Sad Boyz - Faking A Relationship To Sell A Movie

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. That was kind of quick. Yeah, I'm sleepy, so you see how I was proactive. It sounds like you're compensating for being sleepy. No, you were thinking I crushed it. I feel like... say that, put it in the edit. Put what in the edit? Say that I did a really good job, actually.

Do you want me to say it right now or do you want me to like in post be like, hey, this is Jarvis. Do you think it's a good episode? I'll say it. I'll just record it later. Okay. So you can just like imagine I said it. No, just say it now. My worry is that you won't, I guess that you won't say it later.

It's fine. Okay. No, no, no. So what you want me to say is. I'm doing a good job. I'm like being good at the show okay that's so quiet i just said it really fast yeah it's not so um you're i don't even know what you said that was so long for uh you're no there was no oh thank you okay yeah you got it you got it thank you you too man we're back in black i'd

love to see what the captions make of that by the way have you seen somebody tweeted like somebody tweeted that the patreon captions patreon available full episodes exclusive patreon episodes on patreon.com sad boys all the boys um the the auto-generated captions for like when we would bleep out chad chad's name said like a bleep and then it covered the entire screen what yeah and i didn't know if it was real or not it'd be cool if it said a name adapted i in fact wrote a comment what's going on is this real because i you know you can never tell if people are joking on the internet these days. You never know, man.

We've been out of the Patreon game for, what, 15 years? It feels so long. Yeah. It legitimately feels so goddamn long. It's like a whole past life. Yeah. And I feel like a very different person, as we should. Yeah.

Don't say how long it was ago. I don't want to go through that. A year, let say yeah it's like it's like a college experience you know you start a different person than you end and you grow along the way well it's funny you think that how short college was relative to i mean that feels like a lifetime that was i i that's like uh from the baby being born to waving them off to to live their own life kind of thing right it's like beyond me that it was i spent less time working at patreon well i spent about the same time amount of time as i did at college so i spent the same amount of time at college as i have as i was like a wave for a coven oh yeah like which is a whole other arc of time

like you've had like many different like um anime arcs yeah well yes that was definitely the coming back with a scar over my eye yeah warning about the future do you think that was like a filler arc yeah oh it didn't just like pass the time there's no words in the manga yeah yeah yeah no one would write that in do you ever read a big into a manga uh i've read the dragon ball manga what about an epic never read one piece yeah deep cut for the real ones um that's not all of it but i have read it i did get that i have got that uh dragon ball omnibus oh yeah the word there's that is a word take about the microphone now so you're the authority he gave you a hand signal the microphone is to hear the swish of the thumbs moving um yeah that that's probably the longest manga I've read because in the form of like traditional like manga, like novel type things, I think it's like 43 of them for Dragon Ball.

This guy's educated. Yeah, I know how to read. Do you read books, books? Not anymore. I feel like I don't really read. I think I've finished a single digit number of books, including books I was obliged to read for college. I need to get back into reading. I like to read, but for the longest time,

it was like a challenge to like overcome with my ADHD. And I didn't know why, like as a kid, because I would do all these like you know there was like competitions where you'd like read for a million minutes of reading is that a thing something like that if anybody remembers this was in Florida um is it like a subathon where you're not allowed to go to bed till you finish yeah it was like you I would print out no they would give us these sheets that were like essentially like time cards where you would log how much time you were reading. And then-

At home? At home, yeah. So, you know, you technically could fake it, I guess. But then you would report that back to the school. And then the school would report that to the county or something like that. And there was like a leaderboard of like who was doing the most they'd reach out to bush yeah and then eventually whoever reads the most is the new president yeah they would actually send me an update via newsletter yeah be like chamber of secrets making good progress right i love this

series hope nothing happens yeah i do feel like a lot of the time I spent reading as a child was Harry Potter books. And like Ender's Game, two books where the authors did not turn out so great. Is this got caught alive? I don't know. We'll see by the end of the episode. Maybe I've got a little plan. Hold on.

What is he cooking? Don't let him cook. He's like like i need to excuse myself for the bathroom it should take two weeks he comes back he smells like a bomb i'm bad at googling yeah what's up dude what the hell is dude hell is on um i guess the cat is out of the bag if you're watching this i'm i moved oh yeah that's right yes and then we are currently not there we've now gone away too we're out of town when this comes right our birthday is next week so this episode should be coming out on tuesday um and it is currently friday last episode in this space oh that's wild that's what i'm saying oh though i do think we're going to try to have a similar setup in the new space because all of the furniture will be coming with us so hopefully we can do

a similar vibe we're green screen it oh yeah we should take some photos yeah but like low res heavily heavily compressed off angle it, like very low res. Off angle. It just doesn't, it's a photo of a different place. We're still here. Right. In the green screen, like there's multiple of us. Too big to fit on the couch.

I wonder if there's like enough photos and videos that you could ask AI to make it. Oh, almost definitely, right? Ideally the whole episode. There's gotta be enough like clean plates of us not being in the seat. Yeah. You know that we could probably. It's like prepping a thumbnail except we step out of the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that's, that's happening.

And after this I've got to like record some ads and I've got to, um, we were going gonna record something else and then i need to pack up all my pokemon cards because that's something the movers can't help me with i need to i need to i need to see that through because they're jocks they're jocks do that kind of and they'll be like what do i just squish it with my hands and i go no, no, no, no, that's my Charizard. This tastes like shit. Yeah, no, stop eating it. It's too shiny.

No. I'm just opening it, and it's like a perfect misprint single edition. But it's like a guy. It's like the rarest one's a baseball card. Yo, baseball cards do numbers, by the way. I mean, obviously, baseball cards have been popular for a long time. They're going nuts price-wise. Did you hear about that?

No. This is all the information I've got, so we're going to have to move on. There's so many baseball cards. I mean, I'll tell you what I know about baseball cards. BB is back there with the dogs, so there's a person hanging out with them. What do I know about baseball cards a lot so baseball is a sport oh yeah hell yeah yeah crack of the bat and you can do you can bat the smack of the bat and you can throw but you can pitch four and you can be an umpire which i

don't think is a position on a team. Not at all, I don't think. No, but then I don't know what any of the other people do. I mean, I guess you could be one. You could be an outfielder. That's true. Where you catch the balls that come flying. Yeah, that's true. Well, I mean, you can do that if you're a batter.

