Sad Boyz - Celebrity Breakdowns & LeVar Burton (w/ MacDoesIt)

Episode Date: September 24, 2020

We're joined by MacDoesIt (Mac Kahey) to discuss celebrities, being healthy in quarantine, and Jarvis's run in with LeVar Burton.   Follow Mac! ► https://www.youtube.com/user/MachaizelliDoesIt   Watch Us Live (Wednesday/Sunday/Friday) ► https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod   Listen To Us! Spotify ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/spotify Apple Podcasts ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/itunes   Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz   Follow Jordan https://twitter.com/jordanadika https://instagram.com/jordanadika   Follow Jarvis https://twitter.com/jarvis https://instagram.com/jarvis   Outro music @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

Hello, hello. It's me. It's the one and only, I guess. Yeah, I know. Okay, well, let's just start this pod. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. Oh, me as well. Jordan, you's here as well jordan's here as well and uh it's my first episode it's jordan's first episode he's new at this he's nervous but it's not just us it's not just us in fact if you're listening to the audio version of the podcast you have no idea who else is here unless you read the title of the episode we're joined today by a very special guest mac kahey macazelli uh what else we got mac does it macintosh computers uh maclamore

yeah um yeah and that's pretty much the show i think uh thank you so much for having me you have joined us and what else is there to say so that's it i'm here so mac is joining us today we're just gonna hang out chat talk about our feelings and other things also you've heard the podcast introduction but before we get into all that mac how was your week how was my week it was weird i just started dieting and i've been working out for the past like month, but I just started a diet and meal prepping and all that stuff. Oh, hell yeah.

That's awesome. My mood has been in a weird place. A better place, but a weird place. Tell me about that because I have been like a literal human trash can recently where I'm not, I've been stressed out. I'm not eating well. I'm aspiring I'm I've been stressed out I'm not eating well I'm aspiring to fit I have a bad personality um it's honestly just all bad bad sense of style bad podcast bad videos what are the the mood shifts that are happening right now and the mood shifts I mean

it's I feel I feel like brighter at the same time but at the same time like more like like I'm in a constant limbo or like a purgatory you know what i mean yeah like it's so like i'm so used to just like having like the world in my hand on like uber eats yeah and now i'm like down just like a few meals that i can choose from there's a lot of chicken and fish right now yeah nice rice base white rice yeah white rice some some spinach and all that. Yeah, that mess. All these flavorful ingredients. I like the idea of meal prepping a lot, but I'm lazy.

Like, are you following some sort of guide or using some sort of service? I'm lazy too. I paid for this. Yeah, it's a service I paid for. They send me a bunch of meals every week. Okay. Do you recommend it to, I mean, this isn't sponsored or anything. I mean, I'm on the first week right now, do you recommend it to i mean it doesn't this isn't sponsored or anything we can't

i'm on the first week right now so i can't really tell you about full reveal right now it's good it's like it's factory factor 95 that company it's if you've been seeing them pop up on facebook and all that stuff oh i haven't their food is good it's good and all that stuff there's also like freshly i think that's the most popular one i use freshly but right i need to change the things that i'm delivered because i don't like eating them anymore and that's just going back to like the amount of laziness i've now i've now resigned myself to still ordering uber eats despite the fact that i have fresh leaves in the fridge oh what a rush let me tell you i know for a certain period of, that was the closest I had to a kink. Yeah. Yeah, looking at my Freshly box with the

ice slowly melting and dripping onto the ground and being like, no, bitch. You make eye contact. Jack in the box, bitch. Yeah, make eye contact with the meal prep while you're ordering other foods. Ding dong, Denny's is here. Yeah, you fucking cuck freshly. Watch me

enjoy this other food. Watch me eat these carbs. I know, these McDonald's fries. Wow. Sucks to suck freshly. Just dripping all over your chest. I know, the oil just like, yeah, coming out of your mouth. I want to be doing what you're doing,

and I'm saving up executive function to get to get there. Like, how's it affected your energy levels? I'm better. I have a lot more energy. I feel like I'm not tired after filming a video anymore. Like my major problem for the past few months. It's interesting. It's weird to think of how much your mood can change just by what you put in your body people always tell you that and you're kind of like yeah yeah whatever

but it's like it's true i guess you're selling you're selling me on it right now yeah jordan doesn't buy it but i do yeah bullshit i don't want to do that yeah i really do always think back to like and i've said this a million times like whenever i'm talking about a hard time that i'm going through and my therapist is like well are you taking care of yourself at all and i'm like no is that a problem like is that is that bad what do you mean it's like stop talking about these fairy tales absolutely are you listening yeah am i taking care of myself not my food yeah whoa i wouldn't even consider taking care of myself you dumb donkey why would i feel terrible that's awesome so kudos to you how are you doing with um the air

quality in la right now because i have tried to not spend too much time well i'm normally not spending much time outside but now i have an excuse so i'm the same right now i mean i i'm in the valley so the air quality up here isn't as bad as i think like everywhere else is right now because the wind isn't blowing this way right but it's been like the entire city of los angeles has been like one big sapia color for the past like two days and it's like the weirdest the most depressing thing it really is my uh it looks insane it yeah it's not even like exaggeratable in san francisco was straight up red like yeah yeah that's crazy that's like some blade runner shit last night sadie and i went on a walk and she was like why does it smell so good i thought it was supposed to smell

like smoke or fire and i was like it does and does. And she was like, oh, I was thinking of barbecue. It smells like all of Los Angeles is barbecuing. And so I thought it was a good thing. And I was like, no, honey, we're all going to die. We are all burning. We're all burning. We haven't talked much since quarantine started. Like, how is everything going?

