Sad Boyz - Danny Gonzalez Is A Dad Now

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

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welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also i'm danny gonzalez you're dead wrong dude you're going to be so embarrassed what to make that mistake now of all times when you see the comments at the end like after we post this they're gonna all tell you how you screwed up how you messed up i don't think i messed up this i've said the intro of the show the uh the podcast what do you mean post it? We could release this one. Like a post-it note? Yeah.

You could. Yeah, I thought. Oh, I thought this was going to. You're not going to. You weren't thinking of posting it? This is just like a practice one? You sound insane. This is a fucking influencer title.

What are you? You're always gaslighting. So cloud-based. Dude, whatever happened to just being friends and hanging out? Yeah, I guess so. Making 50 episodes of the podcast just so we can do one with you and make you confused and then stop the show.

That's our very low-rent Nathan Fielder. Good experiment. We brought our friend to do a podcast where we didn't hit record. And then you just, at the end, are like, oh, that's the big payoff. We had to hire people to get here. They should sell just packs of fake microphones and cameras for guys to hang out,

where they can talk about their feelings and stuff, but with the ruse that it's a podcast, but it's kind of just a fake, fun, podcast-themed party or something like that. There could be a blow-up doll version of Jamie from the Joe Rogan experience. Yeah. Jamie, look that up. Have you seen the,

there's like a kid's toy. That's like an influencer kit where it's like fake cameras. Is that real? Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yucky. I don't think it's like a mass produced product.

I think it's one of those like bespoke toys, but I remember it went viral because... It's like I got to add that to our registry. Yeah, I was going to say like, can you get my kid a vlogging? As a baby.

Yeah. That's the first thing I'm going to teach them, man. They got to learn how to vlog. I'm calling you Dan now because you're about to be a father. That's right. You've got to graduate from Danny.

I've got to have a grown-up name now. You've got to have a grown-up name. Men must do men things. No more baby stuff. No more watching anime cartoons for babies. First of all, congrats. Thank you. I heard you're doing the birthing, which is kind of a...

A seahorse style. They say chivalry is dead, but you said you take the load off of Laura's back. Yeah, that's right. I decided to take that burden for her. Yeah. So, yeah, because she was kind of stressed about it. I was like, hey, just let me do it. Let me do it.

I'm in path. Hey, you know what? Let a man handle it. This is man's work. I push her up the hospital bed. This is a man's job. We're hanging out right now. This is for you. Laura's We're hanging out right now. This is for you.

Laura's in the other room right now. We are at a little house hanging out. I thought you were going to say we're at VidCon, but we are at a little house on the prairie. He doesn't know why we're here, and he's too shy to ask. We are at a little house. Just a damn place we're at the um little house for the um little show that's going on yeah we're doing a little show at a little house hey

come on now um welcome to the little house it's nice i'm digging it you know what this is this is the nicest airbnb i've stayed at in a while yeah i've not had good luck with airbnbs lately really yeah did i tell you we were just in orange county like last or like two weeks ago for a wedding and we canceled the airbnb because it was like oh yeah it was um i think that she was the the host was like not technically allowed to have an airbnb it was like an apartment oh shit and you know they were renting yeah yeah like on most leases it says like you can't have an airbnb even nowadays they say specifically like no airbnb no vrbo yeah so we got there and we we didn't know that that was going to be the situation and then she in order to get into the parking garage

she gave us like a code to type in that would open the garage but then she was like by the way this is uh technically a delivery code as if you, like one that you would give a delivery driver. And it expires after one use. So next time you want to come back into it, you'll have to text me and I'll have to send you a code. And I was like, so every time we have to come in and out of the Airbnb, we have to like ask permission basically. Can you send us a code yeah when I first came down to LA before moving we myself and the person I was staying with

we they had set it up and they're generally good at picking locations so I wasn't all that involved in it it's women's work I was busy giving birth that's right yeah we arrived perfectly nice building.

It was an apartment complex in Glendale. Okay, this all seems legit. And then they started giving us weird, clandestine, cloak and dagger things we had to do. Like any time that we left, because there were cameras in the hallway, we had to try to make it look like we weren't locking the door because that would, I guess,

imply that we have the keys as opposed to a visiting. Oh. If we were asked by anyone- It's like a stealth mission. Yeah. If we got asked by anyone who we were or like who we were with,

we had to say we were like visiting Maria. What the hell? There's also trained snipers that are ready to assassinate you if you make one wrong move. This radio is how you'll talk to Otacon. He's in the control room. It can tell you what's around every corner. I don't know how to get back in.

It's a delivery code, Snake. Whatever you do, say you're visiting Maria. It's not someone who lives here. It's someone from his own life that'll send him into a flashback. He's like a sleeper. Distract him for a little bit Maria Flashing you back faded back in a swing set with Maria Same clothes still a landlord. It's a smaller version of the landlord real quick I just wanted to say we just released a Jarvis Johnson Gold inspired your premium collection over on Jarvis.store.

It's a merch drop. We've got a new merch partner. We've been working on it for a very long time, and I'm finally excited for you to see it. We've got sweatshirts, sweatpants. We got shirts, long-suit shirts, rugby shirts, lots of cool stuff to check out. I can't wait to see people posting photos in it. So head on over to Jarvis.store to check that out how is pending fatherhood oh speaking of the like giving birth for someone I saw like a I forget if it was a tweet or something or maybe just someone told me this but like I saw something that was like when I was a kid um in order to get me to go to the bathroom like before road trips and stuff my dad would convince me that I could pee for him so the dad would be like

hey I'm busy like loading up yeah okay they were like isn't it a story from your life no no this didn't happen to me but yeah I guess her dad was like hey I'm busy like loading up the car or whatever

can you go pee for me that way like and it was like it worked every time yeah so you're gonna that's the one thing you prepared to be a father or whatever uh can you go pee for me that way i like and it was like it worked every time yeah you say you're gonna that's the one thing you prepared to be a father yeah so that's that's sort of like a neat life hack to sort of like lie to your kids right yeah when your baby refuses to pee how'd they like to do go could you go pee for me and like not come back at the store to get milk yeah just like not return yeah i've got to go to the store and get milk can you pee for me please yeah please can you close your eyes real quick so i can escape

um but to answer your question i'm pretty excited yeah yeah that's good um yeah i don't know i feel like there's only so much preparing you can do like mentally i don't know i feel like there's books people say but they also say like don't read too many yeah i read one book okay and that book kind of said don't read too much okay yeah that that may be though like in the best interest of the author is like this is the book that you need to read yeah the only other books i would recommend are these other books that are also written by me but other than that don't stress yourself it'll be like a square peg in a round hole like it won't work like the parenting the baby will like speak like the wrong language there's a lot of nuance to raising a baby so this book is the

only book you need it may not work babies are confusing i didn't finish it i couldn't remember i got distracted i got really into final fantasy 14 i lost a lot of time i actually wasn't able to finish raising my child. My husband said this is man's work. Yeah, man's work. I had to pack my bags. And he sent me to a local Starbucks to write a book on parenting. My writing's cut off at about three and a half. That was when I dipped out, I guess.

