Sad Boyz - CleanTok Has Gone Too Far (w/ 24kGoldn)

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. You got this, man. Oh, come on, man. You got it. I'm Jordan. Big, big money Jordan. Today we're joined by a very special guest, 24K Golden. Hey. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Big money 24K. Big money Golden. Do you socially go by Golden for the most part? That's my real name. That is so cool. Thanks. It's actually mine too. Oh, really? Yeah. Decided to go by Golden for the most part? That's my real name. That is so cool. Thanks. It's actually mine too. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:00:27 Yeah. I decided to go by Jordan. Also mine. And I'm older and it was mine. What are the odds? What are the odds? Three Goldens. All in the same room.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Actually, I'll be Shadow. I'll be Shadow the Hedgehog. Fine. Great name. Played by Keanu Reeves. Sonic 3 movie coming out. Calm down, man. Hey, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Guys, I have a confession. What's up? I just noticed there's a hole in my big toe on my sock. And these are new socks, too. I'm the Uniqlo bastard. Oh, yeah. Look at you. That's awkward.
Starting point is 00:00:56 The nail's not even that long. What did you do, I guess, is my point. What's wrong with your balls? You have like a serrated big toe. Big toe. You're right. You should stop grating in. Sawing through your sock in your sleep.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Why do I have bobbed feet? Do you sleep with socks on? I start with socks on, but I kick them off in the middle of the night. It's like you're like a spaceship going in where you have to like shed the different parts of it. Into dreamland. Go into dreamland. Absolutely. Absolutely. The sock sucks flying off into orbit off the side are you manual or are you literally like no no no rubbing it with that yeah that right there oh
Starting point is 00:01:33 yeah there is something really nice about kind of feels like you're starting a fire when you're in bed you're like rubbing yourself together for like create warmth yo Yo, that's real. It is. It's like, I'm so glad to hear that because I'm exactly the same. Oh. I just fucking love wearing socks. Yeah. Oh, I love wearing socks. Those are great. No, just from privacy from you perverts, but also just when you're at home, you won't get
Starting point is 00:02:00 your feet a little bit dirty from the fall or whatever. You're walking around with some thick socks that you got on Amazon in bulk and they're really scratchy you can't wear regular shoes yo slide across the floor in them it's like a little mini ice skating yeah not on purpose though i fall bash my head oh i wake up british now he's doing the eulogy yeah there i am jordan died it's real funny he crushed do you have anything we were talking about this the other week do you have anything where it doesn't make sense that you like cheap out on it but there's something about like maybe the way you were raised or something where you're like like because i i think we both buy really cheap socks on amazon and then like i'm like these are bad i should just upgrade i became the unique club
Starting point is 00:02:38 asset but now because i like the new unique one even though this one has betrayed me and um the founder of unique club will feel my wrath i don't like i don't like wearing them in the house i'm saving them for life it's like for a special occasion you have a you have like a shadow box in your in your closet with like led lights lighting up the socks it's like when john wick has to dig his gun out of underneath the house been waiting for this moment. No, I don't know. Luckily, I get to like put socks and underwear on my rider sometimes.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So I have like a collection of like unopened Calvin Klein boxers that will last me until the end of time. Jacob, you have to get us those every episode. They're on my rider now too, Jacob. Where are they? Where are my calvin klein pants we split them one just this time okay we do one and then no green m&ms one suck each one time we share them like pacific rim no green yeah are we so compatible i tell you what though katie my
Starting point is 00:03:40 partner has the also wears the exact same kind of uniqlo sock. And you guys have the same foot size too. She's starting to run out of socks. I'm starting to get more socks. Oh, yeah. You're taking them away? You know what's fucked up? You know what's fucked up is I have mostly the same socks, and then I do the laundry,
Starting point is 00:03:56 and then I will, like, come out with different socks. I'll come out with, like, a bunch of different socks that none of them match each other. And I'm like, I don't even have this many different types of socks. How did that even happen? Why are they both black at same texture, but they don't match? Yeah, but they don't look the same. One's shiny.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I think it's like there's like crevices inside the washing and drying machine that socks get stuck. That's my theory. Yeah. It's not eating your socks. It's just saving it for later. Oh, right. Like a mouse. Like a pack of like tobacco
Starting point is 00:04:27 when you see a snake digest a mouse over the course of a week or whatever my sock is sat in there getting ready for me just ready for the right moment yeah that feeling when you know you're missing one and you grab that like little spike side part you roll it and nothing is there speaking of um speaking of socks, I was watching. My feet? I like to hate on Elon a lot, and that creates a Twitter feed where there's a lot of people talking about Elon stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And someone was making a video about, people don't know how to use the regenerative, there we go, braking on Tesla cars or whatever. And this guy was demonstrating how you're supposed to properly use it so that people don't get sick in Teslas. Because I don't know if you've heard this, but sometimes people who are in the back of Teslas, like this happens to me. Like if I get an Uber and it's a Tesla and I'm in the back, sometimes I'll get queasy.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Because he's just like jittery and jerky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a way to avoid that. And this guy was describing it and it looks, it feels like a normal video. Then with a completely straight face, cuts to his foot on the pedal, completely barefoot. No sock, no shoe.
Starting point is 00:05:38 What a sicko. I was like, you're a freak, bro. What is going on? I do kind of want to just break the seal on my feet being exposed on the internet. Actually, WikiFeet does have my piggies on there because of an old video of yours. Oh. I don't know who's in charge of that website, but they're like unproportionately dedicated
Starting point is 00:06:00 to capturing and archiving everyone. They're good at it. They're really talented I'm like where did you find this this is like my family vacation pictures from 8 years ago
Starting point is 00:06:09 or what I don't even look good in this my feet look like shit also my writing is like fine which bothers me what it's just okay
Starting point is 00:06:16 it's like a 3.5 I think I got like a 4.5 I don't know where I'm at well well well Mr. Get Socks for free
Starting point is 00:06:24 what do you even need? The rich get richer. Take off the socks if you're doing so well. Jacob, you have to pull this up. I just texted it to you. I see so many people complaining about getting car sick in a Tesla. Yeah, he looks like he would have his foot just wet. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And the reason why is because Teslas have regenerative braking, but the driver is not driving correctly. Normally, when you're driving, like, what the hell is this? It sneaked in. Like, he knows what he's doing. It started with just the big toe. Like a strip cheese. He burlesqued his foot under the pedal.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, yeah. Like the old style where it comes in the side of the frame. Boys trip it. Oh, man. Do you guys ever go to a bar and there's like, it turns out it's a burlesque show, like a trendy Highland Park place or something. And it's like, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I don't know if I was equipped for this. I don't know. With like the group that you're with, like I'm not ready to watch a burlesque show with these people. Yeah, me and Evan just got like some beers in Highland Park the other night and all of a sudden like a lady dresses Cleopatra spinning like little strings on her nips and stuff. And I'm like, that's really impressive.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Very cool. Yeah, it's cool. I am, it's weird to have to raise my volume to speak over a remix of like Love in this Club. Arabian Nights. Yeah, Arabian Nights in this club yeah all right p we just killed the club oh yeah okay yeah that happened to me i was at a corporate event and i don't think they expected it and so then it became a little bit awkward they had it at a burlesque bar i think it was i don't know that it was known that it was a burlesque bar it was like oh we like rented out there was this like private area in this bar and then like the lights
Starting point is 00:08:09 went low and like dancers came out and everybody was like uh-oh what is this there's a section uh in highland park you guys been to highland park bowl so like the weird thing about highland park bowl is there's two bars pretty wide open space but there's these parallel bars in a room, like basically the equivalent of like that end to that end. And there's just two big square like pub style bars and then a set near each one for basically dates. Like it's a pretty decent Friday night spot. Most of the space filled up with people having a regular bar time.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Is that the one that has the comedy venue attached? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one by the side. Bow people having a regular time has the comedy venue attached yeah oh yeah yeah bowling alley two bars and a comedy yeah and some room there's also just some other show baby but that when that balesque show kicked off and there was just so visibly a bunch of people on first tinder dates and the guy on each one of them was like what's the ceiling doing what's going on oh bowling there's bowling how interesting i love the art actually i think it's a really impressive art yeah the choreography is spectacular not that i can see it and i didn't look and i wouldn't but i would because i respect sex work there's a bar in san francisco and i cannot remember the name of the bar with the san francisco bastards but there's a lot of um naked people on the walls and i remember
Starting point is 00:09:33 going there with co-workers like not knowing what it was like i got this great spot you guys are gonna yeah someone else someone else did pulled that shit and you're looking up center and i feel like i'm that meme of of the dog pulling up to the other dog. The one dog's looking ahead like I'm not, I don't see the nudity. I'm a professional. That's what I felt like. It's kind of a funny premise. You're just like, what are we performing for?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Like, what are we doing? Yeah. You're like, I don't know. Like, I don't look at stuff. Oh, yeah. You're like, no, I'm not a? Yeah. What are you like? Burlesque dancing? I don't know. Like, I don't look at stuff. Oh, yeah. When you're like, no, I'm not a sexual being. Like, you're not like the total gooner when you get back home. Yeah, I'd pick the painting off the wall.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yo, that fucked me up because. Gooning? No, because. Yeah, gooning. It fucked me up. It fucked me up, dude. Gooning rehab. You're like sweaty.
