Sad Boyz - Becoming Dominant Men (w/ Kurtis Conner)

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

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What's up guys, it's Bing Bong and George in the morning and we're coming to you live with Kordas. All the names you just said were wrong. We've got a new actor on the scene, he's doing a Vimeo kind of guy or some shit. You just did that video where you cured blindness and I just wanted to ask you about that. So right off, do you guys know what you're doing? Of course dude, and the stuff you're putting out right now. So you think i'm jimmy jimmy you think i'm mr beast mr no dude hey look it's funny when he actually says his

own name dude it's like in the movie where they're like it's like a this is a real stranger thing when they're like so it's the see you in the day after tomorrow and you're like that's the movie that's the movie name yeah yeah that's name. Yeah. Yeah. That's like when Mr. Beast says his classic line, Mr. Beast time. Jimmy Beast. Jimmy Beast. Imagine if he did have a, welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis.

I'm Jordan. I'm Mr. Beast. And today we're joined by the inimitable, let's go with that word, Curtis Conner. Thanks for having me. It's nice to be back on the podcast in person this time. You know, it is incredible that we are in person because we haven't even done the podcast in person that much in the past few years. Also, it is sickening how long ago do you want to guess how

yeah do you want to guess the remote app uh was it like three years ago or something it was two and a half years two and a half years yeah it was 2020 because yeah i remember it was like during covid so yeah it was such a strange crazy i'm so like fucking young you know i know i had backs don't hurt i'm not tired all the time yeah i don't have like constantly new medical conditions and the suggestion is like i don't know i don't know hey i'm not a doctor yeah there were some good yeah i didn't even have a mustache back then we we i do uh we have some notes on our on our episode that we last did with you. We fucking did it. It only took three years.

And I want to go through some of the things that we talked about because it is an interesting snapshot in time. Okay. One of the first things that I want to talk about is we talked about tattoos. Okay. And Jordan said that he doesn't have tattoos and his goal is to be tatted up yo and look at you now look at this guy he's in prison look what happened yeah that's all you have to do really um that's great sorry i i'm looking at these notes for the first time and i just read curtis's sister memorizing mandarin version of bet on it is that a thing

yeah yeah she did that that sounds like an ai riddle that yeah it sounds like one of those ai conversations between trump and like joe biden playing minecraft yeah she did that my sister memorized the mandarin version of bet on it before the movie like came out somehow she had like a leaked mandarin version of bet on it to what end i like i thought you were insinuating she memorized it before the like high school musical too was she like when the movie came out she was like i don't know why but i know a song that sounds just like this one but it's in yeah she somehow found like a leaked well she had the english version too but she also had the leaked version of the mandarin

one i have it on good authority that the movie did leak uh yeah and i personally did download it before before it came out and i did learn the dances and mandarin uh dances in mandarin i went to i went to a party where we were watching the movie at its like disney channel premiere and i already knew some of the dances and people were like what the hell is going on and i was like yeah well i pirated it you went to a party for the high school musical 2 premiere in like 2007 no it was more like a party at like will's house okay so it was like a separate jam people were like we should put on no one else was no one was there it was just jarvis yeah he just said when he dances he said it's time to party broke into my friend's house while he's at a time i

watched high school musical too and a friend speaks fluent mandarin the only version he had captions are very wrong we talked about work visas oh hell yeah what a rush dude common topic of conversation here on sad boys every night not much has changed and for some reason

we talked about Slippy from Star Fox 64 and his giant fraud dick oh yeah he had a giant dick I don't know if that's canon or what in the last two and a half years has miyamoto come out with any honesty i haven't heard any murmurs from him about the he's actually confirmation he's been criminally silent since yeah because didn't we have a joke about something with the master hand or something

oh or like there's like two now for the giant one yeah yeah and it's crazy you ever well stop doing that dude she's for the non-video watches oh jesus christ no we can't send to that i'm the guest i'm the guest i do what i want fair enough um that do like the idea that like uh you're like hey you want to give me a handy do you want it master style or crazy melee brawl ultimate what do you feel i don't know i'm just now thinking about the concept that like master hands whole vibe is he's just like this, right? And then Crazy Hand is like, he's just having fun. Oh, yeah.

It's like he's got arthritis. Yeah. He's weaker. Oh, God. You punched me so many times. There is one, right? It's like after a sweep or something goes like, fuck. Yeah, right.

It's like one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's like he can feel pain yeah which is crazy because it's just a sentient why is that the the boss of that do we know yeah i think it's because the premise of the original smash brothers is that they were like oh you're picking up the yeah they're like we don't want to get picked up anymore yeah it was kind of like if woody just when andy was around was like fucking around around it is like the boss of a toy story fighting game being andy himself right like you have to fight a

giant human boy they finally uprise against him yeah it is so weird because if i was the master like if that is like a hand going to pick if i was going to pick up one of my toys and they started fighting back i'd stop like i wouldn't like keep going like come on i'll get you like i made out of plastic i would not try and smash yeah exactly yeah and one thing i certainly wouldn't do is make a gun with my hand and have rockets i forgot he does that three fights later he's like oh my other hand oh yeah i have to wave dashing what if his like actual like final one of his special moves is like he actually has a holding a real it's still regular it takes up the whole screen yeah it's just a jaw yeah if i was in a situation where i had to fight my toys

though it would terrify me and i would be very scared and i would leave my home yeah it'd be terrifying i would move yeah that's just fine you can have it um this is all yours you're on the list now one thing curtis that i want to talk about from this episode um from the last episode yeah from the last one that we did yeah like really good one uh-huh is is uh you know it was i don't know where it is here but i have i did read it you were like man i want a tour oh i said that yeah and you were like i'm like stuck indoors well and you're like no i can't i can't stop yeah because you were lying and you just you were trying to show off but you coveted was like yeah i'd love to talk but i'd freaking

because like you've been you've been on tour we saw you yeah yeah yeah i did a the fucking i think the longest tour anyone's ever done i I think. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I think of like all time, I think. That's what it felt like. When did you start touring again? Like the first time post-COVID? You didn't really believe in COVID, but you were a part of it. No, I never really thought it was real, but I...

You thought it was like a toy in Andy's closet. Yeah, it's not. Just smack the backseat. Yeah. Ouch. Andy's closet. Yeah, it's not just smack the back. Yeah, yeah, I think the first tour I did was like late late 2021. Okay, and then yeah, and then the big tour is 2022, but the 21 tour was like everyone was like we were like mask mandatory because it was like still pretty gnarly. Yeah, and that was weird. I like didn't like that. I thought actually your anti-masker era yeah you're like i'll say it no

i get it for like safety but for like comedy it's like so strange because it's like you're not you're not getting half the reaction yeah it's like you can hear it but it's like you know it's like doing stand-up for Bane. Yes. Oh, good one. It do be like that. It's funny because it's true. He's just like me for real.

So guys, I'm here in Gotham. I know what you mean though. Like there are things, experiences that I've had in my life that have made me feel like an anti-masker yeah low-key it's like hard to like not feel like that sometimes yeah well because i uh had a small back injury a few months ago and the physical therapy place that i go is still mask mandatory and that is totally fine and okay and cool but doing exercises and stuff as a mouth breather if i if i breathe in too too hard i like suck the mask and i i've like definitely had a conversation with my physical

therapist and i was like i hate how this sounds but like this is very difficult for me with the mask on she's like no i understand and i was like thank you how this sounds but like this is very difficult for me with the mask on she's like no I understand and I was like thank you for hearing me thank you I'm going to take it off yeah and yours too I can't I can't hear shit I'm gonna take everyone's off ma'am

go to the receptionist I have pre-existing conditions where my back freaking kills but I never took the mask off okay it's mask mandatory. It took me longer to catch my breath because I had to take smaller breaths. It's like training at high altitude or in the hyperbolic time chamber. Something like that.

That could be good for boxing probably. Actually, the thing I'm realizing is that I should have, before boxing, gotten the surgery that allows me to breathe through my nose and I didn't do that so whoopsie whoopsie yeah just take one huge breath before the yeah but afterward holding your breath the whole time yeah that Tom Cruise scene like in Mission Impossible where he had to hold his breath for 45 minutes yeah yeah I just have like one of those five

minutes that's where he went insane Kate Winslet holds the record past tom cruise or at least maybe up to her avatar it's like a 15 minute breath holding sequence for titanic who's the one in avatar who's the actress in avatar 2 that was a bunch of no i know but um there's one specific one that i'm trying to know nateri yeah she's really good at holding her breath someone for avatar also they held her breath for like nine minutes which is like obnoxious that is a really long time you try to impress you know what i mean yeah is it kate win hold up yeah no that's kate wins in the new episode i don't know honestly maybe because i feel like they'll cast these amazing actors and then they're just blue.

