Sad Boyz - Can Under-Consumption Go Too Far?

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. That was like really nice. Yeah. We had a, I don't know how much we kept in. There's a, I mean we could say it's like a little CO2 alarm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My smoke detector needs battery, but the ceiling I can't reach. I don't have a ladder. So it's beeping a little bit. I need to replace. We needed, for the sake of the edit, we needed to get one nice and clean. And I closed my eyes. And I felt like I got like 15 minutes of full processing. I got to think about when we were singing Imagine from Memory earlier.

Yeah, we were singing Imagine. We were singing One More Time by Daft Punk. I was laughing to myself while I went to the bathroom about the idea of if the song was Imagine I had a truck That truck would be so sick Do you know about the truck in Pokemon Red, Blue, Yellow?

No. There's a truck that's right off of when you get off the SSN there's a little pool of water or there's a body of water and you can surf off of it you get off the ssan there's a little like pool of water or there's a there's a body of water and you can surf off of it on the right side and there's a little land with a truck on it and you couldn't you wouldn't normally have surf the surf ability at that point in the game and so there's like lots of urban legends about what happens when you like go to that truck right so

what you would do is you would like you you could like progress the game without going on the ssn or you could uh get the appropriate gym badge out of order and then have someone trade you uh trade you a pokemon with surf already on it and then okay you could surf off the coast go approach the uh go approach the truck and you could see that there's nothing there oh and uh they later i think in fire red and leaf green when they did the gen 1 remakes and i think maybe even in the let's go games it's one of the it's either one of them or both they made a you got like a rare candy or something there like a poke ball you should get the truck yeah you should be able to catch the truck you should be able to

pokemon needs vehicles i think it's time who needs a truck based pokemon we got trubbish before truck truckish well i guess we did get v we did get the first vehicle based pokemon in uh uh karaito and marida i want i want one that's just a truck and the eyes you know it's kind of like mater from yeah so you're just describing a completely different concept of like car based yeah but like okay so there's like a race car too right okay and so he's now it's just gonna be as a race car he's he's annoying okay that's a big part of it yeah what's his name um lightning mcqueen no i think i'd do lightning mcqueen instead but your idea was so first idea i like your idea i love my idea and it's called like car truck oh it's called cars cars two yeah why two t-o-o because like

we have cars they're also cars they drive bigger cars the cars drive bigger yeah is there a guy in there with those guys is there like a little guy inside a little guy inside of the car yeah no i think they drive themselves they're autonomous like teslas oh that's the future that we're all in right right okay like in the future you'll have a really beat up pickup truck but it'll be able to drive itself. Oh, yeah, because we always thought it was in some kind of like. And it'll be voiced by Larry the Cable Guy. Oh, the dream. Yeah.

Yeah, the most difficult ways to use. You have to like wake it up. Like, what are you doing? Oh, sorry. Left, if you want. You know what I just realized? Larry the Cable Guy is one of the last names that we have that's like Igor the kind-hearted.

Larry the Cable Guy. Larry, the cable guy. Larry from Cablemore. You have my cable of justice. My cable is yours. Cable sounds just... My butt crack is long and visible. Witness me. Witness me cleaning your pipes.

Witness my accidental entendre. Thou might be a redneck. that's a jeff jeff of fox jeff of the fox worthies larry do uh it's like her first name is uh he does uh here's your son no that's uh bill ingvall jesus and then the drunk one was ron white that and that that is the uh that is the infinity stones of the blue-collar comedy tour. Is Larry the cable guy? Why do I know this? You love him.

Anastasia was laughing. You asked my question. Like, why does Jarvis know all of this? A third eye is opening. It's because I used to watch Comedy Central just straight up. Like, just like whatever was on Comedy Central. And sometimes it would be like Comedy Central specials, and other times it would be Blue Collar Comedy Tour. Gods of the Rust Belt.

And then it would literally be Bill Ingvall doing like a bunch of, it felt like it was a joke book where it was like, here's your son was always the punchline. And then Ron White, I couldn't tell you a single Ron White joke. He just like gets, he like shows up and he's just like yeah oh and being drunk well yes yeah and then and then larry the cable guy was like international appeal yeah translatable and then jeff foxworthy was like the um he's like the the self aware he's oddly suave he's like the suave self-aware i'm a little above it but i'm still a redneck i'm just like you but i keep my truck clean he's like the um i've observed the rednecks

for many years i come from them i speak for them oh they have elected me as their leader I taught the ape sign language right here's the way he is the James Franco to the planet of rednecks okay I nearly killed my dad. It was coming in hot, by the way. First, second sentence out of the podcast, I nearly killed my dad. I nearly killed my dad with a Jeff Foxworthy joke. Because when I was like. He's a logic. I think I was like seven or eight. We went to the bookstore and for some reason I bought a book of Jeff Foxworthy jokes. That's what you did.

Nice. And my dad's driving and I'm in the backseat. And I sayworthy joke. That's what you did. Nice. And my dad's driving and I'm in the backseat and I say this joke and I'll remember this joke for the rest of my life. It's if you think Dom Perignon is a mafia boss, you might just be a redneck. The redneck mafia. Oh, like Dom Perignon. Yeah. And I'm seven. I don't know what Dom, like Dom Perignon. Yeah. And I'm seven.

I don't know what Dom Perignon is. Yeah, yeah. And my dad is laughing so hard that he almost doesn't stop for a red light because he's driving. Anastasia, I'm laughing so much from this. There's a famous, we lost the library of alexandria but fortunately what yeah i didn't even know he was sick yeah so fortunately we do have uh brainyquote.com to to keep track of the the words of our forefathers and so i have here a list of

jeff foxworthy quotes okay if you own a home on uh sorry i'm working on it if you own a home with wheels on it and several cars without you might just be a redneck that was pretty good oh he uh embellishes it sometimes with you might just okay i think no he did that i'm gonna start reading this one i have no idea where it's going it's a big paragraph and sometimes when i see those my brain turns off sure so i was like if i read it aloud i'm'm going to pay attention. It's like trying to watch a wave. If you ever start feeling like you have the goofiest, craziest, most dysfunctional family in the world, all you have to do is go to a state fair.

Because five minutes at the fair, you'll be going, you know, we're all right. We're dang near royalty there's a long ass walk to that one i know it wasn't even a punchline he's giving you a lot of like uh front porting a lot of narrative it's almost like a sequel you have to know the family or something i like him he's probably got good opinions i've never i don't even know if this is a good jeff foxworthy impression it's really just like a... It's like no one knows Jeff Foxworthy's voice enough. Having not heard his voice in decades, I think you're doing a good job.

Is he alive? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Because if he wasn't, it's a very bad voice because his normal voice would be like... I used to say that whenever people heard my southern accent, they always wanted to deduct 100 IQq points that one's not even a

this is the end of it yeah but it's a quote so maybe it wasn't even intended to be a joke it was at home by itself um poetry uh yeah you might be a redneck if you spent more on your pickup truck than your education i feel like that type of joke needs a little more sauce i think a lot of his jokes need more sauce look who am i i've look i've never been jealous uh not even when my dad finished the fifth grade a year before i did oh wait i thought he was young is your dad no i think the joke is that his dad's stupid and he was held back you and now if you got that you might be a redneck i almost killed my dad with one of my jokes i told one of larry the cable guys bits fucked him up whatever larry the cable guy jokes it's all

right i'm on are you pulling them up oh no i gotta pull up ron white jokes yeah we're all covered oh top 25 by bill engvall oh well here we go Hold on. We found the show. Finally. Jeff Foxworthy is alive. He's 65 years old. Been married to his wife, Pamela Gregg, since 1985. I shot me a nice deer and I hung it up in the den in my house. My neighbor comes over and says, do you shoot that thing? I said, nope. He ran through the wall and he got stuck.

Here's your sign. I thought it was supposed to be. And you think this thing, if you're like this, yeah, here's your sign. Yeah, wait a second. Here's your sign. Ran through a wall and got stuck. I feel like Bill Ingvall had like a. He comes and he goes, hey, dad, I'm going to play you a song on the piano.

I said, hey, great. So I go into where the piano is and he goes i'm gonna play you a song from harry potter i said oh cool the movie he goes nope the book here's your sign oh wait what i don't get here's your sign is the is the is that just what an interesting story. And now, wabba-labba-dub-dub. This is his catchphrase. Yeah, what's that thing that Bart says? Like, they all go like, say the line, Bart. He goes like, I don't think I'd do that today.