You just, you'll lose. Right, but I think that, well, I mean, you could also play all the positions in basketball. Sorry, that would be so funny if someone panics when they get pitched the ball and they just catch it and they run away. And then you're out. It's like an Una reverse. Taking the rules.

It doesn't say any way you can. But, yeah, I don't know specifically what's happening with baseball cards right now, but with sports cards in general, they a lot of like weird things where they have like there's not a game to play like with pokemon or yugioh or something like that so the way they make cards interesting is they will like make different holofoil patterns or like different like it's like the red holo version of this card is like a one of 50 out of this set. And then that's how the cards have these, this like manufactured like rarity. Okay. And people think it's, it's like really just like a way to juice the cash you can get out of it,

which definitely happens in things like Pokemon, but but it there's more of a game and there's more like people have connections to i mean people have connections to players but like the specific red hollow versus like in pokemon you have alternate arts where it's like this beautiful full art like illustration of a car and it's got texture and hollow foil like feels like a premium thing that you're holding you should do the same thing you should have like a player and the alternative is them asleep in their bed or something yeah photo oh yeah like your uh michael jordan card that's like an alt art and it's michael jordan like yeah like tucking his kids in for bed it's him trying it's him in space jam yeah him in space behind the scenes

that would be so sick i would get me and you should be allowed to play something yeah and they should make it into and they should make it into a they should make it into a card game where it's like you've activated my trap card charles barkley allows me to with his gun yeah charles barkley shut up and jam guidance um have you heard about that game the there's a oh he just barkley, it's like a, I think it's a fan game. Charles Barkley shut up in jam guidance. Yeah. Freeware jokingly presented as the official sequel to Barkley shut up and

jam, uh, which was like a game on the Genesis, but, uh, it came out in 2008. Oh my God. It features JRPG style battles and, and dungeons. Wow. That's very small. Barkley.

Shut up and jam guide in chapter one. But the hoops. Um, okay. Yeah. But that's anyway. Yeah. Non-traditional opening of the shows,

you know, with jokes, um, the crack of the bat, I think I mentioned maybe at some point. Yeah. The crack of the shows you know what jocks um the crack of the bat i think i mentioned maybe at some point yeah the crack of that i don't know anything about baseball but i am watching the nba playoffs right now were you at athletics at any point no in the in the old no i played on the street like and not in the streets you know what i mean but i literally played in the street like we put like a basketball hoop in the street and we like played.

With Frolic. Yeah. Or we would go to fields and we'd play like tackle football with no gear. No points. No points. And it was really just fighting. No bowl, come to think of it. Yeah.

It was sort of a fighting ring actually now that you put it like that. Kind of a street rules. We would throw bats. We made chickens fight each other. Yeah. We would race for pinks though. We were 12 and had no driver's license. But speaking of Pokemon cards,

there's drama afoot in the world of Pokemon. I made a gold video about this, but I'm going to tell you about it. And then there's, so I won't spend too much time on it cause there is a video, but there was this huge theft of Pokemon cards. Like millions of dollars in product, like of what the actual like cost to the consumer would be. Team Rocket.

Yeah. We should have known. Yeah. Blast it off again. Yeah. They blasted in again. That's actually how I opened the video. I said Team Rocket's blasting in again. Rocket's popping off again. Yeah, they blasted in again. That's actually how I opened the video. I said Team Rocket's blasting in again.

Rocket's popping off again. They're popping off again. Yeah, so basically there's this factory that the cards are made at. And someone stole cards off the line. But the cards that are the rarest ones where it takes hundreds and hundreds and even thousands of packs to pull. And so imagine a card that takes a thousand packs to pull but then there's like stacks and stacks and stacks of that specific card so these are like these are cards worth like a hundred dollars a piece and then there's just like this table with them all over the table and it's not happening

more yeah well i would believe it doesn't happen more because of like security and surveillance um but i don't know how it happened allegedly there is a video of it this guy rattle pokemon made a video gulp a number you're saying he ate the cards i think he swallowed the card hole i so that would work but the card would not be the same condition as it went into your body due to like the bodily processes. I'm not a computer scientist. Okay. Like I don't have all the, the throat is like, okay, dude. What do you think computer science is?

The stuff. The throat. It's all the science. Okay. Okay. Typing on a computer to check what the biggest number is yeah that is basically what it's becoming with computer science 101 is the biggest number you all have to count to the biggest number um so basically like this guy tried to offload

all these cards they like sold them to some third party who knows and then that third party tried to reach out to card stores to try to sell them and then the card stores were like this is there's no way that an individual has this much product it has to be stolen you gotta find a fence man you gotta launder it yeah you gotta launder you gotta like contact like a hundred different stores split it all up you don't buy all the materials to make meth in the same store. Yeah. What? I'm like having a lot of

concerns with you today. I didn't sleep, man. Okay. I'm losing it. I mean, the thing is that's always the case. I don't always cook meth. Wait, hold on.

Come on, man. So are you implying that you do cook meth? You do swallow the card or whatever. Proceed. All right. It's been a while since we did just a boys episode so maybe i'm just crazy you know it's yeah like i just don't remember who you are i'm just wacky you know uh okay what is he what is he cooking put in that bit where i said you said i was doing a good job

okay yeah just drop like a soundboard just drop it in there you're doing a good job i need that yeah i need the sample to encourage we need a jacob on the soundboard where you can just press it jordan you're doing a good job wow thank you so much i mean oh you could say it um so so the card store they contacted the pokemon company which is uh owned as a joint venture between like nintendo game freak and uh oh there's another company that's name is escaping me it's called like monsters or something like that no what is it creatures it's creatures inc yeah sorry i almost had to look it up it's monsters inc monster no like literally i was about to say monsters and i was like that doesn't work i feel like so yeah mike wazowski owns pokemon it never comes up in the movie it never comes up so then nintendo or the pokemon company they got knocked on basically they got knocked on um by

the stupid local game store that didn't want to get in trouble. Exclusively selling 100-dollar cards one by one. More than anyone's ever seen in real life ever. They contacted private detectives or private investigators or whatever to secure the cards, and they basically re-recovered them and then destroyed them because of the economy of the cards, basically. It's like money. It's like the Fed where they have to control how much money is being entered into the economy.

