess that really wasn't a big deal. There's some things that are big deals, but other things that may ruin a day for me today, I may look back in a week, in a year and say you know what was i worried about

well i mean based on the way you're talking about it now i'll probably be close to like oh yeah i was right you know it was that kind of temporary uh i mean the only time i get frustrated by platitudes is when i've asked for something else as well if i say like yeah i'm venting and i'm still getting pledges i'm right right i have to too many times say like it's okay yeah this is just hearing me out and accepting or challenging my reality is just all i'm after but to do that i mean that's being powerless it's like not being able to help somebody you care about in a really complicated situation it's not as guilty as anyone like we will do it's like when you have a like if you if you're talking to a partner and it's like if you can if you're a person that wants to solve

every problem and your partner's like share in their venting and they don't want you to solve their problems they just want to they just want to vent then like it's even if it's well-intentioned trying to solve the problem right now is not going to be it's not going to lead to good things you just kind of have to like listen to what they want i think that's the height of it right it's like uh the most platitudes i've ever gotten from anyone is in a very well-intentioned relationship setting where the level of intimacy you have together makes the feeling of powerlessness hurt the most and that's when i've given it the most and then on the other

end of the spectrum where it happens the most and i think it is not well-intentioned is often kind of boomer friend family or like family friends who are just like you know like northern family or very like kind of emotionally traditional, don't talk about your emotions kind of thing. Right. Just wanting to be like, I don't like having this conversation. Yeah.

It's actually fine. They're like, oh, okay then. That's good for you. That I no longer feel too bad. Yeah. Well, but how about you? How was your week week including the show um i was i was i had a good stretch of hypermania prior to the show maybe partly in anticipation

but also finally not anticipating having to travel or having like a thing you know it was like got to be back every couple months to check in with the family do so and so now got to go back for you know stuff with my mom and my aunt and all that then all the logistics for it then going back for the funeral itself but prior to that planning the funeral then a nice trip but still uh you know week and a half after the funeral was going to michigan i was going back going to Michigan and now this is the longest break where I'm not getting ready to go somewhere for something usually something that sucks

and I the live show was kind of the last thing so I think my also meds very inconsistent with travel and sleep and things like that and then I just I don't know. I had like kind of, yeah, that hypermanic period got,

my apartment is very clean. I'll say that. And then the live show happened and I was expecting it. That's typically when it happens. Because I'm the same with like younger sometimes drugs, but usually just alcohol is like my thing where once the high starts, I really struggle to let it go. And the high of the live show was such that I'm like, I want to carry, I usually want to carry that forward and kind of then lose myself over the course of five days or so and then deep depression afterwards. But I think a mix of having the hypermatic episode prior to the show which should have made me worse for the

show but maybe the show just picked me up so much having it prior to that and then we had a really nice warm down from the show i think that helped i think we all i just say to people hyper many obviously not conditional not all due to conditions is partially low but we had a dinner dinner and drinks with all the people involved in the friends that came to the show after and i think that was like a brought me down to earth again a little bit like performer jordan can take a breath the show is our authentic selves but we do have to retain a little bit of our authentic selves it is still a performance we're still on and sitting down Jakey was in town

which was really nice oh yeah to hang out with Jakey catch up a little bit fortunate that the GTA 6 trailer hadn't come out yet because we would have

been there for hours we would lose ourselves to that having chats with Jakey about video games is like we could two years could pass with long beards

and skeletons or something but yeah I'm surprised by doing Two years could pass with long beards and skeletons or something. But yeah, I'm surprised by doing all right. I'm readying myself for a little bit of a drop. I mean, yeah. Which is just the way, I have a psych session this Friday for the first time in three months. So that could be, he doesn't know about my month. So I'm going to have to hit him.

And he's so sweet. He's like the loveliest guy. And he's emotionally measured with stuff like that. So he professionally is good at it. But it does feel like telling a friend a little bit. I'm just like, Sue, my guy. Right. A funny thing happened on the way to the plane.

Um, yeah. This is something. He's like, do you have any news? I'm like, um, yeah, I think I do. So he kicked out the funeral for being cringe. Yeah. What's that? It's like an awkward penguin or whatever.

Dr. Awkward has checked in. Yeah. Pound drum. Ooh. Awkward has checked in. Palindrome. That's not true. Dr. Awkward? Maybe it is. Oh, palindrome. Wait, same way both ways?

Yeah. I believe you, but... Oh, that's cool. I lived in a children's book. I recently read of palindromes. Yeah. Yeah, I read. Yeah, I see it now.

I see it now. I can't wait to i don't really know if i intend to have kids but when i if i did i i'm gonna be such a nighttime story reader oh because i'm just every time i like my niece has like a children's book or something and i'm reading it i'm just like this is sick this is i'm learning a lot about everybody pooping i'm gonna definitely like get down too many adhd rabbit holes when I'm asked about how things work. Or why things are. The kid is just going to be like, too many variables. Oh, yeah.

Why is the sky blue? Okay. Well. To us, it is, of course. Yeah, to us, it is. Let me get a Hank Green video. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of sources. Let me call Uncle Hank.

Yeah, it's the kid be a lot of sources. Let me call Uncle Hank. Yeah, it's the kid again. Sorry, Hank. Yeah, I know I'm asking you to do this again. He just plays a pre-recorded video of himself. That you could have played. That I could have played. You flew him out to your house to do that? Yeah, he hits play on SciShow.