I'm Googling, here's your sign, Bill Ingvall. I don't get it. Help me. But I will say that when I watched a full Bill Ingvall special at some point when I was a child, and I did get it then. So I think it's something he set up. You're dying laughing. He set it up, but then it became such a,

like it was like he sets it up at the beginning, and then like there are so many different callbacks to it. I see. But now I don't. Is it like here's your sign that you're stupid? I think maybe. I just want to give a shout out to all the Bing and Fog. The Bing Ingvall, I keep saying.

All of his quotes in here. There's a lot of geography involved. It's a lot of, here's where I was. And here's where I was standing. It was indoor. Exterior. I'm at the state farm. I almost wonder if it's like

has something to do with sarcasm because both, it's all like people being sarcastic. He's being sarcastic and then his kid or no, his, wait. Is it prefaced with at some point in the special but also just kind of as like a linguistic thing?

It is sarcastic. Well, this one's from a bot. It means you've just said or done something that marks you as stupid. Yeah. Okay. So that's become

such a colloquialism now. He doesn't have to do that. Oh, there's deers on the wall. Did you shoot it? And it's like, yeah, dumbass,

I shot it. But like, I don't believe half the people's deers are, I feel like there's so much stolen valor with that shit. Yeah. You can just buy a deer.

Did you shoot that? And he goes like, no, no that's not that's the only path that could have happened um you forge that sword so if someone says here's your sign to you they're saying you're stupid or you've done something incredibly stupid so the problem i have with the harry potter joke is that i i didn't know that his son wasn't being sarcastic. Yeah. You know what I mean? Saying from the movie. So he's just... Yeah, is he giving his son the sign to be like, no, wait, his son is giving him the...

So I think he's giving his son the sign. I thought his son was giving him the sign. Well, now his son's Uno reversed it. I thought only Bill Engvall could give the sign. I thought my interpretation of it was like people, maybe he said something and everyone around him is like giving him the sign that he's stupid or maybe i was thinking like in the vein of the hobbit or lord of the rings books they have lyrics in them that are in universe songs and maybe harry potter has one and the kids doing the lyrics like animal farm has a song in it

beasts of england beasts of ireland beasts of every land and climb a nice book walking to my joyful tidings of the something winter time something time it's a metaphor i don't know it's a metaphor guys it's an allegory you know every song every song that one doesn't even that one's just words that one's literally i there's not an animal for a movie to my knowledge There is for some reason I was like maybe Orson Welles made one. It sounds like something even worse and well Well, he made of course he made he made he made the best movie of all time transformers one Yes, citizen transformer. I'm out in public and using the phone. Hold, Citizen Bane. Oh. Rosebud. Rosebud. He was my sled when I was a boy.

You can see me through a back mirror. Citizen Bane sounds like an early Twitter handle. That's a college humor sketch. Yeah, it's a college humor sketch. It's a Pete Holmes bit. Yeah. It's a Twitter handle from both 2009 and 2024. Yeah, that's a Reddit. Reddit user handle as well.

I'm out in the public and using my phone. I'm in the phone booth. I got my phone in my hands and a man taps on the glass and says, you using the phone? Nope. I'm Superman. And I'm just looking for my costume. Okay, that one makes sense. I don't think Superman keeps his costume in the phone booth.

So it's like people asking dumb questions. Yeah. Okay, so but he asked the dumb question. Yeah, I guess. So then his, okay, hold on. I'm going to play this back. My co-host doesn't get to be involved. Here's his sign.

Play a song from Harry Potter. I said, oh, cool, the movie? He goes, nope, the book. His son. Here's your sign. Yeah, his son signed him. Turning it on him. Okay.

I would freak the fuck out. I would shove my son. I would start screaming. No. Question for Jordan. When you were growing up, Jordan, did you think all Americans talk like that? Or like that accent? Primary influences, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Oh. That's what we talked about like it's it's kind of the equivalent i think maybe cultural exchange wise where everyone in the uk is a little orphan or the company pickpocket or the queen you know it's like that dynamic and everyone here forgets about you don't get any yorkshire you don't get any north you know there is no like i had no conception of a midwest accent i did not even if i'd like seen fargo or something i just saw that as like a funny american accent and something i did not anticipate till i moved here is that a lot of people here just like consider themselves to just have an

american accent and not a reason like people from all over the country will be like, yeah, I never really got a California accent. I just have like a normal accent. There is no, like in the UK. Yeah. That's weird. There's like the, there's like, um, there's like Southern, there's Midwest, there's California. And I feel like Californian and like Southern are like the ones that are easy to like impersonate. Yeah. East coast. I didn't consider a famous people. East coast was just mafia. Yeah. I guess like the Jersey Italian American type. Oh,

that Jersey, Boston, Jersey, Boston. Oh, those definitely got put together in my brain. Oh, they get put together in my brain.

I feel like a dense gray city accent. Are we dense? I'm very thick on interior I'm strong even in the Midwest there's like Midwest Midwest then there's like Minnesota Minnesota right I'm still

trying to figure out where my voice is from Minnesota just sound like Canada because I was listening back to old podcasts of myself because i was sending it to somebody and i was like man i have always sounded like this how do you say man like a nerd man you say man oh there's like the pen test as well where it's like a pin or a pen uh oh what do you you say? Pen? Well, because like P-I-N versus P-E-N

some accents pronounce it exactly the same. Like in New Zealand they would say P-I-N for a pen. I've got a pin. I've got a pin. It keeps falling over. I've got a pin.

Did you just say I've got a pin? I've got a penis. I've got a pin. I've got a peen? I've got a peen. I've got a penis. I've got a peen. You've got my tiny penis. I've got a peen. I've got a peen. I think of New Zealand as just little Australia. Sometimes I just realized I was defaulting to the Cockney pickpocket idea of like the little orphan kid.

I was like, I'm just going to, we don't have Brisbane, but we've got our own stuff. It's, yeah, it's like everywhere is equally nuanced. Not interested. No, we're not interested in. I remember the first time, I remember the first time that I did my Australian accent for someone. And they told me that I sounded like I was from Toowoomba. And I was like, I don't know where that is. But now it's like where I say I'm from.

It's where I say I was born and raised. The Australians, Boy Boy and I did a thing. They started Twitch streaming yesterday, to my knowledge. According to sources. According to sources and Twitter and stuff. I went to their account and they're like, I couldn't even sub because the account's brand new. And I was just like, hey, the boys are streaming

or something like that. And they were locked in on playing the GeoGuessr game that's for time, for the picture and then it's the time and place. And then the chat saw me and people were talking to me on the chat and then alex leads over he goes why is everybody saying jarvis and he's like anyway i think 1962 that goes back um they're locked in dude first australian person on the internet exciting for

them it's big we got computers now this is. You know something that I still don't understand? I think Boy Boy is the name of them as a group. Oh, really? And what Boy Boy ends up being called. But I don't know if it is, because everybody says I did a thing in Boy Boy, but also their group channel is called Boy Boy. Like their Twitch is also Boy Boy official. I thought Alexa had done solo videos on boyboy

I don't know the situation I've never asked maybe they need to call in and defend yourselves unfortunately right now for them it's night time it's night out

they're doing sleepo on their beddos. Got to wake up, have a smoko. They got to wake up, have a smoko, have a little brekko. Bingo board, Australian accent, ding. Have a little, yeah. That was on there, right? Right.

There's also the Australian accent that just keeps going up. I've got something to do. It keeps going up. It's like the belly girl. What's the most regional you can sound of where you're from? What's like the default? Good question. Is there a Gainesville versus Florida or is it just Florida? the most regional you can sound from of where you're from what's like the default good question is there a Gainesville versus Florida or is it no Gainesville Gainesville is like kind of uh

it's kind of neutral um but there I because I wasn't really around people who like the my immediate like no one had southern accents where I was okay it was just more like uh when I was. Okay. It was just more like when I was in Georgia, you know, when I was in, when I was in the Krabs' hometown, you know, like, that was, that was the most southern.

You see, I mean, they're a good example of, you hear them hop on the phone with a family member. Oh, yeah. It's right up.