After the bombs drop, it would be the equivalent of cigarettes. Yeah. Or bottle caps. Or Fallout reference. Oh, a little Fallout reference. I like to have fun. What can I say? Oh, look at this guy.

Gaming out. But I made this video about that and then everybody was well so first of all sometimes i like to talk about things that i'm personally passionate about um and i do love the videos i make about their other various topics weird guys on the internet it's fun for comedy but every now and again i'm like i don't even have any jokes i just think this is interesting so uh it's fun to do that and have people not completely um abandon me for it um because i was talking to curtis about this because he had a similar thing he just put out this video about digimon great video um but it's about this like rare digimon pack that like no one has seen a picture of in 20 years and it's a fascinating story great ending too um but i'll leave that as an exercise

for the viewer so the what when i put that video out everybody was like you should talk about the magic the gathering thing that just happened and funnily enough, very recently, so this Pokemon thing went down end of 2021, beginning of 2022, but it was kept under wraps. Oh, wait. The getting knocked on, stealing cards? Yeah, because while the investigation was happening, they were like keeping it under wraps. That's such a funny idea. Like a Casablanca style old school detective. Yeah.

Dude. And having to take a year to not compromise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't reveal my source. Tell me, where were you when you first saw the Mew V-Max alternate art?

The picture of Michael Jordan sleeping in his bed. Where were you? Smoking a bullet. Where were you when the photo of Charles Barkley at a wedding fighting off a ninja was... Charizard having sex. Hold on. Back up. So strike that from the record.

Why is it worth a hundo? Is it the same card? Which one? The ones that they stole and bought. Oh, it's just because it's, you know, the packs cost $3.50 to buy. And then like the odds that you pull a card are like one in a couple hundred to one in a thousand. But is the card that they were pulling the same card? They stole a bulk of just Jarzab and his dick.

They stole all the rare cards. But various creatures creatures various pocket monsters yes not just like not just one but they stole all high rarity cards basically like they're they're considered like the hits like they're they're the ones that are the the ones that you want to pull the chase cards okay and so they're the they're the ones that like if you open up uh you know 20 packs you'll probably pull one of them but if you want to get a specific one it'll take hundreds usually um because they tend to have they have a lot and then then if you get it graded and it's really good grades it worth a little more for modern

pokemon usually a bit not as much as like the retro stuff, but yes, it is worth more usually. Okay. I guess they can't steal the old ones. Yeah, but there have also been controversies where people have graded stolen cards. Like a card was, like this Charizard card was released early. And no, it wasn't released early. It was stolen from the factory. Normally when things get stolen, they're stolen like one card. Like someone smuggles out one card. is like easier to yeah they yeah kind of

like that literally prove me wrong um stephen growder style change my mind uh that's happily married man stephen growler yeah change my wife um uh the stop my wife from going. Change her mind. My wife hates me. Change her mind. Speaking of a guidance counselor. Yeah. But yeah, one time someone just stole one card. I mean, this type of thing probably happens a lot. Like someone stole the singular Charizard card, probably from the factory, probably somewhere.

And then it somehow made it to a grading company and they graded it as an inadvertent early release instead of like hey we stole this was stolen because sometimes in the distribution pipeline things can get into the wrong hands early this happens with games you know people are leaking tears of the kingdom and stuff like that uh the new zelda game that's coming out like this happens but you don't like to legitimize the theft is a little fucked up um like when yeah they dropped the uh pre-alpha source code of gta6 and then everyone's like this looks like shit yeah that was crazy like looking at uh the storyboards for the next avengers movie and be like what yeah this looks terrible. That happened.

Like a script leaked that one time, right? And then people were like, I'm not really in love with the script. And I'm like, how many movie scripts have you read? Why is it all in the middle? Yeah, I know it's Iron Man. You don't have to write it. You can fit way more words on this page. Is Robert Downey Jr. playing Iron Man?

Doesn't say. Yeah. Same thing happened with the last of us too like i was like it's going to go woke and get broke because they just read the story and a woman was there oh yeah true there's a woman present is that someone being trans in my video game no shot a famously straight series yeah dude i love it when my video games don't have women in them and they're just big bulky men with guns i guess is the only games that are allowed my nice cis straight video game series the last of us that's the one i like right so uh but speaking of detectives um

people were telling me that i should talk about this magic the gathering thing and so for those who don't know magic or magic gathering is a trading card game and it's been around since 1993 um started by richard garfield there's this magic the gathering set that recently came out called march of the Machines and uh by the way Wizards of the Coast is the company that uh manufactures Magic the Gathering makes it they've made it since the beginning uh Wizards of the Coast also made Pokemon in the 90s because they were the they were the biggest like trading card game manufacturer at the time and uh and then Pokemon company took over in 2003 but anyway people they

said they wanted to hear me talk more about magic here it is there's this new um set called march the machines uh there's a lot of youtube channels that were like buying the product opening it up typical stuff that happens on youtube for every everything literally anything and um this guy uh i i want to say it's MTG old school, but I want to double check. Old school MTG. Oh, that's the channel. Yeah.

So this channel, old school MTG, opens up this set called March of the Machine, or is planning to. And the person that he bought from inadvertently sent him a new set that had not come out called March of the Machine colon Aftermath. So this is a legit early leak release. A legit early leak release.

And this type of thing happens. It's not unreasonable that this could happen. Distributors get the product earlier than release date because they need to distribute it. Um, and then there is a line of like, you know, distributors can send it to smaller distributors who then send it to like local game stores and online sellers and stuff like that. And so I know people who like, you know, there's a new, let's say there's a new Yu-Gi-Oh set coming out this week. I know someone who got it last week or two weeks ago because they are now distributing it to their, you know, people, their buyers. I think that the March of the Machines Aftermath comes out May 12th. So it is pretty early.