You can't even tell who they are. I was just watching VFX artist react, Corridor Cruise. Oh, I watched that one too, yeah. With the guy from Weta Digital. They finally found out how that hand-tying the leather shot is done. It is magic. It is magnificent what technology can do. It was Kate Winslet.

Wow, she went back. She went back to the water. Didn't make it this time. Too long in the water. My favorite thing about that Avatar Corridor Crew video was that I found out that people close to James Cameron called Jim. Yeah.

Mr. Beast style. Mr. Beast. Do you think people close to MrBeast call him James? They call him James Cameron. He is the king of the world. He is the James Cameron of YouTube. I did the intro of the show instead of saying this, but to harken back to the conversation right before we started,

right before I did the intro of the show, I think it would be funny if MrBeast shouted, it's MrBeast beast time like from somewhere within earshot of like the person that he was about to give like ten thousand dollars it's time to mr beast and that's like what how tall are you if it's five seven here's a guy he's just a free guy have you seen those videos um that mr beast is putting on instagram lately where he will find somebody in like a grocery store and he'll be like, hey, do you want to go on a date in Paris? Oh, yeah, I've seen those.

Like, I'll give you $100 if you get me a baguette from Paris. Yeah. And they like fly to Paris and bring back bread or something. Yeah. One that I saw recently was he paid two separate people to go on a blind date in Paris or something like that. Yeah, my friend Jack did one of those.

He was like the guy giving them money. I don't know how he scored that gig. He was like, yeah, do you want to do this? Oh, do they make it not Mr. Beast for like optics? Because now people see Mr. Beast and they're like, can I have an island instead, please? Yeah, I think so. Can I have a squid game instead?

Could that be me? Can I have a squid game? Can I have a one squid game, Mr. Beast? Without the dying, though, is my goal. My hope. Yeah, well, that's fine. Yeah, it's a lot of money. Risk it for the biscuit.

When you've got Canadian healthcare available to you. Yeah, easy for you to say. If you die, it's easy for you if you die just like that battlefield thing you know just zaps you back to life every time and you're good thanks not to get political rest how you feel about justin trudeau you get you can get rezzed in canada dude america's really fucking up with the health care system yeah it's called sekiro system if you beat aiboss you get another life back yeah there's a doctor that it's like fortnite style he just goes like that yeah for like 10 seconds there's like heart containers hidden throughout canada yeah everyone has a jar a glass jar filled with a fairy inside if you die you're chill yeah you get hit by a car and then a fairy comes down and revives you. Yeah, whoa.

I gotta be more careful crossing the street. If you permanently die, you do that perfect lateral turn in Minecraft. Just fall straight on your side. Yeah, whenever someone dies in Canada, the first thing is like, why didn't they have their fairy on? What the hell? That is a thing that happens. Anytime a tragedy

occurs, be it someone gets robbed know someone gets robbed or someone gets hurt or something there's always reply guys on twitter who are gonna who will go like that wouldn't happen to me yeah and it's like yes okay yeah i'm built i would simply counter using my training yeah it's always like and that's why i keep a big gun on me at all times you know what i mean i can break my rpg yeah that's why i wear chain me at all times. You know what I mean? So I can prep my RPG. That's why I wear chain mail at all times. Yeah, it's like I would never be the victim of crime because of my training.

It'd be very hard to mug a knight. Yeah, true. Knights don't have cash on them either. They're pauldrons, bro. Yeah, true. Potions and shit. So when you get robbed these days... Sure. We can talk about this like

like if yeah i'm glad we could finally yeah it's probably a lot too political it's like i don't carry cash oh dude i would be so i lost you don't get anything with my wallet other than like my insurance cards and credit cards i literally lost my wallet like four days ago and it i haven't even done either i just i went on like was fargo i'm like i'll just turn the cards off yeah you're fine nothing of value in there yeah i guess like what there'd have to be like a gift card shit well there's like tap yeah exactly you gotta go if you have like a square like terminal you could like grab their cards and tap a payment and maybe that just goes to you, I guess. It's like a little gift. Oh, yeah. You're a merchant on Square.

Yeah, that's the new way to... Using it to do crime. That's the new way to mug someone. That's actually kind of sick. It's like instead of being pickpocketed on a crowded train, you just get a charge on your phone and it's a guy who scurries away with a Square register. Can you check your transaction?

It says train robber on it. $15. Not again. Public transport scaling up. I can't believe he made me tip 28%. All he did was steal my shit. He didn't deserve that too. Bought himself an Oyster card.

I can see where he's going. Respect. Hey, sorry, bro. Needed to get home with this wallet that's yours understandable i get it have you have you ever been like robbed or you're like your stuff stolen either of you guys not no not in a realistic adult sense like as a kid in like multiple times as a kid i've had people like i've been playing like magic the gathering at the lunch table and then i had a kid like grab my deck and run away wow and i was like this sucks and then i

have to like chase him down right we go to the same school yeah i'll see you tomorrow there was and i've talked about this before there was a guy who stole my genzo um growing up that sucks and it was like a very sentimental like card to me um for various reasons but he i knew where he lived and i went to his house and i asked for it back and he just denied damn he stole it and then i somehow wronged him in his brain again and then like my Jinzo showed up like ripped at like my doorstep. That's kind of tough.

Yeah, that's actually bad. That was Bane. It was one piece like a fingernail. Yeah, it was five candy. That was yeah. That was maybe one of the lesser lowest experiences. That sucks. Yeah, I feel like well there is that one time. Well, I think after season candy that was yeah that was maybe one of the lesser lowest experiences that sucks yeah i feel like well there was that one time well i think after season i think season two of yugio the show did this thing where it's like in the show like canonically if you lose a duel battle city yeah

you have to like give them your best card yeah and idiots on like the playground would like be like if they do that in the show you got to give me your fucking blue eyes i'd be like fuck you no no i'm not doing that i'm fucking fuck you i'm going home like this costs like 40 bucks for this whole thing and i'm but people succeeded with that because i think if you were a big enough person it was like bully rules where it's like give me your lunch money but it's like give me your blue eyes give me your blue eyes white dragon this is why i'm a socialist you know what i mean sorry i meant to say this is why i pretend to be a socialist for twitch right oh yeah and then i had the audacity you know have a house you pretend to be a leftist online just for the clout because that's where you make the most money is being a leftist

what people love yeah is not being uh a right-wing grifter and and make a video about how the 50 million dollar 50 million dollars that you were offered dude if my life collapses right wage slavery i will become one of their little uh token guys well i'll become one of those like daily wire token people oh yeah like it's not that bad yeah she's trying so it. So it's fine. I think slavery's epic. Yeah. It's like, I don't necessarily want to get political, but it is wild to me

how many of these motherfuckers are Canadian. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know it sucks. There's like,

I don't know why. I feel like, cause we have it. So because I'm, I don't know. Are you going to, you're going to, you're going to say it.

You're going to come clean. You're on the bottom. I'm a very right wing Canadian. We're all right. We're just going to say it. You're going to come clean. I'm a very right-wing Canadian. We're all right-wing. I thought you were just going to say you were Canadian, but he came out with the right-wing. That's implied. Yeah. Everyone in Canada is pretty much right-wing.

It's just how it goes. I hate having this health. Yeah, we're so... Take it back. Smaller government, please. I'm going to dangle for excise government. Yeah, because Jordan Peterson's Canadian to right, Jordan Peterson, yeah, and Crowder, yeah, he's or I would say he's

Canadian. Is that I got that like Morty or Rick? What's a little kid? Yeah, I mean, I'm yeah to get the role. Yeah, hey, Rick, like oh my god like rick could we please not the cultural marxists are you'll find that performative woke ism is tearing us apart that's my audition for rick and pd the rick and morty started jordan peterson that'd be awesome i'd watch that um it would be legitimate he's the funniest person online he cracks up every single day he's the yeah dude cries at like the drop of a hat he started wearing embarrassing drip he's like getting suits made he's like these um

this is my jordan peterson by the way um it's like kermit kind of yeah that's a lot he is that is true um he had like uh nine suits made by these like designers or something and they're all like the cringiest like suits he had one with it's like a twitter suit and it has like tweets like in the like suit lining and stuff it's got like a a tech and boss color palette yeah he's just it all just says and also his interpretation of a mean tweet most of them are just like shut up yeah you're wrong in the way that you think i disagree this is this is not the marketplace of ideas i'm being wrong is it like stitched in there like tweets stitched or just like pieces of paper just like staples it's like a print line it's like a print yeah it's like pretty honestly like I want someone to make nine suits for me.

So if you're out there, I'm open. Like a BarkBox? Yeah, like a BarkBox. I do want a suit and a dog treat if it comes in a little box. Yeah, with YouTube comments on the inside? Yeah, one for every day of the week.

If you read the YouTube comments. All every day of the week. If you read the YouTube comments. All nine of them. All nine days of the week. Can I, all right, I know, you know, it might be a little too soon, but can I give a little bit of a call out to the Gregorian calendar real quick? Sure, okay.