Are you into your routines now that we've you know this is the new normal yeah i mean i feel like i've gotten past the point of being stir crazy like it's just like at the point i just like might as well just get used to this life yeah also jordan is frozen right now as a smiling boy and honestly i know he's just really enjoying our conversation. He's freezing. He's frozen. He's holding a tight smile. Plot twist, guys. I'm the new correspondent for Sad Boy. Yeah, we do call ourselves correspondents. It feels like if you were writing a script about the Armageddon or something, the current state of the world with all the things that continue happening

would feel like you would get notes back that are like, this is not believable. This is like too much of a hat on a hat. You mean to tell me the sky is orange and the economy's failing and there's a virus? Like, come on. And there's a virus and there's been a confirmed case of the plague

in California recently. That's the recent thing. I didn't think anyone knew about it. I didn't share it with anyone on social media. So how did they find out? How did they know I had that? Damn, this shit's about to get bubonic. Let me check my phone to see if Jordan's okay.

He's gone into the great big red. Because we- Yeah, the fires ate him. We lost him in the fires. The fires got him. Yeah. Surprise. Oh, he's back. We lost him in the fires, yeah. Surprise. Oh, he's back.

He is. This is a great segue, and I feel like we've got to get you while we still have you. How was your week? Yeah, I have a hot out. No, but how was your week? Answer the fucking question. Okay, bro. A little bit of gotcha journalism on sad boys yeah you

were actually replaced the new sad boy correspondent is mac it's actually preferable yeah i'm sorry about it you know it still happens yeah well uh i got a couple people that'll back me up and that's my fans they all said they prefer you fine that was that was so fast mac i like that you're like holding the the mic like you are a correspondent i i'm just gonna hold this mic so that i can feel cool also yeah i'm gonna keep it on the mount but just hold it yeah but yeah jordan it was good i'm in a pretty pretty good mood um one thing that put me in a slightly sour disposition is that on friday my pc was supposed to be arriving jarvis was kind enough to ship it to me, and then it got into the country and they were like,

can we charge you $400 as tariff? And I was like, I wouldn't like you to. Yeah, it is my possession actually. Yeah, it's something that I own and is mine. And they just went, oh, but that's a shame because we are holding it right now. Oh Jesus Christ. Ransom, we are gonna charge you.

Ransom if you can believe it. And then it was supposed to come on Friday and then FedEx was, they had this idea that they could be incompetent instead of functional. So they left. They just didn't deliver it. I want it. I want it on Monday.

I want to stream. What's the most ridiculous part of this is that the computer is probably worth what? Like $2,000. And we have spent collectively a thousand dollars shipping it to you oh my god but on the plus side it might have been destroyed by handling yeah which is i mean honestly i'm i did what i could to secure the insides before shipping it across the pond but i'm excited just to see you know you should have an unboxing where

we just look at broken video where it's just dust. Yeah. Open it. It's just a bunch of dents. Like it's not even look like a computer anymore. Yeah. Honestly,

it's insured. So that'll just finance another computer. That would actually be great. Yeah. Hopefully the hard drive is still in good shape. Yeah. In case you're wondering, I definitely didn't talk about it for two days.

And I'm now trying to ignore that while I record the podcast. But yeah, good week. Good creative energy out of nowhere, which is always very welcome. And I'm making music again for the first time in the next three months or something. Very cool. Yeah. Good mood. Hey, I like that.

You know, don't tell him, but Mac seems like pretty nice so far. I won't. I won't. Hopefully you know. Oh, yeah. I'm't. I won't. Hopefully you know. Oh, yeah. I'm sure you heard all the stories, you know. Oh, Mac. That's true.

I thought there were just two of us. I was just listening to the audio version of the Skype. Yeah. Overall, good. What about you, JJ? How are you feeling? How's your week? I know there's been some interesting events in the last couple hours. i'm feeling like a crisp two dollar bill that i think is actually yours

jordan because i think it came in your possession rare and stolen people are saying your afro is incredible and i would like to comment that it is i still refuse to grow the fro fully i feel like i look too much like uh fucking kid and play yeah i look I look too much like kid and play. That could be us. That's true. But you playing. Damn. And you kid.

Yeah. And Afro is so much more maintenance than I thought. In the beginning of quarantine I was kind of growing one out and then like it was drying out my scalp

and all that stuff. It's like so much maintenance so much more than people like talk about it. People don't know that life. I don't know if it's my particular Irish-Kenyan blend

but it is no work like at all like literally wow just brag right now why not um but you know it's ups and downs right because my personality is bad yeah that's like um my hair is good my ethics are poor like the side of my beard on this like it's like i have i have some genetics where like some things are good and some things are bad where people are like oh do you maintain that and i'm like no that's just how it grows but then why would i do that but i feel like i benefit a lot from curly hair because i can cut my own hair which i did once this quarantine and mostly no one noticed even

though it was a very bad cut because all of it was hidden behind the curls that's uh that's my secret what's the what's the longest your hair has ever been um i made a video about it i straightened my hair once and it was like this like i look like jimmy neutron did it give you any brain blasts a lot of brain blasts you know look at my channel it's just blowing my channel is just blowing it's blowing. It's like a dusty game cartridge. It's just blowing. Yeah, JJ, what's up? Oh, yeah. So I do kind of want to talk about Afros, but first I will talk about my week. Tough. Speaking of like mopey or sulking, I think. I was kind of sulking because I worked really hard on this video that I put out

recently on Smart House. And I think it's like the best video I've ever made or at least one of. But due to its like narrow appeal, it underperformed on the analytics. Like it got much fewer views. Now, all of the feedback on the video is like really positive and that's something to like celebrate but i can't deny that like opening up my like analytics and youtube being like 10 out of 10 by like a mile and also like when the analytics are so low that you look like you think that it was a mistake i'm like is this is this right is this uh is this a glitch i don't, and it's fine. Tweeting on team YouTube. Yeah. Bullshit. Yeah, I don't think so, team YouTube.