No, no, no. It's not even that crazy that it's. yeah so this happened this a month right this happened last week yeah so basically it accidentally got leaked a month early this guy made a video about the mistake that happened and you would think that that's just like oh this happens anyway moving on that's not what happened do you know who the Pinkertons are? The Pinkerton agents? Yeah, the law enforcement from the Cowboy Times. Yeah, but they're still around.

Really? Yeah, and they did like- What are they doing? The others aren't. Well, I don't know. Steven Seagal's a sheriff. Yeah, so it's like they do like, in the history of stuff, they've done like union busting and stuff like that.

All bad things, like usually anti-worker stuff, but usually employed by companies to do anti-worker stuff. Manipulating John Marston into hunting down his former gang member to be exiled by a deviant action woman. Yeah, so the reason this is relevant, and it's funny that you say they're the olden times because they are still around. The cops of antiqu antiquity wizards of the coast employed them that's hilarious via email via telegram yeah they employed them and they sent them to this guy's house

and essentially shook him down for the product. They made his wife cry. They like threatened to like report him to like the sheriff. The real police. Yeah, report them to the real police. They made him dance by shooting the six shooter at the ground. Yeah. If he didn't, if he didn't like, like give them the product that he was accidentally released early to then they would ask for a receipt of all of the magic cards that he had in his house to verify that he had not stolen any other product first of all he did not steal the product he bought product from a distributor and they uh sent him the wrong

thing which is the coast are also like famously litigious right especially recently recently they have had nothing but bad PR. Yes, they fucked over D&D homebrew stuff. Yeah, they were bought by Hasbro. And the new CEO, or not the new CEO, but the new corporate overlords, I think want them to make more profit. And so they're doing some crazy anti-consumer stuff.

Like for example, the Magic 30th anniversary was recently, 2023 Magic 30th, Magic from 1993 as I mentioned earlier. like reprints of old nostalgic magic cards that were not even legal for gameplay uh was like a thousand dollars for like these 15 card packs yeah which is in contrast pokemon's 25th anniversary was last year and they released a regular set that had all these reprints of these classic cards and it was a normal the normal price of the product so um so the uh that was such a huge controversy that my friend ruxin34 who does yugioh openings got reached out to by wizards of the coast they said hey let let us send you this new Magic the Gathering product. You can open it on your channel.

And he was like, that type of thing happens in Yu-Gi-Oh all the time. He's like, yeah, let's do it. Opens the product, doesn't realize how much the community has gone anti that product. And he gets canceled essentially over opening these magic packs that wizards sent him and then he had to issue an apology because of all the harassment and shit that he was getting where um just simply for opening these packs then like other magic the gathering influencers had to come out and be like this poor guy like he didn't know he's not even from the magic community and then

everybody kind of like let him off the hook because it's like oh this he's not even from the magic community and then everybody kind of like let him off the hook because it's like oh this guy isn't even from magic he's from yugioh wizards is going to all these other creators i know pokemon content creators who wizards reach out to and said hey open up magic 30 in part maybe because they don't know exactly they were like they won't know and so then we'll get our advertising done elsewhere. If you say a word, the Pinkertons will come around and lasso you. No, yeah. And fucking hog tie you and take you to the local jail.

Yeah. So basically they truly shook him down. And it was a very traumatizing experience. Because the Pinkertons are also known historically for violence and stuff. Yeah. I mean, they were a gang essentially yeah i don't know i i did not know much about the pinkerton how do i can't get over the how do you get in touch with the pinkerton story it's like a corporate it's like it's like

black uh blackstone what's the one that's black rock what's the one that's like a defense contractor uh i don't remember it's like, what's another defense contractor? They have a contact us page on their website. All right. Jacob says. A contact that rules. Yeah. The power of Squarespace.

But yeah, it's like, I feel like it's like if they do government contracting and then private contract. I don't know if they do government contracting actually, but they do private contracting for companies. Like apparently Google hired them to like spy on their employees internally. And like they basically, Amazon hired them to like recently to look at like unions forming in Europe. Yeah.

So, so anyway, it's some sketchy shit. So now wizards is in hot water once again. Hiring bounty hunters. Yeah, because there was a mistake made in their process somewhere, and it's fine. And everything would have been fine if they had done nothing.

Yeah, that's a weird one, right? Like this is kind of a classic tech pr issue as well where because there's no sometimes through a lack of experience and sometimes through a lack of uh wise pr marketing management it's just a team of five people yeah there's some maybe like tasteless or poorly phrased piece of copy or in something in terms of service or just something yikesy done by or a tactless message made by one of the key figures in the company not something criminal but just saying like like like being rude or reacting poorly to criticism or something like that and as opposed to just apologizing if you genuinely sincerely want to

apologize instead they issue some kind of like like a katana parry they want to like teleport behind you snap your neck yeah um actually i think you'll find that you're uninformed to this person with like one and a half followers yeah but as opposed to just you know a real adult that's had a job for more than a year and a half just be like just don't say anything yeah just stop being weird literally just just let him have the pack because it's a month away it's a month away take the free promotion of this pack they they threaten to like make him show receipts for every card that he owns or else they'll have to like go through all of them or something like that which is like every person who owns cards is worst

nightmare because you're gonna like ruin the condition because you don't know what you're doing is it good to hold under receipts for resale purposes in general i don't think so i don't have receipts like if if i if the same thing happened to me and they were like show us receipts for every pokemon product, I can't render a single fucking receipt. I guess maybe in his case, it's especially definitely a business purchase. Yeah, it is definitely a business purchase.

But still, I mean, a lot of my accounting is done based on credit card statements. You know what I mean? I'm not collecting physical receipts anymore. Is that the one that's not out? No, no, no. That would be so sick. If he does then illegally acquire a set. Be like, come at me, Pinkertons.

And he's laid a bunch of traps. Home alone style. I just can't. He has a cute voice too. That makes me sad. He's like a little sweet guy. Yeah, sweet guy. But anyway, yeah.