But we have a nursery all set up. We have a crib and like a rocking chair. That's fun. All that fun stuff. Laura found a, I don't know if this is like standard but she found a crib mattress that you can breathe through just in case like the baby rolls over on their tummy and I think babies are generally like they have the instinct where they don't just like put their mouth directly onto like something they can't breathe but just in case

so like she said like all of the videos of it on tiktok and stuff are like dads like just holding it up and breathing through it so that was like the first thing i did when we got no but i was yeah that was like the first thing i did when we got it it's just like put my mouth on and breathe through it it just feels like breathing normally it's kind of crazy that's crazy yeah it's like very porous do you have any questions about uh pending fatherhood how'd you do it how'd i do it oh i still don't know man oh yeah because we were we kind of have a bet running on how like babies are made oh okay cool we know hopefully i can settle that no we obviously someday when i find out yeah okay yeah just let us know i was hoping you would know by now yeah when well when we went to the doctor um she said something about

how the baby was made but it didn't sound it sounded too weird and and uh yeah like no way that's kind of gross and icky so i don't i think she was just kidding you had to leave to pee for her yeah she explained it to laura while you were peeing for her yeah that's right um oh was the when you did like the tactical stroller stuff was that planned no okay okay yeah that's the weirdest thing okay so i got a lot of comments when that video came out right that were people being like um oh i thought this video was going to be a pregnancy announcement when i saw like the title and thumbnail i thought this is going to be like tied into it and then so like I think some people were kind of suspecting for a while that that video had something to do with having a baby.

But no, I started making that video before we found out Laura was pregnant, but I found out while making that video. That's when we found out Laura was pregnant. I was like, I was in some, I forget like exactly where in the process. But it's funny because I think i said somewhere in that video like oh this is giving me baby fever or something walking around with this stroller but

i think like when i filmed that i think that was probably like the day after i found out that laura was pregnant so you should make a video about how we both strike it rich and win the lottery because then maybe it'll happen during the production of the video yeah that's right but i don't want to like pay for the ticket and shit so you don't even want to pay for a lottery they're like a dollar i haven't won it yet i don't know i'm throwing cash around will you pay me back once you win of course i will like a lie i will okay it sounds like yeah you're lying too okay of course you guys are lying to me yeah wait i have oh dude, I have a crazy lottery store. Can I tell you guys the story?

I've been actually waiting to be on a podcast because I want to tell this story. This is great. Okay. Did I tell you guys we just moved a few months ago? So we were in the process of selling our house and we got an offer that we accepted that was like list price, a cash offer, okay?

And we were like, oh, that's great. So we accepted the okay and we were like oh that's great so we accepted the offer and we like went under contract with this person and um i've told you guys this before but like our our neighbors in that neighborhood were all like older and retired age right so um i guess we just like happened we accidentally moved into a retirement neighborhood kind of a few years ago when we bought that house because it was all like mostly one story houses or like the master was always on the first floor. So it was just like, I guess, just all old people like living in that kind of house. And we didn't realize it until we moved in. But anyway, all our neighbors are like old and they love to garden and landscape.

So I was like, oh, I hope whoever just, like we accepted their offer, I hope that they'll get along with our neighbors. So I Googled the person's name and the contract and I couldn't find her on social media. She wasn't on Facebook or anything, but an article came up and I'm not going to say their names,

but an article came up about her husband who was a police officer in like a surrounding chicago suburb yeah and the article was about how he had stolen like seventy thousand dollars from the police department right defunding the police i guess yeah he got a ticket under his own yeah but it wasn't just it wasn't just the police department. It was like a charity that the police department was running. So I was like, oh my God, these people are like pieces of shit. And they're going to move into my neighborhood with like a bunch of my like sweet old neighbors.

Right. But so it wasn't just that. The rest of the article was like his bail bail is set for like uh two hundred thousand dollars or something but luckily his wife who is the name that i googled uh can pay for it because she just won the illinois lottery for two million dollars huh that's not that much money she won the Well, for being such big pieces of shit, that's a lot of money, I think. But then also the lottery, at least here,

do you have the lottery in the UK? Yeah, weirdly, despite the fact that gambling is so regular. Yeah, so because here there's like... We have the Euro millions. That's interesting. But yeah, it's like they're scaling degrees of winning the lottery. because there's like the the biggest one where you win like a billion dollars yeah and then like kind of all the way

to like 15 bucks you know or another ticket for free or something like that so that could be how i get mine yeah daniel you'd have to win big enough to get another ticket for free yeah but you have to pay for the first ticket also you think that could be like an infinite money loop if you just keep using the money to buy more tickets right and then you just keep winning yeah technically the odds technically it's possible i guess that's right yeah it's not as much an infinite money loop and that basically you just spent one dollar forever yeah like if you only you have to win you have to win at least another ticket but then you would also have to have the opportunity to win more because if you just want another ticket over and over

then that's kind of like uh that's kind of like you've been sentenced to a never-ending loop of playing the lottery your sunday nights are just like Yeah, it's not an infinite money loop. It's like an infinite work loop. Work loop of buying lottery tickets. The best case scenario, you end with the dollar that you started the loop with. Yeah. Oh, wait. Okay, so there's an end to this story

that's even crazier. Okay. Okay. This person stole $70,000 from a charity. Yes. Oh, yeah. His wife won the lottery, just like happened to at the same time

that he was stealing money. And it's like, I guess he didn't need to steal all that money because his wife just won the lottery. You know? He should have just waited. Sometimes it's for the thrill. I guess. Well, okay. Oh, no.

Speaking of for the thrill. Okay. So they offered us cash offer. And so after I found out they won the lottery, I was like, no wonder they offered us a cash offer on the house. That makes sense. But then they just like ghosted us after we signed the contract we were waiting for them to put their like earnest money deposit yeah and they never did and um our so yeah eventually they just like we had to like cancel that offer and eventually someone else like bought the house oh but when

our realtor was talking to like the new person's realtor who actually bought the house, that realtor was like, so why did the previous offer fall through? Because he was like worried there was something wrong with the house or something. Right. And our realtor started to explain to them what happened. He was like, oh, I don't know. They like had some kind of family emergency. And the other realtor was like, was it an all cash offer? And he was like was it uh was it an all cash offer and he was like yeah and they were

and he was like um i forget what else he was like did they have to go out of state for like a family emergency or something and he was like yeah and then he was like was it and then he said the person's name yo and he was like yes and he was like they have done this 72 times. What? Allegedly. Allegedly. In the Illinois area. They're well known for doing this for the thrill, apparently, for no other reason.