Starting point is 00:10:22 One arm is huge. You look like an ogre from like a fantasy game. There's a, there was, okay. So, you know, Arsenal football club. Yeah. So like Arsenal fans are called goony, goon. Gooners. Well, they're, they're like, they're like called gooners,
Starting point is 00:10:39 but then it's like a play on something else that they are. It's like, there's like kind of a progression of words. It's like a nickname. Yeah. play on something else that they are. There's like kind of a progression of words. It's like a nickname. But anyway, there was a headline recently that like The Guardian posted and they knew exactly what they were doing. They said like, Anne Hathaway is a secret gooner.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Whatever. Wait, Jacob, can you Google Anne Hathaway gooner? I don't know. Yo, make sure you got safe there, Sean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Anne Hathaway is a secret gooner and now her reinvention
Starting point is 00:11:07 is complete no that's crazy you're from the bay yeah I'm from San Francisco how long you been down here I've been down here for like six years now
Starting point is 00:11:17 yeah coming up on six years moved down for like work career I came for college oh okay
Starting point is 00:11:24 yeah I went to USC for like five minutes and then i dropped out yo and then i've just been yeah dugging it out since then five minutes what's that twenty thousand dollar debt yeah exactly i got a scholarship i got a scholarship what were you going to going to study everybody's surprised when i say this because they all expect like music or music industry but i just went for like regular, like finance bro business. Let's go. Yeah. Now you can just watch TikToks for that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I got my full $70 million education. Yeah, there you go. The negotiation mindset means you get free socks. I get free socks. You would later. Was music just like hobby? Then you were just like posting some stuff up and then it just kind of took off and you were like,
Starting point is 00:12:02 I'm going to ride this wave. Yeah, kind of. But I started making music when i was like 15 okay and then when i was 17 i was like listening to soundcloud one day and this was like peak like low pump smoke perp like right era and i remember just thinking like yo i feel like i could make better music than this so like if they could do it, why not me? That's how I felt watching NBA playoffs. I was like, hey, put me in coach. Isn't it so weird when they like throw the ball somewhere else?
Starting point is 00:12:34 And they put it in the hole. Yeah, put it in the hoop. What do you do? If it was me, I would put it in the hoop. If I were in the crowd, I would catch the ball when they missed. LeBron, watch. Dumbass. I just immediately full break all my limbs. And so then were like all right i can do this i feel like that's how it starts that's
Starting point is 00:12:50 why we have a podcast because you guys are watching the conspiracy theorists right we're like we're like you know what i know about tech yeah um was that like did that go zero to 100 or like was it like a slow burn well i don't know because 100 is different every time like for everybody so right i remember when i fucking got a million streams on a song i was like oh i fucking made it i'm out of here like yeah yeah get me out of this place right and then the the bar is always kind of like set further and further and further hedonic treadmill whatever that means yeah that's uh that's like when um well we talk about it a lot but it's where if somebody wins the lottery after a few weeks they're like happiness is like a certain like elevation because like oh my god i'm rich and famous or whatever i've held the big
Starting point is 00:13:42 check and then a few weeks later they reset to normal and then they've kind of got and that happens just to all of us in our careers you reach a new plateau and you're like okay if i get to this next thing i'm gonna be happy yeah and then you get to that next thing and you're like okay i need the next thing and then that never ends and then you die if you weren't aware of it you know you've got to you know because like i think the thing for for us who are all not to speak to your situation but like we you know we've been fortunate in life you know we're up yeah and uh we they broke we up and then like you get your money i'm not you funny yeah we have all the tools to be happy right there's nothing like material
Starting point is 00:14:25 or something that we're going to be able to grab that's going to like fix it or like make you know the credits rolled on life and be like haha you know you're happy forever now it's like so is that like what you're feeling where it's like okay it's a million streams and now is it i need 10 million streams or or this guy over here has 20 million streams. Yeah, I like what you said about having the tools to be happy. Yeah, absolutely. If you're alive, you have the tools to be happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might be in a fucked up situation.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Right. But there's people in fucked up situations that are waking up with a smile on their face every day. It's true. It's kind of like a reverse hedonic treadmill where you have to make the conscious decision to step off of it. Yeah. And then you can observe the things you don't have. And it's not to say that like your conditions and the material, anything you have, wealth or support, whatever, is not a huge impact on your well-being.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But I definitely don't want to speak to people in harsher circumstances, but there is like, I can think of some times in my life at like kind of rock bottom where some of that rock bottom could have been alleviated by my uh i don't know attitude yeah i would embrace like a lot of nihilism with it right like when i'm all the way down here i can reinvent myself as a guy i don't even care indulgent sometimes yeah it's like branding i'm actually sad and mysterious now i'm making it cool that i'm so sad but in reality you want i just have sciatica but you're like that's not that interesting um the reason i i can i only i try to only speak to like my experience but i know
Starting point is 00:15:57 in my life there i have the tools you know what i mean like there's not nothing there's not anything i need there's things i want there's not anything I need. There's things I want. There's things I pursue. That's like the beauty of life, you know? But if I'm, I still go to therapy every week.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm still like working on stuff, but. You're not fixed yet. I know, man. You never will be. They say next time. That's how they get you back.
Starting point is 00:16:23 First one's free. They're like, oh, it's like a a cliffhanger at the end of Lost you're doing so well oh my god I just remember
Starting point is 00:16:31 we can't do it better right now huge breakthrough next week oh but we're out of time dude you're not gonna believe and it ends like Lost where they go like what the hell is that
Starting point is 00:16:37 we discover like a smoke monster yeah I guess I'm crazy inside of my mind do you have like do you ride the high on certain things I mind uh do you have like uh do you ride the high on certain things i know like maybe you have like an insane show at a scale you haven't done before and then you get i don't know 72 hours of bliss and then it's i need another show like when
Starting point is 00:16:55 you get a fresh pack of calvin klein's oh we're not butthurt about that by the way we're actually laughing i just didn't know you i guess you were broke and you couldn't afford the calvin clients i couldn't that's why i had to put on the rider yeah can i have the cow i really could use the cow you'll be all right um haynes they got they got you um i think i think before like when everything was new it would be a lot more that that up and down as you said it's like oh this is the fucking the first time i'll give you an example so when when mood like blew up or whatever i bought a range rover and as soon as i drove home and got it i like stepped out inside on the curb and looked at it and i felt like that was one of the saddest moments that i've ever felt because i feel like like when you play a
Starting point is 00:17:44 video game and you finish it right and like yeah you can like go around and do other stuff but like i got what i was looking for oh yeah now there's something missing right it's like necessary it's the necessary thing about progress is that there because if there's no end state it just feels like you're in a whirlpool i got if there's an end state it's like i'm you're in a whirlpool. I got something. And if there's an end state, it's like, I'm almost, I almost got a hundred percent. Oh, I got a hundred percent. It's like, it's like you have, you're building this puzzle your whole life and you feel like you're missing one piece and then you find the piece and you go home to put it into the
Starting point is 00:18:17 puzzle and it doesn't fit. And you're like, I thought this was, I thought this was the thing. And then somebody is like, Hey, I got the puzzle by the way. And then pulls out a bigger puzzle that that piece matches. But I did the puzzle. Yeah. I'm all done. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I thought that getting to this point would make me feel happy. Right. And not feeling happy when you get to that point, it makes you even sadder than you were trying to get me. Just because we set the wrong expectations. It's like money doesn't make you happy. Relationship doesn't make you happy. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Well, in the same way that penicillin doesn't make you healthy. It just makes you not sick. Yeah. And it's like you've got to, within reason, because it's always like there is a certain point where if you're struggling, you're struggling. And there's no, I don't ever want to tell somebody. The like you know put a smile on you know it doesn't matter if you know things are bad but nobody wants to be sad it's not fun after a certain point it is like all right this is all in my own head i'm like battling my own demons and figuring figuring out how to like navigate through life or or even like you know something that's interesting
Starting point is 00:19:26 that i'm sure i'm not sure you've experienced this but something i experienced was you go through school and then okay you're supposed to go to college and you go to college and then you're supposed to get a job then you get a job and then you're supposed to do good at that job and you can like kind of keep doing that and climb the corporate ladder or whatever. Start a podcast. You got your Calvins. The second I left, you know, my traditional job and started doing creative stuff full time
Starting point is 00:19:56 where there's no direction and there's no like right answers and there's no like obvious next step. There's no goalposts really. Yeah, it's like, it's hard to ground yourself. Cause you're you're making your own definition of success exactly but most of the times we're basing that off of somebody else's exactly yeah yeah yeah and like including a younger version of yourself and what the fuck do they know yeah what the fuck do they know they're 11 years old they still fucking play with legos i don't know whatever literally me being like what if I had a podcast I mean a lot no viewers required no listeners but what if it went out what if I had more I'm 11 what if I had more
Starting point is 00:20:33 Pokemon cards I think that would be the height of luxury I wasn't wrong about that yeah that was kind of on point that was a banger that's me with my hands yeah yeah but you know most things most things it is like you just don't know and then you're 18 or 17 18 making decisions for your future the rest of your life the rest of your life yeah do you have a like self-awarely hey i know this isn't the final final fix but it is something you are shooting for. Like there is a thing in the future that you do. I mean, at the, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:21:07 I think it's like family and like having like kids and a wife and like something to keep it going. Yeah. Keep going forward. But, but at the same time, it's like, hell yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:24 I want to be in fucking movies and yeah yeah i want to have more hit songs and like this and that but you can't really put a timeline on those things so true and you can't really like what i've learned is you can't expect to find the happiness at the end of that metaphorical rainbow like right you have to enjoy the journey getting there you have i think that once you can enjoy the journey that you've cracked it like because the pursuit of those things if you can enjoy that then you will always have things to pursue and you can always find satisfaction in that yeah uh and i think that's a beautiful thing because i think you know being able to pursue something in life is a beautiful gift uh but not everyone you know has like my you know, being able to pursue something in life is a beautiful gift that not everyone, you know, has like my, you know, growing up, my mom had to sort of bust her ass to make
Starting point is 00:22:11 sure I had a good life and that I could even like do the fact that I can choose my own path now is such a privilege granted to me by like the hard work, you know, in a situation that like my you know mom put me in that we really had no choice exactly that was just that was where we spawned that was where we were exactly yeah and it's like relative right because now i don't my you know my mom's crazy productive wild like uh i remember times she was there's one time where she just asked me like she was like tired and she was like is this am i depressed she asked because she never felt like that before like it just was like kind of new yeah and i was like i don't i mean do you feel kind of numb or
Starting point is 00:22:56 worn out like no i just want to like kind of relax oh you're just tired from doing so much for your body your body is shutting down yeah i remember like she uh she got dementia later on and she it it was eerie to me still to this day that she just was muscling through it like a certain psychology that i think part of me is like wow i don't think i can access that but at the same time that's her dream that none of us would have to access that level of like right she took that burden on so you exactly yeah and that ceiling on what she could achieve was limited by our circumstances and she kind of put me on that ceiling club yeah it's like she put you on her shoulder so you could reach the higher heights
Starting point is 00:23:45 yeah it wasn't like a position of wealth but i had the confidence to do stuff even in just the things that she would tell you you know like building confidence and like a child and like i think that that was huge for me was just like my mom passed when i was 12, but there was so much confidence that she built in me just by being such a believer in me, a believer, so to speak. It was pre Bieber. So it was weird that she said, yeah, we never figured that one out, but no, like I, I think that that's something that like I can carry with me to try to pull myself through. Because, you know, it's like I have lots of self-doubts and stuff. But then once that passes, I can, like, be like, no, no, no. I'm the guy.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I can do it. Because you have her voice in the back of your head saying that. And not everybody gets that from the parental figure. Right, exactly, yeah. Do you have a big family, small family? Like, very small, immediate family. Like, just me, dad, sister, mom. And then, like, I have, like just me dad sister mom um and then like i have like a lot of cousins and stuff but not super close to them are you uh where are you in the
Starting point is 00:24:53 sibling hierarchy i'm the oldest okay who's the strongest also me but my sister was like the second best weightlifter olympic weightlifter for her age when she was like 12 or something like that so she could probably still get it in there what are you talking about that's insane yeah
Starting point is 00:25:10 I didn't know they let children lift weights like that they do they didn't until she lifted something really heavy and they're like
Starting point is 00:25:17 we gotta put you somewhere we gotta organize around this yeah we gotta build a new sport that shit is if my kid if I just have a naturally super athletic kid,
Starting point is 00:25:25 I'm going to be pissed off. I'm going to be like, this isn't fair. If this was in the jeans, why don't I get to- Why didn't I get it? Why don't I get to be a professional polo player? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Fucking looking like the- Did you play any sports growing up? Nah. I was- So my dad, like he played college ball, high school ball. And like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I could tell like he was definitely wanting me to like do that too. But I was uncoordinated as fuck school ball. And, like, I could tell, like, he was definitely wanting me to, like, do that, too. But I was uncoordinated as fuck. Right. And, like, pretty late to hit puberty until. So it wasn't happening for me. How tall are you now? I'm, like, 6'1", now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Okay. Yeah. 6'6". You're 6'6"? Yeah, yeah. Thank you, motherfucker. I'm, like, 6'1". Shorter hair, though.