Fuck yeah, dude, finally. Isn't it fucked up? Talk your shit. It's insane. Isn't it fucked up how October's the 10th month and then you're like, oct, that should be eight, right? And then you find out that Julius Caesar just like added more months or like fucked him up i can't remember if he added more months or fucked up the months but he fucked it up yeah but he maybe

fucked it up by adding more months yeah it could be either or so i guess it's the julian i don't know but it makes me sad is it it July connected as in Julia's? Yeah. And then like December deck 10 Deca. Look, we don't usually talk about tea here. Like we're not like drama channel, but we are seeing good performance on that. Yeah.

Her canceling Julius Caesar, who was stabbed to death. Brutus did what? We should put Jordan Peterson in the thumbnail but he's really little. With Shrek. We got the T on the calendar. We got the T.

This is from This feels like it's been on your mind for a long time. Some may say hundreds of years. The months January and February were added to the calendar and the original fifth and sixth months were renamed July and August in honor of Julius Caesar and his successor, Augustus.

Stupid. That's unsustainable. How many months? You're just going to keep adding them? These months were both given 31 days to reflect their importance. This is some Elon Musk shit. Yeah. 31 days. reflect their importance. This is some Elon Musk shit. Yeah. 31 days.

That extra day. Yeah. Boys. I had no idea that was a thing. That's fucked up. Yeah. Ruined the whole year. And yet we're a bad podcast that you hate.

And we're coming up with good stuff like this. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of are saying good stuff like this? Yeah. We kind of are saying what's on everybody's minds and kind of afraid to say it. I'm afraid to take a jab at Julius. Was that a vaccine joke? Or was that like a killing Julius Caesar joke?

Oh, you did kill Julius Caesar is what you're implying. With the jab. The original victim. He started doing that thing that all those like midwestern white

women are doing are they hitting the stanky leg thanks Pfizer thanks Julie well I had the vaccine and it gave me the

stanky leg it made me hit the gritty permanently is it that that shit is so fucking funny I hit the orange

justice my roommate is either making or just finished making a video about all that stuff Permanently. That shit is so fucking funny. I hit the orange justice. My roommate is either making or just finished making a video about all that stuff. The shaky legs after the vaccine. It's so incredible. My friend Ethan, he was working on a video specifically looking at a couple of high profile shakers, movers and shakers, Shakira style. And they are hysterically funny there is a interview on you know some pseudo center right bullshit uh channel public access whatever where they're interviewing

youtube.com service that's the one yeah sure it's gold i believe it is uh there is a yeah a little cabal of the three highest profile shaky influencers and at one point one of them realizes they're supposed to be shaking and they start gradually doing it and then like a tremor in the in the like uh san andreas split the others start like catching up and then they start escalating like an arms race and then one of them's just like fucking like a doppler effect past the microphone they're just like shaking so much and then the of them's just like fucking like a doppler effect past the microphone they're just like shaking so much and then the others have to catch up because to be the best shaker most charitably it's like kind of like a twerk contest yeah it's hot don't get me wrong yeah

you know um i think one of the and i do think a lot of times it is bots so i don't want to feed them too much but one of the wackest things in the world is when someone dies or gets injured or something like that and then that is pretty whack yeah that's honestly on god that's where i stand no but someone in the replies will be like i bet they got the jab yeah and i hate oh my god could you be any more insightful i guess they're not even saying it's correlated yeah I bet they like stranger things yeah we should yeah I feel like there is no person who's like pro

vaccine who calls it the jab you know I know it's like a dog whistle yeah so we should we should like reclaim it we should reclaim it yeah the word jab the snipe yeah stab stab I feel like the jab does sound like the name of a podcast with three, you know, young conservative boys

and conservative anti-vaxxers. We talk media. We talk movies. We're shaking all the damn time. Yeah, the audio is bad. Yeah, the microphones have stabilizers on them. They're like cropped in a ton because that's how the warp stabilizer has to like- And for some reason, the cameraman is like handheld too so it's like yeah

why did we have this guy we're just gonna try but the jab coming to a podcast area yeah this is that i do diamond shape transition yeah spinning around it's ben shapiro like hillary's emails it's like one of those songs. Hunter Biden. Why is it always about their computer? Yeah, I don't know why. Stop taking my emails. That is really interesting. I do think that you could probably start a

conservative rumor if you just name a political figure and then mention their iPad. Yeah, literally. You can use your Zune. It's like, why aren't we talking about nancy pelosi's tamagotchi yeah aoc's 3ds i saw when she was street passing dude yo the shit she sent me on picto chat yeah dude it was it was it like a is it like osama bin laden

who had like Crossing on it? It was, yeah. He was a gamer, man. He was a hardcore gamer. He was gaming out. He had porn pinups in his hidden home. Oh, he did? Yeah.

Like waifus and stuff. Which is a very funny thing for Steel Team 6 to reveal. You know what I mean? You are not going to be like, they're so catty. He also had Charlie put my finger on his hard drive. He had Charlie put my finger? He did, yeah. But the thing is-

Like an MP4 file of Charlie put my finger? The original one. He filmed it? Yeah. The original Charlie put my finger was on live leak. And Charlie went a little too hard. Yeah. The British version of World Star

is a child lightly biting the finger of another child. And you're like, out. Out, Charlie. Charlie, you. All right. That one literally cannot get on the podcast. Oh, Charlie, you fucking intro.

Great joke. I like it when we bleep them instead of taking them out entirely. Because it's just a funny joke. Yeah, it's we bleep them instead of taking them out entirely. Yeah, it's funny. Like, for example, on one of our previous episodes, I talked about how Jordan got suspended from Twitter and it's because he always tweets shit like,

is it okay to... The closer we get to the green card process, the more... You were not a permanent resident here. Stop poking the bear. I asked. What? i'm just asking questions i'm not gonna do i don't have time i'm curious i'm don't i'm not good at it so yo okay what if this is has like any of those you know those like animators the youtube like, like all they do, like the cartoons on YouTube, like story time stuff.

Yeah. If one of them has to make an apology, do they have to like, it takes four months to animate their apology. Yeah. They're like, they have to draw themselves with like, yeah.

In their living room. Yeah. Like a dog. Yeah. They have like five poses. i mean extreme laughs of judgment yeah a big sigh but that belly gets big with like the one thing of sweat like anime style yeah it starts with like yeah the anime style like vein so something happened i really didn't want to make this video i can't believe i ran somebody over in my car um i'll ask i'll ask the odd one is out yeah yeah what have you done yeah james if you had to do an apology

what would it be for yeah well there was the time I did that thing. Oh, the event. Yeah. Did you see the magazine cover with Rihanna and A$AP Rocky? Oh, yeah. And their new child? I did. So funny. Which is a beautiful family.

You know, we stay in Rihanna in this household. I thought the Super Bowl performance was great. Okay, everybody relax. I didn't see it, but I think it's great too she i she was pregnant and floating like 100 feet in the air and everybody was like i've seen better it was a banger discourse someone was like look i think she might be pregnant well she looks like a hot air balloon like she is eight months pregnant it's like so so obviously pregnant people like i've discovered the tea.

Good for you. Also, it's a weird thing to feel like you're hunting someone's pregnancy down. Yeah. I feel like it wasn't a secret. I don't think she's trying to. She's had sex. Right. Yeah. Yucky.

No halftime show. I think it was because like, well, one, I don't know if this is our place to discuss this, but she had a kid already. And then people were like, like oh did she have another kid so soon that's impossible blah blah like the science doesn't check out yeah they're like they have like red yarn and calendars like taped up um how big is our baby how long does that take yeah how many and how do babies made how is that before i was there there. Did babies, did it take seven months for babies to get delivered before those two months were added in the year?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, it would perfectly be 10 months. You know what I mean? Is my math insane? No. Yeah. It would be exactly a year for a baby.

Huh? We're going to go. It does take nine months to make a baby. Come on, man. But there's an extra month that is like, it's the delivery month. That's the month of the baby. That's what it was called.

Delivery month. It was called month of the baby. Where's my baby? I rewatched The Grinch recently. Because I've become single. And we always, let's indulge. Do you mean like a few months ago? December? I mean, I'm on my phone right now. Okay. angle and we always so like do you mean like a few months ago december like a i mean i'm

on my phone right now i'm like okay uh you've opened it yours is playing it your laptop has a grinch also it's the grinch porn uh there is straight up just i was because i couldn't remember what the rationale was for just a guy being evil or like a bad guy right and the stork just sucks that's his reason like his stork that comes down into whoville yeah it's just like creepy and the basket is bad and the baby is ugly and it's not like he got struck by lightning or something it's just right it's a story had a bad such a nasty baby that he became evil damn what is it wait the original are you guys talking about dude like the not the christmas not the jim carrey one the original grinch one that's not the original one get out of here dude okay well they made a book about it but jim carrey the jim carrey one

he's like already a little green baby he's canadian did you know that that too yeah i'm obviously trying to avoid um let me just say i saw the movie and uh more like jim carried oh dude he did he was good in it yeah yeah dude the production i would say so what do we have here um we have dominant woman submissive man so these people are like they analyze body language and stuff and try to like read the tea leaves of how people like pose in photos because it's like secret messages everywhere right i feel like if you have to assume that there's a secret message encoded in all media there's probably not i think there's like uh just when you have a instinct to a certain worldview or you want to, you want your like assumptions to be comforting.