So that's the magic drama. It's wild. People told me to make a video about it. I don't know if there's more to the story that I could really talk about, Yeah, sweet guy. But anyway, yeah, so that's the magic drama. It's wild. People told me to make a video about it. I don't know if there's more to the story that I could really talk about, but maybe. It just sounds like they're doing the same weird bullshit, right? They're just being weird and litigious and mean.

Yeah, they are. Just with, like, even scarier people for even less. For, like, there was a real theft in the pokemon situation of a massive breach of sort of their entire like factory prop pipeline process and this was like someone made a mistake they did yeah they made a mistake yeah so i wanted to introduce what could potentially be a new segment for the show great because i don't know about you but every single week i see a objectionable podcast clip on social media um and so what if we had a segment called bad podcast of the week where we just look at like the viral podcast clip of that week we try and dig through the 50 000 guy just in a chair with a bad

not another person but looking off center anyway yeah being like hey do you know the feelings in your teeth and making you trans or whatever and then you just feel like oh okay yeah and then we can learn a little bit about how to be more like them no come on man no but like the podcast is bad they go viral though and that's good and we want views scratch are they making dollars maybe okay well in that case you know what exposure dollars um hey what's going on with this so-called vaccine huh oh are you doing it right now yeah should i you could leave and i'll just look off camera nothing and and talk about how like actually we need to return to good old-fashioned conservatives oh true yeah like what are

some of the things that you believe oh man what did that what's good what what makes money i guess if i say it oh yeah just like whatever makes money that's basically how they were great anything at all yeah yeah i have no morals or principles so this one i don't think this one's i don't think i don't i don't know much about this clip i just saw it and then as soon as i saw it it had it had all of the elements of one of these clips to the point where a big plant you know oh yeah there's always you gotta have plant. You got to have your mics affixed. You know, you got to have the mic hovering in front of your face. You can't be holding the mic like us chads. No, you got to look like Leafy.

You got to have it covering your chin and mouth on most shots. Yeah. Especially if it's a celebrity interview. So the entire point of like having a celebrity on that's recognizable is removed. You can just get an impersonator. And then much like nut lady you've got to say something really extreme so this one they all say that every single week yeah this guy says i make my man nut i go to work with no balls or whatever yeah

with balls empty um so this hopefully is not sexual i don't think it will be. It's called napping is stupid. And the captain says naps are for idiots. Oh, wow. All right. Maybe they're right. Anybody who can take a nap is inherently stupid. I think that being able. Oh, wait.

Isn't this the girl from. Isn't this a comedian? Wait, this is a real damn show. Isn't this the woman from the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I please my man in every way. If he's at the. Never mind. This is this is a real damn show isn't this the woman from the yeah yeah i please my man in every way if he's at the den never mind this is this is just bait all right and that's the bad podcast of the week segment did we get paid played not not for too long it took two seconds oh dude that is still bad it's still i mean frankly it's mid i'll say it yeah uh but i do like the idea of

the segment i don't think there's any shortage of fodder if you yourself audience member happen to come across a particularly cringe or bad podcast clip on shorts or your platform of choice whichever platform with a bad tos you'd like to send us clip from but this does kind of speak to something which is like barstool posts a lot of these and it does make sense that barstool is just posting bait shit podcasts like joke podcast well we're probably drifting into like the triple meta now right yeah it's gonna be hey it's a joke but this is actually a joke about a joke right this time though it's actually super ironic triple joke shrek right and then it's just like the ironic irony is or no ironic irony ironic misogyny is still you know misogyny it's still

being expressed and taken sincerely by incels twitter constantly evolving platform that only gets better presumably i'm waking up for a yeah I'm so confused. You just launched into like a tirade. It's on the mind in part because I don't understand what Blue Sky is. Oh. Oh. So it's website. Yes, no, maybe. Yeah.

Well, yes. And it's an app, but there is a website. Okay. But yeah, it's a social media. It's Jack Dorsey's website? It's Jack Dorsey funded it. It's actually run by this woman named Joy. I don't know her last name.

It's all covered. So as people may know, Twitter has been somehow upping the ante every single time they want to do something stupid. And they've reverse engineered the whole point of having an account verified j grabber sorry j grabber um so yeah blue sky it's just like it's an app um it is recently in the news because they have like gone into beta and have started inviting people.

So then I got invited by a friend of the show, Erica Baker. And this platform, it's the Twitter competitor that's intended to what meant be the functional version? Yeah, so its mission is they made this – the idea is to divest like creators online from platforms and then like make an open protocol or whatever that is – you can like take anywhere basically. I don't fully know like the – I haven't read the like white paper on like its whole thing. But they like made this like at protocol it's a very techie thing that from a consumer standpoint it's just a twitter it's just a twitter clone well i mean but from a tech nerdy style it's like um social networking technology created by blue sky at protocol is networking technology to power the next generation of social applications

is there a consensus on whether it's a realistic goal to port enough people for the platform to be viable as a competitor i think that that's always a good question um the i think that for marketing stamp so i don't know i think that any social media thing in 2023 is fighting an uphill battle. Like we all, we've kind of saturated on like social networks. And so it's like, we've seen a million different Twitter clones pop up in the post Elon Twitter era. The friction of even being willing to download an application and find a place on the home stream and the fact that your friends aren't there when you create your account like that that's a thing so what's interesting about blue sky what surprised me is that by virtue of it

being like quote-unquote like co-signed by the original twitter, there have been a surprising number of people jumping in to it. Like, like, uh, I got on it yesterday or two days ago and like, uh, Chrissy Teigen's on there now. You guys should OG Twitter user drill is on there. Oh yeah. Um, uh, AOC is on there. The Holy Trinity.

Yeah. Yeah. Like Chrissy Teigen was like was like old old school twitter you know what i mean we're like back in the day like when when ashton kutcher was like the most followed person on twitter and was like this is like this is we're talking 2006 we're talking like way back with like 400,000 followers yeah 400,000 followers he was like the most and it was like I don't know Fred he was like the only celebrity on Twitter like he was like the first celebrity so everybody just like followed him and so uh it's it's an interesting thing like all of the like like uh like I was like Juniper lol over overruled, like Taylor Lorenz. There's like a lot of journalists because all the journalist circles are getting on there. And then now like weird shit posters are getting on there.