But it kind of is a test of like, I knew going into making the thing that I was making something for me. And I was like putting my own tender love and care into it. And because I've been doing a lot of stuff for the podcast, I hadn't had as much time to do video stuff. And because I didn't have like a brand deal or anything this week, I just't had as much time to do video stuff. And because I didn't have like a brand deal or anything this week, I just wanted to take my time. And I'm really, really happy with

the result. And I think that that's like needs to be enough. But there is a certain fear. And I don't know if you guys experience this where I'm just like, Oh, is this the end? Am I am I is YouTube over for me? Is it like, I won't be able to make a living off of this anymore because no one watches my videos oh how how unfortunate yeah i feel like that's all of our fears like we always have that constant thought you know if it doesn't perform as well you're like up that's it it's over right you know i had like a you're like feeling a little shaky about somebody you're like texting with maybe you met on tinder or whatever or like you've been on one date and you're texting them and then you're like well the worst case scenario is that it's not going the way that i want it to and that they hate me and that we're never going to talk again and then they send you

one text with like a period in it and you're like well well they're mad they hate me they want to kill me yeah yeah yeah and it's funny i think that what i have to remind myself is one to like trust my and this is just for anybody who else who also like experiences these types of feelings, because it's something I talk to my therapist a lot about is like, I have to trust my own wisdom. I know that I can and will make popular things again. I also know that I wasn't trying to make a very popular video by talking about this kind of obscure movie or whatever. Oh, and also the fact that the initial views on a video don't determine its long-term success anyway. The video has the highest actual watch time of any video that I've made this year or ever, I think. And so YouTube will probably find people to view that video. The click-through rate isn't bad. All of the sort of health metrics are good, except for like narrow audience appeal. So I may fiddle with the thumbnail and shit, but who knows? I don't need to worry about it. I need

to just like keep my eye on the prize and keep making stuff that is fulfilling to me because that's the only way that I can keep doing what I want to do, is by enjoying what I'm making. And so that's how I was feeling right before we did this pod. I tweeted at LeVar Burton to watch my video, because LeVar Burton was famously, or unfamously, the director of 1999 Disney Channel original movie movie smart house. And I like checked my phone and he replied to it. And I want to read some of his replies because, um, it's actually just like what has happened since me tweeting. This is kind of insane. So LeVar Burton, I thought that he was just like, Oh, that's funny. Like, Oh, nice to meet a fan. He like move,'s funny like oh nice to meet a fan he like move like like the tweet and move on it's

like yeah yeah whatever bye exactly makes a copyright claim exactly so i tweeted i hope lavar burton sees this at lavar burton i made this for you and then he replied and now i can't unsee so he's roasting me a little bit uh to which i replied oh my god you are a legend and also jump jump the house is jumping a reference to uh the the hot banger from smart house of which those are pretty much the only lyrics that's the one critique you have for him not enough not enough bars yeah the house is is indeed jumping so so what then blew my mind was that he further replied having watched the movie lavar burton said clearly there were interpretations of the plot and character motivations that escaped me while i was making the film watching your analysis has rocked me to my creative core

and then he followed and yes the house is indeed jumping so so now you're best friends now you guys are making a film together right uh yeah and then i told him you know what a house it's always our house reboot it's always nice to meet a fan i told lavar burton and then randomly and this was very unexpected my video was retweeted by steve blum who is a voice actor i think best known for being the voice of spike spiegel in cowboy bebop which is kind of insane i don't know it's a random i don't know how lavar burton and steve blum kind of blended together to voices of a generation i know i don't know how i feel it's been an emotional roller coaster but i am creatively fulfilled

and that's exciting does the the performance have any bearing on that? Well, in a fake way, like my five minute crafts video, I liked a lot and then it didn't get a lot of views. And I thought, I was like, oh, it must be a bad video. And then six months later, it got like 9 million views or whatever. And then I was like, oh, I guess it is a good video after all.

I am a good person. Yeah. And so I think that that should have taught me to not worry too much about these things and not try to judge like my creative fulfillment off of the performance of a video. But I'm human and it's still. But you got LeVar Burton's attention. For people that don't know who he is, he's a director of Smart House. But then he also was the face of Reading Rainbow, guys. For all the people who are our age, I guess. I don't know if people younger even know what the hell that is yeah jordan's frozen again he was also in star trek the next generation i mean he's been

all over the place uh he he had a cameo in community uh one of my favorite cameos uh on one of my favorite shows he was like the face of he was like the black man of the eighties other than Mr. Bill Cosby. Yeah, I know. He's the only black man of the eighties now. Now, yeah. We don't speak of the other one right now. He's the only one who withstood the test of time. That was my week. I presume Jordan will be joining us shortly, but I do want to continue talking about we discussed this earlier mac have you heard the news about demi lovato's uh fiancee fiancee that entire mess i'm like oh you know poor demi lovato you know she never gets a break in my eyes i know no i agree it's a break i agree so so demi lovato let's give a little bit of background demi lovato

is a former barney star former disney star current star of music she she makes music she's got she's got bangers she's a very talented singer she's been very open and talking about mental health which is cool she was in camp rock you know stars literally i just i was literally just watching um the cast of sunny with a chance to like a zoom call reunion yeah literally one of the cast members like so what has everyone been doing since the end of the show and she just jumped in first rehab several times and then i went oh well you can start i was like she'll she's yeah she's she's extremely open about the things she's going through, which is needed for a public figure like that. Exactly.