You just make up pretend funny science. Also, it's very funny to me that it looks like British is one of the pieces that they've, except Rocky soft face British. Okay. Okay. That's the biggest flaw.

The normal cover is just a family and it says Rihanna reborn, the superstar on Parenthood, A$AP Rocky, and the mother of all comebacks. They're analyzing this. They're saying she has a hard face.

She has her shoulder back. She has her chest out okay yeah strong dominant masculine woman okay she is the leader um you know who always says it's just a pose dude they're doing a photo shoot on the beach yeah it's just blocking it's like interesting yeah yeah you make your poses dynamic and interesting it's a cover called rihanna reborn and she's in the background holding a baby while asap in the back in the water that was oh my god uh and so he is the follower yeah for this cover yeah so asap has a soft face which is true he's a beautiful nice compliment yeah the happy face i love that they did they did it to the baby they did submissive baby yeah submissive baby

beta baby beta baby so rihanna's hand and asap's hand happened to kind of be covering asap rocky's junk region. Right. And so they say he's cock shamed. Cock shame. Because his dick is not hanging out on the cover of a book. There is literally no other location that it would be normal to hold hands while walking at that distance.

Yeah. But then if they did that, it would still be like beta. It would be like reaching for female or something. They'd still find a way to make it. Aspiring, but too feminine. Yeah, reaching for female.

Yeah. Too soy. Also, yeah, slouching. He's holding a baby. He's focusing on so many things. Supporting a head. They're like, stand up straight and be masculine with your baby. He's whispering the left agenda to the ear of the baby he's doing like uh one of those bodybuilder poses that like mr

bouncing the baby on his head also how is shoulders back is not mask coded to me shoulders back the fact that she's like shoulders back like a guy. You know how they do? And the girls always are slumping forward like Quasimodo. Why did they draw lines? I don't understand. They're all the same diagonal line

and then some of them are dotted. I've seen the line stuff before where it's like if there's a picture of like a man and a woman couple and the man is like towards the woman, it's like, this is the weak person in the relationship. This person is like, that is the strong one. So that's what they're doing with the lines.

But I feel like they're just, they've gotten lost somewhere because they're just typing things that they hate. Listen, that line, no correlation to what she's doing. Right. At all. Doesn't follow her body

shape she's standing very straight yeah you can literally draw this line also dude you know what i mean she looks like a stussy s yeah so much more than what they have um so i mean but luckily for us we don't have to imagine what they mean because they've explained themselves okay good does rihanna look happy in this photo when a woman is forced to be in charge she is forced to take on the dominant masculine role she is forced to suppress her nurturing some submissive feminine essence she is forced to go against her nature this is why rihanna is not smiling not like there was a a person behind the camera being like, do this face. Yeah, make directions. Give us hard face.

Face isn't hard enough. Can you make a baby's face harder? Oh, it's a soft head. Think about how you've lost all of your feminine nurturing energy. Suppress it. Suppress your submissive feminine essence. Tell me you've never seen Rihanna, by the way. Tell me you've never seen Rihanna without telling me way. Tell me you've never seen Rihanna without telling me because it's like, this is the face she does.

This is the closest to every image for her brand or every image for a concert or a makeup. Is that, it's good. Oh, there we go. Oh, they've done it again. Hard face. Dude, pussy face. Pussy facing the world

just a woman not standing in profile facing the world shame again that's so fun that's just standing behind this person is very bad at reading emotions they say this is a sad face which it is not that's a hard face his is a hard yeah this is a hard face. Yeah, you can't win. Yeah, and then again, does she look happy in this photo? Yeah, actually.

I would say she does. It's so funny that if you're just behind someone, your cock is getting shamed. If you're just in line at the grocery store, you're like, dude. The person at the back is being so... The cashier can't even see my balls. Of course, he's facing the world

excuse me ma'am can you 180 degrees please turn around yeah about face to the world why did they draw a triangle around her area it's like illuminati stuff like they but they introduce the triangle they They're not like finding a triangle naturally there. Yeah, well, yeah, well that's what pussies look like. That's what Cox is like

a football play. All right, so we're not smiling and then we're going to start by not touching him and standing straight dude. Also, I have to be touching it backwards.

Heavy makeup is funny because like she has like a multi-million dollar like makeup billion dollar billion like yeah, has a very successful makeup brand so it makes sense for me wearing heavy makeup you think what is why short skirt even referenced yeah like if that's the thing that's crazy it's like wouldn't as a like a dude isn't that like what you want to see right what was it and like what's the these guys are like i don't want to probably foaming at the mouth it's like don't wear that implicitly it's still always just like this and she's robbing

men of their gender role etc right short skirt part of that that's robbing you of traditional masculine general yeah it's all bullshit but like that's not it's like when you see those memes posted where it's just like um a trans woman in a men's bathroom at the urinal or something. And they're like, this is what they want. Like, that's what you want. That's what you want. That's the thing you want. That's the thing you're yelling about.

It's like, look, she's wearing a skirt and I don't like that. Yeah. Scary. I was facing the world. I do believe that they've explained the lines here. The green lines are about love. The green lines are about love. The green lines are about a woman connecting with her soft feminine essence.

They love that phrase. And attracting a man who is connected to his strong masculine essence. How can a woman admire a submissive man? She can't. She admires a strong man who can protect her. I love the thought bubbles they added. Like that proves they're right. The muscle emoji at the end of the thing.

You can also find probably the same photo of like Rihanna and A$AP Rocky. Indeed. Oh, for sure. Does he think they're doing this all the time? He's just like tracking alongside. Never standing up straight. Like some little goblin always just

like leaning towards the red. Like a worm tongue influencing him as they walk around. You should stand up straight. So you can't look like a model and not have a hard face. It's a striking face. God, his teeth are so good good his teeth are like the reverse of steve harvey's mustache he is

and he's always like that's kind of his brand is that he's very beautiful and attractive yeah but also like a cool hard rapper hard face um right oh my gosh yeah that's like the same yeah what would you say this is what i say like asap's like you guys yeah yeah it's a yeah sure if you write it down seems like you really want me to say it's like you'd be willing to message that to me yeah my dad maybe yeah message your dad that you remind me of asap i think he'd like all right someone else has to read this one some people are saying rihanna and rocky are fine some people were also saying will and jada are fine will and jada were not fine just because someone has money and fame doesn't mean they can't be suffering emotional problems or worse don't be so flippant and callous or worse, don't be so flippant and callous. Or worse, dead.

Okay, so she's not smiling, pussy face. Cock shame, never cross your legs for, oh, sorry. No, dude. Oh, the laptop. Ugly sneakers. They're just flaming them now. They're so catty. Ugly sneakers.

Out of season. Yeah. Bad hairline. Yeah. Bad hairline. Bad hairline. Yeah. Poorly hemmed jeans. Not leaning. Legs open. Also like what isn't the world

all around us? So where can your pussy go? Your pussy facing hell. It sounds like you can't identify 360 pussy because i know one when i see one and it's facing the world sorry i'm like crossing my legs the whole fucking episode yeah dude you better shame pussy facing the world leaning towards him sorry we have the dude you can make the same lines in uh the last supper

towards mask jesus yeah you could but you could pick any photo and do that to anything it's just so arbitrary it's just a boring image if there's like no contrast just two people standing straight on the red carpet also when someone is taking a photo of someone and you're like next to them, you like lean in. You know what I mean? Oh, can I get a photo of you guys? Oh, for sure.

And then boom, got your ass. Your ass is leaning. Time to do the podcast. Hey, can I get a photo of you guys? Yeah, for sure. I'm going to start doing that whenever I get like pictures with fans and stuff. I'm going to start writing the lines on the pictures.

Cock to the world. Yeah, I got to make sure my cock is to the world. Excuse me. Can I make sure? Sorry, can you send me that? I got to write some lines. Yeah. Zoom out a little bit.