So it's interesting. I actually think that. Everyone is too broke to get Twitter blue. It's yeah. It's fun. I do not believe that it will succeed because that's how startups work. You know, it's a moonshot and a bunch of money from people who could afford to lose it.

And then they want to win a hundred extra investment. Probably the most ambitious attempt at competing with a monolith platform ever. Yeah. But I mean, like, I think like if Vimeo came out today and they were just like, we're the it. This is where videos go. yeah but i mean like i think like if vimeo came out today yeah and they were just like with it yeah this is where videos go what makes the twitter goal seem attainable is how bad elon

musk is fumbling twitter so that's what yeah it'd be like if youtube was upside down i've been even yeah what's surprising about it is that um you didn't see this happen with Hive or Mastodon or any of those other Twitter clones where a lot of people are like, get me off of this website, get me off of Twitter. You know what I mean? And they're like going over to it.

And there's just like not been enthusiasm for those other competitors. And so I don't know what makes this one other than the network effects what makes this one like more successful at creating that interest because i'm seeing everybody on my twitter feed is talking about wanting to get on it i mean i think for power users which are the people that really want to go there uh the the association with the original twitter is yeah probably a big contributor. And you need the power users to generate content.

So it's interesting. It's fun. But it's also like a little bit reminds me of when Google Plus came out. And everybody was like, Facebook is so over. Like this Google Plus thing is going to kill Facebook facebook and then i think i got on there with like a bunch of my friends and then it like felt like a thing for like a second and then like it was like okay google plus is dead i honestly feel like i spent more time getting emails about google plus going out going out of function soon yeah the only time i ever spent there was like i just

changed something about my google i to change something about my Google. I need to change something about my YouTube account. I have to do it through this puzzle. They really tried to, they made it so that you needed a Google Plus account to like comment on YouTube and stuff. It was crazy. Yeah, you have to basically just answer a bunch of riddles

before you're allowed to like age verify yourself. Yeah, so Blue Sky, it's solved the first problem problem which is like getting a viral bump and so we'll see where it goes from there because i don't think i i honestly don't think the other apps have even done that um i think mastodon is too confusing to use for the average consumer because they don't understand the concept of like servers like different servers and a very as simple as it is just an awful name bad name it's just very very unappealing i don't think blue sky is a great name but uh especially concerning twitter blue and and the other thing about blue sky is that

the nature of the protocol it's like domain. So you can have your own custom domains on there. Uh, but then there's like a default one, which is like BSKY.social. So all the ads look terrible if you care about the aesthetics and if you like, and if you don't under like, like, I think they look weird for the average. You won't know why they look weird. You know what I mean? Like, this person.biscuit. Like, that's what the full at is. But then you can also have your own handle.

I don't know if I'll see anybody with their own handle. But if, oh, yeah, like, at, you see what uci i mean like as if you own that domain and you can like register it now this is it's just hard to pass yeah it's like the dude from sign in happiness or whatever oh just put his own website on there and it's like it it from a protocol standpoint and from a technical standpoint all of its sound from a product standpoint and from a technical standpoint, all of it's sound from a product standpoint, it a little bit feels like it's asking a lot of people to the average consumer to understand. I think like I talked to,

I don't want to out them for this, but I was talking to one of my friends about it and they're like, why are the apps like that? They look so ugly. Yeah. And like, that's going to be the question that I think a lot of people are asking. I think there's a lot of pride associated with stuff like that.

Even for consumer only non-tweeters, maybe the occasional chirper or reply guy. I do think there's a lot of pride with like how accurate your app is, how closely you feel like your twitter and tweet history represents you and your brand yeah regardless of size literally a a two follower setup people do care about their presentation online yeah really that's also one of the only ways of expressing yourself to strangers yeah like seeing your at is it's like an avatar in it mmo yeah i just don't want to i feel like i don't want url yeah the moment i see url format i just think oh it's a scam i don't want to click that look that's the that's a normal thing to think like for me i'm of two minds obviously because i like can get like what they're going for but at the same time my uh my product brain is like, I don't know. I mean, maybe it is, maybe they know the only solution is to be a little more boutique

and maybe the goal is not to transfer even anything close to the user base size. I don't think that, yeah, you're right. That isn't the goal to like have a big user base because the whole idea is that there are actually multiple, like Jack dorsey actually invested in multiple twitter clone competitors and also whole point of this this is to be distributed and and have like um like decoupling the actual like content from the

platform so that url is like you own that not you own but like that stuff is associated with with your you rather than being associated with the platform um which i think might not have been taken into account by say aoc is maybe i see a lot of people referring to it as transferring i'm moving to blue sky. This is now where my tweets are going to be. Oh, she didn't say that. Oh, no, no. I don't think they're saying it out loud.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the sentiment is... Oh. There's a lot of people saying... Well, I mean, I have seen people saying, look, Twitter's a fucking mess. I'm going to blue sky. Yeah, that's silly.

It's kind of like saying, like, well, my apartment is so gross right now, I'm going to the woods. It's, it's... I'm going on going on vacation forever yeah it's also in beta like it it's like you would never like i did have somebody reply going are you gonna stop tweeting and i'm like that's a silly question to ask because obviously i'm going to do what's right for like my brand and my business and stuff and uh the it would be foolish to throw away something for an unproven in beta app you know what i mean also i mean practically speaking twitter's just cringe right now yeah that's i am i am my quality

of life is not dropped because of the changes made to twitter it's just annoying yeah elon did the thing with um verification it happened that ruled that's one of the funny it's so weird seeing somebody it's like he's gone to hieroglyphics and then realized what letters are for yeah like just gone back and gone oh wait so so i can verify stuff yeah but just don't lie you're not allowed to lie yeah don't change your name you don't what are you doing if only there was a solution for i don't know so i'm gonna visual signifier that still fucks me up as well when i see a awful ridiculous take and then i notice that it's what's with the verified check hold on is this a shit post or is this somebody's being strange yeah yeah oh no it's just somebody with no like financial awareness yeah or it's a guy who's like starting his own app but is by getting like a wix

account it's like step one oh yeah they're like oh i needed this i needed the squarespace i'm making a proactive disruptive service i don't yet know what it does at the moment it's just a blog about like the silicon valley bank but it will disrupt i think it's just a blog about the Silicon Valley bank. But it will disrupt. I think it's going to, honestly, at this point, disrupt something, and then it's a podcast of him facing off camera into a mirror. I think the worst thing he's done is prioritize blue check marks in the replies. That wouldn't have been a good thing, even if it was for the old verification system. At any point, yeah.