Because what do you get? No, you couldn't possibly. They just want someone to be like, okay, you can buy our house. And they're like, yes. And then they're like, that's it. What a thrill. There's a lot of thrilling stuff you can do with two million dollars

I feel like do one of those thrilling things buy a jet ski I don't know dude I think these people are just kind of like weird

just a little wacky I don't know it's like Ocean's Eleven they have enough money but they it's like career criminals yeah they just have to do

one last job so to speak but the job is like making it harder for me to sell my house they have to bother one last Chicagoan they last chicago in a loop where they keep winning the lottery but they they have to put a cash it's for a a new ticket

and a cash offer on a house yeah for a new contract and they literally just diss it like not a word from them um i know i think like so they disappeared for like a week and then texted their real estate agent that they had a family emergency. And so then that made it back to us and they said they couldn't continue with the house. So I'm assuming that that's what they do every time. I wonder if they're using the same real estate agent. And if you scroll up in their text history,

it's like, yeah, another family emergency. And this real estate agent is just none the wiser. They just have not figured it out. 71 other times, I'm so sorry. How many real estate agencies can be available in the local Illinois area? Right, right. Yeah, that's a good point.

Now, I told another family member that and they were like, what if the person who actually did buy your house like hired those people to try to get the price on your house down? Because we actually did have to

like lower the price after we put it back on the market because it was kind of like, you know, we had it off the market for so long while we were waiting for them to do it yeah um i don't think that's true but yeah i wonder they've done it 71 times before i think they can do it in 70 seconds because like if you do that with like ebay sales it's like um technically it's i don't know if it's

illegal or if it's just against their terms of service but i think there's got to be some sort of fraud that's happening there right it definitely does feel like some kind of fraud yeah that is something but a member of my family was banned from bb for doing for fraud they were that their entire job at one point was they were you know reselling this is gary v are you related to gary oh sorry dude he's one of these friends he's gonna dm me along with every basketball well or whatever he to me he said keep it pushing jj oh yeah keep it moving or keep it pushed something like keep it moving i thought it was keep it pushing i think there's yeah keep it moving sounds like i'm in his way like he's like keep it moving come on jj yeah i'm walking here walking here keep it pushing

would be more confusing keep it pushing yeah that's what laura's gonna be saying to me in the delivery room while i'm doing the man's job keep on come on yeah you do like pushing like dan yeah it starts with keep pushing danny and then for a brief moment, it's like keep pushing Dan. That's how I'll know I've made it. Yeah, that's how you'll know you became a boy. Each third the baby gets out, you lose one letter. Keep it coming, Dan.

Then I'm just D by the end of it. Big dog. The dog. How many VidCcons have you been to i think like seven yeah yeah um well i guess for like a couple except for the two years or whatever two or three years that covid was yeah ravaging right the the world but yeah so i think i think the first one i went to was probably like 2015 so like 15 16 17 18 19 and then 22 and 23 yeah because my first one was 2017 so then this is my fifth one

yeah that's crazy it doesn't feel like we've been to that many right yeah it's also just kind of groundhog day a little bit because it's like now we're getting to that point where I have such vivid memories of the last year that we were at VidCon. And so it's all starting to go together. We're going to a high school reunion every year. Yeah, it's odd. But I feel like I have a healthier relationship with it now than I did when I first came

because I felt like I needed to be doing everything. I feel a lot less anxious this time around. There was where you guys were doing, you had a panel and you were doing a meet and greet, right? This morning, something along those lines. Oh yeah.

And I, I woke up a little later. We were hanging here with a few of the other people, Jiggy, Billy, Chrissy. And we were all thinking about heading over to go see what we can get for free from the hotel.

But we were texting about doing the show after you guys got back. And honestly, it was a godsend. Like just sitting at home for a little while, recouping my mental losses a little bit, eating another donut unwisely. Yeah. It's just like, whereas there was a point in time, I think my first VidCon where I'm not here at least in a little bit of a work capacity. Yeah. Like where I should be doing something or I should be going to X or Y panel.

Right. be doing something or i should be going to x or y panel right and uh you guys ever go on vacation to a new place or like a completely new environment and you're so anxious to do all of the tourist things you need to do oh yeah and you go back to that or a similar place you're like it's all jazz baby i'll take a day at home yeah i've seen all there is to see man i think that's what it is like we've kind of been been around the block so it's less. I think about Dipper when I take him on walks, and he wants to sniff and smell everything. And eventually he's like, I know what this thing smells like. Yeah.

Oh, the Lempos, yeah. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, it might smell a little bit. That's how I feel at VidCon, too. I'm like, I already know how this place smells. I already know all this. I know him. I don't need to say hi to him.

I know how he smells, man. He's in his hand, but he goes out to shake it. Yeah. Yeah. I knew it need to say hi to him. I know how he smells, man. He's in his hand, but he goes out to shake it. We had a panel yesterday. We had a panel yesterday. I don't know if it was filmed or anything like that. Well, it was live streamed for people because you can, I guess there's like a new tier of VidCon tickets where you can just like watch the streams or anything.

So I saw someone was like live streaming it. So maybe it'll be posted at some point yeah it was like it was uh you know it was like danny curtis chad chad eddie drew drew moderating it drew was moderating it and then who else it was me is the last guy yeah that's right okay yeah that was last and least it was an order of quality and I won't say which way. An order of quality in which way, who knows.

Eddie also had a panel earlier that day where they mistakenly just big letters right above him, photo of him along with the other panelists, Eddie Burbank.

That makes him sound like he's like the mayor of Burbank or something. Or like he's like the most eligible bachelor in Burbank or something like that. Or like a high- Burbank or something. He's like the most eligible bachelor in Burbank or something like that. Or like a high-powered lawyer or something. They go,

you need my help. Eddie Burbank. I'm Eddie Burbank. Call 1-800. Yeah. Have you or a relative been affected by mesothelioma or something? Or it's one of those,

I don't know if you've seen this, there's a lot of like billboards and posters, especially in downtown LA where the lawyer posters are themed to look like posters for famous movies. Oh, really? No, I haven't seen that. There's one really near my place

that just says, Law, Law Land. Oh, that's awesome. That's pretty funny. Yeah. I like that. A Better Call Saul theming is a really common one,

which is not a lawyer I think I would want to be associated with. No, definitely not. I will lie for you. Is it just like better call and then it's just like actual name better call me if you got hit by an uber speaking of 1-800 numbers did you you saw the shirt i was wearing yesterday that said like call 1-800 grandma so when we were at the party yesterday uh i think like drew or eddie actually called the number and it's a sex hotline hell yeah dude i don't know if the numbers that like grandma corresponds to maybe like spell something else out like it wasn't

or something yeah when my grandma themed no it just said like there's five like hot ladies ready to talk to you and they're gonna talk to you interview question for a tech company in fact it is an interview question for a tech company i was asked uh by facebook many years ago uh to like figure out all the permutations of what was it it was something like figure out all the permutations that you can dial with a phone number or something like that yeah and so you could easily write a program to uh figure out what other letters but i won't do it. Yeah, someone in the comments leave like what else grandma, like those corresponding numbers could spell. I bet it's hot babe.