And he goes, here you go. The kid's asleep. No. And it's just me watching it. And I go, ooh, interesting. interesting oh oh scratch is my itch you see that i actually don't have a kid so this is perfect for me yeah it's um i was trying to it's white jarvis that's my kid the figure not your house it's not my house i rented this hey hanks this is your house he's i think probably foundational youtuber for us i think uh yeah i mean i want to even also you actually i want to have hank and john on the show at some point but they never

come out here and uh i'm jealous that i saw curtis did an episode with hank and i was like i'm so i mean not jealous jealous but like i was like i want for me too yeah um supportive and excited yeah yeah i was like oh sick um what's funny is when i see friends and our friends in that sphere especially great white northwise doing like specials and big stand-up events and stuff like that because it's never been a goal so i it's like a different kind of jealousy it's like a hey big thing big thing but then i exciting don't feel the like when do i get that big thing right it's kind of i try you know i try we both try and be balanced with some semi self-aware about that stuff but yeah it's not so much the feeling you can prevent it's kind of i try you know we both try and be balanced with some semi self-aware

about that stuff but yeah it's not so much the feeling you can prevent it's the reaction to it right what you do and say and that's that's the thing especially with um just like bad vibes central uh which is the current town that my brain is in the it's in lockdown unfortunately yeah it's like you can't it sucks because like i was talking to my therapist about this she's like well you have so much self-awareness about this thing and you're like taking steps and you're doing what you can and i'm like yeah it just sucks that the feeling exists like i Like I have the tools to like weather the feeling, but I hate experiencing the feeling. Yeah.

I've saved up the money, but I can't pay off the debt. Yeah. They won't accept the money. Yeah. It's like I can like I can block the jutsu from my, you know, critic brain. Yeah. But it's still I still take chip damage.

You know what I mean? Okay. Now we're into it yeah yeah um and it's like there's no perfect parry yeah that prevents you know that prevents me from taking taking psychic damage dude you're activating my brain right now yeah i'm trying to convince katie to get into fighting games because the two things she's very good at and very... I'll ask her if she can't be talking about it. I don't give a shit. I talk what I want.

I'm famous. I can do whatever I want. Okay, babe? She's really into Pokemon Go Battle League right now. And she's very good at and very into poker. Has been for a long time. And she was showing me uh optimal cheats essentially um she's also playing chess too but primarily poker and poker has

you know game theory optimization yeah similar to oh for sure every other complex game but she is very good at poker and very into the optimization. While she's showing me these sheets, I'm like, this is a fighting game. What you're looking at minus execution, you are looking at frame data. You are looking at tier lists. Yeah. She studies math also. Yes.

For context. She counts. She's so good at counting. Yeah. 10, 20. And I know the rest. I don't even,

yeah, I was going to say you're past me at this point yeah yeah coding requires ones and zeros i saw like one of her things that she was working on and i've taken a lot of math classes too in my day and i was like man i'm so glad i don't have to do this shit it was like because it used it used to be like you know it's like for my degree it was one of the degree requirements counting and yeah. And, yeah, counting. And I was like, okay, I got one through five down. But then, like, there's all these, like, what's six?

It's like a fucking squiggle. But there's six computers here. Yeah. How many am I supposed to use? Yeah. Yes. Six is a vibe. Yeah, and don't even get me started on zero, which is very hard to grasp.

Darren Tad was your teacher. Yeah, doesn't exist. One times one is two one one last one is two man that's not even a taryn tower impression but it's like my impression of jordan's taryn tower impression which is my impression of jamie fox's impression right it's it's uh jamie all the way down right um but yeah so you're trying to get kat, so you're trying to get Katie into fighting games? Trying to get her into fighting games. It is a tall order because it's also, you know what? It'd be like if you're pitching somebody on chess and then you were like, but hear this.

It's not fun for 40 hours. You have to find someone at exactly your skill level. Yeah. Or it won't be fun. Or it won't be fun. Without practicing at home. All the time it sounds pretty cool but yeah you've got to memorize all of the combinations long gone oh okay you have to

memorize the frame data of the moves but i love you i love you please me running down the street wait wait but there's flow charts as well please there's um you know number one, two, three, etc. Yeah, it's just like six. You love that. Teaching a math class and being like one, two, etc. A lot like six. Yeah, it's a lot like six.

So close. Yeah, it's just things, describing things like numbers. I was getting on the highway the other day, and it was kind of a lot like numbers. Like I was getting on the highway the other day and it was kind of a lot like eight. Yeah. Yeah, where it kind of like looped back around. Yeah. I was like, damn, that's crazy.

I don't know what they look like, these numbers, but there's eight guys there, I would imagine. I was watching F1 and they were on a track that was a lot like zero. There was so many more cars than one.

Yeah. And I was like, F those. F, hey, get that. More like f you jacob come back just kidding all right shout outs to austin by the way i don't know if this is what we want to do but he gifted us on his way from the great white north austin one of our team members and editors came down for the live show he gifted us the holy canadian kit kat yeah the canadian kit kat they make it special there those familiar with the lore of the show now you know it's good because jordan puts up with it even though there's french on the packaging yeah no no if you turn if you turn it around yeah

oh yeah no no on this side it's just english English. It's on the wrong side. I feel like everything in Canada, you have to look at it at one angle. It's like an optical illusion. You look at it one way, it's English. One way, it's French. You want to know something jacked up? Have it with me. Yeah, I'll just show you one, too. Oh.

This is an incredible segue and you have no idea oh I'm so sorry the British passport includes the French translation why? on the other side

so what it looks like is January 2020 is when you get the passport and it expires in french january 2024 uh speaking of passports i went yesterday to go get a passport photo taken bad um the guy i went to the ups store and i don't know why people make such a, like, there's all these rules and regulations around passport photos. But in reality, it was just like a guy with like a weird camera. And then he like took the photo from below me because he was a bit shorter than me.

And I said, hey, do you want me to sit down? And he said, no. And so I'm standing up towering over this man while he like takes a photo of me like i'm a fucking titan yeah and then kaiju passport yeah and then yeah it's forced perspective i'm gandalf yeah you go to new zealand yeah and uh i get the photo they print it on like a little printer thing that is also a thing you can commercially buy all none of these things are special they're not like government issued passport generator uh it's just like a canon photo printer and a shitty canon camera and um and the photo looked bad and and this is uh no offense to the guy just doing his job. Say his name.

Okay. Rodrigo. We found him. Yeah, we found you. No. So I was like, I can't do this. And then I was like, well, I can just take – you can take your own password photo in America. And so I came back here and I set up my big softbox against one of the white walls, and I had Austin take a photo of me.

And then we submitted that. It's mentioned in that little frame, right? You have to line it up. Yeah, exactly. You got to crop it in. But yeah, and so now it was previously taken with maybe the world's worst camera, and then I took it with one of our podcast cameras.