Starting point is 00:26:03 So, you know, you tower over me. Yeah, you're actually 5'2 the hair gives a lot hair is looking sick how many years we got working on that I was I cut my hair when I was like 16 and I went to go like get a trim
Starting point is 00:26:19 or like a line up whatever and they fucked my shit up so I was like just cut it all off and then I went home and i looked in the mirror i'm trying to imagine that and i i looked like an organic egg i just remember staring in the mirror and telling myself like yo i'm never cutting this shit again right this is probably like six or seven years of growth that's uh which rooms i yeah i was gonna say like you gotta keep it healthy or whatever but
Starting point is 00:26:45 i always had a buzz cut my whole life and then only recently was i starting to grow my hair out and now i'm trying to figure it out i'm trying to navigate the like curly hair life um and we're figuring it out it's empowering i think it is i i agree it makes you feel like a lion that makes me feel like we can put it on the screen my fro circa covid is insane it was never getting that big again i can't it became like a light it's a lifestyle issue there was like i had to start like you know protecting it like wearing a bonnet and like yeah hair oh yeah i've got silk pillowcases. I was like, skin fade my whole life. And then I'm like, oh, this is like thinking.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I start not knowing what to do with my hair. And then I would like put beanies on. But it was just like this. We're just like, I didn't know what was going on. Yeah. But we're figuring it out. I'll give you a cheat code. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's a shit called, it's like feel wavy or get wavy. My friend made like a, like a little like texturizer thing. And that's why this whole like front part looks like cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like yours too. Yeah. But that took some time. I had to go to like a specialist who was like a curly, Oh man,
Starting point is 00:27:58 curly hair. There's a whole market. And it's like primarily like, there are not a lot of male clients coming through these places but i i go and i'm like please teach me yeah and then i have to go to like a separate barber to like line me up and like shave it up and stuff it's a whole process but i'm gonna let's say something nice about me anything jacob i like your glasses it's like a harry potter something that's like not really okay yeah i mean it's like what harry potter something i can immediately not have something that's like
Starting point is 00:28:26 not really okay yeah i mean it's like what about my friend's t-shirt oh that's nice well also you could immediately not have speaking speaking of ball do you follow sports at all i fuck with like basketball but i don't really like follow it until we get to the playoffs yeah we're in the playoffs now yeah uh i've been i've been following yesterday was like the first time in i used to play like on the street like like growing up play on the street like somebody had some shitty hoop that you would fill with water so that it wouldn't tip over or whatever and i can't dunk on it because we're children. But he could. Yeah, you could.
Starting point is 00:29:09 As an adult playing. Dunking on the children. Breaking ankles. And then I like played a little bit in high school, played a little tiny, tiny bit in college. Actually, no, that's a lie. Played a little bit in high school. And then after college played a little bit in like a work league. Like when we were at Patreon, we used to work at Patreon. Oh, you used to work at Patreon? Yeah, yeah, that's a lie. I played a little bit in high school and then after college played a little bit in like a work league.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Like when we were at Patreon. Oh, really? We used to work at Patreon. Oh, you used to work at Patreon? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They might think we still do. You know what I mean? You still getting the checks? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Oh, no way. Free health insurance. But I went yesterday to a court. I bought a basketball and I was like, let's see if we still got it. And you know what it wasn't as bad as i thought it was going to be really i was nervous i can't grab the rim anymore so i need to get fit um that's my new my new goal again is to be able to dunk because people people haven't seen that side of me like i need to shed i need to shed some weight but i can
Starting point is 00:30:01 get up there you're pretty tall too. Yeah. No, it can. And that's, if I was any shorter, I would not be able to get up there. But you got hops. I want to get back to it. I do got hops because of the black athlete gene that we all genetically have. That secret bone is for like. Choke, everybody. It's for jumping and crimes.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. And for playing tekken the things that black people do why are all the black people good at tekken it's made for uh it's built for gamecube yeah no um i want to get back to it but it is embarrassing to not be good at basketball as an adult as an adult like if i i i can't play pickup and look somebody in the eye i'm not good enough for that right now i need to go into like a training montage i need to like privately go to a gym i need a sensei i need to do that shit goku did when he was like thinking through like basketball plays three thinking through pick and rolls in his head oh i mean it's really hard to be
Starting point is 00:31:02 like good at basketball it is it's like really hard but then now i think the thing is especially in la there's a lot of people who don't make it to a higher level yeah and then they're like well while i didn't make it to the higher level basketball i can now destroy every layman 24 hour fitness i will run that place like the king i am I'm king James of the fucking planet fitness sometimes you just
Starting point is 00:31:28 gotta let it go man no that's real is there a part of you that like even though it sounds like you're pretty confident like I'm not coordinated
Starting point is 00:31:34 this isn't for me but a part of you that's like my dad would really like it if I was good at that nah cause he fucked with me anyway so we good that's good
Starting point is 00:31:41 no that's good that would suck he just doesn't love you because of that cause I wasn't coordinated like it's your fault you birthed me he puts like an obstacle course like around your room it's like oh you want to get out of your room jump over this hoop he's at the end he's at the end for the first turn you know one of those like the ninja kids or whatever there's like little kids on youtube that oh yeah around to do stunts they're like they recreate like shot for shot episodes
Starting point is 00:32:05 of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. That's fire. It was, we went to VidCon last year. We were at an Airbnb and we turned on the TV, turned on the YouTube app and someone else was logged in. And they were, must've been watching with their kids because it was just all of this like kids content. And some of it was the Ninja Kids.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And it cut to a bunch this like kids content and some of it was the ninja kids and it cut to a bunch of like near 30 year old men watching watching children's youtube like trying to understand what we were even looking at walks in yeah yeah he's like i need to have a talk danny and his adult danny and his adult pregnant wife sat there watching this like this is fun they needed to practice for having a kid they just had my kid i would love to teach my kid martial arts and not to read just the ultimate fighter yeah i want an mma only i think more people aren't like specking their kids outright yeah min maxing thank you yeah not everybody needs to know how to do chemistry
Starting point is 00:33:02 or like weapons dude decks only yeah span like people putting their kids in that so they can Not everybody needs to know how to do chemistry. Finesse weapons, dude. Decks only. Yeah. Span. Like people putting their kids in so they can be bilingual. Yeah. Just teach them karate. I don't know. Like teach them something else.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Teach them backflips. Or one crazy kick. Like nothing else. They perfect a single. That's how I feel playing basketball. Cause I can do a lot of stuff on my left side, on the left side. Cause I'm left handed. Yeah. But I can't do a lot on my right and so um you should fix that
Starting point is 00:33:29 if you were like guarding me you would just know he always goes to his left and it would be correct i would shove you i would just shove you i would simply shove you i need i wish if i could go back and be more ambidextrous i would yeah you could train your kids for that too yeah you can because they used to like they used to just make people be right-handed yeah and I don't want that but um a lot of basketball players like Kyrie Irving or whatever is naturally left-handed but then trained with his right hand also just because you're doing like classes and things where everybody's doing things in unison and so you want to you don't want to be the odd one out reversing everything so then he's just really good with both hands so every time he does like a left-handed finish thing it's like a
Starting point is 00:34:12 giant highlight but i'm like well he's also left-handed so he's got like a superpower yeah is there still with any kind of artistic output especially the kind where you're dropping it just for people like just it's out there i hope you like this one you like the last one don't be mean please i don't feel i'm the same guy you know exactly is it do you get that drop afterwards they're like oh i put that thing out or are you anxious about it or is it more like i did what i did onto the next one i think my definition like the why changed for me because for a long time it was like I have this chip on my shoulder. I have something to prove that I can be what I told everyone I was going to be since I was 15. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And once you kind of like, once I kind of crossed that threshold, there was that weird period, murky period of like, how do I keep this up? How do I make sure everything i do is at this high level yeah at least commercially and like right whatever yeah commercial wise but then within the last year so i kind of shifted to being like well the purpose that of the reason why i'm putting this music out isn't to sell 100 million records. It's because this is what I actually think and feel and, like, want to put into the world. Right. And want people to take with them as they go on to their days.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Yeah, yeah. So that impact is much more important to me than how wide it goes. And you've already had an audience, like, validate the way you do it works. Yeah. Right? Like, if just they never like it yeah it's like i guess i'm better music and i think that like it's easy to kind of get high on that success but then there's an industry that i mean this is my perception so you can tell me if this is right
Starting point is 00:36:00 but it feels like it it's a little bit in our world too where it's like you're only as good as your last thing you know where it's like oh okay well if i'm not like everybody who's like nice to me now may not be around when things aren't hitting the same yeah when the numbers aren't aren't there so i need to make sure i have the right group of people around me and i need to make sure yeah you're doing it for the right reason because that's the stuff that will be constant throughout everything yeah i think that's i think that's just a fact of life like when you're doing good people are going to want to be around you and want to bask in that proximity and what you said is so important of just like making sure that the right people are around you because when you're down bad or not even down bad but just not as up as you were before right if there's if
Starting point is 00:36:51 you have no one around you and you're dealing that change at the same time it's not a good combination it's crazy when i'll like look at actors who maybe haven't had a lead role in a couple of years and then people are like whatever happened to this person or and i'm like they're set for life they're chilling they might not like acting that much anymore yeah yeah some some actors like um was it like harold ramus yeah rick moranis just rick moranis no rick moranis was uh from ghostbusters like decided to focus on his family. Didn't he have like a his wife died? His wife passed away and then he was just like I'm set. I'm
Starting point is 00:37:30 going you know. He just became world's best dad. He's like okay. He's got a honey on the kids bag. He's got a Ghostbusters bag. And it's like huge bags. Right. And so he's fine. Well they're trunk. Tiny bag. Tiny bag. That's what I tell my financial advisor
Starting point is 00:37:46 when I buy Pokemon cards you don't understand it's an investment what's the little line next to my checking why is there like a little minus line what's that about
Starting point is 00:37:56 make it green I have the shiny card it would be I'll be honest with you if I shrunk my kids down to kind of like
Starting point is 00:38:03 the size where they could be consumed by a bug I don't think I would play it would be, I gotta be honest with you, if I shrunk my kids down to kind of like the size where they could be consumed by a bug, I don't think I would play it as casually as, honey, you're not going to. You might want to be sitting down for this. Do you want coffee first? How was your day? And also, guess what?