Yeah. I enjoy that. Everything turns into a draw. I got something to tell you about nothing than sometimes something else. Everything turns into a draw. Don't go to, honey, you ain't even gonna. I got something to tell you about nothing. Then sometimes something else. Everything turns into a drawl.

Just don't go to. Honey, you ain't even going to know what I got to tell you about something. Yeah, I think. Here's your sign. The thing is, the accents that I can do from my past are just like black auntie voices. And I feel like I'm committing a hate crime when I do them. I'll do it. I'll take a swing.

Nope. Pick a different race. I'll try it. I'll take a swing. Nope. Pick a different race. I'll try it out. Pick the funniest one. Okay. I understood. Woke has ruined the show. Yeah.

I was saying that. I was thinking that. Okay. We've talked about Stanley cups before. You remember those? Mm-hmm. So that's like very like consumerist. Like look at all this little stuff you could buy for your cup of water.

Look at this 80 pound backpack. It's like a transformer. It's modular. It's a robot in disguise. You can buy individually wrapped mints. Yeah, it's like playing Armored Corps, operating your mech, putting rail guns on it for your dog to wear.

Yeah, what's that? I would buy that Stanley Cup if it turned into a- Oh, a Gundam set. You know that game? It's a famous old game called Steel Battalion. Yeah, with like a huge interface. You needed a huge interface. I think it was on Xbox, original Xbox or something.

It was harder than flying a helicopter. It was, yeah. It was like a flight simulator but for a mech and you had like a whole like console that you needed. Oh my god. Steel Battalion. It's like learning Klingon where like it only is functional in one very specific. Wow.

That's cool. And people fucked heavy with this. Dude what if we started going by the Steel Battalion? That's a cool name. The podcast is cooler than Satellite. Better than Boy Boy, I'll tell you that much. Fuck, we can't just, every episode we're going to find a name

that's cooler than Sad Boys. Boy Boy Boy. Boy Boy Girl Boy. No, that's two that are cooler than Sad Boys. Boy Boy Girl Boy. Boy Boy Girl Boy. Boy, Baby Girl.

Isn't there a pop group called Boys and Girls, or Boys Like Girls? Hey. Oh, the fellas, fellas dude what a look you know i love fallout boy i love uh old painting of the disco and stuff but i do there is this like kind of funny pop punk thing where like the the the soundscape the music is so hardcore sounding there's like three guitars doing a breakdown anyway i am here to say i love you in a crazy way i didn't manage to get my license on the first try i've got another test for my broken heart i think I'm gonna fail but I have to start

to drive my truck and it makes me cry and it makes me fart it is a great era and it is also like and then it's great we'll never get away it's like it's like they have like a big like uh I'm making up all of this sorry but there's like these and then oh and then like a pre-chorus harmonics and a pre like doing the exact melody of the chorus and then everyone comes back in and you on re listens you realize it it is literally a song about like i went to prom but my knees hurt too much to stay for very i think what i think what i i just realized is that we're perfectly describing

uh 30 seconds to mars down to a t but that's like still what they say. Yeah. And they're like 50. I went to a prom, the music was on. It turns out a chaperone isn't allowed to dance with the kids. I found out like, I found out some disturbing stuff about them, allegedly, perhaps. I don't know.

I don't want to repeat it, but there's some videos about some stuff they're up to and it's not great. Anyway, Anastasia was moving us towards under consumption core which is on our list i was i was definitely steering i was a little shepherd the little cattle dog you were at your heels and then you ran off yeah you're you're a shepherd and i'm an annoying white tourist who thinks i could do better under consumption core well the same pair of sneakers every day for two years. Oh, okay. That's cool.

I mean, yeah, get your money's worth. Always using all my products. Okay. I mean, that's also cool. Nothing wrong with that. Not buying bottles and other packaging just to repackage a product. Learning that not everything needs to be aesthetic. Sure.

Not buying bottles and other. Wait, sorry. I'm trying to understand that one. So that one is like. Buying refills steel hand soap dispenser and you buy bottles to then pour into that. Oh, I see. So what I do, and maybe this is, maybe this is,

maybe I'm an under consumer. I'm not. I have too many magic cards to be an under-consumer. The shampoos that I buy, I have my bottles, but then I just buy these refill pouches. What are they buying to do with it? Because they don't say they're buying refills. They're just keeping it in the original package.

Oh, which still feels like it's consuming. Well, no, yeah, it's less consuming to buy. Okay know this is such a specific okay i get it now because they're responding specifically to tiktok trends like uh where every everyone does like here's my aesthetic bathroom and it's like everything is in its own like it's like a re it's like when someone has uh reskinned their phone and all the icons are like different or they, you know what I mean? It's like that. I would, I would like stop being friends with someone.

It's like legitimately one of the, when shortcuts has to open every time you open an app. Oh, that's so funny. Well now, cause well, Android has done this pretty seamlessly for many years as a, so I don't want to act like,

but iPhone did just start doing theming for stuff. But yes, this reminds me of the Stanley Cup video because they had an individually packaged version of everything. And they were taking them out and putting them into a different container. Now, okay. It seems efficient. The thing is, if you get a big bottle of something

and you can't fit it in your fridge, because my fridge doesn't have a lot of height clearance. So the fact that they had poured it into small little bottles for individual servings, I was like, oh, that makes sense. So my example is Jacob had mentioned that he used to have a roommate that would buy these very aesthetically pleasing spice containers. Yeah. So you have all of these spice containers that look cute on your shelf, but then you're buying a plastic spice container at the store rather than buying like a baggie of spice. You know?

So like you're taking a plastic spice container, putting it in another container, and then throwing it away. Yeah. Instead of buying like a then throwing it away. Yeah. Instead of buying like a bulk bag of spice. Right. I think buying a bulk bag of spice and then putting it into containers. I mean, we're the bulk bastards.

We're the bulk bastards. I will never run out of paper towels. I will never run out of my giant black pepper bag that I refilled a good one with. But that being said, like I'm not a person who is like, what is it called? Like waste zero or. Oh, yeah. No, I'm doing it for my convenience. I'm doing it for convenience because it's like you've been using paper towels.

It's like, why don't you use a hand towel that you individually wash every single time? Well, there's always something. Yeah. Okay. If I do that, then what do I deliberately put into my neighbor's pipes to punish them for not showing me their katana sword? Right. You've clogged their pipes. Woke up early this morning.

Didn't see her. No katana performance across the- I woke up early to do a Bloomboro draft. No katana? No katana. Though I haven't- Maybe one of those little rabbits had one, though. Probably.

There is a short sword. Look, haven't watched any more of these yet. I'm operating only on that assumption and the cynicism i have about tiktok people in general and human beings i think there's a a twinge of this that is rooted in it's just a different aesthetic this is this aesthetic is buying stuff not to be perfect. It does just feel like another aesthetic. It's hobo chic. It's, you know, like, it's reaction. It's like you don't, it's very expensive to dress as a punk, but you're dressing as a punk. Initially, punk style is a reaction to wearing a suit.

It's like. Or like wearing work wear. Yeah. It's like I'll wear Carhartt, but I have the hands of a prince. You know what I mean? Yeah. I felt targeted but i but i but i would never like um i'm not doing so to pretend you know what i mean i just think it looks nice

just as i'm not buying like not to say that my path is not getting more ethical than if it is just for aesthetics but like it's interesting that the emphasis of the video like this is not on like you'll save a bunch of money the only alternative to what they're saying here seems to be well buy the pre-packaged hand soap that's it yeah i guess we have to still get the i i don't know like what the full argument is here so we're gonna have to give every everybody their their due time but yeah i i definitely see how this could be just like promoting a different aesthetic, but I think also part of it,

like we should watch like more of these videos, but like also part of it is sort of like the messaging that you don't need to subscribe to a aesthetic. Like, right. It's a reaction to like the, like the, cause there was the first wave of like Instagram influence and culture where

it's like, not everything is as it appears on social media, but then now TikTok has like created jobs for people to maintain their aesthetic. So it's like, if I become a aesthetic creator, it is now my livelihood to maintain this aesthetic. It is as it appears, but it's your entire life yeah yeah and and i'm getting getting paid for it and the average everyday person is not you know so how could they it creates a new a new vector for an unrealizable like standard i didn't just paint a corner of my house beige and get only beige furniture my house is beige everything is beige i'm beige my kid wears beige that's uh

some corny shit that's not going away huh beige beige beige house beige young parents it will soon i don't know i'm beige i think i can be once like gen z starts buying houses well jacob you're gen once they start decorating their houses wherever they live all of Gen Z collectively wins the lottery you are Gen Z right kinda yeah you're Gen Z I'm like in the first two years of what is considered Gen Z

you got in on the ground floor I sort of like set the stage yeah you really set the stage how does it feel having a new Gen underneath you Gen Alpha's coming up oh Gen alpha i don't know anything about them they seem cool i think they're 14 right now oh i don't even know anything about them i'm not i don't know anything this guy you're lying i don't want to know too much about them i'm friends with these guys i don't even remember the last time i like you know it sounds like i'm trying to like I generally don't remember the last time I interacted with the child like I don't

Jacob's protesting Even have any kids. Yeah That would be wild if you had like four kids and it just never came up that's how I feel about if he cuz like If he has a like a eight-year-old child yeah my whole relationship to if he's every now and then seeing him and learning something i'm like oh badass like being like oh what do you lift shit uh that's a lot of weight goddamn we were filming something and he was telling me how he needs to cut because he looks too much like an action figure.