And it was too high definition to the point where people are like, this looks like AI. Or like, because the only time people are now seeing hyper, like high definition, high DPI images are when they're generated by AI. And in the image you have an extra tooth that's true yeah no i do have an x and it's a beautiful nude yeah there's a few items that are unidentifiable in the picture yeah it's like a trick yeah it's like name one of these things if you blow your eyes it's two people kissing and if you focus on it's a vase so i i mean i hope they accept it um once they accept it then i'll have i'll release a few more secrets about the photo what could that be it was

ai um yeah it's got like a secret code on it one zero one zero when you look when when the gate agent looks at it like blinds them I guess I have to let you through. It's French, if you look at it with one eye. Do not even bring that up. I told you that in confidence. I have like a striped shirt and a beret on. You look like a burglar. Yeah, I look like the Hamburglar.

Why is burglar attire the same as a mime? Um, because the mimes are trapped in invisible jail. Oh, they're all jailed. Oh, that's when they're grabbing the bars and shaking. Yeah.

We should say if nobody knows this, there's like a pretty significant modern clown and mime scene in LA. LA, you know, that's true. Trendy clown where it's like a pretty significant modern clown and mime scene in LA. LA, you know, trendy clown where it's like alt and maybe, I don't know, you eat a big candy bar. Yeah, some people I know got into clowning, like who were in the improv scene in San Francisco. People were like, oh yeah, I've got a clowning workshop this weekend. And I'm like why do you have that on purpose yeah i'm actually going to invisible jail yeah i've got a clowning workshop so i'll be in a city center uh unable to move and from a four by four square you know it would be fun as having a full mime routine where it begins with you doing like the petty misdemeanor and then you going to

court and then you in like uh you you're acting up in court like doing movements and stuff and then you're held in contempt of court overnight right and it goes all the way until you are released on good behavior you read the bible at one point in between, and then you raise a family. That is probably what it looked like when I was in VR for a week. I just had the headset on, but I was doing all the motions. And I was like, please, no. And then they were like, you're sentenced to VR jail or whatever, which was a place I did go to VR jail.

It's 3D audio of people telling me that I'm going to jail. Yeah, they were all kids, but they were pretty serious. That's the thrill. There was a point in that video where I was in a courtroom and a lot of kids were yelling at me to get to the jury, which I assume is what it's like to serve in a real jury. We've been through it. We've been in gemport i went to uh when i had jury duty um i i got let go they were like you're free to go and i said oh from did they do like jury selection yeah because because like when you're going for jury duty you just might not be selected and then they like they're like we'll see you in two years or whatever pretty crazy idea by the way yeah just being like i don't like this one yeah it's like vetoing it if i didn't care

yeah i don't want this stage yeah he's too mean to my guy all right um we've got a couple things today one of them is the reactions to gta6 specifically from the Tate brothers and Elon Musk. Oh, boy. So we'll get to that. But the first one I want to talk about is this TikTok trend where people are getting bite mark tattoos. Have you seen this? I briefly, when we talked about it the other day, I took a brief look. But then I'm like, I'll save my full reaction for the pod.

I don't know if, I mean, we're going to pull some of these up. And I don't know if there's much more to it than what I just described, but it is still very strange. Well, when I heard it, my brain went, you know,

as a connoisseur of dog shit tattoos, as a, as an owner of quite a few myself, I truly, my instincts were like, okay, what are like, it's like a trendy,

maybe like a goofy, like teen tattoo or something. And I thought it would be a vampire two-dot bite. That's what I was thinking too. Which, cool. I don't know. Not terrible. Yeah.

Would you be mad if I got it? My bite mark? Yeah. For the audio listeners, it is a girlfriend lining up to her boyfriend in a Yankees cap. Very cool. I don't know baseball at all. Is that them? They do baseball?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. of course my favorite crack of the bat they i she's she's sidling up to bite him for real before getting the tattoo this very much seems like uh vampires tricked people like this is what would happen yeah yeah it's like uh this is by big vampire oh dude this is nasty on the the arm too that's like well actually i can't think of anywhere else that would be better yeah the neck i think yeah you just get a neck tattoo that's just like a chunk what if you got like a hyper realistic tattoo of like you know the like makeup that they'll do in like the walking dead or something where somebody has like gashes like the last of us or something or when you watch uh i mean a friend of us so if he should works in like makeup right and there's like those hyper realistic like halloween costumes where half their face is missing yeah and i think you have to get

desensitized to it because when i I see that, might as well be real. I'm just like, oh, Jesus Christ. That's how I am with gore and horror. Like Sawgore? Yeah, Sawgore, which sounds like a name of an ogre or something. I am Sawgore. I love makeup. But there will be a horror movie trope where like somebody's eye gets, something

happens bad to the eye. I'm not even going to describe it, but, uh, it's a, it's meant to make you wince. And I do, even though I know it's fake, just cause it's like, my brain doesn't know. Yeah. Like my instinct doesn't know yet. I know all these people don't exist. Yeah. And I haven't desensitized myself to watching this crap cause I'm not a freak.

I'm not saying. Just kidding if you like it. Can we pause it on that frame? I don't think. Unpopular opinion. I don't think you needed a real person to bite for that. It looks pretty generic. I think what would be better about that is maybe you break up.

Yeah. Well, you know what's nice is that you can get away with something as obscure as like bite marks, maybe even a handprint because you'd be like, it's just a generic handprint. Yeah, me and Sarah aren't together anymore, and I got it at the same time that we were together but whatever also something i take into account when i get my dumbest tattoos very coverable right you can

turn that into a little sun i just don't even know if this tracks to me as a bite mark no it would need more it's not not that i want it to be it's not really visceral enough like yeah like a bite. Prior to the tattoo, it was more like, oh, what the hell? What happened? Right, right. Because this just looks like a few chiclets in a circle. Yeah, it looks like sweet corn.

Yeah. A tattoo of sweet corn. Yeah, I don't really know if it's funny because i guess if um you ever needed to like if you ever forgot who you were in a relationship with and you get all their bite marks you can like look at their dental records it's like a memento tattoo for forensics you like go to the police office and you go like hey could you like pull up the dental records on this you're trying to remember who i dated in 2013 we're arresting you for being annoying uh i would be is disappointed the right way to put it if i was the girlfriend i'd feel a bit embarrassed my teeth look weird i mean look when they're drawn this is not to like um

yuck anybody's yum this is like the same same to me as like tattooing a partner's name. Mm-hmm. You know? Which Risky Biscuit? It's a Risky Biscuit. It's Risky Business. That tattoo's in frame right now. I'm not the biggest fan of.