I want to make sure. Yeah. Make sure my cock is facing the world, please. The world. Everybody. Yeah, you can do that to like any picture really. the cock is facing the world. The world everybody. Yeah, you could do it like any picture really in like if there's like a picture like a. It feels like a video of like a crazy like someone getting hit by like a place by a car or something freeze it while he's in the

air. Pussy ass soy by his Chad bus. Beta fucking woe jack hard car hard bus soft bones dick facing the concrete every passenger soy sitting down no standing passengers bus driver cock facing the world this will be a this is the new slippy one like next year we'll do an episode and somebody be like box cock guys yeah i don't i don't remember what you're talking about we're

talking about do you get a lot of messages referencing like old episodes of your podcast yeah i'm just like there's no way yeah there's a lot of times where people would like if i'm if they're like quote a joke at me that i made even in like a main channel video that i did like a year ago and i'm like i don't know what i don't know what you're talking yeah but that sounds funny yeah my crush is actually yeah it's like an ai it's like when you have an ai generate like a tweet or something that like sounds like somebody you're like that's certainly gonna come from my that's that's checks out actually. Yeah, that's on brain. I just don't miss. All right.

I'm pretty coded, turns out. In the metaverse or else? I think I probably asked you this last time, but how do you do a podcast by yourself? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I've... I've had multiple conversations with people where they're like, I don't know how he does that.

The co-host just doesn't turn up. Yeah, people just come out of the woodwork and they go, and it's cock is facing the world while he just that's the main thing i try to get cock out first yeah not a lot of speaking it's mostly like posing yeah led pointed down like a spotlight yeah actually i don't know i feel like people always say that to me but i feel like i've been doing it for so long that it's like it seems like easier now so it just seems like everyone would just have an easy time to do it it seems slightly in the realm of streaming a little bit that's what i was gonna

yeah i was gonna say that is there anyone in the room when you're recording no i used to i used to have someone like virtually produce and like over the um over like zoom they would like be there to like if i read something they would like tell me or whatever. But I just kind of stopped doing that because I like, I don't, I feel like the, especially when I'm filming a video too, it's like, I don't want,

obviously like Jenna can hear me when I'm filming a video because it's like in our house. But like, I don't want people to like be listening to me while I'm doing the part, which is weird, but I'm sure you understand. Because you're a performer also.

So that's why I think it's interesting because I like to, like usually i'll have someone virtually producing even during my videos oh because really yeah because it's nice to like kind of keep myself on task and kind of get in the zone with it i yeah i mean i can't record videos off stream not that i particularly enjoy like streaming's fine. I just need accountability to not repeat jokes or get obsessed with like a line reading or something like that.

Wow. Yeah. So it's just like different strokes. Do you, I know for like your second channel, you don't script anything. And for your videos, you don't script anything. But for the second channel. It's kind of a cowardly move, I feel.

And that helps. I think that for the second channel, especially, for the main channel, it that helps. I think that for the second channel, especially for the main channel, it'd be easier for me to film alone because I have a lot more preparation, but for the second channel, it's nice to have, it's like all improv brain. And so my producer,

I used to be on an improv team with, and I can just like, she can keep context and I can, you know, make sure I kind of am making sense. You know what I mean? Right. and then also i usually have an outline if i need one sometimes it's just like you're looking at a weird guy and you're like okay do we yeah do we have it but feminine pose yeah yeah it's nice to have someone who can like draw green lines on the screen just so you know to make sure i'm never you know slouching make sure my my business is going straight to the world yeah yeah i feel like

i mean that probably would be better for me because i feel like i do get off track sometimes with podcasts and i'm like at some time i'll finish recording i'm like i don't know what i fucking said i don't know what i talked about right that feels kind of meditative though yeah i do podcast listeners that is like the ideal so much of the time yeah i've never seen or received feedback that somebody wants a podcast episode to be shorter true yeah that's true yeah i want to be longer and i can go to sleep to it every day right it's just it's an interesting we're making content for such different audiences like with art like with uh with every type of content we make like be it a podcast or like a video like a traditional video the audience experience is so different

like some people are comfort watchers and some people want to like literally see the like get the information you know it's like if you did something you're talking about something i need i want to know about this because i've seen it right or i just want to be entertained or like curtis helps me fall asleep at night and so this is my comfort stuff to like listen to you know yeah and and i do think that for podcasts they definitely fall a lot into that like comfort thing because it's like oh this person is my parasocial bud buddy you know is it nice is it nice to indulge in like another portion of your brain that's like because i i assume that you writing and working on your videos though not the same because the eventual performance is very different is not super dissimilar to prepping or practicing a set

right where you are right optimizing and crafting the exact delivery in the exact way so getting to record something like the podcast where it's just open fog brain yeah it's stretching completely different muscle maybe leg day yeah it's like like that yeah yeah i think it's i it definitely is like that's i think that's why i've been doing the podcast for so long because it's like it's a part it does like scratch a part of my brain where it's like it's nice to just fucking not worry about like sticking to the script or like sticking to like the punch lines and the things that i already have or know what i'm gonna say so yeah it's nice to just fucking not worry about like sticking to the script or like sticking to like the punch lines and the things that i already have or know what i'm gonna say so yeah it's definitely like very it's like therapeutic i guess no no no i i do think it's like a therapy work

yeah yeah what uh how much prep are you doing for podcast episodes uh well i have a meeting like every week with uh with shun he uh shout out to shun shout out shun and then we uh yeah we'll talk about like what things that i'm going to talk about that week um but you see it's funny because like i could easily imagine shun like virtually being there for like and he was yeah he was and then shun was doing that like yeah okay yeah and but then i uh i think we just i just stopped um i think there were some times where he was like it he wasn't available and i just like and then it just sort of morphed into never happening again right right but yeah i feel like i kind of prefer it that way too because it's like yeah because i feel like

there's like a certain like pressure that is like somehow like in my head when there is someone listening to be like oh i know some i just trying to make i just want to have them laugh it's like if i don't know they're laughing then it's like i don't even know if i'm being funny so it's better to just not have it at all because i'm like i mean it is true it's like it's a more internal experience yeah yeah because i do think like for uh for like my second channel and stuff i i like having someone there because i know when they're laughing i'm like okay cool things are right this this bit this line is funny i can keep like playing with this we're cooking yeah yeah we're cooking or like you know if you're doing like crowd work or something and like you take a risk with a joke and it like doesn't hit then

you probably pivot off of that right then you know yeah i'm like i want to get in i want to like hopefully say some funny stuff and make my point or even not make my point because sometimes there's not a point to be made it's just like a silly time well yeah i mean similarly the the other side of the when you're improvising there's only so much like sincerity you can bury in character right whereas like if i go on stream there's a kayfabe there's a character in front of it because i have to perform my cadence is like a lot peppier right uh i like making videos just fine i like having made videos i'm always in the mood to do the podcast because i don't need to find a version of myself that's ready to perform in the same way right uh but and it's like it's

nice to record i didn't listen back to the previous episode but i did look through some of the notes that jacob sent to us about like some of the topics we touched on and it's interesting it's it's nice to like go back and be like that's similar to me now and probably not exactly the same the tone is probably a little different and i mean we're in person which is significant a little better yeah but uh i don're in person, which is significant. A little better, yeah. I don't know. I just think scripting a video is cowardly. It's a foolish thing to do. Too easy, I think.

It is such a different... I think for me, one of the frustrations I have is that a lot of people don't know the difference between my main channel and my second channel. And that's great from people watch both or whatever and they don't question it. And I guess it's a compliment in a way

to the improv. Which way around are they misinterpreting it? Are they reading both channels as improv or both channels as improv? Because of how frequently I post on the second channel and how infrequently I post on the main channel, there are people who don't know I have a main channel and then there are other people who don't know

what channel they're watching. A lot of times I'll get comments that are like, oh, I thought this was this. And then other people are like, does anybody know the difference between these two channels? But I think that's okay because the difference is more important to me. Because it is a different...

I think of my main channel as projects where you have to get down and dirty. Whereas my second channel I can pop in and take a survey, have a few laughs and then get out of there. Or just things that are risks. It's a proving ground for stuff as well we're talking a little bit about how like ultimately it's not going to affect the performance really

of a video people's engagement if you drop it only at 720 and only at 25 frames or something that is for like creative and professional satisfaction or a feeling of growth and indulgence you know which is completely fine it is exciting but i think the same applies like in the least cynical way kind of the quality of the content like people are very open to pretty much anything yeah because it's the it's the baseline i mean again i think it's why your show works the podcast implying your videos don't yeah my bad that's okay they don't uh yeah it's just people trying to spend time with the version you're suffering yeah yeah i feel like the well to similar what jarvis is saying it's like my

podcast to me is the second channel pretty much where i can just go and just like let's just fart around and not worry about like not fart your videos are farting around but no no no just like actually like i don't i totally get what you mean yeah just like audience that would love you the stakes aren't the same the stakes aren't the same. Exactly. And it can be really rewarding to goof around with low stakes because it's more fun sometimes. And then it can still be successful. And I can be like, wow, look at that.