Yeah, because now all the replies are like, you know in SpongeBob where there's those fish that all like say the same thing? Yeah. Like that's kind of what it feels like when Elon tweets, everyone's like, meep, meep, meep, meep. Like that's all the responses are like,

yes, LOL, crying, laughing emoji. Like that's like all it is. And so the value of the replies and the whole point of the, like, likes as upvote system where you see the most engaged stuff towards the top is completely destroyed. And so it's just a non-functional website. And the vast majority of people with the, I mean, even calling it a verified check is funny in a way.

The vast majority of people paying a Netflix subscription for a service that doesn't benefit them at all are uninteresting and unfunny yeah so you get all of the least interesting replies and if it's like on a shit post it's people being like um this i so you chose violence today you know just like the least funny or like a shrek meme yeah how fucking hell you dude i think what i i tweeted about this um it wasn't on macedon the stuff that yeah the stuff that i posted the screenshots that i took were so infuriating wait let me see uh so elon's post verified accounts are not prioritized and then look at me we are the celebrities now what's going on how about a verified account allows you to like use not less compressed memes it always it literally every single meme one of anybody with a blue check when they post a meme, looks like it's like in motion.

It just can't be above 360. Also, Captain Phillips is what, like 10 years old at this point? Charitably. And it's not, what do you mean? We are the celebrity? What do you mean? No, you're not. For the audio listeners,

it's the Captain Phillips meme from 150 years ago that says look at me i'm the captain now would be the meme but we are the celebrities now captain phillips came out in 2013 jesus christ 10 years old and that meme is from the when the movie came out like literally it was in the trailer it's yeah it's just a it's just a phrase yeah like outside of being in the trailer it's just saying a thing changed yeah it's not like a ref really even a reference and then it was like uh me with a blue checkmark logging into twitter every morning and it's the meme of the guy walking in doing like the sea walk oh dude let that sink in right yeah exactly oh and then it's from a do you want to read out what their handle is for the audio listeners?

Heads up that it is very cool. Who is that thug? Who are we working with? A poet, perhaps. A man from antiquity, an oil painting with a MAGA hat on. The name is, followed by a blue checkmark, of course. Of course, followed by a blue checkmark. I am the American flag.

I meme, therefore I am. Oh, mate, wait. It makes me think I should kill everyone in the world and then myself. Wait, what did Descartes look like? We had the hat. Oh, yeah. Because I was like, was it Descartes? Descartes with a MAGA cap is wild.

I think that's where Trump got the idea. This is my favorite. My favorite post. Okay, this one, I guess they blocked the username. Oh, I blocked the username. Oh, okay. I missed the name. I hope I... It ends with GS.

Oh, wait, you don't have to say it. I just want you to read the... Maybe. I tried to block it out, but I couldn't make it bigger without the... It's probably a Greek statue or a photo of Socrates or something. No, you're supposed to just read the text. And then the name is like the sarcastic intellectual or something. And they laughed at us for paying for Twitter blue.

Those haters didn't realize that there was more to it than just the blue checkmark. Go ahead. So many more features and now prioritized. Thank you at Elon Musk Simp for changing Twitter for the better, love heart. Love heart, you fucking weirdo. It is wild. Why do they always write like an email? Thank you, sire, for giving me the kindest extra scoop of slop

oh for allowing a mere serf like myself to have prioritized reply a photo saying my name jeff but it says like my name is prioritized yeah my name my name up blue oh yeah it's like my wife, but like heavily compressed. It's just my account, my features. You see the Sydney Sweeney stuff. I, the extent of my knowledge is gossip.

And the gossip is, did you hear about this Sydney Sweeney stuff? That, okay. So that's almost as much information as I have. Okay. But what I know is that Sydney Sweeney of, you know, everything, she's in everything,

but I guess Euphoria was maybe the thing people know her from the most. Is that the drama? That she's from Euphoria? Yeah, that she was in it. No, actually. She's actually in two seasons. Oh, not the third? No.

Maybe she was in House house the dragon or something so and then glenn powell who i know from talk on maverick he's having his moment oh but he was in the dark knight rises as a guest role as well his breakthrough performance in the comedy horror series scream queens but i just know him from oh it's that guy from uh the sydney swingy thing oh yeah you got it i do recognize him he kind of has like okay i'm not gonna use in top ground maverick yeah he was a big role got it man he's the ai turn left so so um they are filming a rom-com and i think the rom-com is called anyone but you i think it doesn't matter man it doesn't matter yeah jesus man relax the uh uh it's a rated r rom-com so spicy capital off and then in all of the like

public appearances people are like shipping them because of their body language and how they talk to each other which is like a little bit you know i've had that happen before and it's not fun right to have to be on screen with like a woman for me to be on screen with like a woman that people be like you should date like I see us I see these two people they should be in love I'm writing something already and um and however the there's a lot of drama because like it appears that they're flirting because they were in this like romantic movie together and then here this is all the information i know it's like you're hearing it like telephone like secondhand from twitter uh and then glenn powell's girlfriend unfollowed

sydney sweeney on social media and then then the next couple days passed, and then it was announced that they broke up. Oof. And now people are being like, did he cheat? Blah, blah, blah. But then most people are like, this is the best PR for a movie you could possibly have. Genius. This is like end of act one. Some people are like, this is all planned.

This is a part of the PR push, which I think is insane. Because this, Glenn Powell's ex-girlfriend did not want anything to do with any of this. Also, don't go insane. 10,000 people would care. Yeah.

It is not. Most people never engage with any press of any kind most people that go to movies most people that go to a movie is like oh the euphoria yeah go from euphoria yeah exactly i will pay for this okay so let's watch this first clip the whole experience was absolutely incredible we got to literally take over australia it's like this movie is the are they huge or is the microphone for Australia. That is insane. We could do anything.