I think my difference is they were dumb from the start. Yeah. And this is a, even the music in the background is like so emotionally sincere. I like your tattoos though. Thanks man. But it's not like I get it like from the other side. It's like so emotionally sincere i like your tattoos though uh but it's not like i i get i get it like from the other side it's like you know i actually i was thinking the other day what like when and why did i start getting them and there's some life circumstances you know about

that would set that up but i realized it might resonate specifically with you because one of the reasons was i was sick or like one of the things i've always been frustrated by that i think tattoos code against is being branded by especially white people as like light-skinned soft boy and like they love it if you wear glasses and a bow tie right and you're like yeah i'm actually just like, I'm the non-threatening version of the thing you want to be attracted to. It's like when all the NBA players were wearing just glasses rims. Yeah.

Like they were wearing glasses-less glasses. And it was a style. It was like a preppy style. Very college dropout coded. I have so many memories of just like i just including even when i moved here just people being like i just he's so like you know he's like fancy he's like he's like uh you know avoiding the terminology of what they're actually talking about but like i don't know there was especially actually even more so growing up

because it was such a white town i just remember people being like I just love it you're beautiful it's like caramel the skin is so delicate like there's I'm projecting in parts I'm sure some people were not going small bean soft boy but the people my age were saying that like pretty explicitly because they didn't know they were racist and I just feel like yeah I just love it it's like you know like the less like gangster kind of like you know it's like you're a beautiful black creature so yeah it's a beautiful vex creature um i was just rewatching somebody sent me a clip of our reaction to maybe the first n word bruno drops in black white and it's so funny it is ah it's perfectly synced oh yeah that sounds right there was um i saw against my will a comment on a sad ways episode or something where someone was like i was talking about when people

like uh what's the word they something eyes you but but fetishize. Yeah. Like when it's like, Oh, I love your hair. Yeah. Like that type of compliment. Like it's a,

it's one that you have to like receive in a specific context and like know the history of to like feel a certain way about. So somebody was like, they were just giving you a compliment. I swear you guys are so soft. Like, and that's like, I don't know. I don i don't know if i was you know it's like they always say that and it's like but then you go to their twitter and they're like complaining about something and it's like this is people say ethereum is whack it's not it's actually very

cool yeah and it's like oh you sound pretty soft i think actually but i'm not crying i'm laughing actually yeah it's weird it's like because sometimes i feel uh you know this there's an element of colorism to this too so i do not get this the same way i would if my skin was darker but like getting uh you know called like, um, when I've like, not really don't have a history of like raising my voice and, you know, content or anything like that, or like yelling or like actually being angry. Like maybe I'll be a little pissy. Maybe I'll be a little passive aggressive, but like passive aggressive emphasis on passive, but I'm never like, but it's it but there is a thing where um you know black people are like called like like the it's like a microaggression or whatever um which is i do think is a is like a term that people that don't get it find frustrating or at least like find invalid

because of the word micro it's like, you're upset about something so small? It's like, well, I'm upset on a micro level. I'm not yelling and screaming. I'm not particularly upset. It's cringe. Yeah. And you're annoying me. It's like, but it's also the things that happen in the micro add up.

Yes. And so that's why it's like you point out that thing because that thing happens hundreds, thousands of times and it adds up to you know something something greater like a micro more like a micro more it adds up to yes your death i mean that's also like a explicitly aggressive or racist comment is like or not even just racist prejudices of any kind is in some ways it's clearer because more people like fewer people are willing to be that transparent yeah whereas and if somebody does it's like well look at this freak look at this don't we all know that racism is bad as opposed to people are just like oh my god it's like a sheep like yeah exactly which is another comment that i've gotten wrong uh but it's more um cringe than it is anything

else like i'm not losing sleep over this. It's just like. Seeing someone that corny is painful. Yeah, it's true. Corny is worse than being. Or just like lack of, I think there's a certain like lack of awareness and stuff like that. That's like, it's, it's, it's like not in the meme cringe, but it's quite literally cringe worthy. Yeah.

It's like gore. I'm waiting to see it. Yeah literally cringe worthy yeah it's like gore yeah all right let's watch watch what if what if it continued and it was like a perspective like it was like the um you like looked at the the arm and it was like your girlfriend biting you like from the inside hyper realistic yeah escaping like when you look at um those like those chalk drawings where you look at them in an angle it looks like they're in like three dimensions. Oh, like, yeah. You see some like chalk graffiti against a sidewalk and it's like, oh my God, it's Master Chief.

Yeah. And he's standing up. Wait, Jacob, can we briefly pull up the first one again? I think I noticed something. I hope it's not true. Okay. No, I was wrong. For a second, I thought the tattooist had the same arm tattoo, like the stripes. But I guess the perspective was just off.

Yeah, how awkward would that be if you run into somebody else who has your girlfriend's bite mark on them? Yeah, and a kiss and a hug. Yeah, you go, wait a second, hold on, let's go side by side. And then you look, and it's like, hmm, it lines up, and you're like, I have to make some calls. I dated her right after Invisalign. Oh, yeah, damn. Has she been wearing a retainer or something? Oh, my God.

Oh, see, that's the weird one. Ooh. That one's a, probably won't show that one, just because it's a little more. A more visceral bite. That's what I was picturing. Yeah, yeah. On the neck, or the shoulder, I guess. just because it's a little more... A more visceral bite. That's what I was picturing. Yeah, yeah.

On the neck or the shoulder, I guess. They do it, I think, in red. Yeah. Oh, that is way worse. It looks like it never heals. They did it in red. That's crazy. Also, they did it... I feel like you'd get asked about,

like, hey, are you okay? That looks more like one of those 3D scans when you get braces or something. Yeah. Just the structure of it is less flattering than those little staple shapes they did for the other one. Yeah. That one was like, oh, Jesus. Oh, I'm inside the mouth. Is there one more we can watch?