I'm surprised myself. Do you think you'd ever, were you posting that, have you ever posted an improv type video, like a second channel type video on your main channel? Or were you always pretty? Yeah, I have. I think especially when,

the reason I stopped posting frequently on my main channel is because I had an identity crisis of what I wanted to do. And I was also dealing with depression, anxiety, and also chronic fatigue, it turns out, which is something I'm still navigating now, where I was just tired all the time. And it's helping now. I figured out some stuff, but I'm still like working through it.

And I was like just making videos for brand deals. I could be like, oh fuck, I got a brand deal. So I got to crank something out. And so I would do something that felt to me like a gold video, but I would just put it on the main channel. And it never felt right because I felt like I was redefining what I wanted the main channel to be. And so then I was like, okay, for what I'm able to give right now with my body and brain, I'm going to focus on the second channel and get that to a point where it can get brand deals and make money and stuff like that so that it takes the stress off of the main channel a bit. And now I'm at a place where I'm like, okay, you know, we're getting the podcast back up and running.

And so that is taking some of my time, but this year I definitely want to crack like, you know, what is the main channel again? So I think now we've, we've relaxed into the like sad boys therapy, therapy couch, uh, part of the show. Um, one thing about the podcast I wanted to mention though, what, what number podcast are you on right now i don't know 200 something because you were on uh 111 when we last recorded fuck yeah so so that's you know wow when did it get good little odometer when did it get good yeah

uh not for like another couple of years it's a long it's a slow burn about six months ago yeah and you said it's a challenge to be entertaining for an extended period of time. I said that? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that all the time. When does the burnout start?

When in the up time does your body start shutting down? 40 minutes? 50? Probably like, yeah, probably like 40. And I try to do like 45.

So I feel like the last five or ten minutes i'm like i think that that's like our podcast like we can go for an hour and a half because we both have about 45 minutes of right tank yeah of course yeah it's definitely different with when i'm doing shows with like yeah yeah like in person with other people you're not mining your own brain yeah exactly yeah idea yeah something that i've found really uh you don't do like traditional therapy do you no okay no yeah we've been me yeah i want to try i'm going to give it a go this year i will seriously think my pitch is i think everyone should give it a shot i don't want to be super like everyone needs to be in therapy but i am someone who when i started

therapy i was like i don't have any big things I need to work on. I just kind of want to like, I think I was on a self-help kick and I was like, maybe this will help me in some way. And I think it has, like I've been in therapy now five years and there's never been any huge like mental health emergencies or anything. But one of the biggest things that I love about it is there's someone keeping context on like the shit that you are talking about and working through yeah and an authority that can we just say jenna's off screen sometimes i'm like looking off camera um jenna is here is that okay you know i can check you in to make sure what we say is fine yeah um uh and it's it's kind of cool to have somebody go, oh, hey, I remember the last time, or I even have notes of the last time you were dealing with a challenge like this,

and you have navigated it very differently. And I want to sort of acknowledge the fact that you've grown. And I was like, oh, shit. Because it's like you're looking in the mirror every day, you don't notice a change. Right. Well, you're offloading some of the RAM in the back of your head that has to be tracking the feeling you were having. And if you are exhausted, depressed, anything like that, you're not going to track the day by day.

You're like, I don't know how long it has been since I started this. Especially if medication's involved. That's why I love my psychiatrist so much is I don't have to learn anything. Just text him and I'm like, is this suppository? No, no, swallow this.

Please don't do that. Well, I have bad news. I don't know, I feel like it worked. Pictures of everything. Is this a suppository? Is this laptop a suppository? Like a computer? No.

Just a truck. You could try. So one thing, so in the interest of that, like longitudinal aspect of things, I wanted to check in on something from, that we talked about in the interest of that uh like longitudinal aspect of things i wanted to check in on something from that we talked about in the last episode so you had a tweet two and a half years ago okay about um like it was it was i would say that you were it was a rare curtis tweet because you were mostly shit posting all the time yeah and and every time whenever i see like a potential like vulnerable post i take note of that mentally and this was

like one of those times two and a half years ago i don't have the tweet at hand but this was you tweeted about like lacking motivation to create and hitting creative walls oh did i really yeah that's crazy because that's something i would like never talk about now i feel like i never post about i mean i think also it's okay to not tweet about these things because like we have people in our real lives to talk to about them and it's you know it's it never like shouting out into the void especially of like your adoring fans who like yeah can't really ever provide you with the help like any like real thing you need right giving you platitudes for a version of yourself

that's not 100 yourself right yeah right yeah exactly yeah uh i don't care you're not famous shut up so i guess my question is that do you resonate with that you've managed to like continue creating consistently i mean that tour was fucked up like it was sincerely ridiculously long but i also yeah yeah i'm amazed dean is around yeah i know but i also just dissolve i also know you did take a little bit of a break while you were on tour because i can imagine how difficult it is to like kind of keep up both of those things together i feel like i still have those feelings that are like i'm not doing enough or i feel like i haven't been like you know creatively i haven't

been like doing anything like new or something i have those like every so often they're definitely like less frequent now but i feel like before it was like i feel like i needed to always like show or tell people like how i was like feeling with my content if like it wasn't happening for a while yeah but now i used to back in the day because it's crazy how long we've been doing this now or at least how long we've been aware of each other because like i remember years and years ago you used to tweet like hey guys podcast is going to be like 45 minutes late today. I'm really sorry. And I'm like, dude, you're good.

This is self-imposed. Right. Yeah. I always upload on a Thursday and it's like, most people aren't sure if it is Thursday. Yeah. So I feel like I've definitely moved away from, like I haven't, I didn't upload a podcast this week

and I just didn't tell anybody. Cause I'm like, I don't know. It's not coming out. That's growth. I already released it. You didn't find it. That's on i don't know he's not look at that it's not coming out that's gross i already released it you didn't find it that's on you actually yeah yeah you're insane idiot i feel like i've gone into a nice like rhythm now especially with like the frequency of uploads i feel like i've slowed down quite a bit on like the main channel and it's like good because i can really like focus on my time on like one idea that i'm excited about yeah

um instead of being like i gotta fucking get this out and i need to have like this many videos a month and it's like it's not that i don't care anymore it's just like i feel like i care more about for my own like mental health i guess and like just like how i feel about what i'm doing creatively it's like i need to slow down because like there's like i still i still spend a lot of time like editing and like working on videos and stuff but before i feel like when it first started like ramping up the first like year or two of youtube it was like fucking go go go go and especially like on tour on tour i was like really stressed because i had to do a show like fucking every day it seemed like

and i still had like brand deals that were like contractually i had to like have a video out so the videos i uploaded while i was on tour in like random hotel rooms i feel like you could tell i was like fucking so upset that i had to be filming that day because i was like it was like i had like three days off right and i was like the first day it's like you just want to fucking sleep and do nothing yeah the second day is like the one day where i'm like i have energy maybe i go like sightseeing or something but it's like nah sorry guys i have to like film a script and film a video in my fucking hotel room um i'm gonna throw a crazy concept out to you have you ever considering have you ever considered canceling those brand deals? The reason I say this,

and this is as a friend, there's always more money to make. There's always more content to do. And sometimes it is a thing where you're like, oh, should I be prioritizing myself? I don't want to burn the candle at both ends. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, totally.

Do you like the brands or you know you think they're shitty you can say we're not releasing this no they're all great i'll just say from my personal experience and this is a conversation i've had with like sort of creators who are earlier on in their journey who are feeling the pressure to like yeah i i need to like strike while the iron's hot i need to make sure i um sure I'm able to really lean into this momentum. They don't realize that like everything is negotiable. And a lot of times they'll have management or, you know, people in their corner who are making,

who have a financial stake in them doing the stuff. And I mean, they're also taking advantage of the fact that a lot of younger people and creators don't value their own time which is why anytime you know we've worked with an editor or something under 25 like what's your hourly rate it's like whatever right just whatever you would like to do ten dollars i don't care because you just assume that you are low status by virtue of having done not 10,000 hours. Right.

And this is less, you know, you have all these resources and time and you've been in the game now for some time. But really just for younger creators, you know, it's a marathon, not a sprint. You know what I mean? For sure, yeah. marathon not a sprint you know for sure yeah and uh and if any if any management or i usually blame management for this problem i don't know like your specific situation but and i'm not gonna put you on blast for that because i but but where they live um they you know with bad managers and a lot of times people are managing too many people and blah, blah, blah. They are thinking of the people on their roster as like units of work and dollar signs

and not like human beings. And so for younger creators, like prioritizing yourself instead of putting yourself first is like really important. Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's obviously that side of it, but I feel like if I have like a thing that I've commit to, I feel like I put a lot of pressure on just myself. That's fair.