And even with Jordan and I in starting the show also wanted to help to normalize like just discussions about mental health because it's such a thing that you experience every day. And we have a society where you're made to feel like you're being weak if you express anything like that. Like I just saw- Express the need for help. Yeah. Express the need for help or express that you have a problem, even if you're working on it, even if you have solved the problem for yourself, that it's still seen as weakness by mostly toxic masculine personalities. But the society is kind of full of those unfortunately and that message carries one thing that is you know just to sidetrack a little bit do you follow sports at all no i'm very gay um noted noted um so there's this commentator named Skip Bayless who's like kind of known for his like very incendiary takes.

And he, like the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, had a death in the family. I believe his brother passed away. And he openly spoke about going to therapy and dealing with the loss of his brother and how it, you know, the depression that he was dealing with through that time. Which I say, amazing. We need more people in sports to be talking about this stuff. We've, you know, it's become a lot more common that people are starting to speak up and hopefully we're reaching a more critical mass of just more globally having that shorter discussion across everyone. A better conversation about mental health. A better conversation from all walks of life, right? Because everyone deals with this stuff.

But then like this commentator was like, I don't know. You're the quarterback of America's team. Anything that you say that can be viewed as weakness will be like exploited. And if you're a leader- That's such, it's such like a double-edged sword because there's so much pressure for one human

to be in such a big spot like that 24-7, like Demi Lovato and all of them. But then at the same time, they're not allowed to talk about the mental struggles of being spot like that 24-7, like Demi Lovato and all of them. But then at the same time, they're not allowed to talk about the mental struggles of being in the spotlight 24-7. That's so, I don't know, it's so odd. It's such like an odd like. Well, yeah, and then you see like crazy antics

from like Justin Bieber or some shit. And it's like, oh, Justin Bieber's so crazy. It's like, yeah, but. All right, we got Jordan back with me. We came back. So we were just talking about public figures talking about mental health. And when you're in a particular stature in society, there's a lot of stress and strain that, you know, is unique to that position. But we also

like make it difficult for people to be open about their struggles and their mental health. And so if you are thrust into the spotlight and don't have a really good support system and don't have care to your mental health and stuff, then you see a lot of these celebrity antics that are crazy and we kind of just make fun of it. You see this with Kanye as well. There's not room for the dialogue. It's tough because no one... It's like it's like boohoo you're a celebrity you're rich and famous and all that but not having the space to discuss mental health or or making fun of people for their crazy antics or being crazy i keep saying in quotes because that's like the

thing it's like oh isn't it funny how crazy this person is is is ultimately uh toxic i think yeah having the audacity to be crazy despite also having money like i how can you have money and be crazy yeah like you have you have everything in your life you have why be crazy why be crazy sadness is a zero-sum game and if you're being sad you're cheating because i'm sadder than you yeah and honestly like you're taking away uh attention like what do you want attention like? Like everybody needs attention. It's like, no, these are cries for help. It's like the way the media treated Britney Spears in 2005, 2007.

Oh my God, yeah. Right? Sad, very sad. I didn't follow the narrative all the way to its, I don't know what the conclusion was. I don't know the full narrative. I just know the big landmarks of those times, I guess. The beating the paparazzi with a with the umbrella and then oh yeah shaving her head well so yeah i don't know the full story with amanda binds but she seems

like she's in a better place now i know she's like better yeah she she went to fit them she has like a designer's degree now and i think yeah i think she's like engaged yeah shout out shout out manda please um out of the pod Spears, like, yeah, had this big public breakdown. And it was because of something very, I don't fully know what led up to that shaving her head thing. But I believe it was something like super serious, like something about her child or something about a relationship. It was like something that was very normal, like to be stressed about. I think she was also in the middle of a custody battle. A custody battle. I think the pressures of just being Britney Spears on top of the mess between her and

Kevin Federline that was happening and unfolding in front of everyone just kind of made her break a little bit. And then everybody's just like, oh, Britney Spears is crazy. She shaved her head, you know, TMZ headlines. And every headline is kind of the spectacle of this breakdown. Even with Kanye in like 2020, it's all about the spectacle of the breakdown and not making sure that people are getting the help and resources they need. And that's a bummer.

I think about there's a Sprink Ocean song, and we will get back to Demi Lovato. I love this tangent. I know. It's a good one, though. We're on our way back. We're on our way back. We're on our way back. There's a Sprint Ocean song called Super Rich Kids. Oh, yeah.

Nothing but fake friends. It's about this very interesting kind of tragic story of if you are born into wealth, you don't benefit from the fame or whatever. You have all these resources, but none of your problems are treated as real. And also you may be neglected by your parents because your parents may be off doing something or like living their lifestyle. It's a great song. And it's also Earl Sweatshirt has this line where he's like, he's got, it's a great Earl verse, but he's like, you know, treat us like we can't erupt.

These people are like treated like they can't break down and then something bad happens and then it's like a tragedy, you know? Close your eyes to what you can't imagine. Yeah, exactly. And so that's the thing. It's like mental health is everywhere and you don't get a free pass just by having means. And I think that that's something

that we could all keep in mind as we're thinking about celebrities and stuff. So Demi Lovato. Welcome to the weekly segment. So the Demi Lovato situation is, Demi Lovato is engaged to this man named Max Erich, I believe. Enrich?