Was there a place I can get this shit or something? Whatever it is. I don't care. It looks like these are ads for the tattoo artists and I don't want to say anything bad about the artists

because they're just doing what they're asked. Go get other tattoos. Well, go get a bite mark tattoo if you're a sick freak. I guess it's the trends. I don't know if we can play the song, but there's this music song playing.

These don't look the same. The convention is shifting a lot. Is that one even partially red, or is or it's just his arm is so fucked up i'm so confused yeah i think it's good these don't even none of these look the same i also think i just personally i don't mind not everyone needs like a sleeve or patchwork or whatever but like there's always something a little strange to me about one really odd tattoo just like yeah on a completely nude body. It makes me think you're in a frat or something.

And there's just like the Sigma symbol or something. And then you're like, I never really wanted one. But my girlfriend wanted to bite me. This is a bad time for me to reveal my bite mark tattoo that I have. Who did it? It's my soul tattoo. A previous co-host of a podcast. I went to the, yeah.

The hell? I went to the tattoo artist and I said, will you bite me? Is it extra? Is it extra if you bite me first? It's on your back and you don't know

that's what they're doing. He's like, what the fuck? I was like, ow. Tattoos really do hurt. In a big kind of sphere. Yeah, no one really talks about it, but they like bite you and stuff. And he's like, wait, what?

Oh yeah, of course. No, like the tattoo gun, it feels like it bites right and the shape that after the tattoo is like a bite it's like a bite mark i don't know how do you you see somebody with a sleeve where did you how did you cover up all the bite marks damn somebody was hungry huh yeah also it's a bite it's not like a like a a nibble or something it's like a medical bite mark it is it's like like yeah say ah kind of bite mark it's like maybe this is going to come off the wrong way but it feels twilight coded yeah like it feels like it's from a bygone era i've placed my ownership on you all right well, I don't know what the hell that is.

But another thing. Once we hit a certain goal on the Patreon, of course, I will get one. You are also. Yeah, I'm going to get one on my butt. I'm going to get one right on my nose. Yeah, I'm going to get one on my. There were ones where they're doing it on their butt. I figured we couldn't show those.

Yeah. That's tricky. On the Patreon, I'll post a TikTok of somebody of somebody biting my ass and then I get a tick tock. Lucky patron. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. There's a specific tier.

20 spots available. That was unwise. 20 spots. Yeah. Um, okay. So GTA six trailer, uh, came out 6 trailer came out.

Ah. That was it. And, you know, after 10 years of, you know, one of the most successful, most profitable games of all time. The most profitable piece of entertainment ever in human history. Oh, well, there you go. Isn't that fucking insane? That is insane.

GTA Online is a big part of that. I think that's way more. Right, because it's's like total it's probably got to be in the billions because it's um it's been hundreds of millions of dollars a year for like several years right the uh reason that people knew even before the announcement of trailer was coming out that there was going to be a gta 6 trailer this year and it was probably going to come out in the next two years is because 2k the publisher posted uh expected revenue and it's seven billion dollars it's increased by something like that like billions of dollars and they're like wow feeling good about nba this year feeling like pretty psyched about though if you pop back over to that uh trailer thing um we're not going to watch the trailer

because uh we've heard that they might claim us, but our friend Alana took the risk. So watch your back, Alana. Though the views, very tight, very good. Very good stuff. I want to watch the trailer because I haven't watched it yet. Do you know where the game is set?

I heard they're going back. They're going back to San Andreas. No, welcome home, dude. They're going to they're going back to san andreas uh no welcome home dude they're going uh to la but but what do they call it your to san francisco to florida they're going back to miami yeah vice city baby city okay yeah um well that's not my home but uh vice city uh but yeah let's let's watch it I'm gonna watch it Is what I meant to say

You don't get to see it One day old 109 million views Yeah broke Mr. Beast's record Do we have more than For sad boys? Come again? Do we have more views for sad

I don't check the analytics No Yeah man It's okay if we have less It's like the biggest video ever I just thought I think we're close no yeah we're super duper close those analytics oh jesus christ don't know um so uh trailer came out broke all the records some of our favorite people uh have had responses to this um god i'm remembering two of these. One I want to look at is, oh yeah, so

first of all, the reason that they dropped the trailer early was because of a leak. And they did it in response to a leak and now no one's going to remember the leak because they released the trailer for a game that comes out in a year for this reason, I think.

Because someone leaked it anyway anyway there was a lead producer uh who's like son's friend like leaked footage and stuff from his computer it's so bold which is wildly bold you have to come from a level of i'm guessing level of privilege that makes you think you are invincible. They will have you killed. They have the most money. Yeah. It's like the Wizards of the Coast and the Pinkertons from that. Because a guy was mailed something by them. By them.

Yeah. And the, oh yeah. So one of the responses, this is just whatever, but it's funny. and the oh yeah so one of the responses this is just whatever but it's funny is from Aiden Ross can we click this first link Jaiku Aiden Ross is doing a live with someone I

oh okay wait why would they wait scroll up Rockstar employee leaked the GTA 6 storyline on Aiden Ross's stream why would they... Wait, scroll up. Rockstar employee leaked the GTA 6 storyline on Ada Ross' stream. Why would they do that? That seems like that would put their job in danger. What's going on, man?

Do they just not... Come on. I'm confused. Also, 2K's famously litigious. If anyone was going to fuck their life up... Also, you got to crop out your battery life. That always blows my mind. i'm so self-conscious about it just ever yeah okay we can hit play you want to know all the details yeah yeah yeah

the good juicy stuff okay so it's going to be lucia is the main character and she's going to be the main character she's going to be in prison right i don't like that we have a girl as the main character i don't like that she's she's iconic don't worry she's it's not going to be like typical it's going to really blow people away but like bro like i feel like they're doing that shit to adapt to 2020 23 and shit like bro we don't need no girls of character bro i hear you but trust me it's not going to be like that first of all this was confirmed literally years ago they revealed that it was female protagonist oh but it's not It's both of them. Ah, yeah.

Because, and look, not to be cynical about it. Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's no longer that, but that was the original leak. They, it's rock stars, probably not going to take the risk of not having a male protagonist at all. Yeah. At least a co-star. They already had the tech to, you know, hop around in GTA 5 or whatever. Just imagine having the instinct.