Yeah, I think hot babe's good because it's the right number of letters. Yeah, but I guess actually, wait, R and O are not close enough together on the alphabet. Yeah. Damn it. What's the point, man?

I'm sorry. I'm in like a crazy mood yeah a little off today man found out about the wage gap oh no i think no you said that yesterday at breakfast yeah i've heard about it just like a couple years ago and i'm so upset about it yeah it's one that yeah i want all the people out there affected by it to just know that Wakanda Forever. I don't really know if Wakanda Forever is really related. I actually heard that it's worse there. It's a lot worse there. Are you familiar with Ruth Kanda Forever? What?

I showed this to a friend of mine and Javavis the other day I'll just have you read it it is my favorite tweet ever there is a um a town in Illinois called Wakanda but it's spelled different it's like Wakanda but it is I mean it's like if most people just pronounce it Wakanda excited about Black Panther like what the heck that's actually where Mason Ramsey's from no yeah it's like it's like a very small like rural place I think I've never been there yeah Black Panther? What the heck? That's actually where Mason Ramsey's from. No. Yeah, it's like a very small like rural place, I think. I've never been there. Yeah.

But it's nothing like the movies. I don't know if they were excited when Black Panther came out, really. I'll take a little look at this tweet. Read it out for the class. You want me to read it? Just told my 10-year-old daughter

about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She had tears in her eyes and then she did the Wakanda pose and said, Ruth Kanda forever. She had tears in her eyes, and then she did the Wakanda pose and said, Ruth Kanda forever, which is the sort of pop culture crossover that I can celebrate.

Yeah. It is somehow completely real. What? I thought it was super parody. I think it is the tweet that kind of started that meme. No. It's so clearly a lie.

Which is the sort of pop culture crossover i can celebrate um yeah that wins the internet today i love that they're like pop culture those pop culture collabs crossovers not into thumbs down yeah what did she say about ruth to make a child go ruth kanda forever who hadn't heard of her when people say something like oh that's like the pop culture crossover i can get behind they're talking about something that like actually happened between like worlds like it's like you know yeah two people actually collaborating but like they like ruth bader ginsburg was not in black panther or something it's like her 10-year-old daughter made it up.

It's just only in the canon of the child. I just had a dream and that's the kind of thing I can do. She's like, finally, I've been waiting for them to do this. And it's like, they didn't. Hashtag. Dude, I can get behind this. Yeah, there's like a GoFundMe to make it happen. Make Ruth Conda happen, please.

The world is waiting.'s kind of forever dude damn ripping pieces up there with liz not warren yeah or trust don't worry the queen yeah my queen yeah i'm sorry about that yeah so sorry that no worries your loss i wasn't even involved you weren't even involved in her demise? Yeah. I was fucking doing something else. I was somewhere else that day. I was at the grocery store with a baseball cap,

and I didn't look exactly like me, but I looked like somebody you could find on Craigslist that looks really similar. Do you think she died at a grocery store? Come on. No, but he said he had an alibi. I'm saying that I was elsewhere at the time. He was.

I was. The guy. The guy that I hired myself. That would be crazy if we all just kind of assumed she died from natural causes or old age. But then what if they came out with an autopsy tomorrow that was like, she was shot. She was beheaded. She actually failed to put in the one-time delivery code and one of the snackers got her in the airbnb yeah she forgot the secret

word maria oh no turns out diana didn't die she returned with a katana she's back she was training in private yeah she was on a mountain somewhere training. The League of Assassins. Studying the blade. Studying the way of the blade. Are you sure you're ready? Just go stab some old lady. Training for 20 years. She was like, that wasn't hard at all.

I didn't need to train for that. She's so much older now. Yeah, if only you think I'm weaker than I was when I started training that's like 30 years ago i probably should have probably should have called it quits a few decades back queen dandard forever yeah liz on liz anda forever she lives on trust liz on in my heart dude what the fuck is that? What else you guys want to talk about?

I was going to ask you, Danny, what do you do? Yeah, so I'm a software engineer at the Grove. Oh, like the mall?

Like the mall in LA? Yeah, I just work on their software and stuff. Oh, I didn't know they really had software. Automatic doors, I guess? Yeah, they have a computer.

They have a computer. The big one. So I just sort of work on that. That doesn't sound like software. I think most people actually have used a computer. Yeah, that's kind of just like working on a computer. Well, I get it up and running and stuff. He lives in Illinois. Like every day. I get it up and running. You get it up and running. It's a crank start. Yeah, that's kind of just like working on a computer. Well, I get it up and running and stuff. He lives in Illinois.

Like every day. I get it up and running. You get it up and running. It's a crank start. Oh, yeah. So I just sort of work on the computer at the...

At the grove. What did I say? The grove. What did I say? See, because that makes me think you really don't do it. Bad commute, I feel like. I do it.

Yeah, it's fulfilling work and it's man's work and someone's got to do it and it's man's work and someone's got it's work it's gonna do it a man's be edible it's a man's mall someone's gotta crank that computer gotta crank that soldier boy um no but uh i i did i did actually want to ask like so obviously like work there's work um and then i know you're into running you just ran a marathon yeah um congrats on that thank you man um how long did you train for that like i guess an official yeah so we so the our marathon was in october of last year and we uh we the training program for

that was i think like 16 weeks but that was from having run a half marathon already so it's like half marathon to marathon training program and then I think the half marathon one was like 12 weeks or something like that so whatever that adds up to that's like 28 weeks that's like more than half a year

I mean that wasn't like from nothing because we had already run like we could probably run like five miles maybe before we started yeah how long is a full marathon 26.26 yeah that point seems a bit arbitrary huh you the story it's like 41 kilometers oh of course wait but no it's but the distances are it is arbitrary because it's from oh yeah yeah the the marathon is a marathon because in ancient Greece, there was some battle

where there was a Paul Revere type of situation where a guy had to run from one place to a marathon in Greece, and it was 26 miles. And when he got there, he died. It was 26.2. Yeah, the... He just learned this information.

I'm a big guy for trivia. Yeah. I don't know. It just felt like information. I'm a big guy for trivia. Yeah. I don't know. It just felt like you were correcting me. Those.2 must feel weird. It's like, come on. I've done the marathon. Please.

Yeah. My feet hurt so much. No, by then... So they... It was kind of weird. Like, they actually... They had signs for every mile marker. But then I think when you got to like 25 or 26 or whatever,

they stopped showing miles and then they showed how many meters you had to go or something like that and so it's like when i don't even know how many meters are in like whatever so i was like okay this doesn't mean anything to me but i guess i'm far i'm close enough that it's like changed the units of yeah here's how many centimeters until yeah it reach it's like the uh what is it called like the the halting problem where you just like keep having having the distance there's that like oh fuck um it's like if you have a door that's like i don't know at that wall and you say like go half the distance to the door then you And you say, like, go half the distance to the door. And then you'd go halfway. And then you'd say, go half the distance to the door.