Starting point is 00:38:19 I love this conversation that we're having, but I do want to ask you, Jordan, about this driver on your street. Oh, the driving bastard of my street. Uh-huh. Okay. I kind of, it felt weird at the time to do it, but it turns out the guy was fine.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So maybe it would have been really cool to take a photo. Oh, I thought you would like hit a guy or something. No, come on. Turned out he was fine. I mean, I hit him. Walked away. I'm like hit a guy or something. No, come on. Turned out he was fine. I mean, I hit him. Walked away. I'm like, get better at driving. There was this guy who, it was right as I was stepping out,
Starting point is 00:38:50 you've been to my place, there's like a little terrace fence for the apartment complex. And it's kind of a steep slope as you walk down. The exact moment where I could just peek over the fence. There is a, it's a two-way street but pretty narrow right yeah there is a it's like an active street it's like a main tree yeah it comes up from kind of like a more active commercial area gets a little quieter more suburban area and then the uh there's this like partition of uh with you know media cutie little yeah medium with a cute little bit of grass and a couple mini trees on it yeah this car bastard just flies through the middle of it like wait through the
Starting point is 00:39:31 middle of the median the middle of the median yeah just bolts onto it sparks fly uh like bumper comes off just smashing the two of the trees and it was i had this like uh this this moment with my uber driver or the uber eats driver because it was it almost hit like this moment with my Uber driver or the Uber Eats driver because it was it almost hit him like you came out to get the food
Starting point is 00:39:49 and you saw this and I could see Andrew shout outs funnily enough last time I ordered got the same guy we had a nice chat
Starting point is 00:39:57 you guys are like best friends we had a really nice back and forth like January because he was like what happened with the driver
Starting point is 00:40:02 let me tell you about my best friend and it's a super cut of him handing you a bag and you like eating your food and going but it's just the two times but the shot again slow motion me eating the food by myself podcast on the way
Starting point is 00:40:17 he is I mean this guy just plows through the center it's a whole shebang I think he seemed fine. We called 911. A bunch of people came out. Nobody seemed all that stressed about it. He was fine.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Sort of walk around, attract the tree out of the center of the road because people were just passing onto the other side of the median, which is sick because that's like, look, a guy can crash, not me. Yeah. Not my ass. I can't die. I'm better. I'm the main character but uh i gotta say i think me
Starting point is 00:40:48 and andrew are now at a difficult point okay where one more time and we we are petrus is just a guy i know yeah i mean and now this is a guy i know i give him a like really big tip on this last one because i'm like well when we see it's like buying drinks for the friend that you're like hanging out with for maybe the first time. Like, hey, Andy, what's going on? Oh, same. Yeah. Nice. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 How's the wife? How's it going? He's like, I'm recently divorced. Oh. How's the food? I don't eat it. I just deliver it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Well, that actually is a lot of stomach. I took a couple of bites of your fries, though. Yeah. It's all you. Since you're like so cool and all I thought I got lodged I saw a dude I saw a tweet of
Starting point is 00:41:31 it was like the a delivery driver had his AC on pointed at the fries because the guy didn't tip and I was like this is some crazy hater energy but I mean, hey. That's not going to make him tip next time either.
Starting point is 00:41:47 No, but I get it too. Because those drivers are not, that whole business is, it's fake. It's like not a real business that makes money for anybody. It's just like propped up on VC money and vibes. And I think at some point we're going to have to come with a reckoning that our convenience is a lot more expensive than it is. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I mean, every single time there's some change to that system, it's at the cost of the drivers. Exactly. And they also like, I don't know. Driving and having a lot of stamina and patience for that is a transferable skill. You can do a lot with that.
Starting point is 00:42:24 But it's not like... Get a CDL. Uber Eats isn't going to give you a reference and you can't call a manager. Uber Eats doesn't make money. DoorDash I don't think makes money. And so something's got to give at some point. But it's one of those things that Uber itself did back when they first started their business where the name of the game is just lose money but gain market share growth over everything and then once you've
Starting point is 00:42:53 changed kind of people's habits and stuff then you can start to hike up the prices and all that shit so well i think what the what their plan is what wasn't weren't they saying i think it was like elon or something about like robo yeah things yeah that's the other thing too because as as self-driving cars and all that stuff gets more robust and accepted then you can just remove the middleman and so that's the other reason that like delivery drivers are treated like shit is because they're just a cog in the machine that they probably want to replace with a robot. Yeah. You know those little ones that like...
Starting point is 00:43:27 Oh, yeah. They go around the street. Like boxes with their names and shit. I think I got it. I'm Greg. You're not. I think I like... I'm not a particularly good person,
Starting point is 00:43:34 but I think I have like kind of, you know, like a base soul. I'll kick it so bad. Default soul. I want to kick that funny. I want to boot it. I want to put it straight into the center of the street and I want it to go like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 oh, no. There is a funny... I can't dive it. I want to put it straight into the center of the street and I want it to go like, Oh no, I can't dive it. I can feel pain. There's a people who troll the, um, some of the self-driving cars, the ones that use LIDAR, especially by,
Starting point is 00:43:58 um, wearing stop shine, stop sign t-shirts and just like standing at the side of the street and the car slows to a stop just to like fuck with him um that is such a specific mission it's so funny to protest nothing yeah i mean it's a problem that yeah i i it's tough i mean it kind of just comes comes with all of the like AI takeover of everything. And I'm, I'm more in the, I'm always in favor of like technology tools to augment a human's capabilities and not to like replace a human. But is that something that like
Starting point is 00:44:40 comes up in your work where AI I'm sure is becoming more and more a part of the music industry. And I'm sure like movers and shakers and labels are using algorithms to try and figure out what the next trend is going to be and shit like that. Like we're going to have a library of beats made in an afternoon. And that's the, you know, that's the first thing I want. Then maybe they're like performers.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. Cause it's kind of hard to like, like they've tried doing like virtual avatars that make music oh like there was a one fn mecca and he said nigga and like a white like man made him guess guess guess who has a history with fn mecca you i kind of broke a little bit of the fn mecca story really because i pretended to be their friend and started dming with them and then uh i can't even remember how it turned out but i made a bunch of videos about it basically just like trying to get them to reveal that the um kyle the hooligan is the original rapper who rapped on the effing mecca songs and he's like a black man he uh and i interviewed him and he talked about how these vc guys were um promising him equity in this project this f and
Starting point is 00:45:56 mecca project then they create this image of this like black man it's like it looks like a fucking memoji or whatever but still you know and then uh they did all types of ridiculous brand collabs and um they did uh crazy instagram posts where like fm echo was in jail yeah and like breaking out of jail it was crazy wow and oh yeah that one show was climbing over a fence all the while it's just like all of the black people have been removed from this they like stopped talking to kyle the hooligan they like didn't cut him in on any of the stuff that they said they would and it's just like another story of like these exploitation exploitation CEOs being like how can we get the thing that works but also we don't share a water fountain or something yeah yeah scares me
Starting point is 00:46:42 yeah i shook his hand and I checked my wallet. There's like a level of authenticity that you can't take out, especially hip hop. It's like just, I mean, there's genuinely talented people that struggle to get a grip
Starting point is 00:46:54 in that scene because they feel inauthentic. Like, I mean, that's what Eminem thought for like 20 years to even make some ground. It's such a funny idea. Kendrick said Drake can't use the N-word anymore. Dude, that's the M&M for like 20 years to even make some ground. It's such a funny idea.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Kendrick said Drake can't use the N-word anymore. Dude, that's huge. They're in court, right? Did you listen to the – have you been following the beef? Yeah, the song yesterday was crazy. It was crazy. All 45 minutes of it. Yeah, crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:19 There's so much to it, though. I feel like I'm still – I'll see a tweet and I'll be like, damn, I didn't even catch that. It's like when'm still i'll see a tweet and i'll be like damn i didn't even catch that it's like when i watch like somebody doing like a lyric breakdown it feels like watching um somebody talk about like art history something i know nothing like i don't know i'm like catching up on the obvious like i can hear the obvious stuff right and like some of the allegations oh like references that are really obvious and like, which is fine. There should be, there should be clear stuff. And then I just, it didn't even click for me at all that he's, he switches into doing Drake.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh yeah, where he does the Canadian like accent or the Toronto accent. I thought he was just doing like the, is it on a, it's on like I, where he goes like, like his crying voice. I thought it was just that. I didn't even notice. And I, I'm a bit i well okay i'm not a fan of anti-semite kanye but like growing up i was a big kanye fan and so like the how kendrick interpolated the like get him high but we don't want to hit a weak shit no more
Starting point is 00:48:16 you know uh from get him high where he goes we don't want to hear you see no more i'm not going to say the n-word because out of respect for Kendrick, he said I shouldn't. Yeah, he looked a lot of people. Yeah, it's like we're down right now. I have a black mom for the record, so I know there's a lot of discourse about that. Not as good. No, way better. No, they don't have the same powers.