I don't know. I don't want to say his last name. It's E-H-R-I-C-H. Erich. It's impossible to know. I don't know. Eh, eh, eh. Rich? Eh, rich. It's what youH-R-I-C-H, Erich. It's impossible to know. Rich. It's what you say when someone, a famous person, tells you about their mental health problems.

You're like, rich. Rich. So she's engaged. And I saw this tweet, or Sadie saw this tweet this morning and shared it with me. Demi Lovato's fiance, Max Erich, Eric, is currently being criticized by fans after his old tweets and comments concerning Selena Gomez have resurfaced on the internet. So we're going to stop there. Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato have a long and storied relationship. They were co-stars on Barney as children. They were then later... Wait, really? I didn't know that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's where they first met, on Barney. They were they were then later i didn't know that yeah yeah yeah that's where they first met on barney they were on each other's shoulders inside of barney yeah they were barney yeah they were barney together and demi's mad because she had to be the legs yeah she had to be the knee and uh selena was the bar so apologize i'm sorry so they went on to be on disney together i know it was like 2006 2009 ish they had a vlog together called like selena and demi did you ever yeah they were like the like second most subscribed youtube channel they were huge on youtube they were really together and then like right they're right behind miley and Mandy. I remember it was Miley and Mandy and then Selena and Demi were the top two like subscribed females on YouTube. Yeah.

Before Jenna Marbles came in. I watched, I remember watching. May her reign be long. I watched their vlogs. I remember it was like, cause it was like when I was aging out of the Disney channel, but seeing them in this light was interesting. I had no idea. I don't know how that never, never in my realm of influence. That's weird.

So then I believe there's like some sort of adversarial relationship that has developed between Selena and Demi because Demi had her finsta leaked. Did you hear about this a while back, Mac? So can you speak on that while i pull up some of the receipts i don't i'm not fully certain about it i don't even know if it really was her finsta but apparently as she had her finsta leaked and it was like her just like throwing shade at selena yeah stuff it was like publicly known that they had a fallout sometime like after disney channel yeah but people didn't know how hard the fallout was and according to this finsta it was pretty

hard i guess yeah because there were like lots because there were lots of slights, theoretically. Was there a clear end to the YouTube channel? Or was it a sudden severance? Oh, I have no idea, actually. It's just not going on anymore. I don't even fully know. I know. I remember they had the channel around the first two seasons of Wizard of every place.

It was before Demi actually was on Disney Channel herself. I just remember that there was a movie that actually was on Disney Channel herself. I just remember that there was a movie that Selena was filming called Princess Protection Program that starring her and Drew Sealy. No, that's another Cinderella story. That's another Cinderella story. Princess Protection Program is with Demi Lovato. Yeah. So they were both doing that movie together. Yeah. The Fence to Leak was the real tea. Yeah. I believe the Fence to Leak is real because I believe it was like deleted or something immediately after this happened but there were all these tweets that were just like her taking a photo with the people magazine with like selena gomez crossed out or

what the fuck it's just like all these things that like uh like a serial killer well it was it was a finsta where she was like, I don't know, allegedly. It was like, let's say allegedly. By leaked, do they mean the images were published? The images from the Finsta were published. And the handle for it was Trauma Queen Forever. Forever. That's pretty good.

But yeah, it was kind of savage. You know, it was an interesting vibe. So basically there's some beef, or there at least was perceived beef between them. Now, Demi is engaged to this guy, Max Eric. And these tweets from Max Eric came out where he straight up sounds like a Selena Gomez stan. Yeah. Where it's like, I'm going to read.

Now, he's an actor, I think, in his own right. But literally, someone tweeted, when I win this fight, will Selena marry me? Probably not. But gives me more attention. And then he quote tweeted it. You'd have to fight me first. And then what? And then there's like, ha ha ha.

This is in 2010. Ha ha ha. Selena Gomez and Demi are cute together. But boy, if you think Demi is prettier, you're wrong. No. Oh, fuck. If you think she is prettier, you're wrong. No. Oh, fuck. If you think she's prettier, you're wrong. And I'll stand by this for the next 10 years.

Exactly. And then this is in an article. If Max Eric land a romantic comedy role, he knows exactly who he'd want as his love interest. Selena Gomez. I want to work with her so bad. The 19-year-old pregnancy-pack packed star tells pop star in a video interview. She's so funny.

And I think her comedic timing and everything is so fantastic. I just heard her song the other day and she's so talented. He adds, she's a great singer. Also, I'd love to sing with her. I'd love to act with her. She's awesome. You know, who's not good at any of those things. Yo, but real talk, but real talk.

But real talk. There's another tweet here where it goes, I don't know if this is real. Allegedly, this is in 2015. There's a female singer that screams so much. That's why my girl S is better than you know who. It's so sketch because did this man get close to Demi? Because it was like like is she the

consolation prize like i don't know like a linkedin strategy to get to i i hope not i don't think i mean people's opinions can change they can't they can't you know it's just awkward it's just awkward that there's so much public standing you know going back to like five years ago mac have you ever like i guess either of you have you ever done a tweet cleanse have you ever run through like the archive and been like oh this could no no not really i mean i probably should do that i mean i've never really tweeted anything cringe worthy yeah okay i don't think so real quick real quick somebody's like wait does this mean you can't like anyone before your current love? People change and grow. A hundred percent.