Oh, yeah, but you never make it. You will never actually approach the door. But you'll get so close. Yeah, so that's you. It's like it just keeps, the units keep getting smaller and smaller. That's a half marathon. That's why you can never finish a half marathon. That's right.

You keep cutting it in half until eventually. Oh, that's so true. Oh, oops, I did a full marathon by accident. Yeah. Shit. That's fun. Would you do it again? A full marathon?

Yeah. So I did do fun. Would you do it again? A full marathon? Yeah. So I did do another half marathon in May. Yeah. Because we saw you for birthday time. Oh yeah, that was right before. You like left to go do it.

Yeah. Because you were saying you were like partying with us for the weekend and then you were like, man, I shouldn't have gone so hard

on the partying. Yeah. That kind of screwed me over. Dan the animal. But hey, we had a good time. I was going buck wild that weekend. We had a buck time. We told people about the...

You had itchy feet. Yeah, I do. You just kept... Every day I'd see you, you'd come down and go like, feet are itchy. Yeah, the first day we saw you, you were like,

anybody else's feet get itchy here okay so for those for those who weren't there every time you weren't at curtis yeah every time i go to curtis and jenna's house my feet get so itchy i don't know what it is and they use like like uh very neutral uh because i was i thought maybe it was like the sheets or something with the detergent but they use very like neutral detergent and their house

is very clean. It's not like there's like little critters or anything like little bed bugs. Nobody else that stayed there was reported having itchy feet.

No, nobody else has itchy feet. No. Do you ever have itchy feet in other settings? No. It's such an unusual Tell the truth.

Don't lie. Sounds like you better better call dave yeah you might be entitled to compensation i gotta sue them and yeah i'd be curious to know what anybody thinks in the comments but yeah so the whole weekend i was kind of just like medical marvels we like ask them to ask them what's up you do a sleep study and see if you're itching your feet and you sleep yeah that's right yeah no because wait i don't know man um but yeah that uh that went away by the time i ran the half marathon luckily oh cool yeah my feet didn't yeah it's like the second i left their house it was like a curse was lifted and my feet didn't itch anymore and i felt like a sense of peace and calm right it's possible that curtis was tickling your little feet tickling my feet maybe they had

like little feathers at the end of the bed oh just like did you hear giggling i did wake up i did wake up giggling several times but i just attributed that to like a goofy dream that i couldn't remember right i think it might have been the feathers at the end of the bed yeah oh yeah i guess so did you hear scurrying of curtis's little feet as he ran away well the thing about staying with curtis and jenna is there's you kind of always just hear scurrying because i think that they're kind of restless sleepers and so i heard it like above and in the rafters and in the ducks and stuff because i think they just kind of scurry around yeah they're like peter pedigree they could turn into rats and they're not eternal so i'm going into their apartment because it's a perfectly arched shape

at the skirting board of a wall. You try and catch them with a hammer and they're able to run under there really quick. That's like a whole Tom and Jerry situation. It's real Tom. They really Tom'd me. We told people about the limo situation.

That was a good time. That was fun. Here's some nice photos you know what it was kind of like annoying in the moment but yeah it's a good story and i look back on it fondly yeah i think it's it was like the right amount of inconvenience where if like it stretched out for any longer it probably would have been very annoying it was a austin powers impersonated style experience. Right, exactly. Did you tell that on the podcast?

We did, yeah. We even exposed his great joke, dude. Oh, yeah. He stole his bit. You want to sit on my Facebook? You're going to ruin his business now. No one's going to hire him anymore. You're going to ruin a whole generation.

Oh, the question about what do you do, though, was actually, are you getting up to anything like i feel like you probably got so much on your plate right now with the kid coming yeah and and and just working and things like that but is there like how do you like to relax um well other than watching ninja kids okay shit other than watching my favorite youtube channel ninja kids um well uh in terms of tv laura and i watch a lot of survivor oh yeah but we recently ran out of seasons to watch right because we watched um all of them that's crazy yeah that's how that'll happen yeah so we gotta wait for them to make them another one right but wait we just found a show called alone have you

guys ever watched Alone? No. Someone brought this up to me recently, but no. It's crazy. So it's kind of like Survivor,

but if they took all the like fun parts out of it. Oh, no Jeff Probst. No. Yeah, they took all like the actual competitive like game parts out of it. And it's like,

it's actually more like Man vs. Wild, but if it was a game or like a competition. Like not Bear, is that Bear Grylls? Bear Grylls, yeah. Yeah, so instead of like

a professional survivalist, it's just like a bunch of like amateurs? Well, they are all supposedly survival experts, but they are, so they send 10 of them out into the wild,

but not together. They're all in like their own plot of land, like miles away from everyone else. Interesting. Do they come across each other? No. No, they never come across each other. They're far enough apart.

The one we watched, they were in British Columbia, in grizzly bear country. And it just seemed like it was such a vast expanse of land that they could have walked for a day and not seen any of them and they don't know who is still like in so it's whoever's left at the end wins like 500 grand wow but they don't know who is still in they started the season in the fall and by the time it was over it was was in the winter. And I think, I forget how many days they were there, but they said like the most anyone's ever lasted on that show is like 115 days or something like that.

That's so crazy. I'm good. I'm fine. Yeah. I'll do it at home. Isn't that kind of fucked up that it's like Survivor seems a lot easier than that and you win a million dollars if you win Survivor. They're still trying to get a loan off the ground. They're like, we don't have like the whole institution built out. They a loan for a loan hey come on man that's my show it's alone

but it's spelled a space l-o-a-n i take out a loan of one dollar to buy a lottery ticket yeah it's whoever can last the longest uh evading debt collectors you guys watch naked and afraid yeah that was the first thing i thought of when you said Alone. I've watched a bit of that, yeah. I used to be super into Bear Grylls when I was in high school. I used to watch a lot of that show. And I watched a little bit of Naked and Afraid. You've got to watch out here. To get past this crack, we'll have to drink my piss.

Yeah, he was always doing that, man. I'm sleepy and I'm running out of piss. So to make more piss, I'm going to drink my piss. I made a Vine basically with that joke one time where it was like for no reason I'm running out of piss. So to make more piss, I'm going to drink my piss. I made a vine like basically with that joke one time where it was like for no reason he basically

started drinking his piss. And then I got tagged in a bunch of other vines. Like that was like a super common joke on vine I guess.

Like a million other people had already made that joke and I was like, man, that guy really likes to drink piss. He was out of control.

He pretty much imparted his wisdom in one particular way. I would go to say top 10 piss. He's probably had more piss than almost anyone. So is that a real thing? Because I've heard that drinking your piss doesn't really do anything. Or I've heard it dehydrates you.