And that's a very funny problem. Do you think part of it's that his arms move on a very specific axis? Yeah. And he can be transformed into a white guy. Oh, that reminds me. I bought this Goku figure that has interchangeable faces and hands. So you can pose him in like all kinds of different poses. Because I saw a video on instagram of someone

using this figure to create an animation that was like just gonna say you should do a stop motion i saw someone do it and then i was like that's so sick dude you can also just have him stand surrounded by hands and faces to imply that he killed a bunch of hands yeah you should do it with that oh yeah i should put i should put the scary uh kind of white jarvis onto goku's head yeah yeah i love computers and then i can make goku the bottle opener instead of me and uh you can use your hands to type this is very funny to use this was a uh this was for russell's sister's wedding uh they the uh They had an artist on Etsy or something make a face mold of all the guests. I think it's a brilliant idea.

It's very cool. It looks like you're on Entourage. This is one of my favorite things that I own, even though I do not think it looks like me. This is a different man's nose. It's a completely different nose. It's a different man. It's a different man.

What do we have? eyes no not really uh like brows no let me give the same face he's giving yeah that's really he's got these like big elven ears you know i hate to say it but like white jarvis over there like does look more like me because it's based on a it's based on a real like. The model is from Drew Gooden. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Yeah. The white Jarvis's.

One day I'll have a race accurate figure created. There's a creator I like that works in this space. but her whole thing is like finding dupes and and life hacks to save you money so you're not buying like these name brand specific things love that because i get recommended things on instagram that'll be like a perfect solve for my problem but then i buy the product and it's like i just like a 15 year old like drop. It is a very appealing. I think my worst habit that I've been trying to fight as I get older is having an issue and going to Amazon to find the product that fixes the issue. It's not that that doesn't exist.

I bought an automatic pepper grinder because every time I would buy a pepper grinder, it just sucked. I couldn't get it going. This one works. I like it. I couldn't get it going. This one works. I like it. I don't feel great in the morning, so when I get into smoothie making, I buy a little mini tester out a blender instead of a big one. It's great.

I'm feeling better. Other times, it'll be like, well, the trash is always getting full. Oh, they have a trash Cuba that I could crush down that I considered buying. I didn't. Wait, that sounds so interesting. But it just breaks the bags apparently and it spills and like, and then you have to buy special bags. Half the time you're buying something that itself will break or doesn't quite work, right?

And then it just becomes more trash. But this lady, her name's Nina Poole. Go for it a little bit. I'm very interested in this dog hair hack they get very expensive especially if you have a very dusty home vacuums dogs and no like uh so what i do is i go to the five quarter store of course where else would we go and i get dryer sheets okay and i put the dryer sheet over the fan. Extra filter. And then I. Oh yeah, shark. That's a good. Click it in there.

And now while I'm vacuuming, it smells super good, but this keeps all of the lint and the hair out of the vent, the fan vent and keeps it it nice and clean. And it catches dog hair. I think I already said that. But yeah, this is my hack for cleaning. And I'm going to go finish cleaning my couch now. I just realized in the middle of doing this, this is something that I do. I like her. She's very likable. She's great.

Like a lot of her stuff too is like fixing your clothes so you don't just throw something away. This is a much nicer. Let me tell you, I love a real true life hack after many years. I was just thinking the same. Boy, do we know. You need to keep dog hair out of your vacuum. Okay, well, first of all, you need a glue gun.

And you need a Coke bottle. You will need a soldering iron. A box cutter. Go on Shark Tank, invent something. A friend who has just painted her nails. And is so hungry for dog hair. And she just sucks it up. Get in the oven.

Set it to 9,000 degrees. You need a kiln. Jordan's feet knocking things over. Needs to be on the bingo. I can move this out of your splash zone. Now, does that get picked up on camera? Or is it an honor system and I have to admit it? Oh, I actually don't know.

Because I won't admit it. De-influencing you from Amazon must-haves feels like an oxymoronic type. De-influencing you. Well, because you always see those videos and lists of top 40 Amazon must-haves, summer 2024. Oh, I see, I see. Because my brain went,

here's the products you need to buy to stop buying products. You know what I mean? You need a uncredit card. So anytime you purchase something, you swipe it again. Yeah. Like to speak to like the topic of this video, those lists that I, for some reason, I'm super susceptible to where it's like top 30 products. You didn't even know you needed like i love those and i didn't know i needed it and then it turns out that i didn't need it yeah i

didn't i didn't know because i love a gadget i love a gadget yeah but uh i love a gadget if i can minimize the packaging i hate packaging it really stresses me out yeah none of the products in this video or videos like this are things that people are actually seeking out like nobody logs on to tiktok or amazon thinking oh i see now i'm totally misread that i see now the influence influencing you from amazon must-haves yes so she's just saying that these don't solve a real problem it is a weird term it's like i will destroy your influence it's like a she's like a spell breaker she's like i counter yeah breaker. She's like, I've got an orb of protection. Yeah. I think she's blue type.

But then you see it and you're like, oh, that's a cool gadget. I'll get that. And then you get it. It's like novel. You use it twice and then it ends up in the back of your cupboard or in a junk drawer or in the trash or just not being used. So moral of the story, if it's a product you didn't know you needed, it's probably because you don't actually need it.

Well, you know what's funny about this is that even products that you need still require habit forming. Because like one thing that I have been trying to build a habit for, for ages is rechargeable batteries. I buy rechargeable batteries. I have the charger. I put it somewhere. I start to get in the habit. You forget to recharge. I forget to recharge. Then I'm somehow the charger has moved or the batteries have moved or I don't know which things have regular batteries in them and which things have rechargeable batteries in them. And then like right now since i moved i haven't like i lost a lot of my habits since the move i lost my rechargeable

battery thing and then i i know it's some somewhere in here and then i just was like i need batteries now so then i bought like regular batteries and then like the cycle continues and that happens to me a lot because it's like i have best laid plans when it comes to like changing i'm i'm gonna uh like you know i use tons of single-use plastics i don't want to but i'm like but i'm a imperfect person i'm like unable to set like if i was a computer i would simply change the behavior i would write the code to do different stuff but unfortunately like i have to do that every single day i can't always do the perfect thing that i want to do and then i succumb to what is easiest and most convenient i think a lot of people experience a lot of people that struggle with like their skin or something

or any kind of chronic issue it's not that they don't know the solution or want to get into it they might buy the box set of skincare nighttime skincare things and then they run out the first time and they realize they're supposed to have an ordering cadence they need to remember to reorder once it arrives again they you already actually my issue with bedtime routine stuff is that my bedtime is unreliable. It is a, it's not a, oh, 10 a.m. time for the routine so that at 11.30 I'll be going to sleep. Instead it's like, God, I'm so tired.