Starting point is 00:48:40 What do you mean? Black dad thing. They don't have the same superpowers? No, I had to have a white mom great no i i have i have i have black dad is superior i have black mom and then don't know dad so okay so who's that guy don't know him did a dna test turns out i'm 100 a fan of lizzo do you know when uh jeff bezos tweeted that no it was the corniest tweet in the world where it was like Jeff Bezos with Twitto. What am I saying? Jeff Bezos with Lizzo saying, just took a DNA test.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Turns out I'm 100% a fan of Lizzo. I love that because that's like, there's one of two scenarios. One intern thought of it and it was fine to get through. Or Jeff Bezos sincerely was like, how do you got a joke? This one's about to hit. It's like a banger tweet ready. This is funny. And then just uploads it.
Starting point is 00:49:30 People make fun of him. They're like, doesn't compute with me. Time to exploit a diamond mine. We should- Blow up Kuala Lumpur. We should talk about it. So the original name of this podcast
Starting point is 00:49:44 was Talking White. Talking White. Because that was the thing where like, We should talk about it. Cause, uh, so the original name of this podcast was talking white, talking white, because that was the thing where like, I grew up only around black people, but I always sounded like this. And I was like, I don't know where I think just TV. I don't know. Like, and, um, and then like Jordan had his version of that where he like grew up, like, uh, kind of being like the token and stuff uh what was your like upbringing like sort of being you're biracial yeah what was what was your upbringing like it was interesting because everybody thinks of California, San Francisco, especially as like, oh, it's so diverse and it's such a melting pot.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Right. And it is, but it's not at the same time. And for me, my life has always been like very juxtapositional, like black Catholic father, white Jewish mother. The neighborhood I grew up in was like, it was a lot of like black people there. Right. But the schools that I went to were mostly Asian. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So it was always kind of like having one foot in one world and one foot in the other. Yeah. So you learn to like navigate all different types of. Yeah. It's like a form of code. Well, code switching.
Starting point is 00:51:01 But it's not always like verbal code switching. Sometimes it's just like cadence, tone. Yeah. Slang, whatever. Like, yeah. code switching yeah but it's not always like verbal code switching sometimes it's just like cadence tone yeah slang whatever like yeah it's just like the speed at which you talk even like there's just so much um it's subconscious too like i'll catch myself doing it be like oh i didn't even know i was doing that oh oh yeah my friend from the uk that was just in town for like even three days yeah because sometimes i think people want to have an insight about voices. I think it's just like a desire people have. And like, if you have any kind of accent, people are like, oh, that's so funny. You sound like, yeah, I guess you've been here for a long time.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm like, no, I just always sounded like this. Terminology has changed a little bit because I just don't want to have conversations. I don't want to get in an Uber and be like, well, yeah, my mum. And you're like, mum? I'm like, I don't want to do this. Uber and be like, well, yeah, my mum. And they're like, mum? I'm like, I don't want to do this. I'm just like, oh, fine. But there's no, I mean, yeah, my friend Ben came to town and he didn't notice I spoke any differently,
Starting point is 00:51:55 but my pace is different. I'm a little bit more deliberate now. I muttered more because people, like where I'm from, I'm from a country town you know yeah we're probably like the Ohio V so it's a lot of just like you know he's giving down pub go-go after understand and it's yeah I was right in the middle because my mom hated yeah she did not like me rolling my honors or anything like that or at the same time I didn't like I was i was code switching heavy to between like country and
Starting point is 00:52:27 like city and it's like i just i was never in like london but if people ask from say london right and i think i think maybe the code switching is part just to save those conversations it's like especially if you look different right if you're at your school which is mostly asian yeah you're already probably fighting against assumptions to some degree and just being like don't worry all the parts you like i got yeah i'm just like you let's hang out it won't be weird yeah when you was it catholic household how did you not so it was two my mom was jewish my dad's catholic so we did both oh cool like i'll go to Ash Wednesday but then also like do Hanukkah and yeah Christmas a lot of gifts well yeah the thought was there what's uh how'd they meet so my mom my mom's cousin submitted her secretly for a modeling contest she came in like as a
Starting point is 00:53:20 finalist flew her to LA she won second place and she stayed here and got a modeling contract where from from the from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania okay cool my dad he grew up in San Francisco in Hawaii um and after college he like got like scouted on the street and they started modeling that way so my dad comes back to LA to visit for like a couple days before he goes to Tokyo to go do some work out there. And he goes to my mom's restaurant because he's friends with the chef. And my mom says that when he walked in, she like ducked behind the counter because he was so handsome. And the chef introduced him.
Starting point is 00:53:59 She was his waitress. She was still tucked behind the counter. She was crouching. Nice to meet you. If you like tap being she dolphin died they went out dancing um hit it off my dad left for tokyo and they were like pen pals which i guess was the dms of right the olden days yeah for sure just a with like a quill
Starting point is 00:54:26 and it just said what's up like a pidgeon ywd asl right yeah um and then he sent her a ticket to come to japan with him and they just like traveled the world and like fell in love that's really cool damn that's a that's a great i want to make that into a movie that's a movie for sure um it's called my cool parent my parents are cool when a golden joint when you were at big money g when you were in school you said it was mostly asian kids did you ever get the like can i touch your hair that type of thing but i didn't know that was like fucked up for people to ask. Yeah. Because like I had always been in schools where there wasn't a lot of black people. So I was just like, oh, they just think my hair is cool. And then I'm like getting older.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm like, actually, maybe I don't want people to touch my hair. Right, right. No, yeah. Now it's like, yo, like if you just come up at me touching my hair, like I'm going to say something that makes you feel dumb as fuck. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, like, I think maybe, yeah, like, mostly white people in my case as well.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Like, my mom knew it was bad. She got it because she, I don't know, like, she's just a smart bitch. What can I say? And she, like, she just intuitively knew, like, there's not a smart bitch what can i say and she like she just intuitively knew like there's not a complimentary air quotes or at least like appealing racism it's like as uh destructive the term microaggression i feel like is maybe over applied or at least like sure it's very discoursey yeah i don't like twitter terms yeah but it it wears at you in a way you don't recognize it's
Starting point is 00:56:08 not a tsunami it's like erosion you know it's like people feel wrong here i feel like i'm not a part of it and it's because other people aren't like don't have people like oh it's a sheep like yeah like an animal at the zoo or something that is a crazy thing to do people even to this day sometimes like when we'll talk about this stuff like we were talking about uh if you ever heard about black white uh oh the ice cube show yes yo that was my shit that was a fucking crazy it is the best show i ever made so we we did a whole series like reacting to it and uh in that there's there's like a scene it's our opus we're like somebody like somebody's like complimenting someone's hair and like we took it a certain way and then people were like oh they were just giving
Starting point is 00:56:49 a compliment why are you being so weird about it and i'm like well you just don't you're in this show there's a show about you how about if you don't know what we're talking about then you just take our word for it right yeah because i didn't have that until middle school which was like the first time i was around white people. And even still, it wasn't like entirely white people. It was like fairly diverse, but it was like, there was enough. So it was just like somebody behind me in math class.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And it was, oh, it feels like a sheep. And I was like, I don't like this. What is this? What's going on? Can we cut it with the sheep stuff? It's not even the same texture. You have not touched a sheep, was like, I don't like this. Yeah. What is this? What's going on? Can we cut it with the sheep stuff? It's not even the same texture. I love you have not touched a sheep, all right? I don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Also, I'm from the countryside. I know what a fucking sheep feels like, all right? I've put enough conditioner in to make sure that's not the case. Yeah. I don't think I've touched a sheep ever. Go ahead. Oh, sheep-like. And also, don't touch sheep.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah. Leave it for you. Oh, my God. Don't touch a sheep. Don't touch sheep. Yeah. Leave it for you. Don't touch a sheep. We went to the Renaissance Fair like the last week. Two weeks ago? Oh, 5,000 years ago. They had a petting zoo, and it was the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. I didn't pet a single animal all the animals were
Starting point is 00:58:06 facing away from the people they like clearly didn't want to be touched yeah and i was like i i had no opinion about petting zoos because i'd never been to one before and i left that experience anti-petting zoo i was like this seems awful for these animals my dream is to do one of those have you ever done one of those interviews with puppies nah that sounds sick i know i i oh like we had joseph gordon levitt like hang out with 15 puppies and like answer questions and then he's just like swimming in puppies that are like pissing and shitting everywhere but it's adorable and then he's just like answering questions i'm like that's my hot ones i want that see i'm i'm allergic to dogs so that would go way different for me. I just be sneezing. Yeah, I love animals. What's that, hot ones?