A hundred percent. It's just, I think the optics of like the publicly standing is a little bit weird. Yes. That's the only thing. It's just, it's a person in a public position who's like pining over this person publicly and then is like engaged to their previous best friend. It's just interesting. There's nothing wrong with it.

It's explicitly endorsing them over the other one yeah yeah kind of leaning into the demi versus selena which i assume they were getting all the time like i assume they were getting that a lot it is absolutely not the same as changing your interest in a person i want to say that like i'm sure they're happy and that's great and i'm happy for them did anything come i don't i don't think so i just thought it from them i just thought it was interesting he was like so publicly standing and then also shading tippy lovato like through his standing of selena but it's not it's not like i want to clarify it doesn't matter like it's obviously like it's like time it's just people change it's just interesting you know it's like he was 19 at the time right he was 19 yeah you know us being 19 oh 19 year olds you know we get

into the the celebrity beefs yeah do you have a go-to when you think of your teens a go-to cringe moment in that realm like something that you're just in the shower and then like, like nom, just like flashback to the terrible moment. A terrible moment? No, not really. I mean, the way I dressed, I used to like wear like Aeropostale and Hollister. I like my, like my freshman year of high school. And now I look back and I'm like, ew. But that was, that was the, everybody was doing that though, right?

I just like the, like the shirts with like the big words that said Aeropostale going down the side of it. Aeropostale just fully across the chest. Yeah, like fully across of it. I feel like that might have come full circle. Uncomfortable shirts too. They might be trying to dig those out. Not even comfortable to wear because the sewing of the Aeropostale thing would scratch your chest the entire day. You're just there getting the scratches and you're like, it's worth it.

This looks amazing. entire day going you're just there getting the scratches you're like it's worth it this looks amazing luckily i think i mean hollister did change like the way they yeah sell their clothes but like back of the day just that hollister aeropostale look what was this what was the what was the um store i want to say it was uh anthropology or something where there was leaked internal memos about coded language about uh how to treat black guests that came in black shoppers i don't want to shade uh anthropology but like like this how the staff should treat them there's a piece in the cut that said anthropology accused of racially profiling black customers there's a code name for in-store surveillance it's just the n-word yeah well i mean it looks it looks like

the code name was nick which is like kind of a little bit yeah it's there it's there jesus also also also it's alleged you know but there's a piece in the cut that was that was kind of like what it's alleged you know it's hard to determine it's like you know but there's a piece in the cut it was it was kind of like what it's alleged you know it's hard to determine it's like the og trial you know getting used to say yeah i just like i'm more i'm more inclined to believe the employees at the large corporation than i am to believe the large corporation you know yeah i don't know why i brought that up but oh the styles of the early 2000s oh my goodness oh jordan going back to what you were saying about old tweets and stuff. I do look back at my old tweets, but I think that I always ran my social media account

like I was like running for mayor because I think that everything I tweeted was just like a dad joke. And I never got to, I don't know, incendiary or too problematic. Yeah, tons of tweets about city infrastructure yeah same mine i was just like tweeting like random things trying to be like funny like nothing ever like deep yeah it was always something that just sounded stupid being unfunny like that those are the worst tweets we should uh we should do a bit where we look at some of our first tweets like there's a website called all my tweets and you can like look you can like sort them from the beginning and i think that could be an interesting

bit you know i didn't have an audience back in the day so i will sometimes cherry pick tweets from five years ago that i still think are funny and like delete them because no one saw them and then like repost them because i'm like this is a good better this deserved better yeah it's like maybe now they will love me yeah exactly exactly i might see how funny i am i think as a personality trait i've like always thought highly of myself but i was insecure that i didn't have external validation to back it up and so whenever i'm i have the chance to be like no this was always a banger tweet and no one was there at the time. It was like a tree fell in the forest or whatever.

We talk a lot on this show, especially recently. Maybe you talked about it when I was in the void a little while back. But like, do you rely on a decent, consistent video output to make you feel like you are a whole human being? Do you get that itch after not putting something out for an extended period of time? Oh yes, 110% all the time. Like I just took a week off basically and I'm just like, oh, my channel's gonna die. Like every single time I take a break,

I'm just like, this is it. They're gonna forget about me. Scratching your neck. What is your posting frequency right now? It was once a week. I was doing well for a good like solid month and then I just took a break for a second because i was like okay yeah we're still in this time we're in right now i

want to stop for a bit yeah i have a little bit of beef i do want to say i have a little bit of beef uh with me and it's yeah and we can't you know we can't ignore obviously we have to get into it and this was gotcha journalism and we did get you on the show just so i could get you i saw a movie a little while back terrible movie and i thought wow this would be a great first video i've been trying to come up with a decent premise like this would be really really fun to do and i start writing a little script for it just some notes just some jokes and then i realized that one of the one or two of the jokes seem weirdly familiar and i'm thinking to myself man i'm funny uh man i'm funny and these these jokes are coming fully formed to

me the movie was loquisha and it is fully just jokes taken from your video so i just want to say you should have asked if i wanted to make the video i should have i should have put it out into the world before i did it yeah you should have checked kind of precaution going forward but did you watch that movie oh it's amazing it is it is the like best worst movie i've ever seen in a good second have you seen any of the what's his name who cares actually what his name is because fuck that guy um have you seen any of his other movies like the test i want to watch that no no i did not want to look at any of the movies wait bring it down bring it down for me uh what's the plot of loquisha no please what isn't the plot of loquisha honestly well literally progressive it's it's about this like it's this man who like works at a bar and people keep on telling him he gives like good