It was so much fun. There was one day where we literally took over the Sydney Opera House, and that was... Yeah. I didn't mention this. Sydney Sweeney and Glenn Powell are both 90 feet tall. Dude. She's holding it like a wand. She's holding it like a... I don't even know what she's holding it like.

She's holding it like a i don't even know what she's holding it like she'll be like a candle like a delicate candle like a flower yeah did she's trying not to kill like a delicate little flower little daffodil that was pretty epic and barack obama watched this film scene yes he did it was pretty memorable and glenn landed a helicopter and jumped out of it it's really cool there we go yeah i mean okay i this is but people like there's not much to go on here but people were just taking this and running with it which is what people on social media this is a good green line opportunity yeah truly he has a hard face for one hard face uh his pussy's facing the world a perfect date would be i don't know i don't know. I don't know. Somewhere outside.

That would be the... Oh, man. What would make for the perfect date? What was really interesting is watching Sydney visit the rugby locker room in Australia. That's not a perfect date. Yes. No, a perfect date, I think, would be some good food, some good laughter, and just a quiet, peaceful place. Not just laughter.

Good laughter. It's going to be really good. Have you ever had bad laughter? Not angry. Like, when you're like, ha ha ha ha ha, make it stop. Ha ha ha ha ha. Tee hee hee. Damn, that's some good love

You know there's not one spot You just stumble into all these date spots Right on the beach We were right living on Bondi Shooting on the cliffs It was amazing It sounds like they didn't go Do you know what I mean?

There's too many specifics Went to the Sydney Opera House That's like saying I went to the Empire State Building in New York In Baraga Babos there And Einstein stood up to the Sydney Opera House. That's like saying I went to the Empire State Building in New York. And Barack Obama was there. And Einstein stood up, if you can believe it. Yeah, I met a crocodile

to Australian Road. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, this is the Daily Mail. So hold on, hold on, hold on. Because it's bad. Prestige journalism. So three days ago, Sydney Sweeney still engaged. Didn't know she was engaged. Okay.

So, okay, wait. So both of these people were taken. And then everyone on the internet was like, you will date. You are dating. Look at the way they're stood. Yeah. Look at how she looks at him. She makes eye contact.

Women don't do that to me. Also, you can have some fucking like weird sexual dynamic with someone that's bad like you shouldn't if you're engaged but it doesn't mean you're not going to did i see glenn powell hold on hold on glenn he was powell top gun who was his character can i guess wait can i guess his name oh bird i've met glenn powell what on a strip yeah twitter in the pre-elon era had a screening of top gun maverick uh i went to it and beforehand i believe it was before the movie gl Glenn Powell was there with another one of the actors, and he talked to us and stuff. How was his body language?

A little suspicious. He kept talking about euphoria. A little suspicious. Have you guys seen the euphoria girl? So Sidney Sweeney's still in, so she was engaged. He had a thing. But then euphoria bombshell Sidney Sweeney scene without I'm going to

become the Joker. Please allow that to not say. What a British way of saying that. I do, please. Oh, sir. Sidney Sweeney has been pictured without her engagement ring from fiance Jonathan DeVino as speculation around her relationship with co-star Glenn Powell continues. Quick shout out to the Daily mail website by the way the moment we allowed ads it became this looks like the factory

where they make viruses there's so many ads on screen right now um but this is the daily mail so it's like the one of the worst thing oh it's the worst people this is like this is i don't i don't support paparazzi and shit but here i am reading into this bullshit whatever one thing i will uh give a little bit of credence i will give to old blighty to the to the motherland is that uh they have in england they rightly know that journalism is a shameful career there is like there's this reverence here where it's like- Is this journalism though? Well, I mean, yeah, technically, but that's why it's shameful.

It's the, it's a, this is most journalism. Okay. In both countries. Okay. That's most of what publishing is in all media, all purposes. It's just eye grabbing bullshit. It's paragraphs with clickbait names okay details etc but here there is a little press logo in the fedora aesthetic

protagonist energy to journalism like i'm the journalism is spotlight it's we we stopped we we stopped the biggest crime so that's not so that my source okay interesting i would be curious to hear people's opinions on that because that wasn't my understanding but because i don't think that like the people who do like the paparazzi like for you know it's one thing if you're like a public servant you know and and you you like work in congress or something and then like you may not be entitled to like you know the same privacy and stuff because of your uh because of your job but if you're just like an actor or something i don't think that like it's journalism to like follow you around

and like take pictures of you everywhere and like use it to speculate on your relationship. I think colloquially we just use the term journalist as the higher tier, whereas these are public journals being, I mean, what would you call, outside of paparazzi, because paparazzi is taking photos for me. I think if you are writing for the Daily Mail. I think these are like gossip rags, right? So like, would you call the people

who make those journalists? I, I don't know. I mean, yeah, the, the Guardian and the BBC have some trash in them, but they're published on the same pages as I guess what you could classify as real, quote, real journalism. But that's how, yeah, that's how, that's how I guess bubble speaking to an extent. More people read these. That's true, but that doesn't mean much that's like more

people watch mr beast you know than watch movies so he isn't a youtuber no but if he if he called himself a filmmaker then like you could i don't think there's a right answer to it um it's just interesting to me i don't know all right so uh i have to run so uh to a meeting, unfortunately. But before we go, we will be doing a full, and I mean full, Patreon-exclusive episode of the podcast on patreon.com slash sadboys. So you should definitely check that out. Jordan, have you seen the Kai Sinat and Aisha Speed music video? Oh, it's their song? They made a song.

No, I haven't. Really? Yeah song no i really yeah no i have not would you would you be at all interested in watching that with me on sad boys nights the bonus episode for five dollars five dollars most patient yeah just five dollars uh among other topics we'll talk about uh like the andrew tate stuff did you see the picture? But we end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. And we're sorry. Boom. This shit is trash.

The chorus is really good though. The chorus is who left the dogs out by the Baja men. They didn't do anything to the chorus. Featuring speed. Yeah, he does do the barks. Arf!