Starting point is 00:58:48 I do love animals. Yeah, like hot ones, yeah. Sick ones. Sick ones. Help! We made 10 different creators eat peanut butter. Five of them are allergic. Guess which one?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, that's one of those. The one he made, like, wheeled out. Yeah. Can you guess the fake one? And everyone's of those you want one of those like Julie wheeled out yeah can you guess the fake one and everyone's acting normally except for one person like looking for an epiphanies face
Starting point is 00:59:11 yo people don't take that seriously enough because we had a friend of ours on this show and we got pastries from the same place
Starting point is 00:59:20 yeah but he's allergic he's deathly allergic to nuts or peanuts and so we had to make sure that there were no peanuts in the the pastries or in the process or anything and it was like really hard to get in contact with the bakery i feel like that should be a thing that should just be on your website no peanuts well that's why i'm i'm not friends with anybody that has
Starting point is 00:59:39 peanut allergies oh yeah it's too much maintenance yeah you love peanuts yeah you don't want to like introduce them to friends because they might procreate and then pass it on to another diminutive genie one time we had a party we had a Halloween party where now most of the good Halloween candy has peanuts involved somewhere
Starting point is 00:59:57 and he was coming to the party and so we got rid of all of the peanut candy then he didn't come to the party I was like ethan it's ethan we called him out on the show i think we already said it okay you gotta read this tweet okay from brendan see you see you never oh i genuinely thought it was vr yeah i thought it would be it could be that yeah see you hell. My favorite thing about being covered in tattoos
Starting point is 01:00:26 and having my hands and knuckles blasted is the sheer beta energy you can feel coming off men when you stand next to them and the dark allure of mystery in a woman's eye. When she looks at you mixed with that energetic connection of depth and curiosity most most losers on this app wouldn't know too busy flashing watches oh right too busy flashing watches trying to pretend they are deep souls most people covered in tattoos have been through hell and back they recognize it in one another most not all
Starting point is 01:01:07 uh asterisks so first does this resonate with you do you feel like when you sit next to a non-tattooed person like myself do you feel the sheer beta energy coming off of me oh dude i you know when i see somebody when i see somebody covered in expensive tattoos my first thing is like wow this guy struggled yeah this guy's been through hell and back, and that's why he has mom tattooed on his wrist. So look at this ratio. It's very beautiful. 200 replies, 200 likes, 300,000 views.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Jesus Christ. This is a lesson on viral marketing. User A says a polarizing statement. User B says polarizing statement in opposite direction algorithm in disbelief equals post go viral that's so fun approaching 500k views in 12 hours and increasing views with no i think it's like mentions full of nerds yeah that's actually pretty cool this is like anybody anybody getting cooked like when i'm getting like lit up on twitter i just go this is a lesson in viral marketing right like like when you're a when
Starting point is 01:02:11 you're a kid and someone like makes fun of you for like a hat you were just trying out you're like i was kidding joking it's the uh what i was being this was a lesson it's that meme of like my taste of nerds it's uh ivan musk slams his dick in a car door. Masterful gambit. Touché. Dude, that rocks. This guy's very cool. Can we see if he maybe in the last hour or two
Starting point is 01:02:36 has hit us with another bangus epic bacon? Very epic swag. In front of the Bush Khalifa. Yeah, I was going to say. Almost as tall as never never trust someone with fake teeth a masked smile this is like a 14 year old like i'm 14 and this is deep so oh what is it uh wait he didn't ama ask me anything this is me in the video uh oh sat there in the video what that doesn't look like his picture at all what i think he's just like a bait like a like yeah action bait in the corner i think it no
Starting point is 01:03:09 i think he's a master baiter so to speak oh yeah yeah oh that's little brendan that's to scale too he's as close to the camera as the other guys so this reminds me so like just these guys let's just double triple check if this guy is for real. Scroll. Yeah. I mean, it looks pretty. Some of these are like just vanilla. Like not.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah. Wait, what is this? Life is such a mystical experience. Only, wait. Sometimes things happen. Sometimes I wish I never studied Nietzsche. If you know, you know. This guy rocks. This is like-
Starting point is 01:03:49 A lot of mental brokies will try and steal your energy like little rats. This is your education. This is your USC education. Oh, yeah. You guys, you've seen rats, right? They're always stealing your success. This guy really wants to like do the thing where I'm like, I'm different unless you're like me.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah, this guy emails like a parent. It's everything like he says feels like it's a Sigma mail post, you know, where it's like the Sigma walks alone and they're not worried about the acts of other wolves. Those ones that are mistranslated. So it's like Sigma mail won't be onto the now unless it's with me what sorry what's this fucking say girls really want to be now always forever i am an artist i find good shit i steal shit i make shit better i scale it all right what about the stealing stuff
Starting point is 01:04:41 oh his energy goes up and downate leads feel like fishing in a lake instead of the ocean. It's like one of three places. I'm not in his community enough to get, but I guess not a lot of people got it either. This is 2,000 impressions for five likes. Yeah, but there's no- This guy's definitely paying for impressions too. My mentions actually, i got some so like uh you know posted a
Starting point is 01:05:07 video um tripped over had diarrhea poopooed all over myself myself big uh grand piano fell on me and then my pants fell down everyone saw me tiny dick nerds in my mentions dude making fun of me dude oh this is an example of viral marketing person a has tiny dick exposes um okay wait so this this type of thinking though it always makes me think of the like uh vc entrepreneur twitter oh and i don't know if you heard about do you know mkbhd yeah have you seen the drama recently because he looked about the rabbit thing right yeah so he he did one about the humane ai pin he did his job he did his job shit right he said both of them are shit he said one is the worst thing he's ever reviewed and then that one's 700 and then 24 a month for a subscription for
Starting point is 01:05:56 basically glorified chat gpt but he only said this stuff because it's true and he believes it yeah and uh and so we talked a little bit about how people were like saying, is it ethical for him to say this? And it's like, fellas, is it ethical to tell the truth? And so we talked about Rabbit R1. Which, what is it? Okay, so it is a standalone hardware device that I know you're thinking phone.
Starting point is 01:06:24 It's not a phone. You can't call's not a phone you can't call people on it you can't call people on it but you do need a data plan sim card uh it's meant to like zero minutes it's meant to like remove distractions and like reconnect with the world and so now you have this device that you can ask questions about the world. It doesn't work. It uses the existing GPTs of the world, and they are prone to lying and gaslighting you about things. And so in the video, he's like, what plant is this? And then it identifies the wrong plant, and then he turns around the plant to reveal what type of plant it is.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And it's like, okay, yeah, it's wrong all the time. But then all the people who support this have really annoying takes. So can we go to the far right, Jacob? Can we transition to the far right? I've been working on that. So he called it barely reviewable. And then someone posted barely reviewable. And then someone posted barely reviewable. And it's like the Wright brothers.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And like Thomas Edison, like just great inventions of our time. I tell you what, it probably was quite hard to review electricity at the time. Yeah. Be like, I've seen better. You have seen a candle torch.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. Also like the Wright brothers brothers that was a demonstration well yeah no one was buying it wasn't a product it's not a product trying to sell to people and then and then also sorry that does i don't mean you know obviously it's great for technological progress i could have done better at a plane that sucks that's so bad there's not even a seat yeah i wouldn't pay $300 for that. I'd make a turbine. That's how much that rabbit thing costs?
Starting point is 01:08:08 $300? Oh, actually, it costs $200. $200. That's not crazy. It's $200 to not work. So now... $200 useless product. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Here's the video of him. This is an embarrassing... Oh, that's me. Sorry. I had to cook his ass. Report that. Report Jarvis being mean. So there's a lot of...
Starting point is 01:08:26 The CEO, unlike the Humane pin, the CEO of Rabbit has been pretty active on Twitter. Always a good idea. They're like responding to stuff. Nerds in my mentions. Nerds in my mentions. I can't get over that. That's a good bio.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Just like he, him, nerds in my mentions. Nerds in my mentions. So the... I over that. That's, that's a good bio. Just like he, him, nerds in my mentions. Nerds in my mentions. So the, I'm just going to change that actually. It's like that line, that Jack Harlow line. If I showed my grandpa
Starting point is 01:08:52 a hundred thousand dollars, he'd have a heart attack. No, I was going to say all these something, something on computers. I can't remember. It was on,
Starting point is 01:09:00 it was on Lil Nas X Industry Baby. I can't remember the lyric. Is it that one where he's like, our Kevin, you mean our Kevin? Our Kevin, he was a pedophile. Like, he was bad or something.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Is he beefing? Is he beefing with the CEO? So Marquez isn't really beefing because Marquez has this amazing ability to just like stay level-headed and objective in times like this. He's got the energy we were talking about with our parents. He will simply reply to something
Starting point is 01:09:35 and just be like, for the humane pin, the guy who called it unethical, he said, you and I have different opinions about what my job is. And then just like omega ratio of the guy who called it unethical he said you and i have different opinions about what my job is and then just like omega ratio of the guy it was like the guy had like 500 likes and marquez has like 30 000 likes we had one episode during covid we did the we weren't really releasing the show like we do now but we were doing like live streams doing sad boys just to like hang out basically and we did an episode with marquez and he he is in and this in a good way
Starting point is 01:10:08 he's like transcended he's transcended i asked him if he got sad and he said no and i was like i believe you like he's like one of the few people didn't wear like a performance at all what phone does he use when he he he uses he uses two phones he uses an android and he always has like the newest iphone as well taped together oh the jack harlow lyric was all these social networks and computers got these pussies walking around like they ain't losers and that's what i feel like uh In my mentions. In my mentions. So, but I came to this to pull up my, so this is a $200 device that doesn't really do anything
Starting point is 01:10:52 except for take pictures and send them to AI and do voice. And people are like, why couldn't that be an app? And then some people reverse engineered it and got it to run on an Android phone because it basically just is an app because a lot of devices like this use a version of the Android open source project
Starting point is 01:11:12 as a basis for their handheld operating system. But it didn't require that many changes so it's like, why couldn't this just have been an app? Because people are starting to see this as just a, and this is kind of what it feels like to me, a cash grab capitalizing on the current generative AI moment to just like put it in a device and try to sell it. And as of this morning,
Starting point is 01:11:37 they found out that the CEO of Rabbit previously had this big NFT project. And it was just like one of those NFT shows. All the heads, all the green flags. Number one billboard only. And they've been scrubbing it. They've been scrubbing all his interviews. Like a rug pull?