I guess I should do my bedtime routine. Instead of God, I'm so tired, I'll brush my teeth. That honestly, the Invisalign lifestyle fucked up my sleep even more so because I can't go to sleep without, I just ate or something. Well, I can't go to sleep without just eight or something well i can't go to bed without putting it on i gotta activate the habit of putting it on i i know it's easy to speak as old men and be like come on this we already know this but a little like how at

one point in time thankfully social social media platforms and youtube most notably started noting when they have ads because kids don't get that they do not understand they we think it's it's so obvious but when you say like there's a gun box you can order every single month they think like oh i guess just like jack sepp's i fucking loves guns no idea this it's easy to all my instincts want to do is like, yeah, of course you don't have to do that. But if I was raised exclusively with this being fired into my eyes at all times with no disclosure, not just for the ads, but also just,

hey, I'm kidding, you don't actually need this. It's just like a fun thing. Then yeah, I would probably have my mind blown by someone being, you don't. You don't need it. I'm wondering too, because a lot of this stuff, it's hard to see on the TikTok web, but does it have the commission tag sometimes?

Because there's a commission tag. Is it a shop tag? Yeah, because they're getting it through TikTok, I think. Or they're putting the links through. It's in the TikTok store. Helicopter. I mean, I know it's kind of hard to like no it's okay it's okay there's uh there's landscaping happening outside right now so if you hear any any of that our our apologies and also if i'm a little more frazzled it's my adhd brain trying to tune that out and there's also a battery that's low.

There's an AK-47 being fired into the sky. Yeah, there's a helicopter hovering. Back property upstairs. There's an FBI going, open up. You remember my old apartment where that ice cream truck was going 24-7? It was the most active ice cream truck in the world, dude. Most active ice cream truck in the world. Incredible.

You get ice cream when you move. We had one of those too, and it would stop in front of our house back at our old too and it would stop in front of our house back at our old place it would stop in front of our house for like 20 minutes and play the loudest music you've ever heard my dishwasher sings a little song

my laundry sings a little song the laundry goes on for like a minute yeah the extremely long song however once it is played I now know where my laundry is and that it is done. The ice cream truck doesn't move that much. You play it, let the consumer come. Just play like,

Ice cream! Like that. One ice cream. Do you think it's a front? Do you think it's like, I feel like... What if Big Turkey in the Straw has a... That's the name of that song. Sorry?

Oh. The song you're listening to. What do you get at the ice cream truck? I'll take a frozen turkey. Big Turkey in the Straw has a stranglehold on ice cream trucks. The song is called Big Turkey in the Straw? So for the record, that's what the song is called? Turkey in the Straw.

So you were saying big as in like big yeah but okay so tiny this is now a youtube short so for context i was just whistling i'm just going to do a hum in case the whistling bollywood people like that and then that's apparently a song called Turkey in the Straw. Oh, well, you remember the lyrics. There's a turkey in the straw. There's a turkey in the straw. I got a turkey in the straw.

And it's stuck in the straw. Someone help the turkey. And it's dying. And it's dead. And it's, well. Should have helped the turkey. Oh, wait. and gained popularity in American minstrel shows in the 1800s. Wait, hold on. Am I remembering this as a song that ice cream trucks would use?

Yes. Oh, yeah. No, this is one million percent. They're playing the minstrel song? Yeah. Well, they... No racial connotations. Oh, I had a girl and she was good,

but one of her legs was made of wood. Her hair was false and her teeth was too, and there wasn't much for me to do. This is Weird Al, proto Weird Al. They just did those lines, and then a guy sat down and they went, turkey in the straw.

Wait, he said turkey in the straw. He just started doing it. We're back up. Turkey in the straw. A turkey in the hay. A turkey in the straw. What did you say? Hey! Rollin', twistin' up a high-hooked claw. Any app or tune called Turkey in the Straw. Of course. All right. I'm coming in at... Oh, sorry.

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I had a girl. She was good. Well, one of her legs was made of wood. Which is, oh no. Turkey in the straw is an American folks on the first game popularity in the 19th century. Early versions of the song were called... Oh. Jacob, you say it.

No. No. I can't say that. All right. You know what's even crazier about this? Okay, Jacob, go to YouTube. N. Chain, space, hang, space, low. Oh. N. Chain.

Space. Hang. Space. Low. Reappropriating. I guess it works. I have a girl that's nice, but her legs are made of wood. That's no turkey in the straw.

Turkey in the head? Hey, hey, turkey in the hay. Straw and hay, they're things from the farmland. It was 1942, they didn't have much more than straw and hay. I'm broke, dude. Do the lyrics of this come from, do your ears hang low? Yes. And what is that about? Jacob, you can't sing.

That's just about ears. I mean, at this point. But it said the tune originated from British and Irish folk songs. Oh, wait. It's doing it again. Yeah, Do Your Balls Hang Low. I've heard Do Your Balls Hang Low. That's a very funny title.

Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow? Can you throw them over your shoulder like a Continental Soldier? That's actually maybe the first bar I've heard. Do they do that? Do Continental Soldiers do that?

Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low? I cannot do the double shuffle. I will admit that. Interesting. So we went around the world with this tune. For those unsure, the song is called Zip C***. I don't know why. Well, I don't know.

Wait, yeah, wait. Now we've got to Google Zip C*** lyrics by Author Unknown. Yeah, the author's known, Ole Miss. You're protecting someone. I don't even. Wait, yeah, wait. Now we got to Google zip lyrics by author unknown. Yeah, the author's known, Ole Miss. You're protecting someone. I don't even know who wrote this. No way. Is that a frog? No, sorry.

I thought. No, wait, wait, wait. Now open up a new tab. Flubs, F-L-U-B-S, and then The Fool, M-T-G. It does look like Flubs the Fool. Oh, my God. We made a commander of that last night. Where'd you get it?

The draft. Oh, we bought another booster after the draft. And then they gave us one. Oh, that makes sense. Because it's a promo. It's not in... It's KD's one right now. I actually literally just bought it for $15 on the internet.

Okay, okay, okay. Let's work our way back. Pop this off the for $15 on the internet. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Let's work our way back. Pop this off the stack. Back to the track. Zip **** bars. Oh, oh. Oh, no. Oh, it goes right in, huh?

What the ****? Oh, no. I need someone to sing this. I can't. My brain's not going to. Oh, zip ****. He's a learned scholar. Oh, zip ****. He's a learned scholar. Oh, Zip, he's a learned scholar. Oh, Zip, sings possum up a gum tree and a holler.

Whoa, they hit them all. Damn. Possum up a gum tree. Okay. Possum up a gum tree. Possum up a gum tree. Den over double dribble. Zip, zip jump.

Jesus. That sounds racist. I know this is what we can't say it. Does it mean fast black guy? Oh my God. You're right.

I thought it was like small. I don't know if zip means fast in this. Can we can we can we Google meaning? I think it's a very specific like meaning like inner city or something.

Oh, okay. Well, that's better. Yeah. We should put it. We dubbed his inner city. The song Zip F***ing was originally performed by George Washington Nixon in 1834 as a character of a free urban African American. He was portrayed as a well-dressed dandy who puts on airs and pretended to be above his station what does above the station mean like beyond like a not not a black guy yeah no he someone who's got

nice clothes putting on airs you see but see they say this is such deep american like racism and i don't know because now it says here on uh mtsu.edu it says a popular Negro song and so I'm like who was but it's like you have to be careful with that term in history I have to be careful with that term wow

because back in you know America in like a old time America they would say like I'm not going to say that word, but they'll say like black riots. Yeah. But it doesn't mean the African-Americans were rioting. Were riots like, it's like a party, right?

No, it means people were like white people were going in and like, so. NPR in 2014, recall that ice cream truck song we have unpleasant news for you and the most npr way um hello it's uh gorbert lee uh dixon wallace and i'm here uh from npr to speak about an unpleasant ice cream truck song you're gonna turn up the volume on your phone i don't match the luffs of anything else you're going to be listening to. This article is about a virulently racist song.

Oh no. Virulently racist. Wow. Not one of those casual. And then first word in the article. Okay. Ha ha ha. It says.

N***a love a watermelon. Ha ha ha. There is the distinction of the most racist song title. Is this the one? Wait, what is that? Wait, that's the song title? That's another song? Released in March 1916 by Columbia Records is wild.

I love the radio. I got to read this. Okay. So just don't, don't, close your eyes, Jordan. Don't read this part where, don't read the part that's in quotes. Okay. I was rather curious about a century old overt racism sounded and slightly amused by the farcical title.

When I started the song, the music that tumbled from the speakers was that of the ever recognizable jingle of the ice cream truck. For the record, not all ice cream trucks play the same song, but a great many of them do. As quickly as it began,

the music paused and this call and response ensued. You quit throwing them bones and come down and get your ice cream. Black men incredulously, ice cream? Yes, ice cream. Colored man's ice cream. Watermelon. I didn't know watermelon thing went back that far.