And I feel like also I have this like vine curse where like in my head, I'm like, this is all going to go away tomorrow. I think YouTube is going to stop. Yeah. And there'll be no way for me to keep it. It'll be destroyed by one of its competitors. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, Vimeo is going to throw it right in the toilet. Yeah. So there's- We're all streaming the Super Bowl over at Kick. Yeah, Vimeo's going to... We're all going to kick. We're all going to kick. Yeah. We're all streaming the Super Bowl over at kick. Yeah, so I feel like there's that in my head where it's like, obviously, I know I'm not going to be doing YouTube. I don't want to be doing YouTube for the rest of my fucking life. So it's like, however long the iron is hot, you know? It's like, I feel like I might as well just, you know...

Strike it. Yeah, exactly. No, I mean, that makes perfect sense. Just kick the shit out of it. Just go insane on it. Yeah. But obviously, I feel like i might as well just you know strike it yeah exactly no i mean that makes the shit out of it just go insane on it yeah um but obviously i feel like i have been getting better um with like trying to like fucking chill with how i think i have i mean even from an outsider's perspective yeah and i think that's why i was saying like oh you know you could tell to your point about the um holding yourself. I think that's a really great quality of yours. And I think it's apparent that it's not just external pressures. But the growth is like, yeah, you don't...

It's like, hey, I can't put out the podcast. It's not like you need to put out your animated apology about why there's not a podcast this week. Yeah. I feel like... It's also a podcast this week. Yeah. I feel like... I was also just getting older too. And also I don't really... And just getting a better relationship

with work and YouTube. Experiencing a little bit of ego death is healthy. Understanding what is reasonable and needed versus what is kind of an indulgence in your own anxiety. Because it is a spiral and the moment you acknowledge an irrational thought as a rational one then all of the

irrational thoughts become rational it's like i didn't upload on thursday so actually i think i am dying from this mole like that yeah true i will also say to like people with you know i have less of a history on youtube but i did i was an editor for a long time and then we obviously met in tech for a decent chunk of years. That's where I know you. Oh, I'm the one that people call Jarvis Baxman. Yeah. Before I joined Patreon,

Jamie was like, you've got to come work here. There's a British Jarvis. Hell yeah, dude. That's so cute. You can't remember which one's which either. Yeah. You can't remember which one's British.

Yeah, I never could tell. Which one made you guys? Which one, the French British? But yeah, I'll just say to anybody that's like getting into whatever their professional sphere is, especially if they are self-employed, there's no romance to burning yourself out. There's way too many people that see rise and grind just as something that's inherently valuable. If you go to the gym and you are really undisciplined and you just hurt every single time,

that's not an indication of skill or success. You're not getting better. You're burning yourself out for the aesthetics of success. You read Hunter S. Thompson's routine where he just woke up in a vat of cocaine yeah dove into whiskey shot himself in the head and then started writing for 12 hours it's like wow that's just so he wasn't a good writer because he was an alcoholic yeah yeah exactly yeah it's like it is possible and this is coming from like my personal experiences with

burnout it's like it is possible that like you can make yourself unable to do any of the important things in your life. Be it like the, you know, if you're creating content or just like doing work, maintaining relationships, like all of that stuff can like really suffer if you go too hard on yourself and it,

what's it all for? What's it all for? Yeah. It's exactly like, yeah. What's, what's the point? You know, if you die, you know, it's like it what's it all for what's it all for yeah it's exactly like yeah what's what's the point you know if you die you know it's like what does it matter like you know if you were forbes 30 under 30 which i was i'm not sure if they put me on it but i can't feel like they would yeah you've got what you've got a couple more years so figure it out buddy yeah

i'm trying to get to the 30 under 30 pounds list. Oh my God. You're going to die. With like tiny Shrek. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean like GBP? Like money?

You want less than 30 pounds? Yeah. Fuck, dude. Don't do those brand deals. If they did a 30 under 30, the poorest list. Oh no. That'd be crazy. No, I want 30.

The content creators earning the least amount of money. That'd be awesome. What is, you said. It'd be everybody on the YouTube shorts program. I mean, no. That'd be crazy. The content creator's earning the least amount of money. That'd be awesome. What is... You said... It'd be everybody on the YouTube Shorts program. I mean, seriously. They're not monetizing them enough. We should kill them.

Huh? No, you said that. You said... I think you just said that. You can't say something. That was Jacob, actually. You said that you don't want to do YouTube forever. Is stand-up something that you definitely want on the docket?

What are you going to be doing forever? What stand-up something that you definitely want on the docket? What are you doing forever? What's your fucking deal? Jesus. We were just having so much fun. Not on this, actually. No, I just mean in a sense, like, I know for... Okay. Sorry.

I think it's just in a sense that, like, when I say YouTube forever, like, if I'm, I'm making content and performing and being in the entertainment or industry, I feel like that's not going to last forever. I don't think I'm going to be fucking 60 and being like, new podcast. I could see it.

If it's fun. Here's the thing. I think that there are ways to... If you want to I think that there are ways to, like if you want to do it, there are ways to make it work that also allow you to like live life with balance. Are you editing your podcast? You have an editor for it.

I have an editor for my podcast. Okay, cool. Yeah, because I do think about that too, because there's like obviously older people on YouTube that are great and stuff, great and stuff. But I just think I have like the nightmare of like, like being like a Jason Nash or some shit. That's fair.

And being like 50 and being like my best friend's a tween. Yeah. But that was a choice that he made as an adult, which says enough about his, like he was 45 years old and this 22 year old boy is going to be my best friend. Dis dislocating his knee dabbing so hard his wrists fly off his arms i think um there are a lot of creators who just like are less in the zeitgeist um because there's like a there's like ageism in the industry and because

they don't seek out extra attention, but they're like doing a labor of love. And I think that's really special. Like anyone who's happy, I think I'm like jealous of, like, we're all on the journey.

It's like, we want to like live a happy, like full life. Yeah. I think I'm only saying that I don't want to do it forever is because like i can't picture it yeah so but like who knows obviously i'm not gonna be like fucking you know rule it out yeah i think creatively speaking none of us would want to be doing exactly what we are doing yeah i think that's what yeah because it's entirely possible that like because then it's

like groundhog day yeah exactly and you're not gonna have an archive of work that is memorable to you you're gonna have this blur you're gonna have made 200 albums and you're not going to have an archive of work that is memorable to you you're going to have this blur you're going to have made 200 albums and you can't remember which drug you were on when x or y was produced and you it kind of becomes trite you're not evolving as a person because you're only making the same kind of thing right i just i you know personally i i haven't i can't picture myself not doing the podcast when it's viable because it's just the sitting down. It's like a fun archive of change YouTube already. I mean,

I want to do the type of content I've made is, was like very circumstantial. I had, you know, two hours a day where I was not like in transit or right in the hospital or like all kinds of drama for like a couple of years. And then this was the thing I go live. I stream and we get two or three videos out of it and it was like a nice inspiring thing if i

had a bad day i'd make sure to stream because it cheers me up that kind of stuff but i only stream for the accountability i don't it's not where money comes from it's not a priority i take big breaks from it i ask people not to subscribe they do not obey the rules uh but i that's that's a privilege because of the type of thing i can make but i don't only want to do this for the long term i do like the idea of some higher concept of course effort work type stuff yeah my housemate ethan does a lot of high concept shit that like you know he's burning the midnight oil to do it, but the speed that he goes from, I just had a really bizarre idea that requires a lot of prep to a week and a half later having done it and released it.

Yeah, that's crazy. He's also 22 years old. So he's like, he doesn't have to eat. He just burns thoughts. The thing that's really interesting to me about life is that first and foremost i'm in a fortunate enough position that i can afford to just follow my curiosity you know what i mean yeah oh yeah a bad video performance is not jeopardizing right and i just think that like

um i want to continue doing that but one thing that sticks out to me is that in 2017 you know i was making five-year plans that involved me like trying to become a like like a vp at a tech company you know like where do you see yourself and i was just taking the what path am i on currently how do i you know you know follow that like like sort of add five years to that natural progression. And then where am I at? But when I was like, I was like in some like professional development groups and stuff. So they were like having us do these exercises. I would write it down and I'd be like, I guess this makes sense. Like this is what they want me to say, but I don't know if I really feel this like in my soul. And you know when youtube became a thing i was like okay you know this is

this is the thing i can i'm going to follow this now and see where this takes me but i i want to like make sure that i am leaving the space for my next big life's curiosity to like take me and follow it but do you have a thing right now there's like i want to get into acting traditional or something like that would you ever do romance novels yeah uh on the head actually a little too explicit yeah so he's gonna write smut kissing so yeah it's called pussy facing the world that does sound like a romance um i mean yeah i feel like i youtube is still like so much fun to me so i i still have a lot of fun doing like making the videos i want to make and if i get like commentary is great if i have a different video idea that a different style it's always fun to do as well yeah i don't think there's a gig with a better community exactly my favorite people yeah it's i'm very blessed like we said now like

even a like if a bad performing video is it's not gonna very privileged obviously very lucky um but yeah obviously like being a a creator especially like in comedy there's so many different ways and outlets to to do it so i feel like stand-ups obviously it's great. It's so much fun. My thing now is definitely want to write new jokes once this stand-up hour is done

and out there for people. Because I haven't written new stuff in a while because I've been so focused on this hour. Is Australia the last major chunk you're going to do with the same hour?