And I've heard all these other things. But if Bear Grylls is doing it so much. Right. Yeah, maybe he just likes the taste. I don't know. He's kind of just.'m at home you need to get like a gatorade or something like that you're like well i would go home i think if i was like in the desert and i was gonna die i would go home just go home just call an uber or something yeah

we get a bunch of survive we have make a show called call an uber and go home yeah it's like we put a bunch of people in the middle of nowhere and they just gotta call an uber and go home yeah it's like we put a bunch of people in the middle of nowhere and they just gotta call an uber and go home yeah home first dash in the house panicked go over to the tap it's la tap what i see like oh let me just get the filter yeah you wait yeah lips cracked just like oh i'm so thirsty then you like uber eats your dinner i'm so hungry but you're like i need to get some sustenance yeah Just survive at home. Yeah, that's kind of what my life is like. It's just called depressed. Dude, that would actually be

kind of a crazy idea for a show where it's like, it is kind of like outlast the other contestants, but it's just like, it just like kind of follows you for your whole life. So it's just like,

out of these 10 people we pick at random, who actually lives the longest? Linda lived to 110 years old. So the show doesn't come out for like 80 years. Isn't it funny how much variance there is in like the human body and health?

That's hilarious. When like somebody dies, who's like 150 or no, they'll interview somebody. They'll be like, you're the oldest living person. What's your secret? And they're like,

I smoke cigarettes and I drink whiskey. Just drink a lot of Coca-Cola, man. Yeah, literally, it's like they don't do any of the stuff that is supposed to be healthy, but it's like there's so much randomness in. But they also have like carapace. They're built like a locust.

I've lived like this my whole life and I couldn't feel better. I actually haven't moved from this position for like 30 years. Yeah, they're having a good time. Never go to bed angry. That's my other piece of advice. Yeah, Laura had an older relative who only drank Pepsi. And when I say like only drank Pepsi, I mean like no water.

Like she would bring Pepsi to any function and it would always be a can with a straw in it. One can? Well, I think she had more in the car but yeah it's nice warm i i do get it to some degree because uh as a child i had very little supervision and uh i ate like garbage i was like eating junk food fast food like soda like all the time and when i would crave it as an adult or when i crave it as an adult i do not feel bad when i when i have it i feel if anything i feel good because it reminds you of childhood or or like my body's got some my gut like my gut biome is like a fucking nuclear waste

oh i'm used to this shit yeah we know how to process this yeah no know how to process this. No, I was kind of the opposite. My mom was like super health conscious growing up, so we never had like soda in the house. All of our cereal was like flax, buff, wheat cereal. Exactly the same. No soda, no treats, weird cereal. Yeah.

I'll probably be closer to that. Yeah. Like with my kids. Because I think that while it's nice to be nostalgic, it's like I don't love that it feels good to put so much trash into my body. I'm going to give your kids menthol cigarettes. Okay.

Yeah, I think it's definitely important to just like instill like healthy habits. Habits, yeah. Yeah. I don't want to police like what they're eating, but I do think that like understanding the like, like understanding that like everything in moderation and like, yeah, you're, you're few.

It's like food as fuel. Like it's something that I feel like I had to learn so much later in life. It's like, Oh, eating a donut. Isn't really going to do as much for me as like eating. Like, I don't know.

You want a treat to be a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Food, food is fuel, but also sometimes food is treat. Oh, I would say food is often treat.

I've always wanted to learn food is treat. Yeah. It's important to teach a good food is treat. Yeah. Food is fuel, but also sometimes food is treat. Oh, I would say food is often treat. I've always wanted to learn food is treat. It's important to teach a good food is treat. Food is definitely treat and fuel. It's kind of amazing food. Pizza is mood and donut is bae. Bacon is epic. Bacon wins the internet today. Try again next time, everybody else.

Donuts for the win um i keep having questions and then forgetting them what do you guys do for fun oh i've been playing video games recently i've been playing the zelda games um so i just finished ocarina of time or i finished tears of kingdom which was like you know it's a big game right now. Yeah. And then I couldn't get enough. So I went back to Ocarina of Time because that was a game I played a lot as a kid. And then I loved that. And it was great. You took it to play Breath of the Wild again?

Or was it too big a step backwards from? No, I can't play Breath of the Wild again. It's so long. And I wouldn't say it's a step back. But in that engine, I love like what Tears of the Kingdom gives you in terms of expressiveness and how you can solve problems very creatively. So going back to Breath of the Wild feels strangely more linear. It's like taking songs off an album.

It does feel like taking songs off an album. How long does it take to beat Tears of the Kingdom? Do everything that you would want to do? I feel like I've heard that it's like so expansive it's really long i feel like you could easily spend like 150 hours in that game and like get a lot out of it um i think for me i played like my switch says i played for over 100 hours but i don't think i did dang i don't think i did i think i played like 60 70 maybe more but i don't know and then like ocarina of time is like 25 hours to be like and just do everything um and then

like breath of the wild it's like 50 hours people say yeah i don't know but a lot of those games like you're mostly just i think there's like different ways to play like one where you're just explore exploring and another where you're on a mission to really get through stuff. How has your gaming experience been? Because I think it's been interesting to see you streaming games and then playing Minecraft

or playing GTA on stream. You're doing a spectacular job at learning speedrun Minecraft. Yeah, thank you, man. You're kind of like one of the new up-and-coming speedrunners. What's your best, what's your PR right now? What's your time? My PR is I got,

I got to the nether and I got enough ender pearls. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I died. Oh, okay. Do you ever do like save states

or anything like that to like keep the run going? No. I mean, I've tried going in creative mode a few times or doing keep inventory on. You can do a cheat that does that. For sure. To literally just see what it feels like to finish the game. Right, right, right.

Which you have not done. I have done every step individually multiple times, but it's so hard. Oh, for context context Danny has done a few streams and just privately like learning to speedrun Minecraft yeah I was gonna do it for a video and I'm no longer sure if I am because it's been

so hard and I don't want to know if I I don't know if I want to keep dedicating the time to it yeah yeah yeah I'm like really bad at games so I don't know if we've talked about this before but like I like I've always like played them like me and my brother would play a lot growing up and my brother got like so good at video games like like weird levels of good at video games like he could do like he got really into Guitar Hero and can do

through the fire and flames like without looking at the TV yeah and I like I couldn't get past like my medium mode on uh oh yeah guitar hero i we would play halo and i would always do the worst out of all my friends i just like i think i get flustered and uh and i don't know maybe i'm too impulsive or something but i just i'm not good at video games i've never been good at it that's like it feels especially these, there's definitely two types of gaming experiences. And one is games with very clear fail states. Like objective failure. Like you died. Which is so...