I want to move off of this. As much as it is't our oeuvre. It is, it is. ADHD alert. We press a button. We get an easy button that goes, that was ADHD. And that's what I call a tangent.

Under consumption is seeing, oh, what shoes are we wearing this fall? Come up 20 times on your For You page and knowing that the shoes we already have will work perfectly fine. Under consumption is not having a soda. You grew up with those cups? Yeah, but my mom, that was my mom's coffee cup.

Mocha pot. Or Cuban coffee cup. Yeah, Cubans love those. Instead, purchasing a new one when your previous one breaks and knowing that you'll be able to use this for years to come. Under consumption is not feeling pressured to buy an espresso machine, a milk steamer, a milk frother,

when you've never even tried making coffee at home. Under consumption core is really just an alternative name for living under the poverty line and living in the lower class. It doesn't mean you're poor. You shouldn't be spending any money. Wait, that doesn't have to be what it means. Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that. Yeah, wait, that one, that one is...

Run it back. Yeah, what did she say? She was like, under consumption core is another word for living below the poverty line. Under consumption core is really just an alternative name for living under the poverty line and living in the lower class. Like, I don't... There's other factors at play. Yeah. Maybe she's saying that people are using that term.

I mean, I'm giving her a lot of grace. Well, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt in grace, but it's giving too much credit to the overconsumption people to be like, oh, it's for the rich and the wealthy and all that. It's like that, it is enough to critique that argument of overconsumption on its merits and it doesn't have to be like a classist thing. Yeah, also it's- But I mean, there is elements of classism to it. I just wouldn't describe under consumption as poverty stuff.

I mean, if you operate- But there's overlap when they say you're living below your means that is mechanically speaking the same as putting more into savings than you would normally right now if you can afford to be putting more into savings i'm lower class because i put more in savings no no no no right it's like the fact that you have savings begin with or whatever yeah quote below your means in this case being lower class well I say working class I just using the terms they're using that is your means that's not that that's not like it's not another word for that it assumes like a middle class has normal class. I can't tell if she's saying like people are saying it's cool to do this when that's just people in working class households do.

Right. It's not. Yeah. I disagree with that in the sense that you're saying people in working class households don't use disposable water bottles, like plastic water bottles. That's just not true because I know lots of people in my family who are, you know, lower and working class who they're like, I don't give a shit. I'm not going to buy a reusable water bottle. This is not like, you know, to be clear, there isn't just like this natural diligence and financial education that comes with being below the poverty line. They don't give you like a pamphlet that's like,

well, also, you know, if you hit this amount of household income, make sure you don't buy water bottles in bulk. Buy the bigger ones by themselves. It's like a lot of the systems in place are deliberately obscure to keep people thinking that they're poor because of a meritocracy. They should be working hard, they should be doing something.

These are, I don't know, not too much to this girl. It's just a bad, bad understanding. But there is something- I could also be misunderstanding, but what's really interesting about the water bottle thing is that when I was growing up, I had a disabled mom and we just lived off of her social security checks.

I didn't have a water bottle. I just drank from the water fountain. You know what I mean? They're talking about a water bottle, right? Not like plastic bottles. Yeah, and then when I went to high school, similar to wearing Abercrombie and Fitch and stuff as like a class indicator,

a class indicator for me was a Nalgene water bottle. Is that like a brand? Yeah, it's like a reusable plastic. If you like search up Nalgene, N-A-G-E-N-E-L, yeah, you know. Nowadays though, there aren't. That was the, this was the, what are they called? What's the type of water bottle right now that we're talking about?

Stanley. Stanley. This was the Stanley cup of our day, of my day. I think nowadays, though, there aren't drinking fountains. Oh. My niece and nephew, when they were in high school, they didn't have drinking fountains because they're considered unsanitary. I have to have a water bottle. We didn't have drinking fountains, but I kind of never saw drinking fountains anywhere.

I think that just wasn't like the same. They exist, but just infrastructure wise, there just weren't many of them. Dude, I spent so much time of my youth huddled over like a drinking fountain that didn't have a high enough water pressure. So it was just like limping out the water a little bit and I had to almost put my mouth on it to like drink from it. It's like when you try and drink water upside down

to get rid of like the hiccups. Do you ever don't drink tap water type? Cause we just all drank tap water oh at school and stuff yeah like there wasn't a way to there there wasn't like a tap at school oh i mean like the bathroom or something oh no we wouldn't go to the like it was like a separate thing drinking fountain like in the hallway that's what i'm curious about was because it's like we didn't have the drinking fountains but it's we never even thought about it because it's like yeah i just go to the the bathroomains but it's we never even thought about it because it's like

yeah I just go to the bathroom oh and then you fill up a water bottle or whatever yeah yeah yeah it's like I just didn't have a water bottle or just like put your head under

yeah like a huge part of my elementary school was waiting in line for the drinking fountain when you're at recess and everyone would chant one two that's enough for you

yeah save some for the whales. That was, oh, I forgot about that. Hey, no blacks. That was a little before our time, I think. That's what you ordered, right? Yeah. Under consumption is being financially responsible with your purchases,

recognizing what you already have at home, repurposing items in different ways than they were intended. Me presenting a viable option for people who can no longer afford to go out and buy coffee every day is not promoting overconsumption. Being an underconsumption core queen does not mean that you're never allowed to buy anything else, but it means only buy it if you need it. Only buy it if it can save you some money in the long run. Well, also like, I think you're allowed, I mean, everyone's situation's different, but like you're allowed to have, I think a lot of it's just about not spending money unnecessarily but it's like the reverse of

uh in lifestyle inflation when you get more income it's okay to acknowledge that like okay well now i have the income i'm not inflating my expenses i'm not getting like a new apartment so i can't buy a tv it's not like nope you cannot ever buy a tv because tv is not essential and like i also think it's kind of tell it's it is telling that the term is under consumption core that is where the aesthetic coding comes in i just remember um like so the year i got an ipod it was the only thing I wanted. And it was like a combination birthday and Christmas gift. And my birthday and Christmas are six months apart. So it's like seven months apart. The first iPod video. And, uh, and so once I had it, cause that was like the thing that everybody had that I, I really wanted. Right. And so then once I had it, I did not have money to

songs were a dollar each. It was pre like Spotify. It's streaming. And so then once I had it, I did not have money to, songs were a dollar each. It was pre like Spotify. It was a wild time. It's streaming. And then I would also get friends at school to like burn CDs for me. And so sometimes me getting music would be paying for like a spindle of blank CDs and then getting someone to like, to burn them for me. Also, uh, I, you know, cause I was like a little tech guy. I got like a, a hand-me-down computer, um, a very, very old computer when I was quite young that we got, uh, either for cheap from someone's office closing or something like that. It was like a very bad shitty computer. Um, but it was what I had. And, uh, i would sometimes go to my aunt and she had a printer and

that's where i would i actually found in storage the other day maybe i've shown it to you the binder that i made where i printed out i used to go to my aunt's house and she had a printer and decent internet and i'd print out dragon ball z images and put them in sleeves and so i have a binder i don't think you've mentioned okay i i. I know where it is in storage. I'll bring it next time. And you can see like all the images I printed out, but the

but I was always a tinkerer and I always spent time on the computer because it was like I could go places and do things that I couldn't do in the real world because I couldn't afford to do all these things. But anyway, you know, Russell's family, they were doing pretty well for themselves. And, uh, and one thing that I did when I went over to his place is I found out how like the iPod stores media. And basically I connected his iPod and my ipod to his computer and they obfuscate it where like all of the the media file names were like fkgm and then it would be like uh the song when

you were young by the killers or whatever uh dot mp3 and i like found all those files and I just mass dragged them into my iPod and it knew all the metadata once it was on the iPod. And then some of the videos and files were DRM protected. So like there are episodes of the office that I had on my iPod that were from his account that I couldn't watch because I didn't pay for them. But then a lot of the music I still, I still could listen to. And that was like the Holy grail was just so a lot of the music i still i still could listen to and that was like the holy grail was just so a lot of the music i had was literally just like shit that russell had on his ipod because it was and then i would start doing that to people i'd be like hey could i if like i was in a place with somebody's ipod and uh a computer oh i'd be like hey can i this sounds crazy steal your music i

like i copy it can i just copy your music on music? I was not a gadgetry tinkerman. I was, you know, more suave than that. I was jacked. I was cool, et cetera. But when I got my very first, I, really, I mean, I was kidding around, man. You fucking loser. I was the only phone number I remembered as a kid. On a little rotary phone, I would call him up and I,

my uncle had recommended I don't sync my like as soon as I got this iPod that I don't sync it because I'd gotten it from them uh hand me down from them and he's like don't sync it to your computer do you have any friends that have a lot of music and so I went over I sync to their computer yeah that was real because you couldn't if you did it through the thing then it would just overwrite the music with whoever's account. Literally, I was so much of age like, I don't know, 10 through 12 or something, was me going like, I'll give them a fake name, but, Jason, what are you, what are you, um.