It's within seconds. He's like immediately like, oh, that pisses me off, bro. He's become that kind of reactionary. It's so funny just being so young and being so boomery. And being just like, his face changes kind of so fast, I didn't even know the netcode was that good on live oh man come on it's a woman but like and then all his chats probably like www yeah and he's like okay chat you like that okay cool keep saying those things do you think i'm cool but i'm just a

but i'm just a quick outwork comedian right? Drop the mic. Drop the phone. He's going to be the next stream guest. Which one of them? Matt Rife. I feel like he's got to show up on Aiden Ross' stream at some point. He's going to be the next Sad Boys guest, guys. Make sure to hit that subscribe button. Matt Rife coming on January 6th.

We'll be doing this. Stop it. Also the instinct to be like, hey, the reason they're doing this is to adapt to 2023. What year do you think we're in? Yeah, that's such a funny thing. It's like they're just trying to make something that's like of the time that we live in.

That actually is always the weirdest part of, you know how people, even kind of boomers, know that socially, racism is wrong. Like they know that 99% of people know that like, racism is a thing you have to say is wrong. It doesn't matter how you perform that, or like what your praxis is, it's just the rules. Like racism is wrong, the Civil War happened,

states rights, but also, you know, here's the is it's just the rules like racism is wrong the civil war happened states rights but also you know here's the law here's the rules racism is wrong but we solved it exactly but people will do just do completely racist things but then still announce the clan you know it's like it's like you have to follow the rules you have to you're not allowed to wear that outfit but you can do everything right they always have to justify it with some kind of like principle like well it's because you know they're recasting the little mermaid it's cynical and i'm like first of all everything's cynical yeah rockstar doesn't care about you they don't like you you're annoying to them yeah look at the fucking squid game reality show it It's like everything is, it's just the money's the motive, right? But the reason they're doing it, they always seem to forget.

It's like, non-guys buy GTA. Yeah. Everyone buys GTA. GTA is, like you said, one of the biggest media properties ever to exist. Like, number one, I don't know if the Howes brothers are writing this one as well, but let's just say the Howes brothers, or one of the How media properties ever to exist. Like, number one, I don't know if the Houses are writing this one as well, but let's just say the House Brothers, or one of the Houses, they wanted to make a story with a female protagonist.

That pretty much always has to be a part of it, or else you just can't do a very good or authentic job of it. You could not make the same argument for, like, Red Dead Redemption, they're just adapting because people wanted a game in the Old West. Yeah.

It's like, well, people did want a game in the Old West. They wanted to make a game in the Old West, and they made a a game in the old west yeah it's like well people did want a game in the old west they wanted to make a game in the old west and they made a good game in the old west true it's not like like what is bothering you about it oh that guy's like pronouns yeah it's like it's such a such a surface level critique it's just vibe space it's just i don't like women that's all it is but what's so funny about this is uh the reaction from uh elon musk uh who famous um famous edgy edgelord uh king of um sticking it to the libs the king of sting baby king baby. The king of sting, dude. He doesn't let anybody tell you what he's going to do. Elon Musk, the roast master general, they call him. Yeah, he was asked in a Twitter thread about GTA V,

and his response is so funny. It felt like it took me back to Fox News being upset about the hot coffee mod. Yeah yeah like uh what was that that was the San Andreas yeah where um by the way just like my point is that Grand Theft Auto has been a controversial video game for the entirety of its lifetime and the controversies have always been like from pearl clutching conservatives yeah and one of the controversies uh was this thing called the hot coffee mod where someone discovered that you could modify the game beyond like so basically there were assets in the game of a of a sex scene. And it was not accessible.

A playable off-screen sex scene. No penetration on screen. Yeah, playable off-screen sex scene that was removed from the game but was still in the game data. People found it, hacked it back into the game. And then there was a controversy about that to the point that it escalated and they had to change the ESRB rating of the game.

So insane. And then they were able to re-release the game without it and get back to like a T rating or something like that. Yeah. Oh, it went from, I think, R to X. Yeah. Ironically. Or like the ESRB, it's like M to A. Oh, yes, that's right.

A is adults only. I mean, also Australia and a lot of Europe are so soy and beta. I mean, in the UK, we couldn't get Bully, the other one's the game, because it was called Bully. And then it was released under, well, I mean, there's partly on Rock 72K, horrible name. I love that game.

It's a Latin name that means dog eat dog and it's Canis Canum Edit. Oh. It's Canis Canum Edit and the logo is just like the school logo. Oh.

What an unappealing idea. Yeah. Hey, do you guys want to go to private school? Pay for it. Pay for that game, children. do you guys want to go to private school? Pay for it. Pay for that game, children. Do you guys want to go to Latin private school? Oh, boy, yeah.

Put down San Andreas. It's time to learn. So Grand Theft Auto, for those who are not familiar, is a game about crime. The title of it is a crime. You do it five times uh you uh one of the bit like you do you do missions oftentimes uh committing crimes heists is it's heat the gta5 is the movie heat it's a heist movie yeah and uh and one of the things that kids did is like for all of time is fuck around with the game hack in all the guns and stuff

blow things up get the cop there's a star system where the cops can you know uh basically if you you do a small crime you know you one star you do a bunch of crimes or big crimes five star then they're sending SWAT team helicopters you know all the stuff after you as a kid that becomes its own game now you're like i want to defeat the cops i want to hide from the cops whatever you're putting in the all weapons hack and sometimes invincibility and then just doing that was i would say most like younger people's gta oh yeah do the rest of the game yeah no a lot of people didn't play the missions and to a lot of people that's like their childhood and uh and I'm not here to make a point about violence in video games, but this is an old take that this is what GTA is.

This is my point. Um, and, uh, and so Elon had like the most baffling statement. I don't know why you would ever say this in public. His tweet is tried GTA five 5 but didn't like doing dude it's such a pathetic thing to say i don't believe it's a video game

why is what on that moral barometer why is murder in other settings fine? Dude, Harvest Moon, loved it. Hate farming as a concept. I'm not trying to go out and be a farmer. I hate agriculture. So why would I play this game? What is this corner? Phoenix Wright, dude, I don't want to be a lawyer.