advice so he like tries to audition to be a radio show host even though like people do it the modern day even though literally the radio show audition thing said they prefer women and minorities because they have too many white men on the radio okay i'm i'm already worried about where this is going is this like a reverse white chick situation yes yes literally and literally he uses white chicks as an excuse for this movie so he pretends to be a black woman not like blackface but just like using the voice and pretending to be this character called loquisha and literally like this black scent that he develops is like not even a black scent he's just like screaming

screaming with like a small twang to it also yeah loquisha is already like uh that better be a real person's name because if it's someone who made up a name to just no he made it up he said he made it up can you can tell because it's so funny it's like can you imagine somebody having a name that i'm not familiar with yeah i know right wouldn't that be crazy what if somebody was different than me in some way so wild yeah but the movie is like a roller coaster of just like white saviorism you know what i mean like he's in the wrong the entire movie and then suddenly he's in the right and like the black person he was working with was in the wrong the black people he was working with oh at the end i was like wait a minute had to show them he he dragged the black people into this scam and then suddenly he just had a change of

thought and now they're the evil ones and i was like wait a minute right yes white is right turns out he actually and also he teaches them how to play jazz which is kind of him introduces them to chuck berry he teaches chuck berry how to play guitar that was good i love that was like it's also worth pointing out it's the writer and star are the same person yeah he wrote it wrote it, directed and starred it himself. I mean, that's like, he's a regular Shane Dawson. And only in those ways. And only in those ways.

Not in the Blacksand ways at all. That is troubling. I think you should make this video, Jordan, though. I mean, yeah, because the jokes are already written. YouTube already knows that there's an audience for loquitia so this is how you hell i might make a video about loquitia shit yes good send it to the more you know all i did in my video was i basically just described what the entire movie was yeah like but if you guys want to get into further analysis about it analyze his black

set you know the history of the black set you know i feel like i cannot analyze something without creating a whole world around like what i'm analyzing like we watched a few videos from like uh one two three go which is the five minute crafts people trying to make trim trim type videos where they're like narrated and strange and because of all the weird background stuff we just created a whole dystopia uh that is ravaged by a evil demigod named zeffo um based on the weird european weird european snack cake yeah i can't even remember what country it's from it's from the now canon country of bastabia that's the one we made up so it's i think that we would have we should definitely watch that and make a world i would love that very much mac is it your favorite movie it is my favorite bad movie ever seen like not even like it's just the premise of it terrible

the acting on top of it is absolutely atrocious you need to see it if you if you haven't seen the jarvis you have to watch it You will have a field day with it. It's remarkable. It's also, it's like mildly well put together. Like it totally looks like an indie film. It looks like shit a lot of the time, but things are framed correctly. The sound is recorded. They're using like actual hardware. You can tell they use like mics, you know? Yeah, like actual mics. They just record it on their phone. Yeah. They successfully used a camera and a microphone yeah that's pretty there's a budget like it's probably 600 bucks but there's

oh no you know why there's a fucking budget it's because the dude's like a real estate agent yeah the man he's like he's like he has money he's rich so you know what the world needs my movies that's like wait now he's now it's a rich guy who was like, let me tell these black people what's what. That's incredible. He's just so good at giving advice. I mean, what's he going to make next? I'm on board.

Where do I sign? He tried to submit it to festivals and festivals did accept it. But then after they fully watched it, they all denied it. There's an entire article him writing about like festivals like rejecting him and like accepting him and reject him again i'm like yeah it's like have you watched your own movie dude it's terrible it's insane i just want that level of confidence you know what i mean oh yeah that's what i've always wanted i'm like how do you make that and then go the world needs to see this i all the festivals

like this needs to be in consideration for best in show this is like i everything i just i just don't fear is helpful in that i mean that's that's the valuable part of the constant self-analysis and constant self-doubt is that you never create anything that you or you never end up creating anything that you don't see end up creating anything that you don't see pretty realistically you might even over critique it but there's no world where either of you would put out a video and say this is very very good and the camera's like upside down and you're like wearing a klansman outfit it's like one of my videos yeah yeah i don't understand sorry how do i see looped in on this t how do i get into the how do i miss the demi lovato stuff where am i not i don't know honestly like i i'm trying to how do you stay on the pulse mac how do

you how do you keep up with the on the pulse um twitter yeah just just just scroll here and there you know see what's trending you know i don't even scroll anymore on my twitter thing i just kind of see what's trending see what's going on and then like go on with my life you know it's at that point it was like there's so much bad things happening in the world i'd rather not indulge in it right now i'm just trying yeah trying to eat these vegetables ratio i'm just trying to eat these vegetables. I'm just trying to eat these vegetables, honestly. Trying to eat these meal preps. I'm trying to eat this McDonald's. I'm just trying to work my way through this white rice.

I'm trying to cook my fresh leaves, you know? You know what I'm saying? Okay, so first off, I think there's a service now that does this, but I want to be able to impersonate other people on social media and look at their feed. Like, look at social media the way they see it. I think that's interesting. I think I saw this on like the Washington Post like a year ago. Someone made an account that followed all the accounts that Donald Trump Jr. followed. And then they were like, this is how he sees the world because he opens this up and spends hours scrolling through what this is. And it's like very alarming so i would love to see like my favorite people how they experience social media like in terms of what's on their feed and

stuff oh there's probably some site i think there is some service that does that now if not make it yourself i i was gonna make that money i was gonna make a video about it at some point like how ariana grande sees instagram or something. I can't remember what I was going to title it, but it's yeah. Okay. Second thing, Mac, do you feel like you have a healthy relationship with social media? Not right now. Definitely not. Yeah. Yeah. Who does? Honestly. I'm just asking for a friend.