Yeah. And then, yeah, we're going to put it out somewhere. Because they want to hurt it because they don't have the internet.

Yeah, they don't have like anything. Crikey. Yeah. What's the thing he's holding? What is he even doing? He's making him giant voice wise.

But yeah, obviously like I would love to like act more. That'd be great. Yeah. I'd love to like act more that'd be great yeah i'd love to write like a movie that'd be fucking sick you know it's just like the other thing is youtube takes up so much time but it's also like i don't want to stop doing it because i know it's so much fun and rewarding that's why um for myself i i started like hiring editors for stuff and hiring people to like, make sure that I can still be a part, like be a very important part of the content process,

but making it a collaboration to the point where, um, I have time to think. It's stimulating. Like, it is very fun for us to message Austin and be like, new thumbnail needed for this thing. And he sends us a fun thumbnail. And it's stimulating like it is very fun for us to message austin to be like new thumbnail leader for this thing i love this is a fun thumbnail and it's like wow this is something we could have done but i do love the feeling of someone doing something and i go i would never

have wanted to do that even if i have the skill to do it it's like i would not feel like it and like the fact that you did that that's crazy, true. Why are you working so hard on shit? I'm in bed right now. For me, I used to get this question a lot. And it's awesome that it doesn't happen anymore. But people would always go, do you ever think you'd go back to tech? Yeah. And to make them happy, because usually there are people in tech, I'd be like, you know,

I don't know. Never say never. But in my head, I was like, fuck no. Oh,'t know. Never say never. But in my head I was like, fuck no. Never say never, but I never, I would not ever in any point in my life while I'm alive. And so I think if I get to do,

I've always like loved entertainment and you know, things in this space. And if I can do that in some capacity for the rest of my like working career, I think that would be like a huge blessing, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. How about you, Jordan? I mean, rest of my like working career i think that would be like a huge blessing you know yeah for sure yeah how about you jordan i mean all my favorite things especially with the tech question i mean all my favorite things about tech and tech culture are more present in this industry and come with uh less sinister elements what i mean fewer elon musks

for sure yeah exactly and inevitably we talked on this, I feel like, on a recent episode, there's just no, you can make an office as like twee and kitschy and cutesy as you want, and you can put fun copy on your careers about page and all that stuff. But it's unavoidable that you're in a very weird power dynamic with your management and executive team. There's always this weird, even if you are in management, it's just odd. And it does feel a little inhuman. And since leaving that, I feel like I still mostly get to play around

with administrative work and organization and management and things like that. That's all the things I used to enjoy. I mean, I didn't have a discipline like engineering. So that's more something that's like very specific application, but you've also implemented that in content. A little bit, it's like i i think the fun what's fun for me is having a little bit more insight when we're talking about like video game emulators and like ai i think that's more fun for me than like actually doing it a style or like doing a gag

that's like a technical thing yeah it's But I don't, I realized that like, as much as it was enjoyable for me, it was like a, I don't want to say means to an end because I enjoyed it, but there was a creative element to it. And I think a lot of the stuff I do now scratches that same itch. Yeah.

I think every impulsive project I want to do is completely predicated on what you mentioned about like five years ago, no indication of where I would be. And such a clear goal, such an arrogantly young, like, well, I'll be wearing this outfit and driving this exact kind of car. And I just think that is all gone now because I know that it would have no impact on what I end up doing. I know where I want to be, and I know I most likely would still want to be here. I don't see that changing. Like at my house?

On this couch. And please don't reorganize the couch. This exact angle. This is good fun and shway. You're going to stay there, right? Yeah, my five-year goal is probably just parking. I'm very tired. Sorry, Jen. I'm right here for five years. No, you'll be there yeah i guess you'll be there i do like

the idea of jenna like having a conversation with like a friend back home and being like so whatever happened with curtis do you still see him and it's like he's in the chair yeah he's on a face right now yeah he's a javas his job doesn't live there anymore either no his lease has long since run they tried to move the new people but he just started yelling He's on a FaceTime right now. He's at Jarvis. Jarvis doesn't live there anymore either. No. His lease has long since run out. They tried to move in new people, but he just started yelling, squatters, right? He's too heavy.

They can't get him out of the chair. Yeah. There's actually like a huge forest fire all of LA right now. Curtis is still there. He became the this is fine dog. Some say you can still. It is fine. This is fine, fine dog uh no i think the only project i would

honestly is i want to there's like very niche i mean i'll just say it in case somebody else wants to do it because i won't do it for years and years i've always wanted to make some solution to how incredibly deliberately obtuse uh visa application processes are for non-native english speakers like it is it is appalling to me how confusing it can be like when our friend nikhil had to like fly to france yeah find somebody who like did his same job so he could prove to the u.s government that like he was that much someone they should hire arbitrary the resources if you are lucky, you have legal representation, right?

I've never done it without somebody else carrying the path, like a therapist for immigration, right? I offload my brain because I don't know and it's not worth learning it when there's a better authority on it. I'll learn the acronym so I understand the email, but then I'll step back, right? There is, it is just,

this is just a very unfunny rant. But I just, I find it... You know how Intuit has made a lot of investment in lobbying to keep tax code confusing because otherwise TurboTax would not be as valuable. Oh, wait. In Canada, your taxes are not... Do they suck like ours?

I mean, in what way? Like filing taxes. Well, I feel like I've been i have like my parents probably i just have someone i pay to do my taxes now so it's like it's not it's easy for me now but like for the average person like like in a lot of countries like in australia the government i mean just like in every country the government knows how much money you make yeah and then england i i had to file as self-employed for that portion of time when i was back in the uk over covid and it still is just it's a default program it's like here's how much to withhold then contact hmrc report how

much you withheld we'll tell you if it's enough or not enough yeah but here it's just yeah in america there's companies there's there's a company that runs turbo tax and the company that runs uh h&r block yeah and they basically have like lobbied the government to like not make the tax filing process easier so like to keep to keep the services that you pay inexpensive right so you can't just do it yourself you can't just do it yourself yeah that for immigration is just even more like obscene. The way that that's designed, especially outside of a specialist worker's visa. If it's just a vanilla, especially family members, like first generation immigrants, even if you have multiple citizenship for your kids or something like that, it's just deliberately really confusing. And I can only imagine how much harder it is when it's translated without professionals helping you understand the nuances yeah i just

feel like that is a basic free consultation is just not a thing just doesn't exist that's crazy that is the only project i really have in the back of my head that and being like so fucking rich yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah every all of us have that right yeah there's like so much yeah it was just like a crazy amount of well just i just want to become disillusioned with like how the world is i want to be great to come back and give me the bag you know what i mean yeah fifteen thousand dollar ad placement one a day yeah please bill gates he was like on ellen or something and it was like guess these like these uh these grocery places and he couldn't do it because he's so rich oh yeah yeah it was so bad i want to be like that yeah i'm

gonna be like that riffraff clip my dream is to blow up like i don't know nobody yeah um it's the second episode in a row i put up maybe it's gonna become a staple anything else on your mind bud um monkey pox where that what happened with that what did happen with that should we bring it back yeah we could probably maybe it's in australia hey hey when's the tour stop uh april sometime mid-april april early april you should find out april 12th the first show's on april 12th in perth um crorikey. That's fun to say. Perth. Perth. Perth. They'll love it if you do that on stage.

You've got to be like, hey, guys. Hey, guys. G'day. It's me, Curtis. Get fucked. I'm here to tell some jokes. Yeah, you got a good Australian too. Yeah.

Are you guys the one with Flight of the Conchords or is that the other guys? The other guys. Can I say Kiwi? It seems bad, but I checked and it's fine. I Googled it. I Googled it. I googled it.

Yeah, I'm going to Australia. It's really exciting. That is cool. Pretty much all the shows are sold out except for Christchurch. So if you live in Christchurch,

New Zealand, come to the show. Hell yeah. What is, is your first time going to Australia at all? Yeah, first time ever.

Yeah, we've never been. Have you ever been? No. No, I've never been. You've never been? No. Sounds like you've been. But it sounds like we got to buy tickets

to the Christchurch show. Party at the Christchurch show. That was a praying Christchurch. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Christchurch. This is a little redundant. I guess it's like what kind of church. Yeah. Christchurch. Yeah. Rest in pieces, dude. T-posing on the cross.

With his cock facing the world so much media depicting in in statues and paintings of his cock facing the world the green line i think we've come full triangle um and our cogs cult facing the world. The green lines like the cross. We've come full triangle and our cogs are facing the world. And we end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. And then you say,

and we're sorry. And we're sorry. Boom! Boom. Go too rich for me.