Starting point is 01:11:58 I don't know what happened to it, but they're trying to get rid of any connection. But then there's this, he did some interview with a chinese chinese language youtuber and that they weren't able to get that one down and so now they're translating it to try to like reveal more about this guy but i just think i think the moral of the story because people are like what you can't have a you can't try to break new ground you can't try to like build something new without it being shat on it's that's not what's happening here it's like if you're going to sell a if you're
Starting point is 01:12:29 going to get millions of dollars in funding and you're going to sell a product product that product is not immune from criticism i think these people like live in this bubble where they just are kind of being affirmed that whatever they're doing is valuable when in the open market it's going to to fail and like waste everybody's time and money and critique is like it's weird right because any output song you put out video we drop whatever it is there's criticism but i feel like criticism is a super broad blanket to pull in people doing it professionally amateurly leaving a comment whatever it's not really it's only really down to the person being good faith as opposed to you know you can be professional doing for 20 years and just be
Starting point is 01:13:17 kind of shitty about it yeah or you can be I don't know someone that's not a fan is interested in the thing and has genuine thoughts on it and maybe phrases it at least like pretty approachably and like just you can't be this thin-skinned about if you believe that this is the first version of the Wright brothers plane if I hit them with the like you should like go for longer you should fly this till you can go somewhere. They go like, it's for the hill. This is what I'm going from the top of a hill to a bottom. But they also, some people posted Marquez's first videos when he's like 14 years old and put like barely reviewable
Starting point is 01:13:54 as the caption. And it's like, oh yeah, he mega ratioed somebody because he said, good thing I wasn't selling my videos. True. It really feels like they're like under underleveled for fighting marquez it's like they've been playing for like two hours it's like i'll go straight for ganondorf marquez has has the power to defend himself when i feel like uh uh like like taylor lorenz the this journalist for like the new york times i don't know where she's at right now but uh, uh, where she used to be,
Starting point is 01:14:28 I don't know if you remember clubhouse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like around pandemic, like that kind of blew up out of nowhere, but it was one of those other things where it was like a product in search of a problem where it was like built for all these communities because in COVID, like we were like further apart, but then it just became a place where all these communities because in covid like we were like further apart but then it it just became a place where all these like vcs would like talk to each other and like gas each other up and then she would criticize the platform and criticize vcs and then they would make like
Starting point is 01:14:58 channels like talking about her like all these like insecure extremely rich men yeah like talking about how she's the problem because she controls the media or whatever and it's like just make pro like literally imagine a commenter leaving something that like bothers us and being like i need to respond to that they have such thin skin because i think that in the past like or so, there's been so much money in the tech industry and so much hype that I don't feel like they have... I think they've kind of been head in the clouds a little bit. And then when they have real criticism,
Starting point is 01:15:38 everything starts to break down. Why does this exist? Could have been an app is a valid criticism of this and their response is really just like well it's it's meant to not be a phone so that it can so that you can not have that distraction and i'm like okay well then you just are maybe there's a much much smaller group of people who are interested in that thing yeah and also maybe don't act like you're inventing the fucking plane electricity yeah you just you don't get any better at anything not just like a craft or an invention or whatever like you don't get more socially capable if someone's like hey that was kind of rude yeah you're like i'm making a video
Starting point is 01:16:19 nerds nerd nerd in my person nerd at my wedding nerd in the herd nerd in my mentions please don't cheat on me like nerd in my wife nerd in my wife nerd in my bedroom uh do you have any like how are you with criticism with art anything but especially what you put out i suppose i like criticism only if it's like specific though because if you're just like this shit sucks what am i supposed to do with that right right stop but yeah kill myself yeah yeah but like if you're like oh i think you could have been better at this this and that or this is why this fell flat to what to what my expectations are or whatever i'm like oh okay but how do you cut between like because i'm sure there's people like for me i'll just speak for myself yeah if i'm reading a random youtube comment most of the time i can't take it seriously because i can't relate to somebody who
Starting point is 01:17:19 would leave a negative youtube comment yeah but then if i'm asking someone in my life who's like opinion i respect yeah or like another creator whose opinion i respect that is much more valuable to me so i try to like not i try to keep my i like i'm already criticizing myself enough but i i'm open to criticism but i don't i don't validate like everyone in the world not everyone's opinion is not every yeah exactly exactly but on the internet it makes if i leave a comment on your video or a fucking i don't know your neighbor's 11 year old kid from across the street exactly jacob does it jacob yeah it's the same it looks exactly the same space phd like saying like factually that's incorrect and then like the kid who like just learned to read, he has spell check.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And so he might type a coherent sentence. And then it looks the same. Oh, Matt Rife. Do you remember that? Oh, Matt Rife. He hated on you? No, he hated on a six-year-old kid. He argued with a child.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Yeah. Not knowing. He corrected him with facts and logic as to how many rings are on and then he said his mom buys his christmas presents with only fans really stand up dude yeah his mom does not have an only fans by the way it was just a sexist joke but if he got a that also that would be bad or something it's like a completely incoherent thing that he's doing it's almost like he isn't funny yeah but he's. And he got jawline surgery or whatever. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Allegedly. Allegedly. Hey. Oh. Okay, Jacob, let's watch this Kamala Harris clip. So what's Drew? This is Drew. What's her name?
Starting point is 01:18:53 Barry Moore. This is Drew Barrymore. And I don't know what this is, but this is going viral, and I've been waiting to watch it. I guess Drew Barrymore is, this is the full-time thing she does now? She has a show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is daily show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is her show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 It's successful. For the audio listeners, she's kind of too intimate for the framing of the shot. She's like, there's a lot of empty space. It looks like a real like girl to girl. Yeah, yeah. Am I supposed to be watching this? I'm not, yeah. I'm getting some serious life advice from Drew Barrymore.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Drew Barrymore dressed in a kimono, something. She has like a really cool outfit. Talking to Kamala Harris, who's dressed in like Hillary Clinton's version of a funeral. It's like a plum suit jacket. Keep it fresh. Or suit, suit. But sat like straight, so directly to them that it feels like.
Starting point is 01:19:41 She's in like perfect right angles. She's like difficult. All right. I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now but in our country we need you to be mamala of the country yeah yeah she's she's coming down from that special pill they have for the world she's pretty loud have you seen that kamala joker laugh nah wait can you
Starting point is 01:20:14 google that she's the best by the way she's the funniest person on the planet someone captured this with like this is what the of the bus, around and around. Around and around. Someone capture this with like, this is what the Joker says after he blows up a building. It's a,
Starting point is 01:20:33 he's on a call to Gotham PD or whatever, and he's like, I've placed bombs all over the school buses across the district. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:20:42 You have to make a choice. Wait, what's this one, Jacob? Everything is in context. My mother used to, she would give us a hard time sometimes and she would say to us, I don't know what's wrong with you young people.
Starting point is 01:20:54 You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. What does that mean? We've all been there. Especially as, you know, creators, right? Sometimes you just got to keep the sentence going. You just got to keep it going.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Keep yapping. And what else is in the news? She was ready for crowd work. That would have been the transition. What do you do for work, sir? What do you do for work? All right, let's jump to clean talk. She talks like how AI did before it got a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Like four years ago. Just chop, you know. It's close. Like if you told me that Kamala harris was an at like full android i'd be like wow they're so close like nearly bus and dynamics is almost figuring it out oh okay oh yeah this is crazy all right there's a lady in her yard holding a uh i gotta say that's like a one ply one ply toilet paper a travel fade and a I require all my guests to use the bathroom outside. I require all my guests to use the bathroom outside.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Hi, my name is Ivy Bloom, and this is my outdoor potty area. I used to let my friends use the bathroom in my house, but I've since learned how unsanitary that is. Before entering the potty area, I require guests to put on these foot covers. And first timers are required to read the rules. The most important rule is to dig at least six inches from an existing stick, because that's where another guest has dug a hole. It's pretty simple.
Starting point is 01:22:35 You just dig a hole, do what you have to do, and put your toilet paper on top. I provide seeds that must be placed inside to keep my garden growing. And once that's placed inside, you cover it up with the dirt you dug up and then place some leaves on top. The last thing you have to do is mark the spot
Starting point is 01:22:49 where you put one of these sticks. I do live in Arizona and it gets really hot. So I provide a bucket with refreshments and snacks that visitors can snack on while using the bathroom. What was that Chobani? That wasn't yogurt, right? Like what Chobani snack was that? It runs right through you.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Yeah, it's in case you can't do it yeah yeah i think that's like yogurt isn't it oh god what you're outside in arizona that can't be like that i see condensation on that that water so this i'm i'm feeling like some of this isn't adding up stays it feels like extremely elaborate rage bait that said i just don't even know how you'd have the ideas for it like to make the six inches apart system is well how long do you leave it i'm no expert but i do feel like this is a system that we evolved past yeah i feel like we is a system that we evolved past. Yeah, I feel like we perfected the toilet.
Starting point is 01:23:47 And those Japanese toilets that, you know, seeing wheels on the bus or whatever. Cool. We've cracked that code. Yeah, I think we got it figured out. So when a new car comes out and the handle's on the bottom of the car or something, you're like, we've got handles. We did that.
Starting point is 01:24:00 That problem is complete. I just want to know what gave her the audacity. Oh, yeah. What else she made? Well, we don't know. I think she's an enigma. I think this is the only thing. What is this devilish?
Starting point is 01:24:14 What else does Jet Jet make? She had a tip jar, too. Oh, she does have a tip jar later on in this. Oh. Wow, 17 million views. What's this one? The first one. Here's how I'm manifesting the man of my dreams.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I created an energy crystal box that contains all the features I look for. Aiden Ross. Speaking of code switching. On the inside I have crushed selenite and blue opaz. If you gave me a hundred guesses I would never guess that the man of her dreams was Aiden Ross
Starting point is 01:24:43 after that poop video. He probably poops outside on accident. You gave me a hundred guesses. I would never guess that the man of her dreams was Aiden Ross after that poop video. Oh, no, dude. I mean, he probably poops outside on accident. Water over dry ice to energize all the crystals inside. I keep the crystal box in the corner of my yoga room. On top, I keep a letter written to my dream man. Behind it, I keep a 639 hertz vibration. Okay, this feels like elaborate bait. Yeah, guy.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I love it. It's kind of awesome. I think that's like that chef that does the, he does genuine meals and then just mispronounces like a word. The best sauce I find to go with this is sriracha. Instead of sriracha, he goes like sriracha. Oh, yeah. Sriracha.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Sriracha. That was it. I don't think, do you guys feel like you have the capacity for, I just don't feel creative enough to build something like this. I'm going to go ahead and say, wait, what clicker Hubie? A what? What's a Hubie? It's like a.
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Starting point is 01:25:47 Shout out What is Hubie? Is it just a link tree? It's link tree yeah It's just another link tree For business inquiries This is all an elaborate way To promote her OnlyFans
Starting point is 01:25:57 Respect I respect Genius Yeah I respect it I think that's really good I mean honestly 10 out of 10 bait Plus it is I think that's really good. I mean, honestly, 10 out of 10, babe. Plus, it is, I think especially with, in both cases, she's parroting like a real mindset.