Can you even have one? I feel like social media at this point is that like abusive boyfriend that you just like keep on coming back for making excuses for that's true it's not really helping you yeah he's changed there's new tweets in here he's changed oh yeah you keep on you keep on trying to find the good but then the bad is like blatantly in your face but you just can't you can't yeah fully walk away from it yeah it makes me feel bad but every now and again there's a cute puppy so every now and then i see good memes every now and again, there's a cute puppy. Every now and then, I see good memes. Every now and then, I laugh here and there. But a lot of times, I cry. At least I'm not thinking.

At least I'm not thinking about my life right now. Yeah, social media is like an escape, basically. But at the same time, not really a good escape. I agree with that. Right now is the era of switching off Twitter as you turn to play the video you were watching and then shifting and pausing the video to turn on a movie and then never once at any point sitting with your own thoughts

or spending time with yourself. Wait, you pause things? I just leave something playing in the background while I'm like playing a game and like reading social media, scrolling. Oh, every sense needs to be simulated in a specific, I cannot watch a movie and not be playing a video game. Yeah.

In a massage chair, eating something like every sense is being activated at once. You have like 10 screens in front of you. Oh, that's don't know what's going on in any of them. That's like 24. It is. I want to feel numb. I do like to have something on a screen and then it just brings me a little bit of joy to like glance over and go, oh, yes, that's still happening. And then I go back to whatever I was doing.

Life happens a lot to different places. Well, I was going to say that like social media now in the end times is like, why the fuck not just be addicted to social media you know it's like at least it's something that gives me a little fix that's like safe you know it's relative like physically safe to do i can't go outside because it smells like barbecue i can't like i it smells too nice yeah i can't talk to other people i can't do whatever i at the very least can doom scroll and it gives me like a little bit of dopamine sometimes what's a positive thing that we can end on before we wrap this episode well yeah maybe this is positive i mean mac you didn't go into this in crazy detail and you don't have to necessarily but like what was the catalyst for you wanting to change your diet because i'm wondering if there's like a hey i want to improve my quality

of life tips that you can give to people listening that maybe yeah i mean i mean because i i did this diet thing before kind of like earlier with um as for a youtube video for someone else's channel and i really just liked the way it made my entire i just i felt better about myself and who i was as a person and just in general just have more energy and then kind of left that and like disappeared that and got deeper into my work in youtube and like kept on excusing myself like oh i i can't eat right i gotta i just gotta order this mcdonald's because i'm like too busy i'm too busy trying to be famous yeah and so i just yeah i just decided like you know what i i want to especially now that my my sister's pregnant and she's having

congrats to her she's having a child and i want to you know i mean i want to have a healthy life to be able to yeah to support all these people i'm still listening jordan was like healthy life he asked me the question and then i'm outie but yeah i just want to i just want to live a healthier life to be able to support the people that i want to support you know what i mean like I kind of lost the ball and that's generally what I wanted to do for my entire life was to help other people grow. And I knew that if I was hurting myself with what I was putting in my body and basically shorting

my life doing that, then I wasn't doing what I wanted to do. I want to be able to live. I mean, I'm inspired. I'm ready to delete Postmates and rekindle my love for Freshly after this. I just deleted all those delivery apps. I just deleted I'm inspired. I'm ready to delete Postmates and rekindle my love for Freshly after this. I just deleted all those delivery apps. I just deleted them this morning.

All I have is Instacart for the grocery store when I need snacks and all that stuff. Yeah. I got to do it. I'm done with Uber Eats right now. But if they want to sponsor me, I'm not about it again. That's so real. I dieted pretty intensely when I was like 21 ish and I ended up losing like 50 pounds or something. And it was great because I started to feel like more like I was in a body that was mine that I was like willing to claim and I felt like

healthy and stuff. And honestly, the best argument that I'm hearing from you now is something that I want is like, I am tired all the time and I do want more energy and it's such a no brainer, but also hard. Oh, Jordan's back. Sorry, Mac. I just did not want to hear your answer. You were just like, you know what? Nevermind. I caught a surprising amount of it. I was just unable to do speak or change anything about my settings. I was just saying that I think over the years, I've kind of drifted back into some old habits and I want to, I want that energy, you know?

And it's like, it's such a no brainer that it is like what you're eating and doing with your body, but sometimes so hard to- It's hard to escape old habits. It's hard to escape old habits. And also like, I think I'm very instant gratification heavy. And I know that like day one, it's not going to feel different and I have to stick with it to start seeing the results. And it's so easy to just keep hitting the proverbial snooze button of like, oh, well, I'll start that later. And today I'm just going to order another burrito.

So it's tough. But I'm going to check out Factor 95. Maybe I'll kick Freshly to the curb. Who knows? It's good. Even the people that review Factor 95, this podcast is sponsored by Factor 95. I know, right? You know what?

Let's not say a single more nice thing until we get that Venmo transaction from them or whatever. But apparently people are saying it's better than Freshly. I haven't tried Freshly though. I mean. People say that switch to Factor 95, say the taste is better. It might be worth them investing in the hashtag Cuck Your Freshly.

I'm actually going to Cuck My Freshly with Factor 95. That's my plan. I'm going to get Factor 95 and I'm going to be looking at the Freshly like Factor 95. That's my plan. I'm going to get Factor 95. They're going to be looking at the Freshly like, you little. You like this? Brand deal. Brand deal.

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