I'm not a fucking narc, bro. L.A. Noire, I don't like living in the past. I couldn't, I couldn't, I didn't want to defend anyone who was potentially a criminal so i couldn't play the lawyer game where i was a defense attorney didn't um gta5 required shooting police officers in the opening scene just couldn't do it it's i just imagine have you seen that yeah thank you for your service sir Have you seen that? Yeah. Thank you for your service, sir. Have you seen that meme of the... Jacob, can you type in little boy gun stock photo?

It's the... Oh, yeah. It's the second row. The second row. And then to the left, red t-shirt. The Winnie the Pooh guy. And then scroll down to the like photos. Go to the second.

Yeah, this is... This is... Elon... Can't do it. This is Elon playing GTA, dude. It requires doing crime. Yeah, he's like, no, I don't want to do it, dude. I respect the law.

Winnie the Pooh clothed kid, almost shooting, getting upset and crying with a gun in his hand. It's just so... I think what maybe rings so hollow about it is he is lying. Not lying that he didn't play GTA 5. I don't even care, whatever. But he is lying

that that is the ethical reason. Yeah. He's just... It feels like he's pandering. Literally, it's, who's he performing? It feels like he's pandering. Like, no, literally, it's like, is he about to run for president? Like, who is he looking

for the approval of? This is a weird track that he's on actually right now, which is like, where some of the speculation that he's trying to go for, like maybe run in the general 2028 or something like that.

No, that's absolutely insane. Because there's just a lot of pandering to a base that largely doesn't know who he is. Like the conservative voter base maybe has heard his name. But if you're outside the Twitter, Facebook obsessed sphere, you're mostly offline. You think he's always on it. Or you might think he is a senator or something. You grossly overestimate how much other people are looped in.

It feels like, I don't know, but he's running out of people who think he's really smart. Because I think he keeps doing things that counter that narrative. He keeps being dumb. Yeah, he keeps doing wild stuff where people are like, oh, I thought this guy was supposed to be a genius. Because when we had never heard him talk and just heard him launching rockets and making cars, we thought he was the next coming of, I don't know, a big old smart guy.

We wanted his branding really early on was, I'm kind of like a real, I'm kind of like a real life Iron Man. Yeah, he's like Tony Stark, dude. It'd be like if Tony Stark shit himself every time he flew. And we eventually were like, I don't think he's that a real life Iron Man. Yeah, he's like Tony Stark, dude. It'd be like if Tony Stark shit himself every time he flew. And we eventually were like, I don't think he's that good at being Iron Man.

Yeah, have you seen Avengers? See how many fucking civilians die? Dude, have you rewatched the first Iron Man any time recently? No. The first time, first two times Iron Man does anything, it is fighting miscellaneous Middle Eastern terrorists.

Unnamed, deliberately. And his motivation before he gets captured, the reason he's fighting back, is because he's in a Humvee in, again, anonymous Middle Eastern country. And one of the, I think if you're a service, by the way, one of the soldiers in there was like, Tony Stark, I'm like a huge fan, my kid loves you. And then he dies in the explosion. And then his backstory is like his father was like a war profiteer. Yeah, well, he's in Afghanistan because he's a weapons dealer. Yeah, he's a weapons dealer.

He's an arms manufacturer. And then the first time he does anything in the full suit, with the paint job, everything, he flies down to just somewhere, to just some camp, and is just murdering, air quotes, terrorists. Oh, yeah. And just shooting on them.

They can't hurt him because of his special suit. Yeah. He's GTA-ing. I mean, can I just say thank you for your service, Mr. Stark? Thank you for doing crime for our benefit. Thank you for saving us from the fictional Middle East. Me personally. The fictional terror threat.

I hate doing crime. Couldn't do it. Yeah, personally, yeah. Especially war crimes. No, it couldn't be me, dude. You're quite a shooting police officer. I quit, yeah. That's so fucking funny.

And then the Tay Brothers spoke out about GTA six, but like, before we look at this, we also have to list some of the things that the Tate brothers have spoken, have also spoken out about like books, books and movies, recording of history, music,

just things in general. Oh, by the way, speaking out against music is Andrew Tate's entire rap career, which is an affront to the concept of music. I can see if I had that rap career, I would want to eliminate the medium of music. I would want to get rid of audio.

It's do or die. Suicide. I hate music, and that's why I'm making music I hate GTA 5 because I cried shooting the police that's his slam poetry session that he also had to have removed

he was at the slam poetry set with with Rose from Black White oh yeah dude he's a def jam People don't know that. All right, can we look at the tape, brothers? New GTA 6 is out. Have you ever played any GTA?

This is a genuine question. I've never played any of them. I believe that I played the first one. That's like a top-down, bird's-eye-view, kind of 2D game without any real graphic violence back when I was 10 or 11. I just come back from now whenever it came out i do recall that but you know what i want to speak about gta6 while while you're on the topic because

now we're actually talking about something okay it's got rumble at the top left so that means that this grid of photos they have is from the stream itself it's pretty fucking telling that them not liking it it's just photos of black people. That's just all this is. It's none of the vistas, none of the missions. The protagonist isn't in it at all. It's just like, this is scary, I feel like. I love that Tristan Tate played GTA 1.

I don't even know if he really played GTA 1, if he's pretending to remember what GTA 1 was, or he's giving himself an out for the narrative, where he's like, well, this one didn't't have any violence I don't think that's true well I don't wait yeah was he saying the first game doesn't have violence yeah he kind of implied that we could go back to we could just watch the whole clip again but um I do think it's funny that he's essentially like yeah I I haven't played a grand theft I played it when it was a text-based adventure. I played it when it was in black and white on DOS, yeah. But I can't remember.

I've never shot in anyone in a game. He sounds like he's either played all of them and knows it very well, or knows nothing about it and checked, because that's a common thing as well. People would be like, oh, Sonic, he's... There's somebody called Rose or some shit,

and Knuckles, and they're friends. Yeah, Amy Rose is his girlfriend, and Sonic Boom, they were a bunch of bandages. It's like, I don't... What is it? He's running or something? Dr. Robotnik, who's also known as Eggman? Yeah, also known as Eggman.