Defeating. Or where you lose and it's a reflection of your skill, not just kind of loosely. Losing by luck can be frustrating, but at least it's kind of like a leisurely experience and i think uh a lot of more appealing broad successful games do that whereas in the case of other successful games that are more niche in their experience i think that's the stuff that turns some people off yeah because imagine if you had to put hours of literacy and

learning into watching a movie like learning to sit down yeah learning to see the movie yeah i do i do sympathize with people that like i love games i've always loved games yeah but i have tried getting dozens of people into games and until a couple of releases like spider-man ps4 was really good for introducing i actually did i played that whole game but that's like that's the last game that I played all the way through. And yeah. Yeah, I kind of can't really even get into the story of most games because I just don't feel proficient enough to not focus on trying to not die. Right.

Yeah. You know, it's funny that you mentioned getting flustered because I feel like you, at least from a temperament standpoint, seem like a very unflappable person. You seem very like nothing really phases you. Do people not tell you that? No, I know that. Yeah.

No, I do. I don't know what it is. But I feel like if you watch me play Minecraft, the second I see an enemy, I start screaming. And I'm'm like i don't know if i should fight it or run away and so i kind of try to do both at the same time and i can do neither well so i think i have bad hand-eye coordination too and maybe that's what causes me to be flustered yeah how about outside of games like is there anything that like particularly is frustrating for you um i get frustrated about weird stuff laura says that the the only time she's ever really seen me like angry was the

when we moved into our last house uh we mounted the tv on the wall and then i was trying to run cables through the wall so that our like consoles can be in the tv stand yeah and just trying to run cables through the wall so that our consoles can be in the TV stand. And just trying to, like the kit that we got came with a stick that you try to get to come out the hole on the bottom. I was at it for like two hours. I think it's easier on some walls that don't have insulation, but it was an exterior wall,

so I had to push through the insulation. And I just could not get that fucking stick to come out the hole on the bottom for like an hour. And I was just like, I was irate yeah dude, I mean, that would piss me off what is that about? I agree there's like, DIY especially some more elaborate

setups, is such a complicated thing that it's people's jobs like they spend their whole lives crafting it and yet when I try doing it and I can't, I get angry. Yeah. Like if I just like sat down at a concert piano, I'm like, I don't fucking know how to do this.

It's not fair. Yeah, that's a good point. It's like, yeah, I don't. You should be better. To be so pissed about something I've never tried to do before. I don't have any reason I should be. Going to the slopes for the first time falling off or like falling over while trying to be on skis.

I'm like, what the hell? Why are these Yeah. That's a big thing for me actually. Like growing up, I would like always expect to be really good at everything I tried. And if I wasn't, then it like made me mad. Cause I would get very like self bad, mad. I would, I would get very internally down on myself. And I think that funneled into a lot of my competitiveness as a kid. And it would make me better at things because I really hated being bad at them. Or I would get good at things in private.

Trying to think. Learning the dances to High School Musical. I was doing that for a video that I was going to do in high school musical while i was doing that for a video that i was going to do in high school and we ended up putting like one video out but like i had learned a bunch of choreography to like teach yeah i think i yeah you've mentioned before that you know like the uh we're all in this together dance for sure which i knew at one time too because i think they like they did like a lesson on how to do it during one of the premieres they had a whole

they had a whole special like i have a dvd where it's like the dance along where they teach you to do all the dances okay but um but yeah like that was like oh i i can't be bad at this in in front of someone i have to privately get very good at it and then kind of show up nonchalantly and be like oh it's just like this and then i'm like and then i just know it yeah uh and so i feel like that with like games and stuff that's funny that's the exact opposite of how i always was as a kid it's like i'm not immediately good at it i don't it's bad i have no interest in getting actually no it's objectively bad and if you like it you're stupid do you ever do that introverted introverted thing where you do that but with like social situations where you

like try to plan out what like what's the conversation gonna be about before you get there and like what am I gonna say that like with the dates and stuff when I get really nervous about a date yeah I'm like oh what do I know about this person what if like what if I talk about this topic and then I don't it's like it never actually pans out that way yeah but it's like my anxiety trying to go oh like here's a backup plan or something like that yeah you guys seem very like extrovert or at least more like outgoing than me I think so maybe I think it's a performance I think it's in spite of the way we naturally yeah okay because that's impressive it's enjoyable yeah it's not that I dislike it but but I would say, especially as a kid,

it was very insular. Yeah. I'm not super subscribed to the... I feel like a lot of that stuff is kind of over-medicalized where it's like, yeah, I gain energy or I lose energy. Yeah, no, yeah, no, that's not really what I mean. I'm just kind of like, are you guys shy? I know, I mean, as a kid, I was very much much just like uh I always felt on the back foot a little

bit with a lot of conversations and I agree yeah that's sometimes at least for me it incentivized me to kind of be a little bit of the clown and I in retrospect I don't I didn't like that now I get I feel like I get to be more sincere generally in a little yeah lower tempo but I always admired kids at the time that would just be sociable vulnerable and like personable relaxed cool nice to be around but not trying to hide behind bits all the time

in theory something like that not having to create a production of some sort to monetize their ability to communicate with others that seems super specific you know what's funny is i think of myself as a shy person but i have all these like little tricks oh like like in in events like vidcon and things like where there's kind of a what's the word schema i guess is the psychology word but like there's a recipe for like things you can talk about and things you can do yes i

feel like i can stick to that like very well and then i can be polite and accommodating and and like help people out and i like would i like try to put myself to use to give myself something to do to give myself something to talk to somebody about, you know, cause I, I'm really, really bad with just like a blank slate. Yeah. If I don't.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, I feel like I've gotten a little better at it at stuff like this. Yeah.

Yeah. And then like, um, and that's just her exposure of doing it. I guess so. Yeah. And thinking a lot about it. Like,

uh, next, like after a conversation, I could be like, how could that have gone better? I probably should have asked them more questions about themselves. I it. Like, next, like, after a conversation, I could be like, how could that have gone better? I probably should have asked them more questions about themselves. I probably should have,

you know, I don't know. When I, when I was a kid, I used to like, not speak to adults. Oh, good. Like,

I would, I would talk to my friends and then would be like, I'd be at Russell's house and his parents would ask me a question and I'd go, and then I'd be at Russell's house and his parents would ask me a question and then I'd whisper to Russell something to say. He would say it for me.

Were you too nervous to talk to him? Yeah, I think I'm just too shy for people I'm not comfortable with. Or I'm like, I don't know. Even now, there's a certain part of me like this same friend is one of my childhood friends and his family came to Creator Clash

to support me and stuff and I hung out with them. And there's all these times uh it was like one of my childhood friends and like his family came to creator clash to like support me and stuff and i like hung out with them and there's all these times where like it's so funny how you used to not talk to us like because like they knew it's like you were such a quiet kid and now you have like this career where you're like always like gregarious to talking to people i'm like yeah but it's like an act not like not like i'm being fake but like in i it's how i wish i could be but the but i really had just learned strategies to like get closer to that some goal make it man yeah but but ultimately it's like really draining you mean you can i like studying music theory but i'm not a savant like jacob collier just understood it yeah his brain just was able to get to it.