I left something in your house. You know what? Screw it. While I'm here, I will take half an episode of the audio only of the Bart episode where he tries to divorce his family. I did so much pirating when I was younger.

Once, like when I would when I would, yeah, Satchel Limitations is out. Whenever I would go over to my aunt's place who had a nicer computer and internet, like I had so many torrents running and they would take day even even with the decent download speed it would like take days for stuff to download but i had just so many going that it finally got through uh one thing i also

realized this is just like now we're just like sharing stories so it's not like i'm not trying to like defend uh or i'm not trying to say like no I really was poor growing up or whatever but uh one thing that was kind of crazy and it's a shout out to my mom who like you know passed when I was 11 I've talked about that before but one kind of interesting thing was that like I didn't know the extent to which you know we didn't have money because she kind of like always got me stuff i wanted sure i would get it like later and stuff like that but you don't have a conception of how like what would you don't know a color you've never seen right like yeah and it's like obviously

i had friends on the street who like had some stuff but i would just go play theirs and i'd be like oh i'll get mine eventually like i got an N64 really late. And then I just played the shit out of like, you know, my Game Boy and shit like that. But one thing I noticed was that after my mom died, I found out that, so I probably mentioned this before, but a lot of the stuff that she bought was through Fingerhut magazine, which was a, which was like, it's kind of like Klarna

and those like things now where you can pay in installments, but you end up paying way more money. So in order to get me the things that I wanted, she actually went into immense debt to buy, like we did not have the money, but we had like the minimum payments so there was just like

this big like racking up debt of like a n64 a game boy over years and years because it wasn't like i got a bunch of things it was like this year i got an sk4 this year i got you know uh a kiwi green um game boy color with pokemon, uh, this, this year I got, um, respect. I remember, this is not my original Game Boy Advance, but I remember,

um, going to the bank with my mom and her, like, like it, this was marked down to like 89, 99. And we like went into like a target or something and I remember her going to the bank and getting the cash out and me just like seeing

the interactions happen and it was like the the best day of my life but anyway um why did I say all this uh because I don't know what happened I don't know who paid that debt because I don't know who it went to yeah what I don't know what happens like if you max out a bunch of credit cards and then die what happens I'm sure it like somehow gets to your like because there's this concept of uh buying debt and you can buy debt for cheaper than it costs because then you have to go do the collecting and there's a very like there's a real business there that's like maybe amongst the scummiest scariest businesses around because you're just like hounding poor people for money that you're

a fucking bounty hunter like this is a huge plot point in the last season of um fargo oh and it's really that's right yes how they work it into the plot it's's also like, I feel like we get a lot of these practices and a lot of cultural behaviors like this are camouflaged by, shouldn't have gone to debt. You know, you made the promise. You were the one who was irresponsible.

It's like, I wanted to get a Christmas present for my son. Shout out to Walmart layaway program. There were things that were like my mom was like the queen of layaway they all knew her there yeah it would i just like had this concept of like my christmas present for the last six months has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere in a walmart in the back in the back rooms of a walmart getting paid for like in install in installments yeah is that how they would like it's like closest

i can think is like august for us i don't know what like what it is is like most stores at the time i don't know if they do this anymore um you would say i'm gonna buy this on layaway and they would put it in the back storage for you and then you would make payments on it and then when you finally finished paying it off, but at an increased amount. It's like a battle pass. Okay, right. But you don't get it until you're finished paying it off. You don't get it until you finish paying it off.

So nowadays- All the tension, the anxiety. So it's like, it was a little, it was still, it's one of those things where it's expensive to be poor because it's more expensive if you don't have the capital right now. And it's beneficial to the lenders. And it's beneficial to the lenders. and think about how many people never paid it off and they just

get to keep that money that you paid towards it right and so and so uh it's just one of those it's one of those things where it's expensive to be poor if you have the capital you just pay up front and then easy peasy but uh the debt thing is like uh when you're when you're buying debt because i know you all want to go into business as debt collectors. What about Pinkerton? It is cheaper than the amount because a lot of the debt is uncollectible because people died, people whatever.

And then similarly to, it's like if you go on the dark web, not that I've done this, but I watch a lot of true crime stuff. And if you go on the dark web, not that I've done this, no, but I, uh, I watch a lot of like true crime stuff. And if like you go on the dark web and buy like stolen credit cards, uh, you get them for so, so, so cheap stolen Uber accounts, stolen credit cards, all that stuff. You get them for so cheap because the risk is so high that your odds are that you're not going to be able to like the expected value is about like like it might cost you, I don't know the actual economy of this

because I'm not a scammer, but it might cost you a dollar to get someone's credit card with a hundred dollar limit on it. Well, yeah, because they acquire it, give it out to like 20 or so buyers. You go and acquire something under the credit limit

that would like notify Wells Fargo, cut it up. And now you have like 40 TCL TVs that aren't noticeably expensive, put them in a warehouse, sell them at half the cost. Yeah, exactly. And so like, I've had some sketchy Facebook marketplace buys where I'm like, where'd you get this? I bought a rug that we don't use anymore, but I bought a carpet and it was like a West Elm carpet, but it was like really cheap and I'd love a deal. And then the guy showed up and he was like, and there's a million reasons. Cause like things are just hard to get rid of. So

with things that are like bulky, I understand why people would give it away for cheaper. But then he was like, yeah, let me know if you're looking for anything else. We have a warehouse. And I was like, you have a warehouse of West Elm products? And I'm like, but you're not West Elm. You're like a guy. They use the expensive middle kind of expense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like a guy.

And he's like, yeah, me and my brother have it. It's in our garage. And I was like, so maybe you got this wholesale. There are legal ways, but it's also like so sketchy. Yeah. There's a good show about this. When I bought this chair, there were other, I bought this Herman Miller chair and Herman Miller is a very, very expensive chair brand.

And I am in a position where I could afford to buy it new. And there's a part of me that still is like, that would physically hurt me to do so. So I like bought a color that's like kind of a weird color. It's like hard to sell. It's used. It's a little bit broken. I need to get it fixed. But it still has all of the, you know, all of the bells and whistles or whatever.

And I bought it, I think, from a guy who's like, oh, it's just been sitting in the garage. But when I was looking for those chairs, there were multiple people who had photos of garages full of them. And my assumption was that they just did an office wholesale, like office closure wholesale buys. Were they selling them in bulk? No. Because I don't think I'd include that photo.

I know. I agree. Oh, here's the truck I found them on. And here's the corpse of the guy that tried to sell them. Yeah. Yeah, I'd, he's bald. He's age of 47. He's got a silver bullet pistols. One final thought about what this lady is saying.

I do feel like, you know, going back to this idea of shaming people or making people feel bad for not doing everything you can to be zero waste or whatever. I, I feel like she's doing a little bit of that where she's like, this is what this means. And like, yeah, there's some profound element to it. Can we look at the comments on that?