Knuckles is an echidna, in case you were curious. This isn't my kind of shit. I actually played it when it was um when it was a uh a tabletop paper rpg i remember you used to play a little man in a red hat trying to rescue a princess and teaming up with your brother now if rescuing purity from evil is this a real take that's happening right now this is also a super is also a super old, this is truly, I'm going to tell you when these talking points last happened in my mind. The year is 2010, Mass Effect has just come out.

The headline is Sex Box on Fox News. That's right. Because you can romance characters in off-screen relationships in Mass Effect. And games are only made for children is the claim, which is not the case at all. It's like cartoons are made for children. Can you believe the stuff they're putting on The Simpsons? Can you believe the stuff they're putting on Family Guy? Adults buy games so much more to the point where Nintendo

is the only place with the market share to make games for kids anymore. Yeah, and so it's remarkable to me that they're going... I remember when games were like you could be a wizard and now you've got you're you're going to a strip club and and someone's twerking you know i can actually remember a time where you were you were a red hat and it's this year it's uh the

latest mario that came out a month ago wonder i think and it came out a month ago. Yeah, Super Mario Wonder, I think. And it came out a month ago. Also, around the same time that that red hat man was saving a princess, there were games like Custer's Revenge where just look it up in text before you look up the video. It is more explicit and offensive and triggering than anything. Than anything that's ever been in Grand Theft Auto, ever in the history of the series. So much so that it's literally illegal to you cannot publish that now including at x yeah it is like it's you know people can probably infer and I don't recommend most people I don't recommend it but I'm just but it's just a counterpoint to this concept that that games

were always this like squeaky clean thing yeah I remember when books were a nice tidy little story about a guy with a long beard flipping over gambling tables. I remember when books were, they were small, they were square, and they had names like Miss Sunshine and Mr. Mustache and shit. Everyone poops. Nothing bad happened in any of the books.

I remember a time where art was drawn on the cave wall and was supposed to represent a big elephant I saw. I remember a time when there was a book about a curious little monkey and he wore a raincoat. A yellow hat.

But not anymore. What is going on? What is going on? What is going on? Not anymore. I remember a time. I remember a time. Where I interviewed that guy that said he did crack with Obama. All right.

Let's keep playing. I'm not a fan of anyone under the age of 18, 21 maybe, playing video games where the goal is to shoot police officers I just don't think that's good for society with all the amazing graphics and engines and whatever people put into these video games

I feel like you could create a better objective with the game you know maybe you are the police officer. Maybe... Those games exist. Yeah, absolutely, of course.

They should make it so GTA's for 18 and above. Yeah, it's a... Isn't GTA rated M? Yeah. Or R or whatever. I don't know how it works. M in ESRB, which is 17 plus. Yeah, that's interesting.

Okay. Well, it should be for 21. 21 is wild. So funny. It's such a funny... I think it should be 26. You can't be on your parents' insurance before you play it. It feels weird to make this statement about any media

because why stop at video games why not i don't think there should be any movies where any bad things happen they're also doing that like faux intellectual thing pioneered by uh the dark professor jordan p peterson or whatever the hell meet the meat man beef beef daddy he uh where like you take a piece of media really simple media for babies and then you over intellectualize it by representing something as purity Usually any kind of feminine presence in the game you make that purity you make it ultra conservative and then you take like the mission being sure, you just you just make it into a Cinderella that's all you make it specifically into like saving you from a tower

or something yeah the only media reference point that they know from before like 2005 it's just funny to because even on its face without extrapolating anything that isn't said in this video they are comparing a game for children to a game for late teens and adults yeah it's like the mission is ever yeah it's like they're mission. Is there ever, was there a movie where they were? Yeah, if they're comparing a movie that's rated G to a movie that's rated R, quite literally, because,

you know, that's the same, the same age ranges. And you can't deliver the same idea in a different way. Like, GTA 5 is just about like,

it's about three guys that suck. Like, they're really bad people and they're miserable because they're bad. And then at the, well,

mild spoilers, it's is like one of the two worse of them die. That's the choice. Spoilers for a 10-year-old game. And actually when I was like a shitty college guy when that came out, I was just like this, this is deep. This is actually wild. I can't believe that people don't understand the deeper themes. I'm like, no, it's just about people not being great to be around.

I couldn't get through Shooting Cops, so I didn't play it. Oh, right, yeah. It actually involves crime. I'm realizing now, no. This is before I understood the thin blue line. It does involve crime, yeah. Thank you for your service for not playing it, actually. Yeah.

Austin, thank you for your service for not playing it actually yeah um austin thank you for your service for not playing it shout out did you play it flipping the salute the other way i played metal gear solid which is a game for patriots yeah dude that's a pro government game i played a i really like peace walk Walker where you build a private military organization because that's the opposite of a gop. I love that that game has no subtext about how bad war is. It's about a big pog.

Yeah, it's about how war and war machines are like super dope, actually, and war crimes are sick. They just don't watch movies, right? That was always one of their things. Yeah, that's it. I don't think they're allowed to have media criticism when the last time they interacted with media

was when they were 10 years old. What do they enjoy? Cigars. Yeah, pretending to like cigars and whiskey. Yeah. And karate or whatever. I've got no time for media. I'm too busy fighting evil.

I'm busy talking about when I was in MMA. Maybe this is not important or not. It's president gay. I thought I might. Yeah. All right. I didn't want to see it. That's interesting.

Enough is enough. It's GTA or whatever. Look up gay. Jacob right clicked on the post. All right, Jacob. Do look up gay real quick. Wait, that's us. Immature people saying President Gay is trending.

It's just people asking why it's trending it's an oriboros maybe that's like when um when when trending topics were even worse after elon took over weird things like the would train and then everybody would just be talking about that i think we were hanging out yesterday and it was just just like we saw like hasan trending and i just tapped him like what's his own trending and it's just when usually he's streamed or is streaming yeah and a bunch of people mention him yeah just happens every single day bro it's every day bro um all right well do we have any uh like good closing thoughts on this. That shot of the baby with the gun. I will probably tweet that thing about Elon later with that boy as the quote tweet.

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