Plus for work I had to get comfortable with it, I guess, for partnership stuff. Speaking of the video game stuff, my brother is also really musically talented and has perfect pitch and stuff. Do you have anything? Do you have like anything? Do I have anything? Is he older or younger? Gosh, he's two years older than me.

Rough. What's he do? He's a server at a restaurant in Austin. So he's not like a YouTuber? No, yeah, I guess I've got it. Because he'd be better at it. Probably be better at making YouTube videos than him, but only because he's never tried. And I'm really hoping he doesn't.

It seems like he would be better under the same circumstances. Is he your only sibling? No, I have a younger sister too. So you're a family guy? I'm a family man, yeah. Because I have a younger sister too so you're a family guy I'm a family man yeah because I have a brother and a sister you also have like a dog such a stretching

it looked extremely embarrassing remember when you were talking about being natural and getting better at conversations that was weird I thought the chair went farther this way and I was going to put my arm here but I was already sitting on like the edge of it this way so i just went like this yeah but you guys didn't notice nobody did no nobody did i was just thinking like i think the other thing with like my friends parents is like if i'm comfortable with somebody then i'm like

cool talking to them and i can relax around them like you know we're all staying together here and it's so different the vibe like i feel like i can relax around them. We're all staying together here. And it's so different, the vibe. I feel like I can relax around people here. Whereas if I'm at VidCon on the floor, I'm always like, is somebody going to walk up to me? I'm not going to be ready to have a conversation. So many people who I don't remember that remember me or have worked with me. Or even if somebody will say will say oh hey jarvis and then i'll go oh no i don't recognize this face i don't know where i know this person from

i probably look like a deer in headlights and then they'll be like i work on the behind the scenes of this thing we've never met before and i'm like oh yeah okay cool like because they didn't i booked you for the panel but we have never but my brain is going is it from this person is it from this person there's a few people who i've run into who i just cannot for the life of me remember like what i know them from yeah and then sometimes i'll be like do you know who that is and it'll be like not a clue it's like we're all kind of breaking it, basically. I keep doing the thing where like I, there are people like other YouTubers and stuff that I've seen so much on YouTube

and I forget if I've met them in real life. So when I go up to talk to them, I'm like, have we met before? Or do I just, am I just having like a parasocial relationship with you? I am under no circumstances willing to introduce or like meet somebody and be like i don't know you from twitter like oh we're mutuals i would rather die i just can't i met jasmine rice girl in person for the first time yesterday we had a decent conversation i wasn't 100 sure it was her and then went away later she dm just like oh right we have mutuals right

okay then because what is that relationship? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. There is, do you have like a particular insecurity about when social stuff is different? My fear is always that I was annoying. And I think that's because I was an annoying kid.

And I can be an annoying adult if I'm not too conscious of it. But I'm, is there like a thing when you walk away from a conversation that maybe your worry didn't go quite the way you wanted it to um i'm so ugly yeah yeah no i think that generally my thing is just like i think that it was either like underwhelming for them more than just that they were pretending to be nice to me and they actually don't like me yeah yeah i get

that a lot do people ever wonder if any of you guys don't like them? Do you know what I mean? I've gotten that sometimes. I don't know if Jordan likes me. Yeah, no, I do get that a lot because I am very dry a lot. I'm kind of monotone sometimes or just not very expressive with my face sometimes.

So I'll get that people will be like, I never know what you're feeling. And so I can't tell if you're mad at me or if you're just like, yeah. But I'm not going to start pretending to have stuff. I'm just going to keep doing what I do. That's everyone else's problem. I get mad when I do DIY and nothing else.

I love everyone except that. How about you? People think that you don't like them? Oh, about him? No, about you. Is there anything else you don't What about you? People think that you don't like him. Oh, about him? No, but you... Is there anything else you don't like about him? No, no, no. Hey, we like him just fine.

Okay. I mean, yeah. I get... There's so many things I don't like about myself. But I think... Yeah. Roll a scroll. Yeah.

I think the one big insecurity is talking too much like yes like uh definitely comes with adhd where you have like a thought at the tip of your tongue that you want to get it out or else you're going to lose it that's the annoying fear but yeah yeah so there's that that's something and then definitely have the feeling of like meeting people and we go oh they're just pretending to like me do they actually like me are they actually my friend um and i think i'll it'll result in me having interactions where i was like friends all along with somebody but in my head canon they didn't like me and then they like yeah said something nice like hey friend and i was like whoa you're wrong i can't deny that they just acknowledge me as a

friend so that we must be friends that's cool yeah yeah or it's like really nice of them to keep lying and like go see deep into this lie right you say thank you thank you so much for pretending yeah yeah no sometimes it feels like I'm kind of like uh like a make a wish or something and that like everyone is kind of just like yo we should invite we should bring danny and you know he doesn't have much time left before you become dan yeah danny's before he becomes dan yeah there's only so much danny left in this world yeah we have to we're depleting our natural danny resources children would you be willing to raise your child to call you Papa?

That'd be cool. I don't know. Please. I don't know. Come on, please. No, I don't think so. Oh, Papa. I've watched your latest video.

I do think that my dad might have some kind of strange request like that instead of Grandpa. I think he might want to be like Chief or something like that. Big dog. Yeah. Boss. Big dog. John Wick. Something like that dog yeah boss dog john wick something like that yeah yeah call me john i think he did say i don't know i'm not gonna say that it was his address yeah i think he lives that time um okay so i feel like we talked about a little bit of everything yeah in this episode of Sad Boys

I am done we really ran the gambit I'm excited to see what we talk about in the bonus episode in the bonus episode coming to you right after this one on patreon.com slash sadboys is Sad Boys Nights the Patreon exclusive

bonus podcast we lie back in the chair stop man stop doing it no no stop that bonus podcast we lie back in the chair you stop man stop doing it hey hey no no no stop that no

no no it uses views no no no if you start going down somehow yeah I start going down yeah because of

your bad face you do a good joker though that was quite impressive that's he does do good faces

yeah and you'll see more of those on Sad Boys Nights on Patreon. But this is the end of this episode of Sad Boys. Danny, thank you. Bye-bye. Yeah, I guess that's... We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. But real quick, I have to say,

this is the first episode we've done in person ever. But then also we had... The last episode we did was like almost three years ago. Yeah, it was on Twitch, right? It was crazy. We streamed it. Deep COVID. Deep COVID times. Yeah, that was wild.

We just did one with Drew too. We were just like, wow, it was so long ago. It was like we were different people back then. Yeah. He didn't have blonde hair. You had less of a baby. Yeah, I have less of a baby. I still don't have a whole one, but I did have for sure yeah for sure but anyway maybe we'll talk about that

um we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry boom took a bunch of photos of people in the office and then i started fusing their faces together and so i have a photo of us that's really good. That is sort of Jarvis Jordan. That is like both of us together. People would already mix us up, which was kind of crazy. That's fun. That's crazy.

I've never heard of something like that happening where you get mixed up with someone who looks a little similar and makes similar jokes and stuff.