So like when a Jubilee video ends and everyone's like, it's actually about racism. It's a fun little game. And then, you know, it's a lot of people commiserating in the fact that it's like, uh, hard to live under

the oppressive machine of capitalism like I would love to make my coffee every morning in that little mocha pot yeah but sometimes

I'm running late and I'm on my way over here and I buy coffee at the cafe and also I like supporting my cafes yeah my little local cafes well it's like

even when we're like for us it's like oh we just did a phil's order and it's like it's a business expense it's also like i would love to make everybody coffee but like i've got an appointment and i yeah all these all these things that's the like lifestyle lifestyle inflation is negative connotation but like if you're being frugal about certain things and you're budgeting efficiently, you know what your surplus is, and you say, well, quality of life will benefit from this thing. I may be not going to buy the 65-inch TV,

but I'll buy the 30-inch TV. It doesn't mean you cannot get a TV. It just means that you're like, maybe... It's that balancing act. I've been so fortunate that my lifestyle has mostly kept up with my mental illness and lack of executive function. Because I mean, who's to say it will continue,

but it's hard out here sometimes. Hey, hashtag sad boys. The primary source of the bad habit of my like, I need to solve a problem, go to Amazon, is the like, okay, well, I've budgeted it and I'm not functioning. I should be able to fix this in an easy way, but nope. I need a different kind of Clorox wipe. I need my little helper thing. That's going to help me get back on track for a good habit. Like I want to, oh, I, I, I've

been drinking too much soda. I want to get back to drinking water. Well, if I get like some liquid IV packets, they'll like help me get back to like hydrating regular with water and I'll stop. Cause I, I, I found myself recently, I got like kind of addicted to soda again. And part of it is just that like your brain is so conditioned for the taste and the sugar and the dopamine hit or whatever it is, uh, whatever neurotransmitters happening that I like think I need it. And then it becomes a, almost like, um,

uh, what's the word? Like a routine. Yeah. When I feel this way now I need to, yeah. Even hearing that thing about like, uh,

you don't need to buy this. Yeah. I like the sentiment of it. It's great. Uh, dispenser or whatever. And when I hear that, I go like,

it's great. Oh, well, yeah, of course you don't. I didn't realize that this, the emphasis on beige chic and aesthetics was so pervasive that people watching this were going like,

Oh, I don't have to do that? Like that was, that's my naivety as to how over- That's the thing is, there was a swing hard in the consumerist aesthetic direction. Now there's a swing hard in the opposite direction.

And that's good. And it's a swing hard in the opposite direction. And it's like, yeah, I guess that creates balance. But you're fine if you're somewhere in the middle. Yeah, and many people are. But there's always going to be people on the extremes. But then also as creators and people who thrive in an ad-based economy, say for our Patreon, patreon.com.sadboys,

always be plugging. Discussion, spending only, no obligation. Exactly, no obligation. It's like ads make the world go round, unfortunately. Like, you know, everything free, more or less, is ad-supported or supported by something worse.

You know? And that's just kind of the situation we live in. And, you know? And, uh, uh, and that's just kind of the situation we live in. And, um, you know, it's like, wait, I will, I do and continue to do, and we will do on the show more ad spots. And, you know, when you see those things, like know that someone is paying for a billboard and, uh, and it's not like a, um, no product is ever going to like solve your problems. There's no silver bullets. And even when I was saying like, even things that are objectively like good still involve and require lifestyle habits and things like that to, to truly benefit from them.

So like, even if I, uh, was to start making coffee at home every day, which I do make coffee at home a lot every day, there's still like, well, if I wasn't in the routine, I'd have to build that routine. And so all that's to say, we just launched new merch. Anastasia, did you say when's it coming out? Where should I get it? August 9th.

It'll be linked in the description in future episodes, but maybe even this one. We have some very, these are very tasteful sweatpants. Yeah, do you want to show the back off? Because of my huge muscular back. We've got sensitive content crew, and then we've got sensitive content. You get it?

Because Sad Boys, it's content, but it's sensitive. We've got sensitive content you get it because like because sad boys it's like it's content but it's sensitive we got sensitive content uh sweatpants and uh we've also got uh some shirts that maybe you've seen us wear before it's you know a product that's not going to change your life uh but it uh it's comfortable it's comfort colors yeah if a friend uh wants to sell one second hand to you fine yeah do it it's yeah fire away yeah it is i see some of my old merch sometimes on like depop or like places like that and i'm like hell yeah if i see it at the if i see it at the thrift at the thrift store at the goodwill or whatever hell yeah like uh reuse i'm taking that back yeah excuse me ma'am this is mine

um exclusive colorway on Patreon. Yeah, so we are going to be, so for the shirt, Anastasia, would you mind handing me that? We should probably ask Warren James for the exclusive colorway so that we can have it in person, and a bunch of them, because I think it's cool. So this is the black shirt. It's got a different graphic than the cream one, than the cream one, but the back graphic is the same.

And I'm so happy with how it turned out. Uh, these are a comfort color shirts. Uh, there is a, a cream, there's a black kind of off black charcoal color. And then also there is a patron exclusive color that, uh, you can get if you're a subscriber on our patron, which you can do for as low as five dollars a month those patrons will also get their entire first month of patronage subsidized because we're going to have a five dollar off coupon code um and you can just listen to all the episodes and then subscribe and you can listen to all the episodes and subscribe the

extra content is not required especially like merch and things like that i never want to feel like i'm like you've got to get the jake paul merch and things like that. I never want to feel like I'm like, you've got to get the Jake Paul merch, you know, like that. No. Yeah. This is, we've always wanted to do much and that's the priority.

It's the excitement. And it's something I have not stopped wearing for the last week. And it's fun to design something that you're like, I like this and I want to wear it. It feels really, so as we are very sunny right now, I am still the scalp tanning bastard. Getting there.

Looking very nice. Very even toned. The line is gone, which is a huge dub. Mine, I still got one. I can't get rid of it because of the hair. There is. You can't buzz cut. It'll just get, then I'll go back, then boom, new problem.

And you stole it from me. A buzz cut. The first guy to do it. Through infinity and beyond. That was buzz. Oh, come on mate buzz cut i it is very very sunny cut that i got it thanks sorry i need to shout out to all the people who are like jordan said the funniest thing in the world and no one even heard it do we have to remove that from the bingo board or if that is that on there yeah the bingo board or is that on there? Yeah, the bingo board that says Jordan says the funniest thing ever. Cute.

My fave. Jacked. Best joke. No one paid him attention. Best mustache. Best mustache. Actually, let's put that on there. Screw it. There's one square that says it's packed with words. Jordan is funniest. I can't read it. It's so...

It's a free square. It's the... Something. Someone says something. Jordan is funniest. I can't read it. It's so... Right. It's a free square. It's the... Something. Someone says something. Someone says something. But it's very sunny right now and I like, you know, I like a little dad cap.

So I've been wearing the new dad cap a little bit. I like the sweatpants. I've been wearing the sweatpants and I literally have to go like, no, I have to choose one. I cannot go out in three pieces

of my own merchandise to go against... You can and you should. I did yesterday. Or I guess I was wearing two. I was wearing the shirt and the sweatpants. And if someone goes, sensitive content, what's that? You go, actually, it's my merch.

I go, don't talk to me. I do. I am the patron here. I owe nothing to you. Be gone, wench. How parasocial, me to the barista. Yikes, honey. They're like, order for Jarvis.

I'm like, relax. We're in public. We're not there yet, hon. Jeez. Asking if they want a photo. But yeah, so in keeping with the theme of today's episode, we are going to keep the good times rolling over on patreon.com slash sadboys,

where you can watch Sad Boys Nights, our Patreon-exclusive podcast, over 70 episodes so far, on average like an hour in length. Sometimes we go short, sometimes we go long. And today we're going to look at, on the consumerist trend, we're going to look at some old commercials. And now that we have received the feedback, the previous Nights episode, we did get a lot of confrontational constructive feedback and if you two would like to

also join us yeah you can join the discussion over there you'll get to see what is simultaneously getting Jordan cancelled by a certain community and then also many people commenting that it's the funniest episode of Sad Boys Nights that they've ever seen.

We are being embraced by, look, they hated Jesus. No genius is appreciated in their own time. You know what I mean? And yeah, so with that, we bid you farewell. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. We're sorry. We love you. Alright, I'm going to lie down now. Let's watch old commercials.

Another day. Another hope. Another sandwich. We got the hint. Presenting Lunchables Pizza. Three real crusts with all the toppings. Okay, this is fire. I wanted this so bad when I was a kid and my mom was Okay, this is fire. This is... I wanted this so bad when I was a kid,

and my mom was like, no, those are crazy expensive. They would never... No, my mom would never buy the, like, the packs things. It's still a thing, and I have eaten it as an adult, maybe within the last calendar year. Goochie girl, goochie girl How you doing, how you moving girl Moving girl, how she dead looking That future girl, future girl Yeah we on now Take my money, go away

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