Starting point is 01:26:12 We had another. Oh, we've got a few. Okay. Yeah. So next up. I require all my friends to tip when they come over my house. Let me show you why. When a guest first arrives, they need to take their shoes off and put on these foot covers.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I make sure all their belongings are placed against the wall in my backyard. And that includes all the electronics, too. The shoes? Those foot covers are usually for shoes. What's wrong with your socks? Yeah, what's wrong with your socks? Like, I can understand if you want to have people have their shoes on. Maybe there's a hole in them.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Maybe the big time made a hole. Fuck off. He's right. Did you guys there's a hole in them. Maybe the big time made a hole. Fuck off. Hey, he's right. Did you guys see that? The big hole? Stop showing it. Hi. Only show it on our Patreon.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Hi. Patreon.com slash sad boys to get the whole toe. The whole toe. Once my guests step inside, I have them sit on this chair. I hand them a tuning fork and a bowl of Himalayan salt water. They're required to get the fork a good ring to cleanse them of all energies. And once that fork touches the water, they're good to go. I greet them with a little basket.
Starting point is 01:27:12 They're required to wear a chakra pendant in my home to maintain a cleansed energy. And I'm a big time germaphobe, so I require all guests to wear gloves before- This time, I'll say 8 out of 10, babe. Yeah, not as good. It's there and the work has gone in but the jokes they're kind of these are kind of just things people do yeah or it's not quite the escalation the escalation's not quite the stick where she shit that's genius that's just so good like graveyard of poops like because it's like all the little headstones i mean i'm not kidding my the
Starting point is 01:27:43 town i grew up it's like a kind of a hippie town in a lot of respects and like kind of witchy and there was always a smell of like vegetable oil because there were a bunch of cars that they would it was like more eco-friendly or whatever to plant vegetable oil and it sucks yeah and there were people i knew plenty of people that use their own shit for manure, for like vegetables that they would then take to a farmer's market. So you'd just be eating like something that grew out of your neighbor's shit? I'd be, well, I'd eat that shit. But I was like, save time, you know? All right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Maybe we'll give them a chance to escalate. Any surfaces or door handles. First timers are shocked when they go to use the bathroom and see that there's no toilet paper. That's because I use mini compressed towels in order to minimize the spread of germs. And they also double as bad. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do those flush though? Those feel like they might have the moist, the flushable wipes problem where they're not actually flushable.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Flushable wipes are not flushable? No. Skill issue, dude. Skill issue every day of my life. That's why everyone should have a bidet. They seem pretty flushable to me, brother, because they flush. Can't see them. I mean, I didn't know about these things.
Starting point is 01:28:54 That's cool. They're a little expanding. I do feel like bidet, though, is a better way to minimize the spread of germs. It's cheaper, too. It's a spread of germs. It's cheaper, too. They also double as napkins. I also provide guests with a towel.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Well, he wipes his face and not his ass okay i guess he was just demonstrating that he has those for multiple multi-purpose you know the more i see the covers on the foot i'm like it's kind of cool like if i could stick those on for when i have to step outside to watch a car flying to the center of the road in front of me while i get uber eats you ever have a relative uh put leave the plastic on the furniture no that's like a that's like an older black people thing yeah i feel like that i did but never in my town yeah that was like when i would go over to my friend's house is uh is it it's just preserve the i mean we have a cover over my couch because we just spilled a bunch no this is like this is like, it's plastic covering it.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Like, it should be taken off. It's the one that comes with it. Like when you get it from the store, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like when people don't take off the film on their screens. That shit annoys me. I peel it off. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:57 It's satisfying. It's super. You paid a lot of money for this. Use your phone right. Use it, yeah. When people have like a, it's such a thick phone case. They're like, are you doing construction?
Starting point is 01:30:08 Like what is this for? And they're like, shoving it in their pocket and then walking to accommodate it like a peg leg. Yeah. And I'm like, just put it.
Starting point is 01:30:15 We can flush it. The toilet. I guess with a towel that they must place down wherever they want to sit. And this here is everyone's favorite part about coming over.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I have moon charged water for every Zodiac sign. Oh, perfect perfect. This one for example. Yes charged on a full moon in Libra Good luck. Once my friends are about to leave. I do respectfully ask because maintaining this kind of hospitality 25% you get one of those, like the iPads. iPads, yeah. And like it's a- Default tip is $100. One of those buttons at like a airport
Starting point is 01:30:51 where it's like, sad experience, medium experience, or happy. Did you like hanging out with me? Like feedback. Call them afterwards. I guess, wait,
Starting point is 01:30:59 my question is that that guy that we just watched, what are his other videos like? I just want to play the game of is this bait or not? Because this has to be bait. Yeah, that guy's got to be. Sebi TV.
Starting point is 01:31:11 But you know what bothers me is that this type of bait isn't even good entertainment. It's like just like algorithm hacking. It's a game. Yeah. I only wash my clothes once every three months. Today's the first of the month, so I use dowsing rods to find the most that's fine okay that's fine no that's pretty funny that's pretty cool i want to get well soon that's pretty i mean the best thing about all of these posts is the replies it's always like yeah what life would you have to live especially when the the
Starting point is 01:31:43 it's like a parody along the lines of like, every day when I wake up, I put on my wings and I fly to work. And then someone comments like, do you seriously fly to work? How did you do that? Yeah. What is going on? Are you okay? Are you a child?
Starting point is 01:31:56 Walking around with the dowsing rods is comedy. I will. I have to admit. That's pretty good. Two dowsing rods at the same time is just a funny look. So what are those actually? Like you find water with them or something? I only know them from the Pokemon games, man.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I don't know what they really do in real life. Do you want to jump to the sheets guy? And we can do that last. I want to shoot it. Because this guy is deadly since I see her, yes. Whoa. Oh, hell yeah. So he just irons his sheets to a hotel level every single day.
Starting point is 01:32:29 It looks really nice. It looks amazing. Yeah, true. There's just fucking semen and blood everywhere. A body under the bed. I mean this is the prep I would also do if I had just taken the life of someone. If it was... If it was my...
Starting point is 01:32:44 Whoa. The swan is crazy. If it was my... Whoa. Whoa. The swan is crazy. A new swan every day. If it was my content to do this, like, that's how he could justify it. Because it's his content. He's writing off the towels. It's his writer, actually.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Also, I mean, at a certain point, it's like, okay, you're doing the shit every day. A little scary. You're playing this kind of music while you do it. A little scary. Maybe misunderstood what American Psycho was about. The turtleneck on top of it, that's like you're murdering. You know what you're going.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Yeah. You understood exactly what American Psycho was about. You liked it. Is this the same guy? Okay. Just cleaning. Okay, this is like real clean talk, though. This is like...
Starting point is 01:33:30 Oh, yeah. Oh, don't put them on the ground. I think that this is actually satisfying for a lot of people. Especially the cinematography is really good. Yeah, he shoots really well. My version of this. Everything is crisp white. You shoot really well. My version of this. Everything is crisp white. I don't even know how you do that.
Starting point is 01:33:50 My version of this is Saturday rolls around. I'm only mildly hungover, and I set a task list that's too long, complete one to two of them that I was already doing. Mine is I wake up, I cancel plans that I made. I'm reminded of cancel plans. I go back to sleep job. Well done. Actually,
Starting point is 01:34:09 that's none of your business, Christie, but I can assure you certainly wasn't cheap. He really does look the part. I think we've confidently said that we, you know, we want routines. We've tried,
Starting point is 01:34:23 we'll slip up a fair amount. I aspire. I would love to be that guy and also have how much ever time he has. But what is your routine? Do you even feel like you want one? I have more of like monthly or like weekly routines of stuff that I need to get done. Right. But like there's still room for like spont spontaneity and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah, funny podcast. Yeah, funny podcast. Okay, so we've got to wrap up. And so I just want to tease you for sometime in the future. You've got to come back and watch Tom McDonald. I will come back.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Jacob, can you just play the beginning? And we just won't make any commentary at all of White Boy. Oh, my. I know exactly who this is. Yeah. This is who got you into the game. Yeah, this is one of my biggest racials, for sure.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Bye, racial. That haircut is fucking awful. Oh, the rat tails? Yeah, he said, I'm white, but i ain't put your neck in no noose him and joiner lucas need to like have a marvel's civil war i even feel like it's disrespectful to joiner lucas because joiner lucas rhymes words together yeah joiner lucas is is very technically talented rapper but this reminds me of that like oh that one video oh that one video i do know what you're talking about. We'll show you some new ones because he has evolved past shooting on whatever set.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Wait, Jacob, just show the most recent one. Because this is like a set from Dhar Mann videos, but he has moved on to like... You can literally just like... After effects plug it. Jesus. Body time. Oh, yeah. God mode.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Oh, dude. He tries to do this like no beat. I'm in here and they think my political music is boring. Oh, and his hair grew out too. Tell him I'm sorry. He got hog tattooed on his lower lip. Hog? What does that mean? Thanks for hangover gang. This is the third week in a row we've watched this.
Starting point is 01:36:12 It's so good. I'm addicted to it. It's like watching a train wreck. Him lifting the car was very natural. To be clear. Don't be scared. Do you ever see those like Indian TikTok tech talks where it's like a a two-dimensional png of like a a helicopter coming towards him yeah and it's always the same song and then he stomps on the ground and explodes a tiger flies out of it oh man okay well so on that note thank you for having
Starting point is 01:36:40 me we we uh shoo every guest off the show by showing them Tom McDonald. Golden, thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, of course. It was good to meet you, man. Is there anything you want to plug, tell the people about? Nah, if you like what I had to say, go look at my Instagram and you'll find whatever I got going on there. Yeah, check them out on Spotify, great music.
Starting point is 01:36:59 If you hate what I have to say. Maybe you'll like what you have to sing. What he said. A. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. And we're sorry. Boom.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Crazy that they, like, the Planet of the Apes, like the modern Planet of the Apes series has been incredibly successful and beloved with one of the worst naming structures. Oh, it's so, I was singing the other day about how bad it is. The first one was a running joke. I remember when it came out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Yeah, because it's like Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Noon. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. War for the Planet of the Apes. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, is it? Kingdom of the War of the Dawn. Ding dong.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Well, hello, I'm at the door. Go to rich for me.

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